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No good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to Health and Wellness
with Wayne Elliott. This is ourthird program in the series, and I
am most pleased today to be withour next guest. This gentleman is one
of the most educated, studied individualsI have ever met. He's a PhD.

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Nutritionist, has more letters and creditsthan Carter's got Little liver pills.
He's fifteen years the host of thenationally syndicated Let's Talk Nutrition radio program from
Tampa, Florida, and just awealth of knowledge, my friend, doctor
Michael Garkle. Welcome to the show, Doctor Garkle. Wayne, thank you

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for inviting me. It's always apleasure to be with you and your audience,
always looking to try and well,you know, there's always room for
improvement, and I'm first in thatline, so maybe today we can all
improve a little bit. Well,you always did a great job. This

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is a bit of a switch.I was on your show more than fifty
times as a guest, and thatwas always my pleasure. And you had
an audience that loved you, andyou were so informative always and so well
studied that it was very successful showfor over fifteen years there. So one
of the things I always liked,doctor Garko, that you would say during

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shows that I was on with you, is that you you often provided the
excuse me, the clinical evidence tothe the herbs, and in addition to
the the anecdotal evidence that I wouldprovide with stories and comments, and you

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you always had the clinical evidence,the historical use and proof of some of
these herbs and botanicals. Yeah,you know, look health, wellness and
well being. There's the science andthere's the art of it all. And
long before we had what we knowas modern science, people had to rely

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upon word of mouth and ecdotal evidenceand so on. And just because now
that we have science doesn't mean wedismiss all that. And so that's what
we did do, you and Itogether for a long time. I don't
dismiss the personal experiences of people.Yes, clinical trials are important to help

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confirm or disconfirm a theory or whatever, but nevertheless, like for example,
with you, your own personal experienceand using the heart drops, the Strouss
heart drops, you didn't need astudy to know that it was helping you,
right, So that's for sure,Doc, that's for sure. I
always say to people, you won'tneed you won't need numbers or tests to

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know how you feel. And Ialways found it was ironic that that criteria
was basically eliminated. To my knowledge, I've read a lot of clinical studies
on pharmaceuticals, and it seems thatnever is how the study candidate feels,
never seems to be part of thecriteria. And it's it's pretty important doc

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how we feel. You know,you can be told, hey, everything's
fine, but if you don't feelwell, it's not much consolation, isn't.
No, it's not. And soI'm reminded there was a first century
Roman poet of all people and things. His name was Marcus Beryllius Marcialis,

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and he said, quote, lifeis not but living in health closed quote
to your point, living in healthmeans to feel better, and living in
health way, as you know,is not automatically guaranteed. This is something

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most people really do understand in principle, even though they may not engage in
the day to day practice of maintainingtheir health and preventing the disease and slowing
down the aging process. We allknow this, that life is not living
but living in health, and itseems to me that the contribution of Strauss

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and their botanical products has helped peoplein a large way and in large measure
to live in better health, andyou're a testament to that. So I
guess we'll talk about that today.And it seems also to me that as
we age, one of the mostimportant things that we could try we have

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to try to maintain is our cardiovascularsystem. All the systems are important.
However, if your cells, tissues, and organs are not being oxygenated properly,
nourished properly, because your vascular systemhas become disease, you're going to

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be in a lot of trouble.And so I guess maybe we can put
some focus today in spotlight on coronaryheart disease and how the Strouss heart drops
and other products that they make,beautiful botanical products can help make for a
better cardiovascular system. Absolutely, Doc, While you've heard my story a number

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of times, for sure, theI suffered after an attack in my front
yard playing at a young son's birthdayparty. There there I didn't have pain,
but very soon thereafter I had allthe angina symptoms and was really lucky

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really doing nothing about it. Forsix or seven years, I developed irregular
heartbeat as well. Arrhythmia super ventriculartachy cardia was what they said I had,
and I did. I didn't takeany medicine. I didn't do anything.
I made plans to maybe be theyoungest in my family to check out

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is what I did. And boy, when you know when I took the
heart drops, which just worked likea miracle for me, and then the
cardio support formula for my irregular heartbeat, I'd just been so grateful to suffer
neither one of those now for overtwenty five years, and they've never come

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back. As you know, Itook the kidney support as well for high
blood pressure and blood pressure still onetwenty over seventy despite all the things I
do wrong like not sleep enough andwork too much and so forth. So
yeah, I I you know,I can't say enough good about them,
as you know, and uh itis you know, it is so important.

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I think blood flow is the mostimportant body function er. We wouldn't
have all these fifty thousand kilometers ofvessels and veins and arteries inside us.
You know, one thing, Doc, We know that most of us know
that these refined sugars are are verybad for us, and they come in
many forms, including breads and allthe lovely baked goods, and of course

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all the forms of sugar. Andin these so called low fat condiments and
foods. You know, I discoveredthey take out fats that we can deal
with, our bodies can deal with, and add refined carbs, refined sugars.
Uh, why don't you explain abit for us just how these refined
carbs harm us and how it isthey're not at all good for us.

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Well, so what you're getting athere is the notion of risk. If
we're talking about heart disease, forexample, put the focus there for a
second. There are modifiable risk factorsand non modifiable risk factors. And one

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of the modifiable risk factors is ourdiet. And if you're eating a highly
processed diet with lots of sugar,lots of unhealthy fat and so on,
you're going to tend to gain weight, You're going to tend to raise your
blood glucose levels, insulin levels,then start to become pre diabetic, then

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into full type two diabetes, forexample, And now you're starting to do
damage when you get into that realm, you start to do damage to the
vascular system, particularly your arteries,and the arteries start the plaque. And
we'll talk about that today, thedifference between arterior sclerosis and athlosclerosis. What

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does that mean? But these refinedprocess carbohydrates, foods and high fat foods,
unhealthy fat foods, contribute to thatover time. It doesn't happen overnight.
So if you think about this fora second way, I mean,
you know more about the mechanics ofmachinery and all of that, but the

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heart is only bigger than a fist. That's it. Each day, on
average, it expands and contracts aboutone hundred thousand times, and it pumps
about two thousand gallons of blood throughthis vast circulatory system that you alluded to
a moment ago. So if thatnetwork of blood vessels of the circulatory system

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were laid out and end, itwould extend for a distance approximately sixty thousand
miles, which you alluded to also, or more than twice around the earth.
Now, trying to maintain just theplumbing in your house is hard enough.
Try to maintain right, and tryNow, if you think about this
system, this is so vast,and if anything can go wrong, it

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will and your diet and your lifestylewill ultimately become manifested, either in a
good way or a bad way withinthis vascular system. So you hit upon
some very good points, and dietis critical to all of this. But
again I separate Some people put dietunder lifestyle. I like to separate them.

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So, you know, we'll getinto this a little bit today,
these modifiable non modifiable risk factors forcornary heart disease. But you know,
you know, darn well, you'veseen when you're taking hips apart, how
rust takes its toll, right,you're bad. Well, yeah, yeah,
same thing happens to us in asense, we sort of rust on

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the inside with all this oxidation whichhappens with ships with the metal, while
the same thing happens with tissues andour coronary arteries and whatnot. So they
some use the metaphor it's like oxidativerusty, But it's just a metaphor to

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help understand that we can damage thissystem to the extent where the blood flow
is diminished and then you start toget into a lot of trouble. Not
enough oxygen and nutrients to the brainand to other cells and tissues in the
body and then you find yourself eitherhaving a heart attack of stroke and you
know, leaving this good earth.Yeah. So the the you know,

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the the sugars again, all thevarious refined sugars duck um. You know
do they do? They sort ofwork hand in hand with cholesterol to form
that plaque. Is that the youknow, the stickiness of sugars that when
I say work hand in hand,work hand in hand against us to restrict

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our blood flow and sometimes completely blockour blood flow to certain parts of our
body, including the heart and thebrain. Okay, so you always get
me to the places where I wantto go. Somehow you were able to
read my mind. All right,let me back that up a little bit.

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So you have this thing called arteriorsclerosis. Now that's a general term
to mean hardening or stiffening, stiffeningof the arteries, or the loss of
elasticity. Then there's athlosclerosis, andpeople get confused. Afflosclerosis is a type
of arterior sclerosis, and aflosclerosis isthis lipid rich plaquing of the larger and

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the medium sized arteries. So ethlosclerosisis a specific term to signify the formation
of these lipid rich or. Icall them lipid laden plaques, these fatty
lesions in the large and medium arteries. So athloscurosis signifies a condition where the
arteries hardened and are obstructed because ofthe plaque that's building up in the arterial

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walls. So you have arterior sclerosisis the general term. Athlos Grosses get
to the point where you are makingof these lipid laden plaques in the arteries,
and that happens because the arteries getdamaged and the body's trying to repair

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that damage to the endothelium lining eitherbecause of chemicals. Either it could be
from alcohol, toxins from the environment, unhealthy food. I mean, there's
so many things that can image thatendothelium, and so the body's trying to
repair it. These plaques are theyhave lipids, elastic fibers, muco polysaccharize,

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and calcium deposits in them. It'snot just fat. So it's a
it's a it's a it's a witch'sbrew of a terrible combination of compounds put
together that eventually, as these plauthe platelets go by, these plaques,
they rupture and initiate a clotting process. And this occludes the artery and then

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that leads to a thrombus or aclot which can then break loose you have
a heart attack or stroke. Soit gets a little complicated, but at
the end of the day, togo to your point, it goes back
to how what you eat and howyou live. We have always been vulnerable
as a species to heart disease.We have the remains of our ancient,

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ancient ancient ancestors Ootsi the iceman who'sfound intact. Well when they examined him,
did sort of a biopsy with him, they found that he had heart
disease. So we've always been vulnerableas a species. And in today's world,

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this modern world that we live in, high stress, bad food,
and this tendency to form plaques makesit even more worse than our ancient ancestors.
So that's where the heart drops comeinto play. Well. They also
the dramatic increase in females having heartattacks. It's claimed that women now have

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fifty one percent of heart attacks,slightly more than men, which is you
know, you can understand that somany ladies in the work world responsibilities dress,
still have the home to look afterand family. We're going to leave
it there for just a minute,Doc, while we have a message from
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Wayne Elliott and my special guest today, doctor Michael Garco with us from Tampa,

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Florida and a good friend and sharingsome of his wealth of knowledge with
us today. Where we left off, Doc was the talking about the various
conditions of our arteries. And youknow, my grandmother, my dad's mum,
she had what they called in thosedays. This is back in nineteen

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early sixties, hardening of the arteries. And it went from some confusion with
my grandma too of course, gettingto a point where she didn't know any
of us, and then to apoint where she really wasn't there. I
mean, she was alive, butvery sad. And when my dad was

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sixty years old, he was told, after a bunch of tests the Boston
Medical Center that he too would sufferthe same fate and he likely would not
know his name by age sixty five. And thankfully my dad took the Stross
heart drops, you know, becausehe developed another heart problem. They did
an angioplasty the balloon treatment on myfather in Boston and booked him for open

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heart surgery. And luckily I wasable to excuse me, talk my dad
into taking the Stross heart drops,and I think after three months he returned
to Boston and they canceled his openheart surgery. So and I can say
that my dad lived until age seventyseven, and he was lung cancer got

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him from asbestos, and he wassharp as attack mentally until the day he
died. So that was a blessingreally, after seeing how my grandmother went
first for so many years until itfinally finally took her. So you know,
this is this is really what youwere just talking about. Isn't it.
There's there's two different conditions there,right. Arterior Sclerosis is the stiffening

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of the hardening of the arteries.Aflosclerosis is the narrowing of the arteries and
they go hand, you know.And athlos corrosis is a form of arterior
sclerosis. And again, as aspecies, we are vulnerable to this kind
of disease process. And it's justthe way it is. That's nature's agenda.

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Yeah, you know, wine peoplethink nature is benevolent and wants us
to live a long time. No, it doesn't. Nature's agenda is to
have the species propagate early and oftenraise the offspring and then move you out
of the way. In the yearnineteen hundred, Waine average life expectancy was

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about in the mid forties forty seven. That was it. And then we
developed, you know, better sanitationmethods, We developed the phy chronic diseases,
infectious diseases and so on, andwe were able to live longer.
We're not living longer because we're necessarilyliving better or eating better. It's medical

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science. It's keeping people alive.So we're really violating nature's agenda by having
people live a long long time.Nature wants us to move us out of
the way. Hence, in myview, that's why we have this propensity
to develop disease. If everybody lived, it'd be two hundred and fifty years
old on average. The planet wouldn'tbe able to sustain itself. So nature

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has figured that out. So whatwe're fighting here is evolution. And you
know, we are a biological entity, and therefore we are susceptible to disease.
However, we shouldn't con Aging doesn'tnecessarily mean becoming diseased, just a

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coincidence that as we age, diseaseis forming, and it's forming because of
the way we have lived. Youcan age successfully and not necessary early suffer
all these chronic diseases. There arepeople in their eighties don't take any medications,
don't have any signs of heart disease, are cognitively aware, and so

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on, but many or not.There was a cover story in a magazine
a few years ago duck I foundvery interesting. The cover story was titled
how to Live to be one hundredand not Regret It, And they had
about a dozen different folks, ladiesand men they interviewed, and it was

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very interesting. But some of thethings they had in common. Many of
them were were farmers or tended largegardens. They kept active to the extent
of even just for half an houror three cores of an hour a day
out on their hands and knees,picking weeds, picking some of their produce,
and staying active. The other thingwas none of them were overweight.

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They ate to live. They didn'tlive to eat like I used to.
Uh, you know, so theydidn't become terribly overweight. They got some
exercise. The one one fellow who'dmade it to ninety nine or one hundred,
they asked, what, what whatdo you attribute to your your good

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life? Long life too? Notsmoking? He said, heck no,
I smoked for sixty five years,uh and before I quit. But it
was all these other things, youknow, uh, eating eating pretty healthy.
They weren't. Most farmers aren't eatingall these packaged foods, you know.
They're they're eating what they grow.And uh, I thought that was

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very interesting. On the other hand, Dock, there was evidence came out
after the viet the Terrible Vietnam Conflictthat Americans and some Canadians were involved in
over in Vietnam that these young menwhen they returned, it was discovered that
they had plaquing in the arteries aswell. And they were young young men,

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mostly very fit, you know,eighteen to twenty five years old.
That was very surprising to me.So this isn't This isn't something just that
just starts in your older years.Is that it's a process, believe it
or not. What we're seeing nowwe have this epidemic called the obesity epidemic,
and only affects adults. It affectschildren as well, overweight and obesity.

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What we're now starting to see iswhat they call fatty streaks in the
arteries of youngsters, children eight nine, ten years old, even a little
younger, the beginning of heart diseasestarting early in life, because many of
these youngsters are overweight and obese,and many of these youngsters are on adult

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medications, blood pressure medications, anticholesterol medications. These are kids and there
they're afflicted with adult diseases and it'sattributed to obesity. So again, there
are many modifiable risk factors. They'renon modifiable works factors. Aging your ethnicity

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and so on, and your geneticinheritance. You may have a propensity for
heart disease. You inherited that onthe other hand, more much of the
variance of heart diseases accounted for bydiet and lifestyle. The heart drops is
constituted of particular herbs that help keepthe arteries, help fight the oxidation.

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Formation of free radicals helped to keepthe arteries free of plaquing. The heart
drops can help dissolve the soft plaque. We know that age garlic can help
do that. Once the plaque becomescrystallized, it's very, very difficult then

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to do anything about that. Thefatty plaque. The heart drops age garlic
has these compounds that will help todissolve or rid the arteries of that kind
of plaquing. But once the arteriesare are occupied with, you know,
the hardened plaque, the crystallized plaque, calcified plaque that's no pun intends almost

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set in stone. So the heartdrops taken in a regular, systematic,
consistent way. And notice my language, regular systematic consistent way. You can't
do as catch as catch can,because if you do catch as catch can
in betwtween catch and catch can,disease likes to progress. So it's something

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it gets consistency. Taking them everyday twice a day following the directions and
the instructions and being devoted to thatwill help in my view, as you
have found out. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. The herbs in here,

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hawthorne, European mistletoe leaf, hawthorneleaf and flower, mother, war
cayenne age, garlic itself, billberry, white, willow bark, all
of these herbs. When I wasworking on my degree in clinical nutrition,
I took a course in botanical medicineand I I just thought it was a

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wonderful course. These are these herbswere the medicines of our ancient ancestors.
People don't understand that there was nopharmacy or walk in clinic. They used
food and the herbs and the spicesto keep them healthy. And that's what's
so remarkable about these kinds of products. And whether it's the heart drops,

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the kidney support formula, the prostateformula, the bound a support formula,
they're all constituted of these fabulous andreally now scientifically proven an effective herbs.
And that's what makes these products sospecial. But Jim Stross always he always
had a saying doctor Garco that ifyou're not made from it, it cannot

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fix you. And he'd say thatyou know, expecting man made chemical drugs
to actually fix us is like takingour car to the lumberyard to fix with
two by fours and plywood. Youcan't do it. You need materials that
the car is made from, andso we need cells that we're made from

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in order to fix us. Now, of course, most pharmaceuticals, all
that I know of, don't claimto fix things. They basically deal with
the symptoms. But I do thinkthat's true. It makes perfect sense to
me that if you're not made fromit, it cannot fix you. And
you know, the things I've seenwith these natural herbal botanical formulas have been

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quite amazing. Really. I mean, it's painless, non invasive way to
help ourselves. You know, it'sthis business of Look, most people get
up every day. They're not thinkingabout these things. They get up.
They got to pay the bills.They've got to go to work, they

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got to raise the kids, theygot to do this, They've got to
do that. And so you know, I've devoted my life and my time
and my effort to do the hardwork of doing the research and inform people
and to make them aware of wherethe pitfalls and traps and the landmines are
and when it comes to heart disease, there are many of them, weighing

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many smoking, poor nutritional inactivity,excessive alcohol consumption, high stress, high
blood pressure, elevated LDL LDL,the low density lipoproteins low HDL, elevated
triglyceride levels, glucose intolerance, ironoverload, diabetes, overweight, metabolic syndrome.

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I can go down the list,man, and there's so many of
them. And at the end ofthe day, though, if people would
become overwhelmed. And so when I'mworking with my clients, you know,
it's diet and lifestyle. This iswhere you can do things in dietary supplementation.
And that's why I in part ofmy practice with my clients, I

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include the Strauss products because you know, it's not so hard for people to
do. They're more compliant to takethese products. They're liquid, they don't
have to swallow pills, and it'sa little easier for them. Yeah.
A few years ago, when youknow we heard that more children, young
children eight and ten and twelve yearsold, we're experiencing hypertension, I was

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I just couldn't believe it, andI was felt a little stress over that
dock. And what they did theydid a study and of course there are
so many of these electronic games nowvideo games and so forth that the children
and people enjoy so much, andthey discovered it was in activity, the

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lack of activity. And when theygot these children in this study outside for
a minimum of an hour a day, like when we were young, our
mothers would tell us, get theheck outside and play and get out from
under our feet. But they knewwhat they were doing, you know,
they keeping moving. We were givingarms and legs for a reason. Doc
Hey, absolutely, And on thatlist that I was going to I could

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add homocystein ce reactive protein. Butthere's one common factor among all of them.
All of those risk factors tend toinspire or create inflammation. Inflammation is
part of the healing process, butwhen an excess becomes part of the damage

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damaging process. That turns out thatwhen you age garlic, it has this
ability to help moderate that inflammation.And one of the keys the aging successfully
is to keep inflammation levels as lowas possible as you age, because that's

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where the damage is being done.It's a good thing that has gone bad
again. Inflammation is part of theimmune system. It's part of the body's
way to heal. But when thearteries are consistently being damaged by bad food,
bad lifestyle, too much stress,you know, all those things that

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I mentioned, smoking and whatever,all those toxic chemicals from the environment keep
damaging the arteries. The body wantsto repair. That's it's instinctive response,
and in that process you're creating inflammation. And inflammation can be very destructive if
that switch is left on all thetime. So heart heart drops tend to

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moderate that inflammation. That's part ofthat's part of its method of repair and
healing. And when you age thegarlic, aging creates chemicals that didn't exist
in the garlic prior to the aging. That's why that's why they age it.

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Yeah, and I don't want toget into all of that because that's
it gets a little complicated, butthat's what that's why they're aging it.
And Strauss has figured out their methodof aging to produce their product. Yeah.
Yeah, Well we've sure seen justloads and loads of great results taking

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these products doc and they you know, the cardial support for helping the body
repair damaged heart cells and and forirregular heartbeat has been very successful. And
you know, I suffered a rhythmiaat a at a young age, relatively
speaking. I was still in mythirties after the angina started with the arrhythmia.

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But I'll tell you growing numbers astime goes on. Some of my
former teammates didn't experience it until theygot into their sixties, and you know,
they strouss always figured. He alwayssaid that heavy weightlifting and football were
stupid games. And when I askedhim why, he said, because we're
not horses, and when we dothese things that you know, it's a

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fact that people that play, menthat play in the down linement position in
football, to play four or fiveyears past high school, lived ten years
shorter than the average male population.And there's some sad stories, you know,
congestive heart failure and so forth,and pacemakers and so, you know,
a rhythmi is. I know,some people feel like I did.

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I felt every race beat. Otherpeople don't feel their their irregular heartbeat,
which is in one sense of blessingbecause it drove me crazy with mine.
But as time goes on, moreand more of my friends former football players
have needed this formula. And thelongest it took was one of my dear

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friends and teammates who was also abodybuilder, owned fitness clubs, and he
was six months on the cardio calmbefore he was finished with his irregular heartbeat
events. And you know, Iwas only three months, but jeez,
mine was twenty four seven dock forfor years and I felt every beat.

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Sometimes I would wake up in thenight and and and kind of gas not
thinking I was going to get thenext breath. It can be a very
strange feeling. But the cardio calm, the cardio support formula has uh has
has has been a very good formulafor that. And I don't know what
else causes it really unless it's justis the overworking of the heart. I

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mean, the heart's really a pump, right right. It's it's a it's
a electro chemical system. Um.And you can when you when when the
artery has become constricted and you knowthe heart is working very hard, you
can you can get into this realmof of the heart behaving in an irregular

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fashion. You know, you dothe EKG and all that business and try
to figure that all out. Um, it does get start, it starts
to get It's complicated. What wehave found is that people taking the heart
drops in combination with the cardio calmis a nice combination. But there's something
else going on here too. Wayne, Your heart and your kidneys are intimately

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connected. Kidney disease promotes heart disease. Heart disease promotes kidney disease, and
people sometimes don't understand that your cardiologistdoes. And oftentimes people wonder, why
why's my cardiologist interested in my kidneys? You know, high blood pressure affects

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the kidneys. High blood pressure meansthat it's not just for the coronary arteries
you're putting. There's too much pressureon the inner lining of the wall,
not only in the coronary arteries,but in all the arteries systemically throughout your
body, including your kidneys. Wecan get into that what's called the RAZ

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system. It's a little complicated howthe kidneys are affecting the heart and heart's
affecting the kidneys, but they haveto work in tandem, and so taking
if you have heart disease high bloodpressure, it's also mindful and a good
thing to do to take the kidneysupport drops along with it, so so

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that you can have a better result. Many people figure this out. Some
don't. Some don't however, andthat's why the kid I always try to
people that have heart disease encourage themto take the kidney support and to try
to take care of their kidneys aswell. I was an example of that

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myself, doctor Garko, when mydoctor warned me back in those days many
years ago that he was worried,concerned my blood pressure was was too high.
And I was kind of disappointed thatthe Stress heart drops did not lower
my blood pressure those in those firstmonths of taking them, and I spoke

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to Jim Stross about it when Imet him after taking the Stross heart drops
for four months, and he said, well, it must be your kidneys
and introduced me to his kidney formula. Sure enough, three months my blood
pressure dropped. My doctor was veryhappy. It was one twenty over seventy
and it stayed there. That's that'sbeen my usual blood pressure now for twenty

(38:29):
five years, which I you know, I found remarkable. But that's just
proof to what you're saying. There'sa there's a definite, definite connection there
and between the kidneys and our heartand this high blood pressure business, or
silent killer as it's been called usuallydon't feel high blood pressure, do you?

(38:50):
You just did? Exists and cankill you sometimes what you'll some people,
you know, there are different symptomsfor high blood pressure. One is
feeling fatigue, having a hard timebreathing, maybe from time to time,
feeling dizzy. So it is.But on a whole you're right, it
is called the silent killer. Andagain you know that's the problem here.

(39:15):
It happens over a lifetime. Ittakes usually decades for it to manifest in
its full blown form, beginning earlyin childhood. As I alluded to earlier.
Now with the obesity epidemic among children, they're beginning to form heart disease
at an early age, and soby the time they're in twenties, they

(39:37):
you know, their heart is theage of a middle aged person. Yeah,
in terms of the health of thearteries, you're only as healthy and
old as your arteries are, period, full stop, one hundred percent.
This one. Now, all thesystems of the body are important. Digestive

(39:58):
system, endercan system, you know, all of them are important. I
get it. But this particular,the part, you know, the party
of vascular system, no pun intended, really does get at the heart of
the matter. Yeah, yeah,I don't know. Something else that Jim
Strouss always touted doctor Garcole, andI I tend to believe it. It

(40:23):
makes perfect sense to me. Hewould say that if a person had planned
to lose a lot of weight,to caution them to do a detox,
do some of these good cleanses,either beforehand or during the weight loss process.
The thinking being this, whatever percentagethey say, the average person could

(40:47):
have up to thirty pounds of toxinsinside them. And so if you took
a person that was just to usenumbers, three hundred pounds that wanted to
lose weight and get down to twohundred pounds, if they didn't cleanse some
of these toxins and poisons, thena larger percentage of their mass would be

(41:12):
toxins and poisons when they lost thatweight. And I think most of us
have seen people who have lost aconsiderable amount of weight that didn't look so
good, their color wasn't very good, and sometimes they've taken all and died.
And I believe that is the reasonis that they've they've just increased,
if you will, by losing weight, But you can't lose the weight of

(41:36):
the toxins and poisons unless you goright after them with the likes of these
cleansing formulas. But to just losea lot of weight and not do a
good cleanses and detoxes, we definitelyrun that risk. It made perfect sense
to me, this business of youknow, ending up a larger percentage of
you being poisoned. So it's Ialways felt that that was a very important

(42:00):
thing. There's a lot of peopleout there to lose a lot of weight.
My former teammate and best buddy,he actually moved into my home for
two years. He was very sick, and as he lost the hundred and
sixty pounds, going from four hundreddown to two forty, he was detoxing
the whole time and taking these formulasand and it worked out well as color

(42:22):
remained good. And you know,we've talked about blue lips and blue bluish
gray skin before two doc being beinglack of blood flow. And I've seen
the heart drops bring people back toa nice even color like we're supposed to
be so many times right because you'reyou know, you're you're you're trying,

(42:44):
you're making a little bit more roomin that vessel. Again, that that
soft fatty plaque. The heart dropsthe age garlic. And by the way,
this is not just hocus pocus orjust ending all. There are hundreds
of studies to show that age,if not thousands, age garlic does have

(43:07):
this property of keeping the arteries healthyand helping to remove the soft fatty plaque
and making you're making more room inthe lumen. The lumen is the space
in the artery you're you're creating sothere's less pressure when you're putting pressure on

(43:29):
the pipes. Eventually those pipes willbreak. Same thing with the arteries.
They don't necessarily well, they canrupture, but what you're doing is you're
damaging You're the pressure is scoring thatendothelium, that tissue, and again the
body's trying to repair it with cholesteroland whatnot and platelets and so on.

(43:52):
Pass by get more damaged, andit's a mass, and it gets worse
and worse over time, and itis a silent killer. It takes a
long time to do. This businessabout the kidneys being connected to the to
the partio vascular system is really akind of complicated. And I could get

(44:16):
into talking about Rennin and Ngeo Tensonand all these other things, and to
show how that maybe we can dothat on another show that that really is
a show unto itself to explain thatrelationship. It is complicated, but what
the audience needs to know and understandkidneys and a heart and lungs are all

(44:38):
intimately interconnected. And so these productsfrom Strouss tend to work better when you're
using them together. The hard drops, the kidney formula, the cardio comp
and that bladder support. I takeall of them, and as you age,
you know, you say, wellI feel fine. Well yeah,

(45:00):
but are you Yeah? You couldyou could be ready to have a heart
attack and not even none. Therehave been more than a few people on
a golf course that a vapor locked, you know, at the eighteenth hole.
So I'm just saying, well,you still look pretty good for a
guy that's almost forty duck. Oh, thank you very much. You lie,

(45:25):
you lie, well, you suredo look healthy and it's it's great
to see it look so good.Okay, doctor Garco, thank you.
We'll be back in just a minute. After the words. These words from
our spontsor Quayne Elliott on the Strousscompany, famous for effective natural medicines and
a gain making original formulas for heartdisease, kidneys, diabetes, and blood

(45:47):
pressure. Years ago, I hadwonderful experiences and can tell stories till the
cows come home of the world famousStross heart drops to save my life and
my parents by helping return full bloodflow. Strokes products are one hundred percent
natural, safe satisfaction guaranteed. Youcan't go wrong. I promise it.
Finds stories everywhere or online at Strossnatural dot com. Okay, welcome back,

(46:20):
folks. We've been having a conversationwith my guest, doctor Michael Garco,
a very highly educated gentleman who spenthis whole life studying about health and
nutrition. And it's always a pleasurefor me to speak to doctor Garco.
We've done a lot of radio shows. I was a guest on more than
fifty of his shows. Let's let'stalk nutrition. So he's here today sharing

(46:45):
his wealth of knowledge with us.We've just been talking about clogged arteries and
these issues with heart disease and howwe're experiencing today. We're seeing today even
young children with hypertension and cholesterol issues. And we've talked about this before,

(47:07):
Doctor Garko some of it has todo with less activity. Back when we
were young, our mothers would showus outside to play and get some exercise,
and whether it was snow on orit was hot outside, we were
to get outside. And of coursewith these video games and other things,
there's there's many kids that are leadinga much less active childhood than than what

(47:31):
many of us did years ago,and obesity and other problems, hypertension and
such are becoming the results. AndI think I'd like to stress for the
folks listening in doc the the importanceof clean tissues and these Stross formulas like
the world famous Stross heart drops forkeeping our blood system, arteries, veins

(47:55):
and vessels clean and giving us bloodflow everywhere we're meant to have it,
which is every single cell in ourbodies. You know, the cardio formula
for damaged heart cells to help ourbody rebuild damaged heart cells for arrhythmia irregular
heartbeat is what it fixed for me. I'm so grateful for many many years

(48:15):
ago. The bladder formula, Fabulousformula, the kidney formula, and the
prostate formula for men uh. Thebladder, kidney, and prostate Doctor Garco
all have in common the Golden Sealroute, which is a highly effective antibiotic
herb. As you know, uhand uh, you know, it's just

(48:37):
wonderful. They're they're they're non invasive, they've been shown to be safe,
they're economical. I always say thatto take one of these formula's doc costs
about the same as a small drivethrough cup of coffee. And so just
to put it in perspective, uhuh, and the results, for the

(48:59):
most part, no one has totell you you're doing better. You will.
You will generally feel it when thatenergy increases with the blood flow and
so forth. Yeah, you will. And you know, these products the
heart drops, and I'm going tojust put it pair it up here for
a second with the kidney support formulaare constituted of botanicals, herbs. These

(49:24):
ancient herbs, herbs are the yetanother gift from nature. Now, I'm
all about the science. I've beentrained in that tradition. I've had great
professors, great background in training.But I'm also a great believer in traditional
knowledge that's been passed on for centuries, if not thousands of years, from

(49:46):
one generation and ancestry to another.And we know that botanicals and if you
look at Chinese medicine, it's overfive thousand years old. Are your vitic
medicine rely heavily heavily on herbs andspices. There's a reason. Remember this
is always about chemistry too. Peopleseem to forget it is chemistry. These

(50:12):
botanicals have these properties, these chemicalproperties that have all sorts of positive effects
on our system generally and specific systemslike the cardiovascular system. And I mentioned
the heart drops and the kidney supportformula together because your heart and your kidneys

(50:35):
are intimately inextricably connected. Kidney diseasecan promote heart disease. Heart disease can
promote kidney disease. We could getinto that in a lot of detail,
but generally speaking, there is avery strong correlation. That's why many cardiologists
are very much interested in the kidneyfunction and health of their patients and refer

(51:00):
them out sometimes to a physician whocan take care of that as well.
So you know, it's a goodidea to consider if you have, especially
if you have heart disease or ifyou have kidney disease or both, to
take to take these products in tandem, take them together. It's a must.
The heart drops and the kidney formula. Yes, I agree with you.

(51:21):
And if you have hypertension, highblood pressure, whether it is your
kidneys or your heart, that's thecause, taking both of those will will
look after it. My case,it was the kidneys with my high blood
pressure many years ago, and inthree months on the kidney formula, my
blood pressure ever since has been onetwenty over seventy. Now. The strokes,

(51:45):
heart drops, I'll never quit taking. I since it seems to run
in my family, the heart diseaseand hardening of the arteries and clogged arteries,
heart attacks and so forth. It'sbeen our number one killer, that's
for sure in my family. SoI you know, at in my sixty

(52:06):
ninth year, I don't want tostart clogging up again, Doc, I
don't want any blood flow restrictions.I the first, the first thing that
happened to me with the heart dropsafter two weeks, was the hearing returned
to my left ear. Never dreamedit had anything to do with flesh,
never dreamed that. I was shockedwhen it happened to me, truthfully,
and so you know it's not justas you can confirm, it's not just

(52:30):
our heart, arteries or the crowdedarteries running to our brain. Uh,
it's everywhere our blood flows. Weneed that blood and just to the tiniest
vessels. When I think of folkswith grayish blue lips or skin, that's
that's a lack of blood flow tothe skin. And uh, in no
time you'll see them after taking strossheart drops have an even color and uh,

(52:54):
and lose that bluish gray. We'renot meant to be that color,
no, even at Halloween. Soit is it is important here to understand
that high blood pressure is one ofthose risk factors for coronary artery disease because

(53:16):
high blood pressure, as in thewords pressure is putting. There's pressure put
against the inner lining of the artery, the endothelium. And when you put
pressure against that artery the more andif it's consistent and persistent, you begin
to damage that lining to score it, and the body wants to repair it,

(53:39):
and in the process of repairing it, you start this plaquing process,
which we could get into. Butthe point is here that there are a
number of modifiable and non modifiable riskfactors for coronary artery disease. In terms

(53:59):
of of these non modifiable risk factors. You know, aging is non modifiable.
You're going to age whether you wantto or not. Your ethnicity race.
We know that for example, Africanmales, African American males have a

(54:21):
greater propensity for heart disease high bloodpressure than do other other males of other
races, which is kind of interestingand sore. And then they're your genetics.
But then there's that modifiable list.Your diet and your lifestyle get implicated
heavily here. And I've mentioned thesevariables before. These these risk factors,

(54:46):
smoking, poor nutrition, physical inactivityor sedentary lifestyle, excessive alcohol consumption,
high stress, stress as a killerman. I've done so many shows on
stress, high blood pressure, elevatedlow density the book protein. People call
that the bad cholesterol or hot whenthat's high or when the good cholesterol the

(55:12):
hdo high density the book protein islow. Your trianglycerides too high glucose intolerance,
which is diabetes will cause heart disease. Vibrida gen home with cystein see
react to protein. And then theoverarching nemesis and and culprit inflammation. Inflammation

(55:34):
is always implicated when healing and whendamage is done, it's a good thing
gone bad, too much inflammation becauseyou're consistently damaging the arteries with a bad
diet, bad lifestyle, and environmentaltoxins that are getting into your into your
system. So it does get alittle complicated. But then when you're distill

(55:58):
it down, you just need tobe practicing a good diet, good lifestyle,
and good dietary supplementation in a veryconsistent way. You must be consistent.
As I mentioned to you on othershows, doing catches catch can doesn't
work and the people say, wellI took those and they didn't work.

(56:20):
Well, they when they're sitting onthe counter, they're not gonna work.
You gotta take You have to unscrewthat, lind I gonna take them.
Yeah, you gotta take them,folks. To find out more information or
to order any of the Fine Strokesproducts online, go to Strouss Naturals dot
com. That's str Auss Naturals dotcom or call toll free eight sixty six

(56:45):
four seven eight two eight seven three. Thank you for being with us today,
and thank you to doctor Michael Garco. Always a great pleasure. And
h you look great, Doc.You keep up the good work yourself,
and thanks for joining us, folks. They will be back with you next
week at the same time at thesame hour. Look forward to being with

(57:06):
you then for another interesting show withanother great guest. And until then,
stay well. I'm a god.Bless your homes then, Wayne Elliott on
the Strouss company, famous for effectivenatural medicines and again making original formulas for

(57:30):
heart disease, kidneys, diabetes,and blood pressure. Years ago, I
had wonderful experiences and can tell storiestill the cows come home of the world
famous Stross heart drops that saved mylife and my parents by helping return full
blood flow. Stross products are onehundred percent natural, safe, satisfaction guaranteed
you can't go wrong. I promisethat finds stories everywhere or online at Stross

(57:52):
Naturals dot com.
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