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May 9, 2025 20 mins
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   In today's insightful discussion, we dive deep into the often-controversial topic of body count and its relevance in a mature Christian relationship. Should past sexual experiences influence your present love life?
Whether you're single, dating, or in a committed partnership, understanding the significance of body count might just transform your outlook on love and commitment. Don’t miss out on this enlightening dialogue! 

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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A while while ago, there was this guy I was saying,
and I believe about close to six months of talking.
One day, the conversation naturally happened, and casually I asked
him about how many women he had been intimate with,
because in my case, I was inexperienced. But though I
was innocent, I knew that he was experienced, and for

(00:22):
some curious reason, I was just interested in knowing that
part of him. Back then, as I said earlier, I
was too innocent to be trying to be philosophical or
theological about much. Therefore, my reason then was more so curiosity. Now,
with that being said, I was not ready for the

(00:44):
answer that I received. Out of curiosity, what number will
shock you? Please let me know in the comments section
from wherever you're listening or in my socials. Now, this
twenty eight year old guy proceeded to tell me that
he had been with close to five thousand women. Listen.

(01:09):
It has been so long ago that every time I
think about it, I cannot not question my memory. I
tell you truthfully, I didn't know that this kind of
number was possible for one person. But today, looking back
and knowing more, I feel sorry for him, and I
can't stop wondering why, what must have happened to get there?

(01:32):
And why keep an account? Well, we didn't last long
enough for me to explore more of that reality. That's
why I want to know. Do you care to know
about the number of people your partner's been with before you?
Or is this a trivial question to ask anyone? Welcome

(02:07):
to Here is Eden, the space where there is peace, innocence,
growth and joy. You may now leave your fear, your
judgment and murmur at the gate.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Disclaimer, The atmosphere you're about to enter will suscitate questioning, opinions, conversation, thinking, growth,
or not. Be informed that what you're about to hear
is not from an expert. And remember that the greatest
specialist an expert that there is is Elohim himself. Now,

(02:57):
if you may, let's get comfort and enjoy. I am
a beautiful, loving souls. How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (03:05):
House? Life, your family, you work, your relationship with God?
I hope you are doing well. And if you do not,
as I always say, do not despair. It is just
a season. They'll be better is coming. As for me,
I am feeling fantastic and I want to ask you
to please join me in celebrating these three years of

(03:26):
Here is Eden podcast. Yes, I celebrated for years in
April twenty fifth, So I am feeling great, thankful, grateful
for God to have keep me going and giving me
the strength to keep pushing. For those of you who
do not know me, my name is Rita aka Babyface,

(03:46):
and I want to welcome you to this podcast that
is Here is Eden. So if you're a regular listener,
I want to say wow, come, yes, we celebrate you.
If you are a new listener, yes, so welcome to
Here's Eating podcast, which mission is to serve and respond

(04:07):
to the needs of Christian celibate and where we also
speak about relationship in general. If you find some value
out of any topics that is discussed on this platform,
please leave me likes, comments, and share discontent everywhere and
look at my socials to find for more content. My
prayer for you is that you take anything from what

(04:30):
will be discussed and that so together we enjoy, we grow,
and we learn. So if you are regular, you know
how we do. So before I can keep on talking,
so please allow me to just give a quick thanks
to my father. So let's pray Father God, I give you.
Thanks for everything you do. Thank you for just life.
Thank you for the purpose. Thank you for allowing me

(04:53):
to be here, to have a voice for the God
and hopefully to be able to bring more soul into
your kingdom and use me as best as you see fit.
As I always say, you are worthy, our God and Lord,
to be praised and to receive glory, honor, and power,
for you created all things, and by your will they

(05:13):
were created and have there being a man, a man,
let's go, My people welcome. It will be no surprise
I hope to hear that we live in a lustful

(05:33):
and sociable society. What I mean by that is that
culture popularized trends like living My Best life, hot Girl Summer,
Pharaoh Goal Summer, which by the way, I didn't even
know anything about, just finding out, or that girl, and
glow ups and hook up culture and more. These trends

(05:54):
encourage young people or young adult to embrace a specific lifestyle,
which often rhymes with being liberated one night stands, potentially
being messy, you have multiple casual intimate partners without necessarily
being emotionally involved or commit and essentially, these trends are
created to validate empower and celebrate confidence and self love.

(06:20):
Now with this kind of lifestyle, what more is expected
if not for people to have, as they called it,
body counts, which, by the way, sounds terrible. Body counts
makes me think of bodies falling after being shot. So
people out there are just shooting at anyone who could

(06:40):
get it. Yeah, essentially, that's how it sounds like. And
the fact that after shooting one keeps count makes the
whole thing psychedelic, not gonna lie. So question, if you
are a man in this society living this way, meaning
having multiple intimate partners and whatnot and what not, and
you meet a young lady who shares your life views,

(07:04):
would you ask her about her body counts? If yes,
why without interfer to delay, Please allow me to properly
introduce to this topic to you, which is, let's just
cut it short, body counts. I mainly started asking this

(07:30):
question too many initially because I feel like also society
wants to pretend being open and accepting of many practices.
Reality is that there are still some standards that are acceptable.
And I say that based on the fact that a
girl or a woman living that way will find herself
called out of her name, whereas it seems to be

(07:52):
the opposite. For a man, he obviously may be called
out of his name, but most of the time he
comes across us a player or a tough one, you know, like, hey,
you really doin it like it's a pride thing, right.
And while this information that is body count is personal
and private, I am still very shocked to this day

(08:13):
to watch some shows where men or women casually ask
that question to one another on public platform. I'm curious
to know if or when you ask do you ask
that question to gauge someone's potential level of experience or
to assess if this situation will be a flinger or

(08:34):
potential long term relationship or the last one? Whenever you've
asked about it, where there some judgment attached to it?
And please let's try answering the most honest possible, all
right with me asking you all of that, you might
be wondering, what about you and your five thousand m

(08:56):
You're right, that is quite a numb I'm not gonna lie,
and I'm sure that some people out there might be
laughing at me because they have more than this. But
can you believe that there are cities with a population
of five thousand people, just saying the truth is sure thing.

(09:18):
I was shook at it, and that's beyond shocked when
I found out about the five thousands. But I did
not let him go because of that. I already was
suspicious of certain things, and God, prayers and time just
proved me right, and there was no way I stayed.
I needed other proof to walk away. And let's just

(09:38):
say I was very I was young. The point is,
let's be real. Most people ask that question from a
place of judgment. I know, I know that there could
be other reasons for you to ask, just like I
did and do. But we all of us are sinners,
and naturally we tend to judge or compare one situation

(09:59):
to just to see who's worse than us and justify
our wrongs. Accordingly, tell me now that if your partner
told you that they had been with five thousand people,
you wouldn't think, yo, what's wrong with you that you've
been out like this and with so many people? Or boy,

(10:23):
what you have going on in terms of sdi per se.
You may even call them dotty dirty or think about it,
or even wondering how its circumstances they've been involved in
if they were safe and controlled. The thing is, that
is just what most human beings would do. Even if
we try convincing ourselves that we are not judgmental and

(10:45):
that hey, their lives are theirs and yariyada. Deep down
we're like dang yep because it is out of the norm.
I get it. Society is changing and has changed over time. Therefore,
societal norms also have shifted. Things that once were unacceptable
become acceptable and vice versa. Now, for my Christians out there,

(11:09):
if one have had a promiscuous lifestyle as an unbeliever
in the past and have accumulated body counts, let's stay
on topic and later on give their life to Christ.
How do you think that their past would impact their
future in settling down with a Christian who has not
shared a similar lifestyle. As Christians and believers, we know

(11:44):
and have a firm assurance that our God's character, Elohim,
and the Word do not change their mutable. Since the
genesis of things, meaning the beginning, everything God told man
came to fruition. He had told man not to eat
from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, for
in the day that they will eat of it, they

(12:07):
shall surely die, and death is the most certain thing
that we deal with, and it does not discriminate up
until today. And as God and the Word nature do
not change, guess whose ambition also do not change?

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
The devil he has been identified since the beginning as
the one who deceives the whole world. Prophetic scriptures and
history have demonstrated throughout thousands of years how Satan never
straight away from his game plan that is destroying the
Creator's seed us, and that is to many disguises or

(12:46):
kind of fit. He manipulates the truth that is the
word of our Savior Christ, just like he did in
Eden by lying to mankind that we will become as
God and not die. The lies continue, my friends, he
the devil has not changed. Now as to new Christian

(13:09):
walking in faith with body Count's history. On a spiritual
and biblical approach, we believers are informed by the Word
that once made new in Christ, we become a new creation,
new men, and grace and forgiveness cover us. Although this
new creation does not necessarily mean that we return to

(13:30):
the innocence of the beginning in Eden, but through the
love and mercy of our God and the sacrificial work
of our one and only Savior Christ. We are reconciled
with our Father in heaven and have hope to partake
in his family kingdom and plans hope in eternity void

(13:51):
of struggles. Now, this is how us believers spiritually should
handle new Christian walking in faith with a history of
multiple intimate partners, because the judgment belongs to God. With
that being said, practically speaking, do y'all think that a
disparity in sexual experience and incompatibility would not impact the

(14:15):
relationship whether it is Christian based or not. Though we
may choose to accept our partners past and the fact

(14:37):
that they're changed and are now a new creation, a
new man in the weakness of our flesh, we have
to acknowledge the possibility of eventually maybe feeling insecure about
our ability in the long run to please them, considering
that they're the one having experienced multiple partners. In the

(14:57):
situation where there is a huge difference experience in being intimate,
it is possible that this gap could lead to unhealthy comparisons, jealousy,
and eventually put a strain onto the relationship. When the
Bible emphasizes that physical intimacy is intended to be within
the bonds of marriage. It is not wrong, and it

(15:21):
is not to punish us because what has testing in
quotation your partner done for you? How come having multiple
partners or being with one sharing the same views as
you ask, or whoever eliminated divorce or the amount of
singleness for that matter. Why? Because it is a lie. Yeah,

(15:43):
it is a lie to think that physical intimacy or
into a course to be more specific, is a fundamental
need whom I hear the pushback, Now hear me out.
It is essential for human survival, for reproductivity, otherwise are

(16:03):
kind will disappear one hundred percent. But have you ever
heard of a man who died because he lacked physical
intimacy or in a course? If you have please to share, We,
in the other hand, can surely attest that lacking of water, food,
a shelter and air will end you. Now, I'm not

(16:27):
done playing the importance of emotional security, love, support, family, touch,
satisfying our innate and physical needs and all that. What
I'm saying is that just like first the Salonian four
through the five in the Bible says, and I paraphrase,
we Christians are to be set apart and avoid sexual immorality,

(16:48):
and we should learn to control our own body in
a way that is wholly and honorable, not in a
passionate lost like pagans who do not know God in
his We can agree that physical intimacy or in of course,
can be controlled. We have the ability to control our
body in that matter, in that aspect, But dehydration tarvation

(17:14):
will end us. You know, will and us. If you
were stranded alone on a desert island and had absolutely
no idea about the outcome of your future, would you
be concerned about carnal desire or about fundamental needs to
keep you alive, such as what food? And hopefully just

(17:37):
so you don't lose your mind, find someone to talk to.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Tell me.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I know, let me know what y'all think in the
comments my social or from wherever you're listening, they are
my friends. I hope that I was able not only
to spark a conversation, but hopefully create awareness about being
more discerning of the shifting society we live in. The

(18:09):
fact that the Bible commands do not change might be
received with a lot of resistance and perceived as old
and overdated, as society seems to be evolving, but it
is not so much about the details of the changes,
but mostly about the fundamentals, the impact and consequences of
our choices in our lives. The decision is individual, it's personal,

(18:34):
and I pray that we all make the right one
that leads to eternity. With that being said, I want
to thank you wholeheartedly for having allowed me in your space,
in your ear, and in your time. I wish you
nothing but love and be safe out there. Have an

(18:58):
amazing day, even night, just have an amazing time. As
I always say, stay beautifully, peacefully and confidently blessed. For you,
my friend, is a unique creation of Elohim. Stay blessed,

(19:18):
my friends.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
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