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Now more of the verdict with NateLucas. You look like a wedge Way.
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You say you've better Wedgeway, Youdo me, you can do all
right. Welcome back, verdict takingme up till three pm today. Eli
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drink Witch told reporters earlier this weekthat he wants to see how Brady Cook
and Sam Horne both do during gameaction in the first couple of contents before
selecting a starter for the season.So, Horn, who was a highly
rated recruit coming out of high schoolbut was red shirted last season, and
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according to some folks who are prettyclose with the program, didn't exactly sound
like Horn was ultra motivated in practiceto try to unseat Brady Cook as the
starter. So you can draw yourown conclusions from some of that rhetoric,
but you know, for a teamthat's looking for competition, if you've got
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a highly rated recruit and he's notbusting his ass in practice to try to
essentially get the starting job, youknow, I don't know how I feel
about that, but the reality isis I think that was the belief of
the coaching staff and the belief aroundthe program. So Brady Cook remained the
starter last season, he completed sixtyfive percent of his passes twenty four hundred
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yards, fourteen touchdown, seven interceptions, And people will always be quick to
point out, you know, wellCook made some nice throws. I mean
Cook, well he let some nicedrives. If you don't have an elite
player at quarterback in college football,I mean to me, you don't.
You really just don't have a wholelot of buzz around your program or your
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team. And as I've been sayingnow, for what feels like since Eli
Drinkwood's got here, you know thisis year four, his quarterbacks have just
been largely blocked. I mean,you just you haven't done enough. In
an era of college football where itis so so imperative to have a star
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quarterback. You haven't even been ableto bring one in via recruit and you
haven't been able to find one onthe transfer portal or whatever it takes.
And this is the guy who issupposedly the offensive genius that just got a
contract extension last year. And I'mnot trying to be mean to Brady Cook,
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but everyone knows if you watch thegames, it's very evident that the
offense basically can't do a whole lotdownfield because Brady Cook can't do a whole
lot downfield. The offense is atits best when Brady Cook tucks the ball
and runs, and he's shifty.He's an athlete, no doubt about it.
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Maybe you could find a way tobuild in some packages for Brady Cook,
but if you had an elite quarterback, maybe you wouldn't have to rely
on Brady Cook to get that done. So when you host the South Dakota
Coyotes on August thirty, first,don't be shocked if you see both Brady
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Cook and Sam Horne during game action. Now the likely starter. I mean,
come on, if you don't thinkthat Brady Cook is gonna be starting
the game against South Dakota, Iwould place a hefty wager on that.
But if he comes out, I'msure he'll lead some drives. You're going
up against a team that's been verygood in the lower division of Division one.
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But he'll come out, he'll putup some nice scoring drives and then
they'll get Sam Horn into the game, likely at some point in the second
half, and then they'll evaluate things. And as I said in the open,
if this were a competition, saywhere Ryan Days the head coach at
Ohio State or in Georgia where you'vegot an ongoing quarterback battle trying to replace
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Stetson Bennett, or an ongoing quarterbackbattle out of Alabama where they're trying to
replace the first overall pick in thedraft price Young. If it's in one
of those three situations, you thinkto yourself, well, they're gonna be
good enough across the board that itprobably you know, they can grow with
a few weeks before you get intothe gauntlet of you they're an SEC or
a big ten schedule, you'll beable to sort of grow with the quarterback
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as they take command of the position. You also feel pretty good that the
player that they're growing into that positionis either a highly recruited, highly touted
recruit, much more highly recruited thansay like a Sam Horne, or this
is a guy in the transfer portalthat should be able to put up big
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numbers. In the case of Missouri, you don't really feel that great about
either. And that's why when Ihear Eli Drinkwitz make comments about how well
both guys are competing in camp,to me, that is manufactured coach speak.
That's not if this were a truequarterback competition, and you had guys
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who were really competing for that numberone job, and man, both are
just right there, and you feelreally good about how they can either one
of them can elevate your offense.If this was a Jalen Hurts versus two,
a tugalavaloa quarterback controversy, then you'dsit there and go, Okay,
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I get it. You know,I'm on all four four. I'm all
for a quarterback competition. Competition shouldbring the best out of the best.
When you're talking about a competition betweenSam Horne and Brady Cook, doesn't quite
do it. Doesn't quite do itfor me. So I wanted to play
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a couple of soundbites on quarterback competitions. This is Dusty and Danny. This
is Danny Dvorcek, who played atOklahoma on a morning program this morning,
talking about how quarterback competition in general. If you were to just talk about
quarterback competition, yeah, okay,that's a thing quarterback competition where it is
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manufactured coach speak that isn't exactly howyou want to draw it up, particularly
if you are entering your fourth seasonat the helm of the Missouri Tiger's football
program. I'm one that says you'dalways rather have one and you'd rather just
work itself out to where it wasobvious to everybody, right that everyone knows
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coaches players. Oh that's the dude. I think in this situation they have
two dudes. So tell me ifyou disagree with that. I don't think
that's a matter of neither one ofthese guys can play like I don't think
he's lying when he says they bothgrade it out at a championship level.
I don't just say that if you'vegot two quarterbacks that aren't capable and aren't
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doing good things when they're taking thefield. So if you have a healthy
quarterback competition that's legit and not likegenerated by the staff, I think that's
great because then you really do getthose guys best and they know. It's
almost like, in a way,a game, because you're you're competing now
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instead of an opponent, you're competingfor this job, and at some point
it'll settle. But my biggest takeaway, buck Ey's got two quarterbacks that Ryan
Day thinks can win him the BigTen and get him back to the College
football Playoff. So again, whenyou hear that Ryan Day hasn't come to
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a conclusion over his quarterback situation.You think yourself, well, that's gonna
sort itself out. You feel prettygood about that. Does Eli Drinkwoods think
he's Ryan Day? Does Eli Drinkwoodsthinks he's Kirby Smart? Does he think
he's Nick Saban? See, partof me actually does wonder if Eli Drinkwoods
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thinks that he is in that echelon. The way that he talks badly about
programs, the way that he triedto sort of upstage Tennessee, the way
that we've seen him go after theUniversity of Kansas. Sure, maybe it's
albeit in like this fun sort ofjoking round Southern Mound and away, you
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know, just that's Eli. Yeah, that's Eli's way. Well, Eli's
way has resulted in three consecutive losingseasons at the helm of the Missouri football
program. So when he sits thereand says, we got nope, we
feel dug. We got an open, open competition. Quarterback, got an
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open competition. Why you've had threeyears to find a darn quarterback. And
by the way, you're not replacinga C. J. Stroud, You're
not replacing a Bryce Young, You'renot even replacing a stets in Bennett.
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You're trying to find somebody who cancompete with the guy who's been as close
to mediocre as you can possibly find, and by Brady Cook. So that
is my issue with how this wholeargument kind of doesn't necessarily compare with the
better programs around the nation. ButEli thinks that he does have a program
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that's comparable. Just ask him.You look, rog all great programs do
this. They start two courts.No they don't. They No, they
don't. And the great programs probablydo have two quarterbacks on their roster that
would easily upend either of the twoguys that you're having compete for a vuying
or for a starting job this year. And the season starts on August thirty
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first, which is a week fromThursday. And the disappointing fact about where
the Missouri football program sits right nowto me, it is just that they
have not been able to capture orgenerate any buzz. They had some buzz
in Eli's first year. He comesin and you feel pretty good. He's
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kind of a at least the mediaportrays him as his offensive guru. They
enjoy covering the team, they're recommittingto recruiting in Saint Louis. What happened.
The product is just gone way downhill, and he's never been able to
find a quarterback in three years.It's crazy to me. And yet you've
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had Dominic Lovett in Luther Burden,and yet you can't even find a guy
who's capable of throwing down field toeither one of those guys. Strange,
but he gets a two year contractextension. Danny Cavello the sidekick here,
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Dusty and Danny. This is onKyle Sports XM Channel eighty four. They
do a great job on their morningshow kind of following up here on how
a quarterback thinks when you're in thatbackup role or you haven't been, you
know, necessarily told that you're notgoing to be the starter. But how
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about when you're the incumbent starter andyou haven't necessarily been told that by the
way, you will be starting.Now, maybe they have been told behind
closed doors, but their coaches arejust not saying it publicly. It creates
for a little bit of an odddynamic. I guess I'm looking at it
from the player who was the backup, who was the guy that everybody expects
to win the job. Kyle McCord, I wonder if you're frustrated, like,
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hey, I'm doing everything I canand you got this guy nipping on
your heels, like right there pushingyou, you're probably like, man,
I wish they would just name methe starter. But to Ryan Day's credit
and the staff, they want tosee him do it under the lights,
like against real competition, because Ido think I've seen a lot of quarterback
battles play out and been in some. You know, you're in training camp
and they're tracking seven on seven stats, and that can be very deceiving guys,
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some guys lighted up or even inteam drills when you know everybody's full
except the quarterback. You don't gethit, you know they'll blow the ball
dead. You're protected, you're not, you know, not taking a lot
of hits, so you can kindof fool you know, the coaching staff
and everybody thinking, man, thisguy's a baller. But the minute you
get hit, it's like, oh, there's a different quarterback. So there's
probably some of the unknown of who'sgonna shine when everybody's live and everything's full
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speed. Yeah, and unfortunately forMissouri, you've seen what the product looks
like at full speed for Brady Cookis the worst in the country. No,
But is it a guy who's gonnamove the needle? No? And
in year four, when you haven'tproduced a winning record, isn't it time
to start to move the needle?Maybe? No, that's when you get
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it to your contract extension. Now, as we have covered multiple times,
the finite details of that contract buyoutis still the same. So if you're
doing this to give Eli a contractextension from recruiting standpoint, to try to
trick the kids into thinking, oh, he's gonna be here. You know,
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I love how the I love howthese athletic departments try to outsmart the
kids like they know something that theydon't. I mean, do you really
think that a kid, when hedecides to latch onto a program in today's
era of the trance reporter, reallygives a damn about the length of a
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coach's contract. Do you really thinkso? Do you really think that there
are any remaining kids left in thenation When the coach or the coordinators go
in and try to recruit a youngman and they're sitting there and they're selling
them on the idea that what you'rereally joining is a family. I think
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Nick Saban goes into it. Imean, what, No, the kids
aren't dumb. They might act andsound dumb, but they ain't dumb.
So here, by the way,if you wanted an update on maybe like
a quarterback position out of Tuscaloosa,where you know Alabama's gonna be very good
this year, I'm gonna tell youright now that team is going to be
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right back into conversation. I thinkwhat we've seen out of Alabama in the
last handful of years with a runningquarterback, I think some of that is
coming to a close. The tonguebelow the Jalen hurts the Bryce Young's.
I noticed last year that it feltlike to me Alabama had gotten away from
what they do best under Nick Saban, and that is absolutely win the line
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of scrimmage on both sides of thefootball and beat you up. I saw
Bryce Young take more hits as aquarterback last year, dancing around doing things,
and I thought to myself, man, he is some tough SLB.
He just kept getting up, gettingup. Go back and watch some of
the hits that that man took lastseason, and they were painful to watch
on television. But he just keptgetting up and maybe he'll that set him
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up well, because he's gonna getpummeled this year with a horrific Carolina Panthers
offensive line. I saw the NewYork Jets defense get after the Carolina Panthers
old line on the preseason first game, and then actually during their joint practice
and the Jets defensive lineman who's arookie or actually maybe it was the combination
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of that, they had counted liketen sacks. They were mocking the Carolina
offensive line during hard knocks. Soit's gonna be a long year, I
think for Bryce Young. But that'sbesides the point. Going back to Alabama,
I think you're gonna see a teamthat gets back to running the football,
that gets back to playing really gooddefense, hitting you hard, winning
the line of scrimmage. I mean, for the longest time, the quarterback
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for Alabama was largely kind of likehuh, yeah, those skills were aren't
going to translate to the NFL.But they knew how to manage a game,
and Nick Saban such a good coach, and the defense was so good,
and they always had elite running backsand not just one, they had
multiple to where they just dominated youat the line of scrimmage. This was
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Nick Saban. I think at theend of last week he's got the Bill
Belichick personality going on here when hewas asked about what he says out of
his quarterback room as they try tolook for the replacement for Bryce Young.
They all got to play. Theyall took snaps, they all completed some
passes, they all make some throwsthat weren't as good as they should have
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been, and they all got sacked. That's what I saw. So basically,
they all woke up and got outof bed this morning. They brushed
their teeth, they had they hada protein rich breakfast. They showed up
to the facility and they played andthey all threw, and then they finished.
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They did their duties. They gottheir postgame work in, and then
they went home. They studied fora bit, and they went to bed,
and they woke up all over againand did it again the next day.
Saving I like, I enjoyed thedry reality of trying to give the
reporters what they really want in depthknowledge. There, let's hear that one.
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They all got to play, theyall took snaps, they all completed
some passes, they all made somethrows that weren't as good as they should
have been, and they all gotsacked. That's what I saw, all
right. So there was there wasNick saving tongue in cheek talking about his
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Alabama quarterback situation. But that's thereality of it for Missouri is that they
can talk a big game like they'vegot some quarterback competition going on. But
I thought that first clip from Divorceekwas really telling. It's coach manufactured quarterback
controversy. It's can some will thereal slim shady please stand up? Will
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anybody stand up in this room?Will somebody grab it? It's sort of
like what you heard out of springtraining with the Cardinals outfield situation. We've
got we've got an outfield conundrum.Well, no, you just have enough
guys that won't literally win a job. That's what you have. You have
a bunch of mediocre players that haveall proven at one point they can hit
a ball a long way, buthave never truly proven over one hundred and
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sixty two games that they deserve tobe a starting outfielder in the big leagues.
You've got plenty of guys that probablylook good and practice seven on seven
can throw the ball around. Recruitwell did nice things at shamanad sec quarterbacks
material that I don't know that Idon't know. By the way, we
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are the home for Illinois football,and Illinois named a starting quarterback. Here's
another like, for example, howdoes Bret Bielema go out there? You
want to talk about a quarterback situation? Illinois, they had a they had
a competition between three guys. Youhad John Paddock, who was a transfer
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who played last season at ball State, and you had a redshirt freshman,
Donovan Leary. But both of thoseguys have lost out to Luke Altmeyer.
And you asked, well, who'sLuke Altmeyer. Luke Altmeyer transferred Illinois in
January from Old Miss, where hespent two seasons. Now he was behind
the kid at Old Miss, whosename is Miss I'm forgetting. Reminds me
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a lot of Zach Wilson, allabout the swag more inclined to make sure
that his little doo rag looks goodas opposed to and the throwing sleeve on
his arm is all up to par. But as far as plane not really
sure. Now, I shouldn't saythat the Old Mess quarterback had some that
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man had some cajones on him.But Luke Altmier, he comes over from
all Miss. Well, what Imean was was Missouri? Even did he
like pick up the phone and say, hey, Luke, we got an
SEC starting quarterback position over here andyou can throw to Oh, I'm Luther
Burton, you can play in thesecat Nope, So Luke Altmeyer's named the
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starter for Illinois. Brett Bielma tellingreporters on Monday, I've been very impressed
out by Luke, not just byLuke's play on the field, but how
he's handled things to walk into thisenvironment, to have a lot of people
from the outside world thinks he's goingto be that guy to stand in front
of his team and give cadence asa quarterback to speak in the huddle,
but also on the sideline in thelocker room. He's done a nice job
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of balancing all that limited action lastyear three hundred and seventeen yards through the
air, three touchdowns, three picksat all Miss where he competed for the
starting job and he lost out.It was Jackson Dart. But to be
quite honest with you, you knowa guy in Altmeyer, like who do
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you trust more? Do you trustall. Do you trust Lane Kiffing at
Old miss to go find a guywho can play quarterback, which he did
in Jackson Dart, who was aUSC transfer. Or do you trust a
guy in Eli Drinkwitz to somehow figureout how to like pick the best guy
between Sam Horne and Brady Cook.Again, the problem to me, this
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is not a This is not aindictment on Sam Horn or Brady Cook.
They are who they are. Thisis a true indictment on Eli drink WIT's
not being able to find a competentwinning quarterback in his fourth year at Missouri.
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And then you're not even in theconversation to try to bring a guy
like Luke Luke Altmeyer, who wasgood enough for Lane Kiffin to bring into
Old miss Nope, not for Eli. See I'm telling you Eli overvaluates his
own guy. That is a problem. Eli a part of Illinois, which
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coming off their first winning season sincetwenty eleven, against something that Eli drink
which has not accomplished. They starton September twenty September two. Rather they've
got Toledo at home, and thenthey will go play Ku on September eighth.
So Ku and Illinois kind of fascinatingthere. All right, one last
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bit audio here and going back toDusty and Danny. This is on the
Jim Harbaugh situation out of Michigan.Reminder, Jim Harbaugh's lawyers, University of
Michigan lawyers, and the ncuba Alawyers all came to a conclusion that Jim
Harball would be suspended for the firstfour games of the season. Slap on
the wrist. They're not playing anybody, no big deal. Then it got
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to the president's desk of the ncDoubalea, and he goes, yeah,
yeah, not good enough. Likethe president of the uble A, three
years into an investigation, just wantedto make sure that everybody knew that he
was still in charge. It's it'sridiculous, this is it's a mess.
Four games seems excessive, but whenyou when your attorneys agree on terms and
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then it just has to be signedfor approval, and the new president of
the nc double A who has tosign off, basically says no, no,
no, no, no, that'snot good enough. It's it's almost
like he's using this to remind everybody, Hey, we were still got some
we still got some teeth, werestill alive. We can still dole out
punishment. I think from Michigan sideof things, they probably feel we negotiated
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this four games was fair. Youguys are being excessive. We're gonna go
ahead and self imposed three and hopefullyit'll go a long way in the future.
Let's say if this goes to evenmaybe a third party, right.
You know what's so crazy if youwere to do a straw poll of college
football fans cross nation, maybe outsideof Columbus or we're you know, Ohio
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State because it's a rival. Butif you were to just take a straw
pull of most college football fans andsay, what's your opinion of this ongoing
situation regarding Jim Harball, They'd allgo, what which one? Oh?
You mean like from twenty twenty wherehe did something with a cheeseburger and recruited
in the dead period, we're stilltalking about that. Yes, the n
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Cuba can't get over that. Thesethey've moved slower than the government in terms
of moving through the red tape,which is continues to be one of my
biggest complaints about the NABLA. Whatare we waiting on? Why would we
take this into twenty twenty four?This happened in twenty twenty, Like,
what are we doing? I don'tunderstand, Like the prolonging of punishment.
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This has been something that we've allcomplained about forever. So you know,
will the NC doable acknowledge this andwill they give them some credit? I
guess we'll see. But I thinkMichigan is saying, Hey, the first
three games of the season, we'regonna win easily. Let's just get some
of this punishment out of the way, and let's see maybe this maybe there's
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a chance that this will be theonly punishment Serve. Yeah, well,
I don't know if that's going tobe the case. It probably should be,
but you know how the NC doubleA likes to shine their ugly head.
Yeah, three games self imposed notgood enough. Will they suspend him
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additionally this year or would they dothat next year outside of the additional game
and make it into Week two wherethe Wolverines host USC and Steve are part
of me Steve Sarkisian in the TexasLonghorns, the SEC Texas Longhorns. Very
interesting. All right, that's gonnado it. For a Tuesday edition of
The Verdict, see how the Cardinalsfair try to bounce back from an ass
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whooping last night against the pitch Berghiringts. Have a great rest of your
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Now more of the verdict with NateLucas. You look like a wedge Way.
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You say you've better Wedgeway, Youdo me, you can do all
right. Welcome back, verdict takingme up till three pm today. Eli
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drink Witch told reporters earlier this weekthat he wants to see how Brady Cook
and Sam Horne both do during gameaction in the first couple of contents before
selecting a starter for the season.So, Horn, who was a highly
rated recruit coming out of high schoolbut was red shirted last season, and
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according to some folks who are prettyclose with the program, didn't exactly sound
like Horn was ultra motivated in practiceto try to unseat Brady Cook as the
starter. So you can draw yourown conclusions from some of that rhetoric,
but you know, for a teamthat's looking for competition, if you've got
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a highly rated recruit and he's notbusting his ass in practice to try to
essentially get the starting job, youknow, I don't know how I feel
about that, but the reality isis I think that was the belief of
the coaching staff and the belief aroundthe program. So Brady Cook remained the
starter last season, he completed sixtyfive percent of his passes twenty four hundred
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yards, fourteen touchdown, seven interceptions, And people will always be quick to
point out, you know, wellCook made some nice throws. I mean
Cook, well he let some nicedrives. If you don't have an elite
player at quarterback in college football,I mean to me, you don't.
You really just don't have a wholelot of buzz around your program or your
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team. And as I've been sayingnow, for what feels like since Eli
Drinkwood's got here, you know thisis year four, his quarterbacks have just
been largely blocked. I mean,you just you haven't done enough. In
an era of college football where itis so so imperative to have a star
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quarterback. You haven't even been ableto bring one in via recruit and you
haven't been able to find one onthe transfer portal or whatever it takes.
And this is the guy who issupposedly the offensive genius that just got a
contract extension last year. And I'mnot trying to be mean to Brady Cook,
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but everyone knows if you watch thegames, it's very evident that the
offense basically can't do a whole lotdownfield because Brady Cook can't do a whole
lot downfield. The offense is atits best when Brady Cook tucks the ball
and runs, and he's shifty.He's an athlete, no doubt about it.
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Maybe you could find a way tobuild in some packages for Brady Cook,
but if you had an elite quarterback, maybe you wouldn't have to rely
on Brady Cook to get that done. So when you host the South Dakota
Coyotes on August thirty, first,don't be shocked if you see both Brady
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Cook and Sam Horne during game action. Now the likely starter. I mean,
come on, if you don't thinkthat Brady Cook is gonna be starting
the game against South Dakota, Iwould place a hefty wager on that.
But if he comes out, I'msure he'll lead some drives. You're going
up against a team that's been verygood in the lower division of Division one.
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But he'll come out, he'll putup some nice scoring drives and then
they'll get Sam Horn into the game, likely at some point in the second
half, and then they'll evaluate things. And as I said in the open,
if this were a competition, saywhere Ryan Days the head coach at
Ohio State or in Georgia where you'vegot an ongoing quarterback battle trying to replace
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Stetson Bennett, or an ongoing quarterbackbattle out of Alabama where they're trying to
replace the first overall pick in thedraft price Young. If it's in one
of those three situations, you thinkto yourself, well, they're gonna be
good enough across the board that itprobably you know, they can grow with
a few weeks before you get intothe gauntlet of you they're an SEC or
a big ten schedule, you'll beable to sort of grow with the quarterback
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as they take command of the position. You also feel pretty good that the
player that they're growing into that positionis either a highly recruited, highly touted
recruit, much more highly recruited thansay like a Sam Horne, or this
is a guy in the transfer portalthat should be able to put up big
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numbers. In the case of Missouri, you don't really feel that great about
either. And that's why when Ihear Eli Drinkwitz make comments about how well
both guys are competing in camp,to me, that is manufactured coach speak.
That's not if this were a truequarterback competition, and you had guys
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who were really competing for that numberone job, and man, both are
just right there, and you feelreally good about how they can either one
of them can elevate your offense.If this was a Jalen Hurts versus two,
a tugalavaloa quarterback controversy, then you'dsit there and go, Okay,
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I get it. You know,I'm on all four four. I'm all
for a quarterback competition. Competition shouldbring the best out of the best.
When you're talking about a competition betweenSam Horne and Brady Cook, doesn't quite
do it. Doesn't quite do itfor me. So I wanted to play
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a couple of soundbites on quarterback competitions. This is Dusty and Danny. This
is Danny Dvorcek, who played atOklahoma on a morning program this morning,
talking about how quarterback competition in general. If you were to just talk about
quarterback competition, yeah, okay,that's a thing quarterback competition where it is
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manufactured coach speak that isn't exactly howyou want to draw it up, particularly
if you are entering your fourth seasonat the helm of the Missouri Tiger's football
program. I'm one that says you'dalways rather have one and you'd rather just
work itself out to where it wasobvious to everybody, right that everyone knows
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coaches players. Oh that's the dude. I think in this situation they have
two dudes. So tell me ifyou disagree with that. I don't think
that's a matter of neither one ofthese guys can play like I don't think
he's lying when he says they bothgrade it out at a championship level.
I don't just say that if you'vegot two quarterbacks that aren't capable and aren't
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doing good things when they're taking thefield. So if you have a healthy
quarterback competition that's legit and not likegenerated by the staff, I think that's
great because then you really do getthose guys best and they know. It's
almost like, in a way,a game, because you're you're competing now
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instead of an opponent, you're competingfor this job, and at some point
it'll settle. But my biggest takeaway, buck Ey's got two quarterbacks that Ryan
Day thinks can win him the BigTen and get him back to the College
football Playoff. So again, whenyou hear that Ryan Day hasn't come to
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a conclusion over his quarterback situation.You think yourself, well, that's gonna
sort itself out. You feel prettygood about that. Does Eli Drinkwoods think
he's Ryan Day? Does Eli Drinkwoodsthinks he's Kirby Smart? Does he think
he's Nick Saban? See, partof me actually does wonder if Eli Drinkwoods
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thinks that he is in that echelon. The way that he talks badly about
programs, the way that he triedto sort of upstage Tennessee, the way
that we've seen him go after theUniversity of Kansas. Sure, maybe it's
albeit in like this fun sort ofjoking round Southern Mound and away, you
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know, just that's Eli. Yeah, that's Eli's way. Well, Eli's
way has resulted in three consecutive losingseasons at the helm of the Missouri football
program. So when he sits thereand says, we got nope, we
feel dug. We got an open, open competition. Quarterback, got an
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open competition. Why you've had threeyears to find a darn quarterback. And
by the way, you're not replacinga C. J. Stroud, You're
not replacing a Bryce Young, You'renot even replacing a stets in Bennett.
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You're trying to find somebody who cancompete with the guy who's been as close
to mediocre as you can possibly find, and by Brady Cook. So that
is my issue with how this wholeargument kind of doesn't necessarily compare with the
better programs around the nation. ButEli thinks that he does have a program
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that's comparable. Just ask him.You look, rog all great programs do
this. They start two courts.No they don't. They No, they
don't. And the great programs probablydo have two quarterbacks on their roster that
would easily upend either of the twoguys that you're having compete for a vuying
or for a starting job this year. And the season starts on August thirty
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first, which is a week fromThursday. And the disappointing fact about where
the Missouri football program sits right nowto me, it is just that they
have not been able to capture orgenerate any buzz. They had some buzz
in Eli's first year. He comesin and you feel pretty good. He's
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kind of a at least the mediaportrays him as his offensive guru. They
enjoy covering the team, they're recommittingto recruiting in Saint Louis. What happened.
The product is just gone way downhill, and he's never been able to
find a quarterback in three years.It's crazy to me. And yet you've
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had Dominic Lovett in Luther Burden,and yet you can't even find a guy
who's capable of throwing down field toeither one of those guys. Strange,
but he gets a two year contractextension. Danny Cavello the sidekick here,
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Dusty and Danny. This is onKyle Sports XM Channel eighty four. They
do a great job on their morningshow kind of following up here on how
a quarterback thinks when you're in thatbackup role or you haven't been, you
know, necessarily told that you're notgoing to be the starter. But how
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about when you're the incumbent starter andyou haven't necessarily been told that by the
way, you will be starting.Now, maybe they have been told behind
closed doors, but their coaches arejust not saying it publicly. It creates
for a little bit of an odddynamic. I guess I'm looking at it
from the player who was the backup, who was the guy that everybody expects
to win the job. Kyle McCord, I wonder if you're frustrated, like,
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hey, I'm doing everything I canand you got this guy nipping on
your heels, like right there pushingyou, you're probably like, man,
I wish they would just name methe starter. But to Ryan Day's credit
and the staff, they want tosee him do it under the lights,
like against real competition, because Ido think I've seen a lot of quarterback
battles play out and been in some. You know, you're in training camp
and they're tracking seven on seven stats, and that can be very deceiving guys,
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some guys lighted up or even inteam drills when you know everybody's full
except the quarterback. You don't gethit, you know they'll blow the ball
dead. You're protected, you're not, you know, not taking a lot
of hits, so you can kindof fool you know, the coaching staff
and everybody thinking, man, thisguy's a baller. But the minute you
get hit, it's like, oh, there's a different quarterback. So there's
probably some of the unknown of who'sgonna shine when everybody's live and everything's full
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speed. Yeah, and unfortunately forMissouri, you've seen what the product looks
like at full speed for Brady Cookis the worst in the country. No,
But is it a guy who's gonnamove the needle? No? And
in year four, when you haven'tproduced a winning record, isn't it time
to start to move the needle?Maybe? No, that's when you get
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it to your contract extension. Now, as we have covered multiple times,
the finite details of that contract buyoutis still the same. So if you're
doing this to give Eli a contractextension from recruiting standpoint, to try to
trick the kids into thinking, oh, he's gonna be here. You know,
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I love how the I love howthese athletic departments try to outsmart the
kids like they know something that theydon't. I mean, do you really
think that a kid, when hedecides to latch onto a program in today's
era of the trance reporter, reallygives a damn about the length of a
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coach's contract. Do you really thinkso? Do you really think that there
are any remaining kids left in thenation When the coach or the coordinators go
in and try to recruit a youngman and they're sitting there and they're selling
them on the idea that what you'rereally joining is a family. I think
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Nick Saban goes into it. Imean, what, No, the kids
aren't dumb. They might act andsound dumb, but they ain't dumb.
So here, by the way,if you wanted an update on maybe like
a quarterback position out of Tuscaloosa,where you know Alabama's gonna be very good
this year, I'm gonna tell youright now that team is going to be
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right back into conversation. I thinkwhat we've seen out of Alabama in the
last handful of years with a runningquarterback, I think some of that is
coming to a close. The tonguebelow the Jalen hurts the Bryce Young's.
I noticed last year that it feltlike to me Alabama had gotten away from
what they do best under Nick Saban, and that is absolutely win the line
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of scrimmage on both sides of thefootball and beat you up. I saw
Bryce Young take more hits as aquarterback last year, dancing around doing things,
and I thought to myself, man, he is some tough SLB.
He just kept getting up, gettingup. Go back and watch some of
the hits that that man took lastseason, and they were painful to watch
on television. But he just keptgetting up and maybe he'll that set him
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up well, because he's gonna getpummeled this year with a horrific Carolina Panthers
offensive line. I saw the NewYork Jets defense get after the Carolina Panthers
old line on the preseason first game, and then actually during their joint practice
and the Jets defensive lineman who's arookie or actually maybe it was the combination
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of that, they had counted liketen sacks. They were mocking the Carolina
offensive line during hard knocks. Soit's gonna be a long year, I
think for Bryce Young. But that'sbesides the point. Going back to Alabama,
I think you're gonna see a teamthat gets back to running the football,
that gets back to playing really gooddefense, hitting you hard, winning
the line of scrimmage. I mean, for the longest time, the quarterback
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for Alabama was largely kind of likehuh, yeah, those skills were aren't
going to translate to the NFL.But they knew how to manage a game,
and Nick Saban such a good coach, and the defense was so good,
and they always had elite running backsand not just one, they had
multiple to where they just dominated youat the line of scrimmage. This was
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Nick Saban. I think at theend of last week he's got the Bill
Belichick personality going on here when hewas asked about what he says out of
his quarterback room as they try tolook for the replacement for Bryce Young.
They all got to play. Theyall took snaps, they all completed some
passes, they all make some throwsthat weren't as good as they should have
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been, and they all got sacked. That's what I saw. So basically,
they all woke up and got outof bed this morning. They brushed
their teeth, they had they hada protein rich breakfast. They showed up
to the facility and they played andthey all threw, and then they finished.
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They did their duties. They gottheir postgame work in, and then
they went home. They studied fora bit, and they went to bed,
and they woke up all over againand did it again the next day.
Saving I like, I enjoyed thedry reality of trying to give the
reporters what they really want in depthknowledge. There, let's hear that one.
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They all got to play, theyall took snaps, they all completed
some passes, they all made somethrows that weren't as good as they should
have been, and they all gotsacked. That's what I saw, all
right. So there was there wasNick saving tongue in cheek talking about his
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Alabama quarterback situation. But that's thereality of it for Missouri is that they
can talk a big game like they'vegot some quarterback competition going on. But
I thought that first clip from Divorceekwas really telling. It's coach manufactured quarterback
controversy. It's can some will thereal slim shady please stand up? Will
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anybody stand up in this room?Will somebody grab it? It's sort of
like what you heard out of springtraining with the Cardinals outfield situation. We've
got we've got an outfield conundrum.Well, no, you just have enough
guys that won't literally win a job. That's what you have. You have
a bunch of mediocre players that haveall proven at one point they can hit
a ball a long way, buthave never truly proven over one hundred and
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sixty two games that they deserve tobe a starting outfielder in the big leagues.
You've got plenty of guys that probablylook good and practice seven on seven
can throw the ball around. Recruitwell did nice things at shamanad sec quarterbacks
material that I don't know that Idon't know. By the way, we
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are the home for Illinois football,and Illinois named a starting quarterback. Here's
another like, for example, howdoes Bret Bielema go out there? You
want to talk about a quarterback situation? Illinois, they had a they had
a competition between three guys. Youhad John Paddock, who was a transfer
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who played last season at ball State, and you had a redshirt freshman,
Donovan Leary. But both of thoseguys have lost out to Luke Altmeyer.
And you asked, well, who'sLuke Altmeyer. Luke Altmeyer transferred Illinois in
January from Old Miss, where hespent two seasons. Now he was behind
the kid at Old Miss, whosename is Miss I'm forgetting. Reminds me
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a lot of Zach Wilson, allabout the swag more inclined to make sure
that his little doo rag looks goodas opposed to and the throwing sleeve on
his arm is all up to par. But as far as plane not really
sure. Now, I shouldn't saythat the Old Mess quarterback had some that
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man had some cajones on him.But Luke Altmier, he comes over from
all Miss. Well, what Imean was was Missouri? Even did he
like pick up the phone and say, hey, Luke, we got an
SEC starting quarterback position over here andyou can throw to Oh, I'm Luther
Burton, you can play in thesecat Nope, So Luke Altmeyer's named the
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starter for Illinois. Brett Bielma tellingreporters on Monday, I've been very impressed
out by Luke, not just byLuke's play on the field, but how
he's handled things to walk into thisenvironment, to have a lot of people
from the outside world thinks he's goingto be that guy to stand in front
of his team and give cadence asa quarterback to speak in the huddle,
but also on the sideline in thelocker room. He's done a nice job
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of balancing all that limited action lastyear three hundred and seventeen yards through the
air, three touchdowns, three picksat all Miss where he competed for the
starting job and he lost out.It was Jackson Dart. But to be
quite honest with you, you knowa guy in Altmeyer, like who do
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you trust more? Do you trustall. Do you trust Lane Kiffing at
Old miss to go find a guywho can play quarterback, which he did
in Jackson Dart, who was aUSC transfer. Or do you trust a
guy in Eli Drinkwitz to somehow figureout how to like pick the best guy
between Sam Horne and Brady Cook.Again, the problem to me, this
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is not a This is not aindictment on Sam Horn or Brady Cook.
They are who they are. Thisis a true indictment on Eli drink WIT's
not being able to find a competentwinning quarterback in his fourth year at Missouri.
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And then you're not even in theconversation to try to bring a guy
like Luke Luke Altmeyer, who wasgood enough for Lane Kiffin to bring into
Old miss Nope, not for Eli. See I'm telling you Eli overvaluates his
own guy. That is a problem. Eli a part of Illinois, which
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coming off their first winning season sincetwenty eleven, against something that Eli drink
which has not accomplished. They starton September twenty September two. Rather they've
got Toledo at home, and thenthey will go play Ku on September eighth.
So Ku and Illinois kind of fascinatingthere. All right, one last
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bit audio here and going back toDusty and Danny. This is on the
Jim Harbaugh situation out of Michigan.Reminder, Jim Harbaugh's lawyers, University of
Michigan lawyers, and the ncuba Alawyers all came to a conclusion that Jim
Harball would be suspended for the firstfour games of the season. Slap on
the wrist. They're not playing anybody, no big deal. Then it got
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to the president's desk of the ncDoubalea, and he goes, yeah,
yeah, not good enough. Likethe president of the uble A, three
years into an investigation, just wantedto make sure that everybody knew that he
was still in charge. It's it'sridiculous, this is it's a mess.
Four games seems excessive, but whenyou when your attorneys agree on terms and
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then it just has to be signedfor approval, and the new president of
the nc double A who has tosign off, basically says no, no,
no, no, no, that'snot good enough. It's it's almost
like he's using this to remind everybody, Hey, we were still got some
we still got some teeth, werestill alive. We can still dole out
punishment. I think from Michigan sideof things, they probably feel we negotiated
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this four games was fair. Youguys are being excessive. We're gonna go
ahead and self imposed three and hopefullyit'll go a long way in the future.
Let's say if this goes to evenmaybe a third party, right.
You know what's so crazy if youwere to do a straw poll of college
football fans cross nation, maybe outsideof Columbus or we're you know, Ohio
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State because it's a rival. Butif you were to just take a straw
pull of most college football fans andsay, what's your opinion of this ongoing
situation regarding Jim Harball, They'd allgo, what which one? Oh?
You mean like from twenty twenty wherehe did something with a cheeseburger and recruited
in the dead period, we're stilltalking about that. Yes, the n
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Cuba can't get over that. Thesethey've moved slower than the government in terms
of moving through the red tape,which is continues to be one of my
biggest complaints about the NABLA. Whatare we waiting on? Why would we
take this into twenty twenty four?This happened in twenty twenty, Like,
what are we doing? I don'tunderstand, Like the prolonging of punishment.
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This has been something that we've allcomplained about forever. So you know,
will the NC doable acknowledge this andwill they give them some credit? I
guess we'll see. But I thinkMichigan is saying, Hey, the first
three games of the season, we'regonna win easily. Let's just get some
of this punishment out of the way, and let's see maybe this maybe there's
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a chance that this will be theonly punishment Serve. Yeah, well,
I don't know if that's going tobe the case. It probably should be,
but you know how the NC doubleA likes to shine their ugly head.
Yeah, three games self imposed notgood enough. Will they suspend him
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additionally this year or would they dothat next year outside of the additional game
and make it into Week two wherethe Wolverines host USC and Steve are part
of me Steve Sarkisian in the TexasLonghorns, the SEC Texas Longhorns. Very
interesting. All right, that's gonnado it. For a Tuesday edition of
The Verdict, see how the Cardinalsfair try to bounce back from an ass
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whooping last night against the pitch Berghiringts. Have a great rest of your
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