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Show with Jim Here Dave Solomon comingup after three pm. Marcus side l
two point zero Training Systems in WebsterGroves. Kind enough to hop in studio
with us? How are sure?I am lovely as ever? Could you
see you as well? Nice tosee in person. I guess we did
it on the phone for a longtime. We did it on the phone.
It's so much more fun when I'mhere. It is, you know,
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you inspire. Actually I was inspiredtoday because I've frequently asked you.
You know, when you get intoa routine of just going to the gym
every day and it doesn't even it'slike clockwork, it's like brushing your teeth,
It's just part of what you dotoday. It was one of those
days where it was nice to kindof sleep in. I hit snooze a
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few times too. The rain,it was very easy to just sit there
and not do a damn thing untileight thirty am or something like that.
Right, drag my butt to thegym. I get there and I'm still
like, you know, my legsare a little more or whatever. And
I'm walking in and there was alady who clearly had MS, and she
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had the things attached to her arms, you know, so she could keep
her balance. I see her leavingthe gym and getting into her car,
you know, right there by theentrance. And I thought to myself,
I'll tell you what, if shecan figure out a way, and she
was. She was up. Shewas up there, you know, I'd
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say she was at least sixty plus. I said, damn it. If
she can do this, if shecan make her way to the gym and
all of that, just walking fromthe door to her car with those things,
I said, I am not goingto complain about a damn thing today.
My legs no longer hurt. I'mgetting on that treadmill. I'm running
two miles and I'm gonna go workout my leg and I'm not going to
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complain at all about any pain Ihave in my life, so I found
it to be very inspiring. Ithink people like that are the most inspiring
people by far in my opinion.I've never been inspired by bodybuilders and like
fitness enthusiasts and fitness influencers of anykind, not even maybe when I was
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younger, I was maybe inspired bylike professional athletes obviously, and I guess
to a degree I still am.But those are the those types of people
who have been dealt the worst,the worst cards, that still overcome it
and still do it are the mostinspiring people ever. And it does it
kind of puts into perspective like Ireally have no excuse, and when I
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say I don't mean me, Imean everyone, Like, there really is
no excuse not to do this stuff. It's just hard to make it a
habit to do it. But onceyou make a habit of doing it,
like, you just do it.And there's people who have way worse circumstances
than you that are doing it.So if they can do it, you
gotta do it. Are my mutualfriend, your client, Dominic Trippy,
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our buddy who's been in studio forthis segment a handful of times. You
know, his stepfather just passed awaytoday after dealing with about of pancreatic cancer.
Right, And somebody the other daysaid, well, you seem to
be in a good mood today,and I said, well, you know
what, I've got my health,right, you know you can you can
find just about any reason on earth. Hell, I just did for the
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last fifteen minutes reminiscing of the peopleattacking Aaron Rodgers for not getting the COVID
shot like that kind of that pissesme off. So there's my ten minutes
of rage that I'll try to limittoday. But honestly, when you've got
your health, you look at allthe outside bs that you're hit with like
a bug on a windshield every day, and you just go, well,
all right, how am I gonnaroll with this one? What are we
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gonna do today to make it abetter day than yesterday? And just keep
moving forward? Mindset that I thinka lot of times individuals, when they
have a tough day or whatever,they can get so soured by it.
Yep, yeah, I think ofit like, have you ever had really
any kind of sickness? Like forme, I always I think I used
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to get ear infections a lot stillfor as an adult more frequently than a
typical adult. I get ear infectionsabout once a year. Now. When
I was a kid, it wouldhappen more frequently than that. And it's
the most miserable thing in the entireworld. And when you're in that like
state of just complete misery, youthink to yourself, like, God,
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I'll never take for granted not feelinglike this ever again, Like I can't
wait to be able to wake upand not be in any pain and just
feel normal again. And when youfinally do for the first time, it's
like a really incredible feeling. Andso, I mean, when you're when
you're in some of these situations whereyou're just like basically self imposing a bunch
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of like negativity and excuses and whatever, I try to think back to those
moments when it's like, Dude,I've been in situations that are ten times
worse than this, and I've toldmyself I would never take that for granted
again. And now I'm in asituation where nothing is actually wrong, and
now I'm just creating things to complainabout, Like I can't. You can't
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let yourself do that. It's areally easy thing to do, but you
can't let yourself do it. Thiswas a quote that my former boss sent
me, actually two days ago.He goes the longer I live, the
more I realize the importance of attitudeon life. Attitude to me is more
important than facts. It is moreimportant than the past, than education,
than money, than circumstances, thanfailures, than success or what other people
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say or do. It's more importantthan appearance, giftedness or skill. It
will make or break a company,a church at home. The remarkable thing
is we have a choice every dayregarding the attitude we embrace that day.
We cannot change our past. Wecannot change the fact that people will act
a certain way. We cannot changethe inevitable. The only thing we can
do is play on the one stringwe have, and that is attitude.
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I am convinced that life is tenpercent what happens to me and ninety percent
how I react to it. Andso it is with you. We are
in charge of our attitudes. Isn'tthat a great quote? It's fantastic.
It just comes down to like whatyou can and can't control, Like,
if you just control the things thatyou can control, life is going to
be as good as it's going tobe doesn't mean that it's always going to
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be great, because sometimes things thatare completely out of your control are going
to happen that aren't that aren't fun. But if you control the things that
you can control, and you're inthis case, your attitude is one of
them, it's going to be asgood as it can possibly be. What
percentage of your clients leave two pointzero training system after a session in a
worse mood than when they showed up. I can't imagine any I'm gonna say
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they might leave, you know,yeah, yeah, like satirically exhausted,
and they might be all mad atme satirically, but no, yeah,
they leave, I would I wouldestimate that they all leave in a much
better mood. For sure. Itjust clears your mind, right, it
does. It's a sense of accomplishment, Like even if it's even if it's
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something that you've been able to dobefore and it's not anything new, you
still like accomplished something that was youknow, out of your comfort zone and
and that's you know, that's onethat's one way to definitely improve the positivity
of your attitude. You are astrong proponent of the impact that a daily
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walk can have on your life,and in particular walks outside, which Cole
has adopted almost what twice a day? What do you do twice a day?
I'm here for eight hours a day. I don't know that much.
Well that's true, but you're fiveminutes. We let you outside of the
cage when I can. The hotterthe better, I'm more motivated than the
old walk when it's one hundred degreesout now. Today obviously not a great
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day. We had some some cloudcoverage and some rains, so there's not
gonna be a walk day. Butyeah, I like to when I can.
Yeah, for sure the rain isgonna deter you. Uh, yeah,
you know what's weird? I actuallywill sometimes have the opposite mindset when
it's like raining or it's snowing,or it's colder than you know what outside.
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Yeah I almost weren't with us,interesting word. But when it's like
terrible elements, I will just gooutside and go on a run. Yep.
And it's like me competing against theearth. Well when you know that,
what's that competition? Tough mutter oryeah, I'm like, you know
what, let's go, let's goget absolutely drenched, let me be freezing
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cold. Put me in elements thatI am destined to not like and force
my brain to change that attitude.I honestly couldn't agree more with both of
you, really, but there andthere are times when so I disagree with
the hot thing. I'd rather theopposite. I'd prefer it if it's freezing
cold over super hot. But I'mgonna do it. I do it either
way. I just hate hot.I want to sweat. Yeah, and
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that's totally fair. I'm probably theweird one in this equation for sure.
I hate sweating unless I'm working out. If I'm like just in here sitting
and I start sweating, I'm gonnabe like fidgeting and I'm like, oh,
man, Like I'm we got peoplearound here, Let's just me and
myself and I and while I'm workingout, crank up the heat, burn
burn more calories and make the mostof it. Have you ever seen so
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m Jansen sits in your seat andthe warning cam former NHL player in you
know, good shape, But atthe end of a show, if he's
wearing a wrong shirt granted three ourshow, that man will walk out and
it looks like he has just jumpedout of a swimming pool. I mean,
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he's under arms. It's unbelievable.Yeah, I sweat a lot too.
Why is why do some people sweatmore than others? And why in
particular, if you're doing like agluts and legs day, does that make
you just sweat so? I mean, I'm just drenched. I don't know
why people some people sweat more thanothers. To be honest with you,
I have no idea. I cananswer the second part of the question if
you're training like legs and gluts becauseyou're you're you're just training a higher threshold
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of the muscle fibers. You're justyou're burning more calories. When you're training
bigger muscle groups like that. That'sI mean, that's like half your body
if you think about it. Whereaswe typically break up our upper body workouts
into segments, you know, ifyou're doing arms, that's obviously not nearly
as much you know, total mass. That's actually like moving and contracting and
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stretching and stuff, as as yourentire lower body. But I don't know
why people swept more than others.I do too. My underarms sweat like
crazy. It's it's I have noidea. Why can you burn more calories
by screaming on the radio instead oftalking. Yeah, probably probably starting more
energy. Yeah, I would say, so, Well, then hey,
Cam's got a workout end in themorning. I used to know. It's
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so funny a lot. Yeah,just very bombastic personality. Always creates sound
effects for every story that happens thatand then then scraped my car like or
whatever. It's very high energy.All right, yeah, great, Cam
Jansen. It is a funny,you know, having broadcast games before.
You know, I've got this littledevice that monitors everywhere I go and basically
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as a chip in me. Isuppose this Apple Watch. But after like
calling a game, I'll notice it'llburn like three hundred calories. Oh yeah,
I believe it. Yeah, Imean, yeah, you're burning calories
twenty four hours a day, youknow, like even when you're sleeping,
you're burning calories. I remember therewas one time I had a client who
she was underweight. This was along time ago, this is like a
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decade ago. She was underweight,and she hired me for the purposes of
gaining weight. Not even not evenlike to compete or you know, be
a bodybuilder of any kind. Shejust wanted to gain weight. Arbitrarily,
which is very rare, maybe theonly client I've ever had that was like
that. And she needed to Shewas very underweight, Like I'm gonna I
don't remember her height, let's justsay five three. She probably weighed ninety
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pounds, and she ate a lot, like she just had a psychotic metabolism,
And what was the point I wasgonna make here? Just lost my
train of thought. She was underwating. She needed to add Oh, that's
what it was. So she hada family friend who was like I think
he was a chiropractor that had toldher he did not want her exercising at
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all. He said, do notexercise. He was like, if you're
actually I don't want you burning anycalories. And I was like, okay.
First of all, that's really stupid, Like one of the best ways
and the most important way for youto quote unquote gain weight is to build
muscle, and the only way youcan build muscle is via exercise. The
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second component of that that's extra stupidis that you can't avoid burning calories.
Blinking your eyes burns calories, Likeevery single being alive burns calories. That's
literally how you survive is the actof burning calories. Now I under would
I tell her to go outside andrun five miles a day, No,
of course not. That would bevery stupid. But burning calories is happening
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twenty four hours a day. Youjust burn a higher threshold of calories while
you're exercising. However, if you'reexercising for the purposes of gaining weight,
you know, and you're eating ina calorie surplus, then the only thing
that's going to happen is you're gonnabuild muscle, which, again, building
muscle equates to more weight. Sothis, uh, this was a doctor.
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Yeah, measine, a doctor lookingyou square in the eye and saying,
don't extra spt. Maybe that's whyevery single doctor and a man and
I shouldn't say every single doctor,but a lot of Americans in America,
doctors in America you go to andyou're like, what, I know,
how well? I mean, evenimagining like the concept that there's a physician
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out there that doesn't understand that youburn calories all the time, you know,
He legitimately was like, I donot want her burning any calories.
I'm like, dude, what that'sphysically impossible? In other words, you're
telling me that you want her todie right now because you can't not burn
calories like you know. I getwhere he was going with it. I
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understand his like his mindset, butit was just really stupid. So going
back to walking for a second,I guess the technical term of how it
fertilizes your brain through brain derived neurotrophicfactor. Are you familiar with that?
I'm not. Actually bed and Fsupports structural remodeling and growth synopses after learning,
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which helps improve cognitive function and makeyour brain more resilient. Your hippocampus
is essential to learning and memory,and it's the first part of the brain
affected by Alzheimer's. Wowtful, AndI didn't even know that. According to
research, the more you walk,the bigger your hipocampus will become, and
the less risk you have for hippocampalshrinkage and cognitive decline. It's impressive.
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Again, that's I'd had no idea. You know, that's a lot more
that's a lot more advanced than I'veever given thought to. I just I
just think going outside in general isan important factor. It's as we were,
we were designed like as human beingswere supposed to be outside like we
we've legitimately lived outside for a vastmajority of human existence or primal yes,
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in stinct correct exactly, And sobeing outside just you know, as a
concept, isn't it is an importantthing? Not only that, like vitamin
D is one of the most importantyou know, vitamins that we our bodies
absolutely need. It's essential, andthe best way to absorb vitamin D is
through sunlight. So being outside there'sanother reason for it. And then of
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course, like just the component ofexercise in any capacity is good and walking
so long as you don't have somekind of an ailment or you know,
an amputated leg or something like that, everyone is capable of doing from the
time of your baby, So whynot just do it? It's this very
simple task. Everyone's capable of it. He literally just it's it's totally okay
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to open that door and just walkout there. You know, it's lame.
It's just sparked something in my head, where now all these cities that
are building massive, massive buildings formeant for entertainment purposes, sports, games,
whatever, they're almost I don't knowif there will ever be another outdoor
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only facility built in like football.Yeah, because take Nashville for example.
All right, they're they're gonna builda new stadium for the Titans. Well,
Nashville is looking at that as ameans to you know, not only
obviously host the Titans for ten gamesout of the year, but they want
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the SEC basketball tournament there. Theywant an NCUBA Regional, they want the
Final four. Of course, theywant a college football playoff game. Yeah.
The more versatile, the more moneythey make. Yeah, and those
aren't going to be awarded to citiesthat have outdoor stadiums. Those are all
dome setting type of events. Butwhat a shame it is for a sports
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fan like here in Saint Louis fortwenty years, I frequently am reminded of
this, like having to go sitin a warehouse. Granted it was terrible
football for the majority of the time. Yeah, but on a beautiful fall
Sunday, my dad and I aredriving down to go watch bad football indoors
in a low light, crap stadium. And yet that's only going to be
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Now what the new normal is asopposed to being outside in the open air
getting vitamin D. Yeah, that'slike the whole premise of the sport.
Their outdoor sports watch them outdoors andlet them play outdoors. Yeah, I'm
with you, man. It's it'sit's capitalism, which I'm a big proponent
of, as we all are.But you know, I think there's got
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to be some give and take.I agree, like the I like the
concept of the retractable roofs. I'mokay with that. Yeah, And I
know that's extremely expensive, but Ilike that concept because on a day where
the weather might be horrendous, thenokay, close the roof. I get
that. But for the most part, these outdoor sports, I would just
love for them all to be playedoutdoors. You know, it's even fun.
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And I know basketball is like mymy favorite sport, and I know
that's an indoor sport, always hasbeen. But uh, in California a
few weeks ago, my brother andI went down to Venice Beach. We
rode we rode bikes down to theVenice boardwalk and whatever, and there was
over by like Muscle Beach, rightoff the boardwalk, they have tons of
basketball courts and there's just so manypeople out there playing and they had they
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had a league, like an organizedleague. They have announcers there, they
had people like a crowd watching andyou know, the announcers were like live
announcers announcing to the whole place,and it was awesome, like it was
outdoor basketball. And I know it'smeaningless like the you know, no one's
getting paid to do it. It'smore of just like a leisurely thing.
But I love that. I evenlove outdoor basketball. Not that I would
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ever expect the NBA to play outdoorgames or anything. No, but do
you remember it was UNC and theyplayed somebody in your class? Yes?
I think I remember this in SanDiego. The US says something on it's
awesome for cool. I mean,they play on a naval ship, so
cool. I totally agree. Yeah, I think that's amazing. Give me
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more of that. It's totally yep, yep, a few more things.
You're on walking because I think thisis uh. Some people would hear this
and go, wow, it's actualactivity, so how could it be recovery?
But walking walking helps with recou itdoes. It stimulates blood flow,
removes toxins, keeps your muscles flexible, reduces lactic acid build up, and
decreases soreness. The best way tospeed recovery is not on your couch,
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but by taking a brisk walk.Ye. How many people would think that
would be counterintuitive recovery exercise. HowYep. As a matter of fact,
I even program for some of mycompetitor clients what I call a feeder day,
which is kind of an active recoveryday. Now, this has nothing
to do with walking necessarily, butit's the same concept where you're The feeder
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days are basically designed to go comeat the tail end of your training programming.
So like if you train like Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and then
on Sunday, you would have afeeder day. And the feeder day is
basically just like a full body weightliftingworkout, but you're not you're going to
about fifty percent of your capability,so you're using less weight, you're not
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going anywhere near like mechanical failure onyour sets, and then you're stretching after
you complete the final set, andit's it's basically just it does exactly what
you just described about walking, exceptspecific to the muscles that you've trained throughout
the entire week. And it's thatthat type of training is designed for the
same thing. It's training, butit's actually it's active recovery. It's just
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increasing the blood flow to the muscles, and you know, nutrient dense blood
getting into that muscle will actually andmoving that muscle around, stretching it and
contracting it will actually cause it torecover more significantly. You know how many
people in their fifties and sixties theyget a diagnosis of well, I got
dead shoulder, right? Oh,how you got dead shoulder from not using
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it? Bingo? Your rotator cuffwon't lift. You can't raise your arm
up above your head because your rotatorcuff literally has been so inactive that it's
dead. Yeah, And that's theterm. And they're like, well,
how did I get dead shoulder?Well, when was the last time you
literally picked up anything over your head? Well, I haven't done it in
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twenty five years. Why is thatright? Well, I haven't had I
haven't had any motivation. You don'tneed They're not gonna have motivation. That's
the thing, like, you're justThe motivation thing has always been lost on
me. I've never understood the conceptof motivation. I have so many friends
that send me these stupid compilation motivationalvideos and I'm like, oh my god,
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you have no idea how exhausting thisis for me. I don't care.
This does nothing for me, likeI've never and I'm not trying to
sound like a tough guy here.I just don't care about motivational stuff.
You're not getting into David Goggins.I got so funny that you bring him
up. I absolutely abhor David doc. I can't stand him. I think
he's the biggest joke on the internet, the second to maybe Tim Grover.
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And I know that's probably controversial.You guys know Tim Grover. He was
Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant's trainer.That's literally the only reason he has a
name at all. He's been milkingthat for thirty something years now that he
that's those are his two you know, those are. The only reason he
got Kobe as a client is becausehe had Jordan as a client. And
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the only reason he got Jordan asa client is because in that time period
there were hardly any personal trainers.It did It wasn't really an industry that
existed yet, and he just happenedto have gotten in at the right time.
I don't know what it was,early nineties, I want to say
when he started training Jordan. IfI'm not mistaken, I'm not super up
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to date with his history because Ireally don't care. But the fact of
the matter is, by happy stancehe became Michael Jordan's trainer. Good for
him. I would I would attributesomewhere in the realm of zero percent of
Michael Jordan's success to anything that hadto do with Tim Grover. And again,
I think Kobe. The only reasonhe ever got Kobe as a client
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was because Kobe was mimicking what Jordandid. Everyone knows that Kobe was just
a mirror image of Jordan. Asidefrom that, I think he would be
like a sixty year old guy ina sweatsuit at twenty four hour fitness waiting
for his next geriatric client to comein. But instead he's like a best
selling author and it's just a motivationalgarbage. People eat it up, people
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love it. And it's like I'msitting here on the sidelines, like,
oh my god, you guys likethis, Like he says there, it's
just like David Goggins. Yeah,he just he does. He says the
stupid cliches and the stupid little oneliner quotes, and people just eat it
up. People rely. Do youknow who Eric Thomas is? I don't
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the motivational speaker like, if youwant to if you want to be successful
as badly as you want to breathe, that's when you know that you want
to be successful or whatever. Butthese motivational speakers, it's just like,
look, how awesome I am?Be like me? Yeah, is what
it sounds like. Well, Ithink these people are jerks, not only
that their entire success is predicated onyou listening to them talk about themselves.
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Okay, I don't care, Like, I really don't care unless I'm living
your exact life. I don't carewhat you do or what you did.
Now again, if you're really outthere like accomplishing things, you really don't
have to speak on it a wholelot. And those are the people who
I'm a lot more interested in,even like Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan are
prime examples. Those guys quote unquotemotivate me because they're unbelievable at what they
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do. Tim Grover, the guywho very temporarily occasionally trained them in a
gym for something that wasn't necessarily superspecific to what they did for a living,
doesn't motivate me at all. Zeropercent. What does that say though
about our culture and how we areso fascinated to find individuals like that to
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allegedly give motivation to people via YouTubeor something like that. I mean,
searches for this kind of thing areIt's provided unbelievable wealth for a lot of
people who are influencers in this realm. This is that people want to do
that stuff, but a lot ofthe people, but a lot of people
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they don't do it. Oh theydon't. So they'll sit there for an
hour and listen to a motivational videoand they'll feel good. I guess seratonin
leaks into their brain, so theyhave like good feeling good thoughts for ten
minutes, and then they go backand eating you know, a whole row
of chips. Ahoy, Yep.It's it's always the people who are most
excited by these motivational people and videosand quotes and whatever that don't do anything.
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They're just people just need heroes.Man, Let's just let's just call
it what it is like. Whenyou're a kid, you need actual superhero
you need Superman and Batman, andyou need superheroes. When you get older.
These are people's these are adult superheroes. They need people who to give
them that like fantastical excitement that theydon't actually do anything with. Like when
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you're a kid, you don't actuallygo fly in between buildings and save damsels
and distress. You just like readingabout it and seeing it on a TV
screen. It's the same thing forthese adults. They like to listen to
guys who have claimed to have accomplisheda lot tell you how how to do
it. None of them actually followany of the instructions. Frankly, most
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of the instructions that they're giving won'tprovide you any results even if you do
follow it, because your circumstances areso different than there's are or were,
that it's useless anyway. The point, the whole point of this is,
I've sound super pessimistic, but likemotivation gets you literally nowhere, Like it's
when it's it's executing and doing thethings that you're not motivated to do that
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get you somewhere. You might notbe motivated to go outside and do a
two mile walk, but just doit, do it anyway, you know,
that's it's literally that simple. Ifyou got to listen to a reel
on Instagram made by Tim Grover tellingyou how important it is to go out
there and get it done. Beforeyou actually go out there and get it
done, I'm sorry. There's notenough videos in the world that are going
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to make you actually do this stuff. I think one of the biggest dilemmas
is the lack of patients, becauseI think people hear the motivation and they
agree with everything they're saying. That'swhy they keep watching the videos. That's
why these people have careers as motivationalspeakers. People are buying what they're saying.
But then they go to the gymfor two weeks, Oh why why
don't look like David Ogoggins? Nowwhy am I not in shape? And
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they go, well, well,this is stupid, And then after two
or three weeks they're like, yeah, this isn't for me anymore because they
wanted the process to be expedited.To be clear, if I worked out
really hard and I ended up lookinglike David Goggins, I'd be pretty disappointed
too. I don't hate David.You had big chabs, so you still
be skinny. Yeah, it's becausehe used to be fat, right,
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Yeah, his whole thing is hewas fat and then somebody challenged him to
run. However, many laps aroundthe track and he ran like one hundred
and more than that just to showhim, and his legs were bleeding,
and he's like, look, ofcourse, how can you do anything?
Of course his legs were bleeding.I remember asked you about Jordan Peterson big
fan. You like Jordan Peters hugefan? Have you read as uh?
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I'm sure he has multiple books,but the Twelve Steps to Life? You
have you read that? I've notread it. He gets lectures on it.
Yeah. I am more of anauditory or visual learner. I Reading
books does me very little good unlessI'm on a plane. When I'm on
a plane, I can read andcomprehend because I have zero distractions. Outside
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of that, my brain doesn't functionwell that way. Like remember when you're
I know I'm getting off topic,but remember when you're a kid and the
teacher wheeled and the the TV andhe got really excited because it was like,
we don't get we don't have tolearn anything. That was when and
I actually was learning when they weretelling me to read this chapter and then
take a test. I failed.But I have consumed I don't know how
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many hours of Jordan Peterson content invideo form or podcast form. So anyway,
keep going on. Do you thinkis it's so talks it is?
I almost have to like slow itdown to be able to comprehend what the
hell he is actually saying. He'sa brilliant person. He's brilliant, he
is a perfect He's almost a genius. Maybe I probably is. I can't
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believe that he's become the political toolthat people want to make him. I
get it that Republicans tend to likehim more than Democrats, but he's just
he's just speaking from his experience asa professor. Like that's what's so funny
about some of these newer guys,whether it's like these aren't Joe Rogan or
Jordan Peterson. And actually, toa certain extent, I saw a passage
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from Chadwick Moore, who did anautobiography on Tucker Carlson, and how he
has likely talked about Ron Paul andhow at a Ron Paul event you would
have the most diverse mix of politicalideologies would show up at one point,
and like, it's funny that theseall these people have been sort of labeled
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as like hardcore right wing political stooges. There are people who aren't. They're
rarely talking about politics in any regard. They're not political people. They're you
know, they're not talker. Imean, he yeah, he's associated with
it, but you don't. Idon't hear Tucker Carlson talk about politics specifically
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all that much. He's just talkingabout, you know, the truth.
He's talking about things that he observesand then speaks on the truth and does
some of that leak into political policy, Sure, but there's a lot of
just like really stupid common sense stuffthat's just leaking into actual political policy that
was destroying the world that I wouldagree with. But Rogan and Peterson,
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I mean, Jordan Peterson is alifelong educator, right, you know,
like Joe Rogan, I don't.I don't even know if Joe Rogan knows
a whole lot in terms of politics. I don't know, Joe. And
what's even funnier is, like JoeRogan, Tim Pool's another one. Elon
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Musk is another one who are labeledlike right wing extremist. Yet all our
Democrats, all three of them areDemocrats because people are idiots, I guess,
because just people hear things that theydon't agree with, which, to
be honest with you, I don'tknow if they even know what they believe
in to begin with, and thenthey hear somebody disagree with it, and
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then they're a right wing extremist.Or what's even funnier is they're also racist,
even though yeah, whether they arediscussing a matter of race or not,
they're racist. Oh well, onceyou get the label of a right
wing extremists, I mean, youjust bring out the treasure chest of all
the different, you know, funthings that come along with that had a
whole lot of labels being thrown yourway, Come one, come all.
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Yet that's the thing, like,once they start labeling you things that you're
not even discussing, you know thatthese people are full of crab. How
about this, because there's always likethat threshold of ten thousand steps. I'm
not quite sure how we got toten thousand steps, But how many steps
should you aim for? Aim toget eight to ten thousand steps a day
or more. Adults who get eightto ten steps have a forty to fifty
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three percent lower risk of mortality.This amounts to two twenty minute walks a
day. Your challenge is to getout and go for a nice fifteen to
thirty minute walk in nature. SoI don't know how they came up with
that number, but I agree withit totally, and I've seen it.
It's become kind of a viral concept, is to try to get ten thousand
steps to day. My dad evenI don't know where he came up with
it either or where he heard aboutit, but my dad will brag about
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getting in his ten thousand steps andstuff, and I love it. It's
I agree, especially for the averageperson. If your goal is just to
be in better shape and be healthier, that's an easy goal to achieve every
single day. There's really no excusefor you to not be able to achieve
that under any circumstances. So ifyou want the most brass tacks like simple
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goal of fitness goal to achieve ona daily basis, just do that.
Especially with all these these different watchesand stuff and apps that track that kind
of stuff, it's mindless. Youdon't even have to do anything. Just
put on a watch and it'll trackyour steps for you and tell you whether
you're close, or whether you stillhave more to go, or if you're
already there or whatever. Let meask you. I'm trying to find precisely
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what I was reading earlier. Ithought I bookmarked it, but I don't.
Why carbohydrates before a workout? Whatdoes that do to your body?
So it'll store The concept of carbohydratesreally at any time is to store glycogen
in the muscle, so which isbasically like most of the food that we
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consume, aside from fats, mostprotein that we consume, and pretty much
all carbs that we consume convert toglucose and then our store or primarily in
muscle cells until those are saturated.But we don't need to go that far
with that. It just improves,like the contractions that you get in the
muscles when you're exercising and things likethat just gives you more energy and like
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the muscles have more of a propensityand more endurance to continue throughout a rigorous
workout. So yeah, it's it'sgood to have carbohydrates before and after training.
But there's all this like propaganda aboutfast digesting this and her, like
thirty minute anabolic window after you getdone training where you have to get those
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fast digesting carbs and protein, andthat's nonsense like that. You don't need
to pay attention to that really atall. But yeah, if you're gonna
do like rigorous exercise, it's alwaysgood to have some carbohydrates in your system
before you partake in it, becauseyou'll have a more productive workout. Well,
what about the theory of and Isort of fall into this category.
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I try to work out on anempty stomach. Yeah, yeah, people
can't. I can't either, Idon't. I know some people who swear
by it, and then other peoplewho just can't can't do it. And
I don't think there's anything wrong withworking out on an empty stomach. If
your goal is building muscle, Iwould recommend that you just drink some kind
of like amino acids or something duringthe workout just to help with repairing the
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muscle as you're breaking it down,since you don't have a lot of food
in your system. But again,if your goal is fat loss training fasted,
I don't think there. I reallydon't think there's any any problem with
it, because you're you're going tohave mostly depleted glycogen storage. But then
again, not even necessarily, becauseif you ate food the night before,
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which of course you did, youhad to have eaten at some point You've
probably still stored some glycogen in themuscle cell anyway, there just won't be
as much of it as as therewould be if you were to eat prior
to working out. I know,and this may not be a good question
because it's not visual we're on radio. But when I met the gym,
I see some people sometimes when they'resquatting, they'll put like a twenty five
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pound plate on the ground and thenlike lift their heels up a little bit.
What's the benefit of that, Yeah, yeah, I do that heel
elevation for anterior muscle groups like thequads. It just basically shifts more of
the tension to the anterior or thefront part of your body, so you're
not using as much like if you'rein this case when you're talking about squatting,
which is the primary reason to doit. It just shifts more of
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the tension that you're generating with theweight to your quads as opposed to distributing
some of it to your glutes andhamstrings. So it's basically makes it a
little bit more of an isolation movement. You see all sorts of little nuances
without some of them are stupid.Now that one's a good one. I
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like that one. What's an exampleover stupid? Oh god, on the
spot. I'd have to think aboutit. There's so many. And here's
the other thing. I just talkedabout this with someone yesterday. I'm a
lot of the loop of like normalgym culture because I have my own and
I have for so long. Yeah, huge fus. But I just don't
see you have your dogs at you'rea gym. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
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I just don't see a lot ofthe stupid stuff anymore. I'm so
far removed from it. But everyonein their cute little gym outfits that they
spend eighty five dollars on. Yeah, probably eighty five dollars per article of
clothing. Yeah, yeah, literally, yeah, head bands and sweatbands and
yeah, man, using I meanthis is a kind of an obscure one.
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It's just the first one that poppedinto my mind. But using this
is going to be stupid. It'stoo advanced for anyone to even know what
the hell I'm talking about. Butusing like on a hack squat, using
like the reverse bands, So theybanned the exercise to technically make the movement
easier than it would be without theband. That's stupid. I don't know
I'll end it on that, becausenobody knows what I'm talking about when I'm
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without giving a visual example. Anyway, what's the term for that? Because
I've somebody explained this to me onetime. I used to work with a
guy who's a huge fitness guy.Something resistance like when you put bands on,
accommodating resists any resistance. Yeah,So the purpose with the bands is
to make it harder. Really,the main purpose is to increase the load
at different points of a movement.So if you're using it on a hack
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squat in the reverse order the wayI described it could be beneficial, but
most of the people that are doingit don't know why it would be.
And it would be to overload thetop of the movement when the band is
loose, but they're not doing itfor that. They're doing it so they
can put more plates on the endof the machine and make it look like
they're lifting more weight than they are, when really the band is helping them
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lift that weight. But the purposewould be to do it the opposite way,
where the bands are actually getting tighteras you're moving the weight and making
it that's the you know, theconcept of accommodating resistance as you're increasing the
amount of resistance by adding the bandto the weights that you're moving, So
there's a benefit to that, andagain it's it's more so just to overload,
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you know, in this case,like the top of the movement where
you're getting closer to locking out,it's more common, Like honestly, the
only people who really probably need tofocus on that are like powerlifters, people
whose entire sport revolves around moving aweight one time with full range of motion.
So like if you're having trouble ona bench press with the locking out
position, then your training could includeaccommodating resistance, where there's bands that are
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stretching as you're moving the weight upso that it's becomes heavier as you get
further through the movement, so thenyou get stronger at locking out. Again,
it's that's pretty advanced stuff, butthere's yeah, there's a place for
it, but it's it's really likespecific and most people don't need to worry
(40:50):
about it. Fascinating you ever ranlike five k's or ten ks or any
of that organized stuff long time agowhen I was a kid, Yeah,
when I was still playing sports,Yeah I did. I did quite a
bit. I ran some five k's. Do you ever spend a bunch of
money to run when you can justdo it by yourself for free. I
don't know that. I don't thinkI've ever spent any money crying. I've
never spent any money on hiking.I always if it goes to charity,
(41:13):
that's okay. But some of thestuff is silly. When I hear how
much my friend friends do some Columbusmarathon or whatever, I'm like, why
are you spending this much money?Just go run on a track for that
long. If you want to,you pay to get into one of these
things. Some of the stuff,yeah, wow, boy, it's funny.
Like before I actually got into hikingas a hobby and something now that
I'm very passionate about. I usedto make fun of people, my brother
(41:36):
included, who would go to ARIIand spend thousands of dollars on like hiking
equipment. I'm like, dude,you know this is free, right,
you need shoes, You just goand you just do it like you don't
need these stupid little polls that peopleuse it to be. That is such
a gimmick, man, There's nothing, There is no point to that like,
(41:57):
if you're jeriatric and there's no otherway for you to do it than
to like help pull yourself up witha stupid pole, then okay, I
guess you can also just do thatwith a stick you find on the ground.
For Christ's sake. Well, I'llsay, if you're like hiking into
mountains and you're going on a fifteenor twenty day jaunt, you might want
to That's different. I mean forsure, going out to Castlewood. Yeah,
and you're bringing the poles in theRII gear, dude, And I
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see that. I see it allthe time. I see people with the
poles and the camelbacks, like thebackpack with the little hose thing that gives
your mouth, and they're drinking outof their backpacks and they have food and
for like a forty five minute hike. Dude, stop it, it's ze.
It costs you zero dollars to dothis, but somehow you manage to
(42:43):
spend fifteen hundred bucks. Americans liketo spend money on the radios items.
Yes, they do. See youhave your first Form, sure it on
I do, I am do.I have to go get a new bottle
of first Form, the natural proteinouter, which is basically the only protein
powder I will choose to buy thisday and age, and for all of
(43:07):
the gimmicks with like smoothies and allthat. He just mixed that chocolate in
with water and you shake the hellout of it and you're consuming it.
It's like a hundred and twenty caloriesfor what is it twenty grams of protein
in one scoop depending on I usethe level one by that, yeah,
(43:28):
which is twenty five about twenty fivegrams of protein in one scoop. Yeah,
it's fantastic. I need all this. Oh, I gotta put this
in there. That in there.Now, you just put water one scoop,
shake that thing and you will beon your way to meeting your protein
goals. That's the easiest way ofdoing it. Yeah, for sure,
do you. I'm surprised that forSella doesn't get more pushback on the first
(43:52):
form brand with his podcast. Hegets quite a bit of pushback. Oh,
he does. He gets quite abit of pushback for a lot stuff.
Somebody just showed me the interview hehad with Eric Schmidt, the senator
former attorney attorney general here in Missouri. It was I mean, he's asking
him question I give Schmidt credit,like he was up there taking questions in
(44:13):
a real manner. Yeah, andI haven't seen that. Oh that's dya,
that's a dynamite interview. You shouldcheck that out. I should.
Dom actually showed it to me onI guess that was Friday Night or something
like that. I don't know who'sshown me the interview. And I'm like,
wow, I give him credit.And he's a good friend of mine.
They've got he's worth more than gotit and he's got a lot of
(44:34):
money. Yeah, he's done alot of good things. You know,
he's just he's He's made a lotof solid decisions that have landed him in
a really good position business wise,and a lot of a lot of stuff
that he does that people don't evenknow about, but from a business perspective.
But yeah, I don't consume aton of his content. And that's
not like I said. I lovethe guys. He's a close friend.
But listen, if you decided thatyou had to invest time in every one
(44:59):
of the people that you like theirpodcast or show or whatever, there's not
enough time in the day, right, I mean it's every single person now
has a show in some variety.They do. Yeah. And the other
thing is a lot of Andy's contentis a lot of the stuff that we
just talked about that I just don't. I'm just not into it. It's
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a lot of motivational stuff. That'sa lot of what has landed him in
the position he's in. He's avery motivational, nobs type of type of
guy, and he's got a lotto you know, he's got a lot
of attributes that would back those sentiments. And the other thing about him is
he's very real. Like a lotof these other guys are doing it because
they know it's monetizeable. Like ifI act like the big motivational guy,
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I'm going to make money off ofit, like Andy's That's truly who he
is. But again, that typeof content's just not my cup of tea.
Not that I disagree with what hesays, it's just that's part of
the reason I don't. Really Iwould rather engage with him on a personal
level than watch a video, youknow what I mean. I think I've
asked you this before, but therewas an article in MSNBC not too long
(46:06):
ago that said that lifting culture isnow right wing. Yeah, yeah,
I heard that too, But letme ask you this just in your experience,
Like, would you say eighty percentor more of people who are Jim
enthusiasts or fitness people, would yousay that they a lean conservative in their
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ideology. I wouldn't say eighty percentor more, not no, but probably
a little bit. Yeah, ButI just think that's a I think that's
just a personality characteristic for the mostpart. Yeah, it's just people who
like value hard work, that thatthat get into it, and that you
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see that on both sides of thepolitical spectrum. I just definitely think it's
way more prevalent on the right ifbut it's not. But the thing is,
that's correlation, not cause a.There's nothing political about that. It's
just it's just a side effect ofthe fact that I think more people that
lean to the right. And noticeI said lean to the right. I
don't mean super right wing, noteven people who would even necessarily I don't
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even call myself a Republican. Keepin mind, you're now right wing if
you just claim that a biological malebiological males. Correct, let's understand where
we're at. That's my exact terminology. So I would say that people who
lean to the right, those personalitytypes would lend themselves more to a lifestyle
that involves working out and were doinghard work. So yeah, I would
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say a majority of people that Isee in my industry would probably lean to
the right, but not by morethan eighty percent. No, I think
it's a bipartisan thing. It's not. It's there's nothing political about it.
There was just a cool There wasa wild study that was put out recently
how young men, young males aretrending more conservative totally. And it's really
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not that. You don't have tolook very far as to the rationale behind
that. I mean, they're stuckin essential education prisons with these nut job
teachers that are just foisting bs downtheir throat. I mean, my god,
it's crazy what's happening there. Andthen also I would say that there
is a movement among a generation ofkids that are getting into weightlifting at an
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earlier age than ever before. Imean, as you just pointed out,
weightlift, I mean fitness people,trainers. It wasn't even a thing until
like the mid to late nineties.Correct, So now you're seeing generations of
people get brought up well, youknow, going with their dad to the
(48:44):
gym or something like that and gettinginto a regiment, which hey I'm all
about. I mean, my god, this country's gotten so damn unhealthy,
obesity rape being what it is.You see these younger generations for all of
their faults. I mean, tosee trends moving in a good direction,
in my opinion, is something toapplause. Well, I mean, we
live in the information era. Informationis so easily and readily available, and
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some of it doesn't require social mediaor a TV or any of the above.
It's just like observation. Little kidscan observe people older than them just
screwing up their lives and act behavingin the stupidest, most erratic ways,
and they can learn from that.Most of the kids that are really struggling
right now are because their parents arelike children themselves. Yes, I mean
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it's insane to me the way theybehave online, the things that they do,
Like good lord, people's people ofall ages are really really easily manipulated
psychologically, And I think that themedia and just society as a whole,
as it pertains to the lessons thatthey've learned through the media, have there.
They are They're like children and they'vebeen manipulated to a point where they're
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living really stupid lifestyles and it showsup like those people are obviously failing at
everything that they do, and theyounger generation is seeing that, and it's
pretty easy to just look and say, Okay, they're what they're doing is
not working. I don't want tobe like them. Yeah, maybe if
parents like took twenty minutes out ofthere going a hike or a walk as
opposed to sitting there and filling theirbrains with crap like Kardashian nonsense stuff,
(50:15):
we could move the needle just ahair nice Flipperbeans said two other names that
are actually onto the Peterson and Roganthing. But Russell Brand, who's terrific.
I just watched a long inform interviewwith him and uh and Tucker Carlson,
which was great, and then AdamCarolla too. Corolla is terrific in
an industry that you can't even darechallenge some of the theories that he has.
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And isn't it funny the dichotomy betweenhim and h Okay, so you
remember the Man Show, Yeah,Jimmy Jimmy Kimmel. The dichotomy between those
two guys whose careers basically started withThe Man Show, and they went in
polar opposite directions, I mean completelypolar opposite. Guy Jimmy kim Right who
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put blackface on, who still hostsa nightly show on Yeah, if it's
still airing. I don't know.I thought they're all on strike, the
writers, the actors. Yeah,who knows. I don't know because I
don't pay attention. I got onemore marks before we head out. Yeah.
So, and I was born inninety nine, so my upbringing was
it was the food pyramid that wasthe thing. How much of that still
apply? Because I know that dietitianand science that all this stuff is ever
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evolving. So all the stuff,all of the nutrition information predicated by the
FDA is pretty much garbage. Andthat's all capitalism too. It's just the
way, you know, they're thefood companies and the food manufacturers and stuff
are in bed with the government,and they basically determine, They determine what
the government tells you is good toeat. The good thing is is nobody
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adheres to it like they tell,you know, the food pyramid or whatever
they even have now, I don'teven know what it is, but it's
garbage. I mean, it's alwaysand it always has been, and it
always will be. I think wealways we all know that if there's any
information coming from the the from directlyfrom the government, it's almost always garbage.
And that that obviously pertains to theFDA and food. The good thing
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is is human beings don't. Americancitizens don't ever really adhere to it anyway.
So you learn about it a littlebit in school, But how much
of the crap you learn in schooldo you actually apply to your daily life.
Yeah, And I've noticed also thatwhen you look at the nutrition facts
of whatever sort of item you're aboutto eat, it has like grams of
sugar, grams of carbs, whatever. And then I'll put the percentage of
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your daily total. How in thehell does that work? Because I'm six
four two h five nates less thanseven feet tall and yeah, yeah,
yeah, Like, so how doesthat percentage work because we're on two different
diets. Yeah, they're just goingoff of like the average average, I
guess, but the average man orwoman those are two well, you can't
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even well, yeah, difference,don't assume the gin the average day,
sure, yeah, yeah, theaverage the average z zena. Those are
Leah Thomas's percentages, and we haveto work off of that. Here is
zz just have to ignore that stuffentirely, which which sucks because it is
a good you know, there couldbe good metrics there, but you just
have to know what macronutrients to consumeand how many calories to consume and customize
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it to yourself. And that's hardto do, which is why people like
me have jobs. Bingo, allright, Marcus, great chat, very
informative. Is always covering a lotof ground here on our third hour of
high noon on a Wednesday. Twopoint zero Training Systems and Webster Groves at
sidell Underscore nutrition on Instagram, reachout book your you know, first class
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today over two point zero Training systemLet's do it. Change that attitude.
Can do it. I hate togive Nike credit, but just do it.
Was one of the best tag better. Couldn't be any more simple than
that, No question, by theway. Good one last thing, Happy
birthday to Bob Kuzy's ninety five TodayHey Wizard of Worcester. Dion Sanders fifty
six and Jerry Garci had died onthis day at the age of fifty three
(54:01):
in nineteen ninety five from a heartattack, So listen to some grateful debt.
It'll zen you out. I didn'tget into penn in barstool and ESPN
or anything like that today, butI got a lot of thoughts on that,
so we'll cover that tomorrow here onHigh Noon. Marcus. Good to
be with you, sir. Thankyou, Two Point Training Systems, Webster
Groves at Sidell, Underscore Nutrition onInstagram. Cool. Thanks man. Have
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a great rest your Wednesday. TheBurning show up next.
High Noon continues now on five ninetythe fan. So many times it happens
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Noon, taking me up till threepm Today Bernie Nicholas will host The Bernie
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Show with Jim Here Dave Solomon comingup after three pm. Marcus side l
two point zero Training Systems in WebsterGroves. Kind enough to hop in studio
with us? How are sure?I am lovely as ever? Could you
see you as well? Nice tosee in person. I guess we did
it on the phone for a longtime. We did it on the phone.
It's so much more fun when I'mhere. It is, you know,
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you inspire. Actually I was inspiredtoday because I've frequently asked you.
You know, when you get intoa routine of just going to the gym
every day and it doesn't even it'slike clockwork, it's like brushing your teeth,
It's just part of what you dotoday. It was one of those
days where it was nice to kindof sleep in. I hit snooze a
(01:30):
few times too. The rain,it was very easy to just sit there
and not do a damn thing untileight thirty am or something like that.
Right, drag my butt to thegym. I get there and I'm still
like, you know, my legsare a little more or whatever. And
I'm walking in and there was alady who clearly had MS, and she
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had the things attached to her arms, you know, so she could keep
her balance. I see her leavingthe gym and getting into her car,
you know, right there by theentrance. And I thought to myself,
I'll tell you what, if shecan figure out a way, and she
was. She was up. Shewas up there, you know, I'd
(02:15):
say she was at least sixty plus. I said, damn it. If
she can do this, if shecan make her way to the gym and
all of that, just walking fromthe door to her car with those things,
I said, I am not goingto complain about a damn thing today.
My legs no longer hurt. I'mgetting on that treadmill. I'm running
two miles and I'm gonna go workout my leg and I'm not going to
(02:38):
complain at all about any pain Ihave in my life, so I found
it to be very inspiring. Ithink people like that are the most inspiring
people by far in my opinion.I've never been inspired by bodybuilders and like
fitness enthusiasts and fitness influencers of anykind, not even maybe when I was
(03:00):
younger, I was maybe inspired bylike professional athletes obviously, and I guess
to a degree I still am.But those are the those types of people
who have been dealt the worst,the worst cards, that still overcome it
and still do it are the mostinspiring people ever. And it does it
kind of puts into perspective like Ireally have no excuse, and when I
(03:23):
say I don't mean me, Imean everyone, Like, there really is
no excuse not to do this stuff. It's just hard to make it a
habit to do it. But onceyou make a habit of doing it,
like, you just do it.And there's people who have way worse circumstances
than you that are doing it.So if they can do it, you
gotta do it. Are my mutualfriend, your client, Dominic Trippy,
(03:47):
our buddy who's been in studio forthis segment a handful of times. You
know, his stepfather just passed awaytoday after dealing with about of pancreatic cancer.
Right, And somebody the other daysaid, well, you seem to
be in a good mood today,and I said, well, you know
what, I've got my health,right, you know you can you can
find just about any reason on earth. Hell, I just did for the
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last fifteen minutes reminiscing of the peopleattacking Aaron Rodgers for not getting the COVID
shot like that kind of that pissesme off. So there's my ten minutes
of rage that I'll try to limittoday. But honestly, when you've got
your health, you look at allthe outside bs that you're hit with like
a bug on a windshield every day, and you just go, well,
all right, how am I gonnaroll with this one? What are we
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gonna do today to make it abetter day than yesterday? And just keep
moving forward? Mindset that I thinka lot of times individuals, when they
have a tough day or whatever,they can get so soured by it.
Yep, yeah, I think ofit like, have you ever had really
any kind of sickness? Like forme, I always I think I used
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to get ear infections a lot stillfor as an adult more frequently than a
typical adult. I get ear infectionsabout once a year. Now. When
I was a kid, it wouldhappen more frequently than that. And it's
the most miserable thing in the entireworld. And when you're in that like
state of just complete misery, youthink to yourself, like, God,
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I'll never take for granted not feelinglike this ever again, Like I can't
wait to be able to wake upand not be in any pain and just
feel normal again. And when youfinally do for the first time, it's
like a really incredible feeling. Andso, I mean, when you're when
you're in some of these situations whereyou're just like basically self imposing a bunch
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of like negativity and excuses and whatever, I try to think back to those
moments when it's like, Dude,I've been in situations that are ten times
worse than this, and I've toldmyself I would never take that for granted
again. And now I'm in asituation where nothing is actually wrong, and
now I'm just creating things to complainabout, Like I can't. You can't
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let yourself do that. It's areally easy thing to do, but you
can't let yourself do it. Thiswas a quote that my former boss sent
me, actually two days ago.He goes the longer I live, the
more I realize the importance of attitudeon life. Attitude to me is more
important than facts. It is moreimportant than the past, than education,
than money, than circumstances, thanfailures, than success or what other people
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say or do. It's more importantthan appearance, giftedness or skill. It
will make or break a company,a church at home. The remarkable thing
is we have a choice every dayregarding the attitude we embrace that day.
We cannot change our past. Wecannot change the fact that people will act
a certain way. We cannot changethe inevitable. The only thing we can
do is play on the one stringwe have, and that is attitude.
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I am convinced that life is tenpercent what happens to me and ninety percent
how I react to it. Andso it is with you. We are
in charge of our attitudes. Isn'tthat a great quote? It's fantastic.
It just comes down to like whatyou can and can't control, Like,
if you just control the things thatyou can control, life is going to
be as good as it's going tobe doesn't mean that it's always going to
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be great, because sometimes things thatare completely out of your control are going
to happen that aren't that aren't fun. But if you control the things that
you can control, and you're inthis case, your attitude is one of
them, it's going to be asgood as it can possibly be. What
percentage of your clients leave two pointzero training system after a session in a
worse mood than when they showed up. I can't imagine any I'm gonna say
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they might leave, you know,yeah, yeah, like satirically exhausted,
and they might be all mad atme satirically, but no, yeah,
they leave, I would I wouldestimate that they all leave in a much
better mood. For sure. Itjust clears your mind, right, it
does. It's a sense of accomplishment, Like even if it's even if it's
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something that you've been able to dobefore and it's not anything new, you
still like accomplished something that was youknow, out of your comfort zone and
and that's you know, that's onethat's one way to definitely improve the positivity
of your attitude. You are astrong proponent of the impact that a daily
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walk can have on your life,and in particular walks outside, which Cole
has adopted almost what twice a day? What do you do twice a day?
I'm here for eight hours a day. I don't know that much.
Well that's true, but you're fiveminutes. We let you outside of the
cage when I can. The hotterthe better, I'm more motivated than the
old walk when it's one hundred degreesout now. Today obviously not a great
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day. We had some some cloudcoverage and some rains, so there's not
gonna be a walk day. Butyeah, I like to when I can.
Yeah, for sure the rain isgonna deter you. Uh, yeah,
you know what's weird? I actuallywill sometimes have the opposite mindset when
it's like raining or it's snowing,or it's colder than you know what outside.
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Yeah I almost weren't with us,interesting word. But when it's like
terrible elements, I will just gooutside and go on a run. Yep.
And it's like me competing against theearth. Well when you know that,
what's that competition? Tough mutter oryeah, I'm like, you know
what, let's go, let's goget absolutely drenched, let me be freezing
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cold. Put me in elements thatI am destined to not like and force
my brain to change that attitude.I honestly couldn't agree more with both of
you, really, but there andthere are times when so I disagree with
the hot thing. I'd rather theopposite. I'd prefer it if it's freezing
cold over super hot. But I'mgonna do it. I do it either
way. I just hate hot.I want to sweat. Yeah, and
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that's totally fair. I'm probably theweird one in this equation for sure.
I hate sweating unless I'm working out. If I'm like just in here sitting
and I start sweating, I'm gonnabe like fidgeting and I'm like, oh,
man, Like I'm we got peoplearound here, Let's just me and
myself and I and while I'm workingout, crank up the heat, burn
burn more calories and make the mostof it. Have you ever seen so
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m Jansen sits in your seat andthe warning cam former NHL player in you
know, good shape, But atthe end of a show, if he's
wearing a wrong shirt granted three ourshow, that man will walk out and
it looks like he has just jumpedout of a swimming pool. I mean,
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he's under arms. It's unbelievable.Yeah, I sweat a lot too.
Why is why do some people sweatmore than others? And why in
particular, if you're doing like agluts and legs day, does that make
you just sweat so? I mean, I'm just drenched. I don't know
why people some people sweat more thanothers. To be honest with you,
I have no idea. I cananswer the second part of the question if
you're training like legs and gluts becauseyou're you're you're just training a higher threshold
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of the muscle fibers. You're justyou're burning more calories. When you're training
bigger muscle groups like that. That'sI mean, that's like half your body
if you think about it. Whereaswe typically break up our upper body workouts
into segments, you know, ifyou're doing arms, that's obviously not nearly
as much you know, total mass. That's actually like moving and contracting and
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stretching and stuff, as as yourentire lower body. But I don't know
why people swept more than others.I do too. My underarms sweat like
crazy. It's it's I have noidea. Why can you burn more calories
by screaming on the radio instead oftalking. Yeah, probably probably starting more
energy. Yeah, I would say, so, Well, then hey,
Cam's got a workout end in themorning. I used to know. It's
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so funny a lot. Yeah,just very bombastic personality. Always creates sound
effects for every story that happens thatand then then scraped my car like or
whatever. It's very high energy.All right, yeah, great, Cam
Jansen. It is a funny,you know, having broadcast games before.
You know, I've got this littledevice that monitors everywhere I go and basically
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as a chip in me. Isuppose this Apple Watch. But after like
calling a game, I'll notice it'llburn like three hundred calories. Oh yeah,
I believe it. Yeah, Imean, yeah, you're burning calories
twenty four hours a day, youknow, like even when you're sleeping,
you're burning calories. I remember therewas one time I had a client who
she was underweight. This was along time ago, this is like a
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decade ago. She was underweight,and she hired me for the purposes of
gaining weight. Not even not evenlike to compete or you know, be
a bodybuilder of any kind. Shejust wanted to gain weight. Arbitrarily,
which is very rare, maybe theonly client I've ever had that was like
that. And she needed to Shewas very underweight, Like I'm gonna I
don't remember her height, let's justsay five three. She probably weighed ninety
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pounds, and she ate a lot, like she just had a psychotic metabolism,
And what was the point I wasgonna make here? Just lost my
train of thought. She was underwating. She needed to add Oh, that's
what it was. So she hada family friend who was like I think
he was a chiropractor that had toldher he did not want her exercising at
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all. He said, do notexercise. He was like, if you're
actually I don't want you burning anycalories. And I was like, okay.
First of all, that's really stupid, Like one of the best ways
and the most important way for youto quote unquote gain weight is to build
muscle, and the only way youcan build muscle is via exercise. The
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second component of that that's extra stupidis that you can't avoid burning calories.
Blinking your eyes burns calories, Likeevery single being alive burns calories. That's
literally how you survive is the actof burning calories. Now I under would
I tell her to go outside andrun five miles a day, No,
of course not. That would bevery stupid. But burning calories is happening
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twenty four hours a day. Youjust burn a higher threshold of calories while
you're exercising. However, if you'reexercising for the purposes of gaining weight,
you know, and you're eating ina calorie surplus, then the only thing
that's going to happen is you're gonnabuild muscle, which, again, building
muscle equates to more weight. Sothis, uh, this was a doctor.
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Yeah, measine, a doctor lookingyou square in the eye and saying,
don't extra spt. Maybe that's whyevery single doctor and a man and
I shouldn't say every single doctor,but a lot of Americans in America,
doctors in America you go to andyou're like, what, I know,
how well? I mean, evenimagining like the concept that there's a physician
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out there that doesn't understand that youburn calories all the time, you know,
He legitimately was like, I donot want her burning any calories.
I'm like, dude, what that'sphysically impossible? In other words, you're
telling me that you want her todie right now because you can't not burn
calories like you know. I getwhere he was going with it. I
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understand his like his mindset, butit was just really stupid. So going
back to walking for a second,I guess the technical term of how it
fertilizes your brain through brain derived neurotrophicfactor. Are you familiar with that?
I'm not. Actually bed and Fsupports structural remodeling and growth synopses after learning,
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which helps improve cognitive function and makeyour brain more resilient. Your hippocampus
is essential to learning and memory,and it's the first part of the brain
affected by Alzheimer's. Wowtful, AndI didn't even know that. According to
research, the more you walk,the bigger your hipocampus will become, and
the less risk you have for hippocampalshrinkage and cognitive decline. It's impressive.
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Again, that's I'd had no idea. You know, that's a lot more
that's a lot more advanced than I'veever given thought to. I just I
just think going outside in general isan important factor. It's as we were,
we were designed like as human beingswere supposed to be outside like we
we've legitimately lived outside for a vastmajority of human existence or primal yes,
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in stinct correct exactly, And sobeing outside just you know, as a
concept, isn't it is an importantthing? Not only that, like vitamin
D is one of the most importantyou know, vitamins that we our bodies
absolutely need. It's essential, andthe best way to absorb vitamin D is
through sunlight. So being outside there'sanother reason for it. And then of
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course, like just the component ofexercise in any capacity is good and walking
so long as you don't have somekind of an ailment or you know,
an amputated leg or something like that, everyone is capable of doing from the
time of your baby, So whynot just do it? It's this very
simple task. Everyone's capable of it. He literally just it's it's totally okay
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to open that door and just walkout there. You know, it's lame.
It's just sparked something in my head, where now all these cities that
are building massive, massive buildings formeant for entertainment purposes, sports, games,
whatever, they're almost I don't knowif there will ever be another outdoor
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only facility built in like football.Yeah, because take Nashville for example.
All right, they're they're gonna builda new stadium for the Titans. Well,
Nashville is looking at that as ameans to you know, not only
obviously host the Titans for ten gamesout of the year, but they want
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the SEC basketball tournament there. Theywant an NCUBA Regional, they want the
Final four. Of course, theywant a college football playoff game. Yeah.
The more versatile, the more moneythey make. Yeah, and those
aren't going to be awarded to citiesthat have outdoor stadiums. Those are all
dome setting type of events. Butwhat a shame it is for a sports
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fan like here in Saint Louis fortwenty years, I frequently am reminded of
this, like having to go sitin a warehouse. Granted it was terrible
football for the majority of the time. Yeah, but on a beautiful fall
Sunday, my dad and I aredriving down to go watch bad football indoors
in a low light, crap stadium. And yet that's only going to be
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Now what the new normal is asopposed to being outside in the open air
getting vitamin D. Yeah, that'slike the whole premise of the sport.
Their outdoor sports watch them outdoors andlet them play outdoors. Yeah, I'm
with you, man. It's it'sit's capitalism, which I'm a big proponent
of, as we all are.But you know, I think there's got
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to be some give and take.I agree, like the I like the
concept of the retractable roofs. I'mokay with that. Yeah, And I
know that's extremely expensive, but Ilike that concept because on a day where
the weather might be horrendous, thenokay, close the roof. I get
that. But for the most part, these outdoor sports, I would just
love for them all to be playedoutdoors. You know, it's even fun.
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And I know basketball is like mymy favorite sport, and I know
that's an indoor sport, always hasbeen. But uh, in California a
few weeks ago, my brother andI went down to Venice Beach. We
rode we rode bikes down to theVenice boardwalk and whatever, and there was
over by like Muscle Beach, rightoff the boardwalk, they have tons of
basketball courts and there's just so manypeople out there playing and they had they
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had a league, like an organizedleague. They have announcers there, they
had people like a crowd watching andyou know, the announcers were like live
announcers announcing to the whole place,and it was awesome, like it was
outdoor basketball. And I know it'smeaningless like the you know, no one's
getting paid to do it. It'smore of just like a leisurely thing.
But I love that. I evenlove outdoor basketball. Not that I would
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ever expect the NBA to play outdoorgames or anything. No, but do
you remember it was UNC and theyplayed somebody in your class? Yes?
I think I remember this in SanDiego. The US says something on it's
awesome for cool. I mean,they play on a naval ship, so
cool. I totally agree. Yeah, I think that's amazing. Give me
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more of that. It's totally yep, yep, a few more things.
You're on walking because I think thisis uh. Some people would hear this
and go, wow, it's actualactivity, so how could it be recovery?
But walking walking helps with recou itdoes. It stimulates blood flow,
removes toxins, keeps your muscles flexible, reduces lactic acid build up, and
decreases soreness. The best way tospeed recovery is not on your couch,
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but by taking a brisk walk.Ye. How many people would think that
would be counterintuitive recovery exercise. HowYep. As a matter of fact,
I even program for some of mycompetitor clients what I call a feeder day,
which is kind of an active recoveryday. Now, this has nothing
to do with walking necessarily, butit's the same concept where you're The feeder
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days are basically designed to go comeat the tail end of your training programming.
So like if you train like Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and then
on Sunday, you would have afeeder day. And the feeder day is
basically just like a full body weightliftingworkout, but you're not you're going to
about fifty percent of your capability,so you're using less weight, you're not
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going anywhere near like mechanical failure onyour sets, and then you're stretching after
you complete the final set, andit's it's basically just it does exactly what
you just described about walking, exceptspecific to the muscles that you've trained throughout
the entire week. And it's thatthat type of training is designed for the
same thing. It's training, butit's actually it's active recovery. It's just
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increasing the blood flow to the muscles, and you know, nutrient dense blood
getting into that muscle will actually andmoving that muscle around, stretching it and
contracting it will actually cause it torecover more significantly. You know how many
people in their fifties and sixties theyget a diagnosis of well, I got
dead shoulder, right? Oh,how you got dead shoulder from not using
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it? Bingo? Your rotator cuffwon't lift. You can't raise your arm
up above your head because your rotatorcuff literally has been so inactive that it's
dead. Yeah, And that's theterm. And they're like, well,
how did I get dead shoulder?Well, when was the last time you
literally picked up anything over your head? Well, I haven't done it in
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twenty five years. Why is thatright? Well, I haven't had I
haven't had any motivation. You don'tneed They're not gonna have motivation. That's
the thing, like, you're justThe motivation thing has always been lost on
me. I've never understood the conceptof motivation. I have so many friends
that send me these stupid compilation motivationalvideos and I'm like, oh my god,
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you have no idea how exhausting thisis for me. I don't care.
This does nothing for me, likeI've never and I'm not trying to
sound like a tough guy here.I just don't care about motivational stuff.
You're not getting into David Goggins.I got so funny that you bring him
up. I absolutely abhor David doc. I can't stand him. I think
he's the biggest joke on the internet, the second to maybe Tim Grover.
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And I know that's probably controversial.You guys know Tim Grover. He was
Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant's trainer.That's literally the only reason he has a
name at all. He's been milkingthat for thirty something years now that he
that's those are his two you know, those are. The only reason he
got Kobe as a client is becausehe had Jordan as a client. And
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the only reason he got Jordan asa client is because in that time period
there were hardly any personal trainers.It did It wasn't really an industry that
existed yet, and he just happenedto have gotten in at the right time.
I don't know what it was,early nineties, I want to say
when he started training Jordan. IfI'm not mistaken, I'm not super up
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to date with his history because Ireally don't care. But the fact of
the matter is, by happy stancehe became Michael Jordan's trainer. Good for
him. I would I would attributesomewhere in the realm of zero percent of
Michael Jordan's success to anything that hadto do with Tim Grover. And again,
I think Kobe. The only reasonhe ever got Kobe as a client
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was because Kobe was mimicking what Jordandid. Everyone knows that Kobe was just
a mirror image of Jordan. Asidefrom that, I think he would be
like a sixty year old guy ina sweatsuit at twenty four hour fitness waiting
for his next geriatric client to comein. But instead he's like a best
selling author and it's just a motivationalgarbage. People eat it up, people
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love it. And it's like I'msitting here on the sidelines, like,
oh my god, you guys likethis, Like he says there, it's
just like David Goggins. Yeah,he just he does. He says the
stupid cliches and the stupid little oneliner quotes, and people just eat it
up. People rely. Do youknow who Eric Thomas is? I don't
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the motivational speaker like, if youwant to if you want to be successful
as badly as you want to breathe, that's when you know that you want
to be successful or whatever. Butthese motivational speakers, it's just like,
look, how awesome I am?Be like me? Yeah, is what
it sounds like. Well, Ithink these people are jerks, not only
that their entire success is predicated onyou listening to them talk about themselves.
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Okay, I don't care, Like, I really don't care unless I'm living
your exact life. I don't carewhat you do or what you did.
Now again, if you're really outthere like accomplishing things, you really don't
have to speak on it a wholelot. And those are the people who
I'm a lot more interested in,even like Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan are
prime examples. Those guys quote unquotemotivate me because they're unbelievable at what they
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do. Tim Grover, the guywho very temporarily occasionally trained them in a
gym for something that wasn't necessarily superspecific to what they did for a living,
doesn't motivate me at all. Zeropercent. What does that say though
about our culture and how we areso fascinated to find individuals like that to
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allegedly give motivation to people via YouTubeor something like that. I mean,
searches for this kind of thing areIt's provided unbelievable wealth for a lot of
people who are influencers in this realm. This is that people want to do
that stuff, but a lot ofthe people, but a lot of people
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they don't do it. Oh theydon't. So they'll sit there for an
hour and listen to a motivational videoand they'll feel good. I guess seratonin
leaks into their brain, so theyhave like good feeling good thoughts for ten
minutes, and then they go backand eating you know, a whole row
of chips. Ahoy, Yep.It's it's always the people who are most
excited by these motivational people and videosand quotes and whatever that don't do anything.
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They're just people just need heroes.Man, Let's just let's just call
it what it is like. Whenyou're a kid, you need actual superhero
you need Superman and Batman, andyou need superheroes. When you get older.
These are people's these are adult superheroes. They need people who to give
them that like fantastical excitement that theydon't actually do anything with. Like when
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you're a kid, you don't actuallygo fly in between buildings and save damsels
and distress. You just like readingabout it and seeing it on a TV
screen. It's the same thing forthese adults. They like to listen to
guys who have claimed to have accomplisheda lot tell you how how to do
it. None of them actually followany of the instructions. Frankly, most
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of the instructions that they're giving won'tprovide you any results even if you do
follow it, because your circumstances areso different than there's are or were,
that it's useless anyway. The point, the whole point of this is,
I've sound super pessimistic, but likemotivation gets you literally nowhere, Like it's
when it's it's executing and doing thethings that you're not motivated to do that
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get you somewhere. You might notbe motivated to go outside and do a
two mile walk, but just doit, do it anyway, you know,
that's it's literally that simple. Ifyou got to listen to a reel
on Instagram made by Tim Grover tellingyou how important it is to go out
there and get it done. Beforeyou actually go out there and get it
done, I'm sorry. There's notenough videos in the world that are going
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to make you actually do this stuff. I think one of the biggest dilemmas
is the lack of patients, becauseI think people hear the motivation and they
agree with everything they're saying. That'swhy they keep watching the videos. That's
why these people have careers as motivationalspeakers. People are buying what they're saying.
But then they go to the gymfor two weeks, Oh why why
don't look like David Ogoggins? Nowwhy am I not in shape? And
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they go, well, well,this is stupid, And then after two
or three weeks they're like, yeah, this isn't for me anymore because they
wanted the process to be expedited.To be clear, if I worked out
really hard and I ended up lookinglike David Goggins, I'd be pretty disappointed
too. I don't hate David.You had big chabs, so you still
be skinny. Yeah, it's becausehe used to be fat, right,
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Yeah, his whole thing is hewas fat and then somebody challenged him to
run. However, many laps aroundthe track and he ran like one hundred
and more than that just to showhim, and his legs were bleeding,
and he's like, look, ofcourse, how can you do anything?
Of course his legs were bleeding.I remember asked you about Jordan Peterson big
fan. You like Jordan Peters hugefan? Have you read as uh?
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I'm sure he has multiple books,but the Twelve Steps to Life? You
have you read that? I've notread it. He gets lectures on it.
Yeah. I am more of anauditory or visual learner. I Reading
books does me very little good unlessI'm on a plane. When I'm on
a plane, I can read andcomprehend because I have zero distractions. Outside
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of that, my brain doesn't functionwell that way. Like remember when you're
I know I'm getting off topic,but remember when you're a kid and the
teacher wheeled and the the TV andhe got really excited because it was like,
we don't get we don't have tolearn anything. That was when and
I actually was learning when they weretelling me to read this chapter and then
take a test. I failed.But I have consumed I don't know how
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many hours of Jordan Peterson content invideo form or podcast form. So anyway,
keep going on. Do you thinkis it's so talks it is?
I almost have to like slow itdown to be able to comprehend what the
hell he is actually saying. He'sa brilliant person. He's brilliant, he
is a perfect He's almost a genius. Maybe I probably is. I can't
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believe that he's become the political toolthat people want to make him. I
get it that Republicans tend to likehim more than Democrats, but he's just
he's just speaking from his experience asa professor. Like that's what's so funny
about some of these newer guys,whether it's like these aren't Joe Rogan or
Jordan Peterson. And actually, toa certain extent, I saw a passage
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from Chadwick Moore, who did anautobiography on Tucker Carlson, and how he
has likely talked about Ron Paul andhow at a Ron Paul event you would
have the most diverse mix of politicalideologies would show up at one point,
and like, it's funny that theseall these people have been sort of labeled
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as like hardcore right wing political stooges. There are people who aren't. They're
rarely talking about politics in any regard. They're not political people. They're you
know, they're not talker. Imean, he yeah, he's associated with
it, but you don't. Idon't hear Tucker Carlson talk about politics specifically
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all that much. He's just talkingabout, you know, the truth.
He's talking about things that he observesand then speaks on the truth and does
some of that leak into political policy, Sure, but there's a lot of
just like really stupid common sense stuffthat's just leaking into actual political policy that
was destroying the world that I wouldagree with. But Rogan and Peterson,
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I mean, Jordan Peterson is alifelong educator, right, you know,
like Joe Rogan, I don't.I don't even know if Joe Rogan knows
a whole lot in terms of politics. I don't know, Joe. And
what's even funnier is, like JoeRogan, Tim Pool's another one. Elon
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Musk is another one who are labeledlike right wing extremist. Yet all our
Democrats, all three of them areDemocrats because people are idiots, I guess,
because just people hear things that theydon't agree with, which, to
be honest with you, I don'tknow if they even know what they believe
in to begin with, and thenthey hear somebody disagree with it, and
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then they're a right wing extremist.Or what's even funnier is they're also racist,
even though yeah, whether they arediscussing a matter of race or not,
they're racist. Oh well, onceyou get the label of a right
wing extremists, I mean, youjust bring out the treasure chest of all
the different, you know, funthings that come along with that had a
whole lot of labels being thrown yourway, Come one, come all.
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Yet that's the thing, like,once they start labeling you things that you're
not even discussing, you know thatthese people are full of crab. How
about this, because there's always likethat threshold of ten thousand steps. I'm
not quite sure how we got toten thousand steps, But how many steps
should you aim for? Aim toget eight to ten thousand steps a day
or more. Adults who get eightto ten steps have a forty to fifty
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three percent lower risk of mortality.This amounts to two twenty minute walks a
day. Your challenge is to getout and go for a nice fifteen to
thirty minute walk in nature. SoI don't know how they came up with
that number, but I agree withit totally, and I've seen it.
It's become kind of a viral concept, is to try to get ten thousand
steps to day. My dad evenI don't know where he came up with
it either or where he heard aboutit, but my dad will brag about
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getting in his ten thousand steps andstuff, and I love it. It's
I agree, especially for the averageperson. If your goal is just to
be in better shape and be healthier, that's an easy goal to achieve every
single day. There's really no excusefor you to not be able to achieve
that under any circumstances. So ifyou want the most brass tacks like simple
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goal of fitness goal to achieve ona daily basis, just do that.
Especially with all these these different watchesand stuff and apps that track that kind
of stuff, it's mindless. Youdon't even have to do anything. Just
put on a watch and it'll trackyour steps for you and tell you whether
you're close, or whether you stillhave more to go, or if you're
already there or whatever. Let meask you. I'm trying to find precisely
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what I was reading earlier. Ithought I bookmarked it, but I don't.
Why carbohydrates before a workout? Whatdoes that do to your body?
So it'll store The concept of carbohydratesreally at any time is to store glycogen
in the muscle, so which isbasically like most of the food that we
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consume, aside from fats, mostprotein that we consume, and pretty much
all carbs that we consume convert toglucose and then our store or primarily in
muscle cells until those are saturated.But we don't need to go that far
with that. It just improves,like the contractions that you get in the
muscles when you're exercising and things likethat just gives you more energy and like
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the muscles have more of a propensityand more endurance to continue throughout a rigorous
workout. So yeah, it's it'sgood to have carbohydrates before and after training.
But there's all this like propaganda aboutfast digesting this and her, like
thirty minute anabolic window after you getdone training where you have to get those
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fast digesting carbs and protein, andthat's nonsense like that. You don't need
to pay attention to that really atall. But yeah, if you're gonna
do like rigorous exercise, it's alwaysgood to have some carbohydrates in your system
before you partake in it, becauseyou'll have a more productive workout. Well,
what about the theory of and Isort of fall into this category.
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I try to work out on anempty stomach. Yeah, yeah, people
can't. I can't either, Idon't. I know some people who swear
by it, and then other peoplewho just can't can't do it. And
I don't think there's anything wrong withworking out on an empty stomach. If
your goal is building muscle, Iwould recommend that you just drink some kind
of like amino acids or something duringthe workout just to help with repairing the
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muscle as you're breaking it down,since you don't have a lot of food
in your system. But again,if your goal is fat loss training fasted,
I don't think there. I reallydon't think there's any any problem with
it, because you're you're going tohave mostly depleted glycogen storage. But then
again, not even necessarily, becauseif you ate food the night before,
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which of course you did, youhad to have eaten at some point You've
probably still stored some glycogen in themuscle cell anyway, there just won't be
as much of it as as therewould be if you were to eat prior
to working out. I know,and this may not be a good question
because it's not visual we're on radio. But when I met the gym,
I see some people sometimes when they'resquatting, they'll put like a twenty five
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pound plate on the ground and thenlike lift their heels up a little bit.
What's the benefit of that, Yeah, yeah, I do that heel
elevation for anterior muscle groups like thequads. It just basically shifts more of
the tension to the anterior or thefront part of your body, so you're
not using as much like if you'rein this case when you're talking about squatting,
which is the primary reason to doit. It just shifts more of
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the tension that you're generating with theweight to your quads as opposed to distributing
some of it to your glutes andhamstrings. So it's basically makes it a
little bit more of an isolation movement. You see all sorts of little nuances
without some of them are stupid.Now that one's a good one. I
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like that one. What's an exampleover stupid? Oh god, on the
spot. I'd have to think aboutit. There's so many. And here's
the other thing. I just talkedabout this with someone yesterday. I'm a
lot of the loop of like normalgym culture because I have my own and
I have for so long. Yeah, huge fus. But I just don't
see you have your dogs at you'rea gym. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
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I just don't see a lot ofthe stupid stuff anymore. I'm so
far removed from it. But everyonein their cute little gym outfits that they
spend eighty five dollars on. Yeah, probably eighty five dollars per article of
clothing. Yeah, yeah, literally, yeah, head bands and sweatbands and
yeah, man, using I meanthis is a kind of an obscure one.
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It's just the first one that poppedinto my mind. But using this
is going to be stupid. It'stoo advanced for anyone to even know what
the hell I'm talking about. Butusing like on a hack squat, using
like the reverse bands, So theybanned the exercise to technically make the movement
easier than it would be without theband. That's stupid. I don't know
I'll end it on that, becausenobody knows what I'm talking about when I'm
(38:57):
without giving a visual example. Anyway, what's the term for that? Because
I've somebody explained this to me onetime. I used to work with a
guy who's a huge fitness guy.Something resistance like when you put bands on,
accommodating resists any resistance. Yeah,So the purpose with the bands is
to make it harder. Really,the main purpose is to increase the load
at different points of a movement.So if you're using it on a hack
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squat in the reverse order the wayI described it could be beneficial, but
most of the people that are doingit don't know why it would be.
And it would be to overload thetop of the movement when the band is
loose, but they're not doing itfor that. They're doing it so they
can put more plates on the endof the machine and make it look like
they're lifting more weight than they are, when really the band is helping them
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lift that weight. But the purposewould be to do it the opposite way,
where the bands are actually getting tighteras you're moving the weight and making
it that's the you know, theconcept of accommodating resistance as you're increasing the
amount of resistance by adding the bandto the weights that you're moving, So
there's a benefit to that, andagain it's it's more so just to overload,
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you know, in this case,like the top of the movement where
you're getting closer to locking out,it's more common, Like honestly, the
only people who really probably need tofocus on that are like powerlifters, people
whose entire sport revolves around moving aweight one time with full range of motion.
So like if you're having trouble ona bench press with the locking out
position, then your training could includeaccommodating resistance, where there's bands that are
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stretching as you're moving the weight upso that it's becomes heavier as you get
further through the movement, so thenyou get stronger at locking out. Again,
it's that's pretty advanced stuff, butthere's yeah, there's a place for
it, but it's it's really likespecific and most people don't need to worry
(40:50):
about it. Fascinating you ever ranlike five k's or ten ks or any
of that organized stuff long time agowhen I was a kid, Yeah,
when I was still playing sports,Yeah I did. I did quite a
bit. I ran some five k's. Do you ever spend a bunch of
money to run when you can justdo it by yourself for free. I
don't know that. I don't thinkI've ever spent any money crying. I've
never spent any money on hiking.I always if it goes to charity,
(41:13):
that's okay. But some of thestuff is silly. When I hear how
much my friend friends do some Columbusmarathon or whatever, I'm like, why
are you spending this much money?Just go run on a track for that
long. If you want to,you pay to get into one of these
things. Some of the stuff,yeah, wow, boy, it's funny.
Like before I actually got into hikingas a hobby and something now that
I'm very passionate about. I usedto make fun of people, my brother
(41:36):
included, who would go to ARIIand spend thousands of dollars on like hiking
equipment. I'm like, dude,you know this is free, right,
you need shoes, You just goand you just do it like you don't
need these stupid little polls that peopleuse it to be. That is such
a gimmick, man, There's nothing, There is no point to that like,
(41:57):
if you're jeriatric and there's no otherway for you to do it than
to like help pull yourself up witha stupid pole, then okay, I
guess you can also just do thatwith a stick you find on the ground.
For Christ's sake. Well, I'llsay, if you're like hiking into
mountains and you're going on a fifteenor twenty day jaunt, you might want
to That's different. I mean forsure, going out to Castlewood. Yeah,
and you're bringing the poles in theRII gear, dude, And I
(42:20):
see that. I see it allthe time. I see people with the
poles and the camelbacks, like thebackpack with the little hose thing that gives
your mouth, and they're drinking outof their backpacks and they have food and
for like a forty five minute hike. Dude, stop it, it's ze.
It costs you zero dollars to dothis, but somehow you manage to
(42:43):
spend fifteen hundred bucks. Americans liketo spend money on the radios items.
Yes, they do. See youhave your first Form, sure it on
I do, I am do.I have to go get a new bottle
of first Form, the natural proteinouter, which is basically the only protein
powder I will choose to buy thisday and age, and for all of
(43:07):
the gimmicks with like smoothies and allthat. He just mixed that chocolate in
with water and you shake the hellout of it and you're consuming it.
It's like a hundred and twenty caloriesfor what is it twenty grams of protein
in one scoop depending on I usethe level one by that, yeah,
(43:28):
which is twenty five about twenty fivegrams of protein in one scoop. Yeah,
it's fantastic. I need all this. Oh, I gotta put this
in there. That in there.Now, you just put water one scoop,
shake that thing and you will beon your way to meeting your protein
goals. That's the easiest way ofdoing it. Yeah, for sure,
do you. I'm surprised that forSella doesn't get more pushback on the first
(43:52):
form brand with his podcast. Hegets quite a bit of pushback. Oh,
he does. He gets quite abit of pushback for a lot stuff.
Somebody just showed me the interview hehad with Eric Schmidt, the senator
former attorney attorney general here in Missouri. It was I mean, he's asking
him question I give Schmidt credit,like he was up there taking questions in
(44:13):
a real manner. Yeah, andI haven't seen that. Oh that's dya,
that's a dynamite interview. You shouldcheck that out. I should.
Dom actually showed it to me onI guess that was Friday Night or something
like that. I don't know who'sshown me the interview. And I'm like,
wow, I give him credit.And he's a good friend of mine.
They've got he's worth more than gotit and he's got a lot of
(44:34):
money. Yeah, he's done alot of good things. You know,
he's just he's He's made a lotof solid decisions that have landed him in
a really good position business wise,and a lot of a lot of stuff
that he does that people don't evenknow about, but from a business perspective.
But yeah, I don't consume aton of his content. And that's
not like I said. I lovethe guys. He's a close friend.
But listen, if you decided thatyou had to invest time in every one
(44:59):
of the people that you like theirpodcast or show or whatever, there's not
enough time in the day, right, I mean it's every single person now
has a show in some variety.They do. Yeah. And the other
thing is a lot of Andy's contentis a lot of the stuff that we
just talked about that I just don't. I'm just not into it. It's
(45:19):
a lot of motivational stuff. That'sa lot of what has landed him in
the position he's in. He's avery motivational, nobs type of type of
guy, and he's got a lotto you know, he's got a lot
of attributes that would back those sentiments. And the other thing about him is
he's very real. Like a lotof these other guys are doing it because
they know it's monetizeable. Like ifI act like the big motivational guy,
(45:43):
I'm going to make money off ofit, like Andy's That's truly who he
is. But again, that typeof content's just not my cup of tea.
Not that I disagree with what hesays, it's just that's part of
the reason I don't. Really Iwould rather engage with him on a personal
level than watch a video, youknow what I mean. I think I've
asked you this before, but therewas an article in MSNBC not too long
(46:06):
ago that said that lifting culture isnow right wing. Yeah, yeah,
I heard that too, But letme ask you this just in your experience,
Like, would you say eighty percentor more of people who are Jim
enthusiasts or fitness people, would yousay that they a lean conservative in their
(46:29):
ideology. I wouldn't say eighty percentor more, not no, but probably
a little bit. Yeah, ButI just think that's a I think that's
just a personality characteristic for the mostpart. Yeah, it's just people who
like value hard work, that thatthat get into it, and that you
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see that on both sides of thepolitical spectrum. I just definitely think it's
way more prevalent on the right ifbut it's not. But the thing is,
that's correlation, not cause a.There's nothing political about that. It's
just it's just a side effect ofthe fact that I think more people that
lean to the right. And noticeI said lean to the right. I
don't mean super right wing, noteven people who would even necessarily I don't
(47:15):
even call myself a Republican. Keepin mind, you're now right wing if
you just claim that a biological malebiological males. Correct, let's understand where
we're at. That's my exact terminology. So I would say that people who
lean to the right, those personalitytypes would lend themselves more to a lifestyle
that involves working out and were doinghard work. So yeah, I would
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say a majority of people that Isee in my industry would probably lean to
the right, but not by morethan eighty percent. No, I think
it's a bipartisan thing. It's not. It's there's nothing political about it.
There was just a cool There wasa wild study that was put out recently
how young men, young males aretrending more conservative totally. And it's really
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not that. You don't have tolook very far as to the rationale behind
that. I mean, they're stuckin essential education prisons with these nut job
teachers that are just foisting bs downtheir throat. I mean, my god,
it's crazy what's happening there. Andthen also I would say that there
is a movement among a generation ofkids that are getting into weightlifting at an
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earlier age than ever before. Imean, as you just pointed out,
weightlift, I mean fitness people,trainers. It wasn't even a thing until
like the mid to late nineties.Correct, So now you're seeing generations of
people get brought up well, youknow, going with their dad to the
(48:44):
gym or something like that and gettinginto a regiment, which hey I'm all
about. I mean, my god, this country's gotten so damn unhealthy,
obesity rape being what it is.You see these younger generations for all of
their faults. I mean, tosee trends moving in a good direction,
in my opinion, is something toapplause. Well, I mean, we
live in the information era. Informationis so easily and readily available, and
(49:06):
some of it doesn't require social mediaor a TV or any of the above.
It's just like observation. Little kidscan observe people older than them just
screwing up their lives and act behavingin the stupidest, most erratic ways,
and they can learn from that.Most of the kids that are really struggling
right now are because their parents arelike children themselves. Yes, I mean
(49:28):
it's insane to me the way theybehave online, the things that they do,
Like good lord, people's people ofall ages are really really easily manipulated
psychologically, And I think that themedia and just society as a whole,
as it pertains to the lessons thatthey've learned through the media, have there.
They are They're like children and they'vebeen manipulated to a point where they're
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living really stupid lifestyles and it showsup like those people are obviously failing at
everything that they do, and theyounger generation is seeing that, and it's
pretty easy to just look and say, Okay, they're what they're doing is
not working. I don't want tobe like them. Yeah, maybe if
parents like took twenty minutes out ofthere going a hike or a walk as
opposed to sitting there and filling theirbrains with crap like Kardashian nonsense stuff,
(50:15):
we could move the needle just ahair nice Flipperbeans said two other names that
are actually onto the Peterson and Roganthing. But Russell Brand, who's terrific.
I just watched a long inform interviewwith him and uh and Tucker Carlson,
which was great, and then AdamCarolla too. Corolla is terrific in
an industry that you can't even darechallenge some of the theories that he has.
(50:38):
And isn't it funny the dichotomy betweenhim and h Okay, so you
remember the Man Show, Yeah,Jimmy Jimmy Kimmel. The dichotomy between those
two guys whose careers basically started withThe Man Show, and they went in
polar opposite directions, I mean completelypolar opposite. Guy Jimmy kim Right who
(51:00):
put blackface on, who still hostsa nightly show on Yeah, if it's
still airing. I don't know.I thought they're all on strike, the
writers, the actors. Yeah,who knows. I don't know because I
don't pay attention. I got onemore marks before we head out. Yeah.
So, and I was born inninety nine, so my upbringing was
it was the food pyramid that wasthe thing. How much of that still
apply? Because I know that dietitianand science that all this stuff is ever
(51:22):
evolving. So all the stuff,all of the nutrition information predicated by the
FDA is pretty much garbage. Andthat's all capitalism too. It's just the
way, you know, they're thefood companies and the food manufacturers and stuff
are in bed with the government,and they basically determine, They determine what
the government tells you is good toeat. The good thing is is nobody
(51:45):
adheres to it like they tell,you know, the food pyramid or whatever
they even have now, I don'teven know what it is, but it's
garbage. I mean, it's alwaysand it always has been, and it
always will be. I think wealways we all know that if there's any
information coming from the the from directlyfrom the government, it's almost always garbage.
And that that obviously pertains to theFDA and food. The good thing
(52:07):
is is human beings don't. Americancitizens don't ever really adhere to it anyway.
So you learn about it a littlebit in school, But how much
of the crap you learn in schooldo you actually apply to your daily life.
Yeah, And I've noticed also thatwhen you look at the nutrition facts
of whatever sort of item you're aboutto eat, it has like grams of
sugar, grams of carbs, whatever. And then I'll put the percentage of
(52:29):
your daily total. How in thehell does that work? Because I'm six
four two h five nates less thanseven feet tall and yeah, yeah,
yeah, Like, so how doesthat percentage work because we're on two different
diets. Yeah, they're just goingoff of like the average average, I
guess, but the average man orwoman those are two well, you can't
(52:49):
even well, yeah, difference,don't assume the gin the average day,
sure, yeah, yeah, theaverage the average z zena. Those are
Leah Thomas's percentages, and we haveto work off of that. Here is
zz just have to ignore that stuffentirely, which which sucks because it is
a good you know, there couldbe good metrics there, but you just
have to know what macronutrients to consumeand how many calories to consume and customize
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it to yourself. And that's hardto do, which is why people like
me have jobs. Bingo, allright, Marcus, great chat, very
informative. Is always covering a lotof ground here on our third hour of
high noon on a Wednesday. Twopoint zero Training Systems and Webster Groves at
sidell Underscore nutrition on Instagram, reachout book your you know, first class
(53:36):
today over two point zero Training systemLet's do it. Change that attitude.
Can do it. I hate togive Nike credit, but just do it.
Was one of the best tag better. Couldn't be any more simple than
that, No question, by theway. Good one last thing, Happy
birthday to Bob Kuzy's ninety five TodayHey Wizard of Worcester. Dion Sanders fifty
six and Jerry Garci had died onthis day at the age of fifty three
(54:01):
in nineteen ninety five from a heartattack, So listen to some grateful debt.
It'll zen you out. I didn'tget into penn in barstool and ESPN
or anything like that today, butI got a lot of thoughts on that,
so we'll cover that tomorrow here onHigh Noon. Marcus. Good to
be with you, sir. Thankyou, Two Point Training Systems, Webster
Groves at Sidell, Underscore Nutrition onInstagram. Cool. Thanks man. Have
(54:21):
a great rest your Wednesday. TheBurning show up next.
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