Listeners play Stump the Rammer to win tickets to Mizzou football vs Memphis - Segment 3 - 8/10/23

Who is the most obscure former Cardinal you can come up with? You'll have to beat the Oakville Hoosier who stumped the Rammer!

Episode Transcript

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Back for more of High Noon withNate Lucas and Bob Ramson, old dumb

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and journalists. Who is that DanaWhite? Nice? Oh? Yeah?
I did? Was that recent?Yeah? I had something to do with
I think it was like Jake Paulor like people not respecting the the combat
sports. Give me more Dana Whiteperiod. That guy, he's all he

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cares about is growing the UFC brand. He does not care about any extra
motives, even when he's asked aboutit. He just completely dominates reporters when
they ask him bogus questions about thingsthat have nothing to do with the UFC.
And he is really good at takinga question and throwing it right back
at the reporter. And the UFChas been dominated. Look at their numbers,

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they're growing immensely. So we didn'treally talk well. I talked a
lot of baseball there in the openingsegment was a lovely segment. I was
listening and learned a lot. Ifelt like I just talked for forty minutes
straight. But how come cold didn'thelp? Well? I don't think he
felt like he had a way tobarge into my blabbering. Was it when

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he's on a roll and be ona roll. Okay. We talked initially
about the Cardinals, then when hebranched off into Major League Baseball at large,
he had a strude Okay, wetalked about how we don't care about
the Cardinals at this point in thisseason. I want the Gordonals to lose
every game from here on out becauseI want them to get a draft pick
that is, like in the topfive. Somebody could have been our pal
John Denton, somebody else maybe not. I shouldn't even mention his because I'm

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not sure if it was him ornot. About Rar says it might be
John. I think it was mLB, but it might have been a
national thing, one thing for everyteam's fans to watch for. What was
our So I scrolled through what what? What is here to watch for?
What's the thing for our fans tolook forward waiting for? When to arrive?
Yes? Is it right? Whenand if any other young guys come

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up and play, that's the thing, right? Well? Adam waynewright,
get his two? Come on?Where was this add? It was on
MLB? I think, oh mygosh, I'll look it up because I
should. I should be clear onmy attributions of it. But that's no
Nates, folks. Nate is literallylooking around for knitting needles to stick into

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his eyes. He can't take it. I mean, seriously, that was
national peace. That's just that's justbizarre to me. I mean, oh
my gosh, if if you haveto go through this sort of trouble to
get one man a milestone, whichtell me if I'm wrong. But I

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always thought it was three hundred wins. I mean, that was it.
Two hundred wins is a nice roundednumber that doesn't exactly stand out as,
oh, I don't know something thatI would wash another man's feet for now
in today's game, can you makean argument? You know how they always
talk about sixty five the new fifty, is two hundred the new three hundred

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because starters don't go as long,they don't get as many decisions, so
on and so forth as many innings. Could two hundred be the new three
hundred? Yeah, but until it'suntil that's really a thing, I don't
think we go there. And Waynostarted pitching in oh six, so long
time ago. That's a long timeago. I think this radical shift and

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pitchers not going deep into games hasbeen a trend, but it's not like
it arrived twenty years ago. Imean, well, he used to go
deep into games that wouldn't matter whenit mattered under Larusa and Duncan. But
then he should already he should probablyalready be a two hundred wins. It
just well he had those injury years. Well that's completely out. He'd probably

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have between twenty five and forty morewins. Well, what's gonna have?
Are we gonna start speaking tongues offire when he gets the two d?
Is the rapture gonna rise out ofthe mound at Bush Stadium? I mean,
I know again Christian Town against it. It will be on Belly' Sports
Midwest. I promise you that.You know, if it's amaze, if

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they tell me it's amazing when hegoes out there and gets hit like batting
practice, what the hell is itgonna be when he gets that two hundredth
win? Hey, he was amazing. Are they gonna stuff my TV with
confetti so it'll come blasting at mewhen he hits his two hundredth mark?
Is the confetti gonna be bought andpaid for by Ballis? Is somebody on
the broadcast is gonna call him ahall of Famer as he's walking off the
mound in line for his two hundredthwin. I'm telling you right now,

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and when he walks off the mound, there's gonna be a nice little ovation
for him. People might actually showup that day. But when he walks
out the mound and people are clapping, somebody in the ballet's broadcast, I
don't know who it's gonna be.Somebody's gonna make a reference to the Hall
of Fame. That's a that's alock. That's a mortal lock. You
bet that. What if? Whatif it's the last game of the season

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and Wayne Wright of course gets thenod because all glory goes to God,
and my goodness, there he iswayno out there, and he takes a
lead into the sixth inning. Hecomes off the mound and it's all gravy
and then that very capable Cardinals Bullpenand Plante and Jojo and JoJo's whip is

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less than one this year. JoJo'sgood and they cough it up in the
ninth inning or something. In someway it would be that would not be
surprised. A peaceful way to watchthis entire campaign come to a close.
Well, it would be the seasonin a microcosm, It's terrible. I'm
a half glass empty kind of guy. But I hope that, you know,

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whatever, get him the two hundredthvictory, I suppose. But to
think that anyone is sitting here likeanticipate, can't wait drooling for him to
get that two hundredth the sweater knittersand cookie bakers are. I promise you
there is a segment of Cardinal Nationthat is actually nervous about it, and

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you know, I gotta be there. What are we gonna do? I'm
telling you there's that group, andI'm not saying they're wrong. We've talked
about it before. It takes allkinds to be your cardinal Nation. I'm
okay with it. But to suggestthat there aren't those people, No,
there are, well, and knowthis too. The organization is desperately wanting
it so then they can have forthe foreseeable future. Adam Waynewright Commemorative five

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hundred or two hundredth Victory Pin Day, Adam Waynwright two hundredth Victory Commemorative five
year Anniversary Adam Waynewright ten year AnniversaryT shirt commemorating Adam Wayne Wright's two hundredth
victory. Well, you're just givenideas of the marketing department. Adam Wayne
Wright and Brendan Donovan co Bobblehead Night. I think I'm I mean, I'm

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sorry, Brendan Ryan is who Imeant to say, There'll be one.
I have a question I don't knowthe answer, which is bad lawyering.
I know why are we having aGary Guy Eddi bobblehead Night. I liked
Gary Guy Eddie I did two greatguy, good ball player? Was he

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here two years? Was that itin the early nineties? Let me look
it up, late mid to lateninety played for Larus Russia eight. Yeah,
because I think he caught the tail. I think he was there for
the beginning of McGuire. I believethat's correct. Let's just double check.

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But I don't never trust my memoryever to your original point though, two
and a half seasons, two anda half seasons he was. He was
moved to the Cubs in the middleof ninety eight. So it's okay,
as you point out great guy,and uh, you know he was pretty

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good at eighty RBIs that first yearhere? That was good? Twenty one
homers? But are we just doingrandom guys, or do we I suspect
there is a fable head manufacturer somewhere, probably in China, and somebody's going
down and goes, you know,they just make all these babbles, and

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somebody goes, who does that looklike? You know what? That looks
a little like Gary Guy Eddie?Call the Cardinals, Ye call the Twins.
So whoever bikes first gets the GaryGuy Eddie bab You know, are
we are? We? Are wegonna go back? And I mean,
who who's next? If if ifGary gets a babble ahead? Knight?

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And how far back is? Howfar back in history are we gonna go?
I mean, are we gonna go? Roger Freed babble ahead? You
guys don't even know him. He'sa great pinch hitter, big thick guy,
unbelievable triple A player, did okayin the in the big leagues,
but a tremendous pinch hitter. RogerFried Knight? What what are we doing?

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Why are babbleheads still even a thingthat people want to acquire? They
literally collect us, They do nothing, and some nerds don't even take them
out of the box because they can'tcollect sports ours like Jay Leno or Jerry
Seinfeld. So they go with thatMaide in China Dolls. Yeah, I'm
gonna parlay this topic. But beforeyou go onto that, do we know

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if there was a better reason?I mean, is there a hey,
you know X and X y Zis happening and so we need to do
that with a Gary bubblehead? Wasthere a reason if they had leftovers in
the store to check my intel insidethose walls? Yeah? Is it because
it's his birthday? But a lotof ex Cardinals had birthdays. I keep

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in mind we are just a weekshy of celebrating Emo night at the ballpark,
so you know by cardinal romance.Yeah, so we are really pulling
for some stuff out there. Duringthe break, I had mentioned to you
I have a complete wiping of memorycells. That Troy Perceval pitch for the
Cardinals. I remember it fondly.Why are we gonna have a Troy Perceval

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bubblehead? Let's do it. Hewas actually better, He had a really
good year. I'm all for it, Okay, I would like it.
With that high leg kit cole Man'sthigh was as large as my entire body.
Called Beijing. See if they've gotsome in the warehouse that look like
Troy Perceval, cold Beijing. I'mgonna dieal that. Let me dial Beijing

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now on the air. Actually,I'm gonna parlay this topic into a promotion.
We are giving away two tickets toMissoo at the Loo Oh Missoi and
Memphis, taking place Saturday, Septembertwenty three. We're giving away two tickets
text in the most obscure cardinal thatyou can think of right now and whoever
it comes up with the most randomformer Cardinals player. We're gonna give away

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two tickets the Missoo game. Well, Doug, I want you to see
if you can stump me. Yeah. If you get stump Rammer, you
get it immediately. We're not gonnatake it. I am not infallible.
I already admitted I forgot Troy Perceval. Who's good. Yeah, Mikey Boy
says, maybe they're hoping the wholetown of Centrailia will show up for Gary.
You know what, maybe a Centraliaunite at the ballpark that could be

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See that's a good reason. Dowe do that reason? Did the Cards
the big leagues? Did the bigleague team do that? Like in Springfield
we'd have nicks and Night and BolivarNight and it was the same shirt.
It was just the town was riptedaround the bat. And I mean it
was like, okay, this isso sales. Yeah, hey we got

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nine hundred tickets from Nicks of thatnight. Bob. I saw Richie Allen's
name pop up on Twitter. Doyou know why he had spent one season
with the Cards? He had astat standpoint, what was here? Here
is what I've heard, And it'sfunny you bring that up. It's this
happens when you get old boys.That question of Richie Allen has been bothering

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me for decades and really bothering mein the last couple of weeks. Isn't
that a bizarre thing to be botheredby? Well, it should be in
the Hall of Fame in my opinion. Well, he was unbelievable, ye,
I mean, we're talking sixty yearsago, one year with the Cardinals
played. You have to check mein. There's one hundred and twenty one
game something like that, hit thirtybombs at cavernous Busch Stadium and or that

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season, you know, and thendidn't really play the last six weeks.
The only guy I know still around, but he was just a kid.
Then I've got to call Al Robotskiand ask him. The general feeling has
always been that Richie Dick Allen marchedto a different drummer and was two out

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there for Red and being divine andthe cardinal brass and staff to deal with.
They didn't know how to deal witha modern guy. And then some
people even put the racial tone intoa modern black man and how to year
nineteen seventy, how to work withhim and that sort of thing, and

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how to make him be comfortable andhappy and blah blah blah. Well,
they moved him to the Dodgers.He had an okay year, then he
goes to the White Sox as anMVP. It was one of the deals
that, in theory, led tothe demise of the Cardinals for a decade
in the seventies. I've always saidthree moves you you were well four really,

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you don't trade Bobby Toling to theReds Vada Pince and you keep Tolling,
You keep Dick Allen, you keepSteve Carlton, you keep Jerry Royce,
and you have a minimum of twopennance in the seventies, maybe as
many as four, So I wantto find out. It's a great point.
It's the same who sent that thatwas no name I've lost. That's

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all right, it's a really goodquestion, Bill Hoosier, Oakville Hoosier,
and I think it's a great question. And I've always he's kind of hurting
those things. I will call Hungoand see if I can get a first
person. Here's what I saw,because so many other people that I would
ask now are already dead, BrickHummel and Mike Shannon and Jack Buck and

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people that were around other players,Brock and Gibson, people that I know.
And I would think with a grouplike Brock and Gibson and Tory,
that those guys would be peers ofDick Allen and that it shouldn't have been
a problem. Three strong personalities thatknew what it took to win. So

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I don't know the answer, butI will find out. Why did they
trade Jerry Royce contract Gussie said no, You're out? Was Gussie cheap?
He was generous, but he didn'tlike the players wanting more and he was
a generous person. Flood, Yeah, he was a generous person. But

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here's generous to say here's what I'mpaying. You be thankful, and you
say no, I need two thousandmore. You're gone just that fast,
that fast with a couple of guys. It was we've had three different people
submit the exact same player for themost secure Cardinal of all the time that
they're trying to stump him on.It's Scipio Spanks. Sipio Spinks not stumped.

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Scipio Spinks came over in a greatdeal from the Astros and maybe was
going to be great. He maybewas going to be great. He had
already got a little bit of acult following with Cardinal fans because he had
he carried around. Uh. Ithink it's a was a stuffed gorilla or
something's chimp called he called No,I think he called Mighty Joe Young.

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Didn't he that he called Bobbo?I don't think so. That's from Dougs
Danglar Diner says, Scipio Spinks andhis chimp Bobbo. Yeah, I don't
think he called it that. Butanyway, and then he slid into home
play and it just shattered his legand he never was the same. Wow,
that is amazing. I've never heardthat name Scipio Spinks was. People

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think he might have been great hadhe's not blown up his legs. Sliding,
of all things. That's how hedid it. Yeah, sliding into
home many Scipio Spinks. Brian Horrellsays, Fernando Vellezuela, well everybody knows
him. Yeah. Jose Cruise.Jose Cruise ended up being a non twenty

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home run clean up hitter for theAstros, and actually they went to the
playoffs. That's another guy they probablyshould have kept. He was a part
time platoon guy kind of for theCardinals, had one decent year, they
moved into the Astros and he becamea mainstay for them for a decade and
really a great run producer and latera coach. I believe Jose Cruise was

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on the staff in Houston for along time, and Jose Cruz Junior was
a good player too. Jose Cruiz. If you to look at some of
the guys you had and probably couldhave or should have kept, Bobby told
that you brought up you know,because we think about Randy Rosen Reina and
Dalla's Perez and those kind of guys, you probably should have kept him.
You probably should have kept Bake McBride. You probably should have kept Jerry Mumfrey.

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Who am I forgetting Jim here there? They all went on to have
good careers with other clubs, andyou just and you kept kind of spinning
your wheels in the seventies, justjust want you know, not. You
look at him, you go,well, he's a good player. But
is it a franchise guy. No, But if you put eight good players

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out there, you're gonna be good. Yeah. Eric pappas bab ahead night
third string catcher. Come on,baby, Roger Freed. I'd mentioned Roger
Freed before, and I forgot totalk to Mike Claiborne, who would absolutely
remember. I think it was RogerFreed. Jim Ure who keep walking in
the hallway, didn't Roger Freed gettinga brawl and chase down, says Arcadenio.

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Was a brawl with the Astros.It sounds right and pretty good highway.
Yeah. And and Roger was agreat pinch hitter, but I think
he's remembered for literally chasing another playeraround the field three or unfortunates. The
Cardinals used to be a very goodteam and also a very good marketing team.
And the Cardinals are now our greatmarketing system and a baseball team is
an afterthought not interested. Well,I agree in the vacuum of this season,

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yes, and the problems that arehappening this season, we've now looked
back and forensically seen that it's beenthree, four or five years coming.
We didn't really see it then becauseOkay, well they'll make this move and
kind of get over the hump.And I think the Cardinals diluted themselves into

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thinking that would work, and finally, finally the the chickens are home to
roost. Jeremy Hayes Baker hazel Bakerstarted out like a house of fire.
What year would that have been?Sixteen? Was it twenty sixteen? He
it looked like he was gonna begood, didn't it. He kind of

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remind you a little bit, maybenot quite as athletic as uh as Newt.
Tall, rangy guy with some powercould run a little bit. If
I recall, it was like aRyan Ludwick two point zero. Yeah,
kind of not quite as good.No, Ludwick was a good player,

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it was hazel Baker. Hazel Bakerhad forty six pinch hit appearances that year.
But here's the thing, you know, what a guy like Hazel Baker.
You see, that's when the Cardinalsthey used to do a great job
of finding pinch hitters because in theNational League before he had the DH,
it was really a pivotal, criticalaspect of your roster. Yeah, double
switch, baby, And they werealways able to find those guys Specie No.

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Six. I mean, my goodness. You know, hey, all
the way back to the sixties whenI really started paying attention. If you
go back some not Baseball Reference,but you probably can. Can you find
pinch hitting numbers on Baseball Reference?Yeah, for for anybody, you can
find him. Yeah, okay,but it used to be a be a
category in the Baseball Encyclopede. Andyou go back and you look at Oh

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my god, this guy hit fivehundred pinch hitting and blah blah blah.
But at the end of his careerwhen he was back with the Cardinals,
Red Shandings was a great pinch hitter. Vic Davolio. There's one I bet
I stumped some people with in theearly seventies, an unbelievable pinch hitter.
I mentioned Roger Freed. Go backand look at Dane Orange Orge Io RG

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Dane Orge Tito Landrum, and youknow, you kind of go through and
at your point, the Cardinals founda way to have good guys coming off
the bench, and now it's like, well, these are just the extra
guys. These are the guys thatwe like a lot, but they're not
good enough to crack the starting nineright now. So we're just going to
bury him on the and ask atwenty two year old to pinch hit something

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his life. Yeah, Craig Paquette, Sean Dunson, Oh, Paquette was
good. You know, he gotthat free agent deal with the Tiger.
I believe LaRussa begged him to comeback. Tony really wanted to come back.
I got to know Craig a littlebit. Unbelievable guy. I think
he played more probably than he wasa pinch hitter. But Abraham o'noon yez,

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yeah, An, they're good.Yep, versatile utility player red hit
three ten as a pinch hitter inhis career. Yeah, there you go,
there you go. I'm sorry,that was alright. Three zero four.
Mike from Oakville says, have JayRod night, What do you think
Jay Rod is doing this day?Who is that he talks about? Sean
rogue. He came up and latein the season, just out of nowhere,

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he was probably like a twenty sixyear old minor league veteran, came
up and this is off top ofmy head. So people can get stats
and correct me along the way.I would appreciate it, actually, But
he came up and got red hot, and they put him in the lineup
and he was going nuts, andso very quickly we all started calling him
jay Rod, which really pissed offhe hated. He even put jay Rod

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on his cleats because Tony said hehadn't earned that character nickname. And then
Marty Kilcoin is the one who askedTony about jay Rod, what's what would
you call him? And he goahead and larusa off the top of his
head with we probably have it inthe system somewhere. He goes, what
would you call him, Tony?And Tony goes about about Johnny Load Johnny.

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That's when he came up with offthe top of his head, and
everybody just died laughing. It wasso funny. But the reason he didn't
like it was to be, youknow, because a Rod was one of
the all time greats, and hedidn't think that that Rodriguez had earned that
Johnny new jay Rod earned his nicknamein his first year. Holy well different

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did he earn it or did heget it? Well, it's a different
game now. It's all about theyoung stars. They come up and they
take over and they're put on allthese marketing plans. But Jay Rod was
He was nice guy, a reallygood guy. It was it was fun
and Larissa actually made it. Hewasn't trying to, but made it fun
er. Glenn Brummer, that's fromRob stealing home long Bob Roman stealing home

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trip Crumber. How about three fingerMordecai Brown, Oh yeah, he literally
had three fingers. Yes. Josede Leone, who was the guy Jose
de Leone who was a really niceman but a born loser. He had
He's Johannoviato. Unbelievable stuff but fineways to lose now. But if you

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go there and look he had,he had one really terrific year. But
and it wasn't he He pitched well, but like a bobbled. But he'd
bobbled a bunt and that guy wouldend up scoring or he wouldn't get over
and cover first, you know,just he'd do these little he'd find ways

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to lose games even when he wasabout Felix Jose. Felix Jose was a
guy that was kind of scary.He was a scary presence in the clubhouse.
But he could hit Joey dives in, Dylan Carlson, which I actually
appreciate that terrific. Hector Luna,Hector Luna. I thought he would be

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good. I thought he was gonnabe pretty good. John Curtis, John
Curtis, left handed pitcher, Ithink came over from the Giants, had
a modicum of success. How aboutRon Hunt. Ron Hunt from Winsville,
Missouri. The late Ron Hunt wasgodd I don't know if he still holds

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the record, but for a whileheld the record for hit by pitch and
and had one of the great youthbaseball organizations in this part of probably the
Midwest. He was a hard,no scrappy SLB, but he could coach
the game. And I know anumber of guys that played for him.

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He was a tough guy, butman, they learned how to play the
game. He played a little bitfor the Cardinals, had really good success
with the Giants and Expos. SteveBraun, Oh, everybody Steve Brown,
another one of the great pinch hitters. Frank Lindsay, I am Frank Lindsay
was a dominant reliever with the Giantsand came over to the Cardinals and was

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kind of in that early seventies malaise. They had all these guys that were
good somewhere else or we're gonna begood somewhere and couldn't quite put the puzzle
together. The Rubiks, they couldn'tget the Rubiks cube with a bullpen figured
out. Terry Robinson, Karen Robinson, he's Saint Louis. Guy's a good
buddy. Still involved a lot ofout of Cardinal's care, Cardinal's care.

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Maybe Carrie's a wonderful guy, reallyreally good guy. I kind of this
is gonna I kind of feel likemy time with the Cardinals. I was
kind of a broadcasting version of CarryRobinson. Got there, couldn't quite get
into a starting position for a fewyears, and then just kind of disappear.

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You do you think that's an okayanalogy? Sally, I'm the Carry
Robinson of Cardinal broadcasters. What wasit in three day, three nights in
August? I forgot what had adust up with about he made it out
at third base. I think,oh yeah, yeah, and Larusa was
pissed. Craig and Baton Rouge Ididn't even know we had Ron Ron Fairly.

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Ron Fairly was sweet. He cameup with the Dodgers and was a
terrific left handed hitter. Not aton of power, you know, playing
from Dodger Stadium then it was.It was not a home run place.
Cookie Rojas, well, let mefinish with Robins. Sorry, no,
I was short of him you're talkingabout, by the way, that's Octavio
Rojas anyway. Uh. Fairly thencame over and was kind of a platoon

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guy with the Cardinals and the exposreally a sweet left handed hitter. Rojas
inn fielder with the Phillies and cameback and probably had his best year.
I can't remember he was traded forHe was an expansion picked by the Royals,
but ended up having a real goodyear with those early Royals teams right

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after expansion. But he was hewas. He was a very competent second
baseman in the big leagues for probablya dozen years. I'm gonna intentionally mispronounce
his Barry lairsh Verry Lurch. Ionly remember him with the Phillies. Oh,
we might have a winner. Imight not have a memory. We
have to take his baseball references memoryblackout. You might have got me?

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Is it? There's a Lurch andthere's a lursh he one game with the
Cardinals and I missed it. Thereyou go, all right, we just
got we gotta take it. OakvilleHoosier, you're going to the Missoo Memphis
game. We find well well done. What was the name Oakville Hoosier?
No, no, no, no, what was the name of player?
Barry Larsh Barry Larch? I writePhillies though, Yes, yeah, here's

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what we got on one game.Come on. Oakville started as a starter
for the most part the early seventies, then kind of transitioned to the bullpen,
and then he had one game withthe Cardinals and that was it.
Nineteen seventy four at twenty nine yearsof age. And and I was a
hardcore as as nerdy as I amnow, I was really hardcore then.

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So that's a good oak Pille.You got me, that's a good one.
I just saw a name that isa flashback Sterling Hitchcock Kitcher who had
a cup of coffee and oh threewith Saint Louis not not not good,
not great, but he was goodfor a while with the Yankees for ye
here years. I guess, solidcareer, solid career. Well that's good

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stuff with Cole. You knew youopened a Pandora's box and we gave boy
tickets. That was a fun wayto do it. So that's for the
Missoo Memphis game. Ye, andwhat you got a date on that September
twenty third, I believe it's weekfour at the Dome at the Dome at
America Missoo of the loop, Well, well done. Congratulations to the Oakville
Hoosier. Yeah, he stumped theRammer, which is a segment I realized

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that we probably should have been doingfor months by now, because I was
rapid fire, rapid fun, andthe listeners were engaged. Tim Jones and
infielder in nineteen ninety did he hitleft handed? Well that I thought you
had in front of you, Yeah, Tim Jones, he was an next
little middle infielder. Jermaine Curtis.I don't know that name. I thought

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that was a running back. Itsounds like a running back. Jermaine Ohio
State probably got three years in theleague. Joe, Jermaine Curtis, Martin
jammed up his knee, faded out. I like to get names and what
kind of images it It vokes whenyou don't know, you have no idea.
Holy cow, Jermaine Curtis. Allright, five games, three at

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bats? What year twenty thirteen?Don't well, you guys should remember him.
I don't remember that pinchheader and leftfielder Jermain Curtis. No, I
missed that one. All right,let's look up this twenty thirteen Cardinals.
That week thirteen was a good year. They went to the World Series.
Yeah, thanks to Mike Matheny.We have we have a handful of names
from this twenty thirteen team that I'venever heard of before. Rob Johnson a

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catcher, Yeah, I remember him. Adrian Chambers. Oh, Adrian Chambers.
Adrian Chambers. Oh, and thatwas he? Was he right there
at the end when they had thosebig comebacks. Was he part of that
Squirrel game or was that the nextgame or the game before? Oh,
he got a rally Squirrel game.It was a walk off where he was
the winning ruck. Yeah, I'veseen that clip. I get shoot it.

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The stuff from the sixties. Iremember better than ten years ago.
Brock Peterson, UH utility player,Ryan Jackson, Jermaine Curtis, another catcher,
Audrey Perez. I remember that name. What happened in thirteen? I
guess that means Molina got hurt.We have Molina, Tony Cruz, Rob

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Johnson, and Audrey Perez. TonyCruz. Solid was the guy ever quite
kind of on the Andrew Kissner.Yeah, it wouldn't quite get that any
of those. Oh, just aboutall those names ring a bell about Audrey
Perez. You know, they'd oftenbring up an extra catcher down the stretch
in September. Hey, Solid,youres talking about Adrian Chambers and that in

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those comeback games. Was that thesquirrel Rally Squirrel game or was that a
separate game you remember? I thinkwith Chambers that was a separate game.
He played a key role in thegame where I believe it was Berkman or
somebody had the triple. And thenobviously Chambers was active for Game seven of
the World Series when Matt Holliday hadgotten hurt. Mikel Klayto, I remember

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that right handed pitcher. Oh yeah, he was actually the one acquired for
Brendan Ryan, and I had myfavorite random cardinal bat of the thousand,
Manny Lee, Manny Lee. Iwouldn't have gotten that one nineteen ninety five,
starting second baseman on opening day andthat first at bat was his only
at bat. That's a great one. Sally. You would have stumped me,
but I'm not surprised that you wouldhave stumped me. Yeah, Sally

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is like the altar. This islike Sally's ultimate game. I think,
I think, I think I canhang with Sally in the sixties and seventies
and maybe the fifties, but thenineties and two thousands, I can't hang
You got me there, I surrenderChambers. Was the game against the Cubs
a wild pitch? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Was it?
I thought, maybe I'm thinking ofeleven when for Calls scored a game winning

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run from third base on a wildpitch, But I'm sure that were I
don't know. I can't remember whatI did earlier today. So that was
impressive. I am genuinely impressed.Bob Ramsey, You're like an encyclopedia over
there. No, not really,you know, it would be fun to
do that sometime and go to whereI don't have any firsthand knowledge and just
out of looking at the Baseball EncyclopedianBaseball reference the thirties, forties, even

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the twenties, thirties, forties,and fifties, some of them, you
know, some like here's one.I might have mentioned this if I mentioned
this the other day. Forgive menineteen thirty the Cardinals. Every regular hit
three hundred in our lineup in nineteenthirty. Isn't that insane. That's a
great lineup. That's a great lineup. Building with the third we'll tell you

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that this is a great lineup.I've heard that. Yeah, it's a
lie. Is not a great lineup. As you pull us back to your
reality, welcome back to twenty twentythree Cardinals. Thank you. Yeah,
it's not nineteen thirty anymore. WhereSunny Juice excursion through some of the great

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no name players that brought us goodmemories along the years and now crashing into
twenty twenty three, and there willbe names that years exactly. I was
like, there are there are innames from this roster that waylor matter Kidd
recall in games like this fifty yearsfrom now, U what about Lehigh and

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Tapara to Paris? The number one. I mean Ryan Tapara, the in
and out veteran leadership. That's whythey said. They said they brought him
in the Actually they said that hesaid was gonna veteran leadership. So Genesis
could we have to recap this whichwas like two weeks ago. But remember
Genesis, Cabrera got a DFA forbeing a mal content so they could trade

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him. That opened up a spoton the roster. They signed Ryan Tapara.
They say it's for veteran leadership theregular season, throughout the season,
and he's gone within three days leadershipwell, and he completely changed the culture.
We need one seminar, one lockerroom meeting. They also said Trace
Berrera was the leadership guy. Allright, what did they say about him?

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He was? He was the rara he came in. It was
like mister like Skippy and the rarack guy and the cheerleader. As you
just said, why shooting would itbe? It goes against everything they believe
in many clubs, in many sports. By the way, if you ask

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why Berrera in either mo or Alior somebody's skills, Come on, man,
we need a guy, We neededa body, give me a break.
Would we would we be mad athim for that or would we go
yeah, okay, because you're theguy, you're always looking to take that
shot. Well, what was thething they got their hands covering? But

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you're looking to fight an opening ifit's like the twenty six guy in your
roster, Okay, I understand.You gotta have a guy. They've got
twelve guys on their team that arejust bodies. So it's relative to what's
going on. Yes, okay,if you were sixty, if you were
sixty five and fifty, I'd haveall sorts of grace in terms of some

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players that I get you gotta bringup. I mean, look that thirteen
roster. You just mentioned five orsix guys that nobody in the World Series,
and they went to the World Series, so something. You know,
it takes a village. But whenyour regulars are guys that we will laugh
about in a decade, that's aproblem. And that's why you're fifteen games.

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No, Mercado was my guy.He should have been up from day
one. Yeah, so the otherguys could play in the minors. Your
credit. You said that before springtraining ended, you had it drilled the
entire time. Instead, we sateverybody on the bench. Now, I
know he wasn't great. That's thepoint. Sit his butt on the bench
until the day you need him,instead of having a prospect. Sit on

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the bench until you're or you're takingthe bats away at bats away from somebody.
Probably good because you need to getso and so at bats. Well,
No, he should be getting himat Memphis every day. Let Mercado
waste on the bench. He's nota prospect anymore. I can't wait for
Jose for me and babble ahead nighttwenty years from now. I mean,

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how about next month. Guys inBeijing's warehouse they found it for mean,
look like exactly this little side notefrom last night's game, that that ball
that Walker ripped to the right side, that got through the first baseman's glove.
Every time that I see Walker hita ball, you know, that
hard that hits the ground, itjust makes me think of, well,

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he's got to hit the ball inthe air more, hit it up,
get it up, Come on,it's not gonna get the job done.
I think, basically ripped through thefirst baseman's glove. Who was that,
Franco or Yonder? Who plays it? Yondi Diaz? Oh maybe it was
Anyah. That ball was absolutely rippedoff the bat of Walker. But it's

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fair to be critical of Walker,but I don't think for a launch angle,
hey recognize breaking balls. He's gota recognize if you throw Jordan Walker
a slider lowing away, it isgoing to be unsightly with he's twenty one.
But that's what he's got to learn. So nobody's mad at him for
it. Yeah, Now, no, in two years if it's still happening,

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yes, maybe even six months,eight months, but no, So
that that's one thing. And thenif you're gonna hit it on the ground
all the time, which I'm finewith, you got to hit it hard.
Soft contacts not acceptable for a guywith those kind of tools. Hundred
would you agree? Yeah, Iagree. But one hundred and six miles

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an hour off the bat, I'lltake that all day on the ground and
it resulted in a couple of runs. Are hard. No matter where it
goes, it's probably getting down.If you hit it on the ground one
hundred and six miles an hour everytime. I know that's that's not realistic,
but I'm saying if you do,you probably hit three thirty one hundred
and six miles an hour on theground. You hit three thirty three fifty
you would one other side note,well, really a couple Nolan Arnato grounded

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into a double play last night.And if there is ever an example of
a Cardinal not running the first base, he gave up on it. You
might want to just use that asexample A, B, and C,
which I'm not here to complain aboutit. I just want to make sure
that when Cardinals fans or the managerjumps on the next guy who wasn't hustling

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or something, that we keep itfair game for making sure that everybody gets
called out for these infractions. AndI love my professor, Yeah, we
both do. My take on himis he's really an emotional player. He
gets really ticked off and down onhimself when he doesn't do well. Okay,

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Having said that, it's not anexcuse not to run a ball.
You gotta run. I understand whyyou don't, why you're mad at yourself,
why you're throwing your helmet. Iget it, But it's not an
excuse. Is that fair? Yep? I would agree with you. All
right. It is almost two twentyhere. We have closed in on the
third hour, taking you up tillthree. The Bernie Show coming up next.

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Obviously, when we come back,I want to play a couple of
audio soundbites from Bernie's opening monologue yesterdaywhere he just absolutely dissected really the epitome
of the problem with this ball cluband how it has just become a complete
train wreck. So we'll hear someof that when we return with Bobar Amzy
and Colbart. Teamis. I'm NateLucas. Congratulations to the Oakville Hoosier.

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He's going to the game. He'sgoing to Massouda, the Lou Mazoda,
the Lou and the Dome. Septembertwenty three, Tigers and the Tigers.
Yeah, right back after these words,