June 20, 2024 • 48 mins
En el primer episodio de Hija de Lucero Mundo acompañades, tenemos el pacer de compartir espacio con Eli y su proyecto 6 vueltas. Hablamos de todo y más, y a ese todo nos entregamos en este episodio cargado de reflexiones, crticas, autocriticas y mucho humor.
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Oh hello hello, my mother ofmy life. How good you are to
another daughter of the world being ifyou hear strange noises, you have to
say all this is a very naturalpodcast. So like life like us.
Today I am happy as a wormbecause look at a guest who I love
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very much throw yourself home. Yeah, it' s clear how it'
s not gonna look. Hellos,good morning. Listen to the bugs.
We' re here experimenting because we' re both totally analog. I mean,
I' m in a world thatdoesn' t belong to me.
I' m appropriating it. Littleby little. We' re going to
take it from the machirulos who puton microphones and pretend they have podcat Yes,
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we do have welcome, welcome,welcome. I' m excited,
happy, tired. Now we doa check- up on how we'
re doing. This is an importantepisode, and if I do, he
' s gonna start coming every Fridayif he wants to. This is free
proposed. That way, I'll make you such a mother. Mine
is waiting for the mic to godown a little bit. I think it
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sounds good and today I have avery heavy guest I love you know that
I love that people define themselves anddescribe themselves. I don' t like
writing people mela to me I don' t do it or who Elli is
and what are you doing here Hello. I' m Eli Elisabeth, my
mother. My name is because Iwanted a princess, I was a son
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or Cristina like the infanta. Howstrong, yes, yes, yes,
and is a princess and girl comingout? How strong? And nothing?
I' m a very normal andordinary woman, not at all, well.
Not me in the day to day, yeah, I mean, I
' m very Urbalite. I thinkI give you a lot more Indian lives
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than I later am. Actually youthink, yes, no, you shed
a lot of light, a lotof me unless we have everyone. Yeah,
I' m a mess. No, you can' t like it.
It' s also weird, butI saw theélie I said uf
how to shine. I love it, I love it and I love it.
I swear to you, I admirepeople that I am able to see
lights, aura darks and I reallypromise because I' m a fucking naive
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woman and so you go I swearto you this I don' t know
how you do it or what giftyou have. I' d love to
have a course on this if youcould learn, but I think without Nato
I' m telling you no,too. I think there are people who
vibrate, who have as energy,have light, the way to move too.
The thought is that everyone backs up. I think it' s all
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passed on to a body. Everything, everything, everything, you know if
there are people who are very,very dark, very you don' t
like. For example, I don' t always trust my instinct because there
are people you know you don't like. Auntie. When someone doesn
' t like you, there aretimes that are prejudices, social constructions,
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total traumas not. No, notthe first one either, but it'
s true that in the fifty orseventy percent of the times when I don
' t like someone, there's something aunty and and it' s
worth a first feeling you' regoing to give it a chance. Yeah,
but what' s so famous andthat we' re making so many
pangles this red flam so much refla. You have to take full notice,
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you have to do the body.He doesn' t lie and I told
you light, light and I wantto see me because you started to screw
up, we lost then I lovedto guide, yes, long life,
guide, please, if bat guidethat fucks you all, everyone fucks up
the car, tune ran to fuckup. And I had a problem with
her because when I started to likeher I started to like her and she
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was like an aunt a lot ofblack people, my face around me,
she was very antiracist. Or obviously, I don' t stay with people
who aren' t. Obviously,there are no messages like that and they
told me it' s that MrsPro is her own. Yeah, and
I don' t know. Yeah, I' m getting into an eggplant
that' s gonna piss me off, but I like it. I love
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her and she looks like a goddessto me. I' m telling you,
wow, I open a melon.Yes, of course to the good
appropriation I warn that I am aperson that I am not expert in anything
or I have learned from everything andteacher of nothing I love, but the
appropriation is that we are appropriating allday of things to that yes how many
times I say with all my pussyof the venison in Pa rest and I
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am not a trans woman for example, I know maybe I make things up
a lot, eh, but justas it is my extremist for some opinions,
I am also like very open ofgood. Kari, yeah, I
think there are situations like very obviousor very expensive. For example, I
don' t care. I'm used to it, but I nati
lint can' t. I justcan' t because she' s so
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brazen. The lint nati is verybrazen. He took over the theme of
all the vipes, all the energy, all the music, the lyric,
the movement, the voice of ablack woman. I don' t remember
what the name is now. I' ll put it on top. We
' ll have this and I'll put it on top. Then I
' ll have to catch the human. I' m filming when I'
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m looking for things in gugle,but yeah, it' s like a
little bit of a face with some. Not now, because it' s
over. Like the trend, thisone has as its stage all the singers.
To see it is rich, ofcourse, it does not have to
stand out exactly, but it istrue that it is as you say,
there are cultural appreciations and of courseeverything is not black white and I think
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you learn it a little when youcome out of activism very very, very
radical. It' s not allblack white and there' s tones.
Yeah, and I believe and totaltiredness this we' ve been talking about
a little bit before we start.Yeah, I don' t think I
told you. I' ve forgotten20 years old that you want to eat
the world. S spoiler, Ihave thirty that you want to eat the
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world and you want to raise yourvoice of the subject, that is when
they come to give you sticks,when they don' t listen to you,
when they demand that what you sayyou are such a child you don
' t know how many. Thereare times when activism tires. Yeah,
it' s exhausting and above all, and that' s something I'
ve learned a lot about the bad. I' m sorry, I'
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m not so sorry. I thoughtthat everything and I' m here because
of a white woman who I lovevery much, I still wait for you
friend, but I used to havethis idea that all the black people around
me were activists. I don't know what else. She was super
good, super good, super deconstructed. We had the same signs and white
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people bad for experiences I had.Obviously, not everyone has their downfall,
but the reality is that there arepeople in very bad black and that there
are people in black who are inthe world of activism for their What'
s called this when you have asa girl this that their needs interests is
the word. When you have theirinterests you know and don' t look
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beyond and appropriate from or see theprofession that you have very big and appropriate
x social struggles and go in tobe able to shine because maybe in or
have light or come out, becauseshadows come out of patriarchy racism or supermas,
etcetera. And at some point,they have like this window and they
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come out and they don' tbelieve in activism as such, they don
' t believe in the struggle,they believe in their interests and they appropriate,
they profit. And a lot ofpeople don' t do it and
you learn it the hard way,because you come with this ideal of ay
is that people don' t havea lot of white people who do want
to build themselves, they do wantto learn and there are good people aunty.
You have to do what you can, because in the end we do
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what we can. This is whatthe bad ones learned, but it'
s true we all do what wecan least stay and do what you can
in terms of society and IT andso on. Because you' re your
internal struggle and your internal moves,too. Yeah,' cause you can
' t be every day you getup with your right foot. It can
' t be every day how coolthis is I' m going to put
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you in an eggplant because that youwake up one after you get up with
your right foot means that if yougo with your right, you' re
going to do well what a horror. I don' t think it'
s gonna kill the interfront or ifit doesn' t get the likes up.
No publicity. It' s bad. Oh, my God, I
' m sorry you got up onyour feet. Not specific which doesn'
t happen to you every day andmaybe you have your move, you fight
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your mother, your partner, yourfather. Whatever it is and maybe,
that day you' re not goingto pass on to yourself and you have
to keep that in mind. Yeah, and every day you can' t
be fighting. That being said,how are you today? I' m
very happy today. It' sthe first time I' ve done anything
like that. I' m alittle nervous, and yes, I'
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m happy today. I' mrunning here that yesterday I opened an instagram
and so on and it gets youemotional and I can define that I,
in general, am in bubbles.Yeah, and being in a bubble is
fine with me right now, andI' m a bubble that maybe right
now is recording this with you,and it makes me very happy. Ah
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it sounds terrible already, but welllet' s good, let' s
do more, doing. I maybe in a bubble now that I'
m very happy here with you,but in my bare, sad situation,
I' m terrible. I havea problem with the knee of a young
person who has to operate on me. I' m not making normal life
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because I' m super sedentary.I' m taking kilos, I'
m being pressured by the relevant dockersto drop pounds when I' m making
a sedentary life and I' mwaiting for an operation that, if it
doesn' t happen, I'm going to keep taking all the time.
No, but while what happens,they spend little things like doing this,
like crochet, which is what isnow saving my life. And all
that, because I get into thosebubbles and I' m being happy for
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moments. That' s very good. I mean, we' re doing
it. You want to tell meabout your project now after, you want
when you want this, this isright now. If you want to go
well, then the ELI is ina project that I love and has a
lot to do and we haven't also partly counted on the space that
is taking us, the Foundry,which is a cooperative space of women entrepreneurs,
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totally self- managed, a superf space, super free. In
fact, today is something super interesting, because if you want to participate and
you want to come, every Fridaythey have as a collective meeting with all
the associations that collaborate, collective andpeople And listen you have nothing to do
or you don' t have toeat, that this is important. And
it' s never said if I' ve been very hungry come and see
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that the doors open and you're welcome here. We have a community
boat, because hellowe in case anyonewants to punch, but it' s
not mandatory and you do a lotof things. If you' ve opened
this wonderful space that you all cometo us. I' m going to
say it because I love it andI' m super grateful for life for
lore, so it does have alot to do with our space, the
Casting, because they do a lotof tissue stuff, ceramic impressive workshops.
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Follow him on Instagram and the Eliewill tell us about his project. I
look like a storyteller there, Idon' t know aunt, but it
just makes it super good. ThenI' m not able to keep a
thread. It' s just thatthere' s a performance this genius doesn
' t look good on the project. Or it came about as a result
of me being in my boring housedoing nothing, with physical limitations. I
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open parentheses. You know that.I am a partying person who you can
know. We' ve lost alot. I' ve been without real
for over a year I' mnot lying about last year' s pride.
We erred already, but for youto understand me. After that,
I one day bought my mother acrochet starter pack in the kiyojo. Crochet
is the tide of saying it,knitting to make the anchillo and all my
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life and my mother would clarify usand I helped her and headed a wow
blanket and the blanket I started makingsparrows for Christmas, for the whole family
and in the lathe she told meyou are good at it and do more
things. I don' t knowwhat. Okay, I started doing more
stuff. I signed up for crochetclass at Katrina Fabrics in time and to
do polishing, because they have helpedyou a lot. This has freed me
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from insecurities from them. I can' t do this. What do you
say auntie if she does, superwell do this thing that' s harder
than nothing happens. If you're wrong, we' ll go after
fantasy and then I' ll dothings. For me they' ll start
telling me it' s come too. Share what you do and people started
asking me for things exchanged with moneyand, that is, they started to
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make me orders very well until acouple of weeks ago I was also talking
about one I have arrived and theytold me day throw something if you sell
anything and you earn a little money, because remember that being off means collecting
less money than I know that fucksbetter than better. And if yesterday I
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threw marks a man not to mixsocial networks that is called six laps,
I love it, because laps iswhat happens when you make the crochet and
you know because my favorite number doesn’ t have much mystery either, well,
but it’ s important and I’ ve brought a little present for
you worth I love it, Igive it think you see that disac I
love. It' s true thathe watches it last week, really this
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show. I love it and sixlaps it gives me half to break the
you have done it the whole themeof the logos and then helps me to
design it Javi, who is avery good friend of mine computer me,
and all that little bit and thelogo itself printed is like an engraving.
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It' s super, super pretty. Please buy it from the Eli.
I' m gonna put this up. I' m nervous because I'
m afraid this won' t berecorded today. How about the way you
see it. I do, youhave to say it again. I repeat,
I have no problems, of courseI' m not going to say
the same thing, but you seewhat a good horror I' m going
to open it. You open ityou adventure me and say that I think
I' m wrong, that youlove the blue color. Yeah, I
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' m a quotient that you almosttook you to the blue braids, uh,
that' s you. So,for you to combine a little bit,
I love Auntie, I want toput it around here, because all
the realties that bring us, I' m going to give us things,
bitches, everything I love you.Thank you, it' s worth super
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cut s braids azu. I lovehow nice it is. Please. Then,
in the end, you tell uswhere to find you. I'
m not going to leave it aroundhere for you to see in Camera shorts
and a lollipop where you can findyour instati toc and I don' t
know we leave a link if you' re from the web payer so that
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the peña buys Please help the peoplewho undertake, the entrepreneurs and the people
who believe that this is like nothing, the people since they are super famous,
yes, they are cool, butthey have money to the new people
who believe. I have an opinionand it is that when a person known
in networks buys a bag of morethan two zero euros, it is necessary
to stop helping her. Yes,because if you buy a bag of more
than a domilion and a thousand Imean an amount with which I pay the
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renty and like all month if Ido more things, yes, yes,
total Yesterday you are talking to afriend who I will not say the name.
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I.
This is like playing, like thelottery, but special, specific and smell.
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Yeah, I play too little andhe says yes, yes, well.
No luck at all or love andsays yes, yes, and it
' s a super weird prize.I' ve never heard of it It
makes you want 22 grand a month. Twenty- two thousand a month.
This isn' t a scam andI thought the same thing you know someone
who earned it. Yeah, yeah, I don' t know what else.
Twenty- two thousand a month.It seems to me to be a
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shameless disrespect and disrespect for thirty years. What of Why do you want,
I tell her, why do youwant so much money, what do you
need, so that a person needsso much me, when someone like that
finds it, good to her becauseshe' s friend and so and we
' re in a mood to talkand talk about everything. You know I
' m sick of it. Butthere are people like that and there are
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people who have a lot, alot of money and want more. Yeah,
yeah, totally, or what elseyou need. I don' t
know how to buy a flat,because in Spain it works, so if
you don' t have a flat, or you' re going to go
wrong, because renting your whole lifeis already looking like God, that'
s good. Elsewhere in Europe peopledon' t buy flats, that the
system works, so you can buya flat to have a place where you
can sleep your whole life. OK, the food, ok, some caprichito,
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because to see we gave the societythat we live and I try not
to be consumerist, but in theend you are, yes, I mean,
we consume the whims the flowers thatyou recently bought from flowers and I
love the flowers and I sometimes alsobuy are a clear whim, but you
get anustic, ok, but withtwenty- two euros you don' t
get angustico from time to time,that is, not cal not what you
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do with so much money. Andwhen I meet people so he' s
got a lot and he wants moreand you say what you do with is
he doesn' t give you life. He doesn' t give you life
to spend so much or give usaway. You know I also see rich
people because they' re rich,because they don' t spend, because
they stop me at the door recentlyit happened to a family I did a
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little surgery in the hospital. Allright, and when the doctor came out
saying ah everything went well. It' s in animation and I said ok
I' m going and now Icome, I' m going and I
' m stopped by an NGO startexplaining their projects. I don' t
know what, I don' tknow how many I love partner. I
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' m a four- or five- shit partner, from this shitty oneege
forgiveness. I am sure that now, to be something, it charges twenty
- two euros a month. She' s not a partner at all,
you' re welcome and I'm spending it, because maybe 60 years
this one is strong. Yeah,twenty- two zero euros a month.
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I' ve kept it to myselfa few years ago. I think it
was the last league I ever had. It wasn' t the last one,
the last one was last year,but a few years ago I was
walking. I came to mind,this story. I was walking down the
rambla and I don' t rememberwhere I was coming from yesterday, and
I was walking like this so happyso calm and I stopped a kid.
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Well, well, well, well. I have a program with the men
and setters, because they are thewhite men and setters are, like my
sin, greater. Shame on me, bigger. The goals of the retrovers
put me, I like them andthey are bad, because I have the
diagram of type two, which isthe helper ok if you swallow it.
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These are the helpless. You're the one who bites the Peli.
Yeah, being a parent. ArdWe love you, buddy, I'
m not going to say the namefriend of we love you the blow retres
Dei, because I say you supposered not to tell you the name nineteen.
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Des, but he laughed at youa lot. I mean, yeah,
I also have the list and blackcats too, because unfortunately, it
' s a black cat, becauseit' s the bad ones. Oh,
not me black cat. I don' t like one more choutube in
very low self- esteem in adolescence. Yeah, well, I' ve
been through dicks. Yeah, well, I was walking through the ramblas.
I think it' s a beautifulman and I, oh, and to
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sell this to me seasonal things thatI don' t believe. Oh my
God, this program is going tobe controversial, my God, he doesn
' t believe, because I've seen a lot of murky things in
the obrges. There is a lotof volunturism, a lot of white people
who take advantage of this and alot of people who profit and then go
there to developing countries to make theirpiggybacks and their stuff and the photo and
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the photo and come with their folderand tell me that I don' t
know what better sells me theirs thanI was selling the total ng turn and
aunt. I stay like this orI say I have two options. Or
go along with this man and tieit to me, which means yes,
but I' m usually very young. Hey, man, I just got
high school, and I' mtaking out my summertime money. They take
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advantage and those people I want togive a spear in favor of these people
don' t know either and Ialso tell you that I don' t
know and that I' m infive. I don' t make a
gesture and he' s put anumber that I' m stuck in because
it' s a way for meto feel less guilty collaborating. You know
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I' m a more privileged position. Yeah, it' s not the
best in the world, obviously,but I' m a very privileged position
compared to other places or other peopleand so on and it' s my
way of saying good or work yousee because I like the wonderful one.
I say the thing or try whenI' m aware of great. If
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of those fifteen euros I' mgiving you only reaches one euro, because
the other four fly. Let's say they fly for whatever look,
at least carry in euro cari Idon' t know. I just don
' t know, I' mmore senic. I don' t prefer
to do things and such good.But anyway, I' m sure the
man is fucking with me or I' m screwing with him. I lie
like I once berraca, because hewas bulldozing me. When I' m
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in this mood, it' sjust that I' m soft, that
is, yes, of course,if I' m not all crazy and
oh I get into a good way, Diana comes out the queen of Sword.
There, like the tarot' sdeath came out the queen of swords
and I told her because it isthat ideals how many dusts I have lost
for ideals. Yeah, and Itell him kid, but you think I
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got money. I really believe youlook at me my clothes are euro and
very honored, because I already buythem specifically so as not to contribute to
all the machinery behind the industry,the fashion and the waste of poverty,
etcetera, and the works and soon. But you think I have money
buying me clothes at markets, atsecond- hand shops for a euro.
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You see my braids, hello notthe poor light man, it turned red
I had to sell. Obviously,I was doing what I had to do.
It was scrubbing. I think it' s clear and at a certain
point that I' m already bored, but why don' t you go,
because you think there' s somuch poverty there, in these countries
and I don' t know howyour per red got. I don'
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t know what to say to mediamonds are the poorest countries that should be
the richest. Why one percent doesn' t give what they have. Why
we have to go on. We' re the ones on foot, we
' re freaking out. We contributeyou dona sang He' s got solidarity
moves. We donate, we areconstantly doing what little we have, we
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give it, and then by onepercent, who is to blame for all
global disasters in general environmental, wehave to not want it. I told
him I' m not giving youanything. If you want my phone,
but I' ll make it clear. Of course I' m always legit
at the end. But if youwant my phone, he caught me.
He called and called me and said, but well, there was nothing left
in the end. But yes,of course you do go one percent.
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These are the ones that have togive you. I say one thing.
That kid either dies or dies.M got you the phone. I would
' ve loved not to. No, no, no, no, Rome
over there would have loved that ifhe was working on it and wanted to
develop and have another perspective, thathe would have met you for coffee and
that you would have told your pointof view. Of course it' s
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another poligoteo yd gone or after flirtingthat' s when I' m not
more receptive, after putting a talkin an argument, you get horny clearly
yes and that the King is bornyou know no more such day. Yeah,
well, what else you tell me, you' re telling me about
the one we were talking about outsidethis super intense and you fell in love
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with the theme of I love intensepeople. Why people are not more intense,
what a mess with intensity and muchrepression, even if you think that
everything is too much, because youwere telling me there the topic of the
operation, of the leg, ofthe young people. I loved it.
It' s a subject I'm fascinated by people who have the ability
to go to vote. Vote ayplease, Europeans that you think you don
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' t have to vote please,because then I' m complaining that I
have a waiting list, that Idon' t know when they' re
going to operate and I' msupposed to wait for three and a month
and I' ve been waiting formore than six months and then we complain
when I don' t know whocuts, I don' t know how
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many millions of euro car for youto know, You can pot from eight
or nine o' clock in themorning to eight o' clock in the
afternoon, party on Saturday, ifyou want, but then with a bag
and a coffee or whatever. Thereis a fresh shower, because it makes
carlos at 7 (24:48):
30 you go to vote and Europeans, all, all,
vote vote vote that in the future, especially, because people who can
' t. Above all, andsomething happens to me, I' m
not going to say about people whoare not Spanish. You mean they have
another nationality and live here, butthey are lucky to be European residents,
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yes by descent, and so you, when you are a European resident,
can vote. Oh, I didn' t know Look. That' s
important that people just like they don' t know. I didn' t
know it was worth it because Ihave a known person who has Italian ancestry.
I don' t know how much, but she' s not Italian
and she can go vote. No, so inform yourselves and for whatever I
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am and vote for you. Yes, it is a voting privilege, it
is a privilege and we are ina very, very complicated time. Yeah,
' cause there' s more andmore parties, more and more fear
something than anything else. Uh,there, yes, actually, we were
and we were there debating. We' re here a week, not a
few days. I don' tremember discussing what we were going to talk
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about. It' s just him. And when we talk, we talk
about a lot of things, wego for wu dogs and a lot of
great things. It wasn' tyes, yes, we talked about interesting
and very good things. There arepatriarchals tell us that you can' t
say clearly if you' re self- centered, well you can' t.
That is the view of patriarchal todeath. Yeah, we' re
smart, and when we got together, we talked about really good things and
said what we' re gonna talkabout. We don' t know what
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and he' s telling me aboutthe knee. I don' t know
what else and gave aunty, Idon' t know why the point came
out of why not. There area lot of things he didn' t
explain to us in the twenties andwe' re already on the train He
' s not thirty- thirty-four months thirty- five. Why don
' t we talk about things wewould have liked to have been told at
the window and no one' schild. It' s true, we
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opened the cantaloupe He totally forgot you. We open the melon by pulling for
the health issue and then, ifyou want, we go for other issues
that we have talked about. Whyme, when I was young, when
I had a mild illness at first, I am told that I have to
continue, that I do not listenbecause I am young and when you are
young, you are supposed to havefull health to do whatever you want to
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work twelve hours and it is necessary. If I had listened to that pain
that I had, it is thatI half- crazed the kneecap for the
first time with fourteen years old auntand since fourteen years old has degenerated to
this. If I had listened moreand they would not have said ah look
two days of rest ahead for cetamolin Antium jana stomach care. I practice
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myself. Ladies, young lady,ladies, really, please, if you
have some kind of ailment, evenif you are eighteen years old, even
if everything is reviewed, your sociallife reviewed, you know what will happen
if you don' t listen andwant to get into a mutual. Now
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I' m going for it becausethere are people who say that mutuals are
better, is that social security isover. The mutuals. When you have
an ailment, a diagnosis, alreadya diagnosed pathology, you don' t
get caught, that' s notwhat you get, I' m going
to go to a mutual now andthey tell me here I' m not
going to do anything to Jakary's, because you already had it before.
So that' s the mutuals thing, too. We have to thank
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ourselves for what we have and wehave to fight for what they are taking
away from us, because we aregoing to get worse every time, because
we have to vote for him andPresident, we do not call ourselves Hanson
and then we love you. Helooks great. Yeah, totally, and
yes, Auntie, I remember thatI was young and I' m a
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little bit of peace, not alot of encouragement. I get tired of
having a lot of people and auntyI remember that I was tired, but
because I' ve always done alot of things, also my life I
' ve moved, in fact activities. Young people also get tired when I
say at home or circles or I' m tired around. That I want
to be such a question is thatyou' re young. Young people don
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' t get tired like I'm not a human being and there'
s a lot of infant, it' s childish and I don' t
get in it' s when theykill my God and it doesn' t
have what name to put on thatis like adultcentrism is the word and this
I see from my own family.I' m not afraid. I'
ve been called a little girl forgiving opinions, pitching voices on different topics,
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or I' m tired of sayingit. It' s just that
I was studying, I was goingto percussion, I was going to the
batucadas, I was going to partywith him and I was going to sleep
for half an hour and I wasgoing to have a percussion tabalada. There,
too, I' m going togive it to myself and say I
' m tired of your age orgiving an opinion. Shut up, you
' re a little girl. Idon' t know what the pussy eats,
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because they do eat it, butvery well, because that' s
adult, sentry. Young people knowwhat they' re saying, because young
people aren' t stupid. Youngpeople don' t have to take him
by the hand or have to explainx things to him, because he was
living his life just like all ofus and all of us have come here
to the train, we have livedit and we will continue to see it.
Obviously, it' s not thesame life experience, that' s
clear. But they have to learnand they have to know how to make
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their own decisions and they do knowwhat they' re saying. And when
a young and elderly person, becauseI' m asking with my grandmother now
is eighty- one, eighty-two, and when she says things,
she minimizes many aspects and she islucid. She' s a very smart
woman, be a black woman,very smart, matific and boy. No,
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my grandmother is eighty- two yearsold and you know what a woman
who understands perfectly when she says Igive her the goose scale, it hurts
and you have to understand. Andwhen not a woman, a person or
in general says that something hurts orthat they have a problem or gives an
opinion, because this is very quiet. That young person is very valid and
we learn, we can, wecould learn a lot from young people if
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we heard them are the engine ofthe world. Picking up two things,
picking up your grandmother' s.I remember that my family nucleus, when
I raised my voice for something,my maternal grandmother, rested her that I
was the one who loved most inthe world. She was the softest,
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i e, the wisest, Iimagine, and the one who misheard you
saying look darling. If you wantto do this to I don' t
know what the middle rank we're going to say from the 1930s to
the sixties, it was the oneI was telling you. No, I
don' t know what. Girl, you don' t know what she
' s talking about, I don' t know what. I know how
much more we' re going tolisten to our elders as well. Yeah,
man, there' s actually alot of cultures. The subject of
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the already not only matriarchy that islaw, but the subject of the elderly.
In the Caribbean, for example,older people are the people who rule
the houses, the circles, thespaces and yet there is much, much
more chaquea the Third Age c thebiduria. Yeah, and they know how
to handle it. I remember.My grandmother carried an iron fist hand and,
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on the other hand, she issuper, super empathetic and clear people
and ruled us all fucking in thegypsy community. Who is the total patriarch,
the grandfather, why? Because hehas a background and has a life
experience in which experiences that obviously havebeen wrong how everyone is wrong. And
there is already work well that willgive you clear advice are super revered in
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many cultures, honestly in Africa,for example, in Asian countries. And
I don' t know auntie yesand taking a little back to the subject
that we would have liked to havebeen told when we were twenty, picking
up the glove another glove that Ipicked up that you said to hold hands
with teenagers. When you took ateenager' s hand, when you might
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be a little old, I knoweverything you want When you pick up your
teenager, the handkerchief, the desk, the semen of the straw that was
made the night before, the underpantson the floor and all that. Then
there is an adult or young adult, who does not go out to make
a fried egg. Don' taccompany your teenager by the hand to pee
because later, the women, thewomen we are, we don' t
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have to educate teenagers who actually havea food thirty to thirty- five forty
years and you know it from thefried egg they' re going to use
their feeling that it' s aboutbreaking it, breaking it. But high
up and you' ve read thetruth, because it' s real.
And after these same people, ohmy God, I' m going to
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be very bad that these same people, these same people, I get to
know where the clitoris is. Butwhat are you going to teach him?
But I' m what I say. If we' re still learning,
if every day I discover new thingsabout myself in the world and I'
m scared I didn' t knowthis, but what we' re going
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to try to teach from adults intrima, because we' re going to
educate and teach in many ways,if it' s necessary to educate ourselves,
to educate ourselves, but we're going to support ourselves from all
sides. If we' re learningourselves, what a cath we' re
going to. And this is,then, true. I think I'
m picking up my father' strauma. Oh yeah uncle and if I
' m trying to manage my parents' traumas, that I have them here
(34:07):
seriously, I have to take itand make it so, and manage them
from someone else. No. No, no, no, it' s
a job and so is this aboutthe couple' s subject, to the
retries of relationships. We don't have to maternal and women, in
the end, if we' rea little lucky, no, but at
some point in life we' vebeen in relationships that we' ve had
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to maternal men or women, orin general, we' re going to
talk about all kinds of genders andall kinds of sensualities. Whatever you want
to the other side, but alwaysplays the role of maternalizing the woman always
falls clear and small. I don' t have why you know how to
educate an adult man and I stoppededucating my partners the same way many years
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ago. On the subject of anti- racism. She' s done a
book by Angela Davis, she collaboratesin understanding a book, you know,
and educating yourself, because women shouldn' t educate men about certain things either,
holding, accompanying, growing together,but not maternal. No. And
there are times when you' reme, maybe I' ve got a
hundred, I' ve got ahundred in a container that' s me.
My container is worth the energy ofwhatever' s x or mass and
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there' s a day I mightget up to thirty. I do have
the period because I' ve beenpaid. I' m not getting paid.
They have to pay me on thethirty- second day and they haven
' t paid me. I makeup my payroll and then, instead,
my partner or someone very close tomy core, or whatever, picks me
up, supports me that day.Hey. Thank you very much, but
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a constant for not knowing how youwere shooting. No, or where the
clitoris is. Yeah, no,no, no, I don' t
want to show you what' sgonna make me laugh. I don'
t feel like it, I don' t have orgasms anymore, I don
' t feel like it. Idon' t want that' s just
another jerk, but I want topick up something else. It' s
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everybody' s, and you've said racism and all, I don
' t know what to buy abook is worth. We can open the
melon that it' s supposed tobe and now you' re pretty sure
you' re going to light upand normal light up. I also learn
that there' s supposed to bea war and it' s not a
war, it' s genocide andI' d love for people to come
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a little closer and talk a littleand know about Islam. Yeah, man,
because in Spain there' s alot of trauma from terrorism, because
there' s been terrorism here.And well and elsewhere I also want to
say because it' s a csor whatever and it' s thought that
everyone who practices yarn is practically aterrorist and that Palestine deserves what' s
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happening to him. It' sa horror. Please, less has turned
me on. I got sad on. Of course it is that it is
very strong I in the subject ofselfishness, in the little memory looks a
few years ago FIALSBT is in pairsabout six years ago, which was in
my last stable relationship Javi. Ilove you well, very good x we
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love him, because a few yearsago I went with Javi to SBT,
to Poland. It was our lasttrips before we cut and he didn'
t want you to be very sensitive. I' m excited fast. I
don' t know what else Itake care of with people and so and
I wanted to go. I believedthere because I understood that it was necessary
first because I like the general themeof World War II and because I understood
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that it was necessary to see certainthings for me to understand them as an
individual person, to understand the collectivitylater. We went. I don'
t know what. Indeed, Javiwas right, he knew me perfectly well
a long relationship. He knocked medown, he let me down. I
saw things there in Usbyth that Ileft just we were going out and I
was very sorry to have gone becauseemotionally I was devastated by everything I saw,
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the aura, the environment, everythingis a very shady place and when
we were going out, we hadjust had the luck because there was one
of the last few survivors left ofthat more sacrilege that the extermination and the
lord was giving to a speech inthe chair. I was promoting a book
I had written with I don't know, with two more that had
already passed away. This gentleman wasmaking the story. We had you listen
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to it. I was making thestory of when he could run away.
He was one of the few peoplein the genocide, the one who was
able to flee with the other twoand fought until the last minute. He
was a ninety- year- oldman. He was already poor that they
gave him a lot of health,that file s of a lot of salus,
but he was in the last andone of the people who was there
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asked him why keep talking about it? Why keep having? It' s
a very shady place Is it avery dense place? Is this a very
sad place? Why does the memoryfeel about itself and this man with his
nineties and so many years or eightyand so much, I don' t
know how much older he would have. He said the same thing he said
is important because young people forget it. Young people directly do not know what
has happened and people who have livedare forgotten. The new generations do not
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know what this extermination has happened.And it is necessary to talk about this
so that people who are dead donot die and so that the Palestinian thing
does not happen again. It's a massacre, it' s not
a war. It' s amassacre, it' s an extermination.
They' re exterminating children, women, young people and people who today are
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where the House is, because I' m turning on. I alone feel
at home today, with the comfortof their homes and I know what I
can do if I am on theother side of the world and I have
enough. These people think they'll never be touched. They live on
a mountain, in a cloud ofprivileges absurdly and uselessly and life is a
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roulette. We have to remember whatthese people are living through We can live
it. Tomorrow your grandparents. Andthis is for the people of Europe,
and I don' t care.They' ve done it many times ten
hundred years already. Ow here acivil war. Cari Hello, one thousand
nine hundred thirty- six, Hellowmy copiot grandmother orange peels, very strong.
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You don' t know what it' s like to starve. You
don' t know what war is, you don' t know what extermination
is. And if you know,you don' t have empathy, you
can' t. It' sjust that I' m warming up already,
but it' s just that I' m not interrupting either. What
can be is that this you see, is that here I am going to
be wrong. Six months we've been like this not long, many
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years, but in this last boomnot six months. Okay now, two
weeks ago people have been sharing thefamous photo of all I Forgive me English
or raffa, which is one thingthat the photo is sure to be on
top of for a real photo yesand get wet and right. It'
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s not that neither machismo nor right, nor that it does wet you.
Be brave. Be brave and getwet, because today I know in them
and tomorrow we can be us,we and you what you' re doing
to me. You understand it's a little empathy, a little love
for the Projimo. We are notalone, gentlemen, we have been sold
neither the neo- liberal itself norI have the stupidity of individualism and there
is a super- individualist current todaythat gives me great fear. Not a
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lie. We have to survive incollectivity, patriarchy, supremacy, wars,
genocide, neoliberalism and all those stupiditiesthat are not so stupid, because look
at how they have us and seehow they live. One percent has sold
us that individualism is what saves,it is what sustains, it is not
the collective and it is teamwork andit is helping others, because today they
are them. I insist a loton this, because people. This isn
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' t about them, and tomorrowit' s you and ay it'
s gone but it' s goneto me because for you a bomb will
drop in the living room of yourhouse. Yeah, and he didn'
t miraculously kill you. You're gonna fuck. Imagine your block back.
You' re gonna fuck and you' re gonna bite the neighbor in
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front of you who didn' tfall for it. The bomb in is
your landing block building, which youhaven' t looked at in your life.
And when you go out on thestreet, you hear that the lebrecio
defer also goes out on the landingand you say aí I wait there yes,
I don' t know what,because I haven' t done it,
but I know there are people thathe already knows. You' re
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going to ask him for shelter.Yeah, and obviously I want to think
it' s gonna help, butyou' ve been feeding me. Imagine
you' re on that floor forten years. I' ve been turning
him in the face for ten years, you can see yourself because of your
individualism, because of your selfishness.You' re gonna freak out. Yes
and what I was going to cutmyself, because I get, when I
get passionate God gave me I putup. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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yeah. The braids stop me.But what it is today is that there
are many people and they are listeningto me and these comments are going to
come out. What can I do, Girl, take them home if I
could, but my house is theworld, the world is everyone' s.
My love, you know what I' m saying. And Palestine is
me, I am Palestine ontu Iam because you are and you can do
selfish things. Yes you can do, you can share, you can skip
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voice is like the one we havenow and talk you know, you can
go to some association what you needor the changes or regestions of people who
take their own causes of whatever itis. And hey, yeah, this
goes for this, for this,yeah, and that' s not it,
because it' s been three yearssince I' ve met with the
ORG changes as well. They're very direct. Yeah, there'
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s not a company back there likean NGO that we talked about before,
that says where this is going.I make something up and if you don
' t have the power here,I can do something that' s helping.
Of course, of course, becauseI understand, I understand many,
of course Auntie goes up the book. I get it. I' m
all a walking little rocker. Iunderstand there are people who don' t
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make it to the end of themonth. I don' t make it
to the end of the month.I understand that there are numerous people who
have one salary and who survive anddo what can be wrong with them.
I get it, but it's just that it' s not all
the economy. We' ve beentricked. It' s not all about
money. We are in a recordingsite where we practically survive hard and because
we ourselves put what we can andstill work. Yeah, open, but
it' s because we work fromthe community. Then it' s not
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all about money. I get sweaton the money. Yeah, it'
s important, obviously, that that' s a melon, that we could
open it, yeah, but anotherone. But it' s not all
about money. You can' thelp thousands of ways. Talk to your
friend, talk to your neighbor,talk to your father, your partner girl,
after you sleep with your partner,have sex, be eating tell her
what' s going on in Palestineor what opinion? I have an opinion,
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but a constructive and not destructive opinion. Yes, I have to apply
this, because sometimes I am fine. I too have something to improve and
I give you advice, but tohave an opinion and raise it don'
t shut up and, please,rebuke when you take and give your opinion
(44:52):
and despise you. Oh, yeah, man like that I already have enough
with my work tired home, yeah, man, eat my pussy again,
that is, recriminate when you're talking and you' re giving an
opinion about something that is important toyou and people like ah because if you
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don' t talk if this isall, if you don' t talk
about things that can happen to youAnd if you tell you this we talked
about it before your opinion or.I don' t know what, I
don' t know how many itis that maybe, I' m in
my world that I don' twatch TV, I don' t watch
networks because whatever it is and maybeI don' t know what' s
going on. And the TV thatI watch about having terle long ago because
the TV we watch is distorted.It is Eurocentrist, it is what it
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is called anti- imperialist and itis tergie sa in many ways. But
still, there are many ways toinform us. He' s not on
the street anymore. Go out onthe street, stop hanging out with your
four colleagues all your life, whichis also cool, but there are a
lot of people out there, there' s a lot of world going out
on the street and fighting mana,combative and active people facha a las fachas,
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Quintana I love you, please,it' s bad to fight,
but and I don' t knowher personally, but I think she'
s the person who could most.I second you and see that I am
very difficult, also so that someoneif not I can not with the facades.
Thirty- four tourist flats has thiswoman. Eh gross forty- four
and speaking the whole day of theoccupation, what happens, that scares him,
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to occupy it a tourist flat thatcharges Abu beag people that we could
also talk about already forty- sixminutes. No. I think whenever you
want, I think we can dolike a bunch of episodes, I'
m convincing her. If he's there, I' ll do a
piece of it I' ll dothe most work I' ve got.
If this one I' ll doa piece of the ELI on the front
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page. If it comes, Idon' t know how many visualizations.
I' m not putting a stop, because I want him to come five
hundred times. You do, ofcourse pussy, we do two or three
four parts of all this, becausewe have so many things with them and
we have to ionize, because wehave opened seven hairs ay not to ionize
a little bit like, because wedon' t pay ourselves. Uh,
(47:05):
yeah, that' s life.Yeah, yeah, well, I love
you so much. Thank you verymuch. Where I find you, I
find your straw myself personally no matterwhat, but the page of what I
am doing the crochet project is sixlaps such as, six laps on Instagram,
six turns tiktok the most antivo isinstagram or the Popy inte also that
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has opened this morning that sees thatthe French buy and bargain what you say,
what there is nothing. I've been told, yes, sucker,
I open up and try how goodthere is, because you already know
how to buy, buy, buyfrom all the people who emerge, who
are starting, and this woman entrepreneur, help us, help us all.
(47:50):
I want a lot, a lot, a lot. We' ll see
goods coming. If God wants tokeep going, yes, like he won
' t. Bye, thank youso much for inviting me. Bye.
Oh hello hello, my mother ofmy life. How good you are to
another daughter of the world being ifyou hear strange noises, you have to
say all this is a very naturalpodcast. So like life like us.
Today I am happy as a wormbecause look at a guest who I love
(00:28):
very much throw yourself home. Yeah, it' s clear how it'
s not gonna look. Hellos,good morning. Listen to the bugs.
We' re here experimenting because we' re both totally analog. I mean,
I' m in a world thatdoesn' t belong to me.
I' m appropriating it. Littleby little. We' re going to
take it from the machirulos who puton microphones and pretend they have podcat Yes,
(00:50):
we do have welcome, welcome,welcome. I' m excited,
happy, tired. Now we doa check- up on how we'
re doing. This is an importantepisode, and if I do, he
' s gonna start coming every Fridayif he wants to. This is free
proposed. That way, I'll make you such a mother. Mine
is waiting for the mic to godown a little bit. I think it
(01:11):
sounds good and today I have avery heavy guest I love you know that
I love that people define themselves anddescribe themselves. I don' t like
writing people mela to me I don' t do it or who Elli is
and what are you doing here Hello. I' m Eli Elisabeth, my
mother. My name is because Iwanted a princess, I was a son
(01:34):
or Cristina like the infanta. Howstrong, yes, yes, yes,
and is a princess and girl comingout? How strong? And nothing?
I' m a very normal andordinary woman, not at all, well.
Not me in the day to day, yeah, I mean, I
' m very Urbalite. I thinkI give you a lot more Indian lives
(02:00):
than I later am. Actually youthink, yes, no, you shed
a lot of light, a lotof me unless we have everyone. Yeah,
I' m a mess. No, you can' t like it.
It' s also weird, butI saw theélie I said uf
how to shine. I love it, I love it and I love it.
I swear to you, I admirepeople that I am able to see
lights, aura darks and I reallypromise because I' m a fucking naive
(02:25):
woman and so you go I swearto you this I don' t know
how you do it or what giftyou have. I' d love to
have a course on this if youcould learn, but I think without Nato
I' m telling you no,too. I think there are people who
vibrate, who have as energy,have light, the way to move too.
The thought is that everyone backs up. I think it' s all
(02:45):
passed on to a body. Everything, everything, everything, you know if
there are people who are very,very dark, very you don' t
like. For example, I don' t always trust my instinct because there
are people you know you don't like. Auntie. When someone doesn
' t like you, there aretimes that are prejudices, social constructions,
(03:06):
total traumas not. No, notthe first one either, but it'
s true that in the fifty orseventy percent of the times when I don
' t like someone, there's something aunty and and it' s
worth a first feeling you' regoing to give it a chance. Yeah,
but what' s so famous andthat we' re making so many
pangles this red flam so much refla. You have to take full notice,
(03:28):
you have to do the body.He doesn' t lie and I told
you light, light and I wantto see me because you started to screw
up, we lost then I lovedto guide, yes, long life,
guide, please, if bat guidethat fucks you all, everyone fucks up
the car, tune ran to fuckup. And I had a problem with
her because when I started to likeher I started to like her and she
(03:52):
was like an aunt a lot ofblack people, my face around me,
she was very antiracist. Or obviously, I don' t stay with people
who aren' t. Obviously,there are no messages like that and they
told me it' s that MrsPro is her own. Yeah, and
I don' t know. Yeah, I' m getting into an eggplant
that' s gonna piss me off, but I like it. I love
(04:14):
her and she looks like a goddessto me. I' m telling you,
wow, I open a melon.Yes, of course to the good
appropriation I warn that I am aperson that I am not expert in anything
or I have learned from everything andteacher of nothing I love, but the
appropriation is that we are appropriating allday of things to that yes how many
times I say with all my pussyof the venison in Pa rest and I
(04:36):
am not a trans woman for example, I know maybe I make things up
a lot, eh, but justas it is my extremist for some opinions,
I am also like very open ofgood. Kari, yeah, I
think there are situations like very obviousor very expensive. For example, I
don' t care. I'm used to it, but I nati
lint can' t. I justcan' t because she' s so
(04:58):
brazen. The lint nati is verybrazen. He took over the theme of
all the vipes, all the energy, all the music, the lyric,
the movement, the voice of ablack woman. I don' t remember
what the name is now. I' ll put it on top. We
' ll have this and I'll put it on top. Then I
' ll have to catch the human. I' m filming when I'
(05:19):
m looking for things in gugle,but yeah, it' s like a
little bit of a face with some. Not now, because it' s
over. Like the trend, thisone has as its stage all the singers.
To see it is rich, ofcourse, it does not have to
stand out exactly, but it istrue that it is as you say,
there are cultural appreciations and of courseeverything is not black white and I think
(05:39):
you learn it a little when youcome out of activism very very, very
radical. It' s not allblack white and there' s tones.
Yeah, and I believe and totaltiredness this we' ve been talking about
a little bit before we start.Yeah, I don' t think I
told you. I' ve forgotten20 years old that you want to eat
the world. S spoiler, Ihave thirty that you want to eat the
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world and you want to raise yourvoice of the subject, that is when
they come to give you sticks,when they don' t listen to you,
when they demand that what you sayyou are such a child you don
' t know how many. Thereare times when activism tires. Yeah,
it' s exhausting and above all, and that' s something I'
ve learned a lot about the bad. I' m sorry, I'
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m not so sorry. I thoughtthat everything and I' m here because
of a white woman who I lovevery much, I still wait for you
friend, but I used to havethis idea that all the black people around
me were activists. I don't know what else. She was super
good, super good, super deconstructed. We had the same signs and white
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people bad for experiences I had.Obviously, not everyone has their downfall,
but the reality is that there arepeople in very bad black and that there
are people in black who are inthe world of activism for their What'
s called this when you have asa girl this that their needs interests is
the word. When you have theirinterests you know and don' t look
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beyond and appropriate from or see theprofession that you have very big and appropriate
x social struggles and go in tobe able to shine because maybe in or
have light or come out, becauseshadows come out of patriarchy racism or supermas,
etcetera. And at some point,they have like this window and they
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come out and they don' tbelieve in activism as such, they don
' t believe in the struggle,they believe in their interests and they appropriate,
they profit. And a lot ofpeople don' t do it and
you learn it the hard way,because you come with this ideal of ay
is that people don' t havea lot of white people who do want
to build themselves, they do wantto learn and there are good people aunty.
You have to do what you can, because in the end we do
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what we can. This is whatthe bad ones learned, but it'
s true we all do what wecan least stay and do what you can
in terms of society and IT andso on. Because you' re your
internal struggle and your internal moves,too. Yeah,' cause you can
' t be every day you getup with your right foot. It can
' t be every day how coolthis is I' m going to put
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you in an eggplant because that youwake up one after you get up with
your right foot means that if yougo with your right, you' re
going to do well what a horror. I don' t think it'
s gonna kill the interfront or ifit doesn' t get the likes up.
No publicity. It' s bad. Oh, my God, I
' m sorry you got up onyour feet. Not specific which doesn'
t happen to you every day andmaybe you have your move, you fight
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your mother, your partner, yourfather. Whatever it is and maybe,
that day you' re not goingto pass on to yourself and you have
to keep that in mind. Yeah, and every day you can' t
be fighting. That being said,how are you today? I' m
very happy today. It' sthe first time I' ve done anything
like that. I' m alittle nervous, and yes, I'
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m happy today. I' mrunning here that yesterday I opened an instagram
and so on and it gets youemotional and I can define that I,
in general, am in bubbles.Yeah, and being in a bubble is
fine with me right now, andI' m a bubble that maybe right
now is recording this with you,and it makes me very happy. Ah
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it sounds terrible already, but welllet' s good, let' s
do more, doing. I maybe in a bubble now that I'
m very happy here with you,but in my bare, sad situation,
I' m terrible. I havea problem with the knee of a young
person who has to operate on me. I' m not making normal life
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because I' m super sedentary.I' m taking kilos, I'
m being pressured by the relevant dockersto drop pounds when I' m making
a sedentary life and I' mwaiting for an operation that, if it
doesn' t happen, I'm going to keep taking all the time.
No, but while what happens,they spend little things like doing this,
like crochet, which is what isnow saving my life. And all
that, because I get into thosebubbles and I' m being happy for
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moments. That' s very good. I mean, we' re doing
it. You want to tell meabout your project now after, you want
when you want this, this isright now. If you want to go
well, then the ELI is ina project that I love and has a
lot to do and we haven't also partly counted on the space that
is taking us, the Foundry,which is a cooperative space of women entrepreneurs,
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totally self- managed, a superf space, super free. In
fact, today is something super interesting, because if you want to participate and
you want to come, every Fridaythey have as a collective meeting with all
the associations that collaborate, collective andpeople And listen you have nothing to do
or you don' t have toeat, that this is important. And
it' s never said if I' ve been very hungry come and see
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that the doors open and you're welcome here. We have a community
boat, because hellowe in case anyonewants to punch, but it' s
not mandatory and you do a lotof things. If you' ve opened
this wonderful space that you all cometo us. I' m going to
say it because I love it andI' m super grateful for life for
lore, so it does have alot to do with our space, the
Casting, because they do a lotof tissue stuff, ceramic impressive workshops.
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Follow him on Instagram and the Eliewill tell us about his project. I
look like a storyteller there, Idon' t know aunt, but it
just makes it super good. ThenI' m not able to keep a
thread. It' s just thatthere' s a performance this genius doesn
' t look good on the project. Or it came about as a result
of me being in my boring housedoing nothing, with physical limitations. I
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open parentheses. You know that.I am a partying person who you can
know. We' ve lost alot. I' ve been without real
for over a year I' mnot lying about last year' s pride.
We erred already, but for youto understand me. After that,
I one day bought my mother acrochet starter pack in the kiyojo. Crochet
is the tide of saying it,knitting to make the anchillo and all my
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life and my mother would clarify usand I helped her and headed a wow
blanket and the blanket I started makingsparrows for Christmas, for the whole family
and in the lathe she told meyou are good at it and do more
things. I don' t knowwhat. Okay, I started doing more
stuff. I signed up for crochetclass at Katrina Fabrics in time and to
do polishing, because they have helpedyou a lot. This has freed me
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from insecurities from them. I can' t do this. What do you
say auntie if she does, superwell do this thing that' s harder
than nothing happens. If you're wrong, we' ll go after
fantasy and then I' ll dothings. For me they' ll start
telling me it' s come too. Share what you do and people started
asking me for things exchanged with moneyand, that is, they started to
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make me orders very well until acouple of weeks ago I was also talking
about one I have arrived and theytold me day throw something if you sell
anything and you earn a little money, because remember that being off means collecting
less money than I know that fucksbetter than better. And if yesterday I
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threw marks a man not to mixsocial networks that is called six laps,
I love it, because laps iswhat happens when you make the crochet and
you know because my favorite number doesn’ t have much mystery either, well,
but it’ s important and I’ ve brought a little present for
you worth I love it, Igive it think you see that disac I
love. It' s true thathe watches it last week, really this
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show. I love it and sixlaps it gives me half to break the
you have done it the whole themeof the logos and then helps me to
design it Javi, who is avery good friend of mine computer me,
and all that little bit and thelogo itself printed is like an engraving.
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It' s super, super pretty. Please buy it from the Eli.
I' m gonna put this up. I' m nervous because I'
m afraid this won' t berecorded today. How about the way you
see it. I do, youhave to say it again. I repeat,
I have no problems, of courseI' m not going to say
the same thing, but you seewhat a good horror I' m going
to open it. You open ityou adventure me and say that I think
I' m wrong, that youlove the blue color. Yeah, I
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' m a quotient that you almosttook you to the blue braids, uh,
that' s you. So,for you to combine a little bit,
I love Auntie, I want toput it around here, because all
the realties that bring us, I' m going to give us things,
bitches, everything I love you.Thank you, it' s worth super
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cut s braids azu. I lovehow nice it is. Please. Then,
in the end, you tell uswhere to find you. I'
m not going to leave it aroundhere for you to see in Camera shorts
and a lollipop where you can findyour instati toc and I don' t
know we leave a link if you' re from the web payer so that
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the peña buys Please help the peoplewho undertake, the entrepreneurs and the people
who believe that this is like nothing, the people since they are super famous,
yes, they are cool, butthey have money to the new people
who believe. I have an opinionand it is that when a person known
in networks buys a bag of morethan two zero euros, it is necessary
to stop helping her. Yes,because if you buy a bag of more
than a domilion and a thousand Imean an amount with which I pay the
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renty and like all month if Ido more things, yes, yes,
total Yesterday you are talking to afriend who I will not say the name.
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I mean, Imean, I mean, I.
This is like playing, like thelottery, but special, specific and smell.
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Yeah, I play too little andhe says yes, yes, well.
No luck at all or love andsays yes, yes, and it
' s a super weird prize.I' ve never heard of it It
makes you want 22 grand a month. Twenty- two thousand a month.
This isn' t a scam andI thought the same thing you know someone
who earned it. Yeah, yeah, I don' t know what else.
Twenty- two thousand a month.It seems to me to be a
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shameless disrespect and disrespect for thirty years. What of Why do you want,
I tell her, why do youwant so much money, what do you
need, so that a person needsso much me, when someone like that
finds it, good to her becauseshe' s friend and so and we
' re in a mood to talkand talk about everything. You know I
' m sick of it. Butthere are people like that and there are
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people who have a lot, alot of money and want more. Yeah,
yeah, totally, or what elseyou need. I don' t
know how to buy a flat,because in Spain it works, so if
you don' t have a flat, or you' re going to go
wrong, because renting your whole lifeis already looking like God, that'
s good. Elsewhere in Europe peopledon' t buy flats, that the
system works, so you can buya flat to have a place where you
can sleep your whole life. OK, the food, ok, some caprichito,
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because to see we gave the societythat we live and I try not
to be consumerist, but in theend you are, yes, I mean,
we consume the whims the flowers thatyou recently bought from flowers and I
love the flowers and I sometimes alsobuy are a clear whim, but you
get anustic, ok, but withtwenty- two euros you don' t
get angustico from time to time,that is, not cal not what you
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do with so much money. Andwhen I meet people so he' s
got a lot and he wants moreand you say what you do with is
he doesn' t give you life. He doesn' t give you life
to spend so much or give usaway. You know I also see rich
people because they' re rich,because they don' t spend, because
they stop me at the door recentlyit happened to a family I did a
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little surgery in the hospital. Allright, and when the doctor came out
saying ah everything went well. It' s in animation and I said ok
I' m going and now Icome, I' m going and I
' m stopped by an NGO startexplaining their projects. I don' t
know what, I don' tknow how many I love partner. I
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' m a four- or five- shit partner, from this shitty oneege
forgiveness. I am sure that now, to be something, it charges twenty
- two euros a month. She' s not a partner at all,
you' re welcome and I'm spending it, because maybe 60 years
this one is strong. Yeah,twenty- two zero euros a month.
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I' ve kept it to myselfa few years ago. I think it
was the last league I ever had. It wasn' t the last one,
the last one was last year,but a few years ago I was
walking. I came to mind,this story. I was walking down the
rambla and I don' t rememberwhere I was coming from yesterday, and
I was walking like this so happyso calm and I stopped a kid.
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Well, well, well, well. I have a program with the men
and setters, because they are thewhite men and setters are, like my
sin, greater. Shame on me, bigger. The goals of the retrovers
put me, I like them andthey are bad, because I have the
diagram of type two, which isthe helper ok if you swallow it.
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These are the helpless. You're the one who bites the Peli.
Yeah, being a parent. ArdWe love you, buddy, I'
m not going to say the namefriend of we love you the blow retres
Dei, because I say you supposered not to tell you the name nineteen.
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Des, but he laughed at youa lot. I mean, yeah,
I also have the list and blackcats too, because unfortunately, it
' s a black cat, becauseit' s the bad ones. Oh,
not me black cat. I don' t like one more choutube in
very low self- esteem in adolescence. Yeah, well, I' ve
been through dicks. Yeah, well, I was walking through the ramblas.
I think it' s a beautifulman and I, oh, and to
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sell this to me seasonal things thatI don' t believe. Oh my
God, this program is going tobe controversial, my God, he doesn
' t believe, because I've seen a lot of murky things in
the obrges. There is a lotof volunturism, a lot of white people
who take advantage of this and alot of people who profit and then go
there to developing countries to make theirpiggybacks and their stuff and the photo and
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the photo and come with their folderand tell me that I don' t
know what better sells me theirs thanI was selling the total ng turn and
aunt. I stay like this orI say I have two options. Or
go along with this man and tieit to me, which means yes,
but I' m usually very young. Hey, man, I just got
high school, and I' mtaking out my summertime money. They take
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advantage and those people I want togive a spear in favor of these people
don' t know either and Ialso tell you that I don' t
know and that I' m infive. I don' t make a
gesture and he' s put anumber that I' m stuck in because
it' s a way for meto feel less guilty collaborating. You know
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I' m a more privileged position. Yeah, it' s not the
best in the world, obviously,but I' m a very privileged position
compared to other places or other peopleand so on and it' s my
way of saying good or work yousee because I like the wonderful one.
I say the thing or try whenI' m aware of great. If
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of those fifteen euros I' mgiving you only reaches one euro, because
the other four fly. Let's say they fly for whatever look,
at least carry in euro cari Idon' t know. I just don
' t know, I' mmore senic. I don' t prefer
to do things and such good.But anyway, I' m sure the
man is fucking with me or I' m screwing with him. I lie
like I once berraca, because hewas bulldozing me. When I' m
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in this mood, it' sjust that I' m soft, that
is, yes, of course,if I' m not all crazy and
oh I get into a good way, Diana comes out the queen of Sword.
There, like the tarot' sdeath came out the queen of swords
and I told her because it isthat ideals how many dusts I have lost
for ideals. Yeah, and Itell him kid, but you think I
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got money. I really believe youlook at me my clothes are euro and
very honored, because I already buythem specifically so as not to contribute to
all the machinery behind the industry,the fashion and the waste of poverty,
etcetera, and the works and soon. But you think I have money
buying me clothes at markets, atsecond- hand shops for a euro.
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You see my braids, hello notthe poor light man, it turned red
I had to sell. Obviously,I was doing what I had to do.
It was scrubbing. I think it' s clear and at a certain
point that I' m already bored, but why don' t you go,
because you think there' s somuch poverty there, in these countries
and I don' t know howyour per red got. I don'
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t know what to say to mediamonds are the poorest countries that should be
the richest. Why one percent doesn' t give what they have. Why
we have to go on. We' re the ones on foot, we
' re freaking out. We contributeyou dona sang He' s got solidarity
moves. We donate, we areconstantly doing what little we have, we
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give it, and then by onepercent, who is to blame for all
global disasters in general environmental, wehave to not want it. I told
him I' m not giving youanything. If you want my phone,
but I' ll make it clear. Of course I' m always legit
at the end. But if youwant my phone, he caught me.
He called and called me and said, but well, there was nothing left
in the end. But yes,of course you do go one percent.
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These are the ones that have togive you. I say one thing.
That kid either dies or dies.M got you the phone. I would
' ve loved not to. No, no, no, no, Rome
over there would have loved that ifhe was working on it and wanted to
develop and have another perspective, thathe would have met you for coffee and
that you would have told your pointof view. Of course it' s
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another poligoteo yd gone or after flirtingthat' s when I' m not
more receptive, after putting a talkin an argument, you get horny clearly
yes and that the King is bornyou know no more such day. Yeah,
well, what else you tell me, you' re telling me about
the one we were talking about outsidethis super intense and you fell in love
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with the theme of I love intensepeople. Why people are not more intense,
what a mess with intensity and muchrepression, even if you think that
everything is too much, because youwere telling me there the topic of the
operation, of the leg, ofthe young people. I loved it.
It' s a subject I'm fascinated by people who have the ability
to go to vote. Vote ayplease, Europeans that you think you don
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' t have to vote please,because then I' m complaining that I
have a waiting list, that Idon' t know when they' re
going to operate and I' msupposed to wait for three and a month
and I' ve been waiting formore than six months and then we complain
when I don' t know whocuts, I don' t know how
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many millions of euro car for youto know, You can pot from eight
or nine o' clock in themorning to eight o' clock in the
afternoon, party on Saturday, ifyou want, but then with a bag
and a coffee or whatever. Thereis a fresh shower, because it makes
carlos at 7 (24:48):
30 you go to vote and Europeans, all, all,
vote vote vote that in the future, especially, because people who can
' t. Above all, andsomething happens to me, I' m
not going to say about people whoare not Spanish. You mean they have
another nationality and live here, butthey are lucky to be European residents,
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yes by descent, and so you, when you are a European resident,
can vote. Oh, I didn' t know Look. That' s
important that people just like they don' t know. I didn' t
know it was worth it because Ihave a known person who has Italian ancestry.
I don' t know how much, but she' s not Italian
and she can go vote. No, so inform yourselves and for whatever I
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am and vote for you. Yes, it is a voting privilege, it
is a privilege and we are ina very, very complicated time. Yeah,
' cause there' s more andmore parties, more and more fear
something than anything else. Uh,there, yes, actually, we were
and we were there debating. We' re here a week, not a
few days. I don' tremember discussing what we were going to talk
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about. It' s just him. And when we talk, we talk
about a lot of things, wego for wu dogs and a lot of
great things. It wasn' tyes, yes, we talked about interesting
and very good things. There arepatriarchals tell us that you can' t
say clearly if you' re self- centered, well you can' t.
That is the view of patriarchal todeath. Yeah, we' re
smart, and when we got together, we talked about really good things and
said what we' re gonna talkabout. We don' t know what
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and he' s telling me aboutthe knee. I don' t know
what else and gave aunty, Idon' t know why the point came
out of why not. There area lot of things he didn' t
explain to us in the twenties andwe' re already on the train He
' s not thirty- thirty-four months thirty- five. Why don
' t we talk about things wewould have liked to have been told at
the window and no one' schild. It' s true, we
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opened the cantaloupe He totally forgot you. We open the melon by pulling for
the health issue and then, ifyou want, we go for other issues
that we have talked about. Whyme, when I was young, when
I had a mild illness at first, I am told that I have to
continue, that I do not listenbecause I am young and when you are
young, you are supposed to havefull health to do whatever you want to
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work twelve hours and it is necessary. If I had listened to that pain
that I had, it is thatI half- crazed the kneecap for the
first time with fourteen years old auntand since fourteen years old has degenerated to
this. If I had listened moreand they would not have said ah look
two days of rest ahead for cetamolin Antium jana stomach care. I practice
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myself. Ladies, young lady,ladies, really, please, if you
have some kind of ailment, evenif you are eighteen years old, even
if everything is reviewed, your sociallife reviewed, you know what will happen
if you don' t listen andwant to get into a mutual. Now
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I' m going for it becausethere are people who say that mutuals are
better, is that social security isover. The mutuals. When you have
an ailment, a diagnosis, alreadya diagnosed pathology, you don' t
get caught, that' s notwhat you get, I' m going
to go to a mutual now andthey tell me here I' m not
going to do anything to Jakary's, because you already had it before.
So that' s the mutuals thing, too. We have to thank
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ourselves for what we have and wehave to fight for what they are taking
away from us, because we aregoing to get worse every time, because
we have to vote for him andPresident, we do not call ourselves Hanson
and then we love you. Helooks great. Yeah, totally, and
yes, Auntie, I remember thatI was young and I' m a
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little bit of peace, not alot of encouragement. I get tired of
having a lot of people and auntyI remember that I was tired, but
because I' ve always done alot of things, also my life I
' ve moved, in fact activities. Young people also get tired when I
say at home or circles or I' m tired around. That I want
to be such a question is thatyou' re young. Young people don
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' t get tired like I'm not a human being and there'
s a lot of infant, it' s childish and I don' t
get in it' s when theykill my God and it doesn' t
have what name to put on thatis like adultcentrism is the word and this
I see from my own family.I' m not afraid. I'
ve been called a little girl forgiving opinions, pitching voices on different topics,
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or I' m tired of sayingit. It' s just that
I was studying, I was goingto percussion, I was going to the
batucadas, I was going to partywith him and I was going to sleep
for half an hour and I wasgoing to have a percussion tabalada. There,
too, I' m going togive it to myself and say I
' m tired of your age orgiving an opinion. Shut up, you
' re a little girl. Idon' t know what the pussy eats,
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because they do eat it, butvery well, because that' s
adult, sentry. Young people knowwhat they' re saying, because young
people aren' t stupid. Youngpeople don' t have to take him
by the hand or have to explainx things to him, because he was
living his life just like all ofus and all of us have come here
to the train, we have livedit and we will continue to see it.
Obviously, it' s not thesame life experience, that' s
clear. But they have to learnand they have to know how to make
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their own decisions and they do knowwhat they' re saying. And when
a young and elderly person, becauseI' m asking with my grandmother now
is eighty- one, eighty-two, and when she says things,
she minimizes many aspects and she islucid. She' s a very smart
woman, be a black woman,very smart, matific and boy. No,
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my grandmother is eighty- two yearsold and you know what a woman
who understands perfectly when she says Igive her the goose scale, it hurts
and you have to understand. Andwhen not a woman, a person or
in general says that something hurts orthat they have a problem or gives an
opinion, because this is very quiet. That young person is very valid and
we learn, we can, wecould learn a lot from young people if
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we heard them are the engine ofthe world. Picking up two things,
picking up your grandmother' s.I remember that my family nucleus, when
I raised my voice for something,my maternal grandmother, rested her that I
was the one who loved most inthe world. She was the softest,
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i e, the wisest, Iimagine, and the one who misheard you
saying look darling. If you wantto do this to I don' t
know what the middle rank we're going to say from the 1930s to
the sixties, it was the oneI was telling you. No, I
don' t know what. Girl, you don' t know what she
' s talking about, I don' t know what. I know how
much more we' re going tolisten to our elders as well. Yeah,
man, there' s actually alot of cultures. The subject of
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the already not only matriarchy that islaw, but the subject of the elderly.
In the Caribbean, for example,older people are the people who rule
the houses, the circles, thespaces and yet there is much, much
more chaquea the Third Age c thebiduria. Yeah, and they know how
to handle it. I remember.My grandmother carried an iron fist hand and,
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on the other hand, she issuper, super empathetic and clear people
and ruled us all fucking in thegypsy community. Who is the total patriarch,
the grandfather, why? Because hehas a background and has a life
experience in which experiences that obviously havebeen wrong how everyone is wrong. And
there is already work well that willgive you clear advice are super revered in
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many cultures, honestly in Africa,for example, in Asian countries. And
I don' t know auntie yesand taking a little back to the subject
that we would have liked to havebeen told when we were twenty, picking
up the glove another glove that Ipicked up that you said to hold hands
with teenagers. When you took ateenager' s hand, when you might
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be a little old, I knoweverything you want When you pick up your
teenager, the handkerchief, the desk, the semen of the straw that was
made the night before, the underpantson the floor and all that. Then
there is an adult or young adult, who does not go out to make
a fried egg. Don' taccompany your teenager by the hand to pee
because later, the women, thewomen we are, we don' t
(33:00):
have to educate teenagers who actually havea food thirty to thirty- five forty
years and you know it from thefried egg they' re going to use
their feeling that it' s aboutbreaking it, breaking it. But high
up and you' ve read thetruth, because it' s real.
And after these same people, ohmy God, I' m going to
(33:21):
be very bad that these same people, these same people, I get to
know where the clitoris is. Butwhat are you going to teach him?
But I' m what I say. If we' re still learning,
if every day I discover new thingsabout myself in the world and I'
m scared I didn' t knowthis, but what we' re going
(33:43):
to try to teach from adults intrima, because we' re going to
educate and teach in many ways,if it' s necessary to educate ourselves,
to educate ourselves, but we're going to support ourselves from all
sides. If we' re learningourselves, what a cath we' re
going to. And this is,then, true. I think I'
m picking up my father' strauma. Oh yeah uncle and if I
' m trying to manage my parents' traumas, that I have them here
(34:07):
seriously, I have to take itand make it so, and manage them
from someone else. No. No, no, no, it' s
a job and so is this aboutthe couple' s subject, to the
retries of relationships. We don't have to maternal and women, in
the end, if we' rea little lucky, no, but at
some point in life we' vebeen in relationships that we' ve had
(34:30):
to maternal men or women, orin general, we' re going to
talk about all kinds of genders andall kinds of sensualities. Whatever you want
to the other side, but alwaysplays the role of maternalizing the woman always
falls clear and small. I don' t have why you know how to
educate an adult man and I stoppededucating my partners the same way many years
(34:50):
ago. On the subject of anti- racism. She' s done a
book by Angela Davis, she collaboratesin understanding a book, you know,
and educating yourself, because women shouldn' t educate men about certain things either,
holding, accompanying, growing together,but not maternal. No. And
there are times when you' reme, maybe I' ve got a
hundred, I' ve got ahundred in a container that' s me.
My container is worth the energy ofwhatever' s x or mass and
(35:15):
there' s a day I mightget up to thirty. I do have
the period because I' ve beenpaid. I' m not getting paid.
They have to pay me on thethirty- second day and they haven
' t paid me. I makeup my payroll and then, instead,
my partner or someone very close tomy core, or whatever, picks me
up, supports me that day.Hey. Thank you very much, but
(35:37):
a constant for not knowing how youwere shooting. No, or where the
clitoris is. Yeah, no,no, no, I don' t
want to show you what' sgonna make me laugh. I don'
t feel like it, I don' t have orgasms anymore, I don
' t feel like it. Idon' t want that' s just
another jerk, but I want topick up something else. It' s
(35:57):
everybody' s, and you've said racism and all, I don
' t know what to buy abook is worth. We can open the
melon that it' s supposed tobe and now you' re pretty sure
you' re going to light upand normal light up. I also learn
that there' s supposed to bea war and it' s not a
war, it' s genocide andI' d love for people to come
(36:20):
a little closer and talk a littleand know about Islam. Yeah, man,
because in Spain there' s alot of trauma from terrorism, because
there' s been terrorism here.And well and elsewhere I also want to
say because it' s a csor whatever and it' s thought that
everyone who practices yarn is practically aterrorist and that Palestine deserves what' s
(36:44):
happening to him. It' sa horror. Please, less has turned
me on. I got sad on. Of course it is that it is
very strong I in the subject ofselfishness, in the little memory looks a
few years ago FIALSBT is in pairsabout six years ago, which was in
my last stable relationship Javi. Ilove you well, very good x we
(37:05):
love him, because a few yearsago I went with Javi to SBT,
to Poland. It was our lasttrips before we cut and he didn'
t want you to be very sensitive. I' m excited fast. I
don' t know what else Itake care of with people and so and
I wanted to go. I believedthere because I understood that it was necessary
first because I like the general themeof World War II and because I understood
(37:27):
that it was necessary to see certainthings for me to understand them as an
individual person, to understand the collectivitylater. We went. I don'
t know what. Indeed, Javiwas right, he knew me perfectly well
a long relationship. He knocked medown, he let me down. I
saw things there in Usbyth that Ileft just we were going out and I
was very sorry to have gone becauseemotionally I was devastated by everything I saw,
(37:50):
the aura, the environment, everythingis a very shady place and when
we were going out, we hadjust had the luck because there was one
of the last few survivors left ofthat more sacrilege that the extermination and the
lord was giving to a speech inthe chair. I was promoting a book
I had written with I don't know, with two more that had
already passed away. This gentleman wasmaking the story. We had you listen
(38:10):
to it. I was making thestory of when he could run away.
He was one of the few peoplein the genocide, the one who was
able to flee with the other twoand fought until the last minute. He
was a ninety- year- oldman. He was already poor that they
gave him a lot of health,that file s of a lot of salus,
but he was in the last andone of the people who was there
(38:32):
asked him why keep talking about it? Why keep having? It' s
a very shady place Is it avery dense place? Is this a very
sad place? Why does the memoryfeel about itself and this man with his
nineties and so many years or eightyand so much, I don' t
know how much older he would have. He said the same thing he said
is important because young people forget it. Young people directly do not know what
has happened and people who have livedare forgotten. The new generations do not
(38:55):
know what this extermination has happened.And it is necessary to talk about this
so that people who are dead donot die and so that the Palestinian thing
does not happen again. It's a massacre, it' s not
a war. It' s amassacre, it' s an extermination.
They' re exterminating children, women, young people and people who today are
(39:15):
where the House is, because I' m turning on. I alone feel
at home today, with the comfortof their homes and I know what I
can do if I am on theother side of the world and I have
enough. These people think they'll never be touched. They live on
a mountain, in a cloud ofprivileges absurdly and uselessly and life is a
(39:36):
roulette. We have to remember whatthese people are living through We can live
it. Tomorrow your grandparents. Andthis is for the people of Europe,
and I don' t care.They' ve done it many times ten
hundred years already. Ow here acivil war. Cari Hello, one thousand
nine hundred thirty- six, Hellowmy copiot grandmother orange peels, very strong.
(39:57):
You don' t know what it' s like to starve. You
don' t know what war is, you don' t know what extermination
is. And if you know,you don' t have empathy, you
can' t. It' sjust that I' m warming up already,
but it' s just that I' m not interrupting either. What
can be is that this you see, is that here I am going to
be wrong. Six months we've been like this not long, many
(40:19):
years, but in this last boomnot six months. Okay now, two
weeks ago people have been sharing thefamous photo of all I Forgive me English
or raffa, which is one thingthat the photo is sure to be on
top of for a real photo yesand get wet and right. It'
(40:43):
s not that neither machismo nor right, nor that it does wet you.
Be brave. Be brave and getwet, because today I know in them
and tomorrow we can be us,we and you what you' re doing
to me. You understand it's a little empathy, a little love
for the Projimo. We are notalone, gentlemen, we have been sold
neither the neo- liberal itself norI have the stupidity of individualism and there
is a super- individualist current todaythat gives me great fear. Not a
(41:06):
lie. We have to survive incollectivity, patriarchy, supremacy, wars,
genocide, neoliberalism and all those stupiditiesthat are not so stupid, because look
at how they have us and seehow they live. One percent has sold
us that individualism is what saves,it is what sustains, it is not
the collective and it is teamwork andit is helping others, because today they
are them. I insist a loton this, because people. This isn
(41:30):
' t about them, and tomorrowit' s you and ay it'
s gone but it' s goneto me because for you a bomb will
drop in the living room of yourhouse. Yeah, and he didn'
t miraculously kill you. You're gonna fuck. Imagine your block back.
You' re gonna fuck and you' re gonna bite the neighbor in
(41:52):
front of you who didn' tfall for it. The bomb in is
your landing block building, which youhaven' t looked at in your life.
And when you go out on thestreet, you hear that the lebrecio
defer also goes out on the landingand you say aí I wait there yes,
I don' t know what,because I haven' t done it,
but I know there are people thathe already knows. You' re
(42:14):
going to ask him for shelter.Yeah, and obviously I want to think
it' s gonna help, butyou' ve been feeding me. Imagine
you' re on that floor forten years. I' ve been turning
him in the face for ten years, you can see yourself because of your
individualism, because of your selfishness.You' re gonna freak out. Yes
and what I was going to cutmyself, because I get, when I
get passionate God gave me I putup. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(42:36):
yeah. The braids stop me.But what it is today is that there
are many people and they are listeningto me and these comments are going to
come out. What can I do, Girl, take them home if I
could, but my house is theworld, the world is everyone' s.
My love, you know what I' m saying. And Palestine is
me, I am Palestine ontu Iam because you are and you can do
selfish things. Yes you can do, you can share, you can skip
(43:00):
voice is like the one we havenow and talk you know, you can
go to some association what you needor the changes or regestions of people who
take their own causes of whatever itis. And hey, yeah, this
goes for this, for this,yeah, and that' s not it,
because it' s been three yearssince I' ve met with the
ORG changes as well. They're very direct. Yeah, there'
(43:21):
s not a company back there likean NGO that we talked about before,
that says where this is going.I make something up and if you don
' t have the power here,I can do something that' s helping.
Of course, of course, becauseI understand, I understand many,
of course Auntie goes up the book. I get it. I' m
all a walking little rocker. Iunderstand there are people who don' t
(43:42):
make it to the end of themonth. I don' t make it
to the end of the month.I understand that there are numerous people who
have one salary and who survive anddo what can be wrong with them.
I get it, but it's just that it' s not all
the economy. We' ve beentricked. It' s not all about
money. We are in a recordingsite where we practically survive hard and because
we ourselves put what we can andstill work. Yeah, open, but
it' s because we work fromthe community. Then it' s not
(44:06):
all about money. I get sweaton the money. Yeah, it'
s important, obviously, that that' s a melon, that we could
open it, yeah, but anotherone. But it' s not all
about money. You can' thelp thousands of ways. Talk to your
friend, talk to your neighbor,talk to your father, your partner girl,
after you sleep with your partner,have sex, be eating tell her
what' s going on in Palestineor what opinion? I have an opinion,
(44:30):
but a constructive and not destructive opinion. Yes, I have to apply
this, because sometimes I am fine. I too have something to improve and
I give you advice, but tohave an opinion and raise it don'
t shut up and, please,rebuke when you take and give your opinion
(44:52):
and despise you. Oh, yeah, man like that I already have enough
with my work tired home, yeah, man, eat my pussy again,
that is, recriminate when you're talking and you' re giving an
opinion about something that is important toyou and people like ah because if you
(45:14):
don' t talk if this isall, if you don' t talk
about things that can happen to youAnd if you tell you this we talked
about it before your opinion or.I don' t know what, I
don' t know how many itis that maybe, I' m in
my world that I don' twatch TV, I don' t watch
networks because whatever it is and maybeI don' t know what' s
going on. And the TV thatI watch about having terle long ago because
the TV we watch is distorted.It is Eurocentrist, it is what it
(45:38):
is called anti- imperialist and itis tergie sa in many ways. But
still, there are many ways toinform us. He' s not on
the street anymore. Go out onthe street, stop hanging out with your
four colleagues all your life, whichis also cool, but there are a
lot of people out there, there' s a lot of world going out
on the street and fighting mana,combative and active people facha a las fachas,
(46:00):
Quintana I love you, please,it' s bad to fight,
but and I don' t knowher personally, but I think she'
s the person who could most.I second you and see that I am
very difficult, also so that someoneif not I can not with the facades.
Thirty- four tourist flats has thiswoman. Eh gross forty- four
and speaking the whole day of theoccupation, what happens, that scares him,
(46:22):
to occupy it a tourist flat thatcharges Abu beag people that we could
also talk about already forty- sixminutes. No. I think whenever you
want, I think we can dolike a bunch of episodes, I'
m convincing her. If he's there, I' ll do a
piece of it I' ll dothe most work I' ve got.
If this one I' ll doa piece of the ELI on the front
(46:43):
page. If it comes, Idon' t know how many visualizations.
I' m not putting a stop, because I want him to come five
hundred times. You do, ofcourse pussy, we do two or three
four parts of all this, becausewe have so many things with them and
we have to ionize, because wehave opened seven hairs ay not to ionize
a little bit like, because wedon' t pay ourselves. Uh,
(47:05):
yeah, that' s life.Yeah, yeah, well, I love
you so much. Thank you verymuch. Where I find you, I
find your straw myself personally no matterwhat, but the page of what I
am doing the crochet project is sixlaps such as, six laps on Instagram,
six turns tiktok the most antivo isinstagram or the Popy inte also that
(47:29):
has opened this morning that sees thatthe French buy and bargain what you say,
what there is nothing. I've been told, yes, sucker,
I open up and try how goodthere is, because you already know
how to buy, buy, buyfrom all the people who emerge, who
are starting, and this woman entrepreneur, help us, help us all.
(47:50):
I want a lot, a lot, a lot. We' ll see
goods coming. If God wants tokeep going, yes, like he won
' t. Bye, thank youso much for inviting me. Bye.
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