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July 5, 2024 50 mins
En este episodio hablamos de nuevas masculinidades,sectas,incels y mas, esta vez repitiendo invitada con Eli.
Recuerda que puedes seguirme por spotify como Hija de Lucero Mundo y en la página de insta @hija.deluceromundo.
A Eli la puedes encontrar también en su página con su proyecto de tejido @seisvueltas.
Siguenos para no perderte nada y acompañarnos cada viernes.
Os Queremos mucho
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(00:02):
Okay, my mother. This islike the second one. We had to
stop. We' ve had tostop, or we' ve started over.
I' m nervous today. Welcome, welcome, welcome to Lucero'
s daughter world, as you saidbefore. I was just explaining that I
was going to start today' ssubject because I' m crazy about beating

(00:27):
up today' s characters and thesubject because I love putting up to go
to men, Etcéte. You knowwhere we' re going. But I
remembered an anecdote from my grandmother,a black woman who always made the story,
who, when she was very youngin Cuba, entered the spaces,
places and said good morning and nobodyanswered her. Everyone was silent. My

(00:48):
grandmother, who was a woman andis a combatant and testatua woman, stood
in the same place and kept sayingGood morning, good morning, making the
people who were uncomfortable and until theydidn' t answer her. I don
' t know about this show anymore. It' s not antiracism, child
of being a world or the ideais basically not just to give space and
there were those people who don't have platforms, but to get a

(01:14):
little bit out of the dynamics andnarrative where it puts us many times patriarchy
of racism, supremacy, the systemin general, not the very, very
evil system in general. And yes, and I' m going to start
straight, but I don' twant to say hello because I don'
t want to be like these evilpeople. Good morning, good morning to
you and good morning to you all. I want to be so little so

(01:38):
I need so much for your grandmotherand for all the people that could happen
to them later, and I thinkit can happen to them and not just
in Cuba. Oh, of course, look at you It' s happened
to you. It' s happenedto me and I' m stubborn and
I stay in the same place andI make people uncomfortable because they have a
good example of your grandmother. Yes, I' ve raised that lady very
well. So if he' sliving right now, you' ve lived

(02:01):
in a similar situation, stand inthe same place and if you suffer,
because the other people also suffered whatthe fuck totally getting us out of the
racism that we don' t wantto go in there, even though sometimes
we go in without realizing or wantingwhy not. How you' re doing
a hecking of the week. Isay one last thing and say how I
' m worth it. There's a saying or I say a lot

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and I love that it' sme my father, that I' m
already your total saying it a lot. I' m so laughing. Good
morning. That' s good Fridayvery well in the knitting bubble I'
m very happy. Okay, that' s it. In short, that
' s fine. It' sokay. Well, I' m being

(02:46):
healthy, all right. You rememberthe eastern episode of Flieback. I don
' t know how to say thename of the show. I think you
make that second season, where she' s like super healthy. She'
s fucking crazy. Well, alreadyif you' ve seen the show it
' s a cult series, youknow, she' s a crazy nut
and in the second season she's like super healthy. Eating healthy vegetables
earlier running. I don' tknow what else and it says what a

(03:07):
bore I am and also allying withthe priest and living an adventure that you
shit because I' m like this. I think I' m going to
give that full moon limit San Juan, I' m going to drive Auntie
crazy and I' m going tomake her up a lot, because I
' m bored of being healthy,running hurts her feet. You have to
be perfect. The impact you makeconstantly reverberates to see. You don'

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t have to do this because we' re kidding, but just let yourself
fuck it up and see that youcan fuck it up. You don'
t have to see that it's perfect, because for perfect are hummingbirds,
I mean, and bees, forexample, I love them. I
get repetitious, yeah, I likethem from afar. I heard a good

(03:49):
tip the other day. I'm a little cold and I put on
that sentitok something I' ve rejectedfor a long time and I' ve
fallen sorry. I hear a factthat he says he knows them when they
' re very old, like theydon' t know when they' re
going to die, but they knowthey' re going to die. Obviously,
they don' t go to thehive to sleep because they don'
t want to be a nuisance foryoung bees to die their corpse already super

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sad and beautiful aunt at the sametime. Yeah, yeah, then they
go to work, they do theirjob and they stay in the flower at
the end of the day, ina little flower and there they sleep in
case they die, they don't give work and work to the hive
and their little bodies have to getthem out. Yeah, super pretty.
How much we' d have tolearn from animals if you saw a bee.
There' s an old question.Bees know that if they bite,

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they die. I think not aunty, because if you' re older,
you have a conscience and you don' t want to get in the way
of killing yourself if you ask someone, also the right- wing ones.
Over there, and I don't have the subject for today. Let

(04:59):
' s hear the lords get upat 4: 00 in the morning,
like I' ll be a littlelater. What a cognac they' re
talking about and it stuns me andbores me. I' m sorry,
I mean this really, I meanobviously already two and let' s say
that' s a pyramid. Thesubject found and their relatives have come out

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a good pair and all these peopledo not pity me, obviously, but
the children, these who come outmaking titties convinced that we are some shit
and that they are the best,charging a thousand euros for working as a
waiter, fifty hours or more livingin the car that has been seen more
than one living in the car.Yeah, man, I feel sorry for

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him because he' s so convincedof something they got into the coconut.
Two in this case are victims.That' s what I think. Yeah,
look, I was thinking. Theother day I was there I am
many, but the other day Isee many documentaries and so and I become
obsessed with things, because in Neurotikaand the other day I was as I

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don' t know, two days. Or it' s been the weekend
eating me eating mushrooms documentaries and Idon' t want to accuse yesterday vile
of seven meters to yes, thatof the Tiktok dances. I saw him
the other day and I saw himin the afternoon. I' m glad
it' s uf as potent thatthrough tito all this, yes, i
mean, oh wigo of the dance. Yeah, and they sang it and

(06:28):
they swallowed it. Well, there' s a lot of kids, more
kids, young people. Yeah,well, adults, young people would be,
they' re not adults, they' re adults. They are caught
when they are very young, yes, type eighteen or nineteen years two.
I want fame. I don't know how to edit videos. It
' s like you' re goingto a church now that edits the video,
because I' m a bad editerand the church sings to you I

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love, sings to me so easy. Well, I don' t have
an anecdote about this, but gettingback to the subject you accept. I
don' t want to accuse anyone, not make this gentleman or that I
don' t believe, but wellimagine, because that' s realities that
make us famous. If this gentlemansees this, he denounces us, then
I don' t want to accusehim. I don' t set it
up and people are crazy. Idon' t want to accuse anyone.

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But after swallowing so many documentaries,documentaries on mushrooms, there' s a
similar dynamic there. I' mgoing to say and the pasta you pay
cel euros other zero euros for thiscourse. Go to the casino I don
' t know where they went todo. Borpis. Gentlemen, this man

(07:32):
I don' t know if youknow. I don' t remember who
he is, because I' vebeen there for months, but there was
someone in Tiktok. I don't know if it' s a clip
taken from YouTube or something, thatdismantled it, that you saw a video
of mud in which you had apig that you flipped and when you were
looking for that license plate of thepig that flipped it was a rental car
it wasn' t yours. Imean, he' s promoting that if

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you have that method of life,of effort, of getting up to the
five morning morning, you can dothe same thing at five morning, the
five afternoon to start, okay andyou do what he says, that you
stay away from the family, thatthey' re not right, that I
don' t know what your friendsthat if they take you the opposite,
oh, I' m same pureand hard you' re going to have

(08:16):
a lot of economic change and becausethat car you rented him pom video for
four hundred euros and it' snot yours that makes it worth a hundred
thousand Caris. There' s somethingin there that doesn' t fit.
Yes, especially be careful when youmeet people who tell you to stay away
from already two no matter what,I' m already talking about relationships or
that, that happens a lot,uh, this is abuse dynamics, manual,
that is, when you meet someone, whether it' s friendship they
happen to be telling you don't stay away from you, from your

(08:41):
family or your friends, because yourun away. That' s a flagg
net, because your friends, yourfriends, the family, the neighbor,
are the ones who can alert youand open your eyes. Many times we
are involved in these dynamics and wedo not realize and it is very easy
to fall aunt. Yeah, I, uh, a few years ago,
she' s having a really,really, really bad move, I mean,
she' s in one moment,she saw me really fucked up,

(09:03):
I mean, it all happened tome, like everything in life you put
a circus on. I' mabout to get bored and give it to
you and grow in midgets. Smallpeople just tell me that I mess with
people is worth a stale saying,but it does happen to you all in
life and day this my only incentivewas to go out because on top I

(09:24):
was low. I could go towork, I had broken dolls and my
only incentive was to go out tothe park and sit with my fluffy,
with my dog in the park tosee it happen and think when I leave,
when I leave, how I'm going to do it. You
know, and I remember a ladyI sang to me because she saw the
sadness and the desire to get outof this plane. I sat next to

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it every day, every day ladiessat down and gave me light. And
my only incentive, apart from puttingthe dog down, was to sit down
with that lady talking because she wasthe only person in my life who listened
to me and came. It's a moment of conversation when he already
had me there as dumb, hetells me he hears why you don'
t come one day. I amnot going to be the church or the
religion I practiced so as not todemonize, because everyone is not evil to

(10:07):
our worship. Let' s saythere' s a lot of young people.
You won' t feel alone thatwe are an exact family and as
you are and aunt, I wastempted to be clear, I felt the
imperative need. I held back lessbadly, because if I wasn' t
here, but I felt the imperativeneed, the temptation to go for the

(10:28):
better. It wasn' t bad. It was a cult. Yeah,
yeah, I mean, I'm not in, uh, but going
on a Saturday afternoon in two hourswas a series. I look at my
recommendation is if you are at avery low moment and I have hope,
you don' t really know.The phone of hope is free twenty-

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four hours psychologist, it is nota sucker like me who is here without
knowing anything phone hope of truth Andabove all, do not go anywhere at
times like that. And not becauseit' s very easy when you'
re very much vibrating low, asthe spirituals of Ibiza say, and I
' m going to mess with them. I too am evil the spiritual ones,

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these mottos that are put up toevery awajaff haade sa yes that gentifies,
Centrifies and all this, because,as they say, these people vibrate
low when you are like this inthis mood. Don' t go to
any of these places, because it' s very easy to fall when you
' re strong. Yeah, becauseit' s more complicated than that.
So, then they do have likethis somewhat twisted dynamic that I' d

(11:35):
say resembles. I wouldn' tsay it' s the same or not,
because I don' t know.You accept. It is clear that
to the person who is doing well, to which studies we will say an
adult, young middle class, Iwill say no working class, middle class
no matter what. There is oneperson who wanders his studies, who you
' re pulling out of one inhis engineering, an average of eight,

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who has a scholarship that has becomea bride, who leave with the cos
colleagues out there and who has astable family nucleus. He' s not
going to leave yet, and he' s not going to pick up the
egg or anything. Obviously, they' re frustrated people. That' s
why I feel so sorry for youand you' ve already seen videos of

(12:16):
guys you say. I' mgonna leave the car talking to my family.
I' ve opened my eyes.This is your fucking one, you
know, and I' m sosorry and you know what makes me so
sorry about that. I mean,I want to treat him like a lot
of tweezers. I do not wantto attack those people who have paid thousands

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of euros for worship found, becauseif we mess with those people maybe,
they think that society does not acceptthem because they belonged, because they belong
to and can do things against theirland to leave. You know what to
say, because there are people whoare very bad at the root to leave

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there. I' m not goingto get into this either, because it
' s true that you' reso right there when they' re inside
they don' t see and,above all, when we' re from
the outside that we see reality obviously, that what leaves things in there is
easier, that they get even deeperinside and that they don' t want
to go out completely because we demonizelives. In the end, they'
re intimate. But I do wantto mess with the message because I'

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m very worried and you had someinteresting news for me today. Oh,
yes, it has to do withit and not because I believe that ninety
- five percent don' t knowthose people in the profile. Two are
already in favour of this. Iwas thinking because the news came out that
week I passed out very little.They had opened an association in favor of,
that is to say, picking upthe men abused by women in the

(13:45):
Valencia albol already Valencian Community, andthen I told Dayana this morning, Dayana,
I want to comment on this becauseit seems absurd to me by way
of denunciation and I have gotten intoGoogle to look a little more And it
turns out that that is open sinceAugust of two thousand twenty- two and
my uncle we have found out now, almost two years later. I mean,

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what' s being done today,we' re going back on our
rights. Yeah, we' renot going in here for two years.
Yeah, I' m really scaredbecause I think I' m taking a
little back to this thing that Ithink everything has to do with. I
' ve been kind of looking atthat too because I, who know the
algorithm, get things out of melike that I love getting out there a

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little bit of the same thing andI' ve been looking at the issue
of women after other cool things inAmerica months ago. The women who are,
as I can see, explain toyou because the terminology in English is
the same, I don' tknow, but I do know what it
means in the current. They arewomen who for me are a completely traditional

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and ultra- right right- wingpolitical side. But basically they' re
women who come back to them andbetween me and comal It' s okay
if you don' t see methe ones who listen to us from Spotify
and other listening audio platforms, theygo back to the origins of traditionality.
We could say then they are womenwho completely renounce what is professional outside the

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home, not professional women and stayat home. They raise a lot of
boys, they have a lot ofkids in a red and white plaid dress
and making a apple pie waiting forthe kids to school the exact yellow bus
America, not exactly. And thenAuntie I' m very afraid, because

(15:33):
I' m totally for my feminism. It' s a lot of feminism
and you can do whatever you want. I love that you do whatever the
real hell you want. I'm freaking out about freedom in every way.
But you have to have a littlejudgment, because freedom has nuances and
the one you do whatever you wantalso has nuances. And the elections.

(15:54):
Behind the elections there are social constructions, there is patriarchy, there are dynamics
of or there are dynamics of play. Then I don' t care if
you stay as a housewife, becauseyou decide. But behind that decision there
must be thousands of things that supportthis decision. I don' t know
if I can explain where I'm going. No, because sometimes I
' m gonna say my opinion myself. Honestly, it seems dangerous to me

(16:18):
that you, being a woman inthe 21st century, in the century that
we are, with all the social, political, economic, cultural currents that
we have lived and all the scopesand sacrifices that have made ours, that
you stay at home to take careof your husband saying that it is your
decision when it is not. Andthis, sir, is a scoundrel.
To me, these men seem cheeky, but a manipulator is an uncetary of

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his house. Hellowe, you havethe one that washes you, the cook,
the one that raises you children,the kangaroo, the wife, because
you have to be good these womenare so good, yes so many or
good. Auntie, you' regetting into me. I don' t
know how they do it. They' re all good reasons and give him
a little something. Oh, andout of interest, I want you to

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be clear that yes, that's the same thing, that' s
weird. This is not the samething that a hundred of them are not
going to get caught and they aregoing to be in their house cooking and
washing their underwear, because, likefifty years ago, without any change,
they have their pilonfacial treatments and tomake pilates there is an exchange. She
' s doing it. I canunderstand, or I want to think positively

(17:26):
that it is an exchange, abit economical with service. But now I
' m more sinic and look alittle further. I have jupiter, I
have sagittarius in jupiter mezpando. Imaginethat from here a few years, these
tits my love will no longer havethem by the neck or, as you
are required, woman of valor,we return found and to the men,

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the innsells this that says that theyare abused by woman of valor, that
this is a message that gives mea fear that shits you. There is
a ja that lives in Dubai toothat we can talk about it how horror
and luvia I do not know ifthe aunt clearly I have swallowed them all,
my mother, that has that morethan she hundred percent or day the
tits is a moment my love that, as much as you ingest, you
will not have it. Pro I' m not messing with the women who
operate. Please, I' mmessing with these men who say there are

(18:10):
women of value and women of novalue and to be a woman of value,
you have to have tits around hereyou have to have ironed hair.
You' ve got to get upfour in the morning, when four girls
are perfect. What the fuck doyou have to keep on your fifteen?
We' re gonna say having threekids taken out by Holy Pussy. We
' re going to and with thepassage of years and erosion, like stones
in the skin. What and youhave to stay the same and do it

(18:36):
all, but that you can't become that I' m like this,
I' m being healthy and it' s, like, healthy in
quotes, doing things like out ofit and I' m stuck on the
walls because I' m bored ofballs and you can' t be wrong.
These women don' t think theycan be wrong, but from here
a few years, these men borethese women and leave you mommy and how
you stay, because I will alreadyhave lovers, you think, you don

(18:57):
' t check for your doubts.I love that you have lovers. Look,
I' m telling you the onlygood thing I' m getting out
of this, why to punish thatone already for the decision they' ve
made. Yeah. I want tobe compassionate. I' m very critical
and they' re gonna give meshit, but I' ve seen a
lot and no, I can't feel it. They tell me ah

(19:18):
is that the decision already, butI think these decisions of them lie already.
I think it' s a lie, a lie, a lie,
and we' re told no.And there' s ultra- rights politics
there, there' s conservativeism andtwisted things to control us. A few
years ago, messages are changing,but the answer is the same. They
want to control women anyway. Theydon' t know how. A few

(19:40):
years ago a message was if yousleep with a few snobs, you have
a free sex life, doing whateveryou want was through spirituality. Not how
this one of the message that horrifiedme was moved. You' re down
with your energy realizing and aunty whatit was like. Yes, a few
years ago you saw a stream thatwill continue, but it will go down

(20:02):
a lot because they are changing thesubject. The way to control us isn
' t moving. But basically itwas if you have many lovers, if
you have a sexual me as loom, as they do, also not freely.
If you' re single or whatever. It' s wrong, because
it lowers you like the energy frequencythat explain it in modern to reach the

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young clear, that is, theenergy lowers you from one other lover.
You have to spend seven years withoutbeing with someone else so that the energy
of the man you' re withwill cloud us. You' re sad,
you' re sad, but you' re not telling me. It
' s a way to control ourselveson a sexual level so we don'
t have leagues. Now they alsocontrol us or and try in these ways

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also these dynamics. And this goesa little bit with the insells. You
know how they control you. Notme I' m already going to find
out It doesn' t work.My encouraging seven- year energy message with
celibacy or being with the same person. I' ll raise the prices for
everything so you can' t leavethe house. It' s just that
there' s a lot of ways, it' s just that that'

(21:14):
s right, that' s poverty, that' s to say, we
' re working on poor poor littlething, and you know how you relate
to people in your house or goingout there, you can go for a
walk in the park and aha.But if you go out there, you
' re going to have something,a coke, like three euros, for
example. I' m making itup in a bar. If you don
' t get out, you don' t get involved, if you don

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' t give yourself money, you' re less likely to get out there.
It' s very good and especiallybecause there' s a message from
these men. Not men, thisis not men lords, who says that
if we go out to parties,a woman who gives us courage, the
woman who values us does not goout to party, of course and that
you will lose the years in whichyou are of value, because when you

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are, they say that when youare thirty years old you go So,
we are no longer of values,we are not seven years old, Jaya,
person or not we are no longerof another, because we are thirty
we are lost. Already one thinghappens less bad, less bad, because
I don' t want to bewhat horror really, what horror aunt.
And yes, and I think that, taking a little back from these gentlemen,

(22:21):
I am very afraid, because theyoung people of today bring these speeches.
Yes, auntie, it makes someaunty what she says I was going
to mix two news, but thisone that comes to mind what they say
And it has to do with sexuality, that menstruation is an invention of women.
Yeah, the showy thing, butKarin, you want me to rub

(22:41):
your blood in your face, havegrandmas, suck it, or whatever'
s in my face. He wantsme to get a red food dye syringe
and shove it through my pussy soyou can see that I' m bleeding.
You' ve seen if we're controlled by hos, since clitoris
doesn' t exist. You don' t know how to fuck manolo,

(23:03):
you manolo what you say the clitoriand doesn' t exist. You don
' t know you' ve neverbeen with a woman. You know that
you have a super developed criteris ortell her what the penis is When you
watch a video of this it's three minutes how a fetus grows and
becomes a baby until it comes outof the pussy and her mother, the
moment it' s determined if geneticsex is going to be male female,

(23:27):
my mother, if it' sgoing to be boy, girl, boy
girl x is at the time theclitoris develops or not, Kari you have
hyperdeveloped critoris. Let' s sayit so it' s a penis they
' re gonna put you to goeh why that' s more squeaky than

(23:48):
how it' s possible for thatresentful feminist to say felt, because you
don' t know the cocks I' ve run ja, but the lotus
is true. I' ve eatena lot, crawled a lot of Actitos
Hyper developed, already, some undeveloped. If they' re all very rich.
That yes, yes, then Ido not want to mess with them,

(24:11):
in particular because I do not knowthe individual personal life of each one
to not see collective. I dowant to get in, man,'
cause I' m scared, man, I' m scared or the message
how a man' s gonna dogood? Yeah, I' m coming,
there are men, I' mgoing there are men who have been
mistreated by women, obviously, yes, but what' s not right is

(24:37):
that they are used and done thingslike to say look at pringadas. I
make an association, too. You' re going to shit, I don
' t know what to do withthe target, so it' s going
to embarrass the other side and becomelike a war, that is, who
has the most exact right. Thatis the problem, the end and the
objective that it has exactly. Ifnot, I am very sorry for a

(24:57):
man who is suffering badly from psychologicalor physical treatment, to go to a
police station and report that he ismistreating his wife and that the guard is
laughing at him, because this hasbeen heard. Yeah, man, it
' s been seen. I amvery sorry and I hope people can be
objective, that first of all,before being women or men or non-
binary people. Whatever it is,we are people, people in the world

(25:19):
beings. The problem is that thereare these distinctions and they are made precisely
because the distinctions for evil are mostlymade by them, because, unfortunately,
by us for statistics and for history. And so there are men suffering,
obviously, of course there are,that there are twisted women, of course

(25:41):
they do mark the TTCHER. Thereare racist women CSI, there are very
bad women, but we suffer more. It takes a problem from this disk
into problem that patriarchy is created thesystem has been created for them. I
' ve always said if a manknows how to use all the profits and
bonuses that society gives him can bevery bad, very twisted, very bad,

(26:03):
very twisted. I found out andthis isn' t what Auntie tells
us. They tell us women arebad. Women are evil among you,
women are envious. And they haven' t said this since they were kids.
Yes, and I said so Ihave also fallen clear, I also
clear until I was built. Butthe message is this, it' s
not no. You can' tbe friends, I' m sorry my
friends saved me. I' mso sorry and there are men who have

(26:26):
made me a lot of pupa.Well, almost all my ills have been
for them. What do you thinkI' m gonna say? Then we
have to get a little out ofcertain speeches and understand that yes, there
are battered men, of course,but most of us are women. It
' s what there is, totallywhat there is. And violence is not
only exercised through the beatings, theshits, the insults. There are many
ways to be violence, for example, such as after wa tran trash way,

(26:48):
economic violence, aha, social violenceand violence because to me they are
my God what I am going tosay. But they' re women to
me. And this is not forand ace. That' s for them
women with two legs and a holein the center who breed and stop and
stop to give labor to the system. It' s basically this and we

(27:12):
get into monogamy. Monogamy basically andmacro and the way in which the subject
of marriages and relationships of two isconstituted. And all this is basically about
the issue of providing labor, thesystem that we stop, that we women
stop contributing and that the economy staysin the family core, that is,

(27:33):
not. That economy expands us,does not move before and in many cultures
was all loving. In fact,even less bad cultures still exist like this,
but it was all pliamorous and everythingwas for everyone. Then he got
into the church, politics, hegot into the oligarchy. I don'
t know if that' s theright word. Well, they' re
getting in. The economic and politicalinterests began to penetrate it and closed the

(27:57):
issue of marriages, with all thisCatholicism and Christian guilt. Basically because of
this, because of the issue ofland, that women can' t inherit
things and that everything is left handof men and we go through the ring,
because the day I' m gettingmarried, I' m not getting
married, uh, I mean,it' s not news. I'
ll probably get married because other thanI want a party, but I can

(28:18):
do that party without having to signa paper and without having to tell you
if I want tomorrow with the personI marry. And this is so,
if he dies or I die,the other person has a bit of financial
coverage, exactly and you go throughthe ring, it' s exactly for
your kids to be covered. Yougo through the hoop that if you buy
a spoiler floor, I think notfor inheritance, you go through the hoop.

(28:44):
And because if your partner gets sick, if I have a polylove relationship,
I mean, I have a three- way relationship, yeah, and
I have you and me. AndPepe is good, and you and I
are a couple, or we're married to Pepe No. If you
' re sick, God forbid.I' m asking for a work permit

(29:06):
for your income. If Pepe getssick and for me she' s also
my partner, there are three ofus, I don' t get permission,
because I can' t have twoexactly two marriages. It' s
all done and I think it's great. I, for example,
am a monogamous generation, but youhave to see all the perspectives and have
the freedom to live your life,as long as you do not harm as

(29:27):
you want and that the system allowsyou or does not put you at exact
hindrances. I think it' snot a criticism of his systems or the
modes and systems of relationship or ofrelating. Not if wanting that cash is
romantic, because monogamy, polyamour andall the ways to relate hierical. What
' s the name of the polyamouroushierarchy. Well, there are many ways.

(29:48):
Not polysoltry or singleness, which arealso the way of life, are
valid, all are valid as longas they satisfy you and make you happy.
No, we don' t messwith this, not everyone chooses,
but we do mess with the systemand the dynamics behind it and why it
exists. I mean, I've been there for many years. They
' re a monogamous relationship. She' s been very happy and she'
s been polyloving, single cop,who was more polysoltry. What I practiced

(30:11):
and was happy was also my choice. But it did not leave that does
not mean that I criticize monogamy,the structure behind monogamy and why it exists
and that it also criticizes polysoltry.I' ve also criticized it as a
way I think it' s thecritic too. If people sometimes forget it.
I' m not cute, becauseI' ve chosen it, because
homonogamy gives you the mind, nothoney or do. I' ve seen

(30:32):
that from my parents. I thinkso, be happy, but criticize it,
deconstruct it question it and continue tochoose it, but with a base
of construction and self- criticism,because that makes us grow. Of course
it' s like what we weretalking about before. Before we start.
I was talking to him tomorrow.I have a monogamous relationship. I have
a denial right now, at thatpoint in my life, because I don

(30:52):
' t feel like having the jobthat I think is opening up the relationship.
I don' t know right now, I don' t have the
energy. Of course, the otherside too, that is, the other
side of my partner, also hasto do his job. If you agree.
If not, this had to talka lot of conversations, but for
my part, I don' teven think about it right now because of

(31:14):
the work it involves. Yes,then I have my choice here and I
respect others, but consciously, ofcourse and respecting that, yes, the
skinny ones and aunty is the squareof Ubay that you are telling me.
I was cutting her off because ofthe blonde. That account. No.
If I charge forty p forgiveness forthe tone pardon, if I charge forty
thousand my boyfriend but I can chargeless than forty thousand and ask him in

(31:40):
an interview talks about this, hetells me, but if your boyfriend is
a very sorry doctor or is verygood, that he is doing the specialty
of cardiology, I don' tknow what, I don' t know
how many and charges a thousand euros, but he is a high- value
man who has studied a lot,that I don' t know what,
that I don' t know howmany, that I know, is a

(32:00):
guy who is ten, not becauseyes and charging less. It' s
awful. Then you don' twant high- value, handsome cult,
going to the gym, taking care, being trained, being cardiologist. No,
you, what you want to bethe pasta go with good, I
was going to say something or girlwin it, you earn my money it
' s little, but it's mine clearly, of course or earn
yours and she' s supposed toearn money, she' s supposed to

(32:23):
say, but she wants more thantwenty- two million than what we were
talking about in the previous chapter ofthe podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
To me the subject of women andmen of value is also called women
of high value, men of littlevalue. There' s an anguish.
It' s just that we're just we' re we' re
we' re we' re we' re we' re we' re

(32:47):
we' re we' re we' re we' re we' re
we' re we' re we' re we' re we' re
we' re we' re we' re we' re we' re
we' re we' re we' re we' re we' re
we' re we' re we' re we' re we' re
we' re we' re we' re we' re we' re
we' re we' re we' re we' re we' re
we' re we' re.That I did look at myself when I
started going to therapy and such Iwanted because I was getting ready, I
was growing up, I was learningit in other ways of being no and
I wanted an equal relationship. Somy psychologist told me, Mira, you
make a list of what you want, what you don' t want and

(33:07):
what you can offer. What youcan' t realistically offer. Nea sometimes
we don' t freak out alittle realistically. And yes, I understand
that sometimes he says mostly after he' s 30. I want this and
this and this and this I'm not going to allow in a relationship.
No, but I' m laughingbecause sometimes I' m very intransigent.
Good perfect. There are all protections, no, no, but there

(33:28):
are limits. I think we allhave to put a limit on life,
especially after having suffered dynamics or whatever, no and the total traumas then I
have crossed a line and said lookat this from now on. I'
m not going to allow this andI' m in another relationship, whether
male or female, not more thanmore than male, maybe than where I
' ve experienced violence, but thereare things that are more flexible and I
understand this. You get a listat home and look at me when the

(33:51):
next person I want I want isthis and these limits because they' re
going to hurt me and because Iunderstand that they don' t work for
me. I don' t wantthem there well, but high and low
value. Relationships are built. Sure, relationships are built. And because even
though everything is a list and youget a suitor like this is women,
men and vicevers is the history ofSpain, that meets all the requirements.

(34:14):
Apparently it' s not gonna bea pink road. I don' t
mean I think people are thinking.Yeah, do this, this, this
c- chac check, it's gonna be okay, spoiler, no,
no lie. It' s justthat I have a super- road
relationship of roses and flat little hardcam. That doesn' t exist.
That' s a lie. They' re selling us things on Instagram that

(34:35):
don' t exist. I've already seen the idyllic struggle. There
' s a couple I' mnot gonna say the name. How curious
mind now the mind always and youknow them ah but not famous. It
' s not from our closest circle. I' m gonna be fucking evil
and looking to set up where Ihave. I' m gonna get out

(34:57):
of what' s good to seeWait for a my got s It'
s very strong. I' mnot gonna say the name because we'
re being sued. Oh, that' s not gonna be idyllic anymore,
and everybody knows it. They're not hylic nadi and they' re
selling us a dynamic. There's a perfect relationship and we know the
reality. But yes, but let' s see if I know the reality,

(35:20):
that you saved me from that reality. And I' m the reality
that I have no contact with thosepeople I know from the ejito. I,
if I don' t have one, I made that reality. People
who are around like they' renot going to see it completely and sell
us a relationship that' s nottrue. It' s like this million,
because this example, because we knowit and we can talk about it,

(35:40):
comes to microsint that people know,but it' s a lie.
It' s a lie It doesn' t exist. And above all,
and this message I repeat a lotaunty, because I had to repeat it
a lot relationships. Love must nothurt in that I agree. Love doesn
' t have to hurt If ithurts there' s one problem, but
the other is the other, theother age is the tret, and if

(36:04):
there' s conflict, it dependson what the conflict is. It'
s fried, it hurts clear,there' s pain and pain there I
go clear and there' s alot of uru and a lot of people
out there on Instagram and we goback to the gentlemen these that tell us
that the woman doesn' t hurtand if it hurts, get out of
there and people, to the minimumof conflict, run away and don'

(36:25):
t build healthy or lasting relationships,among other things. Basically because of this
because the messages that are selling uslies the other one. You, you
can love, you, you canlove, you can last, but the
other is the other and the otherhas its traumas, its moves, its
struggles and we do what we canthe typical one. This applies to a
lot. I believe in these youngmen, the best alone but poorly accompanied.

(36:47):
And then I also see a lotof people who are in pairs that
it' s a disaster that alsoapply the best known bad guy that good
for knowing about such a saying hostI' ve seen for every week.
I get in here on Spanish france. Stay? Stay? Stay? Uh,

(37:09):
and I don' t agree witheither of them. Of course not
better and see that when I havehad a break I have never made single
forever I will fuck what I wantand bye lie I have fallen in love
intensely. I am if I amand I do not regret anything and see
that I have more work. Ihave another one and I don' t

(37:31):
regret anything. I promise. Andwhen I' ve gotten into a relationship
and I' ve seen and startedto suffer for whatever it is and I
haven' t agreed to that relationship, I haven' t stayed for the
better I' ve known that betterto know it doesn' t happen either.
It is that you have to bevery brave to leave a relationship,

(37:52):
especially when it is healthy, yesand the person is good. Yeah,
' cause that happened to me.Yeah, I' m with my Golden
Retrieve now. I speak it,we want to listen to the podcast,
because the previous one not the previousYuseph kiss I love you we want shit.

(38:16):
I left the relationship being a healthyrelationship and he being a very good
person. And now five years,I think or something, oh my got
and go on or on. Yeah, you know what' s going on.
It is that whoever leaves him weepshim or mourns him or whatever he
says I shit in everything that cameto him, but the one who leaves

(38:37):
him also has the mourning and criesalso has it bad. Clear about all
that when you are a person,let' s say I don' t
believe, it moves badly, butgood in quotation that you are a decent
person, that you have behaved welland still had a healthy relationship clear that
yes that fucks, yes it smellsand above all because on a social level
and from outside the gallery, youdon' t know the whole story and

(38:59):
you see the person who leaves youas bad person. I must thank my
personal experience that I believe or thatis my perception that here, in our
environment in common and separately, noone looked bad already, but rather that
there was a lot of surprise host, but they looked like two people that
in the end the time has passedand it was we have finished and I
am inventing the importance of the goodfriends and the good friends surrounded. The

(39:22):
other day I read that we arereflections of the people with whom we surround
ourselves totally surrounded by good person,because they do notice moments as well as
ruptures and murky things. We talkedabout in cells, we talked about me.
I wanted to say that so quickly, it has nothing to do with
it. And yes the other dayI was sent for instagram by a friend

(39:45):
from Mexico a news piece about therock that says birds don' t exist.
But you didn' t know this. Well, well, since there
' s a movie that I do, there' s a movie that'
s going to say it' sall like a chapter that you know how

(40:07):
to say that in the end thesky ends is pen cardboard of faith.
You can' t punch harder inthe air, because maybe you can'
t find pen cardboard. What doI do when Mr Bar doesn' t
put the dome is and closes everything. Yes, what fear in the Simpsons
does predict everything, for that too, because in the women' s saga

(40:31):
they have no clitoris and no menstruas. It' s not coming. The
birds don' t exist exactly andthe earth is flat, because he did
send it to me and he toldme dayana is happening. It was in
Barcelona, it was here by theEnglish Court. I think he' s
in Catalonia. That' s it, that' s it You know it
' s scary. Man, I' m sorry. Birds don' t

(40:51):
exist. And the most interesting thingabout this is that the current, the
theory of pigeons, pigeons is worthit, that pigeons are drones that go
a pair of controls. The mostinteresting thing about this is that this was
a theory, an experiment. Let' s just say he created a kid.

(41:12):
I don' t know about America. Here I don' t remember
the news well, because I readit like that laughing at me llamacro that
the kid said let' s check. I' m going to check and
prove all the nonsense that people canswallow, if they' re more than
I know I make up fifty peoplebelieving the same thing and for x amount
of time for you to see howeasy it is to control us and do

(41:32):
we believe things that don' texist. And the kid started this dynamic
and it turns out that after awhile he had to go out and explain
himself and say to see that Imade it up that I didn' t
and they said you sold out ofthe system. You' ve been bought.
He doesn' t represent us anymoreBirds don' t exist. I
' m sorry if it ends upin my car. Then I' m
freaking him out. I' malready freaking out. This is a message

(41:59):
for you to see how easy itis for young people to get lost in
messages that don' t make senselike the delados, about the gentlemen who
incel these who hate us and whocreate programs like Valencia' s for mistreated
people to face us totally. AndI can make one last complaint. I

(42:20):
don' t know if we're finishing up. We didn' t
have ten minutes left. I thinkthis is more of a change. Uh,
I had to file a complaint withthe phone numbers that call you that
I' m fucking colendo thinking it' s from the hospital because they'
re going to operate on me andI haven' t complained about the commercials,
because the commercials do their job.It' s okay that you change

(42:40):
your fellow geetics already go at noonalways uncle now 4: 00 and 10
00 tomorrow what you say. Yeah, that I call the chiteta,
I don' t care. Thankyou, but by day wide I have
told the Chavala hears tell your bossthat they are to you is PM.
I say they already are. Works. Guilt. Thanks like that. I
' m waiting, but whatever,why they call me and hang me yes.

(43:07):
It happened to me, too Idon' t know. I take
it and I say tell me Idon' t say yes anymore because they
say that if there is now likea new scam that is said that they
can use this audio to put itas a follow on a recording and make
it a contract of whatever it is. And or tell me three seconds and
hangs up. What' s this? I don' t understand. I

(43:30):
want to file a complaint. Idon' t know what it is.
If someone can really answer us andtell us what people or what purpose it
is for you to be phoned forthree seconds and hanged. Please tell us,
why doesn' t it happen tome once, it happens to me
twice a day. That' sscary. This is because I get in
and I consent to cuckices and somethingfor sure I give yes to everything because

(43:52):
I don' t find out anything. It' s just that there are
newspapers. This is that this isthe data session, the impoverishment I'
m going to keep going. Thereare newspapers where you get into a news
story or lineh is good for whichyou get into the newspaper' s link
via Instagram, for example. Andfor and if you don' t want

(44:12):
to accept the cuokis, you haveto pay two euros. What do you
say. Yeah, I' mfreaked out, I don' t or
I get cookies or pay, youpay me for the life transfer, I
bump into the money or if youdon' t want to pay me money
or give me the cookis, youdon' t have access to my information

(44:34):
website that this flips that I knowof a newspaper. Okay, let'
s see. If I go tothe Kiosk, it' s worth three
bucks a newspaper. But fucking brother, if I' m giving you web
visits, I don' t know, I don' t know. I
think we' re going back inevery single day more and more I'
m about to take my briefcases andgo to the country and now it'
s going out to four ladies.Yeah, go, go, but from
Spain, well, yeah, we' ll go, we' ll go,

(44:55):
but before we go, we're gonna report it, we'
re gonna gas and what' sup with this. So if you'
re going to see the countryside,because you don' t see anything,
or I' m fed up aunt, I' m fed up that if
the drones, that if the birds, that if you burp them, that
if you don' t eat aheart, because it' s poor facken

(45:15):
poor short, what it is butto see what I do is that it
is that I am fed up,but I try to take it all with
humor, because if I took itvery little when I was twenty, ten
years ago, ten years ago,I would be like all the time with
my frown. And that' swhy I already have some wrinkle of expression
and I don' t want toperpetuate it. The triangle of shame.
No, as they say in fashionno yes, yes, so because they

(45:37):
go like that, yes, yes, but they walk very cool. I
like how they parade better now thanbefore. It' s like they walk
aggressively, like they do. Imean, fashion to me, I have
a theory. Oh. I don' t know, I don' t
know, it' s like anindustry in which no, no, it
doesn' t belong. No,and he doesn' t call me much
more of a complaint either. Manhow hiputon you' ve done with the

(46:00):
wey cari parro gnawed at my hip. Brother Hostia listened to us. Yeah,
man who' s been through withthe pair of weys who are gonna
rebuild them. Brother, what ishappening with Barcelona, Via in Barcelona or
surroundings, Yes, what happens BarcelonaCity Council. Yesterday we were talking about

(46:22):
it the work and so and wewere very upset about the subject that the
Meridiana has cut, not the stepof thanks for the formula. You cut
it yesterday or before you did andyou put cement guan c But this is
what it is. And then we, I' ll tell you where you
saw it. I don' tknow if they follow me one day and
I have a problem, but Ilive. If I' m gonna say

(46:42):
what the fuck you don' tlive in a place I just want to
say. I like fart. I' m very healthy. I want danger
I want plot twist not out toncuraa man. It' s good the
one with falib There' s onewith glasses that come out the titus sin
Auntie. That' s a goblin. Yeah, fuck' s a priest,

(47:05):
no forgiveness, but I' dfuck him and be rude to priests.
No, no, no, youhad somewhere. Yeah, in growth
it' s bad maybe it's aunty and it' s like super
good centrified. It' s nothere anymore because the neighbors are kind of
very squeaky about this kind of thing. But there is. The infrastructure is

(47:28):
like super bad created and the streetsare fatal in Barcelona, eh, and
there are no floors and then thisrock goes up to the silver. Hello.
You know how the urquinaone area isbig way. That' s where
the whole independence movement went, allurquinaone down. If this is called via

(47:51):
layetana, yes all that and themeridian is also a bloodthirsty out there,
yes all that. The cement onthe road is full of marks that it
takes bad cement out of the containersthat they burned and you' re putting
the cements to make rap is tufasyour furius ay no and you don'
t put and you don' tput that. And then and where they

(48:14):
live, where my relatives live,I' m sorry there' s also
some bumps. I go on amotorcycle that I sometimes say how a yun
di is lost and they put mein their cab and I fall off the
bike and who we blame, becausefirst he calls the poor tail the blame
or but it is no longer there. I see, gentlemen, that way
the curves of the waxes. Yes, of course, you lie, you

(48:36):
lie, you keep blaming them forangles. Ma' am, you'
re not here anymore. Clear widththe guilt of returning them again. I
have it with these gentlemen, thelords of the millionaires who want here hears
that Barcelona is a tourist park forthe giris and more that they will be,
that they will put the. Howcan it be that the return to
Cicrista France is going to pass throughBarcelona, If this is Spain, what

(49:00):
a horror return of France will befor France good to do Barcelona. No.
We' re not being expelled fromthe living and Hostia. I'
ll say sixteen and I' mthirty- four. I almost all the
way in Barcelona. Like the onewho says to me, I' m
very sorry, but I think he' s thinking. Yeah, that'
s gonna be a Paris. Iheard this the other day too. I
take the words Cities like Madrid willdo something twenty years behind European cities like

(49:25):
Paris. In Paris, right nowthe tato no longer lives, They take
the outskirts and they have to goto work in Paris and you to the
center by train or with whatever.This is going to happen, unfortunately,
and there are people who manifest andsay and then come out. The four
five say that what you want thatgives money, that our city is in
the center of that boy that maybeyou already in a privileged place and you

(49:49):
don' t pick them up atfive in the morning to make pulpi.
That' s why you don't have any money. Clear here in
Pringados, i e as two wouldsay. We' re leaving. Thank
you so much for inviting me back. This is your space, Chao,
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