February 14, 2023 • 32 mins
It's Valentines Day, and Hip-Hop Hidden Gems is bring the love. We start out by talking about some our favorite Hip-Hop love songs. The we get to our main artist of the episode, the legendary Angela Winbush. It's a bit of a curve ball from Mo & Willie, but it's a beautiful one. Come with us as we bask in the glory that is Angela.
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Yeah, Yeah, it's your favoritemc no what all Man, Just want
to give a shout out to myguy to Mojoe King always showing a love.
Check out my latest two albums,Soul Surgery produced by og No for
Smoking and The Machine produced by Outcast. Shout out to the features Patty hun
Show Backward, Sweetie Brna Run fromWise Elite lyvers is only y'all know what's
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going on out here? Man,tune in to some good to hip hop.
The underground is alive and well intwenty twenty two, and you're listening
to hip hop hitting gyms, peaceshit' your icy getting too high? But
have you missed the night dreams andyour nice sleep? Welcome to the hip
Hop Hitting Gems podcast, where wecelebrate the classics that time has for guy.
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Hip Hop Hitting Gems is all aboutcelebrating the music that has shaped multiple
generations. This by weekend podcast,hosted by the Mojo King and Willie Freeley,
will focus on the undervalued and underappreciatedaspects of the yard. We will
revisit each track discuss its strengths,history and impacts on the culture, whether
it's a sense of nostalgia or achance to learn something new. There will
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always be a celebrating come hearty words. I don't see how you start any
Valentine's Day special according to Hip Hopwithout talking about LLLS I Need Love.
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But Willie, you actually remember asong that was on par with it out
around the same time. Let meread you a piece of don't you know?
This is heavy D and the boys. You see, before I wasn't
ready for the things you wanted.I couldn't give you what you deserve.
But now the tables are turned fromme, sweetheart. You see, I'm
making records now, you know,you know, getting paid and all that.
So now I think I think it'stime to tell you that I love
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you, because I do, don'tyou know? And then like the singer
comes in and they're like, ooh, don't you know, don't you know?
You know whatever? But like it'sactually legit an open letter back to
his girl. I Need Love cameout in July, don't you know?
Came out in October same year?Oh wow, Yeah. LLL is the
poet for rappers. All right,I'm gonna write a song about a girl,
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and it's gonna be the most tenderthing you ever heard in your life.
You know, and I feel likethat was his I'm gonna write the
love song of love songs, andno one will be able to touch this.
And these were like the two smashlove songs like these are like,
oh my gosh, look at whathip hop has done. The word I
was trying to find for these whenI thought about to prepare for the podcast
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is vulnerability. The thing that separatesit's an R and B song with a
rapper on it from it's a rappersong about a girl to it's a rapper
song about his girl to what makesit an actual love song is that vulnerability.
Every rap album from the Golden Agehad some form of a love song
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on it. You're Right, You'reright to be your Man came with Blue
Magic, Yeah, which was probablyfor him a major career achievement to do
a song with Blue Magic. Yes, I assume Hamburg feel the same thing
about the Shy Lights. These arelegendary groups there before our time. Actually,
yeah, you know, our parentswere telling us about them. So
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if we're talking to a younger generation, they might have no clue who they
are, but you might want togo back and listen to them and check
out Blue Magic. I guess theirbiggest hits were Sideshow and Three Ring Circus
and the Shy Lights. Actually theirbiggest song was Old Girl, and I'll
admit I loved all of me Kaneand Barry White together. That was on
Paste of Chocolate. And those arethe types of songs I appreciate when it's
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more than just baby, I loveyou. Here's a rose, you know.
I like when the songs that's somethingto say. You mentioned how Golden
age hip hop would have one songat least that were along those lines of
love. A lot of them werestorytelling. Yep, I remember Renee by
the Lust Boys. Oh yeah,there's a couple of Ripean rocket mornes.
I can think of Mahogany and what'son your mind? Now, I know
what's song in your mind? Whatsong was that sampling? I'm curious,
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Yeah, I'm curious. That's right. And yet, like you have this
story and you can see all ofit. He gives you what things look
like, who's around the sounds he'shearing. And when you talk about a
little bit of vulnerability, he's openingwith a story about a girl that dissed
him on the subway. Fewers downthe line after it Met the Man and
Mary J. Blige. All INeed This really is a true love song,
right, and that's not something that'scommon in the girl's song quote unquote
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on an album that, of courseis from the classic Marvin Gaye and Tammy
Terrell. You're all I need toget by Met the Man is an underrated
writer. Oh, absolutely absolutely nothingto make a man feel better than the
woman queen with a crown, that'dbe down for whatever. There's a few
things that's forever, my lady.Late. We can make war, make
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babies. Back when I was nothing, you made a brother feel like he
was something. That's why I'm withyou to this debut No Front. And
even when the skies were gray,you would rub me my back and say,
baby, it'll be okay, likehis whole thing is. I was
down and out and you were withme. So I'm gonna put into work
and get somewhere so that I canmake things good for us and that you
usually just don't get that anymore.And methods pen has always been crazy.
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Later in Time is a bliss andNeo make me better. Yeah, just
the title tells me that there's somethingthat's going to be there, right And
That's the thing. Fabless stayed withthe title. You know, he had
his little swagger in it, butevery point of the song was no matter
what I am, when I'm withyou, I'm even better. Yeah.
See, he's actually saying that heneeds her to be better. I'm already
bossing, I'm already fly. Butif I'm a star, then she is
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the sky. Wow. There's onemore song that I want to talk about.
Yeah, it's funny because the song, I would not say it very
vulnerable, except when you put itin perspective of who did it, and
that is pretty thug by Prodigy.Well that's a lot harder than I was
expecting. Well, the song iscrazy, and the video's even crazier.
They're shitting outs and stuff. Oneof the more controversial lines was that he
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said, I'm paraphrasing because I neverremember quote you said. In the next
life, you'll be the dude andI'll be to be. Wow. And
then a hook is throwing back toApache with gangs to be to start with
yea ganks the bookhead. It kindof gives me the feeling that his intent
was to show I got out ofprison and I'm still hard. Well,
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I think He was completely trying todo a love song, but he wanted
to do it the Bob deepway.It was interesting take for Prodigy. It
was a gamble. Yeah, hewas really experimenting at this time because remember
he did the other song Ryan withNo Reason, and he didn't rhyme in
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you by the Mighty nineteen Media Group. All right, Willie, we're throwing
this slight curveball here because this isthe Valentine's Day special, and we talked
about some classic hip hop love songs. Yes, but we also talked about
some classic soul music to help makesome of these songs come true. Since
we talk about hitting gems and it'sthe Valentine's Day special, I want to
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talk about one of my favorite Rand B singers. Who's that Well,
this woman has sold over ten millioncoup She has produced, written, and
arranged for some of the biggest namesever in R and B, and I
think she's still hitting gem amongst thesenames. Amongst these names, she worked
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with Stevie Wonder. How do youhave more names after that? Well,
yes, that that might be acynical name. Yeah, that's huge,
but go ahead, I'm sorry.She's worked with the Eisley Brothers. Oh
quite intimately, my head get toadd a little bit, all right.
She's worked with Stephanie Mils, SheenieEaston. She's worked with Janet Jackson.
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Oh, that's awesome. And ifyou want a couple of hip hop names,
she's worked with Curtis Blow Wow allthe Way to Little Kim good Night.
She's sampled for Foxy Brown's probably herbiggest hit. And still when I
say her name, most people willhave no idea who she is. You're
ready, Yeah, that's hard tobelieve. Angela win Bush, You're right.
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If you list all those people,that's not who I thought you would
go with. That is not someonei'd go, oh, yeah, you
mean Angela. No, not atall, Man, I didn't know she
did all of that. Yep.So we're gonna go through a little bit
of her stuff. Highlight two songsreally, you know, we like the
Highlight one, but there's just twowho really did talk about Yeah, So
Angelo Winbush and I have to keepmaking sure I say it right. I'm
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skipping ahead a little bit, butI will tell you this. The first
time I heard her name said outloud, Royan Eisley was saying it,
and I assume he was just puttingit a little bit extra on because he's
Ryan Eisley, right, So hewas like Angela, yeah, and I'm
like, her name is Angela?Was? And then I was like,
no, wait, her name reallyis Angela. And it's fitting that she
has a unique name. All right. So Angelo Winbush was born in Saint
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Louis, Missouri. She grew upin the choir. I can't tell you
how many of the singers that welove were from church and church. Yeah.
Absolutely, that's the proving ground foralmost all of Motown and Stacks and
all of that, and all theway up to like the Alicia Keys era,
because that meant once a week youhad to perform, and you were
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expected to sing well and sing passionatelyabout something that you believed in, but
also sing in a way that isgoing to actually foster a response from an
audience that's right there to give youweekly feedback on how well you did.
By the time you go into showbusiness. Sometimes that's easier than saying in
the church, I believe it.As a child, she also learned to
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play piano. She ended up goingto Howard University in Washington to study architecture.
Architecture architecture. Wow. Yeah,she was not playing while in knowledge.
She was in a trio winning talentshows all over the place, and
she sent a solo demo out andsomehow it got to the hands of Stevie
Wonder. He liked her and addedher to Wonder Love, which was his
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backup group. Yeah. There,she got to sit in on sessions of
how Stevie was putting stuff together.That's quite a way to learn in case
we're talking to a younger generation.And actually, because Stevie Wonder predates us,
little stuffs. Stevie Wonder and I'mnot exaggerating. Here was the Prince
or the Michael Jackson of his time. Absolutely just a prodigy. From there.
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Another member of One to Love introducedher to Renee More and they formed
Renee and Angela. They could signlike Capitol Records, and they dropped three
albums on Capitol Limited success. Yowas the kid Desmond Pow, host of
Hip to the Games where the brillianceof basketball and hip hop's past and present
is genuinely appreciated, and you're listeningto hip hop hidden gems, and we
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are a part of the nineteen mediagroup family. One of their songs was
a song called My First Love,which is a beautiful ballad. It was
remade by Avant and Keke Wyatt andbecame a hit again. They redid that
particular song. Yeah, they justremade it, all right. But it's
funny to me because I remember thatsong in thinking that that's an amazing song,
not connecting it back to Angela Winbush, right, which is a repeated
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theme throughout her career. So that'show she gets to be a hidden gym
because most of the stuff you mentionedin the intro is not well known by
people. Right after that, theyleft Capital and they signed with Mercury and
then they dropped the album A Streetcalled Desire. That album really started their
takeoff. I think you'll remember hera song I'll be good it was,
yeah, which was what I wasmentioning foxing with jay Z. Right,
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they have a song. It's thereal thing. Now. I don't think
many people will remember that one.But what I really like about it is
the video because there is an actorin the video that everybody will know and
now I think he started out asa video vixen, and that is Don
Cheatle, Don Cheetle, Don Cheatle. When our great African American actors that
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wild, so it made sense whenDon cheatles with Kendrick Lamar years later,
right, Yeah, and that wasa great video too. That was it
was. It was exceptional, butside not for a second. That's not
necessarily unprecedented. So I don't knowif you could think of any but I
know I got too offhand. Iknow Quame had his cousin dancing in his
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videos back in the day, andnow his cousin goes by the name Vin
Diesel. That's amazing. I didn'tknow that that is Kuama's cousin. That's
the only one I know about it, So tell me the ones. You
know that's a great window that mightblow mine out there. Well not exactly.
I don't think you haven't blowing theout the worder, all right.
So we have Michael K. Williams. He was known as Omar on the
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Wire, Chalky on Boardwalk Empire.He started a bunch of things, but
Omar and the Wire is probably hismain claim to fame. But originally he
was a dancer and he was inmultiple videos. Amongst other songs, he
was in Crystal Waters one hundred percentPure Love. Wow. But I think
the most mainstream iconic one that Icould think of off hand. You ready
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for this? Yes, it's theKing of New York, not Biggie,
but the movie star from King ofNew York, Christopher Walking. What wait
wait, what did Christopher Walking appearing? Oh my gosh. She started out
in music videos. Well, he'sstarted out in dance and obviously his acting
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career took off. He was inProphecy, King of New York, he
was in The Deer Hunter. Hewas in A View to a Kill with
Roger Moore and Grace Jones. Isa James Bond movie, true romance,
pulp fiction everywhere. So the man'sa megastar, and in case anybody does
not remember who he is, justlook him up on YouTube, because his
cadence is what makes him famous.Yes it is. There was one point
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that every comedian was trying to imitatehim. Look up fat Boy Slim weapon
of choice. The video starts withhim just sitting there kind of listening to
the music, and as the videogoes, he goes into full dance in
the suit and tie. Oh wow, but that was his roots. Nobody
knew it because everybody knew him foracting. And while we're at it,
Wolverine, well, everybody's favorite Wolverine. Hugh Jackman also does Broadway singing and
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dancing because that's in his repertoire too. A lot of these actors have some
dancing or musical bass. Yeah,if they were classically trained in school,
they had to be able to act, sing, and dance in order to
get through school. All those weretreated as one discipline. You know,
performing on stage required you do allthree. So I hadn't really thought about
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that with once they blow up inHollywood, but that makes a lot of
sense, right. So there area lot of very famous video vixens I
don't know how they're gonna feel aboutyou. Pieces these skills high sak Skills,
Megan coming to you Live from Baltimore, maland Noah Man DBA. We
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definitely have full effect Black Shakra andI About the job Liberated Scarfaces November the
first song band can shout out theMystique Trade Blast, Micapedia, Dave armatch
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Your Turn, Then to hip HopHit and gems one, back to the
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featured presentation, Angelo Winbush and nowour feature presentation. Renee and Angela come
out with the song Your Smile.It becomes number one on the R and
B charts. Oh and they havea song you Don't Have to Cry.
I'm sorry I forgot about that one. Another big feature for them. But
apparently around that time they start havingsome conflicts and they split and goes separate
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ways. It was a little bitof who gets the credit, where the
money goes, stuff like that.But what was interesting was I think that
most people just assumed Angelo was thesinger, Renee was the writer. Played
a little bit bigger part in itthan just that. So she decided to
go solo, and when she wentsolo, she said, I'm doing it
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all myself. So in nineteen eightyseven, she releases the album Sharp,
her first solo joint. Now,before I get into that album, I
just want to go ahead in timea little bit. Okay, do you
remember Stephanie Mills. Yes, Ido remember Stephanie Mills. Angela wrote two
songs for Stephanie Mills. Is thatbecame really big hits. One is a
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faster paced song, Something in theWay You Make Me Feel. I remember
that one. Something in the WayYou Make Me Feel. That was the
jump back in the day. Yeah, to this day, it's still one
of my favorites. Oh No,I've been up and I've been down until
you helped me put my feet onsolid ground. I've been rich and I've
been poor than you show me.There's so much more than the rat race
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and the fast pace could ever offerme. When I look back, Baby,
You've always been there for me.The way it sounded and some of
the things that said just really stuckwith me. You bring up a great
point because the usually fast paced songslike that don't necessarily have to have that
deep of lyrical content, right,But that song does yep, and the
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other song is as a ballad Ilearned to Respect the Power of Love and
who wrote it? Angela winbush Anjela. See that's I'm beginning to wonder if
there's a pattern there, right,Yeah, so definitely Emils comes out with
I learned to Respect the power oflove, and honestly, man, this
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song is can make me a littlebit emotional. Yeah. I tie a
lot of this back to my father, and my father, you know,
he's gone, but he taught methese songs. These songs, I think
this one came around in my lifetime, but you know, he taught me
about the old songs and the valueof listening to lyrics and loving lyrics.
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So, you know, we focuson hip hop here, but my foundation
and that is actually classic R andB, the songs that are structured and
written beautifully. This song in particularis one of those songs that's just amazingly
written. The way this is written, it's not just the word choice.
The progression through the song is alsoamazing. You can't hear this and not
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feel something like she starts to solve. I was a victim of my foolish
thinking carelessly. I've risked my lovein my life. There's no self pity.
I admit I obliged, overpowered bylove. I pretended to be blind.
Faith has survived all the doubts I'vesummoned. My heart has stood all
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the failures and laws helpless, Icannot further be driven. I've learned to
respect the power of love. Canyou Well, I guess you can't,
because it did for us. Butturning on the radio and hearing someone go
through that level of self reflection andopened the song up with that much going
back to what we said earlier,that much vulnerability. Yeah, you know,
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it's interesting because Ajola Winbush also sangthis, and it was actually originally
sung by Alton McLane and Destiny innineteen seventy eight, So Angela had actually
written a song in college. It'sinteresting listening to the three versions of it.
The nineteen seventy eight version and anAngelo's version are kind of similar.
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There to me sung more powerfully,glower and more more forcefully. Yeah,
while Stephanie Mille's approach was on thehigher end, it seems like a more
fragile. She sounds more vulnerable,but then she's tying back into how the
love has made her stronger, andI think that's what makes this song so
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special. I think so it feelslike she really means every word of it,
Like even if Angela was singing it, it would feel like that stefanitely
singing it. It feels like that. I feel like there's something special to
this song, and these two songsin particular. Right to your point,
that's that's what makes the song sospecial, is that obviously it's Stephanie Milo's
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talent in singing it, but it'salso how the song is written, and
how the structured and everything that Angelaput into it, and then Stephanie's rendition
of it combined is what makes itfrom being great to upper echelon, one
of those songs you can never forget. I was always afraid of being the
one left heard running away from theone thing for which I've always yearned.
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I'm not ashamed to tell you manynights I've tossed and turned that I've learned
to respect the power of love.The whole song is saying, it's pouring
a lot of herself into it theway it was being sung, and is
pouring a lot of her undula intoit. The way these words are written,
it sounds so authentic and so sincere. Hello everybody, this is the
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I mentioned she did things with theEisley Brothers. Yes, so she helped
produce Smooth Sailing, the album bythe Eisley Brothers, and she also helped
produce I guess it is considered Eisley'sEisley Brothers album. It was. It
was a weird moment in time therebecause I think the Eislee Brothers decided to
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split up and do separate things.There's a song called Caravan of Love and
that is Eisley Jasper Eisley. ButI don't think Ron Eisley was directly involved
in that. Meanwhile, he madean album that I thought was Ron Eisley
album, but apparently as Eisley Brothersalbum. It's called Spend a Night.
That title track that is baby makingmusic. I believe some of our listeners
may have been born off that songexactly. And who wrote it on Jela
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Winbushazing. So Ron Eisley becomes hermanager and later on he becomes her husband.
All right back to her first soloalbum nineteen eighty seven. The album's
name is Sharp and the single isAngela within My This is written masterfully regardless
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of the genre. It takes whatwe would call an extended metaphor, but
does it so perfectly that it's arguablewhether it's a metaphor. Yes. So
when we talk about hip hop songs, that's one of the things that I
always key on with some like astay on topic and in effect they're talking
about one thing and another thing atthe same time, right, And that's
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done here so flawlessly. It tacklesthree things at once. And if you're
just reading the lyrics or if you'rehearing an acapella when it doesn't have what
couches it firmly into the R andB genre. It could be argued that
this is either a gospel song,it could be argue that this is a
song celebrating recovery mental health, andit can be argued this is a song
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that is a love song. Thisis an exercise in good writing, like
just masterful writing. Period an openup it states and piece of mind creamshine
smiled at me when the world wasfinely. To show what I mean by
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the number of things this is aboutsimultaneously, the verse one says, I
found a certain par paradise within mylife with you. Heaven opened up its
gates and peace of mind came shiningthrough. You smiled at me when the
world was unkind. I was finallyable to unwind. I found an angel.
Looking at the first verse, it'seither I met the love of my
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life and everything's wonderful because I've discoveredyou, or it's literally an angel has
revealed itself to me and I feellike I'm going into paradise because of this
exposure. Or I was in avery dark and unkind place and you came
along, and now I realized thatthere is light that I could come out
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of. And then it progresses fromthere because we're saying that this light opened
my eyes. And then you gointo second verse and it says the sunken
robin set with no regrets, Ican bugget all about blue that can take
direction night and my mind. Aclever point left me when I'm torn down,
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you brought me out o the lostbound bounder. She just has a
power to her that is clearly comingthrough her voice, the range she has,
and and how she builds the songjust with her voice. She does
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a lot of the low things inthe beginning and keeps it really powerful,
showing giving it the drive there,and then at points she just goes up
and it almost feels like her voiceis going to Heaven to paradise right to
me because of the lyrics and becauseof her singing voice, her range.
I believe they said five octaves.I believe that's the this how far they
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set her rangers, which puts herin rare air. Mariah Carry Whitney Houston,
A couple of people I can thinkof her right. It's not freaquent
or common to be able to dothat. And she could hold a note
for a while and she would showit off too, and she would show
it off. And that's one ofthe things that I loved about the structure
of this song is that she almostshe surprised you when she did it,
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So that's what made it seem likeit was just ascending beyond your what you
expect the regular limits to be right, This isn't how the warm up,
isn't how people usually warm up ona song. She does the vocalizing in
the beginning, just the ooze andthe humming and everything is what people do
at an end of the song tobe the climax, to try to show
something off, and she's like,let me clear my throat and just from
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there, it's just amazing, don'tyou know. And the thing is,
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think about it. She can singlike that, she can write like this.
Yeah, she produces and arranges music. A total package. She's a
total package. She's a complete threat. Yep. The fact that people do
not know Angelo Winbush, Yeah,is a shame. It is a crime
against humanity, indeed. But atthe same time, it was an error
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where everything was largely male dominated asfar as directing careers, and that's why
people would assume, like you said, Renee was the songwriter and Angela was
just a vocalist. So having aproducer who was a woman that was doing
all of this, the production,the writing, and could sing it.
Angela can write the song for you, produce it, help you sing it
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right, and still come back andsing it better than you. And that
I think has a lot to dowith how she got slept on. Is
where do you put her? Howdo you compare every now? Then you'll
see that happen in music. You'llsee it happen with movies, TV shows.
There's a time you'll see something comesout that in the category it lives
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in, it is so thoroughly correctand right that it can sort of transcend
the category. But because of that, it's harder to market it because everybody
wants something that's like this, butthis it's like this, but it's like
but it's this thing that wasn't her. She was I do all of it,
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and I do it all well.Yeah. And another thing that made
her interesting was when I saw acouple of quotes from her when she was
making her second solo album. Shewas like, I achieved everything I wanted
to in the first album. NowI'm trying to push myself further. Right,
And when you're that far ahead ofthe game. Yeah, and you
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push yourself further sometimes you just pushyourself out of touch, almost right out
of touch with the game. Andthat's even to go back to other times
we've we've talked about that sentiment,that's Chino, what's l Absolutely he exploded
onto the mainstream and then just transcendedit. And I think to some degree,
um when we talk about Lauren Hilland Audrey three thousand, yep,
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Yeah, and that's that's literally whatit is. Just to tie up with
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her, she ends up being diagnosedwith ovarian cancer stage three. She beats
it. Amen, Funny you sayhe then because she is now an ordained
minister. Wow, this woman isincredible. She's done all of that.
She's done all of it. Whata multi faceted, multi talented genius of
a woman. And I hope thismakes a lot of people go and check
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out Angela wind Bush and see hercatalog and give her her flowers while she's
walking around here to smell them.Absolutely, And you can follow her Instagram.
She's actually active on there. Herhandle is the Angela wind Bush Perfect.
And if you follow Angela and youstart checking out and stuff, and
you really like it, drop hera comment and tell her hip hop hitting
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Appreciate you us alias Gonna or LessKaren. There's the Colombia. Did I
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steal your thunder there? Because Iknow you want to talk about octaves,
so no, no, no,no, that's perfect. I've forgotten about
the octaves. So I had goneback to the video and I was being
blown away all over again, likewow, man, this song is so
Yeah, Yeah, it's your favoritemc no what all Man, Just want
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going on out here? Man,tune in to some good to hip hop.
The underground is alive and well intwenty twenty two, and you're listening
to hip hop hitting gyms, peaceshit' your icy getting too high? But
have you missed the night dreams andyour nice sleep? Welcome to the hip
Hop Hitting Gems podcast, where wecelebrate the classics that time has for guy.
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Hip Hop Hitting Gems is all aboutcelebrating the music that has shaped multiple
generations. This by weekend podcast,hosted by the Mojo King and Willie Freeley,
will focus on the undervalued and underappreciatedaspects of the yard. We will
revisit each track discuss its strengths,history and impacts on the culture, whether
it's a sense of nostalgia or achance to learn something new. There will
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always be a celebrating come hearty words. I don't see how you start any
Valentine's Day special according to Hip Hopwithout talking about LLLS I Need Love.
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But Willie, you actually remember asong that was on par with it out
around the same time. Let meread you a piece of don't you know?
This is heavy D and the boys. You see, before I wasn't
ready for the things you wanted.I couldn't give you what you deserve.
But now the tables are turned fromme, sweetheart. You see, I'm
making records now, you know,you know, getting paid and all that.
So now I think I think it'stime to tell you that I love
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you, because I do, don'tyou know? And then like the singer
comes in and they're like, ooh, don't you know, don't you know?
You know whatever? But like it'sactually legit an open letter back to
his girl. I Need Love cameout in July, don't you know?
Came out in October same year?Oh wow, Yeah. LLL is the
poet for rappers. All right,I'm gonna write a song about a girl,
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and it's gonna be the most tenderthing you ever heard in your life.
You know, and I feel likethat was his I'm gonna write the
love song of love songs, andno one will be able to touch this.
And these were like the two smashlove songs like these are like,
oh my gosh, look at whathip hop has done. The word I
was trying to find for these whenI thought about to prepare for the podcast
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is vulnerability. The thing that separatesit's an R and B song with a
rapper on it from it's a rappersong about a girl to it's a rapper
song about his girl to what makesit an actual love song is that vulnerability.
Every rap album from the Golden Agehad some form of a love song
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on it. You're Right, You'reright to be your Man came with Blue
Magic, Yeah, which was probablyfor him a major career achievement to do
a song with Blue Magic. Yes, I assume Hamburg feel the same thing
about the Shy Lights. These arelegendary groups there before our time. Actually,
yeah, you know, our parentswere telling us about them. So
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if we're talking to a younger generation, they might have no clue who they
are, but you might want togo back and listen to them and check
out Blue Magic. I guess theirbiggest hits were Sideshow and Three Ring Circus
and the Shy Lights. Actually theirbiggest song was Old Girl, and I'll
admit I loved all of me Kaneand Barry White together. That was on
Paste of Chocolate. And those arethe types of songs I appreciate when it's
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more than just baby, I loveyou. Here's a rose, you know.
I like when the songs that's somethingto say. You mentioned how Golden
age hip hop would have one songat least that were along those lines of
love. A lot of them werestorytelling. Yep, I remember Renee by
the Lust Boys. Oh yeah,there's a couple of Ripean rocket mornes.
I can think of Mahogany and what'son your mind? Now, I know
what's song in your mind? Whatsong was that sampling? I'm curious,
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Yeah, I'm curious. That's right. And yet, like you have this
story and you can see all ofit. He gives you what things look
like, who's around the sounds he'shearing. And when you talk about a
little bit of vulnerability, he's openingwith a story about a girl that dissed
him on the subway. Fewers downthe line after it Met the Man and
Mary J. Blige. All INeed This really is a true love song,
right, and that's not something that'scommon in the girl's song quote unquote
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on an album that, of courseis from the classic Marvin Gaye and Tammy
Terrell. You're all I need toget by Met the Man is an underrated
writer. Oh, absolutely absolutely nothingto make a man feel better than the
woman queen with a crown, that'dbe down for whatever. There's a few
things that's forever, my lady.Late. We can make war, make
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babies. Back when I was nothing, you made a brother feel like he
was something. That's why I'm withyou to this debut No Front. And
even when the skies were gray,you would rub me my back and say,
baby, it'll be okay, likehis whole thing is. I was
down and out and you were withme. So I'm gonna put into work
and get somewhere so that I canmake things good for us and that you
usually just don't get that anymore.And methods pen has always been crazy.
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Later in Time is a bliss andNeo make me better. Yeah, just
the title tells me that there's somethingthat's going to be there, right And
That's the thing. Fabless stayed withthe title. You know, he had
his little swagger in it, butevery point of the song was no matter
what I am, when I'm withyou, I'm even better. Yeah.
See, he's actually saying that heneeds her to be better. I'm already
bossing, I'm already fly. Butif I'm a star, then she is
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the sky. Wow. There's onemore song that I want to talk about.
Yeah, it's funny because the song, I would not say it very
vulnerable, except when you put itin perspective of who did it, and
that is pretty thug by Prodigy.Well that's a lot harder than I was
expecting. Well, the song iscrazy, and the video's even crazier.
They're shitting outs and stuff. Oneof the more controversial lines was that he
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said, I'm paraphrasing because I neverremember quote you said. In the next
life, you'll be the dude andI'll be to be. Wow. And
then a hook is throwing back toApache with gangs to be to start with
yea ganks the bookhead. It kindof gives me the feeling that his intent
was to show I got out ofprison and I'm still hard. Well,
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I think He was completely trying todo a love song, but he wanted
to do it the Bob deepway.It was interesting take for Prodigy. It
was a gamble. Yeah, hewas really experimenting at this time because remember
he did the other song Ryan withNo Reason, and he didn't rhyme in
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you by the Mighty nineteen Media Group. All right, Willie, we're throwing
this slight curveball here because this isthe Valentine's Day special, and we talked
about some classic hip hop love songs. Yes, but we also talked about
some classic soul music to help makesome of these songs come true. Since
we talk about hitting gems and it'sthe Valentine's Day special, I want to
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talk about one of my favorite Rand B singers. Who's that Well,
this woman has sold over ten millioncoup She has produced, written, and
arranged for some of the biggest namesever in R and B, and I
think she's still hitting gem amongst thesenames. Amongst these names, she worked
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with Stevie Wonder. How do youhave more names after that? Well,
yes, that that might be acynical name. Yeah, that's huge,
but go ahead, I'm sorry.She's worked with the Eisley Brothers. Oh
quite intimately, my head get toadd a little bit, all right.
She's worked with Stephanie Mils, SheenieEaston. She's worked with Janet Jackson.
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Oh, that's awesome. And ifyou want a couple of hip hop names,
she's worked with Curtis Blow Wow allthe Way to Little Kim good Night.
She's sampled for Foxy Brown's probably herbiggest hit. And still when I
say her name, most people willhave no idea who she is. You're
ready, Yeah, that's hard tobelieve. Angela win Bush, You're right.
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If you list all those people,that's not who I thought you would
go with. That is not someonei'd go, oh, yeah, you
mean Angela. No, not atall, Man, I didn't know she
did all of that. Yep.So we're gonna go through a little bit
of her stuff. Highlight two songsreally, you know, we like the
Highlight one, but there's just twowho really did talk about Yeah, So
Angelo Winbush and I have to keepmaking sure I say it right. I'm
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skipping ahead a little bit, butI will tell you this. The first
time I heard her name said outloud, Royan Eisley was saying it,
and I assume he was just puttingit a little bit extra on because he's
Ryan Eisley, right, So hewas like Angela, yeah, and I'm
like, her name is Angela?Was? And then I was like,
no, wait, her name reallyis Angela. And it's fitting that she
has a unique name. All right. So Angelo Winbush was born in Saint
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Louis, Missouri. She grew upin the choir. I can't tell you
how many of the singers that welove were from church and church. Yeah.
Absolutely, that's the proving ground foralmost all of Motown and Stacks and
all of that, and all theway up to like the Alicia Keys era,
because that meant once a week youhad to perform, and you were
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expected to sing well and sing passionatelyabout something that you believed in, but
also sing in a way that isgoing to actually foster a response from an
audience that's right there to give youweekly feedback on how well you did.
By the time you go into showbusiness. Sometimes that's easier than saying in
the church, I believe it.As a child, she also learned to
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play piano. She ended up goingto Howard University in Washington to study architecture.
Architecture architecture. Wow. Yeah,she was not playing while in knowledge.
She was in a trio winning talentshows all over the place, and
she sent a solo demo out andsomehow it got to the hands of Stevie
Wonder. He liked her and addedher to Wonder Love, which was his
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backup group. Yeah. There,she got to sit in on sessions of
how Stevie was putting stuff together.That's quite a way to learn in case
we're talking to a younger generation.And actually, because Stevie Wonder predates us,
little stuffs. Stevie Wonder and I'mnot exaggerating. Here was the Prince
or the Michael Jackson of his time. Absolutely just a prodigy. From there.
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Another member of One to Love introducedher to Renee More and they formed
Renee and Angela. They could signlike Capitol Records, and they dropped three
albums on Capitol Limited success. Yowas the kid Desmond Pow, host of
Hip to the Games where the brillianceof basketball and hip hop's past and present
is genuinely appreciated, and you're listeningto hip hop hidden gems, and we
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are a part of the nineteen mediagroup family. One of their songs was
a song called My First Love,which is a beautiful ballad. It was
remade by Avant and Keke Wyatt andbecame a hit again. They redid that
particular song. Yeah, they justremade it, all right. But it's
funny to me because I remember thatsong in thinking that that's an amazing song,
not connecting it back to Angela Winbush, right, which is a repeated
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theme throughout her career. So that'show she gets to be a hidden gym
because most of the stuff you mentionedin the intro is not well known by
people. Right after that, theyleft Capital and they signed with Mercury and
then they dropped the album A Streetcalled Desire. That album really started their
takeoff. I think you'll remember hera song I'll be good it was,
yeah, which was what I wasmentioning foxing with jay Z. Right,
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they have a song. It's thereal thing. Now. I don't think
many people will remember that one.But what I really like about it is
the video because there is an actorin the video that everybody will know and
now I think he started out asa video vixen, and that is Don
Cheatle, Don Cheetle, Don Cheatle. When our great African American actors that
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wild, so it made sense whenDon cheatles with Kendrick Lamar years later,
right, Yeah, and that wasa great video too. That was it
was. It was exceptional, butside not for a second. That's not
necessarily unprecedented. So I don't knowif you could think of any but I
know I got too offhand. Iknow Quame had his cousin dancing in his
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videos back in the day, andnow his cousin goes by the name Vin
Diesel. That's amazing. I didn'tknow that that is Kuama's cousin. That's
the only one I know about it, So tell me the ones. You
know that's a great window that mightblow mine out there. Well not exactly.
I don't think you haven't blowing theout the worder, all right.
So we have Michael K. Williams. He was known as Omar on the
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Wire, Chalky on Boardwalk Empire.He started a bunch of things, but
Omar and the Wire is probably hismain claim to fame. But originally he
was a dancer and he was inmultiple videos. Amongst other songs, he
was in Crystal Waters one hundred percentPure Love. Wow. But I think
the most mainstream iconic one that Icould think of off hand. You ready
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for this? Yes, it's theKing of New York, not Biggie,
but the movie star from King ofNew York, Christopher Walking. What wait
wait, what did Christopher Walking appearing? Oh my gosh. She started out
in music videos. Well, he'sstarted out in dance and obviously his acting
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career took off. He was inProphecy, King of New York, he
was in The Deer Hunter. Hewas in A View to a Kill with
Roger Moore and Grace Jones. Isa James Bond movie, true romance,
pulp fiction everywhere. So the man'sa megastar, and in case anybody does
not remember who he is, justlook him up on YouTube, because his
cadence is what makes him famous.Yes it is. There was one point
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that every comedian was trying to imitatehim. Look up fat Boy Slim weapon
of choice. The video starts withhim just sitting there kind of listening to
the music, and as the videogoes, he goes into full dance in
the suit and tie. Oh wow, but that was his roots. Nobody
knew it because everybody knew him foracting. And while we're at it,
Wolverine, well, everybody's favorite Wolverine. Hugh Jackman also does Broadway singing and
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dancing because that's in his repertoire too. A lot of these actors have some
dancing or musical bass. Yeah,if they were classically trained in school,
they had to be able to act, sing, and dance in order to
get through school. All those weretreated as one discipline. You know,
performing on stage required you do allthree. So I hadn't really thought about
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that with once they blow up inHollywood, but that makes a lot of
sense, right. So there area lot of very famous video vixens I
don't know how they're gonna feel aboutyou. Pieces these skills high sak Skills,
Megan coming to you Live from Baltimore, maland Noah Man DBA. We
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definitely have full effect Black Shakra andI About the job Liberated Scarfaces November the
first song band can shout out theMystique Trade Blast, Micapedia, Dave armatch
A, Dope, Soul, GayChilly Man the whole Time Team Na Man
Your Turn, Then to hip HopHit and gems one, back to the
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featured presentation, Angelo Winbush and nowour feature presentation. Renee and Angela come
out with the song Your Smile.It becomes number one on the R and
B charts. Oh and they havea song you Don't Have to Cry.
I'm sorry I forgot about that one. Another big feature for them. But
apparently around that time they start havingsome conflicts and they split and goes separate
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ways. It was a little bitof who gets the credit, where the
money goes, stuff like that.But what was interesting was I think that
most people just assumed Angelo was thesinger, Renee was the writer. Played
a little bit bigger part in itthan just that. So she decided to
go solo, and when she wentsolo, she said, I'm doing it
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all myself. So in nineteen eightyseven, she releases the album Sharp,
her first solo joint. Now,before I get into that album, I
just want to go ahead in timea little bit. Okay, do you
remember Stephanie Mills. Yes, Ido remember Stephanie Mills. Angela wrote two
songs for Stephanie Mills. Is thatbecame really big hits. One is a
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faster paced song, Something in theWay You Make Me Feel. I remember
that one. Something in the WayYou Make Me Feel. That was the
jump back in the day. Yeah, to this day, it's still one
of my favorites. Oh No,I've been up and I've been down until
you helped me put my feet onsolid ground. I've been rich and I've
been poor than you show me.There's so much more than the rat race
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and the fast pace could ever offerme. When I look back, Baby,
You've always been there for me.The way it sounded and some of
the things that said just really stuckwith me. You bring up a great
point because the usually fast paced songslike that don't necessarily have to have that
deep of lyrical content, right,But that song does yep, and the
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other song is as a ballad Ilearned to Respect the Power of Love and
who wrote it? Angela winbush Anjela. See that's I'm beginning to wonder if
there's a pattern there, right,Yeah, so definitely Emils comes out with
I learned to Respect the power oflove, and honestly, man, this
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song is can make me a littlebit emotional. Yeah. I tie a
lot of this back to my father, and my father, you know,
he's gone, but he taught methese songs. These songs, I think
this one came around in my lifetime, but you know, he taught me
about the old songs and the valueof listening to lyrics and loving lyrics.
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So, you know, we focuson hip hop here, but my foundation
and that is actually classic R andB, the songs that are structured and
written beautifully. This song in particularis one of those songs that's just amazingly
written. The way this is written, it's not just the word choice.
The progression through the song is alsoamazing. You can't hear this and not
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feel something like she starts to solve. I was a victim of my foolish
thinking carelessly. I've risked my lovein my life. There's no self pity.
I admit I obliged, overpowered bylove. I pretended to be blind.
Faith has survived all the doubts I'vesummoned. My heart has stood all
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the failures and laws helpless, Icannot further be driven. I've learned to
respect the power of love. Canyou Well, I guess you can't,
because it did for us. Butturning on the radio and hearing someone go
through that level of self reflection andopened the song up with that much going
back to what we said earlier,that much vulnerability. Yeah, you know,
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it's interesting because Ajola Winbush also sangthis, and it was actually originally
sung by Alton McLane and Destiny innineteen seventy eight, So Angela had actually
written a song in college. It'sinteresting listening to the three versions of it.
The nineteen seventy eight version and anAngelo's version are kind of similar.
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There to me sung more powerfully,glower and more more forcefully. Yeah,
while Stephanie Mille's approach was on thehigher end, it seems like a more
fragile. She sounds more vulnerable,but then she's tying back into how the
love has made her stronger, andI think that's what makes this song so
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special. I think so it feelslike she really means every word of it,
Like even if Angela was singing it, it would feel like that stefanitely
singing it. It feels like that. I feel like there's something special to
this song, and these two songsin particular. Right to your point,
that's that's what makes the song sospecial, is that obviously it's Stephanie Milo's
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talent in singing it, but it'salso how the song is written, and
how the structured and everything that Angelaput into it, and then Stephanie's rendition
of it combined is what makes itfrom being great to upper echelon, one
of those songs you can never forget. I was always afraid of being the
one left heard running away from theone thing for which I've always yearned.
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I'm not ashamed to tell you manynights I've tossed and turned that I've learned
to respect the power of love.The whole song is saying, it's pouring
a lot of herself into it theway it was being sung, and is
pouring a lot of her undula intoit. The way these words are written,
it sounds so authentic and so sincere. Hello everybody, this is the
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I mentioned she did things with theEisley Brothers. Yes, so she helped
produce Smooth Sailing, the album bythe Eisley Brothers, and she also helped
produce I guess it is considered Eisley'sEisley Brothers album. It was. It
was a weird moment in time therebecause I think the Eislee Brothers decided to
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split up and do separate things.There's a song called Caravan of Love and
that is Eisley Jasper Eisley. ButI don't think Ron Eisley was directly involved
in that. Meanwhile, he madean album that I thought was Ron Eisley
album, but apparently as Eisley Brothersalbum. It's called Spend a Night.
That title track that is baby makingmusic. I believe some of our listeners
may have been born off that songexactly. And who wrote it on Jela
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Winbushazing. So Ron Eisley becomes hermanager and later on he becomes her husband.
All right back to her first soloalbum nineteen eighty seven. The album's
name is Sharp and the single isAngela within My This is written masterfully regardless
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of the genre. It takes whatwe would call an extended metaphor, but
does it so perfectly that it's arguablewhether it's a metaphor. Yes. So
when we talk about hip hop songs, that's one of the things that I
always key on with some like astay on topic and in effect they're talking
about one thing and another thing atthe same time, right, And that's
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done here so flawlessly. It tacklesthree things at once. And if you're
just reading the lyrics or if you'rehearing an acapella when it doesn't have what
couches it firmly into the R andB genre. It could be argued that
this is either a gospel song,it could be argue that this is a
song celebrating recovery mental health, andit can be argued this is a song
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that is a love song. Thisis an exercise in good writing, like
just masterful writing. Period an openup it states and piece of mind creamshine
smiled at me when the world wasfinely. To show what I mean by
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the number of things this is aboutsimultaneously, the verse one says, I
found a certain par paradise within mylife with you. Heaven opened up its
gates and peace of mind came shiningthrough. You smiled at me when the
world was unkind. I was finallyable to unwind. I found an angel.
Looking at the first verse, it'seither I met the love of my
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life and everything's wonderful because I've discoveredyou, or it's literally an angel has
revealed itself to me and I feellike I'm going into paradise because of this
exposure. Or I was in avery dark and unkind place and you came
along, and now I realized thatthere is light that I could come out
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of. And then it progresses fromthere because we're saying that this light opened
my eyes. And then you gointo second verse and it says the sunken
robin set with no regrets, Ican bugget all about blue that can take
direction night and my mind. Aclever point left me when I'm torn down,
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you brought me out o the lostbound bounder. She just has a
power to her that is clearly comingthrough her voice, the range she has,
and and how she builds the songjust with her voice. She does
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a lot of the low things inthe beginning and keeps it really powerful,
showing giving it the drive there,and then at points she just goes up
and it almost feels like her voiceis going to Heaven to paradise right to
me because of the lyrics and becauseof her singing voice, her range.
I believe they said five octaves.I believe that's the this how far they
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set her rangers, which puts herin rare air. Mariah Carry Whitney Houston,
A couple of people I can thinkof her right. It's not freaquent
or common to be able to dothat. And she could hold a note
for a while and she would showit off too, and she would show
it off. And that's one ofthe things that I loved about the structure
of this song is that she almostshe surprised you when she did it,
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So that's what made it seem likeit was just ascending beyond your what you
expect the regular limits to be right, This isn't how the warm up,
isn't how people usually warm up ona song. She does the vocalizing in
the beginning, just the ooze andthe humming and everything is what people do
at an end of the song tobe the climax, to try to show
something off, and she's like,let me clear my throat and just from
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there, it's just amazing, don'tyou know. And the thing is,
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think about it. She can singlike that, she can write like this.
Yeah, she produces and arranges music. A total package. She's a
total package. She's a complete threat. Yep. The fact that people do
not know Angelo Winbush, Yeah,is a shame. It is a crime
against humanity, indeed. But atthe same time, it was an error
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where everything was largely male dominated asfar as directing careers, and that's why
people would assume, like you said, Renee was the songwriter and Angela was
just a vocalist. So having aproducer who was a woman that was doing
all of this, the production,the writing, and could sing it.
Angela can write the song for you, produce it, help you sing it
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right, and still come back andsing it better than you. And that
I think has a lot to dowith how she got slept on. Is
where do you put her? Howdo you compare every now? Then you'll
see that happen in music. You'llsee it happen with movies, TV shows.
There's a time you'll see something comesout that in the category it lives
(29:37):
in, it is so thoroughly correctand right that it can sort of transcend
the category. But because of that, it's harder to market it because everybody
wants something that's like this, butthis it's like this, but it's like
but it's this thing that wasn't her. She was I do all of it,
(29:57):
and I do it all well.Yeah. And another thing that made
her interesting was when I saw acouple of quotes from her when she was
making her second solo album. Shewas like, I achieved everything I wanted
to in the first album. NowI'm trying to push myself further. Right,
And when you're that far ahead ofthe game. Yeah, and you
(30:18):
push yourself further sometimes you just pushyourself out of touch, almost right out
of touch with the game. Andthat's even to go back to other times
we've we've talked about that sentiment,that's Chino, what's l Absolutely he exploded
onto the mainstream and then just transcendedit. And I think to some degree,
um when we talk about Lauren Hilland Audrey three thousand, yep,
(30:42):
Yeah, and that's that's literally whatit is. Just to tie up with
(31:03):
her, she ends up being diagnosedwith ovarian cancer stage three. She beats
it. Amen, Funny you sayhe then because she is now an ordained
minister. Wow, this woman isincredible. She's done all of that.
She's done all of it. Whata multi faceted, multi talented genius of
a woman. And I hope thismakes a lot of people go and check
(31:26):
out Angela wind Bush and see hercatalog and give her her flowers while she's
walking around here to smell them.Absolutely, And you can follow her Instagram.
She's actually active on there. Herhandle is the Angela wind Bush Perfect.
And if you follow Angela and youstart checking out and stuff, and
you really like it, drop hera comment and tell her hip hop hitting
(31:48):
Jim said, Hi, tell herwe sent you. This is hip hop
hidden gems perfect. You the man. Thank you, Maxi so much.
Appreciate you us alias Gonna or LessKaren. There's the Colombia. Did I
(32:17):
steal your thunder there? Because Iknow you want to talk about octaves,
so no, no, no,no, that's perfect. I've forgotten about
the octaves. So I had goneback to the video and I was being
blown away all over again, likewow, man, this song is so
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