EP 69 - The History of Alcatraz Island Federal Penitentiary - History for Foos

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:23):
That's a start written by a guy that was locked
up in Alcatraz from nineteen fifty eight to nineteen sixty three.
He smoked the harmonica inside his colon. And and every
time you farted, so yes, you would eat a can

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of beans.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Every time.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
We eat like a can of beans every night with
a cracker and cheese.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
And.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Play it again, Joe hold on, let me open it
into the kind of beads. Yeah, man, he was sent
to the gas chamber. Oh what's up, everybody? History for
fools here as far as a bush esketball pet parlor

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and charge two historians.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Herry want to shout out to San Jose Reading, thanks
for all the love. We were out there once again.
And then Portland also, thanks for all the love. We
love you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Shout out to Portland, Oregon. Man, you know who you are.
You were back, you know you were in a green
room taking a lot of abuse. Oh man, I don't
understand why people want to hang out in the green room.
There's nothing specially about the green room. Are you gonna
see a bunch of guys staring at you and then
breaking down your comedy and making fun of you for
like an hour? Oh my god, what do you want

(03:06):
to tell your jokes? Bro? Bro, we just did an
hour of good jokes. You didn't want to hear one
bad joke? Ten minutes a good joke, another ten minutes
a good joke, fifteen minutes a good joke, a whole
hour of good jokes. Here comes on bullshit with one joke.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
In the back, in the back joke?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
How to me? I tell you all this joke works?
Do you tell how jokes work? They work on STAGEY
don't work through like through fucking Hey man, I want
you to hear out this joke. We don't work in whispers.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Okay, the most hate this joke ever too. And you
looked at him and you go, you gotta get you
gotta let the crowd get to know you before you
start saying stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I know some companies don't get it, like they think
that people like Joe Diaz, people like Luis c k,
people who actually people.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Are like, yeah, what's the name Dave Chappelle?

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Just on Nick too. I think they just started doing comedy,
I thought overnight.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well, because I think people think they don't understand that.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
They got to build an audience, the audience that loves
them and understands them, and they don't just get to
the bad job right away.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
I think people think it's just talking. I think they're like, oh,
I don't need to use an instrument.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I know bro enough about concrete.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
But I think people generally think that all we do
is go I know this because I still show up
to open mics on Tuesdays and Wednesdays at the Improv
and the freak show that comes in there. And I
don't mean like because there's a lot of great comics
and then there's a lot of great people that are
gonna be comics, but there's also a lot of people
who don't know what the fuck to do with their lives,
and they're fucking super weird and different.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Are you off your meds? Maybe you want to do
stand up.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Comedies exactly, bro, And they're up to a part.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Look and sit through a bunch of people who are
delusional like myself, and you also do stand up comedy.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, I mean we thought, also thought, but there are
people that I'm like, I think you don't acknowledge that
you're way out of your depth here. You know, like,
this isn't for you, Like go write poetry or do
one man play, but fucking comedy is not your thing.
That guy, though, My other favorite part of that night
was when when he he goes to he goes and
tells you this long winded, disgusting joke like graphic and

(05:34):
you go, you know, a part I'd cut out of that.
He looks saying, you like you're about to tell him
something profound. He goes, he goes, what he go, all
of it, I'd cut all of it out. In fact,
I wouldn't say any of that.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
You got it.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
And that's when you're like, you gotta get people to
know you before you can go up.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
There bro and do a sonomy joke. In the beginning,
They like, that's not like a you would just you
gotta think about steam like this. Would you start off
with that in a conversation with a.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Stranger exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
You let the guy you know you you, you shake
his hand and then blah blah blah blah, and three
minutes the n after you start left you throw that
in there. But Broy, you gotta get him going, bro.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Well, you know what's funny is that actually people will
do that to you, thinking are they doing to comics
in general that they see But they'll walk up and
say something heinous, thinking we're gonna be like where were we?
What theater was it? Where the theater guy looked at Rodrigo,
He's all, here you go, hey, fat fuck here and
he went to hand him the joint and Rio's like,

(06:41):
what did you call me? He goes, I always like
to fuck with people, bro here and It's like, no,
you can't that guy. You can't start the guy with
like the Asian guy with the blazing guy with the
curly hair that was working with I think.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
It was in.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yes, he's never going back to the bait.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Was like like he's like like how like he thought
we wanted like we didn't like California either at first,
because he was like would you go back if you left?
And I was like I wouldn't leave that guy.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, there's other there's a lot of shittier places in
California to leave to live in before you go to
another state.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Right, You've always said this, and I repeated when people
ask me how come you haven't left California because of
the prices. And I'm like, if it gets that bad,
I'll go to fucking Bakersfield or Oildale, Like, Bro, I'll.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Be like, I'll be like, I'll go I'll go live
in Mono Lake.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Right, I'll be over there like stallone and King of
Tolsa totally yeah, exactly, Bro, I'll live over there, Bro.
And where the where the Sultan.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Sea dog and no events to other reacts, I wear
Sultancy is like the Bay Route of California. I know,
off to people who live out the Sultan Sea. I
know sometimes people think that we're fucking like California's are up. Whatever.
We love our state. I love my state. I'm from here,

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and I think that's the thing is from a different place,
it becomes your home. But for me, I'm never fucking
leaving this place, bro. Like, I think there's two things
in this world that you pay for what you get,
and that's bread and real estate. And you pay a
lot to you pay for none of those things. Well,
I don't pay for bread because you and you pay
on real estate. Yeah, oh yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
California are perfect for you.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, I mean I pay high rent. I pay like
a lot of money to live in a bedroom the
size of this fucking smaller than the size of the studio.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
So understand that that that people hate on California. They don't,
they're too scared. It's like when people hate on California,
they're there. Is that when a person hates on a
whole gang without touching the one individual that really hate. Right,

(09:00):
you don't really hate California. You hate Hollywood? Say I
hate Hollywood? Yeah, you hate you hate Los Angeles? Just
say I hate those angels. I hate those Hollywood good.
The rest of California does too, and we're okay with that.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
We hate Silicon Valley too. We hate Silicon Valley.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
But San Francisco there's very, very expensive. But once you
take away like the four cities, we pretty much have Peoria, Illinois.
You know what.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
And that's the truth. Dude. If you've ever been to
places like reading Ah fucking Sacramento, it looks like the
middle of the country. In Oakland. Actually, both look like Midwestern,
like capital.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
State reading looks like Florida was good as legal weed.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
And nice trees, beautiful trees, but legal.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
In California yet, which makes some reading better than any
city in Florida exactly.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
That's the thing is like I don't get like, I mean,
even Hank Williams junior in the country boy can't survive,
like says northern California. And if you've ever been to
northern California and you go, oh, California is all sunshine
and fucking stars and full of like all these liberal
people go to fucking northern California, go to Arnold, go
to fucking reading, and go to the fucking parts of Sacramento.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
You go there right now.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
No, I'm good, dude, I gotta stay here. I gotta
do the podcast.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Bro Mono Lake, Mono Lakes grossop related to.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
La I'll go there.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Brought price out half of the city. Bro, you don't
want me to go to your city.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Bro, look at that like see that, you go, oh wow,
I'd love to live there, But like it's like the
same as clear Lake, Dude. Clear Lake is a beautiful area,
but the towns around it.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Are like you move to Mono Lake and you you
pee on that lake, you're getting back at everybody in
our lakeause they're gonnadrink that water did the history of water?

Speaker 3 (10:56):
They suck out the Mono Lake. Yeah, La, we do,
we do. I live here now. We take from the
Mono like we also take from the Colorado River. Yes, right, yeah,
yeah dude. But that's the thing is that I'm not
I'm not ever inclined to leave. That guy was like,
how badly do you want to leave California.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I'm like, you will say, oh, you live in California. Bro,
We're like, do we Our status biases three times your
state in population and land.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Do you know what people keep saying is California is failing.
But we just announced the other day that we went
from being the fifth largest acon.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Forth to the fourth.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
How is that a failing state?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I'm sorry because legos that are we took their money.
We're not gonna pay him.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
It's true. That is fucking true. That is actually so
true because of our agriculture and illegals working here, leaving behind,
leaving all that other stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
And people say that I stuff. We were writing California,
somebody was saying. But then didn't tell me. Yeah, man,
it's a lot of it's like a lot of kkks
and reading California. And I was like, majana still legal
in fucking and reading. Yeah, then I'm OKKK with that
because they coming to my show anyways.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Just don't get a duy because you might see And here's.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
A fun fact for all you country people out there,
all you fucking like get to the fun fact. Okay,
California has the most malicious out of any other state
in the country, the most militious anti government militias than
in any other state in the country. So we have
more rednecks than anybody else.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I know, man, resistant militia, industry worshippers. Yeah, Lancaster was
like to be the capital of this area. Really of
dev worshippers really no ship.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah, I mean we have a lot of cults and
I think we kind of cover that a little bit
when we did the Water Wars when we talked about
what's her name because she started evangelism, But evangelism is
kind of like cultism and so there and that's the
thing is I could see Los Angeles. In fact, I
actually would if you told me Los Angeles was the
cult capital of the world. I would believe it because

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it's just weird like that. There's a lot of weird
tribes of people here, like I'm we're seeing anything like it.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
You see that Donald Trump, they're letting a lot of
white backs into America.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yes, well I don't know a lot, but he's letting
What's funny is that.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
What's funny is that for the first time in my life,
you're going to be able to say, I lost my
job to an African American. Fucking African Americans. I've taken our.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Jobs African American.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I didn't know they were getting beat up, bro, because
I always because like, there's a lot of refugees out there.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Are they getting beat up? Is that what's happening?

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Are they getting picked up? My thing is this, they're
getting ready for twenty twenty April. Any white boats, dude.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
They went out and they were like, we need to
find all the white people who want to be refugees.
And in all the world, all of the world, they
could find forty nine white people that wanted to come
to America. Everybody else is sad. Everybody else is like,
we got it good, bro, We're good. That sadly shows
you how bad things are for fucking brown colored people

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in this world.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
No, that's sad, bro. That means that of all the
other places that are only like white people from South
Africa want to come, I mean the other white people
all over the world sad. Now I'm good.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
That's how bad it is here.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
That's that's how bad it is for how good they're
doing it somewhere else. A man, you're in England, you
want to come to in America? Now we're good, mate,
We got free healthcare over here. Though you did them
to go over there and fuck up my teeth?

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Get shot?

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Get shot? You know I never heard a gun?

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, you know. Like that's the thing is like gun
violence in other countries is like astronomically low compared to ours.
We have that we have that significant issue. So welcome
to America, African African people. Uh, enjoy the the guns
and butter and the freedom.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's weird, bro, We're letting the bad people from from
Little Weapon to in America.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
That's fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
That's right. D Two order for the rigs.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
What if we have a free of like what do
we have like a spree of like hostage takeovers of
large buildings.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
There were the bad guys in Litho and fucking or
what is.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
It they do with the weapons? Are they kidnappers?

Speaker 2 (15:58):
No, brother, money laundewers and you cannot even write me
a ticket electrical asylum. There's a little weapon.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Too long time. That's the one with Joe Pesci. No,
it's not.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
It is Joe Pesci was accountant for the South Africa.
Whatever little guests you get.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Right, yeah, whatever you need, guess. But I saw it
in the theaters. I vaguely, vaguely remember it, like, uh
I remember Lethal Weapon one, but.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
There were all all a bad game on South Africa. Yeah,
it was like it was. The movie was. If you
look at you watch the movie again, it's very like
anti South Africa. The movie The Protest is about South Africa,
the South Africa. That And I didn't know this, but
I catch a little kind of little easter egg when
I was watching Lethal Weapon one. There's and apartheid poster

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on the on the on Dinny Glover's refrigerator and Lethal one.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
So there was like political overtones like our political easter
eggs in the movie as well.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Well. The political easter eggs but I just noticed that
they had the end apartheid refrigerator. And then later on
when they're like in their boats and little Weapon one
they're having, uh, they're hanging out on their boats. And
then later on and lead the weapon three. There he
has a bunch of Asian small illegal Asians Chinese inside

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that boat. And then of course apartheid. What's up man Alcatraz.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
A.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Lets talk about Alcatraz out there and they're trying to
bring in a prison in there. But that that thing
lasted about a week. Now it's over.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Oh you're talking about the president trying to bring in
a new prison to Alcatraz.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yes, yeah, we talked about. But let's talk about how
how much it would cost and how much cheaper it
is to keep selling fucker where they're going right.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Now, insanely cheaper. Like even if we were to, like,
let's say, magically have enough money and not cost us
a lot to rebuild on that island, it would still
be too expensive, largely Like even if we were to
build a similar prison on another part of the country

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and make it a super supermax, which is this one's
supposed to be, it would still be insanely cheaper. The
original cost of federal petricty, including the cell house, was
two hundred and fifty thousandates to approximately seven point eight
million today just to build it. That's just to build it. Also,
there's no there's no way you could get plumbing on
that island, so you'd and and there's no It's called

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a rock the rock for a reason because it is
exactly that, it's a rock. So there's no vegetation on there,
and you wouldn't be able to grow mass crops, you
wouldn't be able to get food, so everything would have
to be trucked out to the fucking island, including water.
And that was the problem that they had in the beginning.
And this prison was like our our version of Seccat. Now,

(19:06):
like I almost now after reading about this book or
reading this book that I read and reading all these
things about Alcatraz, that Bouque read that stuff and made
a modern day Alcatraz out of Sica because the exact
way that they bring them in everything.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
But there was a there was another before the but
before the Rock, there was there was another prison bro
that is that they said there were they they were
sending French prisoners too, and it was called Devil's Island
and there's a movie about called Papalon. America just decided
to copy them, like hardcore criminal. Brought out of that prison.

(19:44):
You never came back. You were not sent back to
France ever again.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, that was it.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
You just live in that town Guyana as a prisoner. Bro.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Oh is that what Guyana is? It was a prison before? Yeah,
is it? Guyana were the slaves when when black people
left the United States they went to start another country.
There is that it?

Speaker 2 (20:06):
No, they started another country and Liberia Liberia. Never mind
then wrong with Liberia means freedom?

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Okay. But so Guyana it was a former prison that
is now a country.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, it was called it was a French Guyana French
and they will send French people there and off them
all over. Bro. She's like Australia. Bro. Australia started off
of the prison too, and they were all convicts.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Well so did in America.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Right, America, they didn't stand convicts to America.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
That's where we got like indentured servants. It was like
they would like a lot of those people were like
prisoners from England that were like that. They didn't want
to like keep there, so they'd send them here. I
mean exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
They were like not really like they were not. There
were no criminals like I committed I murder people who
I rob people. They would people who'd like they will
sixty bucks, bro, they're never gonna pay they work it off. Yeah,
but they were just they're just old money. But they
were not put in there as prisoners because they were
captured and in an island full of white people and

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they were gathered up and say we're going to be slaves.
You have people who just didn't pill their debts or
they lost their homes and they gotta sell off something.
So you know what that guy was, you three hundred
okay to America. Let him work off the debt.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I know nothing about Australia being other than that it
used to be a prison. Did they just drop them
off on the island or was there an actual no.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Actual prison, just like Guyana. And when you're in that
prison that was island, after you serve your time, you
just get released and you live, you work in a
there's a home or you're a gatherer.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
And then the village got built because people being released
from the prison were like had nowhere to go. Obviously
they could get around.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Couldn't go back to England, motherfuckers, couldn't go back to
New Zealand, couldn't go anywhere. So Alcatraz was was like
a copy of that where you know, we're gonna we're
gonna put somebody on somebody in Ireland to right right.
But man, so that one of the first people that
put in with Alcopone the linn the Lindbergh, fucking fucking

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the kidnappers, the kidnappers were put in there.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
That.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, there's a movie where Christian Slater where he plays
a lawyer for one of the Limberg guys and he's
locked up in Alcatraz and he goes visit him and
and the guy that's in prison, he's I think it's Kevin.
He's obsessed with the Brooklyn Dodgers about.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Murdering the first This is not about the This is
about a Lindberg like so that is actually a case.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
But that guy says that he was one of the guys.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
That kidnapped the Lindbergh. Yeah, because I just read about
this in the book. In the book right, and the
movie and the in the book, even since the movie
misrepresents the whole thing. But it's a guy that was
charged under the Limberg law. Yeah, because after the Limberg
baby was kidnapped, there was no laws preventing people from
like overt laws preventing people from being in the movie.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
He to make the movie again more Hollywood. He was
a Limberg. Yeah, Okay, one of the guys that was
in the car driving that's it.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Oh you know what, I think they did mention something
of that in the book I perused over there.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
He was very very young, So that guy was really obsessed.
He was I don't know, I don't know much about
the movie, but he was obsessed with the Brooken Dodgers.
And he had no idea that the Dodgers had moved
to l A yet.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
So told Yeah, those guys are completely blocked off.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
So they're blocked off on the world. And and this
guy builds a little model stadium in the prison. There
was another guy, the Birdman of Alcatraz.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Birdman of Alcatraz about him. Okay, let's see here. I
have all my notes because I was on we were
on the run this weekend.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Right here, man, it's a mask of the one of
the escapees of one of the Angling Brothers, which was
another prison escaper in chapel So.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Robert Franklin Stroud born January twenty eighteen ninety and lived
till November twenty first, nineteen sixty three is known as
the Birdman of Alcatraz. And here's the thing, dude, I
don't know anything about these guys. You hear about machine
gun Kelli. The only one we all kind of knew
about was al Capone, right, and this is the Birdman
of Alcatraz. And he didn't do anything insanely crazy to

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get locked up overall, he didn't. He he robbed a bank.
I think he'd like, huh, he murdered, But I mean like,
he didn't murder like al Capone murdered. He didn't like
he fucking killed. Like. I don't even think it was
a couple people. I think it was one person. I
just remember thinking like the was lackluster compared to like

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what al Capone was doing. But the thing was is
that he was crafty and he was super Oh that's right. Yeah,
he was a pimp in Alaska. He robbed a bunch
of banks. But see, that's the thing is like it
was so Alcatraz wasn't necessarily a place where they held
like insane criminals. It's just really held people that escaped
all the time, because back then you could escape from
jails and prisons like it was nothing. So like they

(25:25):
held these guys in here. And Robert Stroud was a
guy that could talk people into anything, I mean anything.
He talked to the plate because he was at another
prison for a while and he at another United States
penitentiary and he talked them into blowing a hole in
the wall of his cell to the next cell so
he could have two cells. And then he built an

(25:45):
office so he could write books about canaries because he
found dead He found a dying canary one time and
he brought it back to life. And then he became
fascinated with canaries and he started doing studies on canaries
and he actually did dude, like he was so smart
that he developed like a tool to shave like meat down,

(26:07):
like you know, to study to a certain degree that
he could look through it in the in the in
the microscope. And he was due had all this equipment
in his in his other cell, all kinds of shit
books written. He was like actually a lot of aviary
medicine and studies have him to thank for the research
that he did there was a lot of misinformation in

(26:29):
his books as well. But that was the thing is,
at some point the new government, like whenever the new
administration would come in, they were like, all these guys
living off the hog and being spoiled, and this was
one of them. And you gotta understand, this guy's been
in there for like years doing all this research, selling
these books. I think he made like three books, and
then one night, in the middle of the night, they're like, hey,
come with us. He gets on the train and gets

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shipped to Alcatraz and he's left again now with nothing.
Maybe a few books that he wrote, but that's it.
And he started doing the thing with birds there as well.
But the problem was is that he was able to
convince anybody into anything, and that's why they moved him there.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
And that's what he's famed what the Alcatraz opened.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Alcatraz opened August eleventh, nineteen thirty four, and went all
the way to nineteen sixty three March twenty first of
nineteen sixty three and was open for twenty nine years
in operation. Before that, it was a it was a
it was a military prison, and before that it was
a base. Shortly for a while before that it was

(27:29):
on it was baron land that belonged to Popiko, who's
the governor of California. We had that. We had talked
about him in other episodes, and so that's kind of
the history.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
When were you there?

Speaker 3 (27:40):
I went there? Fuck, dude, what date was that I
actually did go spend the night on Alcatraz Island. I'm
trying to remember. Well, we were a clip of you
there short Oh shit, yeah, okay, see that's me on
the left right there, and this is a video called
uh Megusta al Potro and Ascarcito and they spent this

(28:03):
is like a music video for Venezuelan MTV, and to
film it, we got to spend the whole night, like
about fifteen to sixteen hours on the on Alcatraz Island.
That lady right there actually Ray pointed out, who did
you say she was?

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Ray? She's a choup with white lady interviewed. She's the
lady who interviewed Trump Penn.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yes, I did not know that until we started watching this,
But yeah, I got to spend the night there, and
you get to walk around, You get to see the
cell that the guys that escaped went through, You get
to see the head that that they still have the
head laying in that cell.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, the guards that were working at Alcatraz, they spent
their wealk. Of course, once their shift was over, they
work eight hour or twelve hour ho day.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
I think they worked een hour shifts and.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Then they will go home or where they sleep there.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
So some of them would go home on the mainland,
but most of them would had homes on the island.
There was a whole residential side of the island that
had like people that worked on the island as chefs
or cooks or maintenance people. And then a lot of
the top guards and some of the regular guards and
the warden lived on the island as well. And there
was like like dude, there was a school, there was

(29:21):
a kindergarten. All the kids had to go to school
on the mainland, but there was a kindergarten on the island.
There was a little store that they could shop at.
There was a laundry unit, a post office on the island,
and playground for kids.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Did there was the when when the prison was open.
There was a constant little shuttle that would actually go
back and forth every day that would bring they want
to bring in new prisoners every week, right hand, every day.
It was too expensive, right.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
They would, Yeah, And in fact the prison was had
a low population at max population no at most is
three seventy.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Spoke. We spoke to an inmate that used to be there.
What's his name, Robert with him in right here we're
here in readings, California. It was one of the last
convicts that was in Alcatraz Prison. So when did you
got released?

Speaker 3 (30:15):
I was released in nineteen sixty three, right before they
killed jfk Oh.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Really, so you think that how many people did hold
when you were there?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
About two forty?

Speaker 2 (30:26):
No chicks either, man, So you think it's a good
idea to open it up. But you go in there
and check it out.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
I turned it into a casino. Get some chicks.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I'll there have some fun. Wow, Robert, good idea, man,
I think that'd be a great red. That'd be an
awesome idea to have a casino there.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Well, that's Larry Bubbles Brown.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
We're talking about that Robert broke. He was he was
in prison and well then he rode Hello. The guy
was a hello with Robert in there for.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
The guy was on tour with us and ready.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Talking about he he featured for you What are you
talking about it? Which I ran into the guy.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
You really they did?

Speaker 3 (31:30):
We were in California. We were we were doing in
California this week, and I'm like, this motherfucker actually went
out and found someone because we were in the green
room with with that guy from Sunset Connect and he
was like, I know someone who was at Alcatraz.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
And that's that's Robert.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
That's fucking murderer. Shout out to Larry Bubbles Brown locked up.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
But did that guy Robert come out of prison the
nineteen fighty three? Who the birdman? The last the last
inmate to come on of Yeah, I'll try was that guy?

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Was that guy right there?

Speaker 2 (32:08):
And then I have a mask too from one of
the people that escape.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Listen. I'm gonna tell you right now, if you're relying
on this podcast for any type of homework, switch the channel. Man.
None of this is reliable information, even the stuff that
I actually looked up.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
The last brother with who.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Frank ce Weatherman was?

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Just the guy was just Poto Man, Pancho Weatherman.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Can we see a picture of Frank see Weatherman again?

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Bro throw the video again. We're here in readings California.
It was one of the last conviction that was in
Alcatraz prison. So when did you got released?

Speaker 3 (32:54):
I was released nineteen sixty three, right before they killed
jfk Oh.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Really he does look like so you think that how
many people did hold when you were there?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
No, tick crowd looks like he does.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
So you think it's a good idea to open it
up if you go and check it out. I did
my research, like you, brom trying to run out of title.
I'm good, good Bro, we're here in Ready's, California. That
was one of the last What did you interview exactly?

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
You didn't even try to You didn't even try to
make anything up or trying to be creative for the podcast,
like I did. Just grab somebody. You just gave up.
I can't find nobody, so I'm not gonna do nothing.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, I found a guy. I gave him the facts
about the other real guy.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
And did you buy lunch? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:55):
For a pop tart.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Oh my god, Bro, that was hilarious. Dude, Holy fu
is that's not okay? Now, that's that's Frank Weatherman right.
Just randomly google Larry Bubbles Brown. He don't even I
don't even gotta Instagram. I swear to god, I seen
Frank Sea Weatherman, Larry Bubbles Brown. I swear to god,

(34:20):
I saw Frank Sea Weatherman on David Letterman in the eighties.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
I'll send you a picture of a picture of the guy.
Would just a video of the guy who just showed
you when he when he first went inside.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Holy cowde, that was a good one, man. It was
a nice hell. That's see. There we go. There's Larry
Bubbs right there.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
That's when he when he came out.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Fresh out the bed. If you guys, do what you want?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
What do you want? What's what's your Instagram?

Speaker 3 (34:49):
If he knew Bubbs?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Dude, dude, what are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (34:53):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (34:54):
What are you talking about? Research?

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Because he's afraid of germs?

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Dude, I hereod I send you a picture of him
when you were locked up.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
But he went in.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
He went in when he was twenty two years old.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
I gotta see this.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
I got a prison prison mugshot.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
When they when they caught him sneaking into a to
a Ladies a variety show. So that's Frank Weatherman when
he first went into to uncatrash And then it's sixty three.

(35:31):
You can hear how much he aged in those twenty years.
And that's him now shows that video again that next
to that face.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Come on, man, the interview was from fifty forty years ago. Bro,
what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (35:49):
I did my I did my research. I did my research.
What are you talking about tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Man?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Same guys? Please anyway, BRO, talk more about Let's go
back to to a subject. Bro. Forget about who's who
or what what?

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Okay, all right, let's stick to the facts. Oh god, dude,
that was thank you for that. Today.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
This there's actually there's actually a Latino guy that worked
with your with somebody that we know your dad that
was locked up in Alcatraz. Was there. He shorted the picture.
Oh one of the one of the guys that we
met last night that we met from Sunset Connection, which

(36:34):
is Ali. He showed us a picture of a real,
real old Cholo and that solo was locked up in
Thank Quentin and he came out in sixty three and
after that he was trying forer the full sum and
then sank Quentin.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, yeah, he did say that. He didn't say that. Oh,
he's an interesting guy outside of his company.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
What else you know about Alcatraz.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Okay, so there's like a lot of significant moments, and
I know people are gonna be like screaming at their
screen right now about certain things, and I can't name
all of them. Let's go with the top three. And
that's the because there was fourteen escapes, I think fourteen
overall escapes from Alcatraz. But there's the one with the

(37:18):
England brothers and the one guy that that you see
with the movie Clint Eastwood. There's also the Battle for Alcatraz,
which is the largest escape attempt, which included two deaths
of officers and two inmates dying as well several people
injured in that one were guns were wrestled away. And
then there's the one that I think most people seem

(37:39):
to be interested about is the takeover of Alcatraz in
nineteen sixty nine, which is the Native American takeover. Take
it over, No, and it is their land if you
want to go buy the United States's treaties.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
We see in nineteen sixty nine, a group of Native
Americans coloring themselves in of all tribes, occupied Alcatraz Island,
which had been federal prison and then surplus covered properly. Yeah,
because nineteen months occupation with a protest gave me the
history of discrimination and treaty violations against the Native Americans
aiming to reclaim land and raise awareness about the light

(38:19):
of America. I wonder how they got there?

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Okay, I could. I know all this.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I know how they get there.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
We don't have to google this because I did the research,
my friend. Okay, so let me read these books for
so long? Why you keep talking about I'm asking you
how did they get to the island? I got it?
Set it up? I okay? They got there by boats?
Is that? What they got there? By boats? They got
on boats to give them the boats they acquired like
they were Americans?

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Who and what kind of done that they have?

Speaker 3 (38:43):
They didn't have any guns.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
I'm saying there because I have a friend Native American
Pima Papa go and they're not Pima papa no more.
They called something else. He said that a while back,
there was when it wasn't this is nineteen ninety, nineteen
eighty seven, eighty eight, but there was a bunch of
Native Americans finding in Canada for some land back then.

(39:11):
But he knew it because he was Native, and he
said that the Russians and China giving those Native Americans
Czechoslovakia and Chinese ak forty seventh.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Perhaps I don't think this group was that, this was a.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Group of this is a different one, is of this
a different one? This is the one that happened, like yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, So there were no so some of everything
you know about that, well, there.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Actually was three to four other attempts at occupying it
by Native American groups before that, and there was a
treaty written called the Laramie Treaty that said that any
defunct or surplus land by the military went back to
the Native Americans that owned that area, okay, And so
they were using that treat that law to say, hey,

(40:01):
this is surplus land because it wasn't a park. After
it closed down for the longest time, it was just
like left there to rot and there was some guy
maintaining it. And then there was a few attempts and
then there was one big push by this group to
get on the island, and they took advantage of the
fact that we were in the middle of a huge
civil rights thing going on in the country and Nixon

(40:24):
also with his bad behavior about to come up, didn't
want to do anything, you know, violently, and these so
these kids kind of took it. Was like a bunch
of college kids. There was a girl from Berkeley who
initiated the actual Native American studies at Berkeley. But before this,
there was no Native American studies. So she's like, I

(40:47):
want to start a school. Let's take this land. They
wanted to start a school, a kitchen, childcare place for
Natives to live and call it their own land. And
they did that for quite some time, like almost a year.
I think it was nineteen months that they kept. So
over a year that they kept occupation of this land.
How many I got up to about four.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Hundred all showed up in the middle of nine both a.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Buch of I think it was fifty generally showed up
in the middle of the night with boats, and then
slowly more Native Americans started showing up. And they have
no guns, no guns, no weapons. It was a peaceful takeover.
And actually it was a peaceful take back, very peaceful.
It was actually. And the thing is is that the
impact itself at the moment was kind of lacklesser, Like
when you look back on it, you're like, it was

(41:32):
kind of like nineteen twenty four, how it was like
it it got a lot of attention, but then it
also got started getting like like nobody started caring after
a while, and then when they laughed, it wasn't like
it was a big deal for a hot minute and
then it went away. But what it did do was
the resounding effect was that we started learning about Native

(41:54):
Americans and what we did to them. Like before that,
there was no education in schools about it. We really
didn't care, like some of us knew. There was all
these rumors. There was cowboys and Indians on TV.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
This moment he watched with Cowboy India that the kid
all you see an end of messing up picnics.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
In a very bad way, in a very bad way.
But yeah, and that was what it was. But it
was the effect of it lasted a lot longer. The
markings of them taking over the place is still there.
And the only reason why they got removed is the
exact way that the CIA and the American government does everything.
They starved them ound, they cut off their water supply,
and they waited till they decided to not The guy

(42:39):
who led the movement also his daughter fell out of
a third story building on the island and died, and
so it kind of and he was the leader and
kind of the breath of everything, and it took him
out of play, and that's when the movement started to
kind of fall apart.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
So it took nineteen months to shut off the water.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Yeah, yeah, I mean they had them on there for
a long time, just kind of doing their thing because
the thing was bro was like because they were like, well,
how long can they sustain?

Speaker 2 (43:07):
And the new reporter were there.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
The government took like, couldn't even fucking sustain a prison
on there? How long are these guys gonna sustain? Because
there's no way. Again, there's here's the overall problem, and
it goes all the way to what Donald Trump is
trying to do. Now, you cannot get water on that island.
It's a rock. There's no fucking water table underneath it.
The fucking only water that's around it or near it
is all fucking salt water. And desalinating it is too

(43:32):
expensive as well, because we didn't even have equipment like
that that could do it in that fashion. So like
this island is useless. It's fucking useless other than it's
an attraction and even for those native people, it was
like only a matter of time before they couldn't sustain it.
It's kind of one of those things that should have
just been what it was, which was an army base,
and then left it that. But it was built to

(43:55):
do the same thing that like, because that was the thing.
That's why al Capone is so famous for me there,
because he had such influence, Like he was getting bedding
brought to his jail cell in in Kansas. What's that
fort in Kansas, the Levenworthworth. Yeah, so he was in
Fort Levenworth, but he took over the whole prison. He

(44:15):
bought a hotel next to the because he went to
prison with ninety two million dollars in his pocket yea,
even despite all that tax stuff. And so he bought
the hotel next to it, and he had his family
staying there and he was buying off the guards to
take care of him. And then again that's when the
government was like, yeah, there it is right there. The
government was like, let's get him the fuck out of here,

(44:37):
and they sent him like in the middle of the night,
picked up, taken Alcatraz and living like he's never ever
lived before. That was the thing about Alcatraz, it was
like very rigid.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
Man.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
They didn't own fucking nothing, dog, they didn't own anything.
Like when bird the Birdman died, he had two little
rags that were his and six dollars and fifty cents
from all the work that he did in Alcatraz. That
was like all that was left in his name. But
when when when al Capone was released, he had millions
of dollars. But he went crazy from the syphilis, the

(45:11):
undetected syphilis in his body.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
And in the movie Alcatrad escaped from Uncle Trad with
Clay east Wood, the Birdman, he chops his fingers off
at the woodshop in front of the guard when it
takes all his paints away.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Really yeah, I didn't see the movie.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, yeah, the movie, it taken away his paint brushes
and he chops his fingers off in front of the
one of the guards.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
I don't think that happened in real life though. He
was crazy though, that dude was like fucking he was
like Heinibal Lecter crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
And then and in the movie when when they're getting
together to rob to escape, they dug a hole through
the thing and they squeezed out.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, he used sharp and spoons to the out. If
you go to the prison now, that is still there
just like that, and you can see the hole. And
then when you walk around the cell block, they have
like a window through the wall, so you can see
how they escaped and went up the wall and out
the roof.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
It's hard to imagine somebody escaping without having outside help.
And it seems like there was. There were no way
to communicates. There were no bithers, right, letters, no.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
No nothing, no letters, no fuck no nothing because nope,
it was designed to isolate you from people that would
help you.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
This.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
This prison was designed to eliminate high profile guys from
having power and high level escapees to leave. It was
it was actually up until the first escape, it was
deemed like inescapable.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
And then that guy from that movie with Qristin Slater,
that guy had over escaped but another president that was
wait what the guy that he was, he was he
was protecting he was He was the guy that the
main character in the movie. He was in Alcatraz for

(47:13):
escaping in another prison. Yes, he was instant because of
Limber he was. He escaped, escaped.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
All these guys were there because they were good escape artists, Like,
that's the thing, dude, is what's funny to me is this,
there's my favorite prison in the world. What prison is that?
That's that's where all the guys from Al Salvador are
being sent to, which is like our version of Alcatraz.

(47:42):
It's been a lot worse. Yeah, actually, yeah, it's a
lot worse.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I don't know about that prison. The videos of same
inmates I'm not seeing. I'm not saying that the prison
doesn't exist, but I keep seeing the same inmates.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
You don't think there's as they say there is.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
I'm not saying there's are the only one video?

Speaker 3 (48:01):
You know what you're onto something here?

Speaker 2 (48:03):
There's only one video, right, I see these guys, yeah
all the time. I don't see the new guys. I
don't see like I don't see bringing in no fat dudes.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Can I give you a comparison to this? So they
talk about in the book they and and and it's
widely known in the barrier A people who are in
the Alcatraz that there's this place called the dungeon, and
it's where they would send prisoners who were misbehaving, and
it was fucking heinous in there, and what the guards
actually did, and this is in the records, is that
they would march the guy and since so many guys

(48:31):
were in solitude and didn't weren't able to speak to
each other, there was an inframation along saying like hey,
this is bullshit. But they would march the guy down
into the D unit, which was the dungeon, and then they.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
How many how many people are there? Broke getting their balls?

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Yeah, prither than what? So they were they were marched
down into the part where that everybody didn't want to go,
that was scary, that was fucked up, like Seacott, And
and then they'd give them a few days there and
then they'd march them back into another part of the
prison that was isolated but better, so that the other

(49:07):
prisoners were like, they're fucking taking us down there and
leaving us to rot, and they're actually not. But it
was a psychological game that the that the administration did
to keep the prisoners in line. So maybe that's what's happening,
is that what you're.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
I just feel that the same video every time?

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Yeah, absolutely, what.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
You know, it's the same video, bro, Like the showing
of the same video, same inmates, same cholos, I haven't
seen no new cholos in that video. I haven't seen
an knee anybody getting nabbed. You know, no people, maybe
they grabbed all of them already. They've gotten a lot
what it costs, what it costs to three forty thousand inmates, bro,
and fucking so we're gonna in fucking it's all with or.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Break down this one.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
That's the opening day of the coat right there.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
See.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
I think this video like, oh, was it really the
same video, the same video or some I don't care
that it was three days ago. I saw the same thing.
I saw it when it opened. I watched the opening
of this and this is the opening right here.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
That these guys right here with the tattoos are not
from America. Nobody in that video.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
This video is taking sea if you have not, if.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
You ever show video of Americans getting thrown into that
prison there, they'll be darker because we have better sun
in America. The sun hits is better. There's a better
tann we eat will be fatter. We eat better in America,
and it's just fatter. Bro. I don't care what if

(50:41):
you're an immigrant that came from a skinny in America
we go like like like like when I mentioned that
the guy saw her husband in that video, I'm sorry, lady,
let's see that video.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Well that guys, I don't think. Here's the thing, dude,
is like, yeah, I want that guy to come back,
and I'm not talking about it. That guys is probably
living good right now.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
See, you get into four of the conversation here. We're
talking about seeing him in the video, right, Well, that's it.
We're talking about his conditions. We're talking about worthy from
what he did. Where's that video? Right, That's what I'm asking. Yeah,
you get too ahead of the conversation here. Bro, she
says she's not her husband, but where at the other
motherfucker look the same?

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Right right? Right? Yeah, I mean, I mean the perfect it's.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Like they were I'm gonna say nothing. But it's not
that they were all higher from central casting. We need
like five foot five men all lined up together.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Yeah, I don't know, dude, I don't know. Yeah, it's
you know, there's there's a lot of people in El
Salvador that are like freaking out right now because of
this place.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, but it's saves those streets are saved, though, Bro,
you can a skateboard. We're at getting jacked right.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Also, if you have a tattoo, you can just get
picked up off the off the streets. They have a
ninety day suspension and it's repeatedly happening on their version
of habeas corpus, which allows, like so our Salvador has
somewhat the same thing that we have, which is called
habeas corpus. It means that I have to have an
warrant to come in your house. I have to even

(52:20):
if I arrest you and you're an immigrant, you have
to face due process, and so habeas suspension of and
that's that's the habeas corpus writ which demands that it's
a right that all people living in America, not just Americans,
have the suspension of that takes away the right to
do that, which is what our administration is considering right now.

(52:41):
But in Nol Salvador they've already pulled it from them,
and every ninety days, because it only lasts ninety days,
in El Salvador, every now inety days Bouquele restarts it.
And if you have tattoos, just even the tattoos that
you have or the tattoos that I have, we get
taken in. Yes, and we get questioned what do those

(53:02):
tattoos mean? And if it means a gang even from
twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, bye, there you go,
You're gone. And so that's what's happening in El Salvador.
That's what people are claiming that are not for what's
happening in l Salvador. You know, but there is a
large majority of people and I'm not gonna ignore those
people that are like, we're fucking happy we're not being

(53:23):
terrorized by these people, which is true. Those people were
fucking terrorist.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
We're talking about Alcatraz right here, right, yeah, sure to Alcatras. Okay,
all right, all right, think to the facts. Well you
know about Alcatrass, what do you want to know? I
won't tell me differently, even if you know more about
which is not the subject they talk about.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
You were talking about El Salvador and you asked me
about it, and that's what the information I gave you.
So you can't say, well, just.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
In the same video, those same video, those same video.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Right right, what do you want? I mean? Okay, so
you on statistics, you want to know about a certain guy,
you want to know.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
About were Acatraz. Wait what there were women?

Speaker 3 (54:06):
No women in Alcatraz. It was just pure men.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
So most of the people that were that were like
locked up. And just say, like, if we were to
put people in there right right, it would better be kidnappers, right, It.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Would be high and murderers if we were to put
them on there now because we don't have a lot
of escape attempts now, given this like technology that we
have for prisons now, and I think it would be
mostly high profiled guys that have a lot of power.
So like all those guys that are running like prison
gangs in in California, like m or Nostern Familia or

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Northern Structure, all.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Those kings, anybody, any of those guys would.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Be put there because each cell is solitude. It's not
you're not with anybody else, You're by yourself.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Let's just secure housing unions, the shoe.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Uh yeah, pretty much. And the only time you get
to see someone if you're a good in me is
during regtime. But if you are not a good prisoner,
you still get reg time, but you get it by yourself.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Man. I've seen in a movie where they will get
reg time in change because they're still crazy bro.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Right, Yeah, they want to go fight right away. Yes,
there was guys in there like that that would like,
there's a guy in there that just wanted to kill
cops and they locked him up in there. And during
the Battle of Alcatraz. Do you want to know about
the Battle of Alcatraz, which is really really interesting. It
was a plan escape by like seven dudes, and there
was one guy who was like the leader, and this

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guy named Koi. And so there's a track that goes
over the whole prison that was called the gallery, and
that's where the guns were, and they would walk to
look down and you could see down all the avenues
and everything. This guy found a set of bars that
were five inches apart, and he created a tool in
the shop to stretch him to ten inches apart, and

(55:56):
then he covered himself in axle grease and he slipped
through and he beat the fuck out of the first guy.
He took his keys, got into the gun thing, gave
all the guns to his buddies, and then they took
that whole wing hostage. And at the time, the other
CEOs didn't know that what was going on. So when

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they'd go to investigate why it was so quiet, in there.
These guys would get him, beat the fuck out of
him and put him in a cell. And then once
it was noted that there was something going on, they
had already like ten eleven hostages cops in cells. And
these two guys, coy and his buddy went over to
the cops and just started shooting him in the cells.

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And one guy shot in the head, and miraculously all
those guys survived, even the guy was shot in the head.
There were two cops later on because this gunfight went
on to the point of like the warden had to
call the Navy had to call two US Marine battalions
from Treasure Island, the cops from Oakland, the cops from

(56:58):
San Francisco, the cops Malamedia, and all these boats were surrounded.
There was like battles and ship to the inmates were
murdered and killed during the siege and then uh three
were caught and then two of them were giving the
gas chamber and the only one that was let go
was because the bad guys gave him a gun and

(57:19):
said the right.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
The guy we interviewed to the right. Yeah, A lot
of a lot of the a lot of the people
that work learning the escape.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
They're they're like just because you know, you gotta hold
like a badge of honor or stay tight to your group.
They all say they died. They all say they it's
impossible that there's no way that they could have done
this without help from the outside. And there's no way
to get help on the outside. There's no boats picking
them up, there's nothing right. Yeah, yeah, the water the

(57:57):
current is real rough, right, bro, Nobody starting to swim
that ship even now.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
There's sharks in that water, like, there's mako sharks. There's
a few great whites. There's all kinds of ship. The
water is so coold.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
The water moves different ways, fast fast, fast, Like they
will suck you back into the island somehow, right.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Well it has yeah, because it has a huge well
won't suck you into the island, and the will take
you out to the ocean.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
And that movie Papion when he finally escaped, was that
island was hard to escape either too, because the current
comes in real and the daytime is empty, right, so
there's no current, but then it comes in, but you
have to wait for the water to come in because
then it splashes out exactly. So he will do it
with he would do he will drop coconuts, then the

(58:43):
coconuts would just bounce and hit the wall hard dog.
They will do it in a day time with too
much water. But he finally one day bro he did it.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
He's testing to see if his head would basically crash crash.
So that's the thing is. Can you a map of
Alcatraz inside of San Franciso, Because if you look, so
there's a so the bay is created because of all
the water that comes down for the mountains above northern California,
and all those waters come down through two or three

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channels into the bay area. Now Alcatraz sits right in
the middle of all the water that's leaving the Bay area.
And so when you look at it, you see all
that water is going out towards the Golden Gate bridge
and it's going around the Alcatraz area out and see
you look, yeah, so it's either going through so it's
coming down and instead of going towards the Bay Bridge,

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it'll swoop to the Golden Gate because that's the larger
alleyway for the water. And it's why those channels are
huge for ships to come through. But it's because it's
moving all that sediment underneath, but it's moving so fast
and you can't see it. Looking at it, you go,
how the fuck can that happen? But it's moving so
because it's water flowing from the mountains leading into the bay.

(59:58):
These guys who are not aware of channels and currents
are trying to swim that and they're being pushed out.
The only ones that people believe made it because out
of everything I read were those two guys that were
from the escape of Alcatraz, were the two brothers and
the one guy that escaped with them, because they actually
made a boat out of raincoats and they did make

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it all the way into the water, and they were
aiming for Angel Island, and one of their ideas was
found on Angel Island. So there's a belief that they
made it and that they stole the car and we're
in took off and they're living in There's like supposedly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Because that was a plan to make it to Angel Island,
that that Francisco.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
No, they wanted to go to Angel Island because if
they showed it in San Francisco, they'd have been caught
right away. Angel Island was like kind of an abandoned
military like installation. Yeah, totally still there. You have to
get permission to visit it because it's a it's a
preserve for for a wild life.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
So that's crazy. I never thought about that. They went
to that island first.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Yeah, and then they went from there to Marin Supposedly,
if they did survive, they went to Marin.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Look at this boat. Dude, you're gonna tell me because
I'll say this, dude, you can survive the ten pat Like,
it's not far.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
It's a mile from from uh Alcatraz out there. Huh No, No,
that island back there, oh, back there behind it that shadow, Yeah,
that could be. I don't know, yah, I mean it's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
I don't know what it is from Angel Island is
probably a little bit more than a mile, but it's
a mile from Alcatraz to San Francisco, So like closer,
I think it's a little bit further, but it's not
too much further. Can you look it up to see
or just look.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
At the map escape from Alcatraz?

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
I got it right here. How far is Angel Island
from Alcatraz? This is between is ten miles. Holy fun.
I've heard of that's a lot more than I thought
ten miles. Holy fuck. Keep in mind that the ferry
route between the two islands is not directed and involves
a transfer. Okay, yeah, okay, there's Alcatraz, there's Angel Islands

(01:02:13):
way closer. See that's what That's not at all what
I was thinking. Holy fuck. And see those are the
currents right there, right is that the oh those are
the swims? Yeah, okay, see, but did But the Angel
Island makes sense because it's the most abandoned. Those other

(01:02:33):
areas would be super Go back to that real quick.
If you can see beneath the bridge, those two points
right there, impossible to get up, dude, fucking impossible to
get up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Possible. But they should be a casino like that, Guys, did.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
I think that? Honestly? Bro, that would be the best,
the best thing. And out, Yeah, that would be honestly.
That's not a fucking shutout.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
And then bring in like one hundred million pounds of
dirt from somewhere make the island bigger.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Right. Yeah. That's the other thing too, is you were
saying that the other day. I don't think if we knew,
you were saying it to be funny. But yeah, you
can't fucking add well, like now we know how to terraform.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Yes, because China expanded an airport illegally somewhere to the
China Sea, and there's a there's an island of China
of Japan that that I've China been encroaching for years
and making it bigger and bigger.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Broo are the currents.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Check out the illegal island built in China outside of Japan.
That's it right there, Bro. But they're starting out shop.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Dirt, bro, Holy fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
So you fucking you get, you get, you get, We
get alcatrass, bro and more. We just add more dirt
to it, bro at some casinos local eleven janer workers. Yeah,
because alcatrast is the size of what how many cruise
ships thirty?

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
No, last last, like maybe three or four them. Cruise
ships are massive, though.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
You make it out. You make Alco tras brow or
big body.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Two acres, put it two acres, so maybe twenty I
don't know how big is this ship. I would say
ship has got to be at least an acre So
then you might be able to fit twenty two ships
worth of casinos.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
On a ship in the size of a regular sized
skyscraper but with wheels. Yeah, you got a molinary, you
got elevators, you got three pools.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Yeah, I wonder how money you can fit it, like
what would be? But that's the thing is that, I mean,
I agree with that, dude. Like, and also if it's native,
if it actually does go back to native people, you
have a Native American casino on there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Hey to work it, comedy shows, Hey, welcome to Aco.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Trass I was big and so old this weekend to
give me his connection to the fucking cruise ships.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Now you got three different thirty minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
You don't do those same t tell us to you.
I have to give you my best, so the rest
is crap. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
See's the thing is, you give me lessons and then
you shoot on me later for following those lessons. Because
one of the first things you ever told me was, bro,
do the same fifteen minutes all the time, so it
gets really good and that's your presentation. And then also
whenever you're opening for something, this is before you were
a famous comedian, you were like, whenever you're opening for someone,
don't do new material, never do your best best. So

(01:05:30):
that's what I'm giving you at fifteen. But you can
ask the folks of Sacramento. I have an hour every year.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
I don't know it's funny, but that's funny. Man. We
have to work with a comedian and every time he'll
come back to us, well, how was the show? Bro
I got a new forty five? No, And then I thought, buddy,
he got married a young color. Don't shoot nobody with it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Yeah, I've had to say all of a bit. I've
had the same hour for the last like four or
five years.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
That's fair. I have the same hour for worth of
my life. But when I when I shot it, it
was tough. Prograss. You want to do the same hour, bro?

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Right, how is that? When you shoot a special and
you got to start writing new material.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
You a free cow? Brok So because I remember the
first show I did with new material. It was in Naples, Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
When we went this last time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Yeah, when Lisa's family was there. Right, will back. You
just did Sacramento and it had nothing, bro. So I
did the I did the jokes that I didn't do
the last specials. It was a nice thirty five, So
I worked with that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
It was great. It was great.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
All the shout out to that one home boy that
came to our show and reading reading California or or
or the week.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Before Boise and Yakima.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
I think I got from Yakama man because he was
a pot smoker. He said it was cool man, you
were on wheels woke the same.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Oh yeah, bro, yeah that's right there. Shut out those
two brothers because I got that. Yeah, it came up
to me and they were like, bro, that was in
Yakama and then yeah, so we fucking found you on
we don't smoke the same?

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Yeah, man, I'm pretty sure if they were, they would
have do it. Like a room that seits two hundred live,
they'll get at least two hudred people show up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
I agree, I agree. I'm trying to take it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
I'm trying to you know, Joe Dial, he should do
live churches, whats happening? He will get one hundred people
just listen to the podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
I don't know what do you guys think? Should we
do live history will full? Now?

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
No, ain't no time for that. You could do it
by yourself, bro, in a litw corner, little closet. You
didn't twenty people thirty bucks each, two people show up
eight that's sifty bucks. Dude. Yeah. Man, So I'm pretty

(01:08:01):
sure that the guy would have watched that live show live. Yeah. Man,
they were all happy, all those two dudes.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Yeah, they were ecstatic.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Big yacka my fans if you're listening. Also, man, shout
out to the Homeboy. He said his favorite episode of
History for Fools was the Water Wars.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Water Wars, Yeah, dude, that's the thing. And I appreciate
everybody comes up to me and I'm always gonna ask
you what your favorite is, you know, and it's nice
to share. I have my favorites, which you're your favorite, dude,
water Wars is definitely one of them. With serial murders
is my top, top, top top by far, the funnest.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
I like the story we did. I like the Water Wars,
but I like the story of the guy who started
the films when he fucking brought in all the stuff. Yes,
it's funny how they all worked out together, has the right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Time, huh right, all that came together, that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Mahallan is the guy that went that took that water
in the middle of the night.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
The middle of the night and then fucking my my
favorite part of that are the most fascinating and I
talk about this every time I drive into the valley.
Was that the valley, the San Fernando Valley, was supposed
to be a completely different city, and they were supposed
to be the twin cities of the West Coast and
Los Angeles and the San and the city of San Fernando.
And then in the middle of the night, fucking Ballholland

(01:09:21):
came and was like, Hey, you guys want to use
our water, then you need to be part of us.
And all these rich guys are like, got it, buddy,
And then in the middle of the night, all these
people from San Fernando became Los Angeles, and Los Angeles
became the largest city in the fucking country, probably in
the world at that day.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
They got him, got him? Brouck, Is that your favorite?

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Was that? Your favorite episode was the Water Wars?

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
That one and the one about history of comedy, of course,
history of Chinese Food.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
That one was so good, dude, because it was like,
I like that one because it was like, oh, it's
not just about Chinese food. It's about the Opium Wars,
it's about England, it's about America, it's about how we
treat people.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
But it's funny, Manal everybody's been treating bad Huh. Everybody
did the We did the history of circus. You gotta
kill ten elephants just to bring a baby elephant.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
The treachery of history is fucking wild, man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
I know, man, when I were reading a book about
the circuses those there was a there was a fucking
circus that the whole fucking circuit burd in a bowl. Bro.
I read about that, But imagine bro hearing like animals. Okay,
you know, human screaming, but then but you know, like,
it's bad when the animals are screaming.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Right, Yeah, it's yeah, that you could hear the animals screaming. Dude,
that ship was I read that. I think we read
the same book. Yeah, I can't remember, but I think
that was in that. Yeah, dude. I think when when
people go, I can't watch the news, it depresses me.
I'm like, dude, and I'm not a historian, but I
think of historians, actual guys who know all the details

(01:11:01):
of history, because if you know that, then you know
it's been fucked forever. It's been fun.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
They don't want to people people would like want to
hear the truth, but they can't handle it right Well.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
The other thing is, you don't know how good all
of us have it right now. The poorest person living
in this country has it better than the richest king
of England. Uh, you know hundreds of years ago. Fuck yeah, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
And the poor white dude in the world, the poor
white dude in the world is just happy he ain't Blackbro.
He's thinking, God, like Chris Roth's choking, you want to
trade place with me?

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
There's He's all. There's a waiter with a missing leg
in here right now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
He don't want to be me.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
I love that joke, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
That's what people don't undersand about why privilege is that
it ain't about being being economy, having money and being rich,
the white guy just being white. It's a privilege because
you could you could be driving with your white with
your car and I'm not gonna think twice that you
stole it, you know, and and the cops thinking, I

(01:12:12):
think twice that you stole it. But you see a
black man driving a nice car, the whole world is
going to be thinking that he stole it. And that's
the that's that's the sad thing is that because of
the movies and the books that we read that we
have to see as a person who's dark as fuck
and darker than us as a bad guy. And that's

(01:12:32):
the way the way people say that we're at we're
mad at Hollywood, But it's Hollywood that made you think
that way. There has been a movie ever built where
a black guy goes after a bunch of white guy
who committed a crime right right for the last time
a black guy went under cover of the surfer to

(01:12:54):
catch a bunch of bat guys.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
That's a idea with hell yeah, points is named the
fucking guy from Sinners.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Yeah. So white privilege is just the fact that you're
white and the people are gonna give you the benefit
of the doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Here's something that I've noticed. When I get pulled over
with my lady who's white, I get treated by the
cops so much different than when I get pulled over
by myself.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Why are you getting pulled over.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
Though, because I'm speeding or I don't speed?

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
You know, don't speed.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
You've never been pulled over?

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
No, never, never, And I've written dirty dog, I've written
dirty and didn't get pulled over. I had that, I
don't have it, but don't speed Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
I get pulled over sometimes just because of how I look.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Just don't speed, bro, don't go over railroad tracks. Don't
go over you go. Can you go a lot of
red lights when we work together in the Berkeley. Just
don't do those things. Don't ride on the wrong of
the road. Don't smoke weed in the car. All right,
all right to your car, I will you over just
on the feather. I know your car is dirty, and
I'm gonna find something there that they legal, like what whatever?

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
A pie?

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
A piecause I see a burger right there, wrapped up
real neat. I'm opening it up.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Because this is why you gotta watch where you left.
Felipe into your life, because he'll judge you because I
got my car ball. This is gonna come up on
the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Yeah, bro, it all starts off.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
I could just like you can look at a person's
car and no right a way, how dirty it is
that they don't make their bed, they leave, they leave
wrappers of the ritos open randomly somewhere. These other things
I did, those the things I did, you know, like
me when I had my car with dirty as I
guess what My feet were dirty too. My fucking house
was dirty. I had my refrigerator was opened. I didn't

(01:14:48):
even close it, and everything was rotting in there. But
once I started doing one thing, somebody told me, Bro,
make your bed, and then that's make my bed. Then
everything else followed, Bro. I started picking up stuff off
the ground. I started to tying my shoes, something I
never did.

Speaker 5 (01:15:05):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
My shoes always been slip on, no matter, no matter
what when I buy them. I turn once and that
was it. Just talk with little things, you know, like reading.
All right you Rizzo and Alferd Roblest probably could have
a contest, Bro, who has the most trash in the
car from one time? Offer Robleist Willie Partida When it started,

(01:15:32):
Alfred Robleist car and Joe Dobbin threw up, hey, Bro,
what time of the car with my dirty ass car?
My car was dirty? Time I farted at Alford Robins

(01:15:53):
threw up.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Love Oh no, Bro, oh man, that's awful. He threw.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
It because I had a burrito there and I couldn't
find it. It was rotting. Bro, It's done. And then
I farted, Bro, And I feel.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Like this broad It was like this dog. I didn't
even like that ship, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
My windows didn't open either.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
You're tasting what that motherfucker ate when that happens, dude,
And that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
He farted and he wanted to throw up, and then
you wanted to throw up what happens because it stunk
so bad. It was so gross. Dog. But I first
rove his car was the worst. It was green. God,
it was I have roaches, Bro, he had roaches, Like

(01:16:46):
I was starting to get Rachel, fumigate this car.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
Bro's enough, you knew what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
History, fools, That will happen when we swallow one of
the one of the skeleton Stop that would happen when
swallow one of those skeleton keys from Alcatrash.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Oh oh oh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Talk about how the doors in Alcatrash the octlobe by
one lever.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Yeah, it was innovative at the time. Now that well,
I think now they have a different system. But that
was the first system that they built. When they built
a new part of the prison, they installed all the
tracks and it was like, uh, you know, you could
pull all of them open with one lever, or you
could pick which one you wanted to go do with

(01:17:47):
a certain notch and pull that one and that would
only open one door.

Speaker 5 (01:17:51):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Do you remember something, Bro that that would open chips
in my house and then throw the wrapper on the floor.
And then I started noticing that I do it in
my hotel room. That's what happened, Bro. I was treating
my house like a hotel room, thinking the house keeper
is going to come in one day. I never did
did Yeah, my mom, My mom came my house one day, Bro,

(01:18:15):
and she found so much ship I lost, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Like a rock, like a coke rock.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Nice?

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Did she give it to you?

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
She said, she didn't throw it away.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
She had to answer for it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
That's the worst. I to drive a pipe in front
of my mom. Bro, we will stare at it. And
I picked it up jokingly. I thought, you quick, Did
that really happened?

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
What did she say? She laughed or did she get mad?
That's fucking classic, Bro, you have to laugh at that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
So what's up, fool? Shout out to Butcher's father, man,
doing good things out there happened? Happen helping people with
math and ship getting algebra. Meanwhile bush over here the dunce.
How parents, Man? They always help other people out there,
but except the people they need to help it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
My pops is a big help but you know that
he's a huge activist. I'll say this, dude, this is
the first time I talked I've talked about this publicly,
but I'm already starting to make jokes. My mom as
much as of a pillar of the community as she
was helped. Everybody was super abusive and beat the fuck
out of me, like my whole life.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
And I got to take out some of the Miko.
The fucking kids over here, they break my heart. I
want to beat their assets and ship. I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
I feel like a cops kid are a principal's kid
when it's like, how come they're fucking all good?

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
And I'm not what the That's how I feel, bro,
Like I see I'm watching these YouTube video the dog
doing tricks, and I'm looking at my dog ripped cushions apart.
How could you guys don't learn how to do that?

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Ship?

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Why an't you swimming?

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
Look at this guy? Look at you? What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Trick at that ship? You bar get squirrels.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
I feel your dogs, though, I do feel your dogs
right now. How come you don't clean your car? Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
I remember, man, my car went off just dirty, Bro,
But the passenger seat was so broken that that no
matter who sat there, if I'm at a left turn,
we're gonna spoon all the way to my detonation.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Fuck ye, the fucking the seat slides over.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Oh. I had to warn somebody to get into the
back seat because there was a big pole out of
the front seat. That is stabbing that came out and
if you get into far you can scrape your chin.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Oh yes, dude, like super dangerous rusty ship in there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
How about that that one call your homeboy head with
a hole on the bottom.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Ah, have you ever had the one with the passenger
seats missing? It's just a bench in the back.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
How about you make a left turn, You're gonna hold
a fucking the passenger side of the door.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
I've actually had that car.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
I had a car bro that every time I started
it will talk shit to me like no, no, no, no, no,
no loser, I started talk to me, Hell no, that's
my car. No Bro. I thought that the search though
the engine light was always that part of the car. Dog.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Yeah, growing up, you look over it's yellow, that means
it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Hell yeah man. Anyway, man, when you're when you're struggling,
comic clean cleanliness is like as far away as godliness
to us.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
I feel that. You know. That's the thing though, is
like because like you get in my car right after
I get back from a run and it's like filled
with ship because I've just been driving, eating and throw it.
And to your credit, you are making a good point.
My dad would probably sit here and agree with you. Like,
if you start cleaning up the very small things in
your life, the big things in your life get cleaned up.

(01:22:10):
That's the message you're trying.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
To tell, right, Yeah, baby steps, but I had to
work on it. But I'm also telling myself that too, right,
because yeah, man, I.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
Think I started out with myself first and not I'm
working all my way into like physically cleaning things up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Like my problem is that I have I have like
a hundred shirts to throw away. But they were talking
about buy it a throw away twenty I come back
with thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Do you keep a lot of shirts you like? Like,
are you like kind of a because that's my problem
with clothes is like it still works even though it's
not like it's got holes in it or something, it
still works.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Like the like you may you like shorts, you have
to dress up like Hitler Hitler youth.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
I love shorts. I don't like to be. The only
time I like I wear pants is sometimes in here
or on stage. But if I had my choice, even
in the winter, I'd wear fucking shorts.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Like Fluffy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Yeah, I wouldn't say that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Shorts. Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
Don't compare me to that guy, bro, Like that's a
whole fucking costume on there. Like you know, I'm not
trying to say against him. You know, Fluffy, do you think, homie.
I love that you're doing that. You look great. But
for me, wearing Bermuda shorts and Bermuda shirts is people
would just fucking shoot me.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
You never I'm watching you in a big screen right now,
and and I'm looking at you and I've never seen
you wear a Hawaiian shirt. No, never, or like I
don't see you never wear a Hawaiian shirt, bro, I
don't see you. Like wearing a Tommy Bahama shirt.

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
Like.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
Black shirt jeans was like my uniform in high school.
And after uh, this is like probably like this is
blue almost, But yeah, I don't like to rite like
out of the realms of darkness. This is how I
just how I just never was like in the fashion
I was just never into like how the fuck am
I gonna look when I you know, and now like

(01:24:05):
on stage, I try to like wear clean shirts.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
And you know you're the Wolf shirts.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
Yeah, I have the Wolf shirts. This one's a little
bit different. But I love shopping at fucking truck stops,
so I know that. Sometimes I'll see in the comments
we were like, where the fuck did you get that shirt?

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Truck stops if you just drive up and down the
col Highway ninety eight, fool.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
That's right. Any truck stop along any of the California
highways has the best shirts ever, you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Know, the best one for the best ones I've seen
were like the ones where the truck stop that have
a shower have good t shirts.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Yes, yeah, yeah they have clothes and shit, Dude, I
like trucks.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
Also, Man, support watch the road when you're out there
with truck drivers. Man, there's a lot of truck drivers
delivering food, delivering products all over America, and a lot
of them are trying to get home to their loved ones.
So wash the road for them, give them the right away. Man. Also, man,
these guys, man, they got to softwer through fucking the

(01:25:01):
most ugliest women all over the American is rest stops.
These these these desert lizards, lot of lizards. So man,
not only that, man, they deal with the ugliest prostitutes
in America to protect them at all. Well, history for
fools post you Asketbar with the Alcatras facts. The only

(01:25:24):
one that we could say has worked in Alcatraz in
this group. Yeah, and also shout out to Larry Bubbles
Brown for playing the actor who was from Alcatraz. Bro,
that fool was driving You have that video?

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
Is it Rodriguez?

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
I have a video?

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
That is When you were explaining that to me, I
already knew you, like because you started out not saying
who it was, and I was like, I bet you
that was Larry.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
That was Larry. You have shows coming up?

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
I have shows with you, yes, sir. And then I'll
be at the riff Raft this month. Check out the
comedy store. Check out my instagram but Chescobar.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
And So you're a regular at the Improv but not
working there anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
No, I'm just I'm like a past comic there, Like
I get booked for Cold Open.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
So you still like a cold opening?

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
Yeah? Yeah, I have no problems. Like I left the Improv,
like peacefully. I love you guys. I just have to
do like because the problem is they have me working
every night and then they weren't going to be able
to give me time off to go on tour with
you and and other comics. So I have to make
a decision. I love that place and working there was
probably one of the best jobs I ever had in
my life. And you know, give them a shout out

(01:26:47):
if I care to Rita for always looking out for me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
And yeah, your comedy is getting better, bro, see you
up there killing it hosting.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
Have a lot of confidence stuff or kind of more
like like you feel free, like this is what I'm
gonna do.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I feel a lot more confident now.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
The improvement great show. The other night. They had like
Craig Robinson clothing it out power within the show.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
To lineup really good lineups. The Improv Spectacular comedy right
now is on fire. You know, both Comedy Store and
the Improv and the Laugh Factory are doing really great,
you know, and.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Uh, I'm I'm glad that. Like it's like you're still hungry,
you know, like I seed it and you're like I
get motivated that you're still thirsty for for comedy. Like
a lot of people like who are doing it in
front as long as you do. They see it like
mundane routine. They didn't want to go where they're set.
But I guess we're working at the at the door

(01:27:52):
as the doormat humbled. Maybe you hungry for comedy. But
although people know people love this podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
Hey, the podcast actually has helped me a big time.
It's why I moved to La. I wasn't gonna move
to La until the like, you know, I was like, bro,
like thank you to Felipe and his wife and the
management team for like putting up with me living out there.
But I was like, at some point, I don't know
if it's you know, they're gonna get sick of me
coming out, so I'm gonna just move out there. And

(01:28:19):
so I moved out here. And then moving out here
gave me so much more confidence. It was like holy fuck,
because I didn't, honestly, bro, I didn't think I would
get past with the improv. I didn't think that I
could like stand with a lot of these people out
here to do it. I've been having so much fucking
fun and no, man, the hustle is the best part.
Chasing after it is the best part. I'm kind of
worried that if one day I have what I want

(01:28:41):
and out of comedy, that I won't chase it anymore,
because right now I fucking love chasing it. I love
living in my fucking tiny ass room, fucking struggling for
this shit. I can go get a job right now
pays me a lot of money with what I know
and what I have under my belt. But fuck no, dude,
I want to do this the rest of my fucking life.
I love comedy. Fucking love it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
Hell yeah, man, They're gonna bury me with a microphone
coffin people. People gonna pass by micropo. Hey, what's.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
It's all? It's sticking out of your head and people
just come by roasting.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
The first time, the first time he's stiff, Hey, all right,
the first time he died. Guys, Hey, hey, man, who
who's your code opener? Wow? Man, he's leaving. He's leaving
the earth the way he came into America in a casket. Anyways,

(01:29:49):
Philippi wanted to be cremated, so we rewrite him. People
are gonna take the ashes and make a chot that
with it. Dark Lord chat.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
I like casket. I just imagine it's a baby Felipe
being smuggled into America and a.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
Little sardine backage. Oh, man, Philippe is so greedy, man,
they could have buried more people inside of coffee.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
Fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
Yeah, dude, shout up to a wh what's your father's name?
Bob Escobar, Bob Escobar man and his lady.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
Hey, dude, I wanted to thank you too, because like
I tried my best to not like let people come
in the green room and stuff, and I kind of
noticed that, like my people like were in the green
because my girlfriend was with me, and then my buddy
all ek he did bring weed. Then my dad came
in and you indulged everybody. Reply to everybody. Everybody sent

(01:30:57):
me messages to let you know that they had the
best that's fucking time there and that really appreciated your
your hospitality, but me most of all, bro, because like
I've never seen my dad more proud in my life
than this weekend. That because like that was the thing.
Is the San Jose Event Center or sants A Civic
Centers where I used to go watch plays as a
little kid, watch concerts as a teenager, took my son

(01:31:18):
there to watch plays, and then I got yeah, you
saw Yo Gaba gabba. But my dad being able to
see us there and walk around and all the memories.
He has a picture of me in front of the
Civic Center and I should have brought it of me
as a baby in front of holding me in front
of the civic Center.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
I saw a picture, bro that you look cute. Bro. Yeah,
you're a ball with a gold tee. You wearing combat boots.

Speaker 5 (01:31:44):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
I came into the world like that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
Ay shirk. What's up, everybody? History for a Fool's Days
coming up? Philippineworld dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
Go check him out, man, Thank you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:32:14):
Book book is stan

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
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