EP 77 - The Rise And Fall Of The Berlin Wall - History for Foos

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Speaker 1 (00:44):
Guten ta history for fools, guttar guten Morgan Morgan olvidas
ain't bis Morgan. I mean that's you, good bye us tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Right German? I always said Russian because I took German.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
In high school. Bro she did through the whole semester.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
But you know a little German.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I know the conso ten fast and wow.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
And then one time you sang, I want to hold
your hand in German.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Give me my favorite is.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
We were in the green room and we found this
out and we were fascinated that you like could understand German.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
So do not forget the stuff that I know. And
I surprised myself and we had you.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I played the Hitlers. We started listening to the Hitler speeches.
You're like, never byd, I don't want to hear this anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
It was like it was like.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
A what do you call it? It was like a
parlor trick until like we whipped out the Hitler speech
and he was like this is too dark, and then
it just ended right there.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, we know that we need to play bingo in
our class in Germans. We could like practice. We're doing
like conversational stuff too.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
When you went to Germany. Did you speak German at
all or did you try or fun that? Did they
look at you differently? Did they look at you funny
or were they like cool?

Speaker 1 (02:16):
You're just surprised, but they were impressed.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
They were cool with it though, Right. That's the thing
is that culturally they didn't make fun of you for
trying to speak their language like some other cultures do
with people names Mexican.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
It is bro here's speech, and I'll read it to you.
Heine voke high right, hine fur walk step off. I
don't read the red part because it means the extermination
of somebody.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
That's where we were. This is exactly where we ended
up last time. Is that you start That's what it was.
You started to read it and then he stopped your all.
This is fucked up because he starts off as.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Was one people, one ryme, one leader, one barrowful phrase. Well,
and then he goes people rise, people rise up and
storm break loose, and then the other one of course.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Right, and then it gets dark like.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
A Jewish. This phrase, meaning elimination of jewelry, was used
by hitlering his regime to justify the persecution of Jewish people.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Wow, man, that is so.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Um this judn so like he was outline jewelry.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
He was outlying jewelry.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Spout g e w r y. This phrase meaning elimination
of jewelry was used by Hitler. Yeah, man, he did
all that with with off TikTok and instagram.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
He just stood on the top of a bar Bro
talking ship one day and nobody says, shut out, you're drunk.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
That was That's the problem that somebody didn't get up
and and like what if like the first time he
like made his speech in a bar like someone like
was ripped and just started beating the ship out of him,
would we have saved his all the problems that we
had or would there have been a different Hitler?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yes? Man, here it is Bro the whole speech. Do
mine out of brightfield? Rik tik host oh, do gloves?
Does e? Flaming? Gets complem bing? Does get a blotch?
In habits me in dec and jar and f I
griston hawe and everybody cheers. If I'm afraid to even

(05:01):
ask what he just said. You gotta have feelings with
how your words, Bro for people to believe you in
the big audience, just like a stand up comic, bro, Like,
you gotta have confidence in what you're saying, even when
you're doing like a like a live play, you know
in a theater, like they don't get no shitty actors,
you know, they gotta be Actually that our president does

(05:24):
it because Hitler used all his anger that he had
when people say you'll never make it as an artist.
They had you first half a ball, you half a testicle,
you know, because I remember had a joke that Hitler
had one testicle.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I heard that.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Imagine man, what he would have done with two balls?
Is that so reasally? When he was like Hitler, bro,
he wasn't like trying to like salute anybody because when
he did it, why would you healer himself? I think

(06:01):
he said he was he only had one test to go,
but it was unbalanced and he had to left raise
the arm. So when he had a heart on, he
won't lean to the right. I don't think that's he
won't lead to the left because it's all right wing.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Uh, that's where it came from, That's where all that started.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
And actually he was he was born in Austria, right,
and he's Jewish, just not Jewish, but yeah, but not
like hasidic or like that. He's like one of those
Jewish that like from Beverly Hills. Yeah, failed artists, bro,
but a good motivator and very like from Beverly Hills,

(06:45):
pragmatic and very you know how you say it when
people talk, people listen.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, yes, definitely, definitely idea that word is. Yeah, I
think that's the definition of that word.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Like you've had a studian problem. You know, he would
have never made it, bro, Like he could never be
a speech You don't have no motivated people with those speeches.
Right then to have a little mustache, Where did that
come from?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
That's the thing I want to know is that did
he invent that and then kill it? Maybe because Charlie
Chaplin had that mustache before, but during the same time too.
I think maybe back then in Germany there were a
lot of strong men in the circuses that had that mustache.
So he figured out a little mustache and people think

(07:33):
I'm strong even though I'm five foot two. Do you
do you? So, who do you blame for someone like Hitler? Like,
do you blame the kids who made him feel ostracized?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Who?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Like? I mean, because obviously there was I'm not like
Jesus Christ. This is such a hard subject to approach.
I guess, like do you? Because obviously Hitler had skills
in talking to people, o rating skills. He had ways
of uniting people socially, like do you? Is there part

(08:07):
to blame? Like this is such a fun like this.
Are the people who made fun of him part to blame?

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Are they? Like?

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Are the people who made Hitler also part to blame?

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Are?

Speaker 1 (08:17):
I think the people that arrested him the first time
was trying to start took over Germany. It should have
hung him that day, and that kept him alive, and
then he had a chance to be in prison to
ride to ride on mine coff.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Okay, is that where that came from?

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Because he did that little Doug time have the whole
whole bit about it. The bra though whatever, I know that.
I don't know what they're called, but the German Bra
where yeah, he hit little already promoting and talking in
the streets. He had a big following, but then he
got in over his head. They decided to take over
German that day, but they got arrested someone to do
were murdered and they put that for in prison and

(08:53):
that's when he wrote, minecaft right there. We should have
been thrown and you should have been hung that day,
you know, wasn't.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
But what was his crime for being in there?

Speaker 1 (09:04):
For for exciting that that very cool or that January
safety band? Whatever he did?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Oh ship he done the same thing he did, so okay,
I have nothing.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, they were They started off with a beer at
a beer hall, the beer hall, bro whatever, Oh.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
That's what that the brew hall? What was it called
the beer hall?

Speaker 1 (09:27):
They there's beer hall, yeah, beer hall boats. Yes, these
down have a funny, great bit about that the whole
he makes it all fine, that's right. You got these
drug assholes over here. Yeah, there it is. So they
were taken down by the German army.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
So he was he already had like by then, that's
the thing, is like, you have a power to do this.
But that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
They have enough people. So what happened was we got arrested.
He wrote, Mike count in prison all right for dog Castro,
same thing, does the same exact thing. He gets arrested,
They let him live, and he writes he writes another
book to promote and get everybody from Cuba to revote

(10:12):
against the government.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yes, but yeah, that's true. He did and he got arrested.
I know a little bit about this. That was because
he was like a lawyer.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
That that that that that when he tried to take
over the country the first time and he got arrested
with Doug Castro. I don't know what they called, but
for example, that revolte is called they became rebels after that.
After the revolte, just say they attacked June fourteen, they

(10:46):
became the June fourteen rebellion, just kind of just like
the Irish one.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, that's that's the true. But but the thing is
is like with me, you know, like with Castro, Cashrow,
to me, it was a it was a good cause
because he was trying to get rich people out of
his country. He was starting a rebellion for his people.
And then I think where cash Show went wrong is

(11:14):
that he was like I like being in charge.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
You know what's crazy.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
So I'm just gonna say that we're in a constant
state of revolution.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Now. Jay Cruz has has changed his his narrative, you know,
kind of like he has like a fake he made
up like a fake not really stolen valor, but a
fake valor because his father fled Cuba when Baptista was

(11:42):
took over. Batista kick Bastiita, kicked out of the kicked
out of the kicked all the landowners out. And he
was the first president to hire black people as police officers,
like Batista Batista. Bro was the first before that, but black, black,

(12:03):
colored people did not have position higher positions. But Thista
was a dark ass fucking Latino like me. Maybe a
little darker, but he was like me or Jeorge Perez
that color, Okay, So he wasn't.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
A white Spaniard. He wasn't like Liken Man.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
It was dark. It was dark, Bro. He was darker
than Fidel, darker than Chair. And look at how you
look a gangster.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Bro, that's a Hispanic.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
And that who fought. He fought to get to kick
Spain out of Fidel out of Cuba back in the days. Bro.
He he ain't no, he ain't no fucking spring chicken.
He fought to kick Spain out. He fought a lot
of wars, and then that was elected president Bro and
became basically like a dictator. But he he fucking let

(12:52):
the mob. That's him there and the Godfather. Oh that's
really yeah, really big one. The actor, but it's him
in the movie h Batista. So he lets all the
he legs next all that mob ship that was going
down in Cuba when the casinos. No one even knew

(13:13):
about that. Bro. It was that Battista he was. He
was like in he was like playing ball with America.
Oh yeah, I may want to come in here. There's
someone else that's fine. Whatever. So everybody was all right,
but the poor people on the cover, like there was
no middle class basically, and they were like they were
not opening up they were making money, but they were

(13:36):
not opening up hospitals, you know, or they were they
were not making it. They were not opening up schools,
you know, but they were arresting people and they were
keeping them poor people out of the casinos. Wow, you
saw that one in the in the there and then
his family was rich. Bro. So when we're getting back

(13:58):
to tich Cruz, Jack Cruz has this narrative that he
fled Cuba, but he fled doing but everybody thinks that
he left during for del Castro. That's a big lie.
He left doing Battista. Bro.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
He left during the Bautista days.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
So he was he was living large, right, He was
living large before Baptista came in, right, and then sort
of Ricky recorder Ricky Ricardo left when Battista came in.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yes, I do know that. So here's the thing is,
I didn't so so Bautista was a good dude then
in the way that he was getting rid of like
all the elites that were trying to take over his country.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, he got it of everybody.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
I mean at the time says the thing is like
like I want to stress good dude when I say
good dude, because sometimes you know, it's like I believe,
you know, like a lot of these people who are
leaders even to this day start out with good intentions
and then you get to a certain point of power
where we all obviously there's that whole like, uh, what

(14:56):
is it? Absolute power corrupts absolutely, Yeah, So I think
that's part of it. I think there's some people who
get in with not good intentions at all. But like
in my mind, I always thought like, uh, Castro came
in with good intentions, Like his thing was, I want
to save the people. I want to be a rebel,
I want to like you know, and then he gained

(15:17):
power and was like, well, I'm just gonna be a
piece of shit now, you know, or maybe he's not.
Maybe we're just thinking he's a piece of shit because
that's what we're the Probaganda was right. That's the thing
too that I'm starting to understand, dude. As much as again,
we like to say at the beginning of every episode,
this is not for your book report, this is not
for your school. Don't fucking listen to what we say.

(15:37):
I learned so much from this fucking podcast to the
point of where I'm like, holy fuck, history's repeating itself
or history has repeated itself, or what we're about to
talk about today that we live through history and I
don't know about you, but I didn't even fucking recognize it,
you know. And there's all these things, but you learn
about things that happened and you compare them to today

(16:00):
and they're the same thing. That's the thing, bro, is like,
we're not I feel like what we're going through in
this society right now, the so called what is happening
isn't fucking new. It's none of this is new.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
It's new to people that are like kids, like who
are millennials generations d because they're watching it play out live. Sure,
we didn't but we have to go to a paper
read it.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Right.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
But when you sit here, because I hear people on
both sides, left and right, go, this is the worst
that's ever been.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
This.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Can you believe what's happening right now? The division in
this country, it's the worst that's ever been.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
A person like that is being fed that algorithm all
day long. Bro, Like that person know how to put
their phone down and go take a deep breath on you.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
What the fuck, dude, there's the whole sixty sixty nine.
This country was super divide.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
You make it. They make it sound like every day
you walk, it's like that video of this is America.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yes, yes, yes, this is the other thing too. It's
like like you know, like, uh, Germany is a great
country right now, it's a prosperous country. It's doing well,
and at one point it had threatened the entire sovereignty
of the world. Okay, so we sit here, we go

(17:23):
what could happen next to Germany?

Speaker 1 (17:26):
When I when I was thinking about Germany, Man, when
I was like when I was in Amsterdam and the
first time I went there, Okay, I saw these these things, right,
and I know they were But then the second time
I went and I started I ate nearby and started
walking around, and it's a whole Jewish memorial bra and

(17:48):
it's in like brass, all the names and I look around, okay,
and then this is a Jewish neighborhood. Was a Jewish neighborhood.
But when when Germany came in, they came into Amster
that to Holland the Netherlands, and they bum we did the.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Last one, but go ahead, No, we talked a little
bit about them.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
The ship out of Rotterdam, yes, because they wanted the harbor,
the port they were either to get boats in into
Europe through so and after that they just grabbed all
the juice bro and it took them out. And then
after World War two killed But after World War two
they were like maths and in America since the war

(18:31):
was so far away from us that we're lucky that
we don't feel like we feel prices going up, you know,
and there are people they'll tell you, like, you know,
what's crazy man? During World War two when now they
were like there was a shortage of content. All the

(18:52):
other commodities like metal, brass, copper, steel, clothing, because they
needed to make a lot of they needed like people
to now they needed clothing to make more army suits
to send people out there gonna die. So yeah, so
so the that's why it would piss off white people

(19:15):
back then to see black people and Mexicans wear a
ship load of clothing during those times.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Oh, is that what it was?

Speaker 1 (19:25):
It was that was a big fight about those Zusu
riots at a time where you look at white people
normal America and those pictures the food are wearing just
khaki's brow and a white T shirt, a hat, not
a coat, the hat. But then you get these fucking
black dudes from Chicago, bro wearing fucking suits bro like

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zoot suits. It was a long chain a big fucking hat.
And the narrative was there were antire war anti America
because they were not supporting like the things. That was
a big That's why those Zutsu said, fuck are these fools.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
That's why the fucking sailors came in and fucked them up.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, that was like that was their response to what
they were I'm gonna just wear a shitload of clothes again.
That was the way she kinda will protest the war
and protest like the treatment the racism in America doesn't
say like, what do you what.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Do you want from these people like to say because
I love We got a comment two weeks ago where
someone was like, Butch hates America, and I was like,
and I never ever go to the bad comments about me,
like I usually just ignore them. This time I was like, hey, dude,

(20:41):
like I love America. My god, my grandfather fought for
my dad fought for at Vietnam, like I love this country.
But I do gotta understand, I gotta sympathize with with
people of color in this country, brown or black at
those times. Maybe not so much this time in our
lives because I don't feel more regionalized or at least
as much as my grandparents did. I don't know if

(21:05):
I sympathize with these people, like yeah, fuck you, dude.
You treat us like shit and you're gonna send us
to go to this war, which is a worthy war.
I'm not saying it's not, but it's not like Mexicans
are gonna get treated like white dudes in in in
the military and World War two times, you know. And
that's the thing is like, yeah, yeah, fuck you, dude,
I'm gonna wear my fucking ZOOSU go suck a dick.

(21:27):
You know, I'm down with it. Sorry, I still love
America though. Don't forget.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
That's crazy how they didn't know that. But when I
was reading that the other day, it was the they
were mad at because there were so much That is.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
So fucking stupid, brocause it was a stupid reason.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
But there was like a shortage of a clock of
clothing in America at the time because they needed man
to make bullets and make tang.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
That's the other thing is that we're feeding the machine
to go get our kids killed. This is what the
Vietnam War was about. This is why we try to
stop ship now. This is why we have technology. Nobody
wants their kids to die.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
When I was in in Boston shoesteads, I went to
this town where where that fucking the Fighter was filmed.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
That oh fucking the South Uns what.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
L but South South body? And I was talking to
an old Boston Irish guy. Bro. You know, they'll just
give you a history of the fucking Boston for no reason.
He goes, he goes. He was all drunk.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
I was.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Mom anyway. He was saying that his mother and his
mother and other women in the town. Used to work
at the shoe factory right here, bro, And as you know,
the war ended in Vietnam. Not two years later, that
fucking company went to Vietnam to do it for less.
Ye did we lose the war? Right?

Speaker 2 (22:56):
That's the thing, dude, is that again? You know we
sit here.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, they send it to South Korea, not North Korea? Right,
but there are no no South North's only one.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Bon I don't think at that time there was, And
it didn't matter to us, that's for sure. Yeah, we
didn't notice that that was happening here, I guess, you know.
But it is funny to me. It's like you're mad
at all these people taking your jobs. Who gave those
fucking jobs away? I know I wasn't gave those jobs
to those people. It wasn't me, It wasn't Mexican people.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Did you go to media to that town and I
don't know if it's Philadelphia or somewhere where Kodak will started.
Look you look at where where Kodak will started. Ko
d a K. That's a Kodak moment, remem Yeah, totally, yeah, totally.
I mean nobody say Kodak moment. They're one thing like

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you're crazy.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Huh right, exactly, kids are gonna that's what people are
gonna remember. Huh.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yes, we were in Rochester. Look up, look up a
millionaire role in Rochester. I checked this out. Bro. Kodak
was so big back then in Rochester that other executives
were given mansions bro Man and fucking Rochester. Bro and

(24:17):
theyre all they were all lined up, Bro. They all
live together, they will drive together. Called yeah, Bro, it's
all ain't it's not nice looking at more. Some of
them are hospitals now. But but so the company is
gone right, the company is gone right right wrong. You
know who gives you a parking ticket? They're gone. They

(24:40):
don't make photos, but they're still they're still alive as this.
You know who when you when you get a ticket,
a parking ticket, you know who prints it out that
paper as that's heat printed paper as Kodak. Kodak has
a thing where they fucking they give all the parking ticket.
Look it up, dude. So when I was in Rochester,

(25:02):
still exists as a target parking meter right, other things
as well, but nono the actual cameras.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
But it doesn't make film. It does make the it
makes the instant film again.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Though, yeah, so so now then wow so now then Rochester.
I was talking to the club owner. He goes more
people how the town went down when the Koda closed,
And I told him, Bro, they were there making parking
tickets in La Bastards Basters the way he fuckings left, Bro,
And then they could have been doing that in their

(25:39):
town and making money.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Go back to Rochester.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Rochester, by the way, for Rod chased a fucking personature
in Rochester, I.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Think like chased one down.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, he didn't catch up to on that he fell.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Good for him, No, good for you.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
A black lady talking to the on the phone and
his crackhead runs up and snatches him from her. Okay,
and then you chasing that food, You start chasing that food,
and then another food starts chasing them, and then like Rod,
you say, you could hear the husband on the phone
now on the phone telling the guy, tell my boy

(26:20):
to just give you ten dollars. Please, tell my wife
give you ten dollars. Please. You're a crackhead, Bro, You're
gonna get a ten dollars. Stop running, give him ten bucks, man,
let's just stop running.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Just give me, just give me the purse back, keep
the money.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
We took a cop that there was a person. A
guy goes, okay, where do you go? Oh there? All right?
What the opposite? Wait for nothing? It was it was
the hoy Hood. There was a guy and you've seen
this scam. He was about to give people free phones

(27:01):
and they just put down their social Security number.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, dude, they do that in the front of the
courthouse here in La.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
I want to scam.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Don't give them your fucking social.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Bro, you're giving a socialcurity number for a phone. You're
gonna use that to set up to immigrants to get jobs.
He's gonna open up probably fake cards.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I think those phones are legit in the way that
they work. They work and everything right, but you're still
giving away your life. You would ask, motherfucker. Because I'm
sorry to all the guys out there selling phones, but
these aren't fucking AT and T wireless representatives. These are
guys who probably were home. God bless them for having
a job. But I'm not giving you my fucking social security.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
That if I'm walking and I have a notepad so
that these I'm poor.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, here on your way to court, bro.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I'm riding. I'm in Rochester. I'm writing down whatever that
some idea my notepad. Yeah, hey man, you need a phone. Ah,
I can get you a phone right now. Man, just
go around the corner, man on that door, on the
door there. I feel like if you can't read, or
if you can't read, a write of it for you

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and it goes bro he s even the pet of paper.
You think I'm joining Teddies here? Yeah. Man, So getting
back to this week's episode of East Berlin and the
ramifications of when the WAH went down and a short

(28:33):
story of what was really going down before the war
went down. So I was there, man, my hotel room,
I was right there. I'm staying in East Berlin, and
I saw most most of East Berlin. I walked around, bro.
I saw a lot of crazy ship. I think I
was like not too far from Checkpoint Charlie and Separate Hills.

(28:55):
Concert wasn't like the West Berlin side in a castle
where they kept the last Nazi prisoner there the orchestrator
of the of the final decision. So this is what
I read briefly bro from you know that they have
signs on the wall and they tell you what happened here. Yeah,
And This is one of the things I read that

(29:17):
there were these there was the I don't know they
were like Middle Eastern people or from Kandastad, but they're
like Lebanese type of people that were living in East
Berlin at the time. They started selling chips of the
war bro and they started right away grabbing pieces of
the wall. I saw, and they started slanging a little.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Baggies as people are partying behind him, and I did.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
I saw that the war went up in nineteen sixty three,
sixty one sixty one. At first people could get people
from West Berlin from East West Berlin only can go
in and out of West Berlin. I didn't know that
it was just West Berlin. So like first of all
World War two, right, and the Soviet nations.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
So what I didn't know is that so I knew
that that that the east was taken by the Russians,
and then the west was taken by France, the United Kingdom,
London and America.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
And it was split in half, but still Germany.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Right, I thought that Berlin was on the border of
West Berlin and East Berlin. It wasn't. It was fucking
like two hundred miles inland. So you had another city
that was divided into four parts.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
That we're all staying. That's not where the border or
the entrance or nothing. Is just a piece of the
wall that they left behind.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Right, But you were by checkpoint Charlie, right.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, Like it was like maybe like five miles away. Yeah,
so that's the death that's right now over that bridge
some bridge. Yeah that was there now.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Ah, okay, because I'm just now familiar with it from
everything that I've been reading and watching, you know, just
so everybody knows when Flipe, when me and Felippe take
off to go do this, he takes off and go
and works. He has a whole life. I locked myself
in my room throughout the day and study all this stuff.

(31:09):
So Checkpoint Charlie was the centerpiece of this whole wall. Right,
you have the wall and then I can't remember the
bridge the name of the bridge that you were talking about,
but that's checkpoint Alpha.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, so you have checkpoint Alpha. Another checkpoint which is
Bravo checkpoint Charlie.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Check a video bro where I was, you could play it, Okay,
Checkpoint Charlie is.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
The middle, is the centerpiece. This is on Supposedly, if
I can't if I can't recall, it's on Baron Strauser
Boulevard or Baron Strauser Street. Uh, that's the monument that's
still there. But what had happened as is that East.
So so after World War Two we split up West

(31:58):
Germany in East Germany, and then we also split up
the capitol of Berlin. And so you have West Berlin
where you have people that are living under the new
freedoms that America had won, and the UK and one,
and then you have the East which was taken by
the Russians. What we're forgetting is that the Russians were
fucking you know, I think we forget this all the
time Russians were part of the coalition forces fighting the Germans, right, well,

(32:23):
the Russians were fucked over hardcore by the Germans. So
the first few years of this of this takeover, this
is one of the things that I've learned is that
the Russians were raping every woman in German that they could,
every German woman, so they were they went and fucked
everybody up, so nobody wanted to live in East Germany.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Also met they were like in France, any woman that
was like stumpathized to a Nazi, or had a baby
from a Nazi, or made out of a Nazi, or
fed a Nazi or a Nazi stay in the house
by these are all like this woman. They had no choice,
no choice. These man you know, they just let it
happened too. They should cut their heads off, they should

(33:05):
the mention the men be balling in their heads too
for not doing nothing. And then it happened. So they
were raping each and beating them up.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah, hardcore. Five.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
We talked about this bro that how many rapes happened
to her world War two, just on our side.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Just on our side, just on our side, but on
our side the Russians at the end of the war,
because we were like, hey, you could do whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
They were not Stalin.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
They were not no, not at all. And so they
had a party with the Germans before they settled them.
And then when they settled them, they started settling them
under their communist regime started by Stallin or that was
like not started, but like being run by Stallin.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I never thought about that through right now, that when
World War two was over, the Soviet Unit took over
every country that Nazi ran over, Yes, like Poland. You
thought you're gonna be free after World War Two. Nah,
you're not there to punish you for letting them take
the Jews.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Soviets did not give up anything Poland for like, I
don't know, another twenty years.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Poland was by itself living happily before World War two. Yeah,
all these countries were Slovakia to Siberia, all.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Those countries that were like ended up what we call
them Eastern Bloc, but under Soviet regime. They were all
communists at this time. So now you've got a place
that's you have Czechoslovakia, Poland, you have East Germany. I
can't remember the other Albania, all these countries that are
now becoming commons.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
About Belgium, I can't remember France.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
No, I think Belgium went to the western side. The
thing is, though, is that these are new These are
people in their new communist regimes. Also, this is Stalin
ESQ communism. This isn't Putin communism or yeah, Gorbachev communism,
which we're gonna talk about later. This is like, there

(35:11):
are people who really want to live like this. There
are people who are like, I love living like this.
And then but then there's also a large group of
people that are like, fuck this, I don't want to
live like this. But you got to remember, this whole
country is leaving a communist regime, and so they're being
split into two parts, and they're not doing it voluntarily.

(35:34):
And so after the East government starts to set up regime,
I want to remind everybody the Russians did not put
the wall up. It was not the Russians. It was
actually Walter Ubrich Aubrick who was the chancellor of East Germany,
and he was very adamant about keeping it communists. And

(35:57):
what started to happen was is that in the first
twenty years you had almost two million people flee East
Germany and this guy, I got to keep these fucking
people in. How do I keep these people in? And
it started out with like fences and you used to
have a pass. You could have a pass. I want
to go see my family. My girlfriend lives here in

(36:19):
West Germany. Can I go see her? Yeah, no problem.
There was a guy in one of these stories that
I read that had a house in West Germany and
East Germany and he was he was had it. The
West one was for his girlfriend. He went to go
like be with her for a day and then when
the wall went up. When the wall went up, he
got stuck on the west side. So the wall came

(36:42):
up as as a means of keeping the people in
because they didn't want Like, you know, here's the thing
with communism. It's an all of us thing, you know,
whether you like it or not. Man Like, if you're
a communist, part of the problem is that if people
who don't want to take part in the project are
are hurting the project, that would be me, bro, that

(37:04):
would be me as well. But if I'm a communist,
I'm like, you can't fucking leave because I need you
to work. I need you to make money here, you know.
And the thing is with communism at this time, and
this is one of the things that I was watching
when these people were being interviewed, because that's the thing, dude,
is that these people are still alive to this day,
that that experience a lot of these people that experienced
this part of history are still alive. And I was

(37:27):
watching this one lady that was like, I didn't want
to be westernized. I wanted to fucking I had a job,
and when I didn't like my job, I would just
write to my government and say hey, I don't like
my job. I want to try something else, And within
a couple of months I would get a new job
and a new training on something. But I always had money.
I always everybody had a place to live.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
You know, and so like, uh, you know why they
had a place to live. Some of these people had
a place to live because the factory that they worked
in a lot that they also have housing for these people, right, right,
So you're getting housing and you're getting fed, but your
wages are small because in the end they add all
that up.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yes, well you don't get really wages because you get rations. Yeah,
you get it like you get a check. You get
this thing that says, here's how much points you have
for the week. And then you go to the store
with your points and you get your kids something, and
here are enough points you could probably get a car.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
But everything, well, it takes seventeen years to wait for
a car in East Berlin.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
It's crazy, bro. And again, I'm not advocating for communism,
kind of sounds like I am. I'm just speaking on
behalf of these people who felt like, well I had
security and then when we got taken over, I didn't
have a job, anymore, and my house became more expensive
than I can afford it. And like because there's a
blowback to this, there's a blowback.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
To also Man during communism in East Berlin, it was
not just white looking German. A lot of immigrants living
there from well that's what also from Cuba there.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
That's what's fun.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
And anywhere where there was anywhere the Soviet Union was,
I'm doing trades with, there were immigrants.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
What's up is I watched this one. There's a there's
there's a a movie called the Behind the Wall and
it's on It's on. Uh, it's a really good documentary.
It's the I look whenever we do something like this,
I look up the best two books for the subject
that I could read in a week, and then I

(39:34):
and then I look up the best documentary, and then
I start from there and then I look up like
the highest numbered watched on YouTube like videos about it.
So one I watched this is what in particular is
called behind the Wall, and and it does a very
good job of showing both sides and and what would
what had happened afterwards, and how it was before and how.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
It was during One thing, I read one of those
signs was that as soon as the walk came down,
every everybody that was an activist in East Berlin that
was against the war against communism, who had political art
and political statements, those people became like everything they ever

(40:21):
did became like over obsolete, Like yeah, they were done
that nobody was nobody cared about their activism anymore because
the wall was done and yeah, nobody nobody, they can't do.
And also their art were very outdated compared to the
modern art that was going on now because they were

(40:42):
behind the wall, and some of those factories, a lot
of those factories that those people worked on in East Berlin,
they couldn't like keep them open anymore because they were
they were not like following air control and pollution, yes,
relation clean water that they were. The East was just

(41:05):
dumping toxic waste everywhere. Put it that way. They didn't
care about some mug No, they were just like they
were just drilling. There was just like there were no
sanctions waft.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
There's no like, hey man, are you wearing the right shoes?
And in the West, you know, as because they're developing
and they're developing along with us as as Americans, so
you gotta think like, how you know, one of the
great things about America, one of the if you want,
the most amazing thing to me about America was how
quickly we evolved in this country, how quickly we made

(41:41):
things happen after World War Two, especially.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Even though the South still trying to catch up, because well.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
That's because some people are stupid in this country. I'm
not going to say names, but you Yeah, so things
are moving quickly, right world War two. Money comes comes in,
production comes in. Dude, we praying we bring all the
smart Germans from the Nazis over to like tell us
about medicine. And that's the other thing, man is I
think it was you who pointed this album were in

(42:10):
Albuquerque having this conversation. Yeah, that like a lot of
our medicine, like like miracles that we have in medicine
there are The reason why Western medicine is so great
is because the Germans that were experienced we're testing it
on humans, like we we we absolve them of their guilt.

(42:30):
We brought them over undercover, like there's a old documentary
about this, and then we fucking got their ingenuity and
we used it. But going back to West Berlin and
West Germany, they're moving as fast as we are because
they're us at this time. It's the same thing with Japan.
It's why Japan is so like uh westernises, because when

(42:51):
we bomb a place and fuck it up, we come,
we go over and we hug it and we go
you know what, We're gonna love you though, We're gonna
give you what. We're gonna give you our version of
what we have. So you have West Germany moving fast,
and then you have East Germany sitting there not knowing
that how fast it's moving, hearing bits and you know,
because they couldn't listen to the radio, they couldn't listen

(43:11):
to our TV programs like they can get them. And
if you got caught like the Stazi, which is the
police that like the rats everywhere, bro, Yeah, the rats everywhere, bro.
Like That's the thing is that the Stazi was the
secret police of the East serving government and they were
basically the secret service. The FBI and the National Intelligence

(43:32):
Agency all rolled into one group and they watched you
and they had you embedded. Bro. You could be driving
a truck with someone and you both are hauling cowshit
and the guy that's shoveling the shit is a STAZI member,
you know, and so like that's just to make sure
that nobody fucked up and got away with anything or
talk shit or talk shit, dude, you can't talk shit.

(43:55):
You cannot no descent. There's no descent in the government
like this, and especially where they're at because they're put.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Like so, there's no journalism over there, there's no reporters.
And if you're asking, if you're asking styling a question,
it's more it's more praise, like stylin you're doing a great, great,
great job, great great job. Then you ask my question,
like how's the weather today? Oh, that's a beautiful question.

(44:25):
The weather is nice, right, right, Well, that's the thing.
But if you're trying to ask, you know, people are starving, starling.
You know, people are starving right now, man, and people
are trying to get get out of here. How dare
you ask a dirty question like that?

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Right?

Speaker 1 (44:41):
How dare you ask a dirty question like that? You
must work for a smaller government network. Huh, okay, man,
we're gonna talk to you. I'm gonna give you a
full interview at the end of the series. Put down
the cameras. I'm just saying, that's how that's how I
That's how it was. That's how it was, and I'm

(45:02):
not describing anybody to anybody, but that's the way startium.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Well, okay, and that's the thing I wanted to say.
When you wonder, well, how did it get to this point?
And that's how you get to this point. You get
rid of your dissenters first, and how you get rid
of your dissenters is you don't go, Hey, all these
guys there against me, get them out of here, get them,
pick them up, and get them the fuck out of here,
because then you look like a tyrant. But if you go,
but if you in bed two or three guys, that go, hey,

(45:28):
Governor Felipe, yes, sir, you did such a good job
with the aqueduct system. We're all hoping that your new
feeding the people program is going to succeed just as great.
And even if it doesn't, it's still gonna feed everybody.
But how do you think, how well do you think
it will be? And that's the way the question was, right,

(45:50):
But if they go, so we heard that it didn't
that it didn't work, that that that that system didn't
work out. This one might not work out either. How
do you feel about that? How dare you ask that
question to me? How dare see you're against what we're
trying to do here, you're against the productivity of us.
Get out of here, And I don't want that guy

(46:12):
asking me anymore.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Did you see that video?

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Bro? Like?

Speaker 1 (46:16):
How how putine?

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Like?

Speaker 1 (46:19):
There was a cave into a business deal bro that
was being being held done and he showed up with
your regular clothes. And as soon as that guy made
that deal, he said, give me the pen, and he
kept a pen and then he left and then he
was telling what was that about? It was, oh, because

(46:40):
that guy had made a deal before that didn't work
out somebody else and then and then like but it
didn't work out because Putin didn't. They didn't make it
work out. But the time he's letting him.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Know, that was the symbol like this time it's gonna
work for you.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
No, just letting you know that. Mother, you might signed
for this businessment, but I keep in the pants, so ah,
I own it, I control it.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I control everything.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
And that's the way that that works, right, that's the
way that that society works. And we know that, but
we look at we look at these systems, you know,
you go again, you go back. And this is why
I said at the beginning of the show. History repeats itself.
It repeats itself, It repeats it.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Yes, he was seing that baby baby boy, Yes we're
a baby boy and the homie, or just did you
finish doing something crazy and then fucking being rams because
then all fucked up. Oh y'all doing this little slanging
and ship. Yes, poppy motherfuckers, y'all watching this for the

(47:47):
first time, but for me, all this ship it is
a rerun right right right.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
That's the thing, man, It's like again, I'm reading this,
I'm reading about this, and I'm watching you know, and
again there's we don't live in a time where where
it's exactly like that. I'm just pointing out that things
aren't new when we go these people are taking our
jobs or these these people are doing this, or this
is what's happening in our society right now, and it's
like it's not it's actually a more toned down version

(48:19):
of it, you know, because you got you got these people.
I wonder how it feels, man, to live like shit
and look over and on the other side, like you
could see the other side living nice and you could
have been that had you been born over there, had
your house been one hundred more yards over Like I

(48:40):
think about that all the time. And and and this
is a really good example because you had a group
of people, a community of people that were living together
as one, and then this war happens, and you know, Hitler,
the Germans, whatever, but you know, not every German person
wanted that to happen. So like this, this city gets different.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
People think that Hitler fucked up gerbrity. And then the
World War too, he was gone. Now man, he fought
of Germany forever, foreverever, that coach. You were never the
same after that, right, and he fu he separated two countries.
Then they came back. Then after when the when the
walk came, when the walk came down, and then the

(49:20):
Soviets became just us no longer in USSR. Right, little
Multiple started fighting, right, Bakia started fighting in Bosnia.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
I mean we're still I still think, you know, because
we have the Palestinian uh Israeli thing happening. That is
something that happened from World War two. This is like
we're still experiencing World War two stuff. We're still experiencing
Hitler's raw through.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
A Jewish guy that was murdered bro An, Israeli minister
that was murdered in nineteen ninety something on live TV. Yeah,
just kind of elected and he was more of I
can't deal with his name. But they made a movie
about him and everything I was reading about him, and
he became he was a Jewish guy. He got killed

(50:10):
by another Jewish person from a more conservative, more conservative
party of the of Israel. But this guy was more
like left left, but he was was gonna be the
new guy, right right uh? And then the new guy,
the one who became a replacement, he ended up losing

(50:34):
to Nahu. But the guy who murdered that guy, he
used to be under name. Now I read about this some.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
This it's so again, you know, governments and stuff like that,
you know, and and.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
I didn't even know that bro that that that guy
was murdered over there. It was sad Brian, this guy.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
You have the German Chancellor Ubrich who just sid who
decided to who decides to build a wall, and then
you have people in the first ten years, five ten
years of the wall being built trying to escape. Yeah,
can you show a visual of like the current wall,
like it's gonna be because there's a reason why the

(51:17):
wall had a shape that it did because people were
running their cars through the wall. And the reason the
way that this wall was built with like an L shape.
It has like an an L shape, and so that
when they would hit it with their car, they wouldn't
knock the Yeah, okay, you can kind of see it
in uh that that one right there. Dude, again, look

(51:43):
at this wall. Do you remember we were looking at
the walls at the border last week? Yeah, and you
were like, I want that one, and we're talking about
the one with the tube so you can alligator could
go through. See the one on the far leftop left
up there?

Speaker 1 (51:56):
That one?

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Okay, So you know those walls fell and they were
L shaped, right, Yeah, it was so that you couldn't
drive a car through it anymore.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
That was the new wall.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
But at first they were laying bricks over over barbed
wire and like shit like that, and then that wasn't working.
People were poking holes through the wall. And then the
more that people tried to escape, the more that it
became more strict, you know, And that's why they have
that's called the death strip. That's what they call it
in between. So you have the wall on one side

(52:28):
and then you have so the actual border for East
to West Germany is about maybe thirty yards in past
the wall that starts in East Germany, and you have
what's called the death Strip in the middle. And the
death Strip consisted of sand. First of all, because the
sand is the most kind of eeriest part is because

(52:50):
the soul. They couldn't trust the soldiers in the watch
towers to shoot the people passing through sometimes because they
were like, Oh, that could be my fucking neighbor, it
could be my friend. You got to remember, these people
lived together before all of this happened. And so if
I was your commander and I came in and I
saw footprints down there, and I go, what happened to

(53:12):
that guy? Then I'm now you're in trouble. So that's
what the sand was for, was to make sure that
they got shot each side or no on And this
is another eerie thing, is that all the apparatuses. So
the reason for the regimes putting up the wall was
to keep fascist out. We want to keep fascist out
of East Germany. But when you look at the wall,

(53:34):
all the apparatuses to hurt people were facing the East
German side. They had these things called SM seventies that
they had to end up taking down. And the SM
seventy was this huge It looked like an end of
a scatter gun sticking out of the ground, and it
had darts, it had steel blocks in it, and it
had a pneumatic pressure valve in it like air. So

(53:57):
if you stepped on a plate, this thing would just
ship fire like cubes like that big metal at you,
you know, and it'll obliterate you. And the Germans forever
were the East Germans were like, we don't have that.
What the fuck are you talking about. That's not a
real thing. And then there's this one guy, Schreiber that
jumped the fence got one and then gave it to

(54:17):
the government, and then then they ended up taking it down,
but it was considered in humane. But they had all
these apparatuses. And then if you hopped over the fence,
let's say you made it over the first fence, they
had a spike strip along the floor like a bed
of nails, so that if you stepped on it, you
fuck your feet up. And if you made it past that,
you had these huge pieces of barbed wire blocks that

(54:38):
were called tank stoppers. You had to get over that.
Then if you got over that, you had to get
past the dogs, and then you had the guys in
the middle with guns and then so it was like
impossible at some point to get over the wall. And
that was just the wall inside of East Germany. There's
also the blue wall, which was the it was the
Caspian Sea.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Caspianc time, but yeah, so you had that, you had
that barrier as well, and then people would try to
swim across that, and then there's so there's there's like
a story of this lady who made it all the
way across to the west side, but the East Germans
came and got her on a boat and picked her
up right before she made it to the west side
and then brought her back. You have stories of guys

(55:22):
that had tried to make it over that were shot.
There's one story about this one guy who makes it
over and he gets shot as he's going over the fence,
the first fence, and he's in the he's on the
death trip and he's bleeding out and he's begging for
help and you can hear him in the building next
like you're in West Germany, you're in your apartment, you're
sipping your coffee, enjoying your fucking French bread from France,

(55:44):
and you hear this guy yelling for help, like for hours, hours, hours, bro,
And they didn't come get him for like maybe eight hours.
They didn't come in and get him until you I mean,
he was already dead by the time they got him,
but they just let him bleed out. And that shit
happened all the fucking time. The one story that I
loved the most was these two guys got out. They

(56:08):
these these these two guys ziplined out. They called up
their friend, they said, we're gonna meet at this one place.
They shot an arrow from one building to another with
the metal with the metal cord, and then they tighten
it and they ziplined from the top of one building
down to another building in West Germany, and they totally

(56:28):
got away with it. And they needed to go get
their brother. So they taught themselves how to fly those
little ultra light planes with the little engines on them,
and they fucking they just went over and over. They
crashed it a couple of times. They finally got it
down and they left one park flew over into East Germany,
landed in another park, rescued their brother, took off and

(56:51):
flew back. It's all film. This is all filmed on
a VHS cam quorder, and four months I think it
was four four to six months later the wall fell.
But uh yeah, you have all those stories of people
trying to escape.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
I think it was.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
One hundred and forty people died trying to attempt to
get over the wall in the twenty years that it
was up. Here's here's here's some real quick facts about
the wall. The wall was constructed August thirteen to nineteen
sixty one, dismantled starting November ninth, nineteen eighty nine. Stretch
approximately one hundred and fifty five kilometers ninety six miles

(57:30):
from West Berlin. It featured three hundred and two watchtowers,
twenty bunkers and uh uh and had at least one
hundred dogs patrolling. The amount of people they they estimated
did get over was around five thousand people.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Show that video of the wall.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
So the other thing is too, is that this all
was a big mistake at the end, right, Like, uh,
the the wall coming down was a huge mistake. Actually,
they did not want to unite with with West Germany. Right, Well,

(58:20):
that's the other thing, is like, so that speech by
Reagan that I learned was not popular at the time,
Like they didn't think that was you know, we look
back at it now because that's what caused Gorbachev to
back off and help would help bring down that wall.
But at the time there was a protest the day
before that had twice as many people protesting Ronald Reagan.

(58:45):
And then the next day that he makes that speech,
it doesn't get like a huge ovation because at this
time they don't think the wall's coming down. Nobody thinks
the wall is coming down. Gorbachev, though, is a new
is the new president of Russia, and Gorbachev is He's
kind of like, look, man, I love I love communism,

(59:09):
but it has to change. We can't force people to
stay communists. We can't, you know, we need to have reforms,
which is what he comes up with this term Perestroika.
I don't know if you've ever heard of or Stroika
and glasnost and those are Gorbachev's two programs for changing
communism throughout the Eastern Bloc and East Germany goes you

(59:35):
know what, that's cool fucking mister Gorbachev. Gorbachev even has
a radio show at night to help improve so he
could talk to other people in communism, like like actual citizens,
and he listens to their grievances and he talks about
how we could change this, and and so he wants
to change. And then the new chancellor who houses Albrick,

(01:00:01):
he comes in and he's kind of taken over and
he's the new guy, and he's like, fuck, no, we're
not fucking changing. I don't give a fuck what you say. Well,
then that's when like Gorbachev is like, well, then that's cool,
and you could be how you want to be. And
that's my whole thing is be how you want to be,
run your country the way you want. But if you're
not doing what we're doing, I'm not gonna help you.

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And so that's like kind of the first thing that happens.
Now you have like a few protests that happened. But
the other thing is like Czechoslovakia, Albania, all these other
countries start to go along with Gorbatrov's programs and they
open up their borders to each other so they could
start like having vacations, and then they open up their
borders to their neighboring countries like Poland and stuff like that.

(01:00:46):
So what what East Germans are starting to do is
they're like, hey, we're gonna go on vacation and Czechoslovakia.
And then there's this one situation in nineteen eighty seven,
eighty six, in October, there's they all like like all
of a sudden, all these East Germans show up for

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so called vacation and they're lined up at the Czechoslovakian border,
but there's two guards, and so they fucking just bum
rush the gate and the guards just let them go,
and then all these people leave, and then now you
have people showing up on West German embassy campuses waiting
to get to be made citizens of West Germany, which

(01:01:33):
West German at the time offered like that that to them,
but you have all that happening. I'm just trying to
get through this really quick because I know that this
is the boring part. But what ends up happening is
that East Germany says, we need reform, and what we're
gonna do in order to keep our people because now
they're trying to escape is we're gonna let you now

(01:01:54):
pass the border all East German people are gonna be
able to across the border. They're gonna be able to
like go freely. You just have to get a passport.
And they call it the travel law. They call it
the new travel law.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
They were just done everything. Huh yeah, yeah, they're keeping
check up everything. They want to know where your cousin is, right,
And that's what it was gonna be, was like at
the beginning of keeping check everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
So you're gonna be able to travel. Any East German
is gonna be able to travel. We're not gonna say
no anymore. And but we're gonna keep an eye on you,
and you got to like we're gonna have stasy with
you and stuff like that. So they give it to
this one guy, So Leipzig protest that was in October
of eighty nine, that's what I was talking about. But
they give it to this one guy, right, this one

(01:02:39):
guy is not in this meeting the whole fucking time.
And and he well, he comes out and they give
him the packet and they say, go to the press
and let him know this is what we're talking about.
So he goes to the press and he goes, all right,
so we're gonna start letting German people East German people
leave the country, and you know, and he's going through

(01:03:04):
his paperwork and when someone goes, when is this gonna happen?
This isn't supposed to happen for two weeks. He looks
down at his paper where he goes immediately and then
within hours, Bro, within hours, people start showing up at
the border. Now again at Checkpoint Charlie. At Checkpoint Charlie,
you have three officers guarding the gate because their bosses

(01:03:28):
are still in the meeting trying to figure out the
laws of how people are going to pass. But people
are standing now at the gate going, hey, we just
heard on the radio that we could go ahead and
pass however we want. And it gets so built up,
and this guy's trying to call his boss, Hey, they're
all here. There's fucking and at this point there's twenty
thousand people, there's thirty thousand. It gets bigger bigger, and

(01:03:50):
the guy goes, there's nothing I could do, There's nothing
I could do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
It comes down to this one captain this runs. They
have guns, guns versus and that's the thing is so
so this is what the one of the German, one
of the one of the chancellors of East Berlin says, like,
thank god that this guard just gave in and let
the people go by, because if he started shooting these people,

(01:04:17):
we would have a different we'd have a world war.
It would have turned into World War iree. From that
point on, and it was literally one the one guard
that was like, I can't get a hold of my bosses,
so you know what, everybody leave. Everybody could go, and
then it just opened up. And then because of the influx,
within five minutes, twenty thousand people crossed through Checkpoint Charlie

(01:04:40):
and and that started the flood of people coming in
to West Germany. And at that point the East could
not contain itself anymore. And then oom done gone, no
more wall, no more East Germany. Like it wasn't even
it wasn't even supposed to be like that. But because
of that one small decision, uh, you now no longer

(01:05:04):
have a country. That's how quickly it could go. That's
what's crazy, bro, is Like, that's how quickly your system
could your democracy system, your fucking your communist system, your
Marxist system, your socialistism, all of it could be gone
in a heartbeat, Like they wanted to maintain control of
East Germany. East Germany still would have been a country.

(01:05:26):
He had that guy uh not had fucking Schabowski, that
was his name. Chabowski's the guy that made the mistake
in the in the press conference. And if he had
not made that mistake, there still wouldn't have been in
East Germany. There would have been you know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
And it works.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
That guy fled because I didn't know this. Did you
know this? They ended up charging all the Stazzi members.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
They held tribunals for everyone, buddy, And they ended up
charging most of the officers that shot people, but they
gave them most of them pardons. But a lot of
like the Stasi leaders, the chancellor got away and left France,
but a lot of the heads of the state and
stuff ended up having to do like a year in prison,

(01:06:20):
uh for for for the atrocities that they committed. But
that's crazy to me, dude. It's like it was a
government that we authorized and now we're gonna hang you
guys for doing what you did, you know. But yeah,
it was.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Whatever to all the those people that were working in
like in government off of that Soviets, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
That's the other thing, man, is there's a lot of drink.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Those guys went back to where'd they go?

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
They didn't go anywhere they stayed and they because they
didn't have fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
That's the thing, though, is that was sad.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Is what is sad?

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
You had guys that were like I watched this one guy,
and I do feel bad. I kind of was like, oh, oh,
you didn't get to oppress people anymore. But he was like,
I was committed to my government. I was committed to
my cause. And then all of a sudden and one
day I don't have a job and I don't have
a viable skill, and then I'm also living in a
capitalist society where the more money you have, the better
off you are, and I don't have anything. And like

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he was like, I started drinking because I didn't know
what to do.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
But I'm not a drinker, so.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
I stopped drinking. But like, you know, and like, it's
sad because you have all these people who were because
most of the jobs were in government, they were state
owned jobs. So you have all these and then and
again you have factory workers that aren't as skilled as
the other factory workers back in the West.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
And then like a lot of the people that were
working in those factories there were nobody will hire them
and a capitalists. Well, bro, you're too old.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
You're in East Germany making shoes with a stamp and
fucking hammer. Well, West Germany's shoe shops now have a
fully automated system. Your job isn't needed anymore. And in fact,
the house you live in, guess what the price going
up in it as well, because it's no longer East Germany,
it's just Germany now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
But I had to work at the border. Yeah, there's
the McDonald's there now you can work there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Yeah, you could if you're lucky.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
That was the first thing that went up with a McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
That's insane. Did you get to see the walls and stuff?
Did you get to see did you go along the
death trip? Did you Did you get to see the
watch towers and stuff?

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Or I saw some of them? He who? Who? Was
the world to remain as it is? So they want
the world to remain at all at all?

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Is that the video you said to Yeah? Yeah, I
mean we could just play edit that end. That's interesting
because that's comed that was what communism was, right. It
was like, let's keep these people.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Yeah, that was the art that went up on that
wall afterwards, cand do that joke no more.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
I didn't mean the lab We just got to use that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Ozzy Osborne dies and he's Germans. So is he German?
I was born?

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Yeah, that is a German name.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
He's Irish.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
He's Irish. Sorry, guys born.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
You know legal over there to do the Hitler salute,
right Germany, naziis illegal also, you know it's illegal over
there too because they don't want no group like that
ever to take that religion is out loud in Germany.
One of Tom Cruise in scientology, really he can't bring

(01:09:35):
scientology into Germany. He legal because it's too much of
a cult and they don't want like influence like that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Yeah, because it fun shu up? How do you feel
about the German people? Did you like?

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
What did you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
What was your take on Germany?

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Man German people are like are not like American people
because they speak two languages. They speak automatically English and
in Germany do you speak English and speak Spanish? Somebody?

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Were you well received there? Were they really happy to
see you and meet you? Or was it were they rude?

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Bro I went to I wanted to do open mic.
I went to a comedy show there in a boat,
did the one in the Boat, and I went up
last Bro the murder Bro murdered. They want to come
back and do more shows. And marjuana legal. They're like legal,
it's super legal, right, super legal, Like you could smoke anywhere.
But there are no coffee shops yet.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Interesting, but there's dispensaries.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
I didn't see any where.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Do you buy weed then?

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Ah, so it's kind of underground type deal.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Oh, I mean you have a medical license, you'll get
it right away.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Isn't it weird though? Man, that this country was at
one point like they were. They were the annihilators of our.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Also Germans, the Nazis when they started like separating the
Jewish people and living them and were separating them. They
learned that from us by the way we treated black people.
I read, yes, the way they separated black people put
them in the hood. But they call them ghettos.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Well, that's why we get That's where we got the
term from ghetto was.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
From them because they started marginalizing these Jewish people. But
they learned that from us, the way marginalized Native Americans
and blacks that the Germans learned that from us. Wow,
and then they put it into the final.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Well, it's in their propaganda, like they because they're like
the way that we got the way in their propa. Guy,
I saw a poster that said the way the United
States got rid of the jazz artists or in like
the way that we marginalized the jazz artists.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Yeah, this is what we need.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
And it showed a picture of a black dude with
big lips playing a horn and it was like, this
is what we need to do to the to the Jews.
And then it showed like the glasses and the big nose,
and I didn't really understand that relation until right now.
I thought what the sign was saying was like, this
is their plague, this is our plague. But it was
basically saying what you just fucking said. That is fucking wild, bro.

(01:12:08):
That is I still love America that I swear to God.
It's just the thing is, you gotta hold yourself accountable.
You can't sit here and be like I love my kids.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
German holds himself accountable for their ultrocities, and so to Holland,
like when they stay on a tour, you know this
country was made also by the spice trade, also by
we're Yeah, we're the earlier countries to enslave people with
the Spaniards.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
But they don't not talk about they're not talking about that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
We don't talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
We don't want to talk about that. We we hit
and frank, we're good. We got weed. We're good. Like no, dude,
they talk about it, talk about it. Don't outlaw weird.
That's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Like when I was on a boat ride, who know
why I done? He became so rich? I said, yeah
to the slavery right exactly, man. And we don't not
hide from that here in this country.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
You don't hide from your own education of what you did. Again,
I love this fucking country, but you got you can't
like he's like raising your kid, you know who fucking
you know, shitty kids come from people who are like,
my baby never makes a mistake, my baby's never done
nothing wrong. That's the shitty people in this world. But
the people who are like you know what my mom
used to be like, I love Butch, but he's a

(01:13:23):
fucking idiot. Sometimes I love my son, but I know
what he's capable of doing, you know, And that's kind
of how I feel, bro. It's like I love this
fucking country.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Like Joe DIA's grandmother bro shut a picture of Jesus
Christ in her living room and John F. Kennedy, bro,
And every day she'll pass by Jesus go like this
and then look at Kenny. Will fuck you Kennedy? No way, cocksucker,
that's right, cocksucker.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
I know I need to do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
About you. Fucking Madskins. You got easy. You just fucking
across the border illegally, a fucking Cuban. Me and my uncle,
we got we got tun but I got you know.
One of the one of the things that I read,

(01:14:18):
one of the things that I read about this German
guy going from living in uh was a Communist Party,
Socialist Party, you know. And it's funny how people who
don't know, like when they when they talk about the
social the Socialist Party, the Communist Party, people say, like

(01:14:40):
like the hardcore ones, they say, all these people were
free ship, but then they were living in a country
like that. When you realize, when you lectually living in it,
you realize it ain't free. No, that's where that's when
you get it all wrong. You live in a socialist country,
not thing is free. If you're going to be a
homeless man, Fuck no, man, you can't. You're gonna work

(01:15:02):
three hours at least. Bro you cannot be a homeless man.
You cannot not work.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
That's the other thing is like, look, dude, the other
in a real communist country homeless, there's no homeless and
if you want to because like that lady was like
if I didn't like my job, I could get another one.
That's great. That was probably in that small environment that
she was in. But in real life, if you're living
in communist Russia, communist China right now, and you want

(01:15:29):
to fucking quit your job because you Stacy is making
your life fucking miserable today, Fuck no, you can't quit
your job. Fuck no, you don't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Rid no the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Maybe you're the problem. Get back to fucking work. Fucking Brenda,
stop bitching about Stacey.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
About the Stazi and these people like that was the cause.
I know that Russia has the KGB right or Bob's,
but the Germans is like they could look at a paper,
read read you a paper. I was watching this episode
of Fargo season three and they were like a German,
They're like a German guy questioning a guy, right, and

(01:16:07):
they're just showing us that the whole season is going
to be a mistaken identity a season. So they got
this guy right there, he goes, this guy goes, you say,
he is your your name is just your name is
Alex Deirdre and you were born in June seven, eighteen

(01:16:29):
forty eight, and you have a wife. Then he goes,
that guy go, I don't have a wife, and I
was not born in forty eight. That would make me
seventy years old. I'm forty right, So you're saying I'm wrong,
the party is wrong. Yeah, well they just drill him,

(01:16:50):
drill him, drew him. So he finally say, all right, motherfuckers,
I'm that guy. Yeah yeah, but they turned to get
him for a murdering his wife years ago, but this
was I've never had a wife. But what happened was
that he lives in the house now where I guess
this motherfucker used to live. But they never changed the paperwork.
But you're gonna tell that to a guy, a statsy guy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
That there's process, there's no due process investigation.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
It doesn't that guy, bro, It's how fucked up it
was that thatsy guy. He ate his lunch and his desk,
wrapped up the paper, cleaned his mouth, put everything away
under his desk, and then went back to work. Right.
He didn't leave his office to go to fucking McDonald's

(01:17:37):
chick chat with other officers. He just stood there like, Yeah,
I'm pretty sure that dude is stuckt in that office
all day long dealing with bullshit like this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Well that's why to them, it's no big deal. Just
to shove it along, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
And then I'm pretty I'm pretty sure it's a fund up.
That world. Is that world he's living in, that that
socialist party that his senior officer probably gave him a
bullshit paper just to see how he will react. Would
he stick to the paper work if he do anything?

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
Or not?

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Would you stick to the paperwork or you listen to
the asshole story right? Or you keep moving it along
and then when the line or not, once that guy
goes once, that guy goes no, it's it's you, motherfucker.
My superiors are not wrong. How could they be wrong?
Oh a fuck? The way to live? Huh, bro, there's process.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
There's here's another thing. Let's say you want to so
the stars you would go, like the government would go, Hey,
everybody could leave if you want. You just got to
apply to leave, and you got to give us a
good reason. Well, sure, you go to apply to leave.
You got kids that are in school, you want to
move to West Germany. Felipe fills out a report. Guess

(01:18:52):
what happens. He lands on my desk. I call Felipe's boss. Hey,
I'm just trying to figure out why Felipe wants to
leave our country? Can you figure that out? I call
his school, his kids school, Hey, could you tell me?
Why are you treating the kids bad? Because they want
to leave the country. And what he's really saying is

(01:19:12):
is fucking fuck with this trader now.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
So you go to work.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Now your boss knows you don't want to live in
this country anymore. You're a fucking trader. Your kids are
a trader, your wife's a trader. Bro your block finds
out at some point you're a trader. So even and
then and then now you're being watched by the Stazi.
And then now the Stagi is just waiting for any
little information to just put against you, to lock you
and your family up. That's how these people are.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
You know, according to Tony Montana and Scarface, he was
living they were living at that in Cuba already, right,
he goes, you gotta your watching every corner, somebody watching you. Yeah, yeah,
I thought Cuba was back then.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
And that's the thing man again, you know, it's like
fucking Cashro was just trying to free people, bro, but
then all of a sudden, what happened. You know, he
doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
He did something that the German would have probably did
under cover without telling us. They probably let a lot
of a lot of criminal East Berliners out at one
day Bro without telling us into Germany.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Well, they used to sell them to the West. That
was another thing that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
I'll take two for a dollar, so I'll take two
for two francs.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
So they did not make a lot of money. The
East Germans didn't have a lot of money. And one
of the ways that they made money was they would
sell prisoners and and and the only time the way
the West would buy you is if you had it
made an escape attempt or had several escape attempts, or
were radicalized Easterner and the going rate for a prisoner

(01:20:43):
was about one hundred, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
and the government would split it with your family. So
let's say Shelley gets picked up by the Stazi and
she's in prison, and we got to get Shelley out
of prison. So the East German government go to the
church and say, tell them you could get her out
for one hundred and fifty thousand, and then they'd go

(01:21:06):
to us and go, we can get Shelley out for
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and then the family
has to come up with half the money, and the
government has to come up with half the money. And
then they go back and they buy them, and they
would buy them all the time. They had a bus.
They had a train that specifically was went from one
prison to a release center in the West, and it
was a seven minute long ride, and you would and

(01:21:27):
the train would pull in and they would load it
up with all the Western with all the Eastern people
they didn't want. They'd give them certificates of release of
citizenship and they would say, you're a trader, don't fucking
come back. They'd hand it to him and then they'd
get on the train. And then then and they would
lock so on one one side of the train, they
had a door and they had a lock for it,

(01:21:49):
and then on the other side there was a lock
door that the western had a key to, and so
it would just go across and then the Westerners would
open up and let them out and be like, welcome here,
and then they yeah, you know. And that was the
thing is you'd left West Germany East Germany, they gave
you a place to live. If you didn't have one,
which most people did, they'd find you a job, and
then they gave you an allowance.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Damn fool bar. Yes. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
And the other thing is if you just went to visit,
like let's say you just went to visit for the day,
there was one hundred dollars waiting at the deutsch Marks
waiting for you at the German bank because they didn't
fuck with Eastern money at all. So you couldn't just
come over with your Eastern bucks and give them over
to exchange. But in order to entice Easterners to stay,

(01:22:34):
you could go to the bank and damn and get
a hundred bucks every day.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Bro, did you hear about the about the fifteen Polick
Polish men that were assaulting a German woman? She could
say nine nine nine sixth left nine menths no in

(01:23:01):
know that dude.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Sometimes sometimes I'm really listening, dude, so times I'm really like,
oh fuck, what happened?

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
It's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
In my mind of all, I was hoping we'd end
this podcast on a light or note. This dude's talking
about this chickening rape.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
My honest say rape. I still assaulted assault, but she
will say nine nine there was fifteen Polish guys the
Stax left.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Oh my god, that's fucking hilarious, dude, nice.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
Yeah, Man Hitler fucked up German forever, Germany forever, and
fucked up that style of mustache forever tooever. Bro Michael
Jordan trying to wear that shame. People are saying nor
mcdonald' said, no, Math Hitler, you gotta be stupid. You
get that mustache.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Ha dumb at this point, bro dumb. There's a guy
that walks that to a comic. I don't know his name,
but I see him in Texas, No here in, and
I see him pop up at the comedy store every
now and then, like waiting at the open mic, and
he's got a little Hitler mustache, and I kind of
want to walk over and be like are you trying
to start something heir what?

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
Bro, look at the bro look at him? No, No,
I s air Holocaust.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
I just think it's a stupid mustache too, like like
fuck like.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
The Heirschwitz.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
Like if Hitler had like a pointy cowboy musk, Bro,
I don't think it would have been I just think
it just was a stupid mustache.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Bad huh.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Yeah, it was a bad style choice on a bad person.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
He wanted to an exclamation point.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
I wonder what the real like reason behind his stupid
mustache was.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
I know that he was on cocaine and meth offeted me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
Throughout the parades Hitler because the video he needed he
needed his hand to stand like that for the whole parade.
Bro like an attention. We should we should read that
book one day and talk about it. It was called
blitz something What Yeah, that one blitzed ray? And then's

(01:25:25):
they talk about how how they trained the Germans little
by the Nazi Germans little by little was they all
had a little case of pills full of myth. So
they took one the first night because we wondered, man,
how come the Nazis every time they they get drawn,
they look like zombies with their eyes this big. When
they came into England broke to Russian. When they attacked

(01:25:46):
the Great Britain, they were all on myth and they
attacked for three days straight without sleep, Bro. And then
as soon as they were fucking those Guto rest those
send the next motherfuckers, Bro with five days straight or
no sleep. So a bunch of math.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
I can't remember, and I'll look it up and someone
will probably tell me in the comments. I can't remember
who's gave who math, but it was either the Japanese
gave them math or they gave the Japanese myth. But
that's also the comic.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Myth.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Because they had to fly for like a day straight
to get to where they were going.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
They were made to look like capsules. Someone like Rice
Rah get the fuck out when the Germans were like
little bean or Snitzels. To fool them. Bro, you think

(01:26:48):
they like you, Just remember how these people have the
poison pills. Just take it you will die.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
That actually happened lately within the last half decad, I
think a decade were that guy who they brought him
into court. I think it was a German guy too.
They brought him into a world court, and he was
there awaiting his confession, and you see him and he's
like he's holding his hands together, and all of a
sudden he goes like this, and then they try to

(01:27:15):
get it out of his mouth and then he just
ends up dying.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
Right, but look up, look look up a video, bro
It's called Argentinian woman singing in German, and play it
for us. Argentinian woman's Argentinan woman bro at an old
folks home and her whole life. They thought she was Argentinian.
And then like she starts singing and then she she

(01:27:39):
probably was a Nazi criminal, dude, but her and her
husband are singing the song verbatim bro like and she
was like a never like what.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
And then she but they thought she was German, but
she they really she.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
Was German hiding in Argentina.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Oh so was she like a Nazi sympathizer or something
that was hiding.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
She was a Nazi.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
She was a Nazi.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
But then later one I started my algorithm started showing
up more Argentinians. Went to go visit my mother, my
great grandmother, and Argentina Argentina, right, and then her fucking
towel was all white. But in the middle there was
a swastika. Oh man, yeah, like she had another joke, right,

(01:28:33):
oh someone else did that, Yeah, the joke for fools.
But you heard it. Hear my friend, my front line, my.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
My frown line. Oh that means lady, right yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Yeah. But later on, man, we'll talk about the influence
of Nazi soldiers in Star Wars. Yeah, the Stormtroopers aoh.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
I watched an interview with all send you the video
with George Lucas and there's that one scene in I
can't remember it's the Clone Wars maybe, or it's another
one where they're cheering and she goes, this is how
liberty dies and cheers, right, it's when he says we're
gonna He asked him about that, and he goes yeah,

(01:29:20):
and he talks about how, like it's weird how you
write about the you have the dark side, which is
this this aligned group of people that have technology, that
have everything, and they're fighting a group of rebels that
have only asymmetric warfare. And he's like, wouldn't you call
those people terrorists these days? And George Lucas fires back rider.

(01:29:45):
He goes, well, in my day, they were the Vietcong
and then before that they were they were they were
frontiersmen that were rebels, you know, And that's that's what
he's like, that's the conveyance. And so there I'm really
interested in how that because I always noticed that too.

(01:30:07):
I think we all noticed that as kids, is that
these guys are.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
Dressed like Nazis, you know, the boots the like, and
the emperor pants and the emperor main objective in Star
Wars just to control all trade really no ship. Yeah,
the imperialists like tariffs and stuff, control everything interesting. And
then that's why you got Han Solo, who who the

(01:30:31):
one of those people that transferre bringing illegal ship. The
fucking Solo is a smuggler, a smuggler, sugg smuggler, but.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
He's smuggling goods and stuff right for.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
People because then when he grabs the fucking the fucking
loose Skywalker, you know. And who are the Jungan in
that movie? If you ever watched Dune, it's not the
Jews you're looking for.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Well, that's the other thing is what's that one guy Auto,
the guy that flies around in the Phantom Menace.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
We just callba Fed the Jew Hunter.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
That's what I'm talking about. Dog that's what I'm talking about.
It's crazy, dude, It's fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
Have you ever seen Dune?

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
Dune?

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
But I don't watch anything that tries to be Star Wars.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Bro, it's I don't think it's trying to be Okay,
that is, yes, I will give you that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Because this is a soul.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
Long these movies, right, Okay, it's a really good movie.
Though I don't know, again, it is long. Even my
my nerdy as step sons were like, yeah, it's too
fucking boring, but I found it to be.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
They keep it tight.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
But I heard and I do believe that it emulates
the Dutch Spice Wars. That's what it's about. Because even
in the movie Dune, they're talking about rating the earth
for vice and the people. And again here's a situation.
It's like kind of like, you're right, it is like
Star Wars because the people in Dude, you saw Dude,
did you see Dune? So the people in Dune, the rebels,

(01:32:12):
are brown people and they have their own language, but
it sounds a lot like Middle Eastern.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
So those guys started like in Star Wars after I
starting Asian. Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
The one eight the chancellors are Asian dudes.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
Yeah, I'm like, hey, those are and then thought they
were like China here, Yes, dude, that's the Emperor here.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
Yeah. When you see the whole, when you see the
council scene and they're all like they're all representatives. All
those are Mexicans.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
Like, dude, that the kid that was like in control
of loose Skywalker. Man, he's done like little young Darth
Vaider right in the first one. Yes, he's on Armenian.
What are your men?

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
You're talking about the guy that sells That's what I
was talking about. Auto what's his name, Auto something? And
like me and my girlfriend have this this like battle
because she's like, I think he's supposed to be Jewish
and I'm like, I think he's supposed to be Albanian.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
Like each other. Do the tricks on him? And that
don't worked on me. It's five, but no, that worked
for me. Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
It's a weird. And say he's got the five o'clock
shadow and that huge nose.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
And looking fear and shit. But that was funny. How
all the all his ship they're not working this motherfucker. Yeah,
twenty dollars, Yeah, and he goes five. You think that's
gonna work on me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Kind of runs the liquor store by my house.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
He was a guy who saw me, saw me a
fucked about. So when I dudes stadium, bro, there was
an ugly motherfucker that like that, you know, like Palestinian
mescine fool. I don't know where he was from, right,
but he used to broke go to every area stelling
belts because he knew every day somebody was gonna be

(01:34:08):
a new stand for a new a stand worker. So
he knew one thing at that basket, they're gonna need
that strap to put it on to hold it. You're
gonna hold it with your hands. So that food just
going to Dodger Stadium. And if you need straps for
your for your stuff to carry. I got him. He
that's dirty as school, that's smart as yeah, dog, that's thought.

(01:34:31):
So basically he make he make like gu like a
long strap with a probably cost him two dollars a
dollar to make for.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
Five fuck yeah, why not, bro? You you would buy
it on the way in buy one? Yeah, of course, dude,
My god geniuses dude.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
And I told him, how about just three dollars?

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
He's all your chicks would where got he.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
Was together like like that my total driver. Bro, my friend,
your back is like some Albanian motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
Oh. Bro, that's the thing is here in La Dude.
That's because we in the BA area and pride ourselves
on our internationality stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
Nah, dude, and you live in a big city, you're
gonna see it right away. But if you don't, like,
if you're from Park, Bro, you're from Michigan, Michigan somewhere, Bro,
somewhere in the South. You're not used to hearing all
these accents, so to use it the regular movie.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
I wasn't either, though, I'll be honest with you, Bro.
When I moved here, I was like, there's racism people
I didn't even know fucking existed. Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
I was like, when I saw Jorg jar Beaks, I thought,
walking to a three or three game, Bro, right away.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
I'm on, that's a Jamaican guy. That's a fucking Jamaican guy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
When I saw him, I said, Bro, that's some scanless
chick from Miami. From him a jam laya him Malaya
whatever they're called from the Himalayas. How about Lena. I
know they call that place in Miami. Oh oh oh.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
From Havana from Little Havana.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
Oh my god, Cardy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, they have a weird name for it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
Right, yeah, like bro Like like when I watched Star Wars,
I said, where all the Mesicans at? And I see
them all. We're the Tuscan Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
We're the Tuscan Raiders.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
Yeah, and we're the little Java muffer that could fix everything.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
Yes, those are watermelons, but uh now they're from Wahaka
bro or Whata Hawkins.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
That's what I meant.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
They're wa Hawkans Peruvians, but sea walks Filipinos. Dude, listen
to how they talk. They're short, and they fucking super
Asian and they have like little sling shots that they
fucking dude, they're Filipinos. I've been around Filipinos a lot,

(01:36:56):
and they're tiny and.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
They the fool under the water.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
Those are the jarjar Binks guys. Right, Yeah, those guys are.
I think they're supposed to be Jamaicans. Yeah, we should
do a whole who we think is what race? Yeah, man,
that would be good for us, that would be good
for the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
I think we should because I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
I think actually, because I didn't, I thought the Mexicans
were the Chewbawcans the no, which that dude, the joke
makes way more better sense. But I really did think, like,
because they have the Bandeleros, the Wookies had the Bandolero's.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
They're all mechanics.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
Yeah, yes, they're all mechanics, dude, That's what I'm saying.
This dude, George.

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
Lucas, he grew up in Modesto. By the way, he is.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
From Modesto, so he kind of which is an international
small town in a way.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
If you ever go to Modesto, it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
Shout out to Yosemite Lanes history for fools.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
So if if Star Wars was East or westburn was
East Berliner and West Berliner and Star Wars.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
Easy, That's fucking easy, bro. The fucking dark side is
East Berlin and then the west side is is the Rebels.
But now the Rebels have a lot more technology these days.
So we should make any Star Wars, we should make
it super racist. You know what, the next Star Wars
is gonna be about fucking Mexicans.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
And also it could be very stereotypical. Man, that that
fucking that fucking that fucking Simuel Jackson lightsaber, the same
color as the Crown Royal bag. Is that true? Get
the fuck out of here. Everybody has light blue.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
Samuel L. Jackson with his life, saber, Get the fuck
out of here, bro, Get out of it. George Lucas
called me tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
Otherwise we're get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
Shut out to fucking princes.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
And it's getting gold. Look at it's in a gold
Look at the gold handle for it too.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
Yeah. Look at his jacket, Bro, that's a little string
from the Crown Royal. Like he came out with gold, Chase, boll.
He came out of a Crown Royal bottle. Bro in
the genie. Oh god, how they died? They kicked a food.

(01:39:45):
They took him out of the He thought out of
a window like a regular fool get thrown out of
a club through a window. Bro. They did.

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
They did him like that too, They threw him out
of the club.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
What happened, Bro? Better he probably somewhere a little ghost.
So what happened? Man to what happened to Anakin? Oh man?
You know, he never gonna believe no black Jedi. Man,
He's never gonna bring nothing coming out of my mouth.
You know, white old white man looking like a wizard
and ship speaking lies Maga lies in his head. Ah

(01:40:29):
make Anakin great again?

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
Oh my god. But you know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
I go far on this, bro far, Like really.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
I think we should rewrite Star Wars. Really yeah, I
think you should rewrite Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
All right, man, history for food. We're gonna rewrite Star Wars.

Speaker 3 (01:41:06):
Bookmaking so book at the person, so person

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