EP 80 - The Tragedy of the Radium Girls - History for Foos

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Speaker 1 (00:23):
His street for fools. Philippe's bars right here with the
big titties hanging out. What are you guys doing chilling
right here? We're talking about we got a butch basketball
right here. Man, you got looking for that T shirt? Man?
Just go there on at Lost Highway gas station. There's

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an old man out there selling little hats that are
made out of fish and string.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
You're not far off from the truth, my friend. You're
not far off from the truth. I do gas station
shop quite often. That's I like the wolf with the
like moon or the bass jumping out of the water.
You know, it's very natural to me.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Welcome, you're back to history for food. Hello hallo, haakiki mello. Hello, Hello, Hello.
That was the favorite joke. Bro. What do you call
Hawaiian guy that masturbates mela? Hallo? All right, that should

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be a dad joke.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
It is kind of a dad joke.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, man, save that one. Will tell cut that up.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I'm gonna put I'm gonna put that out there his
birthday party.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I'll use it there. You know what they call it
lua because the first time the first white guy they burned,
they were lou and he was like and was burning
everybody's going okay.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
So, oh man, we just did a weekend at her mine.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, we get an Irvine improv. Think everybody who came
out six sold out shows, there was a waiting list.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
All sold out shows. All of them were sold out.
And I don't know if you guys, the Irvine improv,
I think is the largest improv.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
I've seen. If you were if you were at my show,
you would have saw that My show is pretty much
what America looks like, all ages pretty much. There was
people there from twenty one years old to seventy seven.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Mm.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, there was.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's always a mixture of people too. My favorite is
seeing when I see old white people that don't have kids.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
There, lady there. She was there in Irvine with her
friend for her fiftieth high school reunion. No shit, yeah,
she graduated in nineteen seventy eight. Oh man, nine years
later I was supposed to graduate, and then like four
years after that was supposed to graduate again. And I said,

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you know what I gave up?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Bro, Do you miss not having a reunion?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
No?

Speaker 3 (03:11):
No, I don't. I have I have an army.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Because they could come to my show and watch it.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Right, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
That's who I told that lady when I was doing
crowd work. I said, while you're here for your fiftieth
year at anniversary nineteen because you graduated nineteen seventies five.
I guess, yeah, seventy seven, And I said, wow, I
had my high school reunion at the unemployment office. We
were both standing in line, man fighting for the same
warehouse job.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
We were both standing in line.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Fighting for the same window cleaning. And but bro, I put, like,
when you ever been to unemployment office? No, by the way,
it's not called the unemployment office, that's the name that
we gave it to it. It was all the Employment
Evaluation Department.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Something EED or something like that. Employment. I don't know
what it is. But by the time I was able
to qualify for unemployment, by time, by the time I
got to be unemployed, you just called it in.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
And they set you a thing. You ever a collect unemployment? Yeah?
Oh yeah, they still your unemployment now right.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
I call it the company scholarships on Florida.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
In Florida, they don't believe in unemployment.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I could see how I could see that happening there.
That's unfortunate, because I don't you pay in the unemployment.
It's not like, uh, it's not like a tax thing
where like everybody pays into it, like you pay into
your own unemployment, you know, a portion of your wages.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
But what I mean they got to rid of me
after two weeks, I still got unemployment, right. Oh that's
the thing, dude. It's like, but what it was that
that unemployment that were giving me was all the unemployment
I put in from other jobs too, right, yes, and
then my name the employer plays us pays only a

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stiphen from it the last employer.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean that's the thing is that
you know, it's insurance, and like insurance, you.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Know, you pay in the ear And they were like,
go back to the unemployment office and you gotta talk
to the guy and he gotta show him all those
places that you went to go look for a job. Yeah, oh, line,
my ass up.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
I used to because well, the Internet's already there, so
I used to just go, like because I was a bartender,
so I would just look at all the bars in
the city. And then actually even before the Internet, I
would use I used to remember using.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
The phone book.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, yeah, fucking It's like, oh, this is gonna last
you four months, right, So three months. I watched a
lot of movies the first time, and then the last
month I looked for a job.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
And I got like a job like day one of.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Not having unemployment, you know what I mean? Like has
been always had that luck. But but the last time
I got out of planet was during the pandemic, damn,
and that was there was more money than I made
in comedy.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Bro we wrote a song, okay that Cat Stevens songs.
Now I'm moon Shadow moon Shadow, leaping and hopping on
a moon Shadow moon Shadow moon Shadow. And if I
ever lose my land, or if I ever lose my hand,

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or if I want to work no more, you know
Cat Stevens, Right, Yeah, so I rewrote it, Bro, I
don't know this song. I'm being followed by an eyes agent,
eyes eyes eyes agent, deeping in low. I've been laying
out out from the agent, and if I ever get deported,

(07:07):
I don't work no more. No, yeah, man, I like that.
People have told me Brow, you have it. Why haven't
I spoken out about about the math deportations and people

(07:27):
getting swooped up, you know, getting picked up, right? Because
I only have six and thirty three followers, Why are
you attacking me? I have six hundred and thirty three followers. Now,

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if I were to speak out, I partly lose thirty
thousand followers, right, and those thirty thousand followers took me
five years to get. And yeah, also, man, why are
you going after me? Like why should anybody that's done

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Brown's affected? And even though they're gonna say nothing, they
feel it, like oh man, even like if you're saw
Dorian and you see like a whole family being taken,
the whole family, you know you feel it. But if
I'm watching a movie, I'm watching TV and they're like,
they're like pepper spray, there's there's fucking Pisa and and

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they're not doing nothing to him because he's eating it,
you know, because he used to eating spicy food anyway.
So yeah, it's only burning his eyes, not his mouth.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
You can handle it, ah, I I mean yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
But also I had six sold out shows, right, But
people think people just are the people the people who
always say you haven't spoken out to me, they never
been to a live show. So okay, I wish you were.
I wish you were to talk go to a live
show and tell.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Me personally right, I would say, that's the thing that's
come out. Hang out, and I mean you got to
be rude. Just walk up and be like, hey, man,
just kind of notice that you haven't said anything, which
I don't know if you haven't said it, because I mean,
you're not like sitting there shaking your fists being mad.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
But that's not your job. That's the thing is that.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Here's the thing, man, I tell you what. I went
to a Dodger game with the Angels. I was the
only one that stayed with no gear. You don't see
me wearing a Dodger hat anymore, right, Yeah, I root
for the Dodgers, but you don't see me wearing that hat. Right,
I wear a hat like this, it won't be a
blue one, here's it. Right?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Well, be you're a Dodgers fan though.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, right, I'm rooting for the T shirts.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
But this is the thing.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
It's like, I'm I'm very I come from a pretty
political family, and my family definitely is. My mom was
an activist. She she works with says Chavez. And my
dad worked a.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Lot in like the civil rights and stuff. And you
know I'm not lying about this, bro.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
You know my dad so like don't even go there
with that. You know, my family, So like it's a
big deal. What's happening right now is a big deal
to me. But I'm not a politician. I mean I
already am vocal enough to where I annoy enough people
around me, Like my own followers are like, bro, like
yeah that this kind offends me, But I still like you.
So that's the thing, man, is like I saw my

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job to be vocal about it. It's my job to
be like what do I how do I feel? Yeah,
it's fucked up, stop fucking kidnapping our citizens off the street.
But also I got to make people laugh. That's my
fucking job. That's your job. Like if you're out there
waving your fistiting and getting all angry and it's like, oh,
our fucking guy who makes us laugh is fucking upset,

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then who do we have to turn to to make
us laugh?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Because like the left side saying that they're picking them
up with no Thirsch warns they're rather grabbing people.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, yeah they are. They totally are. I Mean, I
don't know what the laws are.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
But I've seen anybody getting snatched.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
I have not, but I was there a little bit
before it happened when we went to go pick.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Up they're about to go to we don't smoke those
same b and grab somebody. They are in that neighborhood
are That's the thing is because I go pick up
they might live in.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I pick up our weed not too far around the
corner from there, and usually it's hustling and bustling everywhere.
Like when I would go there, you know, like there's
a lot of people that come even in the evening
to pick up things, you know, I was, and then
it's always And then when the raids started happening, a
lot of the businesses shuddered and there was like one

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business in the middle one there. And then this last
time I went, it was completely quiet, and I asked
the guys inside of what the fun happened?

Speaker 1 (12:05):
We just got raided about like two hours ago. I
gotta asked to do one of those PCA commercials or
on Instagram, but I might end up doing it. But
I had to change the narrative right right, because they
wanted me to like show a lot of people are

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the people are getting in and I'm deported, Like can
max it for me here in California especially right only
know from here their pet owners, so their pets are
being left alone. Yeah, and in the land know what
to do, not because because people are not going to
come back and do the little pet. So they're trying
to They wanted me to draw awareness. But if you

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have one to adopt these.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Little that's but that's the department that you working.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, these illegal dogs. But I said, nah, man, because
because people are really say I ever spoken out, they
would have been saying stuff like, oh, so you care
about more about dogs than my grandma.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
But that No, that's your department though.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
But I'm telling you, bro, yeah, you care more about
dogs than my grandma.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Okay, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
There's a brother German shepherd. Bro, I was born here.
I can't. Okay, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Your grandma could feed herself like when she gets to Mexico.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Like, no, you can't.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
This dog's left in the house.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Someone needs to get to the dog too.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Bro. I noticed, Bro Devin when your grad when like
was brotherident Trump said we're gonna go after gremin.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
No, your grandma doesn't lick my face when I come home.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
You never asked her, Bro. You should have told her
take her dangers off and speak and speak closely to
you should have been licking you like a dog with
an old shuit.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I feel like there's a department for everybody. And if
like the thing is that Felipe cares a lot about animals,
like like I know this personally that like they rescue dogs,
they care very much about it. I don't think I've
met people more carrying towards their pets, and that means
a lot, like because I think pets get overlooked.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
It's just like there's a lot of things.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
If if Felibe's department was rescuing Grandma's then I would say, yeah,
what the fuck, Felipe, Why are you fucking reading about
dogs and cats when there's fucking missing Grandma's out there.
But you care about dogs and cats, So that's your
that's your charity, that's what you give to.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
I don't know if you've seen that page where a
celebrity they go like this, Oh, I'm gonna go on
on a date with this dog, and it's like a
dog dad being been in a pound for like three years,
right on fostible, Right, you hang out with a dog
all day, that's amazing. Yeah, I'll do that. Can you
do that?

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Where do you do that? Oh you're doing that?

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, for like a show or something. Yeah, some Instagram team.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
That's fucking dope, dude.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah. And then in a bond adopt schlep Rock whatever name.
I would love a dog named slept Rock. You are rock.
I know.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
That's why me and slept Rock could be schlept Rocks together.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well, so what do you think about comedian wearing shorts
on stage? Bro? In they're past forty, don't.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
I don't think you should wear shorts on stage period.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Even if you're a big guy, Matt, I don't.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Care if you're a big little thud.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
If you're a big guy, yeah, you should wear something
you just fits. Bro. Nobody want to just see a
grown man legs.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I think here's the thing, bro, male and female, I mean,
I don't know. Open toe shoes are a big no
for me either way. On stage, shorts are a big no.
Like raggedy T shirts like you just like I wear
T shirts on stage, but they always have like graphics
on them because that's my thing.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
But yeah, dude, nah, I don't do that.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Look at you just loa bro, you got what happened?

Speaker 1 (16:04):
You're on your way. I don't know who the Okay,
he's fine, bro.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Oh is that what he does?

Speaker 1 (16:10):
He's his friends?

Speaker 3 (16:12):
I see.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I still feel like, look, bro, you're only way to
pick up gatorade for your girlfriend before she goes running,
and you decide to go drop a set.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
I feel it's very unacceptable. I do feel it's very unacceptable.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
How do you feel?

Speaker 1 (16:27):
How about how about comedians that say, oh, man, I
never booked Bush because he never wear a suit on stage.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
I'm sorry, I don't. I wouldn't be effective in a suit.
I look uncomfortable. And I tried wearing a suit for
quite some time, and I look like a big gorilla
in a fucking tuxedo, just trying to fucking be funny.
And uh, I would not wear a suit. My man's
not on stage. He just got done surfing and drinking,

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so leave him alone.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
No, you wear a suit one time?

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, I used to wear I wore I used to
wear a bomb, bro, bomb. You should go with what
fits you, with what goes like with your Remember this
fucking this, this comic named Cookie with One night, bro,
I was working with Edwin and she walks in and
She's like, you look like you're sloppy, and she.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Was just talking ship.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
I wanted to just fucking push it through a wall,
but like I want to explain her, like I can't.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Cause she was like, you should dress up, you should
take this.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Like, fuck you bitch.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
First of all, fucking I dressed the way that I
dress because this is what fits me.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
I look like this.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
If I start wearing a suit, then I look like
I'm Even if I wear what you're wearing right now,
I would still look like I'm trying to be something I'm.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Not, Like a European DJ.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
You wear this exactly exactly DJ King, you know, like kango,
a little furry green kangle.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
I'm good, bro.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
I oh yes, dude, One time time I did actually
wear a complete suit.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Do you remember? Holy fuck yes?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
How could I forget this? Dude?

Speaker 3 (18:07):
First time Felipe bra Yes, first time you ever.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Bought you the only one wearing suit.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
So me and Felipe had a good day. One day
I picked him up. This is when I first met you, bro,
and like it's the very first day I met you.
Like they were like can this Dude's like, can you
pick up Felipe? As far as and take them to
the radio station. I'll let you plug your show. I
was like, fuck that. I just want to meet this fool.
So I came with hell weed. I gave you a
big old bag, and then we went to this radio show.

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We had a good time and you're all, dude, let's
kick it. And we smoked weed all day and kicked it.
And then he invited me to do this show. I
have a new comic, bro, it's like my first year,
second year in comedy. Yeah, there's no way this is happening, dude.
So I go home, I go, hey, I need it.
You send me the flyer and it says formal wear
only on the flyer because he was at the Steinbeck

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Center and a that's a fake picture, by the way,
it's AI.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
So I see this and I tell my dad.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I'm like, I got invited to the show by this,
like by this guy, this big comic, and I got
to show up wearing a tuxedo or like a nice suit.
So my dad took me to the Big and Tall
and uh fucking we got we got me fitted for
this fucking outfit.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
And I rolled up and you guys are dressed.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
You guys are dressed like this, like, yeah, Cheppo's wearing
shorts and you you're license you're like you were. You
were like nice enough to not say anything because we
were still like not knowing each other as well enough.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
But Edwin right away was like, why are you Why
are you dressed like that?

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Like what the fuck is up with you? And I
was like it.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Said it said for more and he goes, that's for them,
not for us.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
We're comics.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
After that, bro, never, I tried wearing a blazer for
a while, and then someone finally walked up to me
that knew me that was another comic, and they were like,
you're not you look dumb in a blazer, Dude, you
look like a fucking gorilla walking.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Around but gila, So I yeah, no, I don't.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Know, bro, what about you? I see you wear stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
You look good.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I was gonna say, you're you're specs, so.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
You look like you know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
You're a big guy. You're wearing your tuxs.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Dude, you look very very momoa ish if I if
you will, but me, no, man, I wish there was
pictures of me in suits.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
There's only one or two out there. Floating around.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
You were a suit man. People are thinking a pit
boss and the like they're in a casino.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, I look like I'm like guarding somebody like that
does bad things, like not even like a like legit
like bodyguard. I look like like I'm just a heavy
hand for somebody.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
What's up, everybody, history for fools? We're talking about radium girls.
Radium Okay, look it up. It's about like this, Radium
girls r A d I U emr finger girls. What
they're radium girls. That's we're mistained them, mistaken by random

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girls that I radiated.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Right right, Well, they are kind of random girls that
did radiate.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Radium girls is the Damon, Tory, Brauer, Young Quy, and
outer ten.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Those are just some of them.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
During and just after World War One, the National Bureau
of Standards hired five women to work with one of
the most valuable materials in the world at the time, radium,
worth the equivalent today of over one million per gram.
Their measurements of this material would be used to save
lives if the radioactive radium didn't injury or kill them first,

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but they received little credit for this dangerous and important work.
That means that in eighteen ninety eight a woman named
Mary Schlololowski Curie, and we're gonna that's not her second name.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
You know how much radium was an ounce back?

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Then? A millionaire says there now, well.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
At the time in their money was forty seven thousand
dollars nineteen twenty forty seven spec an ounce.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
So, like before, we talk about what they used it for.
What was radium use before?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Or what is so radium is invented by? So, radium
is invented by a lady named Marie Curie with their
middle name in nineteen eleven. Oh, you're gonna make me
do that?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I okay, it's Kadowski or she's Polish. We talked about this.
I should have been ready for this before, because you
did point out that Polish people very much want us
to make sure that her Polish descent is mentioned. Skladowski
you're close what Skladowski?

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, Marie Kladowski. Curi is her full name. And she's
really proud of her Polishness because Polish Poland did not exist.
It existed when she was born, but it didn't exist
when she was alive because of monarchy and he became
part of run blah blah blah. Russian Empire swallowed it up.

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So she was proud of her polishness that she wanted.
She she was like she kept her full last name
when she got married, which back then it was it
was not like something to do to keep your your
official last name. Just take your man's last name and
call it a day. But not like not like when

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bush Ki is married, he's gonna catch take his wife's
last name and ruin her critic to.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Why would I take why would I use my Yeah,
her last name is uh Caucasian last name.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, man, your last name has called out damage all
over the world through the roof. So and she did
it also because she part of her feminism, I know,
the big feminist movement at the time. Right, And she
invents a lot of stuff with radiation, right, well, she invented.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, she worked with radiation a lot, and radiation was
only invented in eighteen ninety six. And she discovered radium
in nineteen eleven. And radium is a byproduct of the
process of curing radiation. So she had discovered that this product,

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it glowed and it did certain things. But most importantly
what they had discovered at this time which is crazy
because the major discovery of radium in.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Major use.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Was not necessarily it's glow in the dark qualities, which
it could glow in the dark continuously for thousands of years.
But it also they found because when they were working
with it, it burned their skin. And you know, there's
this one story of the man one of the discoverers

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who helped Mary Carey. He kept it in his pocket
like a good luck charm, a small vial like maybe
a gram, and he noticed that over time there was
a red spot on his leg and it got worse,
and it got worse.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
So they knew that it did things to you.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
But what they also discovered is that it it would cure.
It would burn away tumors on people, and it cured
what they could because that was what they considered cancer
and carcinoma back then was like a lot of tumors
and stuff. So it burned off tumors. So the news

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got back that it was a health product. It started,
you know, because this is America nineteen twenties, there's no
legalities or no oversight on like who what truth and
advertising is, even though there's still not but truth and
advertising isn't a thing. Really, So they created this product,

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you know, kind of made it a healthy thing, and
there was people drinking it. There were people that were
using it in toothpaste on their teeth. There were cigarettes
made with it, but a lot of those, a lot
of those were lies. Fortunately at the time.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
My grandfather, boy, he's just started his morning with a
big cup of radium. Did he really nice?

Speaker 2 (26:29):
And how did it work out for him?

Speaker 1 (26:32):
I don't know, man, he's a puppet to talk for him.
After with mouth going.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
With this story that we're about to tell, and by
the way, this is this is this is please joke
as much as you can.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Bro because this is a very dark, hemous This is.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
One of those things after we may goes, hey, I
want to do this, and I'm like, yeah, that sounds easy.
And to be honest with you, reading about it was
not hard. Finding a lot of things out was very easy.
Is a very linear story. But Jesus Christ, so they
were here things I've ever heard of.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
It was long known that the radium was unsafe, by
the way, but the companies that the women painted that worked. Well.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Let's get into the hold on before you start to
go back to the coastal radium, right, Okay, the costal
radium was exceeded by the cost of antimatter.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Anti matter was then replaced by print or ink at
the most expensive stuff that's produced.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
By no way, no fucking way, really.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, but we're just let you know what came after.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
But what printer ink?

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Because this ship is expensive, dude, but not everybody had it,
right the whole world or now you're an ink. Yeah,
that's true. That's true.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
So this is the thing is like, okay, so let's
I'll cut to the chase with this. So they start
to use radium.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Radium is something that came radium may out of radiation.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
It's a byproduct of making radiation of making a uranium.
It's a by product of making uranium.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
That we discover it's it's dug up in the ground or.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
It glows in the dark. It's it's not necessarily dug
up in the ground by itself. It's a byproduct or
like as you know, it's kind of like how we
make silver. Silver isn't found like gold is found, like
crushing components like rocks and stuff to find gold.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
It was what creates silver a lot of times.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
So it's the same kind of thing like as we're
crushing things up, we're like noticing that that this byproduct glows,
and so so we we use it first to cure tumors.
Then it becomes a health tonic, but we also learn
we also learn at some point that it just yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
In Superman, that's radium. They're telling Crypto Knite is radium.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Bro, I think that's what they were doing.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Take crypt Superman movie is radium. And the guy that
came up with the fucking Superman must known about radio
girls and saw the fucking color that was Superman invented
nineteen oh one. Okay, I think when was Superman invented?
Because that's an interesting because every nerd out there who
write that rides they read everything. Bro, You just cannot

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come up with a comment without ever reading anything.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
So this is the thing, is like this thing starts
to go, it glows in the dark continuously forever pretty
much or at least as long as thirty eight nineteen
thirty perfect time. Oh yeah, this is right after and
kind of in the middle of it. So that's the thing.
Is so like this thing, this product we find, glows
in the dark continuously, and we start to use it
on things likes exit signs and stuff like that, and

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on clocks.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
But you know the growing a dark watches and the
radium from back then.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Not anymore, but that's the tradition of them.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
And the thing is is, well, oh watch it, like
wait a minute, man, they still have radio.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
So that watch, look for radium watches.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Remember the watch that that guy had his ass in
fucking World War One? Bruce Willis Is watch, Bruce Willis
watch Butcher's the Namath Butcher and fucking pulp fiction. That watch.
He said that his dad carried it that lower one. Okay,
here we go, bro, here we go, and all thats

(30:19):
up and go to the pulp fiction with fucking hold on.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
So the girls were talking about they used to paint
this on all the dials. This needed to be hand
painted at one time.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Go ahead, so go to that picture of pulp fiction.
Christopher Walking meets young Butch. Christopher Walking meets young Butcher,
pulp fiction. I think that was Vietnam though, no, no, no,
no no, no, you'll see right now. My friend, really,
my friend, he going like this this watch right here,

(30:56):
just watch. This watch was given to the serviceman in
World War One. And your your watch. Your great great
grandfather was shot down by the Allies and his friend
picked it up and he gave it to your grandmother.
And your grandfather wore this watch in World War two,

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and when he was caught by the viet Corus, he
shoved that watched up his cold and held it for
about a year until he died of dysenterry. And then
he handed it over to to keptain Major Cooley, who
is Christopher Walking, and Christopher Walking said he held that
watch for two years and now he's handing it over

(31:41):
to fucking Bruce Willis. So that watch didn't kill that guy, Terry,
he killed him with radiator because that watches it probably
has the more radium than anything.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
So that's what we're going to fight right now, is that.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
So that nineteen oh one that would have radium, That
watch has radium World War two.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Baby, it won't kill you. That's the thing is that
I don't know, like I wanted to find out. I
didn't have time to find out the effects on on
wearing it over your wrists because it's a small amount.
See what we're talking about is these women and this
is only okay, So mind you what there's radium companies

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all over the world, and you might ask yourself, well,
if there's radium companies all over the world, why it
did it only happen to girls on the East coast
of the United States.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
And here's why.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Because in other places, they were treating radium with respect.
They were wearing the right equipment.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Like Homer Simpsons, they were dressed like Homer Simpson.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
They were using tools. They were using a crystal or
ivory tip to use to paint on the dial. Women
in the United States and specifically Orange, New Jersey and Helloise,
they were using what was called the lip dip technique,
where they would like they would take a piece of brush,

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dip it in the water, dip it in their mouth,
and then they would twist it and sharpen the tip
with their mouth, dip it in the paint, and then
paint the paint the paint the watch, and then repeat
the process. Meanwhile, as they're dipping the paint and then
actually at some point they take the water away from
them and so now they're just using their mouth to

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dip in the paint, paint the watch, twist in their mouth,
dip in the paint, and it was called the lip dip.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Paint uh technique. So technically what they were doing they
will get that brush, dip it in radiation radium and
then put in their mouth to make it a tip.
And then how barbaric bro Well, it's like they couldn't
couldn't just get like a old school feather bro story

(33:55):
sharp right. Well, the thing is it won't stroke like
a brush.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Wouldn't stroke like a brush. The women film, it'll drop right.
And then the other thing is is that this product
is very expensive and and what these women don't know
is that it's dangerous at the time, so to.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
They just happen to have jobs.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Do they think it's a health product because because people
are advertising everywhere and again their lies, because it's so
expensive that drinks have it, toothpaste has it.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Oh it made all those ladies look like Chuck Bartell
and Bubble Brown.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Oh my god, it really did though.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
But but that's the thing is that you have these
women that one think it's a health product. Two, they're
getting paid a fuck ton more than anybody else, even
men at the time, to.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Make these to make these things.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Three its me this the radium luminous watch is the
latest novelty and a time piece. An English company is
making them. The dials and hands are illuminated by a
radium compound that makes it's easy to tell the time
in the dark. The above picture shows how the well
back then people that have risk watches happen.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
We didn't have well.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Risk watches were not a thing for men because men
had pocket watches. Men thought if you were a watch
and you were a dude, you were gay.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Because of course, bro, because it's because you're out there
blowing somebody checking what time it is?

Speaker 3 (35:13):
No, I don't know about that, but anyway, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
When you're going down on somebody, what time is it?
Hold on man? No.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
So strategically, in World War One and during trench warfare,
men couldn't look at like they couldn't pull out a
pocket watch and look at it with a flashlight, and
this radium watch helped. Okay, But going back to I
want to go, I want to express why these women
were doing this. It made them glow in the dark,
and they loved it, and they thought it was healthy

(35:45):
for them. They didn't know it was dangerous at the time.
They thought it was healthy. So they're lip dipping and
again we're in World War One.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
We need these to their mouth glow.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yes, their teeth would glow at night.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Sometimes they'd sneak at home and put it on the
kids at home home because they could paint mustaches on
themselves and and and paint things on their faces and
do their nails.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Are doing what what red eggs in the in the
in the south will do when they will fucking smash fireflies?

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yes, yeah, I guess that's I mean, because.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
You've a firefly, you smash it your hand glow for
a little while. Yeah, no ship, Yeah, get the fuck out.
I've never seen a fire to Lisa. No, they're from
dates in Ohio. They told me they would, you know, summertime.
They will grab and put them in a jar and
then when they come out there just grub it underhaf
and her clothes and they'll glow. But it goes away,
right you go the way.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Yeah, it's phosphorescence, is the thing.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I know that, Like there's parts of I know that
even in San Diego at times you can see it
during a full moon, you can see shrimp moving together
in the water and it's a blue glow. It's called phosphorescence.
So that's the thing is that people think this is
healthy because again we don't. We have very minimal information.

(37:03):
Advertisement is not like doesn't have to be truthful at all.
There's no laws, there's no regulation. There's also workers comp
is barely becoming a thing. There's no fucking unions. Women
can't vote like those.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Young women work in the next stay as far as
young as fourteen, as.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Young as twelve or thirteen at times, but yeah, fourteen
is fourteen to twenty was the average age. Because they
had women, and they had they needed small women, so
they were always small with demere hands, because they needed
to have tiny hands to be able to paint these dials,
you know, with such precision, and you.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Got paid by the dial. You didn't get paid by
the hour.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
So the more dials you put out, the more I
think I have a price breakdown.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
You can't have no shaky ass hands.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Huh fuck no, you can't not have. I mean, men
are really really not happy with this either.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
They're not working.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
A man at the time got forty cents per per
hour minimum wage. A woman got twenty five cents an hour.
A dial painter made forty seven cents per hour and
did about two hundred and fifty dollars per day, so
you know, that's quite a bit of money. That's eight
dollars and ten cents an hour. You know, for them
much eight dollars and ten cents an hour as.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Well, is what it's easyul oh what it is now? Yeah,
a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
It's not a lot of money, but for them it
was at the time. You know, again, women at the
time were making if you were to equate what men
made back then to now, this is crazy, dude, six
dollars and ninety cents an hour. Women made four dollars
and thirty cents an hour. Dial painters made eight dollars.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
And ten cents an hour.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Now we're also talking about quality of life, where like
your apartment isn't as expensive, food's not as expensive. Women
women that did this actually did well. They lived better
lives than most people. And so it was a prestigious
job and it was hard to get job. It was
like a kin to being a dock worker even to
this day, which is a hard job to get. You

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have to have a friend that's a dock worker, that's
that's a child of a dock worker. So this was
kind of that job, you know, and so some of
these girls would have their their sisters come and work
with them. There's one case where this one sister talks
too much during the time that she's there, so they
fire her.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
And I'm kind of like, wow, how to look back
and see.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
They look that girl that she died but she never
worked there, but her sister did it. But she will
become in breathing as well because they.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Laid in bed together.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
They slept in the same room together, because they were poor,
and they would sleep in the same rooms together. And
so there's there's cases where husbands died, there's cases where
children of the person who worked there died.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
And and what what we find out is that the
paint going in your body, so you consume this body
and this is how this paint works. This well, okay, sorry,
not the paint, but the radium itself. And in the
first particular case, because we're talking about two different companies.
You were talking about US Radium Company an illuminated faces company,

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but the first one we're talking about is the US
Radium Company, and they had a product that actually attacked
your system quicker. And it was so when you eat radium,
which you're not supposed to and they were told this
is completely healthy. They would even show at the beginning,
like when they bring the girls in for training, one
of the trainers would pick up a spatul a full

(40:34):
of radium and put it in her mouth. Radium acts
like when it enters your body, it acts like calcium,
so it attaches yourself to your bone. Now again, remember
we said it ate tumors in skin, right, so imagine
your bones also being eaten a lot by this, but
carrying the thing that eats your basically the raw meat

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of your body from the inside out. And so the
first case is the one lady. Her name is Molly Magia,
and she starts losing her teeth, and all of a sudden,
the she starts losing her teeth and she goes to
the dentist. He removes one tooth. She comes back a

(41:16):
few weeks later and her the sowre in her mouth
hasn't healed. Then he removes another tooth, then he removes.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
A third tooth.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Like they can't figure out her she's not healing. She
comes back and then she goes, I think it's in
my jaw. Something in my jaw hurts. Then the dentist
goes and lightly pushes on her jaw, and her jaw
pops out of her mouth, not like uh like breaks,
it breaks, but it pops out of her mouth. And
then so and there's a woman, this woman's I can't

(41:46):
remember her name right now, but that's a tumor from this,
you know. So your body basically is poisoning you. And
that's the thing. Is that so half life? You know
what half life means a life? So like half life
and you're like, let's say you take I'll be pro
from for a headache, right, it'll start, it'll start to

(42:07):
wear in, right, and and then you hit a peak
time of about two hours. That's the half life. Then
the aspirit will start to wear off.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Right.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
So the half life on radium inside your body is
sixteen hundred years, meaning that it doesn't die out.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
For sixteen hundred years. You have to.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
It won't start to go away out of your body
for that long.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Ladies will paint their teeth.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
They would paint their teeth, They would just mess around,
put it on their lips. They would paint their teeth
and smile and go look at me, you know, and
like shit like that, dude, But this thing that they
didn't realize was happening.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
So this first lady goes in and then after a
while another lady goes in.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
And she died of the result of her studies. You
know what.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
The first lady getting back to the curry, Yeah, she had.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
And she invented polium. Polonium. That's why she came up.
She named it polonium because of her proud polishness.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
No way, yeah, okay, she.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Named it polonium. Look at polonium. They just bro look
at her sarcoma. Who is that is that?

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Mary?

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Yeah, that's a lady, Molly, Maggia, Molly, you a big
job like you said. Yeah, that's right. They made her.
They made her in a character in Men in Black
Bachian look up. Also after that, look up Man in
Black Ball, Chinian Ball. You see a lot of those.

(43:40):
I always feel that a lot of the stuff that
we see in in science fiction movies from those times.
You know, they needed to They couldn't just make up
what a what a martian looks like. I'm pretty sure
they started an effective person that was affected by radium
or they saw pig and they realized, you know, that

(44:01):
could be a good alien from my book.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
And then they use it as science freaking I'm sure
they did. Are They used like deformed people and shit
like fucking freak shows.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
And you did come that right there, like a lot
of just said with all old ladies right there that
worked there. For example, they all worked there. Okay, we
all know all the we all know they got radiation
and they got radio when he died, But the one
who didn't live but still carried it with him, I'm
pretty sure they've never been a story. But one of

(44:30):
those babies ended up looking like the elephant man. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Well, that's the thing is they had babies, and a
lot of the babies were fine, but some of them died.
There's one lady who had four babies in a row.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
All of them died like she couldn't.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
She just wasn't able to.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
I feel like the guy like who came up with Superman.
It was Superman. It was a story about a husband
a wife that was working and fucking at the radium.
But in her book it's planet Krypton and she's saying
to the people, Hey, man, this fucking company, it's gonna

(45:08):
destroy us. I mean, this fucking company. We're fucking these dials.
Do we know what time it is? It's time to quit.
This fucking radium is gonna fuck us up. So in
Superman movie, you can't make a woman a leader because
nobody watched that movie. So you make it Superman's father.

(45:30):
I don't know his name clearly on whatever her name is.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Superman's dad's uh.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Uh, I can't remember anyway, So Superman's dad and it's
it's talking about crypt Superman's father, Jurell. He's talking about
about about that the crypto is gonna be destroyed, right
because we're using about our resources and basically Krypton is

(45:59):
basically a metaphor for the radium factory. And he goes,
there's another fuck you man, shut up, because that's why
I look plage around again. Look a Polish woman, Look
a Polish woman, and the ass is because they were

(46:20):
being held by the Soviet Union. Boom boom boom my god,
So where do you go? So they said, they said,
you know what, man, we gotta stand our kid out
of here. Man send him back to set him back
to California or something, and then is destroyed.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Bro, that's good. That is good.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Also, man who swings Superman three Superman two. The actor
in that movie, Lord Zeus Don he died.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Really, yeah, I've not seen the new Superman.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Know the old Supermans? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Okay, wait, I.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Superman two of the ones they have the hot Lady
that Flies, and then I.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Did see that.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
And then Armenian, Yeah I did see that. I did
they have the only Armenian Superman.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Then I saw the one with Richard Pryor one Gene
Hacklin seen the news Superman Radium.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
I don't know that. I don't know. When I was
reading about this, I didn't know that there was actual
play called Radium Girls. I did not know that either.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Really, I know that, like through reading it, I found
out that.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
There was a lot of.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
There was a lot of like stories about them, and
then I found out that there was like a musical
or something.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
What happened to the girl that they that they ever
trying to take this company?

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Okay, so that's yes, Okay, so these girls start to
find out that this is killing them, Okay, and you know,
and dude, there's this this is this gids heinous because
like you know, at one point there's another the Catherine
Donahue where she's just kind of chilling at home and
she's in a lot of pain, and all of a sudden,

(48:07):
something pops in her mouth, like almost like magically, something
appears in her mouth and she pop pulls out a
piece of jaw, her job, her jaw broken three different.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
I read that, bro like she something popped in her mouth. Yeah,
And she was just sitting inchan nonchalant, just chilling.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
All of a sudden, like chilling, listening to you know,
some squishy just pops in her mouth and shed.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Yeah, and then that happens.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
There's again it's not just that women are getting like
their bones and their legs and their hips. But so
the first lady, Molly Maggia, since they couldn't find out
what she had at first, they thought she had a
thing called fossy jaw, which is what people were getting
that worked in like match companies, fostine jaw, fossy jaw
phosphorus like because phosphorus. Yeah, that guy right there in

(48:56):
the lower right, uh is a fossy jaw them And
fossy jaw is what happens when too much phosphorus gets
in your blood and solidifies itself around your muzzles. It's heinous.
But the doctor who found out that about. Molly went
to the radium factory asked to see what they would.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Know what their formula was.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
They told them, we cannot show your formula. It's a secret.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Dude. They put that shit in toothpaste. Fuck your teeth more. Huh. Right.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
But that was the thing, though, is good luck happens
in this case because most companies are allowed to lie
back then about what they put in their products. And
since this is forty seven thousand dollars a jar, a
small jar, you got to remember, twelve ounces is a soda.
Twelve ounces is a soda. Yeah, one of those, one
of those all ounces in there is worth forty seven

(49:47):
thousand dollars in nineteen twenty, okay.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Which is worth millions now, right.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
So so that's the thing, man, is like, they're not
putting it in toothpaste, they're not putting it in your drinks.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
They're lying to you.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
But people are willing to put this in their fucking mouth.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
So what happens is is that this first lady dies,
and what do you think they diagnose her with? Since
they can't figure out that that it's radium poisoning and
then it's not. They find out that this company doesn't
have phosphorus. Would any good white man in America would
do at that point, Thank God for this doctor. He
diagnoses her with a venereal disease and that regardless syphilis

(50:29):
radio syphilis, and so she's the first case to die
of radium, but they diagnose it as syphilis. Then more
women start to die in her group. And then I'm
gonna name this five people because they're the ones who
take her who formed the first course case, Keith to McDonald,
Eda Hussman, Albina, Albina Larise. Yes, that's them, Catherine Schab

(50:54):
and Grace Fryer. And in nineteen twenty seven they take
the US Radium Company in the court and this is
the first time that this has kind of happened, and
the Radium Company is like, no, this is not happening,
you know. And I'll give the Radium Company credit at
the beginning of their invention. I don't think that they
knew that it was poisonous.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
But they use the spill campaign and say that they're
trying to buy the company.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Okay, So what they do is they get their own
doctor at first, and they say we're gonna have our
own doctor check on these girls. So he runs, Uh,
it's actually doctor doctor Frederick Flynn, and he's hired by

(51:38):
the US radium company to check on these women. And
he's doing these diagnoses on him and he's saying, they're fine.
There's there's no radium poisoning. What's happening to them is
probably because of you know, how they grew up. They're
probably inbred or whatever. And and so this guy is
clearing all these women for work. We later find out

(52:00):
he's not a doctor of medicine. He's a doctor of philosophy,
so he he he.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Won't to similarly, how to until a man got exposed.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
It wasn't until another doctor died or another scientist died,
and then they started to be like, okay, then we
have a problem. But even then the company denied it
and the women had to fight it, and the women
it's fucked up because you're we're talking about women that
could barely walk because their hips are broken. There's women
whose back breaks from just the weight of her upper body.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Because crazy. Yeah, Well, watching another video on these women's
what are the comments that had the most likes was
thanks Trump, ah bro. And then the comments were like

(52:48):
one of the comments, we're bro, you're not even there. Bro,
We're there. Bro. He got rid of he's trying to
get rid of the FDA, he's trying to get rid of,
Oh my god, the other stuff. We're gonna go back
to tiny. They're going to be people testing dynamite with
their hands.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Here's the big is that we will go a little backwards.
But I think we know now that not to put
glowing things in our mouth. I think we know now
not to put a chemical in our mouth. I think
there's like a certain bit of knowledge that we have
more than we did before. But that's not the same
who knows, dude. But that's the thing is, so that
these women are dying. And so these women, these five

(53:25):
women who are pretty much fucked up, they go and
seek out an outside doctor to perform and they find
the drinkers Cecil and Katherine Drinker, who completed.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
His study through the rain.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
They approached the Radium companies said we want to do
a real study on a medical study on these women
and and we'll do the results with you cooperatively. So
the company was like, great, we'll pay for it. And
so they pay for the study and they find out
that that it is that the women have sixteen times
the sorry ha ha ha, sixteen h hundred times the

(54:00):
amount of radiation a human body can have. So like
you can eat you you consume radiation every day almost
way or another. Like bananas have a bit more radiation
than most food products.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
But the.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
What's the what's the product in banana called potassium? Potassium
is a.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Is a radio is a radioactive product, and when you
eat it, your body consumes it, but it breaks but
the way that it breaks down, it doesn't affect you.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
You'd have to eat like, I don't know, like three
hundred bananas in order to be affected by it, like
just a little bit. But but that's okay. So think
of three hundred bananas to where you get one one
like one like blip of radiation.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Right, this is hilarious. This is not real.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
But but now now times that buys Yeah, that's kind
of what they were.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Doing, but not sharp. But that's what happened.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Look yeah, yep, yep, yeah, that's the guy making all
the money.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Then no ye arrested. Nobody got arrested. Sorry, no one
got arrested. Nobody got in trouble for this.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Shouldn't that video somebody wrote, thank you Obama.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Fuck well there you.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Uh so anyway, Yeah, so the drinkers make this thing
and they go, yeah, these women have sixteen hundred times
the amount of radiation coming out of their breath. But
the again, the company, the company hides it. The company
fights this all the way to the end until a
guy gets in, a lawyer by the name of Alex Barry,

(55:46):
and then he gets involved. Finally, the company relinquishes ten
thousand dollars to each woman, rewards them ten thousand dollars,
which is like one hundred and forty thousand dollars in
our time or something, which isn't a lot of money,
and then eight hundred dollars a year, which is like
ten thousand dollars a year for the medical expenses. None
of these women, all these women who sued in nineteen

(56:10):
twenty seven, died by nineteen thirty. All five of the
women who filed the lawsuit died by nineteen thirty. Now,
now you think we have established legal precedence, precedents and everything. No,
the US Radium Company decides to settle, and one of
the parts of their settlement was to make sure that

(56:30):
this lawyer who helps them doesn't involve himself in any
more radium cases, so he's no longer allowed to fight. Okay,
Now you have other companies that come up, and then
we're talking.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
About they regulations. Huh they wrote down regulation. There's no regulation.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Still, there's no like, there's really no precedence for this. Still,
like they sue, they settle out of court.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
So usually when they do have a regulation because something
bad happened already. Right, yeah, which is a big quote
that I don't know a guy said in that video,
buts somebody wrote it down and a bunch of people
that kept repeating it on that video has said that
radi regulations are written in blood.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Bro. That is fucking because honestly.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Something shitty have to happen before you finally take notice
and go, you know what, man, you can have these
ladies be sucking up this fucking ink. Right.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Well, that's what happens is that the radium dial company
in Ottawa opens up and uses the same practice. Now
we're talking, we're talking in Canada, Ottawa, Illinois. Sorry, so
this one opens up. This is during the Great Depression. Okay,
Now this after War One, there's Great Depression previous to

(57:47):
World War two, and these women are reading about what's happening,
and this company in Ottawa is saying, Nope, you guys
are good, you guys are okay, you guys are fine.
This is a completely safe product and it's not even
mixed with the same products that they were in New Jersey,
so don't worry about it. But women are dying in
this company, and at some point the women aren't buying it.

(58:08):
But now we're stuck in the Great Depression. This is
where this gets even more sad is because you have
women knowing that this is going to kill them. You
have women standing on the stand saying like at some point,
the judge who feels sorry for these women, says, what
is there out there to help these women? Like, what's
going to save these women? And the doctor says, there's

(58:32):
nothing that's going to save these women.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
They're doomed.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
They're going to die, Like every woman on the stand
is going to die within two to three years of
talking to us right now. And even those women that
sued that company, they got ten thousand dollars for all
five of them, So that first group of people got
ten thousand dollars each, but this company got ten thousand
dollars for all five of them.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Right, But yeah, that company, or the Radium Dug Company
was established in Ottawail and Lloyd twenty two.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Right, Yes, And it was after that the lawsuit for
the for the radium the US Radium Company had had.
But the thing is is that these women have no choice.
It's the Great depression. You need a job, like people
are starving out there.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
The biggest client with a company in Peru, Illinois. I
didn't know the Peru Illinois. Yeah, I didn't know that either.
It's called West Westlock Clocks Corporation.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Well West Clock still exists to this day, but there's
a lot of radium dial West Clocks and then even
still like I had a West Clocks as a kid
growing up. It had glown the dark dials, but there
wasn't radium. Yeah, that's West Clocks right there. Anybody had
that one on the lower left. I mean every person
in the world in the eighties and nineties had that
fucking alarm clock on the lower left.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
But yeah, so all these are a radium, No, those
are not.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
That's just the company that existed. So yeah, this company
gets sued. These women all die, All these women die. Man,
the oldest victim lived to one hundred and five, but
she fought off six bouts of cancer and three tumors.
But this does help people in the end. There's huge

(01:00:11):
legislation that comes out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
And what's called the Occupational Disease Labor Law.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Yes, and it helps out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
It was written in what in blood? Okay, radium blood
radium regulations are written in what blood? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
And that's the thing is that I read at the
end of this book. The closing of this book was
basically that if it wasn't for these women and their bravery,
going to because that's the thing, man, is that you
got to remember, these women weren't just walking into court.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
At one point they had to There's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
A lady named Catherine Donaho that they had to pick
up and bring her in her bed and bring her
bed into court because they couldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Even although laborhood were dying, they couldn't even appear to court.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
They couldn't pick them up. Bro again, one lady died.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
They were like the they were like the mafia guy
for a casino, all old breathing tanks, right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Well, one of them, one of them, her back broke.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
It's like we're just sitting here and your back breaks,
like from the weight of her own body. Her back
just broke and they had to give her like a
metal spine, and and and again. The woman that they
brought in, Catherine Donahue, who died a few days later.
She when she died, they were the reason why they
had to bring her in her bed is because any

(01:01:25):
touch picking her up would have broken her bones.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
And that was the thing. Is that she wins this case.
The reason they came up with a word fragile.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Fuck maybe handle with care, but they so they so
what happens is while she's in court, she brings in
a box and she opens the box and she pulls
out her jaw like this is what has happened to me.
So they she wins the case. With that, they all
win the case.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
But everybody's jaw dropped to check this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Oh Jesus Christ, bro but they they the there's an
appeal that lasted another six months a couple more time. Dude,
this company was doing things like taking their experts and
flying them out of giving them vacations so that they
would leave the country during the court case, and they
were basically waiting for the women to die. So that

(01:02:18):
they didn't have a lawsuit, you know, and they were
using stipulations like, hey, if you have hadn't had an injury,
and five if you had, like because there was a
law that said if you had an injury at work
and five months you get compensation. But these women were
like coming back years later and saying that they were
dying from this shit, and so like this company was
just fucking them over and over and over. But you know,

(01:02:38):
like that's the thing, man, is like in the end,
if it wasn't for these women, and I say say
it not lightly, these are brave women because you know,
there's no voting, bro. This is like pre suffrage movement,
and they come in they fight a case that's completely
against them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
They're also both broken.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
These women are literally dying, dude, and they've like some
of them died during the case. And they go in
there and they fight. But if it wasn't for these women,
there wouldn't be no laws for us protecting us from work,
helping us with the conversation where you do get injured
at work. The other thing is the protection for uranium
became a big deal, and our nuclear programs and everything

(01:03:22):
has sprunk from this because of the safety around it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Crazy man, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
So like the US Radium Company lasted till all the
way up till two thousand and seven.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Well, they changed names after a while and everything. But
once they were cleared out, New Jersey spent fucking like
something like forty eight million dollars trying to clean up
after them. They had to dig all the way down
fifteen feet.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Read about how how the lawyer or somebody dug out
that that damaged body.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
And his bones were glowing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Yeah, but they met with to did this something that
they took it out to the site, to the one
in court.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Yes, yeah, yeah, they took it out. There's so one
of the cases. Bro this is how long again, the
period of time that it stays in your body is
sixteen hundred years. So the first lady Molly Maggia, when
her jaw had been pulled out, the doctor kept it
in a little baggy and doctors do this, so it's
not a weird thing, but doctors, you know, to study

(01:04:27):
it every now and then, and he'd put it in
a drawer. This is kind of one of the first
ways they found out that this was happening because he
put it in a drawer with all these other bones
in his in his desk, right. So he's sitting there
one day going over some X rays of a regular
patient and another patient walks in. So he has to

(01:04:48):
take the X rays and put them in the drawer
and he talks to the patient, says goodbye. That patient leaves,
takes the X rays back out. All the X rays
are blank because of how contaminated her jaw was. So
these women were fucked up, bro, fucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
You think that I know that with women are lay sued, right, Yeah,
you know. It was like another doctor somewhere of scientists
actually like gathering up pieces of what's going on with
these ladies and later on used it to to know
what's going to happen if you drop something like this
on a bunch of people all at once.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Well, yeah, that was the thing, is that this was
creating goar weapons. Well, I mean, first of all, the
safety of having to deal with radiation led to the
advancement of nuclearization of weapons of energy because.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
We just didn't know how to use it. We didn't
know what we were dealing, didn't know what to do
with it. Yeah, we didn't know what to do with it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
But we found out, oh, this ship does a lot
of damage, and then we and then further and more.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
I don't know if it necessarily led to actual nuclear weapons,
but the safety around it is what led to the
science that developed weapons. And so like a lot of
advance came out of what these women did. But mostly
we're in the workplace safety. How we treated peoples that
got sick. Yeah, like making sure you had the right equipment,

(01:06:10):
stuff like that. Child labor laws came into question over this.
So even though these women died in a very heinous way,
their legacy lives on through the way that we live
safely now, the way that we treat each other at work,
the way that our work is liable for us.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
There's no longer any.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Way a business can get out of if you get sick,
no matter what point in time you realize you're sick.
Like before, if you let's say you work for a
company and you got cancer from using for working with
their products, but it's five, six, ten years later down
the line, you have you come to the business and go, hey,
you guys gave me cancer ten years ago. Back then
they could just be like, oh, fuck yourself, it's too

(01:06:50):
late now. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you
got sick from work, doesn't matter when where the company's
liable for your safety.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
That's one of the that's one of the isn't why
there's no smoking in the workplace. A lot of people
were getting cancer from people smoking in a workplace, right, Yeah,
And that took for years year. Bro secretary who never
who never smoked, got lung cancer from the box although

(01:07:18):
smoking around second hand smoke, we.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Were finding out. I remember that was like in the eighties.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
And then people were dying from second hand from they
were dying from cigarettes were leading to cancer. Bro at
the time, and you know what they did. They started
Lucky Strike said we use filters, right, we're making it safer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
But there was a time that they were like, hey man,
you know what's healthy for you A good camel cigarette.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
And then you know there's I think there's Rockwell paintings
where doctors have a cigarette hanging out of their mouth
and they're working on someone, you know, and there's actually
a picture of one of the famous scientists.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
When the aultebra little kid. I used to know some
people like hold that they hold the bread for the priest.
I used to hold an ashtray? Is that real that
the the priest was Polish? He's also, Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
My god, bro was his name Skladowski?

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
It was box Ski, Chomsky, Tomsky hissue for food? What
else you learn? Bro? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
That's about it. This was a pretty up and down project.
The book is called Radium Girls, the one that I
read for it. I only got to read one book
this time, and then I watched a ton of videos.
The book is fifteen hours, and at first I was like,
how do you write fifteen hours about this?

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
There's so much. There's a lot more that we left out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
There's a lot of lead. There's two move There's a
movie that came on in two thousand and seven or
called ray Girls. Watch it also the play called Radium Girl.
I'm gonna watch the movie. I'm gonna watch the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
I'm still really You know what's funny is because we'll
do a project like this, right, I'm still watching stuff
in my off time from Hawaii, and then now I'm
gonna be watching Radium stuff for a while. It's it's
every time once in a while, Like I mean, we
pick up things and we and I read about them.

(01:09:27):
But some of them are really fascinating to me, and
this one was really fascinating.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
So it was a it was a quick, easy read.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
That book was one of the easiest books I've ever
had to read because it was so like, holy fuck,
I can't believe this is happening.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
I thumbed upon it on a TikTok story about did
you guys know the un Store story of the Radium Girls.
I love Catherine the lady.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Oh Catherine Donnie here. That lady had it the worst man,
because she was like meant to be like there the
girl that was like, this isn't happening to us. And
then all of a sudden she gets sick and she
becomes deathly ill.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
And I mean she hangs in.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
There because that's the thing is that she needs to
hang in there to testify in order for them to
get their money. And she hangs in there like literally
to the last day, like day after they win, she dies.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Look up that that polonium p O l.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
O polish is this polish uranium?

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
This is the one that she came up with, polonium
polonium kat where it is polonium eighty four. Wonder how
it works. But to the wiki what is it? She
came up with that curry. Colonium are rarely highly radiorizing
chemical element with the symbol POE atomic number six eighty four.
It is a silver gray metal and isotopes radioactive with

(01:10:50):
no stable ones. Colonium to ten is the most common
and well known isotope, characterized about short half of life
about one heeld and thirty eight days, great potential alpha
amnian properties and found in trade. A month of uranium
wars and can be produced in nuclear reactors. A polonium
has some industrial application. It's also highly toxic and can

(01:11:14):
be lethal. Jet invented that lady. Wow, she invented the
souther that killed her.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Thank you, Mary Carrie. She died from it very heinously
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
You know the guy that that When I became vegan,
it was a book called but but it's a book
called can you look it up? It's called up and
the carnal bores Dilemma? Can my brother angel broke? Yeah? Bro?
That guy right there, stop, he was he was he was.

(01:11:50):
He was shot with a poisonous planonium. Bro Yeah, he
was shot. He was killed by that. Just just a
few milli grands of the highly radioactive I just fout
in arrow fast body is little dose and they shouted
at him at this bro like assassinated him with that,
bro and it slowly killed him. That guy was he

(01:12:11):
was writing batch about but get the fun out of yea.
He were running back to a booted and he was
coming out of the of a cop. Yeah, he was
coming out of England. Bro. He was coming out of
the he was coming out of somewhere. Bro. And then
there's there's some guy I have the book were we

(01:12:32):
want to read about? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
All they put in was assassinated with polonium and he
came up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Yeah, Bro, he was, he was, he was. He was
speaking and writing bachtuff about Putin and in Russia and
he left and he were living under in England and
he would coming out of the embassy and then somebody
like grabbed them and just went at this and he died.

(01:12:58):
So he started a little reading and they didn't even
know why he died. Later on looking up on other
assassinations by polonium, you can see a lot of them, bro,
and just a you just prayed at this broke a
newspaper or but this guy was injected by it. I

(01:13:19):
think or something.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
I think he's the only one, the only one. Yeah,
he's the only one. But what a what a very
intelligent way to murder someone.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Wow. Also, when I was watching this movie one time, Bro,
there were these people that were affected by they were
toxic by radiation. You know, they died somewhere. And these
terrorists they weren't somewhere, Bro, where their body was and
they dug them out and they put them in bag
and then released them in came. Yeah, man, polonium. Bro.

(01:13:51):
Now you know, Bro, somebody will hit somebody will hit
by it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Okay, well we know how to kill people now, either
make them paint.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
But that's what special death? Right? What a polodial cost?
That's a good question. Me. I hire a scientist to
make that some What is the cost of polonium? Want
him dead?

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Forty nine billion per gram? I find out how much
was used to kill that that Russian guy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Yeah, they had to use like a sliver of that.
A gram is forty nine billion.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Bro, A brow bro bulletin cheap?

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Oh my god, forty nine point two trillion per kilogram,
forty nine billion per gram per gram. I paid twenty
dollars a gram, Bro, four point.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Got quarrel ten micrograms bro or ten micrograms? And how
much is ten micrograms are polonium worths? Bro? How many? Ten?
How many?

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
How many micrograms are in a gram? So one million
micrograms in one gram? So if it's fourteen trillion?

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
No, no, no, no, how they used to kill that guy? Was
only fourteen grams?

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
The only ten micrograms? And so uh a gram has
a million micrograms in it. So if you do that
in the math is what fourteen trillion.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Per gram?

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
What is fourteen trillion divided by one million? It cost them?

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
Umm?

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Oh no, it's trying to bro find out how much
did yes, how much did they used to kill him?

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Holy fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
So I'm telling you stuck it with a grip. Find
out how much? How much? How must ten micrograms are
polonium costs? How must is ten grams of ten micrograms
of plutonium? Okay, well that's the thing is microgram it
is still he must have cost look at it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
So it's fourteen million per Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
It's still mostly it still costs a million to kill
this guy?

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Right, it costs It costs about From the calculations that
I'm doing on here. Math wise, it was about seven
million to kill him.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
It was in cheap ha homie, because it's here it is, Yeah,
what worth ten million? Yeah? Seven million, ten million, I'm
not that far off, bro, that whoever who they buy
it from, that's crazy, bro. So we learned a lot
today from radium.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
Yeah, and we learned a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
And we learned that here in twenty in the our century. Yeah,
that Lithos, that that little bit of letho polonium that
she invented was used to murder somebody. So just think
about it, man, Radium was way more and they were
put it in their mouth, and they were putting it
in their mouth and slowly killing each other.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Killed thousands, killed thousands of people.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
He got the big lead estimated he got He got
twenty micro brand bro. He died slowly.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Ten he got ten.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
He died, So he died like about a week.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
But also from what that said, it was ten times
the amount of a human, So that could have killed
nine more humans.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
Yeah, so anybody. He could have killed anybody around him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
It would have cost really it would if they wanted
to be frugal about it, they only needed to spend
a million dollars, but they really wanted to kill him,
so they gave him ten micrograms.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Somebody would make that and drop it somewhere. It would
have probably be the most expensive nuclear weapon the world.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
I think the half life though, can you look up
the half life of.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Polonium won't travel?

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Well, huh, It's the thing is I think you need
to deliver it right away. Half life is one hundred
and thirty eight point Yeah, so you got to deliver
that thing within one hundred and thirty eight days um
in order for it to kill somebody, and probably like
you need to do it on the on the larger
end of that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
But yeah, all right, that's polonium. Here it is, bro
you got it, radium growth, paintbrush, lips clock, radiation pain job.
That's a grill sheamer. Oh my goodness. All right, wait
to end the podcast. Man History for fools. You got it?
Radio girls, look it up. Thanks for watching. It's gonna

(01:18:10):
be a quiz because if we ever go live, it's
gonna be like a history history game show.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Oh yeah, we should do it live.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
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EP 80 - The Tragedy of the Radium Girls

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