September 28, 2025 • 67 mins
In this episode of History for Foos, Felipe and Butch dive deep into the rich, layered history of Boyle Heights — once known as the “Ellis Island of the West.” They explore its Jewish roots, cultural diversity, redlining, and how freeways reshaped the neighborhood. From pastrami traditions to community resilience, the guys bring humor and insight to a story that shaped Los Angeles. Follow Felipe - instagram.com/felipeesparzacomedian/?hl=en Follow Butch - instagram.com/ButchEscobar (IG and TT Theme music (Intro and Outro) - by IkeReatorBeatz Hear about Felipe's tour dates, new merch drops & more by signing up @ http://felipesworld.com Felipe Esparza is a comedian and actor, known for his stand-up specials, “They’re Not Gonna Laugh at You”, “Translate This”, and his latest dual-release on Netflix, “Bad Decisions/Malas Decisiones” (2 different performances in two languages), his recurring appearances on Netflix’s “Gentefied”, NBC’s “Superstore” and Adultswim’s “The Eric Andre Show”, as well as winning “Last Comic Standing” (2010), and his popular podcast called “What’s Up Fool?”. Felipe continues to sell out live stand-up shows in comedy clubs and theaters around the country.
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Speaker 2 (02:18):
Anyways, the weather started getting rough, but the tiny ship
was tough.
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Speaker 2 (02:32):
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Steve rick Wright. He was a regular, paid regular the
comedy store in the eighties and the nineties, and he
fell in love and moved to Europe and he took close.
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to imagine another song and he'll start playing all he
started playing a song like this, and then he'll take
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that same beat and turning into punk rock music new wave,
and then and then all the way. That guy, that guy, Bro,
there's no footage of him anywhere. I'll play that play
that bro, have him, I play it bro.
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Speaker 4 (03:53):
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the end. He sits around. He he wanted to see time.
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when she sits around the house, she really sends around
the house. Honey, you break a polar springle you do
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Speaker 3 (04:48):
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Speaker 3 (04:57):
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Who's there?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It is the police police come back that day. That
was good. A new Diamond impressions.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Dude, that is with But that's the is that the
joke that like Neil Diamond could sing anything, because that's
pretty because like right now you're just kind of proving
that point. That's hilarious, dude. There there, and that's what
you did with the Gilligan song.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, he's told clothe the Gilligan song.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Okay, I should find it. Ohag Island fell in love,
he fell in love, moved to Europe. You know what, dude,
anything could take a.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Down somewhere, chilling, bro. Anything can take.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
A comedian down, from fucking drugs and death to fucking
falling in love. I remember, uh uh uh jay Leno,
I was reading a book called Comic Insights by AJ Franklin.
Check that book out, you guys. It's a really good
book if you're interested in comedy. And Jay Leno was like,
anything could take out a comedian from drugs to falling
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in love. And I was like, word to your motherfucking mama,
that is so true, dude, a great comic. We're talking
about him years later probably having the best life ever.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You know, here's to do a thing where he will
go like this, that song by the Running Throne song
Benet anyway, he'll do like a riff song and then
he'll show you that that riff could be anything that
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just rock right, they'll just do He'll be like a
rock rift. He'll do the soul Man, the song alm
a soul man pleased to meet you forgotten? Who's that?
Oh wow wow?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Oh he's still out there doing it. He's still out
Oh dope, get around, can't get around.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I'm thinking of harder competitions.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
That's great, that's great.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Ron Stewart, you want to my body? You think him
sex and something with you?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
All right to Vienna.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Is now.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
HUSU do a joke bro where he will go at
this like he was about to do it, starts a
song the song of soul Man. Okay, done done, and
you know, a'm so man. You know there's a rip
before it starts, putting it in and then but this
thinking so mad, he will say, oh tel you know
the yellow break.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Oh he too put in a different songs. It's really brilliant.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
The funny and they started playing like a rock and
roll and then punk and then he'll go to a
Green Day song. It's funny how music people say music
always changing, but always sound the same.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It does, yeah, it does.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
But those three rials from SKA, he took him all
the way to Green Day. Wow, the same beat. He
just whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, it's upbeats right, it's up eeats. Yeah. Wow. Seven
seventy weeks ago last year here he had a show.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
We're at.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
The throck Morton, the talk Morton. I'll be at the
trock Morton on the thirtieth. You guys, check me out.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You have shows coming up this week or next week.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
This week I have shows on this weld.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I know. I'll be a spoke. I just got back
from Spokan.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Sol Oh that's right, Yeah, that's right already.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, you bro.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Great there where you at? But I will be at
the throck Morton. I was working at the Davis. I
was working at a bar in Davis Brewery. I'm sure
it was great. Just come see me at the Throckmorton,
you guys. I'll be there. That's a great theater by
the way. It's a historical theater in Mill Valley and
(09:46):
it's run by a wonderful lady. But yeah, let's go
out of history there.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
My dog has please.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I like, I like when you play the ukulele. You're
very it's very uh, very melodic. What do we what
are we gonna what are we gonna talk about today?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
This week, we're gonna talk about a place called pardon something.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Pardon something.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, let me see here, you shut up.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
This is Mariachi Plaza, but more importantly, this is Boyle Heights. Now,
this area is deep.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
And rich in history.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
There we go. We're gonna take this back way back
to eighteen thirty five known as Heights. You're right, the.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Blanco people, the White Blue Buffs, the White Bluffs, boil Hides,
which was belonged to Spain in eighteen thirty.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
That's right, in eighteen thirty it belonged to Spain. And
that's only seventy years before the era, the era that
we're about to talk about. That's not a lot of time,
because a lot happens in that short amount of time
between it. It becomes it's that and becomes something else.
You know, we have the the Treaty of Hildalgo. That happens,
(11:33):
and then America comes in and and there's Spanish landowners.
There's I think there's only supposed to be three or
four Spanish landowners in Los Angeles at the time. Yes,
and dude, they had a shitload of land and and
these these American people come in and they say, this
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is our land now, and and they do fairly in
their minds, fairly, but it's not fair at all.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Give.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
But also I don't give a fuck because it's Spaniards.
But they give, they give them some of their property back,
but they take away a fuck tone and part of
that land, uh was given back? Let me see too,
the Lugos. So the Lugo family owned. No, I think
(12:28):
it's the Lugo family. I could be wrong. This is
me because if the part of this too is that
there's not a lot of books written on this subject,
so I had to like tie to dive in on
and then it could be Lopez. Again, don't fucking do
your homework on this fucking podcast. Okay, Well, no matter what,
it ended up being purchased by now it's namesake Andrew Boyle,
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and it was twenty two acres of land and it
was considered East Los Angeles. It wasn't even considered East
Los Angeles had all these names. But we're talking about
the eastern part of Los Angeles, right, And here's something
that I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Know about Angeles.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Here's the thing I don't know about me pay that
I think you need to educate me on a little
bit before people attack me in comments. What's the difference
between East LA and Boyle Heights, Because because you can't
say I live in East LA if you live in
Boyle Heights. I've learned that one.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Wow, East Lay was a Jewish community. I'll tell you
this right in Rooseve and Garfield High School. Yes, that's
East La rivalry right. Supposedly a lot of Germans settled
in that area by Garfield and there was a rivalry
between the German So.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
This rivalry was long before Latinos had taken over way before.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
But it depends where we're at now. Me personally, since
I grew up in Fourth Street and Boyle Street, I
grew up south of Fourth and Boyle Street, which is
Picco Gardens projects named after Pio Pico and Pinko, a
Lisso Aliso village and new Also, we considered the border
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of Boyle Heights to end on First and Lorena.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
First and Lorena. Yeah, that's kind of where I was.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
That's where I was first and Lorena right there by
the snow Cone place. That's not there no more. Right
there by the snow Cone place. They to have the
the east the big Boyle Heights fucking snow Cone, that
place with a border. Now, if you want to take
it down to the over there, if you want to
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go to Boyle Heights where Soda Street and Washington is
right and Whittier East LA ends again, it is right
there on Lorena and Whittier.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I think, I know, I think I know what you're
talking about. That's kind of a little bit beyond where
they filmed blood and Blood out right.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And if you're going over there by easter Lake College,
easter Lake College area and that one right there, man
East LA begins on Floral on Floral Floral Street, Okay,
Eastern and Floral area, because that was where the thirty
one bus takes it to rim Paul and did Mark
(15:26):
did something And that's where the boat that's where that
that's first threet area.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
So when you're talking about the Germans took over, and
then you're talking about the Germans and then other Eastern Europeans.
We're not talking about actually German people. We're talking about
German people. We're talking about Jewish German people.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Right. I don't even know how many people settle because
look up a thorough in East la there's a Serbian cemetery, right.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And that's the thing, is ah, so in eighteen fifties,
in eighteen fifty not Andrew Boyle, where do I have here?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
It is?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Sorry about my notes obviously, Okay, eighteen eighty one, the
Czar Alexander the second was assassinated in Russia, so Russians.
So after that happened, Russians blamed the Jews and then
started treating him like shit and ostracizing. And when other
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countries were nationalizing and forming, they were nationalizing their Jewish
communities along with it. This is not this is one
of the only groups of people was these Eastern Europeans
that were fleeing Russian areas because they were being persecuted
and killed, and so they were coming to the East coast.
And that's where you see the Jewish population pop up
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on the East coast around the eighteen eighties. Because what
we're talking about time period we're talking about is nineteen hundred.
So when the Jewish settlers get to LA they're not
actually mean fleeing that anymore, but they are fleeing some
other injustices and stuff like that. One of the first
places they hit is San Francisco. And when you talk
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about the gold Rush, which I think we should do
an episode on the gold Rush, but there is should
be an emphasis on the Jewish population there, because I
don't think people talk about it. And I didn't realize this,
but like fucking the Jewish people supplied the miners during
with copper, with copper, with with tools. Levi Strauss, you know,
(17:31):
I didn't even realize Strauss and Company is a German
Jewish person who started the Levi Company, which we all
know who they are at this point.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You know they they when they when they started the
gold Rush. I remember we talked about how everybody that
guy males, that guy from the from the cereal he
was stelling tools, yes, and that's who was stilling Levi's
that's right. And so then everybody working with khakis, right right.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I know, they were working in there like nice outfits
and shit, and he started to give them some rugged wear.
So so the eighteen forty nine happens eighteen fifties eighteen eighties.
The Jews that are coming from the East coast are
now moving towards the west coast. And then the gold
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rush starts to come to an end, and then there
starts to be Jewish. You start to see Jewish settlers
in in Los Angeles, and in nineteen hundred the population
of LA is one hundred thousand. It's making it is
like one of the big becoming one of the biggest
cities in the country. Two thousand, five hundred of those
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were Jewish people, and they start to make their way
to boil hides. Why to boil heids? Why did Because
that's the other thing is, dude, here's the other thing
that I didn't realize when you told because you've we've
talked about this a lot. You know, you're very proud
of your neighborhood, and so you told me a lot
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of things about how like cancers started there and like
the Jewish population got there. In my mind, what I
thought was happening was that the Jewish people were there
first then handed the community over to Hispanic people and
stuff like that. But actually they were intermingled with Hispanics
already there like right, there was already like a lot
of Mexican people, there was a lot of black people.
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There's a lot of Japanese, Chinese, Albanian.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
At a lot of California. They were like they had
this big plan. I'm pretty sure that there was a
big plan to make Los Angeles or California like New York. Right.
So when now the Jews came, they had their own
little neighborhood right there, and also America America California trying
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to be very Protestant because they were telling people, Remember
we were talking move out here, very water.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
We did that during the water Wars episode.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Come to California. You know, you could be Christian over here.
But not not not mentioned that there were are Catholics
here bro right, are you gonna say that when there's
already a big ass church that the standard left right
people still worship it.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
So when the Jews came, those who had nowhere else
to go but Boyle Heights, right, and no one else
will give them homes but hes right, right, boy Heights
became a place where if you're a person of color,
we'll tell you a home here. Yeah, you can't leave
anywhere or they couldn't they couldn't get homes to live
anywhere else.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I know that this was happening in the Bay Area
as well.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Red lightning.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
It's called redlining or urban urban renewal, restrictive restrictive covenants,
restrictive racial covenants. Yeah, and basically saying like you can't
sell the black people. Redlining was like a way of
raiding a neighborhood. And they would do things like because
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Bull Heights didn't have a lot of access to water,
they would do things like, well, we're gonna rate it low,
and that way people wouldn't buy They you couldn't get
loans to like live there. You can buy property, like
the property value like plummets, and so it makes it
so that like basically the only people who are going
to live there are poor people and people who can
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get like rights to live there.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
No, there wasn't one. There was also like no, they
couldn't get loans. So Soto Street became like the hub
for the for the neighborhood. Huh. The Soto Street was
like Broadway Avenue. Soto Street was like you know, man, man,
you know that that big street in New York Times Square.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Oh yeah, Broadway Broadway. Yeah, it's Broadway.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So Soto Street, Like if you look at total Street,
Soto Street has a lot of bus stops, and I
would wonder what street has so many bus stops to
all the streets because it is a happening place back
in the thirties. The hollow Back Junior High School is
on Soto Street to get there. Roosevelt High School is
there to get there, Bridge Street Elementary School, Bred Street,
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that the Soda Street Elementary schools on Soto. These are
all places you could get to by a bus, you know,
right now and it's happening. There's a McDonald's, Sears, Sears, Rodbucks.
You could get through it through Sola Street.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Dude, I meant to ask you this at some point.
So you worked at Sears, you worked at that big Sears.
Yeah in LA. Can you throw that up there just
so people understand what this is. I want urban exploring, Okay,
So I so badly want to go in there, and
I know that. So there's so many videos of people
getting caught going in there now because all these new
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YouTubers that are doing every and exploring are so this
is an abandoned sears it and I do believe that
the first floor is the part of it still open.
You could go in and purchase something from the catalog.
In one little area of this building with the rest.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Is see up there were the SSR.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yeah, you've been all the way up there. Holy fuck
you up.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
There where the building, the whole building was, the whole
air conditioning was by a swamp cooler.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Oh no way, even until nineteen eighty nine. That's a
the Namass building, dude.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah. So when the eighty seven earthquake cave, the swamp
colder broke and the water came down like a hurricane
bro down, the shadow.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Just fucking and everything up. That's with all the water damage.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So my job was to get all the boards on
and clean them. Bro.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
So you were working there during that time, Yeah, okay,
So I watch uh these guys who break into abandoned
buildings all the time, and I've probably seen like three
or four people who've broken into the Seers building and
that exact flory you're talking about. At least two of
the people. I've watched them like there was some kind
of water damage here, and they showed like the the
maps that were on the wall had like, uh water
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level like uh, stains and stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
That's when that scene broke.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
So Okay, this is what I was gonna ask you.
There was a train that went directly from Boyle Heights
non stop to the Seers right, yeah. Did you take
that train too?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
No? No, by that's the normal trains.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Okay, there was no more trains. Okay, all right. That's
what I was wondering, is how long did that train
because there was I know that at the time.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
There's the train Steers will not that's just the building
right where that building you know people do Amazon purchased this? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, that that was the main distribution.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
That's how that place worked, right, Yes, Like if you
had a if you you live in southern California or
the West Coast, and you got a catalog and you
filled it out and you melted a seers Seers there,
they had a they had a mail room, and that
mail room will received your your catalog and then they'll
fill it out and another paper and then I'll send
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a paper upstairs to the to the people that we
were little shopping carts and they're like Uber eats shopping.
There was a shopping cart and they're grabbing your your
not just your order, but so another's order and they're
putting in a bath.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
So this is like an Amazon back then. This is
like the hit of their time.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
But they didn't change with the times. They could have
stood in business if they could have just changed their model.
There have so many executives and shareholders to keep happy
that they just they couldn't come in an agreement. But
the way it works is just the way Amazon works.
They are everything that you need they needed to sell
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was already there, washing machines, everything, Okay, right there in
that building. You don't see it. But if you go east,
if you go west, if you go west of the building,
right there, those factories where all the ship was being
it's still there. If you had factory that they owned, okay.
And then over there on six o there even on
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over there on Whittier past Wadier, they had a mind
the warehouse where they where they held all their fucking furniture. Bro.
So if you wanted furniture, the guy would go like
this and somebody will go pick it up.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
And they also had across the street their own their
own pet.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Boys, their own yeah, their own auto shop. Okay, if
you have to, because if you have if you bought
a car and you got to see a Roebucks auto
insurance your car, you get service there. That's see. That's
that's the thing, man, is they were way ahead of
their time. I do remember my mom. My mom had
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auto repair insurance through Sears and Roebuck and we would
take it. Oh no, we had Montgomery Wards. Never mind,
but Montgomery Wards was doing the same thing back then.
And but but so again, I watched a lot of
these guys breaking and one of the videos that I
saw is they break into what I think is an
area you probably worked in. And they showed a map
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and it was like and the map basically said that
this was the West Coast distribution area all the way
up to the Midwest and lower and the like Southwest states,
and then there was a Midwest hub which wasn't as big,
and then there was an East Coast hub which was
almost as big. But this was like the largest facility
(27:37):
that they ever had. This thing is huge, you guys like,
you can look it up on your own on YouTube.
But it's very interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Because it employed so many people.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Is this this is because this is not in Boyle Heights, right,
it is in Boyle Heights okay and so like. But yeah,
I was interested more in the train and who they employed,
because you know, we are talking about the Jewish people
in Boyle Heights.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I went urban exploring in side one time to that
Sears and I saw all the way on top, Bro,
way on top by the letters are the s was.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
That, Yeah, this is the building, this is inside that.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, Bro. I went further than there. I went now
further than they are, Bro. I was over there by
what the letters are and that's been cleaned up. That's clean. Bro.
I was there when it was all dirty, whatever they
were seeing. I saw it like the way.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Before Wait you broke in? Did you break into your
working there? Before? After you worked there? Did you ever
go and see it?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Know that all that the other showing is like was open.
There were people there. But I went further up bro
where there was nobody there in the nineteen nineties, and
I saw all the badges, bro, from the people that
worked in the sixties. Wow, all the information for like
their applications.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Wow, this is the Chicago one right, Yeah, that's the
Chicago one.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Okay, that's different. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah. Do you thin get how good Felipe knows that
ship dude.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
The wonderful boy no escalator. Bro.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I was saying them all, that doesn't look like the
inside that I've seen, because like if you look up
the one in LA, they show the top and it's
like wild in there. Bro I would love to go
in there. If anybody knows how to legally get in there,
please let me know and I'll make a video about it.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
They just saw good popcorn?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Did that place? Did a lot of the Jewish people
population work there as well? Because also the population we're
talking about when you think of Jewish people in LA,
we're not talking about you know, because there was also
a population that was running companies and.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
All right, man, this is a big question. Everybody asked,
how come we have so much postroomi because the Jewish
people are.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Left in Mexican neighborhoods.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, and that's what we have because you know, man,
the people might leave with the food left behind, well
not so much pastrami and l a that we don't
know what to do with it right now. Like there's
the hat, there's the hat, one of the.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Best jims ever.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Jim's Burgers Postrami. I wonder why Boyle his so much pastrami?
Is because of the Jews.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
It's because the Jews and left George people. The first
Canters Deli, so we think of when we think of
Canter's Deli in Los Angeles, I think it's the one
on Fairfax and uh and actually the original one was
Bowl Heights on what is now Caesar Chavis Avenue but
used to be Brooklyn Avenue.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
There's a synagogue and on Bread Street.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
That's the Breed Streets that's the largest that was the
largest synagogue in the country at some point in time,
I don't remember exactly when. And they're now actually they're
rebuilding it. They're really like, but that was the thing
is like there. So here's here's some points out of
Boyle Heights. Nineteen twenty four, Modern Hebrew School and Social Center,
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which became the Breed Oh no, that okay, anyway, nineteen thirty,
the Menora Center, nineteen eleven, the Hebrew Sheltering Association which
in and then nineteen oh two they had built the
caspart Coen Hospital, which later became Cedars and then later
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after that became Cedars Sinai. So that that started there.
Catchers Delhi opened in nineteen thirty one. Nineteen four Telematora
school which later in nineteen twelve became the Breeds Rereat Shool,
seventy five thousand members at its peak, you know. And
that's the thing, man, is like seventy five thousand Jewish
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people lived in la at the time. Thirty five of
that thirty five thousand of them, almost more than half.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Lived in Padrias said that they had their own gang too,
lived in Boyle Heights. Did they really have their Paldrias
said they had their own gang called the Landlords. That's
fucking if you look looking at them. Before the streets
called Brooklyn Avenue yea and named after Brooklyn right right
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and Brooklyn Avenue, they had a lot of delicate tessan
that were Jewish owned, and they have a lot of
Jewish bombs right placed it. But then they all moved
and they were replaced by taco stands and Chinese restaurants.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
But what about also the businesses at the time were
a lot of tailor uh and people who worked in clothing, right,
which started like I tried to find the cone.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
That was like all that stuff moved to the garment
district in downtown, right.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
And I tried to find the connection and I'm sure
there is because now the garment district, the people who
work on the clothing and the seamstresses, they're all they're
all Mexican.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Lady.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, man, And and I think this is okay. I
did read this. I heard this in one of the
podcasts that I was listening to, So I don't have
any verification of this evidence, but I'm almost sure that
this is the way it went. Was that the Jewish
community really worked with the Mexican community big time. Like
the there was there was a group of Mexicans called
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the Mutual Listas and the Mutual Lista has worked with
the with the I can't remember it was called the
like Civil Mutual Mutual Association or something like that, but
it was a bunch of Jewish people who got together
with money and and and and got money together for
people that there were people that were persecuted in other
parts of the country like Chicago and Cleveland to move
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to California and Mexican people were doing the same thing,
and they were like, hey, we should get together and
do this, and and at that point during that time,
they also voted in the first Mexican mayor of Los
Angeles over a Jewish mayor. Yeah, because Jewish people felt
like what's good what comes out of boil Heights is
good for boil Heights, and and so they But I
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believe that at some point they hired Mexican women to
work as their seamstresses in their factories. And that's why
to this day you still see a lot of Mexican
women working in fact in the seamstresses out here and
have their own businesses, like thriving businesses. If you drive
around parts of East LA and South Central, there's a
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lot of like sewing shop facility, like fixing facilities and stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
When I was doing a show one time at the
Comedy Magic Club, I met a lady I think she
graduated from my high school in nineteen forty. Holy fuck.
And then like I remember, somebody mentioned somebody said I
went to such as She said, I went to such
and such high school. She looked at them and said,
my condolences. Why she felt like our high school way better?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yeah, when high school is yours again.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
It was Roosevelt right, also the the the owner of
the Clippers. He went to road A high school. He's Jewish.
One of them in trouble saying no racist.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Oh yeah, Garcetti.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
No, that's that's that's the Italian mayor, the owner of
the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Okay, stop liking Instagram.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
What's his name? Donald Sterling. He went to road A
High School and his his ex, the girl you was
fooling around with, she went to roll Over High School too.
Oh wow, they kept it in the high school. Bro,
Look at that young, like how many years? A part
of how she went to high school in the eight nineties,
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I was gonna say, and he went in the forties. Good?
Speaker 3 (35:46):
You know what, Bro, that's Los Angeles right there in
that shell for you.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Guys, rough rider love man.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Look at that. How old that guy's out there getting?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
But that's funny. How they left behind spastrami.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, they left behind pastrami. They also left behind two cemeteries,
the Peace Memorial Park and where's the other cemetery called
Mount Zion? And the Peace Memorial Park is supposed to
be really really beautiful and has uh Henry Henry Einstein's
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buried there. Uh you know Albert Brooks's dad, Uh, Carl
Carl Lemley and Louis B.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Mayer.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Uh, all three Warner brothers were buried there, and uh, uh,
Curly and Shemp from the Three Stooges are buried there.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
You know, he'll grubber Boyle Heights. Two Abbot from aban
Constello really no costello, yeah a costello.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Wow. Mickey Cohen also ran his business out of there,
and so did Bugsy Seagull. They ran numbers running businesses
from a place called the Ebony Room Bar. Is that
still there? No, it's not there anymore, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
The funny man. How you see how they didn't really
care for that much for Boyle Heights that they were there,
built a whole freewheal above it, right, it was literally
a whole freeway above above Boil Heights.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I was watching someone.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Right through their neighborhood. They could have went through a
rich neighborhood, but it went through that name.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
That's what this guy said, is that this guy grew
up in Boyle Heights and he went to school in
the forties. Yeah, and he was a teacher at Roosevelt
during the fifties and sixties, and he was saying that
what fucked everything up was how the freeways they put
all the freeways through all these neighborhoods that cut everybody
out of the neighborhood, and so it kind of separated
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everybody from l A.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
And it changed the gang names too, Like how well
you know that Sleepy Lagoon right, that gang? Yeah, that
was that was cut off by the freeway and became white.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Is now it was sleepy Lagoon before.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, And I'm sorry maybe my wife and but all
the look up eastas I prefer freeway.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
I prefer white that it's over sleepy lagoon. Like this
doesn't sound as scary they.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Used to be. Like when when when Boyle hides Easter
LA Before the freeway, it used to be one big
neighborhood homes. It's the guy talking down with.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
A palm tree in the front yard, the camper, the boat,
temptingly close to the Los Angeles ghetto. In the fifties
and sixties, it became the Black American dream. Open housing
paved the way as middle class blacks flooded into the city.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
White see people never mentioned that, bro, But they have
a lot of black people too.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Oh they did a ship load bro black. Well, it
says forty different nationalities that dude, we're talking that.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I said yes to everybody, right, and then like and
then it was like Irish, like if you want to
like Irish people, they used to live in this other
section called Dogtown that they named the Dogtown and then
later on that became the dog Town projects. And then
it's sad because everybody talks about all these housing projects
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in East LA, but the Dogtown projects are probably the
ones that are located in the worst part of Los
Angeles because they're actually in downtown l A. Like, there's
no grocery store for this neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
It's a food desert.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
It's a food desert. No hospital, there's nothing. Bro, Like,
we're these people want to go to a grocery store,
they gonna drive to the to the suburbs of Lincoln Heights. Wow,
they look up Dogtown projects the o gt O.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
So the very first residential neighborhood like single housing unit
residential neighborhood like basically suburbs was.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Look right there, Bro, twenty two three bros to look
the same look real that ship? Oh wow, but they're
all brick the brick kind broy were They're old, Bro,
these are old projects. They haven't even remodeled them, they
haven't closed them down. It's the same. Look. There's no
buildings around there.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
People still living in them.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Huh wow, that's huge, man.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Go foward all the way forward to the end. Look
where the rat lible the rat they're downtown l A.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Oh yeah, that's right across the railroad.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Right there to the railroad. They have nothing.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Oh dude, they're like, uh east of me. Oh, I
know exactly at the end of China Town. Yes, I
know exactly where this is at Alta.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Now, So that was the Irish were allowed to live.
What what benefits do they have live in there, bro.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Other than the just cheap rent and to survived nothing?
Uh nothing. Well that's the thing, man is. That's what
I was gonna say, was that West l A was
the first home of the suburb, and and because of that,
all the factories were put on the eastern side of
la which is why the housing was cheap. And nobody
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wanted to live there because it was just fucking factories
and fucked up shit. But the people of Boyl Heights
were like, we'll live there, and they moved in and
they developed bridges and waterways and places, you know, like things,
you know, like things of their own. In nineteen forty eight,
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though covenants were deemed not constitutional, covenants were like, you
can't live here because you're black bo you know, straight
up like we do not. This neighborhood will not sell
houses to black people. You cannot sell your house to
a black person in this neighborhood. I didn't get to
talk about it during the Venice Beach history when we
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did the history of Oil and Jennie Beach. But the
guy who created Venice Beach, his driver was a black guy.
Like he loved everybody he wasn't, you know. And at
that time, huh yes, what was his name, Abbot Kenny.
So Abbot Kenny loved everybody. He didn't He was a
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really different white dude in that time where he didn't
give a fuck about your race. So he hired black people.
Like the main architect of Venice Beach is a black guy. Anyway,
he dies, he leaves his uh part of his land
and his house to a black family. And at the time,
they wouldn't let black people there. There was housing covenants
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in Venice Beach that wouldn't allow black people to live there.
So this guy literally had to pick up this fucking house,
dismantle it, and move it to a black part of town. Nearby.
Uh nearby Venice Beach, and so housing covenants were a
real thing. You cannot it is illegal, Like sure, go ahead,
sell that to a black person, watch us, let that
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motherfucker move in. So they weren't doing that. And then
in nineteen forty eight, uh, housing covenants were listed and
that allowed Jewish people because the thing was too man is.
I thought about this too, because like, I didn't know
Jewish people were Jewish people until I was an older person.
In my mind and the way I grew up, my
mom would call them white people. We had Jewish people
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living in our neighborhood, and we had Jewish people that
ran things and did things, but my mom never called
them Jews or those Jewish people. She'd be like, those
fucking white people did this, like fucking white And so
growing up, I thought they were all my Jewish friends
and people. I knew they were white people to me.
And and the thing is is, you go, well, how come,
how the fuck do you know the difference? But when
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you're talking about if we're going to fast forward today,
let's say there was housing covenants and you have a
house in Van Eyes, that's probably about I don't know,
seven hundred and fifty thousand to a million dollars with
the houses probably cost around here. You have you have,
you know, people who've been ostracized put on uh places
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where they're good at their genocides, they're moving here, they're
fleeing and even at this time in Chicago and Cleveland,
which is why Jews started coming to the West coast
because of persecution, because people keep blaming these people for
fucked up shit, and so even though right, but even
though they're able to probably buy a house and pass
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his wife, they're not. You're not gonna fucking take that risk.
You're not gonna fucking take a risk of buy a
house for fucking five hundred thousand dollars seven hundred thousand
dollars at their time, which probably was like probably a
few thousand. But you're not gonna take that risk. And
then one of your nosey ass motherfucking neighbors finds out
your jew and then they have a fucking town hall
(44:46):
meeting and you lose your house. You just get kicked
out of your home. Bro. So uh, that's the thing
is it's fucked up and for for black and brown people.
You know, I don't want to make it sound like
it was easier, but the choice was easy. You can't
live here, so you're gonna live in fucking blah blah blah.
You're living in Boyle Heights because there's no housing covenants
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and Boil Heights. And then the reason why there was
no housing covenants and Boil Heights is because there was
no water access for a long time, Like people had
a truck in their water and then them, yeah, mayor
one of the mayors built in bridges and infrastructure and
water started coming in. But that was after the Jews
had already started creating businesses there, you know, And now
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was the thing man is at the time. You know, uh,
you gotta look at the Jews as people who are
uplifting this neighborhood because other people were like, that's just
a place where black people and Mexican people live, but
Jewish people are and Asian people. But these were all
the same thing, bro to. You know, we live in
a world now where like Asian people are like really
(45:51):
smart and they work at Google. But back then they
were fucking dogs like us, you know, to these people,
and they were like they were treated like shit too.
So all these groups of people, but the Jewish people
who were kind of like this in between straddler where
they were doing business with white people, but they were
also conducting their businesses in Hispanic Black, you know, multicultural neighborhoods.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
One thing I want to point out is Boil Heights
was considered the Ellis Island of the West Coast because
of and that's what they called it because of because
of the diversity, bro. I mean, it was insane, dude,
Like we have all these different neighborhoods now in Los Angeles,
where you have Armenian neighborhoods, you have Mexican neighborhoods, Black neighborhoods.
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All those people were living in Boil Heights at one
time because of that, because of the housing covenant boom, yes,
white flight, but also the how there's no more covenants,
so you can, if you could afford it, you could
live there. And so that's the thing is Jewish people
started moving out of those neighborhoods and moving into the valley.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
I one of the things that I didn't know, dude,
Also it was the jungle. You know, if you watch dude,
can you throw that clip on of what's that movie
with Denzel Washington training day, look up training day. The jungle.
This neighborhood was a Jewish neighborhood. Before it was anything,
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it was called the jungle. So here's the thing, is
hebro He so yes, And I've driven through this. I'm like,
I did, I drive? I drive by this all my
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way home every day from the comedy store. So this
is to call the jungle the reason why they called it.
When I heard this, I was like, how fucking racist
to call it the jungle. But the Jewish people call
it the jungle when they were living there because of
the trees and palm trees. It look very tropical. I'm
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sure at that. It's not a fun place to be
even in the daytime.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
The palm trees, the palm trees are there there in
that area are not are not natured or poor, are
not part of California. Those palm trees were brought in,
like we said during the water before the water area,
to let people know.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
That California is beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
We have tropical area, but we don't have palm trees here.
They don't grow here. They were also bought from a
guy in Saudi Arabia back in the day who planned
to over California.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
The history of palm trees.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
And that's separate Northern California and southern We got palm trees,
they got trees, true, but we got them all over man,
but they're not there. They were brought in. We see
when you fly into l A when you look down,
they want people to see those palm trees. So no,
it's bad as well.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
That what's the thing is it is? And I used
to think, how who cares La? You have palm trees?
Speaker 2 (49:04):
What the Jewish color of the jungle? Though? The because
of the palm trees?
Speaker 3 (49:07):
Yeah, because of the palm trees. And we have palm
trees in San Jose. We even have them in our
bad neighborhoods like we have them here. But the palm
trees in l A are like double the size. They're
fucking tall, and they're bushy and they look fucking rad
during our smoggy sunsets here. That's interesting though, that the
that they bought it off of one Arab dude during
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the water Wars, you know, to make because do you
remember that phrase that one of the things when we
were doing the water Wars was like you reach outside
and you can pick an orange from any tree. Yeah,
you know, it was like the thing that they would
tell you about California to get to get people to
move here.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Spanish missionaries first brought palm trees to California in the
eighteenth century, planting them for their biblical significance. And that's
the ornamental plants at the missions. While most palms in
California and native to the region, these early plantings were
the beginning of a tradition that grew into the late
nineteenth and early twentieth century with a large scale planting
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project that's the one for the nineteen thirty two Olympics,
further establishing them as a symbol of son California. But they
were pleasure by the Spaniards.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
Okay, wow, Yeah. And that's the thing man is again,
I mean we you know, kind of when we do
these these ones like this, we have to dip into
other parts in history of what we've already.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Worked on an exotic appeal, bro right.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
And when we're talking about this stuff, we're talking about
La you know. And when you talk about one of
my this city is so fascinating to me because it
wasn't supposed to exist almost at all. It was a
water place. It was like it was a place that
they had a couple of huts with guys that worked
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contracted with the Spanish military to give water to troops
on their way down south to San Diego. San Diego
was supposed to be the big California hub, not Los Angeles. Yeah,
and then and then over over time, you know, LA
started to grow a little bit, but it didn't grow
until they got to a guy named Maulholland and we
did a whole water wars on that. You guys should
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check that out. But it kind of explains why Los Angeles.
Water is the biggest deal here in Los Angeles. And
it's not just because it's we drink it, we need it.
I mean, that's primary purpose. But this whole city was
built off of three things. Water movie, the entertainment industry,
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and the evangelical industry also started here, which a lot
of people don't know. Oh, dude, Perry Mason, have you
ever seen the New Perry Mason? The New Perry Mason
takes place in still in the in the thirties, and
because they can't use real names in TV shows like that,
they but they do a lot of replacing of stuff.
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They have what was her name, Amy, Amy, Amy McPherson's simple,
Amy Simple McPherson. She's in that show also, dude, it's
fucking rad. You should check out this show, man. I
keep thinking about you every time. They have the Angels
flight in it as well, and they did a lot
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of hard work. The show didn't make it because of
the amount of money that they had to put in.
It was super expensive, but it was It was authentic
as fuck, bro, it was super huh. Yeah, I think, well,
it only was two years of the movie that was
two seasons, but the history in it. I loved watching it.
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I'm sure my girlfriend didn't, but I love watching it
with her because I was explaining to her all the
things in l A. I was like, that's actually a
real thing that they had there where they did this.
They had to do that, dude. They show Glendale's farm
territory and there's a lady that bangs Perry Mason. Because
it's also a little more edgier version of Perry Mason.
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There's cursing, he's fucking. There's a lot of gore, which
is why I think it didn't make it either, because
they show the brutality of the real cases. But there's
a real lady that came out of la that was
the most famous stunt flyer, and she plays a person
in this show that's banging Perry Mason, you know, because
his parents own this farm. It's a good show. You
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guys should check it out. It's got a lot of
history of la in.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
It, Pastrama's history and Boyle Heights.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Okay, let's go.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
It's rooted in this past as a hub for the
Jewish community, which introduced a dish to Los Angeles through
Dali's like Catcher's Dally in nineteen thirties. Nice. Although the
Jewish population that's burst after World War Two due to
factors like red lightning. We're gonna do red lightning, the
culinary legacy of Postrama remained today's neghbor, with diners like
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Golden Boil Hides continue to serve pastrami, the bro by
the way man that more than Terminator three.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
Wait a minute, where is this hat? Is it still existing?
Speaker 1 (54:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (54:09):
That's the hell that's buried that. What street is that
out there? Boil? Right?
Speaker 3 (54:18):
Boil and Caesar Chovis. Okay, I'm gonna head there after this.
Do you guys have like a favorite place to get.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
You know what, Bro, look to the hat.
Speaker 3 (54:30):
I was gonna say, the hat is my favorite chili.
The hat is my favorite pastrami place.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
The hat put the hat chili fried with They do not.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Start in Heights, but the hat is. Yeah, but they did.
They have a location in Bull Heights. I don't think so,
but they have so. Yeah. I might go to the
hat today, Bro. Actually now, yeah, they're pastramiostrami chili fry.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
I've had the what's that famous deli on the East
Coast that has pastrami that they like cats cats. I've
had cats in New York. I've had cats in Las Vegas.
It's great pastrami. Pastrami is GREATMI if good pastrami is good, Pstrami.
But I think fucking hats is way better.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Dude. You hit the hat already, Yes it's hot. Take
Bro hit the hat.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Oh fuck yeah. I hit the hat all the time.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
The one in uh in uh, South l A. There's
one in South l A that I go to and
whenever I'm near it, I fucking hit it.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
Whenever Pastrami sandwich Lucy's that's the other one. Bro, That's
like West La Jewish people.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
Okay, Lucy's Yeah, Lucy's.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
When you want a harshell tackle with ketchup in it, I.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
Gotta stay here. Oh my god, that looks amazing.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
Look Lucy's hartshell tackles.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
Okay, that's a real thing.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
That girl name, Bro. Those taco the Hard Show tacos
look like a beautiful lady named Sharon made it.
Speaker 3 (56:05):
Oh yeah they never My friend, my friend, my friend's
mom made those, dude.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
Bro, because they made their hardshow tacos there?
Speaker 1 (56:15):
Mom?
Speaker 3 (56:15):
You should make You should make tacos like like Billy's
mom Sharon. And then I get slapped across the face.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
The little postrami sign was Jim's Burgers. Bro.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
I say, burgers with pastrami have changed the way that
I eat burgers, Like, I didn't know that burgers could
get any better than they are already, But burgers with
pastrami are fucking amazing.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
Dude. That's Jim's.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
I'm gonna go to Gym's. I don't know if I'm
gonna go to Gym's or the Hat today. I'm gonna
go to one of those, though, Yeah, because I got
it now, I'm fucking got a hankering for pastroms. God
damn bro, I love pastrami. By the way. I don't
know if you know that or not about me, but
I love pastrama man. Fuck yeah, dude, good for you
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Boil Heights for doing what you know.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
I want to know what the who started these little
yellow peppers. But the Jewish people too, huh? You little
like the Greeks, because you know, it's funny how the
Joys people started for strowomy, but when they left, the
Greeks came in and opened up the restaurants right in
their food.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
Yeah, that's pretty amazing. You mean you're talking about the
ones that they have at in and out right. Yeah,
those are so fucking good.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
That's a Califorina thing.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
It is a California I've never seen it anywhere else.
I've never even seen it in like New Mexico or Texas.
You know, we have these. I think we're the only
people who eat chili's with with with with burgers here.
I know I'm gonna get skewed in the comments for
that one.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
What they're called.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
Peppers?
Speaker 2 (57:48):
No, not banana.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Those are huge. Yeah, they're not banana peppers. Let me
look really quick. The Golden color wonder. Yeah, broadcasta what
is the origins of llow.
Speaker 2 (58:10):
Hot peppers that Burger stands California. The popularity of yellow
hot peppers at California Burger stands. It's strongly linked to
the Greek American restaurant culture and Southern California, which popularized
wow cascabella peppers, and the standard condiment changed like in
and out then helps solidify the peppers status as a
regional culinary staple.
Speaker 3 (58:32):
How did you know that that it was Greek?
Speaker 2 (58:35):
Because man, I know that Jims Burgers is owned by Greeks,
and after like the Jewish people left their day's, Greeks
came in and started opening up restaurants the you know,
with the with the fucking fifties Burgers.
Speaker 3 (58:54):
Yeah, it's interesting because you think burger is American, right,
and it is whatever, But it's funny because none of
these places were started by Americans. You know, all immigrants, dude.
When you eat hot dogs in LA, when you eat
and even in New York hot dogs, hamburgers, pizza, all
that shit, dude, all that American food served by fucking immigrants.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
Yeah. Man, if you look up the history of hamburgers
and hot dogs. Ain't nobody bro in the in the
Gilded Era was eating yeah, you know, the lowest thing
to like trash, right, you didn't know what the meat
it was.
Speaker 3 (59:31):
And hamburgers too, because the working man needed to go
have food like something in his hand while he ate, right,
so he could be on the go. That didn't sound right,
but he needed to have a handheld meal because he
was on the go. And hamburgers were invented. And I'm
almost sure we're not talking about white Anglo fucking citizens
(59:53):
on the East Coast that are working these dogs. These
are Italian immigrants, French immigrants, German immigrants, you know, probably
Jewish immigrants, Irish immigrants. Those are the people who so
when you talk about where American food came from, guess
where that came from.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Fucking what do you want to taco?
Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
What do you want to taco? Taco? Bell immigrants? Still,
I mean, delictest is a German word and it's but
or maybe it's Yiddish. I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Yeah, man, people like when I chip out, when transplants
come over here and they're eating at Tommy's Burgers and
they're eating it without the yellow pepper, Like what do
you do?
Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Or you're eating in and now without the yellow pepper?
Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Get out of here?
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
I love you, so how can you eat.
Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
How can you eat us postrami sandwich in Los Angeles
without the yellow pepper?
Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
You fucking piece of ship.
Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
You fucking That's why I know people who left Los
Angeles and complain about it. It's because they never hung
out the right people. I'm pretty sure Joe Rogan never
ate of a nice fat chili burger bro no with
yellow five ye peppers, or nobody ever took him to
(01:01:09):
the hat from a big op ASTROOMI sandwich. I don't. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
That's the thing is like, where do you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Not like tremendous?
Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Yeah? I come from a very beautiful, lovely place in California,
and I still love this place, like coming here, Like,
I'm like, this fucking place is rad. It's hard for me, dude. Yeah,
people who know me know how much I love the
Bay Area. Felipe does. I talk about it all the time.
I know, fucking I don't think anything's rad. I go
(01:01:39):
to place and I go they don't have what we have.
LA is one of the only places that doesn't have
what we have. But has other stuff that makes it
fucking rad and I don't feel and honestly, man, here's
one thing I will say about La versus anywhere I've been.
And I realize this because the government here sucks. The
cops here fucking suck. So the community is on its
(01:02:01):
own when it comes to dealing with stuff. So this
place is more communal, like. People are very community driven here,
more than anywhere else I've ever seen, dude, And people
are more apt to participate in being part of your
community here. I've watched people put quarters in my fucking
thing when I fucking in my meter.
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Yeah, I love la Dude, I love it. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
What are people history for foods Boyle Heights? I read
one paper I read.
Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I watched a lot of I watched a lot of documentaries.
There should be more on Boil Heights. There's a lady
who has a project called the at UCLA and I'm
gonna fuck it up, but it's like the Boyle Heights Project,
and it's about Jewish people in Boyle Heights. It's a
it's a very like interactive website, but it's also at
(01:03:00):
the Jewish Museum. Check it out, you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
You know who are play who? There's a Dodger player
that lived in Boil Heights, Tommy Davis. Looking up Tommy
Davis Dodgers. Mm hmm yeah, where do you grew up?
M early life, bron Okay, never mind about Willie Davis.
Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
We got a Brookn Avenue and we're gonna we're gonna
find a player that we went to live in our
late before we leave.
Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Okay, Willie Davis Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Famous baseball players out of Boyle Heights. Oh dude, there's
one huge guy Wills Fernando Valenzuela from Mexico. Oh really yeah,
it says picture Ricky Romero and for Mauri Wills m
(01:04:12):
a u r wh Oh they're honored with a mural.
Never Mind, I didn't I didn't read that part. But
from l A right, grew up in What about Ricky Romero?
Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Fuck you, bro? You know what Tommy Davison.
Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Fight someone?
Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Goddamn it. It's the bullshit.
Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Somebody went to roll about.
Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Famous baseball players who went to Roosevelt High School.
Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Please high school.
Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
Baseball players including outfielder Willie Davis and picture.
Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Yeah you said Willie Davis.
Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Yeah, Willie Davis put in.
Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
MLB outfielder Willie Davis.
Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
I knew what was right.
Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Because that's yeah, that's it. He's an outfielder.
Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Okay, who Bill grew up in l A?
Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Right, it has to be, bro. It's the same guy
he done in Burbank, Willie Davis from l A outfield picture.
Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
He done in Burbank in the sun Dove City like
a g that's city.
Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Yes, no, no, it was not at all. I don't
know who fucking said their neighborhoods around their were the
neighborhoods around there were.
Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Fuck dog, what a racist place to live?
Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Yeah, dude, well at the time, and not no more. Bro,
it's it's a mecca. It's a mecca. L A is
a mecca. Not born in Los Angele, That's not fucking true.
I just asked the same person you're asking, Okay, high school,
Los Angeles. He grew up, Yeah, he grew up here. Hey, bro,
(01:06:11):
I don't give a funk where you're born. It's where
you grew up, dude.
Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
I didn't raised roots.
Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Yes, banged the chicks all right, fucking finally got to
the bottom of that one history for.
Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Fools, Davis, honorable Boyle HI member.
Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Oh I got to give out a shout out to
a dono one more time, man, and this guy loves
us a ton. Let me just fine, dude, I just
want to make sure I give the the proper Chris Herrera,
thank you one more time. Man. Your funds are going
to go to a good cause. I buy books with these,
I buy I buy materials for for writing and for
(01:06:49):
researching all the all the projects. So I appreciate you,
man one more time, sending me out a dono. I
love you, bro, and uh, I love all you guys,
thanks for watching this.
Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Thank you very much. Man to that dude from Quiet Kings.
Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Oh yeah, also Tyler from Quiet Kings, Bro, fucking shout
out to you Quiet Kings and surf Rider. You guys
are fucking rad. Thanks for fucking giving us lacing us
up with some dope dope for twenty products.
Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
We love you.
What with put what think with propt.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Deprett history for fools?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh my god, that's.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Here we go lyrics, No, step right back and your
hear started out this puppet tile aboard this Chinese ship,
the first ship. The weather started getting rough. Here we go,
(01:35):
uhh a three hour, a three hour tour. The weather started.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Here we go. Now sit right back and tell wait, wait,
hold on, let me hold on on lyrics. I will
do it right now.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I know the lyrics thing.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
There's like, it's so funny that think you can find
the lyrics these days. Just sit right back. Came here,
right back here.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Anyways, the weather started getting rough, but the tiny ship
was tough.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Wow, that's that Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I used to work with a comedian name mom, Steve
Steve rick Wright. He was a regular, paid regular the
comedy store in the eighties and the nineties, and he
fell in love and moved to Europe and he took close.
That song brought the wild coyotes over in the the
(02:52):
comedy store. You're te guitar bro and like an eighties comic,
and I we wul just be jamming dog. He to him,
he's a play like he'll start playing a song and
to imagine another song and he'll start playing all he
started playing a song like this, and then he'll take
(03:13):
that same beat and turning into punk rock music new wave,
and then and then all the way. That guy, that guy, Bro,
there's no footage of him anywhere. I'll play that play
that bro, have him, I play it bro.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Okay, sorry, no medallion, the hair is on vacation, all right.
That guitars.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Anyway, America's first singing stor.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Man legend, comedy store legend.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
The other day.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Man comes up to me. He's good to.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Bite me three days, so I bet him.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
He buys a farm and with red suspender. He wants
to keep his spens up. Yeah, he's a murder. Looks
the end. He sits around. He he wanted to see time.
(04:21):
We're in the middle because my wife so fat that
when she sits around the house, she really sends around
the house. Honey, you break a polar springle you do
his punch him and the nose horror of it right there?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Who's there?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You're a bull? He's good man?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Take my wife please.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yu yo? Not cool man, not god?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Cry that it is funny, dudes.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Who's there? The whole Diamond could sing any song that way.
Who's there?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It is the police police come back that day. That
was good. A new Diamond impressions.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Dude, that is with But that's the is that the
joke that like Neil Diamond could sing anything, because that's
pretty because like right now you're just kind of proving
that point. That's hilarious, dude. There there, and that's what
you did with the Gilligan song.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, he's told clothe the Gilligan song.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Okay, I should find it. Ohag Island fell in love,
he fell in love, moved to Europe. You know what, dude,
anything could take a.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Down somewhere, chilling, bro. Anything can take.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
A comedian down, from fucking drugs and death to fucking
falling in love. I remember, uh uh uh jay Leno,
I was reading a book called Comic Insights by AJ Franklin.
Check that book out, you guys. It's a really good
book if you're interested in comedy. And Jay Leno was like,
anything could take out a comedian from drugs to falling
(06:27):
in love. And I was like, word to your motherfucking mama,
that is so true, dude, a great comic. We're talking
about him years later probably having the best life ever.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You know, here's to do a thing where he will
go like this, that song by the Running Throne song
Benet anyway, he'll do like a riff song and then
he'll show you that that riff could be anything that
(07:01):
just rock right, they'll just do He'll be like a
rock rift. He'll do the soul Man, the song alm
a soul man pleased to meet you forgotten? Who's that?
Oh wow wow?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Oh he's still out there doing it. He's still out
Oh dope, get around, can't get around.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I'm thinking of harder competitions.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
That's great, that's great.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Ron Stewart, you want to my body? You think him
sex and something with you?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
All right to Vienna.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Is now.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
HUSU do a joke bro where he will go at
this like he was about to do it, starts a
song the song of soul Man. Okay, done done, and
you know, a'm so man. You know there's a rip
before it starts, putting it in and then but this
thinking so mad, he will say, oh tel you know
the yellow break.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Oh he too put in a different songs. It's really brilliant.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
The funny and they started playing like a rock and
roll and then punk and then he'll go to a
Green Day song. It's funny how music people say music
always changing, but always sound the same.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It does, yeah, it does.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
But those three rials from SKA, he took him all
the way to Green Day. Wow, the same beat. He
just whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, it's upbeats right, it's up eeats. Yeah. Wow. Seven
seventy weeks ago last year here he had a show.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
We're at.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
The throck Morton, the talk Morton. I'll be at the
trock Morton on the thirtieth. You guys, check me out.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You have shows coming up this week or next week.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
This week I have shows on this weld.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I know. I'll be a spoke. I just got back
from Spokan.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Sol Oh that's right, Yeah, that's right already.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, you bro.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Great there where you at? But I will be at
the throck Morton. I was working at the Davis. I
was working at a bar in Davis Brewery. I'm sure
it was great. Just come see me at the Throckmorton,
you guys. I'll be there. That's a great theater by
the way. It's a historical theater in Mill Valley and
(09:46):
it's run by a wonderful lady. But yeah, let's go
out of history there.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
My dog has please.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I like, I like when you play the ukulele. You're
very it's very uh, very melodic. What do we what
are we gonna what are we gonna talk about today?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
This week, we're gonna talk about a place called pardon something.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Pardon something.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, let me see here, you shut up.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
This is Mariachi Plaza, but more importantly, this is Boyle Heights. Now,
this area is deep.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
And rich in history.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
There we go. We're gonna take this back way back
to eighteen thirty five known as Heights. You're right, the.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Blanco people, the White Blue Buffs, the White Bluffs, boil Hides,
which was belonged to Spain in eighteen thirty.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
That's right, in eighteen thirty it belonged to Spain. And
that's only seventy years before the era, the era that
we're about to talk about. That's not a lot of time,
because a lot happens in that short amount of time
between it. It becomes it's that and becomes something else.
You know, we have the the Treaty of Hildalgo. That happens,
(11:33):
and then America comes in and and there's Spanish landowners.
There's I think there's only supposed to be three or
four Spanish landowners in Los Angeles at the time. Yes,
and dude, they had a shitload of land and and
these these American people come in and they say, this
(11:54):
is our land now, and and they do fairly in
their minds, fairly, but it's not fair at all.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Give.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
But also I don't give a fuck because it's Spaniards.
But they give, they give them some of their property back,
but they take away a fuck tone and part of
that land, uh was given back? Let me see too,
the Lugos. So the Lugo family owned. No, I think
(12:28):
it's the Lugo family. I could be wrong. This is
me because if the part of this too is that
there's not a lot of books written on this subject,
so I had to like tie to dive in on
and then it could be Lopez. Again, don't fucking do
your homework on this fucking podcast. Okay, Well, no matter what,
it ended up being purchased by now it's namesake Andrew Boyle,
(12:52):
and it was twenty two acres of land and it
was considered East Los Angeles. It wasn't even considered East
Los Angeles had all these names. But we're talking about
the eastern part of Los Angeles, right, And here's something
that I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Know about Angeles.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Here's the thing I don't know about me pay that
I think you need to educate me on a little
bit before people attack me in comments. What's the difference
between East LA and Boyle Heights, Because because you can't
say I live in East LA if you live in
Boyle Heights. I've learned that one.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Wow, East Lay was a Jewish community. I'll tell you
this right in Rooseve and Garfield High School. Yes, that's
East La rivalry right. Supposedly a lot of Germans settled
in that area by Garfield and there was a rivalry
between the German So.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
This rivalry was long before Latinos had taken over way before.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
But it depends where we're at now. Me personally, since
I grew up in Fourth Street and Boyle Street, I
grew up south of Fourth and Boyle Street, which is
Picco Gardens projects named after Pio Pico and Pinko, a
Lisso Aliso village and new Also, we considered the border
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of Boyle Heights to end on First and Lorena.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
First and Lorena. Yeah, that's kind of where I was.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
That's where I was first and Lorena right there by
the snow Cone place. That's not there no more. Right
there by the snow Cone place. They to have the
the east the big Boyle Heights fucking snow Cone, that
place with a border. Now, if you want to take
it down to the over there, if you want to
(14:39):
go to Boyle Heights where Soda Street and Washington is
right and Whittier East LA ends again, it is right
there on Lorena and Whittier.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I think, I know, I think I know what you're
talking about. That's kind of a little bit beyond where
they filmed blood and Blood out right.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And if you're going over there by easter Lake College,
easter Lake College area and that one right there, man
East LA begins on Floral on Floral Floral Street, Okay,
Eastern and Floral area, because that was where the thirty
one bus takes it to rim Paul and did Mark
(15:26):
did something And that's where the boat that's where that
that's first threet area.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
So when you're talking about the Germans took over, and
then you're talking about the Germans and then other Eastern Europeans.
We're not talking about actually German people. We're talking about
German people. We're talking about Jewish German people.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Right. I don't even know how many people settle because
look up a thorough in East la there's a Serbian cemetery, right.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And that's the thing, is ah, so in eighteen fifties,
in eighteen fifty not Andrew Boyle, where do I have here?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
It is?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Sorry about my notes obviously, Okay, eighteen eighty one, the
Czar Alexander the second was assassinated in Russia, so Russians.
So after that happened, Russians blamed the Jews and then
started treating him like shit and ostracizing. And when other
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countries were nationalizing and forming, they were nationalizing their Jewish
communities along with it. This is not this is one
of the only groups of people was these Eastern Europeans
that were fleeing Russian areas because they were being persecuted
and killed, and so they were coming to the East coast.
And that's where you see the Jewish population pop up
(16:48):
on the East coast around the eighteen eighties. Because what
we're talking about time period we're talking about is nineteen hundred.
So when the Jewish settlers get to LA they're not
actually mean fleeing that anymore, but they are fleeing some
other injustices and stuff like that. One of the first
places they hit is San Francisco. And when you talk
(17:09):
about the gold Rush, which I think we should do
an episode on the gold Rush, but there is should
be an emphasis on the Jewish population there, because I
don't think people talk about it. And I didn't realize this,
but like fucking the Jewish people supplied the miners during
with copper, with copper, with with tools. Levi Strauss, you know,
(17:31):
I didn't even realize Strauss and Company is a German
Jewish person who started the Levi Company, which we all
know who they are at this point.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You know they they when they when they started the
gold Rush. I remember we talked about how everybody that
guy males, that guy from the from the cereal he
was stelling tools, yes, and that's who was stilling Levi's
that's right. And so then everybody working with khakis, right right.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I know, they were working in there like nice outfits
and shit, and he started to give them some rugged wear.
So so the eighteen forty nine happens eighteen fifties eighteen eighties.
The Jews that are coming from the East coast are
now moving towards the west coast. And then the gold
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rush starts to come to an end, and then there
starts to be Jewish. You start to see Jewish settlers
in in Los Angeles, and in nineteen hundred the population
of LA is one hundred thousand. It's making it is
like one of the big becoming one of the biggest
cities in the country. Two thousand, five hundred of those
(18:43):
were Jewish people, and they start to make their way
to boil hides. Why to boil heids? Why did Because
that's the other thing is, dude, here's the other thing
that I didn't realize when you told because you've we've
talked about this a lot. You know, you're very proud
of your neighborhood, and so you told me a lot
(19:04):
of things about how like cancers started there and like
the Jewish population got there. In my mind, what I
thought was happening was that the Jewish people were there
first then handed the community over to Hispanic people and
stuff like that. But actually they were intermingled with Hispanics
already there like right, there was already like a lot
of Mexican people, there was a lot of black people.
(19:24):
There's a lot of Japanese, Chinese, Albanian.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
At a lot of California. They were like they had
this big plan. I'm pretty sure that there was a
big plan to make Los Angeles or California like New York. Right.
So when now the Jews came, they had their own
little neighborhood right there, and also America America California trying
(19:52):
to be very Protestant because they were telling people, Remember
we were talking move out here, very water.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
We did that during the water Wars episode.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Come to California. You know, you could be Christian over here.
But not not not mentioned that there were are Catholics
here bro right, are you gonna say that when there's
already a big ass church that the standard left right
people still worship it.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
So when the Jews came, those who had nowhere else
to go but Boyle Heights, right, and no one else
will give them homes but hes right, right, boy Heights
became a place where if you're a person of color,
we'll tell you a home here. Yeah, you can't leave
anywhere or they couldn't they couldn't get homes to live
anywhere else.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I know that this was happening in the Bay Area
as well.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Red lightning.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
It's called redlining or urban urban renewal, restrictive restrictive covenants,
restrictive racial covenants. Yeah, and basically saying like you can't
sell the black people. Redlining was like a way of
raiding a neighborhood. And they would do things like because
(21:00):
Bull Heights didn't have a lot of access to water,
they would do things like, well, we're gonna rate it low,
and that way people wouldn't buy They you couldn't get
loans to like live there. You can buy property, like
the property value like plummets, and so it makes it
so that like basically the only people who are going
to live there are poor people and people who can
(21:22):
get like rights to live there.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
No, there wasn't one. There was also like no, they
couldn't get loans. So Soto Street became like the hub
for the for the neighborhood. Huh. The Soto Street was
like Broadway Avenue. Soto Street was like you know, man, man,
you know that that big street in New York Times Square.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Oh yeah, Broadway Broadway. Yeah, it's Broadway.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So Soto Street, Like if you look at total Street,
Soto Street has a lot of bus stops, and I
would wonder what street has so many bus stops to
all the streets because it is a happening place back
in the thirties. The hollow Back Junior High School is
on Soto Street to get there. Roosevelt High School is
there to get there, Bridge Street Elementary School, Bred Street,
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that the Soda Street Elementary schools on Soto. These are
all places you could get to by a bus, you know,
right now and it's happening. There's a McDonald's, Sears, Sears, Rodbucks.
You could get through it through Sola Street.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Dude, I meant to ask you this at some point.
So you worked at Sears, you worked at that big Sears.
Yeah in LA. Can you throw that up there just
so people understand what this is. I want urban exploring, Okay,
So I so badly want to go in there, and
I know that. So there's so many videos of people
getting caught going in there now because all these new
(22:50):
YouTubers that are doing every and exploring are so this
is an abandoned sears it and I do believe that
the first floor is the part of it still open.
You could go in and purchase something from the catalog.
In one little area of this building with the rest.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Is see up there were the SSR.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yeah, you've been all the way up there. Holy fuck
you up.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
There where the building, the whole building was, the whole
air conditioning was by a swamp cooler.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Oh no way, even until nineteen eighty nine. That's a
the Namass building, dude.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah. So when the eighty seven earthquake cave, the swamp
colder broke and the water came down like a hurricane
bro down, the shadow.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Just fucking and everything up. That's with all the water damage.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So my job was to get all the boards on
and clean them. Bro.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
So you were working there during that time, Yeah, okay,
So I watch uh these guys who break into abandoned
buildings all the time, and I've probably seen like three
or four people who've broken into the Seers building and
that exact flory you're talking about. At least two of
the people. I've watched them like there was some kind
of water damage here, and they showed like the the
maps that were on the wall had like, uh water
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level like uh, stains and stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
That's when that scene broke.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
So Okay, this is what I was gonna ask you.
There was a train that went directly from Boyle Heights
non stop to the Seers right, yeah. Did you take
that train too?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
No? No, by that's the normal trains.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Okay, there was no more trains. Okay, all right. That's
what I was wondering, is how long did that train
because there was I know that at the time.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
There's the train Steers will not that's just the building
right where that building you know people do Amazon purchased this? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, that that was the main distribution.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
That's how that place worked, right, Yes, Like if you
had a if you you live in southern California or
the West Coast, and you got a catalog and you
filled it out and you melted a seers Seers there,
they had a they had a mail room, and that
mail room will received your your catalog and then they'll
fill it out and another paper and then I'll send
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a paper upstairs to the to the people that we
were little shopping carts and they're like Uber eats shopping.
There was a shopping cart and they're grabbing your your
not just your order, but so another's order and they're
putting in a bath.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
So this is like an Amazon back then. This is
like the hit of their time.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
But they didn't change with the times. They could have
stood in business if they could have just changed their model.
There have so many executives and shareholders to keep happy
that they just they couldn't come in an agreement. But
the way it works is just the way Amazon works.
They are everything that you need they needed to sell
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was already there, washing machines, everything, Okay, right there in
that building. You don't see it. But if you go east,
if you go west, if you go west of the building,
right there, those factories where all the ship was being
it's still there. If you had factory that they owned, okay.
And then over there on six o there even on
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over there on Whittier past Wadier, they had a mind
the warehouse where they where they held all their fucking furniture. Bro.
So if you wanted furniture, the guy would go like
this and somebody will go pick it up.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
And they also had across the street their own their
own pet.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Boys, their own yeah, their own auto shop. Okay, if
you have to, because if you have if you bought
a car and you got to see a Roebucks auto
insurance your car, you get service there. That's see. That's
that's the thing, man, is they were way ahead of
their time. I do remember my mom. My mom had
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auto repair insurance through Sears and Roebuck and we would
take it. Oh no, we had Montgomery Wards. Never mind,
but Montgomery Wards was doing the same thing back then.
And but but so again, I watched a lot of
these guys breaking and one of the videos that I
saw is they break into what I think is an
area you probably worked in. And they showed a map
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and it was like and the map basically said that
this was the West Coast distribution area all the way
up to the Midwest and lower and the like Southwest states,
and then there was a Midwest hub which wasn't as big,
and then there was an East Coast hub which was
almost as big. But this was like the largest facility
(27:37):
that they ever had. This thing is huge, you guys like,
you can look it up on your own on YouTube.
But it's very interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Because it employed so many people.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Is this this is because this is not in Boyle Heights, right,
it is in Boyle Heights okay and so like. But yeah,
I was interested more in the train and who they employed,
because you know, we are talking about the Jewish people
in Boyle Heights.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I went urban exploring in side one time to that
Sears and I saw all the way on top, Bro,
way on top by the letters are the s was.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
That, Yeah, this is the building, this is inside that.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, Bro. I went further than there. I went now
further than they are, Bro. I was over there by
what the letters are and that's been cleaned up. That's clean. Bro.
I was there when it was all dirty, whatever they
were seeing. I saw it like the way.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Before Wait you broke in? Did you break into your
working there? Before? After you worked there? Did you ever
go and see it?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Know that all that the other showing is like was open.
There were people there. But I went further up bro
where there was nobody there in the nineteen nineties, and
I saw all the badges, bro, from the people that
worked in the sixties. Wow, all the information for like
their applications.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Wow, this is the Chicago one right, Yeah, that's the
Chicago one.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Okay, that's different. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah. Do you thin get how good Felipe knows that
ship dude.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
The wonderful boy no escalator. Bro.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I was saying them all, that doesn't look like the
inside that I've seen, because like if you look up
the one in LA, they show the top and it's
like wild in there. Bro I would love to go
in there. If anybody knows how to legally get in there,
please let me know and I'll make a video about it.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
They just saw good popcorn?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Did that place? Did a lot of the Jewish people
population work there as well? Because also the population we're
talking about when you think of Jewish people in LA,
we're not talking about you know, because there was also
a population that was running companies and.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
All right, man, this is a big question. Everybody asked,
how come we have so much postroomi because the Jewish
people are.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Left in Mexican neighborhoods.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, and that's what we have because you know, man,
the people might leave with the food left behind, well
not so much pastrami and l a that we don't
know what to do with it right now. Like there's
the hat, there's the hat, one of the.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Best jims ever.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Jim's Burgers Postrami. I wonder why Boyle his so much pastrami?
Is because of the Jews.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
It's because the Jews and left George people. The first
Canters Deli, so we think of when we think of
Canter's Deli in Los Angeles, I think it's the one
on Fairfax and uh and actually the original one was
Bowl Heights on what is now Caesar Chavis Avenue but
used to be Brooklyn Avenue.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
There's a synagogue and on Bread Street.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
That's the Breed Streets that's the largest that was the
largest synagogue in the country at some point in time,
I don't remember exactly when. And they're now actually they're
rebuilding it. They're really like, but that was the thing
is like there. So here's here's some points out of
Boyle Heights. Nineteen twenty four, Modern Hebrew School and Social Center,
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which became the Breed Oh no, that okay, anyway, nineteen thirty,
the Menora Center, nineteen eleven, the Hebrew Sheltering Association which
in and then nineteen oh two they had built the
caspart Coen Hospital, which later became Cedars and then later
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after that became Cedars Sinai. So that that started there.
Catchers Delhi opened in nineteen thirty one. Nineteen four Telematora
school which later in nineteen twelve became the Breeds Rereat Shool,
seventy five thousand members at its peak, you know. And
that's the thing, man, is like seventy five thousand Jewish
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people lived in la at the time. Thirty five of
that thirty five thousand of them, almost more than half.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Lived in Padrias said that they had their own gang too,
lived in Boyle Heights. Did they really have their Paldrias
said they had their own gang called the Landlords. That's
fucking if you look looking at them. Before the streets
called Brooklyn Avenue yea and named after Brooklyn right right
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and Brooklyn Avenue, they had a lot of delicate tessan
that were Jewish owned, and they have a lot of
Jewish bombs right placed it. But then they all moved
and they were replaced by taco stands and Chinese restaurants.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
But what about also the businesses at the time were
a lot of tailor uh and people who worked in clothing, right,
which started like I tried to find the cone.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
That was like all that stuff moved to the garment
district in downtown, right.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
And I tried to find the connection and I'm sure
there is because now the garment district, the people who
work on the clothing and the seamstresses, they're all they're
all Mexican.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Lady.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, man, And and I think this is okay. I
did read this. I heard this in one of the
podcasts that I was listening to, So I don't have
any verification of this evidence, but I'm almost sure that
this is the way it went. Was that the Jewish
community really worked with the Mexican community big time. Like
the there was there was a group of Mexicans called
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the Mutual Listas and the Mutual Lista has worked with
the with the I can't remember it was called the
like Civil Mutual Mutual Association or something like that, but
it was a bunch of Jewish people who got together
with money and and and and got money together for
people that there were people that were persecuted in other
parts of the country like Chicago and Cleveland to move
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to California and Mexican people were doing the same thing,
and they were like, hey, we should get together and
do this, and and at that point during that time,
they also voted in the first Mexican mayor of Los
Angeles over a Jewish mayor. Yeah, because Jewish people felt
like what's good what comes out of boil Heights is
good for boil Heights, and and so they But I
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believe that at some point they hired Mexican women to
work as their seamstresses in their factories. And that's why
to this day you still see a lot of Mexican
women working in fact in the seamstresses out here and
have their own businesses, like thriving businesses. If you drive
around parts of East LA and South Central, there's a
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lot of like sewing shop facility, like fixing facilities and stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
When I was doing a show one time at the
Comedy Magic Club, I met a lady I think she
graduated from my high school in nineteen forty. Holy fuck.
And then like I remember, somebody mentioned somebody said I
went to such as She said, I went to such
and such high school. She looked at them and said,
my condolences. Why she felt like our high school way better?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yeah, when high school is yours again.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
It was Roosevelt right, also the the the owner of
the Clippers. He went to road A high school. He's Jewish.
One of them in trouble saying no racist.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Oh yeah, Garcetti.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
No, that's that's that's the Italian mayor, the owner of
the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Okay, stop liking Instagram.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
What's his name? Donald Sterling. He went to road A
High School and his his ex, the girl you was
fooling around with, she went to roll Over High School too.
Oh wow, they kept it in the high school. Bro,
Look at that young, like how many years? A part
of how she went to high school in the eight nineties,
(35:43):
I was gonna say, and he went in the forties. Good?
Speaker 3 (35:46):
You know what, Bro, that's Los Angeles right there in
that shell for you.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Guys, rough rider love man.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Look at that. How old that guy's out there getting?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
But that's funny. How they left behind spastrami.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, they left behind pastrami. They also left behind two cemeteries,
the Peace Memorial Park and where's the other cemetery called
Mount Zion? And the Peace Memorial Park is supposed to
be really really beautiful and has uh Henry Henry Einstein's
(36:23):
buried there. Uh you know Albert Brooks's dad, Uh, Carl
Carl Lemley and Louis B.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Mayer.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Uh, all three Warner brothers were buried there, and uh, uh,
Curly and Shemp from the Three Stooges are buried there.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
You know, he'll grubber Boyle Heights. Two Abbot from aban
Constello really no costello, yeah a costello.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Wow. Mickey Cohen also ran his business out of there,
and so did Bugsy Seagull. They ran numbers running businesses
from a place called the Ebony Room Bar. Is that
still there? No, it's not there anymore, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
The funny man. How you see how they didn't really
care for that much for Boyle Heights that they were there,
built a whole freewheal above it, right, it was literally
a whole freeway above above Boil Heights.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I was watching someone.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Right through their neighborhood. They could have went through a
rich neighborhood, but it went through that name.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
That's what this guy said, is that this guy grew
up in Boyle Heights and he went to school in
the forties. Yeah, and he was a teacher at Roosevelt
during the fifties and sixties, and he was saying that
what fucked everything up was how the freeways they put
all the freeways through all these neighborhoods that cut everybody
out of the neighborhood, and so it kind of separated
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everybody from l A.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
And it changed the gang names too, Like how well
you know that Sleepy Lagoon right, that gang? Yeah, that
was that was cut off by the freeway and became white.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Is now it was sleepy Lagoon before.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, And I'm sorry maybe my wife and but all
the look up eastas I prefer freeway.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
I prefer white that it's over sleepy lagoon. Like this
doesn't sound as scary they.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Used to be. Like when when when Boyle hides Easter
LA Before the freeway, it used to be one big
neighborhood homes. It's the guy talking down with.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
A palm tree in the front yard, the camper, the boat,
temptingly close to the Los Angeles ghetto. In the fifties
and sixties, it became the Black American dream. Open housing
paved the way as middle class blacks flooded into the city.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
White see people never mentioned that, bro, But they have
a lot of black people too.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Oh they did a ship load bro black. Well, it
says forty different nationalities that dude, we're talking that.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I said yes to everybody, right, and then like and
then it was like Irish, like if you want to
like Irish people, they used to live in this other
section called Dogtown that they named the Dogtown and then
later on that became the dog Town projects. And then
it's sad because everybody talks about all these housing projects
(39:23):
in East LA, but the Dogtown projects are probably the
ones that are located in the worst part of Los
Angeles because they're actually in downtown l A. Like, there's
no grocery store for this neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
It's a food desert.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
It's a food desert. No hospital, there's nothing. Bro, Like,
we're these people want to go to a grocery store,
they gonna drive to the to the suburbs of Lincoln Heights. Wow,
they look up Dogtown projects the o gt O.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
So the very first residential neighborhood like single housing unit
residential neighborhood like basically suburbs was.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Look right there, Bro, twenty two three bros to look
the same look real that ship? Oh wow, but they're
all brick the brick kind broy were They're old, Bro,
these are old projects. They haven't even remodeled them, they
haven't closed them down. It's the same. Look. There's no
buildings around there.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
People still living in them.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Huh wow, that's huge, man.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Go foward all the way forward to the end. Look
where the rat lible the rat they're downtown l A.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Oh yeah, that's right across the railroad.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Right there to the railroad. They have nothing.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Oh dude, they're like, uh east of me. Oh, I
know exactly at the end of China Town. Yes, I
know exactly where this is at Alta.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Now, So that was the Irish were allowed to live.
What what benefits do they have live in there, bro.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Other than the just cheap rent and to survived nothing?
Uh nothing. Well that's the thing, man is. That's what
I was gonna say, was that West l A was
the first home of the suburb, and and because of that,
all the factories were put on the eastern side of
la which is why the housing was cheap. And nobody
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wanted to live there because it was just fucking factories
and fucked up shit. But the people of Boyl Heights
were like, we'll live there, and they moved in and
they developed bridges and waterways and places, you know, like things,
you know, like things of their own. In nineteen forty eight,
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though covenants were deemed not constitutional, covenants were like, you
can't live here because you're black bo you know, straight
up like we do not. This neighborhood will not sell
houses to black people. You cannot sell your house to
a black person in this neighborhood. I didn't get to
talk about it during the Venice Beach history when we
(41:53):
did the history of Oil and Jennie Beach. But the
guy who created Venice Beach, his driver was a black guy.
Like he loved everybody he wasn't, you know. And at
that time, huh yes, what was his name, Abbot Kenny.
So Abbot Kenny loved everybody. He didn't He was a
(42:14):
really different white dude in that time where he didn't
give a fuck about your race. So he hired black people.
Like the main architect of Venice Beach is a black guy. Anyway,
he dies, he leaves his uh part of his land
and his house to a black family. And at the time,
they wouldn't let black people there. There was housing covenants
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in Venice Beach that wouldn't allow black people to live there.
So this guy literally had to pick up this fucking house,
dismantle it, and move it to a black part of town. Nearby.
Uh nearby Venice Beach, and so housing covenants were a
real thing. You cannot it is illegal, Like sure, go ahead,
sell that to a black person, watch us, let that
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motherfucker move in. So they weren't doing that. And then
in nineteen forty eight, uh, housing covenants were listed and
that allowed Jewish people because the thing was too man is.
I thought about this too, because like, I didn't know
Jewish people were Jewish people until I was an older person.
In my mind and the way I grew up, my
mom would call them white people. We had Jewish people
(43:18):
living in our neighborhood, and we had Jewish people that
ran things and did things, but my mom never called
them Jews or those Jewish people. She'd be like, those
fucking white people did this, like fucking white And so
growing up, I thought they were all my Jewish friends
and people. I knew they were white people to me.
And and the thing is is, you go, well, how come,
how the fuck do you know the difference? But when
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you're talking about if we're going to fast forward today,
let's say there was housing covenants and you have a
house in Van Eyes, that's probably about I don't know,
seven hundred and fifty thousand to a million dollars with
the houses probably cost around here. You have you have,
you know, people who've been ostracized put on uh places
(44:05):
where they're good at their genocides, they're moving here, they're
fleeing and even at this time in Chicago and Cleveland,
which is why Jews started coming to the West coast
because of persecution, because people keep blaming these people for
fucked up shit, and so even though right, but even
though they're able to probably buy a house and pass
(44:25):
his wife, they're not. You're not gonna fucking take that risk.
You're not gonna fucking take a risk of buy a
house for fucking five hundred thousand dollars seven hundred thousand
dollars at their time, which probably was like probably a
few thousand. But you're not gonna take that risk. And
then one of your nosey ass motherfucking neighbors finds out
your jew and then they have a fucking town hall
(44:46):
meeting and you lose your house. You just get kicked
out of your home. Bro. So uh, that's the thing
is it's fucked up and for for black and brown people.
You know, I don't want to make it sound like
it was easier, but the choice was easy. You can't
live here, so you're gonna live in fucking blah blah blah.
You're living in Boyle Heights because there's no housing covenants
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and Boil Heights. And then the reason why there was
no housing covenants and Boil Heights is because there was
no water access for a long time, Like people had
a truck in their water and then them, yeah, mayor
one of the mayors built in bridges and infrastructure and
water started coming in. But that was after the Jews
had already started creating businesses there, you know, And now
(45:30):
was the thing man is at the time. You know, uh,
you gotta look at the Jews as people who are
uplifting this neighborhood because other people were like, that's just
a place where black people and Mexican people live, but
Jewish people are and Asian people. But these were all
the same thing, bro to. You know, we live in
a world now where like Asian people are like really
(45:51):
smart and they work at Google. But back then they
were fucking dogs like us, you know, to these people,
and they were like they were treated like shit too.
So all these groups of people, but the Jewish people
who were kind of like this in between straddler where
they were doing business with white people, but they were
also conducting their businesses in Hispanic Black, you know, multicultural neighborhoods.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
One thing I want to point out is Boil Heights
was considered the Ellis Island of the West Coast because
of and that's what they called it because of because
of the diversity, bro. I mean, it was insane, dude,
Like we have all these different neighborhoods now in Los Angeles,
where you have Armenian neighborhoods, you have Mexican neighborhoods, Black neighborhoods.
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All those people were living in Boil Heights at one
time because of that, because of the housing covenant boom, yes,
white flight, but also the how there's no more covenants,
so you can, if you could afford it, you could
live there. And so that's the thing is Jewish people
started moving out of those neighborhoods and moving into the valley.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
I one of the things that I didn't know, dude,
Also it was the jungle. You know, if you watch dude,
can you throw that clip on of what's that movie
with Denzel Washington training day, look up training day. The jungle.
This neighborhood was a Jewish neighborhood. Before it was anything,
(47:20):
it was called the jungle. So here's the thing, is
hebro He so yes, And I've driven through this. I'm like,
I did, I drive? I drive by this all my
(47:42):
way home every day from the comedy store. So this
is to call the jungle the reason why they called it.
When I heard this, I was like, how fucking racist
to call it the jungle. But the Jewish people call
it the jungle when they were living there because of
the trees and palm trees. It look very tropical. I'm
(48:03):
sure at that. It's not a fun place to be
even in the daytime.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
The palm trees, the palm trees are there there in
that area are not are not natured or poor, are
not part of California. Those palm trees were brought in,
like we said during the water before the water area,
to let people know.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
That California is beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
We have tropical area, but we don't have palm trees here.
They don't grow here. They were also bought from a
guy in Saudi Arabia back in the day who planned
to over California.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
The history of palm trees.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
And that's separate Northern California and southern We got palm trees,
they got trees, true, but we got them all over man,
but they're not there. They were brought in. We see
when you fly into l A when you look down,
they want people to see those palm trees. So no,
it's bad as well.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
That what's the thing is it is? And I used
to think, how who cares La? You have palm trees?
Speaker 2 (49:04):
What the Jewish color of the jungle? Though? The because
of the palm trees?
Speaker 3 (49:07):
Yeah, because of the palm trees. And we have palm
trees in San Jose. We even have them in our
bad neighborhoods like we have them here. But the palm
trees in l A are like double the size. They're
fucking tall, and they're bushy and they look fucking rad
during our smoggy sunsets here. That's interesting though, that the
that they bought it off of one Arab dude during
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the water Wars, you know, to make because do you
remember that phrase that one of the things when we
were doing the water Wars was like you reach outside
and you can pick an orange from any tree. Yeah,
you know, it was like the thing that they would
tell you about California to get to get people to
move here.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Spanish missionaries first brought palm trees to California in the
eighteenth century, planting them for their biblical significance. And that's
the ornamental plants at the missions. While most palms in
California and native to the region, these early plantings were
the beginning of a tradition that grew into the late
nineteenth and early twentieth century with a large scale planting
(50:09):
project that's the one for the nineteen thirty two Olympics,
further establishing them as a symbol of son California. But they
were pleasure by the Spaniards.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
Okay, wow, Yeah. And that's the thing man is again,
I mean we you know, kind of when we do
these these ones like this, we have to dip into
other parts in history of what we've already.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Worked on an exotic appeal, bro right.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
And when we're talking about this stuff, we're talking about
La you know. And when you talk about one of
my this city is so fascinating to me because it
wasn't supposed to exist almost at all. It was a
water place. It was like it was a place that
they had a couple of huts with guys that worked
(50:57):
contracted with the Spanish military to give water to troops
on their way down south to San Diego. San Diego
was supposed to be the big California hub, not Los Angeles. Yeah,
and then and then over over time, you know, LA
started to grow a little bit, but it didn't grow
until they got to a guy named Maulholland and we
did a whole water wars on that. You guys should
(51:18):
check that out. But it kind of explains why Los Angeles.
Water is the biggest deal here in Los Angeles. And
it's not just because it's we drink it, we need it.
I mean, that's primary purpose. But this whole city was
built off of three things. Water movie, the entertainment industry,
(51:39):
and the evangelical industry also started here, which a lot
of people don't know. Oh, dude, Perry Mason, have you
ever seen the New Perry Mason? The New Perry Mason
takes place in still in the in the thirties, and
because they can't use real names in TV shows like that,
they but they do a lot of replacing of stuff.
(52:02):
They have what was her name, Amy, Amy, Amy McPherson's simple,
Amy Simple McPherson. She's in that show also, dude, it's
fucking rad. You should check out this show, man. I
keep thinking about you every time. They have the Angels
flight in it as well, and they did a lot
(52:23):
of hard work. The show didn't make it because of
the amount of money that they had to put in.
It was super expensive, but it was It was authentic
as fuck, bro, it was super huh. Yeah, I think, well,
it only was two years of the movie that was
two seasons, but the history in it. I loved watching it.
(52:48):
I'm sure my girlfriend didn't, but I love watching it
with her because I was explaining to her all the
things in l A. I was like, that's actually a
real thing that they had there where they did this.
They had to do that, dude. They show Glendale's farm
territory and there's a lady that bangs Perry Mason. Because
it's also a little more edgier version of Perry Mason.
(53:09):
There's cursing, he's fucking. There's a lot of gore, which
is why I think it didn't make it either, because
they show the brutality of the real cases. But there's
a real lady that came out of la that was
the most famous stunt flyer, and she plays a person
in this show that's banging Perry Mason, you know, because
his parents own this farm. It's a good show. You
(53:31):
guys should check it out. It's got a lot of
history of la in.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
It, Pastrama's history and Boyle Heights.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Okay, let's go.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
It's rooted in this past as a hub for the
Jewish community, which introduced a dish to Los Angeles through
Dali's like Catcher's Dally in nineteen thirties. Nice. Although the
Jewish population that's burst after World War Two due to
factors like red lightning. We're gonna do red lightning, the
culinary legacy of Postrama remained today's neghbor, with diners like
(54:00):
Golden Boil Hides continue to serve pastrami, the bro by
the way man that more than Terminator three.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
Wait a minute, where is this hat? Is it still existing?
Speaker 1 (54:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (54:09):
That's the hell that's buried that. What street is that
out there? Boil? Right?
Speaker 3 (54:18):
Boil and Caesar Chovis. Okay, I'm gonna head there after this.
Do you guys have like a favorite place to get.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
You know what, Bro, look to the hat.
Speaker 3 (54:30):
I was gonna say, the hat is my favorite chili.
The hat is my favorite pastrami place.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
The hat put the hat chili fried with They do not.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Start in Heights, but the hat is. Yeah, but they did.
They have a location in Bull Heights. I don't think so,
but they have so. Yeah. I might go to the
hat today, Bro. Actually now, yeah, they're pastramiostrami chili fry.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
I've had the what's that famous deli on the East
Coast that has pastrami that they like cats cats. I've
had cats in New York. I've had cats in Las Vegas.
It's great pastrami. Pastrami is GREATMI if good pastrami is good, Pstrami.
But I think fucking hats is way better.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Dude. You hit the hat already, Yes it's hot. Take
Bro hit the hat.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Oh fuck yeah. I hit the hat all the time.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
The one in uh in uh, South l A. There's
one in South l A that I go to and
whenever I'm near it, I fucking hit it.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
Whenever Pastrami sandwich Lucy's that's the other one. Bro, That's
like West La Jewish people.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
Okay, Lucy's Yeah, Lucy's.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
When you want a harshell tackle with ketchup in it, I.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
Gotta stay here. Oh my god, that looks amazing.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
Look Lucy's hartshell tackles.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
Okay, that's a real thing.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
That girl name, Bro. Those taco the Hard Show tacos
look like a beautiful lady named Sharon made it.
Speaker 3 (56:05):
Oh yeah they never My friend, my friend, my friend's
mom made those, dude.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
Bro, because they made their hardshow tacos there?
Speaker 1 (56:15):
Mom?
Speaker 3 (56:15):
You should make You should make tacos like like Billy's
mom Sharon. And then I get slapped across the face.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
The little postrami sign was Jim's Burgers. Bro.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
I say, burgers with pastrami have changed the way that
I eat burgers, Like, I didn't know that burgers could
get any better than they are already, But burgers with
pastrami are fucking amazing.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
Dude. That's Jim's.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
I'm gonna go to Gym's. I don't know if I'm
gonna go to Gym's or the Hat today. I'm gonna
go to one of those, though, Yeah, because I got
it now, I'm fucking got a hankering for pastroms. God
damn bro, I love pastrami. By the way. I don't
know if you know that or not about me, but
I love pastrama man. Fuck yeah, dude, good for you
(57:03):
Boil Heights for doing what you know.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
I want to know what the who started these little
yellow peppers. But the Jewish people too, huh? You little
like the Greeks, because you know, it's funny how the
Joys people started for strowomy, but when they left, the
Greeks came in and opened up the restaurants right in
their food.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
Yeah, that's pretty amazing. You mean you're talking about the
ones that they have at in and out right. Yeah,
those are so fucking good.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
That's a Califorina thing.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
It is a California I've never seen it anywhere else.
I've never even seen it in like New Mexico or Texas.
You know, we have these. I think we're the only
people who eat chili's with with with with burgers here.
I know I'm gonna get skewed in the comments for
that one.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
What they're called.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
Peppers?
Speaker 2 (57:48):
No, not banana.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Those are huge. Yeah, they're not banana peppers. Let me
look really quick. The Golden color wonder. Yeah, broadcasta what
is the origins of llow.
Speaker 2 (58:10):
Hot peppers that Burger stands California. The popularity of yellow
hot peppers at California Burger stands. It's strongly linked to
the Greek American restaurant culture and Southern California, which popularized
wow cascabella peppers, and the standard condiment changed like in
and out then helps solidify the peppers status as a
regional culinary staple.
Speaker 3 (58:32):
How did you know that that it was Greek?
Speaker 2 (58:35):
Because man, I know that Jims Burgers is owned by Greeks,
and after like the Jewish people left their day's, Greeks
came in and started opening up restaurants the you know,
with the with the fucking fifties Burgers.
Speaker 3 (58:54):
Yeah, it's interesting because you think burger is American, right,
and it is whatever, But it's funny because none of
these places were started by Americans. You know, all immigrants, dude.
When you eat hot dogs in LA, when you eat
and even in New York hot dogs, hamburgers, pizza, all
that shit, dude, all that American food served by fucking immigrants.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
Yeah. Man, if you look up the history of hamburgers
and hot dogs. Ain't nobody bro in the in the
Gilded Era was eating yeah, you know, the lowest thing
to like trash, right, you didn't know what the meat
it was.
Speaker 3 (59:31):
And hamburgers too, because the working man needed to go
have food like something in his hand while he ate, right,
so he could be on the go. That didn't sound right,
but he needed to have a handheld meal because he
was on the go. And hamburgers were invented. And I'm
almost sure we're not talking about white Anglo fucking citizens
(59:53):
on the East Coast that are working these dogs. These
are Italian immigrants, French immigrants, German immigrants, you know, probably
Jewish immigrants, Irish immigrants. Those are the people who so
when you talk about where American food came from, guess
where that came from.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Fucking what do you want to taco?
Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
What do you want to taco? Taco? Bell immigrants? Still,
I mean, delictest is a German word and it's but
or maybe it's Yiddish. I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Yeah, man, people like when I chip out, when transplants
come over here and they're eating at Tommy's Burgers and
they're eating it without the yellow pepper, Like what do
you do?
Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Or you're eating in and now without the yellow pepper?
Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Get out of here?
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
I love you, so how can you eat.
Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
How can you eat us postrami sandwich in Los Angeles
without the yellow pepper?
Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
You fucking piece of ship.
Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
You fucking That's why I know people who left Los
Angeles and complain about it. It's because they never hung
out the right people. I'm pretty sure Joe Rogan never
ate of a nice fat chili burger bro no with
yellow five ye peppers, or nobody ever took him to
(01:01:09):
the hat from a big op ASTROOMI sandwich. I don't. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
That's the thing is like, where do you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Not like tremendous?
Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Yeah? I come from a very beautiful, lovely place in California,
and I still love this place, like coming here, Like,
I'm like, this fucking place is rad. It's hard for me, dude. Yeah,
people who know me know how much I love the
Bay Area. Felipe does. I talk about it all the time.
I know, fucking I don't think anything's rad. I go
(01:01:39):
to place and I go they don't have what we have.
LA is one of the only places that doesn't have
what we have. But has other stuff that makes it
fucking rad and I don't feel and honestly, man, here's
one thing I will say about La versus anywhere I've been.
And I realize this because the government here sucks. The
cops here fucking suck. So the community is on its
(01:02:01):
own when it comes to dealing with stuff. So this
place is more communal, like. People are very community driven here,
more than anywhere else I've ever seen, dude, And people
are more apt to participate in being part of your
community here. I've watched people put quarters in my fucking
thing when I fucking in my meter.
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Yeah, I love la Dude, I love it. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
What are people history for foods Boyle Heights? I read
one paper I read.
Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I watched a lot of I watched a lot of documentaries.
There should be more on Boil Heights. There's a lady
who has a project called the at UCLA and I'm
gonna fuck it up, but it's like the Boyle Heights Project,
and it's about Jewish people in Boyle Heights. It's a
it's a very like interactive website, but it's also at
(01:03:00):
the Jewish Museum. Check it out, you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
You know who are play who? There's a Dodger player
that lived in Boil Heights, Tommy Davis. Looking up Tommy
Davis Dodgers. Mm hmm yeah, where do you grew up?
M early life, bron Okay, never mind about Willie Davis.
Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
We got a Brookn Avenue and we're gonna we're gonna
find a player that we went to live in our
late before we leave.
Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Okay, Willie Davis Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Famous baseball players out of Boyle Heights. Oh dude, there's
one huge guy Wills Fernando Valenzuela from Mexico. Oh really yeah,
it says picture Ricky Romero and for Mauri Wills m
(01:04:12):
a u r wh Oh they're honored with a mural.
Never Mind, I didn't I didn't read that part. But
from l A right, grew up in What about Ricky Romero?
Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Fuck you, bro? You know what Tommy Davison.
Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Fight someone?
Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Goddamn it. It's the bullshit.
Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Somebody went to roll about.
Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Famous baseball players who went to Roosevelt High School.
Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Please high school.
Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
Baseball players including outfielder Willie Davis and picture.
Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Yeah you said Willie Davis.
Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Yeah, Willie Davis put in.
Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
MLB outfielder Willie Davis.
Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
I knew what was right.
Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Because that's yeah, that's it. He's an outfielder.
Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Okay, who Bill grew up in l A?
Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Right, it has to be, bro. It's the same guy
he done in Burbank, Willie Davis from l A outfield picture.
Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
He done in Burbank in the sun Dove City like
a g that's city.
Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Yes, no, no, it was not at all. I don't
know who fucking said their neighborhoods around their were the
neighborhoods around there were.
Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Fuck dog, what a racist place to live?
Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Yeah, dude, well at the time, and not no more. Bro,
it's it's a mecca. It's a mecca. L A is
a mecca. Not born in Los Angele, That's not fucking true.
I just asked the same person you're asking, Okay, high school,
Los Angeles. He grew up, Yeah, he grew up here. Hey, bro,
(01:06:11):
I don't give a funk where you're born. It's where
you grew up, dude.
Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
I didn't raised roots.
Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Yes, banged the chicks all right, fucking finally got to
the bottom of that one history for.
Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Fools, Davis, honorable Boyle HI member.
Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Oh I got to give out a shout out to
a dono one more time, man, and this guy loves
us a ton. Let me just fine, dude, I just
want to make sure I give the the proper Chris Herrera,
thank you one more time. Man. Your funds are going
to go to a good cause. I buy books with these,
I buy I buy materials for for writing and for
(01:06:49):
researching all the all the projects. So I appreciate you,
man one more time, sending me out a dono. I
love you, bro, and uh, I love all you guys,
thanks for watching this.
Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Thank you very much. Man to that dude from Quiet Kings.
Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Oh yeah, also Tyler from Quiet Kings, Bro, fucking shout
out to you Quiet Kings and surf Rider. You guys
are fucking rad. Thanks for fucking giving us lacing us
up with some dope dope for twenty products.
Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
We love you.
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