History Hotdish Ep. 31 - Nancy Guy, the Governors' Residence

Kate Waldera talks to Nancy Guy about the North Dakota Governers' Residence.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to History Hot Dish, a casual conversation about the
historic people and events that give Bismarket's unique flavor. History
Hot Dish is brought to you by the Bismarck Historical Society,
a local nonprofit whose mission is to learn, preserve, and
promote the history of Bismarck. Sit back, turn up the
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Welcome to another episode of History Hot Dish. I'm your host,
Kate Waldera, a member of the Bismarck Historical Society's Board
of Directors. Today, my guest is Nancy Guy, and we
will be discussing a special home, the Governor's Residence, which
welcomed nine North Dakota governors, including Governors John Davis, William Guy,

(00:47):
Arthur Link, Alan Olsen, George Sinner, Edward Schaeffer, John Holven,
Jack Dalrymple, Doug Burgham and their families for more than
fifty years from nineteen sixty to twenty seventeen. Nancy, I'm
so excited and glad to welcome you to History Hot Dish,

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and thank you for sharing your time with us today
and for all audience that's listening. Please share us, share
with us a bit about yourself, your background, and why
you're interested in preserving and promoting our city's rich history.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Well, Kate, thank you for having me here. I just
love that former governor's residence that was torn down, and
I think it was sad to do that, because we
tore down a significant amount of our cities in our
state's history. Our family was the second family to live

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in that home. Davis's were there for less than a year,
and then we moved in with five children for twelve years,
and so it's the first home that I remember when
I think back on it, and then the ensuing governors.
There is so much that happened there, and I just

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think it's shameful that we tore it down, but we
did so now we should remember it as much as
we can. I am the youngest of those five kids
that moved in the house.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, some of our listeners may not realize that your father,
William Guy, was the twenty sixth governor of North Dakota
and that he served for twelve years from nineteen sixty
one to seventy three. So those four terms as governor
tells me a couple of things, many positive accomplishments on
his part and satisfied citizens. Would you like to share

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with our audience some notable memories from your father's time
as governor of North Dakota.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Well, so I was less than two years old when
we moved in the house. A fair amount of those
twelve years I was just busy being a little kid.
But there are some things that are very entrenched in
my memory. And some of those were some of the
famous people that.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I was just going to ask you about that.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yes, they came to visit us in Hubert Humphrey, for example,
and his wife Muriel. They were good friends of mom
and dad, and he was a senator from Minnesota and
of course later Vice President of the United States. And
I know they were at our home numerous times, and
there are pictures of me sitting in his lap, you know,

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as a little kid. And then Bobby Kennedy came, and
you know, I'm not clear if that was when he
was the Attorney General or if he was a senator.
I believe it was after John Kennedy was assassinated because
there was secret service with him. But he was another

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really interesting person and he was very interested in us kids.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Well, obviously because he had a lot of kids at home.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Right, right, and so I distinctly remember meeting him. And
then Lawrence Welk was with us numerous times, and there
are also pictures of me sitting in his lap as
a little person. And he and his wife became good
friends of mom and dads, and they came here and

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put on shows from time to time, and they would
stay with us. And when Mom and Dad went to
California in later years on vacation, they would stay at
Welke's home in California. So that was another relationship that
they formed. And then I do also recall that, and

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I didn't know about this until he returned home, because
you know, they thought it best nut tell the little
one because she might worry. But Dad did go to
South Vietnam as an election observer for President Johnson, and
it was a really tense time because the North Vietnamese
were trying to prevent this election from happening.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Oh. Yes, that was an ugly area of the world
at that time, with all the conflict and fighting going on.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yes, and there were, of course, there was a schedule
for this delegation of people observing the election, and they
were going from one polling place to another sort of
inspecting things, and several of those polling places were bombed
before they got there because they the delegation got was

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laid in their travels and so they just sort of
missed the timing of the bombing. And I did find
it odd that Dad was gone for two or three
weeks and our minister kept showing up at the house.
Why is he here? And it's because these things were happening,
and just.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
To be a comfort to the family and right, but
you were just you know, why isn't Dad here? Where
is Dad?

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Well, he was frequently gone, so that in itself was
an odd but it was sort of odd that he
was gone for the length of time he was gone.
But that was the first time that the United States
did something like that with an election, and so that
was really kind of a he was making history. But

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he was well known for his bipartisan approach to governing.
You know, I don't think he ever had well, maybe
he had one legislative session where there was a majority
of Democrats in both houses. The rest of the time,
it was probably pretty evenly split between Republicans and Democrats,

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and he seemed to get things done with people from
both parties, and I know that he appointed people from
the Republican Party to state agencies and to boards and
committees because he felt that they were qualified to do
that work. He was very much a moderate in his

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political thinking. In fact, as I was an adult, he
would ask me from time to time how I got
so radical.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, it sounds from what you're saying that he was
a consensus builder. He liked to find a way where
both parties may not necessarily get what they wanted, but
could come together and agree on something.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yes, And he had a master's degree in economics, and
so that was sort of his approach to everything. And
I think it's a pretty good approach, because even though
he might feel very passionately about something, he felt that
if he could make a very logical argument for it,

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and it made sense from an economic standpoint, and it
was hard to argue against it. And I think he
was probably right about that.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Excellent. Well, you mentioned some of the famous people that
came to the governor's mansion. Can you think of any
other ones that stood out for you other than the
ones that you've already mentioned? Hmmm, Because you mentioned Robert Kennedy,
was there any maybe with John Kennedy or would that

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have kind of predated any interaction with him, might have
predated his governorship.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yes, that was before Dad was Well, no, he came
here when Dad was governor, but he came to Grand Forks. Oh,
he didn't come to the house.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Okay, gotcha.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, because there are photographs, so, yes.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I remember. And he was in Bizmarck and I think
that was when he was.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Campaigning, Yes, when he was a senator, because.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
There was a pick sure at the public library by
the front desk about him walking down the street. Yes,
and I'm thinking Davis must have been governor at the
time before your dad. Yeah. Dad tells a story about.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Being out on our farm and he was walking between
the pig barn in the house, which is kind of
a long walk, like a block and a half if
you were in town, and he was walking by one
of our outbuildings that had a phone in it that
had a party line and it was ringing, so he thought, well,

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I'll pick it up. And here it was someone from
Kennedy's campaign asking if he would if he would chair
Kennedy's camp presidential campaign in North Dakota, and Dad said, well,
he was a legislator at the time, and he said, well,
I plan on running for I think he wanted to

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run for agg commissioner and they said so he said, no,
I won't. I can't. I won't have time to be
doing that, and they said, well, okay. And so actually
he went to the convention and he came out of
that Democratic Convention as the candidate for governor. That was

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not his plan, but that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
And the rest is history. Yes, absolutely well, as many
of our listeners know, I'm being governor of North Dakota
means living in the house on the state Capitol grounds.
Today's residents first welcome Governor Bergen and his wife Catherine
in twenty eighteen. And the former resident, which was located

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just south of the current facility, was your home from
the early sixties into the early seventies. What was life
like in the early years in that house. What kind
of fun thing or mischievous things or just interesting things happened?

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Well, there was a ton of interest in that house
because it was brand new, and it was very expensive
when it was first you know, when it was built,
I want to say it was a couple of million dollars.
So if you think of that in nineteen fifty nine,
that was really quite exorbitant, and so people wanted to

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come and see the house, and Mom and Dad felt
like it was the people's house, and so they tried
to do tours of the house as often as they could.
And I believe the statistic is that in the first
year there were twenty four thousand people that came through
the house on tours. Oh my gosh, So you know,
that would to me, that would mean there were tours

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more than once a day, five days a week. And
I think Mom realized that that was just unsustainable because
the people that worked in the house couldn't get their
work done and we couldn't have a normal family life
in a house that was constantly being you know, toured
by other people.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Absolutely, I mean the home basically was not your home anymore.
It was like almost a tourist attraction in a way.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yes, and so they did scale it back quite a bit,
but there were always it was not uncommon to come
home from school and you know, I could hear a
tour in the state end of the house at the
other end, and so I got, well, we all got
pretty skilled as they came down the hallway and they

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were in the kitchen. We would go into the hallway
and as they came out the kitchen into the living room,
we're in the kitchen, and so you.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Were just tailing behind them, staying out of sight.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yes, yes, so that was a little bit different. That
was not your average experience in a normal house. But
you know, on the other hand, Mom and Dad tried
to make it as normal as possible for us. And
I recall, you know, lots of playdates with my kindergarten
friends at their house and at our house. We had

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an especially kid friendly basement because it was unfinished until
I think nineteen seventy one, and so it had cement
walls and floors and you couldn't hurt it, no, and
it was large enough so if you're a little kid,
you could ride your trike down there in the wintertime,
you could roller skate, you.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Could do just about anything that you wanted to down there.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Oh wow, So that was kind of fun. You know.
We built little forts with blankets, just like other kids
doing stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I do.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Mom couldn't figure out why there there was a dirty
close shoot in the hallway by the kitchen that went
downstairs to a counter in the in the laundry room,
and she couldn't figure out why that the chain that
held that door, you know open when you were stuffing
things down, was always broken. And it was because my

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older brother started this. He thought, well, I wonder what
would happen if we lowered Nancy down that launch.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I was just thinking, oh my gosh, they stuffed little
sister down the shoot.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Well, so then we thought that was kind of fun.
And so then even for example Bud Sinner's family he
was later governor, they were friends of ours all our
lives because mom and dad knew them from their life
on the farm. And so Mary Joe Sinner, who graduated
from high school with me and Castleton, has gone down

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that laundry shoot before.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Kids won't think of is it's a little scary.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Well yeah. And then the treed area between the residents
and the Capitol building was just per fit for building
tree forts, you know, in these huge lilac bushes. And
you know, I used to take my brother's boy scout tent,
pup tent and camp out there with a friend, you know,

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on a Friday or a Saturday night. And I don't
know if I'd let my little kid do that nowadays.
But nobody seemed to worry, and nobody ever bothered us.
There's never anything.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Because the property wasn't fenced like it is now, and
anybody could come up that driveway. It was almost just
like a regular residence on the street.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, and so that was fun. And then my older
brothers were fourteen and twelve years old when they moved
off the farm. And I know that my older brothers
and sisters loved the farm. It was pretty idyllic there,
and so moving from there into this fish bowl existence
was not a happy thing for them. Oh.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
It took a lot of assessment on their part, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
And so my brothers were active trappers on the farm.
Dad would pay them for the gopher tales. You know
that they trapped gophers. So they continued to trap gophers
in the trees around the house.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
And Dad kept paying them for the gopher tales.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Like I said, what kids won't think of it. It's
pretty frightening sometimes what they come up with.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, But you know again, Mom and Dad tried really
hard to make our time in that house as normal
as possible. And you know, I didn't know any different.
So I did understand that my friends' homes and their
lives were different than mine. But I am so grateful

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for those people that you know, welcomed me into their
homes because it was really a welcome respite from some
of the weirdness of living in that very public place.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Like you said, it was a fish bowl tour groups
coming through, and no other family would have to put
up with that, No in that, but being in us,
being the governor of North Dakota, and being in the
mansion of like you know, living there, it was a
lot to absorb as a child.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
I'm sure well. And here's one example of how different
it was. You think about a kitchen in the sixties, right,
So our kitchen had two stovetops, so ten burners all together,
and vent woods above them. There's a big griddle in
between that you could do pancakes and stuff on. There

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were two sets of double ovens in the wall. There
were two double stainless steel syncs with a commercial dishwasher
in between them, and tons of counter space. It just
does a little kid. It seemed to go on for
miles to me. Amazing amount of cupboard space because there

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were all there was all of this silver and different
kinds of dishes and things like that that needed to
be stored.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
For the special events and the guests that you would
have in your home.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, and then there was two refrigerator freezer units in
there that were sort of like the big sub zero things.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
So not your normal kitchen.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
No, So it was kind of interesting when we moved
out of that governor's residence into a regular home and
what I know mom, Mom actually insisted on having. It
was a house we built, and Mom insisted on having
two ovens in the kitchen, and I think Dad thought
that was really extravagant and she put her foot down,
and so that kind of ruined me.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Well, and to me, it would make sense to you know,
to have two ovens. You have a large family and
m hm, you know holiday meals and stuff. Yeah, you
want to have that luxury.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Well, when we first moved in that house, there was
no Moms has told me there was no budget for entertaining,
and you know, entertaining is really kind of part of
the job. Dad did a lot of sort of dinner
table diplomacy, and there was no budget for table linens,
so there were no table cloths, there were no place mats. No,

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there was silver and crystalline and china. And so mom,
having a fashion design degree, thought, well, we have this
table that could stretch out. I think it could seat
thirty two people if you put all of the leaves

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in it. Well, where do you find a tablecloth for
thirty two people? And so she ordered drapery material perfect
and it was so much much less expensive than having
a custom tablecloth made. And so that drapery material then

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turned into a tablecloth of several sizes, you know, so
that they could, depending on the size of the group,
they could appropriately cover the table. And then I believe
she also had place mats made out of the same
sort of type of material and probably napkin.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
She got creative, yes she did.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
And I forget where I'm kind of going with this,
but oh yeah, they just they So then there was
also not a lot of catering to be done. So
when there were big dinners and the like, then we
had staff in the kitchen that was, you know, doing
all the cooking. And if there was a coffee party

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or a tea party, all those little cookies that go
out there were made in our kitchen and stirred in
our freezer downstairs, and we phone that you could go
in there and shut the door and open the freezer
and no one would know anyone was in that room,
and you could eat frozen cookies out of the boxes.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
And here they think they've got all these cookies for
the special events, and they open the box up and
it's like half empty. Exactly, Oh, you stinkers.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
And Mom thought it was my older brothers and they
got in trouble for it. And of course we little
girls never said.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Word, not a peep, not a peep for funny. I
love it, I love it. Oh well. A reminder for
our guests that have just joined us. You're listening to
History Hot Dish on Radio Access one oh two point
five FM. I'm your host, Kate Waldera, and today my

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guest is Nancy Guy, and we're talking about her memories
of living in the North Dakota Governor's Residence in the
sixties and early seventies. So, as you've eluded many times,
growing up in the Governor's residence was quite an experience
for you and your friends and family members. Are there

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any other fun memories and stories you can share with
our listeners, Like, was there anything that related to having
pets in the home or trying to have a pet
in the home, or some of the things that you did,
like well, you've already mentioned rating the freezers of the
special cookies. What other kinds of mischievous things went on.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Well, we desperately wanted a pet, and of course Dad
was a farmer at heart, and animals just weren't allowed
in the house. And every animal had a purpose. So
cats on the farm were in the barn and they
had a purpose there. And we had a dog that
helped with sheep, and he lived in a doghouse outside,

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and so the idea of having a cat or a
dog in the house just.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Really was not something that wrap his mind around.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
No, Plus, it was not our house, and so he
didn't want you any h yes, And so finally we
convinced him that a dog would be a good idea,
and so we did take a dog on on approval.
Let's say, for we are going to take him for

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two weeks and see how he would work out. And
I think he was about a year old. He was
a standard poodle and his name was Poco, and he
was I think he was probably a really nice dog,
but he was a dog, you know, and so he
did things that dogs do and Dad, I don't think

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that dog made a week in the house, and he
went back to where he came from. So we continued
the pressure on Dad and he finally said, well, okay,
well you can have a cat. So we adopted a
Miami's cat.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
We'll try another species. Yeah, that works out better.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Well, we had had turtles and goldfish before that, but
you know, they don't last very long, that's.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
True, and they're contained little aquarium.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
So so so we try the cat. And we had
Sam for a few years. He was and he was
a nice cat, and then sadly he got hit by
a car on Fourth Street. So then poor Dad, we
talked him into one one cat for my older sister
and one for me. O.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
No, there must have been you learned diplomacy, well, tabletop
per diplomacy.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Anyway, those cats just really bothered. They just drove Dad
crazy because of course, you know, cats will gravitate towards
people who don't like them. Actually, dogs do the same thing,
trying to win them over or annoy them. I think
in the case of cats, it's just to irritate them.
But so they Dad's favorite chair was this Kennedy style

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rocker in the living room. Then it had had a
cushion on the seat, and so the two cats would
curl up on that cushion all day long. And Dad
would come home and he'd tip the chair forward and
the cats would jump out, and he'd sit down and
watch the news and read the paper, and he'd stand
up in the seat of his suit pants. It's just
covered in cat hair. And he knew this was going

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to happen every time he sat down, but he kept
doing it, you know, and then he'd stand up and
be irritated. And then we down in the state end
of the house. We always wanted it to be prepared
for the next event. So they would vacuum a pattern
into the carpeting. And the cats were everywhere in the house.

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It was really hard to keep them out of some place.
And so most of the time they would go to
start something and there would be all these footprints on
that carpet, or they had laid in one of the chairs,
you know, And so the cushion wasn't just so anymore.
And of course there was cat hair on the cushion,
and so we would have to de hair, yes, and

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so Walter doctor, who was had so many jobs at
that house. He was Dad's security officer, and he was
our driver, and he ran the household and he just
would shake his head. It was kind of those darn cats.
I don't think that's what he said, but it's what
he meant.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
The family friendly version of what he said.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yes, yes, so, but again, you know, that was something
that kind of helped make the house normal, and I
had I can remember having parties down in that unfinished
basement when I was in middle school, and it was
so much fun because you know, again you can't hurt it,
and so we would have we'd play records on this

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old stereo we had down there, and by that time
we had a pool table with a bare light bulb
above it and so we could shoot pool and had
some old ratty furniture from the farm down there, so
it was, you know, it was a great place for that.
We had slumber parties upstairs in the family living room.
We'd make popcorn and s'mores in the fireplace there. And

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the holidays, the house would Mom would enlist the help
of interior decorators to decorate the house for Christmas, and
then they would do some entertaining or have special tours
for Christmas, and it was always I always thought it
was just magical, so beautiful, and there were legislative receptions

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that time of year, and so oftentimes the Christmas decorations
were sort of winter decorations, so you could leave them up,
you know, until the session was over, leave them up
until maybe March. But we used to have carollers that
would come to the door at Christmas time, and I

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remember having caroling parties when I was young. Oh that
was so much fun. And we'd come home and have
hot apple cider and donuts. Missus Wald, who worked in
our kitchen, made the best cake donuts, Oh my gosh.
And we'd go sledding at the Capitol Grounds where the
Heritage Center Amphitheater is now right. It was about the

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only hill that was steep enough to get a good
speed going. And Halloween, oh my gosh, we had massive
numbers of trigger treaders.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Oh my god, because it was just open entry, just
up the.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Driveway, and we would have we would go through like
a dozen grocery bags, those brown grocery bags full of candy.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I can believe it. Every but almost every little kid
in Bismarck probably showed up at the door.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah, and it got to be so big that we
finally moved it from the family end of the house
to the state end of the house, which had a
bigger door away and was further into the driveway so
that they could actually have someone at the front at
the mouth of the driveway directing cars through so it
could be a little bit more orderly. But yeah, it

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was a big deal and it was fun. And then,
you know, I did learn to cook and bake from
my mother, but I also learned a lot from the
ladies that work in the kitchen, baking buns and bread.
And again, you know, the most affordable way to manage

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all of this was to make it all ourselves, as.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
To dry to buy it from the grocery store or bakery,
who would have been much more expensive.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah, and so it was fun hanging out with those ladies.
And I'd just get pressed into service to mom and
have me polishing silver and wiping the hand washed dishes
that couldn't go through the dishwasher and stuff like that.
So there were chores to be done.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Well. Yeah, just because you were the governor's kids didn't
mean you didn't have tasks that needed to be helped with. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah, but so I just it was a lovely experience
for me. Like I say, I don't know that my
brothers and sisters appreciated it very much, but I dearly
loved it.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah. Well, you were so young when you moved in
that it basically was the only home you had known
up until that, you know, until the early seventies when
your father when the governorship changed mm hmm, and then
you had to move out and go back. Did you
go back to the farm afterwards?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
No, we didn't do that. We built a house in Castleton, Okay.
And I went to high school in Castleton, And of
course I thought I'd been dragged to the end of
the earth because I had my heart set on being
a demon. At at BHS, I'd been taking dancing lessons
and stuff, and your dreams were crushed.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
They were.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
And I although I would say about three quarters of
the way through my sophomore year in Castleton, I decided
it was going to be a really good place to be.
There were only sixty seven kids in my graduating class
versus maybe six hundred here in Bismarck, and you.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Could forge more relationships, the numbers weren't so big, and
you could you would know everybody.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, and everybody really had to participate in everything because
if you because they're just weren't enough people if you didn't.
So you know, it was easy to be on the
basketball team or the football team or you know, we
might not be very good, but who cared, you know,
because some of these other people tell me anyway, Yeah,

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they weren't any better than we were. But you know,
the marching band and choir and stuff like that. You
didn't have to audition for those things.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
You just did it. You just show it up and participated. Well, Nancy,
thank you so much for sharing some of these wonderful
and fun and funny memories of life in the governor's
residence for our listeners. Would there be a place where
someone who wants more history or wants more information about

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the history of North Dakota governors and the buildings that
have served as their homes over state's history. Is there
a place that people can go for more information?

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Well before they tore down that governor's residence, Betsy Dalrymple
did write a book called Building a House, Making a Home,
a History of the North Dakota Governor's Residence and that
was published in twenty fourteen by Friends of the North
Dakota Governor's Residence, and the proceeds went to the friends group.

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And I believe you can still buy it. I had
more than one printing and you can obviously google it,
but it's probably also for sale at the Heritage Center
gift shop.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, I remember a group that I belonged to. We
had a program at the Governor's Residence and Missus Dalrymple
was a very gracious hostess, and she talked about the
book and then we got a tour. I think it
was right before its fate was, right when it's fate
was sealed. She really wanted people to experience the Governor's

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mansion before it was no longer. So it's wonderful that
that history has been at least saved in the book form. Well.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
And when the book first came out, my older sister,
deb Igo and I kind of went on a book
tour with Betsy, going to lots of events and talking
about the book and talking about our experience living there.
And that was really a fun series of events. And
you know, I have to say that Dalrymples all the

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years that they were living in that home were very
very kind to us and understood how much we loved
the place, so we were invited there frequently. It was
very nice of them, wonderful.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Well again, thank you Nancy for this walk down memory lane.
We appreciate it. Thank you so much. You're welcome.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
You're welcome.

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