August 1, 2025 • 50 mins
1988 – 1990 are years of unsolved murders for Texas and Virginia. The Zodiac Killer style communications seem to ramp back up during this time, but California seems to have very few unsolved murders during this time. Is it because Jack made roots that he is not willing to jeopardize? More solves to follow the communications, and incidents of letters not yet identified or seen.
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Speaker 3 (00:52):
Good morning, True seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back
to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.
I'd like to welcome to the show. Nolan del Campbell,
Good morning, everybody. Good morning. Oh my goodness. I've got
a lot that we're going to hopefully be getting out
here today, lots of information. I'm going to actually start
(01:14):
with Halloween of nineteen eighty seven. This is about where
we left off in Jack's life. But we'll go ahead
and throw that PowerPoint presentation up and show you some
of the Halloween pictures. This is October thirty, first of
nineteen eighty seven. Denny and his families don't know. Denny
is Jack's biological son, is taking pictures in Jack's home
(01:35):
on Halloween. This is the last known picture that I
had of Denny and Jack's life and kind of confirms
that Dennis had indicated Jack and Denny had had some
falling out and we're no longer speaking or at least
not talking for some time until after Dennis had turned
Jack into the FBI. Then for whatever reason, they began
speaking again. We also noted that Denny was a composite
(01:59):
man based on Dennis's you know, composite from Lake Barriessa
of the second individual that was supposedly seen lurking in
the background of the Lake Barriessa attacks. But I thought
it was interesting to note that the Halloween costumes for
the kids this particular year is a magician and a ghost.
(02:21):
And it was kind of more or less the fashion
of the way they placed this sheet and then tied
the rope around the neck, because when we get into
the Texar Cana Phantom, I was like, huh, We've got
this guy that's got this sack over his head with
a rope tied around it in most of the images
(02:43):
that they have for the Texar can of Phantom Murderer.
And then as I'm doing some research, I find this
makeshift hood here and it says survivors of the Phantom
Killer attacks described him wearing a hood with eye holes,
and if this is their description, I don't know. This
was just somebody. I don't know why anybody would arbitrarily
throw something together unless they were trying to mimic what
(03:06):
the witnesses saw. But if we take note to it,
it's square on top Nolan, just like the zoe. Yeah, yes, right,
So I'm not sure if we can rely on this
visual aspect, but this would suggest that the makeshift hood
from the texar Cana phantom murders was either mimicked or
(03:28):
the same person made that good for the Zodiac killings.
And of course you can see it buckling all over
all of the other images on the top, like we
would expect the squarelan on the Zodiac to buckle as well,
because it had four or it had had the corners
and it was straight and square across the top. I
thought that was extremely interesting, huh. So I did actually
(03:52):
put it towards So here we have a rendition of
the Zodiac hood and we see the buckling at the
top and it has that square affect. That's the same
type of buckling we're seeing on these other images for
the Texarcana phantom murders, And of course here is the
hood that Dennis found, which of course again is cornered
out in square at the top, just like what this
rendition was purportedly described by the victims of the Texar
(04:16):
Cana phantom murders. So just interesting stuff. Right November thirty
at the nineteen eighty seven we see thirty eight year
old jazzber Singh on the thirty two hundred block of
FM one nine, Pinehurst, Texas. So we're seeing murders back
in Texas. Employed at Tubular Protection of America, which is
(04:37):
a commercial oil tool plant making thread protectors out of
polyurethane for the oil industry. I probably threw that in
here just because of the relation to the oil industry
that we've seen throughout much of this presentation. He was
acting as a night watchman due to burglaries and thefts,
so he's a security guard basically, and he's struck by
(04:58):
an object several times and then stout to death. And
the only thing that was taken is a business type telephone,
it says in an electronic scale that had been stolen
from the shop. I wrote next to that mess scale
question mark, I mean they wanted a phone and a
scale that seems like a lousy reason for somebody to
lose their life. In December, I think.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
They were trying to disguise it as some sort of robbery.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Right. Well, in December of nineteen eighty seven, Jack and
family are still on Kirby Way, so we know he's
still in the Sacramento area, and he is visiting Mary
and Stockton on Christmas Day. We get to see some
of those pictures in his belongings as well. But the
murders seemed to be kicking off and picking up in
Magnolia in Conroe. I mean, it all seemed to be
(05:50):
definitely a serial killer operating in one particular area, because
it seems like this is an awful lot of murders
to have one area have, and it'd be so many
different people killing. Does everybody just love to kill in
Conroe and Magnolia? Right? So this was January seventeenth, nineteen
eighty eight, Rainforest Road at Penguin Road, Clear Creek Subdivision
(06:13):
in Magnolia, Texas. He resided at the sixteen hundred block.
I don't see, I don't even have a name for
this person. Let's see if we come across block of
Berkland Street in Magnolia, Texas. January sixteenth to six pm.
Met a female friend at Cherry Parkway in Houston, Texas
to play bingo. This is all the Houston to Magnolia
(06:35):
connections that we've seen. Left the Bengal Hall at approximately
ten thirty pm. En route to home. Husband reported okay,
so it's her husband reported or missing. I don't know why.
I don't have this female's name in here. Missing to
the MSCO. At eight forty five am. On the seventeenth,
approximately two twenty pm, a resident of Clear Creek Subdivision
observed her brown nineteen eighty three Chevrolet Suburban parked at
(06:58):
the end of the Rainforest Road at Penguin Street in Magnolia.
Her dead body was found inside the car, strangled with
a bungee type cord and last information I had on
it was the NCSO is going to be testing DNA.
I don't know if there's any results from that as
of yet.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
What Why would the husband wait so long? The reporter Lissie.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Well, eight forty five so she must have been found, yeah, right, well, yeah,
isn't that weird? Yeah? Unless he was sleeping and didn't
wake up and woke up to find you know, I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
What from that's like ten hours sleep more than ten hours.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Well, if she left the Bingo Hall at ten thirty,
he could have fallen asleep at ten right and slept
until the morning when he woke up and discovered she
wasn't home. I don't know why not me, I don't
even I don't even hear the words coming out of
your mouth. I am a strict do not text me
(08:05):
before nine am? Roll Okay, yeah, So and maybe maybe
he's a good sleeper. Maybe, you know, he thought she
was hanging out after I don't know what time. He
also presumed that she was coming home. You know, at
what point does it become she's not coming home versus
she just is hanging out with friends afterwards or something.
(08:28):
There could be a lot of reasons for it. There's
also unideal it was. I would have to run the
date in Google to know what that is. Yeah, but
on January seventeenth, on the same time in nineteen eighty eight,
or well, actually, I'm sorry, in nineteen ninety eighty four earlier.
(08:51):
The murder occurred, but the body was found unidentified. Human
skeleton remains woods off League Line Road two point four
miles west of I forty five in Conro, Texas. So
back to Conro. It's back and forth, back and forth.
Magnolia Conroe jaw owned by a hunter scouting hunting locations.
He took it to a dentist who declared it human.
(09:12):
The MCSO searched and found more bones that were examined
by experts. They had a possible description. White male, forty
years of age, five foot four, taller, with numerous teeth
having been extracted, remains, probably in the woods for four
years plus. MCSO ran DNA through COTIS and found that
it was male instead of female as previously thought in
(09:35):
nineteen eighty eight. But that's the extent of why do
I feel like I lost something in my hearing? Huh okay?
So that brings us to our next female in Dublin, California,
which is Eileen Micheloff. This one is not on the
(09:55):
Sandy Bets map. I did not find anything in Dublin
or even Dublin list on that map, so this was
probably an outlier I picked up elsewhere. So it says
the disappearance of Eileen Micheloff on January thirtieth, nineteen eighty nine,
thirteen year old Dublin teenager Eileen Mitcheloff was abducted while
walking home from Wells Middle School. She was last seen
(10:18):
at approximately three pm that day walking alone on Amador
Valley Boulevard near Village Parkway. Her key fob was later
found near the entrance to John Maple Park, along the
route she normally took to her home. At the time
of her disappearance, Eileen had braces, pierced ears, freckles on
her cheeks and the bridge of her nose, and a
small lump on the inside of her left ankle. She
(10:38):
was last seen wearing a charcoal gray pullover Esprie Polo sweater,
a pink and charcoal gray skirt with horizontal stripes, and
black low top kead sneakers. It sounds to me like
she probably came from an upper middle class family based
on nineteen eighty eight and wearing things like a spree
those were things that my my family didn't own. We
(11:01):
didn't own like brand name clothing. Anniversary walk, So for
over thirty years, on the anniversary of her disappearance, a
community candlelight vigil and walk was held in Dublin to
keep Eileen's memory alive in the hope that someone someone
could remember something that will help provide information as to
her kidnapping impossible whereabouts. Following the passing of Eileen's mother,
(11:24):
Maddie missile Off, the traditional walk will no longer take place. However,
Dublin Police has shared messages from Eileen's father, Mike Mitcheloff,
and former Dublin Police Chief Nate Schmidt. The investigation into
Eileen's k kidnapping continues in the hope that she will
one day return home safely to her family. And it
gives you some links if you want to message the
(11:45):
Dublin Police Chief Nate Smith Schmidt, and if you wanted
to message Mike Mitcheloff, which is Eileen's father, and anybody
with information regarding her disappearance should contact the Dublin Police
Sergeant Craig Evans at nine to five eight three three
six six seven zero and all tips will remain anonymous.
It says, so some details behind her disappearances. Let's see
(12:10):
what we've already done.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
That.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
So, she was walking home in Dublin on January thirtieth,
nineteen eighty nine, at three pm after her classes concluded
at Will's intermediate school. Several classmates reported seeing Eileen walking
alone on Amanor Valley Boulevard near Village Parkway and the
Shamrock shopping Center in the afternoon. She vanished shortly afterwards.
She was taking a short cut home, going through a
(12:33):
wide alley behind a shopping center. This kind of reminds
me of Sherry Joe Bates being a student that was
killed in an alleyway next to the school. She was
taking her shortcut home going through a wide alley behind
a shopping center, a furniture store called Sawmill and Gallagher's
Pub win across the boulevard, oh then across the boulevard
(12:53):
and through John Mate Park along a dry creek bed.
Eileen has never been seen again. She was carrying a
dark blue bead at the time of her disappearance. The
backpack was later found abandoned in the creek bed in
John May Park. So this is kind of like, I
don't know if this was a robbery attempt or why
they felt they need to kill her, but strewn belongings
(13:15):
as it leads away from the body is kind of
something we see with a lot of these murders. You know,
the killers just basically dumping stuff along the freeway as
he's leaving out from the area that the body's been left.
It was located in the area that had already been oh,
so the backpack was later found abandoned in the creek
(13:35):
bed and John Park near where she was last seen.
It was located after the area had already been searched,
so the authorities believe someone may have placed it there
after Eileen's disappearance. So basically they did the search and
then somebody came back and dumped her stuff afterwards. One
possible suspect naden in Eileen's disappearance is Timothy Bender Bindner,
(13:57):
who was also investigated for possible connections to the disappearance
of Amanda Niki Nicky Campbell for many years. Bidner was
also considered a suspect in the nineteen eighty eight disappearances
of Amber Schwartz Garcia, which I think that's a familiar
one everybody remembers, from Pinol, California, and Mikayla Grrect from Fremont, California.
(14:17):
He was never charged in any of the cases, maintains
his innocence and successfully sued Amanda's hometown of Fairfield in
nineteen ninety seven for defamation of character. So clearly, I
mean he's not the person he stayed around and fought,
all right. So we had two letters that were in
the FBI foy of files. I have not seen these letters.
(14:39):
I could only type up and put into the presentation
the information that was found on the letter or I'm sorry,
the files from the FBI. And there are two letters
that went out to McDonald's, one on February first, nineteen
eighty eight, and one on February eighth, nineteen eighty eight.
And it begins, this is the Zodie and it's postmark Chattanooga, Tennessee.
(15:03):
I couldn't make out the entire see well, it does
say addressed to McDonald's to Northgate Park, Chattanooga, Tennessee, three
seven three four three. The second one was addressed to
the same exact location, attention Dan R. Written on graph
paper front and back, accompanying from McDonald's profile change notice
with the hand printed message this is shit. So does
(15:28):
a zodiac have a problem with McDonald's. I think that,
like literally. The reason why I put these in here
is that Harriet used to work for McDonald's and she
would tell a story about the one of her coworkers
who purportedly received mail at the McDonald's that she was
currently managing, but she was off that day, and that
(15:51):
employee opened up the mail and ingested some time she
believes anthrax, and then had subsequently went home and died
from it. And then, of course she describes that has
Matt was around, you know, all these things were going on.
She believed that she was being targeted and her father
had also passed I want to say, somewhere around nineteen
(16:13):
ninety or maybe even right here in this eighty eight
ten ninety era from what she also believes was anthrax
as well. He received a package in the mail, opened
it up and supposedly this powder came out, and she
said that he basically bled out sitting at the chair
at the table. Again another has Matt situation. Her dog
(16:33):
became ill from this particular exposure that her father died from,
and when the dog was treated at the hostel at
the veterinarian clinic, he was given cipro. Zipro is the
is basically the antioty. I guess.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
This is one of Harrie's coworkers at the Sandals.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yes, wow, oh not these not these McDonald's. She was
working at McDonald's in San Francisco. Oh, okay, so the
letter come to the letter went to McDonald's in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
Well it was postmarked Chattan. Well, yes, it's postmarked and
sent to McDonald's in Chattanooga, Tennessee. And it's saying that
(17:23):
this is a zodiac So it could just be a copycat.
I don't know. I haven't seen the letter to be
able to do it, but we know that they're hiding
letters from us at this point from ninety six or
eighty six, nineteen eighty six on law enforcement and FBI
and everybody is withholding these images from US.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Where's this maybe anthrax mail to which McDonald's was that
San Francisco, San Francisco, Okay?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Correct? And so dying right?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Correct? Wow, that's crazy, right.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
And her father was formerly a merchant marine who evidently
she believes, had some inside knowledge of lots of happenings,
cleanups and things that the military would do, like in
the areas of like the seven thirty one unit seven
thirty one with Ishi where he was in Japan, I
(18:17):
believe or China. He was doing bio warfare basically on
his own people on prisoners of war. They busted him,
broke up the camp. From my information, it shows that
they gave all the scientists a free ride to America
to trade information. But they would do things like feed
and thracks or sipless or cut off your arm to
(18:40):
see how long it took you to exaguate. They were
doing some horrible, horrible things to people, and it was
basically genocide on top of anybody who was a prisoner
of war or any other race. It was all inclusive
of all kinds of people. So we couldn't perform those
tests here in the United States, but we know that
we're really big on helping out those that will share
that information with us, which is kind of ekey that
(19:04):
we would do that. Bring them here, give them houses,
give them benefits, get them set up, give them jobs
if they trade their information of how to kill people. Wow.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yes, the recruitment of the Japanese scientists and whatnot and
medical people wasn't as big as Operation paper Clip with
the Germans, but it happened.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
That's adea.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
It's in the book about Frank Olsen. There's some stuff
about that.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Right right. And it was called that was Unit seven
thirty one. I definitely some things just stick in your brain.
I don't know how I keep half this stuff up here.
So anyways, Harriet believes her dad died from anthrax. She
believes her coworker opened up a letter intended for her
because she was the manager normally doing handling the mail,
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and that she was supposed to have been targeted with it,
and that her dog had also fell sick and was
given cipro. And sipro is the anna by audict that
they give you when you've been affected by anthrax.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
So yeah, And she even at one point in time,
I don't know if I still have the picture, but
she had sent me the picture of the actual bottle
that was given to her to her dog, and it
definitely said sip Ro on it.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
At one point, this is a little off the track,
didn't you?
Speaker 5 (20:21):
And Dennis in uh, Jack shed container containing some suspicious substance.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yes, it breaked us out, Yes, it freaked us out.
In the end they took Yes, In the end they
determined that it was either the cremation some of Jack's
remains I believe, I think is what happened. So all
I know is that when Dennis opened up the bag
(20:50):
that it was in. He said that whatever was so
foul and basically robbing him of his breath, he couldn't
like even breathe. And he popped it over and saw
that it was a white powder, immediately closed it back up,
turned it over to the FBI, and they in turn
turned around and said that I think it was remains
or ashes, so maybe lying they.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Are concealing what they.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Actually found exactly. And it was in a film.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
You want to keep Dennis and you in the dark.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Well, and it was in a film, counister. We know
that Jack was big on photographs and film and and
things like that. It was I don't, I don't know
who takes remains and remains. He wouldn't. He clearly wouldn't,
so either somebody else did. I don't. Yet none of
it made any sense.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It was reds, yeah, or maybe it was someone.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Else's maids, right right, there's so many what ifs. I'm
glad you remembered that. So many things have happened in
this case. So On March twenty second of nineteen eighty eight,
twenty four year old Darryl Wayne Caid in Nakuska Street
textabus subedsion FM fourteen eighty four Conro, Texas. Associates left
(22:04):
with kid, who later told the family that they had
dropped Kate off at his request at the Montgomery County
Fairgrounds located on FM fourteen eighty four outside of Conroe, Texas.
Foul play is suspected. He's a white male. Date of
birth seven four sixty three. When reporting missing, he was
five foot nine, two hundred pounds, brown hair and brown eyes,
mustache and beard, a tattoo that said love star with
(22:27):
a star. He was a mechanic and the DNA identifies
remains in twenty ten, so they must have found the
remains at some point. I just don't know when, uh,
because that was the missing date. But in twenty ten
they were able to identify those remains. On April third
of nineteen eighty eight, on Easter Day. Jack is known
(22:48):
to spend Easter in Texas with his mom. I used
to have pictures of when Jack was in Texas because
he would ultimately take pictures with Mom and the family
and everything when he's there for the holidays. And I
at one point in time, with all of these unsolved
murders that Dennis had given me, I was able to
actually locate pictures of Jacks that would indicate he's in
(23:12):
these areas during this time. So this March twenty second murder,
maybe not, but the April ninth, that's relatively close to
Easter Day once again. So I always wondered if when
he went to Texas, you know, he didn't get some
of his inter aggression out. I don't feel like he's
doing a lot of killing back in California while he's
working for Hewlett Packard, But would he go to Texas,
(23:34):
hang out with the family and he disappears all the time.
He's very good at it, disappear to you know, take
advantage of his little sick traits, and then come back
to California and he's not even being looked for because
he's not even in the state anymore. So this one
is on April nineteen, nineteen eighty eight, Cassandra Lee Hayley
(23:55):
and Richard Keith call missing Persons. So a couple that
goes missing on Colonial Parkway in Virginia. We definitely also
have a serial killer obviously operating in Virginia. We're going
to hear several of these missings and murdered victims all
from the same location. Just like Conroe and Magnolia, we've
got something operating in Colonial Parkway, Virginia as well. So
(24:19):
they went missing after driving home from a party and
their vehicle was found abandoned on the parkway the next morning.
Law enforcement theorized that suspect posed as an officer in
order to get them to pull over. We know that
Jack was operating as a security guard at this point
in time, so again he looked like an officer, and
that was also something that was suspected in the I
forty five killing sightings as well. On April ninth of
(24:42):
nineteen eighty eight, we've got Jane Doe that's found in
a rail yard on Southern Pacific Railroad in Texas. She
was beaten on the head Railway death McKee McKee Street
Railroad yard, one hundred yards off the seven hundred block.
On June second, in nineteen eighty eight, sixty year old
Leon's slide of Creekwood Drives, Flendora, Texas, body discovered by
(25:03):
residents out for a walk on Creekwood Drive. Lived in Houston,
Texas and worked as a security guard. He was beaten
to death and identified through fingerprints. June third, nineteen eighty eight.
His car is found on the parking lot of the
clem Manor Apartments in the fifty three hundred block of
Coke Street, Houston, Texas. Car was stripped and containing large
amounts of blood on the back seat. Huh. Just scary.
(25:30):
July tenth of nineteen eighty eight. With this, I think,
is that police officer that you were talking about in
San Francisco that was murdered. You had mentioned or said
something I think last week about Lester Arnier.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I don't know if it's the same one, but what
I thought was earlier, years earlier, like in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I think there was one that was shot sitting in
his car, right.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, I was writing a ticket or something.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, So this one was just another one that was shot.
And I don't really have a lot of Yeah, I
don't have a lot of information on him, but we
do show murders in obviously San Francisco for the murder map,
which included more murders from Sandy Betts maps than just
Paul Stein. It included some prostitutes, other women. There's several
(26:21):
people that individuals suspect the Zodiac could have been responsible
for this one. Probably not even closely related. I just
bring it up because of the involvement of high power people.
And speaking of high power people, I just finished watching
the Jeffrey Epstein Filthy Rich docuseries. I also watched the
(26:46):
Gilaine Filthy Rich one as well. Let me just tell
you that I was absolutely flattery acid at the response
from law enforcement in regards to these cases. It does
appear as though they are trying to just strictly create
the image that Epstein is the only monster in this
(27:07):
and that, and that Galine is, you know, the feeding
of the monster basically by bringing the girls in so
it looks like literally everything's being dumped in their laps.
But the reality is is that you don't become this rich.
You don't go from being a nobody somebody who gets
fired from his job on the stock market because he's
fiddled around with his expense reports and is cheating the
(27:29):
company out of money. He get fired from that. Then
do you know what was the name of the guy
that he did the Ponzi scheme with four hundred and
eighty million dollars? Obviously mob right made No, I don't
think it was made off. He actually appeared on the docuseries.
He did only I think seven years in jail, only
(27:51):
seven years in jail for stealing four hundred and eighty
million dollars worth of people's money. That in itself was
absolutely shoh.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
On this officer. So it says Walnut Creek. So he
was found in Walnut Creek. His body.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I again, the information is like super limited.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Okay, because he was SFPD officer, but it says Wallet Creek,
so I don't know, right, So he must have talked
about was early seventies and he was found in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Okay, yeah, no, this one is saying Walnut Cred But
he was an SFPD officer at least that's what they've
got tagged underneath his picture here.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
So anyways, the September sixth, nineteen eighty eight murder of
twenty eight year old Julie Ward happens in Massaimara Game
Reserve in Kenya. Now it says did not attend a
farewell dinner that night before departing for Africa. Her dismembered, dismembered,
and burned body was found deep within the reserves boundaries
a week after she was reported missing. Her father's efforts,
(28:55):
John Ward uncovered evidence that led Kenyan officials to believe
she was murdered. Horner's reports were altered to mask human
involvement in her murders. So now we've got people manipulating
This is why I brought up the Epstein stuff. We've
got high ranking people manipulating the evidence. Safety for the
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Kenyon tourism industry, there is high power. Officials like former
President Daniel moy has not been inclined to convict anyone
to this day. And I don't know if that means
that they had suspects, but the fact that they refused
to literally indict anybody or to attempt to convict anybody
of this crime is again back to what we saw
(29:39):
happening with the Epstein stuff. You know, we had girls
as early as nineteen ninety six that reporting to law enforcement,
and who knows, maybe some had reported before that, but
those that are on record that came out and actively
spoke and consistently told the story of what a monster.
Epstein was started in nineteen ninety six, and that got
my wheels click. You know, you're sitting here researching stuff,
(30:02):
you're looking at things. I'm a gas at the US
attorney that actually gave him a plea deal behind the
victim's backs, so that he did not have to go
into court and reveal any information whatsoever. He was given
eighteen months, did twelve months, but was literally walking free.
He was let out on what they called work project
for twelve hours a day of his twelve month sentence.
(30:25):
I was like, what the hell, Yeah, so he's basically
free all day long. He just went there to sleep,
and of course he had a cushy, nice, you know,
unit to himself kind of thing. It was all really
kind of disgusting at any rate. When my wheels started clicking,
I was like, when did we lose a Hollywood madam
(30:45):
who also didn't have to give up her list? Right?
I looked back and Heidi Flice in nineteen ninety six.
Now she's not convicted of trafficking women, which she should
have been. She ended up ultimately being in and convicted
for tax evasion, but before that she was high up
in the media. She ran shows for the media. She
(31:09):
wasn't just a matam. That was just a subset to
who she really was and what she had going on.
So she was on TV, she was in the media,
she was on the radio, She was high up there
with these people, providing women for those that wanted to play.
And that's no different than what Jeffrey was doing. So
you've got this nobody, he's nobody in nineteen ninety four
(31:30):
to ninety six, and then all of a sudden, he
is now somebody, and he is recruiting. They're bringing in
females left and right. I was kind of astonished to
see that they weren't really trying to push the narrative
that there are people on his list. They would occasionally
throw a picture up of Clinton with him, or with
(31:53):
Trump with him, or you know, other individuals, but they
never really pressed the issue that all these hundreds of
girls had been also farmed out to other people, not
simply not simply Epstein's delight, right, and then Dershowitz, I
go ahead, I'm really.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Inclear on the sources of his income. But now he
built his He had some really that'sive oldies. I mean,
Arry Lord was really exclusive. He was like a palace
on an island, a place in New York.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
How do you get that? Yeah, how do you get that?
With well, he committed the Ponzi scheme, obviously with the
gentleman that went to jail for seven years four hundred
and eighty million dollars. And this man sits on their
snickers and says he didn't turn Epstein in as part
of it. There's a reason he couldn't. He couldn't use
Epstein as a fall guy at this point because Epstein
(32:50):
was too important to too many high ranking political figures,
elite people, royalty. I mean, we saw Prince Andrew is
all wrapped up in the middle of it. There is
just so much and the attorney Dirshwitch is up there.
I never slept with a child, but you've got this
woman over here saying I slept with him five or
six times. Now, he's a nasty old man. Women don't
(33:11):
just up and pop up and say I slept with
something nasty unless they truly did that.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
That's shamers lost comebacks.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Mm hmm. Well, he consulted. He for whatever reason, couldn't
be the attorney, so he consulted as part of the
team that Epstein had. And Epstein was literally intimidating all
of the witnesses. He was having them followed, he was
having them stocked, he was having them approached, he was
he had teams of Pi's out there just running amok,
(33:45):
trying to intimidate absolutely every single witness in this case.
And the fact that the US attorney would not indict
him for child trafficking and the things that they really
legitimately should have done, means that they were also told,
you are not going to touch this guy. But I
think what happened is it became so publicly known that
the pressure was on they had to do something, and
(34:08):
we see the FBI pick up the investigation from New
York and he is finally convicted, ultimately goes to jail,
purportedly commits suicide, but an autopsy shows that his hyoid
bone had been broken in two places, and that it
was impossible from the position that he was hanging off
of his bed to have created that type of a
blow to that area of the neck, even in a strangulation,
(34:31):
a slow strangulation would not have broken those bones. So
there is now theories, obviously that he was murdered to
keep information silent.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Hice, He's funny because right now Trump was trying to
distance himself and conceal evidence and whatnot about englists or anything.
But he doesn't hesitate throwing Clinton under the bus.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
No, he doesn't. He used to be a huge supporter
of Clinton.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
How does Trump know Clinton went to the.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Well, there's pictures, there's pictures. There's also a groundskeeper that
actually saw Clinton there sitting on the porch. So there's
definite information. So to say that we just went to
this island which only is known for screwing, oh'll say
that politely. Yeah, what are you doing over thee? You
(35:22):
didn't touch no little girls? Come on, Clinton, we know
that you like little girls. You had Monica Lewinsky, a
young intern and underneath the table of the Oval office,
who are not stooping people? And stop treating us like
we are? Yeah, all right, September nineteenth. I think that
was the end. Let's see. Oh no, that was not
(35:46):
the end, all right. Jeffrey Epstein's this got even more interesting.
Jeffrey Epstein's only client that he had supposedly to make
money from in his I don't know if he was
doing stocks or manipul like folio management or what. His
only his only client that he had his ad non
(36:07):
Cogosi Cogoshi. Now the reason why this is interesting, huh?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
And he was involved in he ran contra atfair.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
He was awesome, right and He also was being looked
at by the FBI in connection with Babe Roboso for
human trafficking THERFOIA files on it, I went, what the hell,
and we talk about Baby Roboso because of the John
Walsh stuff, like, the links are just absolutely astronomical. Actually,
(36:41):
Baby Roboso was super good friends with Nixon, so Nixon
was joining him on his getaways and things like that.
So yeah, I just thought that that. And of course
I think Adnin is the royalty from India. No, he's
little sure, Middle Eastern.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Saut In Arabia or Georgia.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Oh yes, I believe you might be right, But he's
royalty again, just like we these are awesome sick people
and it goes all the way up the freaking So
basically we've gotten again in the middle of Epstein, politicians, mobs,
media's uh syndicates, high ranking political officials. It just it
just goes on, you guys. It all fits into scheme.
(37:26):
And this is why I look at these things in
the Zodiac case, because these people are above reproach. Period.
You're not going to get them until the entire public
is pressing for it.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Years ago, at Old Sach, we were deposing an attorney
named Robert Radcliffe, and one of the other attorneys asked,
do you know add doc Shogi is closed?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yes, I know add On So.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Not only did he know, it was on a first
name basis with him and this ratup guys Crooked as
well of course represented my client formerly uh crooked by
the name of Henry van Buren, who's who's a scammer went.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
The federal prison anyway, just a little aside.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Well, and it just really takes me aback because it's
clear that these people will use and abuse anybody without
means in order to facilitate their needs and desires. And
I don't see the Zodiac episodes as anything any different.
They will kill even to protect their stuff.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
But I think Epstein did have some other powerful clients.
I mean, one of them is in the docuseries. I
forget his name, but he's a New York businessman, I think,
and I think his name starts with an A.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Aaron Center or something like that.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Yeah, I'm wondering if that's the one that he committed
the Ponzi scheme with. And here's crazy. When he was
fired from his job on the stock market because he
was stealing an embezzling money through his expenses. He was
picked up by this guy that committed the Ponzi scheme
on purpose, he said, because he liked that type behavior.
(39:01):
He literally went and looked for him because he heard
this guy was smart and he's also unethical. He also
is unmoral, immoral, and he was exactly what he needed
to complete his Ponzi schemes. So these people are specifically
looking for an individual just like this, and I think
that's how he got recruited to that level of he's
now the basic madam. I feel like he took over
(39:24):
Heidie Feiss's job.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Because he never graduated from college, yet he got all
these high powerful positions on Wall Street and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
And dealing with He lied, he lied together, he lied
and said that he had Yeah, so he's he's the
perfect person because he's immoral and unethical and he's going
to lie right up the ladder and then becomes one
of the richest men in the world, one of the
richest men in the world, rubbing elbows with royalty and presidents.
(39:56):
Come on, now, come on, and we know Trump likes
young women, right, haven't they all been, you know, extremely
young whatever? All right, So September nineteenth, nineteen eighty nine,
we have a Jane Doe east side of Houston, estimated
to be fourteen to nineteen years old. Her estimated time
(40:17):
of death is approximately one to three months at this point,
so clearly we're looking at August, June, maybe June somewhere
around there. June to August. They're suspecting that she had
died or September. I point out Jack was in the
area for an unnoticed amount of time in nineteen eighty nine,
(40:37):
so he's back and forth to Texas. October seventh, nineteen
eighty eight. Twenty twenty two year old Suzanne Rene Richardson
in Cassa Delmark Condominiums is a missing person. I'm not
sure why this one ended up in here other than
I was, you know, cross connecting some donal last condominium car.
The car the twelfth victim card from the Zodiac had condominiums,
(41:04):
I think so. I think so, but I couldn't narrow
it down because Cassa del Mar has condominiums all over
the place, even all over the world. So basically, a
sleeping coworker in a room above the lobby heard a stream,
so she must have been working at the CASA del
Mar and a coworker that was sleeping in a room
above the lobby heard a stream and a slamming car
(41:27):
door at six thirty am, then another screen before hearing
the car drive away. So disappeared from her job while
working in the lobby of the condominiums, which is kind
of again that's reminiscent of Donna Lass going missing from
her work the Sahara Casino. Gabriel Soda was thought to
have had a connection to this case, but suffered an
(41:48):
apparent drug overdose. Her shoe was found in the parking
lot and scratches on the lobby door. Her body has
not been found, so she's still listed as missing. What
time do we have? Ten forty three? All right, so
Christmas in nineteen eighty eight, still at the Curry House,
Jack and the family we see here Don, his brother
(42:09):
is visiting for Christmas. Of course he was also Don
was also listed as living in Roseville in nineteen eighty
per Jack's paperwork, so they are probably living close to
each other at this point, but he was originally in
Riverside for most of his time in California. February fifth
of nineteen eighty nine, we see that Jack is back
in Texas. He's taking a picture of his mom's house,
(42:32):
which to my to my belief is that he purchased
this house for his mother based on Dennis's recollection, so
he's here. We also we're also seeing developed film from
May of nineteen eighty nine where Jack is with the
family in Texas again at a barbecue. And this maybe
(42:53):
Easter in April or March, because the tag on the
back of it says May of nineteen eighty nine, and
you can see it's a family function and get together.
And as I'd indicated, he's usually there for Easter. So
we are seeing him back in Texas via his own pictures,
and this picture says, oh, can I read it? It's
very February fifth, nineteen eighty nine something covered. This is
(43:22):
basically the property and they ended up moving a mobile
home onto it, and an approximately Easter time on April
fifth and nineteen eighty nine, we had thirty seven year
old Valente m Garcia. However, I'm going to caution that
the finale note to Tim Miller indicated he did not
kill anybody Hispanic, so this is likely somebody else because
I tend to believe when he says he didn't do something.
(43:44):
It's the did he do something thing part that I question.
She was killed on Bee Creek Road in Willis, Texas.
She was originally from Houston, Texas. She was shot numerous
times at that location. And of course I had just
indicated Tim Miller know hispanics, Oh my gosh. Then the
(44:04):
murders just pick up here, pick up here. So we
have another another set of what they refer to as
the stoneman murders, only this time it's in Bombay, India.
Or I'm sorry, this time it's in Calcutta, India. So
the first one was in Bombay, India, and basically they're
stoning to death homeless people. I did not map quest
(44:25):
this to say how far they were apart, right, But
it sometimes I feel like some of this stuff was
done just to sell newspapers, just to sell hype, or
to distract from something political that's going on, Like there's
always it seems like it's always coinciding with something that's
saying look over here, not here. And meanwhile the medias
(44:47):
and the syndicates are making mass amounts of money off
of running these stories. Then that's that this is four
years apart too. So what we've got a serial killer.
If we suppor pose that one person did this, he
took a break for four years, came back, did it again,
and then never did it again or before, it just
(45:07):
seems rather odd. I'm just gonna go out today and
kill twelve homeless people with rocks and then go back
to my normal life for four years and then pop
back up in another location and kill more people with rocks.
Very strange. Nineteen eighty nine, Anna, Marie Phelps and Daniel
Lauer went missing driving Colonial Parkway, Virginia. Here we've got
(45:27):
another couples gone missing. Bodies were found on a nearby
logging road. A month later. Law enforcement dear ized suspect
posed his officer to get couples to pull over again.
September nineteenth, nineteen eighty nine, fourteen to nineteen year old
Jane Doe, number four, east side of Houston, Texas estimated, Oh,
I've already gone over this one. Why did this end
(45:49):
up back in here? Let me go backwards and see
what I did wrong? U? Oh yeah, so September October, Oh,
I see what I did wrong. I have it in
the wrong location there. I'll have to make that change.
Because she died in eighty nine, not eighty eight, and
I had her in the eighty eight series. All Right,
(46:11):
gottped October thirty first, nineteen eighty nine. Twenty to thirty
year old unidentified male skeletal remains, Nakouska Street again. All right,
March eighteenth of nineteen ninety. Yay, we're in ninety. This
is the Gardnerville heist. I don't have a lot of
information on it. Harriet really honestly believes that this group,
(46:34):
whoever runs the Zodiac group and the people involved, committed
this heist some very high end art, I mean million
dollars worth, millions of dollars. She thinks it was a
compilation of an insurance job, make somebody pay. Somebody wanted
this art. They sole several pieces, and there was a
security guard involvement, And I think that's why she's trying
(46:57):
to kind of tie it together with Jack. I'm not sure,
but we know that we're going to see another separation
here very shortly between him and Nora. So I don't
know what's going on, but he ends up back in
Texas again. So March twentieth of nineteen ninety, we have
thirty years of age Beverly Sue Demmler, reported missing in
(47:17):
Harris County, Texas. Human skeleton remains found by hunters on
November tenth, nineteen ninety one, are identified in two thousand
and one by dental records, and she died from blunt
forced trauma to the head. Right now July of nineteen
ninety we can see that Nora and him are still together.
Via this picture. Jack is traveling again. This picture shows
(47:40):
it says metro city. I tried researching and looking this up.
I did see a metro city in the Grand Canyon area.
It says our trip. This could potentially be Arizona, or
Atlanta or even Texas. So I found metro city in
three different states, but all states that I say Jack
(48:01):
is possibly connected to. Nineteen ninety ancestry dot com shows
Jack's address as a PO box as seven five seven
two to one, Dallas, Texas. So why does he have
I've said this before, he keeps and carries po boxes
in Oklahoma, in Texas in strange locations obviously that he's
(48:23):
not living in. But he's having things mailed to them.
And what's being mailed, you know, one of one of
the uh one of the crime shows that I watch
actually implicates a travel company as being an undercover death
squad basically, and their their operatives would pick up their
kills and the information on those kills at a PO
(48:45):
box at one of those mailbox like et cetera type facilities,
definitely not inside the post office, but in one of
those other ones, and that's where they would go to
pick up the sheets of information on who they were
supposed to kill. So I thought that was interesting. Is
Jack keeping peo boxes all over the place, And a
lot of these communications, especially when we come up here
to the John Walsh ones, you're gonna hear about po boxes.
(49:09):
He's act the author of the letter is specifically talking
about owning a PO box. So all of it again
runs in tandem. Oh well, we were pretty much thirty
seconds out from finishing this off. Are you going to
be back at one, Nolan?
Speaker 2 (49:24):
You guys, I'll be back at one all right.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Well, everybody take care, have a wonderful weekend. We will
see you next Friday. Thank you, Nolan.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Okay, bye bye. Yeah,
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Good morning, True seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back
to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.
I'd like to welcome to the show. Nolan del Campbell,
Good morning, everybody. Good morning. Oh my goodness. I've got
a lot that we're going to hopefully be getting out
here today, lots of information. I'm going to actually start
(01:14):
with Halloween of nineteen eighty seven. This is about where
we left off in Jack's life. But we'll go ahead
and throw that PowerPoint presentation up and show you some
of the Halloween pictures. This is October thirty, first of
nineteen eighty seven. Denny and his families don't know. Denny
is Jack's biological son, is taking pictures in Jack's home
(01:35):
on Halloween. This is the last known picture that I
had of Denny and Jack's life and kind of confirms
that Dennis had indicated Jack and Denny had had some
falling out and we're no longer speaking or at least
not talking for some time until after Dennis had turned
Jack into the FBI. Then for whatever reason, they began
speaking again. We also noted that Denny was a composite
(01:59):
man based on Dennis's you know, composite from Lake Barriessa
of the second individual that was supposedly seen lurking in
the background of the Lake Barriessa attacks. But I thought
it was interesting to note that the Halloween costumes for
the kids this particular year is a magician and a ghost.
(02:21):
And it was kind of more or less the fashion
of the way they placed this sheet and then tied
the rope around the neck, because when we get into
the Texar Cana Phantom, I was like, huh, We've got
this guy that's got this sack over his head with
a rope tied around it in most of the images
(02:43):
that they have for the Texar can of Phantom Murderer.
And then as I'm doing some research, I find this
makeshift hood here and it says survivors of the Phantom
Killer attacks described him wearing a hood with eye holes,
and if this is their description, I don't know. This
was just somebody. I don't know why anybody would arbitrarily
throw something together unless they were trying to mimic what
(03:06):
the witnesses saw. But if we take note to it,
it's square on top Nolan, just like the zoe. Yeah, yes, right,
So I'm not sure if we can rely on this
visual aspect, but this would suggest that the makeshift hood
from the texar Cana phantom murders was either mimicked or
(03:28):
the same person made that good for the Zodiac killings.
And of course you can see it buckling all over
all of the other images on the top, like we
would expect the squarelan on the Zodiac to buckle as well,
because it had four or it had had the corners
and it was straight and square across the top. I
thought that was extremely interesting, huh. So I did actually
(03:52):
put it towards So here we have a rendition of
the Zodiac hood and we see the buckling at the
top and it has that square affect. That's the same
type of buckling we're seeing on these other images for
the Texarcana phantom murders, And of course here is the
hood that Dennis found, which of course again is cornered
out in square at the top, just like what this
rendition was purportedly described by the victims of the Texar
(04:16):
Cana phantom murders. So just interesting stuff. Right November thirty
at the nineteen eighty seven we see thirty eight year
old jazzber Singh on the thirty two hundred block of
FM one nine, Pinehurst, Texas. So we're seeing murders back
in Texas. Employed at Tubular Protection of America, which is
(04:37):
a commercial oil tool plant making thread protectors out of
polyurethane for the oil industry. I probably threw that in
here just because of the relation to the oil industry
that we've seen throughout much of this presentation. He was
acting as a night watchman due to burglaries and thefts,
so he's a security guard basically, and he's struck by
(04:58):
an object several times and then stout to death. And
the only thing that was taken is a business type telephone,
it says in an electronic scale that had been stolen
from the shop. I wrote next to that mess scale
question mark, I mean they wanted a phone and a
scale that seems like a lousy reason for somebody to
lose their life. In December, I think.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
They were trying to disguise it as some sort of robbery.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Right. Well, in December of nineteen eighty seven, Jack and
family are still on Kirby Way, so we know he's
still in the Sacramento area, and he is visiting Mary
and Stockton on Christmas Day. We get to see some
of those pictures in his belongings as well. But the
murders seemed to be kicking off and picking up in
Magnolia in Conroe. I mean, it all seemed to be
(05:50):
definitely a serial killer operating in one particular area, because
it seems like this is an awful lot of murders
to have one area have, and it'd be so many
different people killing. Does everybody just love to kill in
Conroe and Magnolia? Right? So this was January seventeenth, nineteen
eighty eight, Rainforest Road at Penguin Road, Clear Creek Subdivision
(06:13):
in Magnolia, Texas. He resided at the sixteen hundred block.
I don't see, I don't even have a name for
this person. Let's see if we come across block of
Berkland Street in Magnolia, Texas. January sixteenth to six pm.
Met a female friend at Cherry Parkway in Houston, Texas
to play bingo. This is all the Houston to Magnolia
(06:35):
connections that we've seen. Left the Bengal Hall at approximately
ten thirty pm. En route to home. Husband reported okay,
so it's her husband reported or missing. I don't know why.
I don't have this female's name in here. Missing to
the MSCO. At eight forty five am. On the seventeenth,
approximately two twenty pm, a resident of Clear Creek Subdivision
observed her brown nineteen eighty three Chevrolet Suburban parked at
(06:58):
the end of the Rainforest Road at Penguin Street in Magnolia.
Her dead body was found inside the car, strangled with
a bungee type cord and last information I had on
it was the NCSO is going to be testing DNA.
I don't know if there's any results from that as
of yet.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
What Why would the husband wait so long? The reporter Lissie.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Well, eight forty five so she must have been found, yeah, right, well, yeah,
isn't that weird? Yeah? Unless he was sleeping and didn't
wake up and woke up to find you know, I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
What from that's like ten hours sleep more than ten hours.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Well, if she left the Bingo Hall at ten thirty,
he could have fallen asleep at ten right and slept
until the morning when he woke up and discovered she
wasn't home. I don't know why not me, I don't
even I don't even hear the words coming out of
your mouth. I am a strict do not text me
(08:05):
before nine am? Roll Okay, yeah, So and maybe maybe
he's a good sleeper. Maybe, you know, he thought she
was hanging out after I don't know what time. He
also presumed that she was coming home. You know, at
what point does it become she's not coming home versus
she just is hanging out with friends afterwards or something.
(08:28):
There could be a lot of reasons for it. There's
also unideal it was. I would have to run the
date in Google to know what that is. Yeah, but
on January seventeenth, on the same time in nineteen eighty eight,
or well, actually, I'm sorry, in nineteen ninety eighty four earlier.
(08:51):
The murder occurred, but the body was found unidentified. Human
skeleton remains woods off League Line Road two point four
miles west of I forty five in Conro, Texas. So
back to Conro. It's back and forth, back and forth.
Magnolia Conroe jaw owned by a hunter scouting hunting locations.
He took it to a dentist who declared it human.
(09:12):
The MCSO searched and found more bones that were examined
by experts. They had a possible description. White male, forty
years of age, five foot four, taller, with numerous teeth
having been extracted, remains, probably in the woods for four
years plus. MCSO ran DNA through COTIS and found that
it was male instead of female as previously thought in
(09:35):
nineteen eighty eight. But that's the extent of why do
I feel like I lost something in my hearing? Huh okay?
So that brings us to our next female in Dublin, California,
which is Eileen Micheloff. This one is not on the
(09:55):
Sandy Bets map. I did not find anything in Dublin
or even Dublin list on that map, so this was
probably an outlier I picked up elsewhere. So it says
the disappearance of Eileen Micheloff on January thirtieth, nineteen eighty nine,
thirteen year old Dublin teenager Eileen Mitcheloff was abducted while
walking home from Wells Middle School. She was last seen
(10:18):
at approximately three pm that day walking alone on Amador
Valley Boulevard near Village Parkway. Her key fob was later
found near the entrance to John Maple Park, along the
route she normally took to her home. At the time
of her disappearance, Eileen had braces, pierced ears, freckles on
her cheeks and the bridge of her nose, and a
small lump on the inside of her left ankle. She
(10:38):
was last seen wearing a charcoal gray pullover Esprie Polo sweater,
a pink and charcoal gray skirt with horizontal stripes, and
black low top kead sneakers. It sounds to me like
she probably came from an upper middle class family based
on nineteen eighty eight and wearing things like a spree
those were things that my my family didn't own. We
(11:01):
didn't own like brand name clothing. Anniversary walk, So for
over thirty years, on the anniversary of her disappearance, a
community candlelight vigil and walk was held in Dublin to
keep Eileen's memory alive in the hope that someone someone
could remember something that will help provide information as to
her kidnapping impossible whereabouts. Following the passing of Eileen's mother,
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Maddie missile Off, the traditional walk will no longer take place. However,
Dublin Police has shared messages from Eileen's father, Mike Mitcheloff,
and former Dublin Police Chief Nate Schmidt. The investigation into
Eileen's k kidnapping continues in the hope that she will
one day return home safely to her family. And it
gives you some links if you want to message the
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Dublin Police Chief Nate Smith Schmidt, and if you wanted
to message Mike Mitcheloff, which is Eileen's father, and anybody
with information regarding her disappearance should contact the Dublin Police
Sergeant Craig Evans at nine to five eight three three
six six seven zero and all tips will remain anonymous.
It says, so some details behind her disappearances. Let's see
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what we've already done.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
That.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
So, she was walking home in Dublin on January thirtieth,
nineteen eighty nine, at three pm after her classes concluded
at Will's intermediate school. Several classmates reported seeing Eileen walking
alone on Amanor Valley Boulevard near Village Parkway and the
Shamrock shopping Center in the afternoon. She vanished shortly afterwards.
She was taking a short cut home, going through a
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wide alley behind a shopping center. This kind of reminds
me of Sherry Joe Bates being a student that was
killed in an alleyway next to the school. She was
taking her shortcut home going through a wide alley behind
a shopping center, a furniture store called Sawmill and Gallagher's
Pub win across the boulevard, oh then across the boulevard
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and through John Mate Park along a dry creek bed.
Eileen has never been seen again. She was carrying a
dark blue bead at the time of her disappearance. The
backpack was later found abandoned in the creek bed in
John May Park. So this is kind of like, I
don't know if this was a robbery attempt or why
they felt they need to kill her, but strewn belongings
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as it leads away from the body is kind of
something we see with a lot of these murders. You know,
the killers just basically dumping stuff along the freeway as
he's leaving out from the area that the body's been left.
It was located in the area that had already been oh,
so the backpack was later found abandoned in the creek
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bed and John Park near where she was last seen.
It was located after the area had already been searched,
so the authorities believe someone may have placed it there
after Eileen's disappearance. So basically they did the search and
then somebody came back and dumped her stuff afterwards. One
possible suspect naden in Eileen's disappearance is Timothy Bender Bindner,
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who was also investigated for possible connections to the disappearance
of Amanda Niki Nicky Campbell for many years. Bidner was
also considered a suspect in the nineteen eighty eight disappearances
of Amber Schwartz Garcia, which I think that's a familiar
one everybody remembers, from Pinol, California, and Mikayla Grrect from Fremont, California.
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He was never charged in any of the cases, maintains
his innocence and successfully sued Amanda's hometown of Fairfield in
nineteen ninety seven for defamation of character. So clearly, I
mean he's not the person he stayed around and fought,
all right. So we had two letters that were in
the FBI foy of files. I have not seen these letters.
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I could only type up and put into the presentation
the information that was found on the letter or I'm sorry,
the files from the FBI. And there are two letters
that went out to McDonald's, one on February first, nineteen
eighty eight, and one on February eighth, nineteen eighty eight.
And it begins, this is the Zodie and it's postmark Chattanooga, Tennessee.
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I couldn't make out the entire see well, it does
say addressed to McDonald's to Northgate Park, Chattanooga, Tennessee, three
seven three four three. The second one was addressed to
the same exact location, attention Dan R. Written on graph
paper front and back, accompanying from McDonald's profile change notice
with the hand printed message this is shit. So does
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a zodiac have a problem with McDonald's. I think that,
like literally. The reason why I put these in here
is that Harriet used to work for McDonald's and she
would tell a story about the one of her coworkers
who purportedly received mail at the McDonald's that she was
currently managing, but she was off that day, and that
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employee opened up the mail and ingested some time she
believes anthrax, and then had subsequently went home and died
from it. And then, of course she describes that has
Matt was around, you know, all these things were going on.
She believed that she was being targeted and her father
had also passed I want to say, somewhere around nineteen
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ninety or maybe even right here in this eighty eight
ten ninety era from what she also believes was anthrax
as well. He received a package in the mail, opened
it up and supposedly this powder came out, and she
said that he basically bled out sitting at the chair
at the table. Again another has Matt situation. Her dog
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became ill from this particular exposure that her father died from,
and when the dog was treated at the hostel at
the veterinarian clinic, he was given cipro. Zipro is the
is basically the antioty. I guess.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
This is one of Harrie's coworkers at the Sandals.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yes, wow, oh not these not these McDonald's. She was
working at McDonald's in San Francisco. Oh, okay, so the
letter come to the letter went to McDonald's in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
Well it was postmarked Chattan. Well, yes, it's postmarked and
sent to McDonald's in Chattanooga, Tennessee. And it's saying that
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this is a zodiac So it could just be a copycat.
I don't know. I haven't seen the letter to be
able to do it, but we know that they're hiding
letters from us at this point from ninety six or
eighty six, nineteen eighty six on law enforcement and FBI
and everybody is withholding these images from US.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Where's this maybe anthrax mail to which McDonald's was that
San Francisco, San Francisco, Okay?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Correct? And so dying right?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Correct? Wow, that's crazy, right.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
And her father was formerly a merchant marine who evidently
she believes, had some inside knowledge of lots of happenings,
cleanups and things that the military would do, like in
the areas of like the seven thirty one unit seven
thirty one with Ishi where he was in Japan, I
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believe or China. He was doing bio warfare basically on
his own people on prisoners of war. They busted him,
broke up the camp. From my information, it shows that
they gave all the scientists a free ride to America
to trade information. But they would do things like feed
and thracks or sipless or cut off your arm to
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see how long it took you to exaguate. They were
doing some horrible, horrible things to people, and it was
basically genocide on top of anybody who was a prisoner
of war or any other race. It was all inclusive
of all kinds of people. So we couldn't perform those
tests here in the United States, but we know that
we're really big on helping out those that will share
that information with us, which is kind of ekey that
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we would do that. Bring them here, give them houses,
give them benefits, get them set up, give them jobs
if they trade their information of how to kill people. Wow.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yes, the recruitment of the Japanese scientists and whatnot and
medical people wasn't as big as Operation paper Clip with
the Germans, but it happened.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
That's adea.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
It's in the book about Frank Olsen. There's some stuff
about that.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Right right. And it was called that was Unit seven
thirty one. I definitely some things just stick in your brain.
I don't know how I keep half this stuff up here.
So anyways, Harriet believes her dad died from anthrax. She
believes her coworker opened up a letter intended for her
because she was the manager normally doing handling the mail,
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and that she was supposed to have been targeted with it,
and that her dog had also fell sick and was
given cipro. And sipro is the anna by audict that
they give you when you've been affected by anthrax.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
So yeah, And she even at one point in time,
I don't know if I still have the picture, but
she had sent me the picture of the actual bottle
that was given to her to her dog, and it
definitely said sip Ro on it.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
At one point, this is a little off the track,
didn't you?
Speaker 5 (20:21):
And Dennis in uh, Jack shed container containing some suspicious substance.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yes, it breaked us out, Yes, it freaked us out.
In the end they took Yes, In the end they
determined that it was either the cremation some of Jack's
remains I believe, I think is what happened. So all
I know is that when Dennis opened up the bag
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that it was in. He said that whatever was so
foul and basically robbing him of his breath, he couldn't
like even breathe. And he popped it over and saw
that it was a white powder, immediately closed it back up,
turned it over to the FBI, and they in turn
turned around and said that I think it was remains
or ashes, so maybe lying they.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Are concealing what they.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Actually found exactly. And it was in a film.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
You want to keep Dennis and you in the dark.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Well, and it was in a film, counister. We know
that Jack was big on photographs and film and and
things like that. It was I don't, I don't know
who takes remains and remains. He wouldn't. He clearly wouldn't,
so either somebody else did. I don't. Yet none of
it made any sense.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It was reds, yeah, or maybe it was someone.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Else's maids, right right, there's so many what ifs. I'm
glad you remembered that. So many things have happened in
this case. So On March twenty second of nineteen eighty eight,
twenty four year old Darryl Wayne Caid in Nakuska Street
textabus subedsion FM fourteen eighty four Conro, Texas. Associates left
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with kid, who later told the family that they had
dropped Kate off at his request at the Montgomery County
Fairgrounds located on FM fourteen eighty four outside of Conroe, Texas.
Foul play is suspected. He's a white male. Date of
birth seven four sixty three. When reporting missing, he was
five foot nine, two hundred pounds, brown hair and brown eyes,
mustache and beard, a tattoo that said love star with
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a star. He was a mechanic and the DNA identifies
remains in twenty ten, so they must have found the
remains at some point. I just don't know when, uh,
because that was the missing date. But in twenty ten
they were able to identify those remains. On April third
of nineteen eighty eight, on Easter Day. Jack is known
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to spend Easter in Texas with his mom. I used
to have pictures of when Jack was in Texas because
he would ultimately take pictures with Mom and the family
and everything when he's there for the holidays. And I
at one point in time, with all of these unsolved
murders that Dennis had given me, I was able to
actually locate pictures of Jacks that would indicate he's in
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these areas during this time. So this March twenty second murder,
maybe not, but the April ninth, that's relatively close to
Easter Day once again. So I always wondered if when
he went to Texas, you know, he didn't get some
of his inter aggression out. I don't feel like he's
doing a lot of killing back in California while he's
working for Hewlett Packard, But would he go to Texas,
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hang out with the family and he disappears all the time.
He's very good at it, disappear to you know, take
advantage of his little sick traits, and then come back
to California and he's not even being looked for because
he's not even in the state anymore. So this one
is on April nineteen, nineteen eighty eight, Cassandra Lee Hayley
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and Richard Keith call missing Persons. So a couple that
goes missing on Colonial Parkway in Virginia. We definitely also
have a serial killer obviously operating in Virginia. We're going
to hear several of these missings and murdered victims all
from the same location. Just like Conroe and Magnolia, we've
got something operating in Colonial Parkway, Virginia as well. So
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they went missing after driving home from a party and
their vehicle was found abandoned on the parkway the next morning.
Law enforcement theorized that suspect posed as an officer in
order to get them to pull over. We know that
Jack was operating as a security guard at this point
in time, so again he looked like an officer, and
that was also something that was suspected in the I
forty five killing sightings as well. On April ninth of
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nineteen eighty eight, we've got Jane Doe that's found in
a rail yard on Southern Pacific Railroad in Texas. She
was beaten on the head Railway death McKee McKee Street
Railroad yard, one hundred yards off the seven hundred block.
On June second, in nineteen eighty eight, sixty year old
Leon's slide of Creekwood Drives, Flendora, Texas, body discovered by
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residents out for a walk on Creekwood Drive. Lived in Houston,
Texas and worked as a security guard. He was beaten
to death and identified through fingerprints. June third, nineteen eighty eight.
His car is found on the parking lot of the
clem Manor Apartments in the fifty three hundred block of
Coke Street, Houston, Texas. Car was stripped and containing large
amounts of blood on the back seat. Huh. Just scary.
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July tenth of nineteen eighty eight. With this, I think,
is that police officer that you were talking about in
San Francisco that was murdered. You had mentioned or said
something I think last week about Lester Arnier.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I don't know if it's the same one, but what
I thought was earlier, years earlier, like in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I think there was one that was shot sitting in
his car, right.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, I was writing a ticket or something.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, So this one was just another one that was shot.
And I don't really have a lot of Yeah, I
don't have a lot of information on him, but we
do show murders in obviously San Francisco for the murder map,
which included more murders from Sandy Betts maps than just
Paul Stein. It included some prostitutes, other women. There's several
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people that individuals suspect the Zodiac could have been responsible
for this one. Probably not even closely related. I just
bring it up because of the involvement of high power people.
And speaking of high power people, I just finished watching
the Jeffrey Epstein Filthy Rich docuseries. I also watched the
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Gilaine Filthy Rich one as well. Let me just tell
you that I was absolutely flattery acid at the response
from law enforcement in regards to these cases. It does
appear as though they are trying to just strictly create
the image that Epstein is the only monster in this
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and that, and that Galine is, you know, the feeding
of the monster basically by bringing the girls in so
it looks like literally everything's being dumped in their laps.
But the reality is is that you don't become this rich.
You don't go from being a nobody somebody who gets
fired from his job on the stock market because he's
fiddled around with his expense reports and is cheating the
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company out of money. He get fired from that. Then
do you know what was the name of the guy
that he did the Ponzi scheme with four hundred and
eighty million dollars? Obviously mob right made No, I don't
think it was made off. He actually appeared on the docuseries.
He did only I think seven years in jail, only
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seven years in jail for stealing four hundred and eighty
million dollars worth of people's money. That in itself was
absolutely shoh.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
On this officer. So it says Walnut Creek. So he
was found in Walnut Creek. His body.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I again, the information is like super limited.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Okay, because he was SFPD officer, but it says Wallet Creek,
so I don't know, right, So he must have talked
about was early seventies and he was found in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Okay, yeah, no, this one is saying Walnut Cred But
he was an SFPD officer at least that's what they've
got tagged underneath his picture here.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
So anyways, the September sixth, nineteen eighty eight murder of
twenty eight year old Julie Ward happens in Massaimara Game
Reserve in Kenya. Now it says did not attend a
farewell dinner that night before departing for Africa. Her dismembered, dismembered,
and burned body was found deep within the reserves boundaries
a week after she was reported missing. Her father's efforts,
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John Ward uncovered evidence that led Kenyan officials to believe
she was murdered. Horner's reports were altered to mask human
involvement in her murders. So now we've got people manipulating
This is why I brought up the Epstein stuff. We've
got high ranking people manipulating the evidence. Safety for the
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Kenyon tourism industry, there is high power. Officials like former
President Daniel moy has not been inclined to convict anyone
to this day. And I don't know if that means
that they had suspects, but the fact that they refused
to literally indict anybody or to attempt to convict anybody
of this crime is again back to what we saw
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happening with the Epstein stuff. You know, we had girls
as early as nineteen ninety six that reporting to law enforcement,
and who knows, maybe some had reported before that, but
those that are on record that came out and actively
spoke and consistently told the story of what a monster.
Epstein was started in nineteen ninety six, and that got
my wheels click. You know, you're sitting here researching stuff,
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you're looking at things. I'm a gas at the US
attorney that actually gave him a plea deal behind the
victim's backs, so that he did not have to go
into court and reveal any information whatsoever. He was given
eighteen months, did twelve months, but was literally walking free.
He was let out on what they called work project
for twelve hours a day of his twelve month sentence.
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I was like, what the hell, Yeah, so he's basically
free all day long. He just went there to sleep,
and of course he had a cushy, nice, you know,
unit to himself kind of thing. It was all really
kind of disgusting at any rate. When my wheels started clicking,
I was like, when did we lose a Hollywood madam
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who also didn't have to give up her list? Right?
I looked back and Heidi Flice in nineteen ninety six.
Now she's not convicted of trafficking women, which she should
have been. She ended up ultimately being in and convicted
for tax evasion, but before that she was high up
in the media. She ran shows for the media. She
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wasn't just a matam. That was just a subset to
who she really was and what she had going on.
So she was on TV, she was in the media,
she was on the radio, She was high up there
with these people, providing women for those that wanted to play.
And that's no different than what Jeffrey was doing. So
you've got this nobody, he's nobody in nineteen ninety four
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to ninety six, and then all of a sudden, he
is now somebody, and he is recruiting. They're bringing in
females left and right. I was kind of astonished to
see that they weren't really trying to push the narrative
that there are people on his list. They would occasionally
throw a picture up of Clinton with him, or with
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Trump with him, or you know, other individuals, but they
never really pressed the issue that all these hundreds of
girls had been also farmed out to other people, not
simply not simply Epstein's delight, right, and then Dershowitz, I
go ahead, I'm really.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Inclear on the sources of his income. But now he
built his He had some really that'sive oldies. I mean,
Arry Lord was really exclusive. He was like a palace
on an island, a place in New York.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
How do you get that? Yeah, how do you get that?
With well, he committed the Ponzi scheme, obviously with the
gentleman that went to jail for seven years four hundred
and eighty million dollars. And this man sits on their
snickers and says he didn't turn Epstein in as part
of it. There's a reason he couldn't. He couldn't use
Epstein as a fall guy at this point because Epstein
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was too important to too many high ranking political figures,
elite people, royalty. I mean, we saw Prince Andrew is
all wrapped up in the middle of it. There is
just so much and the attorney Dirshwitch is up there.
I never slept with a child, but you've got this
woman over here saying I slept with him five or
six times. Now, he's a nasty old man. Women don't
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just up and pop up and say I slept with
something nasty unless they truly did that.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
That's shamers lost comebacks.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Mm hmm. Well, he consulted. He for whatever reason, couldn't
be the attorney, so he consulted as part of the
team that Epstein had. And Epstein was literally intimidating all
of the witnesses. He was having them followed, he was
having them stocked, he was having them approached, he was
he had teams of Pi's out there just running amok,
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trying to intimidate absolutely every single witness in this case.
And the fact that the US attorney would not indict
him for child trafficking and the things that they really
legitimately should have done, means that they were also told,
you are not going to touch this guy. But I
think what happened is it became so publicly known that
the pressure was on they had to do something, and
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we see the FBI pick up the investigation from New
York and he is finally convicted, ultimately goes to jail,
purportedly commits suicide, but an autopsy shows that his hyoid
bone had been broken in two places, and that it
was impossible from the position that he was hanging off
of his bed to have created that type of a
blow to that area of the neck, even in a strangulation,
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a slow strangulation would not have broken those bones. So
there is now theories, obviously that he was murdered to
keep information silent.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Hice, He's funny because right now Trump was trying to
distance himself and conceal evidence and whatnot about englists or anything.
But he doesn't hesitate throwing Clinton under the bus.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
No, he doesn't. He used to be a huge supporter
of Clinton.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
How does Trump know Clinton went to the.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Well, there's pictures, there's pictures. There's also a groundskeeper that
actually saw Clinton there sitting on the porch. So there's
definite information. So to say that we just went to
this island which only is known for screwing, oh'll say
that politely. Yeah, what are you doing over thee? You
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didn't touch no little girls? Come on, Clinton, we know
that you like little girls. You had Monica Lewinsky, a
young intern and underneath the table of the Oval office,
who are not stooping people? And stop treating us like
we are? Yeah, all right, September nineteenth. I think that
was the end. Let's see. Oh no, that was not
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the end, all right. Jeffrey Epstein's this got even more interesting.
Jeffrey Epstein's only client that he had supposedly to make
money from in his I don't know if he was
doing stocks or manipul like folio management or what. His
only his only client that he had his ad non
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Cogosi Cogoshi. Now the reason why this is interesting, huh?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
And he was involved in he ran contra atfair.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
He was awesome, right and He also was being looked
at by the FBI in connection with Babe Roboso for
human trafficking THERFOIA files on it, I went, what the hell,
and we talk about Baby Roboso because of the John
Walsh stuff, like, the links are just absolutely astronomical. Actually,
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Baby Roboso was super good friends with Nixon, so Nixon
was joining him on his getaways and things like that.
So yeah, I just thought that that. And of course
I think Adnin is the royalty from India. No, he's
little sure, Middle Eastern.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Saut In Arabia or Georgia.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Oh yes, I believe you might be right, But he's
royalty again, just like we these are awesome sick people
and it goes all the way up the freaking So
basically we've gotten again in the middle of Epstein, politicians, mobs,
media's uh syndicates, high ranking political officials. It just it
just goes on, you guys. It all fits into scheme.
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And this is why I look at these things in
the Zodiac case, because these people are above reproach. Period.
You're not going to get them until the entire public
is pressing for it.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Years ago, at Old Sach, we were deposing an attorney
named Robert Radcliffe, and one of the other attorneys asked,
do you know add doc Shogi is closed?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yes, I know add On So.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Not only did he know, it was on a first
name basis with him and this ratup guys Crooked as
well of course represented my client formerly uh crooked by
the name of Henry van Buren, who's who's a scammer went.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
The federal prison anyway, just a little aside.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Well, and it just really takes me aback because it's
clear that these people will use and abuse anybody without
means in order to facilitate their needs and desires. And
I don't see the Zodiac episodes as anything any different.
They will kill even to protect their stuff.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
But I think Epstein did have some other powerful clients.
I mean, one of them is in the docuseries. I
forget his name, but he's a New York businessman, I think,
and I think his name starts with an A.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Aaron Center or something like that.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Yeah, I'm wondering if that's the one that he committed
the Ponzi scheme with. And here's crazy. When he was
fired from his job on the stock market because he
was stealing an embezzling money through his expenses. He was
picked up by this guy that committed the Ponzi scheme
on purpose, he said, because he liked that type behavior.
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He literally went and looked for him because he heard
this guy was smart and he's also unethical. He also
is unmoral, immoral, and he was exactly what he needed
to complete his Ponzi schemes. So these people are specifically
looking for an individual just like this, and I think
that's how he got recruited to that level of he's
now the basic madam. I feel like he took over
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Heidie Feiss's job.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Because he never graduated from college, yet he got all
these high powerful positions on Wall Street and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
And dealing with He lied, he lied together, he lied
and said that he had Yeah, so he's he's the
perfect person because he's immoral and unethical and he's going
to lie right up the ladder and then becomes one
of the richest men in the world, one of the
richest men in the world, rubbing elbows with royalty and presidents.
(39:56):
Come on, now, come on, and we know Trump likes
young women, right, haven't they all been, you know, extremely
young whatever? All right, So September nineteenth, nineteen eighty nine,
we have a Jane Doe east side of Houston, estimated
to be fourteen to nineteen years old. Her estimated time
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of death is approximately one to three months at this point,
so clearly we're looking at August, June, maybe June somewhere
around there. June to August. They're suspecting that she had
died or September. I point out Jack was in the
area for an unnoticed amount of time in nineteen eighty nine,
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so he's back and forth to Texas. October seventh, nineteen
eighty eight. Twenty twenty two year old Suzanne Rene Richardson
in Cassa Delmark Condominiums is a missing person. I'm not
sure why this one ended up in here other than
I was, you know, cross connecting some donal last condominium car.
The car the twelfth victim card from the Zodiac had condominiums,
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I think so. I think so, but I couldn't narrow
it down because Cassa del Mar has condominiums all over
the place, even all over the world. So basically, a
sleeping coworker in a room above the lobby heard a stream,
so she must have been working at the CASA del
Mar and a coworker that was sleeping in a room
above the lobby heard a stream and a slamming car
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door at six thirty am, then another screen before hearing
the car drive away. So disappeared from her job while
working in the lobby of the condominiums, which is kind
of again that's reminiscent of Donna Lass going missing from
her work the Sahara Casino. Gabriel Soda was thought to
have had a connection to this case, but suffered an
(41:48):
apparent drug overdose. Her shoe was found in the parking
lot and scratches on the lobby door. Her body has
not been found, so she's still listed as missing. What
time do we have? Ten forty three? All right, so
Christmas in nineteen eighty eight, still at the Curry House,
Jack and the family we see here Don, his brother
(42:09):
is visiting for Christmas. Of course he was also Don
was also listed as living in Roseville in nineteen eighty
per Jack's paperwork, so they are probably living close to
each other at this point, but he was originally in
Riverside for most of his time in California. February fifth
of nineteen eighty nine, we see that Jack is back
in Texas. He's taking a picture of his mom's house,
(42:32):
which to my to my belief is that he purchased
this house for his mother based on Dennis's recollection, so
he's here. We also we're also seeing developed film from
May of nineteen eighty nine where Jack is with the
family in Texas again at a barbecue. And this maybe
(42:53):
Easter in April or March, because the tag on the
back of it says May of nineteen eighty nine, and
you can see it's a family function and get together.
And as I'd indicated, he's usually there for Easter. So
we are seeing him back in Texas via his own pictures,
and this picture says, oh, can I read it? It's
very February fifth, nineteen eighty nine something covered. This is
(43:22):
basically the property and they ended up moving a mobile
home onto it, and an approximately Easter time on April
fifth and nineteen eighty nine, we had thirty seven year
old Valente m Garcia. However, I'm going to caution that
the finale note to Tim Miller indicated he did not
kill anybody Hispanic, so this is likely somebody else because
I tend to believe when he says he didn't do something.
(43:44):
It's the did he do something thing part that I question.
She was killed on Bee Creek Road in Willis, Texas.
She was originally from Houston, Texas. She was shot numerous
times at that location. And of course I had just
indicated Tim Miller know hispanics, Oh my gosh. Then the
(44:04):
murders just pick up here, pick up here. So we
have another another set of what they refer to as
the stoneman murders, only this time it's in Bombay, India.
Or I'm sorry, this time it's in Calcutta, India. So
the first one was in Bombay, India, and basically they're
stoning to death homeless people. I did not map quest
(44:25):
this to say how far they were apart, right, But
it sometimes I feel like some of this stuff was
done just to sell newspapers, just to sell hype, or
to distract from something political that's going on, Like there's
always it seems like it's always coinciding with something that's
saying look over here, not here. And meanwhile the medias
(44:47):
and the syndicates are making mass amounts of money off
of running these stories. Then that's that this is four
years apart too. So what we've got a serial killer.
If we suppor pose that one person did this, he
took a break for four years, came back, did it again,
and then never did it again or before, it just
(45:07):
seems rather odd. I'm just gonna go out today and
kill twelve homeless people with rocks and then go back
to my normal life for four years and then pop
back up in another location and kill more people with rocks.
Very strange. Nineteen eighty nine, Anna, Marie Phelps and Daniel
Lauer went missing driving Colonial Parkway, Virginia. Here we've got
(45:27):
another couples gone missing. Bodies were found on a nearby
logging road. A month later. Law enforcement dear ized suspect
posed his officer to get couples to pull over again.
September nineteenth, nineteen eighty nine, fourteen to nineteen year old
Jane Doe, number four, east side of Houston, Texas estimated, Oh,
I've already gone over this one. Why did this end
(45:49):
up back in here? Let me go backwards and see
what I did wrong? U? Oh yeah, so September October, Oh,
I see what I did wrong. I have it in
the wrong location there. I'll have to make that change.
Because she died in eighty nine, not eighty eight, and
I had her in the eighty eight series. All Right,
(46:11):
gottped October thirty first, nineteen eighty nine. Twenty to thirty
year old unidentified male skeletal remains, Nakouska Street again. All right,
March eighteenth of nineteen ninety. Yay, we're in ninety. This
is the Gardnerville heist. I don't have a lot of
information on it. Harriet really honestly believes that this group,
(46:34):
whoever runs the Zodiac group and the people involved, committed
this heist some very high end art, I mean million
dollars worth, millions of dollars. She thinks it was a
compilation of an insurance job, make somebody pay. Somebody wanted
this art. They sole several pieces, and there was a
security guard involvement, And I think that's why she's trying
(46:57):
to kind of tie it together with Jack. I'm not sure,
but we know that we're going to see another separation
here very shortly between him and Nora. So I don't
know what's going on, but he ends up back in
Texas again. So March twentieth of nineteen ninety, we have
thirty years of age Beverly Sue Demmler, reported missing in
(47:17):
Harris County, Texas. Human skeleton remains found by hunters on
November tenth, nineteen ninety one, are identified in two thousand
and one by dental records, and she died from blunt
forced trauma to the head. Right now July of nineteen
ninety we can see that Nora and him are still together.
Via this picture. Jack is traveling again. This picture shows
(47:40):
it says metro city. I tried researching and looking this up.
I did see a metro city in the Grand Canyon area.
It says our trip. This could potentially be Arizona, or
Atlanta or even Texas. So I found metro city in
three different states, but all states that I say Jack
(48:01):
is possibly connected to. Nineteen ninety ancestry dot com shows
Jack's address as a PO box as seven five seven
two to one, Dallas, Texas. So why does he have
I've said this before, he keeps and carries po boxes
in Oklahoma, in Texas in strange locations obviously that he's
(48:23):
not living in. But he's having things mailed to them.
And what's being mailed, you know, one of one of
the uh one of the crime shows that I watch
actually implicates a travel company as being an undercover death
squad basically, and their their operatives would pick up their
kills and the information on those kills at a PO
(48:45):
box at one of those mailbox like et cetera type facilities,
definitely not inside the post office, but in one of
those other ones, and that's where they would go to
pick up the sheets of information on who they were
supposed to kill. So I thought that was interesting. Is
Jack keeping peo boxes all over the place, And a
lot of these communications, especially when we come up here
to the John Walsh ones, you're gonna hear about po boxes.
(49:09):
He's act the author of the letter is specifically talking
about owning a PO box. So all of it again
runs in tandem. Oh well, we were pretty much thirty
seconds out from finishing this off. Are you going to
be back at one, Nolan?
Speaker 2 (49:24):
You guys, I'll be back at one all right.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Well, everybody take care, have a wonderful weekend. We will
see you next Friday. Thank you, Nolan.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Okay, bye bye. Yeah,
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