December 12, 2025 • 50 mins
A rabbit hole on John Mark Karr circled me back in some strange way to Walsh, Polly Klaas, and inevitably. I cannot believe what Epstein was capable of getting away with and all the while having protection and preferential treatment from some pretty big people. Which is what I feel was afforded to John Mark Karr who is an admitted pedophilia. He knew things about Jon Benet’s murder that was not in the public like they try to tell us today, or they wouldn’t have flown him from Thailand.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:52):
Good Morning, True Seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back
to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I would like to welcome to the show. Nolan del Campbell.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Good morning everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Good morning. How is your week?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It was solid. I had court Monday through Wednesday, and
then I was a Philly case yesterday, but they didn't
pay me, so I didn't go.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I've threatened to do this before.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And I think I have a client that you also
shared with me at one point because I refer him
to you, and I may or may not show up
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
No, I haven't been retained yet, so I didn't, you know.
And they're trying to on the guy. They're they're trying
to do a prelim when he hasn't even seen the discovery. Huh.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
So there, it's just like a preliminary.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Hearing or yeah, well it's yeah, and felony matters. You're
in time to go a prelim within ten days, and
the public defitter is the way they do it if
you're in custody. What they try to do is burden
the DA. So they if you're in custody, the automatically
set for a prelim within the ten days, but without
even a chance to try and work something out ahead,
(02:06):
you know, without even conferencing or anything. They're just sent
for prelimb.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
So how does that burden the DA.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Because they have to rush because the prelims, it's all
on the DA. It's a DA show. They have to
prove that there's enough evidence in the case to proceed
to trial, but.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
They have to get that evidence to the defense within
ten days.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well sooner than that, and then the hearing's within ten days.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Right right, so I can't Yeah, then the judge determines
if there's enough evidence to proceed to trial, they call
to hold them over for trial.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Okay, but it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, what I was gonna do, I was gonna send
it back to the Home Court and try and negotiate. First,
I haven't. I hadn't seen the discovery either, So anyway,
I think they're just rushing through.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, if you haven't been paid, Yeah, you can't get
started on dealing.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, because once you come in, you're in. And you
got to make at least three appearances.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Right, yeah, Well, and I've made two appearances, and I've
not been paid for the last two appearances, and so right.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Pretty much. And on the.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Last appearance I made it very clear that he was
to catch up before court took place. I get there,
of course he doesn't pay me like he should, and
then I tell him, look, I know that I didn't
get to testify once again. I'll be happy to defer
your retainer to the January date if you catch up
your bill for the last two appearances.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Not not word.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So he's either going to get recharged for for the
retainer fee and expected to pay all of that money
up front before I even walk out the door, Like,
there's no more trusting this person on.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Here a letter to that effect, though, So you have
it writing email?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, yeah, email, that sounds like a good idea.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Well, I had some exciting things happened this last week.
See if we can get this up I got my.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Certificate of achievement for graphology, so I'm very excited about right,
So I'm going to I just requested for my fictitious
business name statement for the new logo, which will throw
up the presentation and show you that I have developed
(04:29):
a logo for graphology, which will be a separate business
obviously from the forensics offering profiling and behavioral trading through handwriting,
which is going to be extremely exciting. I find this
far more interesting than the forensics and the fighting with
the dirty people in court, I.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Think, because these people when they come to you.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
They want to know things. Are you looking at my
culer ad? Get off my culer ad? What's that we are?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Quaar quare? I'll try to say that, right my My,
my tongue likes.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
El's evidently like tortilla.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Him for I you know, I don't I guess if
I had actually cared to read the news, because just
like I don't watch the news, I don't either read
the news.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It was familiar and he's obviously a politician, correct.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
So my whole point for throwing that up there is
that it came up obviously as a notification on my phone,
and when I clicked on it, it said no more,
mister nice guy, Trump bashes representative or I'm sorry, Republican Henry.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
No.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Republican because let me finish the headline. Republican Henry Henry,
what'd you say?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Kr kr are quare are quare pew.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Que are for running as a Democrat after pardon, he says.
One day ago Washington, President Donald Trump criticized Republican Henry
Quaar for a loyalty for running as a Democrat after
receiving a pardon.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, I wonder what he did to earn the punishment
that required a pardon.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Well, and I really don't even care what he did.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
The bottom line is is that they've got this good
old boy system up here in these ranks with these politicians,
where they can.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Pardon people for crimes and they get away with it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So obviously, I mean we're seeing we saw Biden pardon
his own son for anything past and present that might
be figured out. So who knows his son may have
been wrapped up with that old Epstein thing. It really
kind of boggled me as to why he was doing
future pardon for anything that a son may or may
not have done anyways, on both sides, on both sides,
(06:51):
and more to the point that, Okay, so a couple
of my favorite shows are Blacklist and Ozarks on Netflix.
And in Ozarks I was watching where they were, you know,
trying to get out of the drug cartel business and
into something legitimate, and uh, Wendy was making the claim
that you know, we're going to go legit now, and
(07:12):
her daughter says something like, it doesn't matter you made
your money illegally, and Wendy says back, it doesn't matter
how you made your money. America forgets a couple of
months underneath, that'll be underneath the blanket basically, and we
will be legit and from then on out, we don't
have to break any more laws. Which, no, if you
came up breaking laws, you continue breaking laws. You don't
just stop because you're now legit. You're just a little
(07:34):
bit more undercover about how you're breaking those laws.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, like Granddaddy Kennedy.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Exactly, Well, all.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Legit everybody in politics basically, it feels like especially we
talked about the representative from Florida last week where or
a couple of weeks ago where her healthcare business had
absconded with, you know, millions of dollars from COVID relief
funds in order to fund her campaign and get her
so now she's up for indictment. Like these people just
(08:06):
do whatever it takes to get to where they want
to protect their money.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
The godfather al Pacino keeps telling Diane Keaton swear, after
this happens, after this happens, we're gonna go completely legit.
We'll be above bor for thirty years.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Well, and more importantly, when I saw this headline, it
made me feel very disturbed with Trump, who was formerly
a Democrat, who clearly was aware he was never going
to take presidency as a Democrat. What did he run
as an independent party first but didn't make it, and
then finally as a Republican.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
And made it?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yep, And here he's bashing somebody else for a lack
of loyalty, which is exactly what I said the second
I found out that Trump used to be a Democrat
and supported the Clintons.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
When was he ever a nice guy? Is? No?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
You know, that is a very good point, because I
am not sure. I don't think that he ever has been.
If you watch The Apprentice, you'd.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Know he's not.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, Park, So.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I plan on getting into these things a little bit more.
But I found I had collected old articles, and I
Juan tell Dean, I'm in the middle of my podcast,
and I told him not until after eleven my time.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
He's calling me right now. Thank you. One, I keep
old articles. Let's see if we can get this one up.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
This is The Times Harold, the Daily Times Herald out
of Dallas, Texas, and it is dated June twelfth, nineteen
fifty three. And the article that yeah, nineteen fifty three. Oh,
this thing is old as can be. I mean, like,
look at these paper ridges. Yeah, it's basically dark yellow,
(10:04):
very very fragile and crispy. But the article that caught
my attention in this is actually from Eisenhower, and Eisenhower
is basically talking about his disdain for the Democrats and
the socialism they're trying to bring in to the country.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, I know, I was like, what's that.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
That was his first year as president. He got elected
in fifty two, started in January fifty three.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Oh mind you.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
This interview is going on while he's getting ready to
head out to go fishing, So basically it's talking a
little bit about that, But he's also talking about how
if they let the Democrats in to run the country,
that the Republicans will never get it back again. And
they don't want the socialism of the Democrats to take
over the country, and they want to keep the communists
(10:55):
out and all of this veteran.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
War.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Probably kept it because it's Eisenhower, and we have the Eisenhower.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Stamp that the Zodiac used.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
He obviously had something for Eisenhower because he hasted so
many Eisenhower stamps on all his communications and a lot
of cases more than he needed to.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Well, he won reelection. He served eight years till nineteen sixty.
But at the end his exit speech he warned of
the military industrial complex. He saw it coming. So he
grew wiser with age, and he wasn't such a heavy
duty pulled warrior towards the end. But his term was over,
(11:40):
and it is his vice president the whole time, the
whole years was Richard Nixon.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Oh and so then then we had Nixon come into
office wet in the sixties sixty eight.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
But Nixon ran against Kennedy in sixty and almost.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Won, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, Butnnedy had the backing of the mob and big
money and yeah, so there there's that.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
So now that.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
We've expounded upon the fact that jfk ran and won
with mob money, and then of course the theories are
that he was taken out by the very same people
who put him in right yep, because of his I
guess once he got in, he thought he could make
some changes and they're not allowed you to allow you
to do that.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I think this book I'm reading right now, it's about
the Kennedys and Marilyn Monroe and Dorothy Kilgallon, the journalist,
all of who've been murdered. And so it basically says
the mastermind behind it was the mob, the Chicago mob,
the Louisiana mob, and the Florida Jim Connor, Marcello and
(12:50):
the other guy I forget the third name, I'll company
Santra Trafficcarte in Florida.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
And those are all that they that Harriet believes she
deciphered in the letters as these connections to these individuals.
So I kept another one, it's Secrets of the Smithsonian
American History from the Smithsonian. At one point in time,
I guess I was getting these magazines. This one's not
as old. It's twenty nineteen, but it actually goes real.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Quick subject real quick briefly because it's the same book. Basically,
Joe Kennedy, the dad, is the one that brought in
the mob helped influence the elections in Illinois, mainly Chicago
area and a couple other Eastern states, and that's one
Kennedy election. But he basically promised these mobsters that we
(13:47):
will go after you if you help us win the election.
Right then the first thing that John Kennedy does he
appoints Robert to be the trety typical and Roberts is
go go. So the mobsters felt betrayed.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Because they're they're they're the ones that get them to
where they're at. I mean, if people think that honestly
that politics is any has any separation or any degree
of separation from the mob they're absolutely ridiculous. So in
the Secrets of American History in the Smithsonian, I found
this article which i'll probably put this up more.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
It's Suspect at City Hall.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
It talks about this guy O'Dwyer, who was the mayor
of New York City. He was basically thought to be
a very honest and upstanding individual and he uh it
turned out he actually had connections with everybody, the mob, syndicates, cartels,
you name it. He was basically kind of the handyman
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for all of these individuals and facilitating whatever their needs
were so that they continued to make their money and
prosper And in the end result of this particular article,
O'Dwyer is actually given a Ambassador of Mexico position by
Truman because if it's found out that he has these
connections and he's brought to court to have to testify,
(15:14):
it's going to come out that Truman is involved. So
the overall entire premise of this particular article is outing
this O'Dwyer guy and this da Miles MacDonald, who literally
put all the pieces together while O'Dwyer was in office,
and the only way to prevent him from being prosecuted
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was to make him an Ambassador of Mexico and send
him to Mexico, which that ties back around to our
thoughts and feelings about the CIA running establishments out of
Mexico where people would go to hide when they were
under indictment for tax evasion, Rico statue for.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
All like whatever it was that they were in trouble
for this included.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Huge CIA base.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
But yeah, yeah, this goes.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Tons of times to the Mexico City CIA base and
Oswald and the Kennedy assassination.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Well, and it says here that McDonald said that he
never he declined to run for governor and other high
public offices after being the DA because it was actually
quite simple.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
He said he would have been killed. Look at JFK like.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
You gotta tell Lauren.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, I don't think by any means that that was
somebody who was just paranoid.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I think what he was into. Yes, these people.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Another article that I found, and this kind of goes
to the attempts of media to sway the public as
to what's really going on in cases I'm trying to see.
This is May twenty six of twenty fourteen, and of
course the ahead article says this man killed John Bennet,
(17:01):
and this is the man they're claiming Edwards.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Of course he has a completely different name.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
So this last week I have been contacted by somebody
who believes Lawrence Kaye.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Was the Zodiac. We looked at these guys as pictures.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I think I've covered ed Edwards as well already, so
I didn't make a big to do about it. The
bottom line is is that they're putting this out now.
I know that's the Globe, which is kind of more
like a tabloid style newspaper than somebody. And I hate
to even say not a reputable news source, because quite frankly,
we can see how none of the.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
News sources are reputable. Why didn't you go into journalism?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Why didn't I? Yeah, I did, that's why. I yeah, briefly,
but then I had interviews with Wall Street Journal, La Times,
and the Wall Street Journal didn't want me for some reason,
but La Times said they would hire me. Wanted me
to get some experience on a small daily first, and
(18:05):
I interviewed in lod I and it wanted me to
move to Lode and screw that. And so my dad said, hey,
you want to go to law school, I'll pay for it.
So I took the alsat and fled to the law schools.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Nice. Okay, well that.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Was really nice. Through college with journalism scholarships.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
There you go, k c.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Seconment of Press club.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Well, some of my some of my research also led
me back down a rabbit hole in regards to the
Sierra Club, which is the card that was involved with
Donna Lass And it turned out that Sierra Club was
not the Sierra Club. The Sierra Club, which was an
elite group, actually met at the Condominium Association, which is
named something completely different, which I'll be bringing that up
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at a later date once we wrap ourselves back around
it again. But it literally goes back to these elitist groups.
And why does the Zodiac keep pointing out oh.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Village in North Yes.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yes, So this article on this ed Edwards guy, which
I thought was more interesting as I was doing my
research and stumbled across Wikipedia's Zodiac suspect list. Once again,
of course they're bashing Dennis, and then they go on
to try to make light of me and that I'm
not credible because I have introduced John Bennet's handwriting or
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the ransom note handwriting into the cases, indicating that I
believe there's a connection between that handwriting and the Zodiac killers.
So while they're maintaining I must be not, I'm not
credible because I've made this astonished astonishment. They say in here,
this guy John Cameron, who is a retired cold case cop,
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reveals Edwards killed John Bennet, now of course, he's written
a book on it, and he's got this full page
spread by the Globe World Exclusive. But I want I
wanted to read just a spots out of it. Because
Cameron reveals Edwards, like Zodiac, enjoyed leaving false ransom notes
at crime scenes, giving clues to his identity. This supports
an analysis by FBI profiler John Douglas, who said that
(20:12):
John Benay ransom note is a puzzle that could eventually
identify the killer. Certainly the writings of and I need
to find some writings from Edwards because that's really the
only way it's going to break down.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
In this note or anything else.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Left at other crime scenes, we contain personal information about
the victim's family, says former detective Cameron.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
This steers the investigation.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
To focus on someone within the family, while Edwards would
slip away laughing at the police. Let me see he
believes basically. His book states that he also believes that
ed Edwards could have been the Zodiac killer that he
began killing at the age of eleven, and that dates
it back to nineteen forty five. I almost have a
suspicion if I got his book that I would find
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that he was referring back to the Lipstick killings because
he refers to a little girl that was killed and beheaded,
but at the age of eleven. I find it very
hard to believe that this man at the age of eleven.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Was immersing what was his profession.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
He's all over the place again. I'm gonna do a
little more research into him. I'm pretty sure that based
on his not having any likeness to the Zodiac composite,
and his age is about five years younger than that, well,
I think it would have made him approximately thirty four
or thirty five at the time of the Zodiac killings
(21:34):
when the officer folk indicated thirty five to forty one
that he did have kind of you know, a wrinkling
next and grain hair. So I don't believe that Edwards
was the likely person. And I did take a look
this time at Lawrence Kine's handwriting this last week, and
I found that he has a very poor line quality.
He suffered a brain injury to his frontal lobe in
(21:56):
nineteen I want to say it was nineteen sixty or
nineteen sixty two. Way, he is very rudimentary handwriting that
doesn't have as nice of a line quality or speed
and fluidity as we see in the Zodiac letters, which
indicates to me that he's not the author of those letters.
If I can get some handwriting on Ed Edwards, I
will definitely take a look at that too. Either way,
(22:17):
let's move back on to the nefariousness of this. I
say this case, but really we're still on Epstein at
this point, and there's a very big tie into this.
And that's why I want everybody to understand our history.
You know, if we forget about history, we stop looking
at these people in our future, and we vote for
them not knowing where they really came from and what
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they're prepared to do, which means not protect us. So
last week we were talking about Lolita Express.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Which is it? Says Epstein, who often.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Is pictured with or in a Golfstream G five point fifty.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Jet owned by the Jig Jay the company J E.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
G E. It's a an acronym with which he chartered
it and owned a Boeing seven to twenty seven and
traveled in it, frequently logging six hundred flying hours a year,
usually with guests on board. The jet was nicknamed the
Lolita Expressed by locals in the Virgin Islands because of
the frequent arrivals at Little Saint James with underage girls.
(23:18):
Forbes reports that between nineteen ninety and two thousand and one,
the Lita Jet was owned by Wexner. Now Wexner is
the is that the Victoria secret guy I.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Don't know name sounds familiar, though.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Who then transferred it for an undisclosed sum to Epstein.
Andrew Mountbatten Windsor and Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's planes.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Robert F.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Kennedy Junior was interviewed in the course of his twenty
twenty four bid for presidency and came clean about his
travels with Epstein. In two thousand and three, Epstein flew
to Cuba with Colombian President Andres Pastrana Orango at the
invitation of Cuban President Fidel Castro. According to the Miami Herald,
Epstein was considering relocating to Cuba to evade US law enforcement.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Trump flew at least six times on Epstein's planes between
nineteen ninety three and nineteen ninety seven. According to Michael Corcoran,
Trump flew Epstein on his own airplane at least once.
In September two thousand and two, Epstein flew Clinton, Kevin Spacey,
and Chris Tucker to Africa in his jet flight records obtained,
and this is all information that's come out in the
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Epstein emails.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Basically, at least that's what Wikipedia saying.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
But we also heard Wikipedia say that I was full
of it because I made a connection that obviously other
people are making as well. We just had different suspects,
and my suspect's handwriting happens to match. So once we
get over that, home flight records obtained in twenty sixteen
show Clinton flew twenty seven times on the jet.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
In twenty nineteen, a Clinton spokesperson stated.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
That in two thousand and two and two thousand and three,
Clinton took four trips on Epstein's airplane, making stops on
three continents, all with his staff in secret service detail. WHOA, yeah,
liquid funding and the bear Sterns explosion. This is going
to describe the real estate market events that occurred from
two thousand to two thousand and eight, and I was
(25:19):
literally livid. This is why I left the real estate
businesses because this crash I believed could be directly linked
and blamed on the lenders who were providing bad products
that were not viable for Americans, and then we had
the largest amount of foreclosures in Americans losing their home.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
And now we're at a.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Point where Americans can barely even buy a home unless
you've got three different families living together and willing to
go in on a deed. The pricing and the interest
rates are so high that it makes it literally impossible
for anybody to in a lower level class to own
a home. So it says liquid Funding and the bear
Sterns Explosion two thousand to two thousand and eight. Epstein
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was the president of the Bermuda Incorporated company Liquid Funding
Ltd between two thousand and two thousand and seven.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
The company was.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
An early pioneer and expanding the king of debt that
could be accepted on repurchase, or the repo market, which
involves a lender giving money to a borrower in exchange
for securities that the borrower then agrees to buy back
at an agreed upon later time and price. The innovation
of Liquid Funding and other early companies was that instead
of having stocks and bonds as the underlying securities, it
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had commercial mortgages and investment grade residential mortgages. Bundled in
into complex securities as the underlying security. Liquid Funding was
initially forty percent owned by bear Stearns. Through the help
of credit rating agencies, Standard and Course Pitch ratings, and
Moody's Investor Service, the new bundled securities were able to
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be created for companies so that they received a gold
plated Triple A rating. The implosion of complex securities because
of their inaccurate ratings led to the collect the Bear
Stearns in March two thousand and eight and set in
motion the two thousand and eight financial crisis and the
subsequent Great Recession. If liquid Funding were left holding large
amounts of such securities as collateral, it could have lost
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large amounts of money. In August of two thousand and six,
a month after the federal investigation of him, Epstein invested
fifty seven million dollars in the bear Sterns High Grade
Structured Credit Strategies Enhanced Leverage Hedge Fund. The sec filings
for the bear Sterns fund showed that Epstein's Financial trust
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company controlled the boats of a ten percent share. This
fund was highly leveraged in mortgage backed collateralized debt obligations.
Now when I was done with real estate after watching
the fall of the market. What I saw was, you know,
subprime lenders go away.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
We were back to just regular banks. She needed to
fit back into a box.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
The foreclosure processes were heavy handed, and they were selling
the debt first off, then foreclosing on the property and
selling it on the court steps. And they also had
insurance to cover their losses, so these people were being
paid three These people became zillionaires, I guess I would
like to call it during this particular financial crisis that
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affected so many Americans. And this is why it's so
very important that you understand the camaraderie between and the
association of mobs, syndicate politicians, big banks, and Epstein is
kind of tying them all together for us right now.
And that's the only reason why I'm still kind of
even interested and reporting any of this stuff. So it
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says the US government began negotiation with Epstein for a
plea agreement in mid two thousand and seven, as the
bear sterns hedge fund began to collapse, and when I
looked at this financial trust company, it says in August
two thousand and six, a month after the federal investigation
of him began Epstein invested. Oh wait, I already read
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that SEC filings for bearsuit Epstein's Financial Trust Company controlled
the values of ten percent.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Oh oh, this is what I was trying to show you.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
So basically, whenever you find a red link on Wikipedia,
it's because they've scrubbed and removed the information. So I
thought it was very, very odd that while they are
basically reporting on the affiliations and businesses of Epstein, they
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have literally removed the information and regards to his his
businesses and the nefariousness of his businesses and what they
were involved with.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
And for me, that's again that's a hit in the gut.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Because encyclopedias don't go back to remove information. It is
a ledger of history. So why are you removing and
scrubbing from the Internet these particular companies.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
And we're going to more of that. So this was
just the first one.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
When I clicked on it, I went, wait a minute,
why it says literally financial Trust company page.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Does not exist? Well, the heck you say? It obviously
used to.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
So on April eighteenth of two thousand and seven, an
investor in the fund who had fifty seven million they're
talking about. Epstein discussed redeeming his investment. At this time,
the fund had a leverage ratio of seventeen to one,
which meant for every dollar invested, there were seventeen dollars
dollars of borrowed funds. Therefore, the redemption of this investment
would have been equivalent to removing one billion from the
thinly traded CDO market.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
The selling of CDO.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Assets to meet the redemptions that month began a repricing
process in general freeze in the CDO market. The repricing
of the CDO assets caused the collapse of the fund
of the fund three months later in July and the
eventual collapse of bear Sterns in March two thousand and eight.
Losses to investors in the two bear Stern funds were
estimated to exceed one one point six billion dollars. I
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don't know who has one point six billion to lose.
I don't know anybody multiple investors, right, but that's still
a lot. That's a lot of money. By the time
bear Stearn's fund began to fail in May two thousand
and seven, Epstein had begun to negotiate a plea deal
with the US Attorney's Office concerning imminent charges for sex
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with minors.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
In August of two thousand and.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Seven, a month after the fund collapsed, the US Attorney
in Miami, Alexander Acosta, entered into direct discussions about the
plea agreement a cost a broker to a lenient deal,
according to him, because he had been ordered by higher
government officials who told him that Epstein was an individual
of importance to.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
The government what the flip.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
As part of the negotiations, according to the Miami Herald,
Epstein provided unspecified information to the Florida federal prosecutors for
a more lenient sentence, and was supposedly unnamed investor number
one for the New York federal prosecutors in their unsuccessful
June two thousand and a criminal case against Kioffi and Tannin,
two of the managers of the failed bear sterns Hedge Fund.
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So basically he turned evidence, right, is that that's what
that's saying.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, in exchange for a lenient Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yeah, you can hear you can hurt our and abuse
our American citizens if you give him.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
But he was involved with this, He assisted in the
whole setup. He invested in the program.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
He was poor, and so if he turns evidence, not
only is he forgiven and given a lenient sentence for
all the women that he and children he's hurt, but
he also he also does not get implicated in this.
And oh maybe that's who Wexler was. That was his name, right, Wexler?
I said, I think was Wexler, the other Ponzi scheme
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guy that once again while Epstein was involved with him,
he went down and got busted for the Ponzi scheme,
but they.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Didn't even touch Epstein.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
They never even brought charges against Epstein even though he
was involved and even based on the Epstein documentary, he
was involved with that whole entire scheme. But somehow everybody
clears Epstein every single time. Let's see here as part
of the negotiations, according to the Miami Oh no blah
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blah blah.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Alan Dershowitz, that's the attorney.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
One of Epstein's attorneys in two thousand and eight criminal
case told Fox Business Network in twenty nineteen, he would
have been touting that if he had cooperated. The idea
that Epstein helped in any prosecution is news to me.
Moody's report that on April eighteen, two thousand and eight,
all outstanding rated liabilities of liquid funding were paid in full.
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All outstanding and liquid funding was Epstein's business paid in full.
Debts exactly, Yeah, right, private debts too, exactly and oh,
I think you might get your answer. At the time,
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the liquidator had not yet sold the beleaguered fund to
its new owner as of May first, JP Morgan, so
all the debts were paid off just before it got
sold to JP Morgan.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Good morning, lindsay, Oh I see her.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I see her, but I don't see her all right,
So now we have ties to Zuckerman. In two thousand
and three, New York Daily news publisher Mordeman's Mortimer's Zuckerman
partnered with Epstein, advertising executive Donnie.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Douche, is it Deutsch who that Made My Day?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
And investor Nelson Pelton a bid to acquire New York Magazine.
The ultimate buyer was Bruce Wasserstein, a longtime Wall Street
investment banker, who paid US fifty five million, over US
ten million above the offer from Zuckerman, Epstein, Deutsche and Pouts.
In two thousand and four, Epstein and Zuckerman committed up
to US twenty five million to refinance Radar, a celebrity
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and pop culture magazine founded by Mayor Rashaan. Epstein and
Zuckerman were equal partners in the venture. Rashaan, as its
editor in chief, retained a small ownership stake. It folded
after three issues as a print publication and became exclusively
an online one.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Why where they.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Are magazine that's different from the New Yorker, right, because
the New York is huge. I didn't know there was
a New York magazine.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
It says a New York Daily News, and oh yeah,
the New York magazine.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Okay, so we've discussed.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Them trying to obtain an airplane. Come ees, right, because
they need to facilitate travel. Now, they would definitely need
some way of communicating with people right in their little
sick world of you know, pedophilia, and online databases are
evidently a great way of doing that. Two thousand and
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two to two thousand and eight a company called Zwern.
Between two thousand and two and two thousand and five,
Epstein invested eighty million in the DB's worn a Special
Opportunities Fund. Notice again, we have a red highlighted link
that means that that link is no longer available, and
that information has now been scrubbed. Special Opportunities Fund a
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hedge fund that invested in ill liquid debt securities. In
November two thousand and six, Epstein attempted to redeem his
investment after he was informed of accounting irregularities irregularities in
the fund. By this time, his investment had grown to
one hundred and forty million. Huh, that's nice. That's a
sixty million dollar increase these were in fund refused to
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redeem the investment. Hedge funds that invest in ill liquid
securities typically have years long lockups on their capital for
all investors, and require redemption requests to be made in
writing sixty to ninety days in advance. The fund was
closed in two thousand and eight, so obviously this must
have been part of whatever was going on with that crash,
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and its remaining assets of approximately two billion, including Epstein's investment,
were transferred to Fortress Investment Group when that firm bought
the assets in two thousand and nine. Epstein later went
to arbitration with Fortress over his redemption attempt. The outcome
of that arbitration is not publicly known. That probably means
he he got his money back.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
You got some of it, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Slid Yeah, yeah, you don't want to say that out
loud and make it public, because everybody else who lost
their investments didn't get theirs back as I would believe
that Epstein did, especially with all of the special treatment
he's received.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
So it gets a little more interesting.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
And we've got Epstein and Barack in the car buying
company twenty fourteen to twenty nineteen. After his first arrest,
Epstein began an interest in the surveillance industry.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Oh my god, planes, media surveillance, Like all of this
is just screaming, covering all your bases and owning all
the companies that will help to protect, you know, and
facilitate whatever your deeds are.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
I hear you now, lindsay, how are you doing here?
Speaker 3 (38:29):
You?
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I'm doing well? Thank you about yourself.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
He's moving really fast.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yeah, got a flickering going on there, all right. So
Epstein maintained a close relationship with former Israeli Prime Minister
and Defense Minister Ehud Barock, exchanging private emails with him
and meeting more than thirty times between twenty thirteen and
twenty seventeen. He also facilitated Barock's interactions with prominent figures
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including Peter Theel, as well as Sergei Belyyakov and Viktor Veckelsvexelberg,
who were connected to Vladimir Putin's circle. We actually just
did a clash yesterday on graphology, and we looked at
Vladimir Putin's handwriting. Oh this man is he's Oh, he's
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hid some stuff.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Let's just say that.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
These interactions are documented in the leaked Barock Epstein emails
released by the Hendala hacker group, whose authenticity has been
partially corroborated by independent reporting including The Sunday Times. In business,
Epstein leveraged his relationship with Barack to get access to thel.
In twenty fifteen, Epstein invested in Reporting Homeland Security, later
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rebranded as Carbine, a startup headed by Baroq, which developed
advanced emergency communication technologies. The company's leadership included CEO amir
Ila High, a former Special Forces officer, and director Pinches
Buckert Buckers oh Man these names, a former Defense Ministry
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Director General and commander of IDF Cyber Unit eighty two hundred.
In many years, Epstein's acquaintances had repeatedly encouraged theal to
meet him. Reid Hoffman, Theel's friend from the PayPal mafia,
directly introduced the two and joined some meetings. Epstein pitched
reporting to THEAL found the Lar ventures in twenty sixteen,
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although the firm declined.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
The partner Andrew.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
McCormack, indicated that they might revisit the adventure once the
company matured. Epstein had previously invested US forty million into
funds managed by the law in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen.
In twenty eighteen, another the co founded firm Founder's fund
participated in reportings fifteen million Series B funding round, non
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leading role. Between twenty fourteen and twenty sixteen, half a
dozen scheduled meetings with Epstein at his townhouse, including with
other people such as Woody Allen and Catherine Rumler. There
is no record of feel social visits to one of
Epstein's homes or flights on his private jet. Now this
is what Wikipedia is reporting. I'm going to show you
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another article that is reporting something else, and we already
see how Wikipedia is basically controlling the narrative of what
it is. We're going to hear, see, and be able
to read in regards to this information, so trusting it
is just a little out there. But when I saw
pape Pal Mafia, which I literally think these people are
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making lots of money by allowing businesses to use and
take credit cards, which that bee is taken from us
at a rat of three to three point two five
percent for every transaction, depending on how the individual pays,
which I don't understand why it depends on how the
individual's paid as to how much they're going to charge me.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
It's paid, it's paid, period.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
But that does kind of fluctuate, as I just noticed
this last year.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
It used to be set amount.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Now it's fluctuating based on I guess how they pay.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
But I have so many payments through PayPal and would be.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Very taxing for me to go back and identify how
each member paid that bill to determine whether or not
my fees.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Were correct for what I was being charged. But I
do definitely have a question in regards to that.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
So the PayPal Mafia is a group of former PayPal
employees and founders who have since founded and or developed
additional technology companies based in Silicon Valley. So right here
in California. They created companies such as LinkedIn, Paliner Technologies,
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SpaceX of Firms, slide, Kaiva or Kiva.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
I'm not sure how you say that. Here's even worse
YouTube yelp and.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Most of the members attended Stanford University or the University
of Illinois.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Urbana Champagne.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Now members of the PayPal mafia Unfortune Magazine dressed in
a mafia like attire. We're back to this connection from
left to right, top road to bottom row Jawad Kareem,
Jeremy Stoppelman, Andrew McCormack, Primon Shaw, Luke nozak Ken, Howary
David O'sachs, Peter Thiel, Keith Rovoy, Reid Hoffman, Max Levchin,
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roll Off Botha and Russell Simmons.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Now is that.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yeah, Yeah, that's a rap per.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Well, So if if I had felt that I had
been being shadow band on YouTube, which has been a
discussion that I've had over the years with the algorithms
not really working out in my favor or the views
being given that it deserves of additional stuff, and then
go back to find out that the PayPal mafia, who
is somehow intertwined at least they're trying to say they're
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not in this article, but wait till I get to
the next one.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
This is released emails later.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
But these individuals are running the things like YouTube and
Yelp and LinkedIn. These are some of the primary places
where I actually post my videos.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Primary.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
I mean, this very channel right now posts immediately to YouTube.
And we've been banned from YouTube, the whole company for
a week because somebody mentioned something derogatory in regards to vaccinations.
So tell me again, We're not being stifled and people
aren't controlling our speech. They all need to stand up
for what they're responsible and they're a part of.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
So other businesses.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Barock discussed with Epstein in the leaked Barock Epstein emails
about meeting Putin's ally Victor Becklsberg on sixth and eighth
day of June twenty fourteen, and emails sent in April
twenty fifteen shows that Barack asked Epstein for his opinion
on Beckel's Bexelberg backed Fifth Dimension, a startup which later
shut down after being sanctioned in twenty eighteen by the
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US for alleged election medaling.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
WHOA, oh, yeah, they've been doing it forever.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Geopolitical activities.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
This was even more interesting twenty twelve to twenty nineteen
Ivory Coast Security Agreement. Between twenty twelve and twenty fourteen,
Epstein assisted for Israeli Prime Minister and Defense Minister Uha
Barack and what began as a private business initiative involving
internal security related projects in Ivory Coast. According to the
documents released by the US House Oversight Committee from Epstein's
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files and leaked emails from Barack, Epstein played an operational
role in advancing the effort. He coordinated Barack's meetings during
the UN General Assembly, connected him with Ivory Coast President
al was Saying Altara's chief of staff and other officials,
and helped arrange connections with the president's family back Meanwhile,
commissioned former Israeli intelligent officers to produce technical plans for
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nation wide phone and Internet monitoring. So if you can
monitor the Internet, then why can't you bust these pedophiles?
Why can't you bust these sights?
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Oh? Can't they have their priorities?
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Of course, the private initiative, Yeah, yeah, seeking out the
information and the best place to place their money.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
Next through the immediate like they said, immediate.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
Information that they're gathering by coming over all of this information.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
So why is an Israeli individual.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Wanting to comb over phone calls and Internet of US citizens?
Speaker 4 (46:44):
And why is why is Epstein helping with this?
Speaker 3 (46:50):
The private initiative later was the basis of a twenty
fourteen Defense and Internal security agreement between Israel and Ivory Coast.
What I really need to see is who is Ivory Coast?
But Epstein's involve Mongolia is.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Security western coast of Africa. Oh, right in the middle,
right in the middle of the coastline. It's a good
sized country. I had a former teacher that lived there well.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
And the thing is that if so, if they were
attempting to do this just in Africa, I mean there's
obviously big pole there too, Right, what the.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Hell does Israel have to do with the every coast
which is thousands of miles away, right?
Speaker 3 (47:28):
And if they can develop these types of systems, it
isn't going to be just someplace in Africa that they're
running these systems on. It's going to be where there's
there's nothing to stop them.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, yeah, more resort place because it's got a lot
of coastline.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
So it must be expensive to be there, and it
must be people with big money that's going, and maybe
that's why they want.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
To hear Africa. Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Mongoli Security Initiative. Epstein performs some similar facilit pitation work
as in Ivory Coast, for Barack and Mongolia. He assisted
in the promotion of israel surveillance technology for the Mongolian
government during this period. The Israeli intelligence officer Joni Korn,
a longtime associate and former aid to Barock, stayed multiple
times at Epstein's Manhattan residence, including while serving in a
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Barock's office in twenty thirteen and again during extended visits
in twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Those are powerful connections for Epstein, those Israeli Oh yeah,
guys there on a play.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
You know who he's reminding me of now is Doug
co Do you remember our our conversations. He's the guy
that's always seen in pictures standing behind presidents all the
way back to I think Eisenhower, and he ran the
an annual prayer breakfast, trying to bring all of this
the world's leaders, no matter how dastardly the leader was,
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he was trying to group them all together for this.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
To me, it's a big mob. That's the it's what
it looks like.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Well yeah, yeah, well well we're down.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
With the Israelis back in the two thousand and one
and yeah, and yes we covered that before.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
I think you got on because there was additional security
stuff that was we were talking about. We are down
to our last thirty seconds here. This has been an
explosion of information. I told you I went down a
rabbit hole two weeks ago, and I wasn't lying, just
to know that this is what's been controlling us. These
people all work connectively together to facilitate making money, keeping money,
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and it naturally harms lots of people. I may get
kicked off of YouTube after this. I have no idea,
but we are going to talk about that article, in
which case they do deem that there was a relation
and that Epstein had in fact donated money to the
fel businesses.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
So let's be a little concerned. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
We'll see if I continue to get Shadow band. Thank
you guys for being here this morning. We'll see you
all next Friday. Everybody take care to have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
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Good Morning, True Seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back
to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I would like to welcome to the show. Nolan del Campbell.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Good morning everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Good morning. How is your week?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It was solid. I had court Monday through Wednesday, and
then I was a Philly case yesterday, but they didn't
pay me, so I didn't go.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I've threatened to do this before.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And I think I have a client that you also
shared with me at one point because I refer him
to you, and I may or may not show up
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
No, I haven't been retained yet, so I didn't, you know.
And they're trying to on the guy. They're they're trying
to do a prelim when he hasn't even seen the discovery. Huh.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
So there, it's just like a preliminary.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Hearing or yeah, well it's yeah, and felony matters. You're
in time to go a prelim within ten days, and
the public defitter is the way they do it if
you're in custody. What they try to do is burden
the DA. So they if you're in custody, the automatically
set for a prelim within the ten days, but without
even a chance to try and work something out ahead,
(02:06):
you know, without even conferencing or anything. They're just sent
for prelimb.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
So how does that burden the DA.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Because they have to rush because the prelims, it's all
on the DA. It's a DA show. They have to
prove that there's enough evidence in the case to proceed
to trial, but.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
They have to get that evidence to the defense within
ten days.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well sooner than that, and then the hearing's within ten days.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Right right, so I can't Yeah, then the judge determines
if there's enough evidence to proceed to trial, they call
to hold them over for trial.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Okay, but it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, what I was gonna do, I was gonna send
it back to the Home Court and try and negotiate. First,
I haven't. I hadn't seen the discovery either, So anyway,
I think they're just rushing through.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, if you haven't been paid, Yeah, you can't get
started on dealing.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, because once you come in, you're in. And you
got to make at least three appearances.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Right, yeah, Well, and I've made two appearances, and I've
not been paid for the last two appearances, and so right.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Pretty much. And on the.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Last appearance I made it very clear that he was
to catch up before court took place. I get there,
of course he doesn't pay me like he should, and
then I tell him, look, I know that I didn't
get to testify once again. I'll be happy to defer
your retainer to the January date if you catch up
your bill for the last two appearances.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Not not word.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So he's either going to get recharged for for the
retainer fee and expected to pay all of that money
up front before I even walk out the door, Like,
there's no more trusting this person on.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Here a letter to that effect, though, So you have
it writing email?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, yeah, email, that sounds like a good idea.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Well, I had some exciting things happened this last week.
See if we can get this up I got my.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Certificate of achievement for graphology, so I'm very excited about right,
So I'm going to I just requested for my fictitious
business name statement for the new logo, which will throw
up the presentation and show you that I have developed
(04:29):
a logo for graphology, which will be a separate business
obviously from the forensics offering profiling and behavioral trading through handwriting,
which is going to be extremely exciting. I find this
far more interesting than the forensics and the fighting with
the dirty people in court, I.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Think, because these people when they come to you.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
They want to know things. Are you looking at my
culer ad? Get off my culer ad? What's that we are?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Quaar quare? I'll try to say that, right my My,
my tongue likes.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
El's evidently like tortilla.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Him for I you know, I don't I guess if
I had actually cared to read the news, because just
like I don't watch the news, I don't either read
the news.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It was familiar and he's obviously a politician, correct.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
So my whole point for throwing that up there is
that it came up obviously as a notification on my phone,
and when I clicked on it, it said no more,
mister nice guy, Trump bashes representative or I'm sorry, Republican Henry.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
No.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Republican because let me finish the headline. Republican Henry Henry,
what'd you say?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Kr kr are quare are quare pew.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Que are for running as a Democrat after pardon, he says.
One day ago Washington, President Donald Trump criticized Republican Henry
Quaar for a loyalty for running as a Democrat after
receiving a pardon.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, I wonder what he did to earn the punishment
that required a pardon.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Well, and I really don't even care what he did.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
The bottom line is is that they've got this good
old boy system up here in these ranks with these politicians,
where they can.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Pardon people for crimes and they get away with it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So obviously, I mean we're seeing we saw Biden pardon
his own son for anything past and present that might
be figured out. So who knows his son may have
been wrapped up with that old Epstein thing. It really
kind of boggled me as to why he was doing
future pardon for anything that a son may or may
not have done anyways, on both sides, on both sides,
(06:51):
and more to the point that, Okay, so a couple
of my favorite shows are Blacklist and Ozarks on Netflix.
And in Ozarks I was watching where they were, you know,
trying to get out of the drug cartel business and
into something legitimate, and uh, Wendy was making the claim
that you know, we're going to go legit now, and
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her daughter says something like, it doesn't matter you made
your money illegally, and Wendy says back, it doesn't matter
how you made your money. America forgets a couple of
months underneath, that'll be underneath the blanket basically, and we
will be legit and from then on out, we don't
have to break any more laws. Which, no, if you
came up breaking laws, you continue breaking laws. You don't
just stop because you're now legit. You're just a little
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bit more undercover about how you're breaking those laws.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, like Granddaddy Kennedy.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Exactly, Well, all.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Legit everybody in politics basically, it feels like especially we
talked about the representative from Florida last week where or
a couple of weeks ago where her healthcare business had
absconded with, you know, millions of dollars from COVID relief
funds in order to fund her campaign and get her
so now she's up for indictment. Like these people just
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do whatever it takes to get to where they want
to protect their money.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
The godfather al Pacino keeps telling Diane Keaton swear, after
this happens, after this happens, we're gonna go completely legit.
We'll be above bor for thirty years.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Well, and more importantly, when I saw this headline, it
made me feel very disturbed with Trump, who was formerly
a Democrat, who clearly was aware he was never going
to take presidency as a Democrat. What did he run
as an independent party first but didn't make it, and
then finally as a Republican.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
And made it?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yep, And here he's bashing somebody else for a lack
of loyalty, which is exactly what I said the second
I found out that Trump used to be a Democrat
and supported the Clintons.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
When was he ever a nice guy? Is? No?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
You know, that is a very good point, because I
am not sure. I don't think that he ever has been.
If you watch The Apprentice, you'd.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Know he's not.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, Park, So.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I plan on getting into these things a little bit more.
But I found I had collected old articles, and I
Juan tell Dean, I'm in the middle of my podcast,
and I told him not until after eleven my time.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
He's calling me right now. Thank you. One, I keep
old articles. Let's see if we can get this one up.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
This is The Times Harold, the Daily Times Herald out
of Dallas, Texas, and it is dated June twelfth, nineteen
fifty three. And the article that yeah, nineteen fifty three. Oh,
this thing is old as can be. I mean, like,
look at these paper ridges. Yeah, it's basically dark yellow,
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very very fragile and crispy. But the article that caught
my attention in this is actually from Eisenhower, and Eisenhower
is basically talking about his disdain for the Democrats and
the socialism they're trying to bring in to the country.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, I know, I was like, what's that.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
That was his first year as president. He got elected
in fifty two, started in January fifty three.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Oh mind you.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
This interview is going on while he's getting ready to
head out to go fishing, So basically it's talking a
little bit about that, But he's also talking about how
if they let the Democrats in to run the country,
that the Republicans will never get it back again. And
they don't want the socialism of the Democrats to take
over the country, and they want to keep the communists
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out and all of this veteran.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
War.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Probably kept it because it's Eisenhower, and we have the Eisenhower.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Stamp that the Zodiac used.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
He obviously had something for Eisenhower because he hasted so
many Eisenhower stamps on all his communications and a lot
of cases more than he needed to.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Well, he won reelection. He served eight years till nineteen sixty.
But at the end his exit speech he warned of
the military industrial complex. He saw it coming. So he
grew wiser with age, and he wasn't such a heavy
duty pulled warrior towards the end. But his term was over,
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and it is his vice president the whole time, the
whole years was Richard Nixon.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Oh and so then then we had Nixon come into
office wet in the sixties sixty eight.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
But Nixon ran against Kennedy in sixty and almost.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Won, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, Butnnedy had the backing of the mob and big
money and yeah, so there there's that.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
So now that.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
We've expounded upon the fact that jfk ran and won
with mob money, and then of course the theories are
that he was taken out by the very same people
who put him in right yep, because of his I
guess once he got in, he thought he could make
some changes and they're not allowed you to allow you
to do that.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I think this book I'm reading right now, it's about
the Kennedys and Marilyn Monroe and Dorothy Kilgallon, the journalist,
all of who've been murdered. And so it basically says
the mastermind behind it was the mob, the Chicago mob,
the Louisiana mob, and the Florida Jim Connor, Marcello and
(12:50):
the other guy I forget the third name, I'll company
Santra Trafficcarte in Florida.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
And those are all that they that Harriet believes she
deciphered in the letters as these connections to these individuals.
So I kept another one, it's Secrets of the Smithsonian
American History from the Smithsonian. At one point in time,
I guess I was getting these magazines. This one's not
as old. It's twenty nineteen, but it actually goes real.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Quick subject real quick briefly because it's the same book. Basically,
Joe Kennedy, the dad, is the one that brought in
the mob helped influence the elections in Illinois, mainly Chicago
area and a couple other Eastern states, and that's one
Kennedy election. But he basically promised these mobsters that we
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will go after you if you help us win the election.
Right then the first thing that John Kennedy does he
appoints Robert to be the trety typical and Roberts is
go go. So the mobsters felt betrayed.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Because they're they're they're the ones that get them to
where they're at. I mean, if people think that honestly
that politics is any has any separation or any degree
of separation from the mob they're absolutely ridiculous. So in
the Secrets of American History in the Smithsonian, I found
this article which i'll probably put this up more.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
It's Suspect at City Hall.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
It talks about this guy O'Dwyer, who was the mayor
of New York City. He was basically thought to be
a very honest and upstanding individual and he uh it
turned out he actually had connections with everybody, the mob, syndicates, cartels,
you name it. He was basically kind of the handyman
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for all of these individuals and facilitating whatever their needs
were so that they continued to make their money and
prosper And in the end result of this particular article,
O'Dwyer is actually given a Ambassador of Mexico position by
Truman because if it's found out that he has these
connections and he's brought to court to have to testify,
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it's going to come out that Truman is involved. So
the overall entire premise of this particular article is outing
this O'Dwyer guy and this da Miles MacDonald, who literally
put all the pieces together while O'Dwyer was in office,
and the only way to prevent him from being prosecuted
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was to make him an Ambassador of Mexico and send
him to Mexico, which that ties back around to our
thoughts and feelings about the CIA running establishments out of
Mexico where people would go to hide when they were
under indictment for tax evasion, Rico statue for.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
All like whatever it was that they were in trouble
for this included.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Huge CIA base.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
But yeah, yeah, this goes.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Tons of times to the Mexico City CIA base and
Oswald and the Kennedy assassination.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Well, and it says here that McDonald said that he
never he declined to run for governor and other high
public offices after being the DA because it was actually
quite simple.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
He said he would have been killed. Look at JFK like.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
You gotta tell Lauren.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, I don't think by any means that that was
somebody who was just paranoid.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I think what he was into. Yes, these people.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Another article that I found, and this kind of goes
to the attempts of media to sway the public as
to what's really going on in cases I'm trying to see.
This is May twenty six of twenty fourteen, and of
course the ahead article says this man killed John Bennet,
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and this is the man they're claiming Edwards.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Of course he has a completely different name.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
So this last week I have been contacted by somebody
who believes Lawrence Kaye.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Was the Zodiac. We looked at these guys as pictures.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I think I've covered ed Edwards as well already, so
I didn't make a big to do about it. The
bottom line is is that they're putting this out now.
I know that's the Globe, which is kind of more
like a tabloid style newspaper than somebody. And I hate
to even say not a reputable news source, because quite frankly,
we can see how none of the.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
News sources are reputable. Why didn't you go into journalism?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Why didn't I? Yeah, I did, that's why. I yeah, briefly,
but then I had interviews with Wall Street Journal, La Times,
and the Wall Street Journal didn't want me for some reason,
but La Times said they would hire me. Wanted me
to get some experience on a small daily first, and
(18:05):
I interviewed in lod I and it wanted me to
move to Lode and screw that. And so my dad said, hey,
you want to go to law school, I'll pay for it.
So I took the alsat and fled to the law schools.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Nice. Okay, well that.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Was really nice. Through college with journalism scholarships.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
There you go, k c.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Seconment of Press club.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Well, some of my some of my research also led
me back down a rabbit hole in regards to the
Sierra Club, which is the card that was involved with
Donna Lass And it turned out that Sierra Club was
not the Sierra Club. The Sierra Club, which was an
elite group, actually met at the Condominium Association, which is
named something completely different, which I'll be bringing that up
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at a later date once we wrap ourselves back around
it again. But it literally goes back to these elitist groups.
And why does the Zodiac keep pointing out oh.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Village in North Yes.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yes, So this article on this ed Edwards guy, which
I thought was more interesting as I was doing my
research and stumbled across Wikipedia's Zodiac suspect list. Once again,
of course they're bashing Dennis, and then they go on
to try to make light of me and that I'm
not credible because I have introduced John Bennet's handwriting or
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the ransom note handwriting into the cases, indicating that I
believe there's a connection between that handwriting and the Zodiac killers.
So while they're maintaining I must be not, I'm not
credible because I've made this astonished astonishment. They say in here,
this guy John Cameron, who is a retired cold case cop,
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reveals Edwards killed John Bennet, now of course, he's written
a book on it, and he's got this full page
spread by the Globe World Exclusive. But I want I
wanted to read just a spots out of it. Because
Cameron reveals Edwards, like Zodiac, enjoyed leaving false ransom notes
at crime scenes, giving clues to his identity. This supports
an analysis by FBI profiler John Douglas, who said that
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John Benay ransom note is a puzzle that could eventually
identify the killer. Certainly the writings of and I need
to find some writings from Edwards because that's really the
only way it's going to break down.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
In this note or anything else.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Left at other crime scenes, we contain personal information about
the victim's family, says former detective Cameron.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
This steers the investigation.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
To focus on someone within the family, while Edwards would
slip away laughing at the police. Let me see he
believes basically. His book states that he also believes that
ed Edwards could have been the Zodiac killer that he
began killing at the age of eleven, and that dates
it back to nineteen forty five. I almost have a
suspicion if I got his book that I would find
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that he was referring back to the Lipstick killings because
he refers to a little girl that was killed and beheaded,
but at the age of eleven. I find it very
hard to believe that this man at the age of eleven.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Was immersing what was his profession.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
He's all over the place again. I'm gonna do a
little more research into him. I'm pretty sure that based
on his not having any likeness to the Zodiac composite,
and his age is about five years younger than that, well,
I think it would have made him approximately thirty four
or thirty five at the time of the Zodiac killings
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when the officer folk indicated thirty five to forty one
that he did have kind of you know, a wrinkling
next and grain hair. So I don't believe that Edwards
was the likely person. And I did take a look
this time at Lawrence Kine's handwriting this last week, and
I found that he has a very poor line quality.
He suffered a brain injury to his frontal lobe in
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nineteen I want to say it was nineteen sixty or
nineteen sixty two. Way, he is very rudimentary handwriting that
doesn't have as nice of a line quality or speed
and fluidity as we see in the Zodiac letters, which
indicates to me that he's not the author of those letters.
If I can get some handwriting on Ed Edwards, I
will definitely take a look at that too. Either way,
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let's move back on to the nefariousness of this. I
say this case, but really we're still on Epstein at
this point, and there's a very big tie into this.
And that's why I want everybody to understand our history.
You know, if we forget about history, we stop looking
at these people in our future, and we vote for
them not knowing where they really came from and what
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they're prepared to do, which means not protect us. So
last week we were talking about Lolita Express.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Which is it? Says Epstein, who often.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Is pictured with or in a Golfstream G five point fifty.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Jet owned by the Jig Jay the company J E.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
G E. It's a an acronym with which he chartered
it and owned a Boeing seven to twenty seven and
traveled in it, frequently logging six hundred flying hours a year,
usually with guests on board. The jet was nicknamed the
Lolita Expressed by locals in the Virgin Islands because of
the frequent arrivals at Little Saint James with underage girls.
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Forbes reports that between nineteen ninety and two thousand and one,
the Lita Jet was owned by Wexner. Now Wexner is
the is that the Victoria secret guy I.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Don't know name sounds familiar, though.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Who then transferred it for an undisclosed sum to Epstein.
Andrew Mountbatten Windsor and Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's planes.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Robert F.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Kennedy Junior was interviewed in the course of his twenty
twenty four bid for presidency and came clean about his
travels with Epstein. In two thousand and three, Epstein flew
to Cuba with Colombian President Andres Pastrana Orango at the
invitation of Cuban President Fidel Castro. According to the Miami Herald,
Epstein was considering relocating to Cuba to evade US law enforcement.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Trump flew at least six times on Epstein's planes between
nineteen ninety three and nineteen ninety seven. According to Michael Corcoran,
Trump flew Epstein on his own airplane at least once.
In September two thousand and two, Epstein flew Clinton, Kevin Spacey,
and Chris Tucker to Africa in his jet flight records obtained,
and this is all information that's come out in the
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Epstein emails.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Basically, at least that's what Wikipedia saying.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
But we also heard Wikipedia say that I was full
of it because I made a connection that obviously other
people are making as well. We just had different suspects,
and my suspect's handwriting happens to match. So once we
get over that, home flight records obtained in twenty sixteen
show Clinton flew twenty seven times on the jet.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
In twenty nineteen, a Clinton spokesperson stated.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
That in two thousand and two and two thousand and three,
Clinton took four trips on Epstein's airplane, making stops on
three continents, all with his staff in secret service detail. WHOA, yeah,
liquid funding and the bear Sterns explosion. This is going
to describe the real estate market events that occurred from
two thousand to two thousand and eight, and I was
(25:19):
literally livid. This is why I left the real estate
businesses because this crash I believed could be directly linked
and blamed on the lenders who were providing bad products
that were not viable for Americans, and then we had
the largest amount of foreclosures in Americans losing their home.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
And now we're at a.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Point where Americans can barely even buy a home unless
you've got three different families living together and willing to
go in on a deed. The pricing and the interest
rates are so high that it makes it literally impossible
for anybody to in a lower level class to own
a home. So it says liquid Funding and the bear
Sterns Explosion two thousand to two thousand and eight. Epstein
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was the president of the Bermuda Incorporated company Liquid Funding
Ltd between two thousand and two thousand and seven.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
The company was.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
An early pioneer and expanding the king of debt that
could be accepted on repurchase, or the repo market, which
involves a lender giving money to a borrower in exchange
for securities that the borrower then agrees to buy back
at an agreed upon later time and price. The innovation
of Liquid Funding and other early companies was that instead
of having stocks and bonds as the underlying securities, it
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had commercial mortgages and investment grade residential mortgages. Bundled in
into complex securities as the underlying security. Liquid Funding was
initially forty percent owned by bear Stearns. Through the help
of credit rating agencies, Standard and Course Pitch ratings, and
Moody's Investor Service, the new bundled securities were able to
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be created for companies so that they received a gold
plated Triple A rating. The implosion of complex securities because
of their inaccurate ratings led to the collect the Bear
Stearns in March two thousand and eight and set in
motion the two thousand and eight financial crisis and the
subsequent Great Recession. If liquid Funding were left holding large
amounts of such securities as collateral, it could have lost
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large amounts of money. In August of two thousand and six,
a month after the federal investigation of him, Epstein invested
fifty seven million dollars in the bear Sterns High Grade
Structured Credit Strategies Enhanced Leverage Hedge Fund. The sec filings
for the bear Sterns fund showed that Epstein's Financial trust
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company controlled the boats of a ten percent share. This
fund was highly leveraged in mortgage backed collateralized debt obligations.
Now when I was done with real estate after watching
the fall of the market. What I saw was, you know,
subprime lenders go away.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
We were back to just regular banks. She needed to
fit back into a box.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
The foreclosure processes were heavy handed, and they were selling
the debt first off, then foreclosing on the property and
selling it on the court steps. And they also had
insurance to cover their losses, so these people were being
paid three These people became zillionaires, I guess I would
like to call it during this particular financial crisis that
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affected so many Americans. And this is why it's so
very important that you understand the camaraderie between and the
association of mobs, syndicate politicians, big banks, and Epstein is
kind of tying them all together for us right now.
And that's the only reason why I'm still kind of
even interested and reporting any of this stuff. So it
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says the US government began negotiation with Epstein for a
plea agreement in mid two thousand and seven, as the
bear sterns hedge fund began to collapse, and when I
looked at this financial trust company, it says in August
two thousand and six, a month after the federal investigation
of him began Epstein invested. Oh wait, I already read
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that SEC filings for bearsuit Epstein's Financial Trust Company controlled
the values of ten percent.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Oh oh, this is what I was trying to show you.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
So basically, whenever you find a red link on Wikipedia,
it's because they've scrubbed and removed the information. So I
thought it was very, very odd that while they are
basically reporting on the affiliations and businesses of Epstein, they
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have literally removed the information and regards to his his
businesses and the nefariousness of his businesses and what they
were involved with.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
And for me, that's again that's a hit in the gut.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Because encyclopedias don't go back to remove information. It is
a ledger of history. So why are you removing and
scrubbing from the Internet these particular companies.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
And we're going to more of that. So this was
just the first one.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
When I clicked on it, I went, wait a minute,
why it says literally financial Trust company page.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Does not exist? Well, the heck you say? It obviously
used to.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
So on April eighteenth of two thousand and seven, an
investor in the fund who had fifty seven million they're
talking about. Epstein discussed redeeming his investment. At this time,
the fund had a leverage ratio of seventeen to one,
which meant for every dollar invested, there were seventeen dollars
dollars of borrowed funds. Therefore, the redemption of this investment
would have been equivalent to removing one billion from the
thinly traded CDO market.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
The selling of CDO.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Assets to meet the redemptions that month began a repricing
process in general freeze in the CDO market. The repricing
of the CDO assets caused the collapse of the fund
of the fund three months later in July and the
eventual collapse of bear Sterns in March two thousand and eight.
Losses to investors in the two bear Stern funds were
estimated to exceed one one point six billion dollars. I
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don't know who has one point six billion to lose.
I don't know anybody multiple investors, right, but that's still
a lot. That's a lot of money. By the time
bear Stearn's fund began to fail in May two thousand
and seven, Epstein had begun to negotiate a plea deal
with the US Attorney's Office concerning imminent charges for sex
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with minors.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
In August of two thousand and.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Seven, a month after the fund collapsed, the US Attorney
in Miami, Alexander Acosta, entered into direct discussions about the
plea agreement a cost a broker to a lenient deal,
according to him, because he had been ordered by higher
government officials who told him that Epstein was an individual
of importance to.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
The government what the flip.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
As part of the negotiations, according to the Miami Herald,
Epstein provided unspecified information to the Florida federal prosecutors for
a more lenient sentence, and was supposedly unnamed investor number
one for the New York federal prosecutors in their unsuccessful
June two thousand and a criminal case against Kioffi and Tannin,
two of the managers of the failed bear sterns Hedge Fund.
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So basically he turned evidence, right, is that that's what
that's saying.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, in exchange for a lenient Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yeah, you can hear you can hurt our and abuse
our American citizens if you give him.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
But he was involved with this, He assisted in the
whole setup. He invested in the program.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
He was poor, and so if he turns evidence, not
only is he forgiven and given a lenient sentence for
all the women that he and children he's hurt, but
he also he also does not get implicated in this.
And oh maybe that's who Wexler was. That was his name, right, Wexler?
I said, I think was Wexler, the other Ponzi scheme
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guy that once again while Epstein was involved with him,
he went down and got busted for the Ponzi scheme,
but they.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Didn't even touch Epstein.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
They never even brought charges against Epstein even though he
was involved and even based on the Epstein documentary, he
was involved with that whole entire scheme. But somehow everybody
clears Epstein every single time. Let's see here as part
of the negotiations, according to the Miami Oh no blah
(33:28):
blah blah.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Alan Dershowitz, that's the attorney.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
One of Epstein's attorneys in two thousand and eight criminal
case told Fox Business Network in twenty nineteen, he would
have been touting that if he had cooperated. The idea
that Epstein helped in any prosecution is news to me.
Moody's report that on April eighteen, two thousand and eight,
all outstanding rated liabilities of liquid funding were paid in full.
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All outstanding and liquid funding was Epstein's business paid in full.
Debts exactly, Yeah, right, private debts too, exactly and oh,
I think you might get your answer. At the time,
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the liquidator had not yet sold the beleaguered fund to
its new owner as of May first, JP Morgan, so
all the debts were paid off just before it got
sold to JP Morgan.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Good morning, lindsay, Oh I see her.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I see her, but I don't see her all right,
So now we have ties to Zuckerman. In two thousand
and three, New York Daily news publisher Mordeman's Mortimer's Zuckerman
partnered with Epstein, advertising executive Donnie.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Douche, is it Deutsch who that Made My Day?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
And investor Nelson Pelton a bid to acquire New York Magazine.
The ultimate buyer was Bruce Wasserstein, a longtime Wall Street
investment banker, who paid US fifty five million, over US
ten million above the offer from Zuckerman, Epstein, Deutsche and Pouts.
In two thousand and four, Epstein and Zuckerman committed up
to US twenty five million to refinance Radar, a celebrity
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and pop culture magazine founded by Mayor Rashaan. Epstein and
Zuckerman were equal partners in the venture. Rashaan, as its
editor in chief, retained a small ownership stake. It folded
after three issues as a print publication and became exclusively
an online one.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Why where they.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Are magazine that's different from the New Yorker, right, because
the New York is huge. I didn't know there was
a New York magazine.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
It says a New York Daily News, and oh yeah,
the New York magazine.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Okay, so we've discussed.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Them trying to obtain an airplane. Come ees, right, because
they need to facilitate travel. Now, they would definitely need
some way of communicating with people right in their little
sick world of you know, pedophilia, and online databases are
evidently a great way of doing that. Two thousand and
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two to two thousand and eight a company called Zwern.
Between two thousand and two and two thousand and five,
Epstein invested eighty million in the DB's worn a Special
Opportunities Fund. Notice again, we have a red highlighted link
that means that that link is no longer available, and
that information has now been scrubbed. Special Opportunities Fund a
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hedge fund that invested in ill liquid debt securities. In
November two thousand and six, Epstein attempted to redeem his
investment after he was informed of accounting irregularities irregularities in
the fund. By this time, his investment had grown to
one hundred and forty million. Huh, that's nice. That's a
sixty million dollar increase these were in fund refused to
(37:01):
redeem the investment. Hedge funds that invest in ill liquid
securities typically have years long lockups on their capital for
all investors, and require redemption requests to be made in
writing sixty to ninety days in advance. The fund was
closed in two thousand and eight, so obviously this must
have been part of whatever was going on with that crash,
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and its remaining assets of approximately two billion, including Epstein's investment,
were transferred to Fortress Investment Group when that firm bought
the assets in two thousand and nine. Epstein later went
to arbitration with Fortress over his redemption attempt. The outcome
of that arbitration is not publicly known. That probably means
he he got his money back.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
You got some of it, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Slid Yeah, yeah, you don't want to say that out
loud and make it public, because everybody else who lost
their investments didn't get theirs back as I would believe
that Epstein did, especially with all of the special treatment
he's received.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
So it gets a little more interesting.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
And we've got Epstein and Barack in the car buying
company twenty fourteen to twenty nineteen. After his first arrest,
Epstein began an interest in the surveillance industry.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Oh my god, planes, media surveillance, Like all of this
is just screaming, covering all your bases and owning all
the companies that will help to protect, you know, and
facilitate whatever your deeds are.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
I hear you now, lindsay, how are you doing here?
Speaker 3 (38:29):
You?
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I'm doing well? Thank you about yourself.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
He's moving really fast.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yeah, got a flickering going on there, all right. So
Epstein maintained a close relationship with former Israeli Prime Minister
and Defense Minister Ehud Barock, exchanging private emails with him
and meeting more than thirty times between twenty thirteen and
twenty seventeen. He also facilitated Barock's interactions with prominent figures
(38:59):
including Peter Theel, as well as Sergei Belyyakov and Viktor Veckelsvexelberg,
who were connected to Vladimir Putin's circle. We actually just
did a clash yesterday on graphology, and we looked at
Vladimir Putin's handwriting. Oh this man is he's Oh, he's
(39:19):
hid some stuff.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Let's just say that.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
These interactions are documented in the leaked Barock Epstein emails
released by the Hendala hacker group, whose authenticity has been
partially corroborated by independent reporting including The Sunday Times. In business,
Epstein leveraged his relationship with Barack to get access to thel.
In twenty fifteen, Epstein invested in Reporting Homeland Security, later
(39:46):
rebranded as Carbine, a startup headed by Baroq, which developed
advanced emergency communication technologies. The company's leadership included CEO amir
Ila High, a former Special Forces officer, and director Pinches
Buckert Buckers oh Man these names, a former Defense Ministry
(40:07):
Director General and commander of IDF Cyber Unit eighty two hundred.
In many years, Epstein's acquaintances had repeatedly encouraged theal to
meet him. Reid Hoffman, Theel's friend from the PayPal mafia,
directly introduced the two and joined some meetings. Epstein pitched
reporting to THEAL found the Lar ventures in twenty sixteen,
(40:30):
although the firm declined.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
The partner Andrew.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
McCormack, indicated that they might revisit the adventure once the
company matured. Epstein had previously invested US forty million into
funds managed by the law in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen.
In twenty eighteen, another the co founded firm Founder's fund
participated in reportings fifteen million Series B funding round, non
(40:55):
leading role. Between twenty fourteen and twenty sixteen, half a
dozen scheduled meetings with Epstein at his townhouse, including with
other people such as Woody Allen and Catherine Rumler. There
is no record of feel social visits to one of
Epstein's homes or flights on his private jet. Now this
is what Wikipedia is reporting. I'm going to show you
(41:16):
another article that is reporting something else, and we already
see how Wikipedia is basically controlling the narrative of what
it is. We're going to hear, see, and be able
to read in regards to this information, so trusting it
is just a little out there. But when I saw
pape Pal Mafia, which I literally think these people are
(41:38):
making lots of money by allowing businesses to use and
take credit cards, which that bee is taken from us
at a rat of three to three point two five
percent for every transaction, depending on how the individual pays,
which I don't understand why it depends on how the
individual's paid as to how much they're going to charge me.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
It's paid, it's paid, period.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
But that does kind of fluctuate, as I just noticed
this last year.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
It used to be set amount.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Now it's fluctuating based on I guess how they pay.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
But I have so many payments through PayPal and would be.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Very taxing for me to go back and identify how
each member paid that bill to determine whether or not
my fees.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Were correct for what I was being charged. But I
do definitely have a question in regards to that.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
So the PayPal Mafia is a group of former PayPal
employees and founders who have since founded and or developed
additional technology companies based in Silicon Valley. So right here
in California. They created companies such as LinkedIn, Paliner Technologies,
(42:48):
SpaceX of Firms, slide, Kaiva or Kiva.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
I'm not sure how you say that. Here's even worse
YouTube yelp and.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Most of the members attended Stanford University or the University
of Illinois.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Urbana Champagne.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Now members of the PayPal mafia Unfortune Magazine dressed in
a mafia like attire. We're back to this connection from
left to right, top road to bottom row Jawad Kareem,
Jeremy Stoppelman, Andrew McCormack, Primon Shaw, Luke nozak Ken, Howary
David O'sachs, Peter Thiel, Keith Rovoy, Reid Hoffman, Max Levchin,
(43:32):
roll Off Botha and Russell Simmons.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Now is that.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yeah, Yeah, that's a rap per.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Well, So if if I had felt that I had
been being shadow band on YouTube, which has been a
discussion that I've had over the years with the algorithms
not really working out in my favor or the views
being given that it deserves of additional stuff, and then
go back to find out that the PayPal mafia, who
is somehow intertwined at least they're trying to say they're
(44:08):
not in this article, but wait till I get to
the next one.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
This is released emails later.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
But these individuals are running the things like YouTube and
Yelp and LinkedIn. These are some of the primary places
where I actually post my videos.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Primary.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
I mean, this very channel right now posts immediately to YouTube.
And we've been banned from YouTube, the whole company for
a week because somebody mentioned something derogatory in regards to vaccinations.
So tell me again, We're not being stifled and people
aren't controlling our speech. They all need to stand up
for what they're responsible and they're a part of.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
So other businesses.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Barock discussed with Epstein in the leaked Barock Epstein emails
about meeting Putin's ally Victor Becklsberg on sixth and eighth
day of June twenty fourteen, and emails sent in April
twenty fifteen shows that Barack asked Epstein for his opinion
on Beckel's Bexelberg backed Fifth Dimension, a startup which later
shut down after being sanctioned in twenty eighteen by the
(45:11):
US for alleged election medaling.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
WHOA, oh, yeah, they've been doing it forever.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Geopolitical activities.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
This was even more interesting twenty twelve to twenty nineteen
Ivory Coast Security Agreement. Between twenty twelve and twenty fourteen,
Epstein assisted for Israeli Prime Minister and Defense Minister Uha
Barack and what began as a private business initiative involving
internal security related projects in Ivory Coast. According to the
documents released by the US House Oversight Committee from Epstein's
(45:42):
files and leaked emails from Barack, Epstein played an operational
role in advancing the effort. He coordinated Barack's meetings during
the UN General Assembly, connected him with Ivory Coast President
al was Saying Altara's chief of staff and other officials,
and helped arrange connections with the president's family back Meanwhile,
commissioned former Israeli intelligent officers to produce technical plans for
(46:04):
nation wide phone and Internet monitoring. So if you can
monitor the Internet, then why can't you bust these pedophiles?
Why can't you bust these sights?
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Oh? Can't they have their priorities?
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Of course, the private initiative, Yeah, yeah, seeking out the
information and the best place to place their money.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
Next through the immediate like they said, immediate.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
Information that they're gathering by coming over all of this information.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
So why is an Israeli individual.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Wanting to comb over phone calls and Internet of US citizens?
Speaker 4 (46:44):
And why is why is Epstein helping with this?
Speaker 3 (46:50):
The private initiative later was the basis of a twenty
fourteen Defense and Internal security agreement between Israel and Ivory Coast.
What I really need to see is who is Ivory Coast?
But Epstein's involve Mongolia is.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Security western coast of Africa. Oh, right in the middle,
right in the middle of the coastline. It's a good
sized country. I had a former teacher that lived there well.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
And the thing is that if so, if they were
attempting to do this just in Africa, I mean there's
obviously big pole there too, Right, what the.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Hell does Israel have to do with the every coast
which is thousands of miles away, right?
Speaker 3 (47:28):
And if they can develop these types of systems, it
isn't going to be just someplace in Africa that they're
running these systems on. It's going to be where there's
there's nothing to stop them.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, yeah, more resort place because it's got a lot
of coastline.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
So it must be expensive to be there, and it
must be people with big money that's going, and maybe
that's why they want.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
To hear Africa. Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Mongoli Security Initiative. Epstein performs some similar facilit pitation work
as in Ivory Coast, for Barack and Mongolia. He assisted
in the promotion of israel surveillance technology for the Mongolian
government during this period. The Israeli intelligence officer Joni Korn,
a longtime associate and former aid to Barock, stayed multiple
times at Epstein's Manhattan residence, including while serving in a
(48:18):
Barock's office in twenty thirteen and again during extended visits
in twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Those are powerful connections for Epstein, those Israeli Oh yeah,
guys there on a play.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
You know who he's reminding me of now is Doug
co Do you remember our our conversations. He's the guy
that's always seen in pictures standing behind presidents all the
way back to I think Eisenhower, and he ran the
an annual prayer breakfast, trying to bring all of this
the world's leaders, no matter how dastardly the leader was,
(48:54):
he was trying to group them all together for this.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
To me, it's a big mob. That's the it's what
it looks like.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Well yeah, yeah, well well we're down.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
With the Israelis back in the two thousand and one
and yeah, and yes we covered that before.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
I think you got on because there was additional security
stuff that was we were talking about. We are down
to our last thirty seconds here. This has been an
explosion of information. I told you I went down a
rabbit hole two weeks ago, and I wasn't lying, just
to know that this is what's been controlling us. These
people all work connectively together to facilitate making money, keeping money,
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and it naturally harms lots of people. I may get
kicked off of YouTube after this. I have no idea,
but we are going to talk about that article, in
which case they do deem that there was a relation
and that Epstein had in fact donated money to the
fel businesses.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
So let's be a little concerned. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
We'll see if I continue to get Shadow band. Thank
you guys for being here this morning. We'll see you
all next Friday. Everybody take care to have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
They have good weekend. See Friday if
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