May 2, 2025 • 50 mins
Imagine coming home and finding your landlord/roommate dead on the basement floor… You quickly become the prime suspect. Follow the story of Peter Wilson whose day went from bad to worse that turn into a 30-year nightmare in prison. Illegal search and seizure, removal of alibi evidence by the State, planted evidence, State’s experts testify to faulty medical data/forensics, and a potential suspect leaves the country in the middle of the whole thing. Deserves a Writ of Habeas Corpus 2 Part Series
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:52):
Good Morning, True Seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back
to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac. Today,
I'm going to take a segue from the Zodiac case.
I have not done this before, but I thought that
this was a very important issue of wrongful conviction, and
we are going to see a podcast that I have
recorded with Nolan del Campo and the owner of the
(01:14):
YouTube channel, San Joaquin Valley, Transparency on a wrongful conviction
of Peter Wilson. We're going to play a portion of
that podcast today and approximately about forty seven minutes of it,
and then we are going to break that and come
back the following week, the following Friday, in order to
run the balance of that actual podcast. I just want
(01:38):
everybody to see the evidence that he is presenting in
his request for a writ of habeas corpus based on
new evidence, and I actually helped him in this case
with the handwriting to identify the arresting officer. So what
you're going to hear today is kind of a real
time type thing that's going on. We can see the
URLs up here in the PowerPoint presentation. One of the
(02:00):
lead you back to my actual website, which is www
dot Handwriting, document Examination dot com, Forward slash Pages, forward
slash Free, Hyphen Peter Hyphen Wilson. You can also find
this complete podcast by San Joaquin Valley Transparency with David Via.
He actually spends his days policing the police, and if
(02:23):
you haven't seen this channel, you need to go see
what he actually holds the police accountable for. He has
been single handedly responsible for getting six police chiefs who
were doing bad business for the public to resign and
he's working on number seven. So this is the actual
YouTube url that you're going to find for the full
video up here, which is the ends in the nine ys,
(02:48):
and then we also have his actual url here beneath
that that will take you to his YouTube channel where
you can find all of the videos that he produces.
So with that, I'm going to go ahead and get
this video started so that we can get the most
of it played today for you.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
All right, guys, what you're about to see is a
podcast episode between myself, an attorney, and a handwriting analyst
named Nanette Bartow who's worked on the Zodiac case. She
actually has a YouTube channel where you can go over
there and catch up what she's been working on with
the Zodiac. I've been following her for at least thirteen years.
I will be dropping her links, so make sure you
go check her out. So what this podcast episode is
(03:29):
about is an innocent man who's been locked up for
over thirty years and miss Bartow has been hired to
look over some of the handwriting from that case and
what she discovers makes her want to look at all
the other evidence as well. Miss Bartow has found new evidence.
Hence mister Wilson can file a hebayas corpus, meaning he
can possibly get a new trial because of the new evidence.
(03:50):
The reason for this podcast is to see if we
can get an innocent man out of prison. A quick
rundown of the story. A young man rents a room
from a woman and there's another man, William Coleman, who
also rents a room from that woman. Mister Wilson arrives
home to find the woman dead in the house. The
cops are called, mister Wilson is arrested for murder, and
mister William Coleman disappears, never to be heard from again.
(04:13):
Mister Wilson is convicted and he's spent thirty years trying
to exonerate himself. We believe there is new evidence and
if something ever happens to me, I want an Annette
Bartow on the case. This is truly an unbelievable podcast episode. Folks,
Let's see if we can all work together to get
this man out of prison. So, without further ado, here's
the full interview. Mister Nolan Dell Gumpel, you want to
(04:37):
tell us who you are and why we're here today.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Well, I'm in ane and I'm a hero at the
request and then at to see if I can contributed
any legal knowledge or any historical knowledge to the podcast.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Cool and many of you guys have met Nanette Bartow before.
I've interviewed her her and we've talked to her. She's
a handwriting analyst and she's worked on the Zodiac case,
and I do believe that her work is outstanding. I've
actually been following her for a long time. We will
include her link for you guys. You guys can go
(05:16):
subscribe to her channel. But Nanette, you put this presentation together?
Am I right?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yes? Okay? Do you want to tell us what this is?
What we're looking at?
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (05:28):
This is actually a live case that I've taken as
a handwriting expert. I was contacted by mister Peter Wilson,
who is currently incarcerated and has been since nineteen ninety
six for a murder he claims to be innocent of.
He asked me to look at some entries for removal
(05:49):
of blood evidence from his.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
From the police lockup and to determine whether or not
that handwriting and removal of that that evidence was done
by the arresting officer, And in doing so, he then
laid out more evidence which really kind of shows that
there is a good possibility that he was absolutely framed
for this murder. Evidence has been withheld, evidence has been planted,
(06:18):
and of course his alibi had been removed and taken
out of his case file. Subsequently, after thirty years and
obtaining more documentation on his case. He was finally given
these pages which would have supported his alibi and likely
would have caused him to be found innocent in this
particular crime.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
So with all this evidence that is being put together,
is it possible that mister Wilson can get another trial
or possibly released because of this evidence?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That is what he's requesting at this point in time.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
He has put forth a writ of habeas corpus to
the Santa Clara court system and probably no one could
elaborate a little bit more on what that is.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
It's the last ditch effort after all your appeals are
exhausted to try and seek your freedom. Basically, the habeas
corpus being the body and it's old school term from
back in the day. Problemly is with habeas corpus now
(07:29):
it's governed by federal law. I think you first do
a state one and then your last ditch effort is
a federal abeas. But they've changed the laws on it,
so there's a deadline that I think would be long past.
The way around the deadline is if there's new evidence,
(07:50):
and it seems like it is saying is that there's
newly discovered evidence which would give him a loophole to
maybe that we have the authority to file the hedious.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
And what is the new evidence.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
So basically the new evidence that he has discovered is,
again we have alibi information, which our receipts, statements, things
that were written during the time the DA.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Claims the murder occurred.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
So the DA has given a timeframe of approximately an
hour and ten minutes from twelve forty eight pm on
Saturday the thirtieth to one fifty eight pm, in which
time the murder was.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Purportedly taking place.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
He had alibi evidence that was removed from the police file,
so that evidence has now come to light, and we
do have pages that indicate that it was taken out
by somebody, which we'll see in this He also had
sent the DNA analysis of both the crime scene and
his actual DNA that was taken by the police department
(09:03):
to an independent lab, and that independent lab found that
the electro faragrams are basically the degradation of the DNA
was identical, and that was impossible for that to be
identical between blood that was taken from his arm versus
blood that was at a crime scene.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
So that is new evidence.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And then also discovering these pages that listed his alibi
and having been having that removed basically from the police
file meant that it was not seen in court or
talked about.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Also, there was another gentleman man been involved. What was it,
William Coleman.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yes, so William Coleman was the second roommate.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
So mister Peter Wilson was a roommate of a Hawk
Jukim and William Coleman was also a resident in that house.
While Peter Wilson was gone particular day because he took
a taxi ride into San Francisco to approximately two pm,
(10:05):
he returned home and discovered a Hawk duw Kim at
approximately three fifty three or three fifty eight in the morning.
He approached mister Coleman and had indicated that something was
wrong with her.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
She needed help, asked him to call the police, and.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
He basically kind of him hot around and was not
even remotely interested in going and taking a look.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I mean, I'm sorry, somebody's dead in my house. I
probably want to see this.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
But he was very nonsalant, as mister Wilson describes it,
and it took him a minute to even get on
the phone and call the police department, which he evidently did,
and at some point in time before the preliminary hearing
of mister Wilson, mister Coleman actually has gone into another country.
So there was, yeah, a red flag there, and even
(10:52):
the DA stipulated to the fact that they could not
locate this individual, but they were going to proceed with
this trial against my client, mister Wilson. Unfortunately, they did
not look at anybody else.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
They basically from the moment they walked through the door
decided it was going to be mister Wilson, and they
subsequently planned their entire case around that.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Okay, can we back up a second, sol So woman
died in the residence of these two people.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It was her house and they're her renters.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Yes, oh, okay, so they were renting from her rooms
from her.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And what town was this, Palo Alto.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Palo Alto. Okay, so Santa Claric Cary or which carry
is that.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I'm not sure of.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
The county Okay, Santa Clara County Superior Court is where
mister Wilson was convicted.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Okay, Okay, you're Santa claraic Airy Okay, so big county.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, it is right there.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Was also sperm an intact motiles sperm found on the
victim's body, and she was an older Asian lady who
had been divorced for several years. Her family had indicated
she was not a likely person to date or to
have casual sex. Some of the evidence that they found
was she was found at the bottom of the basement
(12:17):
with no shirt on, one shoe off to the right,
her road lane next to her, and when they had
done the autopsy and taken her pants down, they found
leaves that were located in the basement that were stuck
to her bottom, So clearly somebody had pulled her pants
down in order for that leaf to have become stuck
to her bottom, and then pulled her pants back up.
(12:37):
And then they literally did everything they could try and
show that this was not a rape. So the DA
had not tested the actual sperm, which probably would have
exculpt my client, but also tried to indicate that she
was sexually active and that she could have had sex
(12:57):
up to three days previous to her murder, which subsequent
evidence coming out shows that motile sperm only stays motile
for approximately twelve hours before the tales begin to fall
off and it's no longer mobile, so that doesn't fit
in with the timeframe of the DA's the time frame
in which they claim that she was murdered because the
autopsy was not done until the following Monday. Mind you,
(13:19):
they claim she was killed on Saturday, but Monday morning
is when they're finding this motile sperm, which means it
literally had to have happened within the last pretty much,
you know, twelve to twenty four hours. They did have
missions and pathologists testify on their behalf, and they had
testified that the again that the sperm could be motile
(13:42):
for you know, seventy two hours they testified to rigamortis
LATS lasting much longer than it actually does. And then
in subsequent testimony, he was actually able to find other
cases these individuals testified in where they basically are refuting
in the very testimony they gave in his case by
claiming that it would not be motile after twelve hours
(14:03):
and that ridamortis was set at this particular timeframe.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So they're basically confirming or I'm sorry again refuting basically
what they testified against him in.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Okay, we're both the roommates there. When the cops arrived.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yes, okay, so, and.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Of course Wilson and not the other guy or wrong
should they be open minded, both of them.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
But absolutely, And mister Coleman was being investigated obviously up
until the point that he left the country, so he
was part of it. But mister Wilson had actually gone
down the stairs and attempted to assess miss him to
determine whether or not she had actually expired, and in
doing so, obviously would have you gotten any of his
(14:54):
DNA on her at that point in time and possibly
any blood that she might have had because she was
bludgeoned to death.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
That had been one of the reasons why the other
guy wouldn't go investigate, because he didn't want to leave
more evidence.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Correct. And if we were to walk down let's say,
let me see if I can.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I hate to ask this question, but do you believe
that it's possible that she was actually raped?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Absolutely, They found semen, they found motile sperm.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Again, the whole family. It had indicated that she is
not somebody who just casually dates.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
She hadn't been seeing anybody. They would have known they
had really close contact with her. So basically the outline
on this starts off with Saturday, March thirtieth in nineteen
ninety six in Palo Alto. She's fifty nine years of age.
She's a single woman of Asian descent. She had been
(15:50):
divorced for twenty years and not known to be dating
anyone by friends and family. She had last spoken to
or she had last The last phone call made out
of her house was approximately twelve forty four to twelve
forty eight pm. She had called her niece and her
niece was not home. Her niece then attempted two phone
(16:10):
calls before one twelve pm, got a busy signal, so
likely she was on another phone call previous to leaving.
And then after the two phone calls, she basically was
just going straight to voicemail.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Found blood in to death in.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Her basement, partially nude, with a four x twelve basically
laid across her shoulders.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
We already talked about the robe and.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
The pants belief, so blood and so they did not
find a murder weapon in the sink.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And basically mister Wilson's story.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Is is that when he had come home before catching
his cab to San Francisco, he saw that a vehicle
was parked in the driveway and it had a cover
over it, and miss Kim's vehicle was actually gone. When
he got back at three am, her car was now
in the driveway and the vehicle that was there when
(17:07):
he had left with the taxi cab was gone.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Let's see.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
So what were the ages of the two ridders, Wilson Clayton,
good question.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I am not sure.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
It seems to me that he was going to college
at the time, so he was probably eighteen to twenty
two somewhere around there.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Very young.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I don't have any information on mister Coleman as far
as his age, but it sounds to me like she
just rented out maybe to college students or you know,
things like to make ends meet.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Was he at Stanford?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And so basically, the DA claims the murder occurred between
twelve forty eight pm and one fifty eight pm, and
that mister Wilson had taken the phone off the hook
while he committed the crime, which is why the phone
was busy when the niece attempted to call the suspects
sat They also claimed that mister Wilson had sat her
down before.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Murdering her and made her write three rental receipts. This
just sounds ridiculous to me. Let me get you to
write me a rental receipt that I paid my rent
right before I kill you. But this is what the
da is laid out.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So basically, inside of this hour and ten minutes, he
sat her down, made her write out three rental receipts,
proceeded to kill her and bludgeon her in the basement.
She had multiple contusions and lacerations to the head and face.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That he then laid this four x twelve beam onto
her body. And then the suspect had time to clean
up and take Kim's shirt because it purportedly had blood
on it or she wasn't wearing one. That's what the
DA argued. DA also argued that miss Kim had not
been raped.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
It was consensual sex with an unknown lover in an
earlier time up to three days prior. The medical examiner
Parvey's popped him on testifies that no visual sign of
torn damage tissue to the vaginal region indicated no rape occurred,
but later testimony he testified in other cases more recently
that just because there isn't visible damage doesn't mean that
they weren't raped, so we've got a conflict of testimony there.
(19:14):
The crime lab technician Nancy Murtey found one intact sperm,
but she testifies that sperm can maintain motility for up
to seventy two hours, so it was possible that the
victim had consensual sex as early as three days before
being killed, and this was never tested for DNA. That's
the most disappointing part because the DA did not want
to go in at a rape murders type scenario. They
(19:38):
just basically wanted to kick that and make it sound
as implausible as possible. The lab technologist Milt Smith testifies
in trial that he drew two vials of blood, but
two officers after that, including the arresting officer, testified that
there was only one vial. So I don't understand how
the jury would come.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
To a conclusion. If a lab tech says I pull
two vials period, I pull one for DNA typing and
I pull one for any type of outside influences such
as drugs, alcohol, or otherwise, he says he pulls two vials,
but then we have two other officers that are stating
there was only ever one vile polled and that's where
I came into play, says, Page is nine. Okay.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
So page is nine, which is an alibi for Rogers
Restaurant that mister Wilson was at at one thirty, which
would have.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Been mid crime spree, was removed from his file.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
What was taken from his backpack copy to put into
the file and then subsequently removed.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Now, if I could get more handwriting.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
From the individuals that were involved during this time, we
might be able to identify who was the person responsible
for removing that file. And I can show those particular
papers here shortly. And then the one twenty six, which
is another page which was a Caltran's receipt which is
in the alibi showing that he purchased this particular ticket
(21:03):
to come home at eleven I want to say it
was eleven thirty PM. That was also removed from the
police file and not provided to the defense during both trials.
So basically, once the backpack had been searched, the items
had been taken out, it was determined that these could
provide him with an alibi. They then subsequently removed them
(21:24):
from the police file altogether. And that's just scary. So
Detective Michael Yorke contacts the corner at six fifty six
pm on the thirty first, which is the following Sunday,
and tells him to show up in.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
About forty to fifty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
When he gets there, he has to wait an additional
twenty to twenty five minutes to go down to the
basement because the forensic team was not yet finished when
he arrived. And this is from direct testimony from the
actual corner corner's statement that the body was in full
rigor mortis at approximately eight thirty based on his testimony,
and rigamurtis was gone by nine to thirty am the
following Monday morning and typically will last approximately twenty four
(22:03):
hours as far as I can tell, so eight to
twelve hours till they make it to full rigidity.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
And if she was in full rigor at eight pm
at night, then that meant that her murder had happened
sometime in the early morning hours of Sunday. My client,
mister Wilson, believes that mister Coleman had killed Kim before
he had gotten home, and that he didn't stumble onto
the body until he'd actually made a couple tracks back
(22:29):
and forth. He had left the house when the seven
eleven got himself some snacks, came back, was on his
way to the bathroom when he passed by the basement
door and saw miss Kim down at the bottom of
the stairs. Quick question, Yeah, who was Wilson's lawyer? I
(22:50):
don't know that. I never asked that question. I'm going
to think that it was likely a public defender, especially
you know, yeah, if we're talking about a young kid,
what's that hearing?
Speaker 5 (23:04):
He may have been railroading. But I mean that's on
his lawyer as much as anything.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
So no, because the evidence, the exculpatory evidence, like the alibi,
was removed from the file.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
He didn't have access to it. His attorney didn't have.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Access to it. Okay, so that's part of the argument, right.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
So it's now he said, she said he could just
be making up stories without these other pieces, and we're
gonna we're going to show those items here in a
couple seconds. Now, the medical examiner Parves Pacaman testifies rigor mortis,
or stiffness has developed of rigidity in the decedents muscles,
which starts usually after death. We expect to have full
rigidity within the first eight to twelve hours rigidity depends
(23:44):
on a number of factors. One would be the state
of health of the decedent prior to death, the weight,
whether he or she was thin or obese, the exposure
to ambient temperature. The heat would actually expedite the process,
where the cold would actually delay the development and its disappearance.
Miss Kin's body was in a cool basement, so we
can't anticipate that there's going to be a longer time
(24:07):
to go through this. But still, if she is in
full rigidity at eight pm, eight thirty pm, then even
at those cooler temperatures, that only backs it up to
probably about the time that mister Wilson believes mister Coleman
actually killed her, which would have been at around three am.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Was mister Wilson, No, mister Coleman ever considered a suspect,
And did you ever read why or how he was cleared?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
He wasn't cleared.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So basically the only thing that it states in the
actual trial transcripts is that the DA stipulates to the
fact that nobody can find him, and that's because he's
left the country. Well, I do have some pieces in
here from the police report, like the evidence logs, which
become very very convoluted as well. I am actually on
(24:59):
slides right now of my presentation, and this is some
of the evidence that was.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Taken from the backpack.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Basically, what we have here is a note of an
illegal search and seizure. So basically he claims that Michael Yore,
the arresting officer, had searched his backpack even though he
did not give permission for that. To the right here,
we actually see when the research warrant was actually requested
was not until April first. So the fact that we
(25:27):
have murkings up here saying taken from backpack thirty first
to March nineteen ninety six, wouldn't that allude to the
fact that they searched him illegally.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
If he didn't consent, and he didn't.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Consent, and the police reports it says he strictly did
not consent for them to go into his backpack.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
So basically, this.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Little funding.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
In the backpack, yes, and that's the exculpatory evidence, that's
his alibi basically. So we have a receipt up.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Here on three point thirty nine at eleven thirty three
PM for a ticket from San Francisco one way to
Palau alto below that we have an actual note that
mister Wilson wrote out when he was a Rogers restaurant,
and it says, I found a women's person Rogers restaurant Saturday,
thirteen thirty three thirty nineteen ninety six. I found a
(26:19):
women's person Rogers restaurant and gave it to the bus
boy who ran out with the purse. But it's hard
to read his writing. He's got a very.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Very few minutes later he returned with purse and gave
it to his wife of restaurant behind the counter. I
also told them my phone number. If they will have
a question to call me. That would mean he would
have witnesses to corroborate that right well, and they did.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Private investigators and the district District Attorney's office sent out
investigators to discuss with the actual owner. Now there were
some key points here.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
The owner absolutely won underd percent remembers this day number one,
because it was their last day in business.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
They shut the doors the following day, so they know.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Now she couldn't say the precise time that mister Wilson
was in her shop, but she did state that this
perset incident absolutely happened. So she is coroborating, but she
cannot give him a timeframe, which allowed the DA to
kind of play around that and state that it could
have been earlier that it was there, that he was there,
and he'd still have had time to actually commit this crime.
(27:31):
So this particular piece was removed from his backpack as well,
it was copied, it was put into the file, and
then subsequently removed. Did not show up a trial again, though,
seized on the thirty first of March, when their search
warrant isn't even good until April first, So right there,
we have them playing with this individual's rights.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Was there any evidence that was recovered from him that
was used against him now in that.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Urge other than no, not in the search, but in
the blood evidence. They found his blood at the crime scene,
so as if to say he had injured himself in
some way.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And that's when the.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Story gets even a little bit more interesting because he
picks up this ride with this particular taxi cab driver
who's already had a heck of a day. So once
he leaves this Rogers restaurant at one point thirty is
basically his time frame. He states, he walks a couple
blocks and he stops at a payphone.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
He calls the Yellow Cab company to meet him at
his place and pick him up.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
So there are phone calls made in this procession which
also link up, and the Yellow Cab is also capable
of saying, yes, we did receive these calls from mister Wilson,
and it was from a payphone, because if it had
come from a home residence, then we would have been
able to clock the phone number because he is a
continuing client and his phone number would have came up
and they would have known exactly where to go. When
he made the phone call to the Yellow Cab company,
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the dispatcher actually gave the wrong address of the taxi
cab had gone to the wrong location, and by the
time mister Wilson had made it home in approximately one
fifty eight in the afternoon, he returned another call saying, hey,
where's the taxi cab. The dispatcher let them let him
know that they accidentally dispatched to the wrong address. They
would get him over there immediately, so at approximately two
(29:19):
or four PM, the cab driver shows up picks him up.
At this point in time, he has no idea where
Kim is. He's stating that strange car is in the driveway,
her car has gone, and that he hasn't seen her
pretty much at all. That day, the taxi cab driver
gets into San Francisco, gets lost, can't find the location
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he's supposed to be going to because he's not familiar
with San Francisco, and so mister Wilson tells him, just
take me to the Cow trans station. I'll have my
friends meet me there. When he gets into the cow
trans station, as he's getting out of the vehicle, I'm
guessing that the cab driver was a little frustrated, but
he accidentally slams mister Wilson's hand into the car, which
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then breaks some fingers, rips off a fingernail. He's bleeding profusely.
Now he's got to get himself to the hospital. He
spends the rest of the night in the hospital. He
has all of this as evidence. He is not even
around and he's also freshly bandaged. So there is notations
in the police report, the investigating officer that was looking
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over mister Wilson, you know, notating whether or not he
had any brasions or scratches. He had none physically, and
of course he indicated that there would be blood underneath
his fingernails because he just recently had this accident for
which he has evidence for and he was in the
hospital for he has to prove it. Yes, yes, but
this is why the DA was forced to back up
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the murder time frame from twelve forty eight to one
fifty eight PM, because he had viable alibi for everything thereafter.
If they simply remove the fact that he was at
that restaurant and walked home during the timeframe in which
they claimed she.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Was murdered, Wow, so they just played around with the
time frame.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
Yes, yes, any story about how he got hurt, yep,
all of it, and that injury occurred during the murder.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I didn't really get into that so much. But what
I did take note to is that the investigating officer
did make note that mister Wilson's hand had a fresh
bandage on it, and I would have thought that if
he had had this fresh bandage, so he got this
bandage done between the hours of let's say three o'clock
in the afternoon and midnight while he's at the hospital
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before he comes home, if he had then touched her,
he would have had blood on this bandage, which would
have meant that he'd on become in contact with her
after the bandaging of his hand.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I mean it just I can't even wrap my mind
around how they were able to get him.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
After him and ignoring the other guy.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Because the other guys sconded. Now they don't have a
suspect at all.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
As well, justice, he's got to keep them open mind
that I have been the other guy, and flight is
a circumstantial evidence as to guilt, right.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Well, And here's the thing on when they removed these
items from his backpack on the thirty first, copied it
and put it into his file as if they were
actively investigating him as the culprit. Mister Coleman hadn't absconded yet.
When the blood was removed from the actual evidence locker,
mister Coleman hadn't absconded yet, So it looked to me
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like they were looking to railroad him from the very beginning.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Okay, how soon do they arrest Wilson after the that morning? Wow?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Oh, Sunday morning, Yes.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Sunday morning, on the thirty first, they took him in.
They didn't arrest.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Him, no, No, they just arrested.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Were already assuming it was Wilson.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Right, was it?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Because Coleman is the one who actually called the police.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It may very well have been.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
And he was instructed to do so or prodded to
do so by my client because he was resistant to
do so.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
He wouldn't even go down and help him assess her.
He literally was doing everything he could to stay clear
of it, but did evidently end up actually calling the
police department. And sometimes I mean we see in law
tell me if I'm wrong, Nolan, he who files first
sometimes wins.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Right right, Yeah, it happens a lot of domestic violence too,
right with But it was the house strong that was
used for the call.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Yes, yes, So another report from evidence that collected on
four to one of nineteen ninety six showed that Officer
Kale Gibson states that they assisted detective You're in the
execution of the search warrant executed on four to one
ninety six in her report or his report dated four
one ninety six at three point thirty two, four PM
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is when they claim they executed this search. But we
had we saw the handwriting that says taken from the
backpack on three point thirty one. So now we've got
an officer who's kind of playing the game. You know,
we didn't do this search until four to one it
became mandatory. I think that they removed that stuff from
the actual police file simply because it would literally have it,
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it wouldn't have been admissible, right, I mean now that
they're in trouble for doing something that they shouldn't have done.
So it makes me think that that illegal search and
seizure preempted the final acts of framing mister Wilson for this.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
What's tearl just because you'd have bad police work. There's
no reason to send that innocent man to prison for murder.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
We know that definitely.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
So in this they stated that they took out US currency,
small changes, key chain and keys, wallet, credit cards, Stanford
University ID cards, health cards, telephone calling cards, suspects, phone
book and address book, computer discs, miscellaneous papers, letters and receipts,
and a blue binder containing miscellaneous papers, receipts.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
And bills.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
So these are basically what they're stating at this particular
point in time, and that was on slide.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Right. It was more exploratory than in priminating, and that's
why it goes missing exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
And then on slide eight. Basically, I showed another police report.
This is from the investigating officer that's actively doing the
search of mister Wilson at the time at the house,
basically before he is arrested. I just wanted to point
out a couple of things that they talked about in here,
because I found them to be very interesting.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Officer G. Brooks put I took two Polaroid spectral head photos,
which I gave to Detective Your and Detective Your is
our officer in question for the framing act, he says.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
I then photographed Wilson with a Pentax Easy seventy thirty
five millimeter camera using a Pentax flash accessory. I took
full body photos, then took close ups of his hands.
I decided not to attempt to remove the bandages and
splint from his right fifth finger little finger, as it
appeared to have been professionally bandaged. I decided to wait
(36:18):
until our work at the police station was done, then
take Wilson to the Sanford Hospital emergency room so staff
there could remove the bandage and rewrap the finger. The
first roll of film, the full torso and hands, was
labeled and placed in evidence.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Next, I attempted to get.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Scraping from under Wilson's fingernails. The nails had already been
trimmed down to the skin. It was difficult to obtain
samples due to the shortness of the nails. However, some
small samples were recovered and placed in individually marked envelopes.
These were later placed in evidence. As I was taking
the samples, Miss Wilson mentioned there would be blood there
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on his hands and nails, and he had tried to
help the victim after he had found her. He also
told me he had washed his hands after he had
attempted to help. Either way, there would have been evidence
if there was on this bandage.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Did they take this?
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I mean, if this bandage now contains her blood and
he can prove he's.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Been gone for the last nine hours getting it.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Wrapped at a hospital, they would state that he was
not the one that was there killing her.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
He says.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Next, I use a gunshot residue collection kit. I'm not
sure why she wasn't shot with their gun, right, that's it,
says I visually inspected Wilson's body for scars, tattoos, or
any signs of trauma.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Scratches, bruises, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
I did not see any so here he is ultimately
and basically full on combat with a feisy Asian woman, because,
let me tell you, some of the recollections from her
neighbors and so forth indicates she's a very spunky, get
in your face, climbing on the side of vehicles, screaming
at people as they're trying to pull away from her yard,
(37:58):
like she's she's going to give you a But he
has absolutely nothing, no signs except for this wrapped hand.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
See, I did not see.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Question the background of this other guy that fled. Was
he a Stanford student as well?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I have I have no information on him. I'm sure
I could ask my client. He probably would have some
more information on whose.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, right, But.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
You know, sometimes in these in these positions, these people
roommates are not don't really you know, spend too much
time together. If they're not friends, they're not hanging out,
they're not you know, they're not really knowing too much
about each other. Maybe just the basics like where he
worked or you know, what he does for a living,
if he was a student. But I'm not going to
suggest that he absolutely is going to know this person.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
You know, hands down. What are the races Wilson and
Coleman kind of scream Caucasian.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Both of them.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Well, Coleman Coleman is a stereotypical white name.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
It's not listed on the police report.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Your client is Peter Wilson, right, Yes, you seem to
know not to get off topic, but you seem to know.
Maybe it's because your time being involved with handwriting analysis
and probably different court cases as well, but you seem
to have taken on full investigation on this and done
(39:24):
your homework on all of the stuff that's happening, the
police reports and the vials and everything, the missing vile
and if something ever happens to me, can you jump
on the case please?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Absolutely, And actually I really do appreciate the way he
went about it. Just like when I worked the Zodiac case.
Dennis Kaufman came to me and he said he wanted
me to look at handwriting, but he also wanted me
to view his website and see the other pictorial evidence
and things.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
That he had against Jack Terrence.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
And I told him, until I completed my examination, I
did not want to see any of that. I did
not visit his website or his message board to determine
what other evidence he had. I needed to do this
in an unbiased manner, and I appreciate mister Wilson. Yeah, yes, yes,
and I appreciate that mister Wilson when he engaged my services,
did not lay any of this other stuff on me.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
So he basically asked me to do the handwriting.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
And then after the handwriting, I received a package from
him that included the independent lab that looked at the
DNA that information, and so he kind of piecemealed it
out to me after that, and I got little bits
and little bits, and the more I got interested and
the more I wrote back.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
The more he would send. And I basically have maybe
I mean, and he has to handwrite all of this literally,
he's handwriting it from transcripts from court proceedings from you know,
what had occurred. But I probably have a good couple
hundred pages that he has handwritten from prison to me.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
And when I have a question like okay, so was
your hand injured? What was he talking about?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Then I'd have to wait, you know that two weeks
for a letter to come back. So it's been a
very lengthy process over about two years.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
But I have fight.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
I do believe that I've finally gotten, you know, down
to the bottom of everything that he contends occurred. And
to me, it definitely looks like we have an innocent
man that has been in prison for thirty years. If
I continue on with this particular one.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
We're getting to that.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
So basically, I'm just kind of going over the police
reports and what occurred at the time of them actually
showing up to the residents, as he.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
Didn't see where is he incarcerating.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
A palle olt to police department. I'm guessing at this
point at a po out to jail.
Speaker 5 (41:46):
What prison is he in right now?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Now?
Speaker 3 (41:49):
He's in an actual medical facility in the Stockton area.
They had to transfer him out of prison because he
is failing on health on I believe that he's probably
got some mental health issues going on, and he's not
able to eat when he was in the establishment, So
they have sent him out to a medical facility where
(42:10):
he actually is doing much better right now. I'm very
happy that they were at least able to help him
out with that. See I requested, okay, so he didn't
see any scars, bruises, or abrasions. Once Wilson had removed
his clothes. I requested he comba's pubic region over a
clean towel. Again, why did you do this if you
(42:31):
didn't think she was raped, if you weren't going to run?
They did a literal rape kit on this guy. They
found motile sperm on her, and they didn't do any
testing on it. Forensically, I got the comb and tow
from a sexual assault evidence collection kit. Wilson did as
instructed and also at my request, plucked approximately twenty five
(42:52):
years from his pubic region. These were placed in an
envelope I provided. I also plucked head here from five
areas around his school. A sal live a sample was
taken using a collection device provided in the sexual assault kit.
These items were labeled and placed in evidence. Wilson was
given two sets of disposable jumpsuits, which he put on.
Officer Susan then began rolling Wilson's palm and fingerprints.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
So there, they automatically just went straight at him.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Will they do the same thing to the other guy?
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Again, that's a question I will have to ask mister Wilson.
It says shortly before noon, Technologist mill Smith ID number
one oh six A ride at noon, drew two vials
of blood, so this is the only place you see
two vials. From here on out, all testimony and transcripts
are going to indicate that only one vile of blood
was taken.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
For the typing.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
So he says one for typing and one to test
for alcohol and or other substances. I received the samples
and placed them in the evidence refrigerator, So he's went
straight into the refrigerator and should never have come out
until they went to the lab.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
Was one of the vials ever tested for his blood?
When they used one of them, say they tested it
for alcohol or substance abuse? Did they say that none
was found and that they basically used the entire vile
for that? Is that what they're trying to say?
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Well, that I'm not really sure of. But what I
do know is that we have testimony from the individual
who took all of the forensic evidence to the lab
to be tested, and that officer stated that only one
vial of blood existed. So when they came in to
do their job, which was to get and collect the
(44:36):
forensic evidence and take it to the lab, there was
only one vial. So now we're caught between this guy
says he took two at the residence where the murder occurred.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Le me see Wilson again refused. Oh, and here we
do have in this particular report. So at this point
in time, mister Wilson again refused to give permission to
enter the backpack and asked if he could use other
sources such as the phone book, basically looking to make
his phone call. But all his phone numbers were in
his phone book. They wouldn't even give that to him
because he wouldn't allow them to search his backpack.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
And this is on the thirty first. Now, of course,
this is where we get into.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
On slide nine, we can actually see the entry this
was one of my jobs at hand, which is this
statement here that says removed one vial thirty first of
March ninety six and pertains to the case number. He
asked me to compare this particular handwriting to Michael yor
the arresting officer's handwriting, which we'll get to that handwriting
(45:34):
exam examination here in a second.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
But this is el Dillard.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
This particular notation says that package one brown bag containing
gray briefs collected from Wilson on three thirty one, ninety six,
item number seven on the property sheet by d SUSA
and package number two envelope containing blood sample just one,
so no indication that there is double. And then she's
(46:00):
later testifies and trial that she only had one that
she took to the lab. Property evidence report shows one
violin inventory yet one vile removed by Detective Michael Yure
on three thirty one, So these are two different dates.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
El Dillard actually.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Did this particular report on four one ninety six, so
that's when she took the physical evidence that was taken
from the crime scene to the lab. So we do
have two different dates here, and I didn't have el
Dillard's handwriting to match to this particular notation. But the
good thing was is that it matched mister yours so
well we didn't need anybody else. So next light on
(46:39):
slide number ten basically gives us the map of what
it looks like from where mister Wilson actually was at
Rogers Restaurant basically on the corner of University Avenue.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
And let's see, so at one o five PM, this
is his Now, this is mister Wilson's accounts of that
particular day. At one o five he arrives at Rogers restaurant.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
He eats at one thirty PM, approximately is when he
finds the woman purse.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
He makes the note.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
He leaves the restaurant at approximately one thirty five. At
about one for he calls the Yellow Cab company from
a payphone on your University Avenue. And I've kind of
mapped that out with this second X up here just
down the way from Rogers Restaurant. Let's see, he's asking
(47:29):
to be picked up at his residence by two PM.
At one fifty eight pm, he calls Yellow Cab again,
this time from home to find out that the address
was dispatched incorrectly. At two two pm, Yellow Cab a
ride starts the meter and drives until three forty six pm,
and he ends up at the cows Trans station, where
he ends up with his handslammed in the door at
(47:50):
approximately three point fifty. At four forty pm, he's admitted
to UCSF Medical Center in San Francisco, and at ten
PM he's discharged from the hospital. Eleven thirty three, we
see he purchases the ticket from Caltrans to return to
Palo Alto.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
He says he arrived at the.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
Station at approximately twelve ten am and he arrives at
home at one ten am because it takes oh, I'm sorry,
the ticket is for twelve ten am. He doesn't arrive
home or to the station until one ten am. At
two fifty am he actually arrives home, and then at
three forty five am he heads to the bathroom and
finds Kim and he tells Coleman to call and at
(48:28):
three fifty three, So it took eight minutes for mister
Coleman to actually pick that phone up and make that
phone call.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Damn, yeah, eight minutes.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Eight minutes he's trying to coax this guy into calling
the police. Testimony that we had on behalf of mister
Wilson was the owners of the restaurant, as we discussed
owners at the dispatcher of the Yellow cab company, and
the actual cab driver all testified on his behalf as
to what he was saying was true. Mister Bertram Glass
(49:01):
is actually the cab driver, and he actually filed an
incident report of the hand being slammed in the door,
so we know that that did not happen at the
house in you know, the heat of the moment type thing.
Medical personnel testified to his hand and the time in
the hospital. Miss Kim's family testified that mister Wilson's defense
that Miss Kim had not dated anyone during that timeframe
(49:22):
and was not sexually active to their knowledge, the fact
that the leaf from the basement floor was stuck to
Miss Kim's buttocks under her underwear and pants. So now
we've got even more pieces of clothing that's been pulled
down in order for that leaf to actually get there.
Rigor mortis max. Thirty six hours. Kim's was done by
nine to thirty am on four one ninety six, which
(49:45):
means she was killed after nine pm on Saturday evening, and.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Mister Wilson could not He wasn't home. He was simply
at hospital.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Okay, Oh, I'm was so into that myself rewatching it.
I just thoroughly and am excited and looking forward to
this writ of habeas corpus for mister Wilson.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
We're going to continue with the balance of this.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Actual presentation and podcast with mister David Villa on next Friday.
We'll finish off the last twenty minutes or so, and
then my goal will be to answer all the questions
that I could not answer at that time, So I
want everybody to enjoy your weekend, have a great week
and we will see you next Friday.
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Good Morning, True Seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back
to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac. Today,
I'm going to take a segue from the Zodiac case.
I have not done this before, but I thought that
this was a very important issue of wrongful conviction, and
we are going to see a podcast that I have
recorded with Nolan del Campo and the owner of the
(01:14):
YouTube channel, San Joaquin Valley, Transparency on a wrongful conviction
of Peter Wilson. We're going to play a portion of
that podcast today and approximately about forty seven minutes of it,
and then we are going to break that and come
back the following week, the following Friday, in order to
run the balance of that actual podcast. I just want
(01:38):
everybody to see the evidence that he is presenting in
his request for a writ of habeas corpus based on
new evidence, and I actually helped him in this case
with the handwriting to identify the arresting officer. So what
you're going to hear today is kind of a real
time type thing that's going on. We can see the
URLs up here in the PowerPoint presentation. One of the
(02:00):
lead you back to my actual website, which is www
dot Handwriting, document Examination dot com, Forward slash Pages, forward
slash Free, Hyphen Peter Hyphen Wilson. You can also find
this complete podcast by San Joaquin Valley Transparency with David Via.
He actually spends his days policing the police, and if
(02:23):
you haven't seen this channel, you need to go see
what he actually holds the police accountable for. He has
been single handedly responsible for getting six police chiefs who
were doing bad business for the public to resign and
he's working on number seven. So this is the actual
YouTube url that you're going to find for the full
video up here, which is the ends in the nine ys,
(02:48):
and then we also have his actual url here beneath
that that will take you to his YouTube channel where
you can find all of the videos that he produces.
So with that, I'm going to go ahead and get
this video started so that we can get the most
of it played today for you.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
All right, guys, what you're about to see is a
podcast episode between myself, an attorney, and a handwriting analyst
named Nanette Bartow who's worked on the Zodiac case. She
actually has a YouTube channel where you can go over
there and catch up what she's been working on with
the Zodiac. I've been following her for at least thirteen years.
I will be dropping her links, so make sure you
go check her out. So what this podcast episode is
(03:29):
about is an innocent man who's been locked up for
over thirty years and miss Bartow has been hired to
look over some of the handwriting from that case and
what she discovers makes her want to look at all
the other evidence as well. Miss Bartow has found new evidence.
Hence mister Wilson can file a hebayas corpus, meaning he
can possibly get a new trial because of the new evidence.
(03:50):
The reason for this podcast is to see if we
can get an innocent man out of prison. A quick
rundown of the story. A young man rents a room
from a woman and there's another man, William Coleman, who
also rents a room from that woman. Mister Wilson arrives
home to find the woman dead in the house. The
cops are called, mister Wilson is arrested for murder, and
mister William Coleman disappears, never to be heard from again.
(04:13):
Mister Wilson is convicted and he's spent thirty years trying
to exonerate himself. We believe there is new evidence and
if something ever happens to me, I want an Annette
Bartow on the case. This is truly an unbelievable podcast episode. Folks,
Let's see if we can all work together to get
this man out of prison. So, without further ado, here's
the full interview. Mister Nolan Dell Gumpel, you want to
(04:37):
tell us who you are and why we're here today.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Well, I'm in ane and I'm a hero at the
request and then at to see if I can contributed
any legal knowledge or any historical knowledge to the podcast.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Cool and many of you guys have met Nanette Bartow before.
I've interviewed her her and we've talked to her. She's
a handwriting analyst and she's worked on the Zodiac case,
and I do believe that her work is outstanding. I've
actually been following her for a long time. We will
include her link for you guys. You guys can go
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subscribe to her channel. But Nanette, you put this presentation together?
Am I right?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yes? Okay? Do you want to tell us what this is?
What we're looking at?
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (05:28):
This is actually a live case that I've taken as
a handwriting expert. I was contacted by mister Peter Wilson,
who is currently incarcerated and has been since nineteen ninety
six for a murder he claims to be innocent of.
He asked me to look at some entries for removal
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of blood evidence from his.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
From the police lockup and to determine whether or not
that handwriting and removal of that that evidence was done
by the arresting officer, And in doing so, he then
laid out more evidence which really kind of shows that
there is a good possibility that he was absolutely framed
for this murder. Evidence has been withheld, evidence has been planted,
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and of course his alibi had been removed and taken
out of his case file. Subsequently, after thirty years and
obtaining more documentation on his case. He was finally given
these pages which would have supported his alibi and likely
would have caused him to be found innocent in this
particular crime.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
So with all this evidence that is being put together,
is it possible that mister Wilson can get another trial
or possibly released because of this evidence?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That is what he's requesting at this point in time.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
He has put forth a writ of habeas corpus to
the Santa Clara court system and probably no one could
elaborate a little bit more on what that is.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
It's the last ditch effort after all your appeals are
exhausted to try and seek your freedom. Basically, the habeas
corpus being the body and it's old school term from
back in the day. Problemly is with habeas corpus now
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it's governed by federal law. I think you first do
a state one and then your last ditch effort is
a federal abeas. But they've changed the laws on it,
so there's a deadline that I think would be long past.
The way around the deadline is if there's new evidence,
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and it seems like it is saying is that there's
newly discovered evidence which would give him a loophole to
maybe that we have the authority to file the hedious.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
And what is the new evidence.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
So basically the new evidence that he has discovered is,
again we have alibi information, which our receipts, statements, things
that were written during the time the DA.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Claims the murder occurred.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
So the DA has given a timeframe of approximately an
hour and ten minutes from twelve forty eight pm on
Saturday the thirtieth to one fifty eight pm, in which
time the murder was.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Purportedly taking place.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
He had alibi evidence that was removed from the police file,
so that evidence has now come to light, and we
do have pages that indicate that it was taken out
by somebody, which we'll see in this He also had
sent the DNA analysis of both the crime scene and
his actual DNA that was taken by the police department
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to an independent lab, and that independent lab found that
the electro faragrams are basically the degradation of the DNA
was identical, and that was impossible for that to be
identical between blood that was taken from his arm versus
blood that was at a crime scene.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
So that is new evidence.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And then also discovering these pages that listed his alibi
and having been having that removed basically from the police
file meant that it was not seen in court or
talked about.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Also, there was another gentleman man been involved. What was it,
William Coleman.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yes, so William Coleman was the second roommate.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
So mister Peter Wilson was a roommate of a Hawk
Jukim and William Coleman was also a resident in that house.
While Peter Wilson was gone particular day because he took
a taxi ride into San Francisco to approximately two pm,
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he returned home and discovered a Hawk duw Kim at
approximately three fifty three or three fifty eight in the morning.
He approached mister Coleman and had indicated that something was
wrong with her.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
She needed help, asked him to call the police, and.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
He basically kind of him hot around and was not
even remotely interested in going and taking a look.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I mean, I'm sorry, somebody's dead in my house. I
probably want to see this.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
But he was very nonsalant, as mister Wilson describes it,
and it took him a minute to even get on
the phone and call the police department, which he evidently did,
and at some point in time before the preliminary hearing
of mister Wilson, mister Coleman actually has gone into another country.
So there was, yeah, a red flag there, and even
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the DA stipulated to the fact that they could not
locate this individual, but they were going to proceed with
this trial against my client, mister Wilson. Unfortunately, they did
not look at anybody else.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
They basically from the moment they walked through the door
decided it was going to be mister Wilson, and they
subsequently planned their entire case around that.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Okay, can we back up a second, sol So woman
died in the residence of these two people.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It was her house and they're her renters.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Yes, oh, okay, so they were renting from her rooms
from her.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And what town was this, Palo Alto.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Palo Alto. Okay, so Santa Claric Cary or which carry
is that.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I'm not sure of.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
The county Okay, Santa Clara County Superior Court is where
mister Wilson was convicted.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Okay, Okay, you're Santa claraic Airy Okay, so big county.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, it is right there.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Was also sperm an intact motiles sperm found on the
victim's body, and she was an older Asian lady who
had been divorced for several years. Her family had indicated
she was not a likely person to date or to
have casual sex. Some of the evidence that they found
was she was found at the bottom of the basement
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with no shirt on, one shoe off to the right,
her road lane next to her, and when they had
done the autopsy and taken her pants down, they found
leaves that were located in the basement that were stuck
to her bottom, So clearly somebody had pulled her pants
down in order for that leaf to have become stuck
to her bottom, and then pulled her pants back up.
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And then they literally did everything they could try and
show that this was not a rape. So the DA
had not tested the actual sperm, which probably would have
exculpt my client, but also tried to indicate that she
was sexually active and that she could have had sex
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up to three days previous to her murder, which subsequent
evidence coming out shows that motile sperm only stays motile
for approximately twelve hours before the tales begin to fall
off and it's no longer mobile, so that doesn't fit
in with the timeframe of the DA's the time frame
in which they claim that she was murdered because the
autopsy was not done until the following Monday. Mind you,
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they claim she was killed on Saturday, but Monday morning
is when they're finding this motile sperm, which means it
literally had to have happened within the last pretty much,
you know, twelve to twenty four hours. They did have
missions and pathologists testify on their behalf, and they had
testified that the again that the sperm could be motile
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for you know, seventy two hours they testified to rigamortis
LATS lasting much longer than it actually does. And then
in subsequent testimony, he was actually able to find other
cases these individuals testified in where they basically are refuting
in the very testimony they gave in his case by
claiming that it would not be motile after twelve hours
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and that ridamortis was set at this particular timeframe.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So they're basically confirming or I'm sorry again refuting basically
what they testified against him in.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Okay, we're both the roommates there. When the cops arrived.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yes, okay, so, and.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Of course Wilson and not the other guy or wrong
should they be open minded, both of them.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
But absolutely, And mister Coleman was being investigated obviously up
until the point that he left the country, so he
was part of it. But mister Wilson had actually gone
down the stairs and attempted to assess miss him to
determine whether or not she had actually expired, and in
doing so, obviously would have you gotten any of his
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DNA on her at that point in time and possibly
any blood that she might have had because she was
bludgeoned to death.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
That had been one of the reasons why the other
guy wouldn't go investigate, because he didn't want to leave
more evidence.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Correct. And if we were to walk down let's say,
let me see if I can.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I hate to ask this question, but do you believe
that it's possible that she was actually raped?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Absolutely, They found semen, they found motile sperm.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Again, the whole family. It had indicated that she is
not somebody who just casually dates.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
She hadn't been seeing anybody. They would have known they
had really close contact with her. So basically the outline
on this starts off with Saturday, March thirtieth in nineteen
ninety six in Palo Alto. She's fifty nine years of age.
She's a single woman of Asian descent. She had been
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divorced for twenty years and not known to be dating
anyone by friends and family. She had last spoken to
or she had last The last phone call made out
of her house was approximately twelve forty four to twelve
forty eight pm. She had called her niece and her
niece was not home. Her niece then attempted two phone
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calls before one twelve pm, got a busy signal, so
likely she was on another phone call previous to leaving.
And then after the two phone calls, she basically was
just going straight to voicemail.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Found blood in to death in.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Her basement, partially nude, with a four x twelve basically
laid across her shoulders.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
We already talked about the robe and.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
The pants belief, so blood and so they did not
find a murder weapon in the sink.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And basically mister Wilson's story.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Is is that when he had come home before catching
his cab to San Francisco, he saw that a vehicle
was parked in the driveway and it had a cover
over it, and miss Kim's vehicle was actually gone. When
he got back at three am, her car was now
in the driveway and the vehicle that was there when
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he had left with the taxi cab was gone.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Let's see.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
So what were the ages of the two ridders, Wilson Clayton,
good question.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I am not sure.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
It seems to me that he was going to college
at the time, so he was probably eighteen to twenty
two somewhere around there.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Very young.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I don't have any information on mister Coleman as far
as his age, but it sounds to me like she
just rented out maybe to college students or you know,
things like to make ends meet.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Was he at Stanford?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And so basically, the DA claims the murder occurred between
twelve forty eight pm and one fifty eight pm, and
that mister Wilson had taken the phone off the hook
while he committed the crime, which is why the phone
was busy when the niece attempted to call the suspects
sat They also claimed that mister Wilson had sat her
down before.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Murdering her and made her write three rental receipts. This
just sounds ridiculous to me. Let me get you to
write me a rental receipt that I paid my rent
right before I kill you. But this is what the
da is laid out.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So basically, inside of this hour and ten minutes, he
sat her down, made her write out three rental receipts,
proceeded to kill her and bludgeon her in the basement.
She had multiple contusions and lacerations to the head and face.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That he then laid this four x twelve beam onto
her body. And then the suspect had time to clean
up and take Kim's shirt because it purportedly had blood
on it or she wasn't wearing one. That's what the
DA argued. DA also argued that miss Kim had not
been raped.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
It was consensual sex with an unknown lover in an
earlier time up to three days prior. The medical examiner
Parvey's popped him on testifies that no visual sign of
torn damage tissue to the vaginal region indicated no rape occurred,
but later testimony he testified in other cases more recently
that just because there isn't visible damage doesn't mean that
they weren't raped, so we've got a conflict of testimony there.
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The crime lab technician Nancy Murtey found one intact sperm,
but she testifies that sperm can maintain motility for up
to seventy two hours, so it was possible that the
victim had consensual sex as early as three days before
being killed, and this was never tested for DNA. That's
the most disappointing part because the DA did not want
to go in at a rape murders type scenario. They
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just basically wanted to kick that and make it sound
as implausible as possible. The lab technologist Milt Smith testifies
in trial that he drew two vials of blood, but
two officers after that, including the arresting officer, testified that
there was only one vial. So I don't understand how
the jury would come.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
To a conclusion. If a lab tech says I pull
two vials period, I pull one for DNA typing and
I pull one for any type of outside influences such
as drugs, alcohol, or otherwise, he says he pulls two vials,
but then we have two other officers that are stating
there was only ever one vile polled and that's where
I came into play, says, Page is nine. Okay.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
So page is nine, which is an alibi for Rogers
Restaurant that mister Wilson was at at one thirty, which
would have.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Been mid crime spree, was removed from his file.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
What was taken from his backpack copy to put into
the file and then subsequently removed.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Now, if I could get more handwriting.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
From the individuals that were involved during this time, we
might be able to identify who was the person responsible
for removing that file. And I can show those particular
papers here shortly. And then the one twenty six, which
is another page which was a Caltran's receipt which is
in the alibi showing that he purchased this particular ticket
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to come home at eleven I want to say it
was eleven thirty PM. That was also removed from the
police file and not provided to the defense during both trials.
So basically, once the backpack had been searched, the items
had been taken out, it was determined that these could
provide him with an alibi. They then subsequently removed them
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from the police file altogether. And that's just scary. So
Detective Michael Yorke contacts the corner at six fifty six
pm on the thirty first, which is the following Sunday,
and tells him to show up in.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
About forty to fifty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
When he gets there, he has to wait an additional
twenty to twenty five minutes to go down to the
basement because the forensic team was not yet finished when
he arrived. And this is from direct testimony from the
actual corner corner's statement that the body was in full
rigor mortis at approximately eight thirty based on his testimony,
and rigamurtis was gone by nine to thirty am the
following Monday morning and typically will last approximately twenty four
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hours as far as I can tell, so eight to
twelve hours till they make it to full rigidity.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
And if she was in full rigor at eight pm
at night, then that meant that her murder had happened
sometime in the early morning hours of Sunday. My client,
mister Wilson, believes that mister Coleman had killed Kim before
he had gotten home, and that he didn't stumble onto
the body until he'd actually made a couple tracks back
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and forth. He had left the house when the seven
eleven got himself some snacks, came back, was on his
way to the bathroom when he passed by the basement
door and saw miss Kim down at the bottom of
the stairs. Quick question, Yeah, who was Wilson's lawyer? I
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don't know that. I never asked that question. I'm going
to think that it was likely a public defender, especially
you know, yeah, if we're talking about a young kid,
what's that hearing?
Speaker 5 (23:04):
He may have been railroading. But I mean that's on
his lawyer as much as anything.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
So no, because the evidence, the exculpatory evidence, like the alibi,
was removed from the file.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
He didn't have access to it. His attorney didn't have.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Access to it. Okay, so that's part of the argument, right.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
So it's now he said, she said he could just
be making up stories without these other pieces, and we're
gonna we're going to show those items here in a
couple seconds. Now, the medical examiner Parves Pacaman testifies rigor mortis,
or stiffness has developed of rigidity in the decedents muscles,
which starts usually after death. We expect to have full
rigidity within the first eight to twelve hours rigidity depends
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on a number of factors. One would be the state
of health of the decedent prior to death, the weight,
whether he or she was thin or obese, the exposure
to ambient temperature. The heat would actually expedite the process,
where the cold would actually delay the development and its disappearance.
Miss Kin's body was in a cool basement, so we
can't anticipate that there's going to be a longer time
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to go through this. But still, if she is in
full rigidity at eight pm, eight thirty pm, then even
at those cooler temperatures, that only backs it up to
probably about the time that mister Wilson believes mister Coleman
actually killed her, which would have been at around three am.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Was mister Wilson, No, mister Coleman ever considered a suspect,
And did you ever read why or how he was cleared?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
He wasn't cleared.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So basically the only thing that it states in the
actual trial transcripts is that the DA stipulates to the
fact that nobody can find him, and that's because he's
left the country. Well, I do have some pieces in
here from the police report, like the evidence logs, which
become very very convoluted as well. I am actually on
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slides right now of my presentation, and this is some
of the evidence that was.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Taken from the backpack.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Basically, what we have here is a note of an
illegal search and seizure. So basically he claims that Michael Yore,
the arresting officer, had searched his backpack even though he
did not give permission for that. To the right here,
we actually see when the research warrant was actually requested
was not until April first. So the fact that we
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have murkings up here saying taken from backpack thirty first
to March nineteen ninety six, wouldn't that allude to the
fact that they searched him illegally.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
If he didn't consent, and he didn't.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Consent, and the police reports it says he strictly did
not consent for them to go into his backpack.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
So basically, this.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Little funding.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
In the backpack, yes, and that's the exculpatory evidence, that's
his alibi basically. So we have a receipt up.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Here on three point thirty nine at eleven thirty three
PM for a ticket from San Francisco one way to
Palau alto below that we have an actual note that
mister Wilson wrote out when he was a Rogers restaurant,
and it says, I found a women's person Rogers restaurant Saturday,
thirteen thirty three thirty nineteen ninety six. I found a
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women's person Rogers restaurant and gave it to the bus
boy who ran out with the purse. But it's hard
to read his writing. He's got a very.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Very few minutes later he returned with purse and gave
it to his wife of restaurant behind the counter. I
also told them my phone number. If they will have
a question to call me. That would mean he would
have witnesses to corroborate that right well, and they did.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Private investigators and the district District Attorney's office sent out
investigators to discuss with the actual owner. Now there were
some key points here.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
The owner absolutely won underd percent remembers this day number one,
because it was their last day in business.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
They shut the doors the following day, so they know.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Now she couldn't say the precise time that mister Wilson
was in her shop, but she did state that this
perset incident absolutely happened. So she is coroborating, but she
cannot give him a timeframe, which allowed the DA to
kind of play around that and state that it could
have been earlier that it was there, that he was there,
and he'd still have had time to actually commit this crime.
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So this particular piece was removed from his backpack as well,
it was copied, it was put into the file, and
then subsequently removed. Did not show up a trial again, though,
seized on the thirty first of March, when their search
warrant isn't even good until April first, So right there,
we have them playing with this individual's rights.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Was there any evidence that was recovered from him that
was used against him now in that.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Urge other than no, not in the search, but in
the blood evidence. They found his blood at the crime scene,
so as if to say he had injured himself in
some way.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And that's when the.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Story gets even a little bit more interesting because he
picks up this ride with this particular taxi cab driver
who's already had a heck of a day. So once
he leaves this Rogers restaurant at one point thirty is
basically his time frame. He states, he walks a couple
blocks and he stops at a payphone.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
He calls the Yellow Cab company to meet him at
his place and pick him up.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
So there are phone calls made in this procession which
also link up, and the Yellow Cab is also capable
of saying, yes, we did receive these calls from mister Wilson,
and it was from a payphone, because if it had
come from a home residence, then we would have been
able to clock the phone number because he is a
continuing client and his phone number would have came up
and they would have known exactly where to go. When
he made the phone call to the Yellow Cab company,
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the dispatcher actually gave the wrong address of the taxi
cab had gone to the wrong location, and by the
time mister Wilson had made it home in approximately one
fifty eight in the afternoon, he returned another call saying, hey,
where's the taxi cab. The dispatcher let them let him
know that they accidentally dispatched to the wrong address. They
would get him over there immediately, so at approximately two
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or four PM, the cab driver shows up picks him up.
At this point in time, he has no idea where
Kim is. He's stating that strange car is in the driveway,
her car has gone, and that he hasn't seen her
pretty much at all. That day, the taxi cab driver
gets into San Francisco, gets lost, can't find the location
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he's supposed to be going to because he's not familiar
with San Francisco, and so mister Wilson tells him, just
take me to the Cow trans station. I'll have my
friends meet me there. When he gets into the cow
trans station, as he's getting out of the vehicle, I'm
guessing that the cab driver was a little frustrated, but
he accidentally slams mister Wilson's hand into the car, which
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then breaks some fingers, rips off a fingernail. He's bleeding profusely.
Now he's got to get himself to the hospital. He
spends the rest of the night in the hospital. He
has all of this as evidence. He is not even
around and he's also freshly bandaged. So there is notations
in the police report, the investigating officer that was looking
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over mister Wilson, you know, notating whether or not he
had any brasions or scratches. He had none physically, and
of course he indicated that there would be blood underneath
his fingernails because he just recently had this accident for
which he has evidence for and he was in the
hospital for he has to prove it. Yes, yes, but
this is why the DA was forced to back up
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the murder time frame from twelve forty eight to one
fifty eight PM, because he had viable alibi for everything thereafter.
If they simply remove the fact that he was at
that restaurant and walked home during the timeframe in which
they claimed she.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Was murdered, Wow, so they just played around with the
time frame.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
Yes, yes, any story about how he got hurt, yep,
all of it, and that injury occurred during the murder.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I didn't really get into that so much. But what
I did take note to is that the investigating officer
did make note that mister Wilson's hand had a fresh
bandage on it, and I would have thought that if
he had had this fresh bandage, so he got this
bandage done between the hours of let's say three o'clock
in the afternoon and midnight while he's at the hospital
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before he comes home, if he had then touched her,
he would have had blood on this bandage, which would
have meant that he'd on become in contact with her
after the bandaging of his hand.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I mean it just I can't even wrap my mind
around how they were able to get him.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
After him and ignoring the other guy.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Because the other guys sconded. Now they don't have a
suspect at all.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
As well, justice, he's got to keep them open mind
that I have been the other guy, and flight is
a circumstantial evidence as to guilt, right.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Well, And here's the thing on when they removed these
items from his backpack on the thirty first, copied it
and put it into his file as if they were
actively investigating him as the culprit. Mister Coleman hadn't absconded yet.
When the blood was removed from the actual evidence locker,
mister Coleman hadn't absconded yet, So it looked to me
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like they were looking to railroad him from the very beginning.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Okay, how soon do they arrest Wilson after the that morning? Wow?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Oh, Sunday morning, Yes.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Sunday morning, on the thirty first, they took him in.
They didn't arrest.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Him, no, No, they just arrested.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Were already assuming it was Wilson.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Right, was it?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Because Coleman is the one who actually called the police.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It may very well have been.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
And he was instructed to do so or prodded to
do so by my client because he was resistant to
do so.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
He wouldn't even go down and help him assess her.
He literally was doing everything he could to stay clear
of it, but did evidently end up actually calling the
police department. And sometimes I mean we see in law
tell me if I'm wrong, Nolan, he who files first
sometimes wins.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Right right, Yeah, it happens a lot of domestic violence too,
right with But it was the house strong that was
used for the call.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Yes, yes, So another report from evidence that collected on
four to one of nineteen ninety six showed that Officer
Kale Gibson states that they assisted detective You're in the
execution of the search warrant executed on four to one
ninety six in her report or his report dated four
one ninety six at three point thirty two, four PM
(34:00):
is when they claim they executed this search. But we
had we saw the handwriting that says taken from the
backpack on three point thirty one. So now we've got
an officer who's kind of playing the game. You know,
we didn't do this search until four to one it
became mandatory. I think that they removed that stuff from
the actual police file simply because it would literally have it,
(34:23):
it wouldn't have been admissible, right, I mean now that
they're in trouble for doing something that they shouldn't have done.
So it makes me think that that illegal search and
seizure preempted the final acts of framing mister Wilson for this.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
What's tearl just because you'd have bad police work. There's
no reason to send that innocent man to prison for murder.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
We know that definitely.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
So in this they stated that they took out US currency,
small changes, key chain and keys, wallet, credit cards, Stanford
University ID cards, health cards, telephone calling cards, suspects, phone
book and address book, computer discs, miscellaneous papers, letters and receipts,
and a blue binder containing miscellaneous papers, receipts.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
And bills.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
So these are basically what they're stating at this particular
point in time, and that was on slide.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Right. It was more exploratory than in priminating, and that's
why it goes missing exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
And then on slide eight. Basically, I showed another police report.
This is from the investigating officer that's actively doing the
search of mister Wilson at the time at the house,
basically before he is arrested. I just wanted to point
out a couple of things that they talked about in here,
because I found them to be very interesting.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Officer G. Brooks put I took two Polaroid spectral head photos,
which I gave to Detective Your and Detective Your is
our officer in question for the framing act, he says.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
I then photographed Wilson with a Pentax Easy seventy thirty
five millimeter camera using a Pentax flash accessory. I took
full body photos, then took close ups of his hands.
I decided not to attempt to remove the bandages and
splint from his right fifth finger little finger, as it
appeared to have been professionally bandaged. I decided to wait
(36:18):
until our work at the police station was done, then
take Wilson to the Sanford Hospital emergency room so staff
there could remove the bandage and rewrap the finger. The
first roll of film, the full torso and hands, was
labeled and placed in evidence.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Next, I attempted to get.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Scraping from under Wilson's fingernails. The nails had already been
trimmed down to the skin. It was difficult to obtain
samples due to the shortness of the nails. However, some
small samples were recovered and placed in individually marked envelopes.
These were later placed in evidence. As I was taking
the samples, Miss Wilson mentioned there would be blood there
(36:55):
on his hands and nails, and he had tried to
help the victim after he had found her. He also
told me he had washed his hands after he had
attempted to help. Either way, there would have been evidence
if there was on this bandage.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Did they take this?
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I mean, if this bandage now contains her blood and
he can prove he's.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Been gone for the last nine hours getting it.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Wrapped at a hospital, they would state that he was
not the one that was there killing her.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
He says.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Next, I use a gunshot residue collection kit. I'm not
sure why she wasn't shot with their gun, right, that's it,
says I visually inspected Wilson's body for scars, tattoos, or
any signs of trauma.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Scratches, bruises, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
I did not see any so here he is ultimately
and basically full on combat with a feisy Asian woman, because,
let me tell you, some of the recollections from her
neighbors and so forth indicates she's a very spunky, get
in your face, climbing on the side of vehicles, screaming
at people as they're trying to pull away from her yard,
(37:58):
like she's she's going to give you a But he
has absolutely nothing, no signs except for this wrapped hand.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
See, I did not see.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Question the background of this other guy that fled. Was
he a Stanford student as well?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I have I have no information on him. I'm sure
I could ask my client. He probably would have some
more information on whose.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, right, But.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
You know, sometimes in these in these positions, these people
roommates are not don't really you know, spend too much
time together. If they're not friends, they're not hanging out,
they're not you know, they're not really knowing too much
about each other. Maybe just the basics like where he
worked or you know, what he does for a living,
if he was a student. But I'm not going to
suggest that he absolutely is going to know this person.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
You know, hands down. What are the races Wilson and
Coleman kind of scream Caucasian.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Both of them.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Well, Coleman Coleman is a stereotypical white name.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
It's not listed on the police report.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Your client is Peter Wilson, right, Yes, you seem to
know not to get off topic, but you seem to know.
Maybe it's because your time being involved with handwriting analysis
and probably different court cases as well, but you seem
to have taken on full investigation on this and done
(39:24):
your homework on all of the stuff that's happening, the
police reports and the vials and everything, the missing vile
and if something ever happens to me, can you jump
on the case please?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Absolutely, And actually I really do appreciate the way he
went about it. Just like when I worked the Zodiac case.
Dennis Kaufman came to me and he said he wanted
me to look at handwriting, but he also wanted me
to view his website and see the other pictorial evidence
and things.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
That he had against Jack Terrence.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
And I told him, until I completed my examination, I
did not want to see any of that. I did
not visit his website or his message board to determine
what other evidence he had. I needed to do this
in an unbiased manner, and I appreciate mister Wilson. Yeah, yes, yes,
and I appreciate that mister Wilson when he engaged my services,
did not lay any of this other stuff on me.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
So he basically asked me to do the handwriting.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
And then after the handwriting, I received a package from
him that included the independent lab that looked at the
DNA that information, and so he kind of piecemealed it
out to me after that, and I got little bits
and little bits, and the more I got interested and
the more I wrote back.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
The more he would send. And I basically have maybe
I mean, and he has to handwrite all of this literally,
he's handwriting it from transcripts from court proceedings from you know,
what had occurred. But I probably have a good couple
hundred pages that he has handwritten from prison to me.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
And when I have a question like okay, so was
your hand injured? What was he talking about?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Then I'd have to wait, you know that two weeks
for a letter to come back. So it's been a
very lengthy process over about two years.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
But I have fight.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
I do believe that I've finally gotten, you know, down
to the bottom of everything that he contends occurred. And
to me, it definitely looks like we have an innocent
man that has been in prison for thirty years. If
I continue on with this particular one.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
We're getting to that.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
So basically, I'm just kind of going over the police
reports and what occurred at the time of them actually
showing up to the residents, as he.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
Didn't see where is he incarcerating.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
A palle olt to police department. I'm guessing at this
point at a po out to jail.
Speaker 5 (41:46):
What prison is he in right now?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Now?
Speaker 3 (41:49):
He's in an actual medical facility in the Stockton area.
They had to transfer him out of prison because he
is failing on health on I believe that he's probably
got some mental health issues going on, and he's not
able to eat when he was in the establishment, So
they have sent him out to a medical facility where
(42:10):
he actually is doing much better right now. I'm very
happy that they were at least able to help him
out with that. See I requested, okay, so he didn't
see any scars, bruises, or abrasions. Once Wilson had removed
his clothes. I requested he comba's pubic region over a
clean towel. Again, why did you do this if you
(42:31):
didn't think she was raped, if you weren't going to run?
They did a literal rape kit on this guy. They
found motile sperm on her, and they didn't do any
testing on it. Forensically, I got the comb and tow
from a sexual assault evidence collection kit. Wilson did as
instructed and also at my request, plucked approximately twenty five
(42:52):
years from his pubic region. These were placed in an
envelope I provided. I also plucked head here from five
areas around his school. A sal live a sample was
taken using a collection device provided in the sexual assault kit.
These items were labeled and placed in evidence. Wilson was
given two sets of disposable jumpsuits, which he put on.
Officer Susan then began rolling Wilson's palm and fingerprints.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
So there, they automatically just went straight at him.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Will they do the same thing to the other guy?
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Again, that's a question I will have to ask mister Wilson.
It says shortly before noon, Technologist mill Smith ID number
one oh six A ride at noon, drew two vials
of blood, so this is the only place you see
two vials. From here on out, all testimony and transcripts
are going to indicate that only one vile of blood
was taken.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
For the typing.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
So he says one for typing and one to test
for alcohol and or other substances. I received the samples
and placed them in the evidence refrigerator, So he's went
straight into the refrigerator and should never have come out
until they went to the lab.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
Was one of the vials ever tested for his blood?
When they used one of them, say they tested it
for alcohol or substance abuse? Did they say that none
was found and that they basically used the entire vile
for that? Is that what they're trying to say?
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Well, that I'm not really sure of. But what I
do know is that we have testimony from the individual
who took all of the forensic evidence to the lab
to be tested, and that officer stated that only one
vial of blood existed. So when they came in to
do their job, which was to get and collect the
(44:36):
forensic evidence and take it to the lab, there was
only one vial. So now we're caught between this guy
says he took two at the residence where the murder occurred.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Le me see Wilson again refused. Oh, and here we
do have in this particular report. So at this point
in time, mister Wilson again refused to give permission to
enter the backpack and asked if he could use other
sources such as the phone book, basically looking to make
his phone call. But all his phone numbers were in
his phone book. They wouldn't even give that to him
because he wouldn't allow them to search his backpack.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
And this is on the thirty first. Now, of course,
this is where we get into.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
On slide nine, we can actually see the entry this
was one of my jobs at hand, which is this
statement here that says removed one vial thirty first of
March ninety six and pertains to the case number. He
asked me to compare this particular handwriting to Michael yor
the arresting officer's handwriting, which we'll get to that handwriting
(45:34):
exam examination here in a second.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
But this is el Dillard.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
This particular notation says that package one brown bag containing
gray briefs collected from Wilson on three thirty one, ninety six,
item number seven on the property sheet by d SUSA
and package number two envelope containing blood sample just one,
so no indication that there is double. And then she's
(46:00):
later testifies and trial that she only had one that
she took to the lab. Property evidence report shows one
violin inventory yet one vile removed by Detective Michael Yure
on three thirty one, So these are two different dates.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
El Dillard actually.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Did this particular report on four one ninety six, so
that's when she took the physical evidence that was taken
from the crime scene to the lab. So we do
have two different dates here, and I didn't have el
Dillard's handwriting to match to this particular notation. But the
good thing was is that it matched mister yours so
well we didn't need anybody else. So next light on
(46:39):
slide number ten basically gives us the map of what
it looks like from where mister Wilson actually was at
Rogers Restaurant basically on the corner of University Avenue.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
And let's see, so at one o five PM, this
is his Now, this is mister Wilson's accounts of that
particular day. At one o five he arrives at Rogers restaurant.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
He eats at one thirty PM, approximately is when he
finds the woman purse.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
He makes the note.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
He leaves the restaurant at approximately one thirty five. At
about one for he calls the Yellow Cab company from
a payphone on your University Avenue. And I've kind of
mapped that out with this second X up here just
down the way from Rogers Restaurant. Let's see, he's asking
(47:29):
to be picked up at his residence by two PM.
At one fifty eight pm, he calls Yellow Cab again,
this time from home to find out that the address
was dispatched incorrectly. At two two pm, Yellow Cab a
ride starts the meter and drives until three forty six pm,
and he ends up at the cows Trans station, where
he ends up with his handslammed in the door at
(47:50):
approximately three point fifty. At four forty pm, he's admitted
to UCSF Medical Center in San Francisco, and at ten
PM he's discharged from the hospital. Eleven thirty three, we
see he purchases the ticket from Caltrans to return to
Palo Alto.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
He says he arrived at the.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
Station at approximately twelve ten am and he arrives at
home at one ten am because it takes oh, I'm sorry,
the ticket is for twelve ten am. He doesn't arrive
home or to the station until one ten am. At
two fifty am he actually arrives home, and then at
three forty five am he heads to the bathroom and
finds Kim and he tells Coleman to call and at
(48:28):
three fifty three, So it took eight minutes for mister
Coleman to actually pick that phone up and make that
phone call.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Damn, yeah, eight minutes.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Eight minutes he's trying to coax this guy into calling
the police. Testimony that we had on behalf of mister
Wilson was the owners of the restaurant, as we discussed
owners at the dispatcher of the Yellow cab company, and
the actual cab driver all testified on his behalf as
to what he was saying was true. Mister Bertram Glass
(49:01):
is actually the cab driver, and he actually filed an
incident report of the hand being slammed in the door,
so we know that that did not happen at the
house in you know, the heat of the moment type thing.
Medical personnel testified to his hand and the time in
the hospital. Miss Kim's family testified that mister Wilson's defense
that Miss Kim had not dated anyone during that timeframe
(49:22):
and was not sexually active to their knowledge, the fact
that the leaf from the basement floor was stuck to
Miss Kim's buttocks under her underwear and pants. So now
we've got even more pieces of clothing that's been pulled
down in order for that leaf to actually get there.
Rigor mortis max. Thirty six hours. Kim's was done by
nine to thirty am on four one ninety six, which
(49:45):
means she was killed after nine pm on Saturday evening, and.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Mister Wilson could not He wasn't home. He was simply
at hospital.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Okay, Oh, I'm was so into that myself rewatching it.
I just thoroughly and am excited and looking forward to
this writ of habeas corpus for mister Wilson.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
We're going to continue with the balance of this.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Actual presentation and podcast with mister David Villa on next Friday.
We'll finish off the last twenty minutes or so, and
then my goal will be to answer all the questions
that I could not answer at that time, So I
want everybody to enjoy your weekend, have a great week
and we will see you next Friday.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
With the balance of this presentation, thank you,
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