Hollywood Weekly Ep. 2: Side Piece Shows and Nolan Movie Draft

This week, Jackson Felts, Christopher Kidd, and Anderson Hirst discuss what they are watching right now, having side piece shows for their main content, one new trailer, and a piece of breaking news that helped inspire a draft of the best Christopher Nolan movies of all time.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
That was an idea, felt like I was gonna spak you.
I'm not sure what to do.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
With my hand.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
You have part of my attention, you have the minimum amount.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
What name?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Who are you steal?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Some men just want to watch the world bun.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Let's see you drinking one?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Is that because you think you're fat?

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Let's rock.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Let's rock today.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Well they didn't fire us, and yet they didn't. They
didn't tell us to stop because we nearly swore. We
didn't swear, So I guess we can. We can keep
doing this little podcast thing. They didn't apparently listen to
how horny Chris was in the first week, So I guess,
I guess we're I mean, you wrote up you brought
up the video of Jennifer Lawrence, and uh, I guess

(00:49):
that didn't anger the The people who watch what we're
searching for on the internet here, they enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
They said, thank you for that tip, Chris. We enjoyed
that film.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Apparently, Jackson Phelts Anderson Christopher Kidd, we are three sports
radio producers getting to talk about something non sports for
the first time in our lives. This is Hollywood Weekly,
a podcast by three thirty something guys here in Seattle
talking about everything movies and TV, and there is a
lot to discuss here in the second ever edition of

(01:19):
this show.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
We welcome you in.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
For those who are joining us for the first time,
we are now live on iHeartRadio. You can download the
iHeart Radio app. I believe We're also on Amazon and
we're gonna soon be on Apple Podcasts as well.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
So we are.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
We think we're on Spotify. We're on everything but iHeartRadio
for sure. And this is kind of our little project
that we have long at our desks talked movies and TV,
but we decided let's actually sit in front of microphones
and do what we do off air, just with a
little bit less swearing or no swearing. Who knows, if
we go along and we can do it, I see.

(01:55):
I also think, like, if we're like forty five minutes
into the podcast, what are the chances the boss is
actually listening that deep into.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
The post zero at that point? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
I think I think at that point we can almost,
you know, say that all right, We're that to you anyway.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
We always go over a few things. We always talk
about what's going on in the news, trailers. We'll get
to that a little bit later on. We're going to
do a special thing that relates to Actually it sort
of relates. But ANDERS had a great idea before the
news even came out about Christopher Nolan. We'll get it
to this special Christopher Nolan news in a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
It was an idea. You had, an idea before the
news even came out. I did.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Yeah, So I there's a lot of these kind of
concepts where you know, I kind of go into these
rabbit holes online about oh, your favorite this type of thing,
your favorite you know, Star Wars movie or your favorite
Pixar movie, and then like there's of course a bunch
of discourse involved. So I thought, even before the news
came out about Christopher Nolan that we should do a
little a little you had the idea of a draft.

(02:58):
I said, we should do like a thanking of Christopher
Nolan movies. But I love the draft, So we're doing
that today. I'm really excited.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Christopher Nolan movie drafts. Yes.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I was on vacation in San Francisco with some family
over the weekend. We got into a heated debate about Oppenheimer.
I'm not gonna tip my hand.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
About how I feel about Oppenheim.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
But it was a heated conversation, and then you got
a heated conversation with like.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Your one of your wife's family members.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Oh yeah, it's one of those things where you kind
of got a tiptoe around it.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
But at the same.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Time, I'm far enough. I'm eight years deep into my marriage. Now,
We're no tiptoeing. You're getting my full, honest opinion. And
if we're gonna get into it, we're gonna get into it.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Especially about movies. It's like it's exactly so arbitrary.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, so listen, movies and trailers will give you a
recommendation for what we're watching and what we think you
should watch, but we always start off with what we
are watching right now.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I was on vacation for most of the last week.
I didn't get to watch too much other than you know,
my weekly Survivor the New Abbot Elementary, which I think
is off to a great start here with its its
season debut. Survivors still chugging along. But uh, there's one
other thing that I'll get to in a little bit.
I'll start with you, guys, what are you watching here
this week? Christopher, I'll start with you. What's changed? We're

(04:12):
still flying through Black sales Man, how far are you?
And now I am season three episodes.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Walking through it? My god, it's getting better and better?
Do I say it started like ten days ago? It's
that I enjoy it that much.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
There was a couple of nights where I watched three
or four episodes midnight.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
I'm like, I can get one more in.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Okay, So you've said something there that I want to
ask you about. Because he says it's getting better and better,
I that first season can't be topped in my book.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
I love the whole show, don't get me wrong, the
best season in TV history. And Layman turn.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
There because it is, I'm more intrigued.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah this happened, And well what's
going to be next?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Let me let me jump in, because did you start
at Jackson? I did last night, Sunday night.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
We started it.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
We got in in the afternoon with our fet my
wife and I and and listen, she is a she's
a Game of Thrones fan. I mean, listen, I think
this applies. I think very accurately when we talk about,
you know, these shows and how we feel about them.
I have Game of Thrones as my twentieth ranked show
of all time twenty and that's just me personally. I
think Game of Thrones and I have one hundred and

(05:18):
nine shows ranked, and I have it at twenty. It's
it's it's in the upper quintuple quin quinn. That's definitely
doing That's definitely not the right word. But listen, it's
it's top twenty right now. And I think it's a
great show. I think that there's many things obviously last
season that could make it much better. Right, So she
is a fan. I'm a good sized fan. And we've

(05:41):
done the two first two episodes of Black Sales last night,
and I mean, I bring this up now.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
I was gonna wait on this, be Christins. You brought
up because I don't. I don't want to be spoiled
on anything. Because I'm saying this right now, the first
two episodes and how much I've bought in in the
first two episodes is more than I bought into Game
of Thrones.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Whoa all in the first season?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Okay, And listen, I know you cut off ned star
spoiler alert for like ten years ago, more than fifteen
that stars head gets cut off, right, So that bought
me in a lot Black Sales. I am now one
hundred and ten per what a recommendation.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Anderson, thank you, thank you. Holy smokes, what a show
this is.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
I gotta give credit to my dad because he's the
one who originally said it to me. And I'm like, oh, yeah,
I don't know. I'm not really into the Pirates that much.
I had just started Game of Thrones. I was laid
on that as well, but I've full bought into that.
He's like, yeah, if you like Game of Thrones, you'll
love Black Sales. And he always has this joke with
me and he's like raise the Black, Raise the Black,
and it's like, okay, oh so cool. But he's like

(06:43):
super into it and he likes it even more than
Game of Thrones. And he was an og Game of
Thrones guy. So I finally watched it with him and
I I haven't actually watched it since it finished, so
I need to. I need to get back on that. Audily,
you should do it. I honestly should. I might think
about rewatching it. So, yeah, it's it's a great show.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, I'm enjoying it, and the storyline just keeps getting
better just and you think, oh, they ran out of something.
I got to there, mister Kiddleeve. Just for this reason, right,
so far, okay, who's your fair character?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Who's in?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
See?

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Okay, there's an this an interesting dynamic.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
And this is why I like it more than Game
of Thrones so far, just two episodes in, because what
Game of Thrones. Obviously it's such a high barrier to
entry right off the bat, because there's all these books
and it gives such a base and you know, if
you read it you have a much wider context.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
You have to be like a lower nuts. Yeah, I
feel a little bit with this.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
It's an element where these are halfway real characters and
halfway characters who have been made up, but they've been
made up over the course of you know, generations of writing.
You know, long John Silver, he is such a Johnny
Depp Pirates of the Caribbean Captain Jack Sparrow inspired character

(07:58):
in the writing. But then you think, no, it's it's
Pirates of the Caribbean that got inspired by this character
in the original writing decades ago.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
So it goes the other way around.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
So he comes off like a you know barado of
a Jack sparrow gonna do the wild, weird things. But
it's the ability to then look up and say, oh,
Charles Vain it was was he a real pilot? Oh
my god, he was a real pirate. He actually did
these things. And like I've already been spoiled on a
couple of things by just wiki eating actual pirates that
are part of this actual show, which actually took place.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
In Nasau, Bahamas.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
All of this the the actual, real life, historical context
of this.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Don't spoil me, Christopher.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
I just I love how it was the element to
things in this show actually freaking happen.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
So you know how when you look a show up
on Google, it says like the genre of it, what
would you say?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
The genre of this show is? What was Game of Throne? Genre? Fantasy? Oh?

Speaker 3 (09:00):
I don't know, well, and it's it's like political intrigue
of pirates.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
I'm looking at it right now, and it says history
because it's a historical.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
It's based on historical facts.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
I guess. But the main character isn't a real person.
That's the one thing I would.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Say that was the bummer and I looked him up.
N't even real, But anybody else is real but okay, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Just think it's such a well written show. Low key
the intro, the show intro.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I mean I mean, like that's that's up there with
like peacemaker type stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
I am so sorry. I love the show so much
that I just skipped the intro and get right to it.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
I mean, that's normal, that's fine, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I mean hear the music. Sorry, I just want
to get to me.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
I did that with like sitcoms, but if for intense
shows like this, I watched the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
I think it was also for at least me and
my wife, something that we needed, because we finished Madmen
season three and it was it was a dramatic heart pay.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
They finished the season by going over the murder of JFK.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
And that left an interest taste in our mouths that
were like, all right, we're let's just let's just step
away from mad Men for a bit. And this is
such it's something that you can sink your teeth into.
But I mean, I don't know, Chris, so you're your
three seasons deep at this point. It just feels like
something that the teeth stays sunk into for a while.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Oh yeah, and that's why I keep binging and watching
because I want to see what happens next. I want
to see more. I want to see how the story develops.
I want to see how this character gets out of
this pickle, because boy, are you in one? Like that's
all interesting to me? And yeah, it just they find
new ways to captivate me in each episode. And by

(10:37):
the way, I'm in season four, season three, and I'm
looking forward to already. Oh, I'm thinking three episodes ahead.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
There's like one more season. Lie, I'm starting to I know,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I'm starting to think about, Okay, what season four are
going to look like now that I have these characters
in and these characters have exited, so now I'm trying to, Okay, well,
how is this going to work out? So it's been
me playing games in my head of figuring out what
happens next and then I'm seeing if it takes place.
But the show is the storytelling sex, violence. Everything in
this show is reality and what Pirates probably went through unfortunately,

(11:09):
which is crazy to think about.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
But because you mentioned and Andrews, you mentioned this last week
that the sex part of it, and I think Game
of Thrones sometimes had sexual scenes just for sexual reasons, right,
and you would just you'd show a penis just to
show up.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
And also it's just kind of the writing style the
title of this episode, well, it's also kind of the
writing style of.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
What's his name, George R. R. Martin. He involves a lot
of sexual situations in his writing.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Black Sales, and I it was an two episodes in
so we can confirm this. It feels it's sexual situations
that that are only because the scene demands exactly.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah, I think it's kind of the opposite, where like
as we were mentioning with this is kind of actually
what happened in history, Like it's more about what happens
around it more than like actually focusing on that, you
know what I mean? And I agree with you. I
think game throws can be like zoned in on that
and like, oh my god, two guys whoa big deal?
Like you gotta watch it for you little detail like
So it's just it's not like that. It's more just

(12:05):
like how everyone around it reacts.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
It makes sense.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I was on a ship for I don't know however long.
I'm a cook. Well you're a cook. We got booty
for you. What do you say? Go into the room
Captain black Beards waiting for you.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Man, Oh that scene.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
That scene was spectacular. I nearly got up off my
chair and gave a round of applause for that, for the.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
You know that was him.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
No, I thought I was expecting actual black Beer because
I was like, Oh my gosh, this is gonna be
the actual pirate.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Were introducing I'm an episode in they already introducing black.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Beard, Like, what in the world is going on? Then
the reveal, Wow, so good? So that was John Silver, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Man, lucky son of a gun, you know, a real cook.
I mean he might have been short time Silver in
that scene though.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
He ain't long. You ain't lying about that? Can we
wend the tape there?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
But so that's that's Frankly, all we really watched was
was Survivor.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Albert like it. She likes my wife, she likes it.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
I think that for her it's a different way, different
than Game of Thrones because she's fantasy is kind of
just not her cards. She loves the whole Pirates scene,
Pirates of the Caribbean for her, like she'll play the
theme while getting ready for work because she just she
loves Pirates of the Caribbean whenever you go to Disneyland.
It's sort of like that is one of the like

(13:23):
five we must do. I don't care how long how
long the wait is for this ride. We must do Pirates.
So so for her it's she's just over on the
moon about it. And you know, I mean, what is this.
It's five twenty five on Monday the fourteenth, right now.
I'll be home at seven in a couple hours. It's
going to like the moment it's it's get home. Hey,

(13:44):
I know you haven't eaten yet. Can you just bring
the food into the room so you can eat it while.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
We watch this, which, by the way, I hate doing what.
I hate eating the dinner while watching It's must have my.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Dinners where you're eating Christopher instance, when I'm eating a salad,
it's very hard to eat a salad and watch the
show because you have to look.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
You have to look down to get the solid. You
can't just drop the chicken on yourself. This is me.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
I am a multitasker, and we've talked about this. I
like doing multiple things at once when I Sometimes when
I watch a show, I'm playing a video game at
the same time.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
I can't do it. Oh, that's blasphemy.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
I can't watching. I can't focus on that. I have
to see we Usually if it's an intense show, this.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Elite at doing that.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Oh yeah, Chris, I'll have like Madden on the background
playing that and then Game of Thrones what. Yeah, I
need to be able to focus on what's going on,
so I could tell someone what happens.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
You're going to hear the music. You got to hear
the rule to focus on all these things. Usually, by
the way, who.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
I don't know who commut I don't either have to
look it up spectactic. It's really good.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
Yeah, it feels, like you said, authentic and that's one
of the great things about it. It feels like you're kind
of being transported into that time and space. So, uh,
that's one of the things I love about it. But yeah,
I know, I now, you guys are making me want
to rewatch it all.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Let's get into what you've been watching. What have you
been watching?

Speaker 4 (14:53):
I actually just started thanks to Chris, so I gave
him that recommendation for black sales. Chris recommended to me
on episode one that I watch Twilight of the Gods,
and I started the first two episodes last night. I'm
a big fan. I like it mainly the animation style.
I'm all in on that. If anyone here that's listening
as a Star Wars fan, not Clone Wars, the newest

(15:14):
one Star Wars. I think it's specifically called the Clone Wars,
and then you can just decipher it by putting two
thousand and two after that. It's the animated show that
came out right after episode two, before episode three came out,
specifically like kind of encapsulating the Clone Wars.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
It's more like.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Kind of gruesome for a Star Wars show. It's really
really good. Like the Jedi do way more like badass stuff.
It's just like but it's all in the animation style,
and this show reminds me of that, like very very much.
So I'm a big fan of it so far. I'm
only two episodes in. They're pretty short episodes too, but
I'm a big fan so far. You're welcome, Thank you, Chris.
I just appreciate it. I was like, you like lannime

(15:58):
or a little cartoonish.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, I'm all in.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, Tile of the Gods and it only gets better
literally really, oh god?

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yes, Okay, how many seasons are there haven't even looked. Well,
it's only one. It just dropped. This is the first
season of it.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Okay, so I'm a fan of anyone who is interested
in that kind of stuff. Norse Gods, animation, Zack Snyder,
check it.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Out, all right, Chris, go you have anything? You obviously
watched two seasons in the course of seven days. So
are you watching literally anything else?

Speaker 2 (16:27):
I'm trying to remember now. You caught me off guard
because I love Black Sales obviously, and I have seen
Trial of the Gods. Come back to me. I'll probably interrupt.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Because I think it goes to the conversation of how
many do you watch it once?

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Right, Because that's the thing, watch.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
A lot of Like my fiance fiance and I we
have multiple shows like BT plus we watch shows on there.
I watch a lot of TV when I don't have
anything to do, which is a lot on the weekends
or for instance, I did a lot of the work
at the job today at the station, so I can
go home now and watch almost anything.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Because that's the thing, you know.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Sometimes I feel like a show with Black Sales too,
where it's just there's so much going on, it's so
intense you almost you do want to sink your teeth in,
but sometimes you do need just a breather. Yeah, and
that's why we have like a couple of reality shows where, like,
you know, like I will say, tonight, we'll watch a
couple episodes of Black Sales that eat up two hours
and then, uh, you know, I think for me, Uh,

(17:20):
there's there's one show's the thing I talked about it
last week, The Summit.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
It's a reality show on CBS.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
They basically make, you know, people, a giant group of people,
half of whom are not physically fit very much at all,
hike up a giant hill for two straight weeks and.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
It's sort of it.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Just listen, it's gonna make you laugh, it's gonna make
you chuckle, It's it's gonna take you into a different
world than Black Sales, and it's just nice to like
let yourself, let your mind breathe a minute from such
an intense show. We always got to have one definitely
where it is just your moment to breathe.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I mean that so for Chris doesn't sound you even need.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
That, you know, I just go all in and then
starting five I'm sure you guys might have heard it
it's an all access look at five NBA players Jason Tatum, Lebron,
James Demacus, a bonus, Anthony Edwards and one's the first rate.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Oh Jimmy, Yeah, Jimmy Butler. So it's like a documentary.
So you remember Receiver. We all watch Receiver.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yes, So this is the NBA version of that looking
at these five supercess I enjoy it. You get a
look at the family dynamic of some of these players,
because all you really get whether you're a soccer fan, baseball,
whatever fan, you are a sport, you don't really get
to see them outside of that unless you have a relationship.
I know, Jackson, you cover the sounders a lot. You
have probably decent relationship with some of the players because

(18:36):
you had them on You had them.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
On your show, your broadcast.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Outside of that, if you don't have that access, you're
kind of just like, oh, I see them when they play.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
This now gives you.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
A look at the family dynamic, how they get along
with friends, family, all of that.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
It's really cool.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
It's really well done. I give them a solid grade
for it so far. It's I'm on episode five. Me
and my fiance watched four episodes in the one night
and we're impressed. Took a breather because they're like, well,
it's NBA going on right now. Yeah, but but it's
a breather, right, it's a breather. And it was like
Hard Knocks.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Oh, huge fan of Hard Knocks. I watched. No, I
haven't done it since what was it the Jets. I
want to.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Say Roberts when he got hired and all that, or
before then, might.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Have been before it's been It's been a long time
since I watched hard I don't like it. The only
reason I watched Hard Knocks now is just to get
like audio clips for the sports. But like you know,
at this point, we're just we're so long into Hard Knocks.
Teams are so so careful about what they actually show.
I don't know even what you get out of it anymore.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
I just don't care enough about that stuff.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
If Okay, I will say, if it was someone that, like,
I'm really interested, Like if it was the Seahawks, we're
in Seattle, I would be a lot more interested in it.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Like there's a version of Hard Knocks.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
That was what behind the scenes during the Argentina's run
during the World Cup twenty twenty two, and showed me
that that was really really cool because I'm I watch
that really closely. I had a really good time following
that team and knowing all of the players' personalities and
everything and how they interact with each other is pretty
dang cool. But yeah, no, I was just curious, like, Chris,

(20:11):
what do you kind of look for when you watch
something like that, because I think that's kind of a
version of your reality TV show that you're saying. It's
it's kind of a break from all. One of my
favorite players to watch play basketball is Lebron. Okay, I
don't know Lebron outside of Hoop. I watched podcasts on
him about him. He's on podcasts his own this. Now
you get to go inside the crib. You need to

(20:32):
see his wife, his kids, the dynamic of how they
are all family. You find out more information about his
son going into cardiac arrest, Bronnie James, and how that
affected the family. Because for all of us outsiders, we're
just like, oh, Brinnie went to kardak your worst.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
That sucks. Hope he gets better.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Now they bring the parents into it and they're like,
oh my god, like my son almost dies.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
So there's two questions to the first question is to
any of you, I doubt you, but your wives or
do they watch Real Housewives type stuff?

Speaker 2 (21:02):
So yeah, unfortunately my fiance does. She watches unfortunately, well,
she watches like the drama.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yes, unfortunately watches.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
She watches what's it called Love and hip Hop, which
is just negative energy for an hour drama, fake news,
girls yelling at each other, that's it. And I'm just
like I used to watch it because it was entertaining
Augustine to watch any of this.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
No, she doesn't do all the reality stuff like you do.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
But but I will say, your pants there is like
she's from Argentina, but she watches a lot of Latin shows.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
So in Spanish.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Those go like like far into the drama, like super
far into the drama. There's this Spanish show it's uh
Cable Girls or in Spanish Last chicastall cobblet that like
I swear to God, like it's it's really good because
it entices you and makes you.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
It's like really good. It's one of the highest rated
shows ever.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
But it's like say what you were just describing, like
bad thing after bad thing after bad thing happening. It's
about Spanish girls during the Spanish.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Civil War nineteen twenties.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Yeah, yeah, but it's like all about them kind of
you know, getting through in Spain where women didn't have
very many rights, and then there was just this group
of four women that always work together, but always bad
things just kept happening to them, and then trying to
figure it's a really good show. It's a really really
good show. But it was one of those where, like
I could it was almost too much for me, Like
something big and like bad happened every single episode, and

(22:28):
I'm just like, does anything ever good happen? I need
some real leief from this.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
It's something with Real Housewives where it's just like it's
all it is drama, drama, drama, drama, drama, and it's
manufactured in this really right, and this is real. So
Chris going back to like the the NBA show, is
it the manufactured drama of that or is it just
kind of a look into their lives?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Look into their lives and unfortunate drama would happen with
Brownie because no one suspected that.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
But it's not manufactured, No, no, no, this is real life.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Like you get to see Jimmy Butler waking up in Miami,
no shirt on yeap seventy five degrees, making eggs, having
his fifth cup of coffee because he needs that to
get energized. Him coming out to the season where he
was punk rock. How he set up and how that
came about. I don't know if you saw the image
he was. He went full punk rock. He had his
hair permed and laid, he had lip rings and nose ring.

(23:14):
He just went full on emo. And then he talked
about why he went emo. Well, his nanny played a
song for him and he was like it was Nirvana something,
and he.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Was like, I like that.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
You know what for the NBA season this year, I'm
gonna go emo.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
And if only we had a team, he would have
been like, all right, I'm moving to Seattle.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
So and then it makes you wonder, damn, what if
Seattle had a team, Because you're getting to look at
all these players, these five players, and it's really cool.
You just get a different side of them outside of
I only see you when you play basketball, which I get.
I am a fan of basketball. I enjoy watching these
talented young men do what they do. I go to
games at least once a year so seeing a little

(23:54):
bit of their life outside of Hoop's pretty cool. They
allowed us that introduction, and I think it's an opportunity
for another wave of athletes to get that same love
when the years come with it, be soccer, baseball, hockey.
This just says, Okay, maybe we can go into the
lives of these superstars and see how that goes, and
we put it on Netflix or HBO. So with the

(24:15):
NFL starting and doing it, I think that was huge
with quarterback. I think that came out what in twenty
twenty two, right, yeah, your receiver came out for the
last season. And now the NBA is like, you know what,
that's pretty cool. So I think this is an opportunity.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Now what network. It's on Netflix?

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, so that you're interested, you can check that out
see if you're interested.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
So, yeah, that's your way of kind of you know,
decompressing or taking a break. As Jackson would say, my
way is sitcoms. So I want to make this a
separate episodes. I've already kind of devised in my head,
like different conversations we can have in the future.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
But for me, it's Friends. I'm a huge Friends fan.
That is going to take an episode to talk about that.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
I mean, I'm thinking just a little tease. What we
can do is do like our favorite sitcoms, so you
can add like rewatchable comms, So like Friends, Seinfeld, The Office,
how about your Mother?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Like all the all the color that I'm not gonna send.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
I'm not gonna say. I want that to be a
conversation for the future. But in terms of just me,
I'm a Friends fan. I've I've rewatched it probably at
least ten times. That's one of those where you know,
me and my wife are sitting down for dinner and like, hey,
you want to watch Friends while we while we eat dinner.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
It's yeah, just put it on the back exactly.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
But we still like watch it like attentively because we like,
I laugh at all the jokes every single time. I
love all the characters. Yeah, so that's my kind of
break show in between everything else. You guys, it's more
than Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
I think we have the We all have those break shows,
and I think that's important to have when you have
a show like Black Sales that is just so intense
on so many levels. Maybe we've already done our recommendations,
but I mean the case Cable girls. I mean, yeah,
that seemed very very good. So that might be a
low key secondary recommendation. Knows what's your m's your main record,
my main recommendation. I am a huge fan, like I

(25:57):
mentioned this earlier, but I'm a big Star Wars guy.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Not I actually at the Mandalorian. It's a lot of hype.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
I'm not a huge fan of The Mandalorian, but I
watched this as it came out, not being super excited
for it, but then it became one of my favorite
things in Star Wars. And it's and Or season two
is coming out soon. I just think it's it's what
Star Wars is really missing nowadays. They try and get
to I don't even I don't want to say political,

(26:25):
but they just try and fill boxes.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, it's a teen it's a teen angst. I mean,
Acolyte was a teen angst show.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
I mean, and there's a lot of just where they
try to fill boxes and it's a lot of fan service.
But this isn't fan service. It's just a very grounded
Star Wars show. But it kind of what it originally
was meant for. It was about kind of rejecting imperialism
and all that stuff. So that's that's it's and it's
really good. There's a lot of parallels to everyday life
for many people nowadays. It's just really, really really good.

(26:54):
I highly recommend it for anyone who's into that kind of.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Number fourteen show of all time. One season in right
now and I have it on the rise. I think
it's above Parks and rec and the Bear. For me.
Season one I thought was the best thing Star Wars
has ever done. Yeah, I think, and then like a
new Hope, And I know, like obviously episode was a five.

(27:17):
I guess ever Empire people will be angry at me,
but I think and Or is the absolute peak. And
I mean I think I think the non spoilery thing
we can tell people is it is how the rebellion
came to be?

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Absolutely why? Why?

Speaker 3 (27:32):
And how was there a rebellion in the first place?
This is how and why?

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, and spectacular for anyone who's seen Disney Plus. By
the way, Disney that's on Disney Plus for sure. For
anyone who's seen how abo's the movie that, it's Oh
we Rogue one, Yeah, Rogue one. Anyone has seen Rogue one.
It's the main character is the same guy, and it's
a prequel to that, so you kind of see that
building up to it, and like you said, it's how

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the rebellion started.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Christopher recommendation.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Maybe you guys have seen this show. It's a series.
Now start off with the Haunting of Hillhouse. I've heard it, Jackson,
have you? Oh my goodness, so a horror fan in that?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Maybe I'm okay. So this is not as.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Much as a horror but it definitely has a theme
of scary situations. But it's basically based off a novel
that it's terrifying, I guess you could say. But basically,
a family moves into a nice mansion and there's more
to it than meets the haunted, not in the way

(28:39):
that you're thinking believe it or not, which is crazy
to say.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
You're trying not to give it away. I like this, yes,
but it's it's definitely really good.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
And then it follows up with the Haunting of Blind Manner.
Now it takes place in similar similar in regards to
a big mansion, but in this one there are so
many different care and now they're in the fold and
now it's you're like, is.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
This tie into what we just watched?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Not really, but it has the same cast of characters
with a different storyline, and it's a look into this
rich family that hires a nanny to watch the kids,
and boy does it take a twist.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Okay, So it's.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
I'm not gonna sit up there and say it's not scary,
but at the same time, it's not scary to what
you're thinking, if that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
When we're seventeen days away from Halloween, so this is
perfect time for this kind of recommendation.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
But I would check it out.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
There are ten episodes, so the Haunting of Blind Manner
will probably have you boohooing if you finish it. Network
Netflix as well, so you're a Netflix guys. Yeah, the
Haunting of Hill House and the Haunting of Blind Man
or Black Man or had your boy you know, wiping
you know, tears from his eyes at the end because
I was really yeah again, it's not it's more so

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well that's deep, okay, a little chilly there, but when
it's all said and done, makes you think, makes you
think it's not a I can't sleep for the next
three days because that's that villain or that whatever it
was scared the hell out of me.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
It has those in.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
There, don't get any wrong, but and the grand scheme
of things, you realize why that became a villain, why
this happened the way it did, and it puts a
spin on it. And those two series we were really good.
The first one was really good. I didn't have your
boy teary eye, but it had me going like, damn, that's.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Just so unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Let me ask this because this goes off to the
point of distraction shows and just kind of side piece,
just side I guess for lack of a better term,
it's your side piece show, right, And if if Black
Sales is your main girl, and if that is, if
that if that intensity is super super high, if Black
Sales intensity is say like at a eight or nine
right now, is the intensity of this these haunting shows

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to the level where it's it's as high or is
it lower to the point of it can be your
side piece?

Speaker 2 (30:56):
So the crazy thing is you watch this, you're gonna
you're going to be impressed. So this came out the
Haunting Fieldhouse came on twenty eighteen. So this is not
a side piece. This is something that I saw and
just remembered how good it was and was like, oh,
I gotta tell these guys about it, they would probably
enjoy it. Now it's a little older obviously, that's what
six seven years ago, so it's not current, but the

(31:18):
Haunting of Blind Manner, I want to say twenty twenty two,
twenty twenty so during COVID, so I was able to
binge that in my fiance she's not a big horror
film chick at all. She can't she can't do it
like I get it. So I was just binging it.
I finished it in like three days, like I was encapsulated.
And then they followed up with a third and final series.
It's again it's not tied to it, but it was

(31:41):
the Fall of the Usher, and it's a completely different outlook.
Like a rich family. Bad things start to happen to
every single person in the family. Are they cussed or
is it something else going on? And it's those three
series really just put a choke.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Well, the emotional aspect that you're selling here where it
can get you emotional, that's the most intriguing part about that.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
And that's why I.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Think you guys would enjoy it, because yeah, there's a
couple like oh that got me, But after a while
you're like, well, why, what's happening? Why it's not it's
not a think you know, Michael Myers or I'm trying
to think of a scary like a demon possession type film.
It's more so, Yes, it's more so. Huh why Okay? Okay, well,

(32:23):
protecting the family? What how I did not see that coming? Okay,
that's how it is. Oh like, all right, honey, I
need some tissue right now.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Why.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
I know it's tough, but look here, honey. It got
me at the end. It got me, like I'm I'm
getting chills thinking of season or The Haunting, the Haunting
of Black Manner. It's the last two episodes. Like, I
think you both would enjoy it. It's just it's not
as fast paced as you're used to. There's more of

(32:55):
a story to it. But when it gets rolling, you're
eating popcorn and it's yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Well for my recommendation. You know, we're thirty minutes in here,
and we're trying to make these roughly an hour. I
know our Nolan draft will take you know, a good
few minutes. Our news in our trailer section, there's not
too many new trailers, so I knew we had a
little extra time here so I wanted to kind of
get into this conversation. Okay, because for me, it's my
number one show on my list and it's a show
that I'm working through right now. I watch it every

(33:23):
morning while I take an hour to work out, and
I binged it on the flights for vacation, and I
think it's it's because it's back on Netflix and it's
right now, like it's a top Netflix show of people
that are watching it, people are getting into the show
for the first time.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
There's like a.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
TikTok trend of young kids actually reacting to the show
for the first time and wondering like where was this,
and well was because it came out twenty years ago
and it is the actual twenty year anniversary of when
this show first came out. It's my favorite show on
TV history, and it's time we had a conversation about it.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Okay, That show is Lost. Yes, Lost for.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Me is a spectac tacular show and I am now
just finished with the third season during my trip in
the flights, and there's a lot of debate around Lost,
and understandably so, because the creators, you know, Carlton Cruz
and the whole group there, they said, listen, we understand
where we're going from the start. We have an entire plan,

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and that very much clearly is not actually the case.
They had to kind of make an adjustment plan after
season three where they said, Okay, actually we are gonna
only make this six seasons and YadA, YadA, YadA, and
they had to kind of change the story a little bit.
So things understandably changed on the fly. There were things added,
there were things removed, there were things altered from may
what made in the original plan. But the important thing

(34:43):
I think to know about Lost is the fact that
they were not dead the entire time. And everybody always
says Lost didn't matter because they were dead the entire time,
and it's just absolutely not accurate. So that's the first
thing I would say to folks who are thinking about
get into doing Lost for the first time, and I
would say, it's much better to binge the show than

(35:06):
it was when it originally aired. And it gets a
bad rap because when people watched it the first time,
they had to watch it on a week to week basis,
and you didn't get the playoffs very quickly, and it
did feel like, come on, like, can we just.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Get to it already to the point, but in the binging.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Era where you can watch it in a go go
go basis, the payoffs come at a great pace. And
if you also then just use the internet and I
love the Reddit are slash Lost will explain certain things
of well, what's actually happening? They're not dead, but then
what is actually happening. There's religious undertones, there's philosophical undertones.

(35:41):
There's the element of science versus faith and how they collide,
and you know, how people can think about life and
interpret life. And if you just kind of take a
few moments around certain points to think about what are
they actually trying to say and do here, it becomes
an extremely deep show that can hit on a lot
of different emotional levels. I've never cried harder at a

(36:02):
show than I've cried at the end of Lost, really,
at the very very end of the whole he watched
the officiog.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
I wouldn't even call it.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
On epilogue though, I would call it just you know,
it's it's just it's the next stage, but it's not
as part of the actual show.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
You have to look it up. I know you do.
I don't even know is it called an epilogue.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Is it actually officially called regardless, I mean, it's it's
the Next Man, It's the Man in Charge, is what
it's called. I don't want to give away that at all.
Even just saying the title might give it a little
bit away, but still I'm not going to get into that.
I just think from minute one to the final minute
of the final episode, it is so briefly flawed, but

(36:42):
you can overlook those flaws because of the tremendous job
it does. And Michael Giacchino is, for my money, the
best composer in the world. Sorry Hans Zimmer and his
score for Lost is I think the best single score
of any movie and TV show done of all time.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Hits the emotional notes when you absolutely need it to.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
I know it's a debate, I know we can get
into it, but I think that Lost is the messages.
It sends, the characters, It develops the story, it takes
you on. It may, you know, go this way and
go that way, and zig and zag and YadA YadA.
But I think they they they they nail the landing,
they lay they land the plane ironically better than I

(37:25):
think any other show. If you just do the research
and understand what they're trying to do in the end.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I have to go back and watch it because I
don't remember much about it. I did watch it all.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
It was very good.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
I enjoyed it, but it was the ending that probably
got me that I'm thinking, like, man, what the they
did that?

Speaker 1 (37:42):
What the hell?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
So I probably have to go back and watching how
many seasons was it?

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Six seasons?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
But I will say two of the seasons are very
short now to now most of the seasons are very long,
twenty five episodes. I mean, just go read about it.
It's it's it's a it's a one hundred piece episode.
It's a grind beast.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Of a show. But I think it's absolutely worth it.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
Yeah, I liked it. I liked it when I first
started watching it, and then the more I got into it, it
was just like I kind of got that exact same
feeling that you were saying. Because I'm not a binger,
I was like, all right, it's not it's not grabbing
me to take.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
What are we doing here?

Speaker 4 (38:20):
And I eventually did finish it, but it wasn't like
a oh my god, I have to watch it, watch
it episode episode episode. It took me a long time
to get through it, and I had just lost my
kind of thirst for it by the end of it.
And I can see what kind of shows you like
because you like this and you like Westworld, well season
one specifically.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Yeah, only season.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
I'll dance with you on that, because, like, I also
like shows that kind of make me put the pieces
together in my head and then where some things can
be put together by me differently than somebody else. Right,
I could have a different interpretation of it than someone
else does, but I think for me, at least, the
better the best shows are the ones where you don't

(39:02):
have to to like look something up to figure out
what the actual intention of it was. You kind of
everyone understands it, but maybe they react to it differently,
if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
It's fair. I just I like Lost.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
It's it's not my favorite show ever, I obviously, and
not as high on it as you are, but I
can understand why a lot of people do like it
because it is one of those shows kind of what
Chris was mentioning earlier. It makes you think, It really
makes you put the pieces together, and mysteries are great.
They just keep kind of grabbing you into it, And
like Okay, what's gonna happen? And I maybe it was

(39:36):
just me not getting that payoff as soon as I
hoped that, I wasn't as like intrigued with kind of
finishing it as quickly as possible as I probably should have.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
None other thing, too, is and I think Anderson, You're
really I think big on this is characters.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yes, character, characters. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Shows, So I kept bringing this back for you too, Yeah,
and it really is. I think this is the ultimate
show that says the plot's one thing. The plots all
be see something. We're going to continue to advance every
single episode. But the thing that is important to us
is characters. Because we do a flashback to make you
know more about a character. Every single episode. We're going
to teach you more about this person that the episode

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kind of lightly revolves around. And it is how they
I mean, they developed really a dozen separate characters with
a dozen separate stories that all lead them to this
island essentially, and this course in life.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
And it's these wildly flawed people.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
And I think the other thing, too, is is every
character has a different flaw and you can see yourself,
your good parts and your bad parts in little bits
of every character, so connecting to them, and I can
see so much of myself in like three or four
different characters. And then you see that and you see
the mistakes they make, and you see their wins and
you see their losses, and you feel that because you

(40:52):
have felt similar emotions from not necessarily similar situations, but
from just similar feelings that you've had. Given how a
they portray because they think there's very very good acting, Yeah,
but also be the music makes you feel those moments more.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
I another idea for another episode down the line. I
want to have the music in movies slash TV conversation
and like what our favorite scores slash composers are, because
I agree with you that Michael Jacchino's score on Lost
is fantastic. It's I think it's some scores can make
or break a movie and it can make less so
a show. I think it's more important in a movie,

(41:30):
but it can make or break it. It makes There's
like a famous a dry run of Star Wars when
it first came out and they did it without the
John Williams score, and everyone's like, this is the worst
thing I've ever seen. And then John Williams scores in
and like George Lucas was like, you literally saved my
movie because that.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Made it as good as it was Jurassic Park.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Yeah, Jurassic Parks. That's why I'm gonna say John Williams
is the best composer of all time. But we can
have that discard to the Caribbean. That was Hans zimmer Well.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
That was amazing too. What's that really?

Speaker 4 (42:03):
He's great? Yeah, yeah, he's uh. I mean, there's a
couple of really really good ones. I have a the
one I'm going to save for another time is my
favorite score in terms of which movie it's in.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
How to be a fun draft scores just period scores.
I think we live in to movie scores. Tdays can
go along. Just singular movie scores I think would be
a great.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
That's a good one. We'll do that another time. But
I'm with you man, like I that's one of that.
And the characters that you were just mentioning, like kind
of seeing yourself in each one, That's that's what I
love in these kind of things, being able to relate
to these people and and kind of just living their lives,
uh vicariously through the show and feeling you're like you're
a part of it. Is great because there's like multiple
ways to experience it right where you can watch a

(42:44):
show and be like, oh, I just want to see
what happens, you know, And I think that's kind of
where I am at Black Sales. It's hard to relate
to those types of characters, but it's just really cool
because it's like you're you're just transformed into that setting.
But like something like Lost or some some other things
that we're going to talk about later, it's more like,
oh my gosh, I feel this too on a deeper,
just different level, because it's something that I can relate

(43:06):
to so easily.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
I think that if you're looking for a show, a
really really intense show to dig your teeth into, I
think we can all agree Black Sales is the one
to watch. Yeah, if you're looking for a slightly easier watch,
but something to really dig your teeth into, something that's
also great for a couple. I think it's a very
very good couple show and something because you can bounce ideas.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Off of each other.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
You can if you're watching for the first time, you can,
you know, come up with what's actually happening here, and
that kind of element of it. I think it makes
it a less intense still very good thing to eat
to stay my last year, yeah, to see to lost.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
You can you sink your teeth into it. But it's
just it's not as much the.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Gore and is not as much just the the the
lewdness and the intensity, which which we why we love
Black Sales, but it is nonetheless.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
And this is where like something that I've like, I'm
not a film major. I'm not going to try and
talk to it like other people can with that. But
there's a difference between plot and story, and a great point.
Plot is something where it's like this just has to happen.
It's like, okay, the guy that needs to uh, okay,
what's a good example of this. It's this is why

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I'm not a film major with this, but the plot
is like what has to happen? And like, uh, historically
with like black Sales will say right, you know.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Whatever, I don't even can't even think.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
I mean I think I think here for anybody who's
seen Law still understand this. There's plot that continues on
through the entire show. Where are they exactly where are
But there's stories of oh, how did how did this guy,
you know, live his life before getting to the island.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
That's the story.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
That is the story, and that's what's more important. And
there's there's very very distinct like movies and shows that
focus too much on plot and then don't focus enough
on story, and the ones that focus more on story
are usually the ones that hit more at least with me.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
M Yeah, it's really well said. Okay, thank you. It's
like the smartest thing we've said though, maybe the smartest
thing we ever say on this podcast a while to
get out of my mouth. But we'll do that.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Think we get some main event, let's cause I think
briefly there hasn't been too many trailers to really go over.
There was a trailer released this morning for the new
season of Silo. For me. Silo is a is Apple
TV sci fi It's based on a book series. They
came out with their main trailer for season two, which
I think comes out either in November or December. I
have as I have it as my twenty fifth show

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of all time right now. I think it's a sensational
show that has really wild ideas for kind of posts
apocalyptic or so we think world, and I think it's
executed really well, really good acting. Rebecca Ferguson is tremendous
and so Silo Season two has a new trailer out.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Check that out. But in terms of the news.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
There was an article from Deadline a week ago that
says Christopher Nolan sets next movie at Universal in Imax
four summer twenty twenty six, with Matt Damon eyed to star.
So we have it is. We do not know what
it is. We just know that his plans for a

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July seventeenth, twenty twenty six release. Matt Damon is already
in talks and there was Universal declined to comment. There's
been no information, but we know that Christopher Nolan builds
these A list star movies.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Matt Damon was just excellent and Oppenheimer, so that is
great news. And Christopher Nolan is.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
I mean, when we talk about directors going right now,
who is better right now in the game.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Right now for Nolan, right now.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Right now, who is the best director in the game.
Because there's a very fair case to make, given the
hit per movie put out ratio, that it is Christopher Nolan.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
He just doesn't have the full body of work we
were trying to do it for I thought he had
a lot more, to be honest, for this exact exercise,
and there's only eleven, which I mean, that's still a lot.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
And they're all really good. I've seen all but one
of them, So you.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Could probably Quentin Tarantino.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
You're in Tarantine. He's a Tarantino fan.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I am obviously really Scott No, I know there really
Scott's missed too many times, I think, especially recently.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
Yeah, this is why it's hard for me, i'd say
right now, yes, But in terms of Spielberg, yeah, I
was gonna say Spielberg all.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Time sort of thing. But yeah, current, Yeah, i'd.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Say Nolan currently. Yeah, I think that's a good claim
to stick our flag in, for sure.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
So Christopher nolan next movie, we're still a couple of
years off, but I think we're all going to be
their opening weekend after just the massive successes he had.
So that then leads to a question of what are
and what is the best Christopher Nolan movies. So what
we've decided to do is a draft, and because he

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has such a small catalog, we can only go three rounds. Yeah,
so we'll each have three picks and we'll just I
think we run through it, snake, can we just if
you get the first pick, lucky you if you get
the last big Sorry, no luck.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
But I think we simply do that.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
So what I'm gonna put is Anderson, you're gonna be one,
Christopher you're gonna be two. I'm gonna be three. We're
gonna put this into a random number generator right here,
into a sequence, and one and two and three get
the sequence, and we start with Christopher as one, Anderson
you are two, and I am three. Number three got three,
so it goes two to one three. So Christopher you

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have the first pick. Anderson you have the second pick,
and I love it. The third pick, Christopher, you have
the first overall pick in the Christopher Nolan movie draft, What,
my friend, are you selecting?

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Well, it's quite simple. I'm a space guy, so go
ahead and give me Andrew Stellar.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Yeah, that's a great pick. That's that's such a I
am shocked you could be shocked. That's it's such a
good pick. Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
No, I didn't think you do that. I think for one,
the story, the plot, Jackson or Anderson, you just went
and broke down the difference.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
So yeah, and this one between is like you got
to save the world.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
That's exactly, but the story hits on him, his daughter,
the people he's working with to try to save the planet.
My goodness, everyone gets a piece of the action and
it just gets better as the film goes on. You're wondering, oh,
my gosh, what's going to happen next.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Hell.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
The one of the scenes that gets me every time
they're on a planet full of water mountains. He says,
oh the mountains. He says, honey, those are not mountains,
those are ways. And not to mention, I think for
every minute on that planet is like a certain amount
of years on Earth, which is absurd. But when you

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think about time and all of that cool stuff, if you.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Ever thought about, Sander explains it really well, that is
actual facts. The further you go out in the space,
the quicker time moves back home for us, well for
them out there.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
But it's just crazy dynamic that I can't put into words.
But when that movie came out and I watched it,
I had to rewatch it because I know I missed
so much, And every time I've watched it, I learned
something new, and it just put in perspective how.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Small we are.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
As a human race, how small this planet is and
how much is out there that we do nothing about.
And it touched on not aliens, but three D, four
D all of that and just a film. To be honest,
this could have been a TV series. I went for two.
It is a long film. Though it's a long film,
but I wanted more.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
I was like, yo, can't end the worst part two,
It's never gonna come. Okay, well, damn, I gotta watch
it again.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
But Interstellar just one of my favorite It might be
my favorite movie of all time.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Really, I love it. It's that good.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Not to mention Matthew McConaughey is absolutely I was gonna
say best best movie him. Yes, Yallas Byers Club. He
just killed the role so good. All of it's good,
I think, Yeah, I say, epic science fiction. I'm like, bro,
you do realize everything you're doing here is damn near realist.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Now. We I mean, obviously we don't know what happens
when you go into a black hole and oh yeah,
when you pass the event horizon and all those.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Two things is like all right, Bud, But everything else
is like, huh did you talk to Niget?

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Neil digressed Tyson for an hour and get all this information.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
But he was usually like these types of movies he
kind of poo poos on because it's like, oh, it's
like way too far fetched and everything. But he was
all like, no, this is like legit how it works relativity.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Because because nobody's ever done time dilation right the way
that they did right, and this is so cool the
ability to turn that then into emotional tale when they
come back to the main shuttle and the third guy
up and outer space is like.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Fifty years older, right, right, and.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
It's just that emotional moment you know, story V plot, right, Yeah,
it's that emotionally gone for seven minutes and then like
the if you remember, they're going down to check on
this guy that in the water planet, the mountains, water planet, whatever.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
They're going down to check on this guy that they
hadn't heard from, but he had sent his data up
and it was like it'd been like seven years or
something like that. So they went down and they found
that his ship or whatever.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
It was broken.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
It remains, yeah, and it was broken from the previous
wave right before they got down. So they got down
like right after he did. But because it was the Relativity.
It was like seven years later for Early.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Yeah, that whole sequence during like the probably act two
of act of three acts I think was my favorite
part of it.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
I'm with you. I love that movie.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
I just think there is one that I would or
probably two that I would have taken ahead of it,
but that's I like to pick my pick. I'm thankfully
you left this for me. It has the best performance
I've ever seen in any movie, and that is The
Dark Knight. Heath Ledger as the Joker literally commands every
single second on screen that like that he is in

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And there's stories of the actors like freaking out because
it's like, oh my god, is this guy?

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Like is he there?

Speaker 4 (53:08):
And it was kind of scary to be on set
with him, but like in a good way because he
was so in character and just the way the music
plays out. I love Christian Bale's performance. I think he
gets overshadowed because of Heath Ledger. Christian Bale's performance is fantastic.
Michael Caine playing his role of Alfred is great. I
think what's the guy Harvey Dent's name, the actor's name.

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I think he does a fantastic job as well, the
performances in this are awesome, and I just I love
the action. And that's a Dark Knight from two thousand
and eight. It's just so, so so good does this story.
It does not feel like it's like two and it's
a two and a half hour movie because everything kind
of just flies by because everything's happening so fast in

(53:51):
a good way. So that's probably my favorite movie. You
said that Interstellar is your favorite movie of all time,
Dark Knight probably is mine as well. I'm also a
big Batman fan, so I love kind of the reality
of a guy with a checkered pass, but you know,
it has to kind of get over his fears and everything.
But this is just almost a perfectly made movie in
every single way. Every scene is just really really well done.

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There are no flaws in it, zero flaws.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
What I love about it.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
I obviously I agree with you that it has one
of the greatest, if not the greatest, villain. I mean,
with respect to Darth Vader and Darth Vaders NICs and all.
We're talking about a villain who is obviously a cartoon villain,
who's Deplin played a dozen different times in a dozen
different ways.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
But we're talking about the person.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Who did it absolutely better than anybody else could have
ever dreamed of, to a point where you are at
points both sickened and yet you cannot wait to watch
the next shot of what this person. I mean, the
first shot of the movie is the bus jail robbery scene,
and the first shot I think is over a rooftop

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coming in where you see you guys ziplining in or
someone may you see the busses. I think either way,
the first shot and the first scene is the absurdity
of this massive, massive robbery and you don't even see
jokers part of it until the end of it, and
then you put the pieces back together of wow, this

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was his whole or he orchestrated every moment of this robbery,
and then that set in from the first scene over
how brilliantly evil of a character this is, and I
mean and to the point of he's just walking around
I think one of his own people he shoots, he's
down on the ground and he just takes a machine
gun as he joyously walks by him to the bus.

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I mean, this is a guy who they develop within
the first five minutes of the movie as a sadistically
joyously evil person who again you can't help but just
can't take your eyes off of because it's acted so
well from the late great Heath Ledger.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
Yeah, and what I love about that scene is there's
so much that's about the Joker, Like they do so
much setting up for him without even being there and
without telling you. It's like they have the ways where
they set up a movie and then they tell you
about it, like, oh, there's this guy that's like the
classic example of that is Lord of the Rings, right
where they actually give you the prologue and they tell
you like, Okay, there's this guy surn he was bad,

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he made these rings.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Da da da. They all do that.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
It does it in such an artistically brilliant way that
it gets you sucked in immediately in the dark Knight
so and then everything after that's just fantastic. So yeah,
I'm with you on that. It best performance of not
even just a villain, any any actor in any role
period would be my would be Heath Ledger for that one.
And unfortunately it took his life, but his legacy will

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always live on.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
I mean, it's a guy that also I mean you
mentioned gave his life. I mean I always people should
fact check me on this because I'm not one hundred
percent sure.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
I know I did he overdose?

Speaker 3 (56:50):
And I'm wondering if he overdosed on medication that was
related to this role, because.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
I know that was almost everyone.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
And it comes to that conclusion that it was due
to this role that made him do that, because he
was so in depth into the character that he would
like I don't even know, like personally wouldn't know the
different where you know, the classic example of an actor
is like where does the Joker stop? And where does
Heath Ledger begin? You know that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
I mean, there's a reason we have it in the intro.
You know, someone don't want to.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Just want to watch the world burn, dude, And like
I'm telling you, every second he is on the screen,
he commands the entire set.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
And that's a set full of stars. I didn't even
mention Gary Oldman, who I think is great in that movie.
Are you sad that he took the pick?

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Is that what you're going through right now?

Speaker 2 (57:37):
No, that's a great pick. I'm not mad at it.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Jackson, all right, pick three for you?

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Oppenheimer and and and Oppenheimer for me. It's just I
probably would have taken it if it was one one
for me. So Oppenheimer, I feel like is and I'm
you guys know, I'm a science fiction and I'm also
a science guy a little bit. And what I love
about Oppenheimer is story v plot. Right. The plot is
abviously the development of the atomic bomb and all that,

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but the story of who this man is and the
struggles that he went through and just what he you know,
who he was.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
As a person, Robert Oppenheimer.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
But also the way it builds through the story of
of you know, Robert Downey Junior, who plays opposite you know.
And I think those performances back and forth having those guys,
and and I think it's really beautifully done to the
extent of the black and white usage, where everything in
color is through the perspective of Oppenheimer, and everything that

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is not the perspective of an Oppenheimer specifically goes through
the lens of black and white, and that creates And
I didn't really pick up on that until I think
that the second or third time I watched.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
I've seen it probably about four or five.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Times now, and and picking up on that was such
an interesting choice. By Christopher Nolan. I think so it's
it's that story, the plot element of how you develop
those two of them. But I also think you have
eight plus performances by everybody else. Matt Damon we mentioned
obviously is gonna star in the next movie for Christopher
Nolan twenty twenty six. I think he gives an A

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plus performance. Florence Pugh, you know, I think is a
rock star in this because she definitely sets in sort
of the person who essentially held him back, and it
is kind of that. I mean at the story plot, right,
it's this story of how he is his life was so.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Deeply affected by this person.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
I think you have a lot of little pieces who
come in for all of sixty seconds and have big impacts,
where it's Casey Affleck Rommi Malik who comes in at
the last minute and he's kind of the hero of
the whole thing. I think Oppenheimer's beautifully done in all
those basic filmmaking senses.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
But what really gets it for me, over.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Maybe all else, is the science accuracy of it. Obviously,
you get a lot of realism over what happened with
security clearance, but it's the element where you know there
were so many parts to building this bomb, and whether
you think it's right or wrong isn't even the point here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
The point here.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Is how long it took, how many scientists it took,
how you had to have a separation of scientists to
just make sure that stuff didn't almost said a bad
word there, stuff didn't leak, you know, to the other side,
so you had They nailed the accuracy of that. They
nailed the accuracy to the point where you have Richard Fireman,
who's a famous, famous scientist from back in the day,

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and Richard, Richard Fireman was played by I'd.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Have to look it up again.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
I wanted to say, no, no, no, no, this is it's
from somebody's son, Dennis Quaid's son, Jack Quaid. Yeah, Jack
Quaid plays plays Fireman. It's a very very small role.
But they nail the accuracy of all of these minor
scientist characters, and they really make you feel like, oh, well,
that's an interesting character, but that's who that person was

(01:00:59):
actually like. To the point of Richard Fiman is after
they you know, the morning after they finally do trinity
and test the bomb and it works, they're they're all
celebrating and Richard Fiemon's playing some bongo drums.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Richard Fine playing bongo drums.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Christopher Nolan actually like did the homework to learn about
who these secondary scientists were in all these different little
characters and said, who are these little who are these
guys that were small but fundamental parts of this story,
And how can I make sure that I, you know,
treat them right and make sure that these characters are

(01:01:36):
done with the kindness and the accuracy to who they
actually were and what they meant to the Manhattan Project.
And he nailed it at almost every single turn to
those small things where I'm gonna just how much do
those bongo drums cost for the movie studio to actually
have bongo drums on set for Jack Quaid to play.
God knows what it costs, But they did it just

(01:01:57):
to have the little accuracy because Richard Fine played just
the little accuracy that he took with all of these
different characters to make it scientifically and scientific.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
And personally right on all these levels.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
I love that from Christopher Nolan, And it's those little
pieces for me, along with everything else that makes it
for me my favorite Christopher Nolan movie.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Yeah, I was debating between picking that one and Dark Knight.
I just I loved Oppenheimer. I actually think the first
time I watched Oppenheimer probably was a slightly better viewing
experience than my first time watching Dark Knight, cause I
was pretty young when I was watching Dark But I
saw a Dark Knight the first time, didn't fully understand it,
and then when I watched it when I was older,
I'm like, damn, I just saw a really good movie.

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But Oppenheimer I knew right away, like it was really
really good. And there's actually a like I think you
kind of teased this earlier in the episode today that
there's some I don't want to say controversy with it,
but there's some wide range of opinions on Oppenheimer. There's
people that didn't like it as much. And I was
surprised with that because I was so excited when I
found out that Nolan was doing this movie because I

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was always interested in Oppenheimer's story as just historically, because
I took a class in high school about US history
after nineteen forty five, everyone is required to take US
history up through World War Two and then after that,
like you don't really learn about the country as much, right,
But I took this class. It was really interesting, Like
one of the biggest topics was, you know, the making

(01:03:23):
of the atomic bombs. So I love the lens that
you see it through his eyes. And then the interview,
the whole interview sequence was great.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Emily Blunt in that scene where Emily Blunt has to
combay and really I don't think Emily Blunt does much
in this movie, but the one scene where she's getting
questioned and then just fires right back at whoever that
was Jason Clark I think was the actor questioning her
that scene was it hits and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
It's really really good. I love the music in it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Gorenson was the person needed the music and just the
rumble and the pounding of that you later learn is
the assembly hall in his celebration.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
You hear that the rumbling throughout the whole movie, and
that's what it connects back to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
Oh, it's it's it's good. I'm a big fan of it.
I I loved how well it was done. I like
this pick. What about you, Chris? Have you seen it?

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
No, I have not seen You haven't seen Oppenheimer.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
I didn't well that, I mean it's Peacock and you
gotta do it. I mean, you just you have to
do it. Well, it's required. I mean the fact that
we're doing that, you have.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
To see it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Do you get back to back picks here? Or we
just do what's your uh?

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Just moving right along? Yep, gosh, all right, we're moving
right along. And Andrew's for a lot of the same
reasons you gave. But I think you know, yes, it
doesn't have the villain, but I think it has a
lot of the things except for the villain.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Batman Begins. I'm surprised you're going with Batman Begins here. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
I love Batman Begins. I remember we were it was
it was I think it was in high school. I
want to say, yeah, it was. It was a class
about movies, and I had to do a like a
five page essay on Batman Begins and the imagery in
it and what it all meant. I couldn't tell you
a single word about it, but I remember that I
had to watch it like three or four times, and

(01:05:09):
I just loved it more and more. I do think
that what you ended up getting was a product that
is lesser than The Dark Knight, and understandably so. But
I do also think that you have Liam Neeson playing
I can't even remember the villain's name. Rosal will thank you,
And I do still think he is a very interesting

(01:05:30):
villain and he's a good villain. He isn't too complex,
He's more of a basic villain. But I do like
that they set up a very big background. And I mean,
for me, one of my favorite movies of all time
is Starshrek two thousand and nine because one of the
things that it does is it sets up characters so well,
and it gives lots of time to the background of characters.
And they gave so much time and Batman begins to

(01:05:53):
develop who is this Bruce Wayne, who are his adversaries?
What kind of a person is he? And all that
backstory made you truly, you know, really emotionally buy into
Christian Bale who I mean he was. For this was
one of my first chances to be like, oh, he's
an American actor, and my god was no, sorry, right,

(01:06:16):
he's a British after playing an American and what an
American actor, What an American job he can do? Where
you just fully are bought into this is this is
Bruce Wayne. And for people of our generation, in our thirties.
This will always be Bruce.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Wayne for me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
I'm not sure if anybody else will ever be Bruce.
I mean as good of a job maybe as the
Batman is from Robin Pattinson. I think Christian Bale will
always be my Batman because of what Christopher Nolan did
in this movie making this just buy into who he
is as a person, and I think that I think
that Begins really does set in that tone of this

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is who this character, and this is what it's all about.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
This is their motivations.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Nothing in the Dark Night works without Batman Begins setting
it all up.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
I'm with you on that, and I was surprised that
you took this this early because I was going to
say a lot of the same things you did. There's
a lot of the same elements from The Dark Knight
that are in Batman Begins. It's similar to how I
said and talked about Lord of the Rings last episode,
like I kind of view them all as one movie. I
kind not as much with Batman the trilogy, the christmaal
One and Batman trilogy, but I kind of view him

(01:07:25):
as like you, It's a much better experience if you
watch it back to back to back because it's a
pretty connected story, and I really think Batman Begins does
a fantastic job kind of laying the groundwork, and Dark
Knight is the peak of the three of them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
But I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
I think Batman Begins is very, very very overlooked because
of that second movie. But it's it's a very very
close second place. So I agree with you on that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Have you seen any of the three Batman movies?

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Yes, Batman Begins, saw that one, saw The Dark Knight,
saw Dark Knight Rises, saw all three of them. So
how would you rank the three Dark Knight Rises? The
Dark Night, I think over Darking.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
I'm about see where Chris is going, because you must
be a Baine fan.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Bain was like my first Okay, okay, he stole the show, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
And he did, so I mean, I guess I don't
know if you're going here, Chris, but but well it's
my pick. But yeah, that's right after Anderson. Then this
sets up a very very interesting question here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Yeah, I mean, but listen, I know where he's going.
For a lot of the same reason, we don't need
to repeat it. I think I think that Batman Begins
and also just again the music, it's great. The score
is a tremendous, tremendous score. Yeah, that makes you feel.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
Like I used it for the Huskies National champ or
Sugar Bowl game.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Sugar Bowl. Yeah, in the background of it. It was
just a hit perfectly. So the question is do you
go rises here?

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
Inception? I've taken that. There was a couple that I
was looking at, but I'm gonna go with inception. I
know there's similar to Lost in a way that it
gets like a lot of like, oh, what the hell
hell happened at the ending, Like it's kind of it
goes into a lot of different directions and it kind
of confuses a lot of people. But this is one

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of those that goes right up to that level before
I get out of it, and it keeps me there
right in terms of just the mind f and but
the thing that sets it apart once again, I'm going
to say this again. The score So good Time by
Hans Zimmer probably his best piece hot take. I think

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the ending is fantastically done, kind of like I was
saying earlier, with the way you can have different perceptions
on what actually is happening. I think that's a great
example of that on if the top actually falls or not.
You can have so many discussions about that one. Leonardo DiCaprio,
God bless his soul for his off screen stuff, but

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definitely missed not getting Best Actor for his role in
this one. I think he absolutely nailed it. Joseph Gordon
Levitt is a great piece. Tom Hardy again great in it.
Who's the Who's the other one that's in it that
I'm trying to think of?

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Well, I think I think you have Elliott Page. That's
what Elliott Page is.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
I think a really really good job really when she
was a quote and he was Ellen Page.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Yeah, I think really nice.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
I think Elliott I'm supposed to say Elliott Page since
it's one. Yeah, sometimes so I think I think the
thing that that they did really well in that role
was representing the viewer on how crazy this ish is all.
I mean, like, like, we're here, we're doing this right now,
and we're in Like, I think that they really did

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a good job of allowing the viewers to be represented
in the movie in this wild cast in in a
group that is already very much well versed in the
thought of inception.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
Not to mention the visual effects are second to none.
It's probably the best visual effects that Nolan never did.
You could say Offenheimer's up there with that, but I
think Inception tops it. And it's done what sixteen years earlier,
so that's pretty crazy fourteen years sorry, twenty ten. Yeah,
so I love the visual effects, I love the score,

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I love the story. Inception is one hell of a
movie for me. I totally forgot Killian review was in
that one as well. Right, Yes, of course he's like
the guy they're trying to incept, right, So yeah, it
can get confusing for people who don't like that kind
of stuff. Maybe it's not your cup of tea. But
if you're into the kind of movies that make you
think a little bit and you're into the sci fi
and the action, I think is actually really underrated in

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that one because of all of the different things with
the practical effects they do.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
I love it. Inceptions my pick, all right, I will
hold it home.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
But before we move on to the next pick, so
here's I wouldn't have even I think I would have
waited until round three a draft Inception because I think
it's an extremely simple movie that a lot of people
make a big deal about and they confused about and YadA.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
YadA, YadA. I think it's a wildly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Simple movie when you just look through the dream sequences
and walk it back and say at the very end, well,
obviously the top's gonna fall. You just gotta work the
timing wise he gets off the plane. The plane was
the first thing that where they dialed into the dreams.
There wasn't a stage before that, so it's I think
it's very easy to walk all walk through the whole

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thing and say there's there's Everybody always makes a big
deal it's the top canna fall in the end. I
think it's the most ridiculous, like you know, thing that
people try to make a big deal and confuse, and
I think there's no confusion at all.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
I think it's just a really simple story that was
well executed. So does that make it a bad movie.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
No, but I get really annoyed from people who make
it a crazy exceptional movie and because of the ending,
and I get what you're seeing. The ending is fantastic.
I think it's a fine ending, but for me, it's
just so self explanatory. When I get to the end,
I'm like, why did you show the top still going
it's very off obviously gonna fall. We can all do math.
We can go plus one plus two plus three minus

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one minus one minus one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Okay, we're back at the beginning.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
Yeah, well, I mean I guess this is where you
and I differ on the ending, because I I think
lost gets too lost.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
It's lost and lost.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
So that's where it's just like, yeah, you try and
take it too many different ways. You try and go
way over the top that I like just as simple,
like is it real or is it not? Like that
kind of thing, And just even if it can be
simple for a lot of people, I don't think that's
a bad thing. And I just think it's well, like
you said, well executed. So I prefer inception.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
I just remember I remember singing in high school with
a bunch of friends. Yeah, and the first of my chance,
I went and saw it at a drive in movie theater.
My wife there's no chance she's listening. I saw with
my girlfriend at the time. Had an amazing time, nice
driving movie.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
It was like I was watching the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
I was paying attention, but I remember watching it with
her and in after the good time, I remember just
kind of the ending of the movie was sort of
just like I was just kind of like, Okay, I
get it. Yeah, like we're back and they did the thing.
Congratulations y'all, y'all won, and she was and she was
just like, oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Gosh, is it real? Oh I can't believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
And I'm like, girl, come on, like this is easy,
this is so simple. The top's gonna fall. Why are
we making this a question? And I just I've always
had that bitter taste. My other friends who were in
the car next door also had the same thought that
was sort of like, gee, it was real life?

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Was I think in the end? Were they still dreaming?

Speaker 4 (01:14:27):
I'm like, guys, I think the phenomenon describing here is it.
For some people, confusing movies are not their thing, right,
I would not recommend Memento.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
That's your thing. It's gonna come up tonight. We're gonna
get there.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
But there are those movies and I think Inception falls
under this category where even the casual viewer can notice that,
oh I just got something that that was like confusing
quote unquote and needed right there, and that makes them
feel good. And that's one thing that I think is
a good thing to have. It doesn't have any barriers

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of entry, so to speak, in a movie like No
One makes the casual viewer make them think that they
just went through this entire puzzle, right, So that's why
I think it's brilliant and and not to mat like
I said, that's that was all secondary to the to
the actual story, the special effects, the performances, and the
score to me, so like that's why I think that

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movie is really good.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
And score is great. The score is tremendous. Yeah, And
that's I just I just really like it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
And I think that because a lot of people get
it and they feel good about getting it, that's okay,
that's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
So the thought there is let people enjoy things Jackson
shut out, not even that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
I just think that you enjoy those really really complicated
things that kind of go into like multiple different ways
and where some people would kind of excuse my fun
get lost and that. But and this was simple in
relative terms to what you like. So but for some
people it is can be more complicated than what they

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normally watch.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
All right, Chris moves along, unless you have any further
thoughts on exception, I do not, So I get back
to back picks.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Yeah you do, all right, give me the Dark Knight Rises,
and I will go ahead and take Dunkirk.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Okay, So we talked a lot about Batman.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Baine is obviously a tremendous film, and then we can
touch quickly on Baine, and then I was just Dunkirk.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
He was incredible. He liked it more than a joker. Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
I mean, it's a a one one b It's I'll
just take it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Because Hardy was that. Hardy was truly and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
I was trying to quote bang quotes for the next
year you're doing in the Horse, Yeah, just trying it all.
So that was a great film. Yeah, he taught Batman
a lesson. He broke him, broke his man's that's.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Really the only one where Batman true.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
I mean, yes, obviously Maggie Jillenhall dies in Dark Knight,
but like I mean, listen, he I wouldn't say.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
He fully loses in Dark Night. He doesn't. He fully
loses and rises.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Yeah, that's his first l and he has to recover,
and boyd does he recover.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
But it takes time.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
Oh, Rises, they develop, which who I guess we're supposed
to think is Robin as Joseph Gordon Levitt. But you
don't you see him as Robin yet? No?

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
But I think you see Anne Hathaway as Catwoman, right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
Yes, yeah, so they developed that's what they develop, Joseph
Gordon levit is as a soon to be Robin. It's
the character development in those next roles. That's where rises,
I think is really really strong.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
And then with Dunkirk, I thought it was a great
war film. Ye gives you a different look as opposed
to any other war from that you can go watch.
But yeah, I enjoyed Dunkirk and considering I haven't seen
Up Been Higher, Tennant, Man of Steel, The Prestige, Insomnia, Memento,
and following I was like, you know what, I'll take
a movie i've.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Seen there, you go, probably a good call. I like Dunkirk.
I think I am a kind of snob when it
comes to war movies.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
So it wasn't my favorite in terms of just because
I've seen so many World War two movies and mini
series and stuff like that. So like, I didn't know
how I felt about Nolan's take on that and kind
of his obsession with time and everything. It was cool.
It was a cool aspect of it. It was something
you normally wouldn't see uh, and and it was an
event that I hadn't known a ton about in the
Dunkirk exit, I guess you could say uh, But I

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just I thought it was good, kind of not a
ton more than that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
Han Zimmers, I think weakest of maybe his main movies.
I don't think it was great. I also think it
dropped a bit from the acting. I think I think
Nolan went a little bit more unheard of if that and.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Which fine, I'm cool with that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
You need a lot of young you know, you know,
I would say young actors, but you need actors who
can throw be thrown into this circumstances. I think that
it lost a little bit, I think on on the
unexperiencedness of the acting. Again, I don't think the score
was particularly strong, but I think it followed a very
very good plot, and it had big moments that certainly

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made you buy in emotionally, whether it being the boats
all coming, whether it being the plane crash into the
water right next to the beach. It had these specific
scenes a lot like Interstellar, where you have the docking
sequence right where you have the wave sequence, and you
have these scenes that are are just oh my God
scenes and Nolan I think came through with a couple
of those big scenes. There just weren't enough to make

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it I think a for me, it didn't push the
ninety bar.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Yeah, I think that's a good way to put it.
Like it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
I still like it as a movie. Like I did
not have a bad viewing experience. I have a lot
of those, but that wasn't one of them. But yeah,
question for you guys did in Dark Knight Rises before
we move on, did you guys understand the or not understand?
Did you catch the Tale of Two Cities references in
Dark Knight Rises.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
No, there's like a bunch of them and like it's
almost Tail of Two Cities by the way, as a
lost episode.

Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
Okay, anyway, moving on, do you know what Tailor Two
Cities is? Rich, It's it's Charles Dickens novel or you know, play,
but it's it's a lot. It has to do with
kind of you know, the orphan part of Bruce Wayne and.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Was Bane as well. No, Robin, oh, he is also
an orphan. I didn't know. Joseph Gordon leve it was
developed out of the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
Yeah, he was u And then just kind of the
the idea where you know you've got to kind of
get kicked out in a way and then you have
to kind of work your way back. There's a lot
of different ways. I need to look it up more
to get more of the references, but it's like very
well known, as like Nolan almost went too far into
the comparison with tailor of Two Cities, with with Gotham

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in the Dark Knight Rises. But I actually really like it,
and that's kind of where the whole Cops versus the
Bane people kind of came so similar. Thing happens my pick, right,
it's my pick, yeah, second the last book, it's my
last pick, right, third round, Yes, it is the second
last pick overall.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
God, I have to choose between two here, I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Go because I'm I'm I have two right now that
I have like right around each other, So.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
I'm gonna go Memento. Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
Yeah. I had to watch it multiple times too. This
is one of those where I didn't understand originally, but
the more I kind of looked up about it and
then kind of watched it again, I started to see
things and I think it's actually brilliantly done. Once you
figure out what is going on. I'm not gonna give
too many spoilers about that, but it's just Nolan has

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an obsession with time, and I think this is actually
his We talked about Interstellar, how well it's played out.
I think it's more and just in that middle sequence
that he does it throughout the entire movie. He does
it with Memento, and I think it's the most of
the best executed aspect and the best executed film in
regards to time in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
With Christopher, this would have been my pick because I
mentioned it with Oppenheimer, the use of black and white
and the use of.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
I was gonna try and avoid mention, but.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Yeah, I mean I get it. For those who haven't
seen it, that is.

Speaker 4 (01:22:16):
It's old, so you yeah, I mean, if you haven't
watched it, watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
First of all, you like Nolan, But again it is
about the usage of that, and it's Christopher that. I
mean Christopher Nolan obviously when he made Oppenheimer, he's just
he's pulling right back for totals.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
I was trying. I mentioned it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
I'm like, did I just tipped my hand? So I'm
a little bit frustrated that you took this but it
really is a when you get it, you get it,
and then it's the light bulb, it's the oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Also Guy Pierce. Yeah, the performance from Guy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
I mean really I think it was I have to
look at the time and when Nolan put these out,
but I feel like it was his coming out party.

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
It was originally came out in two thousand, but yeah,
so I think it was a second movie overall. So
this definitely was that was following. Following was number one.
Didn't really get like the full on rewards from that.
Memento was his first, like real hit. So yes, it
was his coming out party, Chris, have you have you

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seen momentoo?

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
Remember?

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
So? Yeah, so I just just forget what we said
about anything.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
We just said, oh thanks guys. Yeah, I mean we
didn't really give anything away. No you did. And I
can go check it out.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
Yeah, I highly recommend it if you're into the time stuff.
It's really really good. Yeah, it don't And a lot
of people what happens is when they see like, oh,
Christopher Nolan, like I love all of his movies, and
then they watched like the most recent ones, going back
to just about Dark Night, and then like anything before
that it's like, Eh, maybe I'll watch the Prestige. Yeah,
maybe I'll watch following, maybe Insomnia. Maybe maybe Memento is

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just like it kind of is viewed as more cult classics,
which they kind of are. Uh, but I if any
of them, for me, it's gonna be Memento. I think
those that that one was just so well executed. Like
I'm not gonna say anything more than once you get it,
you get it, and it's a great movie.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
I think it's it's a really solid pig. I'll wrap
it up with Tennett.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Tennant is highly divisive, and I think it is highly
flawed in a number of ways. But I think what
I do give Christopher Nolan, I'm really people who love
the Prestige, and I do also love it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
I love the Prestige. I really do as well.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
But but Tenant, for me, it's more of a thing
about what I saw Christopher Nolan going for.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
He didn't fully nail it. I don't know it too.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
But I watching it back again, which I did about
a year ago, and I listened on different sound settings.
The first time, I hated it and I almost didn't
even get through it. I think I got through the
full thing for a while, because I think the sound
editing was really badly done, So I'll give an honest,

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you know, just absolute f when it comes to that.
And the music, weirdly enough, was also done by the
same guy who did Oppenheimer. That Ludwig guy wasn't even
a Hans Zimmer and I think you know that's Christopher
Nolans talked about how he wants the sound of movie
to be kind of its own character rather than the music.
The sound and I get it, it's obviously a big

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part of it. Especially in Oppenheimer, he may have gone
a little bit too far into that intenant where you
almost sometimes can't even hear the dialogue.

Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
Well, and it's important to put out that sound design
is different from score, absolutely totally different.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Yeah, two totally different things.

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
And that's where it's important, because Christopher Nolan thinks of
that sound element as such its own thing, and in
Tenant you have those sound getting in the way of
so much actual conversation. Subtitles are necessary for this movie.
But then you step back and you see what he's
going for. And I think John David Washington, who I

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believe is the son of Denzel, Yeah, he I think
is a really really strong actor. Robert Pattinson, for me,
this was his comeback party. Nice because obviously there was Twilight,
and then it was sort of like, Okay, well, I'm
never I haven't seen Twilight.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
I don't want to see Twilight. I won't see Twilight.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
My wife love it, but you know, she has an
interesting taste. But listen, I think that Robert Pattinson, from
what we've seen in The Batman, is a very talented actor,
and I think he pulled off what Christopher Nolan was
going for in this psychological especially time though this time mystery,
and to.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Say much of it would give away what.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
All is happening in the moment, because I'm not sure
if you've seen Tenant I have not. Yeah, so I
don't want to give away too much, and to speak
too much about what exactly Nolan is doing with Time
would give that away, because it is truly we've been
talking about kind of lost in my mind and how
I look into mysteries and how I love movies that
really make you you research things and think and ask, Okay,

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what was a director trying to do here? What was
the idea of the people who made this product.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
Has to be executed in it though, and I had
to say that what you said when you first watched
it is exactly what happened to me with Tennant.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
You shouldn't get through it, couldn't get through it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
It did take me like about you know, I think
one weekend to the next weekend to get through it.
But then the second time it was all straight through
because I turned subtitles on and it was the sound
really that it caused it. The plot, I wouldn't say
it's straightforward, but it's it's confusing to the point where
it almost presented me a challenge. And I loved that
element where give me a little homework to do, give

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me a little bit of challenge, so that when I'm
taking the twenty minutes to drive home from a movie,
I'm taking that twenty minutes and I'm intensely thinking about
a what just happened, be what's going to happen if
the plot were to continue. I know the Interstellar is
a big one with that, right where you just wanted
to think about, Okay, what's going to happen next now
that you know she's on that planet? Yeah, And I

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think Tenant for me checked the boxes of letting my
mind wander and letting my imagination really sink its teeth
into what this movie was and what Christopher Nolan was
trying to do. And I think he nailed most of it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
Yeah, I just for me, I agree with you. I
like kind of seeing the vision of the director. It
has to hit I can't be forced to do extra
work for me to understand what you were trying to do, right,
So like, on that way, I view movies a little
bit differently. You have it's your job to give it

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to me, Right, It's your job to give it to me.
I'm the consumer. I'm paying whatever, either for a streaming
service or a movie ticket or whatever, to go to
go watch your movie. Your your job is to entertain
me and to give me that experience.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
I shouldn't have to go find other things to make
it as good of an experience as it positive.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
So, were you not entertained by Tennant? Not really? No,
I was not.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
It was a little too much. I was confused. I
mean a lot about confusion.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
Yeah, It's just I didn't get and I didn't care
enough about the story.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
They didn't make me care enough. That's fair to like.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
And the I'm all going back to characters I didn't know.
No one really kind of excited me with that, so
I was just like, okay, I don't know, there's no
point and getting like forcing myself to go through it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
That's fair.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
I was very much big on the John David Washington
train at the time, because I think that was when
there was an HBO show that had the Rock and
he was a sports agent in Miami Ballers, Thank you Bawlers.
I thought I was really big into the Baller show
at the time, and I thought it was a great show.
And John David Washington, I thought was killer in that show.

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So I was very much on his train. So I
was already bought into whatever he was doing. But then
I thought Robert Pattinson, I kind of just gave him
a chance the first time I saw it and said, okay,
you are a decent actor. And then the second time
I saw it after first time I saw it was
kind of like, Okay, I think I kind of get it.
Did the research second time, plus subtitles. After I had

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the understanding of what Christopher Nolan's trying to do here, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
Like, oh, okay, that makes a little more sense.

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
Considering x y Z given what he's trying to do
with time withholding that spoiler.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
So all that to say, it's a very controversial movie,
just like Lost is very controversial. That's why you like it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
But I like the thing where it just makes me
do work outside of the movie, and whether it's the
homework actually looking things up, reading things, or whether it's
the homework of just taking time to sit and think
about something.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
I liked that from this. I like that from Lost.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
I like products where they make you, they challenge you
as a viewer.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Chris, do you like to be challenged or do you
just like to that movie?

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
Consume sounded challenging and yeah, I just anybody told me
don't watch it, it's confusing, and I took their advice.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
And so far, I think what we've learned he Anderson
is that Christopher needs to watch more Christopher Nolan movies.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
Well, I guess it's the same name.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
I think what we've learned to be honest is are
and this is this is a good example. And I
think why it is US three is a very good
mix for a podcast because we Jackson who loves being
like confused and like putting the pieces together and like
having it to be as like everything going everywhere at once,

(01:31:03):
and then I'm like medium, I'll do that to a
certain extent, but if I have to like jump up
a level or do extra work what I love what
you said about you know, I like when it kind
of forces me to do that. I like it when
it's good enough to where I want to do that,
Like I want to learn more about the background of

(01:31:23):
something like great. Game of Thrones is a great example.
You can experience Game of Thrones on a pretty surface
level and still enjoy it, but you can if you
like it enough and get really invested in It's like, oh,
I'm gonna go look at the family tree. I want
to see all the stuff that happened there, and then
I want to go, you know, maybe read one of
the books and like invest yourself into the lower So
that's if you make me interested enough to the surface level,

(01:31:46):
I'm gonna go deeper.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
I just liked Tenant enough to do that. Yeah that's fair. Okay,
that's fair.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
And then Chris, I think is probably just on the
lower end in terms of liking confusing things.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Am I Am I wrong in that assessment? It's confusing?
I don't want to. I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Yeah, I mean, now if it's a good like, Okay,
I guess it's not confusing. But what's the film that
we were talking about with the James Bond character that
plays in them knives out? That wasn't confusing. It was
a good mystery and I was able to figure it
out at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
I saw it. That's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
But when you get into stuff going back in time
and that ain't making sense, and you in the movie
you're like, I watch it again, That's that's where I'm like, yeah,
I'm good. I should want to watch a movie and
to get to understand that, I might watch it again
to take different things, to get a different perspective, as
I did with Infinity.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
War first time.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
I was like, oh, Fantos an evil war lord that
wants to you know what, No, I see what you're doing, right,
It's not a bad idea.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
You just went the.

Speaker 4 (01:32:41):
Wrong way about it. Genocide. You're advocating for genocide.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
All I'm saying is Fanos had a point in that, right,
there are finite resources, and there are there's too much
bodies for the resources.

Speaker 1 (01:32:53):
That are He just he just had a bad way
of going Okay, he wasn't right. He was right. He
was right, he had he was the saying right. He
was right with his concept, he was with his execution
all the wrong way. Now, is there a right way
to let me have the universe? Probably not.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
There's a reason I have a fanos they it's not Bobblehead.
What are the colors things on my pop funk? As
a reason I have a a fanos funk.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
Your favorite character Marble to my dashboard, see your fairit
character in Marvel. Oh that is a very good question.

Speaker 5 (01:33:22):
Is saying that for the next episode? Yeah, next episode
Marvel Draft, by the way, so of just overall Marvel
Marvel movies. Yeah, oh fg, that's gonna be a monster
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
We'll have a lot to go over all. Right, So
Chris is gonna go home and watch Christopher Nolan movies.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
No, I'm gonna go home and finish. I gotta start
defensive film. So I gotta get some sports done, gotta
watch some film on the Seahawk defense, and then I
will probably stay. What time does he get home? Around
seven thirty seven fifteen?

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
I will problem.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
We've been going right now almost two hours I think, Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
An hour and a half. We gotta end this BS.
Oh yeah, well, we'll come back to you more next week.
We had fun. This is what happened. You have fun.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
This is good, this is this is kind of what
we set out for. Sorry, we went long, everybody. This
is hopefully going to be more like an hour each week,
but these drafts.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
Are foun and a half last week. Two yeah, all right,
that'll be it for Hollywood Weekly.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
Anderson Hurst, Christopher Kid, Let's tell everybody where they can
follow us on social media?

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
Christopher? Where can people follow your sea?

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
Kid?

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
To zero six? And that is on Twitter? C Kidd
two zero six? I feel you on that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Do you have a Insta, TikTok and snap.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
I do not have TikTok and Snapchat. I don't post
anything but old memory, so you don't really need to
see that. It's okay, No one cares to see me
seven years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
What about Instagram?

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Instagram is the same handle if you want to follow
me there, kid.

Speaker 4 (01:34:39):
Yeah, I don't have Instagram, I don't have Snapchat, I
don't have TikTok. I just have x Twitter and that's
just anders Hurst. But I'm mostly sports takes. But I'll
throw in a popped culture. Take every once in a while.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
As you should.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
I'm Jackson on radio wherever you look up except for TikTok,
which I will leave to the young kids who are
all again posting their Lost reactions. If you are have not.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Seen Lost, watch a lot. All right, I'm done. We're
done here, Hollywood. We move back. Next week.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
We'll do a Marvel draft. We'll talk about everything that
we're watching.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
We're off to watch black Sales. Go watch Lost. Everybody