Hollywood Weekly Ep. 20: Last Of Us, Originality, War Movies

Tonight on Hollywood Weekly, Jackson Felts, Anderson Hirst and Christopher Kidd talk about the season debut of The Last Of Us, Pedro Pascal's takeover, 28 Years Later's new trailer, then discuss the amount of money in original movies versus sequels, and then draft their favorite war movies of all time.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't care what you say. We are going to
be talking about the last of Us. We might we
might just lead off with that. I don't care that
you're not watching.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
That's fine.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
I don't have but you like you like zombie shows.
But yeah, I was turned off when I saw that
a kid was like the main character.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
I would not say a kid is the main character.
I mean, Andrews is late, he's so like we were
starting here, I haven't hit the open, but like we're starting,
but like I've never been this long. I would not
he played the video game. I would not say the
main character is a kid. One of the main characters
is a teenager.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
But like, and that's what turns me off. I don't
really care to see a teenager in this type of
film because I know they're gonna be killing zombies or
I just it's just not an attractive draw to me.
Like I hated Jurassic Park when the kids got involved,
I'm like, why, it was a great movie, and now
you're bringing these kids.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
You don't want to see the kids in danger.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
I just don't care for it doesn't it doesn't appeal.
I just don't dinosaurs. Oh, we can't kill the kids. Yes,
you can, like if you're that type of director, those
kids are gonna get eaten in the first five minutes
because they're kids. But for some reason they like to
make it all cute and sappy. But all we have
to save the kids and this it just ruins the
experience for me.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
All Right, we'll oop and anders when he gets here.
We're starting this.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Chris is violent team. I've never been this late. How
many shows have you started without me in the building?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh? Wait, zero, I'm not sure what to do with
my man. Yeah, I like them apples and you have.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
A part of my attention. Oh, you're not hearing about
You need to text him say we've started. Nope, I'm
not saying nothing because you said six o five.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
He's technically got one minute if you want to be funny. Yeah,
too bad, we're starting. When we chatted, you said, Chris
probably gonna be six o five. I said, bet.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Welcome everybody. Let's have everybody a weekly. We are right now, too,
hopefully soon to be three sports radio producers who finally
have a podcast to talk about something other than sports.
We're already talking Last of Us, which has started season two.
Chris like zombie shows, but isn't watching, which I think
is just sacrilege.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I'm not a video game guy, but I am watching
and it's great. Anders who's isn't here yet is a
video gang guy is watching and is loving still has
not walked through the door. Jackson Feltz, Christopher Kid, Anderson Hurst.
We are here to talk through movies and TV and
everything we're watching. We will get to Last of Us

(02:19):
and Pedro Pascal is kind of cooking right now because
Fantastic Four have a new trailer out.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
We'll talk about that.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
There's an interesting article from The Wall Street Journal on
how a lot of original movies are being made, but
even though they're being made, nobody's going to them, which
is kind of leads to everybody complaining about why does
everybody just making remakes and sequels? Well, because people go
to those. And one of those, Chris as we start
things off before Andrews hops in here is one of

(02:48):
the kind of most hyped movies of twenty twenty five
that a lot of people are talking about, and it's
kind of the sequel onto this what is it? It's
twenty It was twenty eight days, twenty eight weeks, twenty
eight whatever, And there's a new twenty eight later coming out,
and you sent this trailer on there. It's one of
the few zombie things you do.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Like, yeah, it's it's I just I'm a big fan
of horror, as you and Anderson know. I just like
being scared and realizing, Okay, maybe this could be a reality.
Chances are zombies don't exist. But spirituality stuff, Okay, we
know that exists. So I get why Jackson's like, yeah, no,
I'm not interested in watching about ghost No, I'll pass,

(03:29):
But stuff like this it's entertaining. And I just I
blame my mom, you know, shouts to my mom. She
got me in on horror films and blood and good
and violence.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
You love yourself these horror movies.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I do.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
So when I saw the trailer for I was like, okay, cool,
it's been a while twenty eight weeks later, I think,
came out in two thousand and seven.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Long time.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
So I'm gonna, actually, what I'm gonna do over the weekend.
I'm gonna go back and watch these films because I
want to be reminded of what's to come.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Because it's been years.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I'm not out here watching twenty eight weeks once a month,
as I do with Rush Hour two. That's just not
something I'm doing. So twenty eight years later, the cast
of this is crazy. Jody Comer, Aaron Taylor Johnson, who
I want to be the next James Bond, Ray fines
it's like he's killing Murphy in there as well. I know,
I think I'm wrong on that one, but but I
mean like it has a great cast and like overall,

(04:19):
I mean a lot.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Of people hype up this movie series to be something
very special. I've never seen any of them. So I
guess my question you is from your memory of the
two thousand and seven movie, is it more Well, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Go back to two thousand and two, that was the
first one days later. Is it more horror or is
it more.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
You know, zombie apocalypse type movies.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
I think zombie apocalypse different zombie apocalypse. And I understand
exactly where you're going with because horror it involves like
more scared zombies. I don't like jumpstairs and only horror movies,
not one of those. You just know there's zombies and
people are made to eating alive. That's really what it is.
It's literally a post of populi horror film, but I
think to your point, it's more just about the zombi.

(05:00):
So twenty eight Ka's later that, Yeah, that came out
in two thousand and two. So I only thing I
remember is do walking out of the hospital and like
a blue you know, the blue gown that you wear. Yeah,
he's like looking around, like what the hell. So I
might have to go back and watch that one first.
I just remember that's the first one, So I have
two films to watch before I'm all caught up again
because it's been so freaking long. But I do remember
they were entertaining at you know, in two thousand and two.

(05:21):
I was a teenager, so it was a little scary.
Actually I was younger than that.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
I was gonna say, wait a second, yeah, seven year
so excuse me.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
But it's just one of those films that with zombie films,
you can only make so many of them before you're like,
all right, well, what can you do differently?

Speaker 2 (05:35):
And I thought, for the most part, there.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Have been really really good ones, like Donald the Dead
that was like, oh my gosh, these zombies are fast.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
And the whole thing here is the fact that like
twenty eight days weeks now years Yeah, it's sort of
the element of let's look at the zombie apocalypse. Reality
of the situation at different stages in the apocalypse is
sort of the idea because I, again I've never seen them.
I've seen the trailer of this h it looks good.
I feel the horror element. But at the same time,

(06:05):
I also pick up on that it isn't a full
blown sort of like you know what was it?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
I am legend the Will Smith movie, Okay, zombie, So
that was that was a zombie apocalypse movie. It was
not a.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Horror movie, but it had horror elements. New draft coming
horror movies, no favorite zombie movies.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I don't think enough for that.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
You're kidding me.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
He just went through like three office It's not enough
for me for that. Oh that's a fair point.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
I just do I only a few of my lists. Yeah,
I have a few of my lists, but I wouldn't
have enough on my list.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
You have to see him. I don't just go on
Google and be like, what's the top rated ones?

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Well, do we think that it's going to take twenty
eight years for anders to actually get it? Will be
twenty eight shows later before Andrews actually had at this point.
I did text him.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
For what it's worth. I think he's on the toilet.
I think he's dropping a deuce. You know you got
my the text that I just sent him then.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
I think he did, but he doesn't want to say
I'm on the toilet. I said, we're rolling in d
and that was five minutes ago. He hasn't showed up yet. Yeah,
we're just gonna keep going. Maybe we'll come back to
the Last of Us because obviously it's no you have
to because I know you and him are excited about it,
that it's a great jumping off point. I assumed by
the time we finished talking about twenty eight years later.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
That we'd be able to sorry, he let you down here.
You know what, He's only going to poo this.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
So while we're talking before we get to the other
Pedro Pascal and Pedro Pascal is kind of the hottest
thing maybe on planet Earth right now, like when you
think about the big stars on Earth, like Pedro Pascal
right now is in maybe the hottest show going in
Last of Us, and he's gonna be the superstar of
one of the movies of the year, if not the

(07:35):
movie the year. Fantastic four. New trailer comes out for
Fantastic four this morning, And for me, Chris, like, I
know you're also a Marvel guy. Maybe you've dropped off
a bit. I know Andrews is papooing the whole thing. Hey,
look who finally decided to show up. Wow, you know
we've been We've been going for quite a while. Right now,
he was talking about twenty eight years later. As Anders

(07:57):
leaves the room again, listen, over all, like, Pedro Pascal
is the hottest thing going and Fantastic four, this latest
trailer that just came out, it kind of just highlights
him so much of him. We finally see his superhero
power as the stretching ability of mister Fantastic. But what
the heck are you playing? But overall, I mean, like,
I think there's not too much to react to other

(08:19):
than the fact that Pedro Pascal is going to be
highlight and everything. And as Andrews plugs in his headphones,
we just got done talking about twenty eight weeks twenty
eight years later, the new Zombie Apocalypse movie coming out,
And it's a great kind of jumping off point to
then continue talking about the other Zombie Apocalypse show, as
we also kind of loop in the Pedro Pascal conversation

(08:40):
of Last of Us season two beginning and I think
beginning quite well. Anders, Yeah, oh that's not your mic.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
This my apologies. So first of all, I would like
to apologize. No one came and got me. Chris just
really quietly slipped out the text. You didn't text phone
left before I did. No, I didn't. I was sitting
at my desk.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
We definitely weren't.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
You definitely were not. What Yeah, we we both came
over here, like where's and you went somewhere. You said
you're taking a poop.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
You left got a beer, so that was in the kitchen.
So well, we didn't see you because Jackson also walked
by and there was no disk didn't. I didn't look
in the kitchen anyways, you were not in the kitchen,
all right, you were gone.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
You went somewhere. I apologize. Then I just came back
and like you.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Asked me something, and then you walked towards Rich's office
and then at that moment and.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
You confirm that you've taken a poop in the last hour. No, well,
then Chris, you were wrong.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
I don't know where you went, but you took piss
when I first got here, but that was when you
were still on the air. You walked towards Rich's office,
and then it was like kick all right, Moving on.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Last of Us Season two has begun. Piedro a Pascal,
hottest thing on planeted Earth, hottest.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Thing right now. I don't know Glen Powell over him,
but that's just that's a.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Good de be. But I mean, at the very moment
right now, fantastic for a couple of months away. Last
of Us just starting paid to a Pascal. As season
two begins has been aged up by a like ten years.
I'll just quickly I thought it's a great good to
great somewhere in between start to season two. I didn't
play the video game. You did play the video game. So,

(10:12):
without spoiling too much, what do you think of the
start to season two?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, this will be the start of many episodes. I
assume until it happens that I really advised Chris to
start watching this show because he loves zombies. You were
talking about that to start. Obviously, it doesn't make sense
to me. Yeah, I don't know, I don't understand it.
I'm not a huge zombies guy. I watched The Walking Dead.
I think seasons one and two were really good. Season
three kind of fell off a little bit and I

(10:38):
kind of lost interest after that. But Last of Us.
Maybe it's my nostalgia for playing the video game, but
I just think it's elite television. Great story, great setting.
Everything is extremely well done. So if you haven't watched it,
I'm sure you have. It's one of the hottest things
on TV right now, so go check it out. The
Last of Us. It's as of now, the best video

(11:00):
game made into a movie slash TV show. I think
more of those will end up coming. Yeah, I think
season two started well, it's pretty much a carbon copy
of The Last of Us Part two. I think there's
a couple of things that are like small differences that
we'll have to see how it plays out, whether I can,

(11:21):
you know, say that that's a good thing or not.
I'm not going to go into super detail because I
do believe Chris is going to start watching it. He
tells me he is not, but I think Chris, I
think he is. It's so it's so well made. I
think he is.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
And you watch them necessarily, okay, but like it's it's different.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
If a porno is well made. What what makes that
well made?

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I don't know. The corny scene leading up to it,
Oh god, right, you're a doctor?

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Is it like a little role play? It's a little cheesy, like, hey,
the plumbers like the cheesy. Yeah, the plumbers here to
loosen up.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Here.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
The ratio of Chris watching the story to Chris watching
the actual sex is like nine to one.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Let's get to the shot.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Okay, So because the thing is it's partially a joke
but also partially like, what makes a very good either
way is the writing and the acting. I think a
lot of times, right, and the writing and acting in
Last of.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Us is so high.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, and they take clearly so much from the video game.
But at the end of the day, it comes back
to just I think, the characters and the way they're written,
and then the chemistry between Bella Ramsey and Pedro Pascal
and and I mean listen to Bella Ramsey playing Ellie.
I mean her teenage angst meter is through the roof.
I mean, it's almost too much for me to stand.

(12:41):
It's just like, come on, grow the hell up, like
act like an adult. You've been through so much. Stop
being a little kid. But the fact of the matter is,
and you can kind of speak to this like this,
it draws from the video game, where I think it
more emphasize and this is why the show gets a
pass in this regard. And I can't gripe about it
because she is a kid, and she is still acting

(13:03):
like a kid in both, you know, in both areas
the film and the video game. So you kind of
just got to embrace the way the character was designed.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, And I'll be the first to admit when they
announced the original cast for the Last of Us, I
thought Paedri Pascal was a good choice, and I originally
always bought into him. I think that was perfect. Good casting.
Bella Ramsey as Ellie was a question mark for me.
I didn't know. I was unfamiliar with her game as
they say, but I think Ashley Johnson now Elliott Johnson.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
The voice, that's right.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, but it's a motion capture, so it's a it
looks like them in the video game, and I say
them because they are oh okay, yeah yeah, but like
you know who it is? She played Juno? Yeah, of course,
who else?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
What was that show that there was a.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I have it wrong.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I haven't Bello Academy.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I have it wrong.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
It wasn't Elliott Page.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
No, no, see that's who I thought it was. But
it's good. I could see the resemblance very clearly the
video game. Yeah. Yeah, maybe they made the character kind
of after her, but the voice was not. It was
Ashley Johnson. Anyways, moving on. Sorry, I got a couple
things mixed up, but I was questionable whether Bella Ramsey
was the right choice. Yeah, on Ellie, and she absolutely

(14:28):
nailed it in season one for me, and I almost
think in the start of season two. It's only been
one episode, but she's already surpassing what I had in
the video game in terms of the acting job. You
can tell. And so the Last of Us Part one
came out in twenty thirteen, so it's a pretty old game.

(14:48):
Last was Part two. I think it was twenty nineteen.
Let me look, Yeah, it was a long time.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Has a Part three come out?

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Video game wise? And they have, I think they've twenty
twenty seven years later. Was one? Part two came out, so,
which is actually weird because they made Part two and
then right after that they made the show for Part
one obviously with the Peedro Pascal and Bell Ramsey. Anyways,
I've told you guys the story multiple times. Part two
is extremely divisive amongst last of us fans. I will

(15:20):
wait to give you guys my full thoughts on the
video game after we get into the what actually happens
in season two show. But it's crazy how it was
universally loved the first first game, which is the first season.
It's the exact same story. There's slight changes. I mean

(15:41):
the Bill and Frank, they just expanded that. I don't
even consider that a change. I just think, oh, this
was basically what was going on, which didn't show it
in the game. Yeah, so that's basically how I take that.
And so they took a copy and paste of what
worked for part one part two. I am very curious
to how different they take it, because it got I
don't want to say bags, it's very mixed. There are

(16:02):
a lot of people that really liked it, but a
lot of people that did not.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
On that note, the biggest plot change, and Craig Mason
and that whole crew who do it, the person who
voiced Joel in the video game. They have a great
podcast that's kind of a companion podcast or the show,
and they very up front. How instantly, at the start
of season two for the television show, they make an
immediate change by revealing the background of Abby, who is
the new character who's kind of you know, you mentioned

(16:27):
how divisive it is. I think it's I don't know
any spoilers, but at least I do know that one
of the reasons it's divisive is because of Abby and
the actress who's taking over that role. I really like
she was in BookSmart, very very good actress. We'll see
how that plays into it. But overall, we're already seeing
small changes from the video game to the show.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
But overall, the story.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
That is in you know, Jackson Hole, Wyoming, that story
appears to be staying the same Anders And I think,
once again, I mean, I can have these small gripes,
and you know, they are very small. What makes the
show great is the writing, and is the acting. And
I have zero complaints through so far because it is
just such high quality level. And the chemistry between the characters,

(17:13):
you know, Isabellamer said comes into a cast Dina right
data and she is fantastic Lasso in the video, great character,
and the chemistry already with Belle Ramseys Elley is so high,
and it just feels like we picked up right.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
What I love is that we picked up right where
you left off.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
And they jumped five years, but it doesn't feel like
we went to a different world as much. It just
feels like a progression side of the world. And it
was just because my wife and I ended up we
watched some of season one and we ended up watching
the last two episodes Sunday morning leading into Sunday night's premiere,
and it just felt like a.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Flawless Tua situation.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
And I love shows that were you know, if you
were binging it and you didn't watch season one and
you did it right before season two started, there is
no letup. You just roll right in and it doesn't
feel like you lost any little bit of time at all.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
I love that. So on that note, the one kind
of I don't want to say gripe because I want
to know your thoughts about this first. But it's five
years later. Do you see a resemblance in five years
later in terms of Ellie's character, because I did not.
I think she looks basically the same.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Oh I think I think they did.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
They change her hair different, They changed her hair and
she attached.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
The subtle hair change. It was very subtle, but like,
you know, they do this in I know you guys
don't watch, but The White Lotus where in the last
episode they change a girl's hairstyle and it completely flips
flips your brain about the character of a character. And
it was just like, yeah, she's different now, and seeing
the subtle hair difference from Ellie. And also just like

(18:50):
the first scene she has is where she's fighting boys
and it's just you know, don't pull your punches right,
and and that first scene with Belle Ramsey as Ellie
sort of just the here the attitude, I'm like, yeah,
I feel that she has aged five years.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Okay, personally, I think with the attitude for sure, I
just I'm talking straight looks. I think there needs to
be a little bit more done. Maybe I'm a little
nitpicky there because I think in the video game they
did an excellent job of like the first game was like, oh,
she's a what fourteen year old girl? And now she's
a nineteen year old girl. So I think those are
two totally different things. But I think the attitude definitely plays.

(19:26):
I noticed a tattoo. I think that's to cover up
her bite she had on her arm, So that's kind
of one of the reasons why she did that. But
I think it's another reason is because she's entering that
stage of her life where she wants to make her
own decisions exactly so, and you're starting to see that
in the episode one, and I think that's one of
the reasons her and Joel's relationship looks a lot overall.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Let's let's wrap because I want to bring Chris back
in here, because he's just sitting there.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Talk about this.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
I would probably give episode one probably an eight point five.
It's a very small thing, maybe a nine, but it's
just it's such a nice just right back into that world.
Give me nine more episodes because Max right now is
just killing it. Chris, you love Harry Potter, the book,
the book, but you never watched the movie.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Why Why didn't If you love the book, why wouldn't
you want to watch it?

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Because sometimes I don't want to watch a movie on
a kid's book that I was reading another kid. I
just even though it was a kid's book doesn't mean
it's a bad thing. As I got older, I just
didn't see the need. I didn't care anymore about it.
When I was thirteen, it was like one of the
coolest books ever.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
But I think it's still one of the coolest books ever.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, to read, but I don't want to see it
as a movie. It just doesn't make you shit and
wizard stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
So you never watched the movies. HBO Max is coming
out with a new Harry Potter TV series, and we
don't know how long it's going to be yet, but
we have the cast announcement before I give you any names.
You didn't watch the movies, you're fresh slate. When it
comes to seeing it on the screen, would you will
you watch the actual TV series?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Then? Probably not?

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Not?

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Why Jesus, because the same thing. It's just you guys
all read Curious George, right the book. You didn't think, oh,
let's go see the movie totally, that's ridiculous, the principle
behind it.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
It's nuts. Well, it's a kid I still watch Avatar,
The Last Airbender. It's a kids Harry Potter.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I would also not say it's like a kid's book
like Curious George's Coming of Age a teenage book.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
I would say, Okay, well, I need to find a
teenage book that we all wead that has been depicted
to a movie because that just holes, don't Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Holes is an outstanding movie and it was a great book.
Syle buffets too much hate that you don't. You know
it's gonna get redone to shit. It's gonna turn into
his TV series and listen, I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
But like the story is so good turned into him
ten ten episode mini series. I watched it. They leaves alone.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
It's a great movie to hit. That's what I'm saying. Alone,
just don't see it, right? Do you read the book?

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Saw the movie?

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Was it peaches and onions?

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Was that what it was?

Speaker 1 (21:57):
The things that make the shoes didn't stink? Onions and
onions and peaches. Those are the flavors I think, correct
me if I'm wrong. Shoes, recipe, recipe, onions and peaches,
and that's what I'm sticking. Patricia Arquette was fantastic in
that role. I mean seriously, though, ut Peanut butter Falcon,

(22:24):
Peanut Shilah buff and Peanut Butter Falcon is one of
the best acting jobs.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
If you haven't, oh man, Yeah, such a good movie,
really serious.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
But Harry Potter, that's I think it's a it's a
it's a case where you know, if you aren't gonna
watch it, at least give it the first episode.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Give it the first episode the hour of your life.
How you feel about.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Those shows like Temptation Island, That's how you would feel
about a Harry Potter zero.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I just have no interest.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
All right, well, let's get to it. So overall we
have the cast officially announced. John Lithgow, who's been in
a thousand things. He was just in Conclave. He will
be playing Albus Dumbledore.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Interesting younglore right, very very well at the age it
was pretty what's the premise of the show.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
I think it's just the exact book series what it
is the book series it's not, and they're redoing the
book series into a TV show. That's just that's the
idea here. That's what HBO Max has marketed. That's what
they bought onto, that's what they bought the rights from JK.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Rowling to do.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
That is their idea is to build this into a
whole TV show that basically redes the movies, even though
they were just done, you know, in the last twenty years,
which is ridiculous. Janet McTeer is playing professional mcgonagallop.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
See, I just can't see anyone else's those characters.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
I'm sorry. I will say I do like Nick Frost
from all of the Shawn of the Dead and Hot
Fuzz movies. You guys remember Nick Frost from all those
He is playing Hagrid, which I do like because I
love Nick Frost. Luke Thalan playing Quarrel and Paul Whitehouse
playing Argus Filch. I'm not sure if any of them
is gonna work. But like I am going to say

(24:09):
this because I try to watch everything just because also
it helps with this podcast. I will watch the first
episode of this. I like John Lithgow as well, and
if it sucks, it sucks. But like, I think there's
gonna be a lot of people now just watch the
start of it just to see if it's any good.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Okay, See, I thought this was gonna be like, oh, okay,
it's a spinoff, right, like the same story. No, this
is an absolute no for me, absolute no. Imagine if
they tried to remake Lord of the Rings, now.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Well that's the idea. There was an idea to do
that before they did Rings of Power.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
See, like I hate Rings of Power and I like
that more than trying to redo something that's already a masterpiece.
And I don't. I think Harry Potter movies are good.
They're not elite, but they're good. They're really good movies.
And like I prefer Star Wars, I prefer Lord of
the Rings to Harry Potter. But no, no, absolute no

(25:03):
for me, this is just an app.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
App No, no, I'm gonna I'm gonna be going. Well,
have to watch what you say it's one hour in
the office.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
No, no, god, no, watch the movies, Michael, Michael, you
need to watch the movies. Though. I just the injuries
level is like zero point zero. The music was so good, William.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
And like and like that's a thing that there is
zero chance the TV show has any hope of Matt.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
You're telling me you're gonna find a Harry Potter this
as good as Daniel Radcliffe. What you won't. You're gonna
tell me you're gonna find a Snape as good as
Alan Rickman, which you won't. You're gonna tell me you're
gonna find professor McGonagall as good as what's her name?

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Famous actress.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
I am so upset that I missed this. Maggie Smith
Maggie Smith. Yes, you're gonna tell me, you're gonna find
out Boldemort. That's as good as Ray Find. I think,
yeah recently, if you did.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Somebody google that Maggie Smith dead, I think it's r P.
I'm feel real bad.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yes, she's September twenty seventh. Yeah, anyways, but Ray Find,
you're gonna find a better Voldemart than Ray Finds. No, No,
there's the answer is no.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
But people will watch because you know why people will
watch Andrews because there's a thing going on now in
Hollywood where people don't watch original projects and they just
watch the sequels and the continuations and the redo's and
all that means.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
It was a great article.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
I send you guys this from the Wall Street Journal
that actually did a deep dive into why, you know,
in people's habits. I mean, there's this new you know,
I think it is a kind of a horror movie
Chris called Drop and it opened to seven point five
million domestically, which is obviously terrible. And you look at
overall what other even just bad you know, redo movies

(26:51):
are doing, and like you overall right right now, they
did kind of look at all of the original movies
Mickey Seventeen, Alto Nights, Apples, Fly Me to the Moon,
Amazon's Red One, and then you had Horizon, American Saga,
and Megalopolis, all these original movies and they did horrible
at the box office, just horrible. What's making money is

(27:13):
all of the sequels and all of the redo projects
and all of that. And there's this kind of this
great article here that you can dive into that talks
about why is Hollywood making all these is because those
are the ones making money. And that isn't to say
that original projects aren't being made. A ton of original.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Projects success are being made tons more than ever.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Statistically, there are more original movies on a year basis
than there has ever been last year, but they just
aren't making money. And honestly, as moviegoers, it's our fault
for not going and spending money to see them, because
and this goes for everybody listening, like, if we don't
go see these original movies, then this just further hammers

(27:56):
home the point of these other things making the money
and get more reduced.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
So my question is when did that start? Because I
feel like when I ask a question during like the
twenty tens, there's a lot of original stuff that people
went and went and saw. I think MCU you could
you would count the MCU as a original.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Even though it's just SQL after SQL.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Ye're right, but I mean it's a it's it's an
original idea. It's not a remake or sure.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
But yeah, I mean now it's just turned into Now
I get what you're saying until endgame my point exactly.
Uh but was it COVID No, I think it was
way before COVID. We've been we've been talking about this
being a problem, I think for at least a decade.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
But like I'm thinking, I think I can think of
tons of movies that came out in the twenty tens
that I were wildly successful and that I enjoyed. Like
you look at the the Glass Onion Knut knives out.
It's a great example.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Even that even that, you know, was word of mouth
to pick up at the box office. It wasn't an instantaneously.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
That's how pew, that's how you get success. Today. I
think people are so done with the I think because
so many of these actually now these I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
It's hard because I wonder if it's when comedies died,
because there was a certain point where comedy movies truly died,
and it was kind of like around twenty ten right
where we really didn't get great comedies and there was
a big hole in the moviegoers sphere. And I wonder
if that element has turned into well, we want to
go to movies and see something.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Where comedies ever really that big at the theater though.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
I think I see I remember Napoleon Dynamite was a
word of mouth one where, like you know, where it
was just sort of like everybody's talking, you have to
see this, And then I think you've had a lot
like that. I think super Bad it was a lot
like that. It Knocked Up was a lot like that
Stepbrothers was. I mean, everything that Will Ferrell and John
c Riley did Taladegonites included was sort.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Of like, all right, these two are the comedic geniuses.
You have to see it.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Those other guys those just don't exist anymore.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
There is there isn't.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
There isn't like a I don't think and listen, there
are many comedic geniuses, but I'm talking about comedic geniuses
in the film sphere. There isn't that right.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Now, And they if they are there, they haven't got
the cachet that someone like a Will Ferrell has, which
you know, people have varying opinions on him even but
it's still like, you know, you have to kind of
have three or four successful like, oh, those are great movies.
I think the one that is that it's not a comedy,
it's Jordan Peele. Right now, any Jordan Peele movie that

(30:28):
comes out is an insane hit in the theater. So
I think that's that's a good example of something that's
happening right now where you just have to have a
couple of really good ones that a lot of people like, Yeah,
and you're gonna We're gonna have that. We just don't
have that many, like Chrish, any Christopher Nolan movie Oppenheimer
incredibly popular, right again, directors probably rule a lot of

(30:50):
that dact exactly. And then people look at Daneville nuve
with June.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
You know what, even though it's a remake, this is
interesting because kind of loop it right back around to
the original conversation Chris, I do wonder for twenty eight
years later, which is a sequel, but the last movie
was two thousand and seven, wildly popular series. How this
movie does twenty eight years later at the box office.
I think we'll be really telling twenty years later coming out.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah, that's gonna be make or break because there's probably
more that they could add to this story, like what
has happened in those last it does well, I think
they was probably watched dividual.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I did, but it's been years. It came out in
two thousand and two. Did you like it?

Speaker 1 (31:28):
I did like it, but it's been where you're going
to go from twenty eight years later, you can go
to twenty eight decades later.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
I don't know what they're going to be futuristic, maybe
maybe twenty eight years later.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yes, yeah, well that's pretty cool it Yeah, oh hang
on it to so No, it's not twenty eight years
twenty thirty.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
But still the idea. And I'll in the sequel department.
If this does well, it's just more proof of like,
regardless of how well it may have done at the time,
the sequel, the whole element of that. That's just that's
what audiences are hanging to see right now.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah. I think it's it's an easy of access thing
too for me, because for people to spend the money,
like take the time, it takes a long time for
a lot of people to go to the theater, go
find parking sometimes with families, get everyone give everyone with
their all their busy, hectic schedules figured.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Out everybody has a second job these days.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
But if it's for a movie that you all know
is gonna be good and you all know that you
want to all go see Top Gun, Maverick was a
great example of that, everyone like put aside time, Oh yeah,
we have to go see that. That You're not just
gonna go to a movie just to go to a
movie now, it has to be something that you know
and that you've heard is good, that has this like cachet.

(32:46):
Like I said, I think it's the word I keep
coming back to. So I think the level of the
level it takes a movie in order for people to
go to the movie theater is a higher bar now
than it used to be.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
I sent you speaking of original movies, I send you,
guys a trailer for The Roses, which has a really
good cast. Benedict Cumberbatche and Olivia Coleman play a married
couple that are going through a breakup and it is
a comedy in that department and you know, two absolute
powerhouse actors. It's also you know, helped out by Andy
Samberg and Kate McKinnon, formerly both of A Saturday Night Live.

(33:22):
And it's sort of one of those original movies where
I'm gonna go see it and I'm gonna spend money
to see it in the theater because that's sort of like,
all right, it's a original comedy where if you can
hit it, then I want to support original comedies. I
saw Bottoms in the theater, and I just I want
to support original comedy because at the end of the day,
going back to it, it's true, if we as moviegoers

(33:43):
don't support the original products where we see the trailers
and we say that looks good, I'm want to support that.
Then there. I know there's more and more originals being made,
but I do worry that at a certain point maybe
they do slow down because it's just not where the
money's at. So I gotta go support the roses.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
I think it looks hilarious.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
I think that's a admirable stance for me, I think,
and this could be the case for a lot of people.
We've been burned by so many good trailers that turn
into crap movies through we do, and I think it's
the art of how good they've got, how good they've gotten,
and making trailers now arguably good. I still think they

(34:22):
need to reveal less about the movie and all the
best lines, especially in comedies.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
And I worry about that with the Roses because the
trailer is so good. There's such great lines in the trailer.
I'm gonna again, I'm going to pay to go see it.
But I do worry about that exact thing.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, yeah, And that's the thing with comedies. I think
it's like, okay, so much of it is comedic timing
and like, oh, I've never seen this movie, and like
the best for me comedic movie watching experiences are movies
that came out ten years ago that I never saw
and I always wanted to see. It's like, oh, I'll
turn it on and like, oh my god, this is
way funnier than I ever expected. I don't know anything
about it, right, so watching a trailer thinking oh, that

(35:00):
looks funny, and then like oh yeah, I remember that
line the trailer, ha ha ha. Then nothing else all.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Right, transitioning really quick. I don't got two more about
what I've been watching a lot of it was Last
of Us catch up. I've been working through Mad Men
season five, which is continuing to be fire. You know,
I really kept wondering why so many people were telling
me you have to watch this, you have to watch this,
why you love it? And through season five, now I
finally get it. Great storytelling, amazing acting, the writing is

(35:28):
more on The writing is more on point in season
five than at any point previously. Absolutely in love with
the series. Now it's flying up my rankings through season five.
So that's other than that, and the Last of Us
catching up and getting ready for and Or, which is
five days away. That's kind of all I've been doing.
Let's continue to go around the room before our draft.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah, same thing with me. Last of Us is taking
the front seat of everything. I'm gonna watch that as
as it comes out on Sunday. Did the same thing
a little bit later than I thought I would get
to on previous Sunday. But me and my wife are
going through Modern Family just so good right now. God,
every every joke hits incredibly hard. I think it's the

(36:08):
first time I've actually watched it front to back. I've
watched a lot of episodes just randomly, but it's the
first time I've watched it in succession, and I actually
really like the way they do the character arcs and
stuff like that. Philae just my favorite character take is
an amazing dad, terrible husband.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Can we do sitcom either dads or sitcom characters for that?
I think I think there's enough sitcoms characters, character characters
build build a show out of sitcom. I don't know,
I'm just brainstorming right now. We can talk about this, Chris,
what are you been watching?

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Finished Temptation Island? Great?

Speaker 3 (36:47):
I've been on TikTok watching the girls react and it's
just it's just been so entertaining. And then Camp Cretaceous
on Netflix Kids show Funny.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
You know it's a dinosaur show.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah, it's about It's Jurassic Park with about these five
kids that get lost Cretaceous.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
That's funny. Was a Jurassic Park. It's supposed to be
like in Lore? Is it in Jurassic Park? Lor?

Speaker 1 (37:08):
I believe it's based off the book or Cannon, so
it is canon, yes, but I haven't read the book
a long time ago. I don't remember anything about this.
But any who, canon events, it's a fun little series.
They're all twenty one minutes. I'm on season five. It
came out like three years ago, but they dropped seasons.
I want to say, like every.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Quarter, Drastic World Camp, Critaceous.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah, yeah, I think it came out in twenty it's
really high reviews. Dam No, it's it's it's you know,
it's cheesy, but it's good, you know, animated. Yeah, kids
get lost on an I and you watch that and
not Harry Potter.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah, I remember. I like dinosaurs. I don't really care
for a matter.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Cast here Jenna Ortega, Stephanie Beatriz.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
That looks really good. It's I'm not gonna lie. I
love myself a good kids show.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
It's me and my wife have been plugging through it
like we'll finish it season in the night, you know,
because it's like, oh, we want to see it.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
It is part of the Jurassic. It is victual lore.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
It's it's entertaining. You know, kids get left on an
island with dinosaurs and they gotta what do we do?

Speaker 2 (38:05):
No one? Actually really cool, so Haley Joel Osmon. Yeah,
but that's that's what we've been watching. Nice cool.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
I think with that we talked enough about other things.
Let's get to our draft.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Let's do it. War movies.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
You're gonna have it's not a.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Body India palettl I was closet love Georgetown. All right,
war movies sponsor us?

Speaker 1 (38:31):
There has been seriously, Oh actually that's a decent idea
something they might actually do.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
What are you doing? O? It is? Uh like explosion?
It's not bad. Actually it's pretty good. Right thet not bad?
Chris not bad? That was not bad? At are my bad?

(39:02):
Continued Jackson.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Imagine how is somebody who's really like reading the podcast
is like they're listening right.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Now, Like no one reads those? No I actually do?
Really yeh? Because you said it, You're like, how different
is it than what we actually said?

Speaker 1 (39:19):
All right, there's been so many great war movies, especially
over the last decade. Uh, and I think this is
gonna be a fun draft. Is we all kind of?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Also? What constitutes a war movie? Because so many times
you use the word war movie and you think either
World War two.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Or the Afghanistan and you think of just those two wars.
But what constitutes a war movie? What counts as a
war movie? That's gonna be an interesting question here as
we really dive into war movies before we get going.
Anybody have else ready before we do our random number generator?

Speaker 2 (39:51):
I'm ready to go.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
All right, let's start with Chris this time. Chris, you're
gonna get number three, and you're gonna get number one.
I get number two.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yes, so happy and take it away number one pick.
I know I probably could get this next round. Oh
you're not taking the obvious one. I'm not, Holy smokes,
I'm not taking the obvious one. So you get it.
But I you know my thought process. You lost the
draft already? No, No, I did not.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I actually people voting people don't know what they're voting on.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
So yeah, I think this is sorry, far and away
the best war movie of all time. It's Apocalypse now,
that's all. It's a great movie.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, it's a great movie.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
I have a pretty significant margin.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Now.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
I love my number two as well. I won't get it.
I love my number two. But I have an affinity
for Vietnam movies. And I think it's because it has
a different, different feel to it for me. Because the
thing about Apocalypse now that makes it as good as
it is is. And we did our villain movie or

(41:07):
a villain draft last week. You could have easily picked
Colonel Kurtz as one of the best villains, and I
should have honestly put him in at least my honorable mentions.
So I'm a little upset that I didn't. But the
thing about Apocalypse now that makes it so much ahead
of everything else, I think it kind of puts it
into this perspective of Colonel Kurtz versus Kilgore and the

(41:31):
two total opposite viewpoints on what going to war is like.
And basically the whole Vietnam War is the main character
in this movie. It's not the I don't even remember
the guy's name the main character, what Martin Sheen or yeah,
Martin Sheen, I don't remember his name, but because that's

(41:51):
the main guy that's in at the entire movie. But
it's not because he's not the main character. The main
character is the war and how people are reacting to
the war, how people are experiencing this awful thing that
they know is just this stupid conflict that doesn't mean anything.
That it's all of these ways to kind of what's

(42:16):
the word I'm looking for, coexist with being in this
space that's just a terrible, you know, life ending experience.
And you got Kilgore who's trying to do as much
as he can to bring in American culture to every
single part of the war. Like when he captures a beachhead,

(42:39):
it's all about so he can have waves and have
a good space for surfing. And then he has a
cookout like American cookout with people are tossing the football.
You have a sermon reading like he's trying to bring
in American culture as much as poss to distract yourself
from what you're actually doing. And then you have Colonel Kurtz,
who's the exact opposite. Yeah, and he thinks like you

(43:02):
should make a friend of fear, because fear, if it's
not your ally, it's something to be feared. Fear and
what's this atrocity or something like that. He thinks you
need to take out passion, you need to take out
feeling about feeling for these things. It's it's just so

(43:25):
there's so many psychological aspects to Apocalypse now for me,
that gives it what it is. And honestly, when I
first watched it, it was not the same as when
I've watched it recently and having a greater understanding for it,
has given me like it didn't used to be on
my top five, but now it's a clear number one.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
It's a great movie. I know I had a number
five for me, and it's just it's an outstanding war movie.
And I think that contrasting element of seeing both sides
of war and seeing the way people approach war. I
think you nailed it with the psychology of the ps
psychological aspect of how the movie sense it. The story
tells the elements of war through that contrast. Is so good,
so service by the way, he looked at a deserved

(44:10):
number one pick for me. Number two is going to
be Saving Private Ryan, just for you mentioned John Williams earlier.
The score and Saving Private Ryan is its own character.
It's just phenomenal again, the storytelling and the journey, the writing,
and just the brue realities of war, of World War

(44:31):
two and of that whole situation. They really it's one
of the few war movies that actually made me sick
because it just it. I mean, there are certain scenes
in that movie that are so heart it's more than
heart like. There's obviously war movies have lots of heartbreaking scenes.
It's a very common thing for war movies to break

(44:51):
your heart in a lot of different ways, but the
ones that break your heart will also wrench your gut.
Those I think are the ones that are the best.
And for me, Saving Private Ryan nails that so many
different times. They really do a weld. I think sound
mixing in that movie is really perfect. They fit in
John Williams when he needs it, but just the ways

(45:14):
they they they mix in what it would be like
to almost be there alongside Captain Miller Tom Hanks is
as he progresses. I just I Saving Private Ryan for
me is is one with a period and there's not
even a be to go under it. The acting amazing cast.

(45:36):
I watched it, ended up watching about a few months
ago again and and just the first time I'd seen
about five years, and it just hit me just as
deep because it's one of those movies that is just
so real in so many different places. And then of
course they I think, I think they they put in
a capsule and the ending just ties it all together
so perfectly. Well absolutely uh from not only movie is

(46:00):
one of the best movies.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Of all time.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Yeah, gotta be Saving Private Ryan to.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Overall, so a lot of criticisms of that movie similar
to up Is after the first D Day sequence. YEA,
A lot of people think it loses a lot. I
agree with that.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
I think it's the opposite. I think it just builds
more and more. I mean, I think the best scenes
of the movie are in the final third.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Oh yeah, I don't know about that. I still think
D Day is the best opening of any almost the
best opening of any movie. It's great.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
It's a great scene. I just don't think it loses.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
No, I don't think it loses much either. And I
was gonna about to because I don't know what your
thoughts were, but I was about to poo poo that notion.
But I do think that's the best scene in it,
and it is great. It's a great movie. I think
of all of the ones that I have on my list,
you know, I don't like the glorify war movies. There

(46:52):
are some good ones. Who do you consider glorifying?

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Though there's a bunch on my list too.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
I can't really think of them because I don't really
like them that much. I like the ones though. What
I'm saying, like, what's the definition of glorifying? So it.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Looks like you would almost want to be there?

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Yeah, it's like, oh my god, those heroics, the camaraderie
with all those guys, like, uh, I don't know, it's
hard to explain. I'll explain if you guys. One of
you guys picks one of those.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
I'm not gonna. I'm gonna to my hand too much here, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
So I will.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
I will let you guys go on that way. But yeah,
I think I don't think it's a glorifying war movie,
but I think it's on the ones that I have,
it's probably the most on that scale. Interesting.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah, all right, Chris, you have back to back with
third overall and fourth overall?

Speaker 2 (47:40):
All right, I will take We Were Soldiers? Oh little
off the board?

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Here?

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Off the board? Yeah, how's it? Off the board? It's
not on my list? Have you seen it? No list?

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Mel Gibson, Sam Elliott, Okay, that is probably it's the
third best one.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
I haven't seen Apocalyptic Now. You have not seen Apocalypse Now,
Apocalypse you have to see that. But I'm sure I've
heard great things. But I'm almost positive byor Ryan's number two.
So we Were Soldiers? Tell us about it? Why is
it number three overall? Well, emotional number one, as you
already mentioned, and it's based on true events as well.

(48:22):
So they had a Battle of ladrangon if I'm not
mistake mistaken in Vietnam, and that was in nineteen sixty five,
so you get to in this movie. Mel Gibson plays
Lieutenant Lieutenant Moore. He is the captain and one of
the lines that always reminds me is I will be
the first on the battlefield and I will be the last.
And as the movie goes on, obviously there's a lot

(48:43):
of death, but he keeps his promise. He is the
first on the first soldier on that field before everything
gets going, and he's the last. And the relationship that
he builds with is his comrades. The sad part is
when the wives get the telegrams because they sent their
husbands off to war, and they show the scenes of
taxi drivers pulling up doing their jobs and having deliver

(49:05):
news that your husband, your brother was killed in action.
And there's a few scenes where they show it and
you know, one woman is in denial, like not my husband,
and you know, she's like find a better job, and
he was like, you know, this is this is all
I can do, Like I'm sorry, I'm delivering this news
and you get that's the reality of the situation. These
are what families had to go through during that time,

(49:27):
and it's just one of those films that it gets
to you. You watch and you're like, man, there was
a scene where they have a Japanese American his job
is to send in pilots to drop napalm, and you know,
it's a Vietnam war movie. That's why I said, drawn, yeah,
and he says, hey, we need to get it close.
You know, they're right on top of us, and the

(49:47):
Vietnam Vietnamese soldiers are right on top of them. And unfortunately,
just one little misque on reading a map and telling
your pilots where to drop the bombs, he dropped the
napalm a little too close and he killed multiple American soldiers.
And being a leader, right, yeah, being a leader, males

(50:09):
like yo, it's okay, go to the next one we got.
We gotta keep going. You can't sit in this moment,
and I know it sucks, but you gotta keep going.
And that is you know, as a leader in sports
that you tell your players when you're when they have
a bad moment, and this is war like, people just
died and for him, to have that pedigree to just
realize in the moment like, yo, kid, it's cool. I

(50:30):
know you made a mistake, but you got to keep going.
We need you to get these these people are attacking
us off of our ass and that moment just like wow.
You know, for someone to be in that moment when
bullets are snapping and flying, he has a composure to
tell this guy you screwed up.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Okay, move on, we got we have more fish to
fry here. There's a problem. So you have the majestic
voice of Sam Elliott in that.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Yeah, he's also a captain as well. I'm surprised you
have seen it. You know you talk about heavy eating cast.
This is definitely And then my back to back pick,
I will go with let me see that write it
in there?

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Am I going to say it? I'll go with Hacksaw Ridge.
Oh wow, another board. Have you guys not seen that one?

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Yeah, I'll take Hacksaw Ridge another great films.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
That's what the Spider Man, right, So he is a
medic Garfield.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
His decision is I'm never going to fire my weapon,
and he lives up to that. He tries not to
even carry a weapon. Yeah, but they need him to
It's like, bro, come on the optics here man. So
he is a He does a really good job of
just staying in character. I'm sure that role was just
I don't know how exhaustion I was to play, but
seriously like that. He's British right and he has to
have a Southern twang to him. I just thought he

(51:37):
smoked the role. Yeah, another heavy hidden cast. Vince Vaughn's
in there. I know he's probably more of a comedic
comediic comedic element, but he nails his job as a
captain in that movie.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
And you get to get to see a different side
of war.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
And also I forgot to mention, and we were soldiers
actually go to the Japanese or to the Vietnamese side,
and you get to see a soldier who's attacking the
Americans and what he's going through, looking at his picture
of his family.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Because they have wives, two and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
They're fighting for their cause, what they believe, so they
definitely spin it in that movie. You get a glimpse of, oh,
this is what they're fighting for. So yeah, both of
those movies, those are our two picks. We were soldiers
in x Orige.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Okay, off the Wall, but yes, stay true of what
you like, like Asa Ridge a lot. It's just not
my list. But it's a good movie. Well, I know
what I'm gonna get my last two, so I'm good.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
So my next pick here.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Fifth.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Overall, I think falls under the question of what is
a war movie? Because I think that this is a
war movie because it deals with real war implications and
it has to do with a war that they are
clearly part of, just in a different part of the war. Oppenheimer.

(52:46):
Oppenheimer is all about the building of the bomb that
ended essentially World War two Japanese American side, right, they
are very clearly part of the war, but it's the
scientific part of the war. Meanwhile, there are political applications to.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
This war adjacent. Yeah, this is not a war movie
for me.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Interesting, okay, because because it's sort of one of those
things where they were clearly part of the war. There
is a clear Matt Damon clear.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
It doesn't show battles or anything. So I get where
you're coming from, and a war is not a character
to me.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
That's what I think qualifies.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Okay, So what is a war movie where the war
because the building of the bomb is it is the
whole plot of this movie.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
I totally agree. And it's like you could tell it's
that that's exactly what it is, but you don't like.
I mean, you can do it if you want. This
is just me, This is just me. I I'm kind
of with Chris on this one.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
I'll say a war movie for me would have to
hit on a few different things, like there's there is
there is a war general who is a main character
in this movie for me. For me, military action would
have to be portrayed. Yeah, at least some of the
audio of that does not count. No, Okay, I know
I can give you a big part of the movie.

(53:57):
I'm not gonna go with step further. I think it
asked to me be a big part focused on soldiers
and or civilians for me as well, like okay, fine
they screw you guys, be in glorious faster.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
No.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
The thing is, I have no problem with the pig
you can take no screw you glorious fasts because I
had I had that in the back and I was
gonna and like listen, like you are not gonna let
me have, which which I think counts.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
But it's I want to give it to you.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
I just think for me too, I will look at
a war movie. So you then hold on, you can
stop reverse time. Would you allow me to have up
and hide? That's what I yeah, you do, I say yes.
He says no, your final call.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Let's see it? Can I can?

Speaker 2 (54:41):
I ask you, glorious bastards, then flip a coin.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Let's it's gonna it's gonna flip a coin.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Here you can just look up. Hey is Oppenheimer war
rest tails.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
I didn't didn't even call it because I'm an idiot. Fine,
we're gonna say, glorious pasters. Fine, screw you guys, glorious.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
So okay, I'm gonna tell you three movies that are
on my list as non war movies. If you guys
want to take them, I'm just gonna explain to you
why they're not for probably not go ahead. The Imitation
Game for the same reason that Alzheimer is not. So
it's about enigmas. Yes, it's basically the same premises Oppenheimer.

(55:20):
But it's about enigma and how the guy breaks it,
but in the war. But it's not about the war.
It's about him breaking the code. Yeah, and honestly, that's
a big part of it. There's no one on the
front lines that are. The war is not a character
in that movie. Schindler's List not a war movie for me.

(55:42):
It's a holocaust movie, but not a war movie. Two
different different things. Yeah, total, I would agree with you there,
exactly right. And you know, on that same note, Life
is Beautiful one of my absolute favorite movies. Ever. It's
I think it's better than Shin's Schindler's List. A little
hot take there. I'm a Spielberg buye penis really good?

(56:04):
Not that one though, Okay, But Life is Beautiful. It's
about uh, it's a similar thing about a kid and
his dad go to a concentration camp. Basically, the dad
doesn't want his kid to think this is all these
atrocities going on. He makes it a game for his kid.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
And it's just a really beautiful movie. Watch it if
you haven't highly recommend. But those are three examples for
me of movies that are not fine.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Inglorious Bastards takes my a right, and a lot of
that is just because I love the movie. Listen.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Is it the best war movie there? For sure?

Speaker 1 (56:35):
But it is it is actually a war in the movie.
The war is a character in the movie. It revolves
around it. I mean, and we talked, I talked at
Linked I think about Glorious Bastards. Was that the last
week when we were talking about directors two weeks ago?
Because villains last week, that's right, villains, And I went
with Christoph wat Yeah, so I again three straight because

(57:02):
somebody had Tarantined, somebody had Tarantino. But still like again,
like three straight weeks of tearing. The Inglorious Bastards has
played a role in these drafts, and like, I don't
know what else to say about Inglorious Bastards. I love
the movie.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
I love Law.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
I love so many parts of this movie, so many scenes.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
War is a character.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
It is highlighted in a great way and done. I
think it in just a fantastic tone. Again, the writing,
everything else. Glorious Basters. Yeah, that's a great pick. It's
a it's on my list. I'm gonna have to swipe
it off.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Unfortunately, I think actually it if you look at it
from a surface level and you watch that movie, you
could think, oh, this kind of glorifies War a little bit, Yeah,
a little bit. But I think what Tarantino is doing
is showing how much Hollywood glorifies war and it's almost.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
That.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
So it's like, that's why it's so much in the
opposite direction for me, because it's like, whoa, look all
these other movies that are so gritty and like Saving
Private Ryan Apocalypse now and the more we'll get to
versus this one that's just like Honkey Dori. You got
the Western guy that get you. He kills the Nazis, right,
but no, and you compare those tune, you can see

(58:15):
how stark the difference is. Anyways, love the pick, go oh,
it's me right on that.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
No, he wasn't. Sorry, I thought I thought there was
somebody who was in both Inglorious Bastards and Oppenheimer and
I missed. So you get back to back, Andrews with
your now second and third picks.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
All right, I could do a very theme oriented back
to back, or I could do my actual second overall pick.
Your second O pick checks. It's like trying to get
I'm afraid.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
I'm afraid your themes are the next or one of
the next two on my list. So Platoon's on my list,
by the way, but not my pick on my list
as well, it's not my pick.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
I'm gonna go all quiet on the Western Front the
New twenty twenty two much a good movie. Yeah, if
you want a movie that glorifies war, this is not
the MOVI be for you, my friend. Yeah, so we
talk about this is gonna be also a theme for
the rest of my draft, movies from different perspectives other
than the Americans, and this takes World War One from

(59:12):
the perspective of the Germans and World War one world
War one, yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, so it again not
a World War two one, which kind of is the
one that will dominate the headlines here. But uh yeah,
it's what can I say? I mean, the score is fantastic.
It's I'm usually not a fan of the movies that

(59:34):
every scene you just get more and more depressed, But
the setting is makes it okay for me because of
how interested I am in certain war aspects and kind
of soaking in what previous generations in our world have
gone through, especially World War One, which I don't know

(59:55):
enough about personally. So I was a huge fan of
this movie. I haven't I'm gonna I haven't seen the
original Acquire in the Western Front. It's a little little
old from my taste, but I usually didn't know. Yeah,
it was like in the thirties. But it's interesting. No,
it's like if you look up best war movies of
all time that the original one is on the list

(01:00:15):
for a lot of them. But I think the twenty
twenty two one did such a good job. And like again,
I haven't seen the original to know whether it did
it justice or whatever, but I love the newer one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Remember of the Western Remember a minute ago where I
said movies that like wrench your gut. Also, yes, what
I have you gotta have the mix of the wrenching
of the gut and break your heart. This is like
the death and definition of that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
It is it both?

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
I mean, and I think the right. I love the
way they overall did it that I mean it is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Was it on your list? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
And it's And it's a tremendous movie.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
It's a great movie. Honestly, Like when it comes to
war movies, I will set aside my unwillingness to kind
of be grossed out and like uncomfortable, because I like
being uncomfortable in these aspects.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
So now so you said your theme is going to
be from other perspectives, right, So now I'm very scared
about your wrap around here. I'm very scared because I
have one that I was hoping to get in the
fourth round. But I feel like you might pick right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
I think I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna take letters
from you with Jima.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
It's you give your thoughts because I have a story.
It's very personal to me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
But go, okay, I'm sorry that I took this from you.
Then I feel bad now. It's it's one of my
favorite war movies though it's it's fantastic again, same kind
of aspect where you have a different perspective than one
you've grown up learning about, kind of again kind of
the glorified war aspect. You never think about the opposite side,

(01:01:45):
Like you just think, oh, kill all those Japs, like
they're the ones that are ruining our lives and everything.
They're the ones that are bringing us into this war,
and you never think about what they're going through. And
it's it's it's a pretty eye opening experience. If you
haven't seen this movie, I think Clin does an excellent job.
He was on my honorable mentioned list for the directors

(01:02:06):
that have movies that I have to go see. If
I see that he's doing it because I think he
you have to see it. It's it's fantastic. You might
take the other side of this one, which is Flags
of Our Fathers, so it's the same. You could watch
these movies back to back and it's the same battle.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Then these were.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Yes, So it was I was debating going back to
back on this one for that, but I had to
get all quite on the western front end there. But
I'm gonna take letters from Ewojima because I was so
surprised by how much I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Let's let's rap ahead, let's wrap this together, because I'll go,
I'll go Flags, Flags of Our Fathers. So my grandpa
was in the Marines and he arrived on Ewo Jima
on the second day of fighting and stayed the whole time, wow,
and lost ninety percent of his company and made it through, survived,

(01:03:02):
came back to the States, and then married.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
What was my grandma? Who?

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
I guess who? And then of course I'm here, and
I kind of it's one of those things where you know,
you kind of just trace your lineage and you say,
my god, he survived all but one day of fighting
total on Euo Jima and and I'm fricking here today,
and because one of the one of the reasons I'm here, David,
because he survived. And when you go back through these movies,

(01:03:29):
the Letters to Me with You, Flags of Our Fathers,
you see the the heartbreaking nature of what happened in
that battle, not only the heartbreak, but the realities, the
harsh reality. I talk about, the you know, the gut wrenching,
but also the the the the heartbreaking. And I think
both of these movies do such an exceptional job of

(01:03:52):
this specific battle, which was one of the most deadly
battles in terms of you know, of people who went
into a war versus people who came out of it,
and how few percentage, how few people came out of
Ebo Jima alive, which just kind of makes the story
all that more crazy that my grandpa survived. And and

(01:04:14):
it's one of those stories where you see these movies
and whether it's Cleaning Switt or Flags or Fathers, both
these movies capture all that in a package that is
so well done and and for the personal connection, it's
just an added boost. But I think you just regardless
and I clearly you draft letters moves you want regardless
of if you have these connections. They're undeniably fantastically incredible,

(01:04:39):
incredible war movies.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Yeah, yeah, just check it out. Please do both of them? Yeah,
please do because and I think honestly they go together.
Yeah they do.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
I mean really, it doesn't. I don't know if it
matters which one you watch first? Uh yeah, actually which
one would you watch?

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I mean I probably I'm I'm a honestly, you know what,
I watch Flags of Our Fallows first. Yeah, I think
i'd lean that way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
And then because then you then I want to come away.
It's more about it's more about what you want to
end with and what you want to come away with.
And I want to come away with the with the
knowledge and the acknowledgment and and the information of what
the other side went through. So but I mean, I
love that we could we could kind of back back
to back that in that conversation because both of them

(01:05:25):
thank you for leaving me one of them. Yeah, no,
I know, you're they're they're both tremendous.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Fantastic movies. Uh that was I think they get kind
of forgotten and uh, they do, they really do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
And that it BOMs me out because I think I
think maybe it's just people forget about that battle. I'm
not sure, but like it's when when you just look
at how deadly it was.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
It literally has one of the most famous shots if
you were to think about what embodies American patriots like
the flag and so Chris, you got back to back
to have your throw, third and fourth pick, I will
take fury with Brad.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Great pick gave you a different view of war from
the tank side, because you don't get that, you know,
you don't know, and I didn't know how griming was disgusting.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Like you talk about another one that makes you just sick.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Yeah, it's that one brutal, dirty, chaotic and you're in
this little tin can and yeah, I mean that final
scene is just like you know, everyone's dead and you
got one guy left and he's the Germans seeing but
they're like, eh, he's the last one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Okay. So he's done so many good things. But that
might be one of Brad Pitt's best performances. Oh yeah,
that's I mean, he killed it. He's done so many
good things. I mean, what's the guy's name that plays
the Punisher? He was in it as well. He played
in the Punisher' say he didn't. This was the.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Yes, yeah he played in it. Yeah, just a really
good cast. But yeah, back to my point about a
tank crew. You know, you you don't get a movie
about a tank crew now often. I mean that might
have been the first of its kind. I'm sure there's
other movies, but I thought they really hit on it.
And then you get that moral complexity of it's not
all is good versus evil because you know, the Americans
are looked at as these evil people too from the

(01:07:05):
German perspective. But you get to look at a film
that forces us to look at virus to what it
does to people and how you know, one second you
see a guy running, the next minute he's blown the bits.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
We should do a Brad Pitt movie draft, by the way,
I think we should do that, and we're not gonna
We're not gonna do a podcast. This is a good
point to say, we're not gonna have a show next
week after that Brad Pitt movie draft.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
I'm with it, so I will ask and we can discuss.
But is it a Brad Pitt's performance movie draft the
same or Brad Pitt movie draft? What was the best
the same.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Movies that Brad pitt are in because I think he's
even when he's not a main he is featured in something.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
But my point is like, so would the number one
pick be bad Brad's Pit's best performance or the best movie?
Aren't those the same thing?

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
No, they're not TBD TVD. Let's let's figure that out later, Okay, Brad.
Because Brad pitt As I kind of just pulled it up.
I'm just like, I'm like, wow, there are too many,
so many ones, all right, So Fury's a great pick.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Chris now on my list, and my last pick, hmmm,
we're doing for total right yea, yeah, okay, good.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
I will go with Glory.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
Denzel Washington came out in the I saw it in
fifth grade. We were learning about slavery and whatnot, and
that was one of the films that we watched, and
I'm like, wow, okay, that movie stuck with me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
It's just a.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Story about an all black company which is frowned upon
back in that time because slavery was rolling deep. So
to have African American soldiers fighting for their freedom and
they got to do that, and it just it hit home.
I was like, Wow, this is what answers had to
go through to get just just to be looked at
as an equal. They had to fight for it, and

(01:08:47):
they did, you know, all the way up to the end.
So Denzel Washington's and who else in that man, I
gotta look it up to remind I haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Seen that movie. Oh yeah, Glory is one of them that. Yeah,
like a movie you guys talk about the schools ninety
oh shoot ninety five on Rotten Tomatoes. Damn. I didn't
even know that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
But it's a it's it's emotional depth again, it's it's uh,
it's not for the week, I will say, all right,
it's it's not one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Oh Morgan Freeman, that's what he plays.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Oh wow. So the composing composer you mentioned the music,
James Horner Aultimately Braveheart, Titanic Avatar. He's He's done a
lot of great scores.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
I just like this Free Black Men star Trek. I
want to fight for the union, risking everything because they
just want to be Freeman.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
So they they fight. And the Civil War movies are underrated,
I think as well. Well, that's why I wanted to
give my last pick, and I knew I would, And
y'all ain't seen.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
It all right, But yeah, it's a good movie. And
I remember I remember seeing him fifth grade and it's
stoke with me. I've watched it a couple of times
since then, but yeah, it's a always you a little
tea at the.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Fifty fourth Massachusetts Infantry.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
Red that's the name of that that company, yup, that regimen,
I should say, so, yeah, great, all black?

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Yeah, wow, so the races white folks.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
But yeah, on two picks here, and I'm a little
bit worried that we might have the final the same
to the same two.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
I'm going to show you my line. Are these the
final two?

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Neither of them?

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Wow, So I have a choice.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Let me look at that again. Sorry, neither of them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
So I have a choice here, Yes you do? Man
oh man, oh manm nineteen seventeen and it's close with Dunkirk.
Those were my final two. Dunkirk in nineteen seventeen, because
I love them both. But I think nineteen seventeen what
edges it over, I think is what makes it so special,

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and that is the one shot. And we do know
that it was. It was cut together. It wasn't like
they actually did one shot. But I think in that
it just creates such a special element where you really
do go through this whole journey of this kid's you know,
this kid's day essentially, and what he has to go

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through to get the message. And overall you do get
the sickening, heartbreaking, disgusting parts of it where it does
make your gut wrench and breaks your heart at the
same time, and it does that a number of different
times in a number of different ways. But overall I
love the way it was made. Did it win the

(01:11:29):
Oscar for Best Picture?

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
I don't think so. I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Did it win It was nominated but did not win.
Parasite won that year, and Parasites a deserving winner. But
nineteen seventeen for me was just right alongside. And again
like there's there's not much more. I think Sam Mendez,
I think directed it, and who did a couple James
Bond movies, and I think he just perfected what was

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a reaction of a very in the moment scene of
a war. And we talked about movies where war is
the character. For me, nineteen seventy it's so close with Dunkirk,
so close, but for me, it edges the edges.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Out, just barely Yeah, between those two, I think you
chose the right one. I think Dunkirk Hot Take is
Nolan's worst movie. I don't love it. I don't hate it, obviously.
I think Nolan does fantastic work. But I liked it
when I watched it. But it's an airplane movie. It's
not something I need to set it time to watch.
And you know, I think there are much better war movies,

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and I think nineteen seventeen is a clear cutup of Dunkirks.
I think you made the right choice there. So what
do you what do you choose the two? But I'm
choosing between is Platoon and probably one that's on neither
of you guys list. Good Morning Vietnam was the next
movie on my list. Okay, I love Good Morning Vietnam Vietnam.
I love Robin Williams number one. He's one of my
favorite actors of all time. I think it has a

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different perspective on the war than anyone else. I work
in radio. He is a radio host that talks to
everyone all the sort.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Do you think I started Sounders weekly, good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Even Good Morning Vietnam. Yeah, it's it's good stuff, but
I think it starts off as this kind of lighthearted, like, Okay,
here's this funny guy coming in making jokes about the war,
and then the more the movie goes on, he kind
of learns more and more about what's actually going on,
and the audience learns more and more about what's actually
going on. And I think I love that kind of

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aspect of the movie. And again, the war is a
character in this movie big time, and it's about how
everyone's reacted to it, how they need an escape of
what we talked about with Apocalypse Now as well, and
I think it does a fantastic job kind of descending
into care are you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Going morning over?

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
I think I am, yes. Nice Like both of them
are Vietnam movies. I love myself a Vietnam movie. I
think there's I like movies that make you think about, wow,
why were we actually there, what were people actually doing,
how did people react to something? Psychological aspects of this absolutely,
So that's why I definitely lean towards that conflict that

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interests me the most. I do love a World War
two because I think the literally the history of the
world hinged on that conflict. So I always love kind
of soaking up, but I love the more historical part
of World War Two less the psychological part of it,
and I like the psychological part of Vietnam. Anyways, Good
Morning Vietnam's awesome. Robin Williams did an amazing job. I think,

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like I said, the Descent into Chaos from that movie
where it starts off as this kind of almost comedy
about the movie, and he's just cracking jokes and trying
to get.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
You take a journey as a viewer as he takes
a journey as a character.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
And I think that's how a lot of people experience
the Vietnam War. When then we first went in, I
think a lot of people were for it, and I
mean I can't speak to everyone, but then as time
went on, it became more and more of a thing
where people were like why are we even doing it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
You learn more about what's going on exactly, like wait
a second, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
So if you haven't checked it out, once again, highly
recommend Good Morning Vietnam.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
So that's only three honorable mentions on my list were
Brave Heart, black Hawk Down, and hurt Locker.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
But pretty much.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
I mean I had fourteen on my list, and we
took eleven of the fourteen as a group.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
So pretty, go ahead, Well done, guys. This is gonna
be a tough draft. I honestly don't know who's gonna win.
I'm glad I didn't get both Apocalypse Now and Saving
Private Ryan. If I had taken Saving Private Ryan first overall,
would Apocalypse Now have lasted to me? I'm asking you
guys now, I.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Would have taken it with my second rounder.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Okay, I wouldn't have seen it. You would have taken it. Probably.
Would you have taken it? Okay, yeah, you would have.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
I would have taken because you guys didn't allow me Oppenheimer,
So he didn't allow you Apenheimer that you didn't qualified
as a war movie, so you were part of this no,
I said. He said he would allow you to have it,
but it was so for me. Apocalypse Now was above
and glorious bastards. So I would have taken my second.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Round, all right. So I'm glad I didn't do that then,
because I really wanted to make sure I got to
talk about a Pocalypse Now, which is my favorite war movie.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
So any other honorable mentions before we end and give our.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Other than the three that I talked about earlier that
weren't war movies that I still love movie wise, but
I I would like to I'd like to explain that
how they were war movies to be. But other than that,
I think we touched on basically everything.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Chris, what are our teams?

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
All?

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
So we have.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Apocalypse now for Jackson, All Quiet on the West.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
Now for Anders, same teams. Yeah, all Quiet on the
Western Front. Letters from Ewo Jima and good Morning Vietnam.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
That's a.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
That's a great fricking team. You're gonna I think you're
gonna win. That's A. That's an amazing team.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Jackson's over to making those pick predictions.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Jackson has Sam voters last week go ahead, Engloye's Batstards,
Flags of Our Fathers and nineteen seven that I like.
That's a damn good team, though I went with we
were Soges, Hawk's Aw Ridge Fury and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
See I totally didn't even put Hacksaw Ridge on my
on my list, but I kind of wish I did.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Now I'll take it. It's a great film. But those
are the teams. Great conversation, another great draft. So thank y'all,
ye uh.

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Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Well, well, it's Anderson's term.

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Everyone is going to post the draft. Everyone is up.
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