September 26, 2022 • 39 mins
On this episode Chuck Dizzle & DJ HED are joined by Baby Money to speak on the Detroit Hip Hop scene, his decision to sign with Atlanta based label Quality Control and his latest release New Money.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
All right, We're back at it Homegrown Radio. Chuck Gizzl
DJ head Sir, we got Detroit in the building. Still
on that time, been here over running off day. You
know what I'm saying, maybe money, what's up?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Man? Sat with y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Appreciate you pulling on up.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I appreciate you. Man. Welcome bro before we get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
See, I'm that guy, right, It's a guy like that
in every city that you go to. I'm one of
them niggas. So I'm gonna tell you the truth. I
didn't think I was gonna like your music, you did know.
When I first heard of you, I was like, I
don't know, it's like another baby, like I got enough babies.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I don't don't.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I'm not interested in having the kids anytime soon. Ship.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
But when I listened to it was an easy money right,
and then I think I went back.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I think I went back one.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
But I listened to easy Money and I was like, damn,
this ship actually is.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's actually hard.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And I'm not even and I'm be honest with you,
it's kind of alienating.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
The easy Money album is ailing it because I'm not
a rich.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Nigga like I feel like the money is for rich niggas, right, No,
that's what everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Nah, bro, don't do that. No, no, no, no, no it's not.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Every song is married this And I can't pronounce some
of the ship on the album because I don't know,
like we were like his wife got these four us?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
How you feel about these that actually wear?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
But no, I felt like when I first when I first, like,
listen to the album all the way through because I
like the press play and let it run before I
go back and listen to pick through it or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I feel like nobody does that anymore. Everybody just go
to their song looking here one time.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
But like, yeah, so I like, I just put it
on and let it run in the house while I
was doing ship, and I'm like, I love the beat selection,
but I like the fact that you it sound like
you right to the beat, you know how like some people,
like some artists will be like, I already got something
for this, they right before they hear it. Am I
wrong in assuming that you right to the music?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah? Like I haven't like actually used a.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Pin and not right like that, But I mean I'm
talking about yeah, I barrot for bar everything, Like so
you hear the beat and there to beating. I just
go because a lot of artists they they they'll take
a sixteen if they wrote and just put.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It on this ramp that they already have for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
But I could tell, like when I'm listening to your
music sonically, I can tell you like you in there
marriaging the music to show you gotta listen to the
beat for a minute, that's what's up.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Have you tried it the other way?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Have you tried like different styles and kind of feel
like what works for you?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
You just know that I locked it on this.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
This was I think I've been like so it was
like when I first started rapping, I was doing he
was just saying, like, write some ship down. By the
time it was time to do a song, I already
got some shit beating everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
To the punch.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
But it used to be times I sit in the
studio like hot people from the city, and I see
you just come in and do it that ship so quick,
and you got a nigga, I got to listen to
this big for a minute.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
You gold on.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I got something this clearly. I gotta listen to the
beg for a hour.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
He going five minutes you know, I'm nigga slowing the
song Now, I'm not like, oh I want them here,
so when I finally got a chance to sit in there.
But oh, it's really easy, really just going for real,
for real, taking your time by making sure everything makes sense.
I've been stuck on it, and I learned that ship
when I was like seventeen twenty five.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Now when you gonna.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Say, what's interesting about that is that you learned that.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
It seems that you learned early like how to get
out of your own comfort zone and learn how to
apply that. Yeah, that's that's dope, because you don't want
to be the person slowing the song up when it's
ten good ass rappers and everybody looking at you too.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
You ain't got nothing yet, your turn? Take your turn
real like held up.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
When you so when you say you write bar for bar,
what does that look like? That? Don't that take the
long ass time?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Not for me.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I think I've been doing it for so long that
it's like.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
It seemed like it would take longer once I might
top of the bar recorded, do another ball recorded, and.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I record myself.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
That's the thing, So I know I noticed that that's irritating,
like when the engineer you gotta keep that nisure playing
go back time and his mind like he got to
do this because he getting paid.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
It's like not no problem to.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
You when you looking at it for him, like, man,
this nigga take the four hours one song.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So when I find out that you really don't got
to do nothing but press three to record yourself, I
got addicted to the like so.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
You so all? So let's say the whole album, like
Easy Money, you recorded yourself most of the songs. Yeah,
other than like a couple with hell of a hell damn.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
That's interesting because I remember talking we had we like
are artists out here?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
His name is problem.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And then also we talked to Nipsey and they both
have the similar thing where they kind of felt their
comfort zone in recording themselves. So how is that transition
when you do go to work with somebody else? Is
it like a big adjustment?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Nah? But I do catch myself by the time like
that move real quick.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Let me let me get to that, because you probably
ain't moving that paid.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I want to go.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I want to go, like because my mom, I'm thinking
I don't I don't think of just one bar. Like
when I go in there, I'm gonna think of four
or five bars to go real quick.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Then we go on to the next four or five bars.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Word literally, is there anything that you need in the
studio to kind of like help inspire or kind of
just like kickstarters like once, it's just literally to be
I always need one of my people in there because
the engineer job is to make sure he get paid.
So sometimes you can't listen to the engineer. The engineer
gonna tell you, oh no, that's shit hard he getting
one hundred an hour.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
He wants you to go ahead. That's hard to tell you.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Feel me, I need somebody who ain't gonna tell me
like no, I don't think you should say that. I
love that because a gag. Okay again, like I told
you at the beginning, I'm that guy.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So I go to everybody's studio.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Session out here and I'm like, no, that ain't it
that shit? We No, I'll be having a like way
no people like him in his position out here, they
all be mad at me.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
As I was in there, I kept going out the studio.
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But you don't got to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I like It's just something that I regularly. Do you
feel what I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Saying, So you're not opposed to you like people telling
you nah that shit, they didn't gonna rewrite your whole
because like, at the end of the day, if you
my people's ship, this is a reflection you too. When
they like when they be like, no baby, money week
is hell, they're really talking about all of us, that
the whole crew.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So that's fire. But I love that. So you you
okay with constructive criticism. You okay with like, yeah, so somebody,
have anybody ever told you that they don't like your music?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I don't know. I don't know. I don't think they
never told me that.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
My brother, I got a brother, that's he the most
hardest person ever to make happy with this ship, like
my big brother where he had played it.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I could play the hardest song to him.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
This song in the world can make the whole room move.
I think you can go harder that ship.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, Like, damn, you just watched me working on this
for something.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Can you bop your head for a second least give
me here? Probably then I played something three months later.
Oh no, it's hard like Bro, you was in the studio.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
You just told me you like this.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Do you think that that's something that's he's doing that
to make you go harder? Or is it really like
just his taste and music he wanted me to. I
feel like he see what I actually can do. You
feel the potential, So it's probably is like no, I
don't like that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I feel like you could have said something more crazy,
even if you said.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Some crazy, So it holds a little more weight when
you actually do something that he's impressed by.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
It's like, oh shit if he says it's good.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
If he said it like I was just I was
just shooting the video the other day.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I'm like, man, what video should I shoot? I called
him and said, bro, what song should I shoot? Right here?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
He instantly went to his phone. This is all I've
been listening to every day. Damn, I'm gonna shoot that real.
So he like it must be out of here. Yes, yes, right, yes,
something I want to talk to you about. What is
the Detroit sound? And I feel like it's had Like
obviously everybody every region get they they they moment right
at that time for everybody get they moment. But I
feel like Detroit like came in, came in, and it's
(07:53):
kind of like having a run where it don't seem
like it's slowing down at all. Like I mean, you
have other people that have come and gone and not
really you know, in the forefront of things anymore. But
I don't need to get into the names. But what's
interesting to me is the tempo and the sound of it.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I love that ship because I'm so.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh man god bro like and nothing again again, just
full transparency.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I'm biased as I'm on West Coast. I'm just I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I just love our ship more than I love my
ship more than I love your ship, Florida. Out of
the fun. I'm biased to our ship. I'm born and
raised here. That's how I was supposed to feel.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But that's like us with the lions, like they might
not win one.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
To us, like they don't get one. I'm just saying,
we got to keep it the buck, bro. But I'm
just I mean, but there's a such thing as ugly babies.
And if your baby is ugly, you still supposed to.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Love it it, see it, right?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
So you you you coach tuning to know that they're
ugly babies. They're there are such as ugly babies. Hell, no,
there is such babies. Babies is fine.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know you've seen.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
You turned down.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I'm stinking.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I'm telling you was a baby, right, are you a father?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
But what I was gonna say was is I'm tired
of these like just slow ass like drugs, like not
drug out, but dragged out like tempos.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And that's but the drudge a slow down.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
And I feel like I feel like the Detroit movement
is I could relate to it because it's tempo involved.
I mean, it's that ship moving on our feet with
it moving? Do you do you?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
How do I say? This does that?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That does Detroit or the area the region identified as
having that sound?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Because I know, like when you ever heard of the
term to west coast, so out.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Here we'll hear people say from Atlanta, people from New York,
they'll come out here to be like this ship too
west coast. I don't know what the fuck that means,
but I ain't never heard nobody say this ship too midwest,
this ship too east coast, this is too south, Like
you never heard an outcast record or future record and
somebody said this ship is too south. Well no, no,
they'll come in the trap, they'll say trap, it's too trapped.
(10:21):
They say that, Yeah, I've heard people say that. So
from your section, right in your section, do you do
y'all identify? Do y'all have that conversation at all? Or
is that like not even something that spoke about.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Or just music? It's just music?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Really, why why do you think that? Well?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
From from my perspective, I feel like the support is
very important, and that's another thing that kind of holds
the city up.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
From your perspective, how is the support from your side
coming up, coming up, and the people that are in
the game right now that kind of embrace you.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
How important is that?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Because I think that's one thing that other cities can
kind of take from in order to kind of like
get so Like everybody I show was so underground for
so long. Everybody got to know each other before this
shit even happened. Got it, Like it's so small we
even gonna end up at the same studio together, or
your man's gonna end up being my men's in some
way fucking around, end up being cousins.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
That's how small Detraited is really for real.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
So it's like the support crazy because I knew all
these things before they get on. So it's like when
they do get on, they posted my music, they put
me on they platform, they helping me grow at the
same time. What was there ever a turning moment where
you feel like that the the city more embraced each
other at at the time. Cause I feel like, again,
every every section, every region has those people that say, man,
(11:36):
the city don't support us.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
The city don't you know, show us love like they should.
Was there ever a.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Turning moment that you feel from your perspectives as Detroit,
You know what I'm saying, that's like kind of turn
it around and start supporting more than than it happened.
I don't think it was no moment every but ever
since Tea signs like people have been getting signed, I
can say that gotch you like that that changed since dude,
I wanted to ask you about as far as like
being in from that region you signed the qc uh huh,
(12:04):
and that's obviously like a southern, a Southern entity, but
being at the Midwest is so rich in music history.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
What made you wanna sign to a Southern label?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Uh? It really wasn't about the uh southern or nothing
like that. It was more like they pushed they artists
day facts. Even if they got they got a little
baby on their me they got like the hottest people
in the world, and they still take their time out
to push the people they just signed.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
They still they still.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Hustling like they nobody You feel what I'm saying. Good,
So that was the one thing to hustle. I know
that they're gonna help me. Shit, we gonna help each
other win at the same time. And that's something they
always dreamed about, Like you know when you was a kid,
like if I had to.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Sign somebody right now to be QC word. You feel
what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
So how long we how long before you was dreaming
about that to actually happened.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Uh? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I wrote p in two thousand eighteen, told them you
gonna be signing me soon.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Shit, I got signed last year for real. Yeah what
you mean? You wrote him? Like you DM? I DM him?
Did he did he see it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
That's how I ended up getting in contact with him
when they first good when when we first got on
the phone, he end up d M me back to
that and then I talked to him on the phone.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
He's like, y'all, I see your message.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Say, that's crazy, Like I had to write you back
because I feel like I missed it.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Oh yeah, they got to add an extra digit on
the contract. He played waiting, Yeah, you await your turn
and also saw also you just said something about you know,
every everybody as far as like you winning and ship
like that.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
How many people is on your team?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Because I watched I saw a video you and you
was like, Bro, I'm tying, I'm putting all my homies
on and then.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I looked in the back and it was like nineteen niggs. Yeah,
I got like I got eight brothers and sisters.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You said eighty eight.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Hey, I like, bro, ain't Yes, I got eight brothers
and sister ship.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
So it's nine of y'all.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah that's wild.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
But like, so y'all have the same parent mama, same mom. Yeah,
your mom's a angster, bro, Damn she's still with us. Bro,
you need to buy your mom so from the street, Bro,
she had nine kids.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Where are you on?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Where in the middle, like right in the middle, seventh
five this nigga, I'm thinking of some other ship.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
So okay, I'm thinking I'm thinking, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I think I'm at five. I'm like number five for sure,
soddle child. Yeah, I'm number six. Okay, so you you
a little bit later on which one gotta go to
the military, the military, the middle child, right, No, it
will be five, not six. I'm good. I know that's
(14:40):
what I'm stright.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I'm not going that's so wait.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I remember you saying that you got your name because
it was always the youngest and you have money.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
But you're the middle child, so yeah, it wasn't like
the youngest.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
That's like the kids I always hung with grown people
got my whole life. So how was How was the
family in terms of like supporting music, Like how's mom's
like when when you first start doing it? My mom
would be mad as hell and I say ship, and
I'd be my song like what I just say? I
said old thirteen, I was scamming niggas with my mom. She'd
be on that like why the fuck would you say
(15:16):
that on the song?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Though, Like even if we did do that back, she'd
be mad. Bro Okay, that leads me to my next point.
She'd be saying, like, you know, you said my name
in there.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Do I get some money off of that cause you.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
To my next point.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I was listening to to your to your music, and
I'm like, obviously they just started doing this, but they
charging people for their lyrics and ship like that, Like
do you think about that now going forward making the
new music or you ain't tripping they charge what they
charging niggas They using people's lyrics against them in court,
like for different things like based on what your mom
just what your mom said.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
To you too, Like why the I think I say fake? Yeah,
there you go there. I like this, it ain't real.
I like this. Let's put that ship that right.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
If music wasn't a thing, what what was the thing
that that that you were into prior to basketball? Fucking
it up real quick? I saw you say you can hoop,
but like I ain't just saying it either. Okay, but
when you but how tall he I'm five eleven. Okay,
when you say you can hoop though I can hoop hoop?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Do you have you seen other other celebrities. I've seen
Quavo Hoo. It's cool.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I fucked Kavo up, Ja Cole Dirks.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I feel like anybody could be J Cole J Cole hard.
You're tripping. He better than you, not me, But he's.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Though. Have you seen Chris Brown play basketball?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
No, I watched.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I watched j Cole Dirk ship. I've seen Quava ship
for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I don't, I ain't. I don't think I've seen Dirk play.
But I've seen Chris.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Brown working out with What's what's doing name Chris Berkeley.
M hm. I seen Chris Brown play bro and Breezy
got game Bro. I ain't never seen him playing. He could,
he could, he could hoop bro. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
You feel like you feel like you you like up there,
you like one of them ones when they come to music.
It ain't just the confidence either. Is there anybody that
can get you, that can beat me?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
That you because I ain't nobody. Ain't nobody be arrogant.
You hear me, I'm gonna be arrogant because I just.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Said once people see some ship.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Is there any type of footage out there? Anybody breaking
your ankles?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Hell no, not none of the type of It's some
footge out there.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And Nigga hit me so hard in football when I
was like eleven, I never played it.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
He was like to hit my head so hard on
the gate. I never played football again? Are you better
at as far as hooping? Right? Are you better defense? Offense?
With offense? Both? Ship? Like what's your game though? Like
inside you got a jumper and I can shoot that
bitch good to the rib he said, everything is good.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And badid Lebron James, Bro, you gotta have a weak spot. Yeah,
why would I say when niggas come at me, they're
gonna have it.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Look at this nigga the celebrity games, so.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
He fresh meat. You feel they gonna know everything already? Dude, Man,
who do you?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Who do you look for?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Is there anybody that you're looking forward to working and
working with? Is there any people on on the mind
that you got that. She's like, man, look I gotta
get it in with them.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Really everybody but dirt dirt baby?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
What's cuse? Like? Oh? Cool? Cause like Anthony Hamilton, I
want to do Really, I think that would be dope.
I just like I like the song Cool. I think
that I think you and Hamilton be dope.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
But I like all the young people right now, like
our whole generation going crazy. So I say everybody when
when it comes to trying to work with people at
this point, do you try to let the music speak
speak for itself and just like let the business handle
or are you a person that's like wants to reach
out to people like, look, I'm gonna work, let's ge,
let's get it in.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I ain't.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I ain't not through d MS, I ain't I ain't
into the d M and ship. But if I see
you out, I ain't gonna bite. I ain't gonna hold
my tongue. Let me know you're a fan, whatever the case.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, for Shure, for show, I don't look at it crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I think that's important cause a lot of a lot
of times people hold their tongue on that.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It's like, damn, you could be blocking your blessings, but saying.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Something real that's getting you Like I'm already signed to QC.
They got me in the room, but they ain't gonna
talk for me. Yeah you feel what I'm saying. When
is the last time you use the QC name for
you know anything? No, I think they see I always
got this own, So I really, I really ain't gotta
say it.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I ain't gonna you try to get.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Some like free food or some ship.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
They give it to me, they give it to me
for show for sure that ship crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
You be running that ship up.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
That I charging as you should. I'm charging.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I used to I used to work fun when I
first started radio. I used to do.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I used to part with the station vehicle and pull
up a different spots and get free food on nobody
gonna Nobody gonna say shit. Man, come on, hey, I
shot you over the radio southing me some you know,
a free free.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Food should have got out of love in it right now.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
So it's like it's it's kind of almost at the
point like that, hey, where everybody helping each other. I
want to go back to something you said about when
you brought up your moms and the music, and I
remember I wrote this down because I wanted to ask
you about it.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
On the song Mine on It, that's a song I
like that song.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
On the song Mine on It, though you said mom
told me to stop sipping. You got a belly, So
is your mom's with one? Is your mom's like hold
you accountable, like for the ship.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
You be you be doing and like she get on
your ass.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Off top you wanna act girl, You're gonna whatever, come
with it right, So your moms and then your brother
are your two. Those two are the ones who.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Kind of keep you.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Had all my brothers close as hell, like ain't none
of us really have our daddy? My my daddy the
only person that he did, but ain't none of us
really have our days? So we was really close as here.
We come from one fight. We all fight like it
could be a one on one. We got to get jumped.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Cause uh yeah, yeah, no points that a fighter so.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
D down when it came to as far as shit,
you say, y'all close as hell, So y'all never beeped
over like we beat at the time, somebody ate the
last pop tart like I now, we were little shit
like that, we showed pay. We used to like play
each other for our clothes.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Like you got something sweeter than me, Like we gonna
play like m I come.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
From a basketball family, like my hood. I grew up
with Derreck Comen. We played for seventy six. It's like
my whole hood played basketball. Like every person you see
play basketball in my hood. So we come from that
competition like, oh, you got some better pratice than me.
Let's play one on one for 'em and then you
gotta come out of 'em right right there, right there, and.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
You you give 'em to somebody, somebody gonna be in
the sideline. Both parents?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Shit crazy? What if you you never lost any of them?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
You know, I lost a couple.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I'm making sure I got some sweet ass brothers.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
My brother so your brother's is nicer than you? Yeah, fuck.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
You gotta admit it might as well be fasts.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Does anybody Do anybody else in your family do music?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, both of my brothers demo, jabo, Okay, a couple
of my friends do it. I remember you said your brother. Uh,
I think you said one of your brothers was rapping
before you.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, damo. He called himself dizzy. So you got introduced
to rapping through your brother. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
It's somebody from my hood to His name was motherfucker. Nah,
he was rapping back in the day. His name is nah.
What made you cause I remember you s uh. You
started really taking it serious like two twenty nineteen, about
twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, I started really driving my clear bubba. I had
like a little game planning to where.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I'n'na drop a video a two weeks and just try
to stay in their face. More, but made what was
that switch that made you want to take music serious?
Like I lost a couple of people that was actually
pushing me to do this shit when I didn't want
to do it. You feel what I'm saying. So when
they passed away, its more like, let me make sure
I do.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
They need to get out of that shit.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I also as far as like the street shit right,
like I always asked, cause I remember I have a
lot of like we have a lot of legend and
ship on our show, like oh geez, right, And I
always like to ask dudes like what age, cause somebody
have gotten to you and taking you out of your
environment and stop you from getting into bullshit or being
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in the streets or whatever.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
What age was that?
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I say this to the kids that I always say, like, shit,
we had an opportunity to pick that we wanted a
silver spoon, and it's life.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
We were the one with the silver spoon.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
If somebody want to go through none of this shit
we went through, right, it ain't like we wanted, like
we chose to go through this shit. This shit just happened,
and shit ain't cute, and shit ain't shit ain't cool.
You feel what I'm saying they don't lead to nothing,
but you did or in jail. Facts, do you feel
bad like with the climate of of hip hop like
that with rap rappers being like one of those dangerous
pro professions.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Hell yeah, it just make me be on my shit
more though.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
As far as like what about when you go home,
like is it you know like a lot of people say, ah,
you shouldn't go back to your neighborhood, you shouldn't do this.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, I know I'd be in my neighborhood. Like I
gotta stop that shit, cause everybody ain't happy for you
for sure, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
And you young and like they they it's always somebody
that feel away. Mm, you feel like it should have
been them, But you didn't put into work. Bro, you
wouldn't buy a studio time you was doing another shit
with your money.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You know what I'm saying? Stuff like sacrifice, right, what's that?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Find a lot of motivating you know, people that come
from your neighborhood, but again needing to stay away for
you specifically.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Near like I uh, I went back to the hood. Well,
I always in my hood, but I just gave back
to the to my hood.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Book bags and shit, and I was having security out there.
It just make me feel like, damn, I don't want
a niggas think, bro, Bro Boogie.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Is here, brother and came back with the care you
need double up. And I'm not saying that on some
funny shit.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I'm not saying that. It's just a lot of shit
going on. We just lost hell with people, and I
feel like it's all ego, Bro, It's not even real.
It's all pride and ego. That's why you pop out,
you jump out the car, you lead a car, run
and go in the store. Like that's all ego shit.
That ain't real. It's not real. You know what I'm saying,
Like what you having that thought that I appreciate you
(25:30):
being honest, but what you having that thought also lets
me know that it's still in the back of your mind.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Like, Man, I don't want these niggas to think.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I'm like, yeah, when they thought, really, it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It don't fucking matter, bro, It don't matter. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
And the thing is you're doing more probably for the
community than they are, for sure, and that's probably what
they're jealous of. Does it ever have you like second
guess and want to do this shit, because I'm gonna
be honest with you, like being in im media, being
in this field, like having to report on all this
shut shit, having to talk about it honestly over and over.
I'm finding myself in the in the space of being
not only numb to it, but like obviously sick and
(26:06):
tired of it.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's like, how many more do we have to go through?
Befour motherfuckers?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Wake up?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Do you do you find yourself kind of going through
the same thing or do you have that motivation and
be like, nah, I have a bigger purpose to not
to not give up the nigga basically numb to it
for sure, but not never not too good, but it
just makes me want to make nig just want to
get away even more though, Like even even the people
who helped me get killed, like y'all kids, niggas was
(26:32):
just fed a thousand people right around a thousand people
about to start again.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Right, that's correct, that's true. That's some real shit.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
That's you said you just gave away backpacks like a
back to school drive or something like that. How does that
work when because I know you said that, I think
you dropped out of high school in tenth grade.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
How does that work? Do you do you see some
of the teachers, Like, do you see people?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I've seen my teacher, I seen, I've seen a couple
of teachers.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Fuck, what the what's the what's the what's seen?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
The teachers that I was cool with?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Though, I don't think I seen none of my teachers
that I ain't fuck with.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Most of them was proud. Yeah, yeah, you're planning on
getting your degree.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I got a g ed.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But I don't know, okay for sure about college? No?
You good?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Was that ever in the plan for you? Don't like
in the back of your mind? Did you maybe a
basketball scout?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Mine?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I wanted to be in the NBA, you feel, yeah,
that was and if that ain't work.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I wanted to sell houses. My brother granddad owned like
ninety houses in Michigan. He owned the Missigians. I was
a kid, So that was always something that I liked about.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Ninety got a theater in his house, fountain work, phones
and ship like that.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Always you got a house, two three houses right there.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
But is that something that you plan to get back
into or or something that already that already It's.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
One thing that people don't know about you.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
That that maybe could have been misconceptions just people that
don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Probably people probably think I'm me. I'm really a good
cool nigga.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Man, I thought you you know, you don't take this
wrong way.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I know. Somebody says, with all due.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Respect, disrespect, I got the same problem. But it's because
I'm ugly niggas. What you're saying, ugly niggas, we just.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
You see how you look, you into that ship. We
as the ugly community.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I put him in the group.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Or what I'm saying, like because when you hopped out
the car outside, I'm like, damn, why he's so?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
But you just gotta you just have a white so
what mean?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
But you're not mean though, you're a good dude, like
you got great energy and ship.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
But it's just niggas is ugly. That's yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
So so the problem is that I'll be happy to
I'll be going through the same ship.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Bro. It's that bottom line.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I relate. I relate to this.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It is like grazy, Oh, so what can the folks
expect coming up?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Man?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
What's the plan?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
We always asked this questions, like on the manifestation tip,
like the year can't end without without you doing what like,
what's what's on on my music related or personal whatever
the case is. I want to have like ten houses
before the year out, for sure, for sure do that
bro just on the beers inside. I want to have
like ten houses for the year out. I'm about to
drop set Trember twenty third, New Money. What I got
like sixteen songs, sixteen songs on there? My birthday's like
(29:45):
the day before my birthday.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well, you're a Burger or a Libra, I'm gonna like
the end. Don't set there in twenty seconds.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
He said, figure it out. That's like, no, that's like
both of them. Yeah, Like that's that's interesting. My best
one of my best friends is a libro.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
He ain't ship.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Like I'm glad I'm both of them. My vedroriend he's
a leader. He's a piece of ship.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah. So yeah, but that's dope.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
So as far as the project, like when you drop right,
what's your what's your? Do you how I say it?
You know some of the artists they dropped and they
going crazy. Run, they're gonna they're gonna press they traveling
there on the road or do you drop him? Like
all right them out, I'm finna go chill with my family.
I'm finna kick my feeld for a second because I
was in the studio working on this ship.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I've been trying to take that time out right now
before heat Yeah yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Once the tape drive ship, I probably be on the
move every day. Right, So what do you do to relax?
Right now? That it's low and I'm just fucking with
my people? I can what do you do to relax? Relax?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I've been hooping?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Really, but you really asking for this hoop smoke? Did
Is he like that? He is? Okay? She ain't got
no choice and she on the team. She the one
in the room like, yeah, that'sh it hard, no choice
for real, for real.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
But yeah, I just been hooping, like I said, spent
the time with my family. I was just locked up,
so make me. It made me want to like be
with my people so much. It showed me like, damn, nigga,
be having so much time. You really can take out
and go chill with your people for a minute. When
you when you come home. When you came home, what's
the first thing you did.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Go straight to my people? Yeah, what's the first thing
you ate?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Uh? Fucking corn beef my karn or you had, Like, yeah,
I was a little party for me.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
That's what's up. And then as far as like, do
you remember the first song you recorded?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
The first song I recorded with Table Turns, It's on
the tape.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
How many songs did you record for the project?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
A lot?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
So that my point is how do you how do
you narrow down what actually makes it? Trying to basically
ship that makes sense to the project was going on.
So New Money was like ship at the same we
did Easy Money already I signed my deal, So it's
like I came into some new ship. You feel what
I'm saying. I'm seeing different ship. I'm seeing new ship.
(32:13):
I'm buying new ship. I made new money. You feel
what I'm saying. So something that relate to that name personally.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
What's what's the wildest thing that you person's like?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Fuck?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Why I spend money on that?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Probably when I was drinking glean Glean that's what should
So you came.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
That cup it's done? Yeah, that shit? What that's what's up? Broad?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Since I got a jail like six months.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Bro, that's so dope, bro, because our homie Mazi, that's
my guy. Yeah, Mozzi. He did to Kick the Cup
Challenge fall out of the Rappers out here years ago
and he told us a wild number, bro, He's like
two hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Or something than that. This shit crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
It was like two hundred brand he said. He spending
a year on that ship, bro. And it's like, that's
a lot of money. And I like the fact that
he was opening about it because he and people that
I've been over that's.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
The fuck up. You gotta see where you fuck up
at I've been.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I've been. I haven't drank in six years.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Six about to be the six six year anniversary, right,
But a lot of people go through relapses with draws
and they go back to it and they feel like, fuck,
I fucked up, and it puts them deepens into a depression.
One thing that I liked it he said about it,
he said, look, man, this is this is my lifestyle.
This is what I go through. I'm gonna go through
ups and down. So the fact that he was transparent
about going through those peaks and valleys was because we drinking.
(33:26):
Some people drinking for the high, some people drinking for
the taste, and some people trying to numb. They ship
to where they ain't even thinking about something.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
You feel what I'm saying. I think I was.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Just trying to probably chase the taste because nigga really
ain't going through that much shit.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
If you got to did you feel every day? Did
you feel because I never I never drank before.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I don't even drink alcohol, But uh, did you feel
did you know like you were addicted to it?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
That? Did you feel that? Hell? Yeah, when you drinking
or this ship and you.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Ain't high, damner is crazy you feel I'm saying, you're
about to go buy a fue pull up before night.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You looking for another fuck like sixteen lines in a day.
That's a pint. That's bad.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
So when you when you like, what was the epiphoty,
what was the what was the thing where you.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Looked at yourself and was like, I need to.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Violate and probation off that shit, fucking with my life,
fucking with some big ship up a little bit of nothing. Facts,
that's dope, bro. I'll salute you, Doug. I'll you know,
that's really big. That's a big thing. One to overcome personally,
but two to talk about publicly because you might inspire
another kid. It's a seventeen year old, it's a twenty
(34:33):
year old, twenty two year old somewhere that's watching.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
You, like, damn, if he could do it, shit, I
could do it too, you know, I rather had the money.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Fact and more importantly, again if for whatever, and this
is more a lesson for anybody else is going through
shit like that. If you do slip up, hey, try again.
Don't don't let that dig you deeper into shit. I
can't do it.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Fucking a couple of times you say, fucking man, man, Look,
I'm glad I got it. Any be funny.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
It'd be funny when you're the sober person in the room.
Oh yeah, you're watching everybody else. That should be so funny.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
What's the biggest apivity that you've had in that situation?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Like watching nigga?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Why you like seeing other people as the sober one?
Now do you look at it like that's what.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I was doing? Look like I was a real ass.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I was a crackhead. Basically, can catch yourself sleep dumb
his here?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Hey, bro, I think one. I'm one. Like I said,
I'm happy for you too.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm glad we got a chance to drop it up
because I was really like, I was really not until
I listened to the live the last project, I was like,
I just didn't.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I wasn't. I wasn't so that shit hard. I would
tell appreciate it, bro, I appreciate it. I would definitely
tell you. I want to know.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Please tell So I listened to the New Ship, I'm
gonna hit you be like, nah, this ain't it?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Or no, I need you to tell me that make
me work ten times already?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Is there anything you want the people to know as
you on this run where you kind of have the
damn time Now I'm gonna kick back up. Yeah, I
got so much shit coming, man, I just need you
to rock with me.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
You're about to see all this ship I got nice
people on him.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I have to take New Money set to twenty third,
try to give y'all something in the missing for.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
The year, and go out as you should.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Let me ask you one last question. Do you get annoyed?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Let's say that the pro when the project does drop,
and there will be people that's gonna do it that
hit you the next day, the next week, a swim
the next one.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
That push you off for I just dropped that you
like but this one up, Like yeah, like damn, but
it's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
But I got to set up to her. I'm gonna
drop every two weeks, so you'll have to ask me
that smart make sure.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I But that's a good problem to have too, because
it's like people are tapped in obviously it's what you
got going on, and they you know, it could be worse.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You know, people could not ask you ship.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, you know what you're for sure?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Man, is there anybody that that has tapped in with
you that's kind of surprised you that that fuck with
you or fuck with your music?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Ship? Yeah? Yeah, dinner everybody tapped in.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I'm talking about that one thing where it's like, damn,
I don't even know this person was even knew who
I was. Like that, No, not for real, I don't
really be you don't be tripping.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
No, I don't know why it already.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, but I'm saying, bro, like you come home right,
you fresh out, You gotta you get it, you get
a nice deal, like everything is going your way. You
gotta have a moment to be to be in the moment, bro,
like you gotta sit down and be.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Like I need to start doing that, Bro, op. Yeah,
start doing that. I'd be so much on the move
and I just start absorbing.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I had to learn how to do it too, because
I don't want to do that, but just sit and
be like, damn, this is some real cool shit happening
right now. I gotta fuck their mindset. I'm being there
just looking like manure. I ain't even learn about the
moment where I'm looking like the medal protector you want here.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I still got my hood mine there when I need
to stop that ship?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Do you ever trip out on? You know obviously where
you're at right now. When you first started, it was
a goal, right and now that you're you're here, what
would you tell the seventeen to sixteen year old Don't
give up, manifest that ship. Believe in yourself. Confidence is everything.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Do you fuck with books? No?
Speaker 1 (38:13):
I read a couple when I was in there for real,
for real, man, I'm telling it to movies. I don't
think I was fucking what you do the acting? Hell yeah,
I actually just I was just in the movie that
just came up. It's called Get Paid This on two really.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, I gotta check that out. Yeah, I only got
one seeing that that's fine. I got to see if
they let you be in it. I know I'm they
gotta be fun.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Thank you for coming to Troy's own Detroit owned stand up.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
You know what I'm saying. Tune in New Money September
twenty third.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
You know Rocky Maybe Money is homegrown radio Chuck Dizzle
DJ Head We'll catch you all next time.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
No hack boom
All right, We're back at it Homegrown Radio. Chuck Gizzl
DJ head Sir, we got Detroit in the building. Still
on that time, been here over running off day. You
know what I'm saying, maybe money, what's up?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Man? Sat with y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Appreciate you pulling on up.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I appreciate you. Man. Welcome bro before we get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
See, I'm that guy, right, It's a guy like that
in every city that you go to. I'm one of
them niggas. So I'm gonna tell you the truth. I
didn't think I was gonna like your music, you did know.
When I first heard of you, I was like, I
don't know, it's like another baby, like I got enough babies.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I don't don't.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I'm not interested in having the kids anytime soon. Ship.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
But when I listened to it was an easy money right,
and then I think I went back.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I think I went back one.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
But I listened to easy Money and I was like, damn,
this ship actually is.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's actually hard.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And I'm not even and I'm be honest with you,
it's kind of alienating.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
The easy Money album is ailing it because I'm not
a rich.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Nigga like I feel like the money is for rich niggas, right, No,
that's what everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Nah, bro, don't do that. No, no, no, no, no it's not.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Every song is married this And I can't pronounce some
of the ship on the album because I don't know,
like we were like his wife got these four us?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
How you feel about these that actually wear?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
But no, I felt like when I first when I first, like,
listen to the album all the way through because I
like the press play and let it run before I
go back and listen to pick through it or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I feel like nobody does that anymore. Everybody just go
to their song looking here one time.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
But like, yeah, so I like, I just put it
on and let it run in the house while I
was doing ship, and I'm like, I love the beat selection,
but I like the fact that you it sound like
you right to the beat, you know how like some people,
like some artists will be like, I already got something
for this, they right before they hear it. Am I
wrong in assuming that you right to the music?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah? Like I haven't like actually used a.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Pin and not right like that, But I mean I'm
talking about yeah, I barrot for bar everything, Like so
you hear the beat and there to beating. I just
go because a lot of artists they they they'll take
a sixteen if they wrote and just put.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It on this ramp that they already have for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
But I could tell, like when I'm listening to your
music sonically, I can tell you like you in there
marriaging the music to show you gotta listen to the
beat for a minute, that's what's up.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Have you tried it the other way?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Have you tried like different styles and kind of feel
like what works for you?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
You just know that I locked it on this.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
This was I think I've been like so it was
like when I first started rapping, I was doing he
was just saying, like, write some ship down. By the
time it was time to do a song, I already
got some shit beating everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
To the punch.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
But it used to be times I sit in the
studio like hot people from the city, and I see
you just come in and do it that ship so quick,
and you got a nigga, I got to listen to
this big for a minute.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
You gold on.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I got something this clearly. I gotta listen to the
beg for a hour.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
He going five minutes you know, I'm nigga slowing the
song Now, I'm not like, oh I want them here,
so when I finally got a chance to sit in there.
But oh, it's really easy, really just going for real,
for real, taking your time by making sure everything makes sense.
I've been stuck on it, and I learned that ship
when I was like seventeen twenty five.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Now when you gonna.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Say, what's interesting about that is that you learned that.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
It seems that you learned early like how to get
out of your own comfort zone and learn how to
apply that. Yeah, that's that's dope, because you don't want
to be the person slowing the song up when it's
ten good ass rappers and everybody looking at you too.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
You ain't got nothing yet, your turn? Take your turn
real like held up.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
When you so when you say you write bar for bar,
what does that look like? That? Don't that take the
long ass time?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Not for me.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I think I've been doing it for so long that
it's like.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
It seemed like it would take longer once I might
top of the bar recorded, do another ball recorded, and.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I record myself.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
That's the thing, So I know I noticed that that's irritating,
like when the engineer you gotta keep that nisure playing
go back time and his mind like he got to
do this because he getting paid.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
It's like not no problem to.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
You when you looking at it for him, like, man,
this nigga take the four hours one song.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So when I find out that you really don't got
to do nothing but press three to record yourself, I
got addicted to the like so.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
You so all? So let's say the whole album, like
Easy Money, you recorded yourself most of the songs. Yeah,
other than like a couple with hell of a hell damn.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
That's interesting because I remember talking we had we like
are artists out here?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
His name is problem.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And then also we talked to Nipsey and they both
have the similar thing where they kind of felt their
comfort zone in recording themselves. So how is that transition
when you do go to work with somebody else? Is
it like a big adjustment?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Nah? But I do catch myself by the time like
that move real quick.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Let me let me get to that, because you probably
ain't moving that paid.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I want to go.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I want to go, like because my mom, I'm thinking
I don't I don't think of just one bar. Like
when I go in there, I'm gonna think of four
or five bars to go real quick.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Then we go on to the next four or five bars.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Word literally, is there anything that you need in the
studio to kind of like help inspire or kind of
just like kickstarters like once, it's just literally to be
I always need one of my people in there because
the engineer job is to make sure he get paid.
So sometimes you can't listen to the engineer. The engineer
gonna tell you, oh no, that's shit hard he getting
one hundred an hour.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
He wants you to go ahead. That's hard to tell you.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Feel me, I need somebody who ain't gonna tell me
like no, I don't think you should say that. I
love that because a gag. Okay again, like I told
you at the beginning, I'm that guy.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So I go to everybody's studio.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Session out here and I'm like, no, that ain't it
that shit? We No, I'll be having a like way
no people like him in his position out here, they
all be mad at me.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
As I was in there, I kept going out the studio.
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But you don't got to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I like It's just something that I regularly. Do you
feel what I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Saying, So you're not opposed to you like people telling
you nah that shit, they didn't gonna rewrite your whole
because like, at the end of the day, if you
my people's ship, this is a reflection you too. When
they like when they be like, no baby, money week
is hell, they're really talking about all of us, that
the whole crew.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So that's fire. But I love that. So you you
okay with constructive criticism. You okay with like, yeah, so somebody,
have anybody ever told you that they don't like your music?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I don't know. I don't know. I don't think they
never told me that.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
My brother, I got a brother, that's he the most
hardest person ever to make happy with this ship, like
my big brother where he had played it.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I could play the hardest song to him.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
This song in the world can make the whole room move.
I think you can go harder that ship.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, Like, damn, you just watched me working on this
for something.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Can you bop your head for a second least give
me here? Probably then I played something three months later.
Oh no, it's hard like Bro, you was in the studio.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
You just told me you like this.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Do you think that that's something that's he's doing that
to make you go harder? Or is it really like
just his taste and music he wanted me to. I
feel like he see what I actually can do. You
feel the potential, So it's probably is like no, I
don't like that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I feel like you could have said something more crazy,
even if you said.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Some crazy, So it holds a little more weight when
you actually do something that he's impressed by.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
It's like, oh shit if he says it's good.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
If he said it like I was just I was
just shooting the video the other day.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I'm like, man, what video should I shoot? I called
him and said, bro, what song should I shoot? Right here?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
He instantly went to his phone. This is all I've
been listening to every day. Damn, I'm gonna shoot that real.
So he like it must be out of here. Yes, yes, right, yes,
something I want to talk to you about. What is
the Detroit sound? And I feel like it's had Like
obviously everybody every region get they they they moment right
at that time for everybody get they moment. But I
feel like Detroit like came in, came in, and it's
(07:53):
kind of like having a run where it don't seem
like it's slowing down at all. Like I mean, you
have other people that have come and gone and not
really you know, in the forefront of things anymore. But
I don't need to get into the names. But what's
interesting to me is the tempo and the sound of it.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I love that ship because I'm so.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh man god bro like and nothing again again, just
full transparency.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I'm biased as I'm on West Coast. I'm just I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I just love our ship more than I love my
ship more than I love your ship, Florida. Out of
the fun. I'm biased to our ship. I'm born and
raised here. That's how I was supposed to feel.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But that's like us with the lions, like they might
not win one.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
To us, like they don't get one. I'm just saying,
we got to keep it the buck, bro. But I'm
just I mean, but there's a such thing as ugly babies.
And if your baby is ugly, you still supposed to.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Love it it, see it, right?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
So you you you coach tuning to know that they're
ugly babies. They're there are such as ugly babies. Hell, no,
there is such babies. Babies is fine.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know you've seen.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
You turned down.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I'm stinking.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I'm telling you was a baby, right, are you a father?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
But what I was gonna say was is I'm tired
of these like just slow ass like drugs, like not
drug out, but dragged out like tempos.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And that's but the drudge a slow down.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
And I feel like I feel like the Detroit movement
is I could relate to it because it's tempo involved.
I mean, it's that ship moving on our feet with
it moving? Do you do you?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
How do I say? This does that?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That does Detroit or the area the region identified as
having that sound?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Because I know, like when you ever heard of the
term to west coast, so out.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Here we'll hear people say from Atlanta, people from New York,
they'll come out here to be like this ship too
west coast. I don't know what the fuck that means,
but I ain't never heard nobody say this ship too midwest,
this ship too east coast, this is too south, Like
you never heard an outcast record or future record and
somebody said this ship is too south. Well no, no,
they'll come in the trap, they'll say trap, it's too trapped.
(10:21):
They say that, Yeah, I've heard people say that. So
from your section, right in your section, do you do
y'all identify? Do y'all have that conversation at all? Or
is that like not even something that spoke about.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Or just music? It's just music?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Really, why why do you think that? Well?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
From from my perspective, I feel like the support is
very important, and that's another thing that kind of holds
the city up.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
From your perspective, how is the support from your side
coming up, coming up, and the people that are in
the game right now that kind of embrace you.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
How important is that?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Because I think that's one thing that other cities can
kind of take from in order to kind of like
get so Like everybody I show was so underground for
so long. Everybody got to know each other before this
shit even happened. Got it, Like it's so small we
even gonna end up at the same studio together, or
your man's gonna end up being my men's in some
way fucking around, end up being cousins.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
That's how small Detraited is really for real.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
So it's like the support crazy because I knew all
these things before they get on. So it's like when
they do get on, they posted my music, they put
me on they platform, they helping me grow at the
same time. What was there ever a turning moment where
you feel like that the the city more embraced each
other at at the time. Cause I feel like, again,
every every section, every region has those people that say, man,
(11:36):
the city don't support us.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
The city don't you know, show us love like they should.
Was there ever a.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Turning moment that you feel from your perspectives as Detroit,
You know what I'm saying, that's like kind of turn
it around and start supporting more than than it happened.
I don't think it was no moment every but ever
since Tea signs like people have been getting signed, I
can say that gotch you like that that changed since dude,
I wanted to ask you about as far as like
being in from that region you signed the qc uh huh,
(12:04):
and that's obviously like a southern, a Southern entity, but
being at the Midwest is so rich in music history.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
What made you wanna sign to a Southern label?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Uh? It really wasn't about the uh southern or nothing
like that. It was more like they pushed they artists
day facts. Even if they got they got a little
baby on their me they got like the hottest people
in the world, and they still take their time out
to push the people they just signed.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
They still they still.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Hustling like they nobody You feel what I'm saying. Good,
So that was the one thing to hustle. I know
that they're gonna help me. Shit, we gonna help each
other win at the same time. And that's something they
always dreamed about, Like you know when you was a kid,
like if I had to.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Sign somebody right now to be QC word. You feel
what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
So how long we how long before you was dreaming
about that to actually happened.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Uh? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I wrote p in two thousand eighteen, told them you
gonna be signing me soon.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Shit, I got signed last year for real. Yeah what
you mean? You wrote him? Like you DM? I DM him?
Did he did he see it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
That's how I ended up getting in contact with him
when they first good when when we first got on
the phone, he end up d M me back to
that and then I talked to him on the phone.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
He's like, y'all, I see your message.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Say, that's crazy, Like I had to write you back
because I feel like I missed it.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Oh yeah, they got to add an extra digit on
the contract. He played waiting, Yeah, you await your turn
and also saw also you just said something about you know,
every everybody as far as like you winning and ship
like that.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
How many people is on your team?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Because I watched I saw a video you and you
was like, Bro, I'm tying, I'm putting all my homies
on and then.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I looked in the back and it was like nineteen niggs. Yeah,
I got like I got eight brothers and sisters.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You said eighty eight.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Hey, I like, bro, ain't Yes, I got eight brothers
and sister ship.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
So it's nine of y'all.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah that's wild.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
But like, so y'all have the same parent mama, same mom. Yeah,
your mom's a angster, bro, Damn she's still with us. Bro,
you need to buy your mom so from the street, Bro,
she had nine kids.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Where are you on?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Where in the middle, like right in the middle, seventh
five this nigga, I'm thinking of some other ship.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
So okay, I'm thinking I'm thinking, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I think I'm at five. I'm like number five for sure,
soddle child. Yeah, I'm number six. Okay, so you you
a little bit later on which one gotta go to
the military, the military, the middle child, right, No, it
will be five, not six. I'm good. I know that's
(14:40):
what I'm stright.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I'm not going that's so wait.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I remember you saying that you got your name because
it was always the youngest and you have money.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
But you're the middle child, so yeah, it wasn't like
the youngest.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
That's like the kids I always hung with grown people
got my whole life. So how was How was the
family in terms of like supporting music, Like how's mom's
like when when you first start doing it? My mom
would be mad as hell and I say ship, and
I'd be my song like what I just say? I
said old thirteen, I was scamming niggas with my mom. She'd
be on that like why the fuck would you say
(15:16):
that on the song?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Though, Like even if we did do that back, she'd
be mad. Bro Okay, that leads me to my next point.
She'd be saying, like, you know, you said my name
in there.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Do I get some money off of that cause you.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
To my next point.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I was listening to to your to your music, and
I'm like, obviously they just started doing this, but they
charging people for their lyrics and ship like that, Like
do you think about that now going forward making the
new music or you ain't tripping they charge what they
charging niggas They using people's lyrics against them in court,
like for different things like based on what your mom
just what your mom said.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
To you too, Like why the I think I say fake? Yeah,
there you go there. I like this, it ain't real.
I like this. Let's put that ship that right.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
If music wasn't a thing, what what was the thing
that that that you were into prior to basketball? Fucking
it up real quick? I saw you say you can hoop,
but like I ain't just saying it either. Okay, but
when you but how tall he I'm five eleven. Okay,
when you say you can hoop though I can hoop hoop?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Do you have you seen other other celebrities. I've seen
Quavo Hoo. It's cool.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I fucked Kavo up, Ja Cole Dirks.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I feel like anybody could be J Cole J Cole hard.
You're tripping. He better than you, not me, But he's.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Though. Have you seen Chris Brown play basketball?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
No, I watched.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I watched j Cole Dirk ship. I've seen Quava ship
for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I don't, I ain't. I don't think I've seen Dirk play.
But I've seen Chris.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Brown working out with What's what's doing name Chris Berkeley.
M hm. I seen Chris Brown play bro and Breezy
got game Bro. I ain't never seen him playing. He could,
he could, he could hoop bro. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
You feel like you feel like you you like up there,
you like one of them ones when they come to music.
It ain't just the confidence either. Is there anybody that
can get you, that can beat me?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
That you because I ain't nobody. Ain't nobody be arrogant.
You hear me, I'm gonna be arrogant because I just.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Said once people see some ship.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Is there any type of footage out there? Anybody breaking
your ankles?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Hell no, not none of the type of It's some
footge out there.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And Nigga hit me so hard in football when I
was like eleven, I never played it.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
He was like to hit my head so hard on
the gate. I never played football again? Are you better
at as far as hooping? Right? Are you better defense? Offense?
With offense? Both? Ship? Like what's your game though? Like
inside you got a jumper and I can shoot that
bitch good to the rib he said, everything is good.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And badid Lebron James, Bro, you gotta have a weak spot. Yeah,
why would I say when niggas come at me, they're
gonna have it.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Look at this nigga the celebrity games, so.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
He fresh meat. You feel they gonna know everything already? Dude, Man,
who do you?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Who do you look for?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Is there anybody that you're looking forward to working and
working with? Is there any people on on the mind
that you got that. She's like, man, look I gotta
get it in with them.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Really everybody but dirt dirt baby?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
What's cuse? Like? Oh? Cool? Cause like Anthony Hamilton, I
want to do Really, I think that would be dope.
I just like I like the song Cool. I think
that I think you and Hamilton be dope.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
But I like all the young people right now, like
our whole generation going crazy. So I say everybody when
when it comes to trying to work with people at
this point, do you try to let the music speak
speak for itself and just like let the business handle
or are you a person that's like wants to reach
out to people like, look, I'm gonna work, let's ge,
let's get it in.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I ain't.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I ain't not through d MS, I ain't I ain't
into the d M and ship. But if I see
you out, I ain't gonna bite. I ain't gonna hold
my tongue. Let me know you're a fan, whatever the case.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, for Shure, for show, I don't look at it crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I think that's important cause a lot of a lot
of times people hold their tongue on that.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It's like, damn, you could be blocking your blessings, but saying.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Something real that's getting you Like I'm already signed to QC.
They got me in the room, but they ain't gonna
talk for me. Yeah you feel what I'm saying. When
is the last time you use the QC name for
you know anything? No, I think they see I always
got this own, So I really, I really ain't gotta
say it.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I ain't gonna you try to get.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Some like free food or some ship.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
They give it to me, they give it to me
for show for sure that ship crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
You be running that ship up.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
That I charging as you should. I'm charging.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I used to I used to work fun when I
first started radio. I used to do.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I used to part with the station vehicle and pull
up a different spots and get free food on nobody
gonna Nobody gonna say shit. Man, come on, hey, I
shot you over the radio southing me some you know,
a free free.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Food should have got out of love in it right now.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
So it's like it's it's kind of almost at the
point like that, hey, where everybody helping each other. I
want to go back to something you said about when
you brought up your moms and the music, and I
remember I wrote this down because I wanted to ask
you about it.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
On the song Mine on It, that's a song I
like that song.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
On the song Mine on It, though you said mom
told me to stop sipping. You got a belly, So
is your mom's with one? Is your mom's like hold
you accountable, like for the ship.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
You be you be doing and like she get on
your ass.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Off top you wanna act girl, You're gonna whatever, come
with it right, So your moms and then your brother
are your two. Those two are the ones who.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Kind of keep you.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Had all my brothers close as hell, like ain't none
of us really have our daddy? My my daddy the
only person that he did, but ain't none of us
really have our days? So we was really close as here.
We come from one fight. We all fight like it
could be a one on one. We got to get jumped.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Cause uh yeah, yeah, no points that a fighter so.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
D down when it came to as far as shit,
you say, y'all close as hell, So y'all never beeped
over like we beat at the time, somebody ate the
last pop tart like I now, we were little shit
like that, we showed pay. We used to like play
each other for our clothes.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Like you got something sweeter than me, Like we gonna
play like m I come.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
From a basketball family, like my hood. I grew up
with Derreck Comen. We played for seventy six. It's like
my whole hood played basketball. Like every person you see
play basketball in my hood. So we come from that
competition like, oh, you got some better pratice than me.
Let's play one on one for 'em and then you
gotta come out of 'em right right there, right there, and.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
You you give 'em to somebody, somebody gonna be in
the sideline. Both parents?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Shit crazy? What if you you never lost any of them?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
You know, I lost a couple.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I'm making sure I got some sweet ass brothers.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
My brother so your brother's is nicer than you? Yeah, fuck.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
You gotta admit it might as well be fasts.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Does anybody Do anybody else in your family do music?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, both of my brothers demo, jabo, Okay, a couple
of my friends do it. I remember you said your brother. Uh,
I think you said one of your brothers was rapping
before you.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, damo. He called himself dizzy. So you got introduced
to rapping through your brother. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
It's somebody from my hood to His name was motherfucker. Nah,
he was rapping back in the day. His name is nah.
What made you cause I remember you s uh. You
started really taking it serious like two twenty nineteen, about
twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, I started really driving my clear bubba. I had
like a little game planning to where.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I'n'na drop a video a two weeks and just try
to stay in their face. More, but made what was
that switch that made you want to take music serious?
Like I lost a couple of people that was actually
pushing me to do this shit when I didn't want
to do it. You feel what I'm saying. So when
they passed away, its more like, let me make sure
I do.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
They need to get out of that shit.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I also as far as like the street shit right,
like I always asked, cause I remember I have a
lot of like we have a lot of legend and
ship on our show, like oh geez, right, And I
always like to ask dudes like what age, cause somebody
have gotten to you and taking you out of your
environment and stop you from getting into bullshit or being
(23:39):
in the streets or whatever.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
What age was that?
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I say this to the kids that I always say, like, shit,
we had an opportunity to pick that we wanted a
silver spoon, and it's life.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
We were the one with the silver spoon.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
If somebody want to go through none of this shit
we went through, right, it ain't like we wanted, like
we chose to go through this shit. This shit just happened,
and shit ain't cute, and shit ain't shit ain't cool.
You feel what I'm saying they don't lead to nothing,
but you did or in jail. Facts, do you feel
bad like with the climate of of hip hop like
that with rap rappers being like one of those dangerous
pro professions.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Hell yeah, it just make me be on my shit
more though.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
As far as like what about when you go home,
like is it you know like a lot of people say, ah,
you shouldn't go back to your neighborhood, you shouldn't do this.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, I know I'd be in my neighborhood. Like I
gotta stop that shit, cause everybody ain't happy for you
for sure, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
And you young and like they they it's always somebody
that feel away. Mm, you feel like it should have
been them, But you didn't put into work. Bro, you
wouldn't buy a studio time you was doing another shit
with your money.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You know what I'm saying? Stuff like sacrifice, right, what's that?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Find a lot of motivating you know, people that come
from your neighborhood, but again needing to stay away for
you specifically.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Near like I uh, I went back to the hood. Well,
I always in my hood, but I just gave back
to the to my hood.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Book bags and shit, and I was having security out there.
It just make me feel like, damn, I don't want
a niggas think, bro, Bro Boogie.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Is here, brother and came back with the care you
need double up. And I'm not saying that on some
funny shit.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I'm not saying that. It's just a lot of shit
going on. We just lost hell with people, and I
feel like it's all ego, Bro, It's not even real.
It's all pride and ego. That's why you pop out,
you jump out the car, you lead a car, run
and go in the store. Like that's all ego shit.
That ain't real. It's not real. You know what I'm saying,
Like what you having that thought that I appreciate you
(25:30):
being honest, but what you having that thought also lets
me know that it's still in the back of your mind.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Like, Man, I don't want these niggas to think.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I'm like, yeah, when they thought, really, it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It don't fucking matter, bro, It don't matter. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
And the thing is you're doing more probably for the
community than they are, for sure, and that's probably what
they're jealous of. Does it ever have you like second
guess and want to do this shit, because I'm gonna
be honest with you, like being in im media, being
in this field, like having to report on all this
shut shit, having to talk about it honestly over and over.
I'm finding myself in the in the space of being
not only numb to it, but like obviously sick and
(26:06):
tired of it.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's like, how many more do we have to go through?
Befour motherfuckers?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Wake up?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Do you do you find yourself kind of going through
the same thing or do you have that motivation and
be like, nah, I have a bigger purpose to not
to not give up the nigga basically numb to it
for sure, but not never not too good, but it
just makes me want to make nig just want to
get away even more though, Like even even the people
who helped me get killed, like y'all kids, niggas was
(26:32):
just fed a thousand people right around a thousand people
about to start again.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Right, that's correct, that's true. That's some real shit.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
That's you said you just gave away backpacks like a
back to school drive or something like that. How does that
work when because I know you said that, I think
you dropped out of high school in tenth grade.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
How does that work? Do you do you see some
of the teachers, Like, do you see people?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I've seen my teacher, I seen, I've seen a couple
of teachers.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Fuck, what the what's the what's the what's seen?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
The teachers that I was cool with?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Though, I don't think I seen none of my teachers
that I ain't fuck with.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Most of them was proud. Yeah, yeah, you're planning on
getting your degree.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I got a g ed.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But I don't know, okay for sure about college? No?
You good?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Was that ever in the plan for you? Don't like
in the back of your mind? Did you maybe a
basketball scout?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Mine?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I wanted to be in the NBA, you feel, yeah,
that was and if that ain't work.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I wanted to sell houses. My brother granddad owned like
ninety houses in Michigan. He owned the Missigians. I was
a kid, So that was always something that I liked about.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Ninety got a theater in his house, fountain work, phones
and ship like that.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Always you got a house, two three houses right there.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
But is that something that you plan to get back
into or or something that already that already It's.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
One thing that people don't know about you.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
That that maybe could have been misconceptions just people that
don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Probably people probably think I'm me. I'm really a good
cool nigga.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Man, I thought you you know, you don't take this
wrong way.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I know. Somebody says, with all due.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Respect, disrespect, I got the same problem. But it's because
I'm ugly niggas. What you're saying, ugly niggas, we just.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
You see how you look, you into that ship. We
as the ugly community.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I put him in the group.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Or what I'm saying, like because when you hopped out
the car outside, I'm like, damn, why he's so?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
But you just gotta you just have a white so
what mean?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
But you're not mean though, you're a good dude, like
you got great energy and ship.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
But it's just niggas is ugly. That's yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
So so the problem is that I'll be happy to
I'll be going through the same ship.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Bro. It's that bottom line.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I relate. I relate to this.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It is like grazy, Oh, so what can the folks
expect coming up?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Man?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
What's the plan?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
We always asked this questions, like on the manifestation tip,
like the year can't end without without you doing what like,
what's what's on on my music related or personal whatever
the case is. I want to have like ten houses
before the year out, for sure, for sure do that
bro just on the beers inside. I want to have
like ten houses for the year out. I'm about to
drop set Trember twenty third, New Money. What I got
like sixteen songs, sixteen songs on there? My birthday's like
(29:45):
the day before my birthday.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well, you're a Burger or a Libra, I'm gonna like
the end. Don't set there in twenty seconds.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
He said, figure it out. That's like, no, that's like
both of them. Yeah, Like that's that's interesting. My best
one of my best friends is a libro.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
He ain't ship.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Like I'm glad I'm both of them. My vedroriend he's
a leader. He's a piece of ship.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah. So yeah, but that's dope.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
So as far as the project, like when you drop right,
what's your what's your? Do you how I say it?
You know some of the artists they dropped and they
going crazy. Run, they're gonna they're gonna press they traveling
there on the road or do you drop him? Like
all right them out, I'm finna go chill with my family.
I'm finna kick my feeld for a second because I
was in the studio working on this ship.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I've been trying to take that time out right now
before heat Yeah yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Once the tape drive ship, I probably be on the
move every day. Right, So what do you do to relax?
Right now? That it's low and I'm just fucking with
my people? I can what do you do to relax? Relax?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I've been hooping?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Really, but you really asking for this hoop smoke? Did
Is he like that? He is? Okay? She ain't got
no choice and she on the team. She the one
in the room like, yeah, that'sh it hard, no choice
for real, for real.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
But yeah, I just been hooping, like I said, spent
the time with my family. I was just locked up,
so make me. It made me want to like be
with my people so much. It showed me like, damn, nigga,
be having so much time. You really can take out
and go chill with your people for a minute. When
you when you come home. When you came home, what's
the first thing you did.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Go straight to my people? Yeah, what's the first thing
you ate?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Uh? Fucking corn beef my karn or you had, Like, yeah,
I was a little party for me.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
That's what's up. And then as far as like, do
you remember the first song you recorded?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
The first song I recorded with Table Turns, It's on
the tape.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
How many songs did you record for the project?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
A lot?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
So that my point is how do you how do
you narrow down what actually makes it? Trying to basically
ship that makes sense to the project was going on.
So New Money was like ship at the same we
did Easy Money already I signed my deal, So it's
like I came into some new ship. You feel what
I'm saying. I'm seeing different ship. I'm seeing new ship.
(32:13):
I'm buying new ship. I made new money. You feel
what I'm saying. So something that relate to that name personally.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
What's what's the wildest thing that you person's like?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Fuck?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Why I spend money on that?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Probably when I was drinking glean Glean that's what should
So you came.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
That cup it's done? Yeah, that shit? What that's what's up? Broad?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Since I got a jail like six months.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Bro, that's so dope, bro, because our homie Mazi, that's
my guy. Yeah, Mozzi. He did to Kick the Cup
Challenge fall out of the Rappers out here years ago
and he told us a wild number, bro, He's like
two hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Or something than that. This shit crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
It was like two hundred brand he said. He spending
a year on that ship, bro. And it's like, that's
a lot of money. And I like the fact that
he was opening about it because he and people that
I've been over that's.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
The fuck up. You gotta see where you fuck up
at I've been.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I've been. I haven't drank in six years.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Six about to be the six six year anniversary, right,
But a lot of people go through relapses with draws
and they go back to it and they feel like, fuck,
I fucked up, and it puts them deepens into a depression.
One thing that I liked it he said about it,
he said, look, man, this is this is my lifestyle.
This is what I go through. I'm gonna go through
ups and down. So the fact that he was transparent
about going through those peaks and valleys was because we drinking.
(33:26):
Some people drinking for the high, some people drinking for
the taste, and some people trying to numb. They ship
to where they ain't even thinking about something.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
You feel what I'm saying. I think I was.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Just trying to probably chase the taste because nigga really
ain't going through that much shit.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
If you got to did you feel every day? Did
you feel because I never I never drank before.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I don't even drink alcohol, But uh, did you feel
did you know like you were addicted to it?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
That? Did you feel that? Hell? Yeah, when you drinking
or this ship and you.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Ain't high, damner is crazy you feel I'm saying, you're
about to go buy a fue pull up before night.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You looking for another fuck like sixteen lines in a day.
That's a pint. That's bad.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
So when you when you like, what was the epiphoty,
what was the what was the thing where you.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Looked at yourself and was like, I need to.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Violate and probation off that shit, fucking with my life,
fucking with some big ship up a little bit of nothing. Facts,
that's dope, bro. I'll salute you, Doug. I'll you know,
that's really big. That's a big thing. One to overcome personally,
but two to talk about publicly because you might inspire
another kid. It's a seventeen year old, it's a twenty
(34:33):
year old, twenty two year old somewhere that's watching.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
You, like, damn, if he could do it, shit, I
could do it too, you know, I rather had the money.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Fact and more importantly, again if for whatever, and this
is more a lesson for anybody else is going through
shit like that. If you do slip up, hey, try again.
Don't don't let that dig you deeper into shit. I
can't do it.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Fucking a couple of times you say, fucking man, man, Look,
I'm glad I got it. Any be funny.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
It'd be funny when you're the sober person in the room.
Oh yeah, you're watching everybody else. That should be so funny.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
What's the biggest apivity that you've had in that situation?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Like watching nigga?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Why you like seeing other people as the sober one?
Now do you look at it like that's what.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I was doing? Look like I was a real ass.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I was a crackhead. Basically, can catch yourself sleep dumb
his here?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Hey, bro, I think one. I'm one. Like I said,
I'm happy for you too.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm glad we got a chance to drop it up
because I was really like, I was really not until
I listened to the live the last project, I was like,
I just didn't.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I wasn't. I wasn't so that shit hard. I would
tell appreciate it, bro, I appreciate it. I would definitely
tell you. I want to know.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Please tell So I listened to the New Ship, I'm
gonna hit you be like, nah, this ain't it?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Or no, I need you to tell me that make
me work ten times already?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Is there anything you want the people to know as
you on this run where you kind of have the
damn time Now I'm gonna kick back up. Yeah, I
got so much shit coming, man, I just need you
to rock with me.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
You're about to see all this ship I got nice
people on him.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I have to take New Money set to twenty third,
try to give y'all something in the missing for.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
The year, and go out as you should.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Let me ask you one last question. Do you get annoyed?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Let's say that the pro when the project does drop,
and there will be people that's gonna do it that
hit you the next day, the next week, a swim
the next one.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
That push you off for I just dropped that you
like but this one up, Like yeah, like damn, but
it's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
But I got to set up to her. I'm gonna
drop every two weeks, so you'll have to ask me
that smart make sure.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I But that's a good problem to have too, because
it's like people are tapped in obviously it's what you
got going on, and they you know, it could be worse.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You know, people could not ask you ship.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, you know what you're for sure?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Man, is there anybody that that has tapped in with
you that's kind of surprised you that that fuck with
you or fuck with your music?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Ship? Yeah? Yeah, dinner everybody tapped in.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I'm talking about that one thing where it's like, damn,
I don't even know this person was even knew who
I was. Like that, No, not for real, I don't
really be you don't be tripping.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
No, I don't know why it already.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, but I'm saying, bro, like you come home right,
you fresh out, You gotta you get it, you get
a nice deal, like everything is going your way. You
gotta have a moment to be to be in the moment, bro,
like you gotta sit down and be.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Like I need to start doing that, Bro, op. Yeah,
start doing that. I'd be so much on the move
and I just start absorbing.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I had to learn how to do it too, because
I don't want to do that, but just sit and
be like, damn, this is some real cool shit happening
right now. I gotta fuck their mindset. I'm being there
just looking like manure. I ain't even learn about the
moment where I'm looking like the medal protector you want here.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I still got my hood mine there when I need
to stop that ship?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Do you ever trip out on? You know obviously where
you're at right now. When you first started, it was
a goal, right and now that you're you're here, what
would you tell the seventeen to sixteen year old Don't
give up, manifest that ship. Believe in yourself. Confidence is everything.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Do you fuck with books? No?
Speaker 1 (38:13):
I read a couple when I was in there for real,
for real, man, I'm telling it to movies. I don't
think I was fucking what you do the acting? Hell yeah,
I actually just I was just in the movie that
just came up. It's called Get Paid This on two really.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, I gotta check that out. Yeah, I only got
one seeing that that's fine. I got to see if
they let you be in it. I know I'm they
gotta be fun.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Thank you for coming to Troy's own Detroit owned stand up.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
You know what I'm saying. Tune in New Money September
twenty third.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
You know Rocky Maybe Money is homegrown radio Chuck Dizzle
DJ Head We'll catch you all next time.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
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