November 14, 2022 • 41 mins
On this episode Chuck Dizzle & DJ HED remember Takeoff of the Migos, Lebron James' attempt to pay homage, new music from Drake & 21 Savage + what privilege Elon Musk has.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
I got added Home Gone Radio, Chuck Dizzle headl from
five Factory Studios, and on we gotta start off the
show man, I said, rest in peace. Take off, Man
and peace take off, and we go. Very unfortunate situation,
definitely avoidable. Obviously. I feel bad for Takeoff because you know,
he was like he always seemed to be the most
(00:34):
low key one, super chill, super chill, always just chilling, right,
But then you gotta feel bad for everybody else involved.
It's just I never thought that the Migo story within
like this, right, and not even well technically this ended,
but because of because it's not Migos with all three, right,
But I never see I never saw this coming, Like
(00:57):
I never saw no. I'm just saying I never or
even even when you think about I remember we had
him on the show too, and I think I talked
about this before where they was like, we're the best
group ever because we're not breaking, we never gonna break up,
and then like going their separate ways and then like
to have this kind of cap it all off is
really really tragic. It's unfortunately, it's very sad, and I
(01:21):
don't know, I just wish healing energy to his family.
I send him and really the Quavo because his nephew,
that's his nephew, right like, and him being there and
everything that kind of transpires like fuck. But yeah, I
don't really know. I don't really like the thing about
the thing about stuff like that. It's not it's not
(01:45):
about it's not we just talked to RJ. But it's
not about that. The death is how people die, right,
you know what I'm saying, Like it'd be different if
we like, oh we lost, if we lost nipping a
car crash, we lost and live like in a even
an accident. It's still it's still it's still heartbreaking. But
(02:06):
things situations like this with Violet, it was like it
will it was avoidable. It's always avoidable. But I'm just
saying it just always is it hit different when it's violence. Yeah,
So I go back to I actually saw takeoff in
Quabo that for their album releases. Yeah, album listening session
a couple of weeks, well about a month month ago, month,
(02:27):
a little over a month ago. And one thing, I
just I'm going back looking at it now. I look
at that experience different because we know again from interviewing,
Migo's take off is more of the chill relaxed as
most people see, but that particular day he was so
excited about kind of like not necessarily proving his point,
but he was more social than I've ever seen. So
(02:48):
it's like looking back at that now, it's like damn,
just to look at the potential that's that's gone and
no longer here. It's just, like you said, an unfortunate situation.
You obviously think about the family. You obviously just think
about the whole situation, and just in general, mana, just
how unfortunate it just is. And even going off of
(03:10):
hearing the news because I was up at like two
or three am, Yeah, I know, I didn't get it.
I was I was up and I saw news kind
of on Twitter. You know how Twitter is fast. It's fast.
But it's also like, man, nah, that can't be true.
I just dismissed the first the first hour. I'm just like, nah,
I can't be But fortunately you keep on scroll and
(03:31):
keep on seeing, keep on refreshing, and you know, unfortunately
I saw like a picture and I just at that
point that's when I knew, like, okay, this there might
be some truth to this. And obviously they confirmed the
situation that the news and all that just again just sad. Bro.
You know it's crazy to me about the world we
live in now, is Twitter will confirm your death before
(03:52):
even Harvey Levin. See yeah, Twitter pronounced you dead before
TMZ does. And that's I think the last one. Not
the last one to make it sound like that, but
I think the only one that I remember TMZ breaking
for real is Kobe. I didn't see. I didn't feed
it on nowhere, no outlets. I didn't see that. I
(04:13):
didn't see it on Twitter before I saw TMZ posted.
You know what I mean? Right that the news went up.
I see what you're saying. Yeah, the news went up.
What's funny is that they put it up and took
it down. They took the Kobe down. They couldn't. They
took it down because the family hadn't been notified yet.
Oh shit. So I remember that. I remember that moment
(04:33):
as well, just being when it when it got posted,
it was going along, going around, It's like nah, and
then the links went when ghosts for a while, and
then about thirty minutes later they confirmed it and then went
back up. But I bring that up to say about
this whole seen different think pieces arguments people having something
to say about you know, having footage at that time, right,
(04:59):
because there's footage of the situation's footage of take off
prior to that happening and after the fact, and people
being upset that people are doing that, which is warranted,
Like I don't think that their family should see the
news or hear about the news in that in that instance,
like seeing it online. But we got to understand we
(05:21):
in the we in the time of clout cloud chasing
people where if something goes off, the first thing people
want to do is pull their phone out because they
want to be in the mix. And then obviously people
are checking into it. So then that makes the tmzs
of the world or whoever wants to break the story,
they gonna tap in with the people and verified pay
(05:42):
them off or whatever. So everybody's talking about, oh, I
don't want to do this, but not realizing that the
audience is responsible for that. Yeah, I mean, everybody has
their own their own responsibility in it. I think like
we all, like we all been sitting in the traffic
before because of a car accident. I'm looking at it
that's on the other side, right, and even it's not
(06:03):
even on your side. But it's just everybody want to
see a plane crash, and it's just like until you
see a plane crash, Yeah, everybody want to see a crash.
Until you see the crash then, like everybody was like
even me, I'm guilty of it, like looking at shit
and be like, oh, I shouldn't have looked at that,
you know what I mean. Like, so I think it's
just it's just that's human nature. We've just always we've
been fascinated with death. We're always going to be fascinated
(06:25):
with death. It's always going to be a thing. It's
not going nowhere, no time soon. It's just unfortunate that sometimes,
you know, I think that what happens is you don't
think about the family, right, Like you don't think about that.
It just be like, oh, I'm just reporting the news. Yeah.
But on the flip side, the play Devil's Advocate, right,
(06:46):
I'm sure that that footage, I'm sure that all that
is going to be helpful for the information that they're
gonna use to lead. Oh they already I mean yeah,
they already were. Listen, man, it's a tricky I don't
want to I don't even wanna talk about the shit
I heard if I was going on in Texas and
all that don't the aint none of my business. God
bless everybody involved. What I do want to talk about, though,
(07:08):
is Lebron James paying tribute to take off as he should, right,
but he getting cooked. He's getting cooked online right now
because he paid paid trip, didn't take off in a picture, right,
but in the press conference, was in the picture he
water fit. He wore a hole fit through the tunnel,
right right. And then in the press conference talking about
(07:29):
how he was a fan of the Migos back in
twenty ten when he got drafted or actually aside to
the heat. Now, if you do your googles, you'll see
the migos first project was in twenty eleven. I don't
have a comment on that. I support Lebron James. Hey,
(07:51):
you know what what I support Lebron James. That's crazy.
You know what I'm saying. He getting cooked online if
people ain't supporting them online. Now, let me tell you
this is and it was. I don't I hate to
make light of the situation, but it's certain things that
fifty cent Okay, did you see fifty cent? I did
see as fos went on stage to pay tribute to
(08:13):
take Off and played Bad and Bougie. Right, okay, so
all right, so so you know there's that. I didn't
I didn't know about that, so so you know there's that.
(08:34):
So it's like, hey, bro, you know what I mean? Hey,
get this is how I feel. Okay, everybody should just well.
Take Off said he wasn't left off Bad and Bougie.
He didn't say he wasn't left off. He said, do
it look like I was left off Bad and Booze?
That's what take Off said. Do it look like I
was left off Bad and Bougie. No, it don't appear
that way because you perform the songs. Everybody is, Hey,
(08:56):
it's all good. But I appreciate all the sentiment, and
I believe that everybody should be judged on their intent
and not necessarily their actions. Your intentions were pure. I
fucked with that salute. Yeah, we're just gonna let's say,
if you're not a DJ, let me look at if
you're not a DJ and you're not familiar with the
catalog of the migos, okay, and you want to pay
(09:19):
a tribute to take Off in your sets Bad and Boogie,
probably isn't the first choice. Okay, there's many other choices.
It's a lot of other songs you can it's I mean,
it's hella songs. Hell, he got a whole solo album.
That's one thing that I do appreciate when we talked
to him, you know, we gave him props off that album.
You were talking to him about that and just you
(09:40):
know him him having to get that off his chest, right,
So salute to take Off man, rest in peace. I
mean obviously, like you said, healing energy to all the
parties involved. Just unfortunate situation and that's life. Man. You again,
we kind of made alight of the situation, but it's
you gotta be able to kind of like smile through
the freaking pain man hopefully. Yeah, it's very unfortunate. Take
(10:05):
Off was twenty eight years old, which is wild, bro,
that's so and been in the game ten plus, so
it's like damn, yeah, you know what I mean, Like
you in the game a decade and you twenty eight,
like you're a veteran, you're og at this point, and
you twenty eight years old, and for your life to
coming on abrupt end is very very unfortunate and It's
(10:27):
what makes it even worse for me is just it's avoidable, senseless,
like it isn't like I know somebody, I know people
that's be out here and then you used to used
to be guilty of this too, like people who are
drinking and driving, and I know people have lost their
life doing that, killed other people doing that. Like all
this shit is avoidable, and I think we just as
a community, we need to place more value on life
(10:49):
number one. Number two, we need to place more value
on other people's lives. And number three, if it's not
life threatening, like I'm not preaching. I'm not preaching, you
know what I'm saying. But if it's like something that's
life threatening, like okay, if you get in the car
and drunk and you drive, you know that the risk
is up there for you killing somebody or yourself. Let's
(11:11):
place more value on life. That's true. I say you
tweet something the other day, not to ask you about
this in real time. I'm not pulling up the tweet,
don't want to have it, but I'm just curious about
your thoughts on Elon Musk. You said something and paraphrasing,
tell me, tell me the correct phrase. But you said
(11:34):
you ready to work for him? I said, this is
what I said. Please tell me what you said. And
I've said this before. I said, if Elon Musk were
to call me and offer me a job working for him,
being I would still be me. I'm not I'm not
gonna be go be Aaron Drake. But if I could
be DJ head working for Elon Musk, I would do it.
You would take the job absolutely. Now, I don't want
(11:55):
to go work for Twitter another but if the job
is Twitter, no, I want to work for Elon Musk. Yeah,
but what if he says, look, here's an assignment. I
need your ass Twitter because I just got rid of
half the staff and I need some bodies. All right,
It depends on what he wanted me to do. It
don't matter. You didn't say that in your tweet. I
understand that. But that's a conversation I would have with
Elon when he calls me. What do you want me
(12:16):
to do? My nigga? You just said that I can
say my nigga because he's Africa. Is South South Africa.
Elon mus from Africa, so he can say nigga. I
don't have a comment on that. I said, I want
to tell you can Elon must say the word. That's
(12:39):
a great question, Chuck. I know, p be gonna clip
my nigga. I got a job for you. Listen, what
if what if he has hold on? Let me let
me think, let me stay right here, stay right there.
Can must say nigga like yeah? Would you would you
(13:07):
be offended? I don't know. My biggotry wants me to
be offended.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Oh yo, my ner bigger tree is triggered. You was
saying like, no, wait, just because it's all it's all visual, right,
it's visual, but when in actual tangibles, that's a great
fucking question.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I don't know. I don't say nigga, no, no, Then
how do you say it? Hey put a picture of
himself up, So I put right there. I want you
to put a picture of yourself up. And let's let
the people just can this nigga say nigga? Yes? If
(14:00):
Elon King say nigga, you can't say it. You know
what I'm saying. You your niggas is two hues off,
you know what I'm saying. So that up in the air.
I don't know. I literally that's the that's the greatest conundrum.
That is a great conundrum I'm having. I don't think
I've ever stepped their head on the show ever. I'm
(14:24):
I don't know what the fuck to do. I'm gonna
figure that out though, damn, because I don't because he
said it. Cause no, Look look look if he said
it to me, right, your first reaction was, but that's
my bigotry. You know. What I'm saying, is this nigga
(14:46):
rolling out the spring and what you're rolling? You rolling
out of the ship. I'm here, I'm head on with
the camera. If he said it to me like like
in conversation, I'm tripping. But if he how else would
he say to you, Okay, this I'm being I'm be honest,
(15:07):
I'm go ahead totally please. If he said it like
in a conversation, like he called me my phone right now, Hey,
my nigga, what I'm tripping? Hey, I ain't comfortable, you know,
it made me feel uneasy. Right, But if he would
have texted me yo my in word, but he would
have to say in word, Yes, if he said in word,
(15:28):
I would think I would I would kind of laugh
it off as because he's corny, right, so I would
laugh at off as him being corny, like I you
know that you're not supposed to say from Africa. So
it's like you got me in a gray area right now,
and I can't you I mean, because he would have
that's still him censoring himself. No, I know that, but
like if he said it, if he said that, like, hey,
(15:50):
what's uping my in word? I would have taken it
as him being corny. Okay, but if he texted, but
if he said the whole word, I think I would
I would feel a way got it? You know what
I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying. What's the difference
between the text coming in and saying no, No, I didn't
mean the text. I mean just a conversation. In the
conversation he said, DJ head, what's up my N word?
(16:12):
You'd be like, I'll be like, come on, bro, if
you said it all he said it all the way after,
I'm tripping got it. But that's because my bigotry is trickered.
You know what I'm saying. I get it. I mean
what you do. I'm tripping off top off top. I'm
deal with it later because I didn't know who was
South African. So that's my excuse. You know, I got
(16:35):
to ask other South Africans. That's a great point South Africans.
Chuck Dittele never has great points. I just like that.
He never has a great point. Now he's killing shit
right now, this thing out here, racking ship point after
point after point. But and what's we're specifically talking about?
(16:59):
How would you friend that is? No, because it's not Caucasian, right,
or well, where the fuck is Caucasia? Let's start there,
the Caucasus Mountains, the Caucasus Mountains. I don't know, we'll
find out where the Caucasus Mountains pv them your folks, right, Wow,
where's the where's the Caucasus Mountains? But I guess my
(17:20):
point is fair skin South Africans versus darkest skin South Africans. Right,
this only applies to it, for lack of better words,
white South Africans. See, but okay, here's the problem with
that White black are ethnic groups. That's something that's not real.
(17:45):
Ethnicities aren't real. It's like that there is made up
ship that white people came up with to what that
who the white people? The fake people? That's my point.
See how I'm I'm I'm I'm brainwashed too triggered over. Okay.
Europeans came up with this shit Colonizers there we go, okay,
(18:06):
colonizer home, bring it home. Colonizers came up with this
ship called ethnic groups, and they started placing people in
these bands to segregate people in different beings. Right. So,
in my opinion, just me speaking freely, is I don't
think that ethnicity is actually a real thing. Because your
(18:29):
passport is the same as a white person's passport. Same
if if you're an American, you got a blue passport with
the American shit on it. When you go to Asia,
they don't look at you like, oh, you're black or
you're white or none of that. You're American. When I
when I go, when I go over, I just had
a conversation with something somebody from torontoal They were like, Yo,
they were mind mind blown coming out here. They're like, oh,
(18:49):
I didn't realize that me being black was a thing.
I'm he's from Ghana. He's like, I'm Ghana. And they said,
you guys in here and Erica, you place it on
your the skin, the you know, black, white, the ethnicity.
So yeah, I mean, I but that's something that you
only really realize obviously doing research, but traveling as well.
(19:10):
That's a big traveling traveling. So when you when you're
from if you're from Egypt, you're Egyptian, right, if you're
from South Africa, you're from you're South African. They don't
because I even talked to to uh Emanuela. It's a
girl named Manuela. Met her in a clubhouse. She's she lives,
she's from born and raised in South Africa, and I
have talked to her about this. I've asked her this
(19:31):
shit before. She because she looks she looks like Trevor Noah. Okay,
so she's light skinned, she's fair skinned. But they don't
look at it like that. She's just she's just I'm
South African, like we don't look at it. And then
I talked to people in the UK because I remember
long time, I told her this girl this story when
I went on the train trip with my mom, so
she don't fly. Were on the train and I've seen
(19:52):
a black lady, but she sounded like James Bond, right,
and I'm in I'm in like sixth grade, so I
didn't I didn't know. I had never been nowhere. So
I walk up to her and I said, and I
excuse me, what are you? Oh wow, because you know kids,
they don't have no filter of no filter. And I
was way worse back then. I'm like, what are she saying?
She looked at me, said what do you mean? I said, like,
(20:15):
cause you look like me, but but you don't sound
you don't sound like me. She's like, I'm British and
I'm like, yeah, but like what are you? Like are you?
I didn't. I didn't understand what the fuck was going
on right. My brain couldn't couldn't compute what was going on.
And later on in life I started to understand, like, oh,
she over there in the UK, they don't look at
you like you're black or this. If anything, they look
(20:37):
at you like you're African Jamaican stuff like that. They
don't look at you like you're black or white. It's like,
I'm British. They still I mean, I think it's still
still issues and still things rooted around your skin tone.
But that they got that from the colonize right right.
That ain't something that's embreded in them like it is us.
(20:59):
They got that from learning the ways of the world,
from slavery and all this other kind of shit. They
didn't learn that if you're if you're from if you're
black and from the UK, they identify as British or
Brits or whatever. They don't look at it like I'm
black or white or nothing like that. They definitely know
that they are, but that's some learned thing. That's not
the first thing that comes to their mind. It's like
I'm black British. Jeez. Interesting. Interesting. I would love to
(21:22):
hear from South Africans on this me too. I want
to talk to Trevor Noah. What I'm just thinking. I
want to talk to a white South African Elon Musk.
I mean, well, he's clearly gonna reach out to you
for a jay. So if Elon Musk, okay, let me
(21:44):
ask you this, then we move past it. Elon Musk
got some money for you, but he wants to say
the N word to you, Like what's up my in
word to me? Yeah, he want to say what's up
my nigga to you? People do it for free, okay,
but but for you not to feel a way about it.
What I'm gonnaeel a way about it? Anyway? What's the
dollar amount for you not to feel away? They ain't
(22:07):
no dollar amount. I'm gonna fil away either way, because
just how he looks, I'm gonna feel away. I still
take your money, but I'm just based on how he looks.
I think it's the context of how he says it, too,
because I feel I feel that way even when black
people say it. Sometimes there's certain times where I'm just like,
oh yeah in passing that. Other times like this just
(22:29):
don't sit right. So Wayne Brady says, what something my
negga to you? You feel the same way. It depends
on the context, gotcha. Depends on the context and sometimes
even the amount of times, Like even sometimes we use
it on the podcast as we hit like ten, I'm like, ooh,
this don't feel right. Yeah, I agree. Are you doing
a little too much right now? I agree? Sometimes I
get the text and the calls too, like hey man, yeah,
(22:51):
me too. You want seventy five in words on this one,
So we probably had forty five just to let you know,
but in the context of the conversation to c B, yeah,
shout the c B. Moving forward, Drake twenty one Savage
dropped the new album I haven't heard it. I'm not
gonna lie. I haven't listened to her Lost out right now.
But hearing a lot of great, good and bad things
about a great response. But obviously one thing, the fake rollout,
(23:13):
the fake rollout, the fake rollout was I really thought
he was on the Howard Stern Show. I really thought
the niggas was sml I. After the after the Howard
Stern Show, I realized that that was fake. Everything else
was like, okay, this is They wasn't really on Howard Stern. No,
they weren't, no nothing. So that that was the first,
(23:34):
the first thing that I saw that wasn't real. They
they chopped it up somehow. It was amazing. But everything
after that, that's when I realized, oh, all this shit
is fake. But I mean pulling that off. They wasn't
really on Howard Stern. Hey, they were not really on
Howard Stern. That's wow. This whole time like okay, all
(23:55):
right they went on. I don't think they were on
tiny desks. I think they created that. And you got
that was good. You got after the after the Howard
Stern went I realized, oh, this is all trickery, which
is dope. I mean, it got me. They created the
aesthetic for it. Amazing that the one. Yeah, but they
(24:15):
that's wild. I thought this whole time they did Howard Stern.
I'm like, oh, they're doing fake rollout, so they're gonna
go do ship they wouldn't normally do, so they went
to Howard Stern. That's what I'm thinking, Like, I'm overthinking
the thought. I'm overthinking the play. Got you, they got it?
Got you. Can Drake say nigga? I mean he does, can't.
But do you feel away? No, you don't feel it
(24:40):
because he's black. He's half black? Oh damn mind fuck, No,
I ain't saying that. Yeah, yeah, Chuck, Drake is half black,
and what man, that's I don't even know. I don't
(25:01):
even know if they exactly it's crazy. You don't. You
ain't gonna Cayrie me. You don't know. You don't know
what he is. I don't know, man, damn me. He's
light skinned. So I'm tripping a dn say, Drake, you
can say whatever the you want to say. So Drake
can't say nigga without you get so you feel a
way about Drake saying that, I'm trying to reset. No,
(25:24):
I'm just asked her to reset that. No, should have
reset for the clip. No, I ain't gonna give me iteah, yeah,
the other on the other one riding the tissue. Okay,
that's what you want to do. No, that ain't the
five Factory studios and toss some waters over the big
(25:47):
ass million dollar boards. Uh moving forward. Uh. One of
the lines that he said on the album, you didn't
want to even talk about this, one of the lines
that people are talking about it. It's gonna be all
by the time people see this, right is it refers
to shots and lying, but she's still a stallion. People
(26:13):
initially thought that it was at magde Stallion. Little Yachtie
jumps into the conversation says, no, that's not the case.
He's literally just talking about girls getting butt shots, lying
about it. How it's a joke on play on words, Drake.
Nobody's doing though, And I mean to be honest, that's
just what it is. It's a play on words, and
(26:37):
it's one of those tricky situations because it's like in
hip hop, we like this competitiveness, we like people talking
is and what I think I'm gonna be honest, I
think nobody responded on Certified lover Boy. As far as
the album coming out, nobody really talked about it like
it was literally one day was people talked about the album,
Nobody really talked about it after that. Right this one,
(26:58):
people are kind of like kicking up us, keeping the conversation.
And I think he knows if he talks spicy on this,
it's gonna create the conversation more if people want it
into the album, of course. But Drake know what he's doing.
He's too, he's he's elite at this shit. He knew
its gonna cause controversy. He knew it was gonna be
(27:19):
he knew, he knew they know everything. Do you think
he told y'all need to speak out. No, Drake don't
have to tell nobody to do nothing. And this is
something that I really appreciate about about Drake. Okay, Drake
will articulate everything. It's just that he doesn't do interviews
like that. True. So if he does another sit down
(27:42):
and beat out an Elliott or chuck this on DJ head,
whatever he does, he's already doing with Elliott. No, he's
not unless that's part of the fake rollout too. But
Elliott talked about it. He said he's got one in Toronto.
I think it might know that was old That was
from last time, Nah, I think, well, we'll see that
was from last time. Sure, yes, sure, yes, well Elliott
(28:05):
posted like yeah with the tower behind him that from
that was from the previous Drake interview. Anyway, wherever he
does his conversation piece, he has no problem articulating. I
mean he has a player on words. It's hip hop.
Or he'll say or like I don't have no no
malice towards her or any whatever the case may be.
(28:27):
And I like that he always is clear in his
in his in his thoughts, but he knows what he's doing.
It's obviously wordplay. I don't necessarily think it was necessary,
but also it's hip hop like it sometimes it gets
uncomfortable and sometimes, like when it comes to her specifically, No,
I don't think that you should make light of somebody's
(28:48):
Trump question. Yeah, but nigga, if you think about what
hip hop is, it's documenting our trauma, all of it.
No different than talking about so and so getting murdered
or so and so getting shot or so. I think
it's just people pick and choose when they want to
be activists. Not not her or her family situation, right,
but Twitter and all that shit. The think pieces that
(29:08):
come think pieces, the YouTube breakdowns and ship them people well,
to be fair, she responded, and she took she felt
a way about it, and so now she's speaking out
about that. And I think that's the only difference. That
that's the only difference in this situation. You're right, when
you have the outside talking about it doesn't make sense.
(29:29):
It doesn't make sense. But y'all can keep chattering. But
when you got the person that has been a victim
speaking on that. But here play Devil's advocate, though, does
she say anything if if it never became a thing?
Said again, does she does she respond if it never
blew up and became a thing, if that bar just
went under the radar like all the rest of the bars,
does she still speak out? Meaning that if nobody else
(29:52):
brought it up, and nobody else know, it didn't become
a Twitter thread, it never became a trending topic. It
doesn't be it's not in a share room, it never
became a topic of discussion. I think she would I'm
gonna tell you why, because somebody else would have probably
sent it to her. Hey man, you know you hurt,
Hey you heard this, and she would have probably said
something maybe, But then that would have that would have
blewed the situation up bigger than it had to be
as well. Yeah, I don't know, man. I And the
(30:14):
thing is, I don't I'm not sitting here trying to
police lyrics as well. But at the same time, you know,
you gotta pick and choose when you want to kind
of have that that battle. And I and here's the thing,
I don't really see him a lot of people. I
mean no, I guess he is kind of coming under fire,
but it's not a boycott Drake. You don't see people
(30:36):
holding up the picket signs in that sense. You hear
the conversations, but it's not to the point of let's
take the lyric out, let's change the album, you know
what I mean, nothing like that. Cancel just cancel. Shit
is stupid and it's never gonna stick. It's not a thing. Like.
All it takes is want is somebody to do something
(30:59):
that you've that benefits you or fuck with you in
order for you to well, you know, this wasn't that
bad or blah blah blah. Like it's just we in
a hyper sensitive time. So I don't I don't see
people canceling Drake. Why not why not? Why not? Why
not cancel Drake? Because I mean because they almost canceled Lizzo.
(31:20):
I don't think they. I don't think people look at
Drake like that, like like say, for instance, if damn
if let's say, uh, who's a bad guy and hip hop? Yeah?
Right like right now the baby? If the baby did it?
(31:41):
Oh yeah, I mean they was on his ass when
he made a song with Tory Lanez. That's my point.
Drake is not a bad guy. When you when you
when you position yourself in that way as a villain
than people villain, at what point do you become a
cross over and become the bad guy? You don't become
an TI hero. You gotta break it down from because
(32:03):
I'm not into a comics. A villain, a villain is
somebody like the like the Joker, where they thrive on
chaos and turmoil and carnage. Right then you have the
hero who is against all that crime fighter. Right then
you have the anti hero Thanos. Thanos he gonna do
(32:29):
some fucked up ship but the cause he feels like
it's justified. So you're saying Drake is an anti No,
he's not. No, how not? How that's that's the part
I'm kind of having. No, he's he that would be
an anti hero. So he's he's he's a hero. He's
a hero, and people don't view him as a villain.
(32:50):
But in real life he's an anti hero because he'll
talk crazy shit, say all kind of shit, fuck your girls,
take your mama out to eat. He's an anti hero.
But to the public, to the public, he's not that.
He's not a villain. But the baby Tory Lanes who
else are looked at it. They're looked at this villain.
(33:11):
Fifty fifty is an anti hero, But at what point
he wasn't a hero to begin with? Though, yeah he's
fifty when he came out with that, that's a villain. Fifth, No,
fifty has been an anti hero his whole career. But
as far as the public's view, oh, the public, yeah, villain.
(33:33):
So I'm saying, like, who picks and chooses who that is?
Actually don't know the difference. I'm just going on speculatively,
like comic book references, But people don't know the difference.
What would it take for somebody for the world public
to view Drake as an anti hero? He would have
to go all the way left like Tory did and
lean all the way into the bullshit for instance. But
(33:53):
Drake is really not that, That's what I'm saying. You
can still portray that image though, Yeah, but he's really
But I'm about the like I know people who's I
know of him. I know people that know Drake personally
right and have had personal relationships with Drake. He really
is a good guy. Yeah, yeah, like a really good guy,
you know what I'm saying, as far as like he
look out for people he really want to like talk
(34:14):
and have opinions and shit like that. He looked out
for people financially just randomly, like hey man, you know,
I know he's hard right now COVID seeing the guy's
playing video. So yeah, but not even but I'm saying,
I know these real people who he's helped where it's
not on the mainstream and nobody knows about us, and
so it's like he's a genuinely good guy. I don't
think genuinely good people are genuinely good guys like that
(34:37):
can be villainized in the same way. That makes sense.
If you see Drake taking off on people, people look
at like what do you do? What the other person do? Yes,
got it right. It's like when when I saw twenty
one Savage speak on Takeoff. Twenty one Savage was on
the same thing. Yeah, he said, if I take off
arguing with somebody, I know the other person wrong right,
(34:58):
Glasses told me the same thing about He's like if
I received Yeah, he was like, if somebody ever do
something in regards to you or y'all, see y'all you
you ad it with somebody, I know that they did
something because you're not the person that's gonna start some ship.
So are you the anti hero? I'm an anti hero?
But the public view, so I think it depends on
who you're talking to. Some people look at you as
(35:19):
the villain. Correct. Interesting, interesting and interesting. Yeah, I'm just
I'm curious to see how this plays out because again
this is within the first week, but this album dropping,
so me the conversations up there, who knows, uh, you know,
if he'll articulate himself and and like you said, break down. Yes,
(35:41):
that was double unton truth. It's a play on words.
No harm, no, no, no, no malice towards Meg. But
I know people feel away, they ship, people feel away
because people, you know, cut down trees and make toilet
paper and then they still wipe their ass. That's crazy, right,
some folks got the days and they still wiping their
ass or something. Shout out to the baby. Well and
(36:06):
we can get out of here, but shout out to
the baby. I really love. I like now when people
become a villain. I like that. You become the whole thing.
Just cross all the way, just be the whole villain, Okay.
And that's that's the laying. The baby is in right now,
and I like it. I fuck with it. So he's
the villain. And because he took heat because his tickets
(36:26):
was on sale by one and get one free. Yeah,
and I got I got in some ship because I
defind I didn't defend him, but I said on Twitter
that the people are talking about the baby the bay
won't get one free or the same people who will
be complaining about ticket prices. You got to pick a struggle,
bro right, pick a struggle, like do you want? What
do you want? Because here's the thing. If Cadillac, no,
(36:47):
I do you want better? If they start offering by
one get one free gallons of gas? Are you jumping
on it? Nobody's like man Chevrard fell off. You in line.
You know what I'm saying, Niggas picking shoes when they
want a villain, when they want to pile on and
and pack a nigga out. I'm not with that. Well,
I mean to be fair, Like we talked about in
(37:08):
the beginning, people love seeing a train record car crash.
People love seeing the demise, whether it's I'm not gonna
say that, people don't love to see that, but they
they they they're inclined to watch it go down. So
what you're seeing with the baby right now, based off
the last year, right, people will look at that trajectory
and be like, oh, yeah, he's getting what he deserves.
(37:30):
They're just sitting there watching it. I understand that. But
you also see him building it up. If he's doing shows,
he's on the road, he's working whatever, Like that's cool.
Like BA won't get one free that's a that's not
like a great deal to me. You're not complaining about that.
If they doing that with Jordan's ball, get one free
pair of Jordan, nobody man, Mike fell Off. Ain't nobody
(37:52):
thinking that you on the website clicking your ass off
trying to get that by trying to get one of
them to get the other you know, So it's like, bro,
pick and shoes, like y'all pick and choose when y'all
want to like do that. And I'm not I'm just
not with the mob mentality. I don't like the Lynch
mob shit. I just like, what if? What if the
buy one, get one free was because there are low
(38:13):
ticket sales and that's because of people not necessarily wanting
to support him. That's fine, you don't gotta go, but
to be like, but to but to pile on to like,
oh you fell off, and it's like, well, did he
fall off? Or is that market just somewhere where people
decide not to go to the show, which is a
fair assessment. It's not that it's not that they could
(38:35):
be that or that situation. It's not that crazy. And
I see people in my mentions like you caping for
the baby And this is a direct result of what
he deserves for his for his outlandish behavior. I'm like
and and and ticket sales are a direct reflection of
where you are, of the climbate of your the the
temperament of your career. Well, when when did you become
stub hub? Bro? When did you become a ticket a
(38:56):
ticket connoisseur or a fucking box office. You know what
I'm saying, Like, you don't even know what what are
you talking about? You know? So anyway, I just I
don't know. I can't, I can't do it well. I mean,
to be fair, I'm gonna throw this last quart out.
I think people are also attaching that to low low
album sales as well, so they're looking at these things
(39:17):
that's happened post his situations, right, you know the Rolling
Loud performance now, the whole meg Stallion situation, like you know,
all of that leading into album D. But to your point,
the album wasn't even marketed properly anyway, I do you
want better whose albums are killing? Well? I mean, what
(39:39):
if you go off from what his last album did first?
Is this one? That's what the comparison is going from.
The comparison is whose whose albums are killing? Right now?
I mean, can'trick Little Baby. I can't think off top.
It's probably there's you know you're talking about the ead Bunny. Yeah,
(40:01):
bad Bunny did the Sofi stated it was the eighty
thousand fuck you, Like, I don't know, it's just it's
just stupid to me, Like it's really dumb. The albums
album sales have been declining. It's there if you look
at it. I don't even gotta pu up the numbers.
But if you look at the album sales, I guarantee
you they're declining year after year of the year across
(40:22):
the board. Yeah. So it's like, bro, like give me like,
I don't know, I just want. I just want. I
don't like mob lynch mob mentality too. I think that
people just start grabbing ship and and and throwing it
all in the pot. And Bro, that's not how you
make this food taste good. Gotcha, it ain't all it
don't go all go together like that. All right, Well,
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M m m m m hmm.
I got added Home Gone Radio, Chuck Dizzle headl from
five Factory Studios, and on we gotta start off the
show man, I said, rest in peace. Take off, Man
and peace take off, and we go. Very unfortunate situation,
definitely avoidable. Obviously. I feel bad for Takeoff because you know,
he was like he always seemed to be the most
(00:34):
low key one, super chill, super chill, always just chilling, right,
But then you gotta feel bad for everybody else involved.
It's just I never thought that the Migo story within
like this, right, and not even well technically this ended,
but because of because it's not Migos with all three, right,
But I never see I never saw this coming, Like
(00:57):
I never saw no. I'm just saying I never or
even even when you think about I remember we had
him on the show too, and I think I talked
about this before where they was like, we're the best
group ever because we're not breaking, we never gonna break up,
and then like going their separate ways and then like
to have this kind of cap it all off is
really really tragic. It's unfortunately, it's very sad, and I
(01:21):
don't know, I just wish healing energy to his family.
I send him and really the Quavo because his nephew,
that's his nephew, right like, and him being there and
everything that kind of transpires like fuck. But yeah, I
don't really know. I don't really like the thing about
the thing about stuff like that. It's not it's not
(01:45):
about it's not we just talked to RJ. But it's
not about that. The death is how people die, right,
you know what I'm saying, Like it'd be different if
we like, oh we lost, if we lost nipping a
car crash, we lost and live like in a even
an accident. It's still it's still it's still heartbreaking. But
(02:06):
things situations like this with Violet, it was like it
will it was avoidable. It's always avoidable. But I'm just
saying it just always is it hit different when it's violence. Yeah,
So I go back to I actually saw takeoff in
Quabo that for their album releases. Yeah, album listening session
a couple of weeks, well about a month month ago, month,
(02:27):
a little over a month ago. And one thing, I
just I'm going back looking at it now. I look
at that experience different because we know again from interviewing,
Migo's take off is more of the chill relaxed as
most people see, but that particular day he was so
excited about kind of like not necessarily proving his point,
but he was more social than I've ever seen. So
(02:48):
it's like looking back at that now, it's like damn,
just to look at the potential that's that's gone and
no longer here. It's just, like you said, an unfortunate situation.
You obviously think about the family. You obviously just think
about the whole situation, and just in general, mana, just
how unfortunate it just is. And even going off of
(03:10):
hearing the news because I was up at like two
or three am, Yeah, I know, I didn't get it.
I was I was up and I saw news kind
of on Twitter. You know how Twitter is fast. It's fast.
But it's also like, man, nah, that can't be true.
I just dismissed the first the first hour. I'm just like, nah,
I can't be But fortunately you keep on scroll and
(03:31):
keep on seeing, keep on refreshing, and you know, unfortunately
I saw like a picture and I just at that
point that's when I knew, like, okay, this there might
be some truth to this. And obviously they confirmed the
situation that the news and all that just again just sad. Bro.
You know it's crazy to me about the world we
live in now, is Twitter will confirm your death before
(03:52):
even Harvey Levin. See yeah, Twitter pronounced you dead before
TMZ does. And that's I think the last one. Not
the last one to make it sound like that, but
I think the only one that I remember TMZ breaking
for real is Kobe. I didn't see. I didn't feed
it on nowhere, no outlets. I didn't see that. I
(04:13):
didn't see it on Twitter before I saw TMZ posted.
You know what I mean? Right that the news went up.
I see what you're saying. Yeah, the news went up.
What's funny is that they put it up and took
it down. They took the Kobe down. They couldn't. They
took it down because the family hadn't been notified yet.
Oh shit. So I remember that. I remember that moment
(04:33):
as well, just being when it when it got posted,
it was going along, going around, It's like nah, and
then the links went when ghosts for a while, and
then about thirty minutes later they confirmed it and then went
back up. But I bring that up to say about
this whole seen different think pieces arguments people having something
to say about you know, having footage at that time, right,
(04:59):
because there's footage of the situation's footage of take off
prior to that happening and after the fact, and people
being upset that people are doing that, which is warranted,
Like I don't think that their family should see the
news or hear about the news in that in that instance,
like seeing it online. But we got to understand we
(05:21):
in the we in the time of clout cloud chasing
people where if something goes off, the first thing people
want to do is pull their phone out because they
want to be in the mix. And then obviously people
are checking into it. So then that makes the tmzs
of the world or whoever wants to break the story,
they gonna tap in with the people and verified pay
(05:42):
them off or whatever. So everybody's talking about, oh, I
don't want to do this, but not realizing that the
audience is responsible for that. Yeah, I mean, everybody has
their own their own responsibility in it. I think like
we all, like we all been sitting in the traffic
before because of a car accident. I'm looking at it
that's on the other side, right, and even it's not
(06:03):
even on your side. But it's just everybody want to
see a plane crash, and it's just like until you
see a plane crash, Yeah, everybody want to see a crash.
Until you see the crash then, like everybody was like
even me, I'm guilty of it, like looking at shit
and be like, oh, I shouldn't have looked at that,
you know what I mean. Like, so I think it's
just it's just that's human nature. We've just always we've
been fascinated with death. We're always going to be fascinated
(06:25):
with death. It's always going to be a thing. It's
not going nowhere, no time soon. It's just unfortunate that sometimes,
you know, I think that what happens is you don't
think about the family, right, Like you don't think about that.
It just be like, oh, I'm just reporting the news. Yeah.
But on the flip side, the play Devil's Advocate, right,
(06:46):
I'm sure that that footage, I'm sure that all that
is going to be helpful for the information that they're
gonna use to lead. Oh they already I mean yeah,
they already were. Listen, man, it's a tricky I don't
want to I don't even wanna talk about the shit
I heard if I was going on in Texas and
all that don't the aint none of my business. God
bless everybody involved. What I do want to talk about, though,
(07:08):
is Lebron James paying tribute to take off as he should, right,
but he getting cooked. He's getting cooked online right now
because he paid paid trip, didn't take off in a picture, right,
but in the press conference, was in the picture he
water fit. He wore a hole fit through the tunnel,
right right. And then in the press conference talking about
(07:29):
how he was a fan of the Migos back in
twenty ten when he got drafted or actually aside to
the heat. Now, if you do your googles, you'll see
the migos first project was in twenty eleven. I don't
have a comment on that. I support Lebron James. Hey,
(07:51):
you know what what I support Lebron James. That's crazy.
You know what I'm saying. He getting cooked online if
people ain't supporting them online. Now, let me tell you
this is and it was. I don't I hate to
make light of the situation, but it's certain things that
fifty cent Okay, did you see fifty cent? I did
see as fos went on stage to pay tribute to
(08:13):
take Off and played Bad and Bougie. Right, okay, so
all right, so so you know there's that. I didn't
I didn't know about that, so so you know there's that.
(08:34):
So it's like, hey, bro, you know what I mean? Hey,
get this is how I feel. Okay, everybody should just well.
Take Off said he wasn't left off Bad and Bougie.
He didn't say he wasn't left off. He said, do
it look like I was left off Bad and Booze?
That's what take Off said. Do it look like I
was left off Bad and Bougie. No, it don't appear
that way because you perform the songs. Everybody is, Hey,
(08:56):
it's all good. But I appreciate all the sentiment, and
I believe that everybody should be judged on their intent
and not necessarily their actions. Your intentions were pure. I
fucked with that salute. Yeah, we're just gonna let's say,
if you're not a DJ, let me look at if
you're not a DJ and you're not familiar with the
catalog of the migos, okay, and you want to pay
(09:19):
a tribute to take Off in your sets Bad and Boogie,
probably isn't the first choice. Okay, there's many other choices.
It's a lot of other songs you can it's I mean,
it's hella songs. Hell, he got a whole solo album.
That's one thing that I do appreciate when we talked
to him, you know, we gave him props off that album.
You were talking to him about that and just you
(09:40):
know him him having to get that off his chest, right,
So salute to take Off man, rest in peace. I
mean obviously, like you said, healing energy to all the
parties involved. Just unfortunate situation and that's life. Man. You again,
we kind of made alight of the situation, but it's
you gotta be able to kind of like smile through
the freaking pain man hopefully. Yeah, it's very unfortunate. Take
(10:05):
Off was twenty eight years old, which is wild, bro,
that's so and been in the game ten plus, so
it's like damn, yeah, you know what I mean, Like
you in the game a decade and you twenty eight,
like you're a veteran, you're og at this point, and
you twenty eight years old, and for your life to
coming on abrupt end is very very unfortunate and It's
(10:27):
what makes it even worse for me is just it's avoidable, senseless,
like it isn't like I know somebody, I know people
that's be out here and then you used to used
to be guilty of this too, like people who are
drinking and driving, and I know people have lost their
life doing that, killed other people doing that. Like all
this shit is avoidable, and I think we just as
a community, we need to place more value on life
(10:49):
number one. Number two, we need to place more value
on other people's lives. And number three, if it's not
life threatening, like I'm not preaching. I'm not preaching, you
know what I'm saying. But if it's like something that's
life threatening, like okay, if you get in the car
and drunk and you drive, you know that the risk
is up there for you killing somebody or yourself. Let's
(11:11):
place more value on life. That's true. I say you
tweet something the other day, not to ask you about
this in real time. I'm not pulling up the tweet,
don't want to have it, but I'm just curious about
your thoughts on Elon Musk. You said something and paraphrasing,
tell me, tell me the correct phrase. But you said
(11:34):
you ready to work for him? I said, this is
what I said. Please tell me what you said. And
I've said this before. I said, if Elon Musk were
to call me and offer me a job working for him,
being I would still be me. I'm not I'm not
gonna be go be Aaron Drake. But if I could
be DJ head working for Elon Musk, I would do it.
You would take the job absolutely. Now, I don't want
(11:55):
to go work for Twitter another but if the job
is Twitter, no, I want to work for Elon Musk. Yeah,
but what if he says, look, here's an assignment. I
need your ass Twitter because I just got rid of
half the staff and I need some bodies. All right,
It depends on what he wanted me to do. It
don't matter. You didn't say that in your tweet. I
understand that. But that's a conversation I would have with
Elon when he calls me. What do you want me
(12:16):
to do? My nigga? You just said that I can
say my nigga because he's Africa. Is South South Africa.
Elon mus from Africa, so he can say nigga. I
don't have a comment on that. I said, I want
to tell you can Elon must say the word. That's
(12:39):
a great question, Chuck. I know, p be gonna clip
my nigga. I got a job for you. Listen, what
if what if he has hold on? Let me let
me think, let me stay right here, stay right there.
Can must say nigga like yeah? Would you would you
(13:07):
be offended? I don't know. My biggotry wants me to
be offended.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Oh yo, my ner bigger tree is triggered. You was
saying like, no, wait, just because it's all it's all visual, right,
it's visual, but when in actual tangibles, that's a great
fucking question.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I don't know. I don't say nigga, no, no, Then
how do you say it? Hey put a picture of
himself up, So I put right there. I want you
to put a picture of yourself up. And let's let
the people just can this nigga say nigga? Yes? If
(14:00):
Elon King say nigga, you can't say it. You know
what I'm saying. You your niggas is two hues off,
you know what I'm saying. So that up in the air.
I don't know. I literally that's the that's the greatest conundrum.
That is a great conundrum I'm having. I don't think
I've ever stepped their head on the show ever. I'm
(14:24):
I don't know what the fuck to do. I'm gonna
figure that out though, damn, because I don't because he
said it. Cause no, Look look look if he said
it to me, right, your first reaction was, but that's
my bigotry. You know. What I'm saying, is this nigga
(14:46):
rolling out the spring and what you're rolling? You rolling
out of the ship. I'm here, I'm head on with
the camera. If he said it to me like like
in conversation, I'm tripping. But if he how else would
he say to you, Okay, this I'm being I'm be honest,
(15:07):
I'm go ahead totally please. If he said it like
in a conversation, like he called me my phone right now, Hey,
my nigga, what I'm tripping? Hey, I ain't comfortable, you know,
it made me feel uneasy. Right, But if he would
have texted me yo my in word, but he would
have to say in word, Yes, if he said in word,
(15:28):
I would think I would I would kind of laugh
it off as because he's corny, right, so I would
laugh at off as him being corny, like I you
know that you're not supposed to say from Africa. So
it's like you got me in a gray area right now,
and I can't you I mean, because he would have
that's still him censoring himself. No, I know that, but
like if he said it, if he said that, like, hey,
(15:50):
what's uping my in word? I would have taken it
as him being corny. Okay, but if he texted, but
if he said the whole word, I think I would
I would feel a way got it? You know what
I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying. What's the difference
between the text coming in and saying no, No, I didn't
mean the text. I mean just a conversation. In the
conversation he said, DJ head, what's up my N word?
(16:12):
You'd be like, I'll be like, come on, bro, if
you said it all he said it all the way after,
I'm tripping got it. But that's because my bigotry is trickered.
You know what I'm saying. I get it. I mean
what you do. I'm tripping off top off top. I'm
deal with it later because I didn't know who was
South African. So that's my excuse. You know, I got
(16:35):
to ask other South Africans. That's a great point South Africans.
Chuck Dittele never has great points. I just like that.
He never has a great point. Now he's killing shit
right now, this thing out here, racking ship point after
point after point. But and what's we're specifically talking about?
(16:59):
How would you friend that is? No, because it's not Caucasian, right,
or well, where the fuck is Caucasia? Let's start there,
the Caucasus Mountains, the Caucasus Mountains. I don't know, we'll
find out where the Caucasus Mountains pv them your folks, right, Wow,
where's the where's the Caucasus Mountains? But I guess my
(17:20):
point is fair skin South Africans versus darkest skin South Africans. Right,
this only applies to it, for lack of better words,
white South Africans. See, but okay, here's the problem with
that White black are ethnic groups. That's something that's not real.
(17:45):
Ethnicities aren't real. It's like that there is made up
ship that white people came up with to what that
who the white people? The fake people? That's my point.
See how I'm I'm I'm I'm brainwashed too triggered over. Okay.
Europeans came up with this shit Colonizers there we go, okay,
(18:06):
colonizer home, bring it home. Colonizers came up with this
ship called ethnic groups, and they started placing people in
these bands to segregate people in different beings. Right. So,
in my opinion, just me speaking freely, is I don't
think that ethnicity is actually a real thing. Because your
(18:29):
passport is the same as a white person's passport. Same
if if you're an American, you got a blue passport with
the American shit on it. When you go to Asia,
they don't look at you like, oh, you're black or
you're white or none of that. You're American. When I
when I go, when I go over, I just had
a conversation with something somebody from torontoal They were like, Yo,
they were mind mind blown coming out here. They're like, oh,
(18:49):
I didn't realize that me being black was a thing.
I'm he's from Ghana. He's like, I'm Ghana. And they said,
you guys in here and Erica, you place it on
your the skin, the you know, black, white, the ethnicity.
So yeah, I mean, I but that's something that you
only really realize obviously doing research, but traveling as well.
(19:10):
That's a big traveling traveling. So when you when you're
from if you're from Egypt, you're Egyptian, right, if you're
from South Africa, you're from you're South African. They don't
because I even talked to to uh Emanuela. It's a
girl named Manuela. Met her in a clubhouse. She's she lives,
she's from born and raised in South Africa, and I
have talked to her about this. I've asked her this
(19:31):
shit before. She because she looks she looks like Trevor Noah. Okay,
so she's light skinned, she's fair skinned. But they don't
look at it like that. She's just she's just I'm
South African, like we don't look at it. And then
I talked to people in the UK because I remember
long time, I told her this girl this story when
I went on the train trip with my mom, so
she don't fly. Were on the train and I've seen
(19:52):
a black lady, but she sounded like James Bond, right,
and I'm in I'm in like sixth grade, so I
didn't I didn't know. I had never been nowhere. So
I walk up to her and I said, and I
excuse me, what are you? Oh wow, because you know kids,
they don't have no filter of no filter. And I
was way worse back then. I'm like, what are she saying?
She looked at me, said what do you mean? I said, like,
(20:15):
cause you look like me, but but you don't sound
you don't sound like me. She's like, I'm British and
I'm like, yeah, but like what are you? Like are you?
I didn't. I didn't understand what the fuck was going
on right. My brain couldn't couldn't compute what was going on.
And later on in life I started to understand, like, oh,
she over there in the UK, they don't look at
you like you're black or this. If anything, they look
(20:37):
at you like you're African Jamaican stuff like that. They
don't look at you like you're black or white. It's like,
I'm British. They still I mean, I think it's still
still issues and still things rooted around your skin tone.
But that they got that from the colonize right right.
That ain't something that's embreded in them like it is us.
(20:59):
They got that from learning the ways of the world,
from slavery and all this other kind of shit. They
didn't learn that if you're if you're from if you're
black and from the UK, they identify as British or
Brits or whatever. They don't look at it like I'm
black or white or nothing like that. They definitely know
that they are, but that's some learned thing. That's not
the first thing that comes to their mind. It's like
I'm black British. Jeez. Interesting. Interesting. I would love to
(21:22):
hear from South Africans on this me too. I want
to talk to Trevor Noah. What I'm just thinking. I
want to talk to a white South African Elon Musk.
I mean, well, he's clearly gonna reach out to you
for a jay. So if Elon Musk, okay, let me
(21:44):
ask you this, then we move past it. Elon Musk
got some money for you, but he wants to say
the N word to you, Like what's up my in
word to me? Yeah, he want to say what's up
my nigga to you? People do it for free, okay,
but but for you not to feel a way about it.
What I'm gonnaeel a way about it? Anyway? What's the
dollar amount for you not to feel away? They ain't
(22:07):
no dollar amount. I'm gonna fil away either way, because
just how he looks, I'm gonna feel away. I still
take your money, but I'm just based on how he looks.
I think it's the context of how he says it, too,
because I feel I feel that way even when black
people say it. Sometimes there's certain times where I'm just like,
oh yeah in passing that. Other times like this just
(22:29):
don't sit right. So Wayne Brady says, what something my
negga to you? You feel the same way. It depends
on the context, gotcha. Depends on the context and sometimes
even the amount of times, Like even sometimes we use
it on the podcast as we hit like ten, I'm like, ooh,
this don't feel right. Yeah, I agree. Are you doing
a little too much right now? I agree? Sometimes I
get the text and the calls too, like hey man, yeah,
(22:51):
me too. You want seventy five in words on this one,
So we probably had forty five just to let you know,
but in the context of the conversation to c B, yeah,
shout the c B. Moving forward, Drake twenty one Savage
dropped the new album I haven't heard it. I'm not
gonna lie. I haven't listened to her Lost out right now.
But hearing a lot of great, good and bad things
about a great response. But obviously one thing, the fake rollout,
(23:13):
the fake rollout, the fake rollout was I really thought
he was on the Howard Stern Show. I really thought
the niggas was sml I. After the after the Howard
Stern Show, I realized that that was fake. Everything else
was like, okay, this is They wasn't really on Howard Stern. No,
they weren't, no nothing. So that that was the first,
(23:34):
the first thing that I saw that wasn't real. They
they chopped it up somehow. It was amazing. But everything
after that, that's when I realized, oh, all this shit
is fake. But I mean pulling that off. They wasn't
really on Howard Stern. Hey, they were not really on
Howard Stern. That's wow. This whole time like okay, all
(23:55):
right they went on. I don't think they were on
tiny desks. I think they created that. And you got
that was good. You got after the after the Howard
Stern went I realized, oh, this is all trickery, which
is dope. I mean, it got me. They created the
aesthetic for it. Amazing that the one. Yeah, but they
(24:15):
that's wild. I thought this whole time they did Howard Stern.
I'm like, oh, they're doing fake rollout, so they're gonna
go do ship they wouldn't normally do, so they went
to Howard Stern. That's what I'm thinking, Like, I'm overthinking
the thought. I'm overthinking the play. Got you, they got it?
Got you. Can Drake say nigga? I mean he does, can't.
But do you feel away? No, you don't feel it
(24:40):
because he's black. He's half black? Oh damn mind fuck, No,
I ain't saying that. Yeah, yeah, Chuck, Drake is half black,
and what man, that's I don't even know. I don't
(25:01):
even know if they exactly it's crazy. You don't. You
ain't gonna Cayrie me. You don't know. You don't know
what he is. I don't know, man, damn me. He's
light skinned. So I'm tripping a dn say, Drake, you
can say whatever the you want to say. So Drake
can't say nigga without you get so you feel a
way about Drake saying that, I'm trying to reset. No,
(25:24):
I'm just asked her to reset that. No, should have
reset for the clip. No, I ain't gonna give me iteah, yeah,
the other on the other one riding the tissue. Okay,
that's what you want to do. No, that ain't the
five Factory studios and toss some waters over the big
(25:47):
ass million dollar boards. Uh moving forward. Uh. One of
the lines that he said on the album, you didn't
want to even talk about this, one of the lines
that people are talking about it. It's gonna be all
by the time people see this, right is it refers
to shots and lying, but she's still a stallion. People
(26:13):
initially thought that it was at magde Stallion. Little Yachtie
jumps into the conversation says, no, that's not the case.
He's literally just talking about girls getting butt shots, lying
about it. How it's a joke on play on words, Drake.
Nobody's doing though, And I mean to be honest, that's
just what it is. It's a play on words, and
(26:37):
it's one of those tricky situations because it's like in
hip hop, we like this competitiveness, we like people talking
is and what I think I'm gonna be honest, I
think nobody responded on Certified lover Boy. As far as
the album coming out, nobody really talked about it like
it was literally one day was people talked about the album,
Nobody really talked about it after that. Right this one,
(26:58):
people are kind of like kicking up us, keeping the conversation.
And I think he knows if he talks spicy on this,
it's gonna create the conversation more if people want it
into the album, of course. But Drake know what he's doing.
He's too, he's he's elite at this shit. He knew
its gonna cause controversy. He knew it was gonna be
(27:19):
he knew, he knew they know everything. Do you think
he told y'all need to speak out. No, Drake don't
have to tell nobody to do nothing. And this is
something that I really appreciate about about Drake. Okay, Drake
will articulate everything. It's just that he doesn't do interviews
like that. True. So if he does another sit down
(27:42):
and beat out an Elliott or chuck this on DJ head,
whatever he does, he's already doing with Elliott. No, he's
not unless that's part of the fake rollout too. But
Elliott talked about it. He said he's got one in Toronto.
I think it might know that was old That was
from last time, Nah, I think, well, we'll see that
was from last time. Sure, yes, sure, yes, well Elliott
(28:05):
posted like yeah with the tower behind him that from
that was from the previous Drake interview. Anyway, wherever he
does his conversation piece, he has no problem articulating. I
mean he has a player on words. It's hip hop.
Or he'll say or like I don't have no no
malice towards her or any whatever the case may be.
(28:27):
And I like that he always is clear in his
in his in his thoughts, but he knows what he's doing.
It's obviously wordplay. I don't necessarily think it was necessary,
but also it's hip hop like it sometimes it gets
uncomfortable and sometimes, like when it comes to her specifically, No,
I don't think that you should make light of somebody's
(28:48):
Trump question. Yeah, but nigga, if you think about what
hip hop is, it's documenting our trauma, all of it.
No different than talking about so and so getting murdered
or so and so getting shot or so. I think
it's just people pick and choose when they want to
be activists. Not not her or her family situation, right,
but Twitter and all that shit. The think pieces that
(29:08):
come think pieces, the YouTube breakdowns and ship them people well,
to be fair, she responded, and she took she felt
a way about it, and so now she's speaking out
about that. And I think that's the only difference. That
that's the only difference in this situation. You're right, when
you have the outside talking about it doesn't make sense.
(29:29):
It doesn't make sense. But y'all can keep chattering. But
when you got the person that has been a victim
speaking on that. But here play Devil's advocate, though, does
she say anything if if it never became a thing?
Said again, does she does she respond if it never
blew up and became a thing, if that bar just
went under the radar like all the rest of the bars,
does she still speak out? Meaning that if nobody else
(29:52):
brought it up, and nobody else know, it didn't become
a Twitter thread, it never became a trending topic. It
doesn't be it's not in a share room, it never
became a topic of discussion. I think she would I'm
gonna tell you why, because somebody else would have probably
sent it to her. Hey man, you know you hurt,
Hey you heard this, and she would have probably said
something maybe, But then that would have that would have
blewed the situation up bigger than it had to be
as well. Yeah, I don't know, man. I And the
(30:14):
thing is, I don't I'm not sitting here trying to
police lyrics as well. But at the same time, you know,
you gotta pick and choose when you want to kind
of have that that battle. And I and here's the thing,
I don't really see him a lot of people. I
mean no, I guess he is kind of coming under fire,
but it's not a boycott Drake. You don't see people
(30:36):
holding up the picket signs in that sense. You hear
the conversations, but it's not to the point of let's
take the lyric out, let's change the album, you know
what I mean, nothing like that. Cancel just cancel. Shit
is stupid and it's never gonna stick. It's not a thing. Like.
All it takes is want is somebody to do something
(30:59):
that you've that benefits you or fuck with you in
order for you to well, you know, this wasn't that
bad or blah blah blah. Like it's just we in
a hyper sensitive time. So I don't I don't see
people canceling Drake. Why not why not? Why not? Why
not cancel Drake? Because I mean because they almost canceled Lizzo.
(31:20):
I don't think they. I don't think people look at
Drake like that, like like say, for instance, if damn
if let's say, uh, who's a bad guy and hip hop? Yeah?
Right like right now the baby? If the baby did it?
(31:41):
Oh yeah, I mean they was on his ass when
he made a song with Tory Lanez. That's my point.
Drake is not a bad guy. When you when you
when you position yourself in that way as a villain
than people villain, at what point do you become a
cross over and become the bad guy? You don't become
an TI hero. You gotta break it down from because
(32:03):
I'm not into a comics. A villain, a villain is
somebody like the like the Joker, where they thrive on
chaos and turmoil and carnage. Right then you have the
hero who is against all that crime fighter. Right then
you have the anti hero Thanos. Thanos he gonna do
(32:29):
some fucked up ship but the cause he feels like
it's justified. So you're saying Drake is an anti No,
he's not. No, how not? How that's that's the part
I'm kind of having. No, he's he that would be
an anti hero. So he's he's he's a hero. He's
a hero, and people don't view him as a villain.
(32:50):
But in real life he's an anti hero because he'll
talk crazy shit, say all kind of shit, fuck your girls,
take your mama out to eat. He's an anti hero.
But to the public, to the public, he's not that.
He's not a villain. But the baby Tory Lanes who
else are looked at it. They're looked at this villain.
(33:11):
Fifty fifty is an anti hero, But at what point
he wasn't a hero to begin with? Though, yeah he's
fifty when he came out with that, that's a villain. Fifth, No,
fifty has been an anti hero his whole career. But
as far as the public's view, oh, the public, yeah, villain.
(33:33):
So I'm saying, like, who picks and chooses who that is?
Actually don't know the difference. I'm just going on speculatively,
like comic book references, But people don't know the difference.
What would it take for somebody for the world public
to view Drake as an anti hero? He would have
to go all the way left like Tory did and
lean all the way into the bullshit for instance. But
(33:53):
Drake is really not that, That's what I'm saying. You
can still portray that image though, Yeah, but he's really
But I'm about the like I know people who's I
know of him. I know people that know Drake personally
right and have had personal relationships with Drake. He really
is a good guy. Yeah, yeah, like a really good guy,
you know what I'm saying, as far as like he
look out for people he really want to like talk
(34:14):
and have opinions and shit like that. He looked out
for people financially just randomly, like hey man, you know,
I know he's hard right now COVID seeing the guy's
playing video. So yeah, but not even but I'm saying,
I know these real people who he's helped where it's
not on the mainstream and nobody knows about us, and
so it's like he's a genuinely good guy. I don't
think genuinely good people are genuinely good guys like that
(34:37):
can be villainized in the same way. That makes sense.
If you see Drake taking off on people, people look
at like what do you do? What the other person do? Yes,
got it right. It's like when when I saw twenty
one Savage speak on Takeoff. Twenty one Savage was on
the same thing. Yeah, he said, if I take off
arguing with somebody, I know the other person wrong right,
(34:58):
Glasses told me the same thing about He's like if
I received Yeah, he was like, if somebody ever do
something in regards to you or y'all, see y'all you
you ad it with somebody, I know that they did
something because you're not the person that's gonna start some ship.
So are you the anti hero? I'm an anti hero?
But the public view, so I think it depends on
who you're talking to. Some people look at you as
(35:19):
the villain. Correct. Interesting, interesting and interesting. Yeah, I'm just
I'm curious to see how this plays out because again
this is within the first week, but this album dropping,
so me the conversations up there, who knows, uh, you know,
if he'll articulate himself and and like you said, break down. Yes,
(35:41):
that was double unton truth. It's a play on words.
No harm, no, no, no, no malice towards Meg. But
I know people feel away, they ship, people feel away
because people, you know, cut down trees and make toilet
paper and then they still wipe their ass. That's crazy, right,
some folks got the days and they still wiping their
ass or something. Shout out to the baby. Well and
(36:06):
we can get out of here, but shout out to
the baby. I really love. I like now when people
become a villain. I like that. You become the whole thing.
Just cross all the way, just be the whole villain, Okay.
And that's that's the laying. The baby is in right now,
and I like it. I fuck with it. So he's
the villain. And because he took heat because his tickets
(36:26):
was on sale by one and get one free. Yeah,
and I got I got in some ship because I
defind I didn't defend him, but I said on Twitter
that the people are talking about the baby the bay
won't get one free or the same people who will
be complaining about ticket prices. You got to pick a struggle,
bro right, pick a struggle, like do you want? What
do you want? Because here's the thing. If Cadillac, no,
(36:47):
I do you want better? If they start offering by
one get one free gallons of gas? Are you jumping
on it? Nobody's like man Chevrard fell off. You in line.
You know what I'm saying, Niggas picking shoes when they
want a villain, when they want to pile on and
and pack a nigga out. I'm not with that. Well,
I mean to be fair, Like we talked about in
(37:08):
the beginning, people love seeing a train record car crash.
People love seeing the demise, whether it's I'm not gonna
say that, people don't love to see that, but they
they they they're inclined to watch it go down. So
what you're seeing with the baby right now, based off
the last year, right, people will look at that trajectory
and be like, oh, yeah, he's getting what he deserves.
(37:30):
They're just sitting there watching it. I understand that. But
you also see him building it up. If he's doing shows,
he's on the road, he's working whatever, Like that's cool.
Like BA won't get one free that's a that's not
like a great deal to me. You're not complaining about that.
If they doing that with Jordan's ball, get one free
pair of Jordan, nobody man, Mike fell Off. Ain't nobody
(37:52):
thinking that you on the website clicking your ass off
trying to get that by trying to get one of
them to get the other you know, So it's like, bro,
pick and shoes, like y'all pick and choose when y'all
want to like do that. And I'm not I'm just
not with the mob mentality. I don't like the Lynch
mob shit. I just like, what if? What if the
buy one, get one free was because there are low
(38:13):
ticket sales and that's because of people not necessarily wanting
to support him. That's fine, you don't gotta go, but
to be like, but to but to pile on to like,
oh you fell off, and it's like, well, did he
fall off? Or is that market just somewhere where people
decide not to go to the show, which is a
fair assessment. It's not that it's not that they could
(38:35):
be that or that situation. It's not that crazy. And
I see people in my mentions like you caping for
the baby And this is a direct result of what
he deserves for his for his outlandish behavior. I'm like
and and and ticket sales are a direct reflection of
where you are, of the climbate of your the the
temperament of your career. Well, when when did you become
stub hub? Bro? When did you become a ticket a
(38:56):
ticket connoisseur or a fucking box office. You know what
I'm saying, Like, you don't even know what what are
you talking about? You know? So anyway, I just I
don't know. I can't, I can't do it well. I mean,
to be fair, I'm gonna throw this last quart out.
I think people are also attaching that to low low
album sales as well, so they're looking at these things
(39:17):
that's happened post his situations, right, you know the Rolling
Loud performance now, the whole meg Stallion situation, like you know,
all of that leading into album D. But to your point,
the album wasn't even marketed properly anyway, I do you
want better whose albums are killing? Well? I mean, what
(39:39):
if you go off from what his last album did first?
Is this one? That's what the comparison is going from.
The comparison is whose whose albums are killing? Right now?
I mean, can'trick Little Baby. I can't think off top.
It's probably there's you know you're talking about the ead Bunny. Yeah,
(40:01):
bad Bunny did the Sofi stated it was the eighty
thousand fuck you, Like, I don't know, it's just it's
just stupid to me, Like it's really dumb. The albums
album sales have been declining. It's there if you look
at it. I don't even gotta pu up the numbers.
But if you look at the album sales, I guarantee
you they're declining year after year of the year across
(40:22):
the board. Yeah. So it's like, bro, like give me like,
I don't know, I just want. I just want. I
don't like mob lynch mob mentality too. I think that
people just start grabbing ship and and and throwing it
all in the pot. And Bro, that's not how you
make this food taste good. Gotcha, it ain't all it
don't go all go together like that. All right, Well,
(40:43):
we'll say more for the next time. Stay connected at
Homegrown Radio across the socials and in South African Africans.
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