December 4, 2025 • 32 mins
In this powerful new episode of Hope in Christ w/Denise, Minister Denise chats with Jacqueline Goodwin, a pastor, prophetess, author, and speaker whose life is a true testimony of turning her pain into purpose.
After experiencing some of the worse seasons of her life, Jacqueline discovered that God had a greater plan for her life. After a devastating diagnosis, she sought God like never before. Remaining in His presence and standing on His promises, she came out on the other side victorious.
Today, Pastor Jacqueline uses her voice and her ministry to pour into others, helping them to see that there is nothing too hard for God, and He has a great plan for their lives.
Tune in and be encouraged as this powerful woman of God shares how God turned her story around— into a testimony of grace, hope, and victory in Christ Jesus!
After experiencing some of the worse seasons of her life, Jacqueline discovered that God had a greater plan for her life. After a devastating diagnosis, she sought God like never before. Remaining in His presence and standing on His promises, she came out on the other side victorious.
Today, Pastor Jacqueline uses her voice and her ministry to pour into others, helping them to see that there is nothing too hard for God, and He has a great plan for their lives.
Tune in and be encouraged as this powerful woman of God shares how God turned her story around— into a testimony of grace, hope, and victory in Christ Jesus!
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Come on, let's lift up the name of Jesus Christ.
There is none other in heaven or on earth. Welcome
to another episode of Hope in Christ with Denise here
on Kingdom Influencers Broadcast, where we place our hope in
the only hope there is Christ, Our Lord.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to Hoping Christ with the
Niece here Kingdom Influences Broadcast. I'm your host, Minister Denise,
and I thank you for joining us once again for
another episode of Hoping Christ with Denise. Remember here at
Hope in Christ, we are healthy, we are overcomers, we
have purpose, and we maintain an eternal perspective as we
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keep our focus on Christ, Jesus Our Lord. Before we
jump into today's episode, I'm gonna open us up with
a word of prayer and then we're gonna have an amazing,
amazing interview from Minister Jacqueline Goodwin, who is gonna talk
to us about turning pain into purpose. God, we thank you,
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O God for this opportunity. We thank you, O God
for this time. We thank you, Lord God for what
you have to say to us. We thank you, Lo
God for this platform being able to take the message
of the Cross to the world and we bless you
when we go orify your name through this platform, and
we pray that others will hear O God and that
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there will be transformation and changing their hearts and their
lives in Jesus' name A man, a man and Amen.
So again, thank you all for joining Hope and Christ
with Denise here on Kingdom Influences Broadcast and without further
or do, we are going to jump into our interview
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with again a Minister Jacqueline Goodwin. So before we start
with any of the turning Paint into Purpose interview, we
want to ask Minister Jacqueline to tell us a little
bit about herself. Well, thank you, Minister Denisa having me
on such an amazing platform. I'm just honored to be
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here on this platform with you today. A little bit
about myself. I am the pastor of Healing in Vessa
into Nationalministries dot com. I am an international speaker, an
Amazon bestselling author.
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I am a.
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Mother of three beautiful young adults children, two girls. I
have two daughters, one son, two amazing grandsons and one granddaughter.
And also I am a coach and I just enjoy
helping people turning their pain into purpose.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Amen. Amen. Amen.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So again, thank you for joining us this morning, this evening,
this afternoon, wherever people are in the world.
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So we're going to jump into the interview.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
The first question is, without being too specific, can you
share a bit on your relationship journey and how those
difficult experiences ultimately shaped who you are today.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah.
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So, my relationship journey took me through some of the
darkest valleys of my life. I experienced betrayal, heartbreak, and
emotional pain that left deep wounds. And one of the
most defining chapters came when someone I deeply trusted infected
me with HIV. That diagnosis could have destroyed me. And
I remember getting that diagnosis and I was sitting at
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the doctor's office, I'm going to get see what was
going on with me, but coming out not expecting that
diagnosis and just looking and when the doctor given that diagnosis,
I just could look at the door and see the
cross on the door of Glory be to God and
just saying as the doctor was going over my diagnosis,
just looking at the car, saying, Lord, I know that
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if you can raise letters from the dead, glory to God,
that you can hear my body and the doctor looking
at me like, Okay, what are you doing.
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I'm just like, I just got to go.
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Talk to the doctor doctors, because just knowing who God
is and that there's nothing too hard for him to do,
and just getting before God in a time of prayer
and fast and seeking in his face. And I just
remember telling my doctor I gotta go home.
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I got to get in my prayer closet. And at that.
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Time, the the receptionist was my prayer partner. And I
thank God by having women of God and men of
God that truly would go before God to the throne
on your behalf, just boldly believing God and believing that
when they go that God is going to answer.
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And I just remember.
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Sister Paula just going before God and just asking him
praying in the doctor office.
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She literally got up from.
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Behind her desk, came to me and lay it at
my feet and began to just pray.
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And intercede on my behalf.
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Because I asked her, I said, were you being the receptionist,
do you get the diagnosis? And she said no, So
I shared with her my diagnosis. And I tell y'all
that woman that God got up got on her knees
and just began to pray. And as she prayed, and
these scriptures has really just stuck with me.
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She said, all I here is Isaiah.
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Forty three, verse two and three, and that you know
that says when thou passes through the waters, I will
be with thee and through the rivers they shall not
overflow be and without walking through the fire, thou shalt
not be burned, neither share the flame kindle upon b
But I am the Lord, thy God, the Holy One
of Israel, thy Savior. And I just began to just
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connect so deeply with that scripture. And when she said that,
the Holy Spirit just began to deal with me, going
you know, when you go home, you shut down, And
that was one way God still today deals with me,
the home spirit.
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This is me.
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I shut down from all social media and just lay
before the Lord until he releases me. But I remember
him telling me that you know, to go home, shut down.
Tell your mother that you need to cover you in prayer,
cover you because you were going on a fast. And
she my mom, glordby to God that's already gone home
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to be with the Lord. She did not ask any question.
She's another phenomenal intercessor, prayer warrior. She just began to
intercede on my behalf and God turned that thing around
for me, because what the enemy thought was gonna destroy me,
it became the place where God revealed his miraculous healing.
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And it was through fast and the praying.
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And level of so render I had never walked through
before that I had to go to.
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Where God completely heal me.
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And I remember him waking me up three air in
the morning and I looked up in my ceiling, Glory
be to God, and I saw two words. I saw negative,
Glory be to God.
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And I saw that I was healed, and I just
ah glory. I got cao shock.
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I just began to give God the glory because I
knew when I saw the word negative that God had
already healed me. And I thank God for God completely
healing me. And that season did refine me and shaped
my identity in Birth by Ministry and my first book
because God began to show me. Holy Spirit revealed to
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me that HIV stood for healing in the vessel, and
Holy Spirit spoke, he said, that is your ministry. It's
going to be healing in the vessel. And then when
I had to go minister in Africa. Some years later,
coming back, flying over the water, the Holy Spirit spokeure
on the front plane and he said to me, because
you have flown over the water, the new name will
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be Healing the Vessel International Ministry. So I just thank
God for just healing me supernaturally. And that season was
where I once bled, but now it's a place where
I minister from those painful experience didn't define me, but
they prepared me to be the woman of God that
God has called me today. The pastor the prophets, the
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intercessor everything, the author that's just all tied into what
God has called and taking that pain and making it
into a purpose.
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They ain't man. The ain't man.
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I love the way God changed that up, the way
that enemy tried to, you know, steal, kill and destroy,
where God said no, it's healing in the vessel.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
And so our next question is what helped you recognize
that what you were going through needed healing and attention?
So in your in that relationship, what helped you recognize
that what you were going through at that time needed
healing and attention. During that relationship, I realized I needed
healing and I no longer recognized myself. My reactions were
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bigger than my situations. The Holy Spirit show me that
I wasn't just wounded, but I was stuck. I was broken,
you know, I was staying in something that was killing me.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Amen. I love the way you said I no longer
saw myself. Amen.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
That's powerful because a lot of women are in situations
where they don't see themselves. And so I thank God
that he chose you to, you know, turn your pain
into purpose. The third question is was there a specific
moment when you realize I can't keep living like this?
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And you kind of alluded to this. I rarely, but
if you want to add to it, so I'm gonna
ask the question again. Was there a specific moment when
you realize I can't keep living like this? A turning
point that shifted your direction? Yes, well, definitely, Minister Denise.
During the season of my HIV diagnosis, I realized I
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could not keep living broken and angry and spiritually exhausted.
And I just heard the Holy Spirit whisper, you know
this is not your ending. He began to show me,
you know this is not the end of you. The
enemy came in with a plan to kill you. Glory
be to God. But I'm gonna take this and turn
it around. Let it be a new beginning for you.
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I'm gonna take this and turn around and let you
begin to use it to help others, other women, to
realize that your diagnosis does not have to define you.
That that moment just shifted my entire direction. And I
learned that my diagnosis wasn't a captivity, that God did
not have the key, for He had the key. I
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just had to surrender totally to him.
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Amen. Amen, that's surrender. Holly Wuiash was his name.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And the next question is how did your struggles impact
your identity, your confidence, or even your sense of purpose.
My struggle stripped me of everything I thought I knew
about myself, you know, But in the breaking, God rebuilt me,
restored my confidence, and we defined my purpose because being
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with that diagnosis, I thought, you know, I wasn't worthy.
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You know, is every at.
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That time, people were dying from HIV, was escalating to age.
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And God showed me in my first book, Healing and
the Vessel, Daughter's.
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Journey of Faith and a Mother's Love and a Daughter's
Journey of Faith. God showed me and that that age
still for appearing impossible, but dying to surrender. And I
was taking to a place of surrender that I've never
been before, just allowing everything to let surrender my my groapness,
to surrender that my confidence I had lost to myself,
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like how could I allow this to happen to me?
But God began to take all that excuse me and
rebuild it and to let me know, I'm gonna take
you at the lowest point of your life, and I'm
gonna build your confidence in this and let you know
you can rise above the storm. You don't have to
wait till the storm passed, but you can rise in
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the midst of the storm. Hey man, I thank God
for you know, just the testimony that you're sharing, because
I think a lot of times we don't realize that
sometimes God is gonna He's gonna take us through that storm.
Sometimes he's not gonna take that storm away, but in
that moment, he's doing something in our lives. And like
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you said, you know, as you surrendered, he did the work.
He did all of that was needed for you and
for what He had for you to do later on
after that, the next question is when did healing begin?
For you, and what did that process look like emotionally,
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spiritually and mentally.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Amen. Glory to God.
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The healing beginning when I stopped pretending I was strong
and allowed God to deal with the real meed. You
know a lot of times we wear so many different
hats and we are being strong for so many different people.
To begin to have the mindset that we don't have
to heal, we don't have to cry, we have to
continue to be strong when we emotionally hurting and walking
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through grief. Spiritually, I was stretched through fasting and deep prayer. Mentally,
I had to unlearned survival patterns that I thought because
my ever pattern was just being strong, not expressing when
I was hurting.
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You know, sometimes in leadership, when we are hurting.
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We are so strong for so many different people that
we forget to take time and say it's.
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Okay to just cry.
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Because I truly am a believer that crying is one
of the process of healing and acknowledging another the thing
I truly believed that a knowledge and that you are hurt.
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I am hurting just.
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Because I have a title, though that does not meant
I don't believe. And when God hear my body from HIV.
He also hear my faith and my identity. I've begin
to know that I was more than just a diagnosis.
I was more than just my pain. I was more
than just the brokeness.
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Hey man, hallelujah.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Another way you said, you know, you talked about, you know, crying,
and I think we all kind of were raised to
be strong, and sometimes you just have to release that
and let go, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
And because I agree.
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That, you know, when we cried, when we release and
we let it all out and we giving it to God,
it is healing. It's you know, I remember several times,
you know, experiencing that in God telling me to release
things to Him and allowing me to go through those
emotional you know, those emotional times of releasing tears and
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anger and even fears too. That's it, and so absolutely
thank you Jesus. And the next question is you're now
an author and a properties as well, and a pastor
as well. How did your calling begin to unfold? So
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take us back to how it began to unfold, and
was it during or after these difficult seasons?
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Well, my collun began to fold.
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The prophetic began to fold when I was younger before
I went through my diagnosis of HIV. I was younger,
didn't understand it was talking to different leaders that I
thought understood, and it didn't. So God was just shifting
me and leading me to people that could help me
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develop and grow in my gift. I really just remember
being young as three that I thought I was crazy.
The Holy Spirit would be speaking and showing me different
stuff and then it would manifest and I'm like, Okay,
I'm losing my mind. And one particular episode was was
when I was in the eighth grade and this girl
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had stolen my jacket. My dad had brought me from
christ We went back to school in January and she
stole it. We were at a dance and someone told
me that she had stolen it, and they was like,
you don't want to mess with her, you know, because
she's one of the bad girls, as we call it.
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Like the fight. So I remember going home and just praying,
just ask a guy.
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You know, guy, my daddy blessed me with that jacket,
can you just help me to get it back? And
the Holy Spirit showed me where she stayed and people
one of my friends, she was like, we're not going
to go to the hospol.
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We could walk. She used to walk to me. We
could walk to her house from the school I was going.
I was like, no, well, I'm going.
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I said, I'm just taking the Holy Spirit with me.
I'm going, and I went. And then I tell you,
the Holy Spirit had her so humble. She literally just
went in the house and handed me my jacket. She
didn't try to fight or anything. And that's why I
just began to see that that prayer was working and
beginning to see as a and the prophetic God showing
me stuff. And it started to manifest as I get
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older and spending time in prayer and fasting and in
my words, and as far as the pastor. Right before
my mom died, I was visiting one of the pastor.
Oh gosh, Mother Lake and Pastor Lake and a powerful
woman God that's also going home to God. And I
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was rising her ministry and she was telling me about
you know, God is calling you higher into pastorship. And
I remember one of my older pastor the whole sp
have been dealing with me while I was in the
process of writing my first book and about my testimony
and letting me know that He was calling me into pastorship,
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and I was like, Lord, I don't know about that.
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And then when he gave.
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Me the type, because I said in the missis prassett,
I don't have a title for the ministry. And since
I got that off my lip, the hostpirit dropped the
title in my spirits.
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He said, I have been taking you through it.
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Your testimony is your ministry, that is your church. That
that is what I'm birthing you for. So that is
how I began into pastorship. And I met another pastor
that helped me along my jurtey and developing me.
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As a pastor, Bishop Chaf who's also going home with
the Lord. So that door was and then.
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I as an author, I've just been writing in my diary.
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That just began. I think when I was probably gosh.
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I used to like when the teachers would give me
in like third grade, we used to have to write
these little Miss Garden used to give me these little
give the class, these little English props that we would
have to write, and I would always write above and beyond,
and so she sort of encouraged me, you know, to
continue with my writing. And as I got older, my
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dad bought me my first diary, and I started writing
in there, and as I got in junior high school,
I started writing poems. So that just began the journey
of how everything unfold for me. It was just doing
in the midst of being birth in my battles, I
would say, fasting and seeking God.
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That's where the prophetic gift was.
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Awakened in just my writing was away also of me healing,
So that just helped me turn my I see author
ship as a ministry for me as well, because I
think even in my writing, that is the way God
is always having me just sit around healing.
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Amen. I agree that writing is absolutely healing.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
You know. I walked through that too, the healing and
your he heals us first and then he sends us.
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Out to help kill others, and that part, yeah, I've
lost love. I still journal.
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I still like because it's like sometimes we don't want
tom like you feel it, but you don't want to
let it out. There are times that God is like,
come on over here and see. So I absolutely agree.
The next question is what role did your faith play
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in helping you navigate through your heartbreak and any disappointments
that you have. My faith was my anchor, God's word
carried me when I had no strength left. My faith
reminded me that my heartbreak was not my end. You
know that God is the ultimate healer. He is Jehovah Ralphie,
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and he healed the wounded. So as I just begin
to just talk to him and pour out to him,
you know, you know, experiencing going through.
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An affair, I'm doing my marriage.
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Experiencing all that, and just in relationship, you know, dealing with.
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Guys that I've dated, just cheating.
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It was that going back to just talking to my
father and just saying, you know, Daddy, just I'll just
go Daddy, my heart is broken. You know why am
I hurting? You know, I'm being faithful. I'm doing everything
that I think that I should be doing as a wife,
as a friend, as you know, someone that's just worthy
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to be considered data. And you know, so during that
time of my heartbreak, and I do think again, my faith,
as I said before, it was my anchor and just
just past fasting and praying has really also been key
elements that have taken me through heartbreaks of being pdrey.
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And having my heart broken. Amen.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Amen, Amen, we have a couple more questions for you.
The next questionally is for listeners who may feel stuff
in toxic or unhealthy relationship patterns, what is one piece
of wisdom you wish someone had told you earlier. Stop
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trying to resonate what God is trying to bury and
you cannot heal in a place that keeps wounding you.
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That's so good.
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And I would say even also in relationship, even you know,
family relationship, whatever the relationship is, that's causing wounded you know,
I agree, yes. And then the next question is how
have your past experiences influenced the message you share in
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your writing and prophetic ministry today? And I know you
kind of talked about it, but if you want to
add to so, the question again is how have your
past experiences influenced the message you share in your writing
and prophetic ministry today? My past experience, my past is
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the all of my ministry, I would say, because my
past has really helped birth my ministry.
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So I would say it's the all of my ministry.
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My healing journey, including my HIV testimony, have gave me
compassion and the authority to speak to broken places in others.
So I just feel like that is just always where
God hansidered me to be.
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That's where he has planted me to be, even in.
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Him dealing with He's been birthed and dealery bout being
a coach, a wellness coach, and that is even in
the platform of that becoming a coach that has even
been centered around healing. You know, So the I am
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going to step into that moving from hose to hold
coaching business.
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This he's just always it goes back to healing because he.
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Showed me with that as I was walking in a
park that just like trees that have hold, we have
hols and the holes are those broken places and we're
trying to get to that place of holeness in Christ Jesus.
So I just believe that that's where my past have experienced,
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and my past experience have influenced my writing and my ministry.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
It has given me the all too rite and ministry. Amen. Amen, Amen.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
And then we have this last question about turning pain
into purpose.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
And then you're gonna share.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I would like for you to share how people can
connect with you and purchase your resources. So the last
question here is if you could speak directly to your
younger self, the version of you who was struggling through
those relationships, What would.
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You say to her? Now? Okay, if I could speak
to my younger self, I would.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Say, baby girl, you are worthy of real Stop shrinking
to fit places. God is trying to pull you out
of and everything that hurts you now will one day
become your testimony.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
That's so good.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
And then this question just popped in my spirit is
also what would be some last words that you would
say to the listener, to the woman that maybe that
little girl that's still lost inside of her, what would
you say to her as you're closing words, I would
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let them know to every woman who feels lost, if
you're not forgotten and you're not too far God. You
may feel hidden, but you're not abandoned, and God is
waiting to hold you to direct you. Don't let your mistakes,
your heart breaks, your confusion disqualify you, because you are
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still chosen and you'll still love and you're still called,
and don't give up, don't settle, and don't strength.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Amen, thank you for me and Arterbo telling your testimony
helping us to understand how you turn your pain into purpose.
And so the last question before we close out, how
can others connect with you or purchase your materials or
even book you to speak okay. Others can connect with
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me on Facebook Facebook under Jackelin Goodwin are Through. The
ministry also has a Facebook page Healing the Vest International
Ministries and my books are on Amazon and also on
my website www dot Healing in the vestor Internationalministries dot com.
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You can connect with me on Instagram at Laniska the
Niece Goodwin and I'm on TikTok as author Jacqueline Goodwin.
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And if you want to book me for.
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Speaking engagements or any coaching, you can contact me at
eight zero three eight one four four one six two,
or you can reach you can email me at moving from.
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Hos h O l E S to whole w h
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E at ProtonMail dot com. Hey man, and again, thank you,
thank you, Thank you minister Jacqueline for joining us. I'm
gonna pray us out and then I just pray that
your ministry will continue to reach the masses and the
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people would be healed.
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And made a whole.
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Thank you Jesus, Father, Way, thank you Lord God for
this opportunity. We thank you for hearing this great testimony.
We thank you for the miracle signs and wonders that
have followed your daughter. God, we thank you, Lord, God,
that you have no respect a person. So Father, we
thank you that every woman, every person that is listening
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to God can cry out to you, O God, and
they can be delivered and set free and save, O God,
and they can walk in the newness of purpose that
you have plan for us from the beginning.
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God.
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And so God, we thank you when we praise you,
when we pray that your daughter will continue to go
forth in your name and continue to minister and love
on and help others to come out and walk in
there from and come out of their pain and move
into the purpose that you have for them. God, in
the name of Jesus God, we give you glory, we
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give you honor, for we know that you are worthy,
and you are the only one worthy God, for you
are worthy to be praised, Oh God, from the rising
of the sun to the going down of the same,
we praise you, and we worship your name in Jesus' name.
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Amen, Amen, and Amen Amen. Thank you Jesus.
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So again, thank you all for tuning in to hope
in Christ with Denise. Here, I'm Kingdom Influences Broadcast and
we pray that you have a phenomenal, amazing rest of
your week, and we pray that you will definitely put
your hope in Christ Jesus, because that's the only hope
there is.
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Amen. Amen, Amen, all right,
Come on, let's lift up the name of Jesus Christ.
There is none other in heaven or on earth. Welcome
to another episode of Hope in Christ with Denise here
on Kingdom Influencers Broadcast, where we place our hope in
the only hope there is Christ, Our Lord.
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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to Hoping Christ with the
Niece here Kingdom Influences Broadcast. I'm your host, Minister Denise,
and I thank you for joining us once again for
another episode of Hoping Christ with Denise. Remember here at
Hope in Christ, we are healthy, we are overcomers, we
have purpose, and we maintain an eternal perspective as we
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keep our focus on Christ, Jesus Our Lord. Before we
jump into today's episode, I'm gonna open us up with
a word of prayer and then we're gonna have an amazing,
amazing interview from Minister Jacqueline Goodwin, who is gonna talk
to us about turning pain into purpose. God, we thank you,
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O God for this opportunity. We thank you, O God
for this time. We thank you, Lord God for what
you have to say to us. We thank you, Lo
God for this platform being able to take the message
of the Cross to the world and we bless you
when we go orify your name through this platform, and
we pray that others will hear O God and that
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there will be transformation and changing their hearts and their
lives in Jesus' name A man, a man and Amen.
So again, thank you all for joining Hope and Christ
with Denise here on Kingdom Influences Broadcast and without further
or do, we are going to jump into our interview
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with again a Minister Jacqueline Goodwin. So before we start
with any of the turning Paint into Purpose interview, we
want to ask Minister Jacqueline to tell us a little
bit about herself. Well, thank you, Minister Denisa having me
on such an amazing platform. I'm just honored to be
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here on this platform with you today. A little bit
about myself. I am the pastor of Healing in Vessa
into Nationalministries dot com. I am an international speaker, an
Amazon bestselling author.
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I am a.
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Mother of three beautiful young adults children, two girls. I
have two daughters, one son, two amazing grandsons and one granddaughter.
And also I am a coach and I just enjoy
helping people turning their pain into purpose.
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Amen. Amen. Amen.
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So again, thank you for joining us this morning, this evening,
this afternoon, wherever people are in the world.
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So we're going to jump into the interview.
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The first question is, without being too specific, can you
share a bit on your relationship journey and how those
difficult experiences ultimately shaped who you are today.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah.
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So, my relationship journey took me through some of the
darkest valleys of my life. I experienced betrayal, heartbreak, and
emotional pain that left deep wounds. And one of the
most defining chapters came when someone I deeply trusted infected
me with HIV. That diagnosis could have destroyed me. And
I remember getting that diagnosis and I was sitting at
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the doctor's office, I'm going to get see what was
going on with me, but coming out not expecting that
diagnosis and just looking and when the doctor given that diagnosis,
I just could look at the door and see the
cross on the door of Glory be to God and
just saying as the doctor was going over my diagnosis,
just looking at the car, saying, Lord, I know that
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if you can raise letters from the dead, glory to God,
that you can hear my body and the doctor looking
at me like, Okay, what are you doing.
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I'm just like, I just got to go.
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Talk to the doctor doctors, because just knowing who God
is and that there's nothing too hard for him to do,
and just getting before God in a time of prayer
and fast and seeking in his face. And I just
remember telling my doctor I gotta go home.
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I got to get in my prayer closet. And at that.
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Time, the the receptionist was my prayer partner. And I
thank God by having women of God and men of
God that truly would go before God to the throne
on your behalf, just boldly believing God and believing that
when they go that God is going to answer.
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And I just remember.
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Sister Paula just going before God and just asking him
praying in the doctor office.
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She literally got up from.
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Behind her desk, came to me and lay it at
my feet and began to just pray.
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And intercede on my behalf.
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Because I asked her, I said, were you being the receptionist,
do you get the diagnosis? And she said no, So
I shared with her my diagnosis. And I tell y'all
that woman that God got up got on her knees
and just began to pray. And as she prayed, and
these scriptures has really just stuck with me.
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She said, all I here is Isaiah.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Forty three, verse two and three, and that you know
that says when thou passes through the waters, I will
be with thee and through the rivers they shall not
overflow be and without walking through the fire, thou shalt
not be burned, neither share the flame kindle upon b
But I am the Lord, thy God, the Holy One
of Israel, thy Savior. And I just began to just
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connect so deeply with that scripture. And when she said that,
the Holy Spirit just began to deal with me, going
you know, when you go home, you shut down, And
that was one way God still today deals with me,
the home spirit.
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This is me.
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I shut down from all social media and just lay
before the Lord until he releases me. But I remember
him telling me that you know, to go home, shut down.
Tell your mother that you need to cover you in prayer,
cover you because you were going on a fast. And
she my mom, glordby to God that's already gone home
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to be with the Lord. She did not ask any question.
She's another phenomenal intercessor, prayer warrior. She just began to
intercede on my behalf and God turned that thing around
for me, because what the enemy thought was gonna destroy me,
it became the place where God revealed his miraculous healing.
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And it was through fast and the praying.
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And level of so render I had never walked through
before that I had to go to.
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Where God completely heal me.
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And I remember him waking me up three air in
the morning and I looked up in my ceiling, Glory
be to God, and I saw two words. I saw negative,
Glory be to God.
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And I saw that I was healed, and I just
ah glory. I got cao shock.
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I just began to give God the glory because I
knew when I saw the word negative that God had
already healed me. And I thank God for God completely
healing me. And that season did refine me and shaped
my identity in Birth by Ministry and my first book
because God began to show me. Holy Spirit revealed to
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me that HIV stood for healing in the vessel, and
Holy Spirit spoke, he said, that is your ministry. It's
going to be healing in the vessel. And then when
I had to go minister in Africa. Some years later,
coming back, flying over the water, the Holy Spirit spokeure
on the front plane and he said to me, because
you have flown over the water, the new name will
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be Healing the Vessel International Ministry. So I just thank
God for just healing me supernaturally. And that season was
where I once bled, but now it's a place where
I minister from those painful experience didn't define me, but
they prepared me to be the woman of God that
God has called me today. The pastor the prophets, the
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intercessor everything, the author that's just all tied into what
God has called and taking that pain and making it
into a purpose.
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They ain't man. The ain't man.
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I love the way God changed that up, the way
that enemy tried to, you know, steal, kill and destroy,
where God said no, it's healing in the vessel.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
And so our next question is what helped you recognize
that what you were going through needed healing and attention?
So in your in that relationship, what helped you recognize
that what you were going through at that time needed
healing and attention. During that relationship, I realized I needed
healing and I no longer recognized myself. My reactions were
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bigger than my situations. The Holy Spirit show me that
I wasn't just wounded, but I was stuck. I was broken,
you know, I was staying in something that was killing me.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Amen. I love the way you said I no longer
saw myself. Amen.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
That's powerful because a lot of women are in situations
where they don't see themselves. And so I thank God
that he chose you to, you know, turn your pain
into purpose. The third question is was there a specific
moment when you realize I can't keep living like this?
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And you kind of alluded to this. I rarely, but
if you want to add to it, so I'm gonna
ask the question again. Was there a specific moment when
you realize I can't keep living like this? A turning
point that shifted your direction? Yes, well, definitely, Minister Denise.
During the season of my HIV diagnosis, I realized I
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could not keep living broken and angry and spiritually exhausted.
And I just heard the Holy Spirit whisper, you know
this is not your ending. He began to show me,
you know this is not the end of you. The
enemy came in with a plan to kill you. Glory
be to God. But I'm gonna take this and turn
it around. Let it be a new beginning for you.
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I'm gonna take this and turn around and let you
begin to use it to help others, other women, to
realize that your diagnosis does not have to define you.
That that moment just shifted my entire direction. And I
learned that my diagnosis wasn't a captivity, that God did
not have the key, for He had the key. I
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just had to surrender totally to him.
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Amen. Amen, that's surrender. Holly Wuiash was his name.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And the next question is how did your struggles impact
your identity, your confidence, or even your sense of purpose.
My struggle stripped me of everything I thought I knew
about myself, you know, But in the breaking, God rebuilt me,
restored my confidence, and we defined my purpose because being
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with that diagnosis, I thought, you know, I wasn't worthy.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
You know, is every at.
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That time, people were dying from HIV, was escalating to age.
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And God showed me in my first book, Healing and
the Vessel, Daughter's.
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Journey of Faith and a Mother's Love and a Daughter's
Journey of Faith. God showed me and that that age
still for appearing impossible, but dying to surrender. And I
was taking to a place of surrender that I've never
been before, just allowing everything to let surrender my my groapness,
to surrender that my confidence I had lost to myself,
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like how could I allow this to happen to me?
But God began to take all that excuse me and
rebuild it and to let me know, I'm gonna take
you at the lowest point of your life, and I'm
gonna build your confidence in this and let you know
you can rise above the storm. You don't have to
wait till the storm passed, but you can rise in
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the midst of the storm. Hey man, I thank God
for you know, just the testimony that you're sharing, because
I think a lot of times we don't realize that
sometimes God is gonna He's gonna take us through that storm.
Sometimes he's not gonna take that storm away, but in
that moment, he's doing something in our lives. And like
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you said, you know, as you surrendered, he did the work.
He did all of that was needed for you and
for what He had for you to do later on
after that, the next question is when did healing begin?
For you, and what did that process look like emotionally,
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spiritually and mentally.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Amen. Glory to God.
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The healing beginning when I stopped pretending I was strong
and allowed God to deal with the real meed. You
know a lot of times we wear so many different
hats and we are being strong for so many different people.
To begin to have the mindset that we don't have
to heal, we don't have to cry, we have to
continue to be strong when we emotionally hurting and walking
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through grief. Spiritually, I was stretched through fasting and deep prayer. Mentally,
I had to unlearned survival patterns that I thought because
my ever pattern was just being strong, not expressing when
I was hurting.
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You know, sometimes in leadership, when we are hurting.
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We are so strong for so many different people that
we forget to take time and say it's.
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Okay to just cry.
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Because I truly am a believer that crying is one
of the process of healing and acknowledging another the thing
I truly believed that a knowledge and that you are hurt.
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I am hurting just.
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Because I have a title, though that does not meant
I don't believe. And when God hear my body from HIV.
He also hear my faith and my identity. I've begin
to know that I was more than just a diagnosis.
I was more than just my pain. I was more
than just the brokeness.
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Hey man, hallelujah.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Another way you said, you know, you talked about, you know, crying,
and I think we all kind of were raised to
be strong, and sometimes you just have to release that
and let go, you know.
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And because I agree.
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That, you know, when we cried, when we release and
we let it all out and we giving it to God,
it is healing. It's you know, I remember several times,
you know, experiencing that in God telling me to release
things to Him and allowing me to go through those
emotional you know, those emotional times of releasing tears and
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anger and even fears too. That's it, and so absolutely
thank you Jesus. And the next question is you're now
an author and a properties as well, and a pastor
as well. How did your calling begin to unfold? So
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take us back to how it began to unfold, and
was it during or after these difficult seasons?
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Well, my collun began to fold.
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The prophetic began to fold when I was younger before
I went through my diagnosis of HIV. I was younger,
didn't understand it was talking to different leaders that I
thought understood, and it didn't. So God was just shifting
me and leading me to people that could help me
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develop and grow in my gift. I really just remember
being young as three that I thought I was crazy.
The Holy Spirit would be speaking and showing me different
stuff and then it would manifest and I'm like, Okay,
I'm losing my mind. And one particular episode was was
when I was in the eighth grade and this girl
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had stolen my jacket. My dad had brought me from
christ We went back to school in January and she
stole it. We were at a dance and someone told
me that she had stolen it, and they was like,
you don't want to mess with her, you know, because
she's one of the bad girls, as we call it.
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Like the fight. So I remember going home and just praying,
just ask a guy.
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You know, guy, my daddy blessed me with that jacket,
can you just help me to get it back? And
the Holy Spirit showed me where she stayed and people
one of my friends, she was like, we're not going
to go to the hospol.
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We could walk. She used to walk to me. We
could walk to her house from the school I was going.
I was like, no, well, I'm going.
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I said, I'm just taking the Holy Spirit with me.
I'm going, and I went. And then I tell you,
the Holy Spirit had her so humble. She literally just
went in the house and handed me my jacket. She
didn't try to fight or anything. And that's why I
just began to see that that prayer was working and
beginning to see as a and the prophetic God showing
me stuff. And it started to manifest as I get
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older and spending time in prayer and fasting and in
my words, and as far as the pastor. Right before
my mom died, I was visiting one of the pastor.
Oh gosh, Mother Lake and Pastor Lake and a powerful
woman God that's also going home to God. And I
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was rising her ministry and she was telling me about
you know, God is calling you higher into pastorship. And
I remember one of my older pastor the whole sp
have been dealing with me while I was in the
process of writing my first book and about my testimony
and letting me know that He was calling me into pastorship,
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and I was like, Lord, I don't know about that.
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And then when he gave.
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Me the type, because I said in the missis prassett,
I don't have a title for the ministry. And since
I got that off my lip, the hostpirit dropped the
title in my spirits.
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He said, I have been taking you through it.
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Your testimony is your ministry, that is your church. That
that is what I'm birthing you for. So that is
how I began into pastorship. And I met another pastor
that helped me along my jurtey and developing me.
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As a pastor, Bishop Chaf who's also going home with
the Lord. So that door was and then.
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I as an author, I've just been writing in my diary.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
That just began. I think when I was probably gosh.
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I used to like when the teachers would give me
in like third grade, we used to have to write
these little Miss Garden used to give me these little
give the class, these little English props that we would
have to write, and I would always write above and beyond,
and so she sort of encouraged me, you know, to
continue with my writing. And as I got older, my
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dad bought me my first diary, and I started writing
in there, and as I got in junior high school,
I started writing poems. So that just began the journey
of how everything unfold for me. It was just doing
in the midst of being birth in my battles, I
would say, fasting and seeking God.
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That's where the prophetic gift was.
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Awakened in just my writing was away also of me healing,
So that just helped me turn my I see author
ship as a ministry for me as well, because I
think even in my writing, that is the way God
is always having me just sit around healing.
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Amen. I agree that writing is absolutely healing.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
You know. I walked through that too, the healing and
your he heals us first and then he sends us.
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Out to help kill others, and that part, yeah, I've
lost love. I still journal.
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I still like because it's like sometimes we don't want
tom like you feel it, but you don't want to
let it out. There are times that God is like,
come on over here and see. So I absolutely agree.
The next question is what role did your faith play
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in helping you navigate through your heartbreak and any disappointments
that you have. My faith was my anchor, God's word
carried me when I had no strength left. My faith
reminded me that my heartbreak was not my end. You
know that God is the ultimate healer. He is Jehovah Ralphie,
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and he healed the wounded. So as I just begin
to just talk to him and pour out to him,
you know, you know, experiencing going through.
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An affair, I'm doing my marriage.
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Experiencing all that, and just in relationship, you know, dealing with.
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Guys that I've dated, just cheating.
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It was that going back to just talking to my
father and just saying, you know, Daddy, just I'll just
go Daddy, my heart is broken. You know why am
I hurting? You know, I'm being faithful. I'm doing everything
that I think that I should be doing as a wife,
as a friend, as you know, someone that's just worthy
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to be considered data. And you know, so during that
time of my heartbreak, and I do think again, my faith,
as I said before, it was my anchor and just
just past fasting and praying has really also been key
elements that have taken me through heartbreaks of being pdrey.
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And having my heart broken. Amen.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Amen, Amen, we have a couple more questions for you.
The next questionally is for listeners who may feel stuff
in toxic or unhealthy relationship patterns, what is one piece
of wisdom you wish someone had told you earlier. Stop
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trying to resonate what God is trying to bury and
you cannot heal in a place that keeps wounding you.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
That's so good.
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And I would say even also in relationship, even you know,
family relationship, whatever the relationship is, that's causing wounded you know,
I agree, yes. And then the next question is how
have your past experiences influenced the message you share in
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your writing and prophetic ministry today? And I know you
kind of talked about it, but if you want to
add to so, the question again is how have your
past experiences influenced the message you share in your writing
and prophetic ministry today? My past experience, my past is
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the all of my ministry, I would say, because my
past has really helped birth my ministry.
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So I would say it's the all of my ministry.
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My healing journey, including my HIV testimony, have gave me
compassion and the authority to speak to broken places in others.
So I just feel like that is just always where
God hansidered me to be.
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That's where he has planted me to be, even in.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Him dealing with He's been birthed and dealery bout being
a coach, a wellness coach, and that is even in
the platform of that becoming a coach that has even
been centered around healing. You know, So the I am
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going to step into that moving from hose to hold
coaching business.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
This he's just always it goes back to healing because he.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Showed me with that as I was walking in a
park that just like trees that have hold, we have
hols and the holes are those broken places and we're
trying to get to that place of holeness in Christ Jesus.
So I just believe that that's where my past have experienced,
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and my past experience have influenced my writing and my ministry.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
It has given me the all too rite and ministry. Amen. Amen, Amen.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
And then we have this last question about turning pain
into purpose.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
And then you're gonna share.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I would like for you to share how people can
connect with you and purchase your resources. So the last
question here is if you could speak directly to your
younger self, the version of you who was struggling through
those relationships, What would.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
You say to her? Now? Okay, if I could speak
to my younger self, I would.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Say, baby girl, you are worthy of real Stop shrinking
to fit places. God is trying to pull you out
of and everything that hurts you now will one day
become your testimony.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
That's so good.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
And then this question just popped in my spirit is
also what would be some last words that you would
say to the listener, to the woman that maybe that
little girl that's still lost inside of her, what would
you say to her as you're closing words, I would
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let them know to every woman who feels lost, if
you're not forgotten and you're not too far God. You
may feel hidden, but you're not abandoned, and God is
waiting to hold you to direct you. Don't let your mistakes,
your heart breaks, your confusion disqualify you, because you are
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still chosen and you'll still love and you're still called,
and don't give up, don't settle, and don't strength.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Amen, thank you for me and Arterbo telling your testimony
helping us to understand how you turn your pain into purpose.
And so the last question before we close out, how
can others connect with you or purchase your materials or
even book you to speak okay. Others can connect with
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me on Facebook Facebook under Jackelin Goodwin are Through. The
ministry also has a Facebook page Healing the Vest International
Ministries and my books are on Amazon and also on
my website www dot Healing in the vestor Internationalministries dot com.
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You can connect with me on Instagram at Laniska the
Niece Goodwin and I'm on TikTok as author Jacqueline Goodwin.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
And if you want to book me for.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Speaking engagements or any coaching, you can contact me at
eight zero three eight one four four one six two,
or you can reach you can email me at moving from.
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Hos h O l E S to whole w h
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E at ProtonMail dot com. Hey man, and again, thank you,
thank you, Thank you minister Jacqueline for joining us. I'm
gonna pray us out and then I just pray that
your ministry will continue to reach the masses and the
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people would be healed.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
And made a whole.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Thank you Jesus, Father, Way, thank you Lord God for
this opportunity. We thank you for hearing this great testimony.
We thank you for the miracle signs and wonders that
have followed your daughter. God, we thank you, Lord, God,
that you have no respect a person. So Father, we
thank you that every woman, every person that is listening
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to God can cry out to you, O God, and
they can be delivered and set free and save, O God,
and they can walk in the newness of purpose that
you have plan for us from the beginning.
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God.
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And so God, we thank you when we praise you,
when we pray that your daughter will continue to go
forth in your name and continue to minister and love
on and help others to come out and walk in
there from and come out of their pain and move
into the purpose that you have for them. God, in
the name of Jesus God, we give you glory, we
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give you honor, for we know that you are worthy,
and you are the only one worthy God, for you
are worthy to be praised, Oh God, from the rising
of the sun to the going down of the same,
we praise you, and we worship your name in Jesus' name.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Amen, Amen, and Amen Amen. Thank you Jesus.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
So again, thank you all for tuning in to hope
in Christ with Denise. Here, I'm Kingdom Influences Broadcast and
we pray that you have a phenomenal, amazing rest of
your week, and we pray that you will definitely put
your hope in Christ Jesus, because that's the only hope
there is.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Amen. Amen, Amen, all right,
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