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August 25, 2025 44 mins
Super Model turned into a SERIAL KILLER. - The Sheila Labarre Murders 
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Burning in the flames of her homemade crematorium, the remains
of yet another man murdered at the hands of a
serial killer.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
He wasn't just a statistic He was somebody's son.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
He was mine. Sheila Labarre liked to be in control.
She used her body to get what she wanted men
mere morsels to catch, using rather obvious seductions.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
People around tow gave her a nickname. They called her
Sheila the Peeler. They were always hoping that she would
flash a little this or show a little bit of that.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
As investigators tried to uncover the layers of Shila Labarre,
they were trying to get inside the mind of a
serial killer.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
She was able to suck those men in, almost like
a spider in a spider web, bringing them into their
cave where she eventually would kill them.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Sheila Leaba's seductions were not about sex. They were about
taking lives before hiding the evidence.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
This is a.

Speaker 6 (01:40):
Story that begins with the discovery of bones in a
burning pile on a remote farm.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
They were human bones, and they were male. An investigation
into who and why they were being disposed of in
such a do it yourself way followed their discovery, the
picture exposed revealed a RaSE species in the grisly portrait
gallery of serial killers, a woman called Shila Labarre, who
ran a farm. One day sold at auction, attending a

(02:13):
mother who had warned many times that it was here,
her son was tortured.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
His face was all cut up, his hands were all
cut up. One of the one was immorbile. His hair
was down, he was ashen color. He was all cut up,
and he was in a wheelchair and he couldn't work.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Drawing on first person testimonies from those whose lives intersected
the Shila Labar, Linda Poppadopoulos has been on a journey
of exploration inside the mind of a serial killer, a
journey which begins with understanding how Sheila would choose a victim.
It would always be a man, and he would be vulnerable.

Speaker 7 (02:53):
I think Kenneth County was particularly vulnerable because he actually
had learning difficulties. And what we know is that invites
him to come and live with her, but effectively ends
up keeping him like a slave.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I said, did she hurt my son? Did she hurt
my son? Please tell me did she hurt my son?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
What brushstrokes A needed to make up the complete picture
of Sheila La bah not good Ones. Then known as
Sheila Kay Bailey, she grew up in a tiny milk
community in Alabama. The first not so subtle clues as
to her behavior later in life come from those early days.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Sheila's childhood was very troubled. Her older sister says that
Sheila was the subject of abuse from her father and
from other men.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Kevin Flynn knows Sheila well. He spent hundreds of hours
with her researching her life story. Sheila's timeline is populated
by horror stories filled with monsters.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
One evening, Sheila's father comes home drunk, and he's rummaging
around in the refrigerator and throwing everything on the floor,
and he's in a very foul mood, and he turns
his attention to his wife and his two youngest daughters.
They decide that they're going to flee the house. They're

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running towards the cornfields near the back of their property.
Their angry father picks up a can of paint and
throws it at them, and it hits Sheila in the head,
causing a bleeding.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Her suffering escalated. Sheila was a victim of monsterus abuse.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
She was passed around as a toy. She was an
object for her father for his friends. She was abused mentally,
she was abused physically and most of all abuse.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
By the time she had reached at Sheila appeared happy enough,
but she left as an escape route from the abusive home.
From small town America.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Sheila has big dreams. She wants to move out of
this little town. She wants to become either a model
or a country music singer. And so she's looking for
a way to get out of her life. And one
of the ways that many girls do that in a
small town is to marry a guy. And so she
got her hooks into a guy by the name of

(05:30):
John Baxter. John was alignment for utility, had a good job,
but he was divorced.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
John Bexter had a four year old daughter called Wendy.
She was about to discover what it meant to have
an abused, mixed up stepmother for a cara.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Sheilo not the most maternal person. Wendy told her father
that when he would go to work, Sheila would put
Wendy in the closet, and it was also then that
Sheila would take care of her by making her drink
something brandy, maybe it's cough syrup, something that made her

(06:06):
feel very sleepy, and this was her way of taking
care of the daughter throughout the day. Essentially, she didn't
want to deal with her.

Speaker 7 (06:14):
Maybe it's a case of the abused becoming the abuser.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
That kind of treatment did not sit well with John
when he found out that that's what Sheila was doing,
he basically said, you're out of here. So that was
a pretty quick relationship, I believe. I believe they got
married on New Year's Eve and by Valentine's Day they
were divorced.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
She became older, became bitter, vengeful, brooding. Sheila sialized herself
to leumen into her spider's web.

Speaker 7 (06:50):
And I feel that part of this would have led
her to see men as perhaps just valuing her for
the way that she looked. And so perhaps what we're
seeing here is her trying to take back control of
that objectification and use it for her benefit.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
And whilst it was to her benefit to have a
man close by, that's what she arranged. A series of
them came and went. What was it like to be
her partner? A man called Ronnie Jennings was to discover
how violent she could be. At first, he had fallen
for her physical charms.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
She basically wants to be loved. She wants to have
a normal life. She thinks that Ronnie can provide that.
But they're not really clicking. They're not really getting along.
She takes out her frustrations on Ronnie and she's abusive
to him.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
No longer was she going to be the victim. She
wanted to make sure that the people she was involved
in a relationship that she had utter complete, one hundred
percent control, much like her father had complete control over her.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
It was early days in the development of what Sheila
would become controlled by being physically abusive. Ronnie would lazy
give evidence that he was concerned she'd attack him whilst
he slept. The threat of violence was never very far away.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
He decides that he doesn't want to be in the
relationship anymore. This crushes Sheila.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
And she responds in dramatic fashion.

Speaker 7 (08:18):
We know that she has a suicide attempt.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Sheila takes a handful of pills in front of Ronnie
and gets in the car, drives away, gets into an accident.
Sheila is nearly killed from the crash, and the overdosed.
What was interesting about this incident is that while Sheila
was in the hospital, she had gone into a coma

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and recovered, But when she came back, she told everybody
that she had died and gone to heaven and God
had sent her back as an avenging angel. And this
was the persona that she carried with her throughout the
rest of her.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
By nineteen eighty six, the psychological makeup of Sheila kay
Bailey was in place an abused child who had become
an abuser, a controlling woman who could be violent to men.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
So when you take her childhood experiences and now that
she's an adult, is she now a hater of men?

Speaker 1 (09:21):
In her late twenties, the Avenging Angel comes across an
advert placed by a man thirteen hundred miles away in Epping,
New Hampshire. A successful chiropractor, he also had twelve hundred
acres of upscale prime land.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
He was a widower. He lived on a horse farm
in rural New Hampshire. He was very lonely after losing
his wife in wanted companionship.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Wilfred Lebar, known in his local community as a kindly man,
lost his wife in nineteen eighty five on coming across
the advert in nineteen eighty seven, Sheila sees a chance
for a new life. The aspiring model doesn't want to
miss out on this opportunity. She plans away to get
the job of companion to old men.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
And she knew how to answer that ad. She just
didn't write and say what she was looking for in
a man long romantic walks on a beach. She got
right down to the point. She bared her breast, She
exposed herself, sent photos of herself in very sensual positions,
and she got a response.

Speaker 7 (10:26):
She just doesn't send a message saying hey, I'm interested,
she sends it with topless photos. She's very quickly cottoned
on to the fact that if she wants to get
Lebar's attention, she needs to size this interaction as much
as possible.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Well, he felt pretty hard for her. Sheila immediately got
on a plane and began dating Wilfrid Lebar, and she
insinuated herself into his life almost immediately.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Soon she that takes the name of the matcha older man.
There is no marriage, but Sheila kay Bailey is a
thing of the past. The world and Wilfred Lebar are
introduced to Sila Labar, and she won't be playing the
role of the compliant wife anytime soon.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
Sheila was now engaged in a relationship with somebody that
could very well at least be the age of her father.
And she's this beautiful woman at the time, and she's
able to manipulate and control because the older man is
looking at Sheila. This is one of life's bonuses. How
could somebody like himself get this beautiful young woman? And

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so she used that. That was Sheila's web. She was
able to suck him in and eventually use that to
her advantage.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
She started to take over his chiropractic business. She became
the office manager and basically ran off all of the
other employees that were you know who could see through her,
she said, separated doctor Lebar from his grown kids. Basically,
she worked to isolate doctor Lebar and to take over

(12:09):
his life and his property.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
To get that level of control, she had used her mussy.
Soon she would use abuse.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Shila was violent with doctor Lebar. There were times where
to get away from her, to let her cool off,
Doctor Lebar would leave his own house and he would
walk almost a mile to the next neighbor's house and
crash on their couch because he just didn't want to
be around Shila that night.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
How extreme would the Avenging Angel take her violence? How
wicked were her intentions? Between nineteen eighty six and two
thousand and three, Shiela Lebar insinuated herself into the life

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of a man who had been a successful businessman and
capable father. The relationship lasts, but as a price to
Wilfrid Lebarre.

Speaker 7 (13:09):
This is a woman who's in total command. For seventeen years,
she rules Wilfrid Labarre's life.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
This is all part of a larger scheme of Sheila's,
which was to separate doctor lebar from his children and
to take control over his life financially, emotionally, physically.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Sheila had it all run of the farm, control over
the business, and soon who is going to get Walter
from his estate.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
She convinces him to give her power of attorney to
sign over property, and he does because he doesn't want
to lose her. He perhaps maybe doesn't feel worthy to
have somebody at the time as beautiful as Sheila, but
she's able to use what she believes is her beauty
and charm to con convince him to basically sign over everything.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Was she contoni Wilfrid Florentin hessiety using it to manipulate. Indeed,
she had quite a reputation in epping people around tow
gave her a nickname. They called her Sheila the Peeler.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
She would often be in very scantly dressed clothes and
sometimes just drop it and bear it all well.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
She had no problem coming to the door for delivery
men wearing almost nothing. It got to the point where
it was sort of it was sort of anticipated, and
you know, it was expected that she would be very
provocative and you know, try to stir things up. She

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definitely used her womanly ways to get what she wanted.
Sheila is always thinking about how she can manipulate men
to get what she wants.

Speaker 7 (14:54):
I think we live in a world that objectifies women,
that sass women, and I think in her case, clearly
this was something that she saw as a tool, as
a tool that she wanted to use for her benefit
rather than having it used against her.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Whilst living with Wilfrid, Sheila, bizarrely because he doesn't deject,
decides to marry, but not Wilfrid. She comes across adrift
down on his look a vulnerable man.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
His name was Wayne Ennis. He was a migrant farm
worker and Sheila just fell for him. And what was
so strange is that Sheila brings Wayne Ennis to the
horse farm and the three of them, now Doctor Lebar,
Sheila and her new husband Wayne are all living together
on this farm.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
According to Wayne Ennis, when later tucked down by police
eighteen months after marrying Sheila, she proposed something radical to
make their lives a little more comfortable.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
She's intimating to Wayne Ennis that he needs to do
something to hasten doctor Lebarre's death. Wayne is very troubled
by this, so he goes to doctor Lebar and tells
him what Sheila is planning, and he's fearful as well
for his own safety. Doctor lebar then drove Wayne to
a bus station, got him on a bus, and he

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got out of town and Sheila never saw him again.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
In the year two thousand, Wilfred Labar died.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Sheila told doctor Lebar's family that just one day it
had had a heart attack and died on the kitchen floor,
and she insisted that he becremated. It wasn't until later
that people thought that this was suspicious. At the time,
nobody thought much about doctor Lebar's death that it was

(16:45):
anything other than natural causes.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Sheila Kay Bailey, the abused, penniless, aspiring model of old Alabama,
is ancient history as the new millennium begins. Sila Lebar
is a prote'd woman whose appetite for men is still
alive and well, especially if they're easy to abuse.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
She went from being the victim to being the predator,
to identifying those who are vulnerable, whether by age or
by mental capacity, or because of their own relationships with
their own family, and she chose her victims wisely as
far as being vulnerable.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
She lives one after another, always being violent towards them,
eventually meeting this man, Michael Deluge.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Michael Delou's is sort of a lost soul. He sees
himself as a songwriter, as a poet. He had been
married and had a kid, but that relationship fell apart.
He got into drugs and alcohol, and he found himself
many miles from home in a homeless shelter in Portsmouth,

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New Hampshire. He was separated from his family, and it
was Sheila who came along and found him the prospect
of staying in a homeless shelter or going with this
woman to a farm where he could get a nice
worn bed and a steady job and sex. Well, that's

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a very easy decision to make.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
It was around now that Chila began to go to
tactic taping conversations.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Sheila has an interesting habit of recording her telephone calls
and her conversation.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
The recordings would be used by her to control whichever
men she lured to the farm. She would force them
to make false confessions to agree that they'd been abused
as a child. Mike was the first to suffer what
would be described later as brainwashing.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Sheila convinces Mike that growing up he was abused and
that he is a papile. Now the family says, no,
no way. This isn't. The people that he is saying
that he abused were never abused. Where is he getting

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this idea? Sheila is telling him this. Sheila is preventing
him from calling his family.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Almost a brainwashing technique, you isolate someone and you can
have vast influence over that person. So she would isolate
the people she had relationships with, keep them away from
others in society.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
She's also poisoning the relationship and getting into his head
until he believes it. He actually believes that he is
a child molester because she has told him that so
many times.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
So therefore she would have that ultimate control, much like
a puppet master.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
The puppet master had Michael Deloweze dancing to her tune.
There were regular sightings of him over the two years
that he was known to be on the phone, but
one day he was seen in troubling circumstances.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
The neighbors describe an incident where coming down the wooden
path from the horse farm, they saw a man stumbling
and bleeding from the head. It was Michael Deloge, and
he just walked right past a neighbor and said one word, Sheila.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Michael Delge would never be seen alive again. In two
thousand and six, Shila Labar was living on the farm alone.
The men she had preyed on had displayed one kind
of vulnerability or other. They were much older, homeless drifters

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down on their love. Next in line was Kenneth County,
a young man with development difficulties.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
When it came time for sports, Kenny eastern, but he
had problems with his friends because he didn't speak properly,
so they were teasing and taunt them, and that's how
that's how it was.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
At twenty four years old, Kenny had the mental capacity
of a twelve year old. In February of that year,
depressed at failing to be admitted into the army after
training camp, he tried to kill himself.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
At that time, Kenny took some pills and they took
him to the hospital. They called me. I went to
the hospital and they had guards, police guards watching over Kenny,
and I just shook my head and I said why.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Kenny recovered. Though she was unaware at the time, it
is after the suicide attempt that his mother, Karenine, believes
Kenny came across Shila Lebar.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I was told at the time they met on a
chat line. Come to find out when I found out
on court it was a sex chat line. And Kenny
wanted to be like anybody else. He wanted to be loved,
he wanted to be accepted, and Sheila searched for those
that had problems, and she could tell that Kenny had

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problems in his speaking, in his thinking, and that's how
she went after him on a sex chat line.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
She was using telephone dating services where you would leave
a message in somebody's voicemail box, and Sheila had a
habit of screening the calls, and if the man sounded confident,
if he sounded like he really had it all together,
she would delete those messages. If the guy sounded meek,
if he sounded like he might not be of high intelligence,

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if he sounded like he was somebody that she could manipulate,
she kept those messages and contacted those guys.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
One of those she followed up with was Kenny County.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Kenny met her on February fourteenth. They met at a
bar Valentine's Day in New Hampshire. It was a big
age gap. He was only twenty four, she was in
her forty forty seven.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
They have a few drinks and they moved from the
bar to the backseat of Sheila's car, where they have sex.
A few days later, Kenny goes to his roommate and says,
I'm moving now. I'm moving to New Hampshire to live
on this horse farm with my new girlfriend. And that

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was the beginning of the end for Kenny.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Kenny excitedly told his news to older brother Brian.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
So Kenny says, oh, by the way, I have a girlfriend.
So Brian says, you do and he said yep. He said,
I met her on at Valentine's Day. We went out
to eat. We went out be four, he said, and
she has she's very she has a big farm, she
has a beautiful car, and she's forty seven years old.

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So Brian looked and he said what he said, Kenny, No,
you don't want to be with a forty seven year old.
This ulterior motive said no, no, And Kenny looked and
he said no. He said, you know she loves me
and I love her. And my son, Brian said, you

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just met her, and so Brian Kenny said, whatever you do,
don't tell mommy. Don't tell mommy. And he said, yo,
my brother, be my brother. Do not tell mommy because
she'll come looking for me.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
So Brian never told me.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
When at the farm, Sheila begins to isolate Kenny from
his mother.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Sheilla is doing the same pattern as she had for
all the other men she'll against by trying to cut
Kenny off from his family.

Speaker 7 (25:04):
So I think what you have here is a man
with cognitive deficits. So he wasn't able or he didn't
feel entitled to escape, and a woman who clearly is
very capable when it comes to controlling men.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Carolyn, fearful for her son, calls him night and day.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I call the Eppin police.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
When Kenny is not returning mom's phone calls. That's a
red flag. Kenny's mom has to find out, you know,
what is going on? Is he okay? So she contacted
the police in Epping, New Hampshire, and.

Speaker 7 (25:45):
So she'll call up the police and she'll say, listen,
my son is staying with this woman and this woman
is abusing him. You need to help him.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
So the patrolmen go to Shield's farm and they knock
on the door and they say, we want to talk
to Kenny.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Like that because of the fact that I sent the
police to her house for a longness well being Jack.

Speaker 7 (26:07):
But when the police try and follow up on this
and they go to speak to him, both Sheila and
Kenneth actually said, I don't know. I don't know what
that woman's talking about it, I don't know what my
mother's talking about.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
I'm fine.

Speaker 7 (26:17):
I want to be here. I'm a grown man and
i want to be here. So it's never actually acted upon.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Sheila had the throne of Epping. What Chilla said went
she'd be able to say anything to the police. They
didn't want to deal with her, so they just back down.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
As with Deluge, labar tape records staged conversations with Kenny.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
At one point, she had over three hundred cassette tapes
of things her on the telephone. Some of it's pretty innocuous,
some of it is, you know, rather disturbing.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
She had tapes of Kenny accusing his mother of molesting him,
and also, as with Michael Deluge, of Kenny confessing to
being a pig pile. Nothing on tape was true.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
She probably had a gun to his head, don't know,
but she had him saying all these horrible things about me,
that I and when he was a baby, that I
continue to do that It was just horrendo us and

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Kenny was telling Sheila all these things and she was very,
very rapid, and she was very nasty, and I was
I was dumbfounded. She did all the talk and his
voice became yes, no, and it was very robotic. When
I heard that tape, I don't want to see him anymore.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
I don't want to talk to him.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Because it was just so it was horrible. It was
horrible and that's Sheila.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
When Carolyn calls the police about her son, she discovers
that Sheila has also played a recording of Kenny's voice
to the police.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
And what the officer heard was Sheila berating Kenny and
getting him to confess that he was a child merger
and that he had a kids. And on the tape,
the officer could hear Kenny becoming weaker, and at one
point he heard Kenny vomit, and then he thought he

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heard Kenny faint because Sheila was saying, get up. You
can't fake fainting. So Sheila made this tape as a confession.
For some reason, it seemed to be a proactive move
because she had something in mind for Kenny and she
wanted to cover her tracks.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
The police did not respond to the complaints made by
count and all those made with an accompanying tape by
Shila Laba. Kenny was an adult, they said, and anyway,
they'd seen it all before. Men came and went from
the farm many times.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
They said she would take young mentor her farm and
they'd work the farm. And then she called the police
department to say that they left. Well, I found that
pretty bizarre, and I said, well, how do you know
they left? How do you know she didn't hurt them?

Speaker 5 (29:15):
She could have killed them?

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Did she kill them? And then he started off and
he said no, no, that's not Chillo's m a. And
I said, did you ever go there to check to
make sure that they were okay? Detective Cody said no,
there was no reason. And I said, she could to
kill my son.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Carolyn County had become fearful for her son's life. It's
worth reiterating in the story of Shila Labar that the
Epping police were aware that men regularly appeared then disappeared
from her life. As regards Kenny, there were soon signs
that he was being abused. He was next seen in
public when out shopping, and he looked awful.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Chila took Kenny to Walmart and he was unable to
walk through the aisles himself. She was pushing him in
a wheelchair. His face was a weird color, and he
had bruises and cuts and burns. And the thing that
she was buying were diesel fuel cans, and she made

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Kenny hold these fuel cans as she shopped. So there's Kenny.
He's slumped down, he's not really responsive.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
He was sponsored by a police officer photographed host Are
you okay?

Speaker 2 (30:33):
They asked Kenny if he was all right. His head
was hanging, he was droown, and she told him to
shut the f up. At that point the police should
have taken him.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
They didn't, despite the fact that he looked like he
was in distress. There was nothing for the officers to do.
He wasn't a minor. They couldn't take him into protective custody.
All they could do was watch she'la push him out
the door the.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Escortter out of Walmart. They watched her take him to
the car and lift him from the wheelchair into the car.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Why had she bought so much diesel fuel when spotted
with Kenny at the local store? How much danger was
Kenny County in whilst down on the farm with Sheila Lebar.

(31:35):
Carolyn County did not give up on her son Kenny,
as he failed to return her calls. In fact, she
contacted the police and apping repeatedly.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I'm putting on a second missing persons report.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I want you to go to the house.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
The detectives, after being pushed, they go out to speak
to Sheila and they want to know about Kenneth where
is he? When was the last time he was saying?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
And when they got there, Sheila was not home. So
they walked around a little bit and they found a
burn barrel. There was a fire going inside, so they
went over and took a look and signed.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
They don't like what they see and what.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
They found in there was a human bone and on
the knob of the bone was some human flesh. So
now they are very worried about what has happened to
Kenneth County.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
The offices make no rest. There's no enough evidence.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
You can't just turn around and right away arrest somebody
for a fire. There has to be tests that are done.
Are these possibly human bones?

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Sheila returns home and she's angry that the cops are
there on the property, but she lets them come into
the house and see that Kenny is not there.

Speaker 7 (32:56):
Imagine what that says about her. Imagine what that says
about her sense of being able to manipulate, to control perceptions,
about her sense of intelligence, her sense of control over
the situation that she will actually invite people to investigate
a case that could lead directly to her.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Investigators think they see what could be blood on the walls.
They also find Kenny's shoes, and they find it kind
of odd that he would leave without his shoes, but
they have no warrant to be there, they can't take
any evidence. They decide we're going to come back and
get to the bottom of this.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Detectives return two days later and go back to the
scene the sneakers they had seen and LaVar's home had gone.
When asked, Sheila confesses to burning them. They returned to
the fire. The bones which appeared to be human have
largely disappeared, but some bone chards remain and ascend to
a forensic team for analysis.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
So now analyzing and sending those bones off looking at
those pieces of evidence. That process is now taking place,
and it's probably now at the point where the detectives
are no longer treating this as a missing person case.
Where is Kenneth? They're thinking to themselves, what happened to.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Them inside the house? Please carry out a detailed forensic
investigation using specialized blood detection devices. They are shocked by
what they see. Though attempts have been made to clean surfaces,
there is widespread evidence of human blood on furniture and
on wood.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
An indication that there was an extremely large amount of
violence that took place inside that room. Nobody can question
the physical evidence that was there at that scene. It
was close enough and enough probable cause to now go
and arrest Sheila.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
They asked her point blank, where is Kenny, And she
pointed to a plastic bag filled with soot and bones,
and she said, he's in there.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Later a detective would describe what he saw to Karen
in County.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
I just want you to know that we found a
bone and as he put it, it was too big
for a rabbit. And that was my song. That was
my son.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Sheila did a lot to obfuscate the evidence that she had.
She took bits of bone and teeth and smashed the
teeth so that they couldn't be used for identification. She
had dismembered the body. She burned it, and because of
the charing, they could tell that it had burned it
different temperatures. She had been burning and churning the bones

(35:59):
during the start for Kenny and for other evidence. On
the farm, they flushed out the septic tank and it
was there that they found some new evidence. But it
was the driver's license of Michael Deloge, and this let
investigators think they may be looking for more than one body.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
The wallet and idea of Michael Deloche. I'd wonder, first
of all, where now is this person named Michael? Who
is Michael?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Michael Deloge. Michael had simply vanished from Epping, last spotted
at Sheila's home. Lamar's story of life and deaths began
to unravel. Sheila, not in custody, knows that she's getting
closer and closer to being charged with murder, and she
isn't going just to wait and let it happen. She
flees the state.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
She needs to go someplace else, but they just don't
want to let her out of her sight. So state
police have some detective tail her. But Sheila's pretty savvy
and she's able to get away, and she has a
plan on where she's going. She withdraws a lot of money.
She starts going by an alias. She calls herself Casey,

(37:13):
which is actually her middle name, and she decides that
she's going to get her hair colored differently and that
she's going to go on the run. She sneaks out
of the hotel that she's staying and wanders to the
interstate and starts hitchhiking, and a man picks her up.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
The man called Steve has no idea that he's taking
a wounded woman as of the state.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
So Steve picks her up in his car and after
having some breakfast together, they continue down to Boston and
she gets a hotel room with him and the two
of them have sex and then he leaves and it
isn't until he sees the news that Sheila is a

(37:55):
wanted woman that he realizes who he had picked up.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Before too long, Sheila moves on to another man to
help her avoid detection.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
While Sheila is hiding out in Boston with police all
over New England looking for her, she's holed up with
the guy by the name of Kenneth Washington. He just
met around the street. She came on to him and
she was able to crash at his place, and when
Kenneth Washington sees Sheila's face on the TV news, he

(38:29):
realizes who he has led into his home and he
calls the police and essentially sets up her capture.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
In March two thousand and six, Shila Lebar is finally arrested.
Two years later, her trial for murder begins and the
case turns on what's been going on inside the mind
of Sheila Lebar.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
The defensive strategy was not to argue that Sheila was
the killer of Michael Deloge or Kenneth County. What they
did was argue that Shila was insane.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Sheila tells the story of what she did with Kenneth
and Michael in the hopes that she's going to try
to claim insanity.

Speaker 7 (39:19):
Initially, she pleads guilty, and then she Reexaizlesa's actually no
guilty because I'm insane for reason of insanity.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
In order to claim insanity, you have to, at the
time of the offense be able to prove, and the
burden is on the defense in this case Sheila that
they didn't know what they did was wrong. Why this
story would unravel with Sheila is because of the amount
of planning that went into her murders and the cover up.

(39:48):
Somebody who's crazy isn't going to try to burn evidence.
Somebody who's crazy isn't going to try to cover up
the amount of blood that was inside the house. Somebody
who is crazy isn't going to make methodically pick the
most vulnerable of victims.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
After several months of testimony, the jury eventually finds that
Sheila was sane at the time of the killing.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Hilda Lebar is found guilty of the murders of both
Michael Delays and Kenny County. She eventually confessed, but whether others?
What about the men that came and went on the
farm that nobody saw? Ever again, suddenly other gruesome evidence
was discovered.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
This is one hundred acres of pasture and forest and
this ended up being the biggest police search in state history.
They patrolled as much of it as they could looking
for any evidence of a crime, maybe a bones, that
are the remains that have been scattered someplace, you know.
They couldn't find anything except a pair of human toes.

(40:58):
You know. One of the things later about the human
toes was that they didn't belong to Kenny and they
didn't belong to Michael Deloge. So who is it?

Speaker 1 (41:12):
It's worth underlining human bones found on the farm were
not those of the two men that Sheila Labar have
been convicted of killing.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
We don't know how many victims are truly out there
that may have come across the pass of Shila.

Speaker 7 (41:27):
On this farmhouse. Turns out that Sheila killed twice, possibly
three times.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
We don't know how many victims that are out there
that Sheila actually was able to suck into her web.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
We know that Michael Deloge was killed, we know that
Kenneth County was killed. But what about some of those
other guys that were spotted going to the farm but
were never seen leaving it. It's hard to say.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
So somewhere out there there's probably another missing person, somebody
that was one of society's vulnerable people.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Sheila Levarre had suffered an abusive childhood at the hands
of men, including her father. She grew to become a
woman who men found attractive, but her outward appearance did
not speak to what was going on inside Sheila's mind.
Her looks were simply a way of giving her control
forgetting what she wanted.

Speaker 7 (42:24):
So she's good at manipulating people. So someone asks for
a companion, she sends sexy photos.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
She's able to move in.

Speaker 7 (42:31):
She's able to kind of keep somebody under her control
to the point that everything that he has is left
to her. Then later on she has someone else moveing,
someone whose mother is so concerned that she's calling the police.
Yet she's able to say to his mom, do you
know what he's under my control now?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Labar was given two life sentences. She will never be released.
Wilfrid Labar's life was never the same after he allowed
Sheila into it. Michael Deluzie's life was taken by her
Kenny Counties too.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
She looked at him as somebody that society wouldn't miss.
She didn't count on that mother's love.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
How she could have taken a human life and do
what she did to him.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
And laugh at her.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
He was somebody's child.

Speaker 5 (43:19):
He was my child.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
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