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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hello you guys, Welcome back to another episode of the
Hawkerel Energy Podcast. I'm your host, Kaylee, and this is
your weekly reminder that it's a new day, a new week,
a new mindset, and another day if you become the
howtral energy you want to attract. Hello you guys, Happy Wednesday,
Welcome back to another episode. I hope you guys had
a great week last week. If you're from Canada or

(00:35):
if you're from the States, I hope you guys had
a great long weekend for your Fourth of July or
Canada Day. I ended up taking last week off because
of that, just with Canada Day and all that, I
decided to just kind of give myself a week off
from filming and just the podcast. And honestly, even if
I did decide to record an episode, it wouldn't have
been uploaded till the Friday, and I knew a lot

(00:56):
of you guys would be doing something for the Fourth
of July, so I decided to just honestly have the
week off. And now we're going into this week with
a new month. We have entered July, which is so exciting.
So we thought for the first week of July it
would be perfect to do another Sip and Spell episode
because we haven't done one in a while.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
So I have my sister here. Hello, she's back.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
We're ready to do some questions and advice here because
we recently shared on our Instagram story a question box
to do some questions and advice that just might be
things that you guys are going through currently, whether it's
career advice or dating advice, or you know, friendship advice,
anything like that. So we figured we'd just answer any

(01:36):
of your questions that you guys might have and just
give our honest advice of what we think you should
do to maybe get yourself out of that difficult spot
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
The case may be.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
So we did a question box. We got I don't
know how many questions as we get. We got like
we've got a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
We got a lot. I think we got like fifty
to sixty questions.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Definitely, I won't be able to go through all of that.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, we're going to try and go through as much
as we can. But thank you guys so much first
off for submitting all your questions, and we'll definitely do
something like this again, I think in the future because
we had such a positive feedback with just the amount
of questions that you guys wanted to ask. So I
think we're going to kind of just like go through
each section of like, Okay, we had a few questions

(02:17):
about career advice, we had a few questions about friendship advice,
life in general all that. So we'll just kind of
answer as we go along. But first off, I just
kind of want to talk about last week with Canada Day.
I spent my long weekend at a cottage, which was
so nice. I feel like that long weekend. I always say,
whenever there's a long weekend, oh, it's the kickoff of summer.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
It's a kickoff of summer.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
But I feel like the first weekend in July. I
don't know if you can agreaet Madison, but I feel
like the first weekend in July is literally the case
this summer.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I feel like summer until Canada Day.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, fine, I feel like that too.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Like May sure gets too excited about warm weather and
all that, but the weather's always a hit and miss
on the May long weekend June obviously it's nicer, but
it's not really there's I don't think there's a long thing.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Again.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Well, we also had like a really weird June, Like
it was weird weather.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Cold, yeah, some days hot, other days yeah, I agree,
sat wave like yeah, lots of rain. Like, just a
really weird month in general.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Same with May too.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I think May and June wasn't really the best at
least for us here for weatherwise. But July has been
really good, and I just feel like, well, not today,
not today, but the first other few days have been
really good.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
We've had some really good days.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, so far July has been good. End of June
was pretty good. Beginning of June wasn't that good. But
now that it's like the first long weekend of July,
last weekend, I feel like that was like the kickoff
to summer. Being by the water obviously was like such
a nice thing to do, being on a boat chilling
with friends. I also feel like I haven't seen my
friends in forever, which I've talked about in the past,
just because like I feel like we're all so busy

(03:48):
with life that we've been having a hard time making
time for each other. So the fact that we were
all able to be present and be together on that
weekend was something that I think was really memorable and
something that we got to cherish together. And I think
that's a weekend that we all look forward to because
we all know that we'll get together on that weekend
and spend time together. So all in all, it just
was a really great start to the month and we

(04:08):
had a really fun time just being by the cottage.
Freddy came and enjoyed the water. Freddy's a cottage dog,
and he's a completely different dog at the cottage. I
can't even describe what kind of dog he is because
he's so different. He's going in the water, he's rolling
around in the sand, whereas like when he's here, he's
terrified of the pool.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
He just like he likes me outside. But it's just
such a different dog. I don't know how to explain it.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
But it's really fun seeing him like on a different
side when he's at the cottage and such.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
But anyways, that was my long weekend. Do you want
to give updates on your long weekend?

Speaker 3 (04:40):
So yeah, for my long weekend.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
So Kaylie actually went to a cottage the weekend of
Canada Day, where I kind of stayed home. We did
like a little pool party with all my friends at
one of my friend's house.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
It was so fun.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Normally I'm the same where I like to be by
a cottage and on the lake, but for the times
that I can't, it was really really fun that, you know,
we got to just kind of get together and have
a pool party. We played corn hole, we played spike ball,
and we did fireworks at night.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
It was just so fun. It was so so fun.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
And then I ended up going to my boyfriend's cottage
this past weekend.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
So I just got back yesterday.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Actually, so you got your cottage fix.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah, I got my cottage fixed in the weekend after
and yeah, pretty much like Kaylee said, just being by
the water was so nice.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
We went on the boat, we went on the sea duke.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
There's something about a cottage, I have to be honest.
It just like that's when summer has just like fully
supped in. Like being by the water is just something nice.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Watching the sunsets also like the best. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
I literally spent the entire morning yesterday because it was
such a beautiful day. I spent the entire morning. I
picked up a chair, put it on the dock, and
I just sat and looked at the water. My boyfriend's like,
what are you doing? And I'm like I'm just bracing,
Like I just love being by the water by the lake,
like I was watching the boats go by.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I want kids too, Bang.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I wonder it was just because peaceful, Like I wonder
if we feel that way because we never grew up
by a cottage. So for us, we like really cherish
those moments, whereas if you grew up like with the
cottage or on the water, I feel like you're used
to that, so you might not just be like, oh,
it's just like another typical night by the cottage, right,
So for us, like my parents had the decision of
either getting a pool in the backyard or getting a
second property as a cottage, and they decided to get

(06:31):
the pool, which we obviously love going in the pool
and having that, but I think we kind of missed
out on the cottage face.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
So for us, like whenever we do go to a cottage,
I think we.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Just like fully, I get so like, I don't know,
I love it too, Like I think it's just such
a fun thing to do. And now we want to
buy a cottage for our future kids, Like we're talking
about doing that with my parents, of just owning a
family cottage and being able to have our kids go
up and all that, just because we didn't get to
experience that, so we want our kids to be able
to experience it.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, And it's just like I feel like summer doesn't feel.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Like summer unless you're out of cottage.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
That's just yeah, or like camping or just by and
by water. Yeah, I agree, being by the water in
the summer definitely.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Definitely.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
It makes me excited for the future of like our kids, Yeah,
you know, us going all to the cottage together and
having that shared second.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
I think also so many people talk about like mon
Talk and Nantucket and the Hampton's and just like seeing
that lifestyle everyone being by the water and like it's
in the summer.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's just like very peak of summer. Yes, the peak
of summer exactly.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
So one day I hope to visit those places and
have a little trip out to like mon Talk and yeah,
all that.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
I think that's definitely on my buckets trip.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah. Obviously Europe is super fun too, but like having
something like that is also like more like cottage core.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, yeah, East coast.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Summer kind of yeah, coastal summer, but.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Nova Scotia could be fun too in the summer. Like
here in Canada. I feel like that could be like
the Canadian version or like New Brunswick or Vancouver that.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
I've now found like a new like like want to
go to Nova Scotia.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
I think since watching We Were Liars.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I know, I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
I don't have this in my own country.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
I could not believe that that was filmed in Nova Scotia.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Crazy.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I'm sure you guys know that We Were Liars show
on Amazon Prime.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Literally, I'm obsessed with that show. The ending was so sad.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
We're not gonna give it away because Madison in the
last episode, but we found out later on that it
was a film in Nova Scotia and I was like
wow it yeah, same, and it's so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
It was like Nantucket, like yeah, it just.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Makes you realize how much like we should be appreciating
our own country.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
So not going like sidetracked.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I know, I know. So let's get into this episode.
Here's us like really just embracing summer.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
But hey, why we can't.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Get through all Yeah, this is because we spend eleven
minutes recording the intro.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Anyways, let's get into the freaking point of this episode.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Okay, So first off, we're going to talk about some
questions that you guys gave for friendship advice. We had
a few just about like long distance friendships, maybe friends
keeping secret things like that. So we're going to answer
some of the questions that you guys had. Okay, So
the first question was knowing when and how to let
go of people and outgrown friendships and things that no
longer serve you. Okay, So I've been through a few

(09:12):
different outgrown friendships. That was very Yeah, that was very
difficult for me because one friendship that I had, it
was a girl that I grew up with since I
was six years old, and it was really hard because
we were really really close the entire time through high school.
We played sports together, like same soccer team, same ragnette team.

(09:34):
Like I'm talking, attached to the hip. And then you know,
once we started to go to university in college, you know,
I feel like we all kind of start to become
not like our true self, but we do become a
bit of a different person.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I think you kind of figure out who you are
around that age.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I was like twenty one, twenty two, you know, I
just wasn't really into to be fully transparent.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I wasn't really into drugs or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Where this girl that I was hanging out with, she
was very much like in that environment, Like she loved
the party scene, she loved to do those kind of things,
and that just obviously we kind of became part we
grew apart because we weren't spending as much time together
because you know, she'd want to spend her weekends doing that,
where I would want to like do fun things like
go to the beach or like, you know, just spend

(10:18):
my time doing things that weren't about drugs and alcohol essentially, right,
So I think that's kind of how like we grew apart.
And in that moment, I'm trying to remember how it
felt to like lose a friend because obviously, like we
were so close for so many years.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
But I think it kind of made me realize that you.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Don't want to like force yourself to be with someone
in that environment, or you know, be friends with someone
that you guys don't have the same passion or the
same you know, things that you can relate on.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Like, I think it just made me.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Realize that we were growing apart, and that we were
growing into two different people and we had different you know,
hobbies and things that.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
We actually enjoyed.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
I also think, like to answer kind of the question
of like knowing when to let go, I think you
know when to let go when it almost feels like
you don't necessarily want to hang out with them, but
you think it's forced to because you're trying to keep
that friendship like that glue stick that glue together or whatever.

(11:16):
The saying is like, yeah, I was going to get
trying to like hold that friendship together. I think that's
when you know when it's yeah, it's and you don't
have to be so hard on yourself to just like
stop trying. Yeah, you know, Like I feel like that's
kind of an.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Indication of like, and to be honest, I think about
my own situation. I'm very good at like answering questions
when I related to something that actually happened to me.
So that's kind of like how I'm answering it this way,
and Madison's better at like kind of essentially explaining what
my situation is in like the answer format. But that
was the exact situation where I felt forced to make

(11:52):
plans with her because I'm like, Okay, well, I don't
want to lose this connection with this girl that I've
had forever, like, I'll make it work, We'll figure out
something that we can get in common with and all that,
and then eventually you realize that it's like, okay, if
I have to put this much effort into making it
last or making it work, and it's just not working.
Because even when we did hang out, it wasn't it

(12:13):
wasn't the same, it was different, and then it felt
it felt wrong and forced exactly, like it felt like,
why am I doing this to myself? I'd rather be
friends with someone when it's easy and it feels good
and that you guys are both that's how you supposed
to be and that's how it's supposed to be exactly.
That's the same if you think about relationships. It's the
same kind of way, right exactly.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
So I think that kind of you know, explain explains
knowing when I feel like that's a good indication.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I think it really needs to align your your hobbies
and align your passions. And if it doesn't align, then
and you guys are as you said.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Forcing is like the keyword.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
If you're trying to force something and it just feels
like you're forcing it, then it's not it's not going
to work out. So you need to just make sure
that when you're hanging out with your friends, it's easy
to make.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Plans with them.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
It's easy to know that you guys are both actually
enjoying your time together because you both wanted to do this.
You didn't want to, you know, have two different separate nights,
you know what I mean. Someone wants to have a
chill night, someone wants to go out. It's like, okay, well,
if the person's always wanting to go out and I'm
always wanting to chill, then it's eventually going to end
because you're realizing that you're not.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Both passionate about the same things.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
So I think that kind of solves the answer of
knowing when you know when the friendship is unfortunately coming
to an end and that it's a little bit out grown.
I guess, and I guess in terms of like how
to let go of these people, but I think you
need to have that. I think it's all about the mindset. Yeah,
I think it's all about realizing that if you if
you are realizing how much effort you have to put

(13:41):
into the friendship, then you have realized that you've outgrown
it and that it's time for you to step aside
and put more energy towards the people that are actually,
you know, wanting to do the same things as you
and wanting to actually spend time with you.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Right.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I think there also is a sign of, like, you know,
if the person's not reaching out to you and you're
making effort, there's way like if.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
If you feel, let's say that you're always the one
reaching out and trying to make these plans and even
though you feel forced to because it's kind of the
relationships outgrown, maybe you can kind of take a step back, yeah,
and put your energy either towards yourself or towards those
other friendships that actually serve you.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
That's kind of a way.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
It's all about the mindset, it's all about the.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Kind of taking a step back the best way to
go about it.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
The next question is how to survive long distance friendships
besties who live in different states and how so. I
have a girlfriend that does not live here, which you
guys know trend. She lives in Vancouver, which is literally
on the other side of Canada. When I say other side,
I'm talking the other side, like like five five hour flight,
like no way of driving there, and definitely find that

(14:51):
it's hard to obviously like not see her as much,
and like, of course, I think our dream would be
to live in the same city or the same even
the same province would have been nice because then at
least we'd be like somewhat driving distance from each other.
But I think how to survive a long distance friendship,
I think as long as you guys are both putting
in the effort to constantly create communication is so important,
Like FaceTime, facetiming, I say, time as much as we

(15:14):
probably FaceTime, I would say once every three weeks, we'll
reach out saying, hey, how are you?

Speaker 2 (15:19):
How are they? Catch up?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, literally plan a date. We'll be like, okay, when
do you want to FaceTime this week? Or when do
you want to FaceTime next week? Like, let's set a date, okay, Thursday,
this day, okay, perfect. We will dedicate like an hour
or two of our time and we will just literally
sit there and talk for hours and just catch up.
And that right there makes me feel good with the
friendship because I'm like, okay, we both have dedicated time
out of our day to hear about what's going on

(15:42):
with our life, you know, just having that mini catchup,
it just kind of proves to each other that we're
both putting in the effort in this long distance friendship
and we both want to continue our friendship. And that's
how we're making the effort by setting up those little
calls and content communication.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
You know, to follow up with that which you've done,
which is like setting up trips to.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Go see each other.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah right, Yeah, that's really really important. I think in
a long distance friendship is making sure you are still
making the effort to see each other on both ends,
like it obviously can't be one sided, you know, like
both making the effort to be like, oh, hey, like
you come see me or I come see you like
you know, so I think that is another.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Big thing to face thing for sure. Yeah, I definitely
want to do that with Trent. We've definitely have been
wanting to like book a little time together. Do you
have I don't know if we have long distance friend
to you, I don't have any like very very close
like Montreal, Like, well, yeah, I have some friends that
live like two hours away.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
I have some friends, like I have a few friends
in Toronto or in Montreal, that I've gone to visit.
I have one friend who I've gone to visit twice now.
I went for her birthday, did a little girl's trip
with my other friends to go see her in Montreal.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
One of the guys both make the effort, which is good,
like she'll come here for things'll.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
So she actually I went to Montreal for her birthday,
and then she came to Ottawa for my birthday and
specifically made the trip out to come for my birthday,
which was so sweet.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
So yeah, like I said, it's always got to be like.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Two sided, where you know, I wanted to go see
her just as much as she wanted to come see me.
One of my actual like best childhood friends maybe moving
to Vancouver, which.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
I'm like so depressed about it, yeah, which is so hard,
really hard.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
But I know, because we're just such good friends, I
know we're gonna make it work. And she's already like
talking about me coming to see her, like you know,
so I think just the way to survive it is
making those plans to see each other, you know, knowing
that it's like you have a set time of when
you're gonna see each other, right, like it's not forever

(17:51):
like you're never gonna not see each other again, like
as long as you have that plan, like oh, three
more weeks or whatever the time is until I get
to see them. And so making the time to have
those spacetime calls or phone calls h and always kind
of like checking in with each other I think is
the best way to.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Kind of survive a long distance friendship.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, okay, the next question is friendship is a big
thing for me, and I find it's hard to find
people that like my vibe. Okay, hear me out. This
is something that I could relate to so hard right now,
because I think as I've aged, I've obviously become like
very much still in the health and wellness space, like
love to go to my workout classes all that, and

(18:32):
I'm telling you right now, none of my friends, I
want to say none, Okay, maybe not none. I want
to say, like twenty percent of my friends do workout
classes as well, but it's not the same kind of
workouts that I like. So yeah, you know, they go
to the gym or they do like a lot of
heavy lifting, whereas for me, like I'm not really into that.
I'm more into like pilates, cardio, more lightweight workouts kind
of thing. So you know, the odd time will like

(18:53):
invite friends like, oh you should come do this with me,
like come try it out, whatever, And sometimes my friends
will come, sometimes.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
They don't whatever.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
So I had a really hard time because I feel
like when you obviously work out with friends, it makes
it a little bit more fun or like with your
sister or whatever, right, so and like less intimidating, Yeah,
who doesn't really, especially when you want to try new workouts.
It's you know, less intimidating to go with a friend
versus by yourself, and like going into a class that
you don't really know what to expect.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
So I have been going to plots now for almost
two years, and I've finally met friends through the class,
and now we literally arrange our workout classes to be
the same classes throughout the week, which is so fun.
So I was able to make friends within something that
I actually enjoy doing, which is Pilate's And now I've
found people who have the same but vibes me where

(19:41):
we can actually start arranging things around our schedules to
accommodate doing something fun together. So it makes you realize
that you can have friends for different things and different reasons,
like you.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Can still have friends who may not like the same things,
and you know, I think finding those things that you
like and doing those things, and you know, it's it's
always a little intimidating going to like a workout class
by yourself and then trying to talk to somebody. But
trust me, I'm sure whoever you may be, you may

(20:15):
see somebody you're like, oh, I really like her vibe.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
I feel like I could be friends with you.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Nine times out of ten they probably are in the
exact same boats.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
One hundred percent. So and let's be honest, like, you
can never have too many friends exactly. You need friends
for different reasons. Like think about you growing up. You
had friends with your sports, you had friends at high school,
you had friends maybe if you did dance, Like you
had friends for different reasons all the time. So as
you age and as you become an adult, you can
think of it in the same type of format where
it's like you have friends that you know, you've been

(20:44):
friends with forever, and you make the effort of doing hangouts,
you know, at nights and just chill time or walks
or workout classes, like it could all be for different things.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
So I think the moral of the.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Story is that you can never have too many friends,
and that if you've been wanting to find friends that
match your vibe and you want to make the effort
of making friends, it's all about talking to people seeing
if they fit your vibe. And yeah, even reaching out
on social media is also a great way of meeting
new friends or just like seeing if they fit your vibe.
Another topic that we got asked a lot about was

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career advice. So we're going to talk about some questions
here that we had about that. The first big question
that I think we got a lot of was how
did you decide your job after college. I'm a sophomore
and I'm a bit stressed about figuring out what you
want to do. First off, do not stress about being
finished school and trying to figure out your life right
after that, because I think everybody has this mindset where

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they need to figure their shit out the first year
after college. Oh my goodness, guys, please do not stress
that out because usually I would say, you're done college
and university. You're on like twenty three, twenty four. You're
still so young to not realize what you want to do.
If you're you know, going down the doctor route or
if you're going down the teacher route or whatever, like
you kind of had that vision of what you want

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to do, right, you know, like.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
The set plan, the pathway.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Of getting there and all that.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Whereas if you went to business like me, you could
really do anything. You could get into sales, you can
get into marketing, you can go down the accounting.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Route, like, there's so many things that you can do.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
So for me, when I think about myself, when I
just got out of college, I was so lost, like
I had.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
No idea what the fuck I was doing.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I'm not even never exaggerating, like I didn't even know
where to apply.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
I didn't even know what I.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Was going to Like, So I actually started working for
this health and wellness company, and I actually started to
work in all departments. Like I literally was thrown in
every type of situation, which I really liked and I
was very grateful for because it made me realize what.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
You know, I actually liked in what I didn't like.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Right, So, in the beginning, I was kind of doing
like the buyer sense, where I was actually purchasing products
from vendors to sell at the store. So I was
doing that for about six months. You know, it's kind
of fun to like online shop, yeah, online shop essentially,
and it's kind of like you feel like you're a
stylus in a way, right because like you're picking things,
you know, for certain collections like fall, summer all that.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
And it's not like I didn't like it.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
I just think what I didn't love is like a
corporate job in general. To be fully transparent, like I
didn't love sitting at a computer. Everyone, it's not for everyone.
I didn't love sitting at a computer for nine to five, Like,
I just it wasn't my obsession, Like I just I
didn't love it. And so I've always had this passion
for marketing. I would say, like I really have always

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loved creating videos, creating photos, editing, So you know, I
kind of had this mindset. I'm like, oh, hey, maybe
I'll be a graphic designer or maybe I'll own my
own business one day. I really had this vision of
owning my own business since I was like I don't know,
like twenty two.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Remember I wanted to start a bikini line one time.
Like I just have always had this motivation of starting
something on my on my own right.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
And then when social media became such a big thing,
I didn't think it was honestly going to be my career,
but I was like, you know what, I'm just going
to start.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Doing this and see what comes out of it.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
And then when I figured out that it could actually
be a career of mine, that's when I realized that,
oh crap, like this is what I want to do,
Like I want this to be my full time thing.
I love it. I feel like it's something that I'm
super passionate about.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
And just being able.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
To like film videos and do some marketing for brands
and being able to promote their products, like it just
felt like the right path. And I think that's also
a sign of when you start to realize what you're
good at and what feels you, then you become more
obsessed with your job and you actually like are motivated.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
To because never become a job anymore, no, exactly passion.
It's your passion.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
And then you just when you're when you love your
passion so much, you become very good at it and
then you just don't want to stop, like you like
you just become you become obsessed, and then you realize
that Okay, if you're obsessed with this, then you know
that this is what's going to bring you through the
right career path and such. So I think the moral
of the story is is that don't stress about not.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Knowing what you'd want to do. Just explore everything.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Try different things, you know, if you decided to go
down the business route in school, try to apply maybe
for different things, trying out different you know, sectors of
the business world, and then you kind of realize what
you enjoy and then that makes you realize what path
you need to go down. And again you might be
at two to three, maybe four different jobs within that timeframe, right, Like,

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don't say please, do not stay in a spot if
you're not enjoying it. Like, I really can't stress that enough.
I do think loving your job is something that allows
or to realize how much how important it is because
it really does like play out on how it affects you,
how your mental health is, and how you feel in general.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
So I feel like this is such a good question
for me to kind of touch on because this is
something I'm still figuring out, true because I just finished
my masters and I don't have my full time career
job yet. And I'm still figuring that out, and I've
had mental breakdowns.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Like you can ask Sally.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
I've gone to her and I've had a mental breakdown,
and I'm being the big sister saying it's okay, you're
going to figure it out. And I think that's like
the best advice I can give is to almost just
accept the fact that you're going to figure it out,
like just really focus on that and also kind of

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enjoy it. Like I feel like I've gotten a lot
of advice from my friends that I feel like has
really helped.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Where.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
You know, I've been in school since like back to back,
Like I never really took a break in between. Like
I went from straight from high school to my undergrad
and then pretty much right for my undergrad into my master's.
So I never really took a break, And so a
lot of my friends are like, just enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
I feel really blessed and lucky that I get.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
To kind of take this time to actually figure out, Okay,
what is it that.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
I want to do.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
And so I've been obviously job searching and applying to
all these jobs, and I think through that process it's
really helped me realize the career path I want to take.
Like I will say that through job searching, I have
looked at complete opposite of jobs and career paths, and

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yet they all still apply to me in a way.
They're just so different because I'm still figuring it out,
like I still.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Don't know what I want to do. If anything.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
It's funny, I recently actually had an interview for this one.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Job, and you thought it was going to go good.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
I thought it was gonna go great.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
I was like I was going into it thinking like, oh,
this is this is gonna be my job. Like I
really was very passionate about it. And I got to
the interview and it was so different from what I
had expected, and it made me realize, Okay, this is
a position now I'm avoiding, Like I don't.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
I don't want that position.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
You can avoid that exactly.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
So Yeah, I think my best advice to give is
to just, you know, don't be so stressed all the
time about trying to find a job, and you know,
seeing that everyone has their shit figured out, just be
okay with and just be accepting of the fact that,
like you're figuring it out and that's okay, and enjoy it.

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Enjoy figuring it out, Like, be happy that you get
to choose your path right now and you get to
figure it out. I think that would be the best
advice I can give.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
I think another advice that I'd like to add on
to your point is also realizing what's meant to be
versus what's not, because I think what's another thing that
people are stressing about is they're going into these interviews thinking, oh,
this is the perfect job, like I know it's from me.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
I know it's from me. And then you don't get
the job.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Just know that it's a sign to tell you that
this wasn't meant for you, like exactly, take it as
a sign, don't take it as a negative. And if
anything allowed that to be your motivation to keep going
and find that dream job, it just means that there's
something better that's coming for you and that you really
just need to have that mindset when you are looking
for the right career.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Have that mindset, the same mindset you would have when
it comes to relationships. You know, the saying like there's
there's so many fish in the sea, Well it applies
to too. Just because you don't get that one job
that you thought was your perfect career job, your perfect
dream job, Like that's okay, there's gonna be other jobs

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out there that are probably more perfect for you.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
That are kind of open up and exactly realized. I'm
so happy I didn't get that other job because it
allowed me to get to this point now actually getting there.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
I feel like also as somebody who's kind of going
through the job search and interview process right now, it
honestly makes it way less nerve wracking when you're going
into an interview where you're like, Okay, this is it's
not the end of the world if I don't get
this job, And honestly, I feel like I do better
in the interview because I'm not overly anxious and I'm

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not like desperate, like oh my god, I need this job,
where like everything's like nothing's going to work out. And
I honestly feel like it's helped doing that, Like I
feel way more chill in an interview and like way
less stress knowing like, Okay, it's not the end of
the world if I don't.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Get this job, and I think it just as you said,
it allows you to kind of like take your time
and search and it just makes you realize, like what
ones you can apply for that you're actually extremely interested
in and not feel the stress of like I need
to get something right now.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yeah, instead of being stressed, honestly, just enjoy it because
it is a fun time in your.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Life figure out, Oh my god, and also just like
so exciting. Let's think about this.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
You I see so many tiktoks about this, but you
were only able to live the one age once in
your life, essentially, right. So it's like people always talk
about how being in your twenties and thirties are the
best years of your life. So when you do have
that break and you don't have the stress of having
a kid's or a family or a mortgage to worry about, like, truly,
just enjoy that essentially stress free life because your life

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doesn't get stressful until you have more responsibility like that, right,
So truly, just enjoy the best years of your life
and not stress and realize that the good things will
be coming and that the right job will come at
the right time and you'll realize when it does come.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
The next one is all about adulting, so advice just about.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Like living alone, just growing up, being in your mid
twenties all that.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
So the first question we had was living alone for
the first time, How do you deal with it? How
did you kind of like overcome the fear? Essentially, And
I personally, I guess didn't have that experience because I
moved in with Zach, but essentially, like I am living
alone because when Zach does travel and all that, I
do have to be independent and essentially, let's be.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Honest, she asks me to come over, that's a solution.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
No, don't even I'm an independent woman. I don't need
you guys always here.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
But I do actually cherish my alone time now, like
when Zach is a way I do actually like, yeah,
you haven't actually asked me recently to come home? No,
because I think as you age you kind of realize
like how much you cherish the times alone, and then.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
You get to a point where you want people. But
then there's like you need like a bit of a mixing,
but a social medi also need. And then when you die,
there's a serial killer in the closet. Then actually, know what,
I have been good?

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Maybe it's because I watch less horror movies lately, but yeah,
I haven't had.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Honestly, like, living alone can be really, really scary. Especially
if you're somebody who has always like lived with their parents.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah, yeah, I've been close to home.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
But I think in general, leaving your house, like leaving
your family home and leaving your parents is freaking weird,
let's be honest, Like it's so. I remember the first
like month of me moving out, I felt like I
was constantly at my parents' house, Like on the weekends,
I'd be like, oh, yeah, like I'm just coming over
for a pool there, you know what I mean. Like
I didn't really like, yeah, sure, moving out with your
boyfriend or husban or friend whatever it is like roommates.

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You know, it's it's fun.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
The idea is exciting and it's exciting.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
But then when you're doing it, sometimes you kind of realize,
oh wait, but I kind of like miss being with
my family because you realize there's so much responsibility when
you live alone, right, Like there's so many.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Things that you don't think about, like cleaning up a house.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
You know, Oh, now you have a mortgage to figure out,
a rent that you have to pay, and it becomes
obviously something that could be stressful because now you're really
just doing everything yourself and you're not getting the help
essentially from your family to help support you. And of
course your parents are always going to find ways to
support you in different ways.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
But at the end of the.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Day, like you do have to build confidence in yourself
to be able to do things alone. And that's why
parents push you to live alone and be out of
the house and realize your independence and like the responsibility
of just yeah, being alone.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
And I think like the best advice I could give
for that is, like, I mean I've never like truly
lived alone, so I can't really say from like full
personal experience, like I've had roommates, but just like seeing
like Kaylee kind of navigating it. I think the best

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advice like, if you are close to home, make those
trips home when you need and you're having a hard day,
it's okay to like go back home, Like that's totally okay.
So if you can do that, great, like take advantage
of that because I think, you know, kind of being
back with your family kind of like makes you feel
it makes you feel good, yeah, like, and I think

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that kind of helps the process, and yeah, that's part
of the process.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, I think in the beginning, it's it's a massive adjustment,
like it's never gonna fully you're not gonna move out
and be like yep, I'm gonna have my ship figured
out like no one. And I mean if they think
that's the case, I mean, that's shocking to me. But yeah, regardless,
I think you're always gonna feel a little weird the
first few months when you do move out and kind
of have this sense of missing your family and your
home and all that sudden, but you do end up

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like building confidence in a way. Once you start to
live alone for a bit, you you realize, okay, you
almost like there's like this switch in your mind where
it's like, Okay, I need.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
To be independent, like I need to figure shit out myself.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
And that's how you kind of create an adulthood of
yourself by and going through the adulting phase of like Okay,
I can do this shit myself, like.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
You just putting yourself in that site.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
I think there's gonna probably be days that are harder
than others, and there's gonna be days that are better
than others. You know, maybe creating like a schedule or
like making a plan, like Okay, let's say you're feeling
overwhelmed with like how much cleaning you need to do
or whatever the case may be. Like writing that down
to plan everything out, I think would be really beneficial.

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And also keeping yourself busy, like I know for me,
like when I'm like feeling like anxious or like stressed
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
The case may be, there's always something to distract yourself. Now,
there's always something fully Like especially.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Living alone, you can find something clean the bathroom, like, figure's.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Something higher house.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah, maybe do some meal prepping, do some baking, go
to the grocery store, Go to the grocery store.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
You could do so many things. Like literally, I feel
like I actually like have a hard time.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
And your body will like adjust, Like I'm somebody who
absolutely hates change, Like I absolutely hate it, but change
in life, life is inevitable. Like yeah, you can't like
avoid it, like that's gonna happen. It didn't happen, and
it's probably gonna be hard for the first few weeks.
Your body is just you know, not used to it.
But trust me, you will adjust and it will always

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get better.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
It's never I actually was gonna say, like there's so
much responsibility for a house in general and living alone
that sometimes I have a hard time actually like going
to see friends and all that because I realize how
much that has to get done in the house.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
And things that I have to do.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
So yeah, just know that living alone is amazing, Like
it truly is, and I think.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
It probably figure out a lot about yourself.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
I was just about to say that you figure out
so much, You learn so much about yourself and it
makes you realize, like how it's one of the best
things you could ever go through as.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
I feel like you're more productive too.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Yeah, yeah, because like me being somebody who lives at home, like, oh, well,
my mom can do my laundry, oh my.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Mom, yeah, cook me dinner, And when you're living alone,
it's like, oh, I.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Don't have to do that.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Well I don't have I don't have a butler. Yeah,
I don't have a nanny, hires myself.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
No, it's and it's truly like like the most rewarding
thing too, just like knowing that you're able to do
these things yourself, like cooking for your good I bet.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, it does feel really good. Okay.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
The next question we had about adulting is what to
prioritize in your mid twenties. Is it your career, is
it your relationship with maybe your boyfriend or is it traveling.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
I mean, I think it's all the above.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Well, I think this is kind of a hard question
to talk about because I think it's very specific to
eat a person like somebody may be there may be
a person out there who's like very very adventurous and yeah,
they want to prioritize in their twenties, is visiting as
many countries as possible, whereas another person, like for example, me,

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may have flight anxiety. Yeah it is perfectly okay with
stay put on the ground.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
And then you realize that your prioritize is more my
career right Like.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
I think my biggest priority right now would be my
career and finding my passion. And I think navigating, Like
if you are trying to navigate focusing on your career,
focusing on a relationship, but still also wanting to be
adventurous in travel, it is hard to prioritize all three

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and trying to figure out like what to prioritize first,
I think is going to be different for everyone. And
I think you need to sit down with yourself and realize, Okay,
like where do I want, like what makes me the
most happy and where do I want to kind of
like put my time towards because it is possible to

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do all. It's just about you know, figuring out and
trying it. Plan.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
So this is what I want to touch here, because
this is why I talk about vision boards so much,
because your vision board really allows you to figure out
what your year has in store for you. Yeah, and
I like it's a mix of every Yeah, And let's
be honest, mid twent doesn't mean one age. Mid twenties
means like five to six ages, right, So you might
be thinking, Okay, when I'm twenty five and twenty six,

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I really want to focus on traveling, right Like I
want to get my young years done of traveling to
as many different countries as I want. And then by
twenty six twenty seven, I really want to put the
career focus on me, focusing on.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
My career, getting my shit and gear.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
And maybe that's on top of also managing your relationship
or maybe you know you're not in a rush to
find a relationship. You're really just wanting to figure out
your career and traveling, and maybe you want a relationship.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
I think also too, the best part about being in
a relationship, if you are in a relationship is essentially
doing life together.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
So I was just about to say this, if you
want to travel, then travel with your partner.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Like, this is exactly what I had.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
I did though, So when I was right after college,
I you know, worked for this company, was doing different
types of you know jobs in their business department. But
I wasn't really stressed about finding my career because I
was actually traveling alon with Zach at the time. We
would go to Europe, you know, visit all these different countries,
and I was banking all my vacation time to use

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it towards trips with him, right, So we were making
our priority as a couple to do traveling together right exactly.
And then we both also kind of went through the
phase of you know, slowing down and realizing, Okay, now
we need to both kind of prioritize our careers. Let's
figure out out our ship. You figure out way and
figuring out what I'm doing.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Even with prioritizing your careers, if you're with the right person,
they're going to be your biggest cheer.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
And that's when you know it's the right person because
you're doing it together and you want to you know,
there's things together right like.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
You can still prioritize your career and still prioritize at
the same time your relationship because your partner should be
in full support of your career and it should also
be as much as it is your passion. They should
be passionate about how much you.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Love your job. If that makes any sense.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
It does make with for example, Kayley and Zach, like
Zach is like you know, showing up and showing showing
in the videos, like making the time.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
To nothing is for everything nothings like he wants to
be there. He knows your passion because he knows it's
my passion. And I mean I can't do the same
for his job unfortunately, because I'm actually goes and yeah,
I actually go to the construction site and you know,
I do my thing.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
He actually has, you know, wanted me to show up
to the job. So you know what if there was
a time, yeah, she could show up, I was she would.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
But you know what, you know what I would say
that I always do show up in terms of like
his career and like showing that I do care and
such is that when he's building stuff outside, for example,
you know, I'll ask questions about like oh, like you know,
if he's drilling something I don't. I don't know anything, right,
So I show I care by like asking questions and
kind of talk about his career because he's very passionate

(42:01):
about it obviously, And then you know what he does.
He sometimes here, yeah, I'll show you, like he kind
of shows me how to you know, I actually did
a few boards on the deck, not gonna lie, So
I did kind of participate in building the deck.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
It was two boards, not.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Gonna, not gonna you know, well it's like times, but
I did do it. But he, you know, he tried
to get me involved, and I tried to show that
I cared by learning how to use a drill, how
to drill a board.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
I mean, did I have to make that effort.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
No, But because he puts so much effort in my career,
I wanted to like show up for.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Him and like exactly help him out.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
It's the same too, like for example, with my relationship,
Like I don't fully understand what my boyfriend does as
a career, but I ask a lot of questions, and
like he appreciates when I ask these questions, and when
I want to be show, you know, more about it
and what he's doing because it shows that I care
and I love that it's his passion yea. And I

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want to be there, right there with him to you know,
celebrate the little wins in his career when he gets
promoted or whatever you you.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Know, the case may be, I want for each other.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
I'm getting excited because I feel like I'm right there
with him, and I know it's the same with me,
Like he's been really helping me with your job searching
and graduation.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
I actually just I wrote.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
A paper on my master's work and I just found
out this morning that my paper got accepted which is
going to be published, which is so exciting. And the
first thing he said to me was where can I
read it? Like he instantly wanted to read it. So yeah,
I feel like you know that question of like what
to prioritize in your mid twenties, knowing that like it

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doesn't have to just be one thing, and it also,
like I said earlier, it may be different for everyone,
like everyone's going to have a difference.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
But I think it's all about planning exactly.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Like if you are somebody who wants to prioritize everything,
plan it out, like Kaylee said, you know, maybe if
you want to travel to a bunch of countries, plan
out okay, at this age or in these months, like.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
From January to March or whatever. Everyone's going to have
their own timeline.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Right in terms of like what stages they want certain
things to be a priority in different times in their life.
So this is why I stress the importance of vision
boards and like monthly goals and all that, because I
think you can't achieve all these things if you actually
like set yourself up for these small wins and like, and.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
It shouldn't it shouldn't be stressful prioritize everything, like you
definitely can do it all and figure it out if
you know, you just kind of, like I guess, set
your mind to it.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Yeah, And financially, like you got to like think of
your finances, saving money and like all that.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
You just it's all about creating a plan for yourself
and whatever works best for you.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Because what works best for you may not work best
for someone else, and that's okay. You figure out what
you need to prioritize. I feel like it's hard, especially
in your twenties, you compare yourself a lot to other people's,
Like you may see somebody who's traveling the whole world
and you're like, wait on, want to do that, but
that's not what's best for me, Yeah, in this right moment,
and that's okay. What somebody else may prioritize may not

(45:06):
be what you need to prioritize, and that's totally okay. So,
like Kiley said, making that vision board and figuring out
what you need to prioritize is the best way to go.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
And I think it's okay to also understand that, Like
I think I'm sure you guys have heard from your
parents whether they'll be like, oh, if there was one
regret that I had from when I was living young,
was doing this and doing this, Like you also have
to understand that no one's life is perfect and then
everyone's always going to have something that they may have
regretted or whatever. And again never say never, right, these

(45:38):
things that your parents might regret, now, who knows, they
might be able to do it when they're in their
senior year in terms of like you know, when they've retired,
maybe they can travel more because they didn't travel enough
in their twenties. Now they can travel together as a
senior couple and doing cruises together or whatever the case be.
But so like never say never in terms of like
thinking that you have a timeframe of when you need
to complete things too, because like, not everyone's life is perfect.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
That's not the reality.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Exact reality is is just like taking every year by
year a step by step process of just you know,
completing whatever you're prioritizing or whatever your goal is and
knowing that you can do all these things if you.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Plan it out in a timely manner.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Well, that concludes our episode for the day today. I
hope you guys enjoyed this episode. It definitely was very fun.
I think we both really enjoyed that and just answering some.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Of your questions.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
If you guys loved this episode, definitely make sure to
post it on your Instagram story, tagging the Hawkgirl Energy
Instagram page. But I love you guys also much Thank
you guys for listening to another episode and we will
see you guys in next week's episode.
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