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It's funny col uh you know,uh spitting chicklets. Yeah you know,
Ara, No, but only becauseof this video you're about to reference.
Yeah, you see how Big Waltshut the door on him. So so
Ara is a part of Spitting ChickletsGigantic podcast a bis Nasty and Ryan Whitney
and Ara is kind of like he'sa host, kind of a goofball,
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you know, just you know,not a not a former player, not
no god, no no, butjust a big and he's got a funny
accent. He mixes well with them, like he does. But he's just
booz I get it. But notas good as yours, not as good
as ours. But uh so thewhole series, like he's just bashing Florida,
you know, like you know,being like just loud on Twitter,
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like loud. He's getting clicks,he's doing his thing. He's he's doing
extra video for Edmondton and this,that and the other, just bashing Florida
and so they all got passes togo on the ice and stuff like that.
He gets on the ice and BigSean Thornton, who's a tough guy
in the league, who's head oflike player operator whatever his business operations comes
down and goes, get to you, fuff the ice, Get out of
here. What are you doing?Get out of here? And he was
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trying to go into the locker roomand hang out. Waltz, shut the
dorm, get your ass out ofhere. Oh yeah, dude booted him
out. All the other guys gotto go in there. They kicked his
ass out. Yeah, come on, did he have a credential? Yeah,
so a player's dad all that.He's trying to talk to the players.
All the players new too. Thereget the hell out of my face.
Yeah, and maybe this guy wentover the line. Yeah, I
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know, unless it's all you thinkthat's set up like that is right in
a moment, there's no way.No, they're like, get the help,
Sean Thornton, Who's I'm telling hegoes get out of my face?
Damn. Yeah, man, thisshows you like they hear it. You
know what about that go out you'regonna be extra like that and go a
little too much to make a pointto get clicks, like they see that
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he didn't like deal a thing withKa Chuck and like a horse being shot
in the past year. No,he didn't go that far. Yeah,
because he's soft. Oh man,oh man. Yeah, so that was
I thought that was in thinking,like, whoa they are pissed at him?
Yeah, well they hear it,you know what I mean? And
they're like I kind of be pissedtoo, and Walt's the happiest moment of
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his life. Some players don't doit. That's why I take that tweet
ahead and show I show all theplayer who'd we do that to? No?
We did that the Cole didn't weYeah, we did that to you?
What was that for? Kiss?Oh? That's right? That was
funny. Did I get because Idid? I did? I get you
a little bit on that? Yeah, all right, I believe you.
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Yeah, dude, I remember that. I think Matt Whitner bought it too,
that's right. Didn't even tell Maddieand he bought it. We're like,
kis man cool, I got totalk to you, dude, because
he's not coming back on the show. He's like he said he saw those
tweets a wayno man, and he'sgoing in the locker room Wayno's like what
are you doing on that show?Do we got? Like? Man?
Cole's like, oh man, ohgod, yeah, psych oh man,
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oh man? Get him in AudiExchange text on Kirkwood, Missouri five five
two eight two eight two five five. I know it's a bit she said
rain last night for you, butI'm kind of glad it did We needed
that rain a little bit, man. Nope, not glad. No,
it sucks, dude. We gottwo games now. I already did a
pre game. Sat there for along time. Hm, hm hm.
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Did Lancelynn text you and let youknow when it was gonna be postponed?
No? And you know what Atlanta, the Atlanta crew was told before we
were, so Hannah had to tellyou. I don't think it was Hannah.
I think it was the producer,but it might have been. She
on the field, so I askedwhere she was, and she was in
the dugout all dugout, so Ididn't see her. So yeah, yeah,
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she's working, man, she's aworker. Uh eight five five two
eight two eight two five five.We got we got Charles Leonard Marlow coming
in and then we got Tuna comingin. I wonder what he's gonna talk
about today. What's he been talkingabout in his show? Aliamarmal, Oh
yeah, what's he saying? Racistcomments? Oh yeah, yeah, I
figured desk pop up. You know, you sound depressed. What's that so
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you sound depressed? Didn't? Charlieannounced that he doesn't deal in race anymore.
Uh, only when business deals.That's what that was in reference to.
He said he does not use therace card to get sponsors. Oh
sure, So what was his takeon the alley thing like St. Louis
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St Louis. Yeah, well,I actually I haven't listened to a show
this week, so it'll be fresh. But uh, he did, you
didn't want to go to bed?Apparently? I know I need and that's
why my sleep schedule has been sooff these past couple days. I've been
listening to a show you put youdown. I gotta get back on my
schedule. I got a nap cueuedup after this show, I got the
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comedy club, and then after thatagain, I gotta I gotta somehow not
stay up too late after having alreadytook a nap and then work in the
club. So I gotta figure somethingout. So I gotta get back on
my my tuna show regiment. Yeah, let's see tune. I also said
racism is a thousand percent happening.I've been listening every week. You know
me, I know you have clothes. Yeah, I just is there more
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to the story. Did he likeelaborate or it happened? And what anything
go down? Like if you saysomething crazy in a crowd, like,
people are gonna look at you likeyou're nuts and you probably get booted out
of the same I believe, Ibelieve he hurts. I'm not doubting him
at all because I think he's astand up guy. I'm just I've never
heard it. And I you know, look, if someone yelled something in
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a crowd of forty thousand, you'regonna hold the whole crowd responsible. I
mean really, because if that's thecase, then you hold everyone responsible that's
in whatever peer group that may befor one bad actor. And we don't
do that. And is that whatHawkman did? I just I saw tweets
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from people saying be better, youknow, be better Saint Louis or whatever.
Look like, if I weren't acrowd and someone was yelling stuff,
I'd say shut up. Everybody would. Jimmy agree, everybody would. If
you're in a crowd and somebody saidsomething racist, They're all gonna be like,
would you say, get him outof here? Get him out?
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This guy blah blah blah. Godyeah, man, And I agree with
what I don't buy that. Whenwas the last time you heard anybody say
something RACI in front of a bunchof people exactly what happened. But when
it does, people can like,whoa, what'd you say? Probably in
the bathroom after at a bar,after the Ole Miss Lazu game, I
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mean a sporting event or something likethat. Bar family there's families around and
stuff like that, and people arelike, would you say like people would
freak out, And Saint Louis andCold Cold brought up a good point,
like if someone yells something like that, it's just part of like the nastiness
of a sports fan. But tome, if you're going to use a
racial epithet, then you're probably racist. Like if you want to get someone
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on the field and you're like,you're this or that, you know,
it's intead of calling him a bum, you call him some take on whatever
his ethnic background is, then you'reyou're a racist to yell that out,
and then they're gonna And I dothink people would push back on you there.
I one hundred percent believe that theywould push back. And I also
believe that they would find out whothe guy was, they look him up
on social media and they'd be like, get this guy here he is,
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you know, so I, youknow, I just think that that's I
do believe that would think about it. If you're a major league manager and
you're playing in front of thirty fortythousand every night, and there's a lot
of games, you're probably gonna heareverything from A to Z from the fans.
My point is, I'm not sayingthere's no racism in the world.
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I'm saying you're gonna hear some ofeverything, and just because some idiot yelled
something, that doesn't mean the entirecrowd or fan base is responsible. Well.
And the reason I say that is, for a while, Dead spind
was really trying to push that Cardinalfans and by Lewis was racist and Blues
fans with the Kadre thing. Sothey tried to pick the Blues fans being
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racist towards Cadre when he knocked outBenner because he was getting death threats from
a thirteen year old boy with cheetosand his belly button in his basement,
and the remember he's a victim,and so they're writing stories in Denver about
how bad the Saint Louis Blues fansare in Saint Louis and this, that
and the other, and they're racist, So like that's where it's that to
me, I'm like, that justsucked. Well, I tell you,
every fan base is the same.They just are. They're different in the
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amount of people. But as faras behavior goes, every sports fan or
every sports fan base as the exactsame competit composition. Can I say that
At first? I kind of agreewith that because generally people are people like
I agree with that, Like peopleall this city, there's a suburb outside
the city where the people are kindof like suburbs of a suburb outside another
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city. Like people kind of likethere's a lot of common ground for everyone.
Most people kind of want the same. However, there's a difference between
say the rivalry for you've read sideYankees or Giants Dodgers where people get stabbed
then Cards Cubs, Like you goto Wrigley as a Cardinal fan, you're
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gonna hear some chirping whatever, butit's almost like a friendly rivalry. It's
not a violent we're gonna kick yourbutt as soon as you go to the
parking lot to the level of someof the other rivalries like Yankees, Red
Sox, Man Devil's Rangers. Imean, I remember looking up at the
stands and seeing fights all the time. Kate would be in the state,
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Yes, Kate, yes, exactly. I don't like the term guido,
no no, no, tough guy. I think it's racist. Tough guys
everywhere. Apologies to Italians in NewYork tough guys. Oh yeah, everybody's
a tough guy. I remember seeinglike this, fights all the time,
Kate, Kate's like, God,there was a fight right in front of
us. They almost fell down thestairs and hit a little kid. Like
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it happened so much. Man,it was heated those guys those two states.
Oh yeah, dude, big time. So there's to me, there's
a difference. Yeah, I agree. I think generally speaking, your point
is well taken, but in certainrivalries it's just a higher level of I
would say, back in the nineties, if somebody said something racist or homophobic,
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maybe it would get kind of like, you know, chill out.
Nowadays, I like to I liketo think that people would stop what they're
doing, point the guy out,and like this is unacceptable. I've never
heard anything in a big I mean, in a bathroom in a club,
yeah, okay, But when there'sfamilies around at a sporting event, somebody
says something crazy, everybody's get thisguy, get him out of here,
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Get him out of here. Ilike to think that I've been to a
lot of games before, and everysingle stadium has that text line that you
send a message of somebody in thefans and the fan base is getting unruly.
I've only seen one person actually likeutilize that to kick people out,
and like I people, not necessarilyracism, but like just profanities in general,
like just saying something. It's likelike the word you know, maybe
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have you ever seen security tell guypipe down? I have? Oh yeah,
yeah, I've seen that as afan. Only when like somebody was
texted, when they actually texted security'ssaying hey, this guy saw the guy
and using profanity, and they cameand they said, were your warning.
Yeah, there's people around that don'twant to hear that. No good guy,
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because they heard it. It wasn'tlike someone reported him. Yeah,
asked tune of JJ Reddick is gettingthe Lakers job because of white privilege,
and then ask him I promise thatcomes in. Yeah, and then ask
him the five greatest races in theworld. Okay, we got that.
I got right that down. Doyou know? So when I asked him
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also, if stan Krunky is progressivebecause of his hiring, boy, that's
his boy. I like talking aboutthat. What do you think about the
JJ Reddick was Were you surprised aboutthat? But the coaching hire? Yeah,
yeah, I'm that's a big stepright there. Man with no coaching
degree and a lot of people aremaking fun of him that all he has
on his resume is coaching a fourthgreat basketball team. Now you've got to
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deal with Lebron. Yeah, hewas a he was a player. Oh
yes, haven't we seen that?Like, look, I don't know anything
about JJ Reddick except him as acommentator and a player. But we've seen
players go from player to coach ormanager. We've seen we've seen guys get
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hired. There were former players fromthe booth go to coach or manager or
so we've seen it before. Yeah, Marty Saint louis one of them.
We just had him on like ayear ago on our podcast and he's talking
about coaching his Triple A team andflying them everywhere on you know, nice
charter stuff and whatnot. Then Alsodenhe gets hired by the Montreal Canadians with
no coaching experience besides his kid.What we got Mike on Big Mike?
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What's up baby? What's on yourmind? Hey guys, Hey, what's
up? Two things about Edmonton.Do you recall how they were like about
two and ten at the beginning ofthe season. Oh yeah, and uh
and they pulled it out. Imean I was, I was looking at
their record. It wasn't that muchbetter than the Blues. It was only
like a six or seven game difference. No, they were terrible. They
were terrible. And I remember liketalking about get McDavid out of there,
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get him out. He's miserable.He looks he's aging by the day.
Every single post game he's calling it. He's this miserable looking and all of
a sudden they just turn it aroundand figured out, hey, give that
Chris Knablock a little shot out man. This guy just all of a sudden
just you know, joins one ofthe team that's like supposed to be Stanley
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Cup contenders and they're in last place. Basically, this new guy comes in
there with no NHL coaching experience andturned the whole thing around so pretty good.
Reminded of the Blues back and youknow, four or five years ago.
One one other thing was would youhave put the fourth, third or
fourth line in for the last twominutes when they were totally gasped Edmonton coach
at the end there. It's agood question. But you go out and
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you put your third, fourth lineout there, and you got the best
player in the world sitting on thebench, even though he doesn't have legs.
I don't know. I'd say youprobably have to roll the I'm putting
the two best players out there,although they are straight legging it. But
then again, your secondary scoring isone that's showing up. So they had
the juice. So that's a damngood question. Man, that's a damn
good question. It's hard to losea game and all of a sudden,
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ninety seven's on the bench the lastminute of the game. I don't know.
He couldn't make McDavid, couldn't getup and down the ice. I
think he had a pulled. Youknow, all the injuries are coming out
now. I think dry Siddle hadbroken ribs and then he had some kind
of growing tear. Sure. Ijust know that when I watched the series
early on, he was going throughthree four guys like it was nothing.
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And at the end one guy stoppedhim cold because he just didn't have any
explosion nothing. So that's a goodquestion. Though. The Panthers know all
that, they know their injuries,they know, they know they just stacked
the deck at the at the endof the game and just put everybody in
the box to keep them shut themdown. They shut them down, dude,
they played. They played the kindof Panther game they played all damn
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year. Thanks. I called Mike. Yeah, that was in interesting man,
that that was good that they wentto Game seven. It's good for
hockey. You know what made mefeel happy when I got home that night.
My kid's watching it. Yeah,that's a sports fan. Yeah,
I mean, even though you're nota hockey fan, that's the best player
in the world. He love theBlues, but he's not watching a ton
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of NHL outside of he's not watchingDucks and Flames on Wednesday night near am
I. You know, especially withCalgary because it's going to be an eight
o'clock game. I'm not watching that. No one gets to watch ninety seven
out east Man unless you're staying upall damn night, you know, get
him in Audi Exchange tex sign inKirkwood, Missouri eight five five two eight
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two eight two five five. Let'ssee what's going on. Yeah, I
don't know. Wives you put ina You sent a picture of an article
about me and d J. Kinga one to two punch. Oh that's
pretty interesting. Yeah, they keptboth of us for a year and a
half. Kinger. Kinger was areally good guy. God would be tough,
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Charlie. Why don't you call Kingerwhat you said yesterday? They memories
said, Uh, I don't wantto repeat it. I guess esteem a
steam you know, he's like,no, no, that is. Guy's
got in trouble in the OHL forcalling guys that word and they got suspended.
I remember that, like, whatdoes that even mean? Never heard
of it until I went to Canada. But Canada's not racist now we're the
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only country that is. We're theonly country racism lives around the glow.
Car J. King was a gooddude, and he was tough. He
was so funny dude. He wasa scary, funny, drunk, happy,
drunk. Thank God, God washe hilarious? Man, great guy.
Always got along with the guys Iwas competing with too. There's only
one guy I didn't get along with, Chris partch And and he just I
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couldn't have a vibe with him.But every other guy that I was even
competing with, I was good friendswith. It's good, you know what
I mean? Yeah, because ifyou're not, you're miserable. You're miserable,
and you're just evaluating everything he's doing. Every damn day he makes a
good play, You're like, nah, he does some good in practice,
like damn it. Like it's justwears on you, you know, does
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man? Yeah, But deep down, when the guy you're competing against isn't
good, uh, you feel okay, you just have to pretend you're not.
It's still better to be friends withhim. That doesn't mean you don't
have to take it to a personallevel, right, you still want to?
Except you tell me if a guy'sif a guy's taking some of your
minutes and you're or you're a healthyscratch upstairs probably hating every minute of it,
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and that guy scores, you're like, yay, but deep down you're
not. Dude. I remember goingon the I wasn't playing much, you
know, my time was kind ofwinding down here, been here three and
a half years. It's like justjust kind of needed a change whatever.
And so I were at the airportdown the Spirit and we walk in and
all of a sudden, Reaver andanother Chris Porter were sitting there. I'm
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like, oh, no, Reaver, what's up, buddy? How you
doing? What's going on? Youcome on a trip with us, with
a long West coast trip. He'slike, yeah, yeah, okay,
cool man. Knowing that that's myhe's taking my spot obviously. He's a
right winger. He's a tough guy. He's in the minors. He got
called up and I'm like, ohgod. So I was like so miserable.
It's going younger than you, bigger, better, everything better. And
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I was going through a weird timetoo, so I was already kind of
depressed. And you see him andyou're like, oh, just to flateho.
Then we go to Anaheim, No, we go to l A.
I play in that game with him. I fight this Kevin westcarth guy,
big, tall, hard to fightkind of guy, swung me around.
Didn't have a good fight. Reavergoes out there, fights Kyle Clifford knocks
him out. Boom. I'm like, oh my god, like, good,
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good for you, but that ain'tgood for me. Let it go
next game, Next game, Idon't play. He goes out there first
shift. What do you think hedoes? Top shelf scores a goal.
I'm like, oh, by Carusocomes in the locker room. He's a
beauty. He's like, you getto pack your bags something like that,
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and I'm like, you, heknew I was gonna be okay whatever,
but it's a business. But hesays he knew how deflated. That's the
first thing flated. And he goesout there. It'scorre. He walks in
there with a smile. He saidsomething just smirky, smart ass to me,
and I'm just like, He's like, come here, man, he
gave me a hog and you can'teven get mad at him. No,
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you can't. But that's just youknow, I took it. I could
have got pissed him, but I'mnot, like it is what it is.
That's all me. He's better thanme. I gotta be better.
I gotta do something better. IfI'm sitting games out, there's a reason
for it at the time. Mybuddy's like, you need no no,
no no no like me, nono no. In your head you I
never acted that way, But inyour head you're kind of like, of
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course, you know, yeah,you're doing that. Dad whose son didn't
make it? The coach didn't likehim? Why? Yeah, school,
Yeah, why why didn't you likehim? Transfer the best players on the
team. Oh? Really, andthe coach still doesn't like him. Interesting,
that's the whole softball guy, yeat? Have a high school coach doesn't
like playing their best player? Yeah, I don't want to play my best
player, Get out of here.What about if it's a coach's kid playing
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over? That was Ben Roethlisberger's thingin high school. He didn't play quarterback
till his senior year because the coach'sson was playing the first three years,
and that's something. Did he dominatethe coach his son? I'm sure he
did hit the next year when thecoach son graduated. Sometimes that goes the
other way too. Sometimes if you'redat you you don't you give him,
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You treat them differently in a badway because you want to show everybody else
that we don't. You know,I'm not but in most cases, Like
I'm just trying to kind of scanit real quick. How many head coaches
have kids that were walk ons thatmade the team in college basketball, that
are the last guy on the bench, but somehow made the team as walk
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on. Oh that I can thinkof. I can think of a few
cases. Well we had that girl'sson, or or like what we had
in triple A, because it wasreally at the time and and was you
have a couple of kids that weren'tgood, but they got a little bit
of money. Their mommy and daddypaid an extra ten fifteen g's or whatever,
just set up for maybe whatever.It help out. And now that
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kid's playing and we all knew itbecause he wasn't good, but you needed
the money to help out because itwas such a it was so expensive,
and you know, got a bunchof construction workers way out and fitting or
whatever. There's kids all over,not just at the time. It wasn't
just wealthy kids. I remember,like my dad hang out all the dads.
They're all blue collar man. Nowadays, it's just it's a little ritzier.
I think it's easy to play forthe Loma Dag got money. It's
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it's just an easier thing. ButI remember, like our team, like
we're pretty blue collars, So youknow, it's it's it's taking a toll
on your on your pocketbook. You'reconstruction worker. You're traveling a freaking Michigan
every god dang Weigan every weekend.There's other expenses too. For example,
Tyler pitch the other day eighty pitchesand seventy eight were strikes, and of
course you know you got to paythe home plate, Umpire, and that's
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an expense, damn art. Itis everything. By the way, when
I when I joke like that,especially on Twitter, there's a couple of
people come at me hard, likeI'm besmirching the name of you, Thumpire.
Yeah, calm down, and I'mnot because those guys have a tough
job and they're not enough of them. Because sometimes you're not making a lot
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of money and you gotta you gottahear the fat guy, you know,
yelling at you from the stands Connelly. Yeah, So I always treat them
with respect. But over the yearsI have made the joke of me paying
off the officials in basketball and nowbaseball. Yeah well yeah, already made
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in the locker room. And thenthey booted them out Wombat. It was
pretty funny. Look at the clip, it's pretty it's pretty funny, man.
But those guys don't forget that,I know. But if you if
they the league credentials you to beat a game, you should be able
to use credential. Yeah, Imean, I don't know, I don't
care. Cam ranhom an old clip, but I saw it on YouTube recently.
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Was that the Evander Kane knockout onMatt Cook one of the most cleanest
brutal knockouts ever. Oh yeah,dude, Oh yeah, big time man.
Look at that bad boy up.Matt Cook deserved that. He hit
somebody and got like an eight gamer. He was one of those guys,
Matt Cooke that would catch you likeside, like blind side, you hit
and then not fight anybody. Andfinally he fought, and Evander Kaine just
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catches him with a freaking left boom. See you later, good night,
good night. You don't see goodfights very much anymore, dude. The
couple rempy in those lives was goingtoe to toe man with some of these
guys this year. That was entertaining, for sure. He actually he went
total. It came sort of astar, right, yeah, man,
his pictures were on like buildings andstuff. He's walking with his mom and
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during the playoffs and stuff like thatbecause he's I mean, they're all they're
talking about. Is then like he'sall over the papers and stuff like that.
They blow that stuff up. Man, if you're a tough guy over
there, they love it. Andso he's walking he's like, yeah,
mom, look there there, Iam right there, first time in the
city. Like, that's pretty cool. The big apple and your son's face
is on the side of the building. Pretty cool. Some teams don't really
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have a tough guy no more.Right, well the Blues don't, you
know, But it's hard to beone that now, like they're not.
Yes, my point, it's adifferent. It's a different the Ohl and
I played with killers everywhere. Nowit's just there's not you know what I
mean. You had to know howto fight, even even the guys that
didn't fight needed to know because you'regonna get mixed up in one and you
better know what you're doing because ifsomebody catches you and all of a sudden
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you got a concussion because you don'tknow what the f you're doing. Now
you're not scoring forty goals, you'rescoring twenty two because you're set back.
You gotta know what you're doing.There's still guys that know how to throw.
And if there's guys that can thatare scores or whatever and aren't tough
guys, but handle themselves when theyhad to fight, I think that gets
you a new level of respect.Big time yeps. Maybe get a little
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bit more space instead again, putye around and you don't get hurt.
You know, you don't get caughtwith one