6-26 Segment 3 - Some great bands can be ruined by one bad member + Talking about Manti Te'o

Some great bands can be ruined by one bad member + Talking about Manti Te'o

Episode Transcript

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Did you see Adam Wainwright is goingto the Saint Louis Sympathy Symphony, just
like Saint Louis Sympathy something like that, just like Metallica did in San Francisco.
Metallica and Adam Wainwright equals. Interesting. That's good man. How is
he doing? I haven't heard anythingtoo. Lars Alrey can be his drummer.
He gets chirped more on anybody.Oh my god, he gets chirped
on anybody. I've seen. He'sa simple technique. I've seen YouTube YouTube

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guys make compilation videos of him screwingup songs and I'm not enough of a
drumming expert, and nobody's doing wrong. I'm like, well, it's just
well, first of all, Idon't even know what the original sounds like
versus what he's doing live in performanceis. But I assume he's not like
Axel Rosen, just not showing upand like ruining the band. Oh he
he was hard to deal with inthat band. If you look at the

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documentary on them, he was.They all were hard to deal with at
a time. They're all when they'reall drinking. They Cliff died in the
eighties when that bus ride in Switzerland, and they him and Kurt Hamlet,
who's a lead guitar. We're justabout to get on the bus after a
gig in Copenhagen and now they gotto go over to Switzerland, whatever that
case was. And they get onthe bus and they roll the dice to

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who's gonna get the one bunk thebest bunk, and Cliff Cliff got it,
and they got into the bussy passedout and he went over his limited
drive and he's tried to overdo itand they're on this huge like cliff side
and stuff like that, and theyalmost rolled all the way over. So
they rolled over and they all getout and like, where's Cliff? Where's
Cliff? And he got caught insomething, cut his head off or whatever,

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smashed him and died. Really weirdstory. So you get through that,
and then they're all just they saidthey started boozing so bad. And
it's your best buddy, you grewup with them. You see. You
know you're you're doing this thing thatyou're just starting to get this thing going.
Man, you're starting to get this. You're creating this unbelievable monster and
you're building this all up and he'sa huge part of that, huge part

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of that. And all of asudden you get in a car accident,
a bus accident, and Nelson he'sdead, and you gotta just kind of
regroup. You gotta cancel your tour, like it's just Buddy's gone. Ah
yeah, yeah. They started drinkinghardcore. Lars was such an ass to
everybody. Then they just finally theysaid, we can't. We gotta stop
drinking. Good bands find a way. You're all drinking all the time,

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partying like that. It ain't gonnalisten, You're not gonna last. You
are not gonna last. Man,Guys cannot handle it. You've ever been
backstage at a rock concert. It'snot like going after the bat. You
know where the Cardinals families are aftergames and everybody's hanging out with our agents
and stuff like that. After bluesgames is family. Go in the back
of a rock concert, man,and see what's going on back there.

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It's it's dirty and you think gonnabe some substances. Oh yeah, Like
it's just it's just a different feel, right, you know what I mean.
Especially when you don't get big,you go to those little dumpy clubs
and stuff. Like that. Man, it's just a it's a hardcore scene.
Everybody's got rumpy. If you wantedto find something, somebody's got it,
you know what I mean. Nowyou're hiding your your drug abuse from
your te your bandmates and stuff likethat. Man, you're not gonna last

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long. The good bands find away to get sober so they could stick
together, you know. So sometimesalcohol can kind of destroy anything. Like
you have a van set up andthere's gonna be egos, who's getting the
most money. The guy who wrotethe song against more he does that's kind
of boiling underneath. Yeah, thenyou're mixing a tragedy like in this case,

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or alcohol a drugs. That bandain't gonna, like you said,
ain't gonna last. I remember Pantera, they would have they would they would
sleep all day after a gig andthey get up in dine bag. Daryl
would get up and his hands areshaking so bad, like ah God,
almighty boom. Take that tequila shot. Take that whiskey shot. Calm him

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down. Drinking whiskey every night.Phil Ensomo and Pantera was so messed up
on heroin and painkillers. He waseating everything he had to drink a bottle
of wild turkey. A whole bottleof wild turkey. You know what wild
turkey is? One on one proof, baby, Yeah, like hardcore,
hardcore alcohol. He crushed a wholebottle before he went on stage. And

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I can do it. I goon YouTube. I watch every single one.
I know exactly what he's on.I know when he's on Heroin.
I know when he was sloppy drunk, and I know when he was somewhat
sober. And there's a big differencein his performances. Man. I I
just remember, like just watching everything, and I just I read all about
his stuff. A whole bottle ofwild turkey. Can't do it, man,
that will mess you up big time. Say one of his bandmates.

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If he looks at a wine cooler, he'll die because he's got pinker and
Titus from just those guys just partiedso much crazy. It's crazy. Man.
Imagine that. Like you're playing everyother day, sometimes twice, you're
playing back to back nights. Yougot a crowd out there. You're like,
oh God, like I gotta getup. What do we got?
Well? This BOOZI help? Okay, we got to give me some give

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me something I need something to getup and perform like man, or even
in your case or in the realmof sports. Oh God, have guys
playing through pain knowing if I don'tplay, I'm not getting paid, I'm
not gonna to be here, andso you medicate. Man, dude,
I felt so if you knew howI felt sometimes a lot of times when

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I had to go out there andperform and fight guys, some of the
times I felt so god awful,like the worst feeling. You wouldn't even
be able to get out of bed, and I'd have to suck it up
and find to look it up andgo out there and just just kind of
get rid of my pain and thisnasty feel I'm pale and nasty and go

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out there and just suck it up. Man, it was tough. That
was that wore me out big time. Big time goes on in sports Stunk
Radio this morning. Yeah, nodoubt. And you know what I did.
I was like, I need something, m Yeah, fatty, I
drove through Dunkin Donuts. Hell yeah, I got myself a jelly donut,
get a little sugar in me.Not good for me, not good for
me, But I'm doing it forthe show. You doing right. If

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I'm not here, which will happenat eight twenty, uh, someone else
will take my spot, right,So I do things that are bad for
my body, like eating a jelly. That Stanley Cup series in the first
three games, but from boring anda blowout to one of the more entertaining
series I've ever watched. From anunbiased standpoint, sparting four four, I
agree, man, noways want thataction, baby, you want that action.

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You know the Cardinals were room forwho in the Florida blubhouse. I
was watching Florida. Yeah, theyall live there. Also because of the
USA. I like to see that. Yes, but USA versus Canada we
route us? Yeah, damn right? Does that make me an American?
Or does it make me equal toHamas that I was kind of pulling for

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for the Oilers because I kind oflike this. You pull for Canada in
the Olympics and we got a problem. But this is like no, I
just thought the story was current.I mean, they were getting mocked in
the early going on that series,mocked they didn't belong on the same ice.
Then it's three three, I know, and I'm sure the Panthers are
littered with Canadians on that team anyway. Yeah yeah, no doors or a

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Russian goaltender. Yeah yeah. Soit's all internet. Yeah man, I
mean there's so like if you dothat with the Olympics, but I get
to keep the cup in the US. It's all good. If someone says
races crap around me, whether it'sa blues game or a cards game or
whatever, I'm saying something to them, and then I'm getting the officials to
get them removed. No excuse,no tolerance, one hundred percent. That's

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what i'd do. I'd never turnmy head and say, not my problem.
If I hear it, it's myproblem. And if that's virtue signaling,
so be it. It's a worthycause to virtue signals. Sometimes sharing
the klutz, Oh, I betyou. She would say something. I
think a lot of people I agreewith that. I totally agree with that.

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And if you do say something racist, you're gonna get fired. You're
gonna get You're gonna show there's acertain element of and look, I'm not
saying again there's no racism. Ijust don't think there's a lot of it
being yelled from the stands. Youremember it was the one where they were
the uh they were yelling at Dingerand the my god, yes it wasn't.

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It wasn't what they it was Timand up to bat in Colorado.
Okay, So I'm not saying ithasn't happened that I'm sure it has because
they're idiots and racists out there.I'm just saying, generally speaking as someone
who's attended scores or games, Inever heard it. That's just well you
you wouldn't know. I would heareverywhere. You wouldn't hear the things.

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No, I hear you would.I would notice that, and I haven't
heard it. So I just don'tlike labeling. The labeling of a fan
base is kind of like the negative, negative stuff on Twitter, Like it
becomes fussing about it, you knowwhat I'm saying, Like it becomes fashionable.
It became the thing to mock theCardinals and fire Ali and all that.

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And it's also to me while theirfans are you know, like you're
trying to find something to go aftersomething and that and that kind of kind
of stuff is crazy on on Twitter, and there's there is there's racist crap
on there time on Twitter that allhappens. I mean, I have people
making fun of me for a worldof shepman groping his mom. I didn't

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do it. People still, well, you remember you said you were for
it. Oh I forgot about that. But people make fun of me for
Felipe Vasquez having a teenage your friend. I'm like, again, I didn't
sign him to the team either.What are they saying to you about that?
Or just just making fun like residualjokes, like because they can't make

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fun of them to their face,so they make fun of me just just
because they people who are fans,people who are fans of other teams.
Okay, that kind of seems likewhat happens to me on the text line.
Dude, you know how many jokesthat I got about Mantio just because
I'm a Notre Dame fan. Ohyeah, yeah yeah, It's like I
didn't fall for it. What areyou getting on me for? It's just

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how it goes. It's just lookingfor any little piece of Jimmy, a
little piece of cheese. He's gota tough just anything to bite out.
He got seventy three followers. Howbad could it be? Who's doing this?
You got seventy three follower you gotseventy three you guys thirty three followers.
One of the well, yeah,Mantito, I watched that making fun

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of making fun of the say theywanted to catfish him. Yes, I
was ka, But when that documentarycame out, everybody's like, god,
I feel so bad for anti tail. God. No, I could see
why. And I watched a documentarylike there must be some something new to
this on why he would get catfish. There was one thing. What it
was the picture that he requested thatwas sent to his bizarro land. When

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I watch that documentary, I feltthat he's even more bizarre. It didn't
it didn't help my the cause,like the as him as a victim,
I look at like, how thehell did you let that happen? So
bizarre dude? So I thought there'sgonna be something like, wow, this
happened something really weird. No,it was so don't get me wrong,
that was like two years into it. But he there were two things that

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I thought made him look not asbad. I won't say good, because
he still looks completely naive and justweird, doesn't understand social media etiquette whatsoever.
But and there were people on socialmedia saying he keeps saying that the
word catfish didn't exist, but therewas a show called Catfish that was airing

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on live television people getting catfished fora while during that time period. But
he said that it originated with thisperson friending him on social media, and
he saw that his cousin was friendswith this person on social media as well,
and he asked his cousin, Hey, do you know who this is?
And his cousin said yes. Sohe was under the impression of his

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cover story that his cousin knew thisperson personally. Fine, that's how you
get started. But after a whileyou're like, what do we know?
That's all still bogus. But Imean, oh, okay. So because
this went on for like two years, and so they were kind of just
like casually social media friends that kickedup eventually. But the thing that was
absolutely insane. And if you haven'tseen the Untold documentary, it's untold colon

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words, words, words, Iforget what they are, but it's on
Netflix. You can go see it. At the end of the first episode
where and again it was two yearsand it got to the point where the
character was killed off and then broughtback to life. So this had got
on way too long and it's hisfault for letting get that far. But
when they brought when they brought thecharacter back to life and said, hey,

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it's me. I'm actually not dead, and he goes cut it out,
like this is a joke, thisis so and so whatever. He
said, Oh, yeah, ifit's real, send me a picture with
this written on a piece of paperand send it to me right now.
And that person got the the girlwho was she was sending the photos of
that like the actual photos of thegirl who had nothing to do with this,
but her photos from the internet werebeing used to build the character.

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The hijacker got in touch with thatgirl, said hey, I for somehow
convinced that girl and it's really importantthat you take this picture with this with
these words right on the piece ofpaper, and you need to send it
to me right now. And thatgirl actually did it. And then he
related to Mantai and so he's like, Okay, well, how am I
supposed to think that this isn't real? Now, Cole he's a weirdo.

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I'm not. He's not naive becausehe's on and piicture talk to I mean,
I know the voice. It justdid. He's bizarre. He played
in the NFL for a number ofyears, didn't He never never lived up
to the to the high, buthe he started some games. I recall,
Yeah, good for him. TheDinger thing so funny. Man,

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go on, remember that it wasa dad and his son and they're looking
Dinger over here. Way, what'sgoing on here? You can actually see
the video and see the guy withhis son waving to Dinger, and then
that blew up and they showed himand he had to be like, well,
what's going on here? God?No one person in the stadium reacted
to that. No, Tim Andersonwas up to bat. The guy was

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up behind home plate. He didn'tsay anything. The all the people who
responded were because your mascot's name Twittercharacter, and that's what he was saying.
And it's so clear by the audiohe said Dinger. It was clear
once you found out that mascot's namewas Dinger if you until that piece of
information was given to me, Iwas like, well that sure sounds like

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mean, look how much they hateOzzie, Willie Gibson, lou all them
hate them. I mean I sawOzzy there just again. Yes, they're
racist. I mean because the immediateresponse to that is, oh so there's
no racism. No, there iseverywhere, of course, and it's not
just Saint Louis. It is everywhere. And you know, sometimes it's not
just racist against this group, it'sracist against that group. People are imperfect

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beings, okay, and there's badones out there. I have a problem
when one guy pipes up right,and then you're gonna label everyone exactly.
But that's just fodder. That's justone fan base looking to make an opposing
fan base look bad like that's comingprobably from NL Central fans or Royals,
and that pisses me off, justlike it happened with with Caudrey. They

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totally There are articles in the DenverPost or whatever talking about how racist Saint
Louis Blues fans were, and theyeven chimed in with David Prong because David
Bron went over there and cross checkedand they tied him in a mix.
David Peran is a racist because hewent after Cadrec he made because the play
he cross checked him. It wasmore of a cross check because he was
pissed because he hurt the damn goalie, and so they tied him in there.

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That pissed me off because of somedumb ass kid in his basement and
they, I mean, dead Spinhas done it before with Cardinals and are
they dead yet? That's been mygod, When when Will Leach was in
charge of it they did that.I don't know the exact timing, but
there's been you could google it.There's guys that have been coming after Saint

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Louis for quite some time. Ourblue seats are right by the visitor's penalty
box. Our section section's usher isalways on high alert. When the visiting
team gets a penalty, always thefans behind the box stand up to chirrup
the penal lives player. Usual,it's minimal, but sometimes it escalates depending
on on f on the player gamesituation. Okay, you can imagine how

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it was during the Cup run.I've seen plenty of fans ejected because a
stupid crap they did. Mostly they'rewatching to be sure no one else tries
to throw something over the glass onthe player. Okay, yeah, I
just I don't know. I mean, if anybody knows it's Jim, you're
in the mix in the crowd,you're doing this, you're doing that,
and you know, if you don'thear it, then that's that's a good
sign. Not saying it doesn't alwayshappen, because it will once in a

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while. But I'd like, again, that's what the response is. You
know, I haven't heard it.Well you're saying it doesn't go. No,
I'm not saying saying I haven't heardit, and then well you might
not be as tuned in listening forNo. No, I am more than
anybody, actually more than anybody,And and I'm not disputing ali because like
I said, I think he's astand up guy that tells the truth.

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Unless he's talking about a player rehabbingand everything. Well, no, he's
a stand up guy. So Itotally sure you heard it. I'm just
saying, I just don't think thatmakes any fan base where you hear that
out to be some sort of groupthat's full of deplorables. Yeah, Oh,
I just I just made a Trumpreference. That's Hillary, isn't it

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aplorable? Deplorable? While I'm back, Congratulations, Man, you're on day
seventy three of the seventy five hardwhich is really really difficult to do,
and you got a couple days ago. My man, how much weight did
you lose? I'm kind of curiouson that, because sure you did if
you're really doing it properly. Man, Cam, what are your thoughts on
this season of Shorzy Gise Lane?I don't know. I didn't really get

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into it, to be honest withyou, I was supposed to be on
that show, but COVID happened.I couldn't get up there. Cam.
What show Shorsy? It's a Canadiancomedy show. It's a spin off to
a letter Kenny, which is areally big show up there and they have
always hockey players coming in. Andit was right during COVID and I'm not
vaxed. Now, I could talkabout that, but I couldn't back then
because I didn't want people to thinkI'm killing other people. But I didn't.

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You put other people's life, We'reright, I did. I did
that, of course, but Icouldn't get across the border unless I got
vax And I told the GM orthe producer up there, I go,
I can't get up there. Sheunderstood. Actually, but I'm not gonna
go get vacs to go to Canadaat this moment. Oh this wait a
little bit in the single blowover.Maybe if you want me now, I
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vaccination to go to Canada. Sorry, I'm not gonna do it. Oh,
Cam, did you hear about thealligator sidings in Bontaire Lake. It's
just a matter of time they migrateto Saint Albans. What Burley get on?
What yourself? Get on your where'sBontaire Lake? No idea? Is
that in Missouri? Well, Bontaireis in Missouri. In Illinois, No,

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it's Missouri. Do you have lakesnear you, Well, I got
the I got the the Missouri River. There's no alligators in a river,
or they're gonna be in a lake. They could mean a river. There's
a lot of tons of alligators andrivers all over the place. It's south,
it's in our south. It's byfarming. They can't survive the winners.
Man here, they can't survive thewinners. So that's there's just no

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way. Maybe there's a pet inthe kind of but it's not going to
survive the winter. They can't.So you're not gonna see it. But
you if you are swimming up theMississippi River, you might get in touch
with a bull shark. Seen thatbefore? You have? No there's there's
sidings of bull sharks up the MississippiRiver. They adapt to fresh water.

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They go up these canals bull sharksand they're aggressive. Well, from what
I hear, if you're swimming inthe Mississippi River, you're dead anyway,
so who cares what takes you out? There are some areas where it pools
up and that's where all the boatsgo and stuff like that, And there's
little sand bars and stuff like that. Absolutely, Oh, just don't jump
out in the middle of the mainchannel because the undertoes will get you.

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Oh, you'll get shredded on arusted out fridge with a big metal piece
hanging on. Or you'll have abarge coming and you've got people on your
boat and your boat's not starting andthe barge is coming right at you.
And if you're close to that barge, that thing's going to suck the whole
boat underneath it. And then peoplewere freaking out and I didn't have it
in gear. I'm like lifted upthe hatch like a depressing like doing things.

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Is everything plugged in back during themotor and I'm like, ooh,
what's going on? It's coming everyhethercam cam get it going. I'm like,
wait a minute, it's not neutral. Ye blah blah, let's go.
Yeah, little things, man,a lot of things you go to
get. Oh, I mean fromhere to the parking lot, mate,
No, a little farther than that. That's close. Yeah, dude,

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that thing's coming up. Like whatdo you do? You can't addle out
of that current either, so wewe die. Uh. My friend went
to Rigouville and a Cardinals jersey gotjumped, robbed, they took his phone
and cash apt five thousand dollars totheir account. Damn really wow, you
know, I mean I once sawthat. Was it late at night?

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Like I mean, dude, there'sso many of these fights that take place,
it's not even worth reporting. Well, you've seen a fight breaks out
in the stands, never seen oneat bush. You see fights a bushta
hum, No, And I don'tsee them at Regly like everybody's happy.
It's a big party spot. I'mnot saying there's fights. I just haven't
seen a lot of that football ifthat could have been when I covered football

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some all the time. In thestands hockey, I would see when the
Blackhawks fans are in town from Chicago, they're always trying to start fights.
But there's a difference between a fightand the stands and getting jumped and robbed.
That was something specific that wasn't likeBoo, you said that about my
team. I bet you these theseguys that jumped them were waiting in the
weeds, saw their park maybe alittle far away, then they jumped them.

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I would say that's probably the case, not like another fan base jumped
them and robbed them. I betyou those two guys that are criminals and
they're waiting for people to leave,and some people get scattered away and they
get isolated, and those guys tookadvantage of it. Yeah, there's a
lot of contexts that goes to allof it. And this team is a
fan of that team. Yeah,Claus said, yeah, that was the

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case. Yeah, and you don'tknow also that could happen after Bush Stadium,
like was gonna fight you and busdat hum. But if you go
out to your car at night,you might get jumped. Yeah. So
they're too busy cheering for the otherteam's pitchers, I mean yeah, so
yeah, Clause said that that's certainlycorrect. Jimmy, you gotta get going,
all right, We're gonna go tobreak. Don't go anywhere. We'll

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