6-26 Segment 6 - Sloppy Seconds: Charlie Tuna joins the show to discuss how the Birmingham game actually made the MLB look bad

Sloppy Seconds: Charlie Tuna joins the show to discuss how the Birmingham game actually made the MLB look bad

Episode Transcript

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Make sure to text hot Take Centralon the Audi Exchange Kirkwood text line to
get in on the conversation with CamCharlie, Jim and Cole on five ninety
the fan. Oh oh I likethat. Yeah, to all the ladies

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in the place with stylin greats.Allow me to lace these Liverpool. It's
just in your push rock grooms andmake moves the back of the club.
That's my gods behind my god.Let you see uh over to podcasts and
music? Yeah, no, Ilike dropa Did you see Snoop running the

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uh sleep racist? The other daywe finished second We took a photo Jackie
John Oh, I want to raiseage fifty two ran five care two snooped?
I did not see that. Snoopdid interesting. That's why you got
to listen at nighttime about different things. I always listened to you, Charlie

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when I'm in my car. I'malways driving around people do and I put
cold to sleep every night. Hedid say that you got a soothing what
you Bill Cosby? No man,he was that's racist too. Why is
that racist? He's an Africa AfricanAmerican. We always got to bring up
racist, Charlie, did it?We always know. I didn't you.

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Actually, the Olympics are not here. No race. You requested a song
by an African American rapper, andI said, that's stereotype. Okay,
what about Eminem What about Snow informer? Yes, Snow? What about uh?
Is it mac Miller? He died? What about the other guy?
What about the other guy? Iknow, the white guy Malcolmore Maclamore?

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Yeah, you see. You seehow big rap is in China? Is
it really you my actual Chinese rappersor our rappers? Our rappers do,
Okay, more whites and foreigners listento rap more than black people. People
don't realize that. And I workedfor iHeart Radio. Also, they tell
me all the time white kids listento more rap than black kids do because

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it's probably more you any well,that's why, because every every black kid
probably listens to rap every certain age. They do our old motown. Yeah,
yeah, okay, one of theother. But it's population is hot.
Take rap was the best? Iscoming from me? I don't know
anything at all. No, rapwas the best in the nineties, and

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it sucks now in my opinion.You're talking about Kool Mold and all those
guns. Yeah, no, I'mtalking about Biggie Upac Dre, Eminem,
Outcast. I loved all them DMX. Now it's filthy, it's nasty.
You know. No, it wasnasty then, but not like it is
now. I want I want tomess with your mom and Chronic two thousand

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and one. I remember playing that. You know, you had your six
disc CD changer. I remember Iremember leaving that CD on. My dad
comes like this into my room.He goes, you left that CD on.
I don't know what the f itwas. Did you hear that song
they're talking about? I mean hestarted, you know, oral sex,

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anal sex, every sex. They'retalking about women's this they're talking. I
mean, he's like, really,you listened to that? Your dad was
up to set. You weren't listeningto his band? Dude? Did he
hear Eminem Chronic two thousand and one? But it was just as vulgar.
But Eminem was talking about all kindsof things I talked about centraally vulgar.

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Well, don't have an advis onsome of the CDs. Yeah, yeah,
he played at Tom Brady's. Ohreally, yeah, he was the
guy he played for Tom Brady.I remember this little little thing side of
CD Man, let's have a littlefun today. What do you got?
What were we gonna talk about?Cole? Oh, I think we have
two topics before we get to ourspecialty third topic. If we get to

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it, so we got can wecan we list them because maybe we think
that it's more interesting than the other? Okay, do you want all of
mar Mall thinks that Cardinals fans aresaying some racist thanks to him? Or
do you want that? JJ Reddickis uh no, No, it's the
Nero League baseball game last week.Oh yeah, I've heard, I've heard
about this. Actually did want toleave with this because Tuna said that he

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was not a fan of what tookplace in Birmingham. Let me let me
explain why. Can we explain why? The reason why? I think it
was fantastic what Major League Baseball didfor the Negro leads. I think it
was unbelievable, too late, butit was wonderful what they did. I
like the way he had the allNegro League players out there. Uh but

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Kendrick, president of Negro League,was on every channel around the country and
Joe, what tell you last week? He was busy, but it said
Charlie, I'm gonna come on yourshow and talk. We talked about and
I mentioned to Bob and I said, it was a bad look for major
League baseball. Everybody, what areyou talking about? Everybody black and white
looked at me, But I saidthat you know why it was a bad

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look for major league baseball? Ibet you can't guess, Well, because
the whole game because black athletes onthe field, Thank you very much.
Well, yeah, that was abad look for major League baseball. He
had Mason win for the Cardinals.I think the Giants only had one black
player and you playing the Negro Leaguegame. It should have been done.

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They should have had the guys outthere for their All Star game and wieled
them out there and talked to thembecause that was a bad look for Major
League baseball players. Bad look andthe fault of this. Don't be telling
me, well, you know,blacks play basketball, not No. They
brought up and let me go,so we got to. So we got
too. And you know the reasonwhy they brought them up. We don't

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have Let me tell you what.Let me tell you what. Everity magazine
years ago used to have a secondand Jet magazine magazine year every year.
This has been years ago. Ofcourse they would have like ten to fifteen
pages of black athletes in Major LeagueBaseball. Now Dominicans or whatever. Now

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it's only one or two pages.And we got to get to that point
and stop using the excuse what blocksonly play basketball? True, but Major
League Baseball goes to camps in theDominican and other foreign countries. They used
to do camps here in the endof Cities. They got to attract more
blocks and baseball. It just justjust gotta happen. But that was a

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bad look. I wouldn't have hadthe game. I would have done what
they did. I would have hadwhat they did at the All Star Game.
It would have been more effective.Then you're want to show, huh,
Jackie Robinson rolling over Its great.Ain't no brothers out down the field
playing. That's what happened again,bring up a brother, but it was

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Charlotte. I have not heard oneperson give that a p You haven't and
I don't. Nobody has any guts. Okay, but they spent they spent
the whole night honoring the Negro leaguesas they should. Great stories, a
great tribute, even though it obviouslyhappened at a great tribute for a week
for for Willie Mays. Great WillieMays. You and I agree. I

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think we'd all like to see moreblack whatever baseball players. Don't you think
that night will help that? Andby the way, it's not the Cardinal's
fault that Jordan Walker's in the minorleagues because he couldn't talking about it.
But even if we had enough hadthe draft to come play, hold on,
listen, listen, I agree withyou. I'd love to see more

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black and players baseball. Can youcome up? We need you today because
you send your black Charlie. Let'sget and this this has nothing to do
This is what I'm about to say, has nothing to do with the color
of their skints. But if JordanWalker and Victor Scott were hitting better,
they would be in the big league. I'm not complaining about that. I'm
not complaining about that, So I'mnot complaining. I disagree. I'm not

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complaining about the corners. I'm complainingabout Major League Baseball attracting more black players.
They are trying, though, howare they the rb I programs and
going on for years. I'm notsaying it's working because they're trying. What's
program. Let me tell you whatbeat some of the fields. Nobody used
to work for that. Chicago,the fields here in Saint Louis, no
one's there. Okay, but theCardinals. You can also rip on the

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Cardinals for a lot of things.But they're always building baseball field. Smith
got one the other day in inurban neighborhoods. I agree with that.
They're always doing that. But theonly thing you just don't put down the
field. You have to do somethingelse, Like what the fields are empty?
What do you think they used tohave fields on? If you're on
the board, what would you sayto them? You got to start.

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You got to set a program upto attract more minorities in this sport.
But don't they do that. They'renot doing it. They're trying. It's
not working. I agree, it'snot working. Not working, So you
got to try something. Okay,But if you're you tell me why a
young black kid they like basketball andfootball? And okay, but know that,

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but well the numbers prove that.Those numbers prove that. But how
do you know Blackstone like that?You remember when you talk about the Willie
Mays and all those players. Okay, we had football, we had basketball
back then, it's not as bigas it is now. How come we
attracted the black stars back in thatera? It was something we were doing

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that we need to go back tothat era because they had camps all over
the United States for blacks. Yougot to go back to grass in order
to do something right. Nowadays,you got to go back to grassroots.
You can't start with what do youthink they were doing? Differently? Can
I say something real quick? Goahead, and this this is no,
no, it's not this will comeacross. Look, let's be real.

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Let's be real about some of thesports in this country that you can make
the the racial argument, but butit becomes a financial argument. And and
in a lot of that's my point. In a lot of cases, if
if on the whole, minority groupshave less money, which which is true
on the whole than white foot Wellokay, but what I'm saying is,

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couldn't we all agree that sports likelet's say, golf, hockey, and
baseball, you need you need somuch more money in those sports. Who
saw who started Section eight? Butyou agree with that white people' that's a
totally different argument. Well, yeah, we still have Section eight, don't
we? Yes, Okay, stillthere was that. Okay, but eight.

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I don't think Section eight is necessarilya bad thing. But I think
the thing but some people from working. Yes, that's the problem is is
all those government programs I think thatare there for good reason. They allow
people to stay on them forever,which which was never which was never the
goal. And it's by the way, it's not good for the people that

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I would think. You don't theyhave eb T. Yeah, some people.
I believe in helping people getting outof a bad spot, but I
think when they're on it forever,that's help those people. Actually it actually
keeps them impoverished, makes it worse, That's what I'm saying. But that
was a different argument. But see, don't you agree that, Like even

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now, dude, I have friendswhere these kids have personal coaches and hitting
as the seven. Look at theseathletic programs around in the city. They
go all over their pro their teams, select teams, soccer, baseball,
they go all over the country andstay for days, which I think is

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tremendous. The AAU programs, whichare not prevalent is what they used to
be. But whatever, But youunderstand, I'm the only one that brought
that up. There's a reason whyI've been on the radio fifty one years
because I'm different. You know,I love you, I'm different. Don't
you think that night was so coolthat anything I wouldn't I just wouldn't take

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that. I think your your overallpoint is one hundred. But that night
they're they're also trying to do theirI don't disagree. I don't disagree.
I'm just pointing out something. Idon't disagree. I would have done a
different way I would have done atthe All Star Game. It would have
more of a better effect. Butit was wonderful. I think they should
do it again. Maybe the morethey do it, maybe it'd be more

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blacks attracted to baseball. Mason Winnsay he's trying to attract more younger players.
I think the fact that you havetwo iconic franchises, you know,
I mean, could baseball like youhave to play these things a year in
advance? Is that MLB going tobe like, hey, Socks have five
black guys and the Padres. Youknow, we need to have it,
you know, but then why notbe on the team traded? Why not?

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No? No, I'm just saying, like the Cardinals and the Giants
are iconic franchises. You had theWillie Mays angle, you had the Cardinals
with the Negro League's angle and theold uniforms. I just thought it was
really cool. Still the greatest baseballplayer to ever breathe, Okay, so
over, Babe Ruth. Willie Mayswas five two, Babe Ruth wasn't.

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But see, you know, Ithink I think Williae May is definitely better
athlete. But I think the factthat Babe Ruth pitched makes it an interesting
How many black people did you pitchedtoo? For like five years old?
If he was hold on, butif he was, I saw swing hit
five twenty seven women. Hold on? How many blacks? How many blacks
did he pitch too? Can youput up like a zero egg or something

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from it? That's true? Howmany blacks are playing when? But Babe
Ruth and Bob Kendricks of the NegroLeague did say Babe Ruth may have been
responsible for negroes getting into Major leaguebaseball. I'm serious. So this is
discussion. At least when I comeon here, I'll bring up things that
every other pilture won't do. Becausemost black people that own white people stay

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co hosts. They're afraid to saysomething like this, they may get kicked
off the show. Like I've beenkicked off for two or three shows.
Have we got anybody? How manywhite guys have you heard get kicked off
for shows? But it's oh mygod. Everybody I worked at five night

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he got kicked off his show becauseof what they said. Hold on there,
if you were a six year oldwhite guy, you're losing a lot.
Yeah, a lot of them deservedyou. Yeah, but there was
a there was a movement. Thereare a lot of Uh. I feel
like every day there was a newkind of sixty five year old white ceo
that stepping down. You got wegot two white men, old white man

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having a debate tomorrow night. Butquickly, I want to talk about more.
Mom. You guys didn't agree.I did some investigation. He has
heard racial slurs, and I don'tknow why you guys don't believe. We
didn't say we didn't believe him.Was always said, was we don't hear
it that much? Jimmy the caatHayes, who's there, every single George

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George guy? There you go,there you go? What no, no,
no, I'm just our argument wasthat it doesn't happen if one guy
did it. Yeah, he's gonnaanswer that. What's happened before? Jason
Heywood set us out. Jason Heywoodeven told hey man, if you let

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me ask you this, do youthink it's somebody in the stands at Bush?
We're all hanging out, everybody isthere, there's families this and some
guy gets up and says something racistis somebody and people hear it. They're
not gonna be like what kick himout? Get them? No, no,
no, no, I don't believeno. Remember when I remember when
uh what was the guy? Uhwhite hairs I pulled out of? Who

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was the black guy? Shut up? Okay, I'm standing downstairs by the
dugout. So the reason why hegrabbed his crouch is the reason why white
he pulled him out. I'm standingthere not three feet from this little white
girl. She had to be nomore than twelve. She called him to
kept calling them the N word.That's when he grabbed his crouch, which

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was wrong, and that's why whitehe pulled him out. It was so
bad racially in Saint Louis. Thenthe man had to go buy a Volkswagon
Super Beetle to drive around town.This is what he was that. It
was stills the bad here. Theywouldn't take your picture. They would put

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it on Twitter and they'd say,go get this guy. They would.
They would look up where he works. They'd call his owner fired, talking
about get speaking of black and Ilook at that bad boy. Look at
that right there too, talking aboutAli a Dominican, Dominica, Dominica.
I don't know, he said.First of all, listen, I didn't

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read the article. Okay, I'ma NASCAR guy, now, all right,
there's a lot of diversity in Nascar. They have and Daniel Suarez Benjamin
No, listen, but okay,but you guys always have a damn exc
always him on, get him onagain. I'm not even on the show
except for Hey, when I gethim on, I don't want other guests

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to take my airtime. That's right, he had them. What are you
going to be on again? Listen? I believe Ali. Why would he
lie? I believe him to thething. It happens every game. But
has he probably heard five comments?Sure, you're on social media. I
mean, come on, why wouldhe lie? Yeah? I agree with
you, but but I'm just saying, oh, don't happen. No,

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it doesn't happen that often. Youcould. You can't be that way in
front of a group of people.They will go crazy, they'll do and
rightfully. So this is not theeighties anymore, man like and we just
worst in the eighties with that.Dude, it's worse than you could barely.
You could barely. You get worsethan the eighties racism. Yeah,
you get worse. You'll get firedfor I will never up. It's worse

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than the eighties. It gets better, It worse better, in my opinion,
every day. What about its worse. Young generation doesn't care as much.
What about it is worse, justthe whole scenario. And it started
with when Trump got office. Hedivided so bad. Now we got a
presidential debate that was that was avery way. I like that. That's

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the Now we got to watch twoold white men who America Black and White
show? This is all we got? Yeah, that is it? Hey,
a younger white guy intact see justnine white woman Cornell West black man.
I mean they might get point twopercent of the vote. Yes,
yes, oh Mann owns you mentionedher. Next she's are you excited for

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the debate though. No, I'mwatching the be A draft. Brother.
The French guy is going to benumber one two different days though. Isn't
the NBA Draft tonight same night?No tomorrow night. I believe it's a
two night deal though, two nightdeal. What is the NBA draft?
Yes? The first round one O. They split it up now, I'm
pretty sure. I don't know.The second round is not guaranteed money?

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The first round is only people getguaranteed in the NBA Draft. On the
second round, I think, uh, international players, that's not fair.
Check it out taking jobs from USAmerica. The number one, but the
number one, number one high schoolplayer in the county last year was a
white guy. Cooper Flag. CooperFlag? What going to do? This

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guy is unreal? What the seventhA nine guy from Florida. Yeah,
I saw him. He's going toFlorida. M seven foot nine, just
stands up and just dmped the ball. But he can move like you see
that highlights him. He's like movingaround. I heard him. That guy
was six foot one at eight yearsold. That's crazy. That is crazy.

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It's hard not to dominate. Makeyour parents some money, Yeah,
that's what you're saving money or makethe money, or tell your mom a
house, make them come to thecar house, make them comfortable, make
your parent they brought the reason whyyou here. See a lot of athletes
help them my parents, a lotof them don't. Well. A lot
of other parents take a lot oftimes some parents take advantage up. Does

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an athlete owe something to his communityafter he leaves? Sure? Yeah,
yeah? Do you agree that SaintLouis should have a parade for by talent
the coach of no Jason Tatum?Yes, no, they should have a
parade downtown Saint Louis for all thatNo, yes, battle hawk coming in

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for no, No, Charlie,No that ain't want nothing? Why not
that one celebration that ain't want nothing? No, ain't celebrate You give them
all the Tatum Jason Tatum, Matthewcould chuck teammates in high school? What
a bigger story in that the shamanadwe're not having to parade, But then

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they need to have parade. Hereis a champion. If it was for
Frank Cus and Mona, you wouldn'thear anything on TV about him. Don't
tell about him. They talked abouthim all the time. Not so locally.
We don't. I'm watching it everysingle morning locally. How many times
have you seen him on that?How many times have you seen we covered?
How many times? I literally wantyou to Milwaukee. I went to

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Milwaukee Bucks game his rookie years tocover exactly. I want to win the
championship. I'm talking. Did youcover him this year? Video from you
go there this year? NASCAR?Did you cover this year? Did I
call him? What do you mean? I don't do that? I'm talking.
He was they were talking about onChannel two guy Frank Kusmano. The

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only one that did. Frank's crazywas the only one. He's the only
one. That's the only one.Man we got to go. That'd be
so losery of Saint Louis? Isthat God? Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Celebrate, okay, we celebrate whatyou got, man, celebrate it's great.
That means that'd be like, hey, haters, here's a city,
here's a city. He lost.We've lost two we've lost two football teams

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there. We lost the NBA teamhere, and we've lost the baseball team
years ago. We lost a lotof a lot of teams here. Man,
celebrate what you got, agreed,But that's not what you got.
Those guys won championships everywhere else.How come they celebrate you know what they're
from here? They I know itwas a team. I know it was
a team, like twenty five manteams, and we're selecting the one guy

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from Saint Louis Are. They're thesuper They're from the same high school and
they won championship. With the nationalstory of each other. They talk about
them every damn day. The blueJack, we're not having it. We're
not having a freaking parade. BlueJack all you call should have in parade
because they're former Vestent winner, finallygot a championship. We gotta go.

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Who's parade next? Tune up?Thanks for coming in, Charlie, I
love you, Cole. We'll seeyou tomorrow. Franki's up next. I'll
take such a five mini fan andfive mint f dot Com