September 1, 2025 • 53 mins
In this episode, Psycho4081, Lamb Chop and Felonious Feather dive into one of the oldest and most controversial questions out there: Are psychics and astrologers the real deal—or just really good at reading people? From palm readings to horoscopes, tarot cards to birth charts, millions of people turn to the mystical for guidance. But how much of it is rooted in truth, and how much is just clever guesswork? We explore psychic claims and astrological predictions, talk about why these practices remain popular, and examine scientific studies that have tried to prove—or debunk—them. We also share personal stories, listener experiences, and challenge a few assumptions along the way. Whether you're a hardcore skeptic or a die-hard believer, this episode will leave you questioning what you think you know.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You're listening to the Hot Topics Podcast with Psycho One,
Lovely Lazy Lamb Chop, and the fabulous Colonnius Feather. Let's
get into it.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Fabulous exactly heard? I did know it was a skip.
It was a little exactly it was a little skip
I heard it was I was listening this time. Okay,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to another episode of Hot Topics Podcast.
I'm here with my two lovely co hosts, who obviously
have dementia.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
From from two seconds ago.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, so today we're gonna have a different type of discussion.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Okay, so I always have a different.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
This discussion was actually inspired by the fabulous Felonious Feather.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Okay, you got it write this time. But I'm telling
you a little skip on that intro.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Man, hold on, you know she's saying I said fabulous wrong,
not the skip.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It sounded like you were about yeah, yeah, about to
make a mistake, and then you.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yes, maybe I was gonna think of a different word.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So anyway, that's the subject we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
We can talk about psychics and astrologers.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
So why did I inspire them?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Because you're a superstitious person here Okay, you know you
were believe in witchcraft, and right, so that's what we
should have had we talked about witchcraft. That would have
been cool.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Well, we can always add that to the rotation. But yeah,
so is that your fault? Oh, that somebody's joining in all?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I mean, let me let me uh okay, here we go,
had to meet. So we're gonna talk about astrology and psychics.
Astrologers and psychics, and I know all three of us
have some type of belief in astrology in some way, right, okay,
(02:00):
because we always talk about how certain astrological signs behave
in a certain way, and for some my reason, they
always say it's for entertainment purposes only. But that's some
truth to that. I don't know why or how whatever,
there's some truth to that.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I got that today, you got, oh okay, So we're
gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
So I got some questions and I pulled up the
information for it, because neither you and I or I
are experts in this whole at all, you know, And
I couldn't locate any psychics and they weren't psychic enough
to say I needed them.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
We have psychics everywhere, like there's an app or something
that I did one time and then they were going
to give me free readings.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Of Yeah, but that's that's they have online stuff I'm
talking about like the actual.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, and you know they have I think they have
one on Liberty root or something like that. Yeah, yeah,
they used to be on Liberty. Yeah. I don't Yeah,
ask questions next time.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You know. They psychic They know I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
For them, so I want to other people, No, just me.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I'm in their vicinity. Okay, So all right, I'm gonna
go with questions basically on definitions and understanding about things.
So people don't know the difference between you know, astrology, cosmology,
all that type of the type stuff and psychics. And
I don't even know what you call the subject. You know,
psychics do what.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Psych Yeah what would what would that their verb be? Like? Yeah,
what would that action work? See us?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Okay, well see it's a little different, I think close.
So when you say psychic or astrologer, are they the
same thing? What'd you think?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Psychic is like a person that can see you untail
by and just tell stuff about you based on sometimes
they use cards.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And astrologers do the same thing, right they do.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I've never met that nostrology before. It's mostly psychics more
common than astrologist. So, but how many psychic patronized?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, no, be sure how many?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Which doctors?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Look, don't estimate her over there? Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Okay, So there is a difference. Is that what you're
saying is, I don't know. I'm like a complete novice
on this.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay. So the main difference is, and I'm gonna read
it what they say. The main difference is one of
them has like an innate ability, right, and the other
one has things that they're just looking at their finding information.
Which of them is that the psychic? The psychic has
the ability right says. Psychic is clean to have extra
sensory perception ESP, which is me allowing them to receive
(05:11):
information beyond the five senses, like seeing the future or
communicating with spirits. So I don't communicate with spirits, butlack
and sometimes I can see the future.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Right, Okay, Okay, you don't think. The whole time I've
known them, I never knew that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Astrologists, on the other hand, use the positions and movements
of celestial bodies Okay, okay, planet stars to interpret human
behavior and predict future events.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I think astrologists will be more like the ones the
Indians us to check compatibility and stuff they use like
Neptune the stars start on your star Indian as an
Indian people, not Native American. No.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
From austrology is more of a structured system. Psychic abilities
are more intuitive or supernatural.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Okay, So.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Even with the how they use the celestial bodies there,
I think that's a science to that as well. Because
if you look at certain things in human evolution under
certain astrological age, which is I think twenty five hundred
years somewhere around here. Yeah, so like the Age of
Aquarius might be twenty maybe it's twenty two five hundred
(06:30):
and twenty five something like that. It's over two thousand years.
So during that age and during the Age of Pisces,
certain things happen. So the Age of Pisces are supposed
to be the age of religion and spiritual awakening.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well, that's why I'm psychic.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So what happened during the Age of Pisces you're telling.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Me, Yeah, you need to tell us. We don't know.
Stop looking at us like we know.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I said, all the major religions happened during that time.
During that age, you know, and then the Age of Aquarius.
And it's funny because they go backwards. So we're in
the age of Pisces right now. Yeah, yeah, and we're
going we're transitioning into the Age of Aquarius. This is
the dawning of the Age of Aquarius.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Why is it Aquarius?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
No, we're going backwards. You go backwards, So Pisces Aquarius backwards? Okay, Capricorn,
you know whatever. So in the Age of Aquarius is
the age of science and technology. And look what's Look
what's going on now? Ai AI genetic code, you know,
mapping the genome. So it does to me. I think
(07:46):
it has some validity to it, you know, and this
is something that we will probably never understand. Interesting though.
Very Now let's let's go in, Lamb Chop. You are
a Sagittarius, I am with all you've heard about the
sagittarian woman. How accurate would you think that is?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Very?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Very like a percentage? Let's say, okay, and Bilonius, you
are a Pisces. How accurate would you say that what
they say about the Pisces women? Are you.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Me or generally yeah? For me? Pieces, yes, a lot
of it?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Like what percentage would you say, be able to give
a percentage.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
So most of the times I think you might be
some type of way based on astrology, but your your upbringing,
your whatever. Can just because they keep saying pieces or pisces,
they cry whatever. No, I don't cry someff like that
(08:56):
like that emotional or in la la world or you
know what I'm saying. So no, So half the time
it's like it's maybe stuff you did as a kid
or something like that. But as an adult, I have
learned to like out grow stuff like that, you know
what I'm saying. So I would not really classify myself.
Every time I see that, he annoys me because I'm like,
(09:17):
I'm not like that. I don't even want the land
or Lala land, you know. So yeah, part of it,
a lot of it is accurate. You know, Yes, we
are psychic. They call a psychic to call us the witch. Really,
I don't think I've never heard yes people yes, so
like we know, not me.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I'm just saying people have.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
No in the sense that we always have this sixth
sense sense and all of that kind of stuff. We
always know, we always have this feeling like psychic feeling,
and yes, but then you come to see that there's
somebody that I know that was born on the same
day as me. We have some similarities, but we are
not you know who. Yes we are we to say
(10:01):
my own yes, I'll do. Like so anyway, as an aquarian, man,
I want to get with your percentage?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
What your percentage of?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
What of? How do you how do you think it is?
I will say about eighty five eighty five?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Okay, Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Man, you think it's one hundred, you think it's one hundred.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I think it's like ninety percent.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You know your son is also pieces.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Because it yes very emotional people.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'm not emotional.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Thor Light needs coming.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I was what I was like, why was he calling
for Thor?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I just I just know she did not say she
is not an emotional person.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Okay, anyways, yeah, let's let's get to Okay, you're not
going to well I told him now today I had
him one on one with another Aqueries and they're just
like I like, yeah, Like, I'm like I'm reading, I'm
just looking at two pieces or something in the puzzle,
two different pieces of the puzzle, and I'm like I'm
(11:12):
gonna say equal equal, stingy, yes, everything. Yes, the same aligning, aligning,
But then I'm like, how everything aligning not stingy, practical
boom boom boom boom, the same, the same way he is,
Like I'm looking at and I'm like, oh my god,
oh my god, this is real. And and I have
to say him and my husband have a lot of
(11:33):
similar Yeah, so yes, yes quiens, yes, but then the
other part will be some are kind of reserved, but
he's not reserved.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Reserve.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, my husband is a reserved he is he's social
compared to him. Yeah right, so no, you're not as
person not reserved like you talk. If a Martian came
down today, he will walk over to the com That's
what I'm you know what's funny the person he spoke
(12:07):
to today that is saying like that's how he is.
He'll walk up to he'll go and talk. And he's
also some also some he's my friend because he's also
a helper. He can go any for anybody. And so
so that's I'm like, both of them are just like connected.
Then my brother, my younger brother, my younger brother is
also an aquarium, but he's reserved. He's normal. He will
(12:30):
talk to you only after he has really gotten used
to you. You know what I'm saying, not you, Yes,
I just get used to people faster instant. No, he's
more reserved, and then he would warm up to you
as when you have stuff to talk about. And everything
he does well, they have similarities of not calling, yes,
(12:52):
but but he will call you. But then when he
calls and I'm like, it's just us coming to what
are you calling me? Like you said this yesterday and
I called you said today, call you know what I'm saying.
So it's like that, And then I'm like, you're calling
me wow. So he's he's trying to walk on, work
on himself a little more. You know what I'm saying,
(13:14):
Like okay when I say when I complain about stuff
like this, like okay, you said this, So I'm trying
to do you know what I'm saying. So he spoke
to him the other day and then he's more reserved
than him. But the president he spoke to today another
Aquarius that my younger brother is a twenty third, he's
this twenty second. The one he spoke to today's twentieth.
So my is my younger brother is kind of in
(13:38):
between his reserve, but he will talk right in those stuffs.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
But you know what, you you might see him in
a different light, like so you're exposure to him might
be different when he's out.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
But but I'm saying, but I put both of you
on a call too, and he was he was talking,
but he was kind of still reserved. Comp no competitive.
Who he spoke to today, Oh yeah, yeah, what I'm saying, So.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
He's I think I think as a prized him because
I knew something about him already.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
The one he spoke to today, Well, what you know
something already, doesn't it doesn't matter. He's going like you.
So he has that kind of So so sometimes I
feel like they have different they can't be more. Some
people that are more of the of being one thing, yes,
(14:25):
and then some people like the reserve part of it.
You know what I'm saying. I'm looking at myself and
my older brother, and he likes to wake up earlier
and get stuff done. I'm not that person.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh you as a one day apart, right.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, I'm not that person. Definitely not that person. He's
more so he's more tough, tough guy, but he has
a good hurt. But I'm more I'm not tough. I'm
more emotional and more I care about people, and he
doesn't want people in his space that block people, black
(15:00):
people out. But if you get close to him, it's
actually good and he would help you out or whatever.
But you have to really break his walls get you know,
But I'm very easy.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It says. Aquaris typically are pretty reserved in personal matters.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Not you, okay, your your personal like but not generally. Yeah,
not generous, So not generally. Why are you trying to
just claim reserves be reserved reserves? Two people?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Let me see you. The only thing I'm gonna say,
I'm a I'm a ninety eight percent accurring. I'll tell
you the two percent that I am not. Okay, So
acquorrans are supposed to be flashy.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Dressers, yes, and my husband is very much so you
are not.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I am not.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Oh they said the addresses. Yeah, yeah, that's my two
percent that I am not exact. So they have some
some that are one hundred percent of being that some
of some of them just like everything. But let's let's
try Let's try it out now and then read something
about what that's like. Ninety ten percent is like that.
They're athletic and outdoorsy and I'm neither one of these. No,
(16:06):
so my supervisor December people, right, yeah, my supervisor. She's not.
She doesn't have friends, she's by herself. She she likes
to work. I don't think you like to work with
she likes to work, work work now, No, no, no,
she what else that could be?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
That could be?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
She could be a caprical that could be sanitarious. She's Oh,
she's not, she's Caprica that plambers second. No, that's right. Yeah,
so I know that. Yeah, so I know. So yeah,
let me see. Let me actually, let's that was sagitari.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
No, no, because we're not talking about I.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Just want to see. We're just trying to see. We'll go.
We'll go. Don't worry, we'll go. We'll get to your sign.
You're up next. Terious woman. Yeah, I'm definitely not athletic.
I'm definitely not outdoorsy. I don't want to have any
parts to any of that. So independent and free spirited
she is, are you?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yes? And then I'm gonna speak for her. Okay, from
from the.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Outside, honest to a fault. She has no interest in
she got quoting the truth, true, naturally curious and intelligent.
My supervisor is curious.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
She's curious.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I'm so bad. That's what I have to feel like.
I say that all the time. I'm not a violent person, y'all.
It's him.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Oh my god, it's violent.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Optimistic and energetic, yes, playful and immorous yes, okay, honest, honest, adventurous.
Are you adventurous? No? No? No, no, optimistic, funny, philosophical,
philosophical sense of humor, wild, can be curious, yes, direct
(18:04):
and honest.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Are you honest?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yes? I am honest? Flirting, I don't awkward? Okay, let's
go to Okay, let's see red flags forgits women. They
are flicky. No, I don't think. I'm like and decisive,
can't make up the man lying? I don't think the
(18:28):
manipulative two faced? Oh no no, the red flags Sorry
for the other person is like, yes, I'm sorry, yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes,
that's true. Okay. Sagittaria so hard to love. They're hard
to what they had to love? Why they are they
(18:48):
to love? Because loving the Sagittarius is filled with adventure
and spontaneity, but their free spirited nature presents challenges such
as fear of commitment, blonde honesty, predictability, emotional distance and
a strong need for freedom. Yeah, I can I can
see some of those. Okay, let's see.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I don't see. I don't see the fear of commitment thing.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I may not be married a hundred years, that might
not be Yeah, aquarious man.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
So why do people believe in psychics and astrology?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Because it just makes you want to see something like
something out of the ordinary, you know, something like your
day to day stuff or explanations about stuff that happened
around you. Things you know.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I would definitely definitely the curiosity and explain and explain.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, yeah, definitely explain. So an aquarious man is typically independent.
They have to say this word intelligence.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah they misthrot that's super intelligent.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Innovative, and humanitarian. I can say that definitely. Often characteristic
characterized by their forward thinking ideas and desire for social change.
Their social charismatic and excel in group settings, but also
value their personal space and freedom, sometimes appearing detached or unpredictable,
(20:27):
while they can be rebellious and resistant to tradition. Definitely
everything Christian, yeah yeah, ye yes, yea. They also appreciate
structure and have a strong intellect intellectual core, often leading
to logic over emotion. I will say that, yes about
(20:48):
yes yea who is key describing sound like regal, like
god like gee key characteristics independent and freedom loving, intellectual
and program assive, social and charismatic, unique and eccentric. Definitely eccentric. Yeah, yeah,
I agree, rebellous and entire authority. I agree to because
(21:10):
it causes either he's the president of the country or
his bosses or whatever. Yes. Yes, definitely humanitarian and idealistic. Yes.
M potential challenges emotional detachment definitely challenge, is a challenge
for someone who wants to be emotionally attached. Yes. Unpredictability,
(21:33):
dismissiveness definitely. You dismiss me all the time. She made
them very clear.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You might, you might.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You dismiss me all the time.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
You might assume.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, no, that's what that's our last fight, our last fight.
Because he dismissed me. Yes, he said, and I quote
what did he say? Woman? Woman? Do you need today?
Do you need tomorrow? No, He's gonna come, exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I said.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I would not doubt that at all. That sounds exactly
like you, exactly, Like, all right, so we're gonna do
hers the last one. In relationships, friendship, first, he said, yeah, yeah,
he has said that. Or did you have to first
for a relationship? Yeah, I'm surprised.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Are you sure you didn't go I've never seen that before.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Are you sure? Yeah? So he says in relations relationship
friendship first, intellectual connection and subtle affection. So yeah, I
can affection. So while she's looking for pisces, our answer,
what was the question?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Why do people believe in?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Okay? And like she said, I feel like they want
to know something that they can't explain, like or they
feel like maybe somebody can see ahead of them and
give them information of what's coming next for the future.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I think I think it's a way. It's a discovery basically,
you know, learning yourself. And also, you know, people like
to say this person's a virgo, this person's a sagittariust
whatever I can find out about them easier than you know,
or tread lightly with certain people.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
You don't. You still don't tread likely around me. You
don't know, you don't you out all out, you go alone.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
You're very emotional.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I'm not very emotional. Okay, let's listen.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And don't be skipping the words.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Okay. Pice is one is typically characterized by such trick
as empathy, creativity, compassion to put ead a dreamy and
a dreamy spiritual nature. I'm not dreamy. She's often sensitive.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Ding ding ding ding Do we have any special effects?
Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Ding ding ding ding generous and highly intuitive. So that's
why I keep saying, like the psychic path, I get
the generous part whatever, able to sense others emotions and needs. However,
her deep emotional A deep emotionality can also make her vulnerable,
and she may struggle with certain boundaries, sometimes leading to
(24:36):
being taken advantage of, which is true because I try
to see the good in everybody. I feel like what
sho would be bad? Like I'm good, Like I don't
think I give people second chances. You know what I'm saying.
It doesn't take me. I can give you a long
grope with why snap, But then you might think you're
taking advantage of me. But I'm just being kind to you.
You know what I'm saying, bet you then I break.
(24:58):
I'm like, you know what, I'm done with this, and
then when I'm done, I'm done, like I don't look
back because you're sensitive, so continue. So yeah, sometimes leaning
to being taken advantage of. Her artistic and romantic sensibilities
are strong, but she can also be idealistic or realistic
and sometimes struggle with reliability. I don't think so. I
(25:21):
don't think I'm not.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I don't think most of that stuff doesn't. I don't
think most of that stuff describes you, honestly, except for
the sensitive part you just said.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I was generous, creative. Her beautiful outfits are a way
of besides the outfit I'm created.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Maybe I haven't seen the creative part because I've never
seen you create the creative and cooking or so.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I'm not compassionate. No, Oh my gosh, did you really
say that. I don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I don't believe you are not. I don't believe you're not.
You're not. I'm not you're one of the your You're
if if they had a bar. He's just mean on
this side, I think so to compassionate. On this side,
you have sympathy, empathy, sympathy, yeah, but compassionate.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Nah, I don't know me. Then I'm surprised you don't
know me. But anyways, key traits empathetic and compassionate women
are deeply attuned to so I'm reading that part out
for you, okay, to their emotions, to the emotions of others,
often acting as a supportive and caring friend of Hamily Man. Wow. Wow,
(26:44):
so I'm not that Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Did you? Did you? Did you have any sympathy or
compassion for my needs?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
What has always gotta be about you?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I'm just saying, that's the only thing I can say.
Did you know when I was when I was in need?
Did you come forward?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yes? I okay, So let's get you. I'm gonna yeah,
I'm gonna give him another one when you're going to
New Jersey. Oh you did?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
You're right? Okay, I take that back.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Oh wow, because you're selfishly think about yourself. You only
think about yourself. That's why you said I'm not compassionate anyways, intuitive,
dreamy and idealistic, sensitive and vulnerable, wealth whatever, because behavy, Yeah,
(27:34):
behavioral tendancies, selfless, generosity. I know that.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I would say that because you're a gift giver to
you like to give gifts? Talking about is that what
they're talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Selfless? Being selfless, selfless, you give up yourself. Yeah, why
why are you not mentioning gifts?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Because you give up yourself. Sometimes that's how people show it.
They give gifts.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
People pleasing exactly. I keep trying to please him and
displease myself. I don't know why you keep trying to
make yourself crazy. I know adaptability, yes, yes, which is bad.
Adapt to whatever situation, adapt to other's energy. She also
needs her alone time to recharge and cope with the
emotion she absorbed from others. When people around me are
(28:23):
I don't like it because I take all their their energy. Yes, yes,
good or bad? Yes, yes, that would be over sometimes. Yeah,
my sister is and she's not nice. I'm not gonna
say she's not nice. I'm gonna say that she's about
hair for the stuff that is, I'm gonna leave it there. Well, yeah,
(28:43):
that's what I'm saying. I'm saying the other person too,
that that was that we were born on the same day. Definitely,
maybe to her family and mouth, maybe to her own
immediate family. Extending towards others outside, yeah, maybe in her
family setting like our close relations, maybe, but not to
others outside. You know, she's definitely stingy, very very stingy.
(29:08):
For I'm saying thats and definitely just half of those
things and I'm like, yeah, that was just given an
example of somebody that could be some of them. I'm
like somebody that we were born on the same day,
and it's nothing like me. I'm saying. She's very stingy. Yeah,
you know, right exactly, and she is very hard work,
(29:31):
and she is that person that will get up at
the crack of dawn and be wherever she needs to
be and get stuff like that done.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, angles are like that too.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah I'm not that person.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I'm not, just says. People seek meaning, comfort, and guidance,
especially in uncertain times. Psychics and astrology can offer a
sense of control or explanation, Like you guys said, Some
also find it entertaining or therapeutic. Cognitive cognitive biases like
confirmation bias also plays a role. People tend to remember
(30:01):
hits and forget the missus. So we'll say, all right,
all the things that.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
See, I don't want to know ahead, I don't want
to know ahead, I don't. I don't. I don't want
to know anything about me losing somebody ahead of time,
any of those things. I don't. I don't want to
know ahead. If you're gonna tell me, I hit the
lottery then now I would want to know.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I would want to know a head when it comes
to people like who am I dealing with?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
You know, you're enough who you're dealing with. I had
a lot of missus, you know, Yeah, but don't have life.
That's that's life, and it's gonna teach you some lessons.
Those misses definitely teach you some lessons correct that this is.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, Now do you think there's any scientific basis for this?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
It's got to be some somewhere. It's got to be
some somewhere. I feel like the astrology with the moon
and the stars, like farmers use all of that stuff
for crops and things like that, so it's got to
be some kind of scientific thing somewhere, so that that.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Part is scientific. Because the moon has a has a
pull and it you know obviously when you we call
it when you do harvests or whatever, it has the
effect on water, right, So.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
You got to plant a certain time and you gotta
harvest a certain time. So I think all of that
has some basis and science, But I don't don't about.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Behavior, Like when we talk about astrological behaviors or personality traits,
how does that can you think of anything scientific that
might have.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Affected Yeah. No, listen, I've worked in healthcare all of
my career and some kind of and it's usually mental
health or substance use. And every single time it was
a full moon, we would be like, oh, ship, it's
a full moon and it's gonna be crazy. And every
single time it has been like and every you know,
even when we were just like nobody's gonna mention it,
(31:58):
We're gonna come in here, we're gonna work. Something goes off,
you know, somebody goes you know, that's.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
The origin of lunatic full moon. Yeah, the moon learnar
expect on a person. But I'm gonna say the scientific
this is my thing, my thinking. Right, So if you
look at the whole universe and let's let's say our
galaxy in general, and you look at all the different things,
is like a clock, well all these missing not missing
(32:25):
moving parts, and everything really connects to another thing, whether
it be there, their gravity, their effects. You know, everything
is connected. I think and even even right now, like
you know, say a star exploded, everything that's you know,
made from this mean from you, not saying from you,
(32:46):
what is it that's that you're made of? Is from
the beginning of the universe. You know, it's because it
wasn't just created. So I think the the connection between
things in the in the you know versus influence is
still there. We just don't know it. So when they say, okay,
the we're in the the cusp of this and whatever,
(33:10):
I do think that makes a difference. I think there's
certain influences that happen.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
You know, we just say all the time, my moon
and stars are on the line when my day ain't
going right. So yeah, I think things definitely, that's the part.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
How about Oh, now, psychics, Yes, I definitely I am
a I am a believer insight. Now, I ain't talking
about the ones that is in the front of the store.
I'm talking about now, I'm not talking about I'm talking
about people who actually get these feelings, that can that
can see the future, that can you know, feel how
(33:45):
you know you're feeling, you know, things like that, you
know how the connection between twins that could be on
different parts of the world. Yes, I think that is
a scientific phenomenon that I think we just don't understand. Now,
even when you talk about what's the thing called we
have two particles that quantum entanglement. Right, So when you
talk about quant quantum entanglement, where you know what affects
(34:09):
it over here, right, you know, instantly affects us over here.
I think since we're all made it of the same things,
I think that has a lot to do with it.
I do think you can. And then you got to
also think about too, like maybe we might be even
in a cycle.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I kind of think that I kind of cycled over
and over and over. Yeah, I kind of think that there.
I feel like that's where your dejavou come in. Yes,
you know that stuff like that you give you, like,
I think scientific explanation for dejav they had it. It
was called something like a shadowing or like almost like
an echo that you that your brain does. That's what
(34:46):
they said something. But yeah, I definitely think that's real.
I definitely think.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, my personal opinion, like I think everything in this
universe is basically unknown science and known science, so either
we just don't know it yet.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
That's a good way of looking at it. That's definitely
a good way of looking at it. And I can
I can agree with I think that there are certain
people who could feel your spirit and and you know,
know that you're having a bad day or whatever like that.
I'm not sure about the tarot cards and maybe because
I've never really explored it or it was like, no,
(35:20):
I had no interest in learning about it. I'm not
going to a psychic. I'm not you know now, I'm
not doing it. I don't feel comfortable.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Would you do a no?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
No, I would not know what that is when everybody
here you holding and you you know, conjured up somebody from.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You know, it's usually one person who the movie did.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
You saw the movie where where they had this this
stick or some wood or whatever and they was all
together and they conjured up spirits.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Okay, it's usually like one person with the person and
that that brings the spirit to life. And see that's
that's my fear, Like I don't want to be bringing
the wrong spirit, you know, to life. It's just like
I don't know the part that part I don't. I'm
not sure it's real, but yeah, I'm not willing to
find out. I'll say that I don't never did the
(36:17):
Ouiji board when I was a kid, Like, I mean,
I don't miss because you know, I think at some
level people have to believe that this is possible, or
we wouldn't be talking about it today. So I'm not
inviting any spirits. And well, if you're going to invite them,
let them stay here.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Hey, you're all welcome. We have an understanding, understand like,
you know, because.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
They're gonna be a home lesson. It's like, and how
do you pick which is a good spirit which is
not a good spirit? I remember, Yeah, we.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Don't just have an understanding. Like listen, I'm gonna tell
you who if you want to do something to somebody,
let me tell you. Let me point you in the
right direction.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I told y'all when I moved in my house, the
kids was like, your house is haunted, and I was like,
for what I'm paying for this house? They say, y'all
stay over there. I'll be over here, and we're gonna
be good. You know. That's that's how we're gonna work
at it. We're gonna be good. But yeah, I don't know,
and I don't know how Like I said, how do
you pick? And how do you believe the person who
is about psyche? I won't even believe. But then you
(37:30):
have to really tell me stuff about me. You don't
don't ask me nothing, don't just yeah, don't ask me
any questions. Just tell me what you can see about me,
and then I will figure it out. Okay, Then I
go from there and see if it's real.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Let me see, because I'm a psychic. Let me see.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Oh, what's the next question? Yeah, onto the next.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
That read my lips? What about astrology? Has it ever?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Well?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
What about has it ever been proven to work?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
All?
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Right? So they say, most scientists say that it lacks
predictive power. Birth charts consistently predict personality or life events
better than chance. I say, don't. And they said, however,
some psychological effects, like the I don't know what this means,
the horror effect, people seeing vague statements that's highly accurate
make it feel real. So I think that's what it was.
(38:21):
I think one of the scientists said that, like we
you can make a vague prediction or a vague statement
and say, oh yeah, that's me, you know, like or
a creeious. They like music, so if I give you
my birth date, right, and he said, well, he's aquarious,
and most aquarius they like music, so you like music
and this whatever. It's like, okay, well most people do like.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Me, right, So that's that's very vague.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Or you may think she's very generous, right, everybody thinks
that generous, so I can see that way.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I remember somebody telling me that, you know, uh, the
signs aren't like what did he say? He was like,
you have certain personality traits, and just because you read
that on paper, you start acting like that. And I
was like, no, I was acting like this before anybody
ever told me. This is how I'm supposed to act.
That's what he was saying, Like, people tell you because
you're a pisces, this is how you're supposed to act, right,
(39:13):
And then we start acting that way, And I'm like, no,
I don't think that's true. I think you're just born
with certain characteristics and certain personality traits that happened to
fall into these categories.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, but some of them, some of them are like uncanny,
they're accurate, Like yeah, I mean, it gotta be some
something to it. It has to be. I refuse to
believe that even when you know you're describing a certain
person and I'm and we end up having like the
same type of whatever, even down to ailments.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
And not knowing what their sign is, right, right, So
you're right.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
All right, so this is we're gonna talk about the
cultural impact. But are there dangers in believing too much
in psychics or astrology?
Speaker 2 (39:54):
That could be, Yeah, that could be because sometimes you
you I love times people even people use that as
an excuse. I'm prices. That's why I'm prices. That's why
I don't do my work well, I'm prices, or that's
why for bad behavior. So sometimes yes, they do. Some
(40:16):
I can see people going to the psychic and make
a life decision. Yes, exactly, psychic correct correct believing. Some
people believe solely in stuff like this money. They don't
want to Yes, they don't want to live your life
the normal way. They just want the quick way or
to know. But I don't know if doing that, In
doing that, you're going to get the results, you know
(40:39):
what I'm saying, like, how will that change the cause
of your life? You know? So I don't know if
they know everything.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
So I remember there was a daily horoscope.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yes, they still do theirs and I still haven't come
to my phone, just you know, just curiosity whatever.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
And sometimes you look at it and it's like, oh,
you know what that was, right? What kind of day
am I going to expect? Yeah, and then that the
bio orrhythms tells you you're and this is I believe
that people your days go up and down. That I
start thinking about that, it's like, all right, you know
when certain things happen, like, oh, I must be on
a down day. That's my down side, you know, because
(41:15):
just my interactions with other people, I was like, Okay, yeah,
this person told me, no, this person whatever. But yeah,
so you start looking at that, you know, thinking, and
then it kind of confirms in your head.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
But then the yeah, but then also can that's also
like spirituality, you know, Yeah, you didn't bring that into
It's not just science and all these things kind of
like they're like spiritual as well. So that's part of
the bringing the ghosts in. That's part of the that's
you can't just do that. That's not a physical thing
(41:51):
to do. You know what I'm saying. You need stuff
to It's not easy to tell someone's future. It's not easy.
It's not if it was easy, scientists will know what
will happen in the next twenty thirty years, you know
what I'm saying. Well, so I was gonna say, yeah,
that's what I could predict, what's predictive fact, but not
like accurately you know what I'm saying. No, no, no,
(42:13):
one hundred.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
So even right now they can see right now, they
can say, you know, by mathematics, right that a space.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Object is just stuff about space, not about people. About people, Yes,
about people, know they kind of they were not okay,
twenty years a human will change your people would change
this way or whatever. You know what I'm saying. So
it's not about people. It's mostly about the world space.
That's what they know.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
I think. I think most things can be predicted in
a in a certain space, like a not like in
a you know, white in the next ten years, you
can you can say, you can say, in another hundred
and fifty years, you say, will humans look more like this?
They can do that as science. But as far as
having like psychicapability, you know, you can. I think sometimes
(43:00):
it's more like a feeling that you have or that's.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
What I'm saying, Like it's spiritual.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Okay, so you would say spiritual. Some people might say
it might be the sixth dimension that our brains just
can't see, not six s six dimensions, because there's different
dimensions that you know, our brains just don't see, and this.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Person might have that ability, right, so we'll see. Yeah,
I'm never gonna find out we see. Yeah, I'm not
doing that.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Have you ever met someone or you know someone that
had a real psychic or astrological experience? Mm hmm, I
say they claned, yes, mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Now I'm telling you. When she was very young, would
tell us who was coming to the house. She had
no way of knowing.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Oh, okay, so that's coming to the house. That would be.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Everything time. She would be, right, min mine is yeah, dreams,
I say, I say things.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
That's how mine is.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Dreams.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Figure, I have my dreams always. So for me, if
I have a dream, and I joke about this lot,
but if I have a dream, it always tells me
certain things. I just mean, I understand it at the time.
So then really then then later on it's like, oh, okay,
I guess what that meant. Yeah. So it's like, if
you know, if I could understand it at the time
and put things in and you know you're not going
(44:22):
to figure out this is what somebody's telling for the future,
then I think I'd be better off, probably wealthy.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
So probably it's not allowed. Was not allowed with you yeah,
I don't know. I don't know. I think for some
people this is all that they do, and they, you know,
constantly go to these psychics, and at some point I
feel like the psychics is just taking them advanta, especially
(44:51):
when you went to CD. You are in your low
point and you need help and you just need to
hear this, and you just need to hear that to
make you feel better. I'd have to time. They probably
know stuff about you anyway, and then you just make
up stuff to keep going. I mean now in the
age of Google, like, can't you you can go and
learn like stuff about it correct then they think.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
And you predict that you're going to be laid on
your next phone bill when you saw me, you saw
my name up there the link with the camp.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
But if it's like if I if I go to
you want for the first time and I go to
you one on one and you can tell me stuff
about me, I'm gonna believe.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Let's go to a psychic.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
I'm not yeah for yourself, for yourself for yourself. No,
I'll just listen for yourself or I'll do it. I'll
be I'll be the yes. But I don't want your
life to turn upside down because it will affect me
either as affect.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
I mean, I can't watch you. I don't believe in
it first of all, so not not that, not those people.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
But I always also feel like if you put they
can also change what is to come for you searching.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
For stuff because of my because of my beliefs.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Or no, they can also mess with it. You get
what I'm trying to say. So if if I say
you're gonna be a millionaire, so you start spending because
you know the money is coming, is that what you say?
That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying like, okay, yeah,
they're gonna tamper with a certain way your life is.
You know what I'm saying, Your part like this is
(46:27):
how you're supposed to go straight. But when they keep
digging and such.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Believe that your fates are a pre.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, yes I do, Okay, I do. I believe that
that everything, everything that happening to me, was already destined
to have to happen, and then sometimes you can just
derail somehow with other things. All your everything is already
set out for you, but sometimes maybe people you made
or whatever whatever, but it's still part of your destiny.
(46:58):
It's part of your journey sometimes to get to where
you want to go to. You know, so I look
at it, how do you believe It's weird? Because there
are times that I feel like I'm exactly where I'm
supposed to be. You know. There are times like this
is this is right, this is exactly where I'm supposed
to be. But then there are times like when I
got cancer, I was just like, well, why is this
happening exactly? So sometimes so when things like that happen,
(47:21):
I'm like, this is just a this is just a
way for you to be stronger, you know what I'm saying.
It's like things that. So when my mom passed, I'm like,
oh my god, I thought I didn't think I would
last this long. I thought I was going to die
next because she was she was beginning to be like
my God, anything she says goes anything, Like I just
(47:41):
believed so much in her. Like whatever she says, whatever
she says, whatever she prays about, whatever, it's just whatever
she says. You know, more than God. He says, Hey,
you need to pray for this. I'm like, well me,
just do it. You do it, just help, you know, God,
has more. God down says your more do it God
want say you. You know what I'm saying. So it
was just me relying on her solely, and then eventually
(48:02):
she passed and I had to figure these things out myself,
you know what I'm saying. So sometimes I just feel like, Okay,
these things are like just there for you to go
to get stronger, to be able to get to the
part of the points you're supposed to be. You know, agree,
I feel challenge you where I felt that way, but initially, yeah,
it wasn't like that. Yes, So like challenges are like
(48:23):
things that just come your way to just make you
see that, hey, there are things, there are forces in
this life. You're just relaxed. You need to like you
need to buckle up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
I think you look at it this way. You have
a timeline, right, your lifeline, and as you go through it,
you're always having these millions of choices that take you
down different paths, and it's up to you to decide
what path you go. So, like a person that can
predict the future, it's like in Star Wars or go
(48:55):
back to Star Wars, right, you said, because one of
the characters. Anakin was having these dreams, these premonitions, and
he said, Yoda, the little green thing. He said, be
careful of the future because it's always moving, right. So basically,
you might see something in this particular space that's going
to happen, but something else could come in and intervene,
(49:17):
change change it, right. So for me, I think that,
you know, we always have these these choices that we
make in life that can always put us on a
thousand different paths or a million different paths, you know,
And that's I don't think it's I don't think our
things are already laid out.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
But okay, I'll give you. I'll give you something. I'll
give you an example, an instance like things things that
like when in Africa, sometimes in some churches, like when
kids are born born, they predict the future. They will
tell you like elders or no larents, no parents like
(49:56):
the church. Okay, they will predict the the thing. They'll
just predicted. Hey, when this child is then you see
the traits. You see this this when this child is seven,
or when this child is six, look out for this.
This child is going to be this way or this
child is going to be that way. And literally happens.
So he really really does happen. Hmmm. I wish they
(50:18):
could do that, Seriously, I wish they could do that
because I think we could eliminate some things. But the
danger and that is who decides what to eliminate and
how to eliminate. Because you know, if we could get
rid of some of these serial killers, then if you
could predict it, but there are some predictors.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
I'm gonna say even even so, even if you have
a going back to your line, So if you have
a serial killer and let's say we knew that somewhere
down the line that he was going to do X,
Y and Z, but that might change a lot of
other things that kind of could be for other people, right,
so you know, I think it is.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
I'll give you one instance. So this does this guy
in the UK. He he was his mom was my
mom's colleague. So when he was born, they told him that,
they said, hey, your son is going to be famous.
He's going to be famous. This boy was brought to
this world. He's to be famous. And then guess what,
he was famous? But how did he get famous? He
(51:16):
was stabbed? Oh, he was stabbed in the UK. And
then he went viral like then it was a black boy,
Nigerian black boy. And then his colleague stabbed him, and
then I think the the queen or whatever invited his
parents blah blah blah. So he was famous, Like we're
headed to the newspapers everywhere. He was really really famous.
(51:37):
So like sometimes they say these things, you don't really
know what they said. He was famous. You think it's
going to be a good thing, you know what I'm saying,
almost like one of the plots of the books I'm writing,
mister this Man, right, yeah, so stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
One of the things.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, so it's kind of like remember that movie The Butterfly.
So you can't you know, you go back and change
one little teeny tiny thing, it's going to change everything
ahead of that. So sometimes you're like, I don't know
why this has happened to me, But like you said,
it makes you stronger, It gives you some skills, good
or bad. But you know it moves us. It moves
(52:17):
you maybe in the direction you should be going in
all along. So I don't know about the psychic business. Well,
if she goes it, can let us know. Yeah, we
not do one field trip that I'm going to pass on.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
We're all going together. We are not. So you guys
have an opinion about it. I would like to hear
it about psychics. If you ever went to a psychic.
Let us know what are your thoughts and feelings about astrology,
you know, let us know we need worth of today.
We put this word of to day in the middle
of the podcast, anyway.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
Or say it at least once or twice yes before
the Well part of that is we don't think about it.
We don't think about what the words it should be. Star,
all right, that's it works for me. I'm a star. Start,
she was star?
Speaker 1 (53:11):
You know what means?
Speaker 2 (53:13):
It's so, what does it mean? You told me, oh,
I'm a stuff? But that she was? All right?
Speaker 1 (53:24):
Thank you guys for tuning in.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
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You're listening to the Hot Topics Podcast with Psycho One,
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Fabulous exactly heard? I did know it was a skip.
It was a little exactly it was a little skip
I heard it was I was listening this time. Okay,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to another episode of Hot Topics Podcast.
I'm here with my two lovely co hosts, who obviously
have dementia.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
From from two seconds ago.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, so today we're gonna have a different type of discussion.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Okay, so I always have a different.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
This discussion was actually inspired by the fabulous Felonious Feather.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Okay, you got it write this time. But I'm telling
you a little skip on that intro.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Man, hold on, you know she's saying I said fabulous wrong,
not the skip.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It sounded like you were about yeah, yeah, about to
make a mistake, and then you.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yes, maybe I was gonna think of a different word.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So anyway, that's the subject we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
We can talk about psychics and astrologers.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
So why did I inspire them?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Because you're a superstitious person here Okay, you know you
were believe in witchcraft, and right, so that's what we
should have had we talked about witchcraft. That would have
been cool.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Well, we can always add that to the rotation. But yeah,
so is that your fault? Oh, that somebody's joining in all?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I mean, let me let me uh okay, here we go,
had to meet. So we're gonna talk about astrology and psychics.
Astrologers and psychics, and I know all three of us
have some type of belief in astrology in some way, right, okay,
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because we always talk about how certain astrological signs behave
in a certain way, and for some my reason, they
always say it's for entertainment purposes only. But that's some
truth to that. I don't know why or how whatever,
there's some truth to that.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I got that today, you got, oh okay, So we're
gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
So I got some questions and I pulled up the
information for it, because neither you and I or I
are experts in this whole at all, you know, And
I couldn't locate any psychics and they weren't psychic enough
to say I needed them.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
We have psychics everywhere, like there's an app or something
that I did one time and then they were going
to give me free readings.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Of Yeah, but that's that's they have online stuff I'm
talking about like the actual.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, and you know they have I think they have
one on Liberty root or something like that. Yeah, yeah,
they used to be on Liberty. Yeah. I don't Yeah,
ask questions next time.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You know. They psychic They know I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
For them, so I want to other people, No, just me.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I'm in their vicinity. Okay, So all right, I'm gonna
go with questions basically on definitions and understanding about things.
So people don't know the difference between you know, astrology, cosmology,
all that type of the type stuff and psychics. And
I don't even know what you call the subject. You know,
psychics do what.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Psych Yeah what would what would that their verb be? Like? Yeah,
what would that action work? See us?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Okay, well see it's a little different, I think close.
So when you say psychic or astrologer, are they the
same thing? What'd you think?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Psychic is like a person that can see you untail
by and just tell stuff about you based on sometimes
they use cards.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And astrologers do the same thing, right they do.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I've never met that nostrology before. It's mostly psychics more
common than astrologist. So, but how many psychic patronized?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, no, be sure how many?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Which doctors?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Look, don't estimate her over there? Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Okay, So there is a difference. Is that what you're
saying is, I don't know. I'm like a complete novice
on this.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay. So the main difference is, and I'm gonna read
it what they say. The main difference is one of
them has like an innate ability, right, and the other
one has things that they're just looking at their finding information.
Which of them is that the psychic? The psychic has
the ability right says. Psychic is clean to have extra
sensory perception ESP, which is me allowing them to receive
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information beyond the five senses, like seeing the future or
communicating with spirits. So I don't communicate with spirits, butlack
and sometimes I can see the future.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Right, Okay, Okay, you don't think. The whole time I've
known them, I never knew that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Astrologists, on the other hand, use the positions and movements
of celestial bodies Okay, okay, planet stars to interpret human
behavior and predict future events.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I think astrologists will be more like the ones the
Indians us to check compatibility and stuff they use like
Neptune the stars start on your star Indian as an
Indian people, not Native American. No.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
From austrology is more of a structured system. Psychic abilities
are more intuitive or supernatural.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Okay, So.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Even with the how they use the celestial bodies there,
I think that's a science to that as well. Because
if you look at certain things in human evolution under
certain astrological age, which is I think twenty five hundred
years somewhere around here. Yeah, so like the Age of
Aquarius might be twenty maybe it's twenty two five hundred
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and twenty five something like that. It's over two thousand years.
So during that age and during the Age of Pisces,
certain things happen. So the Age of Pisces are supposed
to be the age of religion and spiritual awakening.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well, that's why I'm psychic.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So what happened during the Age of Pisces you're telling.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Me, Yeah, you need to tell us. We don't know.
Stop looking at us like we know.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I said, all the major religions happened during that time.
During that age, you know, and then the Age of Aquarius.
And it's funny because they go backwards. So we're in
the age of Pisces right now. Yeah, yeah, and we're
going we're transitioning into the Age of Aquarius. This is
the dawning of the Age of Aquarius.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Why is it Aquarius?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
No, we're going backwards. You go backwards, So Pisces Aquarius backwards? Okay, Capricorn,
you know whatever. So in the Age of Aquarius is
the age of science and technology. And look what's Look
what's going on now? Ai AI genetic code, you know,
mapping the genome. So it does to me. I think
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it has some validity to it, you know, and this
is something that we will probably never understand. Interesting though.
Very Now let's let's go in, Lamb Chop. You are
a Sagittarius, I am with all you've heard about the
sagittarian woman. How accurate would you think that is?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Very?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Very like a percentage? Let's say, okay, and Bilonius, you
are a Pisces. How accurate would you say that what
they say about the Pisces women? Are you.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Me or generally yeah? For me? Pieces, yes, a lot
of it?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Like what percentage would you say, be able to give
a percentage.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
So most of the times I think you might be
some type of way based on astrology, but your your upbringing,
your whatever. Can just because they keep saying pieces or pisces,
they cry whatever. No, I don't cry someff like that
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like that emotional or in la la world or you
know what I'm saying. So no, So half the time
it's like it's maybe stuff you did as a kid
or something like that. But as an adult, I have
learned to like out grow stuff like that, you know
what I'm saying. So I would not really classify myself.
Every time I see that, he annoys me because I'm like,
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I'm not like that. I don't even want the land
or Lala land, you know. So yeah, part of it,
a lot of it is accurate. You know, Yes, we
are psychic. They call a psychic to call us the witch. Really,
I don't think I've never heard yes people yes, so
like we know, not me.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I'm just saying people have.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
No in the sense that we always have this sixth
sense sense and all of that kind of stuff. We
always know, we always have this feeling like psychic feeling,
and yes, but then you come to see that there's
somebody that I know that was born on the same
day as me. We have some similarities, but we are
not you know who. Yes we are we to say
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my own yes, I'll do. Like so anyway, as an aquarian, man,
I want to get with your percentage?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
What your percentage of?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
What of? How do you how do you think it is?
I will say about eighty five eighty five?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Okay, Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Man, you think it's one hundred, you think it's one hundred.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I think it's like ninety percent.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You know your son is also pieces.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Because it yes very emotional people.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'm not emotional.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Thor Light needs coming.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I was what I was like, why was he calling
for Thor?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I just I just know she did not say she
is not an emotional person.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Okay, anyways, yeah, let's let's get to Okay, you're not
going to well I told him now today I had
him one on one with another Aqueries and they're just
like I like, yeah, Like, I'm like I'm reading, I'm
just looking at two pieces or something in the puzzle,
two different pieces of the puzzle, and I'm like I'm
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gonna say equal equal, stingy, yes, everything. Yes, the same aligning, aligning,
But then I'm like, how everything aligning not stingy, practical
boom boom boom boom, the same, the same way he is,
Like I'm looking at and I'm like, oh my god,
oh my god, this is real. And and I have
to say him and my husband have a lot of
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similar Yeah, so yes, yes quiens, yes, but then the
other part will be some are kind of reserved, but
he's not reserved.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Reserve.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, my husband is a reserved he is he's social
compared to him. Yeah right, so no, you're not as
person not reserved like you talk. If a Martian came
down today, he will walk over to the com That's
what I'm you know what's funny the person he spoke
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to today that is saying like that's how he is.
He'll walk up to he'll go and talk. And he's
also some also some he's my friend because he's also
a helper. He can go any for anybody. And so
so that's I'm like, both of them are just like connected.
Then my brother, my younger brother, my younger brother is
also an aquarium, but he's reserved. He's normal. He will
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talk to you only after he has really gotten used
to you. You know what I'm saying, not you, Yes,
I just get used to people faster instant. No, he's
more reserved, and then he would warm up to you
as when you have stuff to talk about. And everything
he does well, they have similarities of not calling, yes,
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but but he will call you. But then when he
calls and I'm like, it's just us coming to what
are you calling me? Like you said this yesterday and
I called you said today, call you know what I'm saying.
So it's like that, And then I'm like, you're calling
me wow. So he's he's trying to walk on, work
on himself a little more. You know what I'm saying,
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Like okay when I say when I complain about stuff
like this, like okay, you said this, So I'm trying
to do you know what I'm saying. So he spoke
to him the other day and then he's more reserved
than him. But the president he spoke to today another
Aquarius that my younger brother is a twenty third, he's
this twenty second. The one he spoke to today's twentieth.
So my is my younger brother is kind of in
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between his reserve, but he will talk right in those stuffs.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
But you know what, you you might see him in
a different light, like so you're exposure to him might
be different when he's out.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
But but I'm saying, but I put both of you
on a call too, and he was he was talking,
but he was kind of still reserved. Comp no competitive.
Who he spoke to today, Oh yeah, yeah, what I'm saying, So.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
He's I think I think as a prized him because
I knew something about him already.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
The one he spoke to today, Well, what you know
something already, doesn't it doesn't matter. He's going like you.
So he has that kind of So so sometimes I
feel like they have different they can't be more. Some
people that are more of the of being one thing, yes,
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and then some people like the reserve part of it.
You know what I'm saying. I'm looking at myself and
my older brother, and he likes to wake up earlier
and get stuff done. I'm not that person.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh you as a one day apart, right.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, I'm not that person. Definitely not that person. He's
more so he's more tough, tough guy, but he has
a good hurt. But I'm more I'm not tough. I'm
more emotional and more I care about people, and he
doesn't want people in his space that block people, black
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people out. But if you get close to him, it's
actually good and he would help you out or whatever.
But you have to really break his walls get you know,
But I'm very easy.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It says. Aquaris typically are pretty reserved in personal matters.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Not you, okay, your your personal like but not generally. Yeah,
not generous, So not generally. Why are you trying to
just claim reserves be reserved reserves? Two people?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Let me see you. The only thing I'm gonna say,
I'm a I'm a ninety eight percent accurring. I'll tell
you the two percent that I am not. Okay, So
acquorrans are supposed to be flashy.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Dressers, yes, and my husband is very much so you
are not.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I am not.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Oh they said the addresses. Yeah, yeah, that's my two
percent that I am not exact. So they have some
some that are one hundred percent of being that some
of some of them just like everything. But let's let's
try Let's try it out now and then read something
about what that's like. Ninety ten percent is like that.
They're athletic and outdoorsy and I'm neither one of these. No,
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so my supervisor December people, right, yeah, my supervisor. She's not.
She doesn't have friends, she's by herself. She she likes
to work. I don't think you like to work with
she likes to work, work work now, No, no, no,
she what else that could be?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
That could be?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
She could be a caprical that could be sanitarious. She's Oh,
she's not, she's Caprica that plambers second. No, that's right. Yeah,
so I know that. Yeah, so I know. So yeah,
let me see. Let me actually, let's that was sagitari.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
No, no, because we're not talking about I.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Just want to see. We're just trying to see. We'll go.
We'll go. Don't worry, we'll go. We'll get to your sign.
You're up next. Terious woman. Yeah, I'm definitely not athletic.
I'm definitely not outdoorsy. I don't want to have any
parts to any of that. So independent and free spirited
she is, are you?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yes? And then I'm gonna speak for her. Okay, from
from the.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Outside, honest to a fault. She has no interest in
she got quoting the truth, true, naturally curious and intelligent.
My supervisor is curious.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
She's curious.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I'm so bad. That's what I have to feel like.
I say that all the time. I'm not a violent person, y'all.
It's him.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Oh my god, it's violent.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Optimistic and energetic, yes, playful and immorous yes, okay, honest, honest, adventurous.
Are you adventurous? No? No? No, no, optimistic, funny, philosophical,
philosophical sense of humor, wild, can be curious, yes, direct
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and honest.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Are you honest?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yes? I am honest? Flirting, I don't awkward? Okay, let's
go to Okay, let's see red flags forgits women. They
are flicky. No, I don't think. I'm like and decisive,
can't make up the man lying? I don't think the
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manipulative two faced? Oh no no, the red flags Sorry
for the other person is like, yes, I'm sorry, yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes,
that's true. Okay. Sagittaria so hard to love. They're hard
to what they had to love? Why they are they
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to love? Because loving the Sagittarius is filled with adventure
and spontaneity, but their free spirited nature presents challenges such
as fear of commitment, blonde honesty, predictability, emotional distance and
a strong need for freedom. Yeah, I can I can
see some of those. Okay, let's see.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I don't see. I don't see the fear of commitment thing.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I may not be married a hundred years, that might
not be Yeah, aquarious man.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
So why do people believe in psychics and astrology?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Because it just makes you want to see something like
something out of the ordinary, you know, something like your
day to day stuff or explanations about stuff that happened
around you. Things you know.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I would definitely definitely the curiosity and explain and explain.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, yeah, definitely explain. So an aquarious man is typically independent.
They have to say this word intelligence.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah they misthrot that's super intelligent.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Innovative, and humanitarian. I can say that definitely. Often characteristic
characterized by their forward thinking ideas and desire for social change.
Their social charismatic and excel in group settings, but also
value their personal space and freedom, sometimes appearing detached or unpredictable,
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while they can be rebellious and resistant to tradition. Definitely
everything Christian, yeah yeah, ye yes, yea. They also appreciate
structure and have a strong intellect intellectual core, often leading
to logic over emotion. I will say that, yes about
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yes yea who is key describing sound like regal, like
god like gee key characteristics independent and freedom loving, intellectual
and program assive, social and charismatic, unique and eccentric. Definitely eccentric. Yeah, yeah,
I agree, rebellous and entire authority. I agree to because
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it causes either he's the president of the country or
his bosses or whatever. Yes. Yes, definitely humanitarian and idealistic. Yes.
M potential challenges emotional detachment definitely challenge, is a challenge
for someone who wants to be emotionally attached. Yes. Unpredictability,
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dismissiveness definitely. You dismiss me all the time. She made
them very clear.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You might, you might.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You dismiss me all the time.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
You might assume.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, no, that's what that's our last fight, our last fight.
Because he dismissed me. Yes, he said, and I quote
what did he say? Woman? Woman? Do you need today?
Do you need tomorrow? No, He's gonna come, exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I said.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I would not doubt that at all. That sounds exactly
like you, exactly, Like, all right, so we're gonna do
hers the last one. In relationships, friendship, first, he said, yeah, yeah,
he has said that. Or did you have to first
for a relationship? Yeah, I'm surprised.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Are you sure you didn't go I've never seen that before.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Are you sure? Yeah? So he says in relations relationship
friendship first, intellectual connection and subtle affection. So yeah, I
can affection. So while she's looking for pisces, our answer,
what was the question?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Why do people believe in?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Okay? And like she said, I feel like they want
to know something that they can't explain, like or they
feel like maybe somebody can see ahead of them and
give them information of what's coming next for the future.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I think I think it's a way. It's a discovery basically,
you know, learning yourself. And also, you know, people like
to say this person's a virgo, this person's a sagittariust
whatever I can find out about them easier than you know,
or tread lightly with certain people.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
You don't. You still don't tread likely around me. You
don't know, you don't you out all out, you go alone.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
You're very emotional.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I'm not very emotional. Okay, let's listen.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And don't be skipping the words.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Okay. Pice is one is typically characterized by such trick
as empathy, creativity, compassion to put ead a dreamy and
a dreamy spiritual nature. I'm not dreamy. She's often sensitive.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Ding ding ding ding Do we have any special effects?
Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Ding ding ding ding generous and highly intuitive. So that's
why I keep saying, like the psychic path, I get
the generous part whatever, able to sense others emotions and needs. However,
her deep emotional A deep emotionality can also make her vulnerable,
and she may struggle with certain boundaries, sometimes leading to
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being taken advantage of, which is true because I try
to see the good in everybody. I feel like what
sho would be bad? Like I'm good, Like I don't
think I give people second chances. You know what I'm saying.
It doesn't take me. I can give you a long
grope with why snap, But then you might think you're
taking advantage of me. But I'm just being kind to you.
You know what I'm saying, bet you then I break.
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I'm like, you know what, I'm done with this, and
then when I'm done, I'm done, like I don't look
back because you're sensitive, so continue. So yeah, sometimes leaning
to being taken advantage of. Her artistic and romantic sensibilities
are strong, but she can also be idealistic or realistic
and sometimes struggle with reliability. I don't think so. I
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don't think I'm not.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I don't think most of that stuff doesn't. I don't
think most of that stuff describes you, honestly, except for
the sensitive part you just said.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I was generous, creative. Her beautiful outfits are a way
of besides the outfit I'm created.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Maybe I haven't seen the creative part because I've never
seen you create the creative and cooking or so.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I'm not compassionate. No, Oh my gosh, did you really
say that. I don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I don't believe you are not. I don't believe you're not.
You're not. I'm not you're one of the your You're
if if they had a bar. He's just mean on
this side, I think so to compassionate. On this side,
you have sympathy, empathy, sympathy, yeah, but compassionate.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Nah, I don't know me. Then I'm surprised you don't
know me. But anyways, key traits empathetic and compassionate women
are deeply attuned to so I'm reading that part out
for you, okay, to their emotions, to the emotions of others,
often acting as a supportive and caring friend of Hamily Man. Wow. Wow,
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so I'm not that Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Did you? Did you? Did you have any sympathy or
compassion for my needs?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
What has always gotta be about you?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I'm just saying, that's the only thing I can say.
Did you know when I was when I was in need?
Did you come forward?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yes? I okay, So let's get you. I'm gonna yeah,
I'm gonna give him another one when you're going to
New Jersey. Oh you did?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
You're right? Okay, I take that back.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Oh wow, because you're selfishly think about yourself. You only
think about yourself. That's why you said I'm not compassionate anyways, intuitive,
dreamy and idealistic, sensitive and vulnerable, wealth whatever, because behavy, Yeah,
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behavioral tendancies, selfless, generosity. I know that.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I would say that because you're a gift giver to
you like to give gifts? Talking about is that what
they're talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Selfless? Being selfless, selfless, you give up yourself. Yeah, why
why are you not mentioning gifts?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Because you give up yourself. Sometimes that's how people show it.
They give gifts.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
People pleasing exactly. I keep trying to please him and
displease myself. I don't know why you keep trying to
make yourself crazy. I know adaptability, yes, yes, which is bad.
Adapt to whatever situation, adapt to other's energy. She also
needs her alone time to recharge and cope with the
emotion she absorbed from others. When people around me are
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I don't like it because I take all their their energy. Yes, yes,
good or bad? Yes, yes, that would be over sometimes. Yeah,
my sister is and she's not nice. I'm not gonna
say she's not nice. I'm gonna say that she's about
hair for the stuff that is, I'm gonna leave it there. Well, yeah,
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that's what I'm saying. I'm saying the other person too,
that that was that we were born on the same day. Definitely,
maybe to her family and mouth, maybe to her own
immediate family. Extending towards others outside, yeah, maybe in her
family setting like our close relations, maybe, but not to
others outside. You know, she's definitely stingy, very very stingy.
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For I'm saying thats and definitely just half of those
things and I'm like, yeah, that was just given an
example of somebody that could be some of them. I'm
like somebody that we were born on the same day,
and it's nothing like me. I'm saying. She's very stingy. Yeah,
you know, right exactly, and she is very hard work,
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and she is that person that will get up at
the crack of dawn and be wherever she needs to
be and get stuff like that done.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, angles are like that too.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah I'm not that person.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I'm not, just says. People seek meaning, comfort, and guidance,
especially in uncertain times. Psychics and astrology can offer a
sense of control or explanation, Like you guys said, Some
also find it entertaining or therapeutic. Cognitive cognitive biases like
confirmation bias also plays a role. People tend to remember
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hits and forget the missus. So we'll say, all right,
all the things that.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
See, I don't want to know ahead, I don't want
to know ahead, I don't. I don't. I don't want
to know anything about me losing somebody ahead of time,
any of those things. I don't. I don't want to
know ahead. If you're gonna tell me, I hit the
lottery then now I would want to know.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I would want to know a head when it comes
to people like who am I dealing with?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
You know, you're enough who you're dealing with. I had
a lot of missus, you know, Yeah, but don't have life.
That's that's life, and it's gonna teach you some lessons.
Those misses definitely teach you some lessons correct that this is.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, Now do you think there's any scientific basis for this?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
It's got to be some somewhere. It's got to be
some somewhere. I feel like the astrology with the moon
and the stars, like farmers use all of that stuff
for crops and things like that, so it's got to
be some kind of scientific thing somewhere, so that that.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Part is scientific. Because the moon has a has a
pull and it you know obviously when you we call
it when you do harvests or whatever, it has the
effect on water, right, So.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
You got to plant a certain time and you gotta
harvest a certain time. So I think all of that
has some basis and science, But I don't don't about.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Behavior, Like when we talk about astrological behaviors or personality traits,
how does that can you think of anything scientific that
might have.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Affected Yeah. No, listen, I've worked in healthcare all of
my career and some kind of and it's usually mental
health or substance use. And every single time it was
a full moon, we would be like, oh, ship, it's
a full moon and it's gonna be crazy. And every
single time it has been like and every you know,
even when we were just like nobody's gonna mention it,
(31:58):
We're gonna come in here, we're gonna work. Something goes off,
you know, somebody goes you know, that's.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
The origin of lunatic full moon. Yeah, the moon learnar
expect on a person. But I'm gonna say the scientific
this is my thing, my thinking. Right, So if you
look at the whole universe and let's let's say our
galaxy in general, and you look at all the different things,
is like a clock, well all these missing not missing
(32:25):
moving parts, and everything really connects to another thing, whether
it be there, their gravity, their effects. You know, everything
is connected. I think and even even right now, like
you know, say a star exploded, everything that's you know,
made from this mean from you, not saying from you,
(32:46):
what is it that's that you're made of? Is from
the beginning of the universe. You know, it's because it
wasn't just created. So I think the the connection between
things in the in the you know versus influence is
still there. We just don't know it. So when they say, okay,
the we're in the the cusp of this and whatever,
(33:10):
I do think that makes a difference. I think there's
certain influences that happen.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
You know, we just say all the time, my moon
and stars are on the line when my day ain't
going right. So yeah, I think things definitely, that's the part.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
How about Oh, now, psychics, Yes, I definitely I am
a I am a believer insight. Now, I ain't talking
about the ones that is in the front of the store.
I'm talking about now, I'm not talking about I'm talking
about people who actually get these feelings, that can that
can see the future, that can you know, feel how
(33:45):
you know you're feeling, you know, things like that, you
know how the connection between twins that could be on
different parts of the world. Yes, I think that is
a scientific phenomenon that I think we just don't understand. Now,
even when you talk about what's the thing called we
have two particles that quantum entanglement. Right, So when you
talk about quant quantum entanglement, where you know what affects
(34:09):
it over here, right, you know, instantly affects us over here.
I think since we're all made it of the same things,
I think that has a lot to do with it.
I do think you can. And then you got to
also think about too, like maybe we might be even
in a cycle.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I kind of think that I kind of cycled over
and over and over. Yeah, I kind of think that there.
I feel like that's where your dejavou come in. Yes,
you know that stuff like that you give you, like,
I think scientific explanation for dejav they had it. It
was called something like a shadowing or like almost like
an echo that you that your brain does. That's what
(34:46):
they said something. But yeah, I definitely think that's real.
I definitely think.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, my personal opinion, like I think everything in this
universe is basically unknown science and known science, so either
we just don't know it yet.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
That's a good way of looking at it. That's definitely
a good way of looking at it. And I can
I can agree with I think that there are certain
people who could feel your spirit and and you know,
know that you're having a bad day or whatever like that.
I'm not sure about the tarot cards and maybe because
I've never really explored it or it was like, no,
(35:20):
I had no interest in learning about it. I'm not
going to a psychic. I'm not you know now, I'm
not doing it. I don't feel comfortable.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Would you do a no?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
No, I would not know what that is when everybody
here you holding and you you know, conjured up somebody from.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You know, it's usually one person who the movie did.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
You saw the movie where where they had this this
stick or some wood or whatever and they was all
together and they conjured up spirits.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Okay, it's usually like one person with the person and
that that brings the spirit to life. And see that's
that's my fear, Like I don't want to be bringing
the wrong spirit, you know, to life. It's just like
I don't know the part that part I don't. I'm
not sure it's real, but yeah, I'm not willing to
find out. I'll say that I don't never did the
(36:17):
Ouiji board when I was a kid, Like, I mean,
I don't miss because you know, I think at some
level people have to believe that this is possible, or
we wouldn't be talking about it today. So I'm not
inviting any spirits. And well, if you're going to invite them,
let them stay here.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Hey, you're all welcome. We have an understanding, understand like,
you know, because.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
They're gonna be a home lesson. It's like, and how
do you pick which is a good spirit which is
not a good spirit? I remember, Yeah, we.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Don't just have an understanding. Like listen, I'm gonna tell
you who if you want to do something to somebody,
let me tell you. Let me point you in the
right direction.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I told y'all when I moved in my house, the
kids was like, your house is haunted, and I was like,
for what I'm paying for this house? They say, y'all
stay over there. I'll be over here, and we're gonna
be good. You know. That's that's how we're gonna work
at it. We're gonna be good. But yeah, I don't know,
and I don't know how Like I said, how do
you pick? And how do you believe the person who
is about psyche? I won't even believe. But then you
(37:30):
have to really tell me stuff about me. You don't
don't ask me nothing, don't just yeah, don't ask me
any questions. Just tell me what you can see about me,
and then I will figure it out. Okay, Then I
go from there and see if it's real.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Let me see, because I'm a psychic. Let me see.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Oh, what's the next question? Yeah, onto the next.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
That read my lips? What about astrology? Has it ever?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Well?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
What about has it ever been proven to work?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
All?
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Right? So they say, most scientists say that it lacks
predictive power. Birth charts consistently predict personality or life events
better than chance. I say, don't. And they said, however,
some psychological effects, like the I don't know what this means,
the horror effect, people seeing vague statements that's highly accurate
make it feel real. So I think that's what it was.
(38:21):
I think one of the scientists said that, like we
you can make a vague prediction or a vague statement
and say, oh yeah, that's me, you know, like or
a creeious. They like music, so if I give you
my birth date, right, and he said, well, he's aquarious,
and most aquarius they like music, so you like music
and this whatever. It's like, okay, well most people do like.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Me, right, So that's that's very vague.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Or you may think she's very generous, right, everybody thinks
that generous, so I can see that way.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I remember somebody telling me that, you know, uh, the
signs aren't like what did he say? He was like,
you have certain personality traits, and just because you read
that on paper, you start acting like that. And I
was like, no, I was acting like this before anybody
ever told me. This is how I'm supposed to act.
That's what he was saying, Like, people tell you because
you're a pisces, this is how you're supposed to act, right,
(39:13):
And then we start acting that way, And I'm like, no,
I don't think that's true. I think you're just born
with certain characteristics and certain personality traits that happened to
fall into these categories.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, but some of them, some of them are like uncanny,
they're accurate, Like yeah, I mean, it gotta be some
something to it. It has to be. I refuse to
believe that even when you know you're describing a certain
person and I'm and we end up having like the
same type of whatever, even down to ailments.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
And not knowing what their sign is, right, right, So
you're right.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
All right, so this is we're gonna talk about the
cultural impact. But are there dangers in believing too much
in psychics or astrology?
Speaker 2 (39:54):
That could be, Yeah, that could be because sometimes you
you I love times people even people use that as
an excuse. I'm prices. That's why I'm prices. That's why
I don't do my work well, I'm prices, or that's
why for bad behavior. So sometimes yes, they do. Some
(40:16):
I can see people going to the psychic and make
a life decision. Yes, exactly, psychic correct correct believing. Some
people believe solely in stuff like this money. They don't
want to Yes, they don't want to live your life
the normal way. They just want the quick way or
to know. But I don't know if doing that, In
doing that, you're going to get the results, you know
(40:39):
what I'm saying, like, how will that change the cause
of your life? You know? So I don't know if
they know everything.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
So I remember there was a daily horoscope.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yes, they still do theirs and I still haven't come
to my phone, just you know, just curiosity whatever.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
And sometimes you look at it and it's like, oh,
you know what that was, right? What kind of day
am I going to expect? Yeah, and then that the
bio orrhythms tells you you're and this is I believe
that people your days go up and down. That I
start thinking about that, it's like, all right, you know
when certain things happen, like, oh, I must be on
a down day. That's my down side, you know, because
(41:15):
just my interactions with other people, I was like, Okay, yeah,
this person told me, no, this person whatever. But yeah,
so you start looking at that, you know, thinking, and
then it kind of confirms in your head.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
But then the yeah, but then also can that's also
like spirituality, you know, Yeah, you didn't bring that into
It's not just science and all these things kind of
like they're like spiritual as well. So that's part of
the bringing the ghosts in. That's part of the that's
you can't just do that. That's not a physical thing
(41:51):
to do. You know what I'm saying. You need stuff
to It's not easy to tell someone's future. It's not easy.
It's not if it was easy, scientists will know what
will happen in the next twenty thirty years, you know
what I'm saying. Well, so I was gonna say, yeah,
that's what I could predict, what's predictive fact, but not
like accurately you know what I'm saying. No, no, no,
(42:13):
one hundred.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
So even right now they can see right now, they
can say, you know, by mathematics, right that a space.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Object is just stuff about space, not about people. About people, Yes,
about people, know they kind of they were not okay,
twenty years a human will change your people would change
this way or whatever. You know what I'm saying. So
it's not about people. It's mostly about the world space.
That's what they know.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
I think. I think most things can be predicted in
a in a certain space, like a not like in
a you know, white in the next ten years, you
can you can say, you can say, in another hundred
and fifty years, you say, will humans look more like this?
They can do that as science. But as far as
having like psychicapability, you know, you can. I think sometimes
(43:00):
it's more like a feeling that you have or that's.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
What I'm saying, Like it's spiritual.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Okay, so you would say spiritual. Some people might say
it might be the sixth dimension that our brains just
can't see, not six s six dimensions, because there's different
dimensions that you know, our brains just don't see, and this.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Person might have that ability, right, so we'll see. Yeah,
I'm never gonna find out we see. Yeah, I'm not
doing that.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Have you ever met someone or you know someone that
had a real psychic or astrological experience? Mm hmm, I
say they claned, yes, mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Now I'm telling you. When she was very young, would
tell us who was coming to the house. She had
no way of knowing.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Oh, okay, so that's coming to the house. That would be.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Everything time. She would be, right, min mine is yeah, dreams,
I say, I say things.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
That's how mine is.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Dreams.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Figure, I have my dreams always. So for me, if
I have a dream, and I joke about this lot,
but if I have a dream, it always tells me
certain things. I just mean, I understand it at the time.
So then really then then later on it's like, oh, okay,
I guess what that meant. Yeah. So it's like, if
you know, if I could understand it at the time
and put things in and you know you're not going
(44:22):
to figure out this is what somebody's telling for the future,
then I think I'd be better off, probably wealthy.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
So probably it's not allowed. Was not allowed with you yeah,
I don't know. I don't know. I think for some
people this is all that they do, and they, you know,
constantly go to these psychics, and at some point I
feel like the psychics is just taking them advanta, especially
(44:51):
when you went to CD. You are in your low
point and you need help and you just need to
hear this, and you just need to hear that to
make you feel better. I'd have to time. They probably
know stuff about you anyway, and then you just make
up stuff to keep going. I mean now in the
age of Google, like, can't you you can go and
learn like stuff about it correct then they think.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
And you predict that you're going to be laid on
your next phone bill when you saw me, you saw
my name up there the link with the camp.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
But if it's like if I if I go to
you want for the first time and I go to
you one on one and you can tell me stuff
about me, I'm gonna believe.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Let's go to a psychic.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
I'm not yeah for yourself, for yourself for yourself. No,
I'll just listen for yourself or I'll do it. I'll
be I'll be the yes. But I don't want your
life to turn upside down because it will affect me
either as affect.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
I mean, I can't watch you. I don't believe in
it first of all, so not not that, not those people.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
But I always also feel like if you put they
can also change what is to come for you searching.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
For stuff because of my because of my beliefs.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Or no, they can also mess with it. You get
what I'm trying to say. So if if I say
you're gonna be a millionaire, so you start spending because
you know the money is coming, is that what you say?
That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying like, okay, yeah,
they're gonna tamper with a certain way your life is.
You know what I'm saying, Your part like this is
(46:27):
how you're supposed to go straight. But when they keep
digging and such.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Believe that your fates are a pre.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, yes I do, Okay, I do. I believe that
that everything, everything that happening to me, was already destined
to have to happen, and then sometimes you can just
derail somehow with other things. All your everything is already
set out for you, but sometimes maybe people you made
or whatever whatever, but it's still part of your destiny.
(46:58):
It's part of your journey sometimes to get to where
you want to go to. You know, so I look
at it, how do you believe It's weird? Because there
are times that I feel like I'm exactly where I'm
supposed to be. You know. There are times like this
is this is right, this is exactly where I'm supposed
to be. But then there are times like when I
got cancer, I was just like, well, why is this
happening exactly? So sometimes so when things like that happen,
(47:21):
I'm like, this is just a this is just a
way for you to be stronger, you know what I'm saying.
It's like things that. So when my mom passed, I'm like,
oh my god, I thought I didn't think I would
last this long. I thought I was going to die
next because she was she was beginning to be like
my God, anything she says goes anything, Like I just
(47:41):
believed so much in her. Like whatever she says, whatever
she says, whatever she prays about, whatever, it's just whatever
she says. You know, more than God. He says, Hey,
you need to pray for this. I'm like, well me,
just do it. You do it, just help, you know, God,
has more. God down says your more do it God
want say you. You know what I'm saying. So it
was just me relying on her solely, and then eventually
(48:02):
she passed and I had to figure these things out myself,
you know what I'm saying. So sometimes I just feel like, Okay,
these things are like just there for you to go
to get stronger, to be able to get to the
part of the points you're supposed to be. You know, agree,
I feel challenge you where I felt that way, but initially, yeah,
it wasn't like that. Yes, So like challenges are like
(48:23):
things that just come your way to just make you
see that, hey, there are things, there are forces in
this life. You're just relaxed. You need to like you
need to buckle up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
I think you look at it this way. You have
a timeline, right, your lifeline, and as you go through it,
you're always having these millions of choices that take you
down different paths, and it's up to you to decide
what path you go. So, like a person that can
predict the future, it's like in Star Wars or go
(48:55):
back to Star Wars, right, you said, because one of
the characters. Anakin was having these dreams, these premonitions, and
he said, Yoda, the little green thing. He said, be
careful of the future because it's always moving, right. So basically,
you might see something in this particular space that's going
to happen, but something else could come in and intervene,
(49:17):
change change it, right. So for me, I think that,
you know, we always have these these choices that we
make in life that can always put us on a
thousand different paths or a million different paths, you know,
And that's I don't think it's I don't think our
things are already laid out.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
But okay, I'll give you. I'll give you something. I'll
give you an example, an instance like things things that
like when in Africa, sometimes in some churches, like when
kids are born born, they predict the future. They will
tell you like elders or no larents, no parents like
(49:56):
the church. Okay, they will predict the the thing. They'll
just predicted. Hey, when this child is then you see
the traits. You see this this when this child is seven,
or when this child is six, look out for this.
This child is going to be this way or this
child is going to be that way. And literally happens.
So he really really does happen. Hmmm. I wish they
(50:18):
could do that, Seriously, I wish they could do that
because I think we could eliminate some things. But the
danger and that is who decides what to eliminate and
how to eliminate. Because you know, if we could get
rid of some of these serial killers, then if you
could predict it, but there are some predictors.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
I'm gonna say even even so, even if you have
a going back to your line, So if you have
a serial killer and let's say we knew that somewhere
down the line that he was going to do X,
Y and Z, but that might change a lot of
other things that kind of could be for other people, right,
so you know, I think it is.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
I'll give you one instance. So this does this guy
in the UK. He he was his mom was my
mom's colleague. So when he was born, they told him that,
they said, hey, your son is going to be famous.
He's going to be famous. This boy was brought to
this world. He's to be famous. And then guess what,
he was famous? But how did he get famous? He
(51:16):
was stabbed? Oh, he was stabbed in the UK. And
then he went viral like then it was a black boy,
Nigerian black boy. And then his colleague stabbed him, and
then I think the the queen or whatever invited his
parents blah blah blah. So he was famous, Like we're
headed to the newspapers everywhere. He was really really famous.
(51:37):
So like sometimes they say these things, you don't really
know what they said. He was famous. You think it's
going to be a good thing, you know what I'm saying,
almost like one of the plots of the books I'm writing,
mister this Man, right, yeah, so stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
One of the things.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, so it's kind of like remember that movie The Butterfly.
So you can't you know, you go back and change
one little teeny tiny thing, it's going to change everything
ahead of that. So sometimes you're like, I don't know
why this has happened to me, But like you said,
it makes you stronger, It gives you some skills, good
or bad. But you know it moves us. It moves
(52:17):
you maybe in the direction you should be going in
all along. So I don't know about the psychic business. Well,
if she goes it, can let us know. Yeah, we
not do one field trip that I'm going to pass on.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
We're all going together. We are not. So you guys
have an opinion about it. I would like to hear
it about psychics. If you ever went to a psychic.
Let us know what are your thoughts and feelings about astrology,
you know, let us know we need worth of today.
We put this word of to day in the middle
of the podcast, anyway.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
Or say it at least once or twice yes before
the Well part of that is we don't think about it.
We don't think about what the words it should be. Star,
all right, that's it works for me. I'm a star. Start,
she was star?
Speaker 1 (53:11):
You know what means?
Speaker 2 (53:13):
It's so, what does it mean? You told me, oh,
I'm a stuff? But that she was? All right?
Speaker 1 (53:24):
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Speaker 2 (53:29):
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