BEHIND CLOSED DOORS: The Truth About Kinks and Fetishes

Ever wondered why someone might be into feet, leather, or getting tied up like a pretzel? You're not alone—and we've got questions too. In this laugh-out-loud (but still totally informative) episode, your fearless Hot Topix Podcast hosts team up with guests to explore the wild, wonderful world of kinks and fetishes. We’re peeling back the bedsheets on:

• What the heck is the difference between a kink and a fetish?
• Are these things actually normal? (Spoiler: yes.)
• Where do these desires come from—childhood, cartoons, or just really intense Google rabbit holes?
• And most importantly: how do you bring up “the thing” you’re into without terrifying your partner?

No shame, no judgment—just hilarious, honest talk about the stuff people usually whisper about... or search incognito. Get ready to laugh, learn, and possibly side-eye your browser history. It's about to get kinky.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
This episode contains discussions of sensitive topics, including sexual content, violence,
and other controversial materials that may be distressing to some listeners.
Please take care of your mental health and emotional wellbeing
while listening. If you feel overwhelmed or triggered at any point,
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(00:25):
Your wellbeing comes first.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
You're listening to the Hot Topics podcast cycle forty What
Lovely Lady, Lame chap and.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Let's get into it.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Good morning, good evening, good afternoon, and welcome to the
latest episode of Hot Topics. I'm here with my two
co hosts, the fabulous bolonious brother Yo Yo Yo and
this other person, Psychlo forty eighty one.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
How you guys going today?

Speaker 4 (01:01):
How are you doing today?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'm swell?

Speaker 4 (01:03):
How was your week?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
An eventful?

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Okay? So is mine? Uneventple is good, uneventfle is good.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
In regards of what this next one's going to say,
I know she went to a party.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Why you always gotta tell her?

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Bess Well, this week, yeah, but last week, no, gotcha.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
So we have a very interesting topic today. You heard
I'll trigger warning. So if it's anyone that's under the
age of eighteen. Please have them leave the room. We
have some guests. Right, So, how was Oh, you were
really upset yesterday? Yeah, she was really upset yesterday about
the latest things that's happening in the news.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
So yeah, well we won't get on that because okay,
I'm going to try to have be a.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
All right, all right, so we won't talk about the news.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
For those who are listening, we have an idiot for
a president. Just want you to know we have an
idiot for a president. There's that I can't understate that. Okay,
So today we have some guests that's coming in.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Good for me that I have another country. Yeah, you
might need that to have that in your back pocket.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
Yes, So.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Today's topic is going to be about kinks, fetishes and fantasy.
So this is an adult topic and we do have
some adult guests. We have e J e J in here,
we have a man Z's in here.

Speaker 6 (02:28):
We have.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Tina, Karen, Elesha and p Diddy you know what, Paula here.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Hi everybody, Hi, you.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Guys can chime in whenever you feel ready. But we're
gonna have a nice discussion and we're gonna make this
a little bit of fun.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
We always have Shanan against. We could be talking about
something serious and have some Shenan against.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Okay, so all right, let me start us off with
a easy question, actually is a needed question. When's the
first time you ever heard of the word kink?

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (03:06):
I definitely was an adult. Yeah, I absolutely was an adult.
I don't think I ever heard it as a child
or a teenager. Yeah, not in Park Heights. Maybe they
just weren't talking about I know he is, and I'm
trying to ignore him. I'm completely trying to ignore him. So,
like I said, I don't know if people weren't talking

(03:27):
about it. Yeah, I think it's probably a world it's
been around, just been around. Maybe it's just freely used
now talking about Yeah. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
So any of my guess when did have you heard
of the word kink? How old were you.

Speaker 6 (03:48):
Paula, I just heard of it. I've never heard of kink.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Just like today years old. Yeah, thanks goodness.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I think they I thought Thor was in the room
with all this lightning striking.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
Oh, I'm trying to see the sister Tina here that before.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Sister Tina, now Tina old school. We know, we know
we heard about Tina.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
We heard about.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Tina, What is wrong with you?

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Why?

Speaker 5 (04:26):
All right?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
So look, let me let me For anybody who don't know,
the definition king refers to any unconventional sexual practice, preference,
or fantasy. It can include b D s M, which
is bondage, discipline, dominant submissions, sado masochism, role play, warriorism,
et cetera. And anybody want to know about b D

(04:47):
s M.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
You know, I heard b D s M so much,
and you know, I never even thought it was an
acronym for something. Really, yeah, but I didn't know it
had all this bondage.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (05:02):
And I know lamb trap you're expert in cityo mesochism, right.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah, I was gonna ask, why did you do this
to me?

Speaker 5 (05:13):
And why are you?

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Do you really know that I am not what you say?
Don't listen to don't don't listen to him, do not.
Please let me tell y'all before we even get into this.
He is going to harass the life out of us

(05:35):
and act like we are the only ones did have
any of these things going on in our life. Meanwhile,
exactly he over here trying to act like he innocent
that he is not.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
So, but we're gonna we're actually gonna talk about some
of the popular kinks and fetishes and they believe it
or not, they all have names. Okay, that was interesting
for me.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
So, so you didn't do definition of fetish.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Fetish is a sexual fixation on a non living object,
body part, or a specific situation, meaning like somebody gets
in the feet and latex and you know, uniforms and
stuff like that. So yeah, that's a little different.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
From so somebody like uniform. Yeah, like they get turned
on in a man like roll plane and then you
have to put it.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
That's a little different. That's a fantasy. So all right,
if you if you're role playing, because that's what you
need to get excited. Okay, that's a fetish.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
It's like uniform excites me. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
that's the difference.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
But that you can have a foot fetish, yes, yes, yes,
that's up body hands fetish.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
So it's not yes, getting dressed up and stuff.

Speaker 6 (06:46):
Right, So she was just we was using, huh, what's
your fetish disease?

Speaker 5 (06:53):
I want to.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
I was about why they all muted it whatever.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
So you're eating.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Toes and stuff like that, like them believe them or whatever,
and then you know there's this way you sell your feet,
like what is only fans?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Only fans is does this science? And I'm like, oh
my god, this is like free money. I'm thinking about.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
People don't know who you are.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
They just.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Okay. So now I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put
anybody's personal business out there yet, all right.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
You know you're not putting anybody's personal business out there
and only to start, So.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
My question is, and I'm gonna I'm gonna ask the guests.
I ask my co host first, right, and we can
start with the lovely Lady Lambshop because because you're lovely,
because because you are my right, Why do you think
kinks and fetishes are taboo?

Speaker 4 (07:54):
So I don't think that they are. I don't feel
like that that they are, but I think that they're
taboo because mainstream Christian conservative people have labeled it as such,
although some of those are participating in some straight out
shenanigans behind closed doors.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
But you know that's what we're talking about, closed doors, right,
So you know.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
I feel like, if that's your business, that's your business.
I don't I don't feel like it should be anybody
like do with that as long as it's consensual and
as long as nobody's getting harmed, Okay, I have had it.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Well, it might be a taboo because sex generally it's
like a taboo. So now increasing the level of the
doors of sex, you know, So that's why it could
be a taboo. It's if it's not normal, then it's
I read in the news or Instagram the other day
where a girl it's happened in Nigeria and the hotel

(08:55):
person was going to clean up the room and so.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
The girl dead in the room.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
She was on her knees tied behind the back and
it was like she died of stranglition something like that.
But they were like, Okay, this looks like a case
of BDSM gone.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Gone too far.

Speaker 7 (09:12):
Ye.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
So yeah, so stuff like that could be dangerous and yeah,
so you know, you have to have a safe word
to say oh stop.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah right, so you gotta before you get to that part.
Sometimes people women like to get choked, So you got
to have a safe word, you know.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
Something.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
I was watching something on TV maybe about a year ago,
and the guy was like, yeah, you gotta have a
safe word, and I just kind of chuckle on. My
husband looked at me, like, what is this? And I
was like, you don't know what a safe word is?
And he was like no, and why do you know it?
Like because I read.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Police you know what?

Speaker 4 (09:51):
I can't stay?

Speaker 2 (09:55):
So yeah, all right, these let's say.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
I want to say, work.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Continue right.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
About felis? What's villain to say felis?

Speaker 4 (10:17):
We don't take anything seriously, Like this show does not
take anything.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Seriously of any of you. Do you think that fetishes
in kinks are taboo?

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I don't know outside of mainstream regular and of course
everything outside of that is taboo is considered taboo.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
Okay, Okay, I think I think so did he got
a fetish.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
For baby it's a new day and time though, because.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Right, and it's still is for some some religions and
some people got women saying I know you're so excited
to tell me that my god, yeah, stop shake your head.
But I know another official war say something.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
But men's But okay, that's called all right, we'll get
into the actual technical terms of that. So let's get
the top of here.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
I didn't even know that I had a name.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
It does.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
So you have flatio, which is everybody knows who that is, right,
And you have uh right, you know that is okay,
And there's there's a a lingus.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Okay, okay, that the salad, yes, okay, all right. So
other than that, I don't know if any I don't
know any of us any other lingus.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
That's the only lingus is I know.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
So most of the people here think that fetish is
and king are not taboo, right, most of them. Most
of the things. Okay, So how about fantasies.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
I mean, I think that's fine too, that's normal, okay.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
So why society may think it's taboo because of how
it was portrayed in the media, religious religion, right, lack
of sex education because we don't want to talk about
sex education in school, right right in this country? Yes,
what did she say? Cultural?

Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Cultural?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
So, and then some of the misconceptions as they you know,
associate the kinks and stuff like that with trauma or abuse.
And somebody mentioned earlier about the Diddy case, right, so
that's going to be something to watch where you know,
there was some kinks in there, but was it abuse?
Was it was trauma?

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Was it? You know?

Speaker 4 (12:53):
So it was a little who it's a little who
kinky for me to keep up with it's a little,
it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, it was a lot up in there, some really
really nasty. Well I'm not gonna say nasty because to
each his own.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
I just tried not to watch it. I can't.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
A woman participants, not all of them. That's a whole
different case. If they wasn't, it's.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
A whole different that that that goes intoto the trauma
and the victimization thing. And we have to do Diddy
as a whole separate So you guys are welcome to
come back if you like to participate that that's gonna
be a whole separate podcast.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
And anyone who wants to join you give a free
bottle of baby oil.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Oh you get the good stuff, the Walmart brand. Oh
you are so gross? I can't.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
All right, So all right, why do you Why do
you think that society is so uncomfortable talking openly about
fetishes and kinks the same.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Reasons, I think, the same reason they are. It's still
a lot of people who are. I think it's it's
getting Yeah, I think it's getting slowly and slowly into
the mainstream. But I think a lot of people are
what's it called.

Speaker 8 (14:09):
They don't want to be embarrassed they have they have
they little sucking toes and salad. Uh, you know, whatever
it is that they want to do, you know, getting
their ass beat excuse me, you know, whatever it is
that they want to do, they they and their bedroom
is good, but outside their bedroom, they don't want to

(14:29):
be looked upon like that, you know what I'm.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
And it depends on how you know their lifestyle. So
if you are consistent, ongoing church person and you know
that you could not talk to anybody in your congregation
about the things that you shouldn't be talking aboutout you
and your wife do anyway, but you know, you can't
mention that this is something that you like to do
because you're going to be shunned or looked upon as different.
So I was going to say that I did.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
I personality did not ever think about it until I
saw the movie what's that movie?

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Fifty Shades fifty? And then the other one of what.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Fifty glass?

Speaker 6 (15:08):
Oh yeez, yes, oh great, it was nice.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, So from that I said, I'm thinking about it, like,
oh my god, this would be nice to try, you know.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
And then there was this other one. Was it three
sixty was it?

Speaker 6 (15:22):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Three sixty five?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Sixty five.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yeah, that was that was a good one. That was
like that, that's not a good one. That was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
So those moves, those kind of movies just put in
your head like, oh my god, it might not be
so bad to try.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
Ladies.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I want to Ladies for it in the being kidnapped,
and I think I think that was.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Handsome, So I don't. I think that's why people are
afraid though, because I think you know, you know, you
go to the movies and you see these things, it's like, oh,
that might be something I want to try. And then
people are just like, oh my god, don't let anybody
see this, because that puts something They think that that
puts something in your head.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I think Felix mentioned that that big majority is that
people don't want to be out it they want they
don't want that. Yeah, they don't want to be judged
or yes, yes, so and well let's say we have one, two, three,
we have five guests here. Any of you five really
don't care if you had let's say, let's say if

(16:18):
you made a videotape and you was into a particular
kink or you know, certain fetish and they got out,
but any of you care.

Speaker 9 (16:30):
I would care.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
I want to get paid.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
I ain't mad at all. My my concern would be
my children. I don't want my children knowing what my
personal preferences. Okay, now, so that will be my only concern.
If it was just adults saying it, I wouldn't care.
But now with the internet is out there and it's
there and everybody can see it, so that would be
I don't want my normal seas has.

Speaker 6 (17:03):
Certain images that we want to preserve, you know.

Speaker 10 (17:05):
Okay, you know that's in the eyes of this in
the eyes of society, you considered a freak, right, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (17:15):
Do I want my colleagues, I want my family to
know that I'm a freak. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Right now, So let me ask you guys, do you
think that Do you guys think that a person's occupation
is a I guess the determining factor.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Of that, I'm sure I say that, Yeah, I'm sure.
Part like if you're a school teacher and this guy
parents having you know, issue.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Or in the church and Paul you said explaining what
dific is, I think most people won't know that. Listen
in New Jersey, Yeah, what is that?

Speaker 6 (17:53):
Well, that was the Family Services.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
Remember your teacher, yes, oh my lord.

Speaker 10 (18:04):
Well, we were walking down Pacific Avenue and they had
a bunch of strip joints on Pacific Avenue that was
like where the prostitutes in the strip and you know,
and strip clubs were.

Speaker 6 (18:15):
And we looked to the side and it was his
teacher dancing in the strip CLUBO.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
So this is my third grade teacher.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
And they called her go go. Writer's right, And here
it is almost fifty years later and we still.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Now to her defense.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Inside the strip club.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
On Pacific Avenue, the door was open.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
So what happened was we was walking past it. I
think was coming from a restaurant and somebody was coming
out and the door swung open, and there she was,
you know, and making money. No, well, you know, it
was a rumor because the nickname came before that, so
it was a rumor that she was doing that. You know,

(18:58):
she didn't stay long. As a matter of fac I
think after my year.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
She was I bet you somebody found out because she
made more money. Facts, and that's a whole nother, you know,
state of affairs, like you shouldn't have to do this
to make money. We should pay teachers more. But don't
get me on that. But yeah, well we'll go on
that one forever.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
So and you mentioned fifty Shades of Glass right.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Of grade because he wanted to be him and it's not.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
And you know, I have never seen that movie, but
you have, you have, you haven't.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
I haven't, which you didn't three six.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Five years I saw that one. So do you think
media and that includes you know, movies, Netflix shows all that,
do you think that has a bearing on how people
are becoming more open or being more acceptable?

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yes? Yeah, absolutely, social media maybe that too. I think
I think social media plays.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Word of mouth.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, word of mouth.

Speaker 8 (20:02):
You hear your boys say, yeah, man, I just did
whoop the woop with my old lady.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
Man, and she was flipping for it. You know what
I'm saying, be like, damn, that wouldn't let me know,
you know, I gotta try that one.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
That's true?

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Then you try it and get slack.

Speaker 8 (20:21):
Let me tell y'all something right now, So y'all's talking.
She shouldn't have put me on here, hub Paula.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
On her.

Speaker 8 (20:29):
I'm gonna mind my business, but my lady and I
love her.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
Her death. I love her like fat kid love ken.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
I'm here, I'm.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
Sorry, Wait a minute, I'm sorry.

Speaker 8 (20:41):
My daughter on the phone that just says that stayed
as I love them two women now, I love them
to death.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
For this, for this episode, no saving put it all out, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
Because I gotta give something before I go to work tonight.
We're gonna, We're gonna.

Speaker 8 (21:05):
I'm gonna just say this, in your household, do what
you feel freeom long? Would you don't hurt nobody?

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Long? Would you don't you know, disrespect your partner.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Do what you feel.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
If she like it, might.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Enjoy I do expect my partner to wake up one
day and tell.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Me I want you to eat my poop? Never know?

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, so there, so there there are some boundaries.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yes, there are some boundaries. There are some boundaries, absolutely definitely, right.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
So you know there's there's kink communities, right, yeah, so
you know they're supposed to have some of the strongest
norms in clear boundary because this is what they do,
right right. Do you think people are more accepting up
some kings than others?

Speaker 5 (22:05):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Because of that?

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (22:07):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Okay, so you felonious mentioned what that's called scat or
or golden showers, which is the the p Yeah, so
you think R Kelly, you think so? Well exactly so
you know he didn't lose no fans after that.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
He sure did not. He sure did not, because if
she was dumb enough to let him do it, well,
I don't I don't think. I don't think this one
particular one was. I think she was too young to
she was fourteen, yes, rather that something wanted in her life.

(22:43):
I'm absolutely against that. Yes, because she's still a child.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Because because I know, I know a few of you
been to a R. Kelly concert and was up at
the front stage getting peed on. Oh yes, problem.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
People paid people paid people for that. You know Arab guys.
That's the kind of king or whatever it is, the
fly girls out just to give them money and stuff
like that.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Yeah, they got a whole community.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, okay, so let me somebody.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yes, yes, they to do it to somebody.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
To somebody, fly them out on the yard whatever.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, fifty grand.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
That's so.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Somebody mentioned cultural and you mentioned religious lap shop, and
I think these mentioned like generational differences on how they proceed.
So and when we're talking about the conservative ones. Mm hmmm,
is that really just a front? It may be considering

(24:05):
you're seeing the Arabs, which is very conservative thing as
far as religion and religion and some cultural like you know,
typically you don't see stuff like that from certain African
or but a lot.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Of times, not to interrupt you, a lot of time,
money make bring out the worst in you.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
Correct, they shouldn't know who the fuck you really are?
Right But okay, so now the dudes that's doing that,
they ain't broke. The billionaires and millionaires they can afford
to just walk down the street and give out fifty
grand to every tenth person if they want. Right, So
they see somebody they like, hey, are you like if

(24:44):
I fly you out over here, you come over here?
Everything's on me this and that?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
What hell?

Speaker 8 (24:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (24:50):
One thing though, you gotta you know, be with the ship.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Well, there's the whole community of people who know that
that's what's happening, you know what I'm saying, And they
know we're to look. I'm gonna look over here because
I know that this person is down with that, and
and I can fly them out here. So it's a
whole community I'm sure of people, And where the connections
are they know where the connections are.

Speaker 7 (25:12):
Initially, initially all you saw was girls taking pictures in Egypt.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Egypt.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
It's like that.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Let me tell So with with the with the use
of the internet and all the different social platforms like
what's app and what's the other one starts with a
see mm hmm. Well, the different social platforms what was
it called chat? It's called let me see I have it?
Of course, telegram of course, what's that? Signal? And Viber

(25:59):
where they can have groups of people who do you know,
take part in these different things, and you know, you.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
Find your community, is what I'm trying to say, You
find your community.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
So we did have an episode not that long ago
where we had some young ladies who were into these
certain kinks and stuff like that, and like you said,
they did the motivation was money.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Money.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
It wasn't because they were into and they liked it.
Whatever they had to do it.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
It's quick money, yeah, money, and they needed the money.
And I feel like that's exploitation and you're not participating.
You gotta agreeing to participate fully if you're just doing
it because you need the money. Because it's one thing
that like this is what I'm into and this is
what I enjoy and that's why I'm doing it. But
it's another thing that's like I got to feed these
kids over here, so I have to do. How about

(26:52):
people that have sex with dogs and stuff? Facts?

Speaker 3 (26:57):
That is true, that is true, want something for money,
a lot of money, so to do it?

Speaker 2 (27:04):
He had a He had a good question and this
was this was brought up before. When you have I'm
gonna say women, but there's men and women to do it,
but majority of women. So when you have women that
engage in those type of activities only because of the money,
you know, something that they typically would not have done
because but they you know, they're destitute, whatever. But you

(27:24):
think that it's being exploited with some sort of exploitations.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
I feel like it is. But I guess if you
you walk into it, yeah and you agree, I guess
I don't feel it is you feel like, well, I
don't tell what you're saying, Like if you know, my
weakness is like I need money, and then you come
up with this kind of stuff, so I can agree
to it. Because of the money.

Speaker 7 (27:45):
Everybody's weakness money, but money is the most of the
world is poor. Yeah, So if I'm a billionaire and
I offer somebody one hundred thousand dollars just to I
just changed your life.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
I know that that's true.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
And and some people's lives get changed with twenty five dollars, right,
So just think.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
About indecent proposal right in three days with his lady, right,
I want you to take that for the team ahead.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Wow wow wow wow wow wow. And are you going
to look at her the same after that?

Speaker 3 (28:25):
What you mean? Yeah, I'm not looking at it, and
same millionaires.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
You are shopping, you ain't looking at it.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
I'm not even I'm not even a supper.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
So you're never gonna think about it again. It's just
gonna go like that. But what Wow, he's your see.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Him in his head thinking like she's gonna hands to
somebody afraid and she can go ahead and get a
million dollars.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Okay, check it out, check it out. How many versions
is on this bend?

Speaker 4 (29:00):
None?

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah, right, emaciculate conceptionally Mary called Mary will get him
there is married.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
So okay, nobody's a version on here. Everybody had had
a partner, plying to us, we don't know what they happened, right.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Right right to us.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
After us though, that's that doesn't become you problem.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
That you can't let somebody go get a million dollars.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Okay, so would you do it?

Speaker 10 (29:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
So you guys, you guys can't see his face, but
his face is of straight confidence.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
I'm taking one for the teams.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
It's too funny, I ain't.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
So so okay. They always post these crazy questions on Facebook.

Speaker 7 (29:50):
Would you allow somebody to either die or punch your
mom or punch your sister for fifty thou fifty million?
And and the question is always yes. I mean the
answer is always yes.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
No.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
I'm gonna tell you you know what's funny because listen,
they had that same question, would you all right, well,
let's go back to this man. We said, if your
mom was a if your mom was a serial killer,
would you would you tell on her knowing that she's
out here killing all these people?

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Right?

Speaker 4 (30:28):
They said the money, if it was a million dollar reward, No, it's.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Okay, so there is so you protect your mother, but
not your wife or your girlfriend.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
Right, I ain't tell nobody.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Actually, that's a good idea. That's a really good idea.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
We just switched the parameter a little bit.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
You know what, I mean that is a really good idea.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
One night most I mean how long sex last? Bro?

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Like three minutes? Second?

Speaker 6 (31:06):
So the second for a five million dollars or figure out,
come on.

Speaker 8 (31:16):
Mbody in a weekend, baby, go ahead, go have fun.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
That check first, you gotta make sure that ain't rubble.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Okay, I don't hear anything from the women. What are
the women saying? I don't hear y'all solid? Yeah, what
do y'all say? Women?

Speaker 3 (31:39):
They flapp against it. You'll be all right, I'm going.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
To take one for the team, all right.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
So, so so women go to be sleeping on the couch.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Already.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
So so so women, would you would you if somebody
offered your man offered you to have sex with your
man for a million dollars for one night for your
man man? Would you would you do it.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
With my man?

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Yeah, Yeah, they're gonna give me one mining yeah. Okay,
So well that's the same thing. That's the same, that's
exactly the same, he's saying.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
So in an indecent proposal. Right, let's say, all right,
you and I am married, right, so you have a
guy that comes and offers me a million dollars for
him to sleep.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
With you right right.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
So first and he was saying yes he would, he say, yeah,
gave me the money. You take one for the team,
goad and sleep with my wife for you know, whatever.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Day.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
So now the opposite question is for you women.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
If will I let my man do it?

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Sure, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Four million dollars, okay, for.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
He don't do what I'm mad? Wait a minute, wait
a minute. So I'm starting to hear a very double
standard here.

Speaker 6 (33:01):
I would too. I guess I can go ahead and
knock a bag, knock a back out, give me that.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Million, just right, y'all, y'all are too funny, that million dollars.

Speaker 9 (33:12):
I'm benefiting.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yes, it's only for one night.

Speaker 9 (33:15):
Now I'm benefiting.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
And I know he's going to give it to me
like he's given me that money.

Speaker 10 (33:21):
So I'm good.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
You good.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
I can't say he's gonna give me the money. I don't.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Well, I'm gonna say me personally, and this is all
in all honesty. No, not for a million dollars.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Now, So you wouldn't sleep with the woman, Oh I
would do it. Oh, but you wouldn't let your wife
sweep with the man. Wow, Okay, that is a clear
double standard. Yeah, absolute double standard.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Uh because you know why because for me, money is
not everything. I'm not really driving clearly.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
By the way you dressed me, know it, money is
that it was Celesto all.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Listen, you know how.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Many you know how much money? A million?

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, but you know what, I lived by most of
my life without hitting a million dollars, So I'm sure
I can go with another and it's not as much money.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Talk about family dynamic, to.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Be fair people all the time without taking money to
the table.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
Right.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
But you know, but I'm gonna tell you this, Like
I said, you know, I've been one hundred are all
my life, so I can I can you know, continue
being a hundred air He was so amazing you are.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
All right?

Speaker 1 (34:41):
No, no, no, it's because it's not because of the money.
It's because he cannot. He doesn't do his stuff like that.
He has to be close to you and all of that.
I know you before doing stuff like that, so he'll
probably have to go on dates and it's too stressful
stuff you're talking about. If I was the one who
had to do the do you know, do the actual
action that he can't do it, not because he doesn't

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want the money.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Thought you said you would have sex with the woman,
but you wouldn't let your wife have sex.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Okay, okay, so what's your what's your purpose behind that purpose?

Speaker 7 (35:15):
From behind what not allowing your lady to do it?
I mean I feel I feel away. But so you're
gonna go get that meal.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Let me tell you, let me tell you. The real
reason is One, I know I'm gonna look at her differently.
That's one that's gonna change. I already know. Two, it's
kind of like.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
You look at it.

Speaker 7 (35:35):
You can look at her differently from inside of a maid,
you can look at it from a bad friend or may.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
No, I just I know I know it would mess
with me psychologically, So I already know that. Then Two,
it's kind of like, you know, you have to have
some type of standard, like like for me, I would
never I would never buy a prostitute.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Who's feedback we get?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I think that was that's e J And.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
That would be torture. That night, you know, just wondering
what's going on.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
You ain't gotta wonder, you know what's going on past?

Speaker 5 (36:11):
Yeah, do you ever wonder about your wife's past? Now?

Speaker 4 (36:16):
No, that's because you don't have a wife right now.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Well, I'm gonna tell you even even I've never worried
about anybody's past because we had a we had a
we had a podcast about that one. It was like that,
that's just a bad deal. Those are things you don't ask.
You don't want to know, so don't ask, don't And
I'm sure you know I'm pretty much an open book myself.

(36:40):
I don't you know, I don't care. But that's up
to them. They want to ask those questions.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
If they really want if yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yes, sir, you.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Know, I honestly was trying to figure out the accent.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
I'm I was. I was good watching movies and relaxing.
Did she come in here?

Speaker 8 (37:04):
Paul is sending me this this text till I get
on the get on here, and they just they just
forced my hands.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
So if you I'm going to get included.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
You I appreciate it, and I'm so glad you're here.
I'm absolutely glad you're here.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
All right, So changing changing directions a little bit, What
are some common myths about kinks and fetishes and all
that type of stuff, even fantasies.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
So wait before that, that would like sleeping with like
animals be a fantasy, that.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Would be well, that can be a fantasy, but that's
also could be a fetish and a kink.

Speaker 6 (37:40):
And that is discussing exactly what you said.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
What what's the question, Brian?

Speaker 2 (37:46):
The question is I forgot my Yeah. What are some
common Yeah, some common myths and misconceptions about kinks and
fetishes and all that.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Ah, myth was I know a myth? Two myth.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Miss gil.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (38:20):
You know how the girls be uh eating button nowadays
salad that comes from well they say that it came
from a devil worshiping coot like witches and things like that.
Really used to have to kiss the devil's ass.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
That's like that's the way they bowed out.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Oh, people put everything on the devil that they want
to feel a certain way about, you know, like that's
the devil.

Speaker 10 (38:49):
You know.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
It's just like, take responsibility for what you're doing. Stop
trying to ball want no, we can. I'm good, I
don't have to go.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
It's definitely a checkerable myth.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
I think one of the myths is that everybody is
doing it and people are not saying that they do.
You know what I'm saying, Like the myth is I
don't do this. It's like nobody's doing this right. Every
nobody wants to take responsibility, wants responsibility for it, but
everybody's doing it in some kind of way.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
So you're saying that the myth is that that everybody
is doing.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
It right and you know, but nobody's but nobody's saying
that they're doing it, you know, no, no fetish and
fetish or kink or some kind in general like spanking,
spanking is a is a you know, a kink. Everybody's well,
I can't say everybody.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
You know people.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Right, but you wouldn't put it in that category. It's right, right,
but you know you wouldn't put it in that category.
So that's what I'm saying. People claim that they're not
doing it, but at some point somebody's doing these things
or we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Speaker 6 (39:59):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
So another misconception is that maybe people who are into fetish's,
kinks and fantasies that they have they're sexual deviant.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
Yeah, that's that's crazy, okay, but some.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
People believe that.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
Yes, absolutely, and I.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Think a lot of clergymen will tell you that until
they get behind closed doors.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Absolutely. I mean Let's come on, let's put it out there.
Let's look at the Capitol Church. All right, you know,
we let's put it out there. Let's look at the
Catholic Church. They will tell you that the all of
these things, you can't have sex without marriage and all
of these, all of these things. But look at what
they're doing behind closed doors. Stop.

Speaker 7 (40:37):
That's just that's kind of blown up because you're looking
at somebody that's supposed to be a holy person.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
So when you hear that right there, going you can
be It only takes one thing to be a sinner.
You can be holy your whole life. Once you send
you you're a sinner.

Speaker 7 (40:56):
So once you're looking at it, like say you're looking
at the boat, and then you find out the pope
either dibbled a little boy or whatever the case may be,
Oh my god, because of they're in the first and foremost,
they're in the spotlight everybody.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Then they looked at as holy as a vow. And
then on top it's like you was preaching.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
This but right, and that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Like a lot of people on that, A lot of
people don't like hypocrisy.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
For one, right, that's the main key.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
And especially when you're being judgmental.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
And uh, conservative politicians.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Oh god, we just talked about that a few Republicans
that just came out with these six charges.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Right right, you know, or you you know, you on
the down low instead of you know, but you're preaching
they don't do this and don't do that. But you
know you're going behind closed doors.

Speaker 8 (41:55):
So I always remember, I'm just saying, I always remember,
man is going to be man and woman is gonna
be woman. I mean, you know, we're gonna do what
we do. And religion is just a thing to me,
I'm not speaking for nobody else. It's a thing that
can possibly guide you in a way that you want
to be you want to be guided in, you know.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (42:18):
But it shouldn't it shouldn't really play so much of
a part on your you're in the room behavior. You
know what I'm saying that if you like doing what
you do, and I mean there's certain things that I'm
not gonna do it, and I'm not gonna allow my
lady to do and anybody else. If you don't want
to do a certain thing, don't do it, right, you

(42:38):
know what I'm saying. If it's gonna disgrace you. Disgrace
you don't do it. If you want somebody, you want
fifty grand poop on your somebody poop on your chest
or something. You get a million dollars a weekend rendezvous
with somebody. If that's what you're wanna do, you do it.
But I'm just saying me myself and hopefully my lady,

(43:01):
we're gonna have limitations.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
We don't have the limitations.

Speaker 6 (43:07):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
So with that said, can exploring that person's kinks, fantasies,
or fetishes be healthy? I mean healthy and healing in
some way?

Speaker 4 (43:17):
I think I think it can be healthy if your
two consentants of consenting adults, I think it can be healthy.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
So how could it be healthy?

Speaker 4 (43:28):
Because you're exploring that with your partner and you're showing
parts of you're being vulnerable with your partner.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
So you're building trust.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
Yeah, you're building trust, and you're showing your partner what
it is that you like and what you enjoy. And
he said it could be a double edged sword, and
I could see that because your partner could be like,
oh no, m she a freak, and I don't want
no parts of it. So I guess it's something you know,
it's hard for you to sometimes step out of the
box because of fear. And I think that that's why

(43:56):
all of this is done behind closed doors and we're
all talking about it because people fear what other people
are gonna say.

Speaker 10 (44:03):
So sometimes both of them want it right, and the
fear is who's gonna initiate it, like, because in his
mind he might be like, for instance, these likes to toss.

Speaker 6 (44:14):
The salad right, so, and I may like it, right,
but who's gonna initiate that. I'm gonna say, you know what,
let me touch yourself.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
Well, you know what, the conversation. The conversation is the
key to it all, I think.

Speaker 8 (44:34):
Because if you if you can communicate with your your
significant other. Let's just say, if he like his salad
toss and you say, well, baby, I'm not with that,
a baby, I'm with that, but I won't mind toss too,
then y'all just communicated what each other wants, right right

(44:57):
with with with With communication, you know, you we find
out what uh she or he likes.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Okay, that's the key that's empowering. Okay, Okay, So communication
is the key and and and that's gonna you know,
we're gonna have another question about that, so I'll bring
it up now. So when in your relationship should you
have those questions about these things, the kinks, the fantasies, and.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Even I think a lot of communications is nonverbal.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
You said, yeah, it could be nonverbal, yes, Felix, when
when in your and.

Speaker 8 (45:38):
My lady we talked, So it could it could be
right after this podcast.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Uh, it could be when you ready.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
So you do have to open up that space, you know,
you do have to open up that space, have the
opportunity for to have the Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 8 (45:58):
If I want all my asks, she said, no, I'm
gonna say, okay, you know, but hey, and.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Here's a question for and this is a man man
only question. So say she does something to you and
at the time you enjoy it, but in the back
of your mind you're like, where's she learned that from?
Is that going to be an issue?

Speaker 2 (46:19):
No, it's going to be for somebody.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
That's the biggest issue.

Speaker 8 (46:24):
Yeah, if I enjoy it me and myself personally, If
I enjoy it, but she knows certain things that don't
even play with me like that, you're gonna walk past
the threshold, you feel. So if I if I enjoyed myself,
I may notify her be like, yeah, baby, damn.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
How you did you see that on the TV?

Speaker 8 (46:49):
Joe Bloke from way back when it did that. You
know that's gonna be a conversation for me and her
to have. And I mean, I don't like like Z said,
ain't nobody on here, nobody in here, virgins And first time,
you know, my girl got kids.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
I got kids.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
One of my kids is on the phone right now.

Speaker 8 (47:11):
Yeah she's wrong though, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
And she got kids, right, you feel me? So, I mean,
we're all grown.

Speaker 6 (47:22):
If you like it, do it, enjoy be yourself.

Speaker 8 (47:26):
You ain't got to come out of the room or
at the house and be like yeah, you know, man,
I like to get my selling talk you know what
I'm saying, and stick a finger my butt at the
same time.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
And man, it's going down, you.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Know, definitely going down.

Speaker 8 (47:43):
So funny.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
It's so funny.

Speaker 8 (47:46):
I mean, I'm not I mean, you know, if that's
what you do, that's what you do at happen over here.
But you know, we we as adults. If you don't
talk to your partner and tell them what you dislike
and what you like you fail in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Okay, good point. So let me ask you this, Felix. Yeah, so,
how does if you get into a certain situation, how
does the shame and secrecy affect somebody's mental or emotional health?
All right, so how does this affect you know, being it,
you know, as a secret or you might feel some shame.

(48:28):
How can that affect somebody's mental health?

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Can it? Yeah? I mean what you mean by shame?

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Okay, So let me ask you something, so not not
actually personally, but let's say you decide to do something
like exhibit A, and then after example, for example, like
tossing salad right bond her hands or yeah, so after
that you start thinking, remember, all right, you're going to
have oh who taught her that?

Speaker 5 (48:59):
Or why do I like that?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
You know, some guys might say, okay, you know, if
I enjoyed it, that might make me gay. So that
could cause some type of you know, emotional you know,
mental health issues in that that particular area.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Right, I guess so.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
Society has made us feel shameful about a lot of things,
you know, and I think that that's what it is
I think society and religion and culture has made you
feel shameful about a lot of stuff.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Well, but but I don't think so. It's just that,
I mean that plays a part.

Speaker 7 (49:33):
Yeah, I mean personally, like, okay, let's okay, let's okay,
let's let's just say the taboo ship, right, okay, everything
anally it's taboo, right all right. So to delve in
that area, you already crossing the borderline and going into

(49:54):
some different passages, right, no doubt you already. I mean,
who don't want to explore their partner?

Speaker 4 (50:03):
But my question is where did that taboo come from?
That's what I'm saying. Religious, it had to come from somewhere.
You aren't born saying that don't do this, you know, it.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Comes from somewhere because that's not the regular way.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
But in out but in some societies, some society that
was it was perfectly okay, yeah Moore, the Greeks, So
it wasn't. It wasn't until lovers but okay, but it
wasn't until the you know, religion was inserted in there

(50:40):
and they you know, had some type of control. So
outside of that, you know, most of the things that's
taboo is because of you know, certain religious doctrines, and
I think somebody put that on you.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
It's not you didn't. You're not born with shame and
you're not born with saying oh my god, I shouldn
do that. It's put on you like people tell you
don't do this, People tell you you're born.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
With all of it.

Speaker 6 (51:07):
I believe, yeah, man.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
And I think you're born with all of it. But
until you know, it's just there. So once you know
something is the only way you can be ashamed of it.

Speaker 9 (51:19):
Karen, you had something, I said, anything ain'tal and men
that's taboo.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
It's just period, right, And you know what, and I agree.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Me personally, I agree unless you're gay like a man.

Speaker 9 (51:34):
Seriously, unless you're gay, then men and aintal is taboo.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Oh right, yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
So here's a scenario with that said. Right, So you
have two people having the conversation. There was two people
in a you know, relationship, said you talk to your meat,
you want to have those conversations. So the woman says, hey,
I want to do this to you that the inn
lingus right, and she says it's totally normal.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
What ever?

Speaker 2 (52:00):
And the guy says, no, I'm not doing that. She says,
it's normal.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
A lot of guys like it. He says, no, that's gay.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Right, A lot of guys like.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Easy, because you know, because of social media. You know,
these are questions that come up. Just like I got
the scenario, these questions come up on social media. So
in that case, is a person wrong, don't to say
A guy says, well, no, I think anything that has
to do with that, you know, you gay, especially if
you got your leagues up.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Well, it's his personal preference to not like something, right,
you know that that's his personal preference. If that's he
don't want to do it, then he don't want to
do it, and she has to respect him not wanting
to do it, you know, and vice person.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Women start eating, but.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
They've always had they probably always had us.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Anything about it, but.

Speaker 8 (52:59):
They if they getting shipped off for fifty grand, you
don't think they're eat a little booty for.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
Free, right? Right?

Speaker 4 (53:07):
How about that.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
For free too?

Speaker 2 (53:10):
I mean, I'm just saying it goes back to it
goes back to you know, we're in the technological age,
so a lot of things you can see, you can read,
you can hear, you can you can watch on TV TV,
so all these things give you, you know, all these
different ideas. Like Felonia said certain things that she never
knew about until she saw that movie Fifty Shades of Great.

(53:31):
Oh you got it write this time, So I think
that does matter. But this time, the times are you
have so much access information. Information is everywhere, and some
things you shouldn't. Is that a that's a gift in
a curse?

Speaker 4 (53:49):
That's a guess. Technology is a gift.

Speaker 10 (53:52):
Yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Is undefeated.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yeah, all right, So where we already talked about this.
Where should we draw the line between a healthy kink
and a harmful behavior? I know, uh Jordan line, will
you lam Chop said, as long as you're consenting adult.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
If you're uncomfortable and you tell your partner you're uncomfortable,
then that's off the table. Now, how about when one
partner is into stuff like that and the other person isn't.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
How do you got to have a healthy, healthy balance?
And you know, the thing is you have to know
you wouldn't want your partner to do something that they're
uncomfortable with because that's not going to be enjoyable. So
when you have that dialogue and that comes up and
the person says, well, hey, you know, I don't think
I want to do that. That's making this makes me uncomfortable.
Then you should just say, okay, I'll accept that.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
You can go do it outside.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
But people do.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
So all right.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Social media the and string that had come up that
had come up where a couple wanted to do certain things.
The I think was it the woman or man, but
either way they didn't want to do it, but the
the other partner wanted them to be happy and satisfied.
So they said, okay, you know what, I'm not going
to do it, but I'll let you go out and
do just that. Just don't don't bring any emotional ties

(55:21):
so it does happen.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
How About how about as a woman and I'm like,
you know what, I want to try where we have
multiple guys.

Speaker 6 (55:33):
I want to hear that.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
I want to try having guys at the same time.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
He said, he said, do you want to be a caboose?

Speaker 4 (55:46):
But it would be okay, I'm sure if explode to
women or.

Speaker 6 (55:50):
So, let me tell you.

Speaker 5 (55:53):
Let me tell you.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
So he reminded me of something. Right, So when a
guy has a threesome, right, a male into females, be
call it a threesome, right.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
So what do you call it's also three?

Speaker 3 (56:04):
What do you call it?

Speaker 2 (56:06):
What did you say?

Speaker 6 (56:07):
It's a tree?

Speaker 2 (56:12):
So let me tell you.

Speaker 5 (56:14):
Right, all right, so that's good.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
So the guys, the guys, now, would you would you
if your wife says, hey, you know, I want to
have a threesome two women, women, two women, and you
would you agree? What if your wife or your mate says, hey,
I want to do a threesome with you and two women,

(56:40):
would you agree?

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Women?

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Two women, two women?

Speaker 1 (56:43):
And she wants to bring her friend. She wants to
bring her friend.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Into the mix.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Yes, moms is agreeing.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
I can speak.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, I'm saying like if she involved.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
Yes, gonna be involved. Yeah, you're gonna do it, upon
it and.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
She cool with it.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Yeah, she's the one asking, she's the one to ask her.
She's asking like if I bring my friend, would you
do it? Like, let's with my friend, let's do something.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
So like.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
Every everything is good, everything is good, everything's doing definitely.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
So now here's here's an issue. Here comes here comes
the little double standing.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Getting the emotions too much with that.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Okay, So now here's the thing. All you, all of
the guys said yes, they would agree, they would commodate
a commodate.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
Their meat because they're generous, generous.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
So now now here comes the problem. I mean, I
won't see a problem. Here comes to the cabin other questions. Hey, hey,
you watching you get drilled by.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Double standing?

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Well so, so the guy says, the woman says, hey, hey,
you know I let you do it? Can I do it? Guys, fellas,
what are you saying?

Speaker 5 (58:06):
No?

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Nothing for me selfish?

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Okay, So I'm gonna say no. But see here's the thing.
I'm gonna take this. You asked to do it, So
you can't blame the guy for saying no.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
How about the guy?

Speaker 4 (58:16):
What what if the guy it's one of his fantasies
or something. Well, some guys do that, did he so mine?
Not diddy? Some people maybe want to have a threesome.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Yeah, some people do that.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
And then if you do, if I say okay, yeah,
and I want okay, let's try the other one.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
So no, we're talking about if the guys would agree
to having.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
The two guys, they should be able to agree.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
No, that that's not connected. There's no connection to it,
because if you asked, If you ask.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
That's what I'm saying, if I didn't ask, like you say,
you come to me and say, hey, you know what,
I want to try a threesome with you and your friend.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
I'm like, okay, okay, so then it'll be your responsibility
to say yes, I will do it if you do it,
no if I say no, because because just because you agree,
just because you agree doesn't.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
Mean exactly, oh wow, we can all right, I mean yeah,
it is a double standard.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
List the world is the double standards.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
I don't know why men think that way.

Speaker 7 (59:19):
Like those women, let's let's let's let's look at this
deep right, Okay, okay, if I had two women, right,
are those women entering me?

Speaker 1 (59:32):
It doesn't that's the pass. That's that's how women. That's
women's biological feature.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Answer answer this question, but answers question.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
But you're entering them exactly because right with that.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Said, all men built the same Nope, No, okay.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
So you said that to say what to say, there's
a biological difference. Let him speak.

Speaker 7 (59:56):
First things first, we could go down the bond En route,
we can do all of that different stuff, but we're
gonna skip all of that. It's a difference between a
male and female physique.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Correct. Okay, Now, ain't no women entering, no man, Ain't no.

Speaker 7 (01:00:22):
All you can do is I mean majority of time
when that's happening, the females kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
They interested a little bit in that as well.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
That's a lie. Confused, have you had a threesome?

Speaker 7 (01:00:40):
Okay, So the females that do be having threesomes perjority
of time, they're.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Doing a little bit of liking too, so they.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
So, really, the woman is the one.

Speaker 7 (01:00:54):
That's running that threesome, you, Paula, You know that we
know people had done this and do this.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
My brother one of them, and and it's very common,
and it's very common for the two women one man
scenario up the dude.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Yeah, I'm getting it off and everything. Yeah, I'm really
just a sex toy in this situation.

Speaker 10 (01:01:18):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:01:20):
If females is the ones really having the fun, they
are the ones that's running the whole situation.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I agree, So we should be actually congratulated for participating.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
And then the man the other way. They just weight tons,
that's it. So what's the big deal the weight turn right? Right,
they're taking turn turns.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
They getting busy, they yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
Because there's other things that they could do.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Just going on over here, poking on over there, fingering.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Going on over So what's the big what's the big
deal about the two guys? Why are men so opposed
to that, especially straight man?

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Because it's a gay.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Guys going to be doing to you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
Entrying ones, you know, the feeling of right but.

Speaker 6 (01:02:14):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
So let me tell you, Let me tell you why,
Let me tell you why. There's there's a there's a
there's a kind of taboo with that because one, I
know most guys and we've had conversations about this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
There that's number one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
That's number one, right too, there's a chance that you
might another exactly or something like get slung on you
in game over is out it's done exactly. So yeah,
So so that for for most guys, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
In their head, okay, and it's oh, they just care
that maybe the other guy might be better and like
it could be to it could be they could feel
like the other man might better.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
I got you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Be better than your security. Yeah, a stream louder than
how I scream with him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
You know, that's when you put her out, you got
because of the size of it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:23):
Well, here's the thing you gotta you have to lay
down the rules.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
There's always rules.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
You better not be looking like you're happier.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
Than me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
You've been scream louder. Who you got if you don't
play by the rules and don't play right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
So just be quiet requires the whole time, like we're
having a good.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Time, a serious face.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
How about people?

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
How about people that I've heard situations where someone was
ripped before and then you kind of enjoy.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
That, you know, and then you want to try the
violence of it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Yeah, probably have a fetish or.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
King for.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Okay. So so before we're going to you know, before
you wrap this up, we're gonna go over some some
common kinks, right, and these have names, So let me
know if you've heard of it or not. Okay, and
if you have done it, you could say that too,
all right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Ain't nobody admitting to this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
B D S M Heard of it?

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
Heard of it?

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Definitely heard of it, okay, role play.

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
Baby daddy, what.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Baby b D discipline?

Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
Heard of it? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
I didn't hear the formal.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
Term of it, all right. The general term is b
D S.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Yeah, role play. Everybody's heard that. Yes, dirty talk, yes,
hair pulling, slash spanking.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Yes, about sensory play.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Okay, we can get that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
Yeah, it's coming, it's coming power play.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Yes, well that's that's that's going into submission lane.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
But ye, yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
It is foot fetish.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
We just heard of it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
That's just fetishism. I mean, that's all kind of fetishism.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Okay, leather or latex fetish.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
But hey, spank me baby.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Uniform fetish, Yeah, anybody here wear uniform or did wear
a uniform?

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
You, I'm glad you got.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Body part fetish. That's pretty common. Object fetish, meaning like
if you into shoes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
But let's let's go back. But pats like you're somebody
who eats stuff like that. Some people are some people
like I want to leak it, or like some people
body part FETs.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
You might want to male arm pits.

Speaker 8 (01:06:00):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Vororism.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
I thought you was on object better. Oh you did
that one already, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Warriorism, yeah, explain, that's basically you get aroused by watching
others engaged and sexual activity. And it's different.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
This is voyeurism is more or less live Okay, Like
what's that wedding?

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Yes, like like peaking?

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Yeah, what is what? What is that web they have
like multiple sects, yeah, or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
Uh no, if you're watching a right if physically they
are watching, not watching on TV.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
So like if if you know I'm looking your window
like I'm looking at your window. Exhibitionism yep, what does
that mean?

Speaker 8 (01:06:55):
That? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
That means you like toash, yes, get excited about be uniaked.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Like outside like you, I'm shy whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
CUK holding A CUK holding is when you watch your
partner with someone someone else, often being humiliated or being submissive. Right,
you get into that and if.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
You I don't think I've ever heard that word, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
That's a that's a big COmON porn term.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
Something else.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Holding maybe holding, Yeah, I don't know. Cut holding is
when you're the pronunciation is c K. It's usually a
guy who likes watching his girl get done in.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
Okay, right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
The Spanish people got a good name for that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
What's it called.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
What used to be saying? I forgot? I forgot what
it used to be saying, I'm thinking of it?

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Praise or degradation kink. So that's people who get get into,
you know, being put on a pedestal, treated like a goddess,
or being degraded basically you know likesh Yeah, yeah, some
people actually.

Speaker 6 (01:08:14):
Getting there in order and how they be liking to
wear papers and his.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
Yes, oh that's coming down, that's coming Yeah, that's what
is that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Do fear play That means you playing with fear.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
Like maybe that's what you were just talking about, like scared.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Like I know you like the Colonius likes to watch
horror movies, right, yeah, and then you have to get
that one seat that's all way in the back.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
You mentioned sensory deprivation, right, blindfolds, ear muffs, you know,
anything that anything that doles your senses, right, and then
you have your your play. Temperature play. That's people who
like to use hot wax, ice ice ice cream, ice cream, yes,

(01:09:12):
whipped cream, electro play. You know, I haven't heard it
that being shot.

Speaker 5 (01:09:17):
Not me.

Speaker 6 (01:09:18):
I'm gonna try that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Tickle fetish. I know both my co hosts have tickle fetish.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
Yeah we do, not, I don't we do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Now here's some fantasy based kinks.

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
The age play. That's you know, we were just talking
about that pet play. I was just recently watching I
don't know, it's a little bit off the topic, watching
CUSI and They had this whole convention where these people
would dress up like animals, you know, and that was
their their little kink. They would puppies and cats and
that kind of thing. So that takes you down to

(01:09:52):
furries dressing up, you know, like animals characters. That's something
that's you know, a cool play fantasy involving doctors, nurses
and that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
So okay, so did any of these jump out to you, guys?

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
I was gonna say stuff like touching nipples, holding nipples
will be what will be considered painful?

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
That would be when nipples it's like pain if it's
if it's causing you pain and you like it. Elect
for guys, the guy from Angola, I.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Don't know if you have to Oh yeah, yeah, that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
Will be that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Maybe this would be body part fetish.

Speaker 6 (01:10:33):
Maybe stop.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
Okay, y'all starting already, We're almost done, were almost.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Done with the podcast, all right, so lastly, let me
thank you guys for actually coming in.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
Yes, this is an interesting time.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
And as lamb Chop said, consent is everything, you know,
everything that you decide to jump into. Make sure that
they're legal and consentsual, and that means they can't be
knocked out on the you know pills.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Imagine you're dying while doing BDST attack.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
It was a rock star recently, well not recently, maybe
some years back who died from auto Yeah, he tied
himself up, tied himself up on the door, and the
closer you get to death, you have an orgasm. But
it went a little bit too far, and he hung himself. Yeah,

(01:11:29):
that is a thing. That is a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
And he hung himself and he thought, and you know
a lot of times that's videotaped or they'll put they'll
have themselves hanging and then they will have like porn
magazines on the floor. The reason why I know this
is because we had you know, evidence videos, no no,
no evidence videos where the person you know, you going
and investigate some a death, a suspicious death, and that's
what that's the senior said. So what they do is
they like to be strangled. Yeah, okay, and then while

(01:11:55):
they're doing whatever, it gives them extra excitement. But sometimes
it goes a little bit too far before you know,
before they really realize that, hey, there's I'm at the
point of no return and.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
I can't get out of this. And he died. He
died yeah, so so yeah, we need to be careful.

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