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April 28, 2025 • 64 mins
In part two of this topic, Hot Topix Podcast Team and women guests discuss one of the most controversial and often whispered-about topics in dating culture: body count. Why is it that a high number of sexual partners is seen as a badge of honor for men, but a red flag for women? We unpack the cultural double standards, the influence of media and social conditioning, and how generational shifts are changing the conversation. From personal stories to expert insights, we're talking about shame, pride, judgment, and the real impact of these numbers on relationships. Whether you're keeping track or couldn't care less, this episode will get you thinking.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
You're listening to the Hot Topics Podcast Cycle forty one,
the Lovely Lady Lamb Chop and the Fabulous Colonius Feather.
Let's get into it.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
That needs music, you know the music over in there.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Okay, okay, So welcome, ladies and gentlemen to another episode
of Hot Topics podcast. We have part two of our podcast.
We did the last one was on body counts and
about double standards. So last last week's was We had
two male guests and they gave the perspective of men

(00:44):
on that particular topic and that's their perspective. So today
we have ladies here. This is this is Ladies Night,
and it's going to be all about the ladies and
their perspective, how they view everything but the culture. But
it means to them personally what they think about other
people's body counts doesn't matter. Why the double standard things

(01:04):
like that. So you know, we'll get into it, and
we want to introduce our reoccurring special co host, Penelo Plea, Penela.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Please, Penelope Killer.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
I bumbled something last week to the intimacy. I couldn't
get that out of my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
That's probably scary. That's why you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
And we have the lovely heaven here. How are you?
I'm good, I'd thank you for joining us, of course,
all right, don't be nervous.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
I'm nervous, lord, you know me scared of you.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
So one of the things we talk about body count.
Some people didn't know what body count means. So I
explained to him is basically, your a list of every
person that you've had sexual intercourse with that means penetration,
not to all the extra stuff, penetration that you've had
in your entire lifetime, not in the last week, not
in the last month, not no, you know whatever. So

(02:15):
that's what we call a body count. And you know,
we're going to discuss what are the the taboos with it,
the gender dynamics, because every obviously, and I have a
strong feeling that we're going to have different opinions on
it based on last week's episode and what I got
from social media.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
So what did you get from social media?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Well, well, all right, so it started with a guy
he was interviewing, not interviewing, he was talking to a woman. No,
it was it was the pop the balloon thing, right,
And he was asking the woman how many children children
she had, and how many baby daddies so and and
that's what it kind of it took off from there. Okay.

(02:56):
So but I put it on Facebook, and you know,
the women got in there and it was just, you know,
just gave me a lot of heat.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
It's like absolutely yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
I was like, hey, listen, is a discussion. So you know,
don't get mad at me. So so we do. All right,
we'll start with lamb chop mm hmm. What does body
count mean to you? Personally?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Personally, it's nobody else's business.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Okay, pretty much. That's just kind of how I feel
about it.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
You know, it's easier for me. It's easier for guys
to see their body count. Okay, oh, to be proud
of all stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Don't women. It's true, It's very true. It's very true.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
They'll keep that secret that is secret to the agrieve.
They'll take it to the a greeve like nobody's good.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
To see women.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Yeah, I'm gonna admit that. Okay, I've been passed around
like twenty five times.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Well, this is a different age, you know, and you know,
and people it is, well, people come from different cultural backgrounds.
Stuff like that plant killer Penelope. You are going to
screw that pp.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
But you give her the name. I don't know how
you cannot pronounce it.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Maybe maybe my mouth is dry, Maybe I need a
little wetness in my mouth, you know what.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
So here we go.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
All right, So let me ask you. Let me ask
you a question and be direct. Does body counts? Do
you care about body counts?

Speaker 4 (04:37):
It?

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Does it matter to you?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
People?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Don't say people because.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
People about only a few of them we're.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Gonna talk about. Don't get ahead of us. Don't get
ahead of us. You knew me now because you know
you've been listening to Yes, So all right, heaven for you.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Now, let me put it in penelopes and answer.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
She I think, Okay, do you care about uh person's
body count? Whether it be a person that you're seeing
or another, another woman's or yours, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
Yeah, I care because I know. I want to know
everything about who, I who, my who, my partner is.
I want to know anything about that person life. I
want to know in out that of the upside down
left right. I want to know now details is one thing.
But to answer the question, just answer the question. Yeah,

(05:41):
I want to know anything about them? Yeah, I want
to know.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
And that's fair. That's a fair assumption, right, and.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
And also too because like nowadays, like so much stuff
is going around and you know what I'm saying, I
need to know, you know, shoot, what I'm working with.
So that way, before I decide to women, I need
to see some pay everybody. Let's go to the doctors
like that, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
So okay, but that's another subject we want to we
want to touch on that too, about the doctor medical
aspects to penelople you, how about you just call a
plant lady, plant lady, plant lady, plant killer. Does do

(06:29):
you do you care about a person's body count? What
do you think does it matter to you if the
person that you're dealing with their body count or your
body count? Are you concerned about that?

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Because I'm gonna go and come back.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Okay, okay, So now for you two ladies, why do
you think people care you heard her response, Why do
you think people care about other people's body count? Women?
We're talking about the women's perspective. Why do why do women.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Care about about other women?

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Or they're men? The men's a men's a man's body count?

Speaker 3 (07:03):
For me, I don't they know the like.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
For me, I don't I don't. I don't care.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
You don't care, So why do you think other women care?

Speaker 5 (07:13):
So for me, well, I'm saying why I don't care.
I don't care because I'm like, Okay, men they'll do
what men want to do, you know, like men will
be men. Even if you say, hey, how many people,
half of them will not even be truthful, you know
what I'm saying. So oh, okay, it's just four. Oh,
it's just one. It's just you know what I'm saying.
So I don't care as long as okay, we're together.

(07:34):
Once we're together, it doesn't start counting. That's what matters
to Okay, once we get together, there's no more. That's it.
But before me, yeah, whatever, that's your past. I don't care.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
But you're not concerned at all about a man's past.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
So any any woman that I know that your friend,
whatever you have, there's a possibility that, oh, you probably
went down with that person.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Okay, So now I'm a flippant. Do you care about
your own body? Of course?

Speaker 5 (08:00):
I care about my own body.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Okay, So you you yourself would say, well, I don't
want to you know, I don't want rising numbers.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
Of course, definitely, Why because I'm a woman, why I
protect myself.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
But but why why why do you care about numbers?

Speaker 5 (08:14):
Why do I care? Because I'm not like a public
toilet web everybody just comes and dumb ship in. So yeah,
I care for myself.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Okay, So that's that's a that's a that's a moral
thing with yourself, Yes, your family, your culture. So do
you care about what other people and how.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
They view you?

Speaker 5 (08:33):
I don't want to be somewhere and then half the
guys they'll be like, oh you you too, wow you
you know. No, So it's it's part of my dignity.
It's part of my pride. It's part of why I am.
Like I can freely move on the streets and nobody
knows me and nobody's been like, oh yeah, I've seen her.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
For me, it's it's it's a proud moment. It's something
like for my culture, I don't know about how it's
done here. It's not some thing you want to it's
not something to be proud of that gotcha.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
But for those who don't know, she's Nigerian whatever at
many people need to know.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
So yeah, so for me, it's even forget the Nigerian thing.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
It's just kind of as a woman.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yes, as a woman, Yeah, that's my pride. It's the
same way men don't like you, they don't want to know.
I don't think they want to know who.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
They really don't want me.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
We're not speaking about men.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
I'm not saying, do you want to know who people's
exes are?

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Like? You should have listened to the last podcast. All right,
let's let's go. Can you can you hear a plant lady?
Plant killer?

Speaker 7 (09:42):
I feel well, I have. I have mixed feelings about
the whole topic. I do agree that it's truly nobody's
business what you do acquior to meeting the person that
you're with. But me, I was raised by a man,
so I see things a little bit differently. And uh

(10:08):
not that I'm gonna say that my body is a
public toilet or anything, But I do feel like if
I meet somebody and you know, we might have that
little chemistry or whatever. Uh, if I'm single, I'm gonna
do what single people do until I'll find that once right,
I'm not gonna just you know, I've been with some

(10:29):
people that the sect was just straight terrible. I don't
care how much I like you as a person as
a woman, If you cannot fulfill my needs, I'm on
to the next. And I have been in a situation
where my husband, like we ran in a small like

(10:50):
circle right when I met I met my husband through
my sister's husband, Like when he moved to the Baltimore area,
him and my brother in law reconnected. And every time
I turned around, my husband was that some family of that.
But he had a girlfriend, and he will tell anybody
every time he saw me, I was with a different cat.

(11:14):
Why Because I.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Was single.

Speaker 7 (11:17):
And as a woman, I still had the right, just
like a man, to dip and dab and do what
I want with whom I want and not be judged
because I'm a woman. Miss me with all of that.
I mean, no, I you know, you can't get to
the one until you get through something, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
What I mean.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
Like that's why, that's just my you know opinion, you
know on the thing. Like, nah, I'm not gonna just
sit around and be like, oh, you know, I want
to be virgin Mary. I don't want somebody to say
I have too many bodies. If you had to go
in my clock dist I got bodies in the closet
up under the club, and I'm I'm not ashamed of it.

(11:59):
Like my husband at one point felt some kind of
way because we were at an event, a couple of events,
and other people that I have dealt with were at
those events. My thing is, don't worry about what was
going on with them because I was very much singled.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Okay, so relationship with.

Speaker 7 (12:20):
Any of those cats, I was single.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
So you're you're not concerned about your own body count,
You're not even that's not even an issue for you
at all?

Speaker 7 (12:28):
Okay Now, and everybody ain't no issue for me because
it was prior to me coming. Okay, I don't want
to know. We don't have to discuss that. And I
feel like that's where a lot of people relationships kind
of get rocky because you want to know what's in
my closet, which is in the past, prior to you

(12:49):
being in my life, Like, why are you concerned with it?

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Okay? So now there's it again. Men and women are different.
So we talked to the men. So I'm just getting
the women's perspective on it. What do you say, lamb shop.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
I'm with her, Like, I think that this whole body
count thing is just like another suppression of women.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
I really do.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
I think it's another way for men to hold women
back and judge them differently. I'm okay with who you
were with be prior to me, because that was, like
she said, prior to me, And I really don't feel
like because I also feel like, no matter what number
of women say, men aren't going to believe it. Correct,

(13:34):
you know, I don't. I don't care what number you say.
I agree, right, They're just not gonna believe it. So
it's just like, why are you setting yourself up for
this argument?

Speaker 1 (13:45):
That's a formula?

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Say three.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Three right times one point five?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Oh my gosh, plus eight. You know you're ridiculous. You're ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
So you know, short up, like she said, short up,
you got was going to check out your medical thing.
And if everybody is alright, just do what you do.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
It's okay.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
It's nobody's business.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
So so heaven, you know what I mean? But do
you do?

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Now?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
That's that's from That's how you feel now when you're
going with somebody else, it's not always about what you feel.
So do you think that it would matter to a
man with the body countants?

Speaker 6 (14:25):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, that's why we have in this conversation.

Speaker 8 (14:27):
Yes it matters, I said on one of the previous
podcasts when we talked about the young lady who committed suicide.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
Right, I feel like I said in that podcast that
I was judged a lot, especially by people in my family.
Like my mom would say, I don't even want you know,
I don't even try to get to know their names
because every time I turn around, it's gonna be somebody different.
I didn't care about it. You know, they you know.

(14:58):
After a while it became a running joke. It's but
I'm single. I'm very much single. I'm not gonna sit
in a house and become an old censor because I'm
careful about what society's saying a woman should know. And again,
I was raised by a man, so my dad was like, listen,
if a number ten, number nine going down, get on

(15:20):
that corner, attendance coming up.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Okay, Now do you think she would have said that
to your uncle or your brother or a male member
of your family.

Speaker 7 (15:30):
Absolutely, he would have.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
No, not your dad, your mom.

Speaker 7 (15:39):
The way I moved, do you understand what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Say that Again, the question was do you think your
mom would have said, I'm not gonna, you know, get
to know their names, if it was your uncle or
your brother, or a male member of the.

Speaker 7 (15:51):
Family, if they was moving the way that I was moving,
bringing different people to different events all the time. Yes,
she was busy.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Okay, okay, I'm just trying to figure out if that
was a bias because you are a woman.

Speaker 7 (16:04):
I'm I'm, I do have some of my mother's tendencies
that my mother was not a woman who was just
gonna be like listen, yeah, now he was gonna be
moving to see he found the one too. But no,
she would have said that to my brother. She would
have said it uncle, She would have said it to
her brother. Yeah. Yeah, But there are a lot of

(16:25):
biases when it comes to women. Like if something came
across my TikTok yesterday about women in the fifties, you know,
a thirties or something like that, it was like, make
sure that when he comes home that you don't have
too much conversation for you. Make sure make sure that
the cener is ready, make sure that you don't make

(16:47):
too much noise, So do your vacuuming, you know, like
your house cleaning and stuff when he's out of the hall.
But once he comes home. You were supposed to have
the cocktail of the siblings. And I was like, if you.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Don't get out, yes, she's not to make it to
the end of this podcast. I'm gonna tell y'all.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
So okay, not speaking about how you guys feel. What
are your what are your opinions on how society treats
men versus women when it comes to higher little body counts? Yeah,
so not you, that's for you.

Speaker 6 (17:24):
Oh okay, I need feel like I feel like, you
know a lot of what the last lady was saying
that it's just that techma. They're always going to you know,
there's I just have my grandma's voice in the back
of my you know, heads and even when it comes

(17:45):
down to having children, you know, Mama's babyes top of me.
The way it goes, like that's just the way it goes.
You're going to be judged. You're going to be judged,
especially if you're having multiple parts, you know, and you know,
just out here will with it. You know, there's always
gonna be something said because the woman is supposed to

(18:05):
be held on this out of school that a male
is still not pretty much held on. So I feel
like you know, it's just the stigma that it has,
like you know, growing up, even when you're a kid
like and you're not going to straight get out of
this sit down with your lab's cross or if I'm

(18:28):
talking to a male, get out of a man's face,
like you know, it's always going to be something that's
just always said about women.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Okay, agreed, but not the same move men. You know
that's not you know, all right, So him, I'm gonna
assume this is a consensus on that pretty much, pretty
much much.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
I think for me, the only time I think is
uh a body count issue. And I know we're going back,
but if you have like seven kids kids and five
baby mamas, that's a flag for me, you know, And
it's not really about the body. Yeah, it's probably more
baby counts than body counts, because that's that's a whole

(19:10):
another issue, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
So let's touch on that real quick. If you have
now we're focused on the guys, not so much women. Right,
So you meet a guy and you guys are vibing,
everything's good, and you find out he has four kids, okay,
one one uh from one woman plus or minus.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
One from one woman.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
He has four four from one woman.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
So he has four kids four different women.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
No, four from one woman.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Okay, two women to a piece, Okay, No, that's about me.
I mean because people get married and divorced twice and
they will have separate families.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
All right, so kids again, so what is the what
is the limit? When he all right and he's unmarried,
Let's throw that in there, because I did the same
thing with the guys. Right, he's unmarried.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Four Well, well for you to stay with somebody and
have two kids, well depends on the ages too. It
was like every year one kids. I mean that you
stayed with here for like two years I moved on
or three years I moved on to the next and
then three years. So what makes me an exception?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Fact?

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Right, So if you have four you have a guy
who has four children by four different mothers.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Definitely never Yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
With me.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
That's a lot. And it's not, you know, really based
on how many women he has. It's based on the
drama that's gonna come with that. That is gonna be
a whole lot of mess you know, that comes with that.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
So that means you have to get into the relationship
also with four different women.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Exactly exactly and four different personality five because I'm in
the mix, right yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Just ain't no sister, right right.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
You know.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
So that's a whole lot.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
That's a whole lot, all right. So let me ask
you something like one has has the importance of body
count change over time? Like or each generation? Does it change?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
I don't know because I'm not in the running.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yes, yes it does.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
And you know why I can say yes it does
because these little kids is getting nastier, is starting early, okay,
and they I was doing god.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Knows what, God knows who, you know, early early.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
Yes, early twelve. So I've seen, you know, my cousin.
My cousin had her baby. She was pregnant at twelve,
had a baby at thirteen.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah okay, So and so I mean would you say,
like you think about your grandmother, all right, and your
grandmother's time, what would she have said if it was
a family member, a woman who had three kids by
two different No, no, for get the kids, forget the kids.
Let's say she had she was had many partners, like

(22:10):
maybe five to ten in her twenties, and they knew
about the partners.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
But grandma, she'd be everything, but the child of God,
she really would be.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Right and same right. So that means that it has
changed over generations. Is actually getting the body count thing
doesn't matter the for the newer generations. They're doing it,
they're doing it earlier.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
But no.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
But then I was giving an instance of someone that
I know that the mom, an older woman like a grandma,
that the person realized his dad was not his dad
at think all that age, and the second child the
dad was not the dado. And there's people I'm talking
about that just found out their parents, I mean their
dad is not their dad. One is in like in

(22:58):
his fifties, the other one is like not meat. So
it's so it started before, it says, I don't think
it's it's just it wasn't known then people.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
So that goes back to what Heaven said about you know,
mama's baby poppa's maybe. So maybe there is a thing
that in the back of a guy's head about body counts.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Like I'm sure it is in the back of a
guy's head.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I'm sure it is all right if you ever get
a chance to listen to the last podcast, And because
a lot of points were brought up about why and
how a guy thinks, So that kind of makes a
bit of a difference. It was legitimate. It wasn't like
the whole male ego thing that I'm a man, you're
a woman is different, blah blah blah. Wouldn't anything like that.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
They you know, don't act like men. Don't think that.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Well they do, some of them did, but this was
in our discussion, were actually talking, you know, certain things.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Out so I don't know if it's changed or not.
I know that we are quick to accuse the woman
like a she's getting pregnant by herself, you know, and
b guys that having sex with somebody. It's nothing like that.
You don't you having sex by yourself. You're having sex

(24:06):
with somebody. So if ten of these guys has had
sex with at least ten women, then you know that
at least ten women have a body count, even if
it's just one or two. I'm just saying, like, I
think it's more important to men, to some men than
it is to some women.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
As a mind, do you ever feel ashamed of your.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Body count as a man? No?

Speaker 2 (24:31):
And do you feel like women should?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (24:34):
And no?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Explain away, So, okay.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
So, and we talked about this in the last podcast.
When you talk about a body count and as a guy,
and when you're let's say Susan right now, you're gonna say,
don't take me. Let's say Susan had thirty forty dudes,
right and let's say, Okay, she's in her forties, she's

(25:01):
had long term relationships, she said, short term relationships. Now,
if Susan had forty different relationships and she had forty,
you know whatever. To a guy, I'm gonna look at
it this way. I'm like, Okay, One, that you don't
know how to pick people, your your decision making skills
that are off for one, or you're a problem that

(25:23):
you that you can't stay in a committed or a
long term relationship. So what's the issue. So those are
the flags for me. So under that circumstance, yes, But
if it was a person who was single and you know,
and times are different, you know, went through the teens,
It depends on how early or late you started. You
went through the teens, the twenties and thirties or whatever,

(25:44):
and you were single, you was doing your thing, and
that doesn't matter to most guys. So we talked about that.
What it does matter is how okay?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
So I see, yeah, my brain is just like, what
do you mean?

Speaker 1 (25:58):
So the one of the guests said, okay, well, and
I think I mentioned it too. You can have thirty,
you can have thirty or forty you know, relationships or
what I'm not relations but it's body account right, right,
So it depends now if you're thirty or forty. Was like,
all right, when you had five at a time on
this one and it's at the you know, it's it's

(26:19):
on video, or if it's ten of them are dudes
I know in the neighborhood, or if I'm gonna go
get my haircut, we're gonna talk about a certain person
and like half the people in the in the thing
know about it, right, So yeah that matters. So if
it was somebody like if like if you was in
you was a stewardess or flight attendant, right, and he

(26:39):
was going from place to place and you had people
in different places whatever, nobody cares about that. You know,
that's I'm not going to run into him. You were single,
and you know it wasn't like I'm I'm gonna see it.
On that show when they was talking about freaknik. Okay,
that makes a difference to a guy, right, So yeah,
it doesn't make it difference.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
So let's say, for example, you're not in a relationship
now and you say, hey, uh, what's your buddy? Kind
of like, oh no, just two, three, and then you
eventually find out doing more like ten, twenty whatever. So
would that change anything?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
It would would change because then I would thinking that, Okay,
what else are you hiding from me?

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Right?

Speaker 5 (27:20):
Oh, if we're married.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Well, why does it make no?

Speaker 1 (27:23):
No, no, it doesn't matter. She didn't she didn't ask me.
She didn't ask me. I mean she did ask me
yea like yeah, like just like in gen it matters.
It matters because we had to get the conversation exactly,
so lie to me about it. You could you could

(27:43):
easily said, well, you know what, I don't want to
discuss that. I think it's kind of private, blah blah blah.
But if you say, if you say three or four
or two whatever, and it's twenty and thirty, I have.

Speaker 8 (27:54):
A problem asking why. I guess my question would be like,
why are we asking that question?

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Whatever?

Speaker 8 (28:07):
You understand what I'm saying, because whatever I have done
in my past is my past. But so now I
feel as if okay, I meet you, you asked me
the question. If I say I don't want to talk
about it now in your head, you still you still
got numbers. Run If I tell you two people, you

(28:28):
still got nothing. So so so why even put yourself
in a position to ask a question because I'm not
gonna ask you because I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why. Okay,
Now again, this is this is you're looking at it
from your point of view based on you. Okay, it's
not when you when you get no, but it's done
me no no. But when you're having you're.

Speaker 8 (28:55):
Saying as but as a as a as a woman and.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Or as a man.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
No, I'm saying, right, I feel.

Speaker 8 (29:02):
Like you're setting yourself up for disappointment, for unnecessary stress
when you asked that question, whether it's a man or
a woman, right, because it should not matter what I did.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Or what you did to it. Before we connect.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
To a woman.

Speaker 9 (29:24):
If you listen, hold a second on the side of
the bill, hold hold a second.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Now you're given the perspective of a woman, and that's
what we're talking about, right, So, you can't say that.
Why would it matter to a guy because the guys
have spoken on this right, and it's not invalid what
they said. We can discuss what they said. But it
does matter, and and and there's there's circumstances where it
doesn't matter something. Some it doesn't matter to people. Some

(29:49):
it does. And and one of the things is we're
talking about you would ask the question does body count
relate to your your moral code or or a person insecurity,
whether it be a man or woman. Okay, so what
is both? So if a guy says, a guy says
to you has it in his head? Well, you know
what if I have a woman who has a high

(30:10):
body count, I want to know because I want to
know what her morals are, you know, based on you know,
if we're compared.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
Why do I have to have poor morals if I
have a high Because the standards are different for a man.
Society says that a man can knock a woman off,
have undred and twenty nine wives. And we're supposed to
just sit back and again, bring your little Martine.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Slip to the door, don't ask no question.

Speaker 8 (30:36):
Yes, and everything is grouvy like I I like listen,
like it again.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
But see, it doesn't matter. Let me tell you why
it matters. Just what you just said. Let me tell
you why it matters. Because you're going into a relationship,
and he's going into the relationship, and you're going together.
So the other person's moral code matters in a relationship.

Speaker 8 (30:57):
Okay, yours, but where But Okay, by the time.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
We get to this relationship that we're.

Speaker 8 (31:03):
In your past, bodies in my past, bodies are in
closets or they're buried.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
That we're gone, we're done. It doesn't matter to.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
You, to you, to you, But you're missing the big point.
This is the big glaring ball of Listen, you're saying
that based on how you feel. Okay, No, I'm.

Speaker 8 (31:25):
Just saying based on you know, like it's a different
set of standards for it is.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
We agreed that, we agreed that, we agreed, we agreed
about that. But when you're coming into a relationship, you're
meeting a guy. But let's say, if it's not a
relationship or not a relationship, you have to deal with
the other person's thoughts, beliefs in moral code as well.
Same thing with yours. He has to you know, uh,
settle on what yours are, So it does matter if

(31:53):
you go into a relationship and you say, well, it
doesn't matter, that's in the past and I don't care,
blah blah blah. You know, even with yours as the guy,
there's not a problem. That's fine. But if he has
a certain thing that says, you know what, based on
my morals, my culture, my religion, how I was raised,
or my society that if a person of a woman,

(32:15):
I'll speaking on how a guy might see. But if
a woman has thirty forty to fifty, however many that
person says it's too much. That's not wrong. That's just
based on his moral code, or his culture or his religion.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Okay, I get that.

Speaker 8 (32:33):
But what happens when you meet me right you're meeting
me in the present, right You didn't meet me yesterday.
You're not gonna meet me tomorrow. You met me right
here and right now. The person that whomever was yesterday
is not that same person when they.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Connected with him.

Speaker 8 (32:55):
Possibly if you had not asked a question what my
body count with me? When you met me and we
connectedly connected, clearly you thought that my morals were okay
until that conversation was.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Having correct, But when you meet a person. When you
first meet a person, you're not most of the time,
most people are not looking at it as all right,
I'm courting this person for marriage. You're getting to know
the person. You're on like basic level you're on. You're
just coming to the plate. You're not even that first
base yet, you're just coming to the plate. So that
that's different. So you know, it's all right, let me
tell you why.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
So let me interrupt, Let me interrupt.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
You're saying it matters if they're courting you for marriage,
or it matters if just in general it matters.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
That's two different things.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Oh yeah, it does, it does. So all right. If
I'm meeting a person and I don't have anything expectations, expectations,
they make expectations or whatever, I don't care, who cares.
You know, you don't know, you don't know where this
is going. But when you start saying, okay, well I
wonder if this is the person for me, now you
start going back into your mind and saying, well, what's
your moral cool, what do you want out of your

(34:00):
your person? How do I judge that person's basic you know,
how they're going to meet up to what I what I.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
Want I don't think you know what anybody asks anybody
what's your body count on the first date?

Speaker 1 (34:12):
No, not gonna do that off.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
So I think it's subsequent, like after you've been together
for a while, then you'll be like, okay, how many
have you had? Okay, So I wanted to ask you.
So let's say, for example, ask me, yes, we're in
a relationship. And you know how men always say, oh,
you know this girl, something depends on your relationship. Oh
this girl, we did it in the classroom. We did
in the bathroom. We didn't it. Is it okay for
a woman to come and be like, oh, you know

(34:39):
this dude, this guy, me and him, we did this
outside another time, like, oh you know this kind of thing.
I did it with that guy. One guy, I did it.
We did this, We had sex like this, we had BDSM,
we had this. Is it okay for a woman to.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Tell us to talk to her friends?

Speaker 4 (34:58):
No, you know what, say talk to you if you're
in a relationship.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
That's what I'm.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Saying, Oh if you and not as a relationship, but
it be okay for somebody on the outside. I said,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
How men always say, hey, oh this person. We had something, oh,
in the in the classroom. In the classroom, I did
this in the classroom, I did that. You know how
it's okay for them to talk about Is he okay
for a woman to say, hey, you know what this
guy me and him, we had a threesome one time
we had the wed.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
It depends, it depends. So all right for for a
guy to say that, first you have to have an
understanding how a person is going to feel about that, right,
So same thing with a guy. It's okay to if
you're in a relationship, it's okay to talk about all
those things. That's what you'll be, okay.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
But if you expect that this is going to be
the end.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
It's okay. It's okay for you to talk about that.
But then you have to look at you have to
look at that individual person. How is that person going
to feel about it? So you know, everybody's not gonna
be able to handle that.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
But that's what she's saying. That's question.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
It's a double stand like if you're okay saying it to.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Me, if you're if you're if you're not able to
handle it, and.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
I'm okay, it's fine. It's the past. Is it okay
for me to also share?

Speaker 1 (36:10):
I said, you're asking me. I'm saying, yes, it's okay
for you to share those things.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
It is.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
That's the right I think it is.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
I don't believe they share things like because because oh,
somebody flip me off the back of the truck we're outside.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
No your.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
No, she's But that's that's up for the guy to
just sake to say, you know, whether they can.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
A lot of guys can't handle it.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
The same way. That's what I'm trying to put that.
It's the same way with the body counts. Okay for
them to have like one millium people, but a woman
one start.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Having like now, let me let me, let me throw
this in here, let me throw this in here. Most
guys don't want to know your body count, okay. And
the reason why they don't want to know your body
count because they don't know if they're going to be
able to handle it. That's that's the main reason. It's
not about you know what the pastes in the past.
That's how you think. That's how a woman may think. Guys,

(37:06):
it does matter. But I'm not going to ask somebody
what your body count is. If I feel that it
might mess with me, you know, emotionally or psychologically. That's
the bottom line. But it does. It does matter to
some people whether and I'm not saying I can't put
a number on it, but it might say, well, all right,
based on my moral code, how I was raised, how
my mother's gonna think about it, how my culture is

(37:27):
gonna think about, how my religion's gonna think about it.
It does matter because when you look at somebody's body count,
whether it be a man or woman, you have to say, okay,
well I believe that a person should be married before
you have sex, or you know, you might have messed
up or whatever whatever. At some point you might have
come to your senses and said, okay, well you know

(37:47):
I'm not gonna do that anymore, or I'm gonna slow down,
or I'm gonna be in a committed relationship, whatever. They
don't think about the whole I'm single, you know, I'm
gonna do me because now it's like you're conflicting with
their moral code, and a lot of guys they don't
have a moral code, so it won't matter to you know,
a lot of guys, but some guys it will. But
when you go into a relationship or you're getting into

(38:08):
a relationship, it does matter because you have to find
out what that person's moral code. That's if that person cares.
Like I said, I knew guys who don't care. And
if you listen to the last podcast, some people are like,
well I don't care, I don't care, I don't want
to know, you know. And that's fine, but but it
does relate to in society's eyes or somebody else's eyes,

(38:30):
maybe not yours, if that person was insecure, or if
that person had uh uh, you know, low morals based
on your moral code or society's moral code. So it
does matter. That's that's why we even have this topic to.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Right, right, because it matters to some people. And women
are treated differently when it comes to this.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Absolutely, and that's the that's the double standard, that's the
hypocrisy and and and the world is a double standard.
But we have to agree with that. Right, So now
we are this is this quest has already been answered, right.
I was gonna ask is it healthy to ask your
partner their body count? What say you play killer?

Speaker 2 (39:10):
I think we know?

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Yeah, Now I'm sorry, my phone is dying.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
Okay, you go, yes, dying, and I don't want it
to hang up on you, but that's what's happening.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Okay, Well, thank you for trying.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
It was a pleasure.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Let me know the next one, and I want to
finish listening to Okay.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
I was in the same I was in the same
position yours.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
So I forgot my question. Oh is it is it?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Is it healthy?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Is it healthy?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Yeah? No?

Speaker 8 (39:45):
I mean, like no, I don't think that it's healthy
for either a female or a male to open up
Pandora's box because you're not if you're not gonna find
what you're looking for when you go. So like whether
it's ten people, two people, you know, it's like I

(40:07):
know for.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
A fact that that bothered that.

Speaker 8 (40:12):
It bothered my husband when we went in certain events
or whatever and he would see somebody that he knew
that I had ran with or whatever. But again I
go back to, you shouldn't feel any kind of way
about that, because you have me, we connected, we're together.
That was just somebody I was dating, not even dating,

(40:34):
like I'm single. I was single when you met me.
So I don't think that it's a healthy question to ask.
You know me personally, I wouldn't ask the question because one,
it doesn't concern me too.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
I ain't gonna go look none of them up.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
So why you want to know what I could look? Listen,
I can come up with some scenarios that happened. So,
you know, if going back to the barbershop, right, if
if a guy, if a guy you know, and I
know and y'all had something in the past and whatever,
and you never mentioned it even though we ran into
this person you know many many times.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Right.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
So we're in there, sitting there getting our hair cut, right,
and the question comes up. You know, yeah, man, she
likes to do such and such and such, and I
had another Right, he's talking to the barber. That's how
we usually talk. We talks to the barber, right, and
then you in the chair man, I heard some and
such such such, Right, and you've seen this guy. This
guy's getting his hair cut next to yours, next to you.

(41:31):
So that does that will be a problem for a
guy because he's like I've been I've been seeing you.
You know, we've been together in the same place. Whatever.
You ain't tell me whatever, But that's that's something about
you know, is it something? Well? No, women too, women too,
I've had those where somebody was like, well you didn't
tell me you such and such, or did you such
and such? Right, women do the same, not trust me.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
I guess the difference in my case is that.

Speaker 8 (41:59):
When we again, I was single, when my husband saw
me at events with other people. If we're going somewhere,
now we're together and you see that person, first of all,
y'all should even be having a conversation about me.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
This is life. You know, everybody's having conversation by everybody, No, but.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
You having conversations.

Speaker 8 (42:20):
So when you have conversations again, it is unhealthy to
ask questions.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
That you really don't want to know that.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
There you go.

Speaker 8 (42:27):
Now you get the answer. So now you get the answer.
Now you're disappointed in me because of what I did
in my past, and now you don't want to be
with me, somebody that was happy with five minutes before
you had that conversation, and now you want to wreck
your whole life because of who I saw or who

(42:47):
I slept with before me and you connected connected.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Okay, So let me ask you something. And this is
more or less I'm a flip it back because the
women's point of view, Now, do you think it's a
reasonable now you're thinking about in the because you are
all women, and we're thinking about in a man's eyes.
Do you think it's reasonable for a man to think
that if you have a high body count, right and
without having the relationships, that you're less capable of a

(43:15):
learned of a long term relationship.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
No, I don't.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
I don't think that you're less capable. I think that
you just didn't find the right one.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I don't think that's what you think. Do you think
it's reasonable for a man to have that thought?

Speaker 8 (43:27):
Now?

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yes, yes, he will have that thought. Okay, yes thought.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
A virgin doesn't mean you can keep long relationships. Being
a virgin doesn't mean you can maintain relationships.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
That's true, true, good point. So I think it's a
man tying up that they put on us.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Well, it could be a man's too, I mean, is
it is a this is a this is one where
it actually applies to both, because it applies to both.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
But what I'm saying is this is this all came
out of a societal thing, and it was a man's
doing that said.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
The higher a man's number, the more value you have,
and the lower.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
The higher the woman's number, the less value you have yes.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Okay, So let me give you the man's point of
view when it comes to this, and it's not all meant.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Tell us the treasure chess.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yes about.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
You heard? Yes, yes, you've told us.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Everybody but plant killer?

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Have you?

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Have you heard the treasure chess thing? A?

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Right?

Speaker 1 (44:33):
So this is basically I'm putting it in the perspective
of like a you know, history or whatever. Right, this
is how this is how a man feels. And I'm
telling you how a man feels that that's necessarily how
I feel.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
And he's going to talk about the about the soccer
at the socket that has the whole way you have
to plug stuff in.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Okay, let's let's get the treasure chest.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
So basically this is how and this is this is
how a man sees it. This is how society sees it.
So you can't don't blame don't blame the man because
now for every woman is looked at as you're you're
holding a treasure, right, something you're valuable. So you are
a treasure or a value to man and society. And
it's been like this for since the beginning of time. Right,

(45:19):
So every time a man comes into your life and
he gives you something, whether it be comfort, uh work
or you know work work, right, and he's he's actually
taking a portion of your your treasure, right, your your gold.
He got your gold. So the way society sees it, Okay,

(45:41):
he has that gold and he's putting it in his bag.
Now his value has just gone up, yours is going down.
So every time that pirate goes to a different island
and he uh gives his services to that particular woman,
he's taking the gold. Now every time that a woman
lets another pirate or or however come in and take gold,

(46:02):
that means her value is actually you know, dropped. That's
how society sees it. And this is a men's based society, right,
the patriarchal as you would say. And that's how it was.
That's how it's viewed.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Now.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
It has changed over time, you know, somewhat somewhat. People
don't care. Now someone told me, he says, men don't
care about body counts, right, because only certain types. If
you were like an Instagram model or influencer or whatever
famous person and they know you got a current was

(46:38):
a current Stephens, right, the superheit Okay, Okay, you know
I do not Okay, I've.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Heard that name. I don't know what her real name is.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Her name is Karen Stephens. But like I said, she said, well,
you know, I'm just making this up. But let's say I,
you know, I slept with fifteen hundred guys right now,
a normal girl on the street and be like, oh,
oh my god. They got all types of names for right,
even though even if they slept with fifteen hundred women, right,
but let it be the famous person or you know whatever,

(47:10):
and it's it doesn't even come into their head.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
The Kardashian girl.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
They can care less. She's been on right, exactly. It's
almost like a trophy, so to speak. So, you know,
society is is you know, a double standard a sell right, absolutely,
so we can say that I think we can agree
that body kept should be a private matter, right guys,

(47:38):
Some guys want to know. Some guys are not going
to want to know because obviously they're not going to
be able to handle it.

Speaker 6 (47:43):
Right.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
And I'm gonna say, personally, it doesn't say it doesn't say,
you know, it doesn't it's not an indication of your
value of a type of person. Because one again, like
a plant killer says you can change the person you
was before not.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Mean that that's who you are and as present day.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Correct, but also also it is still valid for somebody says, well,
you know what, I knew this person for twenty years
and they kept shoplifting every year, they kept getting caught.
They had thief. They've been stealing since they were six
years old. Right, so tomorrow, if I see the person,

(48:21):
am I supposed to think that the person's not gonna
steal from me? Right?

Speaker 8 (48:26):
Well, all I can say is, had it not been
for grace, you understand what I'm saying, That someone loved
me enough that they didn't care about what that body
count was. I don't want to be judged for the
decisions that I made when I was in my team

(48:48):
in my early twenties and my thirties when I was single. Again,
that's it's unhealthy to dig in people's backyards. So you
can feel good about yourself because essentially, as a man,
you're saying, as you just said, with your little treasure box,
because see, I can flip that as a woman, you

(49:10):
may think that you're taking from my treasure box.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Right.

Speaker 8 (49:15):
I may allow you to think it, but I'm getting
something in return. Whether I want to feel good in
the moment for me, whether you leave two corns on
the table.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
That's why I said, they've given you a service of
some sort, just in the terms of a pirate, right.

Speaker 8 (49:31):
So I don't necessarily look like it has to be
that he's taking from my treasure box.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
I could be taken from his. I mean again, I.

Speaker 8 (49:40):
Don't think that that that people should be judged based
on what they were doing before they met you. Because
if you met me and there's some type of attraction,
you call yourself gonna court me, we're going.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Out, we're having conversations.

Speaker 8 (50:02):
Again, you asked that question, and I say, I'm not
comfortable we're talking to that about that in your head
the moment I said that, again, you're formulating an opinion
because I don't want to talk about and then if
I give you the truth, you can't handle the truth. Unfortunately,
we live in a society and we see it today
when all of these programs are being rolled back for

(50:24):
women that you're saying that we are property of yours.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Yes, you know, our voices don't really matter.

Speaker 8 (50:37):
Because as long as you can control the narrative, because
based on how you feel and the lack of.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Whatever it is that you want us to port into you.

Speaker 8 (50:46):
That's really not when you meet me, my body count
really shouldn't matter.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Okay. So and then again this was a perspective of
women on the guy. Right. So, you know, we we
kind of got into with the how you know the
girl's body count? You know, that's not really a really
concern of yours because it's from it's always gonna be
from the other person's point of view, right. Right, So,
as a guy, if you I'm gonna put you in

(51:13):
the scenario, right, you're at the hair salon. You come
in there and you meet this guy. His name is
Jake from State Farm.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Oh my god, what is wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Right? And you know you you remember him from school,
you remember him from high school, college, you know whatever, whatever,
you know, this dude is a player, player from Himalayas,
right he You know for sure, you know for sure
that this guy had at least forty to fifty women
that you know, and probably three times that. Right now,

(51:48):
he comes up to you and you guys start talking
whatever in your head, are you thinking that this guy
could be a viable mate for a relationship or you're
saying that, oh no, this guy is a player. Now
be honest on this one. This is this guy going
is a player for life and should not be trusted
or this person, you know, based on what you know,

(52:11):
is viable for a relationship.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Well it depends on one. Am I looking for a relationship.

Speaker 8 (52:19):
I mean, well I've been kind of sorted in that
little condisor scenario.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
But it didn't That doesn't it doesn't matter to me.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Okay, So you're saying that this this guy jeek.

Speaker 8 (52:36):
And and I knew that he was dealing with Shila
Paula and uh.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
And we we all went to school together.

Speaker 8 (52:46):
You know, No, it doesn't matter because we're no longer
in school. You know we we again, I'm not, We're
not the people that we were when we were.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Good right right, but minute, we're all adults now. So
that's how he was in school and his adulthood. So
the question is do you think that this person, knowing
his history through school, adulthood, thirties, forties, whatever is he is,
he is he a viable meat? Are you gonna look

(53:17):
at him and say like, nah, this guy, you know,
I know his his track record. I don't think he's
a good partner for a committed relationship, monogamous relationship might
have been.

Speaker 8 (53:28):
A good partner for that person. Okay, it doesn't mean
he's not going to be a good partner for me. Okay, Okay,
Now I feel like you're you know, I don't want
to be the type because I again, I don't want
anybody to judge.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Okay did he did?

Speaker 8 (53:43):
Now, if I'm looking for a relationship and I'm feeling dude,
do you feeling me? I might jump all in because hey,
you feeling each other. But if it's one of them
things that I'm not feeling him like that and he
may not be feeling me, we might just walk up.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Who knows. But I don't think that people should be judged,
you know.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Yeah, no, okay, And you have to have to give
people grace. You have to give people grace because you
don't know that because I'm not the same girl I
was at twenty and at sixty one, I'm a totally
different woman. So sometimes you just have to give people grace.
And I'm rude enough to be like you was a
whole back then what.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
You're doing now, you know, like you gotta you have
to give people grace sometimes, That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
And like I said, it's not when we talk about
women and men's it's not all men is not all right?
And because like I said, if you listen to the
other podcast, that there's a variation. And you know what
a person thinks is way too high for them to handle, right,
not saying that they're gonna label you a certain thing.
Is that too high for them to handle? Like if
you had to tell them, you know whatever? So all right,

(54:52):
so what's your what's your body count?

Speaker 2 (54:54):
He is such.

Speaker 8 (54:56):
Listen if you was just going to judge me on
that it's too high, that it's too hot.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I'll kick him for a year.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
It ain't too high. This is you don't want to know.
You can't hand, don't ask.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
That is to the previous part.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you my body count.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
And if I'm the lie, let me my chair over
so the lightning don't hit.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
This is this is gonna be totally totally the truth.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Right we are rolling our eyes so hard over here?

Speaker 1 (55:32):
What is what what do you think my body comes thirty?

Speaker 2 (55:36):
I don't know. I don't even have a number.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
You said before you said ten, I did not.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Did I say too he must have been dreaming. I
probably was sleep playing because thirty.

Speaker 8 (55:49):
I'm not going to try to guess that he said
three isn't gonna throw a number in that ring, No.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Sir, I don't want to know.

Speaker 9 (55:58):
Okay, twenty six, twenty six, what's the what's the formula?

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Times one point five plus eight.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
That's for women.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
Trying to say this is actually pretty pretty close. You
think it's low.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Actually you think it's low.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
Yeah, okay, so you did good and you're like almost
an ancestorm. Good, I'm serious.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
So let me tell you the Australia, this is according
to AI, came out with these answers. But they had
the highest number of body counts for women and it
was nine point one. This is an average. For men
it was eight to ten and for women it was

(56:43):
six to eight. Okay, that's that's worldwide. So you got
to take an account. You know, you got some people
in the Middle East store in the poll that had
won for their entire ninety years, right, so you know,
and nobody again like nobody's gonna be I don't think
if you had to do a survey of one hundred

(57:03):
people and the survey says ninety yard lion.

Speaker 8 (57:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Yeah, nobody's gonna tell the truth.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
I still don't think they're gonna tell. Even if it's anonymous,
I still don't think they would.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
I'm with you on that.

Speaker 8 (57:18):
I don't think no truth is gonna get no. I
feel like I'm like Forrest Gump. Mom My life is
like a box of.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Cho that's the that's the truth right there.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
All right, So this is mo that's my last question
before we wrap it up. We need one. We need
a word of today.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Treasure chess.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Treasure Chess. That's our word of today. So anybody who's
listening to this podcast, that's email treasure Chess to Hot
Topics podcast. It's h O T t O p i
X podcast at gmail dot com, and you'll be able
to win. You have a chance to win some comedy
show tickets. Okay, so you have to you have to
get all of them for the month. So you gotta

(57:55):
look at look back at the podcast from the last
whatever April thiss date April yeah, okay, So for the
for the podcast is that's published in April. If you
give us our body count, we'll invite you into a
comedy show in a location near you. So you can
come here or we'll you know, hook you up wherever

(58:16):
you are and know you're not going to see Cat Williams.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Oh no, I can't afford to see Cat Williams.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
You're gonna see, you know, Bob jobot.

Speaker 8 (58:29):
To find out that he's coming in our area, like
you know, we never really.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Get any big time listen people down here on this shore.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
I saw them tickets.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
I saw that.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
I saw them tickets.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yeah, yeah, them tickets.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
That ain't gonna be one of them.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
But they started.

Speaker 8 (58:47):
I feel like they started at like sixty down here
up to they started sixty down here up to two forty.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Were driving were driving down there.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
I saw the two forty. The sixties is probably like
in a parking lot on the on the big screen.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
The civic center here isn't but so big. So it's
not one. It's not a bad sea in the joints.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Not but so you know, we might we need to drive.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
To those We in Saulisbury. We in Saulisbury.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
You said in Saulisbury Civic Center?

Speaker 7 (59:13):
Uh huh?

Speaker 8 (59:14):
Is that the he's going to be at the Wacamacoke
County Civic Center. We can't look that up in Saulisbury Maryland.
I looked at I went and looked at their tickets.
I like, I went to on their website to their
box office and looked at the tickets and they started
at like sixty up to two for.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
So I think I started at two forty with our
fees and taxes.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Yeah, it was crazy.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Yeah, all right, well.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
I like that. But for them prices, I have to
see them on the next videos.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
You know, right in my liright from my liv Yes,
So this is my last question and we're gonna be
gonna get out of here. This is for all three
of you. Is it okay if if it should come
up for a person to lie about the to count.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
I don't think you should lie about it. I think
you just shouldn't ask, okay, or.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
Just shouldn't answer. It depends on the relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
So is it okay to lie?

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
Just don't answer?

Speaker 7 (01:00:12):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
But is it okay to lie?

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Well then I'm gonna find out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
But yeah, that's what I would saying, Like, I mean,
if you lie, how would I really know your money?

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Okay, that's a good point.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Okay, it doesn't matter because, like I said, like the
scenator she gave me. If or not to give you
if you said if if you said it's four and
then later found out, or maybe you when you was
you was drinking, you know, and it slipped and it
was forty.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Don't lie, just you know, don't don't say answer.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
So it's for your own mental health, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Yeah, but it's definitely not okay to lie about it, right, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:00:54):
No, it's it's not okay to lie about any Okay,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Again, don't ask questions.

Speaker 8 (01:01:00):
It's like my advice would be, do not ask questions
that you really don't want to know that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
So do you think it's okay to lie about it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Yeah, it's okay, Yeah, it's okay. Why because one, I
don't think that you should ask, but if you should ask,
you know, if I'm looking at it like, I'll probably
never know, right or you may want to say you might.
People lie, especially men. We sometimes you lie to not
hurt somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
So hence why you shouldn't ask the queeno.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
But sometimes that you know it might come up, you
know whatever. So I don't know why. But let's say
any question that you think might hurt somebody, go ahead
and lie. Okay, you know, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
A line not good.

Speaker 8 (01:01:45):
Line's not good even I would rather, I mean, like, listen,
I would rather be hurt from the truth than be
hurt from a lie, because once you tell that one lie,
then the person is not going to be able to trust.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Anything, right, Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Even though in this situation, I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Know if you was lying and I asked, woman, you know, hey,
what you're looking over here for? Because you'll y'all's my women.
But I just ask my woman, Hey, you know, is
my penis okay? Is it okay? Size?

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
So that's a situation you definitely shouldn't lie about.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
No, you better sure, don't you know a lot of me, No,
because you set.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
Yourself up for some lonely nights to be like, oh
my god, he'd come again with that little peanut of it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Yeah, don't care.

Speaker 8 (01:02:36):
That's why I'm saying sometimes it's like you got to
test that daughter out before you get to like, listen,
you already know if that thing is too little as
a woman, and you know you're gonna be unsatisfied. He
ain't gonna be the warrior like, because you're gonna eventually
end up stepping out on him because he cannot meet

(01:02:58):
your knee.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
All right, So that's we're going to do a follow
up size matters.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Oh, that's a good one. We'll do that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
We'll do that, We'll do that. That's a good one.
All right. Well, I want to thank you for joining us. Heaven,
I know she couldn't do the full thing, but thank
you too for coming out and giving us your perspective
on this particular hot topic.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Yes, we love having you, and oh thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
I love being I love being on here with you guys.

Speaker 8 (01:03:25):
When he sent me the thing, I like to foll
out my work, okay, I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Damn, yeah, we got so yeah, we got we got
a few ones, a few good ones coming up, and
some some of them will be just guys only, and
we'll have you know, women's only, you know, because we
don't want to when we have no fighting whatever. Whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:03:50):
I actually heard a little bit of the one with
the guys, and but I was I was in the
office listening and I was crying, locking up, you know,
laughing on some I was just like, well, Dan, we.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
I wouldn't have had not neither do they would have been.

Speaker 8 (01:04:08):
Like listen, I would have had all my.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
All right, well catch us on the next episode. We
published Mondays, and you can catch us on all these
different plot.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Uh uh podcast platform.

Speaker 9 (01:04:24):
Podcast platform, Struggling with Peace Today or check us out
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