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Speaker 1 (00:02):
You're listening to the Hot Topics podcast Cycle, Lamb Job
and Fabulous. Let me get into it. Welcome everyone to
the Hot Topics Podcast. I'm Cycle forty eighty one and
I'm here with you aren't know.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Who I'm here with this say hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
That was Lamb Chop and Hello. That was the one
who was whispering. That is the you're whispering. That was
the fabulous Bolonious Feather. Okay, and we have a special
guest today. We have Law eighty eight. Did I say,
am I saying it right?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah? That's right?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Okay, Okay, l.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
A h eighty eight?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Okay, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Problem all right?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So yes, now hip hop artists from the DC area. Okay,
now this's gonna be let's stood out there. DC area
is a little bit different sound than Baltimore, than New
York and South or whatever, so we're going to get
into all that. I did have the opportunity to listen
to some of your music and it was actually pretty good.
(01:15):
So that's you know, we invite them, you know, and
his is ah, I guess more than modern. It's not
like the old stuff that we or I.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Listened to exactly I was like, well he was talking
about us, the two answers, but it was.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Well, it was pretty good. First one of the questions,
I want to ask you the name. Where'd you get
the name from?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I got the name reading the Bible. I was like
reading I think it was songs, songs and after every
scripture that says a lot mm hmm. Looked it up.
I was like, what's the lot of man? And it
said it's a musical direction. And I just stuck with
that name. I just shortened it a lot and.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I like the eight Okay, nice, Okay, were you born
in eighty eight?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Nah?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
So what what first got you in the hip hop?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I got it back into starting my own wrap stuff
like in high school. It was just something I was
shutting with people freestyling.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Oh okay, okay, now, my two co hosts, you've not
heard your music yet, so I'm gonna see if I
can add a little snippet in you know, post production
or during the editing. All right, when they hear and
it's on it's on SoundCloud.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, it's on SoundCloud. Most of it is on SoundCloud.
I'm on Apple Music and Spotify too.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Okay, okay, well we can we can listen to it now?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
What is Oh, you want to listen to it now?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Just to play some So while we're doing that, let
me just ask you quickly, how young were you when
you realized that this was going to be your path? Like,
was it it's something that you knew right away because
some kids say, oh, I knew it, you know, ten
or eleven, and this is what I wanted to do.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Man, I didn't know for real. I was like trying
to work. I was like, I'm gonna work and just
do it as like side thing. But then, like recently
I stopped working full time. That's got my part time.
So I'm like trying to take it more seriously now.
And I always felt like I was like too old
(03:29):
again into the music industry.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
But what's too Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
When I was like twenty eight, I was thinking I
was too old. So I'm like, I'm like thirty two now, okay, now.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Let me see Razas fifty five because I'm fifty five.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So you had to throw that in. Yeah, I'm still
in there.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Fitty's not there.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Some of the ones who are had that longevity, they're
in those forties and fifties, right, my did They probably
started back when they were teen, but you got over there, fabulous.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
That's a.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
M It's not say desire, it's so far it's been demonstrated.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Demon now that hesitated right before. I love the tat
it doing.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
That work the evil. But it's beblic coord s.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
If I turn my back or seating there, I guarantee
the way to fucking.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Turn the other cheek.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Make this Captain Jasweet.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Trying to put in noise for trying to find my
way to piece. It's it's like a simulation, the controlling
all the lea.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
All these demons and these fls.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
They're trying to dream Idenity and John to slay my enemies.
I actually coming like the best. I had bet your
song still to cheat the devil.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Oh he mentioned you definitely.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
You know what you know what?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You so wrong? So wrong, very very nice.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Did you do the ad libs in that? Also?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Okay, g so that's some good production. Now who actually
gets the production credits?
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I it's a lot of different uh producers, I guess
I work with, but the engineer I usually go to
uh Rad Space dynam Dre.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Okay, well, shout off to Dre. Good job.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I liked if I could understand what he was saying,
I'm the ancestor here, so.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Well, that was one of the things that I noticed
when I was listening to the clips on sound sound cloud,
like I had an issue with the modern uh music,
I don't know, the saying Yeah, like I couldn't understand
anything that it was saying. It was like, probably need
to hear. But on yours you had you articulated, yeah,
(06:11):
very well, you know you can hear all that.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
So he just rap kind of like biblical or.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Who biblic biblical?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Okay, it's not all biblical, it's not all blase.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I just was feeling that way that day when I
made that song.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
So now leads into that question, like what inspires you
for your lyrics?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I don't know, like mostly stress depression, but like like
kind of I feel like I want to.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Put words of affirmation in the air.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Okay, So your personal feelings and things that you're dealing
with every day life.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Now let mean do you start with the music first
or do you go with the lyrics, because then there's
some some artists will go in there and say, you know,
they'll just listen to a beat, yeah, and then they'll
go with it. Now, what do you do do you
you write your own stuff?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah? All right, I read my own stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I usually listen to a beat, just go through a
few beats, like the most and then start writing.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Okay, so that that the beat kind of expired inspires
you as well? Yeah, okay, okay, So do you know
that's your genre? Do you do you change it up
a little bit? Go into different types?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
What you mean, like like ck and roll?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Sorry, different styles of raps? Like you know, there's a
you know, every area has their particular sound, right, So
right now, what what area inspired you or you take
your style from? Is it the right now?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I'm taking a lot of inspiration from like South.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Like Memphis, like Florida, okay, South Southeast Memphis, Young Dolf.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Nah, probably like like Black Spurf or Exavi Wolf.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Okay, Now I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I don't know who they are, Okay, I don't feel
so bad.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I was like, but I realized that even when I
was growing up, a lot of my influences and how
I jumped on to certain types of music was actually
from videos videos I saw, you know, and I was
thinking about the you know, they had video juke boxes,
so anybody out there unless.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It was you know, you get a cassette tape and.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You listen to, you know, the full album, but you know,
you miss a lot. So the new generation, you guys,
got what YouTube, Facebook or social media platforms.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
So yeah, so that's my question. How you getting your
music out there? And how your fans finding you? Because,
like you said, we had TV, the radio station only
played the same Well actually, I'm really telling my age,
they weren't playing rap music or hip hop music at
all on the radio, or they would play it like
after ten o'clock or you know, at eleven o'clock or
(09:35):
something like that. So how are you getting your music
out there? And how your fans found finding you?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
I'm trying to get more into like social media creation
and SoundCloud is like it's like it's on social media
so you can promote like other artists or people just
listening to music. They make it easier to promote to.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
That great And I've never actually been on SoundCloud. I
gotta go. First day hearing that, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I'm gonna have to check that out.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So you said you're.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Thirty two, Yeah, were still young?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Who was your biggest musical influence.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Uh, like when I was younger, it was it was
a little Maine okay, but then like and went to
like Kanye.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Man like.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Aside rocky okay, okay, so I have heard of those?
Did you? Did you find any inspiration from anybody like
outside of rap as a as far as.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
You're uh like maybe R and B artists or even
you know rock right right?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
It was some rock. It was like some slip Knod
since its fell.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Okay, I've murdered him, I know, slipknot slip what years
with those.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Nineties? Like that nineties? Yeah? Interesting, Yeah, I have a
weird music ear and slip not his R and B. No,
it is not.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
No see I can, I can. My influences will be
coming from a yacht rock.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh no, stop, don't say that. Don't especially not when
you're talking to him.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, well hey, you know, all right? So how would
you describe your style to someone who's never heard your music?
Now we just heard, how would you describe for anybody
who's listening, how would you describe your sound?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I don't even know.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
It's uh, it's I have no idea, I don't all.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Right, from the from the from the clip that you heard,
how would you describe as sound.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Huh, It's definitely doesn't feel new school rap. I would
say it was. It was a little bit older school rap.
Like he said, like if it had a Kanye feeling
to me, because Kanye did a lot.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Of music as far.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
As the music goes, that he did a lot of music,
and then the raps like so you could you can
hear Kanye song and feel like this song is familiar
to you? So that kind of felt like that beat
was a little bit familiar to me, which made me
pay attention to what he was saying.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Like a later version, I mean, well say that our age, Yeah,
as far as the music goes, but your cadence was
definitely very Southern. Yes, yes, Cadence. The only thing different
is you can actually understand and I guess you don't
have a deep being from DC. You don't have that
deep Southern accent either. It makes a difference too.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Hm.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I mean I don't want, I don't want like I'm
not really from DC. I'm from PG, but I just
like moved around stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, yeah, you know Baltimore and claiming PG count.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
PG. If you d D M V yeah, d s
PG County, Montgomery County, all of that, Alexandria.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, we don't claim none of it.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, So it's it's a lot of well it used
to be. I'm not sure if it is anymore because
I'm not founding a lot of controversy about what message
that you want your music to send out there and
what do you want the people to know about you
through your music.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I'ven't I've been thinking about my music and it's like
I got some people to analyze it for me.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Now it's very introspective, but.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Uh, I kind of want to express values and certain things.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Okay, Like it's one time I was like, you don't
got to do this so long, like it's a secret
or something like that. Stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
You know, So you're basically given the listeners and inside
scoop or inside view of yourself, your inner self. Yeah,
the things that you've been going through the life and
giving it a positive thing, like you you don't have
to go through this by yourself. Yeah, Okay, Okay, that's nice.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
That's a change, that's yeah, that is a well, it's.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Eighties, right.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
The eighties was all about a message and then it
went into bitches and hoes, you know, then it went
to I don't know because I can't understand what they're saying,
so I don't know what it went into next. But yeah,
so that was that was.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Probably that was track music, right? And what's the other one?
The new one they have? They call it a trut
know what's the stuff? Vaughn King, Vaughn Drill. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
that's the that's the one that And you know, I'm
appreciated it because it's still a lot of creativity.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Absolutely so I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Part, just like you know, once you start getting older
and you just don't relate to some of the you know,
things that they say, but you know, it is what
it is. Now. For what are some of the challenges
you've had breaking into this and I know you're still,
you know, going through some of those challenges. What are
some of the ones that you already experienced.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Mainly like, uh, promotion, like getting getting heard.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I don't know how that like, I'm not really trying
to make three tiktoks today.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
That's what you gotta do.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Promotions. Promotions now, I think that's I mean, unfortunately, we
did one on didn we do one on social media
influencers and stuff like that. I think unfortunately, that's something
that's you know now that you have to do. Everything's
about content, content, content, content, content, putting it out there,
(16:22):
and you know, I guess you can even I guess
you can kind of narrow down to maybe a couple
of them, maybe TikTok, I don't even even Facebook.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Famous musicians like the ones that they still get into
the habit of doing the content like making dance whatever
whatever dance steps to the songs like a snippet, and
then they do this dance challenge and stuff like that
and then.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Put some videos with some dance steps. Yeah, dance dances. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So that's the way to be saying.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I guess, now, how do you balance the business in
the creative size of being an artist?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Hard?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Well, you you went from full time to part time
in the business world, Yeah, now you full time music.
So now that now it's kind of like I guess
you would have to balance between pay my bills and
you know, dish out money and time.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, well, I like I do whenever I can't right now, okay,
just to help.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
But it's like it's more freedom with door dash and
it's like you can It's like kind of like gamble,
like one day you can make something real good.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Like uh wait, you said you gamble. You said you gamble.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
It's kind of like a gamble.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Okay, about said, well you do dice?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
You know?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Okay, Well, and that that is something that a lot
of young artists, as we'll have to come in and
figure it out, is that, you know, do you take
that big risk, you know, and jumping into a certain
you know, profession, whether it be music or movie. And
(18:14):
I could say, I'm the reason why I'm gonna tell
you this is because that was something I wanted to do.
I wanted to do movies, movies right right. I was
also a beat maker. But it got to the point where,
you know, how do you balance it? I want to
make sure I could pay my bills and I wasn't
really you know, ready to take a risk. So, you know,
and I guess some of the more you know, I say, popular,
(18:36):
more successful people are the ones who took that risk,
risk taker, you know, and went all in.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
But the risk is different at nineteen than it is
at thirty two or twenty eight. It's a different risk
when you started a family that those are different.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Now, what's the family life like?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
You have?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
You have children? Okay, so good job.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Okay, not a good job, but I'm just.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
What are you doing there? I don't have extra responsibility,
So that's that's good.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
What what did you see yourself in five years as
an artist?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I want to build my following. I'm not really trying
to like be.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Like a mainstream superstar or anything, but I just want
to like following it with my music so I could
just be able to make it and receive some kind
of income from it.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Okay, so money is a factor. I mean, nobody's trying
to spend and not get anything.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah yeah, okay, So.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Okay, how many shows have you done?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I haven't.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I used to do shows, but then I stopped. Ah
that's while I would whoever I was connected with. Looking,
I'm looking to get back into it.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Well, this is the summertime, so you know you're gonna
have to hit those those little festivals and stuff like that.
And I tell you this because as I orgognized some
events and I had entertainers coming in you know. Matter
of fact, it was a group from DC that came in.
I forgot the name. It was a funk fusion thing.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, they were good.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
We're talking about the same one one with the one
with the they sound good on that video.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Maybe we're not talking about the right one. They're talking
about somebody.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
The one the ones from DC was the young guys,
was like a four or five of them whatever, and
then they came late so they didn't get the mic checking.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
All that's okay.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Now, how do you handle like, do you have an
issue with self doubt on your self criticism?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Uh? Yeah, I gotta. I think I do get self doubt.
I just I how do you?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
How do you? How do you squash it? Though?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Man?
Speaker 4 (20:59):
I know it's like some people that like actually like
my music, so I like, I try to remind.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Myself of that.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Okay, Like, okay, I like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
That's pretty much it.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Okay. Well, you also have to remember that, you know,
everything ain't for everybody, So you just have to focus
in on those people, like you said, who do like
your music and want to hear more and give them that.
And you would be surprised how one person will saying,
you know what I heard so and so on, he
was really good. You need to check him out. And
sometimes that's how you get right.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
And I'm gonna tell you, I'm quick to trash artist.
I admit it. I'll hear something I'm like garbage and
really don't even give him an opportunity. But like I said,
this a little bit different. It was kind of like, oh,
I can understand this, you know what, whatever, but you're
gonna have those people, those niggas sayers out there like
you know, you know, and you just got to say,
(21:58):
you know, keep it moving. Like you said, every thing
is not for everybody.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I mean even some of your friends would be like
dumb man, just go and work for ups like and
you gotta kind of not listen to them, you know,
if you're ready to pursue it, you gotta not listen
to them.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
No, people will tell me like I had this this
myself from they was like, oh it's cold, and then
they go with somebody else like man, you need to quit.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well, good for you. You don't need them in your life.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
And that's gonna happen in any sting. So, speaking of which,
if you had to have your ideal dream collaboration artists
could be rap R and b Rock whatever in your mind,
who would that be? They give you this one opportunity,
like you know, eminem, who would you pick out of anybody?
(22:53):
And why what I picked?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I would pick? Uh? I don't even know who I picked.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Uh, you have your favorite your favorite artists.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Man, I want to pick somebody that could help help,
like most most people can.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
That I'm thinking about, but probably like suicide boys or.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Like suicide boys.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Nah, all, I should have said that.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
You're talking to an older generation here, so I don't
know two of us one of us is not.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Maybe maybe like if I was on my old wave,
I probably I used to want a collab with Tribute Red.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Okay, okay, now heard her? Okay, wait is it her?
Who's a guy? Who's who's the other Red?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Don't look at me?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh the grid?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Because just one?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Now? Why trippy rid?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I used to like I used to really enjoy it,
like the rage sound.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
So I think if I was an artist, which you know,
I've been known to be a decent singer.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
What say that again? What did I hear you?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Maybe like phones, I'm collabing with Beyonce do it?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Instant instant sales instant, you know, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
She'd just be looking at you like, who is this pervy?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Bad? Well?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Hey, you know, well I can sing back up like
Michael McDonald. All Right, so let's let's get into the
fun stuff. Now you've been you've been messing around with
this for four years. What's the weirdest thing that's happened
to you in this?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Are you looking for a Diddy story?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
You've been to a Diddy party?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Oh my god, what is wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I just I just heard that earlier. You know, Diddy
party is not actually a bad thing. It's part that
you went there, and you went to you know, you've
been to any Diddy like parties? Would you tell us
if you did? No?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I wouldn't wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
I wouldn't even have to tell you.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Now, let me ask you something, do you like at
this juncture? Are you at the point where you're getting
some groupies or fans or you know, the the followers,
the crazy followers.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
No, not yet, Okay, it happened.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
A few followers on the SoundCloud. I'm not nothing crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
But now the cuts that we listened to, that's your
first production on like SoundCloud or where people can actually,
you know, download and and share music the the clips
that that we heard earlier. Oh yeah yeah, okay, So
are you just all right? Just getting started? So this
(26:21):
comes I've been rapping for a minute, but I just
switched out my sound so okay, okay, Now should you
get any groupies or crazy fans? You know? Yeah? Bite
me tossing my way only only got to so far.
(26:49):
Need the left and right of me.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
He has losses.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
I've been trying to play music or people. I'll be
like you listening to rap. Check out my SoundCloud.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Okay, yeah, that's what you gotta do.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
What's on your playlist?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
My playlist like black Smurf, I got like a little
bit of Wi Fi guy uh, some Black Fortune.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Kenny Mason.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Okay, Now where do you get these arts? Like see?
I never heard of them? But so where would you
Where do you find these artists? Are they radio? Are
you on the radio?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
I don't know. I don't really listen to the radio.
I be on YouTube. Okay, okay, yeah, YouTube a lot
Happle Music. It's like Apple Music got this this page
where they recommend music that you.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Listen to artists.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Okay, okay, Okay, so YouTube, I guess now, I mean,
since you're finding these artists on YouTube, I guess that's
a spot to go for yourself. And as a matter
of fact, what's his name, Soldier Boy? When he first
kicked off, when he first started getting popular, he said
he had a formula. He would put his music out there,
but he would title it with something else people and
(28:09):
that's how they got it too. So I guess you
know that that does work.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You got to learn some tricks of the trade.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, yeah, Now let's see how many how many tracks
do you have total? So far?
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Oh? I keep deleting my music music and.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Spotify, not up to not up to part for yourself.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I just like, I think like it's it's it's like
a mode or something I get to. I'd be like,
I want to change my sound on my sound to
be better on the work hard on my music, and
I get disappointed in my old music.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, but you I feel like you need to keep
it up because you don't know who likes your old
music and will turn around and listen to the new
things that you put out based on like oh, hey,
I remember that song he had. Let me see what
he has new? Don't take your old stuff down, Like,
let people hear you be out there, because it's gonna
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be somebody that's gonna follow. It's gonna be a lot
of somebody's that will follow absolutely.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Now mind you, There's been a lot of artists that
started off you know small. I guess things that didn't
didn't you know, sell a lot of copies and that
was unknown whatever they did, the mixtape things.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Right, the silent stuff out their trunk, trunk of their car.
That's how they started, you know, from the trunk.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
So you know, once you once you get to the
point where you say I have a finished product and
you put it out there, let.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
It leave it out that y'ah, leave it out there if.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
You want to, you want to do definitely do what
we call it a you know, increase your catalog so
they can you know, people still would like to see
the progression you made and the way people changes. A
lot of artists out there who started one way. I'm
gonna pick one of the jay Z right and like
jay Z started back and see when I was in school,
(30:08):
you're talking about the late eighties, right, So his whole
style changed quite a few times over the years where
he was that that that real fast they called the
like iggity style to his laid back style. And then
you know, so yeah, you know, let it, let it flow, and.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
You know being I didn't jump on until after he
stopped the fast right, and I was just like everybody
around me, j Z the Jason, I can't you know,
But like I said, leave it out there because you
never know, like just because this one you didn't feel
like was up to part, the next one could be
(30:47):
you know, up to part, or the person could look
like the original one. So just just hang on. That's
that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Now, let me ask you something. Did you ever consider
uh assembling a group?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Man, I thought about that a few times, but I
don't think people will like stuff like that no more.
I don't know people don't like out from what I
from the people I was trying to build a collective
or I got one. I had two people out of
school when I moved out by the state and it's Roger.
(31:24):
I'm still making music with him. We got music posted.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Hmm. I'm not trying to think of any rep groups still.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I'm not there anymore, so I'm not really sure.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Well, I could tell you there's even if there's not
a lot of groups, so to say, I think most
of them started out in groups, you know, and even
like some of the popular started out in groups and
they did collaborations, and then that's how they kind of
bounced off. Because if you collab with somebody and they
blow up, guess what, you automatically blow up. You know,
that's the behind the scenes type stuff that you don't
(31:57):
hear in the you know, in the social media and
all that type of stuff. Everybody started off collabing with
somebody or and I can tell you my favorites, my
favorite artists. You know, KRS one came from a group
called Boogie Umber Dusty.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Right before that.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
They were called Scotland Rock in the seventy three, in
the Celebrity three or twelve forty one. Then you had
Jay Z was with a guy named the Jazz or
jazz O right and before that or say after that,
I think they had a group called Innovators. But they
did that fast member jiggle what yes, all right, So
that's how that was or it was called the I
(32:36):
forgot what it was called, but yeah, So a lot
of the artists started off. Now all the n WA
talking right, uh, I'm going old yeah, trick daddy.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Know, so you know, consider it. Even if you don't
have a formalized group, you know, maybe you know, you
can just do a collaboration with people and then that's
that kind of like put more energy into and.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
More ears what you're doing, because they're.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Going to try to put that out to their their
customer customer. It's your your fan base, you know, next
you know, boom. That's and I think there's some there's
some artists that I jumped on out of because I
heard them on the collaborations like A Z you know
when he was with NAS. So there's all the you know,
things that you could do with that. So just just
give it a just considerate right right.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I'm just trying to get more into the coves right now.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Do you find there is there a lot of rap
artists in your area that you know of that's and
your same in your same thing, you know, just trying
to jump up there and and and you know, blast out.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah, I mean I'll be seeing a lot of people
when us like the rad space, the Red Space, I
be seeing a lot of people in there.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Comment leaving you.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Said, red space space, what is that.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
That's the studio.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Okay, okay, you just.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Had that look like is it something else?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I don't know about it that that's something I thought
I was on everything. So that's a DC studio or
PG County.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Nah, I said, Mocho isn't weird?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Okay, okay, Moco?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah? What is that? Someplace new? I need to go?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
But then, but that's cool. Then so you're you know,
bumping into people, say hey, you know you could be
in the studio. Somebody comes through and says, oh, that
that's how O dB got on the Fuji thing. Okay,
Ghettle Superstar. Yeah, he just walked his butt into the studio.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I can see him doing that.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
And they said, well.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Here, yeah I could see that.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah I might.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
You said, red Red Studio, hedda red Space.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Check that place out. Maybe I can go?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Then do what?
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Jump on? Somebody's a sweet to fool.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
You ain't doing nothing the day.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I got a lot to say.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Okay, speaking of having a lot to say, I think
I asked you before, what do you want your music
to say? Like how what do you want your fans
to hear? And and you know, grab ahold of and
take with them.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I think that's he said, his.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
His inner selves.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, yeah, so I mean that's that's now. Let me
ask you something. This is more of a personal off.
You don't have to answer this if you don't want.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Now.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
You said, where you get your inspiration from your for
your lyrics? Now, looking back in history, there's a lot
of artists who dealt with uh, depression, serious.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Breakups, anxiety and anxiety, just mental health and.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Mental health issues, even even trauma from growing up, Like
and I just saw a thing on DMX, you know
they these things.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, he had a lot of trauma in his life.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
So you know, do you think that's a good you know,
source of of you know, inspiration that you can draw
from even now in the future, and you know, and
at the same time address those issues in some sort
of way.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
That's that's harder to address it sometimes because I feel
like I want people to know certain things, but gotcha,
I might I feel like sometimes I feel like I
don't really care if you know, I mean, but.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I don't know, still deciding if I should.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I say out there, I say, let it loose, Let
it loose, you know, and even even this, like people
get their therapy from their music, And yeah, that's what
I got out of the whole thing with the DMX thing.
You know, he got into the right he was able
to unleash all of that and it was therapeutical, you know.
(37:06):
You know, tons and tons of creativity does creative juices
started flowing as he just drawing from this well. And
that's I think that's the best thing that you can do,
is draw from your personal experience or have some way
of expressing it. That's why people go to counseling that,
you know, to get those things out and let listeners
hear it. Listeners hear it. They might say, man, you
(37:26):
know what I was going through the same thing.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, and it happens, and somebody put it doesn't mean
if I want to be an artist.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
It doesn't mean I have I've gone through trauma or no.
But if you have that and you want to draw
from that, well everything I don't have that. If you don't,
well you're gonna draw that, uh creativity from somewhere else
your life experiences.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Right, I don't have anybody experience you do.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Didn't you get caught still a banana?
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Stop it, stop it. But I know what you're saying,
but you will draw themselves thing something you.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Draw from, like if I'm writing, like if I'm writing
my books, everything that comes out of me, everything.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
From from how I traumatize you.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, but you know that, you know, I'm gonna pull
my family experiences out right, and I may not tell them.
I'm not gonna, you know, start naming names, but I'm
gonna give them a story that might be, you know,
based on that. And it makes me feel good. Now
it's like I don't have to tell any particular person,
but I'm telling everybody without them really knowing, right, And
(38:31):
it kind of like leaves us.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Except for that one person that they experienced was about
they would know right.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
So but yeah, even if even if the story is
I used to watch my mother every day bake cake
or I used to you know, go walk down the
street with her every day, our daily walks an experience.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yeah, not just the badstock this stuff too. So what
about your family life that did that affect you in
any type of way? Like before we ask that, what's
your family life like? What was it like for you
growing up?
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (39:09):
I was real cool. My a few of my cousins lost,
lost my dad, my uncle. Uh so it's like really
around my aunt's so that grandparents sometimes family, you.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Get a lot of influence from them. Yeah, okay, you
have brothers and sisters. Yeah, brothers, brothers, Okay, you have
and so you was you was raised in a single
parent home, a mother. You have brothers, two brothers, yeah yeah,
(39:53):
two younger brothers. Yeah both me okay, okay, see I'm psychic.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
What other? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
And you basically grew up the majority of your time
in in uh PG County. What was the neighborhood like
was it did you get that typical I'm a I'm
gonna come out as a rapper and I had a
fight every day or did you did you have that
that middle class, suburban type environment.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
It was?
Speaker 4 (40:21):
It was people saw it like they would explain it
as a hood.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I was just chilling.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
I was I always on like wescif uh, I just
want to get high every day.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
So no, no, like gang violence and all the typical,
you know, stereotypical stuff that people tribute about.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, the thing that you have to be you come
out of as a rapper because you've had that experience.
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1 (40:57):
You didn't get shot none times?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Then like just the typical trauma.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
The I guess.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Pretty like, So, what was your relationship you had a
one parent household. What was your relationship with your mother?
Was she very inspirational? Protective? Or what does she did?
She you know, leaning on you.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
To say you're the man of the house.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yes, how was it? How was that dynamic?
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I I don't know, I don't know if I'm exciting it,
but I was. I feel like I was watching my
younger brother a lot.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Okay, she was like she.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Was, uh, I guess you could say protective.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, okay, okay, she was the mama bear, most mama bear,
most mamas, our mamair. I'd say that, do you feel
like that anyone in your family influenced you into getting
into music?
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Anybody? Well, let me ask, do you have anybody who
who have who is an entertainer in your family that
you do of?
Speaker 3 (42:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (42:28):
No, okay, so you're the first one. So anybody influenced
you into that? Like give you that that? Uh, I'm
ana I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna do it because
this person inspired me or pushed me.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Ah, it was uh, friends that will push me? Well,
my mom she kind of pushed me, okay, and my
stuff father, he wasn't my stuff. He will kept contact
(43:04):
with him. He will influenced me to keep creating music.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Okay, so let me throwing this before we get to you.
We need a word of day. You know, for those
listeners we do a word of today, I mean a
word of I guess. We call it word of the
day or phrase that pays. I stole that.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, you better stop stealing stuff.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
So for the listeners who listen on these episodes each month,
if you come up with the phrase or the word
of the day at the end of the month, you
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(43:47):
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And if you get the word the special word of
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Speaker 2 (44:02):
So do we have to do a work? Can we
do a number? Can we do eighty eight?
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Eighty eight? Okay, that's so our number of the day
of the day is eighty eight.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
That's a good that's a good. Different one.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Okay, we'll do that and.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
So, so what's coming up next for you?
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Yes, what's the what's the next step in the evolution
of Live eighty eight?
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Working on being like Wayne work assistant. I've been dropping
like like twice a week. I'm thinking, I just try
to get my home studio together right now so I
can work on a collive tape.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
What somebody I'm cool with?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Okay? Sorry, okay, So do you you get a lot
of studio time? Studio time is very expensive.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Yeah, That's why I like, I just I just gotta
uh what's it called. I just got a mac Mannie
trying to get the uh. I had the studio, but
I got rid of it, try and get it back.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Okay. Now what's your what instruments do you use? You
use old school or usually have whoever's going to produce it.
I don't produce, Okay, you just put the so you're
doing the recording part. Yeah, okay, okay. So some of
the ones they have is like the h s P
(45:24):
twelve just came out. That was that was the staple
for every hip hop artist. The s P twelve, the
Rolling nine, O nine, the DR five or six sixty
in the TR eighty eight.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I wish I could understand what you were saying. You
probably could be speaking French right now.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
No, these are all the instruments that I had. A
couple of those those were very You could do almost
anything with those, I mean, sequencers and loops, the whole nine.
So it was pretty good, if you say so.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
But where can people find you? Let us know?
Speaker 1 (45:58):
That was my question? Thank you?
Speaker 4 (46:02):
Check Instagram, appter music, sound Cloud, Spotify, everywhere.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Eighty eight okay eight, so you can find a lot
eighty eight on TikTok SoundCloud, YouTube, Yeah, Facebook.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
Yeah, okay, change my name off Facebook? You changed it,
I got, I got to change my name.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Okay, okay, okay, Well listen, it was a pleasure. I
want to thank you for thank you taking your time
out to come chat with us. And we're gonna try
to make sure we put this out so you know,
maybe your listeners can listen to what you have and
and you can send me some of those those tracks
(46:45):
you got and that we can try to add it
onto the podcast.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
There you go, And when you blow up, don't forget
about your hot topics friends.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yes, when you blow up, we went that first interview, Yes, and.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
We're putting it out there because you're gonna blow up.
Thanks sending you that energy. Absolutely, Thank you family for
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