October 13, 2025 • 39 mins
In this episode of the Hot Wife Podcast, hosts Donna Lynn and her husband explore the intricate dynamics of fantasies versus reality in relationships. They discuss the allure of fulfilling fantasies, the role of spontaneity in sexual experiences, and the complexities involved in navigating fantasies safely. The conversation highlights how sometimes fantasies are better left unfulfilled, as reality can often fall short of expectations. The hosts share personal anecdotes and insights, emphasizing the importance of communication and understanding in intimate relationships.
Takeaways
Takeaways
- Fantasies can often be more pleasurable than reality.
- Spontaneity adds excitement to sexual experiences.
- Not all fantasies should be fulfilled; some are better left as fantasies.
- The excitement of the first time is often unmatched.
- Reality can sometimes be a letdown compared to the fantasy.
- Communication is key in exploring fantasies with partners.
- Fulfilling a fantasy may not always meet expectations.
- Safe words and control are important in BDSM scenarios.
- The allure of danger can be appealing in fantasies.
- Personal experiences shape how we view and fulfill our fantasies
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
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Speaker 1 (00:46):
I'm my podcast, breaking all the norms, open discussions about
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Speaker 3 (00:58):
Hello everybody, this is done, all in and welcome to
my Hot White podcast. And of course I'm here with
my ever loving husband, Vince.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I wouldn't say ever loving.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Oh okay, okay, my for the moment, pain of the
ass husband. There's the truth right there, that's the truth
right now. I feel there. Now you feel the love.
Of course you do. Of course you do, because that's
the kind of relationship we have.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yep, hey falls here, Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's cold rainy, nasty, gloomy gray gray. Yeah, it's the
start of the gray season.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Better to stay inside and have sex for with you
know something. You know it's sunny, you want to go
out and do things. I mean, not that you want
to go outside and fuck, but you know, at least
now it's like you know it covers.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, you don't want to be it's a little bit wrang.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Friend's over to get under the covers.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yep, there you go. It's only so big though, to
be careful.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Wow, you know, pick your friends selectively.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Or you like that one video we saw the bed
was so big it took up the entire room.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
With the lasking.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, king bed bed. That's a fucking room. Yeah, that's
ridiculous room. Yeah, but that's outlandish. But okay whatever, Yeah,
to reach their own.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Right, whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Hey, if you got the room, yeah, if you have
the room exactly, if.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
You have the room for it, go for it.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
But you know, I wonder how big those darn.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I don't know if it's a real thing.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I don't think it's a real I don't know if
it's a real thing or not. But I mean that's
certainly a party bed.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Definitely got room for friends. Oh yeah, friends, you don't
need to put up the safety nets for the trapezes.
I mean the bed is big enough to cover that.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, I won't. Saved me a lot of time.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Hm. I can see the wheels turning in your head.
Steam's coming on.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
No really not, I'm just sitting here like I got
to pace my self with the suburban so before I
go upstairs again.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Oh no, it's terrible, such problems. I know, we have
such horrible problems.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I go through don't have to. What's that I go
through it to others? Don't have to.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Oh that's that's why I thought I'm good that way.
So giving, you're so giving, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So what is tonight's topic.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, we had done a show on fantasies versus reality
a while ago.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
You're married to me. Oh is that not a fantasy?
That's reality? Now.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I don't know which is worse, bitch, But so this
one is kind of anna spin off of that. Should
fantasy stay fantasy or should you try to live it
fulfill it?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah? I mean we've gotten to do both.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, that's true. We have had fantasies and we've had
to We've gotten to fulfill some of those fantasies, but
I don't know. Sometimes fantasies, In my opinion, fantasy should
just stay fantasies, just because sometimes when you try to
fulfill them, they're never not always, but a lot of
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times they're never as fulfilling or as gratifying as the
fantasy is. It's kind of like a letdown. It's kind
of like anti climactic, because you know.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
With the right person it should be very comactic. But no, wow,
the no. I mean, you find most people, I would
think when you have a fantasy, there's so much more
into it. Even if you convey it to your best ability,
to whoever or whoever is right you want, they want
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to be part of this fantasy. They're not going to
fulfill it the same way. You know, you know it
could be a scenario and it isn't going to be
the same.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Well your fantasies. Everything's perfect, you know, everybody is InSync,
there's a flow, there's like multiple people, everybody's in tune
with each other and they kind of it's orchestrated and
everybody has orgasms simultaneously.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Depends if that's some of the stuff in.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Your exactly those kind of things.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That they can just be you with one other person.
It could be a person's going to look this way
and have this kind of body and be able to
perform this kind of a thing and touch you a
certain way, and then this happens, and well it doesn't
always work that way.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
No, So sometimes there are certain fantasies I just like
to keep as fantasies because if you try to fulfill them,
it's not going to measure up, and it's going to
be kind of you know, anticlimactic. It's just not going
to be But but again, what's.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That You could also have a scenario like a fantasy,
but then somehow there's something unique about it that is
so hot. It's something you can look back on and
receive pleasure from that.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Oh that's true too.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So times you've played with a certain stuff, I can't
name one in particular in scenario, but there's times that
you've relived it. Yeah it was really fun, like that
the one young guy you did the first upside down.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, yeah, he's always fun.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You know, you know, you've like that kind of an example.
You've had times you said, oh, yeah, I was thinking
about you know, like what I was going down on
or whatever. It's like, oh, yeah, I was thinking about
the time I was with so and so and we
did this and that, and then you know, the fifth
Brigade or the National Guard showed up and then.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Either way with.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Me, angels did a flyover.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, that's exactly my fantasy's there.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, no, it wasn't. It doesn't have to be a fantasy.
It could be something that happens that wasn't meant to
be a fantasy but comes to be something very erotic
that now it almost moves into a fantasy scenario. I
can say again, you try to replicate that, it's not.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Gonna it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Angels were busy that day, The fifth Regimen was out
on maneuvers.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
You know, it just didn't work out. You know, sometimes
I think fantasy, you hold that at a higher level,
and then you either if you try to uh live
that fantasy, it's gonna fall short, or if you have
a very erotic interlude and you try to replicate it again,
it's not it's never the same. It's never the same. Yeah,
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it's you can get close and it'll still be fun,
but that the first time, the excitement of the first
time you do it is is definitely going to be
something that you remember.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Well, Like the stereotypical one for men is like, oh
I want to women. I'm not saying it's great. I
mean I don't think I ever really had that fantasy.
I always thought like, well, that'd be kind of cool,
kind of cool. I've had that a couple of times too,
or eight times, and it was fun, but actually for
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me in this case was more uh frustrating. Well, it's
very exciting, but then as a man, you know, we
carry a single shot rifle.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
And it's not bird shot either, so it's it's not
going to like you.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Know, well, it could cover some ground, but you can
only do that once. You've got to wait a while.
And then so now you know the other in this case,
I say that women are always like okay, you know,
they have to entertain themselves, and all of a sudden
they could very easily forget about you.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
They just go off with themselves like no, no, no,
you can just stay over there.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You know, women are semi automatic, man, they can just
keep firing. You know a lot of women, yes, and
and again not this not erotic, you know, being with
two women, right, exactly, you know, but it's almost intimidating.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Sure, yeah, especially since you only have a single action
and one shot. What's it.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You know, it takes a little bit of reload. But
I mean, like a woman, okay, for a woman's with
multiple men, right, she's good, you know, she can for
the most part, generally keep going with these guys.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's not like, you know, as long as she you know,
and there's lube for that if she can't stay wet
enough or whatever. But you know, I mean there's more
likely a physical exhaustion.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Physical yeah, I can see that short, but.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
No fantasy, I think, and as also as something that's
actually obtainable. You know, it's like, oh, I want to
have sex with three guys as a parachute out of
a plane.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Hey, come on, they have to tell everybody my fantasy.
Good golly day. You know it's gonna I'm gonna people
signing up, you know. Yeah, I have a plane, Hey,
I have parachute d Yeah. Yeah, that's not happening. Yeah,
not on my best day.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
But you know, but there's some things I think again,
just because of the details, I can think of the
word I wanted to use. I'll use details and details
of that scenario might be so complex that we have
to be so hard to obtain. Yeah, that it's just
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going to be kind of a wet down where fantasy
is far more. It's like, you know, it's far more.
What you can paint in your head is far more
erotic than what you say.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, exactly. I always have a I'm always more like
more agile in my fantasies.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
You know, I'm better looking, hung my shape.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Ripped, I'm more flexible. You know I could. I could
do all these things and just keep going. I have
a lot more energy and stabbing. Yeah, the reality not
quite so much, very close, very close, but no, not
as much as my my fantasies. It's always I'm always
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more energetic, and you know, I can do more. I can,
you know, fit more things into a single hall. You
can handle larger appendages from your partner.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Stop. Stop, I got a trolley horse. I got trolley horse.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I got to hold on I gotta Yeah, that's that's
that's me, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, but yeah, it's I think Yeah again. Info and
Hot Wife Podcast welcome your thought processes on this. You know,
what do you think is fantasy better a fantasy or
you're better off trying to fulfill it.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Hmm. I mean we've had I've had a couple of
fantasies that were kind of fulfilled. But again it did
it did fall short, but it was still good. Don't
tell them.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Why are you looking at me like that?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Okay, I'll look the other way. I mean, it was.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Good in a fantasy. He was gonna be a good husband.
Shut up, you are short?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
What's wrong?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I said? And he fell short?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Oh but I am short, So.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I'm saying for me. For you, your fantasy is like, oh,
he'll be a good husband, but he fell short.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I'm not gonna say what part fell short.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
This way. He's six foot so he's not short that way.
He wears size eleven shoes so it's not.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Short that way.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
It's a pretty good IQ, so he's not short that
way to your imagination.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I'll leave it up to you.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, what else could be short?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Okay? I have no idea, not a clue here. I'm
couldn't come up with it, couldn't come up with anything here.
But yeah, I mean there's a lot of fantasies and
like in your head it's like, oh, this would be
so cool. If if this, I would love to do
this scenario.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Good for you. I always had the fantasy that it
would be a really erotic to fuck in a grassy
field during a rain storm. No, yeah, I did that
once again.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Did you get poison? Ivy?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Itchy, itchy the grass? I've heard it around. It was No,
it wasn't good.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
No. I did have sex once with an old boyfriend
in a hay mow. Actually what hay mouth? A mouth
that's where they put the hay. Okay, it's a part
of the barn where the hay is stored.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, I was thinking of specially. No, I think is
an area.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
It's a mouth. I could be mistaken, but I actually
I don't think it was. I don't think it was hay.
It might have been straw, which is far worse, far worse,
And hay is soft. Hay is what you feed the animals.
It's a softer part of the of the grass. Straw
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is the dead part. It's for bedding, it's not for eating.
Straw is very scratchy, so like like hay bales are
actually straw bales. We had sex on a I think
it was straw. It was not not good, even if
you put a blanket down, it's still not good. It's gee,
it pokes you. It's if you're allergic to you wake
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up with you know, you get off the you know,
your little trust in the in the straw, and you
have welts everywhere from you know, the straw. It's the nasty.
It's terrible. So what we did and actually worked out
pretty good. We had to do like a doggy thing,
like I held onto the There's like a ladder in
the barn and you can climb up and that's where
you put your bales, hey, on the on the top.
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So I held onto that and he kind of did
me doggy. So that actually worked out pretty good.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Wait, wait, I wasn't your first.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Oh hon, you can't be my first, but you can
be my next. Tonight's tonight again, the night's not over.
That's true. So that was okay. But yeah, that fantasy
just not so good. Like, uh, you said one time
you had sex on the beach. Okay, you go ahead
all that.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
No, I was just going to say another of those
fantasy is that like, oh the beach be so so hot,
you know with the waves and everything else. Yeah, that
girl I worked.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
With, Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, we were pretty may Yeah, yeah, got drunk and
we wandered down to the beach and it's like one
of those little uh tens they have where that you
can like they put the chairs so you could rent
in there. But there was an areas that we were
fucking there. But we wind up on the sand and yeah, no,
that was so wrong.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Oh no, no, I mean you get sand like you
don't want say, oh, it's like it's like fucking with
forty great sandpaper. It's it's it's nice, maybe twenty, yeah,
it's it's maybe twenty.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
It's Jersey Shore. It's some pretty rough sand.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah. It always you know, you always see like uh,
really romantic movies where a couples like rolling around the sand,
you see sand on their back. You know, Like reality
is that's not going to end well, somebody's genitals are
going to get shaped off and nobody, yeah, especially the guy,
he does not want a couple of inches shaped off of.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
It becomes a file, just a little stub, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, that's that's pretty awful.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It's you know, it's like oh, fucking in a car.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Show. Yeah, I've had that happen, got busted by Yeah,
but you Yeah, not good.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, I mean there's plenty of people I guess that
their fantasies come through. I mean there's guys that I've
seen on the profile like oh I love fucking women
in front of their husbands and stuff like that. Okay,
they get to do it right, right, you know. Now,
sometimes I'm sure things go wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh It's it's very possible.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
You know, somebody guys like you know I, you know,
don't do that, don't do this. I mean we've talked
about the people with their different rules.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Oh yeah, that's for sure, that's for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
So all of a sudden, the wife starts acting very
positively towards the male that she's playing with, and then
the husband gets jealous.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
And yeah, there's that aspect to everybody gets you know,
ass hurt, you know, are jealous or whatever, you know,
And yeah, that could definitely ruin a whole fantasy. I mean,
there's so many different things that could happen that could
make a fantasy if you try to do it in
reality not quite as good as a fantasy, Like like
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you just said, the environment or how people react to
certain things. If there's you know, multiple couples.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Or things you don't foresee.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Things you don't foresay for sure, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I mean, you know, it could be you think something
as simple. It's like, oh, we're gonna have this really
romantic evening, you know, I'm going to do this or
my husband or whatever. Yeah, and the kids are crying
in the next room. It's just like, well, that killed.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
That, That killed that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Or you're in a hotel you get to get away
from the kids, right right, all of a sudden, you're
hearing other people doing whatever or smells yeah. Ever can
go wrong, you know, So fantasies can very easily get smashed.
So sometimes some fantasy, especially if they're a little more edgy.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I guess that's the way I'll put it, right.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Can be better left of the fantasy sometimes.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Oh, I agree, just because there are so many things
that could just make it less than optimal, less and enjoyable.
There's just too many things that could just ruin it.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I think it's kind of the like what we tend
to do during oral sex is like share a fantasy
or dream or whatever with each other because you get
the share so you can live it in your head. Yes,
and then you're getting the pleasure of what the other
person's doing to you. So you're not living the fantasy
by any stretch, but you're enjoying the fantasy while receiving pleasure.
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And you're still getting the fantasy you want because in
your head, you're painting the scenario the way you want it,
the way.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You want it exactly exactly. You're not getting Charlie horses
or you know, kids crying in the next room, or know,
the cops banging on your door, knocking through the window
of your car, or whatever else could wreck a fantasy.
And there's so many things, so many different avenues that
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fantasies can take, and.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Oh, yeah, yeah, it's it can be you know, I mean,
I mean, don't. We're not trying to say don't try
to fulfill your fantasies, right, but be prepared that it
might not be.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
As good and not be quite as good.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
And when it doesn't turn out as good, does it
ruin the fantasy for you?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
No? Not necessarily. It depends on how how how First
of all, it depends on how much I really want
the fantasy to actually adhere to my fantasy. You know,
I want it a certain way. If I'm really rigid
and this is this is what I want, then it
could possibly ruin it for me. But if it's like,
well I had this fantasy, but I could go one
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where the they're with it as a lot of I
had a lot of leeway. Like the more leeway I
have in a fantasy, the more enjoyable it'd be for me.
Because it's fourteen guys, I'll set for twelve exactly, something like.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That one guy has twice, two guys twice.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Or something like that. I you know, it's things like
that I can't. I think you'll be much more satisfied
if you don't try to adhere to the fantasy script verbatim,
like word for word or action for action. If you
just like kind of I kind of like have this
fantasy where I want to be with a group of guys,
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but you know, if it's four guys or five guys,
and you know, maybe I won't get a total Bookocky.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Maybe we have a five guys fantasy.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Oh you want to go there and eat don't Burgers,
the five guys burgers, everything on it. Yeah, a whole
different fantasy there, See that one actually would be obtainable. Yeah,
that would be a lot more obtainable than my five
guys fantasy.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I can actually tell my friends I had five guys today.
What I got all slop slop?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, it was so messy, disgusting, dirty, dirty, my assholes.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I could be right.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I'm going to shut my brains out.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I know. I still don't want to know. I still
don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
There's something. So I thought, bust the guys you work with. Man,
I had a sexual experience. I had five guys. What
I got all messy, nasty, face was coated, I.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Mean ketchup and mustard. Oh yeah, that's sweet salty.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
My wife's been wanting to get five guys, but I
told her, no.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Two guys something special for me. It's just special for you. Yeah.
I think if you're going to try to attempt to
duplicate a fantasy, just just keep it loose. That scenarios,
it's it's not gonna be chances are you.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Know, you have this hotel room in your head with
you know, fancy headboard paintings on the wall and stuff
like that.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
You go in and it's like their hotel motel velvet
painting of dogs playing poker, Elvis smells like curry or
whatever it is. Yeah, that could definitely kind of deadened
a fantasy for you, just a little bit, just a
little bit. So I guess if you don't go into
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it with a hard, hard and fast rules of your
fantasy and you just let it kind of evolve, it
might be definitely more enjoyable. I mean, I mean, how
many times do people actually get to live a fantasy
and it actually is it's it's actually better, better than
what they had in their head.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I'm sure it happens, yeah, in my life, but I'm
sure that no.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Not so much in mine either. I can Yeah, my
fantasies are always more, yeah, always better in my head
than the execution. I think his execution might be good,
but it's never quite as good as what I have
in my head, not quite. It might be closed.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Sometimes in your head you have kind of like an
order in which it should flow.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Oh yeah, and then it kind of gets out of order,
and I was like, well, now that's not really what
I want it, you know, if you don't if actually,
sometimes the fantasies are better if I have no expectations.
So really, no no fantasy at all, wud be kind
of better.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
No, that's the other thing. Spotan eighty Spontanety can be
far more erotic.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, I agree, because it seems like with the fantasy,
I'm kind of like orchestrating it. You know, there's a
it's almost choreographed. I would need to do this, and
then this this lover comes in and he's like this,
and he is that, and then another one comes in
or whatever it might be. But if you have something
that just spontaneous, sure, I think that's far far more
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erotic because it's unexpected.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Spontaneity is far more right. We've talked about that, just
that whole thing of all of a sudden, it just
starts to happen, you know, and you know, then you
sit back and you're like wow, wow, and look back.
I was thinking we're just gonna go, you know, read
a book together, sit there or whatever, and all of
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a sudden, you.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Know, bam, you know, yeah, just a whole bam whatever. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
So spontaneities definitely very erotic. Again trying but again trying
to get that you can never get that to happen
because it's planned and it's not spontaneous, so it's you know,
(25:53):
you know I'm saying, if you plant something like that,
it's not spontaneous. Now it's it's spontaneous. It happens organically
by itself, without any prodding, without any kind of you know,
predetermined scenario in your head. And that's that just happens organically.
You can't make that happen. Sure, you know, that's why
(26:15):
the parties are what the parties are, because those kind
of things just happen organically there.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Well, the parties, you know, there's the potential.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
There's definitely the potential.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You don't know necessary who the players are exactly, so
it's kind of spontaneous. And again you're beating new people,
so you don't know. Okay, again, it's like we talked
about before. You know, it's like all of a sudden
for you, like all of a sudden, once you pull
their pants down, you go, whoa, this is what you have?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Hello, yeah, exactly, something like that. The nice thing about
a party scenario is that it is spontaneous, spontaneous, but
it's also still kind of controlled. So you have kind
of the gist of both worlds. Like you said, you
can see who all the players are in that environment,
and you have some level of I'll use the word
(27:02):
control in air quotes here. It's not real control, but
you know what you're getting into. It's not like walking
down the street and hoping that somebody will come up
and you know, ravish you and you know all those
kind of of course you do, so you know it's
a way to what's that?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, yeah, ravage.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, I'm sure you would just love that. Well you might.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It depends who it is.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Exactly senior fantasy, and you can predict who it is.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I don't think Heidi Klum's coming down the street to
rap it.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Well, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
You don't know, you don't completely spontaneous, completely completely unlikely.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Maybe I would never say never, but yeah, I mean, yeah,
there's probably. There have been a couple guys I was
with that told me that me being with them was
one of their fantasies and they got to live it out,
so that was kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And I've had women tell me I'm one of the nightmares,
so you're sort.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
It's a dream of sorts. It's just not a good one,
depends how you look. Yeah, some people like nightmares.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I can of enjoy them. Actually, sometimes I'm sick.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
You are sick mental problems.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I need being scared, I like, you know, or whatever
it's in the show.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
That's a whole different.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
All right, Well that's what that's like.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Hold on, hold on a second.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Here.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You're the magazine that you have just put out fifty
Shades of Pleasure. Yeah. Well, in there there's an article
that talks about, you know, the the allure and how
erotic of being scared can be in.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I guess being frightened erotic.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
No, I don't either, but it's certainly something that I
bless you.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah, well that came all of a sudden, didn't But yeah,
that's thank goodness.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
No, I in my own sick way, I guess it's
like what thrill seekers go through. I guess the thrill
of not the thrill for me, but being frightened lets
me feel alive sometimes.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Oh a lot of people say that.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, I don't seek it, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I mean, no, no, I don't see it. I don't
find being frightened erotic to me.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
But I think one of your articles in this magazine
talks about it. Does you read my magazine just just
bits and pieces of me? I really, I really liked
the imagery. The pictures I think are are really erotic.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I worked very hard on that.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
I'm sure you did.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I'll be working on the next one.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I know you will. So, I mean, so those kind
of fantasies, I I guess you could. You could definitely
duplicate them, but I think it would be very difficult
to do, especially if you know, if you if you
here's here's my scenario. You like being scared, you find
(30:17):
being frightened erotic, you find it stimulated. Let's just say
a person does that. Getting that from from a fantasy
to a reality reality scenario, I think would be very
difficult because first of all, you know that you're being
set up, so you're not going to be frightened so exactly.
(30:40):
You know, it's like, uh, some women might have a
fantasy of being abducted and quote I'll use air quotes
for this, and being raped or seduced. I mean, even
I have that fantasy of being you know, seduced and
taken advantage of it, taken advantage of it. No, no,
(31:00):
but being but being I like being restrained. I find
that very erotic. But I don't want to do that
in an unsafe scenario. Sure, you know, so in my
fantasy it's always very pleasurable, and in reality it has
been pleasurable to a certain degree in a controlled environment.
(31:20):
But you know, just having my arms like raaked behind
my back, I think would be very uncomfortable and painful. So,
like you know, sometimes the reality isn't quite as alluring
as the fantasy is in this aspect. So there's so
many other variables, and you know, fantasy as versus reality.
(31:40):
So you know, it's skydiving naked not going to happen.
Not not this girl.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
As long as naked allows you to wear a parachute.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
That's that's a good one. You know, of course, wear
a parachute.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
If jumping on a plane naked includes nothing.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Nothing, well that's not so erotic. Now, just not gonna,
not gonna, not gonna fly.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I wish I could at that point.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yeah, but yeah, there's just certain certain fantasies I just
like to keep on my little fantasy shelf.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I think there are some fantasies people have that could
be completely.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Unobtainable, completely unobtainable.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
You have to that they're better off being just.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Fantasies and you can always visit them. That's a nice
thing about fantasies. I can jump back into that fantasy
and any part, modify it, change it up.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
At Okay, So what part of fantasies is it that
you feel safe in the fact that it is a fantasy.
Not all fantasies, some of the ones you have, like
about being abducted, okay, that there is an element of
danger to it, but you know in the fantasy of it,
(32:55):
there isn't.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Exactly, Okay, So that that makes you feel safety or.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I have control, safe edgy, it's.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
A safe edgy, And in my fantasies, I have control. Sure,
I have control over the situation. So it's me being
seduced and also switching it around, so I'm seducing my seducers.
So that's kind of fun, you know, flipping that around
a little bit. But in the reality of it, no.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Reality, you're out of control. Yeah, not out of you're
you won't have control and you're a pure.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Victim exactly, and that's not fun. That would not be
a fun fantasy.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I mean, people inside the b D s M world,
you know, they have safe words, safe words. The unfortunate
part of the reality of people who do get abducted
which is a horrible thing. There's a safe word. These
people get harmed.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah, so that's no, that's not a good that's you know,
that's certainly not a fantasy I want to experience, that's
for sure. But like in my little world, you know,
I can control the you know, the seduction on me.
I can control the how I'm restrained or not because
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it is my fantasy, and that's you know, that's what
I like. And if people want to recreate a fantasy,
they have to think about all the things that make
the fantasy number one alluring to them and also still
obtainable and still safe. So you have a lot of
there's a lot of a lot of you know, juggling
you have to do to try to create a fantasy
(34:31):
into our reality.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
When you're in the mental realm of a fantasy, you can.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, you can pick exactly. That's what makes it so nice.
I don't have to really think about it. And you know,
there's a lot of logistics in creating a fantasy, Like.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
When you know it's in your head, everything safe, everything safe. Sure,
once you try to go to reality, then you have
to go, well.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
What if yeah, yeah, exactly, I mean there's all kinds
of you know, well, there is a fantasy. I've always
thought it'd be cool. I don't think my body could
ever do it. Remember the one model that was she
was there was a the not tire and they they
suspended her and she was having orgasm. That was so
(35:15):
that is a very erotic fantasy to me. I don't
think I could. I don't think my body would let
me be restrained right now, right now fixed, Yeah, I
got to think about Okay, Yeah, that just puts a
giant you.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Had put it five years ago, Yeah, you would have
eaten that.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Shop, eating that up for sure.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
But you know, once you's take that step out of
fantasy into reality, now it's like, oh there's a lot
of you know, physical limitations, there's a lot of other limitations,
and it kind of like, well, that fantasy is out.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
If you could probably be tied up and get that
but not suspended.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Not suspended now like having my arms like above my head.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
They would do it. They would, these guys who do
that ship quote unquote professionally right, they know how did
they know? Shit that I can't imagine.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
But yeah, yeah, there's there's there's a direct blood flow,
there's a lot to it. You're not just tying not
so it's not just boys out.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Don't go fall for some guys. As I could tie
you up, Yeah you can. You could also hurt you.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
He could really really hurt you anyway.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
All right, I think we kicked this one, they asked, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Think we I think we did to some degree.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
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Speaker 3 (36:41):
Still get to you, huh, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Gets to.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
See where I am and what I've been posting quite
a bit today, so at hot wife donald dot com
and you can see all the platforms I'm on. I've
been posting most of the day because we've we've kind
of in the last month or so, we've been shooting
or I've been well, you've been shooting me. Let's put
it that way.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I haven't shot anything of you in a while.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
You would think that about yeah, but they've been there
sitting there because we there was a few weeks there
we were doing it like you know, more more regularly,
and we had a really would have been a really
really cool uh uh young man that was coming down
and we're going to meet at one of the casinos
(37:27):
in the uh hotels and I was, you know, I
played with them, oh gosh, about a year year and
a half ago, something like that. And we're going to
meet a hotel and he emailed or texted me and said,
I have to cancel him so far, so sorry. I
fell about mountain biking and his face is all mangled
(37:47):
and he's got stitches and he has a concussion and
he says his legs all messed up and apparently not.
I was like, okay, next time.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
It's like, yeahs wounds, make them better.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I was gonna see all you got to do is
just lay there. But now he was probably way.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Too much, a couple of hours away driving.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Yeah, it would have been awful. Yeah, he was more local.
We probably would have been maybe a little bit different.
I don't know. But so next time that'll be, that'll
be it'll be pretty hot.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I can't want to thank everyone for listening. Encourage you
to hopefully share it with your friends. Let them listen.
Doesn't cost him anything. Always looking forward to having people
give us some input, topics, questions. Sure, uh you know,
my our favorite cookie has been He actually says he
(38:40):
he's the one who did bang his neighbor. Oh really, yeah,
I'm sorry. I lied to you so bad. Cookie not
my favorite cookie anymore. I'm going to a different cookie.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Don't be jealous.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
So anyway, I love to hear from everybody again, Thank
you for listening. And let's get ready for a Halloween
that sounds good. Stay horny, all right, have
Speaker 3 (39:03):
A great night, everybody.
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I wouldn't say ever loving.
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Oh okay, okay, my for the moment, pain of the
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right now. I feel there. Now you feel the love.
Of course you do. Of course you do, because that's
the kind of relationship we have.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yep, hey falls here, Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's cold rainy, nasty, gloomy gray gray. Yeah, it's the
start of the gray season.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Better to stay inside and have sex for with you
know something. You know it's sunny, you want to go
out and do things. I mean, not that you want
to go outside and fuck, but you know, at least
now it's like you know it covers.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, you don't want to be it's a little bit wrang.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Friend's over to get under the covers.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yep, there you go. It's only so big though, to
be careful.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Wow, you know, pick your friends selectively.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Or you like that one video we saw the bed
was so big it took up the entire room.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
With the lasking.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, king bed bed. That's a fucking room. Yeah, that's
ridiculous room. Yeah, but that's outlandish. But okay whatever, Yeah,
to reach their own.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Right, whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Hey, if you got the room, yeah, if you have
the room exactly, if.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
You have the room for it, go for it.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
But you know, I wonder how big those darn.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I don't know if it's a real thing.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I don't think it's a real I don't know if
it's a real thing or not. But I mean that's
certainly a party bed.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Definitely got room for friends. Oh yeah, friends, you don't
need to put up the safety nets for the trapezes.
I mean the bed is big enough to cover that.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, I won't. Saved me a lot of time.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Hm. I can see the wheels turning in your head.
Steam's coming on.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
No really not, I'm just sitting here like I got
to pace my self with the suburban so before I
go upstairs again.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Oh no, it's terrible, such problems. I know, we have
such horrible problems.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I go through don't have to. What's that I go
through it to others? Don't have to.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Oh that's that's why I thought I'm good that way.
So giving, you're so giving, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So what is tonight's topic.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, we had done a show on fantasies versus reality
a while ago.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
You're married to me. Oh is that not a fantasy?
That's reality? Now.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I don't know which is worse, bitch, But so this
one is kind of anna spin off of that. Should
fantasy stay fantasy or should you try to live it
fulfill it?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah? I mean we've gotten to do both.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, that's true. We have had fantasies and we've had
to We've gotten to fulfill some of those fantasies, but
I don't know. Sometimes fantasies, In my opinion, fantasy should
just stay fantasies, just because sometimes when you try to
fulfill them, they're never not always, but a lot of
(04:26):
times they're never as fulfilling or as gratifying as the
fantasy is. It's kind of like a letdown. It's kind
of like anti climactic, because you know.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
With the right person it should be very comactic. But no, wow,
the no. I mean, you find most people, I would
think when you have a fantasy, there's so much more
into it. Even if you convey it to your best ability,
to whoever or whoever is right you want, they want
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to be part of this fantasy. They're not going to
fulfill it the same way. You know, you know it
could be a scenario and it isn't going to be
the same.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Well your fantasies. Everything's perfect, you know, everybody is InSync,
there's a flow, there's like multiple people, everybody's in tune
with each other and they kind of it's orchestrated and
everybody has orgasms simultaneously.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Depends if that's some of the stuff in.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Your exactly those kind of things.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That they can just be you with one other person.
It could be a person's going to look this way
and have this kind of body and be able to
perform this kind of a thing and touch you a
certain way, and then this happens, and well it doesn't
always work that way.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
No, So sometimes there are certain fantasies I just like
to keep as fantasies because if you try to fulfill them,
it's not going to measure up, and it's going to
be kind of you know, anticlimactic. It's just not going
to be But but again, what's.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That You could also have a scenario like a fantasy,
but then somehow there's something unique about it that is
so hot. It's something you can look back on and
receive pleasure from that.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Oh that's true too.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So times you've played with a certain stuff, I can't
name one in particular in scenario, but there's times that
you've relived it. Yeah it was really fun, like that
the one young guy you did the first upside down.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, yeah, he's always fun.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You know, you know, you've like that kind of an example.
You've had times you said, oh, yeah, I was thinking
about you know, like what I was going down on
or whatever. It's like, oh, yeah, I was thinking about
the time I was with so and so and we
did this and that, and then you know, the fifth
Brigade or the National Guard showed up and then.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Either way with.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Me, angels did a flyover.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, that's exactly my fantasy's there.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, no, it wasn't. It doesn't have to be a fantasy.
It could be something that happens that wasn't meant to
be a fantasy but comes to be something very erotic
that now it almost moves into a fantasy scenario. I
can say again, you try to replicate that, it's not.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Gonna it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Angels were busy that day, The fifth Regimen was out
on maneuvers.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
You know, it just didn't work out. You know, sometimes
I think fantasy, you hold that at a higher level,
and then you either if you try to uh live
that fantasy, it's gonna fall short, or if you have
a very erotic interlude and you try to replicate it again,
it's not it's never the same. It's never the same. Yeah,
(07:55):
it's you can get close and it'll still be fun,
but that the first time, the excitement of the first
time you do it is is definitely going to be
something that you remember.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Well, Like the stereotypical one for men is like, oh
I want to women. I'm not saying it's great. I
mean I don't think I ever really had that fantasy.
I always thought like, well, that'd be kind of cool,
kind of cool. I've had that a couple of times too,
or eight times, and it was fun, but actually for
(08:26):
me in this case was more uh frustrating. Well, it's
very exciting, but then as a man, you know, we
carry a single shot rifle.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
And it's not bird shot either, so it's it's not
going to like you.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Know, well, it could cover some ground, but you can
only do that once. You've got to wait a while.
And then so now you know the other in this case,
I say that women are always like okay, you know,
they have to entertain themselves, and all of a sudden
they could very easily forget about you.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
They just go off with themselves like no, no, no,
you can just stay over there.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You know, women are semi automatic, man, they can just
keep firing. You know a lot of women, yes, and
and again not this not erotic, you know, being with
two women, right, exactly, you know, but it's almost intimidating.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Sure, yeah, especially since you only have a single action
and one shot. What's it.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You know, it takes a little bit of reload. But
I mean, like a woman, okay, for a woman's with
multiple men, right, she's good, you know, she can for
the most part, generally keep going with these guys.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's not like, you know, as long as she you know,
and there's lube for that if she can't stay wet
enough or whatever. But you know, I mean there's more
likely a physical exhaustion.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Physical yeah, I can see that short, but.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
No fantasy, I think, and as also as something that's
actually obtainable. You know, it's like, oh, I want to
have sex with three guys as a parachute out of
a plane.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Hey, come on, they have to tell everybody my fantasy.
Good golly day. You know it's gonna I'm gonna people
signing up, you know. Yeah, I have a plane, Hey,
I have parachute d Yeah. Yeah, that's not happening. Yeah,
not on my best day.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
But you know, but there's some things I think again,
just because of the details, I can think of the
word I wanted to use. I'll use details and details
of that scenario might be so complex that we have
to be so hard to obtain. Yeah, that it's just
(10:54):
going to be kind of a wet down where fantasy
is far more. It's like, you know, it's far more.
What you can paint in your head is far more
erotic than what you say.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, exactly. I always have a I'm always more like
more agile in my fantasies.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
You know, I'm better looking, hung my shape.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Ripped, I'm more flexible. You know I could. I could
do all these things and just keep going. I have
a lot more energy and stabbing. Yeah, the reality not
quite so much, very close, very close, but no, not
as much as my my fantasies. It's always I'm always
(11:40):
more energetic, and you know, I can do more. I can,
you know, fit more things into a single hall. You
can handle larger appendages from your partner.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Stop. Stop, I got a trolley horse. I got trolley horse.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I got to hold on I gotta Yeah, that's that's
that's me, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, but yeah, it's I think Yeah again. Info and
Hot Wife Podcast welcome your thought processes on this. You know,
what do you think is fantasy better a fantasy or
you're better off trying to fulfill it.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Hmm. I mean we've had I've had a couple of
fantasies that were kind of fulfilled. But again it did
it did fall short, but it was still good. Don't
tell them.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Why are you looking at me like that?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Okay, I'll look the other way. I mean, it was.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Good in a fantasy. He was gonna be a good husband.
Shut up, you are short?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
What's wrong?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I said? And he fell short?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Oh but I am short, So.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I'm saying for me. For you, your fantasy is like, oh,
he'll be a good husband, but he fell short.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I'm not gonna say what part fell short.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
This way. He's six foot so he's not short that way.
He wears size eleven shoes so it's not.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Short that way.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
It's a pretty good IQ, so he's not short that
way to your imagination.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I'll leave it up to you.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, what else could be short?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Okay? I have no idea, not a clue here. I'm
couldn't come up with it, couldn't come up with anything here.
But yeah, I mean there's a lot of fantasies and
like in your head it's like, oh, this would be
so cool. If if this, I would love to do
this scenario.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Good for you. I always had the fantasy that it
would be a really erotic to fuck in a grassy
field during a rain storm. No, yeah, I did that
once again.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Did you get poison? Ivy?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Itchy, itchy the grass? I've heard it around. It was No,
it wasn't good.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
No. I did have sex once with an old boyfriend
in a hay mow. Actually what hay mouth? A mouth
that's where they put the hay. Okay, it's a part
of the barn where the hay is stored.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, I was thinking of specially. No, I think is
an area.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
It's a mouth. I could be mistaken, but I actually
I don't think it was. I don't think it was hay.
It might have been straw, which is far worse, far worse,
And hay is soft. Hay is what you feed the animals.
It's a softer part of the of the grass. Straw
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is the dead part. It's for bedding, it's not for eating.
Straw is very scratchy, so like like hay bales are
actually straw bales. We had sex on a I think
it was straw. It was not not good, even if
you put a blanket down, it's still not good. It's gee,
it pokes you. It's if you're allergic to you wake
(15:03):
up with you know, you get off the you know,
your little trust in the in the straw, and you
have welts everywhere from you know, the straw. It's the nasty.
It's terrible. So what we did and actually worked out
pretty good. We had to do like a doggy thing,
like I held onto the There's like a ladder in
the barn and you can climb up and that's where
you put your bales, hey, on the on the top.
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So I held onto that and he kind of did
me doggy. So that actually worked out pretty good.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Wait, wait, I wasn't your first.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Oh hon, you can't be my first, but you can
be my next. Tonight's tonight again, the night's not over.
That's true. So that was okay. But yeah, that fantasy
just not so good. Like, uh, you said one time
you had sex on the beach. Okay, you go ahead
all that.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
No, I was just going to say another of those
fantasy is that like, oh the beach be so so hot,
you know with the waves and everything else. Yeah, that
girl I worked.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
With, Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, we were pretty may Yeah, yeah, got drunk and
we wandered down to the beach and it's like one
of those little uh tens they have where that you
can like they put the chairs so you could rent
in there. But there was an areas that we were
fucking there. But we wind up on the sand and yeah, no,
that was so wrong.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Oh no, no, I mean you get sand like you
don't want say, oh, it's like it's like fucking with
forty great sandpaper. It's it's it's nice, maybe twenty, yeah,
it's it's maybe twenty.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
It's Jersey Shore. It's some pretty rough sand.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah. It always you know, you always see like uh,
really romantic movies where a couples like rolling around the sand,
you see sand on their back. You know, Like reality
is that's not going to end well, somebody's genitals are
going to get shaped off and nobody, yeah, especially the guy,
he does not want a couple of inches shaped off of.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
It becomes a file, just a little stub, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, that's that's pretty awful.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It's you know, it's like oh, fucking in a car.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Show. Yeah, I've had that happen, got busted by Yeah,
but you Yeah, not good.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, I mean there's plenty of people I guess that
their fantasies come through. I mean there's guys that I've
seen on the profile like oh I love fucking women
in front of their husbands and stuff like that. Okay,
they get to do it right, right, you know. Now,
sometimes I'm sure things go wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh It's it's very possible.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
You know, somebody guys like you know I, you know,
don't do that, don't do this. I mean we've talked
about the people with their different rules.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Oh yeah, that's for sure, that's for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
So all of a sudden, the wife starts acting very
positively towards the male that she's playing with, and then
the husband gets jealous.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
And yeah, there's that aspect to everybody gets you know,
ass hurt, you know, are jealous or whatever, you know,
And yeah, that could definitely ruin a whole fantasy. I mean,
there's so many different things that could happen that could
make a fantasy if you try to do it in
reality not quite as good as a fantasy, Like like
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you just said, the environment or how people react to
certain things. If there's you know, multiple couples.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Or things you don't foresee.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Things you don't foresay for sure, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I mean, you know, it could be you think something
as simple. It's like, oh, we're gonna have this really
romantic evening, you know, I'm going to do this or
my husband or whatever. Yeah, and the kids are crying
in the next room. It's just like, well, that killed.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
That, That killed that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Or you're in a hotel you get to get away
from the kids, right right, all of a sudden, you're
hearing other people doing whatever or smells yeah. Ever can
go wrong, you know, So fantasies can very easily get smashed.
So sometimes some fantasy, especially if they're a little more edgy.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I guess that's the way I'll put it, right.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Can be better left of the fantasy sometimes.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Oh, I agree, just because there are so many things
that could just make it less than optimal, less and enjoyable.
There's just too many things that could just ruin it.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I think it's kind of the like what we tend
to do during oral sex is like share a fantasy
or dream or whatever with each other because you get
the share so you can live it in your head. Yes,
and then you're getting the pleasure of what the other
person's doing to you. So you're not living the fantasy
by any stretch, but you're enjoying the fantasy while receiving pleasure.
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And you're still getting the fantasy you want because in
your head, you're painting the scenario the way you want it,
the way.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You want it exactly exactly. You're not getting Charlie horses
or you know, kids crying in the next room, or know,
the cops banging on your door, knocking through the window
of your car, or whatever else could wreck a fantasy.
And there's so many things, so many different avenues that
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fantasies can take, and.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Oh, yeah, yeah, it's it can be you know, I mean,
I mean, don't. We're not trying to say don't try
to fulfill your fantasies, right, but be prepared that it
might not be.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
As good and not be quite as good.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
And when it doesn't turn out as good, does it
ruin the fantasy for you?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
No? Not necessarily. It depends on how how how First
of all, it depends on how much I really want
the fantasy to actually adhere to my fantasy. You know,
I want it a certain way. If I'm really rigid
and this is this is what I want, then it
could possibly ruin it for me. But if it's like,
well I had this fantasy, but I could go one
(20:59):
where the they're with it as a lot of I
had a lot of leeway. Like the more leeway I
have in a fantasy, the more enjoyable it'd be for me.
Because it's fourteen guys, I'll set for twelve exactly, something like.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That one guy has twice, two guys twice.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Or something like that. I you know, it's things like
that I can't. I think you'll be much more satisfied
if you don't try to adhere to the fantasy script verbatim,
like word for word or action for action. If you
just like kind of I kind of like have this
fantasy where I want to be with a group of guys,
(21:39):
but you know, if it's four guys or five guys,
and you know, maybe I won't get a total Bookocky.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Maybe we have a five guys fantasy.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Oh you want to go there and eat don't Burgers,
the five guys burgers, everything on it. Yeah, a whole
different fantasy there, See that one actually would be obtainable. Yeah,
that would be a lot more obtainable than my five
guys fantasy.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I can actually tell my friends I had five guys today.
What I got all slop slop?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, it was so messy, disgusting, dirty, dirty, my assholes.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I could be right.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I'm going to shut my brains out.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I know. I still don't want to know. I still
don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
There's something. So I thought, bust the guys you work with. Man,
I had a sexual experience. I had five guys. What
I got all messy, nasty, face was coated, I.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Mean ketchup and mustard. Oh yeah, that's sweet salty.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
My wife's been wanting to get five guys, but I
told her, no.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Two guys something special for me. It's just special for you. Yeah.
I think if you're going to try to attempt to
duplicate a fantasy, just just keep it loose. That scenarios,
it's it's not gonna be chances are you.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Know, you have this hotel room in your head with
you know, fancy headboard paintings on the wall and stuff
like that.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
You go in and it's like their hotel motel velvet
painting of dogs playing poker, Elvis smells like curry or
whatever it is. Yeah, that could definitely kind of deadened
a fantasy for you, just a little bit, just a
little bit. So I guess if you don't go into
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it with a hard, hard and fast rules of your
fantasy and you just let it kind of evolve, it
might be definitely more enjoyable. I mean, I mean, how
many times do people actually get to live a fantasy
and it actually is it's it's actually better, better than
what they had in their head.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I'm sure it happens, yeah, in my life, but I'm
sure that no.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Not so much in mine either. I can Yeah, my
fantasies are always more, yeah, always better in my head
than the execution. I think his execution might be good,
but it's never quite as good as what I have
in my head, not quite. It might be closed.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Sometimes in your head you have kind of like an
order in which it should flow.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Oh yeah, and then it kind of gets out of order,
and I was like, well, now that's not really what
I want it, you know, if you don't if actually,
sometimes the fantasies are better if I have no expectations.
So really, no no fantasy at all, wud be kind
of better.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
No, that's the other thing. Spotan eighty Spontanety can be
far more erotic.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, I agree, because it seems like with the fantasy,
I'm kind of like orchestrating it. You know, there's a
it's almost choreographed. I would need to do this, and
then this this lover comes in and he's like this,
and he is that, and then another one comes in
or whatever it might be. But if you have something
that just spontaneous, sure, I think that's far far more
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erotic because it's unexpected.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Spontaneity is far more right. We've talked about that, just
that whole thing of all of a sudden, it just
starts to happen, you know, and you know, then you
sit back and you're like wow, wow, and look back.
I was thinking we're just gonna go, you know, read
a book together, sit there or whatever, and all of
(25:31):
a sudden, you.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Know, bam, you know, yeah, just a whole bam whatever. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
So spontaneities definitely very erotic. Again trying but again trying
to get that you can never get that to happen
because it's planned and it's not spontaneous, so it's you know,
(25:53):
you know I'm saying, if you plant something like that,
it's not spontaneous. Now it's it's spontaneous. It happens organically
by itself, without any prodding, without any kind of you know,
predetermined scenario in your head. And that's that just happens organically.
You can't make that happen. Sure, you know, that's why
(26:15):
the parties are what the parties are, because those kind
of things just happen organically there.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Well, the parties, you know, there's the potential.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
There's definitely the potential.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You don't know necessary who the players are exactly, so
it's kind of spontaneous. And again you're beating new people,
so you don't know. Okay, again, it's like we talked
about before. You know, it's like all of a sudden
for you, like all of a sudden, once you pull
their pants down, you go, whoa, this is what you have?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Hello, yeah, exactly, something like that. The nice thing about
a party scenario is that it is spontaneous, spontaneous, but
it's also still kind of controlled. So you have kind
of the gist of both worlds. Like you said, you
can see who all the players are in that environment,
and you have some level of I'll use the word
(27:02):
control in air quotes here. It's not real control, but
you know what you're getting into. It's not like walking
down the street and hoping that somebody will come up
and you know, ravish you and you know all those
kind of of course you do, so you know it's
a way to what's that?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, yeah, ravage.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, I'm sure you would just love that. Well you might.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It depends who it is.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Exactly senior fantasy, and you can predict who it is.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I don't think Heidi Klum's coming down the street to
rap it.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Well, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
You don't know, you don't completely spontaneous, completely completely unlikely.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Maybe I would never say never, but yeah, I mean, yeah,
there's probably. There have been a couple guys I was
with that told me that me being with them was
one of their fantasies and they got to live it out,
so that was kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And I've had women tell me I'm one of the nightmares,
so you're sort.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
It's a dream of sorts. It's just not a good one,
depends how you look. Yeah, some people like nightmares.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I can of enjoy them. Actually, sometimes I'm sick.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
You are sick mental problems.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I need being scared, I like, you know, or whatever
it's in the show.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
That's a whole different.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
All right, Well that's what that's like.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Hold on, hold on a second.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Here.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You're the magazine that you have just put out fifty
Shades of Pleasure. Yeah. Well, in there there's an article
that talks about, you know, the the allure and how
erotic of being scared can be in.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I guess being frightened erotic.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
No, I don't either, but it's certainly something that I
bless you.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah, well that came all of a sudden, didn't But yeah,
that's thank goodness.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
No, I in my own sick way, I guess it's
like what thrill seekers go through. I guess the thrill
of not the thrill for me, but being frightened lets
me feel alive sometimes.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Oh a lot of people say that.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, I don't seek it, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I mean, no, no, I don't see it. I don't
find being frightened erotic to me.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
But I think one of your articles in this magazine
talks about it. Does you read my magazine just just
bits and pieces of me? I really, I really liked
the imagery. The pictures I think are are really erotic.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I worked very hard on that.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
I'm sure you did.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I'll be working on the next one.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I know you will. So, I mean, so those kind
of fantasies, I I guess you could. You could definitely
duplicate them, but I think it would be very difficult
to do, especially if you know, if you if you
here's here's my scenario. You like being scared, you find
(30:17):
being frightened erotic, you find it stimulated. Let's just say
a person does that. Getting that from from a fantasy
to a reality reality scenario, I think would be very
difficult because first of all, you know that you're being
set up, so you're not going to be frightened so exactly.
(30:40):
You know, it's like, uh, some women might have a
fantasy of being abducted and quote I'll use air quotes
for this, and being raped or seduced. I mean, even
I have that fantasy of being you know, seduced and
taken advantage of it, taken advantage of it. No, no,
(31:00):
but being but being I like being restrained. I find
that very erotic. But I don't want to do that
in an unsafe scenario. Sure, you know, so in my
fantasy it's always very pleasurable, and in reality it has
been pleasurable to a certain degree in a controlled environment.
(31:20):
But you know, just having my arms like raaked behind
my back, I think would be very uncomfortable and painful. So,
like you know, sometimes the reality isn't quite as alluring
as the fantasy is in this aspect. So there's so
many other variables, and you know, fantasy as versus reality.
(31:40):
So you know, it's skydiving naked not going to happen.
Not not this girl.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
As long as naked allows you to wear a parachute.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
That's that's a good one. You know, of course, wear
a parachute.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
If jumping on a plane naked includes nothing.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Nothing, well that's not so erotic. Now, just not gonna,
not gonna, not gonna fly.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I wish I could at that point.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yeah, but yeah, there's just certain certain fantasies I just
like to keep on my little fantasy shelf.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I think there are some fantasies people have that could
be completely.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Unobtainable, completely unobtainable.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
You have to that they're better off being just.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Fantasies and you can always visit them. That's a nice
thing about fantasies. I can jump back into that fantasy
and any part, modify it, change it up.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
At Okay, So what part of fantasies is it that
you feel safe in the fact that it is a fantasy.
Not all fantasies, some of the ones you have, like
about being abducted, okay, that there is an element of
danger to it, but you know in the fantasy of it,
(32:55):
there isn't.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Exactly, Okay, So that that makes you feel safety or.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I have control, safe edgy, it's.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
A safe edgy, And in my fantasies, I have control. Sure,
I have control over the situation. So it's me being
seduced and also switching it around, so I'm seducing my seducers.
So that's kind of fun, you know, flipping that around
a little bit. But in the reality of it, no.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Reality, you're out of control. Yeah, not out of you're
you won't have control and you're a pure.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Victim exactly, and that's not fun. That would not be
a fun fantasy.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I mean, people inside the b D s M world,
you know, they have safe words, safe words. The unfortunate
part of the reality of people who do get abducted
which is a horrible thing. There's a safe word. These
people get harmed.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah, so that's no, that's not a good that's you know,
that's certainly not a fantasy I want to experience, that's
for sure. But like in my little world, you know,
I can control the you know, the seduction on me.
I can control the how I'm restrained or not because
(34:10):
it is my fantasy, and that's you know, that's what
I like. And if people want to recreate a fantasy,
they have to think about all the things that make
the fantasy number one alluring to them and also still
obtainable and still safe. So you have a lot of
there's a lot of a lot of you know, juggling
you have to do to try to create a fantasy
(34:31):
into our reality.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
When you're in the mental realm of a fantasy, you can.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, you can pick exactly. That's what makes it so nice.
I don't have to really think about it. And you know,
there's a lot of logistics in creating a fantasy, Like.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
When you know it's in your head, everything safe, everything safe. Sure,
once you try to go to reality, then you have
to go, well.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
What if yeah, yeah, exactly, I mean there's all kinds
of you know, well, there is a fantasy. I've always
thought it'd be cool. I don't think my body could
ever do it. Remember the one model that was she
was there was a the not tire and they they
suspended her and she was having orgasm. That was so
(35:15):
that is a very erotic fantasy to me. I don't
think I could. I don't think my body would let
me be restrained right now, right now fixed, Yeah, I
got to think about Okay, Yeah, that just puts a
giant you.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Had put it five years ago, Yeah, you would have
eaten that.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Shop, eating that up for sure.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
But you know, once you's take that step out of
fantasy into reality, now it's like, oh there's a lot
of you know, physical limitations, there's a lot of other limitations,
and it kind of like, well, that fantasy is out.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
If you could probably be tied up and get that
but not suspended.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Not suspended now like having my arms like above my head.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
They would do it. They would, these guys who do
that ship quote unquote professionally right, they know how did
they know? Shit that I can't imagine.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
But yeah, yeah, there's there's there's a direct blood flow,
there's a lot to it. You're not just tying not
so it's not just boys out.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Don't go fall for some guys. As I could tie
you up, Yeah you can. You could also hurt you.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
He could really really hurt you anyway.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
All right, I think we kicked this one, they asked, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Think we I think we did to some degree.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
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Speaker 3 (36:41):
Still get to you, huh, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Gets to.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
See where I am and what I've been posting quite
a bit today, so at hot wife donald dot com
and you can see all the platforms I'm on. I've
been posting most of the day because we've we've kind
of in the last month or so, we've been shooting
or I've been well, you've been shooting me. Let's put
it that way.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I haven't shot anything of you in a while.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
You would think that about yeah, but they've been there
sitting there because we there was a few weeks there
we were doing it like you know, more more regularly,
and we had a really would have been a really
really cool uh uh young man that was coming down
and we're going to meet at one of the casinos
(37:27):
in the uh hotels and I was, you know, I
played with them, oh gosh, about a year year and
a half ago, something like that. And we're going to
meet a hotel and he emailed or texted me and said,
I have to cancel him so far, so sorry. I
fell about mountain biking and his face is all mangled
(37:47):
and he's got stitches and he has a concussion and
he says his legs all messed up and apparently not.
I was like, okay, next time.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
It's like, yeahs wounds, make them better.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I was gonna see all you got to do is
just lay there. But now he was probably way.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Too much, a couple of hours away driving.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Yeah, it would have been awful. Yeah, he was more local.
We probably would have been maybe a little bit different.
I don't know. But so next time that'll be, that'll
be it'll be pretty hot.
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give us some input, topics, questions. Sure, uh you know,
my our favorite cookie has been He actually says he
(38:40):
he's the one who did bang his neighbor. Oh really, yeah,
I'm sorry. I lied to you so bad. Cookie not
my favorite cookie anymore. I'm going to a different cookie.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Don't be jealous.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
So anyway, I love to hear from everybody again, Thank
you for listening. And let's get ready for a Halloween
that sounds good. Stay horny, all right, have
Speaker 3 (39:03):
A great night, everybody.
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