How To Make It

How To Make It

Tired of the social media and award show ‘highlight reels’ of success in entertainment, How To Make It hosts and perpetually exhausted yet bright-eyed industry veterans Emily and Haley were determined to bring a new point-of-view to the table. Aided each episode by a different celebrity guest who the ladies consider to have ‘made it,’ we delve into all the WTF moments it takes to become a success in entertainment, and what ‘making it’ even means. How To Make It aims to encourage and inspire struggling artists to continue in the pursuit of their creative dreams by not interviewing the celebrity, but the person underneath. Follow us on Instagram: @howtomakeitpodcast Follow us on YouTube: @howtomakeitpodcast Follow Emily: @emilycappello_ Follow Haley: @haleymuralee

Episodes

September 15, 2025 48 mins
SAG Award-winning actor Michael Cyril Creighton joins Emily & Haley to discuss Season 5 of ‘Only Murders in the Building,’ how Michael’s character Howard went from a two episode gig to a beloved character of the series, and all the fabulous adjectives that describe Meryl Streep. Emily is in disbelief at Michael’s potato chip audition horror story, Haley digs into Michael’s iconic ’30 Rock’ role, and we all list our reasons for ...
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Writer, director, actor, and Grammy Award-winning musician Nora Kirkpatrick joins Emily to discuss her directorial debut 'A Tree Fell in the Woods.' We get into Nora's unconventional route to directing, why she initially wanted to be a paleontologist, and Nora reveals what it was like working with an all star cast including Josh Gadd, Alexandra Deddario, Daveed Diggs, and Ashley Park. Emily is so engrossed in the coversation that s...
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Director and writer Christian Swegal joins Emily to discuss what inspired his new film 'Sovereign,' working with Jacob Tremblay and Nick Offerman, and Christian's best advice to aspiring directors. We discuss what it takes to write a great character, how Christian worked his way into the director's chair, and Nick Offerman's advice on reading reviews. 

You can stream 'Sovereign' now on Apple TV, Prime Video, Google Play, and Fandang...
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August 18, 2025 49 mins
Comedian and YouTube king Ryan George returns to the pod to talk to Emily and Haley about losing out (yet again) on playing Harry Potter, taking a step back from his hit 'Pitch Meeting' web series, and his dream of writing for 'Love Island.' Emily wonders at what age Ryan's daughter will discover his YouTube videos, Haley compliments Ryan's British accent, and we find the line between what's stupid and what's funny. So nail some br...
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Composer Theodore Shapiro joins Emily to discuss his music career, from projects like The Devil Wears Prada to Marley & Me to Severance. We talk about musical themes in the iconic Severance theme,what it's like to hear your composition played live for the first time, and Theodore's first collaboration with Ben Stiller on The Secret Life of Walter Mitty. Emily cannot contain her excitement for this episode, and we hope you can't...
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Magician Gabriella Lester joins Emily & Haley to discuss her work as an escape artist, performing at the Magic Castle, and the art of teaching magic to kids. Emily can't believe Gabriella has never seen 'Harry Potter,' Haley pulls a stuffed animal out of her printer, and we attempt to start a crisis management firm. So locate your wand, stay awake for twenty-four hours, and eat a prop as you enjoy Chapter 26 of 'How To Make It....
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Singer and actor Toby Sebastian joins Emily and Haley to discuss getting back into the recording studio, being a biopic pro, and how to handle rejection. Haley thinks she knows Toby's mom, Emily wonders if she should take up the drums, and we figure out how long it would take to walk across England. So record a song, call your mom, and crawl to Scotland as you listen to Chapter 25 of 'How To Make It.'

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Actor Michael Chernus joins Emily & Haley to discuss what he learned from performing the Severance audiobook, his Rom-Com meet-cute with his wife, and his upcoming true crime series. Emily attempts to start several businesses with Michael, Haley reveals how you can tell when you're working with a theater actor, and we dig into 'Orange is the New Black,' 'Patriot,' and 'Spiderman.' So put on your leather jacket, drink a smoothie...
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Comedian Matthew Brousard joins Emily & Haley to discuss his move from finance to stand-up comedy, his passion for teaching mathematics, and the pointlessness of impostor syndrome. Emily details her run-in with Jojo Siwa, Haley doesn't understand why everyone fantasizes about England, and we give our honest opinions on major US cities.

So put on your Power Ranger suit, get in a pointless queue, and think about math as you listen...
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Actor Ólafur 'Darri' Ólafsson joins Emily & Haley to discuss being star-struck on the set of 'Severance,' his role in the 'Eurovision Song Contest,' and is the first guest to wonder how Emily & Haley know each other. Emily can't help but talk about 'The Office,' Haley wonders if Darri's audiobook career will take him anywhere saucy, and we find out if Iceland is really as cold as it sounds.

So tuck your leather jacket into y...
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Actress, singer, and drag royalty Peppermint joins Emily & Haley to discuss the glory days of MySpace, why you should never accept socks from strangers, and what holiday ornaments have to do with her eventual career as a performer. Emily and Peppermint bond over their love of miniatures, Haley learns about professional cheerleaders, and Peppermint teaches us the horrors of getting ready near a urinal. So keep your cheerleading ...
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Stand-up comedian and child of divorce Gianmarco Soresi joins Emily and Haley to discuss his fear of narrow sidewalks, mastering the art of the handstand, and when it is appropriate to take a bow. Emily uses this opportunity to mention Zach Woods for the millionth time; Haley attempts to lure Gianmarco back into playwriting, and we discuss all of Gianmarco's failures. So turn on the A/C, stage a marriage proposal, and get me a f*ck...
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Actress Sydney Cole Alexander joins Emily and Haley to discuss how a Crest commercial influenced her role on Apple TV's 'Severance,' her first film premiere (which Emily also attended), and how switching seats with Taylor Swift got her through the pandemic. Emily can't believe this interview is happening, Haley bonds with Sydney over barmaiding, and the board concludes the call.

So put on your tool belt, recite a cliche, and make su...
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Producer and writer Brandon Gardner joins Emily and Haley to discuss his Peacock series ‘In The Know,’ what lie killed his dreams to be an architect, and his creative partnership with Zach Woods. Emily knows what Brandon did 463 weeks ago, Haley praises Brandon’s beer pong skills, Brandon reveals the secret to improv, and we fail to understand Nicole Kidman's wigs. So put your pants back on, grab your snowboard, and schedule some s...
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Actor and dancer Colt Prattes joins Emily and Haley to discuss ‘Aladdin’ on Broadway, touring with P!nk, and his new Netflix movie, ‘The Merry Gentlemen.’ Emily admires Nick Jonas’s butt, Haley teaches menacing sign language, and Colt inspires a new segment that involves Emily’s dad. So enter the White Room, dance like Daniel Radcliffe, and sign a playbill with a cigarette while you listen to Chapter 17 of ‘How To Make It With Emil...
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Actress Brooke Lena Johnson joins Emily and Haley to discuss her role in Prime's 'Cruel Intentions,' how she became a part of a puppeteering disaster, and her career as a professional figure skater. Meanwhile, Haley can't figure out if Brooke is British, Emily suspects her to be a Disney princess, and Brooke helps us achieve what should be studied as the most seamless question segues in podcast history. So strangle your sister, joi...
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Stand-up comedy royalty Margaret Cho joins Emily and Haley to discuss her reason for starting her comedy career, her incredible film 'All That We Love,' and her upcoming residency at Joe's Pub in New York City. Emily cheers as Margaret discusses her favorite drag queens, Haley digs up an unbelievable incident from Margaret's past, and we are treated to insight into what Margaret looks forward to in the future. So skip the champagne...
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Actor and musician Sam Palladio sits down with Emily to discuss a Metallica t-shirt deciding his fate, what it's like being BFFs with Charles Esten, and his time on the hit series 'Nashville.' Emily gets Sam to re-route his UK tour to the US for her personal benefit, Sam contemplates a career switch to marine-themed children's music, and neither Emily nor Sam can remember where his character from Netflix's 'The Princess Switch' is ...
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Actor John Magaro joins the BFFs as they tackle the worst things about being an actor, the Swedish Viking Museum, and their love of Britt Lower. Emily tells the story of how she and John met, Haley and John fail to uncover the secret to parenting, and John declines Emily's invitation to be an honorary New Jersey-an. So put on your trench coat, attend the Tribeca Film Festival, and let’s talk about guilt. #YOLO
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'Enemy in Paris' podcast host Sam Kieffer joins the BFFs to discuss his fear of teenagers, confusing everyone at Comic Con, and what it's like to be so bad at an instrument that your instructor refuses to teach you. Emily reveals how to win David Hasselhoff's affection, Haley creates an incredible new phrase to live by, and everyone confesses their love for one another. So grab your sweat spray, buy a porcelain cat, and have Elijah...
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