Lamont Patterson _ World Movement Records _ Interview w Kermit ECMD Experience

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
All right, We're live tonight with the famous themont Patterson
from bel Air, Beverly Hills, Los Angeles, California, Baldwyn Hills,
all kinds of hills, every hill. I'm gonna read this

(00:24):
bio from the website and I'm gonna talk about a
lot of stuff because you involved a lot of businesses. Okay,
World Movement dot Com. Somebody can put that in the
chat that they want to. As World Movement and Enterprises,
we believe that music transcends boundaries and unite people from

(00:46):
all walks of life. Our mission is to cultivate an
environment where emergency talents can flourish and connect through universal
language of sound. With themont Patterson's rich legacy and boundless
passion for music as our guide, like, we amplify the
voices of artists who dare to inspire and innovate and
take risks by offering personalized guidance and create a support

(01:11):
We champion not just the artists, but the entire community
surrounding them, ensuring that every note play contributes to a
symphony of shared experiences and dreams realize. Join us as
we redefined the landscape of music and pay the way
for the future deal with the artists in collaboration. I
give you Lamont Patterson. How you doing, Lamont, I'm doing fantastic.

(01:39):
How about you today? Okay, great? You doing fantastic. I
heard you just got back from Italy. What was happening
over there?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Actually?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I went over to shore the show. It's my first opportunity,
the first chance I've had to actually co start and Horus,
and always wanted to do that, wanted to dress up
real crazy with the special effects, so that whole thing
was fantastic. I was able to start out and home,

(02:10):
end up in Italy. I'm sorry, end up in France.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
What was the film about?

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Actually, it's right now. The name is I don't even
know if I can say this, but right now it's
The Fallen But everybody in the film industry, you know,
is subjectly changed. It's about one of the angels got
kicked out of heaven, but he's not all the way
to Hell yet, and he's given the opportunity to help

(02:41):
redeem some souls, to help some other people go in
and hopefully in his mind that he may have the
opportunity to get back and good graces and get back
to where he came from. But that's not as much
as I can say about it right now, because they
had a sign of them.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
And the movie must be about Jason.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
And if it's talking about somebody almost going to hell, yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Well I'm sure Jason would say it. Sure is a
lot of my friends here.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Okay, okay. So what is the main thing that you
do in your life? Your main business? I know you
involved with so many businesses On the Instagram post, I
got twenty photos in there, of course, one of them
is Jason. At the very end, I got nineteen photos
that you sent me. So what's some of the other
businesses you want to tell us about them? From how

(03:38):
you want to tell us?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
I guess really answer your question simply for your listeners.
It's been my passion for some time to build a
full service entertainment company, starting out as artists myself and
going through the other little stopping blocks along the way,
being a manager, being a producer, starting a record label.

(04:05):
From then, you know, getting into the acting field, and
realizing that everything resolves around music. There's no film, no
TV shows whatsoever out there. They don't have some form
of music. There's no more silent movies anymore. Whether you
look at commercials or whatever, there's some type of music

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in that. All the actors eventually want to do music.
Everybody's doing music eventually want to do TV and films.
So it's always been a natural center synergy there. But
I wasn't one that got grandfather in the business. I
had to wear all the little hats individually. World Movement

(04:48):
published in for instance, we have the largest We have
a distribution deal with the largest distributed in the world,
which started like eighteen years ago. We had one the
first podcast, but nobody respecting podcasts. But look at it now.
You know, everybody in their grandmama got a podcast. So

(05:11):
everything I wanted to do, actually, you know, revolves around
entertainment on up till the day. You know. I'm fortunate
enough to still have my record company, the publishing company.
Now we're doing the television thing, have a television network.
We're offering channels with people. So I think that's the
last thing I mean for me to be building a

(05:32):
full service entertainment company. We have a full world round
hope I answers the question.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
You so smooth, calm and collective. You could talk a
little bit louder, sir. You sound like a quiet something.
I don't want to say what I'm thinking, but you
sound kind of quiet, so they might want to talk
a little bit louder so people can hear you because
I'm gonna happen well when they get these clips and
like like like when you record a phone, you gotta
put it all the way up to one hundred or

(06:02):
one hundred and ten the hit a person.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
But we don't want to have to do that.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
But yeah, you know, I can say you've been doing
for a long time now. On the music side, I
know you've always been doing your thing for a year.
Leno at one time was involved with a group called
New Birds. I wanna tellus a little bit about that experience.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Oh, that was one of my first experiences. You know,
I always wanted even through elementary in junior high school,
coming from a family that was involved in music. You know,
I played keyboards in the church, so you know, even
singing early on and been thrown in the band, learned
the saxophone. I did that for many years, playing a

(06:44):
horn until I found out the horn plays didn't get
the girls me. So I put down a horn and
grabbed a microphone. My cousin had a cousin in the family,
Bobby Sanders, who was managing this group called the Young Vince,
and I used to walk up like fourteen miles to
still see these guys, you know, with hers with their

(07:07):
cool suits on and you know, the girls watching them
do their choreography and stuff, you know, And I was,
you know, just like most youths, I was impressionable, so
I you know, I wanted to do that. So I
always sang in schools, through the little choirs, little bands
and stuff, and then finish in high school. My cousin
said he was going to help me with my music,

(07:29):
but he was busy with the Young Hearts. I got
into college and I met this girl, the Young Lady.
Her uncle was Harvey shue Qua. He had this group,
you know, the Dramatics, Young Hearts, cousins group Fide Effects,
and I ended up meeting the group. We ended up
living in the same apartment building. So that was my

(07:52):
first experience going out with a major group, which was
the New Bird writing songs and tour buses. Getting the
oppertunity to along with groups like you know, the Old Jays,
the Moments, the Four Tops, some of the old R
and B groups, but I grew up singing their songs,
and one day I looked up and I was out

(08:12):
on tour with these guys back It was a mind
blowing experience, and so I've always been involved in that time,
you know, forward, you know, getting knowledge from some of
the R and B greats, you know, you know, Dennis Edwards,
some of these guys are my personal friends, you know.
So everything they taught me how not to do, I
didn't do. So that's why I'm still here today.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I'm gonna have AI say this is a great interview
with Lamp. I need you to turn the volume up
on his voice, so talk.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Hey man, well listen, I'm talking loud, so I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Since I got since I got to hear an issue
of Jason is allowed to yield to me. Ask somebody else,
Jason went the sleep. You're talking so slow, I can't
even hear him.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
I can hear him when he leans forward, though, definitely better.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Okay, well, so how about now should I lean always forward?
But then my head I feel like I got a
big head, like.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, well you can't.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Unfortunately, can't operate on your forehead, so we have to
deal with that, all right. So Okay, so what did
you actually start first at Well, first of all, tell
us a little bit about growing up, your family life
and growing up and eventually how you led into the music.
But any of your family was into music. I think
you meant something about somebody in your family a second ago.
But tell us how you got into it from the

(09:37):
standpoint of a little kid growing up and being around
and also mentioned like I know I saw it before
in your bio when I did read it two years ago.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
I saw names in that like Quincy Jones and stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
So tell us about some of the famous people that
you had experiences with, whether they were mentors or gave
you some advice or whatever.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
I'm gonna go on which one, which one you want
me to go first?

Speaker 4 (09:58):
I want you to hear him all that and whatever
you want to do.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
First of all, man to come from a little small
town in country, so all you had to do was
play music and sit on the porch and watch people play.
Instruments and microphone are not my prophones what you call them?
Those mouth oregons harmonicas that's what they were, you know.
And like I mentioned earlier that you may or may
not have heard you know, we've all started out in church.

(10:25):
That's where we all started out. So my aunt played piano.
She played organ, which I didn't want to play at
the time because it wasn't very should I say, we
didn't have many great role models playing keyboards, you know,
we had Jerry Lee Lewis, and we had Little Richard

(10:46):
some of those guys. But I wanted to play us
something a little bit harder. So that's why I got
into the horns, you know. So that's how I got started. Man,
I've been always around music, you know, one of those
guys that came up in the music industry and said
that I have my own style, which I hate people

(11:06):
hearing people say that today because I think we're all
our product of our environment one way another. You know,
the music we heard going up, you know, we all
kind of absorbed that. So now what was the other question?
So Quincy Jones, I had the pleasure of managing this
other gentleman, Bill Summers from Summers. He he also worked

(11:31):
with me producing Big Boys first record. I guess you
guys know this Big Boy's neighborhood. But before it became
an air pressonality, he was actually a rapper. So we
did his first record. But anyway, Quincy, he was one
of the guys that was very instrumental.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
You know.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
He's the one that taught me how to keep my
ego in check, leave it outside, try to impart that
little bit of information on artists, like our ego is
like ethele of gas and gas thinking, yeah, give me
a little bit of that to get where you're doing.
But too much of that is not a good thing,

(12:11):
you know, it makes them do a bad investment. Nobody
really want to work with you. So that was an experience.
Through that whole thing, I got to meet guys like Sting,
which is another down to earth, humble guy that a
lot of people don't know about, but then a lot
of people do. So I've had the pleasure of working
with a lot of people over the years, you know

(12:32):
what I mean. So we can talk about all those
great things in the past that got me where I
am now, but I'm more excited about the things that
are going on today.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Women, as I say this, even though it might not
be in reference to today, but as you were growing
up and singing, who would you compare yourself to or you,
you know, as an individual in the singing thing, or
do you just say I'm more.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Like the group so and so as far as your
personal style.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Okay, but you got to keep in mind too that
we didn't have what do we have?

Speaker 4 (13:08):
We had?

Speaker 3 (13:08):
We had Jackie Wilson, uh we had in my era,
we had. You know, I'm looking at guys like Selby, Checker,
gene Chandler, let me see. And then, like I said,
all the all the R and B groups, the big
man groups, you know, that's when they got popular. You know,
the O J the dramatics, the moments, the shoot I

(13:32):
can go on and on, the whiskers, all those got popular,
you know what I mean. So everybody's going to sing
in the group before, you know, became David Ruffin in
the Tivitations or uh Dinah Ross and the Supremes.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
You know.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Back early on, I think in my early twenties, I
had an office in the Motown building, you know, and
I got to meet guys like GC Cameron from the Spinners.
I mean I picked up stuff from all those guys, man,
because I turned my head into a spunge. I was
a little faster than I should have. Man, But I
look back now, I mean I've lived a fairly good life.
And I've worked with a lot of dogs on people

(14:07):
in the industry, and so far I got a pretty
decent reputation.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Spigging to Jane Chandler, his son gives a movie film festival,
a film festival every year and in Orlando, Florida. I'm
friends with his son, and you know, a lot of
I mean, this is this is a very small industry.
I'm actually waiting on John Wilson to come here and
salute to.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Uh Brit.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Brit Burlow, his good friend from la as Well. Let
me just take a moment to mention some of the
people sitting here right this minute. Uh see just in
here at the moment, miss second. Of course, we're interviewing
Lamont Patterson from World Movement Records. We have Queen Karin
G from Washington, d C. That rhymes that must mean

(14:56):
I'm a rapper and people think I'm funny sometimes, so
maybe I'm a rap media like her son Cool TLC.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
But that's Queen Karen G from Washingt d C.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
She does a pet room every Sunday at five thirty
pm Eastern time on the Clubhouse app.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
And we have.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Felicia Drummond out and see Felicia coming in, So that's
Felicia D eight sixty four on all platforms. And of
course we have Jason Vox out of Los Angeles. We'd
interviewed him a while ago on a Tuesday. You know,
he's a cool guy. Sometime next we have artist bb
Y who is a singer songwriter out of North Carolina

(15:39):
and Atlanta and Los Angeles, and she had a song
on Digit Radio track of those number one for four weeks,
the most we've had by any artist that we deal
with so far. The only other record that was number
one longer was Warren g and Ty Dollar Sign Record
four or five years ago.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Actually. Next we have.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Nick year Hot Entertainment out of Chicago with the Noise
Darrell p They are a management company, recording company, and
the publishing company out Give Me Chicago. Then we have
DJ Punch DJ Punch three one seven on all platforms.
He does mixing all like Monday's every single Monday at
nine o'clock PM Eastern, eight o'clock Central, and six o'clock

(16:26):
on the West Coast every Monday, never never counsel never
postponed for five straight years. So he must be related
to me. I've been doing this for eleven straight years. No,
actually fourteen was started in twenty eleven. This is the
fourteenth year of doing the e CMD thing and not
postponing the counseling as well, so punch catching on. And

(16:47):
then we have a Don s ZN, which which it
took me a while to know that the SZN is
still for Don season.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
So I guess he puts season.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
On his R and B music as R and B
singer songwriter out of Charlotte, North Carolina. Next we have Lorezi,
who is a afrobeast artist and he's from Lagos, Nigeria
and now in Chicago. And his picture is a picture
of his plaque that his records number one for three

(17:17):
weeks on digit Radio tracker. And he's also out of
Chicago now and artists and and Lorezi work and done
work with make you how entertained? Out of Chicago. Next,
well we'll gamble the plug of Queen Karen got a
special name for him, you know, something similar.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
I guess the Ppe.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
But he's one of the main guys on every Thursday
that's on the same link tree with us. Heystro down Thursday.
Will is a great guy, good to know, good to
work with. So you definitely want to check him out,
follow him on Instagram. He got his Instagram on his
profile here. Anybody can put their Instagram or the information
in the chat. That's the first thing Ndia punched. Does
he put his email in there? The first thing before

(17:58):
you even open your mouth the wheel. Then we have
Brent Bartlow, who is, like I said, John Wilson's friend
out of California. Hopefully John will be jumping on here soon.
So he just jumped on see that. See uh, Brent
must have called him or something.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
So.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
And then we have Michael J.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Carehoume from the Kinsman Dazz Band, multi platinum Grammy Award
winner Singer Songwriter producer also made history by charging six
different genres of music, including the song with Felicia DA
six y four, who's a rapper out of South Greenville,
South Carolina? And where did John go? Is my mind

(18:45):
playing tricks from men? Saw John come in here? We
wait they come back? Before before introducing Brent went hall
happened to John? Yeah, well maybe he had to come
up fix us like or something. Looked like you were
trying to talk or something. But anyway, back to Lamont

(19:06):
for a minute. Yeah, but he mentioned a lot of
big names, you know, of course, I mean the Quincy
Jones stick out him among most. And it's funny that
I forgot to mention this earlier. You know, I mentioned
know that you at one point was was with the

(19:29):
group and when I talked to Big Hutch Cole, one
of you seven from Above the Law, the first group
name he mentioned was that group name. First name he
mentioned because he has a brand new mixtape out I'm
about to send out the people later on after the
show ends. He has a brand new mixtape. That's where

(19:50):
he where he's rapping over to music. But he's not
speeding up, he's not changing it. He's just simply rapping
on existing music from people like New Birth. That's the
one he said, you know the That's the first thing
he mentioned that was really a surprise. He mentioned the
song title. I forgot which one. But anyway, so back
to your acting. How long have you been acting?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I think about eighteen years now, yeah, about eighteen years?

Speaker 4 (20:17):
And about how many films the TV shows have you
been there so far? Can you count them?

Speaker 3 (20:24):
No? I actually actually I can't, And I was thinking
about that before I came on came on today. I
was trying to think.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Well, I'm gonna do like I do on these shows.
Is it more than two?

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Well, well, well, definitely more than two.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
I mean, is it less than a hundred?

Speaker 3 (20:49):
No, it's more than an Oh my god, yeah, it's
more than a hundred. You know, some of them I'm
really not all that excited about. You know, I was
thinking about the Jeffrey Dahmer.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Oh, you tell us a little bit about that, because
you know Jeffrey Dominds from Ohio.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Well, I played the nosy Neighbor and that, and I
really didn't know exactly what movie it was gonna be
when I got booked on that. I got booked on
that movie.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
M hmm.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Once I got there, you know, I went through her
makeup and all that stuff, and then I started listening
to people, and then I knew of the story. But
for some reason, it just slipped me. I didn't know
that was what it was that day.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Well, you definitely fit to be. They picked you perfect
to be the nosy neighbor. Why you say that, that's
I'm the same because I'm because I'm a rap meeting
like Queen Karon's son.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
That's why.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
All right, then, well I'm gonna be nice though, I'm
gonna be kind because but.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Okay, so as an know the neighbor, I mean, I
haven't seen the movie yet, but I will go watch
it now that you mentioned that, is that the one
that's on.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Which one is?

Speaker 1 (22:07):
What's that one called Netflix? And so okay, that's all
they number one that's on Netflix.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
I've seen.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
I've seen that before. I'm gonna go watch it. And
what at what minute? About what minute of the movie?

Speaker 4 (22:20):
You come on?

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Case I don't want to watch the whole movie, I
can just go to whatever or do you pop up
several times?

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Being knowed to see who who? He got in there
eating or something?

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Do you know? I just think I remember all that crap? Man?
I remember, dude. I had some girl run up to me,
not even long ago, man with her cell phone talking
about is that you? Is that you? A lot of
times when you film stuff, we don't never know when
it's gonna be released. I have to go through editing.
You know, we'd be happy if we make it past

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the setting for this girl came up to me and says,
it's you? Is it you? I didn't know what the
hell she was talking about, but she was talking about
the Colin Ferrell Ship Serious College that song. I forgot.
I even feel that, dude, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
So but I.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Don't know when things come out till somebody see him
or somebody tell me, because that's the information that you know,
was really not given to that.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Well, I definitely understand that because I just had that
experience myself. There's a documentary out about hip.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Hop and Cleveland, right, so I'm in the documentary, got
like four four shows so far, and I made a
comment about a guy was manager. Matter of fact, his
name is U d J Johnny Oh with the Nerve DJs,
and he was called Grand Wizzard Johnny at the time,
back in the late eighties. And I made a and
I forgot I even said this. This was like five

(23:53):
years ago I did interview, but they're just now releasing
the documentary. And I made a comment about he actually
did a a remix to Criminal Minded by booking our
productions that the Soul of Mellion copies and we never
got paid. I forgot I even said that, So I
definitely understand what you're saying, you know, Yeah, I definitely
understand what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
So so from what you do remember.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Tell us some things that you remember, some interesting stuff
about some movies, some things that what do you think
is your favorite part to play? For example, like I
always wanted to be I always told friends that you
know that was doing movies. You know, if you want
to include me, I can just play the drunk guy
at the bus stop. You know, I don't need no
big part. But what was your some of your favorite
roles that you played or an image that you actually liked.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
M Let me see, somebody asked me how long I've
been acting? To tell them something that was so real
the kind of went on there here. I've been pretty
much acting ever since I've been a black one, been
acting all my life. So to do something in front

(25:01):
of us, well, I don't know. To answer your question,
I think it was probably like maybe.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
Swatt or.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Maybe Swat. I kind of like really liked that because
I kind of could relate when I thought about the
music industry, you know, I started thinking about a lot
of you know, rappers and you know, the street culture.
I kind of think it was maybe some squat. And
then again, I enjoyed working on Snowfall, which was kind

(25:32):
of like the same thing. It was kind of urban,
should I say, And as it turned out, John Singleton
ended up being a neighbor. He actually lived around the
corner from so it passed away. God bless her soul.
But I don't know. I mean, I've had a lot
of experiences because I didn't really start out to even
be an actor. I ended up knowing that I did

(25:56):
want to eventually produce my own content. I want to
learn a little bit more about the film industry, just
like I went through the recording the music industry. It
was all about on the job training when I started out.
I wanted to know how the film industry work, how
the cameras work, how the sound men work, what the

(26:16):
first a D second ad. I want to know what
their jobs were. I mean, it's just like, you know,
just be having a recording studio. You know, you can
go to school and you can learn certain things, but
you can't learn like you're actually sitting behind a board
and watching somebody else, you know. So the whole acting
thing for me was on the job training. It's something

(26:37):
that I never really wanted to do to be just
an actor, but I wanted to be able to be
good at whatever I did. I wanted to be good
at it. I want to be proficient at it.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
You know.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Now, I think I know enough people in the film
and TV industry. I know the equipment, so I know,
you know, we'll be able to do our movie. To
be able to do our own film, we've already started.
So it's not really one thing. Hermit is a combination
of everything, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Okay, I think I said John Wilson here, now, how
you doing, John, mister Wilson, if you're nasty?

Speaker 4 (27:26):
I was trying trying to knew how you doing? Okay?

Speaker 7 (27:30):
All right?

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, I don't know if you ever. I don't know
if you had met Lamont yet. Remember I was telling
you I wanted you guys to meet because he's out
there in Los Angeles too. He just got back from
Italy doing a movie. We had talked about that earlier
and he was in He was also a part of
the group New Birth at one point in his career too.

Speaker 7 (27:47):
I know, man, we did too many shows, you mean,
and Leslie and and God Rest in peace, Melvin Melvin, right,
we did that. I think we first two together was
y'all us the old Jason and Dramatics. We swept across
the country. I think that was in seventy five. We
sold him out. Yeah, he look good, brother, he looked good.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Man.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
I'm still trying to hang in here, man, Just like
you mentioned a lot of the old guys. Man, they're
not with us, man, and I think about them all
the time. Especially you remember Bird James Bacon. Yeah, oh, man,
James was my was my mentor, man, you know, I
mean I learned so much from that cat.

Speaker 7 (28:34):
Yeah. We just go over his houses and shoot the
ball a little bit, you know.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Louisville, Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Right, yeah, yeah, but he's out here.

Speaker 7 (28:44):
When he passed though.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Exactly, he was out here, and I still, well, I
don't know. I still talk to Shelley.

Speaker 7 (28:53):
Oh how's he doing?

Speaker 3 (28:54):
No, Shelley the girl. I mean what he was saying
when he passed away, all right, right, right, right, right right,
keyboard player.

Speaker 7 (29:02):
Yeah, I went to sho to Shelley Berry. Yeah, right, exactly.

Speaker 8 (29:06):
How you gentlemen, how you gentlemen doing all? Amon and Johns?
Mike Calhoun, Hey, Mike, how you doing?

Speaker 9 (29:12):
Man?

Speaker 8 (29:13):
I'm doing great? Man. I knew Alan Fry, I knew
Alan Fry. Yeah, hey, man, we're friends on Facebook. Man,
big time.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, I know, I know, I've been I've been seeing
it all.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (29:27):
I like the d MS and I send you something,
you send me something, the great thing. And John's been
my friend forever, man, one of my mentors.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Hey man, I try to be a little bit different
from other people. You know, a lot of times we
say we're gonna support each other and do this and
that in the time. Oh man, yeah, you actually don't happen.
So I go out of my way to not be
like some of the other people.

Speaker 8 (29:50):
Oh yeah, man, I'm humble, but that I love that.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
That's great, that's good of you. Yeah, we're.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Well, let me just put it this way. Well, I
also found out it's not who you know, it's how
you know who you know, right, and if they need you. Yeah,
well that goes almost to the use to the misuse category.
You know what I'm saying. I don't care about people
using me till they get better at my crist But

(30:21):
I have a problem with the misused department, right right.
I think that that's kermit.

Speaker 7 (30:28):
I think can speak now now, I think what's so
beautiful here? Again? All of us have been friends, well
over with fifty almost fifty years now all a month,
you know what I mean, you know, and you know
to see that, you know you're you're still doing good
and looking good. And you know, Mike is you know,
we we're still here, brother, We're looking straight at each other,

(30:50):
not down at each other. You know what I'm saying,
right right, But I'm really proud of I've been seeing
on TV mine and hey, man, what.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Did they have that event every year in California where
y'all meet all all the people meet in the summer
or something?

Speaker 9 (31:09):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (31:10):
Past Shields has the legends and icons a picnic, you know,
every year and uh in fact, I think Leslie and
Melvin came one year. What was Melbourn's wife's name, she
was manager? I can't remember, but uh, I think that
they had the last one last year because I hate
to say it's it's standing out, you know. So you

(31:34):
know so, But again, Lemon is great seeing your brother
and you just evokeing a lot of great memories we
had on the road together.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
You know.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Well you know, like I said, some of them are
still still here man. Like I was saying early on
in the interview, a lot of things that some of
my mentors told me not to do. They kept they
kept doing it. You know, I remember, I know you
remember Willie Ford Dramatic. He was one of them. He was,
he was, he was one of the main one. He's

(32:06):
one of the main ones that said the manchic can't
smoke all the smoke, you can't drink all the drink.
You know, you can't sleep with all the women. This
business will kill you, right. I heard that, and I
was afraid. Actually I was afraid really because I was
just afraid because I watched them. You know, Dennis A

(32:28):
was a really good friend of mine too, and I
watched them, you know, I watched Ron Banks, you know,
I watched these guys. You know, tonight you in this town,
Next night, you in another town. H next day, you
somewhere else. The day after that, you somewhere else. And
I watched that. I'm like, well, when do these guys rest,
When do they when do they eat? I mean, when

(32:49):
do they exercise? Because you're going from rehearsal to a show,
to a sound check to the room and then that's
when the alcohol and the substance get involved. So I
watched all of that.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
I think, I think you know, when you and I
started on we touring together, which was seventy five. I
think we pulled eighty dates that year. We started in
Philly and we want, you know, across And that's one
thing that you were just saying.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Man.

Speaker 7 (33:16):
You know, you and I never we saw that close
up right right, and you know, and I'm glad that
you didn't do it or Mike or me to stay
away from it, because you know, it was there for
the asking, like you said, you know, not you know,
for free, you know exactly. You know, we actually you know,
we saw some of the other brothers that was touring

(33:36):
with us, you know, falling by the wayside behind that.
So what you're saying, man, is word man, because I
haven't done it till this day, you know, and we're
still They.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Used to talk.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
They used to come in with the substance by the
truckload just to be in your company here, just to
come to your room.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
Man.

Speaker 8 (33:54):
They'd be like yeah, you know you'd be like, oh no, no,
oh yeah. So they can brag about it.

Speaker 7 (34:02):
Well one way, but one I ain't gonna say that
the name of the group whe was on tour and
out we couldn't find our keyboard player. And you know,
the the limousine was down to take us over to
the gig, and the rod managers say, hey, man, where's
god Man. I said, I don't know where God bad Man.
He ain't down downstairs. He said, no, we want to
look and look for him.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
And he was with some of it.

Speaker 7 (34:21):
I tell you all blind who it was. And they
had a salad bowl full of the snow, two or
three bricks there, you know, and the cigarettes roll up
in their head. I said, man, you know right, yeahold
I'll tell you who that was later. But but and
when we got back to Cleve. Man we got back

(34:42):
to Cleveland, said man, we can't. We can't do this
no more.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Man, you know, yeah, I'm looking. I'm looking for my
friend slide Stone. Anybody saying lately.

Speaker 8 (34:52):
He's he's around. He said, he's living their life, his family.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Hey, I know, he told me I was. I had
asked him to I redo sing a separate song because
I really liked that track. I really liked that song.
And he told me I could once he got his
business straight with the labels. I know that's been straight.

(35:17):
But I ain't been as to catch up with him
since you know, you know, you know, he.

Speaker 7 (35:20):
Can still redoing Lama, you know, just because it's not
a master used to go ahead and redoing. Just give
him the uh you know, the credits. Whoever go to
just go ahead and do it. Yeah, yeah, box, Yeah,
I'm gonna put put my number in there to you lamar,
right quick, look at each.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Other, okay, yeah, yeah, we'll do that. You know, yeah,
I didn't think about that, you know, it's just that,
you know, I had talked to him personally and he
agreed personally because he and I got some years years
back relationship to right. And when I talked to him,
I gave him a bill of champagne mm hmm from

(35:58):
from Poo Poo Man from George Clinton's thing.

Speaker 8 (36:02):
Yeah, yeah, no telling who who got that publisher on
that song?

Speaker 6 (36:07):
By not.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Well, I know the big fight, the big fight was
with Sony. I know you'll remember that. But I know, yeah,
who got now? You're right, right, right? Yeah? Who got
it now?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Said yeah, But I said that to say, you know,
back when it was a different time and you know,
all that substance abuse was very very very new to
everybody and it hadn't got into you know, epidemic proportions.
Of course it is now, yeah, it is. Man, It's
totally a blessing that we were able to maneuver through

(36:46):
all of that and come out with some level of sanity, glory.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Even abuse to people don't notice. But I had a
substance abuse. It was watermelon, James.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
But for some same reason I could believe that, I
could believe the hell out of that.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
I was the thick of the watermelon. Yeah, I guess you.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Man.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Hey, well we're talking about movie.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I want John to share one thing, John, what's the
in the movie that in the Jackson's movie. What was
the one scene that that Joe told me that was
definitely not accurate? I want you to speak on a
little bit tonight since we talked, since the Mott just
got back from Italy doing the movie.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
I want to make a little comment about the movie,
the Jackson's Movie.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
So what was that thing that did Joe said was
not accurate in the movie that we talk about all
the time.

Speaker 7 (37:42):
I Uh, Well, one was the you know when you know,
when he was coming out of the gig and they
were robbing the the truck they were taking instruments out
of the truck and you know, and it showed on
there that you know, like one of two punches and
Joe went down. But Joe said he got He told

(38:05):
me he got what pretty bad. He really got junk
because you know, Joe was originally prize fighter, so I
know he can handle itself. But he said, man, it
was just too many. So he you know, he really
got beat up pretty pretty bad. But it was his boys.
He was protecting his boys, you know. And so but again,
you know, you know Leamont and Mike and I, you know,

(38:25):
we we seen it all on the road, that type
of stuff, you know, And yes, sir, you know, and
like I said, you know, we're glad that what we
seen at a young age. You know, we're all in
our twenties, you know, and first hitting out there and
what we saw on the road.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
You know, we grew up quick survivors.

Speaker 7 (38:46):
You know, and ext you know was was you know,
strong enough and mad enough, said I'm not going to
deal with.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
This, right right, Belly and the beast, Yeah, man, right,
when you use the term of John growing up quick,
like on the documentary or something earlier, they were there
was a group talking about uh they had you know,
went somewhere which I was actually at this concert and
it was in Toledo, but I think L Coup.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Is one of the headliners.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Anyway, the the guy that doing the concert allegedly, you know,
he claimed that the box office got robbed.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
He couldn't pay nobody. And the group had already you know,
like bought you know, like you know.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Was buying more out this and more instruments and stuff
for the next show to you know, to make the
show better.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
But they was like broke and had to wait for
somebody to wear them some money.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
If y'all have a experiensive thing about not getting paid,
like in a disrespectful manner, like hey, I just don't
have the money, or I'm not going to give you
guys no money, or taking the.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Money he wanted, let me let me ask let me
ask you that one. Right, But I'm sure I'm sure
most most most groups doing that era they ran into
some situation. I know, I know, I know for me,
I I know for me, we all kind of got
caught up and buying big houses and living in living
in Hollywood Hills. You know, my backyard used to look overlooked,

(40:09):
you know, the well the Hannah Barbara studios, you know,
off the floor after one on one freeway. We all
had that. But there was times, man, you could be
out on the road and you get get hooked up
with some shisty business people. You know, said well, you
need a businessman, you need a business manager. But they
didn't tell you that. Some of the business managers of

(40:31):
Brooks they didn't tell you that either. So you know,
there was there was times that we got caught up
and we got behind on our taxes. And it wasn't
because we weren't trying to pay a taxi and pay
out taxes. We just depending on our business manager to
pay taxes. So it's times when you end up on
the road doing a gig and go to get paid
and you ain't getting paid because the tax man got
your money.

Speaker 6 (40:52):
Yeah, we had a.

Speaker 8 (40:55):
Good manager, Sonny Jones. You remember Sonny Jones.

Speaker 7 (41:01):
I remember Sonny absolutely remember Sonny.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (41:04):
He taught us to get paid to play, don't play
to get paid, and we get half of it up front,
but before we laid our hands on any instrument or
got on the stage, we get the rest of the money.
So we got paid to play, not play to get paid.

Speaker 7 (41:25):
Well, my story of that right quick. When we first
signed with Paramount and again they only had two R
and B acts. They had us and the point of Sisters.
We struck out on tour with the Washing Hut Thursday
realm bands, right. So we had told about maybe thirty
or forty dates, and we were sometimes somewhere down in Georgia,
and again, you know the our manager who he also

(41:50):
at the time managed us, Sam and Dave and Johnny Taylor, right,
and we looked at each other and said, man, you
know this is we're looking at the houses, were packing
these houses. This money ain't right. So we were soon
down in Georgia and and wicked Michael Bell said, you know,

(42:12):
let's look at in the limousine, you know, and started
looking at limousine and we opened up the trunk. Up
under the tire was his big cash box and there
was all that money that wasn't being counted for. So click,
he took it and we took it to our room.
He says, We said, now listen, he said, if this

(42:35):
is right, he's gonna come out and he's gonna start
yelling and screaming. But if he don't say nothing, he's
been taking money. He came out, he didn't say a word,
and I know look. And when we got back to Cleveland, man,
we said, kirk.

Speaker 8 (42:51):
Out you know yeah crook crook, yeah yeah, sister yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
You go ahead, bro, I was disagreeing, man, with all
all those we uh, I mean, look at that now
in hindsight, I mean, we have to talk it up,
the pair and our dudes.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
That's what it was.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
I mean, we we didn't we didn't know. We didn't know.
We're just out there a lot of times, we're just
going by what our told us. Yeah, I found it
well until we found out different, you know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (43:22):
Yeah, our biggest thing was finding out that it was
sometimes within the group, within the structure of the group,
like with Harold Melvin.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
You know.

Speaker 8 (43:32):
On Unsung Teddy gives a story of needing some pampers
and he goes to the house and peaks through the
peak hole of Harold Melvin after after asking him for
some money, twenty dollars, and he said, he lift up
the mattress and with none but money, just stacks of
fifties and he thirst in there and found a twenty
and gave it, and he say he was out of

(43:53):
the group the next week. I mean, there's a documented
on on unsung and then it happened like that with
us a few times. I'm not gonna mention any name,
but sometimes it's from within that's the problem.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Yeah, it's all kind of especially in our industry, man,
it's all kind of it's all kind of jealousies, uh,
ego issues, right, and you be trying to figure out,
you know, where is that ship that he's coming from?
I mean, you know what I mean. Uh, your wife

(44:28):
said I will good it in a suit, So now
I'm a threat, you know what I mean? I mean,
where's all this ship coming from? You know? Right?

Speaker 7 (44:35):
Right?

Speaker 3 (44:36):
And I still don't understand it, except for you know,
there's some men. I guess at the end of the day,
it don't matter how old you are. They just got
more their mama and them than they do their daddy.
Right right, You've got your week tendencies. What can I say?

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Yeah, speaking about problems on the road, though, Michael calhouna
has kind of a story because he had an issue
because the leader of his group wanted to put his
names on songs that Michael was writing, and they end
up falling out about it because Michael didn't, you know,
didn't want nobody robbing him of his credit and stuff.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
So that's something else that's kind of like your money
to go.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
And I know another young man that that co wrote
a song with LeVert that the same thing happened to them.
The song was supposed to be a third or third
and third him ten percent, said over giving them a
third and said that, and allegedly the lead singer said,
well they they come to see me anyway more. Look
like the temptations move anybody want to see you, ods
they don't want to see me.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
They come in to hear my voice? Or why am
I giving you more than ten percent? Anyway?

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Even after we read the third But go ahead, Michael,
share a little bit about what happened to you.

Speaker 8 (45:47):
Oh no, you said it all right there, brother, I
don't want.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
You if mine had any experience like that, you were
John had that kind of experience where somebody trying to
take your it'll take something from you.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Well, well mine was a little different because when you're
on a tour of us and people just riding up
down the highway across country, somebody come up with a
jam and everybody start throwing the lyric here and there,
and shit comes up and then put together a song.
I mean who actually wrote the song? The whole group
wrote the song, right, what what I what I found
out was the issue when I got on the business

(46:25):
side of the record label. They came up with this
thing called work for hire. Right when you pay somebody
that's on your payroll, your writing staff or whatever. You know,
they come up with a song, but you actually get
to regis that song as your song, that you wrote it?
But as a as a musician and a songwriter. Man,

(46:47):
even though you know that's the business and you know
that's how it goes, it just don't feel good because
you know, you actually didn't pennant yourself. You caused it
to be you caused it to be written, but yeah,
personally didn't write it.

Speaker 8 (47:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, you know you just got.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
I mean you're saying as a as a songwriters, yeah yeah, yeah,
you feel like you stealing or you're not giving this
person credit. But what I started doing, I started giving
them credit anyway, you know what I mean, because it
just didn't feel good with them, even though I know
the legalities and oh I.

Speaker 8 (47:23):
Got you, I got you. You're living up for the
intellectual propertyxact. Yeah, who actually came up with the idea.
I got you, man, that's that's a good You're a
good man.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Back in two thousand and eight, I was at a
conference in Tallahausee, Florida where TJ's DJs was giving a
lot of court DJs and different DJs was down there
and they and they spoke on a panel. Matter of fact,
one of the guys, baby Faced Brother I think, was
down there or somebody from this group. Anyway, they discussed
the fact that when you're recording that you should have

(47:54):
nobody in the studio but yourself because you can have
your homeboy in there hanging around, and even if you
all smokers or whatever, and he might just say a word,
you know, he might just say telephone, and then you
make a song, you know, telephone. Man, Wait a minute,
I co wrote that I said the word telephone. Well,
I was drunk sitting behind you.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
Passed out.

Speaker 8 (48:16):
It happens all the time.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
They always say, you know, don't even take anybody, you know,
when you go to record, hand of your business.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Go to record, do your thing. Don't be bringing the
whole community.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Matter of fact, I saw a I saw a clip
on YouTube recently where people was asking a snoop Dogg
a question because Warren G was saying was being interviewed,
I think was on the Breakfast Club, and he was
just saying that basically you know that that that you know,
I guess, you know, he introduced Snoop to doctor Dre

(48:46):
and this seemed like he just.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Out the picture, so to speak. He may have come.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
He said, I don't even want to get paid. I
just want to you know, come around, hang around or
whatever he said. And so they asked him did he
have a ticket to the to the super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (48:59):
You know?

Speaker 1 (48:59):
He said, yeah, you know, Snoop gave me a ticket,
but I didn't even get backstage, you know, to the
at the super Bowl. And so then somebody so naturally,
you know, like there's you know, people sometimes get messy,
you know. So they turn around and asked Snoop about it.
They say, yeah, you know, we heard the Warren G. Whatever,
you know, didn't get a chance of this is getting

(49:21):
a chance to that. So Snoop has some excellent answers,
just like he got the excellent answer for why he performed,
you know, doing the around the time of the inauguration.
He has some of the best answers out here for
stuff he said. He gave an example. He asked the host,
he say, do you bring anybody to work? They said,
and the lady said no, they answer, go you bring

(49:41):
them back to work. He said, I bring God to work.
He said, well, that's what I mean. He says. So
when I'm getting ready to go to work, going to
the studio, and am I supposed to say, Okay, guys,
I'm going to work. You know, come on, let's go.
You know, you know, you know, you just you go
to work and do your work. So that was an
excellent answer, but you know, we kind of know, you
know that it could have won a different away.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
I'm gonna just put it that way. Well, what happened
to me?

Speaker 7 (50:03):
What happened to me? I was when I was with
Joe and I was writing a song for one of
the Jackson's. I went over a friend of mine and
the song. There was a guy sitting in the chair
and he was sitting there drinking some wine. So me
and the guy finished the song. So I went back
up to the office. And so the next day the
guy that was sitting there drinking some wine, he said,

(50:25):
what's something he said, what are you gonna do about
about me?

Speaker 3 (50:27):
On the song.

Speaker 7 (50:28):
He said, what what you're talking about? He said, well,
I was in sparation. I said, we called him stretch.
I said, Stretch, you just sitting over there. You ain't
said the word. You're drinking that wine. Man, he was
sitting and you ain't said nothing.

Speaker 9 (50:39):
Man.

Speaker 7 (50:40):
So it kind of kind of heated, and mister Jackson
walked into the to my office. He said, man, look,
I'm gonna put it on it.

Speaker 8 (50:48):
You gotta go, you gotta This is what Joe told me, he.

Speaker 7 (50:51):
Said, put his name on the copy right and just
don't release, don't put the song out.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (50:59):
And that's what I did.

Speaker 7 (50:59):
I put his name on the car right and never
reported the song.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah, that's happened before.

Speaker 8 (51:04):
That's happened to me more than one.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
But Joe ain't playing. Put his name on the song
and we ain't gonna put it out.

Speaker 8 (51:15):
Yeah, he he covered his ass. Yeah either way.

Speaker 6 (51:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (51:21):
You think you think you slicked, you got out slick.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
But I want to discuss some of these photos you
sent me, you know, one of the time. Of course,
the one I use is a nice picture you and
a yellow and black jacket, you know, kind of reminding
my fraternity black and Gold Alpha Fa Alpha. But anyway,
that's a nice The next one that says you can
remember that saw back next it.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Was it was only fifty It was only fifty two
years ago. Only years ago. Okay, So one of them
is a picture of it. Just word Moving and Enterprise.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Everyone tell us a little bit about what that umbrella
or whatever it's about as I go through the other
ones right quick?

Speaker 3 (52:07):
The World Enterprise and uh it uh should I say
incorporates all my children? Uh, it's World Movement Records. It's
World Movement Publisher. Uh, that's my two podcasts, I Am
Envy and Time Player Play. It inculporates all my children.

(52:29):
So that's basically World World Moving. In the television networks,
uh my six TV channels on the roll co on Amazon,
they're all in the World Movement Enterprise.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Yea, I'm gonna go through all the logos. You don
say anything about the TV network though, but I'm gonna
let me just go through each pitch of the time.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
The next thing is World Moving Records.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
I know you got one of your artists on here,
Jason Vox, So you want to tell us a little
bit about is Jason your only artist.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
You have other artists on there right now.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
We're primarily working with Jay, which is a super super
super super super talented guy. He's almost more talented than
I am. And then and then we have Christine Renee,
an RB vocalist, young female vocalist, is dynamite. You're gonna

(53:18):
be here in the whole lives from her the next
few days. A matter of fact, her singles out right
now on all platforms called Crazy Love and video is
dynamic as well. So that's that's our main focus right now.
And I think that's enough with everything else that we.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Have going on.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
How long how long have you had a label?

Speaker 3 (53:39):
This?

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Nineteen ninety ninety nine, Okay, okay, yeah, I started mining well,
I started. I have my agreement in eighty two, I did.
I released my first record in eighty six. It was
a remake of Afraid the Masqueraders over by David Porter.
That was the first song, the first record.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
I really.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Was an artist named Leland and he now lives in
South Carolina somewhere, but it was he did a song.
He did that song, Afraid the Master ate it over
by David Porter remade. That was the first thing. Okay,
The next thing I'll see is a World Woman Publishing.
That's the next fellow you sent.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Me World Mover Publishing. Actually we started that and Tana
Player played the podcast. At the same time we released
the book, we published a book by this author named
Pretty Tony. It was called Player stepid Game, So Player

(54:40):
Stepie Gamer was basically a self help book for men
that talks about the dudes and don'ts and all of
the dumb stuff we do in regards to you know, females,
things we do and things that we shouldn't do. Basically,
it was a self help book for men. And what
we did with that book we ended up taking chapters

(55:01):
out of that book and using chapters of that book
for episodes or shows on the podcast. So that's how
I actually started the podcast. I take an episode should
I say, chapters out of the book and turned that
into a segment podcasts. So it helped me get a
publishing deal the book, and it helped me get more

(55:23):
into the radio talk show hosts, which I never did before,
or a movement publish and since then, you know, we
published multiple books for people. The most recent was the
waw to doomas story a young man had been traffic
since he was like fifteen years old. True story.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
I mentioned this. You mentioned.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Quincy Jones and famous people like that earlier speaking of
hip hop, though you had any experience with any hip
hop related people, any hip hop labels or owners of label.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
But how we ran into some of the other people
from Dump the other day. But I guess, uh hip hop. Well,
you know, I don't know if you remember, but we
had ghetto hippie. We had that record called Riding Load
that was platinum for us.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
Uh I remember that now that you said that, I
do remember that name.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Yeah, that's taking us back to uh Disney, which was
actually Hollywood Records at the time, you know. Uh so yeah,
So I don't mean you gotta be jumping around going
back and forth. Man, I'm trying to remember what's going
on today.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
Kermit, Well I'm gonna get to today.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
You ever had any kind of communication with anybody from
Death Row Records by chance?

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (56:47):
Stop itur it Okay, I'm gonna stop it.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Okay, you already know one of my one of my
associate HARRYO. I know that's what you want to stop it.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
Okay. Next thing I have is says World Movement Media
tell us what role that part, well.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
World Movement Media technically, and it's similar to World Movement Enterprise,
but it undertakes, like I said, some of the same
things the TV shows of the radio shows. Basically we
channel a lot of that through World Movement Media. You know.

(57:29):
It goes back to what my whole dream was when
come in a full service company, come to World Movement.
We got everything for you, from the publishing, from the
record side, from the TV side, from the music video channel.
Whatever it is that you want to do trying to do.
We got people in place to make that happen.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Because the next photo you discussed already was a picture
of the I guess the book Playology Pleology by Pretty
Tony at the next picture I'll.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
See you, yeah, Playology play a step your game up?
Who is she and what is she to you? Was
all in that same trilogy.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Now here goes something very interesting, something called Cooking with
My Homies coming soon. Tell us a little bit about
Cooking with My Homies.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Cooking with My Homies is a celebrity based cooking show
that that we have on our table right now that
we're going to be showing really pretty soon. What it
is is sort of like the Narsenio Hall slash cooking
show where we invite artists they'd like to cook. And
I'm sure your other guests online they can relate to this.

(58:41):
When you out on the road. We got tired of hamburgers,
the fast food, you know, so we'll try to, you know,
win place that had a stove, and most of us
want to cook something if it wasn't nothing but pushettie, spaghetti,
porking beans and hot dogs. You know, you get tired
of a fast foot. So Cooking with My Home is

(59:02):
a celebrity based cooking show where we have people come in,
they talk about their products, they get to perform whatever
big song they're known for, and then we would transit
into the kitchen and they get to prepare whatever meal
you know, their mama made or whatever meal that they know.

Speaker 9 (59:22):
You know.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Some other friends, you know, Mary Jackson, Bobby Lyle unfortunately
proop a good and soon to pass away, but he
had already agreed to do the show. Vince Neil from
the Motley Crew who agreed to do the show. And
we're still looking to do the show, and we'll be

(59:45):
able to do it pretty soon because I'm in a
better situation now. Like I said, we have our on camera,
we have our own TV network. I don't have to
go out and ask people to help me do anything.
Now we could just film everything ourselves. But the premise
of the show is to have people, well, you know,
I want to do all genres. You know, I want
to do R and B, I want to do you know,

(01:00:05):
hip hop, I want to do jazz. And once I
get the music people and get the show locked in,
then I'm gonna opened up the sports figures that know
how to cook. I want. I want people like Patty
Labell that come on with her pies and I hate
with that. George Foreman Senior passed away because we had
contacted him as well about his meets, because he has

(01:00:26):
a meeting. But yeah, put them with my homies. It's
gonna it's gonna it's gonna be the bomb. It's gonna
open a lot of opportunities for people that can come
on that that like to cook. You know, some artists
just like to cook in the mine.

Speaker 7 (01:00:42):
Yes, I'm gonna tell you. I can tell you who
can burn. And right now, if he was here, he
might be here. And he said, John, hey man, I'm
getting ready to fly her up. I say, then that's role.
That's Ron Tyson to the Tempts Ron Ron can Burn. Yeah, yeah,
Tyson Man Tyson can barn Brother.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
See, that would be he would be He would be
perfect because you know he can come on and talk
about his uh, his uh time with the Temptations and
going there and cook and you know, and and one
other things we're gonna talk about with the show is
you know, we're gonna have you know, like a you know,
a note or a tablet or something under the in

(01:01:25):
house guests where they could if they if this thing
is underneath they seek, they'll be able to come up
on stage and cook with their favorite artists. You know.
So that's gonna be cooking with my homie. So I'm
really excited about getting to that again. You know, I'm
the whole whole, whole different situation that I was when
I first started.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
Yes, it sounds very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
I actually had a chance to meet Cooper Good and
Senior were you up there, Giant when they had the
wrap party and the journey for that movie that Cooper
Good and Finger was in.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
And Joe Jackson was in. I forgot a few there
or not.

Speaker 7 (01:01:59):
I know you're talking abou I was up there, but
uh no, I know he was senior. I know he
could he could burn a little bit. We did a
couple of tours with them. You know he could go.
You know, hey, I think cause Londie Cook I talked
to her not too long ago, because she cooked Yeah, yeah, yes,
because her and Brenda Leeger they probably they probably gonna

(01:02:20):
cook me some fruitcakes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
So I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
That's just like it's like just like Milly Milly was
but sending me. That's my heart.

Speaker 7 (01:02:30):
Oh, that's my girl. Yeah, I love Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
She's sending me uh, sending me fruitcakes, uh every year,
every year. And I got upset because I didn't get
one last year. And she said she made one man,
but takes man one one slice of that cake. You done?
You done?

Speaker 7 (01:02:49):
Brenda Liegg the same way, man, she can. Both of
them can burn some fruitcakes. Man, they've seen it real.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Siou well, I bet her, I heard, I bet her
what drunk like Milli's is the one slice? Take you
be stated, bro.

Speaker 7 (01:03:06):
Milly is a whole different conversations, and we spent an
hour on million.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
I talked to her yesterday. She called the customer asked
for a couple of minutes.

Speaker 7 (01:03:18):
Tell her, I don't know if she's aware if Spawling
Settle passed away. I don't know if she's aware, but
she would she would know, all right, Well, yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
The next photo I'll say is the Walter Dumas story
and the top is a little bit cut off, but
it's just something suffocation, right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
That was That was a book that we published recently.
He was a young man that I told you that
it was traffic that had been passed around through the
Okay Boys boys, which I said, is a true story.
That's what they were doing with those young boys. They
was passing around a month with the executives to those pedophiles.

(01:04:03):
But we publish his book, which again is the true story,
and we're looking to film that movie pretty soon because
it's a dark subject, man, but it's still going on
existing today today. It's one of those things that a
lot of a lot of children and young adults are abused,

(01:04:23):
and they've been staying not to talk about it and
tell people about it. But I feel like, you know,
if we talk about it and keep it out there,
man would be able to help some of these kids.
That's been abused. There's some sick people in this world today.
So that's really why I decided to publish that movie,

(01:04:44):
that book. I said, we're going to do the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
The next thing is the word creations with a start
with a K and and with a Z. Creations with
a yellow microphone and a music no coming.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
What's Creation is our music video channel, you know, similar
to MTV. So Creations our music video channel where we
accepted music videos in all genre, you know, So Creations
all sorts on Amazon and Firestones. For the artists out

(01:05:19):
there that got the heat, you know, bring it to Creations,
you know, so we can see what you got, see
what you do, and we can make it happen.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
Speak of the music videos.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
So if somebody want to put a video on your channel,
they get in contact with you through the website. They
can go to World Movement dot com or what they
do who they need to contact if they want to
put something on your network.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
The just thing for them to do is call the
office which is three two three nine five seven seven
three two two. That's our office phone number. They could
also you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Can repeat it, repeat it three times and say it's
slow for because some peoplere gonna be saying this on
YouTube and other platforms.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
And you can also put in a chat for the
people that's here on zoom or.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Their phone number is stop talking to Their phone number
is three two three nine five seven seven three two two. Again,
that's three two three nine five seven seven three two
two a mogime three two three nine five seven seven

(01:06:26):
three two two. That's the Office of World Movement Practice,
World Movement Enterprise. We're all right there, So that's the
phone number. You could also email me at lamonts at
Worldmovement dot com or info at Worldmovement dot com. Everything
is World Movement. We don't have no generic email address

(01:06:48):
or a guy who World Movement moving the world with
our music. That's who we are.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Okay, great, that's great.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
Let me see what I see next. Let's sue we
got coming here next? Okay, at the creations I have?
Who's funny Comedy Show?

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
I happened to see part of that though, that was funny,
So at least you got something that I can enjoy
make me laugh.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
So tell us about Who's Funny Comedy Show? And tell
us about it?

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Well, who's funny? Let me see?

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
I was?

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
I was one of those guys. I like what Keenan
Wayne did with in Living Color. I've always enjoyed that,
and I've always enjoyed the fact that he had a
sixsuation that developed other comedians, you know, other comedians had

(01:07:50):
grew up, you know, Jim Carrey, Jamie Foxx, you know,
all these guys came out of in Living Color. So
when I came out my television channels, you know, I
started looking around at all the dramas going in the
world today and how I was feeling, like, you know,
I got come up in the politics. And but anyway,
I start thinking, you know, people need to laugh more,

(01:08:13):
they need to last more, you know, and so they
don't be depressed. Man, you feel the people doing all
kind of weird stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
I had the opportunity to, uh, you know, work with
guys like Bill bellamye on bell Air.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
You know, I've been on The Neighborhood Cedric Show numerous
amount of times. Uh and uh, Tad Williams used to
work for me, uh once upon a time. So I
start thinking about, now that I have a television channel,
why shouldn't I do a comedy show, and why shouldn't

(01:08:54):
I give up and coming comedians a platform between road
On on Amazon. It's two hundred and ninety million viewers,
you know, so why shouldn't I do that? You know?
So we came up with with Who's Funny. For the
last couple of years, it's been going great. We've had
some great comedians on there. One of my other friends,

(01:09:16):
Joey Medina, he's helped a lot, you guys, made No
Joys from the original Latinkina comedy great producer director, got
great movies out and won thirty forty fifty hundred awards
last year or so for you know, movie direction and production.
But we have that, we have that comedy show and

(01:09:36):
then we have Make Me Laugh Monday, and then there's
several other comedy shows. So I tell everybody go to
the World Movement Enterprise on Roku and Amazon and just
click through. We got something there for everybody. It's just
like Hulu Netflix to be. The only difference is black on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Sorry, that's beautiful, okay, how And I want to salute
DJ brown Beef getting on here tonight. That's my first
time saying DJ ground Beef. I said, Mike cat Home
got his favorite canid on camera. I want to shout
out to Cool TLC, who is a rap median. You

(01:10:15):
heard me talking about him earlier as Queen Karen's son.
He's a rap median. I mean, he's a rapper and
he's a comedian. So I'm sure he would love to
be on your show and probably put some music and
videos on your channel. So that's somebody probably want to
work with you. Are you able to a new Cool TLC?

Speaker 6 (01:10:33):
Or yes?

Speaker 8 (01:10:34):
Sir?

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
Okay, go ahead, Hey, what's happening? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Sir?

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
How were you going on?

Speaker 6 (01:10:40):
He having light skin as usual, just trying to do
what I do, that's all.

Speaker 10 (01:10:48):
Yeah. I was checking out and hearing the stuff that
you're doing, and I know you were in the LA
area and stuff like that, and I was wondering in
my mind, how far out do you reach, you know,
because I'm in I'm in Cleveland, Ohio.

Speaker 6 (01:11:02):
Of course, I know you always have to make moves
to go to LA.

Speaker 10 (01:11:05):
But how far out do you reach, you know, as
far as in dealing with artists or or you know,
comedians and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
I've been around the world and now yeah, yeah, okay,
there's there's no there's no certain thing now, man, it's
not like it was back It's not like it was
back in the sixties, where you know, it takes two weeks,
two weeks to get a across the pond, you know,
right nesting, but ten seconds now. So yeah, well what

(01:11:38):
I'm doing, what I'm doing now on the television network
is worldwide actually, so yeah, yeah, don't don't let.

Speaker 10 (01:11:46):
Oh yeah, I'm just trying to see how it could
be a part and down. I know I'm funny enough. Okay, Yeah,
I know I'm funny enough, and.

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
I got enough.

Speaker 8 (01:11:57):
You're confident, you know, like, oh.

Speaker 10 (01:11:59):
Yeah, I've been doing this for a long time. I
ain't a new jack to this at all. I've been
doing comedy. I've been around the world twice. I didn't
travel with you name it out of open up for them,
you name you name the comic. I haven't been there
when they was broke. You know what I'm saying. So
I've been doing this for a long time.

Speaker 8 (01:12:17):
Well, Lemana is an icon, So you're talking to the right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Get Yeah, we got to Like I said, I put
out my email address. You got the office number. I mean,
they sent us some information. If you got uh, you know,
a video something, send it and send it to us, man,
so you know we can see what you got me.
Uh you you doing it like that and you get
to the point where you want to have a show
or do your own timing show man, we can definitely

(01:12:41):
engage that conversation as well, because I'm always looking for
content creators, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:12:46):
Oh yeah, oh, definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
It's all about It's all about the growth, man, you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Oh, you never heard of a comedian or a rapper
name I'm a say, a comedian or entertainer name you
name it is. That's somebody knew that I had learned about.
He said, he said, you name it. He's on tour
with them.

Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
Hey yeah, I've been, I'd have been, you know. The
greatest thing.

Speaker 10 (01:13:08):
I'm just say, the greatest thing, you know, And this
ain't about me, And you know, this is just not
throwing what I've done, because I've done a lot. But
the greatest thing to me was opening up for Al Green,
not once, but twice, and and we opened up the
House of Blues when it first got to Cleveland, Ohio,
it was me Al Green and Nas at twelve o'clock.

Speaker 8 (01:13:29):
Hey man, you opening up for Kinsman dass band too.

Speaker 6 (01:13:32):
Yeah, I opened up for Kinsman Dads band.

Speaker 10 (01:13:34):
I don't opened up for Patty LaBelle Ron Isley, Queen
of tiefa some dog. I mean, I'd have done it all.
I ain't trying to brag. It's just I'm proud of
what I've done.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Got me in trouble freshman year in college. So I
know about al Green, Yeah, and he wasn't. Yeah, they
wouldn't let him. He was doing a gospel, so they was.
When he was doing gospel, they was everybody start.

Speaker 10 (01:14:01):
It was funny because everybody starts singing love and happiness
and made him sing a little bit of it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:06):
He wouldn't go into it because he was on his gospel.

Speaker 10 (01:14:09):
But everybody in the audience starts singing love and happiness
and he, you know, he started as soon as you
heard that, and he started doing that and they just
start broking. But he said, he said, no, I can't
do that. I'm gonna do my gospel. They was like, oh,
you know, saying so yeah, I just love to get
on your platform. See what we can shake and make happen.

Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:14:33):
I think I got a lot to go to your
your your your worldwide.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
I definitely give you and your mama Queen Caring information
the email, his his Instagram, website, everything and phone number
whether you need.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
There's no problem. The next filost you look like your
cartoon series.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
Cartoon. Yeah, I'm really loving this is uh cat Nep Chronicles.
I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of American
Dad Family Guy, uh Boondocks, even going back to uh

(01:15:16):
Fritz the Cat, which is one of the first adult cartoons.

Speaker 8 (01:15:20):
Yeah, Chrome Robert Krum.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Yeah, so I've always been into that. And again, I
mean we we we got uh we got we got
TV networks, you know, we got outlets, so why not
uh utilize what we have. So I'm playing uh cat Nep.
I'm the voiceover of cat Nep. And then we have

(01:15:46):
uh ron Cole, who's uh who's a stump, he's smelly male,
and uh we got Foxy Fox, we got some characters.
So I would just you know, again, tell everybody, just
just look it up, man, and you be surprised what
we have going on. Now. It's gonna be a new
series that's coming out uh this summer, and again it's

(01:16:07):
gonna be on Roku and Amazon.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Okay, the next The next thing I say is something
called rape r a p E. And it's the initial shock.
The Bridget hair story. You'll tell us a little bit
about that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Okay, Well, Bridget Harris was the young lady that you
you heard about or that was in news, which again
was a true story. She was the young lady that
had been molested by her dad for many years and
she cut off his penis. Oh, she was out of Brooklyn,
New York, and it was it was big news too.

(01:16:40):
But uh, she didn't she didn't do that. He passed away,
but she wasn't doing it to kill him. She was
doing it so that he wouldn't molest the granddaughters like
he did her. She spent a little time in jail,
and because the judge that heard a case, he was
getting ready to retire, so he didn't take any consideration,

(01:17:03):
none of the traumas she had been subjected to, you know,
over the years. So he went on and locked her up.
But as it turned out, you know, some of the
other City founders, they realized what he did and now understood,
you know, the trauma that she had had been enduring
all the years, realized that she wasn't really trying to

(01:17:24):
kill him by a suvern, you know, his manhood. She
was just trying to stop him from a lesson the grandkids.
So that's rape initial shock. It's available everywhere you know,
book format and know wherever.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
I mused, Okay, the next thing I see is the
player step your game up. You talked about that a
little bit earlier when you mentioned the other woman.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Go ahead, Well, that's a self help book for men,
and I would encourage anybody and everybody, especially the men,
to read that book because when we came up with
that book, Putty Tony, we realized that a lot of
men that forgot to do how to be men, they
just they just got you know, even today you can

(01:18:13):
see a lot of men don't even know how to
change the flat tire. Man, I've been driving changing flat
tires before I had a big wheel, so you know
I don't understand that. So players step the game up
is really talking to our youth and men in general,
you know, how to get their nuts back where they're
supposed to be, how to start, how to start respecting

(01:18:34):
themselves before I can you expect your woman to respect you,
and you pride more than she does, you know, So
that's pick it up for let's step your game up.
It's available to Amazon, Barns and Nobles. It's available everywhere
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Okay, the next thing is I Am Indy Show hosted
by Lamont Patterson.

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
If you have to know him.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Yeah, I don't know, man, that cat. I don't know
what's up. I hear we put his job every day
and start back to me. But I Am Indy, that's
what it is. I am independent, I am Indie, you know.
And it was a podcast, you know, and that's what
we talk about. We talked about some of the same

(01:19:17):
stuff we're talking about right now, the music industry, the
recording industry. We play artists music on that show. We
try to give them some information. We tried to impart
some of the things that we went through prior to
then up until now, so hopefully they don't make some

(01:19:40):
of the same mistakes that we made, you know, And
chances start, they're not going to make some of the
same mistakes we made because they're a lot more intense
and should I say, they're a lot more egotistical than
we were coming up, you know, because we had a
tendency to listen to people that was trying to give
us game and tell us what to do and what

(01:20:02):
not to do. But I've noticed a lot of these
young artists today they got more ego than they got
common sense. You know. They want to tell you how
things supposed to go. And my question is, man, I
ain't never told somebody how to drive apart and I
ain't never drove one.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
And I think, you know what a lot of artists
don't understand. And I tell them on my shows too,
And I hope you got people out there listening.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
The first thing you need to know is what you.

Speaker 7 (01:20:32):
Don't know, you know, the mind. One thing that was
reading that's great was I was talking to Melvin to
the Temptations, you know, before you passed. We were just
talking and I'm not going to name the other group,
but it was a group that is, you know, pretty
famous still this day. But he was talking to the

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bass singer and he was telling him how to sing bass.
And the guy looked at Melson, what can you tell
me about singing bass? And this is Melvin Franklin, right,
And I'm saying, you know, it's that these egos, you know,
you and I might basically forgotten more and they know

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you know, because we said we came up that that
that we experienced, you know, the experiences that we had
on the road. We're serious, you know, and all that
stuff was for real.

Speaker 6 (01:21:30):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:21:31):
Uh, you were talking about manhood. I have a saying
that any boy can grow into a man, that takes
a real man to grow into manhood. Or any woman
can girl become a woman, but it takes a real
woman to grow into womanhood. You know, those are two
different things.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
And all that comes from you knowing what you don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:21:53):
That's right, that's a good line, man, I love that line.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Yeah, that's class.

Speaker 5 (01:22:00):
Actually, I don't like being around anybody who acts like
they know something when they don't know. Or the worst
is when they act like they know everything because you
know that ain't true.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
Well, I think I think they came up with that cliche.
Uh well, you gotta fake it till you make it.
But they're really not paying attention to what's going on
in the world today, because if they even looked at
something as simple as the economy, they would know you
can't fake shit. Man, nobody's got no money. Everybody's pretty

(01:22:33):
much on survival mode, so you can't come with no
fake shit. If you expect you better come with something real,
because nobody got nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
Who waste for no reason?

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
That's right, nobody, nobody, not even a billionaire, not even
a billionnaires. The being airs are scared because they don't
want to stop being billionaires.

Speaker 8 (01:22:57):
Oh yeah yeah, oh oh yeah, they want to tax
break yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
Oh shit. So so you really got to keep it
real and that old, that old stuff, well, you know,
you got to take it till you make it. No, no,
no no, because guess what real people like me and
the one that's on this phone right now, man, we
see that shit twenty miles away.

Speaker 8 (01:23:17):
Man, a plenty for what a penny from a million
dollars is no longer a million?

Speaker 4 (01:23:22):
Hmmm?

Speaker 5 (01:23:23):
Yeah, what was that one thing you said LP where
you said as long as as hard as you work
to get it, they working just as hard to take
it something.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
Like that, right, absolutely, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
See that's why I love this man right here. You know,
he's a good mentor. I just want to jump in
and say, like, definitely excited for this interview because what
we're doing at World Movement, you know, like you were
saying earlier with Cool TLC is it's everywhere it's you know,
it's with the world. So and Lamont, you know, he's
a great mentor and definitely got to check out what
we're doing in the music industry because we're sticking out

(01:23:56):
like a sore thumb. And that is the plan, you know,
out of breath, that is the plan, so that people
don't see it's you know, coming until we in your face.

Speaker 4 (01:24:05):
I'm sure thumb like a thumb.

Speaker 5 (01:24:08):
Yeah, let me show you this.

Speaker 6 (01:24:09):
What do you call it?

Speaker 5 (01:24:11):
The artwork? I think the artwork kind of says it all. Man,
I just lost my screen boom. Anyway, there is right
little graffiti, a little bit of sensuality, you know. I
just I didn't grow up in the right area era.
But thanks to hearing all your stories and stuff, I
feel like I can still enjoy and maybe we can

(01:24:32):
find a way to bring some of that that happiness,
some of that love for music, some of that love
for life back. But I didn't want to take over
too much airtime. I just wanted to say thank you
to the man you know here on the screen LP.
We're gonna make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
Well with follow the Coote activity going on these days,
that's a little bit too much activity on that photo, well.

Speaker 5 (01:24:54):
Too much activity.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
But all I got to say is for the men
that like the opption sex, I don't think they got
a problem with it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
No, No Didny thinking of No Diddy Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
When I heard I Am Indy show, I figured I
Am Indy must be the theme song for a Dinny party.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
I am Indy.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Now, if you keep talking that stuff, man, I'm gonna
tell him about the pictures that we just turned up
on you. So you need to stop.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
The last I want to discuss before we get into
a little bit about Jason and some of the things
you did mentioned earlier is the can of Play and
Play and that's one of your you said, joined the
conversations streaming on Roku and all of that, So that's
another one of your shows.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
I mean, I know you mentioned a lot of them together,
but I'm going to go into them one by one.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
That's the last one, okay, Well kind of player player
was actually a player on words because when I came
up with the title for that show, and that show
was created with Pretty Tony's books, the reason we came
up with the out of that show is because again,
people don't think when you hear canna player play. The

(01:26:06):
first thing that you want to think about is some
street stuff or some urban stuff. That's the first thing
they want to go through your mind. But cand of
player play, I was looking at the guys like Koshogi,
like the Donald Trump's of the world, like the Elon
Musks of the world. To me, those guys are the

(01:26:29):
true players. They're the one that's college shots, those ones
that's making move that affect everyday life. So I started,
I start having those type of guests on the shows,
headed corporations, head of self help groups, head of people
that was going through domestic violence groups. I start having

(01:26:51):
CEOs of companies on the shows because that's the ones
that can affect change. You know, it's no sense in
having somebody on the show that can't help people or
share experience, or offer a hope or give direction on
how to make their life better.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
I've had a lot of people come on the show
and just want to share their stories, and the show
grew dramatically because of my gas and my grass roots effect.
No judgment, you know, because what may be dysfunctional to you,

(01:27:33):
maybe somebody else is normal.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
I had this one lady calling one day, and she
told me, you know, if a husband and slap up
side of the head every day he didn't love you know,
where to me or some other listeners, we might find
out that's crazy. Shit man, somebody hit me up side
of the head. You know it's going down. But you
got other people in the world that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
See love.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
That's a perfection different, you know, and they don't even
know the root cause of that. They just say, well,
you didn't slap the shit out of me, so I
know you don't love me, you know. And I'm like, okay,
So I learned how not to be a judgmental, but
just like trying to offer another road, you know, another

(01:28:18):
role and have people that was dealing with domestic virus
or had survived it to come on the air, you know,
talk talk to these people. But you know, I still
enjoy doing that show. But to have leaders in the community,
that's what kind of players play about, because to me,

(01:28:39):
those are the true player, the one that's making shit out.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Those are players, right, alternate round.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
And the last thing I want to discuss before we
get into Jameson, who probably thought I was gonna forget
about him, but I wasn't. I want to read something
that one of my co hosts sent me and a
coach I don't particularly care for because I don't like
people the smarter than me.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
So we're talking about Queen Karin g from Washington d C.
I mean activists.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
She sent me this I'm about to read, and it's
not about her son the rap media neither.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
It reads.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Lamont Patterson has appeared in several TV shows and films.
Some of his notable roles include TV shows Rosewood, a
comedy drama series on Fox Night, work House of Lies,
a Showtime special starring Don Teetle, Hit the Floor, a
series feature in kimber Laaliss Franklin and Bash, The New

(01:29:34):
Girls Bench on ABC, Modern Family, Outlaws, The Last Ship
on TNT, Criminal Minds one of my favorite shows, Murder
in the First Agent X starring and staring Sharon Stone,
Playout and Playing House with Kenny Larger on the USA Network.

(01:29:56):
Films The Initial Shock, The Bridget Hair Story feature film
where he served as a chief financial officer and soundtrack coordinator,
a Nike commercial, Monster Jam, a commercial with Blake Griffin.
And It's also worth noting that Lamont Patterson's primary focus
is on music and he has found that World Movement

(01:30:17):
Records of nineteen ninety. He has worked with notable artists
like Aaron Neville, Quincy Jones, Marvin Gaye, tell us to
Mike Calhoun, Marvin Gay and and John Wilson, Marvin Gay,
Ike Turner, and Tina Turner. That's sure, I don't remember
saying nothing about Marvin Gay because I would have mentioned
Mike Calhoun if you said Marvin Gay or Turner. So

(01:30:39):
since you know that was one of those stories that
never made the press.

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
Before we go to Jason, Tina Turner gave me my
first meek to Wow. Tina Turner gave me my.

Speaker 8 (01:30:52):
First hold man, you gotta be crazy, man, Kenmy, this
is the bad This is the baddest cat you ever
had on your I've been listening. I've been on here
about ten years, you know, I Man, this dude is
a crazy man.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
I A Turner.

Speaker 4 (01:31:09):
Gave you a purk coat.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
Gave me my first mean coat when everyone it was
cool for everybody to wear the full black guy.

Speaker 8 (01:31:17):
That's a true true mac. You she gave me.

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
So he's said the playing place, So he out here.

Speaker 8 (01:31:23):
Playing playing the mac in too. Man, that's a mac.
That's a Mac move Man.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
Well, uh, Ike Turner was the first one that showed
me what a rusty bullet.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
Looked like a rusty bullet. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
Yeah, I was recording. Uh, I was recording over He
had the studio in Inglewood, Bolot Bowler Bollot Studio. He
had everybody over there. I mean Jim Jimmy, Hendrick, Shopper, Khan,
Buddy Miles. Uh, everybody used to go to that studio.
But anyway, Uh, my little brother and and and Ike

(01:32:00):
Junior were real good friends and we was there recording,
was setting up the record and I only had so
much money. Man, I only had money for like maybe
three hours to record in there. That was one of
my first groups. Actually the group I had was called
Element of Peace that Aaron Neville you know, helped me
with in New Orleans. But anyway, we were recording some

(01:32:22):
stuff over that at Ike Studio, and my brother and
Ike Junior was playing around and they burnt up an
hour just trying to get the shit set up. So
as it turned out, man, I went like an hour
and something over the recording time. And when it went
to come and get my master's you know, I told
me I owed him more money and I said, well,
I don't owe you know, more money. I got what

(01:32:43):
I got. And I said, well, it was Ike Junior
that was delayed on, you know, setting up, because you
know he was in there messing around my younger brother.
So you know, I said, Man, this is all the
money I got. He said, well, you know I know better.
He know how to set up a studio and know
how to run the studio. I said, well, you know,
call June in and he'll tell you. He said, well,
I ain't got to call nobody in here. I said, well, man, listen,

(01:33:06):
all I need to know is, look, I got your
money right here. I need my master so he can go.
He said, Man, I told you I need more money.
If you don't give me more money, you ain't getting
your tastes. I said, but I right when I before.
I said, but I looked around, man, and I said,
first time I seen some rusty thirty eight bullets put

(01:33:30):
in by Faith and you could see the chambers, you know,
the bullets around the chamber. It was some rusty bullets
in man.

Speaker 7 (01:33:38):
Man, Wow, it's the stories that Lamnis is saying. Is
what we tell these younger artists, or what we went through.
You know, I'm gonna tell you tell you similar story.
I had just got through producing the Impressions, right, and
so the person who hired me, who owned the label,

(01:34:04):
still old me, old me fifteen hundred dollars right. So
but luckily I had, you know, the Masters. And then
so they called me down on Sunsetting the nine Thousand
Buildings Bray, right across from the Roxet. That's where his
attorney was. So he said, uh, you know, John, I
know you sly silking wicked, but you just now becoming,

(01:34:26):
you know, starting to come producer, and you don't want
to have no bad name, so, uh, you know, give
me the Masters. I said, well, look, I said, you
still owe me fifteen hundred dollars. Man, And he said,
well again, like I said, you know, you're still an
up and coming producer, you know, and I'll advise you

(01:34:46):
because what bad name bad? You know, bad mouth you.
I said, Okay, I'll tell you this what I'm gonna do.
I said, I'm gonna take the Masters and I'm gonna
start walking west on Sunset until they start floating. Okay,
that's what's going to happen. And so they said, well,
you know, we got something in this drawer for you.

(01:35:07):
I said, well, if you're gonna use that, you might
as well use it because you're not getting the masters, right,
And so they tried that on me, and so I
walked outside and I heard him talk, and they called
me back in and they pulled out a check. I said,
well no, I said, give me cash. And the guy said, well,

(01:35:32):
you know what I got in this drawer. I said,
keep what you got in the drawer. I said, because
you either can use it or you can give me
my fifteen hundred dollars in cash and I give you
a master. So they talked about it and they gave
me the money. Said, you got fifteen minutes to get
the masters. How far you got to go? I said,
right outside in my car. I went out there and

(01:35:54):
gave it. But that stuff is for real. Yeah, those
are the that Leamont and Mike and I try to
tell these young artists you know, you know, y'all got
it easy compared to what we went through.

Speaker 8 (01:36:09):
But the Lamont Tina wanted you to not that dude.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
Man listen again.

Speaker 8 (01:36:15):
I was, come on, now, come on, now, you ain't
gonna tell me, you ain't got a kiss and tell.
But that's Tina Turner baby, and she brought you a
fur coat. She was trying to get that height. She's
like her dog.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
He was young, brother.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
It was the one than fifteen, this one in fifteen
met told she already had.

Speaker 8 (01:36:34):
Oh but I'm saying, but she ain't got to give
it to you.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
No, that's true, that's true. But I was shy, brother, Yeah,
and she liked that she was looking at she's licking
her lips.

Speaker 11 (01:36:46):
Man.

Speaker 8 (01:36:47):
I was shy, just like I am.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
Now you know. I was just a shy, quiet guy.

Speaker 8 (01:36:51):
You're a teenage you probably a teenager back then.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
Yeah. Too fast. I just like I said, I grew
too I grew up too fast. Them too much, too fast.

Speaker 8 (01:37:01):
I was wanting but Tina, Tina wanted to not wanted
you to.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
Not that, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
If Tino gave him a shirt, that mean that not
a shirt, a fur coat, Yeah, I'm sorry, a fur coat,
that means too much recording.

Speaker 6 (01:37:21):
He would smack the ship up.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
No, they just they just they just they was they
just came up in a time too where they just
got too much too fast, you know, And I work
you were worried to watch. I watched it with their kids,
and actually I ended up making some of the same mistake. Man.
You know, we always try to do more for our
children than our parents able to do for us.

Speaker 4 (01:37:48):
You got something this.

Speaker 10 (01:37:53):
I just wanted to ask the month because you said
he was in Rosewood? What role did you play?

Speaker 6 (01:37:59):
Because I used to watch that that that was one
of them shows where h how you see it?

Speaker 10 (01:38:07):
You said he used to watch Listen, bro, listen, we
ain't gonna we ain't gonna go through that because I
ain't always been this way.

Speaker 6 (01:38:14):
So yeah, you know, I ain't always been.

Speaker 8 (01:38:19):
I never knew. I never knew that, my brother, God
bless you, man to God glory.

Speaker 10 (01:38:24):
But but you said you was in Rosewood, and Rosewood
was one of the movies. I mean, you know, one
of the TV shows that was like you good one
part and you pissed off on the other.

Speaker 4 (01:38:38):
It was a movie.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
Yeah, it was. It was like to me a lot
a lot of those other ones man. You like I
said to me, all those with with Mars, those guys range. Yeah,
it was it was all like on the job training
to me, man, because everybody was all excited to be
working with you guys. But I was so busy trying
to find out how shit. Oh okay, you know, just

(01:39:03):
being an actor was never my endgame, just like it's
not my dgame now. I mean being able to produce
and direct uh my films, my production is my endgame.
It's just like a singer as a musician. Man, once
you once you master that, that's something that you always
can do, but that's not all you want to do.

Speaker 10 (01:39:23):
It makes sense, right, And that was just when you
was talking, when y'all was talking about it, I just
wanted to come in and the problem with these young folks,
it's not the fact. And I'm gonna just say this
because I watched it a thousand times, even talking to me.
It's not the fact that y'all know what y'all talking about.
And it's not the fact that y'all know. These young
kids are so busy to.

Speaker 6 (01:39:45):
Be in the note that every time you see them,
they already know.

Speaker 10 (01:39:50):
So they don't want to learn nothing because they they
process is I should already know this, So they fake
it to make it. It's not knowing but saying something
that they heard. It's not factual because they ain't research it.
They just go and say it because somebody else said it.

Speaker 8 (01:40:08):
Let them learn the hard way, right, No, it's not.

Speaker 6 (01:40:11):
It ain't even really learning the hard way. They're gonna
have to learn anyway.

Speaker 8 (01:40:15):
But it's hard the hard way if they don't listen
to lodging.

Speaker 6 (01:40:19):
Right, And then you got a lot of these kids.
You got to think about it.

Speaker 10 (01:40:22):
A lot of these cats that do listen, and I'm
just saying come from single parent homes. So a lot
of these cats is not listening to other cats tell
them nothing because a lot of them got daddy issues
and we don't and a lot of people don't take
that in consideration, but that is something that a lot
of these kids deal with, and they can't take the

(01:40:42):
authority of an older cat telling them something because they
feel like that's what their father would it did, and
they don't have it, and they grew up on their own,
so they want to listen to theyself and not listen
to them. I'm not saying it's right, because it's not right,
but it's just knowing where because you got to deal
with daddy issues and abandonment before you even deal with

(01:41:06):
some of these artists, because some of them don't even
know how to be an artist and what it takes
to even be an artist.

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
Well, how about this. It gets even simpler than that.
Common sense is not common right, because if you had
common sense, it will tell you what you know and
what you don't. But because you don't have common sense,
you speak when you should be listening. And that's what

(01:41:35):
I see in a lot of youth today, And that's
doubling down on just what you said. But it goes
back to just simple horse sense common sense. If you
don't know something, shut the fuck up. Somebody might tell you.
Somebody just might tell you. That's why usually when I
go to an event or a concert, or a panel

(01:41:55):
or whatever it may be, I don't talk. I listen
because I want to fill in the room. Man. I
can exactly. I can tell who the power the power
players are.

Speaker 8 (01:42:07):
I can tell how they move in the room. You
know they don't they don't have to do all.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
Of those flash and all that boisterous stuff. Look look
at me, look at me? Why has kept a lot
of times I don't want people to look at me.
I want to lay back in the cut because I know,
I know when you're that guy. When you're that guy,
guess what responsibility comes with that?

Speaker 1 (01:42:28):
You get to a point where you don't want to
deal with all this so crazy responsibility.

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
You just want to land the cut because we've been
there and done that. Man, it's all about for me.
For me right now, it's all about working smarter, not hard.
I don't have to try to reinvent the wheels. I
know it's rould.

Speaker 8 (01:42:48):
You live in a dream, not chasing it.

Speaker 6 (01:42:49):
Right, we just live in.

Speaker 10 (01:42:51):
We live unfortunately, we just live in and show me
state where they don't understand what show and tail is.
They really don't understand it because nobody he gave them
the blueprint. And I'm not saying that they didn't. They
shouldn't have learned it. Nobody gave them the blue I'm
just saying. I'm just saying because I ran into it
a thousand times.

Speaker 8 (01:43:10):
When you don't want them son don't want to learn, No,
some of them.

Speaker 6 (01:43:14):
Don't, but sometimes being older.

Speaker 10 (01:43:17):
And I'm just say this too, because if you know
your father or ever been a father, you a lot
of times you can't come in playing daddy.

Speaker 8 (01:43:26):
Yeah, but it ain't no fool like an old shoot.

Speaker 6 (01:43:28):
Right, I get you, I get you.

Speaker 10 (01:43:30):
I'm saying, but you can't come in playing daddy and
a lot of cats do come in playing daddy, you
don't know nothing. Shut up, I'm gonna tell you. Instead
of having a conversation, don't talk at me, talk with me.

Speaker 6 (01:43:43):
And that's the I see that a lot.

Speaker 10 (01:43:46):
You know where you see an older cat that might say, well, man,
you should do this, but you saying it from the
fact that you did it. They didn't, But your demeanor
is saying, like, why won't you know this shit? I
don't know it, So how am I supposed to know it?
If you're coming at me like I should know it,
don't come at me like I should know it. Make

(01:44:06):
it a conversation, because all they want to do is
act like they invented the ideas. And we as petty people,
as petty as older folks, is as petty as y'all is.
And I can say everybody in this room has been petty,
as petty as you is. You should know how to
manipulate to get these kids to do what you need
them to do, not what they want to do, what

(01:44:27):
you need them to do.

Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
That's just me.

Speaker 10 (01:44:30):
I'm not saying this adds and something. This is just
stuff I seen over the years, and I fell a
victim of it. Myself, so I checked myself before I
check somebody else.

Speaker 3 (01:44:42):
Well, another thing I know, and I'm sure everybody else
par realized we lost a too free generation of parents
because of the drugs. We were through the age of Us,
through the crist through the free base.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
Uh, now we're.

Speaker 3 (01:45:01):
Dealing with fitt and you know, we lost the generation
of parents. So that caused a lot of these kids
to have to raise themselves.

Speaker 5 (01:45:10):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
Societies put them in a situation where they had to
raise themselves so fast. And I can honestly say that
because my unblinging man, I got to be a kid,
you know, I got to play baseball, hit rocks with
a stick, make them take my old Union five skates
and turn them into school a scooter I got. I

(01:45:37):
got to be a kid, you know, before I had
to deal with adult issues. These kids today have to
deal with adult issues. They don't They want to get
the opportunity to be children, so that that that really
schools them up, right then, you know, because you hear
a lot of these kids right now when you try

(01:45:57):
to tell them, or you try to tell something when
you ain't my mama, well you ain't my daddy. Well
you're right I'm not.

Speaker 8 (01:46:03):
But guess what.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
You can go be with your mama or you go
be with your daddy, because I'm not gonna feed and
take care of nobody that's not gonna listen and live
with my rules and regulations of my right. So and
a lot of these females they don't want a guy
to discipline their children, but they want this guy to
give them a room, by a clothes, give them food.

(01:46:25):
But then you minute to discipline, Well, you can't hit
my child or the child say, well, you ain't my daddy.
You can't tell me nothing. And I'm cool with all that.
Go be with your daddy. And if your mama don't
like me beating that, you know what, she can go
with him too. I have no problem with none of that.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:46:40):
But it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
It's just a bad time, you know. And I say it,
and I'm gonna keep saying again. A lot of people
just don't know what they don't know. And if they
start thinking about what they don't know, then they should
be smart to go get to seek the information that
they do know or want to know. That's gonna happen,
and then that's when that's when change is gonna happen.

(01:47:03):
You got to know what you don't know to go
get the information so you can know.

Speaker 4 (01:47:07):
Knowledge is power.

Speaker 8 (01:47:09):
Knowledge is power.

Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
Rock knowledge and and and as us think about it,
as us we were, we were the people that society
did not even want us to learn how to read
it in the first place.

Speaker 8 (01:47:25):
That's why.

Speaker 3 (01:47:25):
And if you think about it, they trying to take
history out of school now right now, so the next
generation won't know all the criminal stuff this country has
been done to certain people, you know what I'm saying.
So so so it's amazing. It's amazing how people, you know,
they're not paying attention that really what's going on. I mean,

(01:47:47):
how do you change history? History is what it is,
the good, bad, ugly.

Speaker 8 (01:47:50):
It is what it is, right, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:47:53):
So who tilc Mama want to make a comment too.
In the meantime with all you guys just running your
mouth a cool te you.

Speaker 6 (01:48:02):
Who learned you?

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
You know what I was saying, learned manners?

Speaker 4 (01:48:09):
What I was saying, somebody put Mike in the weight room?

Speaker 12 (01:48:15):
Who learn you let them talk? You don't never let
them talk? And see that's how I act, man.

Speaker 7 (01:48:21):
I know.

Speaker 8 (01:48:22):
Thank you, Karen, go ahead, car Queen Karen.

Speaker 12 (01:48:25):
Let him talk more time, especially since he stopped putting
his finger over the over the camera.

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
I learned.

Speaker 11 (01:48:38):
The upbringing, the foundation from home, and kids don't have it.
And when you when you spoke the truth about the drugs,
that took that away. You know, you got a whole
three generations going on, four generations of kids that were
just raising each other, living off for oodles and noodles,
you know.

Speaker 12 (01:48:58):
And so when an.

Speaker 11 (01:49:01):
Older person comes to tell them something, they don't want
to hear because they already think they're equal to that person.
So the devil of respect is not there because they
just didn't have it. They raised itself. Parents went to jail,
they stayed in public housing. One stayed in somebody's housing
until somebody else said well they have to move out.

Speaker 12 (01:49:21):
They go somewhere else. They're living in the laundry rooms
and things like that, you know.

Speaker 11 (01:49:25):
And then it's this generation that comes up where parenting
seems to have to feel like they have to beg
a child like do this please, or don't say that please?

Speaker 12 (01:49:36):
You know, in different things.

Speaker 11 (01:49:37):
I noticed that with people now they talk to me
like that and tell them close the door please, or
did not ask you not to say that.

Speaker 12 (01:49:45):
Please, no, close the.

Speaker 11 (01:49:47):
Door and don't say that like I tell my granddaughter,
you know, you do what I say. Oh, you're gonna
get a one, two and one too mean, too hard
slaps on her butt. She told everybody that on Instagram
already though. But no, the thing about it is the
discipline they don't have in the beginning, and to.

Speaker 12 (01:50:04):
Try to now, that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
Queen Terry. Think about a time when, at least for
my family, my mother used to look at me and
I know, to get go to send my butt down somewhere,
because I didn't know whatever she could, whatever she could
put her head hand on at that time was coming
toward my head and.

Speaker 12 (01:50:28):
With a little hand that was like a cinder block.
So I wasn't playing with her.

Speaker 11 (01:50:33):
I would she say no, even if I thought the
answer was no, I did what you know you thought
you were going to do.

Speaker 12 (01:50:39):
These kids don't have that now. And if you use
something like that, they use something like it's an abuse.
Then you know.

Speaker 3 (01:50:47):
Yeah, but look, look when we was in school, we
used to have to get swaps. When I was in
junior high school, you know, we did something in school.
We'd have to go to the pe teacher gym teacher,
and he'd get out the paddle and he'd take you.
But then when we got home, guess what, we'll get
that butt tore up again when we went to school

(01:51:07):
the next day. They didn't have no issue out of us.
Problems started beginning when they started taking discipline out of
the schools. When they started taking discipline out of the home,
beat you child's butter and home, like you said, they
can start hollering abuse.

Speaker 2 (01:51:24):
Yeah and yeah, I used to.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
I used to tell my kids, okay, well, if you'd
rather go be in a foster, come and so be it.
But you're gonna follow my rules and regulation here because
that's how I was raised, you know. But society did that.
They took the discipline away from the parents. And I
need to tell my kids, what would you rather have
me beat your butt or would you rather the police
kill you? Because that's what's neaket.

Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:51:47):
If you don't discipline your children at home, then the
next thing they go to, they get out there and
the police are kill them. They ain't gonna play well,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:51:57):
Okay, speaking of discipline, let's get let's talk about Jason
for a minute, because he needs to be disciplined.

Speaker 12 (01:52:04):
Who needs you say you need to be disciplined?

Speaker 4 (01:52:08):
Yes, yes, Jason. But I want to start though.

Speaker 1 (01:52:13):
I want to start with Jason though is uh, you know,
like I said, he needs discipline everything. And but you
know when I would text the flyer to people or
when we had him on the on the call before
and I would send to people, they said, they kept
asking me, is that Vanilla Ice? I said, I said, no,
it's Justin Timerlate. I said, Justin Timerlake and Eminem had

(01:52:36):
a baby.

Speaker 4 (01:52:37):
That's who he is.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
So tell us how how you and tell us how
you and Jason hooked up Lamont and and and what
has Jason meant to being a part of your company.

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
Uh, well, let's see what I talking about another hour
and a half about mister Bobbs. He's actually a breath
of a breath of fresh air. And I say that
I havn't dealt with so many artists over the years,
and being one myself, I've become you know, I just
got a problem with cats that that I guess it

(01:53:15):
is over egotistical because they become a bad investment. You know,
it's hard enough to invest in yourself, time and energy
in yourself, but to do that in another person, you know,
and especially the way times are today, you know, loyalty
is uh, it's it's, it's it's. It's a word that

(01:53:37):
people don't use too often and they don't really know
what it is. I mean, there's nothing you can do
in this music industry or any entertainment industry right now
without a team. You need a team. There's there's nothing
that you could do in this business by yourself. And
a lot of times when you come and put together
a team, everybody's not always pulled in the same way.

(01:53:57):
You know, everybody's not pulling the same way. Everybody got
their own agenda. Even though they lie, they say that
they with you, but they really not with you. They
with theirself, They're not with you or the team effort.
So to to to find the artists that has really
been through some things, and you really have to go
through some things yourself to come full circle to appreciate

(01:54:23):
a team, you know what I mean, You just have
to go through the motherly things, you know. But since
I've been working with mister Vrons he's a super talented
young man. Uh, his head's in the right place. I
see nothing but great things for him, and I'm not
sure Herman does too, even though you know he talked

(01:54:45):
to all of us crazy. Yeah, uh you know this
is and more, Yeah it is, you know. And I
have to tell him about itself every other day. But
he know I love him. And he's one of those
guys that you could be mad at for by ten minutes.
But if you know his heart, you know that's done anyway.

(01:55:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, he's a jewel. He's one of the time.
But but back the back to the back to Jason.
You know, I've dealt with so many artists over the years, man,
and I keep going back to the thing that that
that Quincy told me about that ego thing. Man, if
you started, if you know more than me, and you

(01:55:27):
could do more than me than you don't need to
be with me. You know, I can't if you can't
tell if I can't tell you nothing what, I'm not
gonna waste my time. Man, I'm got too old for that.
I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel. I'm not trying
to make nobody do nothing they don't want to do,
you know. So I start out my my whole thing
with artists nowadays. I asked him, who are they? What

(01:55:49):
do they want to do?

Speaker 6 (01:55:50):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:55:50):
And it's important that you see that their their their dreams,
and their mission aligns with yours, because if it don't
align with yours, then you guys really kind of waste
each other's time. You know, it's gonna be a crash
of dead in at some point, you know, and I mean,
who who wants that? At some point? Man? Time is

(01:56:12):
the only thing in life that we can't put back.
We can put money back, exactly, cars and toys back,
we can put all that stuff back. But after today's done, gentlemen,
you ain't gonna never see the day again never, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:56:25):
I want to say that with Leamont, you know, we
did two tours together if I can remember. And new
Birth it was like on stage was twelve or thirteen
of y'all on stage at one time? Okay, right, we
carried you know, we carried eight because you know, we
sing group and carried eight pieces behind us. But new

(01:56:48):
Birth was again twelve, thirteen, fourteen to fifteen y'all. And
you know, so that first tour we did with y'all again,
what was us and y'all and old Jays and dramaic
talking about moving one hundred people, you know, from one
city to next. And we all had to work as
a team, even though we're in different groups. We had

(01:57:08):
to work as a team. And then that last gig
we did together, if I remember right, we was all
at the Kansas City Royal Stadium. It was y'all us,
count Basie, Isley Brothers, Ohio players, BB King, cannon Ball, Adeleie,
Freddy Hubbard and yeah, right because I met because somebody

(01:57:35):
I remember that because again some about the jazz vessevals
used to do. And I was looking at the lineup.
This is not too long ago, and I said, yeah,
well wait a minute, that's how come I basically remember
the lineup. But my point is is that we all
moved as a team, okay, as a group, even though
we were in different groups, and we all respected each

(01:57:57):
other's you know abilities, you know, uh you know, and
and we didn't you know, back on one another whatever.
And in fact, there's a movie out lamont on Us
called The sax Man, all right, and there is a sack.
There's a part in there. I think it's you and

(01:58:19):
Baker are sitting in the dug out as we're walking
in at that stadium. Yeah, it's it's it's on. You
can get on on TB or whatever. But that's this
is the gig I'm talking about. And you can see Baker,
what was the y'all's manager, and I think you're in
that shot. Okay, But my point is is that we
all moved together. And just like with mac Mike and

(01:58:39):
the dass Man, we all moved together. Okay, Yeah, the
sax man Jason uh uh uh. And I'll bring up
and put the trailer in the video. We'll get through
so what he's talking about. And then also too we
you know, it's old saying it takes a neighborhood to
raise a child, you know. And and if I was

(01:59:00):
up to Lamon's house playing and I was acting up,
missus Patter's gonna call down, say miss Wilson, you know
John's up here acting up, And my mother say, well,
miss Patterson, you tear him up up there, and we'll
tear him up when he gets down here. You know
what happened, And that's what's missing the point absolutely. But
he's carrying his you know, you know, his saxophone. When

(01:59:21):
I first started playing I'm carrying my trumpet through the
snow and everything. But it was still you know, a
neighborhood and still camaraderie and just like you said, getting
them swats, you know. And in fact, when I was
when I got to theory, when I got to college
and I was taking theory down to try and see, uh,
our teacher would lock us in. He didn't care if

(01:59:42):
we had a class, you know, the next class we're
doing doctor Cumberover. I never get. He would lock us in.
And if we didn't finish our assignment, he didn't care.
That's what's missing today, you know, that's what's missing today.

Speaker 3 (01:59:56):
So well, hopefully at some point, you know, we'll get
in a position where we could actually put I don't know,
I keep going back to society. Man, when they started
taking music programs out of school. You remember, we used
to have instruments at school and you sign a note
and you get your past and and we had that, man,

(02:00:17):
But I watched them take all their music programs out
of school. And if you didn't come from upper Mobile family,
you didn't have an instrument. If your family wasn't musically applyed,
you didn't get it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:33):
Well, Church, I had I have.

Speaker 7 (02:00:36):
To say, my mother and father could not afford to
buy me a trumpet. You know, I played those old
beat up school horns man and then man again, little
tears betting recommended. When I graduated from from high school,
my father saved enough money to buy me a trumpet,
which I still have to this day.

Speaker 2 (02:00:56):
You know.

Speaker 7 (02:00:56):
But we played beat up horns and beat up instruments.
But we made the best out of it. You know,
we made the best out like you know, you know
La Manti playing the sacks, you know, to beat up
corks and everything. You had to pay and make your
own reads and all that kind of stuff. I'm playing,
you know, three seed mouthpieces when I'm a four seat.
But hey, we made the best out of what we did.

(02:01:18):
But that's gone because when you picked up an instrument,
not only did you learn that, you know, to play
the music, you learned to count because you got to
count measures and bars, you know. You know, you even
learned a little bit of different language because you gotta
know a leggro, a dante, you know, you know, so
you're even picking up a little language there.

Speaker 8 (02:01:37):
Oh yeah, little two turntables took us out, man. I
mean it's like you can hire a DJ, give them
one hundred dollars and stuff five hundred dollars to the band.

Speaker 3 (02:01:47):
Yeah, yeah, you remember, I was, I was. I was
just thinking about the saxophone days where uh me and
Algie Johnson. I don't know if you guys remember all
from Side Effect. Yeah, she she had the side effect.

(02:02:07):
You know, Mickey Howard came out of Side Effect. But
all you and I went band together. Man, we used
to sit up there and mess up so many horns
by playing on milk and the bells and ship. This
is doing dumb stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:02:19):
But we was.

Speaker 3 (02:02:20):
We was really trying to going to really more of
the singing stuff at that point instead of just playing
a horn because we have we had Cold Train and
uh we had Masio Parker the horny horns, but we
didn't have Kenny g We We didn't we we didn't
have that, you know what I'm saying. So Junior Walker, Junior.

Speaker 7 (02:02:40):
Walker, you know, Queen Curtis, King King Curtis.

Speaker 3 (02:02:44):
Absolutely we just had this straight aheads as catch.

Speaker 2 (02:02:47):
Man, you're right, but but all.

Speaker 3 (02:02:52):
Yeah, I miss, I missed.

Speaker 7 (02:02:54):
I was with, I was with all the two days
before he passed. I was at that at the picnic.
It was me, him, Me and him and Charles Wright
was all together, Wally Broker. We was all together and
Charles right, we was all together. I got pictures and like, man,
you know, I put myselff in.

Speaker 2 (02:03:16):
Had him on the show.

Speaker 7 (02:03:18):
But my point is is that, you know, like I
was saying this, all guys with him two days before
he passed, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:03:24):
Yeah, but we we went through all through school together again.
And he had a car a little bit before I did.
It was like six months older than me.

Speaker 6 (02:03:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:03:34):
I try to get I try to get August go
out with the Temptations man. And he wouldn't go because
he wanted to do uh you didn't want to do
side effect?

Speaker 7 (02:03:43):
Yeah, yeah l A R.

Speaker 3 (02:03:46):
Yeah yeah. He had the boxers, you know, and I
told and I told all guys said, man, go out
with the Temps for a while. Man, I mean that's
the legacy, man, you could you could have that and
then you could come back and do side effect.

Speaker 7 (02:03:59):
But he wouldn't go.

Speaker 3 (02:04:01):
He wouldn't go. So he did try to figure he
did all right because he came out with you know,
always there and keep the same old feeling, and uh
it turned out all right.

Speaker 2 (02:04:11):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:04:12):
You know, uh, Toy. I still talk to Toy because
she's like my niece, you know, his daughter. Yeah, I
haven't talked to Mickey in a minute.

Speaker 7 (02:04:21):
I talked to you and Nicholas listens a shop now.

Speaker 3 (02:04:26):
Yeah, but I thought about the contact with Mickey lately,
you know. Matter of fact, we do one of my
shows too. To open up for one of my shows,
she's on Instagram. Yeah, I know, I know, I know.
I just haven't got around to it, you know, but
but I will at some point, you know what I mean.
I let everybody do their thing, you know, but I'll
get around to it.

Speaker 7 (02:04:47):
I cut some tracks on him and she she's she's
really you know a lot of people. Mickey is probably
one of the greatest artists I've ever worked with. Everything
basically is one one one take with her.

Speaker 3 (02:04:59):
Yeah, she's always been good.

Speaker 7 (02:05:01):
Yeah, she's awesome man, and a beautiful person, a beautiful spirit.

Speaker 6 (02:05:04):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:05:05):
He's like, you know, she's like, I go way up.

Speaker 3 (02:05:08):
I go way back with her. Before the kids was
even born.

Speaker 4 (02:05:11):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (02:05:12):
I used to have put Nicholas on my lap. He
was like three, wund corner and she's holding Brandon and
singing in the bike.

Speaker 8 (02:05:21):
Yeah sweetheart, man, yeah's sweet.

Speaker 6 (02:05:27):
You know what's crazy about how y'all talking and and
and I mean it's.

Speaker 10 (02:05:31):
Not crazy and not being crazy like outrageous or nothing
like that. What I mean by crazy is, you know,
because when y'all went to school, music was abundant. You know,
they had music in school. I was in the era
that watched it die, and I was mad at it
because I watched them kill the music classes. And they
killed the music classes. I remember a teacher said, uh,

(02:05:55):
you know, one of them hateful teachers. It was a
hateful teacher because I already knew he was, and he
already he had said, they need to get rid of
music so y'all won't have no talent. And I, you know,
I'm young, so I'm not really comprehending what he's saying.
You know, I'm young. I hear you saying it, but
I'm not really getting what you're talking about, because I'm like, man,

(02:06:19):
you know, you you old. You don't probably do nothing anyway.
You ain't even in the music because you teach math
or something. And I watched them just kill it, and
it was like they took it away from us. They
took all the instruments out of school. Then they deterred
the kids from even playing instruments because kids, you know,

(02:06:40):
it's like they killed the culture of that, so we
wouldn't get another Funk Brothers or we won't get another
These brothers don't exist no more, or like y'all, they
don't exist no more because they wanted to kill that.
And did you our generation, the next generation with the
turntables in the DJs, because it was easy to do that.

(02:07:01):
And it's still a talent, don't get me wrong, it's
a talent for some of these d days because they
can put stuff together. They're not producers, but they can
put stuff together and make it's an intellectrical intellectual property
that they do with the music. But it's just not
the same as playing music. And a lot of these
cats don't play music. They only play, you know, the

(02:07:24):
twelve notes in music they think it is. There is
no half step in music no more. There's just one
beat through the whole thing. There's no branches there. You know,
I watched it die and it's still people bringing it back.
But it's still not enough of the older cats because
you know, everybody mad at everybody and I'm not saying

(02:07:44):
that y'all are. I'm just saying everybody mad at everybody,
and nobody wants to sit down and listen to nobody.
So it's a whole bunch of rooms talking, but ain't
nobody listening.

Speaker 3 (02:07:55):
But what they do, What did they do when they
took out the music, They gave y'all computers. And when
they gave y'all computers, guess what, people learn how to stamp,
so they didn't have to go learn how to play.
They didn't have to go learn how to read music
because they learned.

Speaker 2 (02:08:08):
How to sun.

Speaker 8 (02:08:13):
They go with the computer.

Speaker 3 (02:08:15):
So when the computers jumped in there, you know what
I'm saying, they like, Okay, y'all don't need to learn
how to play these music musical instruments. We want y'all
to learn how to work on these computers. So when
the computers started kicking in, guess what. Then they started
learning how to sample stuff, so they really didn't have
to come back. You know, the larger colleges, you know,
they had music programs and they had marching bands, but

(02:08:38):
not from the not from the elementary of the junior
high school. I don't even know if they even call
it that anymore. But from the elementary and junior high
to the high school level, those three steps where we member,
where we where we had, like I said, beginning instrument,
you know where we learned, where we had uh, you know,

(02:08:59):
harmony class. This is what we had to learn that
we had chorus acquired, we had those things that they
that they took out, these took away. Man. So no,
it's crazy.

Speaker 6 (02:09:12):
They know how to kill us from the inside, and
we wasn't smart enough.

Speaker 10 (02:09:16):
To see what they was doing. We just went along
with the status quo. You know what I'm saying, The
basics is always going to be the basics. To me,
I don't care what you rename it to. I don't
care what you say. The basics is the basics. It
don't change just because you put a new name on it.
It don't mean that you just put a name on it.
It's still the same thing. And I think a lot
of people get caught up into that because you know,

(02:09:39):
all the kids want the latest and greatest.

Speaker 6 (02:09:41):
They don't know how to to. They don't know.

Speaker 10 (02:09:44):
We live in a microwave society, so they don't know how.
And even with the microwave society, they even faster than that.
They don't even let the food cook the food, say
five minutes, they won't. They want to take it out
in two minutes.

Speaker 5 (02:09:59):
I can say that not kids, because I was fortunate
enough to grow up in the Bay Area, and I
met a man named Keith Martin and rest in peace
because he's not alonger with us. And if you look
him up, he was discovered by boys to men and
they put him on Columbia Roughhouse. And he taught me
how important it was that to make a demo into
an actual hit, you had to have real instruments on it.

(02:10:21):
So I feel you, but you know, at the same time,
I'm a positive kind of person, and so I always
want to look to the future and how can we
make it better. Actually, a lot of this discussion we're
happening right now is part of how we make it better,
you know, part of all the social media like push
to always be putting out content that a lot of
times is so curated it's not real. It's part of

(02:10:43):
the problem. Like you know what LP was saying, They
have you on the computers so that now you're sampling.
But if we make it clear that this music is
so much better when you got live, porns when you
got live, and I played a lot of most of
the money I made, like someone said earlier, you know,
they pay a DJ, you know, one hundred bucks hundred
fifteen and set five hundred for the band. I mean, luckily,
I was in some touring bands that did international music

(02:11:06):
fifteen pieces, and man, there's no better music than that,
you know. So I just want to pull out a
little positivity and say that, at least for me, you know,
I grew up understanding how important those live instruments were.
Keith got me into understanding notation. You know, I played
a little bit of keys. I'm just not as good
as most of the people around me. So I usually
I just I stay in my lane, you know, I

(02:11:27):
write hits. But but yeah, on a positive note, I
think we.

Speaker 3 (02:11:30):
Can change it.

Speaker 5 (02:11:31):
I don't think that social media is a is a
is a good thing when it comes to what it's doing,
But we can actually use it as a tool to
make people care about the right things. Again, anyway, that's
too much philosophy, I know.

Speaker 6 (02:11:44):
But I mean, I give you I'm not I'm not.

Speaker 10 (02:11:47):
Don't get me wrong, I'm not negative on none of
this because I just came like you came from the bait.
I came from Cleveland. So it's just two different situations
that you live in that you show you the difference.
Not negative at all, because I want to make sure
that they understand it. But I'm gonna be the dude.
I'm gonna be the dude on the other side say

(02:12:08):
but remember this now.

Speaker 6 (02:12:10):
Because they forget so quickly to what they need to
do and that and that's just me.

Speaker 10 (02:12:17):
I'm not negative about it. I'm just pointing it out
a fact because I want them to see them move positive.
I want to see them grow. I want to see
him move on. But if you don't know where you
came from and understand where you came from, how you
gonna get there? You never gonna get there. So I
just want to put them in the lank because I
see a lot of these young kids.

Speaker 6 (02:12:39):
They want to do it. When you get them by theyself,
they want to do it.

Speaker 10 (02:12:43):
But when they with a group of people, it's hard
to talk to them because they trying to impress.

Speaker 6 (02:12:49):
The people they around. And that's that's the problem.

Speaker 10 (02:12:53):
That's always been the problem. They want to do what
everybody else is doing, and nobody.

Speaker 6 (02:12:59):
Stands out, and then the ones that stands out, they
quickly call him corny. How's they corny?

Speaker 8 (02:13:06):
Because if you get good, if you got good parents,
and uh, they buy you an instrument and put you
into a class, you know, pay for your classes, and
then you can go to a private school. They never
stop teaching music in the private schools in a Jewish school,
only only the public school.

Speaker 1 (02:13:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:13:27):
So so your mother put you in church with the
new guitar she brought you, and the lessons, and Whila's.

Speaker 5 (02:13:36):
Got a lot of instruments in there.

Speaker 8 (02:13:37):
You know, it's ways to beat it, it's ways to
get around it.

Speaker 6 (02:13:41):
Just you know, I just got to convince you that
I'm talking about the kids. I ain't talking about you.
I'm saying I got to convince you there's a better way.

Speaker 10 (02:13:49):
And I'm petty enough to know how to manipulate you
to make you do what I know you should do,
because I see the potential in you.

Speaker 6 (02:13:57):
You don't see it, but I see it.

Speaker 10 (02:14:00):
As an older adult, I should be able to manipulate
you to move you so you can move the right way.

Speaker 8 (02:14:06):
Oh yeah, you gotta want to do it by music books,
stay around music study. That's how you do it right?

Speaker 6 (02:14:15):
I got you the idea a young kid.

Speaker 10 (02:14:18):
I got to give you the idea to let you
think that you created that idea because you're doing that.

Speaker 4 (02:14:24):
Got to hand up again? Is your mama time cool?
Tell she give your mam.

Speaker 6 (02:14:28):
Okay, and let me just clear this up because this
ain't my real mama.

Speaker 10 (02:14:31):
So y'all won't think that you know what I'm saying
because my depth don't don't be This is my extended mama.
Just like Kerman need a butt whooping, but you know
they can't whop older adults because that would be abuse.

Speaker 3 (02:14:42):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:14:46):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:14:46):
I hit guys with glasses though, so I don't know
why that would be you. You must have been a bully, No,
I must. I must have grown I was growing up
around bullies.

Speaker 8 (02:14:57):
So you are like like nerds, a nerd to water glass.

Speaker 1 (02:15:01):
If you look at Michael, you look at all the
titles of all these shows. Cannot play a play, this,
that and the other about players and all of that.
I mean, come on now, it's three things I read
got to do with players. And you know, guys, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:15:18):
Ahead what you fail to realize term and their levels
of players like theirs levels and life.

Speaker 4 (02:15:26):
It depends. But you're talking so smooth. We can't even
hear you talk half the time.

Speaker 3 (02:15:34):
You know.

Speaker 11 (02:15:35):
One thing I do want to say about this younger generation,
don't underestimate them because a lot of them have gone
to college and they've been educated in music and they
can read music. They just don't have the opportunity to
use it because I guess it doesn't seem uh in
their in their lane that they go in. But a
lot of them are more intelligent than you know, and

(02:15:55):
you don't know it until you get them by themselves
or get them an interview and you they open up
to you, you know, but they don't get they're not
given the opportunity to do that thing unless they're at
the highest level, higher level of promoting and corporate and
things like that. And they those are the ones that
we that I want to embrace to be able to

(02:16:19):
bring the other ones in because that's inspiring to some
of them because it'd be amazed, like you could read
that you could do.

Speaker 12 (02:16:24):
That or you know that. Then then they know they
have to learn what independent artists entails, because all of
them want to be independent. Like a lot of people.

Speaker 11 (02:16:35):
They don't want to work for nobody and work for
theirself and all that kind of stuff going on. But
you have to learn somewhere, and you have to learn
from somewhere, you know. And hearing Jason, you know, talk
about it is refreshing to me, Thank you, because you know,
I hear a lot of oh gez original, I want
to say, original gangsters talk about this and talk about

(02:16:57):
their legacy and talk about teaching, but they don't do
it in a sense that you do.

Speaker 12 (02:17:03):
It, Lamar. They do it and just working their lips
and that's not enough, right, follow up something that goes
to that.

Speaker 2 (02:17:13):
You know.

Speaker 11 (02:17:13):
I've heard a lot of them say that they're gonna
take it further and they're gonna do things, but when
it's time to put the you know, pedal to the metal,
there in the back seat, you know, and they shouldn't be.
But a lot of these young kids, you know, don't
underestimate them because they got it, but they have to
get it through something that they can relate to, you know.

(02:17:36):
You know, that's that's just my nickel in that dime.
Because I appreciate Jason coming in. He's fortunate to have
you and to have had mentors that wanted to teach
him some value in this industry.

Speaker 3 (02:17:48):
Amen.

Speaker 12 (02:17:49):
So you can get so you can get so sidetracked.

Speaker 11 (02:17:51):
I've seen it, you know, being a fan first, you know,
and being here in DC we had Howard Theater when
all the greats came through, you know, how addiction and
different things took took a lead over their talent and
they got you, you know, and a lot of that's changed,
you know. And you know, and I think that us

(02:18:14):
talking about it or me listening about listening to it,
and there's nothing that comes to fruition is useless.

Speaker 9 (02:18:23):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:18:23):
We all say what's wrong, But what's the solution? What's
the real solution?

Speaker 11 (02:18:28):
And once you do and we have solutions in this room,
but very few people interact or take action.

Speaker 12 (02:18:37):
And that's that's like I used to say, you know,
that's what I got to say.

Speaker 8 (02:18:40):
That's my store, your part.

Speaker 3 (02:18:47):
I approved this message.

Speaker 5 (02:18:51):
That what queen is talking about. Elpie, the man that's
on this call, I invited, Uh, that's DJ ground Beef.
We do a thing every year it's called National Night
Out well either and I'm just fortunate enough to be
invited as one of the performers. Maybe LPU, and I
could do something along the lines of like showing how
important I don't know. Could we get some live instrumentalists
so that they don't always see, you know, people like

(02:19:13):
me performing the track with just a few dancers, just
to throw it out there. Just something popped in my head, you.

Speaker 11 (02:19:17):
Know, all right, all right, if I'm allowed to be included,
I'd be the I guess, the only female og in
it in the LA area.

Speaker 5 (02:19:26):
I'm in DC, oh DC, okay, yeah, yeah. Well they
do National Night Out because you know, national, and it's
to support our law enforcement, firefighters, schools.

Speaker 12 (02:19:35):
That could always be a part of it virtually, you know, Yeah,
that'd be cool.

Speaker 4 (02:19:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:19:40):
I mean, my man right there, DJ ground Beef he
is one one of the organizers for that in Florence Henderson.
I'm sorry, Florence, Yo Beef, can you speak up anyway
for like downtown LA that area And that's usually I've
done it for three years now, right, yeah. So, and
they do giveaways for the children and and it's pretty weird.

(02:20:01):
I have to say this because I actually put it
on a social media post and you're gonna love it.
Is that it's the only time you want to be
surrounded by that many police.

Speaker 12 (02:20:08):
Officers cause for me to want to be surrounded by them.

Speaker 4 (02:20:17):
Pols. A player can't play in.

Speaker 2 (02:20:21):
You got.

Speaker 3 (02:20:28):
I was just sending correct coming on that. Who else
you know that could arrest somebody and don't go to
jail themselves? Know what I'm saying. I tell everybody people
to create the game, also creating the rules.

Speaker 1 (02:20:47):
To d J Chill had just jumped on here too.
Here's the largest music platform on the Clubhouse app. You know,
so every Monday and Wednesday eight o'clock Chill DJ, Friday,
Saturday till o'clock, Whipping Baby, Whipping.

Speaker 12 (02:21:03):
Friday, Freestyle Friday, Friday.

Speaker 1 (02:21:06):
Friday, it's freestyle Friday.

Speaker 4 (02:21:11):
If he's not pissed off that day, then it's gonna
be talking.

Speaker 3 (02:21:17):
Is he related to you? What I was asking was
he related to Kerman?

Speaker 2 (02:21:25):
Who?

Speaker 3 (02:21:30):
Now I heard somebody I heard. I think I heard
my say he played music unless he pissed off and
then he talks about people. So I thought that might
be I thought that might have been Kerman.

Speaker 6 (02:21:44):
Yeah, that's gonna they get a lot of butt whoopings.
When he was little.

Speaker 1 (02:21:50):
Also did Queen Karence Logan for a pet party to
hit his wife.

Speaker 12 (02:21:58):
All right, but he got a good thing. You know,
he's a bad mixed ologist. He's the mixed master.

Speaker 11 (02:22:05):
You know, he does a lot of good things on
that freestyle Friday start at ten o'clock and he go
to whenever he gets tied and.

Speaker 4 (02:22:18):
Who's time to go to bed? That's when he stopped.

Speaker 2 (02:22:21):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (02:22:22):
As soon as the paper start running in the morning,
he'd be like, all right, y'all, let's shut it down,
Like already go to bed.

Speaker 6 (02:22:29):
I got that. I might as well just get up
and just go where I'm going anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:22:36):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:22:36):
Okay, Well, I'm gonna play this hit Shingle, But I
want to ask Jason or the mount of question. Okay, Jason,
you already had a number one record on Digital Radio Tracker,
You've already been at Billboard magazine.

Speaker 4 (02:22:50):
What's next for you?

Speaker 5 (02:22:52):
Well, i'd like to be on Digital Radio Tracker number
one for twenty weeks.

Speaker 4 (02:22:57):
That's not gonna happen. They changed, you know, you as.

Speaker 5 (02:23:01):
I would like to tour the world though, and do
some of this stuff that we talked about with positivity.
I got a song out there called a Better World,
which we still haven't shot. The video for but it
gets a lot of good reception because it really you
listen to the first line, and it's all about it
always starts with just one person. So if if one
person does the right thing and then the next person
does the right thing weekend, change the world, you know,

(02:23:21):
to make it a better world. So I'd love to
tour the world on the strength of that.

Speaker 1 (02:23:26):
Actually, now you can only be number one for five
weeks and the last person that was Warren g and
Tiy dollars sign why would have been five weeks, but
those K pop guys knocked out for one week.

Speaker 3 (02:23:41):
Guys, Yeah, k pop will gets you all right now?

Speaker 12 (02:23:49):
Hey Jason, Yeah, what y'all doing with AI? I know
you're doing all that automation and I see that.

Speaker 5 (02:24:05):
Come and getting girl?

Speaker 3 (02:24:10):
Where'd you get a girl?

Speaker 9 (02:24:11):
Come and get a girl?

Speaker 5 (02:24:13):
And up and stop and let's get dropped and normal.

Speaker 6 (02:24:16):
Just show me how you made lotus and escalade.

Speaker 5 (02:24:19):
I want to drive it and roll beside it.

Speaker 9 (02:24:20):
Your body can't carry it. You can't get too fagging
an ordination for.

Speaker 13 (02:24:33):
I know when I get you, I love it when
everybody goes right to left to get you out of mad,
get you out of bath.

Speaker 9 (02:24:52):
With your succes.

Speaker 5 (02:24:53):
By day mont them on the.

Speaker 14 (02:24:56):
Floor, which success, by day long, Get the bad Moody
on the floor.

Speaker 9 (02:25:02):
I'll get you out of breath. What's the player on?
Bring some friends along.

Speaker 5 (02:25:07):
I got that.

Speaker 9 (02:25:07):
This my lab, so nowhere we can go upstairs. Baby,
I'm down the sheaf. I show my talents. You show
your talents.

Speaker 6 (02:25:14):
Come on, say.

Speaker 9 (02:25:16):
Can't plate it.

Speaker 13 (02:25:18):
You can't get too faded because I've got some moods
that needs your go open, send the gate.

Speaker 9 (02:25:27):
I love when I get you out of breath.

Speaker 7 (02:25:30):
I love it when everybody goes right to left.

Speaker 9 (02:25:38):
I'll get you out of bo.

Speaker 15 (02:25:44):
Get you out of breath with just exact fat take along,
Get the bad moody on the floor, right alm, just exam, golong,
get the bad moody blow.

Speaker 9 (02:25:56):
I'll get you out of breath.

Speaker 5 (02:26:03):
You love it well, I get you out of breath.

Speaker 9 (02:26:06):
I love it where everybody goes right the left, get
you out of breathom, get you out of breath.

Speaker 15 (02:26:22):
Just exam five day, come bong.

Speaker 9 (02:26:24):
Get them mad moody goes up floor.

Speaker 8 (02:26:28):
Just example.

Speaker 14 (02:26:29):
By day along, get the bad Moody goes up bloor.
Get you out of problem, Get you out of Breathom
I'll get you out of Breath.

Speaker 1 (02:26:47):
There's two minutes and fifty seconds of Jason Vox's new
hit song out of Breath.

Speaker 3 (02:26:53):
I got a like.

Speaker 4 (02:26:54):
I got a phone call from alisted number.

Speaker 1 (02:26:58):
Gotta dance hall that heard this song and they said
the favorite lyric They like this, somebody call him from
prison or jail.

Speaker 4 (02:27:07):
It's favorite, like the part about.

Speaker 8 (02:27:12):
Right no Diddy noding like it when the right to left.

Speaker 4 (02:27:17):
They like that partner, you got it.

Speaker 6 (02:27:21):
You to bring that up, and they want to to
come to the jail.

Speaker 4 (02:27:25):
And perform that song.

Speaker 8 (02:27:26):
No baby, no baby oil, no Diddy no.

Speaker 3 (02:27:34):
Now we we now we know that Erman had to
come up with that because I don't think right, I
know because I didn't know Kerrman was in jail.

Speaker 4 (02:27:43):
Though, oh right, I shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (02:27:47):
You shouldn't.

Speaker 4 (02:27:48):
The phone call came from jail.

Speaker 3 (02:27:51):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (02:27:52):
You didn't tell us that you was dead.

Speaker 12 (02:27:55):
Ain't been to jail. He ain't been to jail. He'd
be a different man had he been to jail.

Speaker 8 (02:28:00):
You just want to visit, should be he'd be walking.

Speaker 12 (02:28:08):
None of that. I don't need none of that.

Speaker 10 (02:28:13):
Somebody gonna walk up to Kermit to be like, you're
gonna eat your comb bread.

Speaker 4 (02:28:22):
You ain't gonna getting no corn bread.

Speaker 8 (02:28:23):
You can have the chiplins, Kermit, don't drop that soap.

Speaker 3 (02:28:30):
I had to say, I had to say that line
in the movie.

Speaker 1 (02:28:33):
You know, I'm gonna be like this about saying he
didn't even take a shower because he was scared of
dropping herself.

Speaker 4 (02:28:39):
He didn't even take a shower.

Speaker 12 (02:28:41):
Oh, hold and let him take a shower if he's just.

Speaker 8 (02:28:47):
He said, he rather stank than get gets.

Speaker 6 (02:28:54):
He just took a shower, Kermit.

Speaker 10 (02:28:57):
Kermit probably would have hit one of them CEOs so
he get being put back in the dark room every
time he come out. They'd be like, you could come
out hit one of them guards to go right back here.

Speaker 6 (02:29:09):
You're like, okay.

Speaker 4 (02:29:12):
I was having a conversation with somebody the other day
and they were talking about, you know, like the.

Speaker 1 (02:29:16):
Fact that fifty cent is you know, saying he's going
to talk to the president about not partnering Diddy. Right,
So they was trying to say that, you know, fifty
cent is whatever snitch or something like that. I say, well,
I say, I've never heard anybody call fifty cent a snitch.
They may do it, but I never really heard nobody's
say that you know about him? You know, but they
said about this guy on Clubhouse all the time, but

(02:29:38):
they have him said about fifty cents just on you do,
like how you how you viewed some people or whatever,
and then somebody sent me something about what they said.

Speaker 4 (02:29:47):
Well, Rick Ross called him a snitch.

Speaker 1 (02:29:50):
I'm like, well, okay, now I say Rick Ross even
though I respect him and I appreciate the plaque I
got from him, but if you look at the Rick
Ross arguments where people it's like he's a I'm you know,
correction officer. He stole freeway Rick Ross's name. So if
you look at those attributes, then you know you'd be saying, well,

(02:30:11):
who would listen to him? If you look at that
per se well, first.

Speaker 3 (02:30:16):
Of all, term but you need to understand, uh and
I don't know who don't understand. First of all, Trump
is not going to pass up fifty million dollars to
let P Diddy get out. Y'all need to understand that
it's not like some other people that we may may
may know that gout two three million two.

Speaker 8 (02:30:37):
Right right right, right right, But ain't no way ain't
no way.

Speaker 3 (02:30:40):
On, guys, or Trump is not going to take that
fifty million plus because you already know that he offered
that for his bail. He already know that he already
offered that. And he's the only man that couldn't get
a bail. And when the plus we know, we got
guys that got thirty four plus sellon. He's running the
highest office in the land. But why is a man

(02:31:01):
that offering fifty million dollars can't get a bell? And
they gonna tell some dumb Americans right, well, he's a
flight risk, questioning this man be recognized, right, Uh, they
gonna say some dumb shit like that, right, and then
like a fifty million. Now, that man is not gonna
lead that fifty million on the table because he already

(02:31:21):
offered it. He knows that, So he's gonna take that.
And he may even he may even up it up
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (02:31:27):
He may ask I just I just took us off
YouTube so we can just talk, right.

Speaker 1 (02:31:32):
But at the end of that, I mean, why would
he take fifty million when he already offered that, Like
you said, it has to be a minimumize. The next
thing is why does Trump even need any money. Why
would he would he why would he have to not
pass on it. It's not like he needs the money.

Speaker 8 (02:31:47):
He wants it. Well, well, he not gonna pass on it, Greeny.

Speaker 3 (02:31:53):
Yeah, well he's always been that, you know, because he
might have a Trump Tower in Cleveland, Ohio. He ain't.
He ain't gonna pass on it because.

Speaker 6 (02:32:01):
He already knows that, right, you forgot.

Speaker 10 (02:32:05):
He just got a plane for a big old plane,
so he need gas money. I mean, he just got
a big who gives you a who gives you a plane.

Speaker 8 (02:32:18):
Because a billion to refurbish it.

Speaker 3 (02:32:21):
They take a billion to refurbish it.

Speaker 6 (02:32:23):
It don't even matter. They gave you a plane and.

Speaker 8 (02:32:27):
It's probably loaded with all kinds of bugs in there.

Speaker 12 (02:32:30):
He probably is. They hate Americans no matter what, big
time amen, you know, and he takes the gifts like
he got something.

Speaker 11 (02:32:38):
But they had on another channel, the Prince of King
or whatever he is Trumpet.

Speaker 12 (02:32:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, they already got Trump's.

Speaker 6 (02:32:50):
Number, so he can. Yeah, he just he disrespected that
that prince came on.

Speaker 8 (02:32:56):
He said so many ways, Trojan Horse, in so many ways.

Speaker 12 (02:33:03):
That's their news.

Speaker 11 (02:33:04):
I don't care nothing about it. That's that's where the
common sense really comes in, right, that's where the common
sense really comes. They got enough money to pay play
with anybody's life in the world. But that's where common
sense come in. They're gonna give him a plane and
he gonna stop. He's gonna stop riding, and uh, what's
that other thing air Force want or whatever it's called.

(02:33:25):
He's gonna stop riding. And what he knows is safe
from the United as safe as it can be from
the United States. That year, whenever they feel that they
tied it, you push a button and that thing go
up into a ball of smoke.

Speaker 3 (02:33:40):
Hey, while y'all while y'all playing, I want to I
want I want to charge the Secret Service to paying
in our own personal hotel, my own stuff while y'all playing.
That's what I want to do.

Speaker 8 (02:33:51):
I want to hear that.

Speaker 3 (02:33:52):
I want I want to double depth. You know, I
want to charge the government for playing for y'all staying
in my own place.

Speaker 2 (02:34:00):
That's what I want to hear.

Speaker 3 (02:34:03):
You go ahead, b oh, yeah, yeah, you know. And
and look, man, it's so crazy. I ain't really mad
at him, to be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (02:34:14):
I'm mad at the.

Speaker 3 (02:34:14):
Fool to let him do what he do how you
gonna be gad How are you gonna be mad at somebody?

Speaker 8 (02:34:20):
That's right, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 3 (02:34:22):
He can't be mad at somebody for one of their
program when they told you, I ain't gonna do it.
How you gonna be mad at him? You gotta be
mad at the fools, So then you do it mad.
I ain't mad at him at all, because that's privilege.

Speaker 6 (02:34:36):
He got to PRIs I'm still trying to figure out
how I can raise you.

Speaker 16 (02:34:43):
Fifty to President Trump his two cents. He wants Diddy
to stay in jail. He says he's going to contact
Trump to dissuade him from considering a pardon for Sean Diddy. Combs,
being battled. Rapper and producer is currently on trial for
federal sex trafficking and racketeering charges. Trump recently commented on
a possible Diddy pardon.

Speaker 8 (02:35:01):
Let's watch.

Speaker 17 (02:35:02):
Our country's doing really well because of what we're doing,
so I can't It's not a popularity contest, so I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:35:08):
I would certainly look at the facts.

Speaker 17 (02:35:11):
If I think somebody was mistreated, whether they like me
or don't like me, it wouldn't have any impact on me.

Speaker 18 (02:35:18):
Fifty cent slam Didty last week on Instagram. He's alleging
Diddy has said some really bad.

Speaker 6 (02:35:23):
Things about Trump.

Speaker 18 (02:35:24):
He also was trolling Ditty on X, writing, oh my goodness,
Dity Diddy, Diddy wants me dead.

Speaker 4 (02:35:28):
I have to lay low.

Speaker 18 (02:35:30):
I think I'm going to hide out at the playoff
game tonight.

Speaker 4 (02:35:33):
Lol.

Speaker 16 (02:35:33):
It all comes after the former CEO of Death Row
Record sug Nights, suggested earlier this week that Diddy would
receive a pardon if he's convicted.

Speaker 18 (02:35:41):
Okay, so, first of all, I don't think there was
anything wrong with what Trump said there. He said, well,
of course, I'll look at I'll look at any situation
Trump will. Trump never says no comment. He never says
I'm not you know, addressing what you're talking about. If
you say, mister Trump, you know what if aliens attack,
He'll give you his like, would you rule out using
new clear weapons against the Saturnanians if they attacked us?

(02:36:02):
Trump's gonna say no, I wouldn't rule it out.

Speaker 6 (02:36:04):
He doesn't. He doesn't do no comment.

Speaker 18 (02:36:06):
So the fact that he said he would look at
the Ditty situation does met not mean he would pardon Ditty.
And then He even said he doesn't he would pardon
any person if he thought they were treated unfairly regardless.

Speaker 16 (02:36:15):
True, I don't believe that, but okay, well you don't
have to believe it, but that's what he said.

Speaker 6 (02:36:18):
That's what he said.

Speaker 16 (02:36:19):
I don't think that everything says is not exactly as
it goes.

Speaker 5 (02:36:22):
Well, but you know what he said.

Speaker 18 (02:36:25):
Now, okay, I am going to express, however, a hot
take on the Didty trial itself. Okay, now that I
have paid more closer attention to it in the last
couple of weeks. My hot take is I don't think
they are proving he is guilty of sex trafficking whatsoever.
What he is guilty of is assault. He assaulted that woman.
We saw the video footage of him attack her, of

(02:36:47):
kicking her. He is absolutely guilty of assault. And if
he'd been charged with assault, I would have said, please
convict him.

Speaker 6 (02:36:53):
But he was not charged with assault.

Speaker 18 (02:36:55):
My understanding is that's because the statute of limitations made
that not something they could brought secute. So now they've
creatively come up with this confusing, confounding sex trafficking charge
that I don't think they're proving at all. So I
start to wonder, what is the point of this trial?

Speaker 3 (02:37:10):
Playing that? Why?

Speaker 6 (02:37:12):
He yeah, you know, awful brutal violence, playing that? Why assault?

Speaker 3 (02:37:19):
I was wondering why, I mean, why.

Speaker 9 (02:37:28):
Not?

Speaker 16 (02:37:28):
Shocking to me, it's strategy.

Speaker 8 (02:37:30):
You can't the state climart doing the show.

Speaker 5 (02:37:34):
I told Angela.

Speaker 16 (02:37:37):
That I spoke to somebody who's close to the Didy
trial and told me off the record that a conversations,
what are you doing that looks liked why somebody who
was criticized, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:37:57):
We didn't heard all this.

Speaker 2 (02:37:58):
What was the purpose? Yeah, what was it?

Speaker 4 (02:38:00):
Well?

Speaker 2 (02:38:00):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (02:38:01):
We all know negative publicity travels publicity in terms of
fifty So you're planning that need to.

Speaker 12 (02:38:08):
Get out and say something.

Speaker 1 (02:38:09):
Now, every time I play, every time I try to
play anything about that, he might get mad. I don't
know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (02:38:18):
I don't get mad about.

Speaker 6 (02:38:19):
It's just it's just the fact that you wanted to
play it. It's just a fact.

Speaker 3 (02:38:23):
And I don't want to want to I don't want
to keep missing my dinner to hear that old mess
man that doesn't mean to you or anybody.

Speaker 10 (02:38:31):
I'm I'm tired of hearing about rich people problems byway, Mike, this.

Speaker 12 (02:38:41):
Has been a wonderful call. And I don't care him
about Diddy.

Speaker 11 (02:38:45):
You know, whatever he is, he didn't just start to
be because they used to love him here and how
University till he came and try to take over the
dag on campus.

Speaker 8 (02:38:57):
As soon as he went a cross state lines. You
cannot pardon a state crime, just federal. You should know that.

Speaker 10 (02:39:06):
But it's just it's just it's just crazy how all
this is to be a double standard because it ain't
like it ain't been happening, and when it happened to
the non meldening people, it's a different.

Speaker 6 (02:39:16):
Hey, you know, made the wrong people man off somebody.

Speaker 12 (02:39:25):
That was that was all the things he did when
he messed with that deal.

Speaker 6 (02:39:32):
Then that was the what the.

Speaker 1 (02:39:35):
DJ ground beef with all that beautiful equipment got on
this profile. Look at that beautiful DJ equipment that.

Speaker 4 (02:39:41):
Got I saw it.

Speaker 12 (02:39:42):
I said, he didn't win somewhere.

Speaker 4 (02:39:47):
Everybody, thank you for coming here.

Speaker 1 (02:39:50):
And an hour so over time, right, so you you
definitely you're definitely pay it's not even nine o'clock of
the mind and it's not even not a carful of
mine and and and John and and and Brent and
and and Jason.

Speaker 4 (02:40:08):
It's not even nine o'clock for them.

Speaker 6 (02:40:11):
Oh yeah, that's right.

Speaker 8 (02:40:12):
We can't we.

Speaker 4 (02:40:14):
Time, well, we.

Speaker 3 (02:40:15):
Can't afford to miss the mill, but maybe you can't.

Speaker 6 (02:40:19):
Right, So he's saying you need to he said, his
name making curbing hungry.

Speaker 8 (02:40:27):
He's thinking about a smash burger, he said.

Speaker 4 (02:40:30):
Grabb Oh you beat that ground beef. Suth in the
callar go eat.

Speaker 3 (02:40:37):
What I said.

Speaker 4 (02:40:41):
But you known when he first came on. Ain't talking
about now when he first came on. Okay, hold on
a minute, he's.

Speaker 12 (02:40:50):
Doing he's doing the Michael j Ca See.

Speaker 3 (02:40:55):
I get that Onboudy.

Speaker 1 (02:40:57):
At least we know, at least we know who we
want to hire. We'll go out to UH to the
west coast with all the good equipment he got.

Speaker 6 (02:41:05):
Hey, DJ ground Beef. How did you get the name
DJ ground Beef?

Speaker 4 (02:41:09):
Someone made up?

Speaker 6 (02:41:13):
That's back in the day when they had the party line. Man,
I was just messing around, and it's stuff to me.

Speaker 10 (02:41:18):
That's true. Open, Yeah, he said ground beef. He ain't
sain't nothing about no hamburger.

Speaker 4 (02:41:24):
Help.

Speaker 6 (02:41:26):
I just gotta throw some ghetto this in it, right.

Speaker 3 (02:41:30):
They always they always think I'm selling me, man, I
don't see music on the side of the van.

Speaker 4 (02:41:34):
Ground got a Colin Wood stuff and that cool TLC.

Speaker 2 (02:41:39):
You know that.

Speaker 4 (02:41:39):
That's me.

Speaker 3 (02:41:40):
That's me being Colin with whatever life.

Speaker 6 (02:41:43):
Well, at least your name wasn't DJ Sirloin.

Speaker 2 (02:41:46):
Real you was.

Speaker 7 (02:41:49):
You went to Collinwood.

Speaker 8 (02:41:50):
Yes, I did, Man class seventy four.

Speaker 7 (02:41:54):
I won't hold that against you, but I don't remember.

Speaker 10 (02:41:59):
Yeah, he walked out the building. He ain't just graduated.
He just walked out the building.

Speaker 8 (02:42:02):
Was like, I'm not doing Ellie and went to color Wood.

Speaker 4 (02:42:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, see what did you go? I forgot.

Speaker 6 (02:42:10):
I was bussed. I was one of the one of
the kids that was bussed over to Marshall.

Speaker 8 (02:42:14):
I you were just special school.

Speaker 3 (02:42:17):
I would know.

Speaker 6 (02:42:17):
I ain't catch the bus like you did on the
yellow yellow bus. I ain't had that bus. You know
where y'all had the hold hands. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:42:25):
Remember, Rick, but my childn't having a kitchen on the
yellow busy always to and on.

Speaker 4 (02:42:41):
You can be cooking with your homies.

Speaker 3 (02:42:43):
Well see you man, you gotta understand I was a
normal crazy I wasn't a special Yes, tell him, tell
him little bit there's all.

Speaker 6 (02:42:57):
Y'all rode the cheese bun, no liquid win. So they
had to put that.

Speaker 3 (02:43:03):
Yeah, anybody, hey Michael. And then he had one of
the little white.

Speaker 6 (02:43:11):
Yeah yeah, he had the whole hands with the class.
He had the whole hands with the class going down.

Speaker 7 (02:43:20):
I'm gonna I'm gonna answer my one question, and you're
gonna answer answers to mine. You know, we're talking about
fashion and everything. One thing our new bird, you know,
all of us wore you know, and like you know
how we used to have different uniform Oh yeah, was
that you that wore the uniforms with the door knobs
on it?

Speaker 6 (02:43:41):
Who was that you?

Speaker 3 (02:43:42):
No?

Speaker 8 (02:43:43):
That was that was Alan's Fry.

Speaker 3 (02:43:45):
I think that was I think that was Fried.

Speaker 7 (02:43:48):
Okay, that of all the you know, and I still
stay out in my mind. I remember I said, wait
a minute, brother, got some door knobs.

Speaker 8 (02:43:58):
Knobs?

Speaker 3 (02:44:05):
That was. That was the time when entertainers looked like
entertainers on and off the stage. Veasy twenty four seven.
You could look at a brother at a car wash
and tell he was in the music these new cats man,
And you think about you look at the Grammys, you

(02:44:26):
look at some of these awards ceremonies. Man, they walking
in there, man like they just left their house with
their g.

Speaker 8 (02:44:34):
Rod out of the.

Speaker 3 (02:44:36):
Yeah, they didn't took the whole, the whole glitz and
glamour out of that.

Speaker 2 (02:44:40):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:44:40):
We all look at confunction looking on how players right
everybody was in that era. Man came out, We came
out shop man suits.

Speaker 8 (02:44:50):
We still have pried, We had pride and every Yeah, man.

Speaker 10 (02:44:54):
That he did, but he's got you forgotten the mine
I got on the Louis Time jogging pants bottom, so
that made me.

Speaker 6 (02:45:03):
That make me French.

Speaker 8 (02:45:06):
But but you said, but you sagging right, right.

Speaker 3 (02:45:09):
But we don't even talk about this, those sagging things
because most of the youngsters don't even know where sagging
come from.

Speaker 8 (02:45:22):
They don't know when when.

Speaker 3 (02:45:24):
When I asked him, I said, well you know where
sagging come from? They said yeah, yeah, yeah, it came
from jail house. I said, no it didn't.

Speaker 19 (02:45:30):
He said, yes, it did, yes it did. I said
no it didn't. They said, well where did sagging come from?
I said, well, you need to check your history. I said,
why don't you go get a book and google buck Breakers.

Speaker 3 (02:45:46):
The master Masters. You to soder mind. You know the
strong black guys in the front of the wife and kids.
And then they make them walk around with their pants
sagging so everybody know that they've been broken. And I said,
if these kids today a really embraced and understood their history,
they wouldn't do that.

Speaker 4 (02:46:05):
They wouldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (02:46:06):
I could understand it. And I told somebody this this
a couple of days ago. I was on this panel
up north. I said, I'd understand it. If they were
sagging in the front, Okay, I could go with it,
because I said, woman, one could say that brother right
there is really hung.

Speaker 2 (02:46:22):
I might.

Speaker 3 (02:46:25):
Joby when they but think about this, when you when
you sagging in the back, when you sagging like they sagging,
who are you advertising to a real man? I don't
want to see that. Yeah, don't want to see that, said,
I want to see that A sweet you want to

(02:46:47):
that's right. But like I said, I can understand.

Speaker 4 (02:46:50):
I could put my mind.

Speaker 3 (02:46:51):
I could say, oh way, the brother Shawn, he sang
in front, Yeah, a woman might want to really get
with him. But to be sagging in the back, yeah,
to get with him. So if they really really knew
their history, they would not do it. And and that's
my message, and I proved that message.

Speaker 10 (02:47:11):
But that's why everybody can't wear great Dean, I mean
great dogging pants.

Speaker 4 (02:47:18):
How Lee singers do groups sometimes?

Speaker 1 (02:47:20):
I had, uh in two thousand and three, I had
Ready for the World Freddie Jackson and Crystal William told
me that, but he was doing those gospel shows and
this other girl I can't think of the name of
thinking they had the song. Am I dreaming?

Speaker 4 (02:47:36):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (02:47:37):
Anyway, another group was there and Ready for the World
had not even performed or been together for eleven years.
They did one warm up show in Flint and then
they did the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. So
when they came on stage, you know, because Melvin didn't
really want to do the show. He didn't really want
to do the show at first, but I went up

(02:47:58):
to Flint and convinced him to do the show. So anyway,
he did the show. But what he did was he
had the group played like a song or whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:48:06):
And all of that.

Speaker 1 (02:48:07):
Then he came out like he was like, you know,
the biggest like he was Michael Jackson, like they do
like two songs or something, and he came off the
side of the stage. I just thought that was real interesting.
That that's a group, and when you have a group,
the lead singer shouldn't stand out that much, you know,
And that kind of reminds me of the whole story
about you know, David Ruffin and the Temptations and stuff,

(02:48:29):
because you knows no talking about while we stand out
that far. Though with the group is still called Ready
for the World. It wasn't called you know, Melvin Riley
and Ready for the World. It was called Ready for
the World. So for him to have any wet like
a couple of songs before he came out, and he
singing on every song, but he had them play the
instrumental for a couple of songs before he stepped out.

(02:48:51):
I thought that was a little bit unusual. What do
y'all think about those kinds of situations on the lead singer.

Speaker 2 (02:48:56):
Ego ego.

Speaker 6 (02:49:00):
Straight eagle ego.

Speaker 4 (02:49:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just curious.

Speaker 3 (02:49:05):
Look at look at look at me.

Speaker 8 (02:49:07):
I'm the man.

Speaker 3 (02:49:07):
Look at me, I'm the man. I'm the man. Everybody, everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:49:11):
Well, now they split up, just like the Temptation when
they had like what's the name of the Temptations when
they had the two Temptation groups. Now they got too
ready for the world they had. They got in one
of the guys and they got the other guys. They
went to court and everything they both can use. They
both can use the name and look at court, they
both can use the name and all of that from from.

Speaker 2 (02:49:33):
What I just stand climates too.

Speaker 4 (02:49:35):
Yeah, you know Willie from Ready for the World is
how I met Big Nino.

Speaker 1 (02:49:42):
Okay, Yeah, I knew Willie first because Willie's girlfriend got
her hair done next to my record store on U
clear at that at the beauty shop.

Speaker 4 (02:49:51):
So that's how I met them originally.

Speaker 1 (02:49:53):
But Andre Morgan is the one that you know, really
put me with them real close, right, because they're working.

Speaker 4 (02:49:58):
At m c A.

Speaker 2 (02:49:59):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:50:01):
Hey, mister Turmot, I gotta go eat dinner. Man, you
make sure you play our record. But I love you.

Speaker 4 (02:50:07):
I played Jason record I already.

Speaker 3 (02:50:10):
I don't want you to play it that one time.
I want you to play it every time.

Speaker 12 (02:50:17):
Hey, Kurry, Look, I don't want him to start acting
like mister dry.

Speaker 4 (02:50:23):
Hey what did he actually do?

Speaker 1 (02:50:24):
Because I really did hear I know he cut me off,
but I didn't I didn't hear what he actually said.

Speaker 4 (02:50:28):
Others. I know he talked about he was the killer
priest made him know the new whatever.

Speaker 6 (02:50:34):
No, you gotta go back and list.

Speaker 12 (02:50:36):
He sounds so stupid. I was getting ready to just
mute him.

Speaker 6 (02:50:41):
Yeah, you gotta go back and listen to what he said.

Speaker 12 (02:50:44):
Crazy. He was wrong and he sounds crazy and he
paying for it.

Speaker 6 (02:50:50):
Yeah, because he came in. It was like, kermit, you
skipped over.

Speaker 8 (02:50:54):
I'm not making me hungry.

Speaker 6 (02:50:55):
Man, Hey, go ahead, get you had my dinner. I
we like to thank you for coming out.

Speaker 3 (02:51:01):
Man.

Speaker 8 (02:51:02):
Yeah, man, so.

Speaker 4 (02:51:05):
Nosey and gossip and and go ahead and eat.

Speaker 3 (02:51:09):
You. Well, well, listen, I feel this way. I would
rather talk about me now because I know you're gonna
talk about.

Speaker 6 (02:51:15):
Me later as soon as you get off this phone.

Speaker 3 (02:51:20):
I know he's gonna be talking about that big nose. Dude,
I don't know what that's okay, because I got a.

Speaker 12 (02:51:28):
New he's gonna do it. Too many people gonna tell.

Speaker 1 (02:51:35):
Noses, yeah African, Well, well, well that's probably because they
know that you know how to use your nose better
than another part.

Speaker 2 (02:51:45):
So.

Speaker 8 (02:51:48):
That the statue's got the nose. The nose broken off
in Egypt. That yeah, when you guys, he's a good
one man, God bless you, letter man y'all. I'm gonna
reach out to you.

Speaker 4 (02:52:09):
Brother, I'm getting mad like like my cousin and just
In the Zoom being mad.

Speaker 3 (02:52:19):
Boll. We expect nothing nest of you, So good bye.

Speaker 4 (02:52:22):
I'm gonna tell Mike, Mike, lemont and and John they
ain't been a no group. It's just lying.

Speaker 8 (02:52:28):
Oh boy, no diddy.

Speaker 3 (02:52:36):
Hey, when the calls go on, I'm gonna send all
y'all Kerman's pictures. That did his white wi Oh.

Speaker 6 (02:52:48):
He was actually there, know he need to cut that out.

Speaker 4 (02:52:53):
That's his uncle sign off.

Speaker 8 (02:52:56):
Come on, sign off.

Speaker 4 (02:52:58):
Not everybody see you next time.

Speaker 1 (02:53:03):
Tomorrow might be a show Tomorrow Vigon Wax, maybe come Clean,
might be tomorrow night, so down Thursday, but every Monday
you've got mixa halic Monday.

Speaker 4 (02:53:14):
Goodbye.

Speaker 6 (02:53:15):
Yeah, I'm gonna open up a room.

Speaker 4 (02:53:17):
Is not queen care And that means that must mean
he don't want to talk, and that means goodbye.

Speaker 5 (02:53:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:53:22):
I mean, God be the glory, God be.

Speaker 8 (02:53:24):
The glory, God be the glory. To God be the Glory.

Speaker 4 (02:53:27):
Good Night.

Speaker 6 (02:53:29):
To hell night.

Speaker 3 (02:53:32):
Then

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