TAKING CENTER STAGE With Michael Cagle

A Fun, Anything Goes One On One Interview Talk With Guests, Most Of Whom Are In The Performing and Creative Arts. We Will Talk About Their Beginnings. Their Inspirations. Their Dreams and Goals, As Well As Their Accomplishments. Guests Wil Have a A Chance To Display or Perform Their Talent, and They Will Also Talk About Topics and Events That Are Happening That Are Important To Them and The Audience Listening.

Today's Guest Is Indi-Rock/Pop Sensation and Songwriter Brandiwyne.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm hoping that this works out and that everybody can
hear me. I'm really hoping. We're still trying to figure
everything out here and we're taking everything one step at
a time, but it is nice to be with you,
and I have a slew of people already on and

(00:25):
it is nice to be here. Let me make sure
that I have We'll make sure I have my Can
you hear me, Brandy?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
I can now?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, Hi, you can hear me?

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I can.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Welcome. How are you?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm doing well in yourself.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm doing good.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I'm still trying to figure all this out.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
This is all kind of I'm looking at stuff that's
kind of new to me, but I'm getting it and
I'm figuring it out, and that's all that matters. And
I want to welcome everybody. This is taking center stage
with me, your host, Michael Cagle, and I hope everybody's
having a truly spectacular October. I know that's really cheesy.

(01:16):
I'm sorry, but anyway, wah wah wah, and no, I do.
I hope that everybody's enjoying it. I'm getting my house
kind of semi decorated and uh, but there's so much
going on in the weather in Seattle, which is where
I'm from right now, is amazing, Like we are having

(01:39):
the best fall ever. I'm like, because I'm not a
big fan of gray clouds, and the sun popping out
has just been amazing. I just I'm loving it. Today's
special guest is a really, really incredible dear friend of mine,

(02:01):
and I'm going to do a great interview with her, hopefully.
She is a singer, she's a songwriter. She is absolutely incredible.
We have been friends and I've actually been honored to
be her vocal coach as well for many many years,

(02:21):
and she is definitely someone that's rising very quickly. Her
music is incredible. And I'm going to be talking to
the one and only Brandy Wine, who I'm so excited
is my guest. But I do want to take a
moment and say thank you very much to World Movement Enterprises,

(02:42):
and I am Indy that is sponsoring this show and
they're making it possible for me to be doing this,
So I want to give a shout out to World Movement,
Lamont Patterson and the entire crew over there, and we'll
talk a little bit more about World Movement because both
Brandy and I are signed artists and we have music

(03:03):
coming out very very soon from the label. So I
just want to say hello to everybody and welcome them
to listening. Hopefully this is gonna be a fun show.
And I, as I said, I'm just getting used to
the format and how to do things and getting pictures
up and trying to get music up. All that kind

(03:25):
of stuff is kind of new to me. Still trying
to figure out the behind the scenes stuff. But I've
got great guests coming wind up, including someone I'm really
excited about. I'll talk about it a little bit later,
but today the focus is on the one and only
Brandy Wine, who.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well, I'm gonna let her introduce yourself. Hi Brandy, Hi Michael.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah. Well, at least you're one of the few people
who actually can say my name right, So you know,
there's always that Everyone always mispronounces it and says Brandy Win,
which has has made the second guest using that name.
But you know what, I've been with it for this
long to announced back with it. I am a vocalist, singer, songwriter.

(04:15):
Like you mentioned, I am we will say, from the
Seattle area, because no one can pronounce the city I
live in properly and or knows where it is. But yeah,
it's been great. I did sign with World Movement Records
in twenty twenty two and since then have put a
nice little lineup together of songs that are going to
be coming out over the next year. Our holiday splash

(04:40):
seasonal songs have already been submitted. So Michael, you have
one out there as well. You have a few, Actually,
don't you have three?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
I do? I you know, I love I'm kind of
a geek when it comes to holidays, like especially especially
the Christmas. And I've always since I was a since
I was a little kid, my mom had always played
Christmas music throughout the house, starting right around Thanksgiving to Christmas.

(05:12):
And so those songs are so special to me. They
mean so much to me. And yeah, so I've actually,
I've actually got three that I pounded out this summer
with the help of Jimmy Flaherty uh in a better
way Seattle Sound Productions. But yes, you have, and you

(05:36):
actually have a I guess I would call it for you.
It's more of a seasonal seasonal song.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, yeah, it's more seasonal. I don't I don't really
relate to the whole holiday thing. Okay, but I mean
I've done. I mean I've done. I have Collelujah, which
is a pop rock version which is already out there.
And then there is a version of Baby It's Outside.
Whether or not that's going to come out this year,

(06:03):
if I can get it mastered in time or next year,
we shall see. But the one that World Movement Records
is going to be adding to their little seasonal roster
is a rock version of jingle Bells. So that that
was a lot of fun. And I don't mean jingle
bell rock. I just mean a rock version of jingle Bells.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
So yeah, jingle.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
No no no no, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
So yeah, so but yeah, it's it's been fun. And yeah,
we've had great weather so well, other than the smoke.
The smoke's been kind of annoying. It ain't anyone who
things it's.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Like the forest fires. Hey, I've got people.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I want to see who's listening to us, Roy guigg uh. First,
I got callers on hold, and I see your number
and everything. I kind of you. I don't know if
I should let me see who I've got on hold,
because it does not scenario.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
I can figure it out and come back if I
need to.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
So no, no, no, you're no, no, no, no, you're you're
with me, You're with me. Let me see high caller?
Which who is this caller? Who I'm button?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
No?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Are you their caller?

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Okay, I will put this collar on hold and hopefully
it'll pop back up.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I got one more hold on. Hi, you're live? Who
is this?

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Hello?

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Hello?

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Who is this?

Speaker 4 (07:52):
This is stan Stan?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (07:55):
How are you sir?

Speaker 4 (07:57):
I'm good?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
How are you good? Are you having a good time?

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Oh yeah, I'm definitely having a good time. All right,
how about you?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I look, I'm figuring this out as as I go along.
But hey, you were here last week. That's so awesome.
I've got I've got I've got repeat listeners. That's so cool. Anyway,
is there anything you wanted to ask Brandy or me
while you're on the line. Well, actually, I just wanted

(08:30):
to say hi to Brandy since I haven't spoken to
her and congratulator article.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Mm hmmm, Hi Brandy?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Where are you from?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Las Vegas?

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Las Vegas?

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (08:48):
So you've got even warmer weather right now than we do.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Oh yeah, it's pretty warm here today, but.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, night, Okay, Well, thank.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
You appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, thank you have fun, but you don't have too
much fun?

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Is that possible to have too much fun?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Oh? Yes, Oh yes, I have pictures to prove that.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
All right, madam, And see what you got to say?
All right?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
So Brandy, introduce yourself to everybody, for those of us,
for those that.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Don't know who you are. Why don't you give me kind.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Of a quick backstory of who uh Brandy brandy Wine is.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
And let's start at the beginning. What uh what is
your uh? What was your catalyst for wanting to think?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Well, So, like many musicians, music for me was always
kind of like my safe spot. I actually grew up
in not the best household. It was a broken family
and there was alcohol abuse and along with that oftentimes
goose physical abuse, And so my music was my safe space.

(10:19):
It was a way for me to get through my
day to day relating to songs or other artists, really
getting the strength to be able to push forward. And
it gave purpose to where I was and what was happening. So,
and I know it's not always easy to to talk
about those kinds of things, but you know it's I'm

(10:42):
a very firm believer in Uh, it wasn't my fault
that I was put in that situation, and it's not
other people's faults either, and you know, it's good to
just acknowledge that. So so did you Okay?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
So, I mean because I you know, I I can
relate to that story more than than I'd like to
admit because for me, Uh, music was always an avenue
of that. And I have I have been really kind
of coming to terms with a lot of things. I

(11:18):
I I can honestly say that both music and especially.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Theater literally saved my life.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
And I mean that sincerely, like I it saved my life.
It was just not just an escape, but it gave
me a place to well, I guess I gave me
a Yeah, gave me a place to feel safe and creative.

(11:48):
And U yeah, if I if I hadn't had that,
I would not be alive today.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
And yeah, yeah, well oftentimes go hand in hand it does.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
So did you were you always a songwriter? I mean,
did you did you use music creatively as far as
uh starting to write songs that early or was it
just uh you discovered your singing by other artists?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Well, so, I my dad was a frontman for a
band when I was very little, so I've been around
music since I was about five years old. I actually
started performing on stage when I was six, so that
has always been a part of my life. And I
actually my first song was written when I was eight

(12:43):
years old and I was living in Cleveland, Ohio, and
I entered the state songwriting competition and I actually ended
up winning for the juvenile division.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, it was an old song that was called Stargazer.
I don't even really remember much of it anymore, but
I do remember that was a bragging factor for my
parents for a while. But so I continued to write
songs and lyrics. I actually wrote a poetry a little.
You know how kids do those books in school. I

(13:15):
did like a poetry book type thing when I was
about eight, since I had all these song lyrics laying around. Anyway,
my dear friend Jennifer Huttner and myself used to play
guitar together and would jam out. She is far better
at it than I am now because she kept up
with it. But yeah, I mean, music has always just

(13:39):
kind of been in a part of my life since
as far back as my memories go. So that's I
think that's why I was able to lean so much
onto it when things weren't going how I wanted them to,
or I wasn't having the type of life that I
thought other people had, so and I kind of like you,

(14:00):
so ended up straying into the theater circuit. Did musical.
I was a member of show choir from seventh through
my graduation year. And yeah, so, I mean, performance has
always been there in some aspect. Played violin for fourteen years.

(14:24):
I picked up a little bit of piano, guitar keys
I was in bell choir. So if it was music,
I was just drawn to it because I knew that
was something that made me happy.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
That's awesome, I mean.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Obviously, because I know you very well. I see how
you know in your day to day life, how music
is so such an integral part of who you are.
But it's kind of nice to you know, ah, some
you know, it's weird because some of the people that

(15:05):
I know that I've gone through some of some of
their darkest times find that the art that they use,
or the art that they that they have mastered has
really given them the strength to to move on.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
And you know, it's it's pretty incredible. It really is.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Well, and without other musicians doing that when I was young,
I would not have survived my situation. I mean, I'm
I'm a prime example of where you know, the system failed.
We had child services, you know, come multiple times, but
when you schedule something, it's really easy to you know,
fake them out. And I uh, one of my teachers

(15:56):
at one point even tried tried getting involved and tried
recording everything and tried helping, and he was actually told
shut up and don't make waves by the school board.
So that's I mean, that was kind of the era
back then. You don't talk about it, you push it
under the rug. So really, if it was not for
those singers and songwriters and bands that had been there,

(16:17):
gone through it and were able to express it through music,
I really wouldn't have had anyone to turn to. So
I really owe oh those musicians, you know, my life
in a way.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
So who who who was a who was an artist
that you could always count on as far as their
music to to lift you and support you.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Oh my gosh, Well, so my biggest idol what you know,
she was just such a strong, amazing, talented woman. She
came from a similar situation, but it was even worse
back then, but she was able to be so strong
and so resilient, and she made such a beautiful craft

(17:11):
out of everything that she had been through, and her
songs were always so powerful and uplifting, and I could
always always count on her stuff to help me, whether
I was angry or sad, or you know, if I
had a crush on someone. I mean, it didn't matter.
That woman covered it all. So she was my definitely
my primary go to and that's who I really wanted

(17:34):
to be like, especially when I was younger growing up.
She's who I emulated my singing style after. Outside of
that then came other groups like Mariah Carey is another
one I've always really admired, Whitney Houston, The Carpenters I

(17:55):
listened to a lot, mostly because of my parents. But
it's funny that different genres of music, you just learned
to appreciate different aspects of it, and then you kind
of grow and pool from it. So really, I don't
think there was ever an artist I didn't like, but
those were my faves.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
So were you always aware?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I Mean, it's one thing too, It's one thing to
love music and and be inspired by music and have
it around you, But were you always aware that you
could sing?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
I had an idea. It was something I really really
wanted to do. And I mean I had a few
missed opportunities when I was younger, which you know, but
then I wouldn't treat people like you and some of
my other close friends and family, well people I consider
family now, so you know, God has a plan. It's

(18:52):
it's always times how it needs to be. But yeah,
I mean I used to help other people inquire and
things like that. I don't know if I ever thought
I was great, but I knew I was at least decent.
Even now, though I don't like listening to the sound
of my own voice, even on my own recordings, And

(19:15):
I know that's probably really weird from someone who's pursuing
being a singer, but yeah, I hate it. I love
listening to the instrumental, but as soon as my voice
comes on, I'm like, can we turn that down for
a minute?

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, yeah, I would.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
I'll just say there are many people that wish they
had that voice, And I sincerely mean that you're.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
You're surprisingly.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
You're one of the cleanest singers I know, and and
what I mean by that is, I know you're you
know you one of the areas that you enjoy singing
and you consider yourself is you know, more of a
rock kind of singer. But your voice is so clean

(20:02):
and so pure and it has a lot of it
has a lot of soul in it. Like you your
your influence from some of the artists. But you had
mentioned it's very very obvious because your runs are natural,
your your sense of embellishment is really clean. But even

(20:28):
when you're up in the stratosphere, you have something that
a lot of people don't that uh, you're It's kind
of like listening to Steve Perry. For a guy, you know,
he just hits these yeah you know, because he has
this astronomical range for a guy, but his notes are pure.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
The higher he gets, he just gets cleaner and cleaner.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
And it's the same.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Thing with you. It's just like I'm like, ah, that
that's amazing to me.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
So, yes, I got a call. Hey, let's see who
this is. I have no clue. They don't tell me
who this is, so it could be it could be
Mariah Carey. I don't know. Hold on will chair.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Ava Hey, Hello time, busy and always.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
On the go.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Go.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
I just I just actually got dropped off and.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Rid in downtown Seattle.

Speaker 6 (21:36):
I'm gonna be heading towards the Space Needle because of
that concert tonight. Touch up Boys in the order.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah, another diva around town. Yeah this point here, you
sing too, I've heard him.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Oh you've heard me.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
And so I'm Michael.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
I still have a arrange despite what other people have said,
I has.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
You know what, I'm starting to learn.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
If people get negative comments, it means you're doing something right.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
You know, that's true.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
I know people that you know, hate Selene Beon, you know,
but I've.

Speaker 6 (22:23):
Done her songs plenty of times in the karaoke bars.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
I still do okay. But once I figured out, once
I figured out there are people that hate someone like
Selene Dion or women who's in if they can hate them,
then it's okay. If people hate me, because.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
You know what, everybody's going to be a little bit different.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
So, so thank you for listening to the show. Are
you enjoying it?

Speaker 7 (22:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (22:55):
I actually have been.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
I've been actually listening in the background or like walking
around downtown Seattle.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
Still enjoying this beautiful weather.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
The weather's amazing. I'm I'm it's my wish. I just
I wish you would stay like this. Oh, I just
I dread the clouds rolling in and but yeah, I'm excited.
The weather has been really really good. So do you
have a question for either Brandy or me.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Both?

Speaker 6 (23:25):
It's like, how do you do know that singing was
your like real big passion. I think your primary passion,
your bread and butter. But there like a point in
your life where it just feels.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Like wow, you know. I I have always wanted to sing,
and I didn't really think that I could, And in
all honesty, I was not very good when I first
started out. I I wanted to do it so much

(24:00):
though I am I'm a prime example of persistence.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
But I have always been drawn to like theater.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I'm like I did my first show when I was
five years old, and I I was Little Jack Corner
and sat in the corner and stuck a swinger and
a pie kind of thing. It was a little musical
based on nursery rhymes, and so I was fine, and
they literally cast me as a little Jack Corner because

(24:28):
every time I was in a group number, I would
push my way to the front and felt out as
loud as I could and they're like no, I thought that.
They're like no, no, no, no, and I'm like, you know,
I'm doing my thing, and they're like, okay, We've got
the perfect character for you.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
So my first character I had five years old was little.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Jack Corner and not going on. I knew, I knew
I loved the stage and I loved I love the
way it made me feel. Even to this day, I
am never more comfortable and more more feel safe than
than when I am on stage somewhere. It has stayed

(25:11):
with me.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
My entire life. But singing probably.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
I think probably when I started getting into high school, uh,
really discovering my voice with important and from then on
it's been it's been my primary thrust.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Rab Yeah, I'm kind of the same, kind of the
same story oddly enough, except not the theater and trying
to push to the front since I was kind of shy.
But my dad when I was when I was six, uh,
snuck me into a bar that his band was performing
on at and he got me up on stage and Uh,

(25:52):
after the end of that one song, I just looked
out and I saw all those cheering, happy people, and
the adrenaline rush got from and I was like yeah,
I want to do this the rest of my life.
This is cool. Back then, I didn't realize, you know,
how hard it was going to be or how much
it work. But that was I got like my initial fix.

(26:15):
But as I got older, I just realized I couldn't
even go a day without singing. I mean it was
I always had to be there, much to my family's annoyance.
So uh, you know, oh, you know, when you're little,
you don't sound the same as when you're grown. So
like I had this really high, squeaky voice when I

(26:36):
was young. I'm still a color of Tora, but man,
I had like another half in octave on me, and
that's where I used to sing all the time. My
family hated it. I swear. My dad used to pay
me to shut.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Up so.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Allow with money.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, here here go do something please. Oddly enough, that
happened when I first started violin too, huh. Anyway, the yeah,
so it was, you know, it was just always there,
and as I got older that was my leaning points.
I did show choir, I see you so yeah, and
I even my my fallback plan was I went to

(27:14):
school for music education so I could be a choir teacher.
So I knew it was going to be there in
some aspect.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Mmm, well, thank you for calling and keep listening.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
And if you stay on, I might I might hit
you back up. But if not enjoyed the show, thank you,
I really do.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
Oh yeah, I love you both.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Love you.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Dream some of that concerts so I can live through you.
I want to see it.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
Generally, I cannot film the concerts because I'm actually going
to be working there.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Yes, Oh, okay, never mind, I know, I know, I know,
but it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Okay, have lots of fun, have one's lot fun.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
All right, I'll be on the background for a while.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Okay, sounds good. Ah, that's so funny. We have you know.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
And I know I literally tell people this all the time.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
I feel so humble because I m I literally have
the most talented friends anyone could ever ask for. Like
I there's never a chance for me to feel like
I'm the best singer in the world or to get

(28:45):
an ego because my friends are just ridiculously talented.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
And oh man, yeah, Seattle will keep you humble, that's
for sure.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Seattle, and you know, Vegas and my friends in Nashville
and my friends and actors and on the East Coast,
and like I've got it's just our well, a lot
of my friends are your friends, and they're they're just
My Facebook page is constantly filled with people that are
just you know, singing or performing and or drawing or

(29:21):
or writing books that I just my my list of
friends is just ridiculously talented.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
I did want to say, uh, huh, what.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
You you attract people you're similar to?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I would that's quite a compliment because I I literally,
I literally am always in awe of what my other
friends are doing and what they're achieving and how they're succeeding.
And I just like it's so inspirational to me because
I really, I I know how hard it is ah

(30:04):
to succeed in in a business, that especially anything that
has to do with performing or creative arts. It's such
a difficult path to succeed. And to see so many
of my friends just constantly h knocking the door down
and and and and achieving goals. Is You're an inspiration

(30:28):
to me. You know, Uh, you're so resilient, Well you are.
You're so resilient in every it seems like like everybody else.
You know, uh, You've had your share of ups and
downs and and lives tried to throw things that at you,
and yet you kind of stood there and said bring

(30:49):
it on. And I told you this before. I feel
like you're one of the most resilient people I know.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
And you know, and other words for that is stubborn.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Okay, I can go with that.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, I mean I've literally seen you hold on and
believe when there was nothing else you could do, and
then all of a sudden it opened up.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Things just happened and they opened.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Up for you. I've got another call. Uh, this is
so cool. All right, let me see if I can do.
I think I'm getting this right. I think I'm doing
this well. All right, Hello, hello caller, are you there? Hello? Okay, yeah,

(31:47):
hello here we hi. Hi.

Speaker 8 (31:52):
This is Olivia.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
It is so nice to meet you.

Speaker 8 (32:00):
I was calling in to listen to the show.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Oh okay, well I will let you do that. But
it's so nice.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Olivia is one of.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
The important behind the scenes movers and shakers at World
Movement Records and World Movement Enterprises, and she's Wow, she's
got a heck of a job. So it is awesome
to It is awesome to meet you.

Speaker 8 (32:35):
The same here, same here.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Okay, do you have any questions for us or are
you just kind of listening?

Speaker 8 (32:42):
And no, I don't have any questions at the moment.
I was just calling in to listen to the show.
I got a fantastic show last week. I heard that
one and this one.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Well, thank you and and a personal thank you. Thank
you for everything that you've done, all the letters that
you've written me, and all the advice and and and
help for me getting things going. I really do respect
and appreciate what you do, and I thank you for

(33:17):
taking the time to to help me achieve my goals.

Speaker 8 (33:22):
We thank you, and you're welcome en.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Likewise, and thank you for understanding my very bad grammar
in my emails.

Speaker 8 (33:33):
That is no problem, no problem.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Well, Olivia, thank you.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
I'm going to put you on hold, but I'm going
to come back in a little bit if you if
you feel like jumping in, and that would be incredible.
But I do hope you enjoy the rest of the show, sweetie.

Speaker 8 (33:47):
Okay, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
All right, so let me check this one. It is
this file?

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yeah, oh, I mean, and in my defense, some of
those emails are sent at like one am. That's when, right, time, so.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
High call her.

Speaker 9 (34:03):
You're on?

Speaker 6 (34:05):
Are you there?

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Sir?

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Hey family? Handy family?

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Oh I think I know that boy.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Hey family, who's this? I don't know, it's it's just
a honest thay. This guy just practically it's a miracle.
Who is this? Well, I'll let me say, hell, help,

(34:37):
I got wrong here?

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Help to tap at the show because I heard this
one's going on.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
All right, I'm I'm an ass.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Hey, Brandy, we're gonna have to do something to that guy.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
I don't know what's wrong with him.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
I guess he just doesn't pay attention when when when
you're asking him stuff on the phone. It's okay, Well
we'll figure it out.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
Yes, it's okay because we know that the elevators don't
go to all the floors. So I got it. I
got it. I've been knowing this guy too too long,
so I just learned many times.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
I mean, just roll with it. It's okay, a brandy.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
You know how he's like make little band kids go
sit in the corner on a chair and stuff.

Speaker 10 (35:40):
Oh too, well, yes, all right, I should just it's
gonna get terrible.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
But on the phone is the one and the yeah,
because hello, sir, there's me and Brandy was still talking
about too yecause this start is good fun.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yes, all right, No nobody knows as every ready knows.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Mister Lemmon Patterson as a CEO and both World Movement
Records and World Movement Enterprises, and uh he is actually
uh one of the big sponsors for my show here,
and so I want to thank him for that. But yeah,
I know, right, it's so nice. Are you enjoying Are

(36:36):
you enjoying the show?

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yeah, man, it is great, man, I just bever anybody.
I can listen up to the sum and everything lasting
at two guys. Man, But you're doing what you're doing,
and you're doing it well man, as I have been
for many years.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Man.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Still I'm proud of you. Got you know what I mean.
It's been twenty thirty years now. I know it's been
a bus.

Speaker 10 (36:57):
Not that long.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Giving away this year.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Come on, we didn't advertising never give up your age.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
We we did.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
If we need to look better, a long way to
do it. But I'm known around the issue with that,
you know, it's one of the job day answer just
so you know, you know, oh.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Oh yeah, we didn't we meet. We met in two
thousand and nine or two thousand and ten.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Right, Yeah, it was a while ago. It was a while. Yeah,
you were you.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
You put on you put on great events back then.
You were definitely someone that was way way way ahead
of your time, especially in the Vegas area, what you
were wanting to do and what And I'm I'm so glad,
like we talked about last week, I'm so glad you
moved to lots uh lots of back to Los Angeles

(38:02):
and really just things just have really taken offer you
because you've been able to just do the things you've
been wanting to do, and uh, you're just impacting people
and so it's it's awesome to see. It really is.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Well, it's truly blessing, man. And I have to contantly
give it to big boy up stairs, man, and try
to stay grounded and stay prayerful. But I do quit
every day just so you guys know that.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
I'm glad you rehire yourself.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
I rehire myself the next thing, because I mean, I
don't know one else to know, man, You know, blasting
or is it a curse? I don't know.

Speaker 7 (38:53):
A lot of hats.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, yeah, but I got a big here too, mind me.
You know, you see you see my you see you
see my hair. Those are all my antennas.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Okay, well, see that makes so much more sense. Now
that's the opportunity to you. You just send them from everywhere.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
When you're gonna play some wh when you're gonna play
some music, Michael.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Okay, look, and so here's here's the issue. I I
don't know if I don't know if I did it right.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Uh good, Okay, Okay, So I'm gonna wait, all right,
So I'm gonna try I'm gonna try something and just
see if if it worked, because I uploaded it and
then I couldn't find it and then I'm like, oh,
maybe this has been working and maybe I am dumb,
but uh, I don't think. I just don't know if

(39:55):
I I did it right because I'm I'm looking at
all the mu and I can't kept my mind.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
So yeah, well, I think if it's very is the
very top, you should be able to type in the
title and it all come up if you did it right.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Well, I'm hoping, Okay, all right, So I'm gonna try this.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
All right. I've never done this before. I've never put
any sound out. I'm gonna just see if it works,
and then if it does, I'm gonna be like really
amazingly happy.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Ready, here we go, Here we go, Gonnavent mine cold.

Speaker 11 (41:00):
Everything he hadn't seen time, Everything has its time. Show
me your resign enos, show you around. Catt it on
the wind, herself shouldn't fit in the snow.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Why do I have to see?

Speaker 2 (41:18):
I don't sit in anywhere I go.

Speaker 11 (41:22):
Realize along when they can aroundba.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Eagles along when they can't.

Speaker 7 (41:30):
Line, I've got you beat with my spirit can be b.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Got a fat bie the sky. Every man has stagerines,
every man has a gold people like the watrea. All right,

(41:59):
I think that works.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
I think you did?

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Everybody?

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Uh yeah, did you hear it?

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yeah? Right at the end, it got really loud in
my headset for some reason.

Speaker 12 (42:14):
I'm not sure why, but other than that, it was
because I was it had a I think it has.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
A fader on it.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
So yeah, okay, we'll go down.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
I went the wrong direction, everybody. Sorry, Okay, so now
I know how to do that.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Okay, I guess I did it correctly. Yes, yes, I know.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
So now now when I have guessed seeing hint, hint, hint,
they can give me their tracks in advance hint, hint, hint,
and then we can play their music during the show, and.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
You can play their music after after they're off the radio, because,
like I said, I don't like hearing my own voice.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, you know, it's so weird because you know, I
know how hard it was for me to get where
I'm at. Like I put, I don't know, some people
are like born where they can just you know, they
they they've always had that like natural kind of gift

(43:29):
and they just and for me, I had what I
think was called natural desire, and I was too stubborn
because I loved it too much that I forced myself
to get better. But even to this day, I don't
consider myself a great singer because I I've worked so

(43:51):
hard and I listened to so many other people that
do things that I that I just admire and love
that I don't. You know, I'm not somebody that thinks
that I'm a really great vocalist.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
I think I I think, I know we'll start with
saying you are you are phenomenal. I mean, you start
singing when we go out, and the whole place shuts
up and the stairs. So I don't want to hear it,
But I mean it's it's not necessarily a bad thing.
I think it's good to stay humble. And you know,
remember where you started, where you're from. You know, no

(44:32):
matter how good anyone is at anything, there's always going
to be someone better somewhere out there. So that's to
just be grateful and everybody get along and try to
support each other.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
I agree, you know, I I nothing makes me happier than,
you know, seeing someone that I really believe in achieving
their goal and knowing that they put the time, and
you know, I'm yeah, I kind of laugh because you know,
I'm a I'm a I'm I'm I like watching things

(45:04):
like The Voice or American Idol, and but it always
drives me nuts when you find someone that's like fourteen
or fifteen years old and they're crying because they've wanted
this their entire life, and and I'm like, you know, yeah,
eight years ago, you wanted the newest Barbie, be over

(45:24):
the age of be over the age of forty and
have doors slamming in your face, or or sing for
an audience of ten and then ten, but still go
for it and still have that desire and that dream,
and then tell me you've You've wanted this your entire life,

(45:45):
and I'm slimming young I'm not slimming young talent.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
That's That's not what I meant.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
It's just that, you know, at there's a differge between
someone who has worked their entire life and and really
pay their dues and could have given up, but they
stayed in the fight and someone that you know, is
cute and adorable at you know, fourteen or fifteen, and
everybody goes, oh, they're so marketable and listening to them

(46:14):
going oh, I wanted this since I was what twelve?

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Well, and then those are the ones unfortunately that I mean.
I think there should be a precedent, and not to
knock little kids. There's a place for all ages and music.
It's meant for everybody. You know, Disney's always going to
have movies and whatnot that they're come to net singers,
but like the real music market that's out there on

(46:39):
radio and TV and whatnot. I really think you need
to be an adult before you're exposed to that, because
that's why you get so many kids that can't handle it,
and then they're super young, like seventeen eighteen, and they're
turning to alcohol and drugs and because they just can't
handle the pressures that come along with it.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
It is, you know, I I and I, you know,
mainly because I'm over the age of forty. But I
kind of resent being told that I'm washed up because
I'm you know, I'm not eighteen. Because I think there's
a lot there's a lot of experience and a lot

(47:20):
of wisdom that you gain and I think I think
I'm a better singer now than I have ever been
in my entire life.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
And I think to discard anybody.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Just because they're not a certain age fan is is
terrible because there's there's just a wealth of I mean,
I look at you know, I got to see Tony
Bennett when about oh my gosh, ten years ago in Vegas,
and he's still saying like he does like he did

(47:57):
when he was younger, and in some ways even better.
And but yet nobody would ever if he wasn't Tony Bennet.
Nobody would ever walk across the street to see, you know, uh,
an unknown eighty year old person singing standing. They just wouldn't.
You know, they're not gonna but but talent to me,

(48:20):
if you take care of your instrument, if you're still
passionate about it, if you still have that drive, you know,
and you're you're still always wanting to improve.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
I think that talent doesn't leave you.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
At a certain age and and and it definitely doesn't
make you unmarketable or unwelcome.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
I just think people are scared.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
I think I think an American idol with people over
the age of forty would be huge.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
I mean I'd watch that. I'd probably watch it more
than I would with you know, some of the other
other acts that they pull in. But yeah, like I said,
I what do you think every what do you.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Think it was?

Speaker 3 (49:04):
But come on, I think you lost him.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
I think we lost then he ran, he ran away.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Well he's probably got to get to a movie set
or something. Knowing him, I mean, come on, oh yeah, yeah,
that man does like ten things at once.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
So Brandy what is what is? Let's talk about your
your upcoming? This is going to be this is gonna
be a big year for brandy Wine.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
It is. It's it's exciting, but it's also a little
bit scary. Okay, It's not scary as in like I
don't want to do it? Scary as in what what after?
I guess it's one of those things like when you
when you reach the point where your dream starts to
come true, then he kind of got to alter that
dream a little bit. And uh that that part's a

(49:59):
little a little intimidating because then you got to aim
even higher. But yeah, no, I mean it's been great
the past couple of years. My stuff's been getting airtime.
It's more popular over in Europe than it is here.
But you know, I've gotten radio play and I get

(50:19):
a lot of good feedback from followers and fans. My
Spotify has started to take off.

Speaker 12 (50:25):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
But yeah, so this year will be the first time
I'm going to release something under an actual label, So
you know, I've I've set the bar that much higher
because I wanted to be a good representation for the brand,
especially since you know, they were the ones that are
giving me my shot. And like you said, there's a

(50:47):
lot of no's, there's a lot of you don't look
the right way, you don't, you're not the right age,
you don't you know, you don't have this or that
or and uh in the music industry, you know, that's
that's just a reality. But so we've been recording a
couple of songs, one of which we've been working on

(51:10):
the past four months, which is a upcoming rock cover
of the song never Enough that originally debuted in the
Greatest Showman. It was just such a beautiful song and
it had such powerful lyrics, but nothing was really done
with it outside of the movie soundtrack. So I wanted

(51:32):
to to see those writers get some more exposure for,
you know, what they created, and so I went forward
with that with Iron Grove Studios. Tyler Mays is my
producer over there, and you know, we've really been really
picky about our tracks, and then came the part where

(51:54):
we're like, well, we you know, if we're gonna make
something this big, we really should collab with someone. And
that's where we went in and we reached out to
Robert Fisher, the Rock and Roll inductee and you know,
one of the founders of Heart, because he's an amazing guitarist,
and I mean, to my pleasure and surprise, he was

(52:16):
on board. So we had him as the featured guitarist
for this song that's going to be coming out and
I'm just, yeah, super super excited about it. I can't
wait to get that out there and get ears on it,
and it's been really hard because I get a little
bit of a sneak peek having been there and getting
to approve tracks, and I have to sit there going, no,

(52:37):
don't send it to anybody, don't send it to anybody.
I can do this. Don't send it to anybody. It's
got to come out all at once, well, with the
exception of you. But don't tell other people.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
That I know. I gotta say.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
I gotta say I got a I got a.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
A.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
I don't want to say it's rough draft by any means,
but it was like.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
A first it wasn't masters right, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
It is outstanding.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
I I.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Obviously I'm a huge fan of your voice anyway, but
the the way you navigated.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
The original and then put your spin on it and
allowed you know this, it's it is really incredible.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
And he really delivered on the on the guitar soloh,
it felt it felt so organic and like right there
in the moment and just it just it's a great Honestly,
it's like, the only thing I can say is it
reminds me of when you listen to beat it and

(53:56):
then you hear these you know. Michael had an amazing voice, whatever,
whatever you want to think about whatever. Michael Jackson can
sing his face off and he you know, his vocals
unbeat it were outstanding. But right there in the middle
of that, you got Eddie Van Halen doing his thing

(54:19):
that he does so well, and it just the collaboration
between the two makes that product just stand out. And
I am so excited. I really am so excited for
people to hear this cover because I think it's it
really encapsulates who you are as a brand and what

(54:41):
you're capable of doing. It's it really is incredible well
and it's.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
I mean, I was so excited too, because Roger Fisher
is such a talent and again it just goes back
to that whole age does not define you. This man
has been playing godd knows how long. I believe he's
he's pushing seventy. But he has got some of the
fast guitar skills. I mean, see that boy can move still,

(55:10):
It's like impressive, and he knows his way around the studio,
so you know it. He just he is still such
a viable, you know, asset to the music industry, and
I'm so excited to be able to show people that
again because I know he's kind of taken a little
bit of a break recently for music, so hopefully this
will kick start his button get him out there touring

(55:31):
again too.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
That would be awesome. So what is your time on?

Speaker 2 (55:37):
I know that well, both of us, as we've said,
we all have quote holiday, you know, season all releases
coming out through world movement. But then what what what
does your twenty twenty three?

Speaker 4 (55:55):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Canning believe I'm saying that?

Speaker 1 (55:57):
What is your two thousands looking like?

Speaker 3 (56:01):
So twenty twenty three, I've got three other singles that
will be getting released, And again I've been I've been
kind of taking the singles approach from my standpoint. People
don't have the same attention span as they used to,
so that's kind of why I think some of these
like shuffle programs and things have been invented. No one

(56:23):
really sits there and listens to a ten song album
by the same artist in a row anymore now thanks
to technology. So I would prefer to get one out
at a time and really, you know, get it the
lime light and show what it can do, and then
in a couple more months then I'll put out another one,
and that way they continue to pile up and at

(56:45):
some point I might you know, combine them all into
one platform, like an album type thing where people can
just have one download and be done with it. But
I'm not in any real hurry to go that route
just so and then I'll gives us more time to
market and advertise the releases, which is part of the

(57:07):
fun of it. Really.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Yeah, this is this is so weird because we're both
old enough to remember when, uh, there wasn't such thing
as streaming, you know, so people have to go to
things called the mall and pick up you know, either
a CD records, right, And I'm just like, and you know,

(57:33):
I mean, I love the ability of streaming, and I
think it's I think it's really a cool way for
people to get music into the hands of their fans
and their listeners quickly. But it's kind of like every
now and then, I love the hard copy. I love owning,

(57:54):
owning your CD. That that stands well, it's kind of like, uh,
getting a book on your phone and reading it on
your phone, or going down and purchasing a book and
being able to turn the pages, you know, into fields.
Well go ahead, Oh no.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
I was gonna say, and Vinyl is making a comeback
now too. Vinyl's cool again.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Yl Wow, and it's expensive.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Wow it is Oh my goodness. Yeah, I looked into it.
It is super expensive to produce vinyls. But I've already
had people reaching out requesting it. And I'm like, you're seventeen,
Why are you requested? How do you even know what
that is?

Speaker 7 (58:36):
No?

Speaker 3 (58:36):
I guess, yeah, thing again it is. Uh.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
In fact, we went to we went to best Buy
and I started laughing because Jason said to me, hey, uh,
you want to buy a you want to buy a
record player? And I'm like, what, Wow, you know, because
it's just it's just weird, you know, but everything old

(59:03):
is new again. I just you know. And I think
that's one thing that Lamont probably has seen, out of
all three of us, has seen the most is how
music and the way it gets into the hands of
their fans or into the ears of the fans has
drastically changed.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Some people have said streaming killed the music industry.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
You know, but I'm not really sure. I guess that's
something I will have to ask him.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
But it is different, you know.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
It's because I've even had people say to me, hey,
are you going to have. Are you gonna have a
CD with your you know, with your Christmas music coming out?
And I'm like, ah, I don't think so because nowadays,
well it's huh.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
It's expensive. It's expensive now. I mean, and you there
isn't there isn't really money to be had anymore, especially
with streaming services. I mean, if you think about it,
you get paid point zero zero six percent of assent
for play. Yeah, so I mean going in with that factor,
you don't make music because you expect to make money

(01:00:19):
at it. You just can't run. So if you don't
love it, you're not going to survive the long haul, right,
And yeah, i mean TV and film being the exception.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Yeah, I've heard, I've heard the rules on that is.
And once again, that's something I know Lamont knows a
lot about because he's right, you know, he's very seriously
involved with a lot of motion picture and TV music
and placing songs and so I'm sure that's pretty accurate.

(01:00:52):
But I got to say, one of the biggest thrills
of this past year was and it came on my
face spook feed. So I started laughing, and I'm like, wow,
what a year. But a year ago yesterday you gave
me the first rough rough draft of our duet. It

(01:01:18):
hadn't been mastered yet. It hadn't been mastered yet. It
was like, this is kind of and such. We started
the process of can we do this? What do we
do do here? And how do we do this? But
it's been a year since the very first rough draft

(01:01:39):
was presented to me, and you know, to this day,
I think the song is outstanding and I am really
forever humbled and thankful for the opportunity to work with you.
It was so for you to ask me to jump
on the project was incredible, and then the entire experience

(01:02:03):
was wonderful. You you're so unselfish, you know, like you're
just no you really are, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Involved, Then it's a different story unless there's ice cream involved.
Then ice cream, then there's a different story.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
But you know, I'm I'm I'm hoping that something does
happen with that song. I'm hoping that you know, it
finds its way into some kind of lifetime movie or
or something, because it really is a it's a really
good every now and then you capture a feel in

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a recording, and I think you recognize this as well
as virtually anybody that's gone in the studio. Every now
and then, you just capture a moment that's hard to
define or describe, but it works. And there's just there
was something that really connected in that duet. And you know,

(01:03:07):
I really hope that somehow it gets a resurgence and
finds its way, you know, to to the powers that
be that you know, can move it forward, because I know,
I know World Movement was happy with it and they've
done a great job as far as getting it out there.
I just I hope, I hope that there's someone that

(01:03:30):
does hear it or something down the line where it's
just it's it's a great and it's not because I'm
singing on it by any means. It's just that there's there.
It's just that there's a great feel there. It's like
a completed moment, and that's I I just think, I

(01:03:51):
think there's there's a lot there. So but I did
want to thank you for the opportunity again because it's,
like I said, it came on my Facebook page and
I thought, oh my gosh, this has been the wildest
you know, twelve months I've ever experienced in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Yeah, no, thank you I mean you, you did me
the honor of coming in and being willing to do
that with me. You'd be surprised how many people they
could be phenomenal singers and say this is what they
want to do, but then you invite them in studio
to actually do it, and they want nothing to do
with it. And that's that's always one of the hardest

(01:04:33):
things is watching someone who has a lot of talent,
but then they're not willing to push forward or try
to do anything to move forward with that talent, even
though they say they want to. So, I mean you,
you did me a solid because it needed that second perspective.
You know, the song is obviously about about a breakup,

(01:04:57):
but having both the female and the male perspective in
the song where you can tell with the song it
was a horrible miscommunication. There was like a lapse, but
the end result was still the same that one didn't
want to talk to the other and it was ended
that that couldn't have been for trade without having you

(01:05:19):
having your input. And I mean you even helped tweak
the vocals and the lyrics a little bit. And so yeah,
I mean Lindsay Vrensky did a great job. She was
the one who originally wrote the song and allowed us
to uh to record it and figure all that out.
But you know, it wouldn't have been what it is
without your your help and find that she put into it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
So yeah, it was. It definitely was a high point
this year and listening having the opportunity to jump in
the studio with you and and do my thing, and you,
like you laid out such a such an interesting world
map of where to take the song, and and you know,

(01:06:04):
you made me disciplined because it was the integrity of
the song and the feel of the song was so
well established that it wouldn't have made sense for me
to be all over the place vocally, because then it
would have just meant a distraction. So it just was.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
I right, I love having but yeah, I tried. No,
it was great, It was great.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
So yeah, I'm i'm I'm I'm looking forward to hopefully
someday working on another one with you. And because I think,
you know, I know people say that this often, but
every now and then you work with someone and there's
just a really good chemistry there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
And when you work, when you get to work with someone.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Who's all about the finished product and about the message
and about creating a four minute experience. It really allows
you to grow as an artist because you have the
freedom to take some chances. And I think that's what happened.

(01:07:20):
I really do. So is still here, You're so welcome.
Let me see if you're still here. Hello, sir, are
you still there? Hello?

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
I'm pretty sure he's back. I'm pretty sure he's back
on set somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
All right, So you're listening to Taken center Stage with
Michael Kagel.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
That's me, And if you'd like to call in, grab
a piece of paper and a pen, and the number
is three four seven three zero eight eight seven four seven.
That's three four seven three zero eight eight seven four seven.
Love to hear from you. If you have a question
for either myself or my incredible special guests Brandy Wine,

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give us a call and we'll put you on the
air and love to hear what you guys think on
what's going on in your heads?

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
And yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Never so never Enough should be released.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Do you do you have a release date in your
head of when that one's gonna gonna be available?

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Yeah, as long as everything goes well, we're looking at
early December twenty twenty two, and then we'll have our
follow up single in January of twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
So wow, so you're.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Gonna know how does okay? So wow?

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
I didn't know that it was gonna be that early.
Good for you?

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
Okay again fingers crossed.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Okay, thinks can always go wrong last minute, but that's
what we're aiming for.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Okay. I saw the and I saw the art work.
I loved the art work. Amazing. It looks really really good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Who uh, whoever designed the artwork really did a nice job.
But it's so is it just a matter now of
getting it mastered? Is the mix pretty much set and
so it's just a matter of the final master.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
We uh.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
We finished the mix. We've got everything and that we
need and then it was sent out. One of my
preferred mastering companies is black Belt, So we had that
sent out and it should hopefully, you know, again fingers crossed,
if there are no complications, be back later tonight, if
not early next week.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
So I am so, I am, I am so excited
for you. I really true, I really truly mean that.
I'm absolutely thrilled and excited.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
And I think.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
If this gets the I kind of push in the
right places. This is it's a star making. It really
is a star making, uh product for you because it's
like I said, it's it. I'm not gonna give away
too much, but there's so much. There's such a respect

(01:10:20):
for the original, and then it just takes off into
this place where your brand and your representation just it's great.
I really am.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
And I've been really honored to be a small part
of that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
I mean, as far as bouncing ideas off of and
that kind of thing, because you know, you're somebody I
really want to see succeed and you deserve it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Oh yeah, well, I mean I'm always I'm always gonna
bounce my ideas off of you because like you're the
You're my go to person. It's like you're my vocal
coach and you and like you're what I want to
listen frior to in music because you're just so confident
and you're so good on stage. And yeah, so I
mean I'm always You're always going to get the sneak
peaks of what's coming out.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
But uh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
I am, I am truly truly truly excited.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Uh. Let me see, we don't have any new callers yet.
But I'm hoping that everybody's enjoying this.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
I had a good.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Listening uh a listening amount last week, so I'm hoping
that this this takes off. I know that, you know,
it's it's kind of weird when you do something like this. Uh,
you always either get people that are super supportive or
people that go out. It should have been me why
you know, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
I mean it's Friday midweek or Friday mid day.

Speaker 12 (01:11:51):
Too, so you know, it's so here hard because I
couldn't figure out what time slot would actually be the
best for this, and I'm like, well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
It's it's five o'clock on the East coast and two
o'clock here.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
So but then again, people you know, can go to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
To the Lincoln.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
I believe they can listen to this at any time, even.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
After it's done. So yeah, so it's not it's not
totally like finished and and it's done, but I think
they can. I really believe the World Movement has made
it where like a lot of these are archived you
can listen to them and that kind of thing. So,

(01:12:38):
but so what does.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Brandy Wine do for fun when she's not making music?

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
So singing doesn't count right, besides, you know, being the
music side of stuff, which, let's face it, that's an addiction.
So it's an everyday thing. A lot of people don't
know this about me.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
Some do.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
I actually am a professional mermaid. So I swim in
a monophin and wear a tail skin. And I think
there was one other famous artist that did a music
video in one, although I don't know if she actually
swam in it. But so I like doing that. I
like going in the ocean and uh doing snork lean

(01:13:31):
or scuba with a tail because the monosen helps you
to propel faster, and oddly enough animals they are less
afraid of you. So if you're in the water and
you have the monopin on the fish and things aren't
quite as leary, which is great. But so I do that.
I do gardening. Although I didn't get a custommer half

(01:13:53):
of my plants are day.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
I must ask do you do the do you do
the mermaid.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Situation?

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
Like in.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Parks or rivers or swimming pools or I mean, where
do you feel comfortable doing that?

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
So I used to, I will stress used to because
once I started doing music as my full time profession,
I kind of took a back seat.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
To that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Was I would get hired out for private events or
birthday parties, so you had to have like this whole
backstory about who you were, where you're from whenever you
did like a kiddies party type thing. But sometimes there
were like bands performing or something, and they just wanted
to have a couple of girls stressed up as mermaids

(01:14:50):
on the water feature out front while they performed swimming around.
Or some of my friends do the renaissance fairs and
things have had the opportunity to be hired.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
You how do you walk and that? How do you
walk in that outfit?

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:15:08):
You don't?

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
You don't you have you either have to get ready
at the site and someone helps you have like an
area where you can hide and then you kind of
ungracefully roll into the water. Or you have what we
call a Mr Handler, so you have a person whose
only job is to lift you up and carry you
from point A to point B while you smile and

(01:15:30):
wave at everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
I think that wild.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
Uh, I mean it's this thing with the diva attitude.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
So okay, why I was gonna say, do you have
like you know I can picture you like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Like Cleopatra where they're like, let them eat, let them
eat grapes, you know, where you're carried on a on
a on a big bed or something, and with your
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
I don't know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Oh no, it's fine. I mean, some of my friends
and I joked around about taking their They have a
twenty twenty two pick up that they just got and
us lining the back and then filling it with water
and decorating it with seaweed and shells and like all
the paraphermilia that we can get to make it like
ocean themed and then just drive around city with me
and a couple of my friends in the back, flipping

(01:16:32):
our tails and waving at people. Just because the shock factor.
We were like, oh, that'd be fun. We could totally
freak some people out. But yeah, I got it got
a little too cold to that before we moved forward
with it. But you know, you know, I don't know,
ideas for next summer still might happen, but okay, so
I have.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
To I have to ask.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Yeah, And because I know a lot of you know,
a lot of people enjoy cosplaying. You know, they go
to the comic cops and you know, I I do
the same thing. I'm I'm I'm a total geek. I
will lay that out. I am a massive geek and
I go to the comic cons and one of the
things I love to do is dressing up. So what

(01:17:15):
is what what does it feel like to do that?

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
And what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
With I am one of those dorks too? Okay, we
could do a yeah, yeah, totally man, I'm I'm all
about it. I had no problem with costumes. As a
matter of fact, next weekend my band is performing and

(01:17:47):
I'm going to be in my your costume which is
from a newer anime that's called uh spy a family Okay,
like this really meek, quiet girls who in secret is
an assassin? So uh yeah, no, I mean I've again theater.
You know, they they they kind of I don't know,

(01:18:09):
plant the seed when you start theater when you're young
and you're like, I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Let that go.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
How else can I feel this need? So comedy cons
and conventions are the easiest thing to go to, and
it's so much fun. I mean, who doesn't want to
dress up and pretend to be someone else for a
day and act silly and you know, look at all.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
I think I might have a caller.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
I'm going to check.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Okay, let me see it's spinning.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
Hello, Hello, I'm just don't I time back in and
listen a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Oh, we were talking about things that you were probably
have some great input on, and and we were talking
about how streaming has changed the music business. And you know,
it's a great advantage for fans, but not necessarily. You know,
maybe labels are it's a little bit harder for labels,

(01:19:12):
and maybe I don't know if it's harder for artists,
because that means they have a way of putting their
music on platforms pretty quick as well. I guess what
do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
I think the industry has changed so much over the years,
and I think it's a plus for artists because well,
let me say this. There used to be a time
where you couldn't even have a studio unless you add
over one hundred and some thousand dollars now now ten
thousand dollars, unless you could have a home recording studio

(01:19:51):
that produced digital quality, you know, digital quality, digital quality.
So now it's like artists have the ability to through
the streaming and through all that to get music hundreds
of thousands of songs or at least daily, So if
the people don't know about the song, then what did

(01:20:14):
you really do? But in that whole transition, you have
a whole generation of people that are computer savvy versus
a lot of old school rock, R and B artists
from different generations. They're not as computer savvy, so they're
missing out on the whole social media situation and the

(01:20:37):
different ways that you could, you know, promote your music
because before you know, it's basically brick and mortar. You
would have your advertisement on the side of a building
or a billboard or a bus bench or something. But
now you know, it's a whole lot different. So I
kind of feel sorry for a lot of old school artists.

(01:20:57):
It's not really computer lit. Then again, like I said,
without you know, banging that one, you know there's good
and bad things to it, but you know, you just
have to stay and tell what's happening. Man. You gotta
you gotta get off the bleachers and get in the game.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
Basically, yeah, and that's where, like a lot of people,
you'll hear independent artists saying, oh, I can do this
without a label. I don't need a label. They're pointless
that's where labels come in. They understand how to navigate
all that. They understand how to get you heard. So
you're not just making music for your family and your
five friends so exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
I mean even even myself.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
I you know, I was doing this for a while
before I came on board with you guys, but my
Spotify went from like twenty five people up to you know,
twenty five hundred, you know, a month after being with
you guys, because of your promotions and you know, the
advertising and whatnot that you do. So, I mean, it
really is crucial for an artist if they really do

(01:21:56):
want to quote unquote make it, and you know, to
have that help. So I don't I don't really think
those labs are outdated.

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
Yeah, everybody needs a team. Everybody needs a team because
if people could do it by themself, everybody would be
doing it by theyself. But that's impossible. You hear people say,
well I could do that myself. Yeah right, whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
Yeah, No, I mean, you got marketing, distribution, the art creators,
you know, all of the channels you have to go
through just to make sure the music is prepped and
primed and ready to go, and the social platforms and
I can't see one thing never doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
And let's be honest, one of the major benefits of
being signed to a label is to be able to
say you're signed to a label, because that means somebody
somewhere believes in you enough to bring you under their umbrella,
and that speaks volumes, you know. And I don't you know,

(01:23:01):
like I said, I don't slam anybody that's making music
out of you know, out of their own studio, you know.
And there's, like Leaman said, hundreds of songs released every day,
not more. But there's something about being able to say,
I have this record label in our in our case,

(01:23:23):
we have World Movement Records. They've got our back, and.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
That that does, that does speak volumes.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
So relations they comes. That comes with relationships. To Michael,
you know, there's a lot of companies and then there's
a lot of people come and go. I'm sure you
know as an artists, you know it's coming go, But
there's only a few that stand to test the time man,
you know, and that comes from relationships. Man, You meet

(01:23:55):
people only years you meet people.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
Yeah, right, well you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
I want to thank you guys for being here. Maman
obviously all of your wisdom, expertise, mentorship. I just value
and respect you so much and I'm so glad to
be part of what's happening with world movement. And I've
even got Olivia and Stan they were both here and

(01:24:25):
just having knowing you guys have my back is amazing. Brandy,
I just adore you, and I am so excited for
twenty nineteen. I'm so excited to see where your music
is going to take you. I know that you put
a lot of time and energy into what you're doing
and it really shows in the finished product. And I

(01:24:49):
just love you as a person, and I can't really
say that about a lot of people, but you're one.
I can.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
I love and you guys can put up with.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Well love you. I love you, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
I'm going to close with the song and uh that's
just it, huh, not live.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
I gotta get I gotta get going to so all right, well.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Everybody listening, uh and uh, I'll be back next to
next Friday. And I believe my guest is going to
be Michael White. Michael White from Florida, who's an entertainer
in Florida, and uh, yeah, we have a lot in
common and it's gonna be a good show.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Thank you all for listening. I want to thank you
for taking time.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
To check out taking center stage with me UH Michael Cagle,
and thank you again to World Movement UH for this opportunity.
I appreciate you, guys. And here's my closing song. I
hope you guys like UH. I will see you guys
next week.

Speaker 11 (01:26:13):
I can almost see head that dream on dream and
there's a voice inside my head saying, you'll never read
every step I'm taking a can every move I make
things that's with no direction. My faith is shaken and.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
I gotta keep trying, gotta keep mine head alway's gonna
eno announce it.

Speaker 11 (01:26:53):
I'm always gonna want to nake him, always gonna ar
enough to have a battle happen, gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
At about half half targets here eat about what's wain
on the other.

Speaker 9 (01:27:13):
It's the club.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
The BA said, chi An take care.

Speaker 7 (01:27:26):
Sometimes I'm tacted down, got tumberate, happy do go, But
he's a bull. I'm most just gotta keep.

Speaker 10 (01:27:42):
Ball and.

Speaker 9 (01:27:46):
I got a bit try chakey pushy. Don't gonna be
a dobott who I don't want to be you always
want to do it up in battle. That's something's gonna

(01:28:06):
have to infibut digs. Think about West Week's Bunny out.
It's go