Episode 308: The BSI Midwest Canonical Conclave

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I Hear of Sherlock Everywhere, Episode three hundred eight, The
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and I'm Paula Poundstone. I knew it. I knew you
had been lurking this whole time.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, I could.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I could tell from that raspy voice that's me. Well, Paula,
have you checked your conclavian artery?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yes, I have. Unfortunately my conclave as a concussion, Oh goodness,
it is a concurrent concussion. Well, a constant concurrent concussion
around my trees. The three c's constant, concurrent, concussion, conconscious.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
And concussion.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well you know that as you look through your glasses,
if they are not conclave, they are conflex No no.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
That's true. Well, that's that's certainly is great. That's why,
that's why my newspaper is a lot bigger than that
cat across the street.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I suppose. Well, get the cats out of your system now, people,
we are here to talk about an event coming up
at the end of April twenty twenty five. Unfortunately registration
is closed for this. However, it is a significant event
and we wanted to talk to the instigator behind all

(03:18):
of it, Steve Doyle. You may recognize Steve from being
associated with the Wessex Press and publisher behind the Baker
Street Journal. Steve's no stranger to I. Hear of Sherlock everywhere.
He's been here with us before on Oh Gosh, going
on all the way back to episode two, episode twenty five,

(03:40):
where he talked about Sherlock Holmes for Dummies episode thirty three,
one forty five, one eighty seven and two eighty eight,
which I think that makes this his seventh appearance on
the show. I think in the interview we tally it
and we come up with a an on the fly
tally of eight, but I I think seven is the

(04:01):
correct number and the reason for the incorrect Halle during
the show is because I'm visually scanning down our archival page.
And by the way, if you don't know where to
find all of our archives, they're certainly in whatever podcast
app you happen to listen to us in, but you
can also find them on our website at ihose dot

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co slash ihose shows all lowercase i hoose dot co
slash i hose shows. That'll give you a link to
every single episode we've ever done. And as I'm scanning
through that, I'm doing a quick search for Steve Well.
That brings up Steve Rothman and Steve MX who've also
been on the show. So I do a scan for Doyle. Well,

(04:43):
goodness knows how many times we've talked about Sir Arthur
Conan Doyle. So you know, we are flying by the
seat of our pants, and instances like that when our
research team really has not done their job.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, if only artificial intelligence was more thoroughly developed, you
could turn to your AI assistant and say, Hey, AI assistant,
how many times has Steve Doyle appeared on our program?
And your AI assistant would come back and say, I
can help you with that, Scott. Yes, according to my calculation,
Steve and Doyle have appeared thirty seven times eighty seven,

(05:22):
four hundred and twenty two times.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Well, I'm it's dangerous because the intelligence here on our
show is already artificial.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, it's just like so, just like Sweet and Low,
it looks like intelligence, but it really isn't intelligence now
at all, and.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
It leaves an incredible aftertaste.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
I really like that.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
That's great artificial in touch. Just like Sweet and Low,
it's artificial and leaves an aftertaste. That's a great mark.
We should dial up chat GPT and see if they're
in the mood for a new slogan.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Well, I'll let you go to work on that while
I do the housekeeping here.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Folks.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Please, hey, sweep under the bed this time. All of
those dust bunnies that you've been leaving. I'm really disappointed.
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dollar a month. Well, it is time once again to
take a look at the learned societies. And as much

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as we're talking with Steve Doyle today about the bringing
together of a bunch of BSI Scion societies, well, our
friend Ron Fish BSI has been keeping the Sherlockian Calendar
for years and it's a wonderful look ahead at some
events that are happening. And if you happen to be

(07:52):
part of a Sherlockian group that isn't listed on the
Sherlockian Calendar, well, you can get in touch with Ron
at Sherlockian Calendar dot com. He has his email address
listed there on the website and you can send him
your updates and links to your website so that other

(08:14):
people can find out about it. So Bert, as we
look ahead into the month of May, what events do
we have coming up?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Well, we've got plenty. Why don't I do the first
half of them and then you do the second half
of them?

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Okay, I'll trust your math skills on this.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Then yeah, I can count. But that's about it one.
So in May there's number of things going on. Obviously,
the Sherlockian world is very, very busy. Let's start with
the physical in person events. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. May second, the
Sons of the Copper Beaches, now led by Mary al

(08:54):
Car We'll be having their dinner meeting in Philadelphia that
is the same day, very unusually, because the schedule has
been disrupted a bit by the Canonical Conclave this year,
only on the same day. Usually these things are not
on the same day. All the way north in Boston,
the Speckled Band of Boston will be having their annual

(09:15):
dinner meeting on May fourth, and Keen New Hampshire, the
Manda Adnach Sherlockians will be meeting in the contact there
is our friend Anna Barons. And then on May seventh, Wednesday,
May seventh, in New York you can contact Shana Carter
to find out more about the Ash Wednesday dinner and

(09:37):
then the virtual meetings May third, five miles from anywhere.
Derek Blanger is having a virtual meeting Steve Mason's crew
of the bark Lone Star as their virtual meeting on
May fourth. And then in Phoenix, Arizona, Lauren Sirconi is
the contact or secone is the contact for the Transfixed

(10:01):
Correspondence of Phoenix, another virtual meeting.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I'm interested in five miles from anywhere. Does it matter
where anywhere is if they're virtual.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
No, but it's completely accurate. If it's virtual, it's much
more than five miles from anywhere, I know. Do you know?
I think that may be sort of a quantum physics
kind of connection there. I mean, if it's five miles
from anywhere, you know, it might as well be you know,
completely random and unobserved.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Well, that was the dynamics of an asteroid, wasn't it,
Because it was moving at a constant speed. It was
five miles from anywhere at any given moment, Professor, you
astonish me, I astonish myself sometimes.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Carry the one, remember, carry the one.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Well.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Continuing with virtual meetings, on May tenth, the Shaka Shrlakians
of Hawaii, led by Joe Page have their virtual meeting.
I believe that's around one or two in the afternoon
Eastern time, which is early in the morning Hawaii time
and later in the evening on Greenwich meantime. So you

(11:11):
can check that out Shaka Sherlockian dot com in person.
We've got the parallel case of Saint Louis meeting in
Saint Louis under the guise of under the guidance I
should say of Rob Nonn it's May tenth. And then
on May fourteenth, in high Wood, Illinois, Brenda Rossini is

(11:35):
bringing together at the b Speckled Band. That's b ee
speckled band, the b speckled band. I like that, So
that sounds like it's a honey of a meeting. She
might want to check that out. So that brings us
through the first half of the month of May. Stay
tuned with us in the next episode where we covered

(11:57):
the second half and let us know. If there are
events that you have held or attended recently that are
worthy of comment you'd like us to share with the
wider listenership. Just get in touch with us a comment
at I Hear of Sherlock dot com. And meanwhile, get
out there and interact with other Sherlockians, because that's what this.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Hobby is all about. Oh, I counted wrong. I'm sorry
about that. I just did the first seven thinking we
were doing fourteen.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
But I told you I was relying on your math skills.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Well, look what happened. I wondered why I was in
Dunkin Donuts the other day and spend forty eight to
fifty on a cup of coffee.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
It was a regular only because you asked for seventy
eight creams in sweetened lost. It's that sweet and low again.
It's killing it.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
It is, it is, it is.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
I asked for delivery, that was the problem. I stood
there waiting for an hour and a half and I
wondered what happened. And it turns out they mailed it
to my house.

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to anyone around the I Hear of Sherlock Everywhere community.
As we said, he's been on the show seven times
before and Steve Doyle is a half one half of
the Sherlockian publishing company Wessex Press and Gasagene Books. He
has written or edited seven books on Sherlock Holmes, including

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Murderland GK. Chesterton, Sherlock Holmes, The Illustrious Clients Fourth Casebook,
and Sherlock Holmes for Dummies, as well as Clutches of
a Fiend, the facsimile of the original manuscript of The
Illustrious Client. He is also the publisher of the Baker
Street Journal. Steve Doll Welcome back to I Hear of

(16:01):
Sherlock Everywhere.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
It's good to be back here. I am yet again
my goodness.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
So do you get like a sash to have like
all of your I hose pins on for all the
episodes you've been on.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
I think it should be like Saturday Night Live, you know,
when they have like the Five Timers Club or whatever.
I get a jacket or something.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
That's not a bad idea, Yeah, Blazer, Holy cow. Well,
before we jumped into the chat room here, we're talking
about the recent conference in Dayton, which of course both
you and Bert were at, and we're here to talk
to you about yet another event coming up. And as

(16:44):
a matter now that I'm thinking about the very last
episode we had, we were talking with Joanna and Draper
Carlson about two to one Becon, which is also coming
up in the next couple of weeks. So it is
just event heavy season here in the Sherlockian world.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
It really is.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
You know, the spring following the BSID dinner used to
be sort of a I don't say dead zone, but
it was a pretty quiet time, and that is not
the case anymore. We had actually had a hard time
finding a window that didn't conflict with somebody else's event,

(17:24):
and I'm not even sure we were entirely successful at
that but you know, you just have to pick up
at some point, you just have to go. So because
it's a very busy spring is very busy, it is.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
And you know, we've started this recent feature on the
show called the Learned Societies where we are looking at
the Sherlockian Calendar that of course Ronfish keeps at cherloceanclendar
dot com and it is I'm sure he hasn't even
captured everything, but it's already chock full with multiple events

(17:58):
happening on multiple dates.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
So yeah, it's just it's it's a real service. People
should enter their events there because it is. It is
a go to place. So yeah, it's hard because otherwise,
you know, it's your You're we're piling up on multiple,
multiple events on the same weekend, so nobody wants to

(18:23):
do that.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Well, actually, before we get to the big reason we're
here to talk to you, you you actually have another
event coming up same day as I have one coming
up on April fifth, But yours is a very special one.
It only happens every so often. What is it and why?

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Well, yeah, on the on April fifth, by my Home
Science Society, the Illustrious Clients in Indianapolis. Uh, instead of
having a meeting a regular meeting, we are holding uh
Sheolockian auction. And we do this about every three years

(19:08):
or so. I mean that's kind of when we've been
able to do it. And what happens is, I think
it's just because our club has gotten pretty big and
it's gotten it's we're really super active and everybody, you know,
we're just everybody is kind of in this area knows

(19:28):
about it. So when somebody wants to downsize their collection, there,
you know, don't really know what to do with it.
Or unfortunately a fellow Sholockian passes away and the family
is wanting to they have no clue what to do

(19:48):
with that. They just want it to go to a
good home. Oftentimes we will get a large donation of material.
And my garage is loaded right now with many boxes
of stuff, and it just sort of reached a critical
mass and so in hopes of fun, you know, you

(20:09):
can't let stuff like that sit around in definitely before
it starts to you know, have a problem. So and
I'd like to get my garage back, So I like
to get my car back. So we're having an auction
and and it's I always say it's probably four separate donations.
Of course, the largest one is from our dear friend

(20:33):
Pat Ward, who died about a year and a half
ago to almost two years ago, No, I guess it
was last year. And her she was she was Sherlockian
Sherilocking for her whole life and quietly collected and who
knew how good her collection was. But it's very large
and very good. And so we're having a big auction

(20:56):
and everybody's invited to come. If you're in the neighborhood.
You'll have bargain prices, that is for sure. Everything must go.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
So yeah, and there were some rarities I've seen listed
on Facebook, things like an Oxford Sherlock Holmes, you know,
the entire nine volume collection of the Oxford Annitated Edition.
I think there was was bunding the Willow on there.
I think that is in there.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
I didn't. I don't think I posted that, but I
think that's in there. There's the full ten volume of
the volumes of the Sherlock Holmes Reference Library, which a
few of those volumes have been they're going back into
print this summer, thin goodness. But but they had been
out of print for a few of the earlier volumes
have been out of print for a couple of years,

(21:46):
and there's a but there's a full set there, including
the Apocrypha, which is if you go online and look up,
you can find copies of the reference libe very Apocrypha online.
And it's selling. It sold out. It's the fastest volume

(22:08):
that's sold out ever in that series, and it is
retailing for like three hundred dollars online. And I get
emails on a regular basis saying when are you bringing
up the Apocrypha? So if you really want to get
a copy, soon come to the auction. The whole set

(22:29):
is going up for auction. There's lots of great stuff
in there. Occasionally I would be you know, I was
spending a few days a couple of weeks ago sort
of going through all the boxes, and you know, there's
a if you're building a collection, you're younger Shrlockian, or
you're you're just building your Sharlockian collection, or you're just

(22:51):
an inveterate collector like some of us, you get to
a point where you realize that in a large collection,
there's there's like a twenty percent on this one eng
one end of the spectrum that's kind of e this
is kind of junk. We all got it, you know,
femera and we're you're just and then there's about sixty

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percent in the middle that's the solid this is the
stuff that you should have on your shelves, really good stuff.
And then there's that other twenty percent on the other
end of the spectrum that's like, well, what is this?
What is this doing in here? Do I have to
tell anybody this is in here? I guess I do. So.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
So when is the auction?

Speaker 3 (23:35):
It's Saturday, April fifth, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
And who do the proceeds benefit.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Well, the proceeds go to the general operating fund of
the Illustrious Clients. We're very active and we you know,
occasionally we need money to do things and then, but
we also have within the Illustrious Clients, we also have
a fund we call the Granger Fund, which is named
after a friend of ours, Meredith Granger, who passed away

(24:04):
a few years ago. He was one of the probably
the most prolific recruiter of New Sri Lakians to our
club we've ever known, and he's dearly missed, and so
he named this sort of anonymous it's sort of like
the Doctor Watson Fund. It's to help it's to assist

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some of our members in being able to afford to
come to clients meetings. We know everybody, not everybody can
afford to go all the time. We meet often, and
so there are some people on a budget I think
who availed themselves of the Granger Fund. It's been an

(24:45):
initiative of mine because I think I think our Science
Society is the richer for having everybody there. And I've
worked really hard at meeting the clients in trying to
reduce barriers to attendance. We put in, you know, the

(25:06):
kind of a virtual aspect you can attend virtually if
you can't even get here physically. We've put in the
Granger Fund, and we have very robust participation in the club,
and I think it's because we've worked really hard to
make sure to ensure that everybody in some way can

(25:26):
attend an illustrious Clients meeting, so some of them proceeds
will go to that too.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
That's excellent, and that's I'm glad you mentioned that because
this idea of participation, of getting people to turn out,
I mean, this is kind of the foundation for the
canonical Conclave and what we're talking about is this is
coming up at the end of April. The registration closes

(25:57):
as we record today, so as people listening to this,
well you already missed the window. But it's important to
know about this for a few reasons that you're you're
going to understand in a bit. But the BSI Midwest
Canonical Conclave happening on April twenty sixth in Indianapolis. Steve,

(26:18):
what is it and why is it important?

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Well, it's a gathering of it's hard to explain. I think,
you know, we have this sort of a paradigm in
our head. If it's not a local meeting, then the
other kind. The next way that we all participate in
our hobby is to go to a weekend conference like
the Dayton conference we just were talking about we were
just at and but this is not it's it's not that,

(26:48):
it's it's a I think of it as a very
large scion society meeting made up of science societies. It's like,
of course individu atend, but everybody, everybody who's there is
sort of identified with their particular science society. So it's
a collection of science societies coming together to have a

(27:10):
big science society meeting. That's sort of the way I
can explain it. So and the reason the really, you know,
it's it's kind of a long story.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
The well, we've got nothing but time here, all right.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
You asked for it, so here we go. So the
whole idea started. There's a couple of people who have
a some culpability in this. The we were at a
there was a conference, I think it was the one
that was in Saint Louis relatively recently last summer or so,

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and I was at this thing, and as we're wont
to do, we're sitting around in the bar at some point,
and and as often happens at these gatherings, somebody starts
talking about, oh, it's nice to see a few young
people here, but we really need to start getting people

(28:16):
to join Scion societies again. And and you know, we're
withering away, We're all you know, everything's and and and
I've been you know, we've all heard that kind of
sentiment in the past, and uh, I started, I've been
thinking about this, and I had already been thinking about this.

(28:38):
You know, we came through a rather stressful decade with
recently and without I'm not no judgment here. But there
was a lot of uh cultural uh clash between a
new new we're a younger wave of Sherlockings that came

(28:59):
in and a sort of the traditional Scholoki universe. And
for a while there it really seemed like like like
there was a new era dawning as far as long
term Sholokian activity and that sort of thing. And but
it was very stressful for a lot of people. I'm

(29:19):
all right around and I and coming out of that,
fortunately things settled down and everybody's cool. But coming out
of that, I think there there, I began to perceive
a sort of hunger for a revitalization of the traditional
Sholoki universe. People wanted to sort of feel the energy

(29:40):
in that part of the universe that had been going
on in this sort of fresh way that had come in.
So why are we we need vitality? And I was
feeling that way. I was thinking, this is the greatest
hobby ever. And you know, a good science society is
addictive and and we needed, you know, somebody should do

(30:02):
something about that. That was me. Somebody needs to do
something about this. And so here we are sitting around
in this hotel conference center bar when one evening and
I'm you know, we're all having this conversation and I'm
on my soapbox going yes, you know, blah blah. Anyway,
and Ira Matedsky says to me, Steve, I think you

(30:24):
should do something. You're you're you're you've obviously been thinking
about this. Well. You know when someone says essentially put
your money where your mouth is, you know you either
shut up or do something about it, right, So thanks Hirah.
So I So I thought about that a lot, and

(30:46):
I had I Shortly after that, I was invited to
speak at a meeting up in Chicago at the Tourist
International Society. You can speak on anything you want, Steve.
So I thought, well, here we go. We're just going
to dive in and do this right.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
So I reconomic development in the Bordering Nations of Available.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
It was a coin toss between that or no I
really did. I thought, well, this is an opportunity to
do this right. I'm going to uh I'm so I
sat down and wrote a sort of a history. It
was called Whiskey and Soidelity the unique history and power

(31:37):
of the Shrilokan Science Society. I'm sure some of you
must have both readers across the food and plain probably
have heard this. I ended up giving this talk at
least a half a dozen times in various places, and
it was very well received and the uh there was people.

(31:58):
The common thing that came back to me was this
is a real call to action. And I started to
notice that there was everybody. Every science society that I
gave this talk to suddenly became much more active. It

(32:19):
sort of was lighting a fuse. Every every time I
gave this talk, it sort of lit a fuse. I
think people did not understand or had kind of forgotten.
You know, we've had a lot of Gilockeans come into
the hobby who don't necessarily know the deep and fascinating

(32:40):
and significant history of are are science societies across the
across America and so I so it's kind of half
history lesson, half called to action. And it started it

(33:02):
started something. I'm trying not to you know, I sound
like from all that, but it just did. It started.
It started something. And as time went by, I also
started developing this idea of getting science societies to sort
of connect and understand the excitement that you can have

(33:28):
when you when these clubs start to kind of network
and connect with each other here in Indianapolis. One of
the things that I've really worked hard while leading the clients, well,
I really worked hard at is building bridges to other
clubs that are sort of in the Midwestern region. The

(33:51):
easiest way to do that is to start going to
other meetings, inviting other clubs to come to your meetings.
Then you begin to share resources and share and steal
ideas from each other and consults, because you know, every
club I've gone to, they've done something that was kind

(34:15):
of unique and I thought wow, and I would would
often contact whoever was running the club and inquire about
how did you do that or what's your what was
the success of that idea that you had, and in
turn inviting them obviously to do the same. I get
a lot of inquiries and so, but what happens is

(34:38):
you start to build this synergy in a broader area
than just the city that you live in. And it's
very exciting. And suddenly at the client we've been doing
this a while. So at the clients, we have maybe
a third of our attendants sometimes are from out of town,
from out of state, even you know, and it's really

(35:00):
it's wonderful. So all of that kind of said, you
know what, we should just go go for this, right,
we should just do something. And I had this idea
and I had been in conversation with Bob Katz and
Bob said, I think you should pitch this to the

(35:23):
BSI let's see if we can't get this going, And
so I drafted a proposal and it really forced me
to sort of think it out. So yeah, but next
thing you know, it's officially sanctioned Baker's Utter Irregulars event.

(35:46):
The official impromoter of the Irregulars is on this, and.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
And it's always intended to be just the first of
we we you know, we bill it as the Midwestern Conclave,
with the intention and hope that somebody else somewhere will
put one on where they live.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
So why should someone come to this? And let me
tell you why I'm asking that so directly. In scouting,
there is a training program called Woodbadge, or at least
there used to be, and what that was all about
was getting adult leaders together and essentially it would be

(36:33):
sort of like a giant patrol meeting over several days
that also imparted skills and so your notion here seems
to me to have similar profile in that I would
expect that I'm going to come away with, you know,
some ideas about how I can boost attendance and you know,

(36:54):
increase my audience and activities I haven't thought of. But
is that generals here?

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Not primarily. There's a window in the program called open discussion,
and I think that's where we will talk about that.
But I did not want to put on a sort
of professional development conference where people are gonna come and
learn how to you know, you know, I'm going to
teach you all how to the best practices for doing

(37:24):
the science society meeting. You know, first of all, everybody
does a science society meeting differently. Nobody does it exactly
the same as any other group. I mean, we can
draw from each other, and yeah, we can draw inspiration
from each other, and like I said, steal ideas from
each other. But there's probably as many ways to have

(37:46):
a science meeting as there is science. But there are
commonalities I think that that really make a difference. One
of them is enthusiasm and uh engagement group, you know, participation.
We've all been to meetings of one kind, even in

(38:06):
our own meetings sometimes where you go and it's like
the same three people do everything at every meeting. Well,
that's great, and those are you've got to have that core.
It's important that you have a core group. But I'm
telling you it took us if we worked at it
in the clients, and our participation level now is it's

(38:28):
sky high. We have lots of people doing things, and
we've built in ways, we've low things that really lower
the bar because people are shy and our people are
hesitant and they've especially if they've never done anything before.
I totally get it. So we've done ways sort of

(38:49):
to ease the ability for people to to participate in
the meeting. And because once you do once, once, once
somebody participates in some way, they're hooked that you know
they're back. And so we've been added a while. So
now we have a very high participation level and that

(39:10):
matters a lot in the in the vibrancy and ongoing
health of any club. Whether you're meeting in someone's home
or you're meeting in a restaurant, you're meeting in a
private club, it doesn't matter. That's a that's a universal thing.
So but it's not a professional development conference. It's a
it's fun. Let's face it, Charlotte Holmes is this hobby

(39:33):
is meant to be fun, and so there's gonna be
a little bit of that in the middle of the day,
you know. But but uh, it's not all about that.
So I wouldn't want to go to that.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, well, I mean that would be a big bait
and switch.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
If that's what happened to you.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Let me just ask you quickly, Steve. The meeting doesn't
start until halfway through the day, So this isn't like
an all day conference, right right, This is a half
day and going into the evening. Yes, but walk us
through the agenda.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
What's it?

Speaker 1 (40:11):
What's it going to feel like for it?

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Sure, I happen to have my schedule events right over here.
The one thing that's I mean, first of all, about
when the start time finished time. You know, a conference
will start early in the morning and go up through lunch,
go up into the evening, and there's a banquet and

(40:34):
sometimes depending on the conference, it will may even go
you know, the evening is often there's something the next day. Now,
this was definitely constructed that if you lived within a
few hours of the event, you could get in the
car early in the morning and drive there and make

(40:54):
it and attend it and maybe stay one night. And
if you really want to go home, you still could
I home and get home late. It was not built
to be a sort of all consuming weekend event. Now,
to our great surprise and happiness, especially surprise, there have

(41:18):
been a significant number of people who are coming from
great distances to attend this thing. And yes, yes it's true, Bert,
you're coming, and then so and I mean we've got
attendees coming from California and Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Florida, Georgia,

(41:42):
all up and down the East Coast and everywhere in between.
And I mean, I'm really excited about that, really super
happy about that. But I will tell you I'm a
little surprised because it was really built. It was built.
I'm thinking, well, who's going to go for you know this,
No one's going to come from Timbuktu to you know,

(42:03):
spend it Saturday afternoon and evening. But not that it
won't be worth it.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
But but.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
I just didn't. I don't know, I just didn't. I
thought this will be a regional thing, and but no,
we're getting them, getting people from everywhere, and.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Well, I mean it's the first of its kind, right,
so I think there's a national curiosity about it. People
want to discover this with you.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Yeah, I'm really really grateful for that. And the so
the day begins at one thirty built that you could
get into town, eat lunch somewhere, and then show up
at this thing. And so when you get there, the
first thing you're going to notice is it's a woodstock

(42:52):
club in Indianapolis, kind of not quite the smack center
of Indianapolis, a little on the it's about thirty eighth Street,
so it's a little north of the circle. Very nice facility.
We're gonna when you get there and you walk in
the first thing and you get to where this is happening,
the first thing you're going to see is a registration

(43:12):
table and after you register, you're going to walk through
a recreation of the two twenty one B sitting room,
which is going to be there. It's it shares a
space with the bar. So yeah, it's a win win,
So it's going to be really cool. We've got you

(43:38):
know a lot of people have stuff right like you know,
this is you know, Searlock Holmes had one of these.
I've got one too, you know. So we've got a
lot of donations to put together this recreation of of
two twenty one B, which I think is going to
be a real tone center. We'll just taking advantage of

(43:58):
that because there's a ballroom that we're in and then
in this outer room was just called the living room.
It's part of the arrangements, and so we said, well,
that's a nice day. Let's look at this nice fireplace.
Can we do something with this? That's right it so
so you can browse this, hang out in there, visit

(44:20):
with friends. There is gonna when you register, there's going
to be you're gonna be given a card, a index
card or something, and and a name of somebody else
who's attending here, and you are encouraged to at some
point encounter this person and finds out something about them,

(44:44):
so that when we do door prizes throughout the day.
The way we do this is your your if your
name is pulled out of the hat for a door price,
and you can say, oh, I met Scott Money, and
Scott Money is the new leader of the Amateur Mendicant Society.
Or Bert Wolder just went to the date and conference

(45:04):
something you know, some fact that they could say about
the person that they just met. They went into our.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Price, so something Sherlockian related or can it be you know.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Something Sherlockian. So yeah, so but that's just that's about
as intense as we get for you know, encouraging people.
I mean, we're gonna be encouraging people to mix and
mingle and get to know each other. But you know,
that's about as much arm twisting as we will do
to get people to do that. We want people to
be comfortable and have a good time. So then when

(45:41):
the day starts, it starts. When it kicks off, there's
an opening remarks, there's there's going to be a talk
by Mike mcswiggan. Now don't let this put you off anybody,
but it's going to be on Schrlockian chronology. Maybe I shouldn't.

(46:02):
Maybe I should have kept that to myself. We love you, Mike.
But there's a thing I'm very excited about at some point.
It's called the roll Call of the Scions. And this
is where this is astonishing, because we have I should
actually get the current number. Give me one second, gentlemen.

(46:25):
The we have a when you registered for this thing.
It asks you.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
For your.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Primary your primary science society, but then it also asks
for you to list any other clubs that you are
a member of. So taking both of those into account,
we have an astonishing eighty separate individual discrete science societies

(46:58):
represented in one way or another at this event. And
that is astonishing to me. So we're only going to
go by the primary science societies, but we're gonna have
every We're gonna call these science societies out. Everybody in
that club is gonna stand up and one, one designated
person will come up and it's gonna be like Schrilockian
Zion speed dating. They get one minute to talk about

(47:20):
their club, and we're gonna get to get every club
is gonna be represented like that, and I think that's
gonna build, and I think that's going to be very
exciting to see how many people. All these people here
who are sort of celebrating their their club. But we
have other talks, we have musical interludes, we have we

(47:41):
have we're gonna do what am I some classic science
society things. We're gonna have a period of Srilakian show
and tell. That's a that's turned into one of the
You know, I was talking earlier about ways that people
can participate, lowering the bar to uh to participation, and
that's one of them. Everybody's got something that they enjoy

(48:04):
and that they are proud of or have an interesting
story about. It doesn't have to be something. It doesn't
have to be a rare first editionary or anything. And
we're gonna do some of that, and we're gonna lots
of breaks, lots of social time talks. It's going to

(48:24):
be very lively and very a very fun day.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
So well, given that both Bert and I are going
to be there, I mean, we are looking forward to it.
You know, we've been talking about this for a while
among ourselves, and of course here from my own area
in Michigan, we've got I think at least four of

(48:48):
us that are coming down, So we'll be carpooling and
probably singing Aunt Clara and rounds like the whole way down.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
All that would be good to practice.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
And to me, this is interesting too because the camaraderie
doesn't just begin and end when the doors open and close.
And this is the thing I always experience going to
the BSI weekend in New York. I would drive down
from Boston with Tom Francis and Richard Olkin, and half
of the fun of the whole weekend would be spending

(49:24):
time with those individuals. And then you arrive in New
York and you split up and you all go anyways.
You come back together and you go home and you
exchange views of well, what did you see and who
did you talk to?

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Stories?

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Yeah, yeah, And I mean that you're essentially creating a
regional microcosm of that very same kind of phenomenon in
a way.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
I think that's true. And because it is a Baker
Street Regulars event, we're going to be talking a lot
about science society, but we're gonna get a little bit
of BSI tradition along the way to because you know,
the relationships between the science societies are very important. I
think it's vital.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
I think the.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
To be siloed and and sort of out of touch
with the rest of the community I think is a
real detriment to any club. But you know, the bs I,
this is a little bit of the out of the
talk I gave. You know, everybody thinks that the BSI
is a real top down organization, but that's not right,

(50:32):
that's not true. The BSI is a ground up organization.
Virtually everybody, not everybody clearly, but almost everybody who's in
the BSI came out of a science society and and
I think the BSI has kind of woken up to

(50:54):
that idea. We all kind of just are going about
our busy lives and all our business, and we sort
of lose track of this kind of thing sometimes. But
I think that it's really true, And you know, the
I know the I think the BSI benefits clearly benefits
from a robust, healthy science society world, and I think

(51:20):
benefits from having a I think it's time to build
that a stronger relationship between the irregulars and the scions.
And I think the science clearly benefit from it too,
being having a stronger and closer relationship with the BSI
and each other. And I think it's it's not vertical,

(51:42):
it's not horizontal, it's everything. And I think once we
all kind of embrace that and work toward that, I
think it's a better experience for everybody.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
So well, you know, Steve, you and I talked shortly
after I assume the the gas agen ship. I don't
know is that a word gasagenic.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Gasagen Ship think now.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
After I joined the executive committee of the Amateur Mendicant Society,
because I realized that the Mendicants in particular, like the
Illustrious Clients, are one of what I call the original Eight.
You know, I don't know if we have many hockey
fans that are listeners, but the NHL, the National Hockey League,

(52:32):
has the original six, and it's made up of teams
that started the franchise and are still in the NHL today,
the Canadians, the Maple Leafs, the Bruins, the Rangers, the Blackhawks,
and of course the Detroit Red Wings. And when you
go down that list of original eight for science societies,
you've got the Speckled Band, the Hounds of the Baskerville

(52:54):
in Chicago, the Scourers and Monty McGuire's in San Francisco,
the Amateur Men, the Six Napoleons of Baltimore, the Illustrious
Clients of Indianapolis, the Norwegian Explorers in Minnesota, and the
Sons of the Copper Beaches in Philadelphia. And to me,
it seemed like there's an opportunity to create this network

(53:15):
between these eight very geographical disparate societies through that one
commonality that they have, which was their early origins within
not within the BSI, but during those early days of
the BSI and the Baker Street Journal just getting started,
and it was a really exciting time. And I think,

(53:38):
you know, if you have a network like that with
people and you're learning from them and you're trading off ideas,
then it's going to expand. And to me, seeing you
do this at the regional level is just taking another
slice at that right and offering it up to many
different people. So here's after that long diatribe, here's my question.

(54:01):
How can we expect other Sherlockians in other regions who
might be interested in almost taking like a template from
what you have here and then applying it, say to
the northeast or the southwest, or you know, wherever they
may happen to live.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Well, I do know that we have several people have
actually said to me, I'm coming from wherever far away
because I want to see how this is done. I
think this needs to be done here on the East coast.
I think California. I've heard it from California too, so

(54:40):
I think I would come first of all. My best
advice is to come and experience it. I think that's
the uh, that's an important aspect of it. But I
also think that if you if you did not make
it and want to do it, just ask me. Just

(55:02):
contact me. I'll tell you an I'll share everything I
know about doing this. Contact me afterwards, because I'll know
a lot more about what worked and what didn't right,
So I expect it will all work, but he says optimistically,
But it is the first one out of the gate,
so we're all we're all going to be building it together,

(55:22):
is how I look at it.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
But and is your vision that each one would be
BSI sanctioned?

Speaker 3 (55:31):
Oh yes, I think there's really I think that matters.
I think it has mattered. In the registration for this.
You know, we were full. I mean I didn't think
we'd get full. I mean we but we are. I
mean I mean I thought if we get seventy five,

(55:54):
I'll mean probably get one hundred. So it's you know, it's, yeah,
we're way over what I even hope to get. But
I think that's because it's got the official impromoter of
the Baker's Treeter regulars. You know, the Baker's Streeter regulars
still matter, you know, there are people are who say, well,

(56:21):
you don't have to be in the BSI, and you don't.
You do not have to be in the BSI. But
you know, whether we know, the BSI still largely chart
the course and define the hobby the traditional hobby anyway.
And this is why I think it's very important for

(56:45):
both sides of that equation too to be have a
stronger connection, because I think the health of the science
societies are vastly improved by being reminded of the history
and where they've come from. Ultimately, this original eight, that explosion,

(57:07):
that big bang explosion of science societies in the nineteen forties,
talk about doing a new thing. That's who was doing
a new thing. Those guys they invented there was like
the big bang. They invented the Sherilokian hobby. And spontaneously,
that's the amazing thing when you really look at it,

(57:29):
it kind of exploded out of you know, the sort
of amorphis there were guys writing we need comments in
this Saturday Review of Literature and trading postcards with each other,
and you know, that sort of thing. But suddenly something
happened and kaboo, Now we have a Schriloki a real

(57:52):
Shechloki universe. Coast to coast science societies sprouting like dandelions
across the food plane. You know, they are boom not here.
One day. We all if you have a yard and
you have had dannilions, you know what I'm talking about.
One day they're not there. The next day there's a
bunch of them. That's what it was like. And they're
all there. And these guys were so on fire with

(58:12):
what they were doing. They were you know, if you
have ever had the opportunity to read the correspondence between
it was going on between these earliest first rank of
science societies, it's intoxicating. You can the excitement and energy
that these guys are and the joy that they're experiencing.

(58:37):
It's palpable. And so I'm you know, I would like
to get some of that back. I think it's comeback
some And like I said this, a fewse got lit
about a year or a year and a half ago,
and it's been building and and it's very exciting to
me anyway, it's a very exciting thing, and I think

(58:58):
that ebodes well for the future of our hobby. I
think it's the greatest hobby ever and you know, we
just want everybody to have a big time and experience
it to its fullest, their fullest potential.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Well, from the primordial Ooze to the modern day BSI,
here we are, and we have Steve Doyle leading the
charge with the first with the inaugural BSI Canonical Conclave
for the Midwest happening on April twenty six, twenty twenty five.

(59:34):
If you're going to be there, we'll look forward to
seeing you. Drop us a line and let us know.
If you're not going to be there, well, I'm sure
we'll have some things to say about it after we
get back, and we'll have some lessons learned and all
the rest. But either way, it's going to be an
exciting time. And Steve, thank you for sharing your passion

(59:55):
and your vision behind all of this with us here
on I hear of Sherlock everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Well, thank you, guys. It's always fun to be on
the show. I figured I've lost track how many times
I've been here, but.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
I I'll pull it up if you give me a second.
Let's see Steve Doyle episode thirty three. What was your
first time? I think no, you were with us Sherlock
Holmes for Dummies. That was episode twenty five. You're with
us on episode two hundred eight excuse me, two hundred

(01:00:31):
and eighty eight, Clutches of a fiend. That was an
illustrious client we were talking about. Talked with us about
Sherlock Holmes review on episode one eight seven. Let's see
from Gillette to Brett on episode one forty five, myank, goodness,

(01:00:52):
embarrassing you got we I'll have to have to show
up with your jacket.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
I think I was on after Jeremy Brett died too
or something.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Yeah, that was episode thirty three. You and David Stewart Davies, Yes,
just remembering Edward Hardwick and you were on. You were
actually our very first guest when we talked about wessex
Press on episode two.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Wow. So there you go eight times.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Sorry everybody, two more and you get a jacket. Yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
Two more to get a jacket.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Yes, that's great. Well we got to come up with
the whole line of ihos merch.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Now there you go. Well, thanks guys, that's really been fun.
I always enjoy coming on the show. It is the
Cadillac of SHERLOCKI Podcast, So it's an honor to be
asked to come on.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
So we'll keep sputtering along.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
You know you are. Steve is absolutely dead right when
he says that the Baker Street Irregulars is a ground
up organization, and it was great to hear, you know,
you two talking about the early days and the birth
and the explosion of this from the ground up. And
you know, in the writing that I've done lately about

(01:02:22):
major figures in the world of the Baker Street Regulars
and looking at the research and going back and reading
the history of the irregular history, it's those personalities. It's
those people. It's the idea of being with friends and
having things like this to talk about. It's just absolutely fundamental,
and it's exciting to be able to share that with

(01:02:47):
more people and to see that it's still relevant after
all this time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
It really is. And I mean we've said this since
our very earliest episodes, is that this hobby really is
all about the people. And you mentioned the BSI being
ground up, and I don't mean in terms of coffee.
But this is uncanny because just this week on my

(01:03:18):
business podcast, I interviewed a couple of authors who had
written a book about finding meaning in your work, and
they in turn, had interviewed some plant forestry biologists who
discovered that in ancient redwoods, there is a network of

(01:03:41):
roots in the ground in the forest by which all
of these trees communicate with each other to determine the
relative health of the vast array of trees, right to
make sure that the forest itself was healthy. And they
likened that to the way, you know, you create morale

(01:04:03):
in organizations. And it struck me as Steve was talking
about this kind of you know, the seminal big bang,
if you will, that there was this grassroots of simultaneous explosion,
this kaboom where it's the kaboom, there's supposed to be

(01:04:24):
an earth shattering kaboom that united all of these Sherlockians,
you know, irrespective of geography. And ultimately they were able
to form these connections, and obviously the modes of communication
improved that they went beyond postcards and letter writing and

(01:04:45):
newspaper columns and eventually sprouted into what we know today.
And here we are today on a podcast talking about
things that are uniting people all over the world who
have an interest in Sherlock Holmes. It's really remarkable. Yeah, well,
we've got a treat for you. Once again, we're going

(01:05:06):
to line up our friend Madeline Kenyonez with her report
on the latest Sherlockian podcast. It's a chance of listening
with your correspondent, Madeline Kiinyonez.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
Hello. Everyone, I'm Madeline kiyanis in just in time for
the start of April. I'm excited to tell you about
the latest Sherlock and a Jason podcast. If you've enjoyed
Scotten Bert and I Hear of Sherlock Everywhere but can't
get enough of them, you're going to love this new podcast,
I Hear Of, I Hear of Sherlock Everywhere Everywhere. This

(01:05:44):
is a new show featuring notable writer Eric Deckers and
actually yours truly as the co host, and it explores
the original I host canon. We've planned on discussing all
three hundred and eight episodes, plus any future episodes. I
was so excited when Eric inviided me to join him
on I Hear Of, I Hear of Charlock Everywhere Everywhere,

(01:06:07):
and we're committed to a weekly output, at least I'm
not the one editing. In fact, after nearly eleven months,
we just finished episode of forty one, entitled The woman
when our heroes interviewed Laura Polver, who played Irene Adler
in BBC Sharlock. This podcast fills a huge hole for

(01:06:28):
I Hear of Charlock Everywhere enthusiasts. For too long, fans
have fumbled their way in the dark to find each other,
only stumbling on to one another's through random encounters at bookstores,
sherlocking conferences, and certain distreputable places. Future episodes of I Hear,

(01:06:48):
I Hear of Charlock Everywhere Everywhere will also include interviews
with other fans and notable I Josian scholars who have
written scholarly articles about these original episodes. We'll even talk
with all authors of the dozens of I host fastiches,
and even some of the more popular COSS players. Now,
my favorite part of the show is the seminal sonnets.

(01:07:11):
Each week, we read a fourteen line lyric poem about
a past episode or guest contestants write down the fourteen
lines and figure out which episode the sonnet is about.
We choose a winner at random, and that person receives
a piece of I host paraphernalia from our vaults. This
week's prize is Scott's wallets, which he thought he lost

(01:07:34):
it this year's Baker Street Irregular's annual Dinner Scott. If
you want it back, you'd better enter this week's seminal Sonnet.
We've also gotten a lot of interest from fans to
create an academic type journal that's dedicated to iho'siana, as
well as a blog and a weekly comic strip that

(01:07:54):
details the hilarious adventures of young Scott and Burt getting
into various misadventures their private school. We're also in discussions
with noted ihose and publisher MMXX Publishing about funding for
a spinoff podcast that we'll examine past episodes of I
Hoos's own spin off. We're calling it free Prairies. We'll

(01:08:16):
look at some of the past scholarship about trifles like
which episodes were solo efforts by Scott or Bert, how
many times Bert made Scott laugh and vice versa, the
color of Scott's bow ties, or the state of words
special hair.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
As far as highlights go, well.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
You'll be doing well to start with the first episode.
Plus our next episode drops on April first, so be
sure to subscribe to I Hear Of, I Hear Of
Sherlock Everywhere, Everywhere through your favorite podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
App and uh.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
April.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
It's wonderful. That's good, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
I I'm trying to figure out how to pronounce the
apron iho ihosey.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Goodness, absolutely fabulous. That that's absolutely, absolutely fabulous fabulous.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Thank you Eric and Madeline for that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
I know the brain.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
The brainstorm for that came from Eric, who had written
it up a couple of years ago on his Laughing
Stock website. We'll have a link to that to his
original release from the Sherlock Holms Birthday weekend of twenty
twenty three. But we we do appreciate the creativity, the
attention and the use of the word I Hooseiana.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
That has to have something to do with socks, doesn't it,
I hosannah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
I mean, you know, I think we're missing an opportunity
here for our own line of merch ihosiery ihosary.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Yeah, that's really great or cosplay. You know, I'd love
to go to a Sherlockian conference dressed like myself. That
would be that would be really unusual, wouldn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Well, I think you'll be secure in the notion that
no one else will be dressed as you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
That's true, boy, I'll be the only one yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Well you recognize those delta tones. Of course, it is
time for the canonical couplet, not the seminal sonnet, where
we give you two lines of poetry and we ask
you to come up with which Sherlock home story we're
talking about. Now, if you were around here the last time,
they recall we gave you this clue. We gaily watch

(01:10:50):
a wicked man's disease while Holmes and faithful Watson.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Break the peace.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Bert, do you know which Sherlock Holmes story we're talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Oh? Absolutely, that's the case where Missus Neville Saint Clair
flies to the side of Mary Morston Watson to complain
that her laundry delivery service since her ruined undergarments. That's
the case Watson called the van with the twisted slip.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
God, wow, well something's twisted about that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
I know that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Holy cow. Now, I'm sorry to tell you Bert, that's
not correct. Oh no, I know you're shocked.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Shocked.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Well, in this case, it's our pal Eric Deckers to
the rescue, once again, saying I've solved it. That is,
unless Scott and Burt pulled the football away at the
last second. It's the story of a little round headed
kid who gets picked on by everyone until he opens
up a blackmail stand, charging everyone five cents not to

(01:12:08):
reveal their deepest secrets. It's the story Watson called, You're
a bad man, Charlie Milverton, except I think I fell
asleep reading Charles Schultz again, this is more likely to
be the adventure of Charles Augustus Milverton. Yes, Eric, you
actually have succeeded in outwinning Burt this time. And we

(01:12:36):
didn't have too many correct entries on this, so this
was a difficult one. I think that diseased man threw
folks off. So we have a very small prize wheel
that we're going to pull out. I'm going to give
it a spin. It's going around a lot quicker because
it's a smaller wheel, and that's landing on number three,

(01:12:59):
and that corresponds to oh, our friend Christopher Chan. Congratulations
to you, sir. We'll have something from the Ihose vaults
sent your way. And now for folks who would like
to try their hand that this canonical couple, we do
have another item from the Ihose vaults. There's something from

(01:13:21):
a book nature. I think we will give you this clue,
this lengthy narrative of labor ructions includes are Sherlock's very
best deductions. If you know the answer to this episode's
canonical couplet, put it in an email address to comment
I hear of Sherlock dot com with canonical couplet in

(01:13:44):
the subject line. If we choose you at random from
all of the correct entries, you'll win. Good luck. Oh
my goodness, here we are.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Have you started packing for the conclave yet?

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Well, actually, I use compression socks to pack for conclaves.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
That's the ultimate, and iosary.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
The ultimate and ihosiery. Yes, conclave compressions are consistently comportable
and comfortable, friends. And in fact, if you forget your
socks when you go to the canonical con the Canonical,
the cononical canonical Conclave, you can always put your foot
in one of your compression socks or your compression socks
and see what you can do with only four toes.

(01:14:34):
Oh my goodness, you will stroll down the airport on
your way to the canonical Conclave and listen to the
sound of children asking their parents, Daddy, why is that
man walking so strange?

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
But at least you know we'll all be healthy with
our compression socks on.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Yes, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
We didn't have a chance to continue the conversation with Steve.
But for those in the UH in the medical field,
we will be having a colonical conclave in a few weeks. Yeah,
there's there's a prep time in advance of that, so
it should be fun. Yes, well, until we're around here

(01:15:17):
with you next time. This is the highly canonical Scott Monty.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
And I'm always comfortable Bert Wolder.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
And together we say the games the foot, the foot,
the games of the foot.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
You know, I'm afraid with the pleasure of this conversation,
I'm neglecting business of importance which awaits me.

Speaker 5 (01:15:56):
Thank you for listening. Please be sure to join us
again for the next episode of I Hear of Sherlock Everywhere,
the first podcast dedicated to Sherlock Holmes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Goodbye and good luck and believe me HB, my dear fellow,
that is SINCENNI yours, Sherlock Holmes.

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