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September 30, 2025 75 mins
“a member of an aristocratic club” [BERY] 
Sherlockians from around the world joined the members of the Sherlock Holmes Klubben i Danmark earlier this year to mark their 75th anniversary. While the club first met in 1950, the Danish appreciation of Sherlock Holmes is as old as the Great Detective himself, when translations, movies, and parodies of his cases first graced the pages of the country’s newspapers. Join us for a wide-ranging discussion with Christian Monggaard, BSI ("Neville St. Clair") to discover the exceptional community of artists and writers who first brought Holmes to the Danish public and formed the first societies. You’ll hear about noted the artists and illustrators Robert Storm-Petersen and Henry Lauritzen, and learn the twists and turns that led to Christian’s career as a film critic and journalist.Of course we lead off with Sherlockian gatherings for the second half of November in "The Learned Societies" segment. Madeline Quinones is back with "A Chance of Listening," and the Canonical Couplet quiz tests your Sherlock Holmes knowledge, with something from the vaults for the winner. Send your answer to comment @ihearofsherlock.com by October 14, 2025 at 11:59 a.m. EST. All listeners are eligible to play.As a reminder, our supporters can listen to the show ad-free and have access to occasional bonus material. Join us on the platform of your choice (Patreon | Substack). 
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Speaker 4 (03:37):
Well, We've got a really interesting show for you today.
It's an interview with Christian Montguard from the Sherlock Holmes
Club in Denmark. He's going to give us a little
bit of history on the organization and what it's up
to seventy five years on now as one of the
leading international Sherlock Holmes societies, and you're going to hear

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something about Christian as well and his chosen profession in
the film industry. So it should be something that appeals
to well just about everyone who is listening. This time around,
we will also have for you our usual roundup of
events in a segment that we call why am I

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blanking on this? What do we call this segment?

Speaker 5 (04:28):
Yeah?

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Yeah, and a segment that we call the Learned Societies.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
No, it's the Learned Society, The.

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Learned Societies, Learned Pippi, the Learned Societies. We have another
Sherlock in Podcast review from Madeline Kennonis, and of course
we have the canonical couplet, where we give you two
lines of poetry and you tell us which Sherlock Holmes
story we are referring to, and if you are among

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you get to enjoy the show in either format. Okay,
it sounds like we're marching into the hallowed halls of
Sherlockian organizations. Bert, where do we find ourselves with respect
to these learned societies?

Speaker 5 (07:11):
In Adelaide in South Australia On November sixteenth, the Sherlock
Holme Society of South Australia will be having afternoon tea
and Mark Challou can tell you all about that at
Adelaide Rascals dot com.

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Speaker 3 (07:29):
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The Sound of the Baskervilles will also be meeting on
the sixteenth. There's a virtual meeting there. David Hougan is
the contact and they are at Soundothebaskervilles dot com.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Yes. Also on the sixteenth, Madison, Wisconsin, notorious Canary Trainers,
you're having a meeting in person. Glenn Link can tell
you more about that, and they have a website at
Comicsworthreading dot com. All one word slash Canary Trainers. You
can check that out excellent.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Well, if you are in Columbia, Maryland or thereabouts, Watson's
Tin Box of Ellicott City, we'll be hosting a dinner
meeting on November the seventeenth. Matt Hall's your contact there
and Watson's tin Box dot org is where you can
find out more about the society.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
And if you are prone to fright, you're going to
want to stay far away from the Sherlock Holmes Society
of the Cape Fear because they're having a virtual meeting
on the eighteenth of November. Tom Campbell can tell you
more and they have a great r L for their
organization www. Sherlock Holmes Soociety dot com. All one word,

(08:48):
how about that?

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Wow, that's fantastic. Well, the Afghanistan Perceivers of Oklahoma are
having a virtual meeting on the twentieth of November. Brian
Wilson is the contact there and you can find them
at Tulsa Dash Sherlock dot org.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
And also on the twentieth virtual meeting of the Honorable
Ronald Adair Las Vegas card Room and shuffling the deck
there is Carolyn Coleman and she can tell you.

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More shuffling the deck. We'd be shuffling on the deck,
I think you and I. On November twenty first, in
Saint Charles, Missouri, the Harpooners of the c Unicorn will
be having their meeting. Jonathan Bassford is your contact there.
You can find them a Harpooners dot WordPress dot com.

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And our friend Denny Dobrie is having a meeting in Mechanicsburg,
Pennsylvania of the White Rose Irregulars on November twenty second,
and he can tell you more about that.

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And also on November twenty second in Irvington in New York,
the Three Garadebs of Westchester County we'll be having an
in person gathering. You can find them at Threegaradebs dot
com and Ben and Sue Vezowski are your contacts.

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And Toronto, Ontario, Canada, the Friends of the ACD Collection
at the Toronto Public Library are having their twenty fourth
annual Cameron Hollyer Memorial Lecture November twenty fifth. Cliff Goldfarb
is the contact for that and they have a website

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at www ACD friends dot org.

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And it looks like that will rap things up for
the month of November. I think the Sherilockian Calendar gets
cut short because it is Thanksgiving weekend directly after the
twenty fifth. There so a little bit of a quiet
period leading into December. We hope that you get to

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participate in the Sherlockian activities that are near and dear
to your heart. And if you have a Sherlockian society,
belong to one and you're not listed on the Sherlockian Calendar,
get in touch with Ron Fish. You can find his
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all of their latest books and audio recordings. There's so
much for a Sherlock Holmes fan to enjoy on MX
publishing dot com. Christian Monguard has been a film critic
and journalist at the Danish daily newspaper Information since nineteen

(13:06):
ninety seven. Prior to that, he was editor of the
film magazine Moving Images.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
He's been a.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Freelancer for magazines in Denmark and abroad, has done radio
for the Danish Broadcasting Corporation, and hosts two podcasts, one
on collecting the other on films. Christian lectures extensively on
films and television around Denmark and has written a dozen
books on Danish films and television directors and Danes in Hollywood.

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He's currently working on a book on Terry Gilliam with
the collaboration of mister Gilliam himself. Christian is an avid
collector of Sherlockiana, lego typewriters, old film cameras, film memorabilia,
films on physical formats, and comic books. He's been a
member of the Sherlock Holmes Club in Denmark since twenty

(13:57):
eleven and serves on its board as investiture with the
Baker's Treated Regulars in twenty twenty five as Nevill Sinclair
Christian Montnguard. Welcome to I hear of Sherlock everywhere.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
Thank you so much. It's been always been dream of
coming on this show, and now I'm here and I
can't believe it. I'm shaking all over.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Well, I know exactly how you feel, Christian, I'm shaking
all over all the time. But it has nothing to
do with the podcast.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Well, let's hope we keep those dreams alive and make
this worth your while. I know we're excited to be
talking to you, and it's always a joy to meet
a Dane as if I could paraphrase Sherlock Holmes. But Christian,
why don't you tell us how you first met Sherlock Holmes.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
Well, actually, when I usually tell this story and and
and it is actually more or less true. It's when
I was born, my mother put three things above my
crib and and those three things say a lot about
who I am today and the interests I have and

(15:16):
the work that I do. But she put Donald Duck magazine.
She put three Hitchcock and the Three Investigators book, and
a volume of Shellock Hombs. So I have actually been
blot up on the Three Invasive Investigators, Alfred Hitchcock, Donald

(15:37):
Duck and Shelock Holmbs. So it's been in my life.
Shellock Holmes has been in my life always.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
That's amazing.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
That is amazing. Well, I have to stop you right
there and just ask you to tell me something about
your mother. That's remarkable. What were what were her interests?
How did she come to have those those three wonderful
icons to associate with you?

Speaker 6 (16:01):
Yeah, it's that is a really good question. What I
know is that she's she loves to read, and she's
always loved to read, and her love of books she
passed on to me. And I've always read since I
was five years old or something like that. I started reading,
and I was reading all the time, and I was
always taking books out of the school library and then

(16:24):
the public library after that, and so my love of
reading came from her. She's always been interested in crime fiction,
and of course it started out with Agatha Shellock Holmbs
of course, but also Agatha Christie, Dorothy L. Sayers, Chesterton,
all those classic British crime things that I was reading

(16:46):
as well from from a young age. And my favorite
has always been Shelock Holmes, but I'm quite fond of
especially Aquil Poirot as well. So it's it's and then
when they started sending the chair pretty I've I was
born in seventy two, so I've been what fifteen sixteen
something like that when they started out started sending or

(17:10):
transmitting the Grenada Sheolow Comb series with German Breda Sheolo
Combs on daily television and that all you know, that
really grabbed me too. That he's my Sherlock Hombs, I
have to say, so. So so that's that's how I
I I that where my my kind of interest in
Hurlockem really criticalized was when I was in my in

(17:34):
the middle of my teen years, and and it's it's
I have to say, I think it's all because of
my mother.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
A what a wonderful influence. And you know, those those
early eighteen years tend to be very impressionable. You know,
what we we read, what we consume during those formative
years as we're you know, still as we're coming out
of you know, more childish things and into more adult,
mainstream things. They really do leave a marked impression. And

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you know, we've heard from all kinds of people, people
who have grown up with say Basil Rathbone or Douglas Wilmer,
or Peter Cushing or Jeremy Brett or Benett Cumberbatch, and
it tends to last. So it's great to hear that
impression is there with you as well. So Christian, I'm
interested in your professional life and you know you talk

(18:28):
about you sure lot homes on the screen obviously, but
these two things tend to intertwine. So how did you
get into film criticism?

Speaker 6 (18:41):
That's also a good question. When I was in high school,
I started reading a film I've always been interested in films,
but when I was in high school, I started reading
a Danish film magazine, Cold Movie Images or Leunapila in Danish,
and that kind of fueled my intro for films even more.

(19:02):
And it was at a friends how the friend's house,
and it turned out that this friend also worked at
the local cinema in my hometown in Jutland. So I
started working in that cinema as well too, and he
quit the job, and so I became kind of both
a film booker and a projectionist and those all those
kinds of things, and that was through my high school

(19:22):
years and it kind of grew from there. So I
was buying Sallow Combs books at the local antiquarian bookshop
and film books, so those and comic books as well.
So those those were the kind of the three big
things in my life at that time. It was actually
a lot of Marvel and DC comics, superhero comics, but
also European comics. And then I was buying Shallow Combs

(19:44):
books and also how I found out about Shallow Comes
Clube in Denmark, and then I also bought film books.
So's it kind of yeah, it grew out of those things.
And then I went to university in Copenhagen in the
early nineties and I started out studying classical archaeology of course,

(20:06):
as you do. And I was a big Indiana Jones fan.
What can I say? Exactly, but it turned out that
classical archaeology has absolutely nothing to do with Indiana Jones.
So I stopped again. And then the film magazine I

(20:26):
had started reading a few years earlier sought a kind
of volunteer help, and I started volunteering at the magazine.
All of a sudden, I was writing in the magazine.
Then the editor needed something a right hand man, and
that became me. And after two years he quit his
job and they couldn't find anybody who would be editor
of the magazine for that measly pay they were handing

(20:51):
out every month, So I volunteered for that as well,
and then I became the editor. I was the editor
for this magazine for two and a half years and
then it went bankrupt, I'm afraid to say. And then
at daily newspaper, and that was in ninety seven, a
daily newspaper called INFORMATIONWN Information called me and said do
you want to write for us? And I've been there

(21:14):
ever since. So I'm a kind of I'm a self
taught film writer and now I do lectures. I have
a couple of podcasts. One of them, Mood is about films.
I write books as well. I'm publishing a book in
the beginning of October about a Danish director. I've written

(21:38):
I think ten fifteen books now, some of them large
coffee table books weighing three kilograms, which is I'm trying
to top myself all the time that they have to
be heavier and bigger for every book.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
So just find a publisher who uses heavier grade paper
and you'll be okay.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
Exactly, and then I don't have to write.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
A exactly exactly. So I'm interested on the film site
here for a bit. If we can pause on this
area of your life. Of course, you mentioned obviously being
self taught, but you also mentioned in your formative years
doing things all the way down to running the projector

(22:23):
is your talk to us a little bit about your
interest in film. Do you take more of a technical
perspective on things, a more artistic spent on things, more
of a storyteller? What's your angle on this?

Speaker 6 (22:41):
I think that what I love the most about films
is being told a really good story. And I grew up,
as I said, I was born in seventy two, so
I grew up with well all the American films of
that era of the seventies and eighties. I grew up
with Spielberg and Lucas and Scorsese and Coppola and the Palma,
and you know, I started getting into David Cronenberg things

(23:03):
like that. Who's Canadian, I know, But it was very
much all the kind of the American fantasy, adventure science
fiction films of the seventies and eighties that really came
to mean a lot to me. I just wrote an
essay for my newspaper recently about the film year nineteen

(23:26):
eighty five where quite a few formative films of my
life was shown in cinemas, and one of them was
The Goonies, this adventure film by Richard Donna, which is, well,
I guess if you see it as a kid today,
perhaps it's not that good, But then it meant the
world to me because it kind of gave me all

(23:47):
the adventure that perhaps I felt that I needed in
my own life. It also gave me all the friends
that I perhaps felt that I needed in my own life.
So it's kind of an escape in that sense. And
that's also with with all the books, especially Sherlock Holmbs,
but also the comic books. It's always been a kind
of an escape for me. So when I go to

(24:07):
the cinema now as a film critic and as a
film editor at my newspaper, and I go to film
festivals around the world, especially the Film Festival in Cannes
in France every year. I have to watch a lot
of different kinds of films. But my original love of
films came from Star Wars. It came from the first

(24:28):
film I can remember watching was Et with my mother
in a cinema in my hometown when I was what
ten eleven years old something like that, and we were
both crying. That's the first kind of cinema experience I remember.
And then a lot of other experiences, of course, with
Star Wars and with the Goonies and Back to the

(24:48):
Future and all those kinds of films. The Godfather and
then Scorsese came with Taxi Driver and kind of changed
my life in that sense. And Cronenberg came with films
like Scanners and The and Dead Ringers, all these really
horrible films that are quite fantastic as well. So I
was very much I can tell you that I was
very much in in my high school years. I was

(25:12):
very much into splatter films, horror films, slasher films. The
more bloody the better you know, it was go all
over the place. I was happy. So but I guess it.
If I'm being told a really good story, then I'm happy.
And it doesn't matter if it's an American film, one

(25:34):
Brazilian film, or a Japanese film, or Korean or Russian
or whatever. As long as it's just it tells me
a good story. That is what I love the most.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Oh, it's an unfair question, of course, particularly for someone
with your experience in the global cinema and the history
of cinema, and with some of the directors you've mentioned.
But having identified it as an unfair question, what are
your top two or three films?

Speaker 6 (26:03):
You know that?

Speaker 5 (26:04):
What's your desert island answer? If you could go on
a desert island but you could only take six films
with you, you know what would you be packing?

Speaker 6 (26:13):
Oh my god, that's an impossible question, Bert, But it is.
The funny thing is projector right exactly? I have to
bring my thirty five millimeter films, So.

Speaker 9 (26:29):
No.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
But the funny thing is that some years ago I
decided I wanted to make a top one hundred films,
you know, the films, the one hundred films, that I
love the most, and it ended up being one hundred
and fifty films. So you can see my My Delemma here.
But I would say, you know, one film by Stanley Kubrick,
one film by David Cronenberg, one film by Woody Allen,

(26:51):
one film by Billy Wilder, one film by Preston Sturgis,
one film by Champierre Melville, perhaps one film by the
Danish director Last from Tria. Perhaps a film by Boon
Bon Junghu or parkin work from South Korea, perhaps a
Kurosava film. It's it's a Hitchcock film past. How can

(27:14):
I forget Hitchcock? So it's and and Spielberg and you
know it's it's tough, Yeah it is. It is tough.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
But that's a lovely answer because your answer is in
the form of the storytellers and their and their work.
Now I just have to ask you this, It's just
a selfish question, but where do you put, say, Wes
Anderson and Jacques Tati on your list? Are you fond
of them as storytellers because they stand I.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
Forget, Yeah, I forgot them as well shocked. I love
shak Tati. I think his films are amazing on own
c you know, Playtime Traffic, those films are amazing. The
way the way he works with both image and sound.
It's almost like silent films but with sound. And Wes
Anderson I love, you know. I've interviewed him several times.

(28:05):
He's been to Copenhagen, and it's you know, his films
means so much to me because they're so full of texture.
There's so full of tangible things. And for a collector
like me, when I see a film like Moonrise Kingdom,
at one point they have this small record player where
they play Elga's some Elga music for children, you know,

(28:28):
I want to get the record. I want to get
the Elga record. I want to get the same record player.
You know. I have I collect typewriters. I have the
same typewriter that Alex has in his bedroom in Clogog Orange.
I have the typewriter than in the behind the scenes

(28:50):
film from or footage from the making of The Shining
you can see Stanley Kubrick working on a yellow Tip
X as a typewriter. I've got the same model typewriter.
So those kinds of things that kind of the tangible
things that the objects that the kind of all these
kinds of things, they mean so much to me. And

(29:10):
and when I watch films by a director likes Wes Anderson,
whose films are handmade, I fall in love with him.
I just think they're amazing. The way he crafts his
films from from you know, the bottom, bottom up. It's
it's it's so amazing. And I want to own all
the things that I in his his films. It's it's

(29:33):
so amazing.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
We have a lot to we have a lot to
talk about you and I. Yeah, I didn't realize we
had so many connections like this, but but we should
be getting on well, but I'll come back to that
maybe offline. And we have got a lot to talk
about about Wes Andrews.

Speaker 6 (29:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
So the next obvious question might be Christian. As we're
talking about films, what's your vote for the best Sherlock
Holmes film? As we think about Sherlock Holmes being brought
to screen for over one hundred years now in various aspects,
and every generation has their own Sherlock Holmes, and every

(30:14):
version of Sherlock Holmes that comes out is indelibly stamped
with that particular time frame on it. We were talking
about this with Nicholas Meyer a couple of episodes ago.
He said, you can tell when a film is made,
you know, by decade. So when you think about Sherlock
Holmes coming to the screen, do you have a favorite

(30:35):
film version of Sherlock Holmes.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
I have two, actually, because my favorite Sherlock Holmes is,
as I said Jeremy Brett, I don't think anybody can
hold a candle to what he did with that character.
But in terms of films, there are many really good films,
and there are many really really really bad films made
out of Shelock Holmbs. But two that I really love,

(31:01):
and one is actually from nineteen eighty five, the same
year as The Goonies, and that's Young Sherlock Combs. And
for me, thirteen years old, watching young Sherlock Combs, watching
my favorite literary character on screen at the age of
thirteen in such a fantastic adventure film was just amazing.

(31:24):
And I really loved that film. It's not a perfect film,
but it's for me at that time, it was a
perfect film. It was what I needed to see. And
it's about the young Sherlock Combs. It's about the young
doctor Watson before he became a doctor, of course, and
how they met. It's an origin story, and I just
really loved it. I thought it was done with a

(31:46):
lot of respect for the characters, for the books, for
the kind of the mood of the books, the whole
soul of these two characters. And the other one is
actually I think it is it from the year after,
but that's The Great Mouth, the Great Mouse Detective, the
animated animated film. I really love that as well. I

(32:09):
interviewed the two directors of that film a couple of times,
and and I, you know, it's it's just an amazing adaptation.
I think of well Eve Titus's books, of course, but
still kind of doing a lot with the character. You know,
I'm one of the I think I'm quite the fundamentalist
when it comes to Sholock Coombe's films and TV shows.

(32:31):
But if you do it with respect for the characters,
if you do it with the respect for the soul
and the kind of the whole personality of these characters,
and the stories and the mood and all these kinds
of things, the armbiance, whatever you want to call, all
that kind of intangible things that are with these stories.

(32:51):
If you do it with respect for that and you
know how to do it, then it doesn't matter what
you do. Almost doesn't matter what you do. And I
believe both Young Shellock Combs and The Great Mouse Detective
they actually do that. And I love those two films.
So perhaps unusual choices, perhaps somebody would would would think

(33:12):
I would say, Terrence Fish's, uh, you know A Hound
of the Basketville is from the fifties with with Cushing, Yeah, Peter,
Peter Cushing, and and and a young Christopher Lee, a
very beautiful young Christopher Lee as Henry Baskerville. So but
it's it's it's it's those two films that actually means

(33:34):
mean the most to me in terms of the films.
But still, you know, Jeremy Brett had had he only
done one, you know, it would have been so great
to have seen him on the on the big screen
as Shellock Combs.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
Well, it's a lovely assessment, you know, particularly about Mouse
Detective because you had Donald Duck above your crib and.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
So that's Carl, that's Carl Barks.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
Carl Barks created the wonderful lines of Donald Duck in
those in the forties and so on. In you know
in print and when you talk about The Great Mass Detective,
your assessment is so beautifully artistic. It's about the ambiance
and the personality. And that's a film where everything did

(34:17):
come together. The cast, the scene, the story, the voice is,
the action, the movements, the animation. You know, it really
is a lovely thing. So yeah, I'm impressed by your selections.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
I thought you were going to say Carl Barks was
the author of Dusk Copy Toll. It's different, Carl Bark Marx.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
That's that's the seventh Marks that they never talked about.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Well, let's let's get over to the reason we're here,
and that is to talk about the Sherlock Holmes Club
in Denmark. So Christian, you've you've had this lifelong interest
basically of Sherlock Holmes. You've discovered film and your love
of film, your ability to think about it critically. When
did you come across When did you realize that there

(35:07):
were other people interested in Sherlock Holmes that happened to
gather and celebrate his existence. When did you discover that
Sherlockians or Homisians actually existed as a as a hobby.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
Actually I discovered it it quite early I didn't become
a member of Schelloholm's Club until fifteen more or less
fifteen years ago. But I discovered it in the middle
and late eight probably the late eighties, when I was
going through the I was in high school. I was
living in my hometown of Silkopol, which is in the

(35:47):
middle of Jutland, the Highlands we call it, even though
the highest mountain in the highest hill in Denmark is
one hundred and fifty meters tall or something like that,
but we call it the highlands. But that's where I
grew up mostly. And I was going through the books
at local Antigarian books and I asked him about you know,

(36:09):
he knew that I was interested in Sheolock Coombs and
he came to me with a book with a red cover,
and that was the anniversary the twenty fifth anniversary book
of Sherlock Coombs Clube in Denmark, which was published in
nineteen seventy five, which was twelve thirteen years before I
discovered it. And I was amazed, you know, there was

(36:31):
this shallow comb clube in Denmark and did it still exist.
I didn't know anything about it. This is when being
a shell hockey and in my hometown of Silicabaw was
quite lonely at times because I didn't have the Internet
to connect with people. I didn't know where to reach out,
so I was more or less alone with my interest
in Shollo Coombs, at least my very quite fanatical interest

(36:53):
in Sheolo Coombs. At that time. I wrote essays about
it for not for school, but just for my own
pleasure and things like that. But I came across this
book and I thought the president of the club in
nineteen seventy five was very notable, famous Danish sher akin

(37:16):
called Henry Lawitzen, an illustrator. His illustration has been in
the Baker Street Journal, and he's been writing in the
Baker Street Journal as well over the years, and he
was a member of the Baker Street Regulars as well.
But I found out that he still was alive. He
was living in the north of Denmark and also in Jutland.

(37:38):
I wrote him a letter, and very kindly he wrote
me back and explained a little bit about the club
and how you could become a member, but also said
that he was not the president anymore of the club,
and then he sent me He probably almost every year
for many many years he published a book, often about

(37:58):
Shelock holmbs, oftentimes about sometimes about homes and stamps and
homes and horses. And he did a one that was
also translated into English, which was a defense of Dr
Watson being the clever one of the two. He also
he did one where shallow Comb solves the mystery of

(38:20):
Edwin Drude and things like that. So almost every year
he published the book and he sent me his latest
book and he dedicated it to me. And then I
found out that only one year, one or two years
after that he actually died, and he was very old
and sick at that time. That's why he stopped as
the president of Shallowcomb cluben. But that's when I learned

(38:41):
about the cluben. And I can't answer why, I explain
why I didn't try more to become a member at
that time, but I was kind of still relishing that
Actually this man had taken time to write to me
and send me his book and dedicated to me. So
I was really happy about that. And then you know,

(39:01):
it took me what almost twenty years, twenty two twenty
three years from that time on until I became a
member of Shallow Coomclub. But I did correspond and I
did interview for my newspaper because I the good thing
about being at a newspaper and being the film and
TV editor at a newspaper is that, you know, it's

(39:25):
I I write about everything that has to do with
Shellock Combs in that newspaper, and I really do try
to write as much. I just wrote something for next
week's paper where where on Shello Combs as well. So
I tried to sneak it in in any time and
every way I can. But I interviewed many years later,
I interviewed for my newspaper the then president of Slow

(39:47):
Coom Club in Denmark called Piano Nilsen, who's also unfortunately
dead now but he was, and he said, yeah, you
should try to become you should become a member. Write
to me, and then I never got around to it.
Then one day, you know, one other Sherlocking came up
to me and said, you know, you have to be
a member, and then I became a member finally.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
Pure pressure.

Speaker 6 (40:09):
It always works exactly.

Speaker 7 (40:13):
That, you know.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
It's it's interesting too. I mean, I don't know if
how well versed you are in the early history of
the Sherlock Holmes Club in Denmark. Well, I know is
what was in the BSI book, you know, Scandinavia and
Sherlock Holmes. But my memory is that that the evolution

(40:36):
of Sherlock Holmes fandom in Denmark was affected largely by
films and by pastiches and things like that and pirate editions,
and I don't know, you know, if you can talk
just for a minute or two about the about how
it all came to be the Danish Sherlock Holmes Club.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
Yeah, but yeah, of course I can, and and and
you are right, but that that it actually started out.
Sholock Holmes was always very popular in then Mark I
and I think he still is. That you know, people
of course see the TV shows and that kind of
and and especially Sherlock with Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman
kind of you know, created a whole new interest for

(41:20):
Sherlock Holmes and fortunately also the books and then Sholock
Come Club in Denmark. We got a lot of younger
members at that time. But yeah, it started with the
films and some of the first Sholock HOMEBS films ever
made in the Silent film era were actually Danish and
unfortunately only a few of them survived to this day,

(41:41):
but some of the first ones were Danish and they
were blatant ripoffs of the sholock Comb stories. You know,
it's it's It was a time where you didn't you
didn't think a lot about copyright and and and and
at least when you were making films. It was kind
of the wild West or of filmmaking. But yeah, the

(42:03):
books were popular. Pastiges were popular. Pirated editions of the
book of the official books, official stories conon Doyle stories
were very popular. And then in the forties there was
a Danish writer and humorist an illustrator called Storm p
or Robert Storm Peterson, who founded the Sholocombe Society of Denmark.

(42:29):
But that was a very exclusive society. Only him and
a few others were members. And one of the people
who didn't become a member was a man called a
d Heinlicksen or a d Hendrickson, and he decided to
form his own club and he did that with a
few other men, Verna Seaman who was an illustrator and
a translator, and then Henry Lawitson, who was a writer,

(42:54):
but most mostly he was he was an illustrator. He
was a cartoonist for a daily newspaper for many, many
many years. And those three were three of the founding
members of Shallow Combs Club in Denmark, and I was
in nineteen fifty they got together and formed the club,

(43:14):
and then since then the club has only become more
and more popular, and more and more people, of course
have have become members, and some have been members for
many many years, and we fortunately we do get new
members all the time. So you know, there's always I

(43:35):
guess that the problem with when you're a fan of something,
or you kind of you have a club or society
dedicated to something like Shelock Combs, that it can be
a lot of old folks in a sense. And I'm
saying that I consider myself being old, so even though
I'm only fifty three. So it's it's but it is

(43:56):
the it's it's not something that's all the time. Has
been just as appealing for the younger generations as it
has been for us. And that's why we were so grateful,
for instance, for the Sherlock TV Show, because we actually
got quite a few members. And only recently I got
an email from somebody who's eighteen year old daughter wanted

(44:16):
to become a member of Cerlo Comsclube because she thought
that it looked so fun so, but it started out
being quite exclusive, and over the years, depending on which
president was at the club at the time, the kind
of how you became a member was difficult or it

(44:38):
became a little more easy. Today it's quite easy to
become a member. You still have to kind of, you know,
describe or kind of show us your interest and knowledge
about Sherlock Combs. But in the olden days you could
be asked to write an article for Sheerlockiana, which is
the magazine we published three times a year, or you

(45:01):
could be asked to do a scientific paper on Shello
Combs before you could become a member. So it's been
quite strict at times, but now it's much more loose
and it's much more available in a sense to become
a member.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
And how often does the club meet these days.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
Well, we have one big meeting every year as close
to January sixth as possible. Of course, this year our
meeting took place at the end of May because it
was our seventy fifth anniversary, so we held a big

(45:44):
party at the Freemason's Lodge in Copenhagen, and we had
guests from America and from Switzerland and Norway and Sweden
and all over the place. So and there was really
kind of a big gala party because now we've been
there for seventy five five years. We try to do,
of course a couple of meetings during the year, but

(46:04):
they're kind of much more low key. We do a
picnic in the summer, a Victorian picnic of course, with
scones and clotted cream and and things like that, strawberry jam,
and so it's it's yeah, And then we do sometimes

(46:27):
we try to watch a film perhaps and talk about
the film, or we read a story and talk about that,
or we choose a theme and then we meet and
talk about that. There are a couple of science in
Denmark as well. We have the Speckled Gang of Copenhagen
and we have the Kimbrian Friends of Baker Street as
I think they're called, which are in Jutland. So we

(46:49):
have a couple of science as well, and they meet
more often. But the Shallow Cone Clube in Denmark has
one big kind of general assembly and and and party,
which is you know, the time when I think we
are around fifteen members now and that's when we try
as many as of us try to meet every year

(47:10):
in January in Copenhagen.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Now is is membership restricted to those who live in Denmark?
Or can anyone? I mean, if any of our listeners
across the airwaves so you are interested, how how can
they petition for membership or or show their interest?

Speaker 6 (47:32):
That's a good question. Actually I'm not the member minister
of clubing, but you are as.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Far as this show is concerned.

Speaker 5 (47:41):
Yeah, the ambassador.

Speaker 6 (47:43):
I do believe that anybody can become a member. It
just depends on you know, there is an annual fee.
It's not very much. It's I believe it's what is
it twenty five dollars a year or something like that.
You have to pay to become a member, and then
you get via email, you get the magazine, which is

(48:07):
I have to say it is in Danish. But I
do believe that anybody can become a member if they
write to us and kind of as I say, demonstrate
their interest in Sherlock Holms and then knowledge about Sherlock
holmbs And it doesn't really take that much. You can
go you can, I guess you can put that in
the show notes. The website of the of Kluten where
you can also find all information about how to get

(48:29):
in touch with us. So but it is. And then
all the invited guests for our big annual or our
big seven to fifth anniversary dinner, they were actually granted
honorary membership of Kluten. So if if you do come
to one of our meeting, if you get invited, of
course you do come to one of our meetings, you

(48:52):
will become an honorary member. That's kind of a rule
we have from abroad.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
That's lovely, is lovely, famulous, and.

Speaker 6 (49:01):
Yeah, I can just tell you that that. In connection
with our anniversary this year, we also did a kind
of a film, a series of Shollow Combs films at
the Cinema Tech in Copenhagen and Pelie Shans Lawissen, who's
also BSI and I we introduced the films. We did

(49:22):
an opening evening with some of the old silent Danish
Sholock Coombs films, and then Arthur Wanton a film, and
we did that just the day before our great anniversary dinner,
so our foreign guests were there as well. But then
the series of films went on for a month at

(49:42):
the Cinematic in Copenhagen, and Pela and I came and
introduced a lot of the films, and then we also
published a book, a seventy fifth anniversary book with papers,
articles by members from the fifty years and quite a
few old things, but also quite a few you knew
articles written for for for this book as well. Wonderful, fabulous.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
So as you host these annual meetings, I would imagine
there's a consistency as to the agenda, the types of
things that you do. What's it like to show up
at one of those? What do you do?

Speaker 6 (50:25):
Well? I think it's it's it's almost like being at
the b SI dinner in New York. Not not as
not as fancy, not as many people, perhaps not as formal,
but still we meet. We do our general assembly where
we talk about what is happening in Cluton. Is anybody
from the board, which of which I am a member

(50:48):
as well, Is anybody on you No, I don't actually
know what you call it, but you can be elected
for the Board of of Shellocoms Cluton. It's it's not
as as formal as it sounds, but anybody new try
I want to try and be a member of the
board and they're more than welcome to to say so.
And and also I think every other year the president

(51:10):
is on can be elected as well. Right now it's
Mia Stambele Echo who's who's our president, and she she's
been that for quite a few years now. And and
I I have I I have to say that in
terms of activity in the ink in Denmark, it is

(51:30):
kind of a lot. A lot of it has to
do with with the board. We we are kind of
the most active, and then there are people around us
who are also very active in Klubman and they're the
ones who only show up for the annual dinner. So
it's it's it's not as strict in that sense. And
I guess sometimes we do look at at at America

(51:50):
and and all the science of at bs I, of course,
but all the all the science you have in America,
and we get a bit jealous because you have so
many activities, you have so many exciting talks and film
screenings and publications and things like that. And then at
other times I do get stressed when I see all
the things that you have to you have to participate

(52:12):
in every year as an American sholl okay in at least.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, but you live in Denmark, so
you know, we envy you that. Yes, I can't understand that, yes, yes, yes,
well I think it's it's worth noting. In addition to
the website, we'll have a link to the Sherlock Holmes

(52:36):
cluban website. In our show notes that Scandinavia and Sherlock Holmes,
which was the second in the BSI's International series from
the BSI Press. That book is still available. It is
one of the few that is not yet out of print.

(52:57):
So if our listeners want to rush to the SI website,
we will have a link to both the International series
and this specific book, Scandinavia and Sherlock Holmes, and that
was edited by Bianna Nielsen back in I think it
was two thousand and five when that first came out,

(53:17):
and I on a note bert that my Carl Marx
remark was not far off because Bianna did an essay
called a Study in Red where he linked Sherlock Holmes
with Carl Marx.

Speaker 6 (53:29):
So there, so there, and and when he presented the paper,
Actually the paper has been reprinted in the book we
just published, and it's a very very funny, very good paper.
It's very persuasive in the sense of making you believe
that actually, you know, Sherlock Combs he was a Marxist,

(53:50):
or at least he was a he was a socialist
at least. But it is funny when when the paper
was presented at Shallow Comb Clube by Beyond and Nelson,
it almost gave Henry Lawison with the President of the
time of heart attack because he was very much conservative.
So that was it made quite a st.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
It's funny, and I mean, speaking of you know, splits
like this, I found it interesting that the club actually
was founded based on people not being able to get
into Robert Stormy Robert storm Peterson's group storm storm p

(54:33):
you should call them the storm p Petrols. But interesting that,
you know, throughout throughout organization's histories in the Sherlock and Well,
there are always conflicts, you know, we we we find
ways to be offended or uh to split off and
form splinter groups and everything. And it's been going on

(54:54):
for decades upon decades.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
Scott, you owe me an apology?

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Why is that?

Speaker 5 (55:00):
I don't know. I just figured sorry you owe me
in a polosy Sorry high time. Okay, thank you very
much question Mark.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
Sorry, well, Christian, before we completely alienate you, is there
anything else that you'd like to share with us about
what's going on in Denmark with respect to Sherlock Holmes
before we let you on your way.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
Well, there is one thing, and I don't know if
if I can actually divulse this. I don't know if
anybody knows it, but I do believe what Okay, that's good,
you could just uh, you can cut it out of
it out of the podcast, but if you know that
I'm not allowed to say this, but it's I do

(55:52):
believe that the Christmas annual of the PSJA this year
is dedicated to Shellicombe in Denmark because of our inifth anniversary,
I have written a long article about Henry Lawarton actually,
and there are other things about Kluten and our activities

(56:13):
over the years, and about our the other of our
founding fathers at Hendrickson. There's also a big article, a
long article about him in that issue of the PSJ.
So what else can I tell you about? Well, I
do believe that in terms of Denmark that, as I said,

(56:33):
Jolokumt has always been very popular here. And Conan Doyle,
you know, he had he had ties to Denmark. One
of his sons was married to a Danish woman and
he came here. He traveled here. You know, the books
were popular, that the character was popular, Plays were performed

(56:56):
at the theaters, Films were being made in the silent
film era, and you know, it's it's of course sometimes
a character goes out of fashion. But but again and
then because of the Robert Downey films, which I personally
really don't like. But because of those films and because
of the Sherlock TV show, you know it, it kind

(57:17):
of everything starts to blossom again, and everything starts to
be interesting again in a sense for also a lot
of other peoples then than just you know the hard
course your lock in groups like Shell Combs Club. So
so it's it's it's it's quite fun to be a
part of. And and I really do love the kind
of the international brother and sisterhood that you you get

(57:41):
to be a member of. When when when you start
you know, occupying yourself with with Shello Combs. Now I
was invested in in the BSI earlier this year and
I was now I've just been in London or in
England Portsmouth as well with the Shello Comb Society of London.
I I'm a member of perhaps the greatest scion of

(58:03):
all the noble correspondence. So it's it's uh, it's it's
and this kind of and and and also you know,
being a film critic, it's it's it's so nice that
my two the two great loves of my life. And
also there are quite a few really interesting comic books
being being published with and about Sherlock Combs, so kind

(58:26):
of the three big loves of my life, you know, books,
Shirlock Combs, films, and then comic books. Kind of it
kind of unites all of them, which I really do
do love. And then as a collector, that's both good
and problematic. Good because you know, there are a lot
of things that I can collect. Problematic because there is
a lot of things I can So yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
Well that's wonderful. Well, Donald Duck, Alfred Hitchcock, Sherlock Holmes
and your mother would be extremely proud bring it back home.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
And we are too, I hope so as well.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
Christian Mongar, thank you so much for joining us here
on high here of Sherlock everywhere.

Speaker 6 (59:04):
Well, thank you both. It's been all that I dreamed
about and more.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
Isn't it interesting whenever we talk to people in the
Sherlockean community, how much commonality there is under the see
under the surface. I mean, you pointed out the friction
in those early days he describes of the Danish Sherlock
Holmes could have been, you know, where five people or

(59:45):
six people want to keep it very exclusive, and then
someone says, well, and I'm starting my own group. I mean,
you know, we've just seen that over and over again.
But also also you know, these these sort of common
elements that sort of come through the comic books and
Sherlock Holmes and Alfred Hitchcock and film and the impression

(01:00:05):
Just think about Sherlock Holmes and all of these different
art forms and how impressionistic kids, you know, come in
contact with them, and it just carries on, and you know,
this whole subject of the art of Sherlock Holmes in
all these forms. I mean, it's really wonderful. I had
absolutely no idea that Christian had this set of professional interests.

(01:00:30):
But also the way enthusiasm for Sherlock Holmes evolved in Denmark.
I had absolutely no idea.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
Yeah, and it's also interesting to me and looking over
Scandinavia in Sherlock Holmes and reading Bjarna Nielsen's introduction to
the book, how I keep wanting to call them Stormy Petrel.
Robert storm Peterson was also an illustrator, just as Henry

(01:00:58):
Lawrenson was. So you had this very interesting, you know,
artistic bent of the mind. And of course we know
Holmes tells us and the Greek interpreter that art in
the blood is liable to take the strangest of forms.
And here we have Christian, who began with you know,
the Donald Duck comics not too far from his crib.

(01:01:22):
So this red thread of art and artists running through
the Danish Sherilokian community is an interesting one. And I
should note I didn't make this remark when Christian was
telling us about the summer picnics that they do. They
have a Victorian picnic which includes scones. I almost asked

(01:01:47):
them if there were any Danish there.

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Okay, well, Bert, we have I can't believe it. Once again,
another contribution from our good friend Madeleine Kinyones. I had
a chance to see Madeleine just over the weekend in
Chicago at the Tourists International Meeting, So I don't know
if that makes it into her clip or not, but

(01:02:49):
I want to turn it over to Madeleine. It's a
chance of listening with your correspondent, Madeleine Quinones.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Hello everyone, I'm Madeline Kenyonis and today I am here
to talk about The Baker Street Regulars, which I think
is one of the cuter podcast titles I've come across.
In the words of the hosts, they are a podcast
where they are taking a queer magnifying glass to the
Sherlock Holms cannon and as many adaptations. Evan and Sasha

(01:03:23):
start the show in twenty twenty three and wrap it
up in twenty twenty four. They discuss a select few
stories from the canon, an abundance of adaptations and pastiches.
They discuss a select few stories from the canon, an
abundance of adaptations and pastiches, a few parodies, and some
works a little more loosely related. Actually, I'm not sure

(01:03:47):
why who framed Roger Rabbit is included in that list,
but apparently I would if I'd actually listened to the episode.
I will eventually. As with most of the podcasts I've
discovered over the past year or so, I haven't had
time to listen to the whole show, but this is
one I do plan on finishing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
I like the hosts.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
They are clearly having fun, and I appreciate that. Before
I get to the highlights, I'm going to get ahead
of any confusion that might arise. Let's start with Sasha.
During the show, Sasha went through a name change, going
from in to Sasha. The show itself also changed names,
and I would argue that this change is much more

(01:04:26):
confusing because Evan and Sasha started a totally new podcast
within the same feed as the old one. Imagine if
Scott and Bert had finished Ihose and then started Trifles
in the same feed, so that when you went to
listen to ihose you found trifles instead. That's what happened

(01:04:47):
to the Baker Street regulars. The new show is much
ado about muppets, which yes, mixes Shakespeare with the muppets,
and that sounds like it's worth listening to. I just
wish that they were producing this show oh separately from
the original. You have to scroll down to twenty twenty four.
In twenty twenty three to listen to the Sherlockian stuff.

(01:05:07):
So let's talk recommendations. I am actually going to recommend
the first episode, Arthur Conan Doyle's Holmes and the last episode,
season finale. I think that you get a good feel
for the show between the two episodes. The season finale
is a rundown of what the hosts most liked and
most disliked about the adaptations they watched, so it's a

(01:05:31):
decent indicator of what to expect from the rest of
the show. And they really talk about a lot of
stuff throughout the show. And Nola Holmes BBC Sherlock Sherlock
Holmes in the twenty second century Wishbone without a Clue,
the whole art of detection Batman veggie tales they cover
a lot, and sometimes with friends and sometimes in interviews.

(01:05:55):
So an alternate recommendation I have is to look through
their discussions and pick an adaptation that you're curious to
hear them talk about. I will say I really enjoyed
the Vegetaies episode. Scherla Colmes and the Golden Ruler is
cute and fun and it doesn't get enough love, and
that's it. Please excuse me as I get ready for

(01:06:16):
a little weekend trip to hear somebody calleds Goot Money
speak in Chicago. Quick update, that was great. Scott's talk
was excellent.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
Catulater, I'm glad I passed mustard.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Would you pass the mustard?

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
Pass the mustard? Please?

Speaker 5 (01:06:39):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
So the tourists were lovely. It was lovely to see
metal in there, as well a number of other regular
ihos and trifles listeners, so always a sheer delight.

Speaker 6 (01:06:52):
Bert.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
I can't help but wonder what it would be like
if you and I produced trifles in the ihose feed.

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
If we did what in the I hose feed?

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
Uh huh yeah, if we produced trifles in the I
hose feed in.

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
The I hose feed, Now, what would happen. I think
maybe the show would be shorter.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
Maybe it would No, it's worth it's worth trying.

Speaker 8 (01:07:19):
Yeah, Oh we wish.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
Oh that jaunty music that means one thing.

Speaker 8 (01:07:34):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
It's time for a canonical couplet Everyone's favorite sherlochean quiz
show where we give you two lines of poetry and
we ask you to come up with which story it
is we are talking about. Now, if you were around
here in the last episode three eighteen, we gave you

(01:07:55):
this clue. Followed back to Baker Street, Holmes endured a
rare defeat.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Bert.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
I know this goes against my better judgment, but I'm
going to ask you if you know the answer to
this one.

Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
Of course, not the first time, of course I do.
That is the case where Violet Hunter, all alone in
the world needing a job, comes to Sherlock Holmes and
winds up washing Inspector Lestrade's stained shirts. It's the case
Watson called the Copper's Bleaches.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
Oh, I should have known. Now I'm gonna have to
say no on this. Whe We got some help from
our friend Eric Decker's He says, NASA, that's Portuguese. I've
solved it. It's the story where Holmes and Watson a

(01:09:00):
ed a Caribbean island themed party or home served as
an impromptu bartender. However, he made an embarrassing faux pap
by mixing orange juice with grapefruit juice instead of pineapple juice,
shocking the party's guests. It's the story Watson called a
scandal in Bahama Mama, except I was slightly drunk on

(01:09:24):
Dakeres when I wrote that, So it's more likely to
be a scandal in Bohemia. Eric, what a save, What
a save? That was fantastic. And yes, it's a scandal
in Bohemia that we were looking for. So we will
be bringing out the big prize wheel and giving it
a big spear. Now, these correct answers here going around

(01:09:50):
and around, coming to land our number thirty five, and
that looks like it is Kim Diegos Kim, thank you
for that. You, I think, what do we have in
store for you? We have Oh yeah, Sherlock Holmes five
Minute Mysteries Ray reith Meyer's book there, So thank you

(01:10:15):
for that. Should also note that Kim wrote us and
said your podcasts have become a refuge from the craziness
that's happening in the world. Thank you very much for
providing interesting, entertaining and well researched episodes. I very much

(01:10:35):
appreciate you both and all of your hard work. That's
always I remain a really big fan. Kim.

Speaker 5 (01:10:43):
Oh, that's nice. Thank you, it was nice.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
Thank you for that, Kim. And well, well, not that
we're thanking you for your complimentary email, but we are
rewarding you for your quiz. We will have a copy
of Sherlock Holmes Five Minute Mysteries to you in the
mail now. If you would like to be like Kim
and potentially win a prize from us, you have your
chance now because we're giving you another canonical couplet clue.

(01:11:11):
Here it is the apparent thief was quickly discovered and
nearby the key to the box room cupboard. If you
know the answer to this canonical couplet, put it in
an email addressed to comment that I hear of Sherlock
dot com with canonical couplet in this subject line. If

(01:11:33):
we choose your name at random from all of the
correct winners, you'll get the prize. Good luck, Okay, I
said correct winners, I meant correct entries. I'm sure, but
you're all winners.

Speaker 8 (01:11:48):
To us, you're all winner I must say.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
So what do you have to say for yourself?

Speaker 5 (01:11:54):
Bert, Well, we should mention I think I forgot to
mention earlier. Yes, listeners, if you would like to suggest
a topic for I hear Sherlock everywhere. We are keen, keen,
we are to hear from you. So please, do you
know someone that you think should be interviewed as subject
worthy of this particular prodcast about Sherlock Holmes and popular

(01:12:18):
culture and all things Sherlock in It was Bruce Harris
who suggested that we do an interview with Christian Mongarden
that went really well, And so we'll be sending Bruce
some of the scrapings from.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
We'll be sending Bruce. We'll be sending Bruce Christian.

Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
We will be.

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
Saying, luckily we can afford the airfare, and we will
be sending Christian to Bruce. Not Cod this time, please
not Cod.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
It'll be fun, we promise. Well, that's great, and that's
a good, good recommendation. And you know, we don't always
hear of Sherlock everywhere ourselves. It is people like you,
our listeners, who are our eyes and ears like the
irregulars word of Holmes that went everywhere and saw everything
and overheard everyone. And we rely on that community like

(01:13:10):
spirit to keep the world of Sherlock Holmes fans going.
So by all means, just shoot us an email at
comment that I hear of Sherlock dot com and we
will incorporate that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
In the meantime, I suppose we should sweep up here
and dim the lights because it is closing time.

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
Hellelujah hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
And until the next time when we open up around here.
I am the always befuddled Scott Monty.

Speaker 5 (01:13:45):
And I'm the perpetually confused Bertwolder.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
And together we say the game game.

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
Suns uh huh.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
But but.

Speaker 6 (01:14:05):
The games of the foot.

Speaker 7 (01:14:11):
I'm afraid that in the pleasure of this conversation I
am neglecting business of importance which awaits me.

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
Thank you for listening. Please be sure to join us
again for the next episode of I Hear of Sherlock Everywhere,
the first podcast dedicated to Sherlock Holmes.

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
Goodbye and good luck, and believe me to be my.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
Dear fellow, that is sincerely yours Sherlock Holmes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Going out tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:14:51):
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Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
Task What Task? Task?

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