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September 17, 2025 82 mins
Listen in and see if you agree with the AEW Fan Hub podcast team as we predict the scheduled matches (so far) for the upcoming AEW ALL OUT PPV! Do you agree with our choices of winner, losers, and the twists and turns that might happen? Let us know in the comments!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And nine.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Ignition five four three two one zero, All engine running.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for Ignition,
the All Out Prediction Show with the aw Fan podcast team.
This is Kelson and we're going to go right down
the line and predict all the matches that have been
set for aw all Out this Saturday. What is it?
Three pm Eastern Time? Is the start of the show

(00:45):
with the tailgate at two pm? Right guys, yep, I
believe that's right. Oh yeah, it's right there on the graphics.
Stupid me. Okay you this.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
What didn't you make the graphics?

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yes? I just asked, okay, yeah, not that anybody that's
listening can see them, but anyway, I don't know why
I mentioned them. Anyway, we can see them in our hurts.
We can, yes, and if you if you're very good
at projecting. So let's get started. We're gonna start with
the Trios match, the Hurt Syndicate against Ricochet and the

(01:25):
Gates of Agony. Interesting match, non title match. What do
you guys think? Who do you have winning this? And why?
And also why we're picking the winners. If you see
any twists, turns, you know, whatever, surprises bring them up.

(01:45):
Let's pick this match, the trios match.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
I'm gonna go with Gates of Agony, I guess because
I don't see a reason why the Hurt synecod would win.
I mean, they can put the Gates Agony over. The
only twist I can see here would be if possibly
uh the he talked if I can't think of his name,

(02:12):
if they talked to if the uh yeah, if the
Hurts Indy get talked to the Gates and Agony and said, hey,
he's not helping you guys out.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
We can help you out, and they turn.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
On Oh sure happened. So you're you're thinking maybe the
Hurt Syndicate gets in there and gets Skates of Agony
to turn on Ricochet. Yeah, okay, something like that.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
I feel like, uh, Gates Agony is pretty solid. They
already got their little power up girls color scheme going
on with.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
The suits and joint.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
But I feel like they're gonna get over and it'll
lead to like the Hurt Syndicate kind of dissolving and
we start getting more uh Lashly and Benjamin Singles matches.
Because I know that they were teasing that at the
E c W Arena right, and like their tag run
wasn't that great in my opinion, but I think that

(03:03):
they would really shine as like on this doing singles joints,
you know.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Right, So you're going Gates of Agony on this one? Yep?
All right, Well let's go to m K m K.
Who do you have in this match?

Speaker 6 (03:20):
I don't think it's time for Gates of magaany to
win just just yet. I think they're gonna be put
over later later on. I don't think Hurt hit it's
gonna lose two big matches in a row. So I'm
gonna go with Hurt Syndicate.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Okay, let's go to sect Seck. Who do you have
in this match?

Speaker 4 (03:43):
I didn't I have.

Speaker 7 (03:44):
I think I have to Hurt Sigh sign Kit because
I feel like, because I feel like they even though
they just lost the AW Tactic World Tag Team Championships,
I feel like they could win the AW World Trios
Check King Chimp.

Speaker 8 (04:04):
Aw World Trios Championships down the line, right, Okay, Barry, I.

Speaker 9 (04:15):
So Hurt Syndikitt didn't lose the belts. Somebody else scored
the pin in that match, and I think that's important.
I think it's too early for either Shelton and Lashly
or Gates Agony to take a pin here. But I
do think it's important that that trio that the Gates
of Agony or Rickasha Agony or whatever they're called themselves

(04:37):
and get the win here. So my call is Rico
Pinn's m v P. M v P can eat a pin,
no problem. So that's where I think it's going to go.
And I think there's a little more juice with this.
Hurts Syndy Kitt. They've talked about wanting to work with
Gates of Agony, and I think a one and done
is too short. I think there's some mileage you can
get out of this. So my call is Ricochet gets
the pin over m v P. I do like the

(04:59):
idea possibly getting Gates Agony to turn maybe at the
end of the single. I hadn't considered that, but you
run the story long enough, I think that that could
be interesting if they decided to go that way. But
I definitely see this going at least through another pay
per view.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I have a spicy prediction for this. I think that
this is going to be a no contest. The reason
why is I think that before the the pay per
view even starts. Maybe in the tailgate thing that they do,
you're gonna see maybe Anthony Bowes or Max Caster get

(05:38):
taken out in the back, and it's going to be
one of them. Like say, let's just hypothetically say it's
Max Caster that's taken out Billy Gunn and or Anthony
Bowen's or whatever. You know, they meet up and they

(05:59):
say what happened? And he tells them, but we don't
hear what happened, right, and then the acclaimed daddy ass
Max Caster and Anthony Bowen's come out, and let's just
say it was ricocheted gains a magne and took one
of them out. They come out and they take them out,
causing a no contest And I think what's going to

(06:22):
happen here? And the reason why I think this is
a good move is that it gets the acclaim to
back together. Plus what it also does is it gives
an ongoing story with nine guys and as nine guys
that can be involved in this, you know, and and

(06:44):
that's that. And then you also have you know, three
legit teams that can go after you know, the Trios Championship,
which you know I've said before, I think it doesn't
really need to exist. But that's just my opinion. So
I'm looking for no winner here, but a story to
come out of this.

Speaker 9 (07:03):
That's a good idea, sudden Or Kelson. I hadn't considered
them using this to kind of reboot the Trios division,
but you're right. Coming out of this, you could have
four trios teams and really only need four or five
teams to run a division.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well, even if the Acclaimed don't get involved in this,
I think that this is one of those grouped groups,
these two hurt Syndicate and Gates of bag and He
and Ricochet, that this should be a one and done
type thing. This should be an ongoing feud, you know.
So that's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for more

(07:35):
of a story driven thing than anything else.

Speaker 10 (07:39):
So let's go on.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Let's go on to the next match, which is going
to be the return of Eddie Kingston against Big Bill.
Who does everybody have in this one?

Speaker 5 (07:51):
I know you're so excited for this one, Kelson, so excited.
I got my boy going over Big Bill in the
Battle of the Kings of New York. As they put it,
people really miss Eddie, whether you like him or not.
People really miss Eddie. I did a thing on my

(08:12):
Instagram where everybody and their mother was talking about all
the things that they loved and missed about him, and
everybody like, it's perfect to put it on this card too.
You know, it's like we waited all this time. He's
been ready for god knows how long. But having you know,
this going up against another show on the same day,
like it's gonna get people to tune in a big
return like this being announced. I'm excited. I'm excited. I

(08:35):
see my boy getting over.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
All right, who wants to pick next? So we have
okay with Eddie?

Speaker 9 (08:42):
Let me go earlier this time. I I'm kind of
thinking like you did on the last one. I don't
know if there's a finish here that I don't think
Eddie goes over. I think this is to set up
something else. They're really trying to make Bill a heel,
which I think is stupid. I think it's time for

(09:04):
a baby face because I.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Agree he's just likable. I mean, he's just a likable guy.

Speaker 9 (09:10):
Calling out calling out Eddie is just I mean, you're
going to be a heel, and so if you're going
to be a heel, then go all in and give
him the mega heat. I want to see him beat
the crap out of Eddie and that's going to get
him mega heat. Eddie's sympathetic baby face. The wrinkle I
would like to see is who makes the save on
Eddie And if it's John Moxley, Mmmm, that is the

(09:33):
juice that I want to get.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
In a big mistake. They got to do something new.
They gotta do something new, do they? I think they do.
I just well, you put your look, but don't you
think that if you bring Eddie kicks it out, it
brings out the whole memory of the exploding barbed wire

(09:55):
death mat.

Speaker 10 (09:58):
He cares about that.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I don't that they need to stay away from that
as far as possible. I just don't want to see
Eddie at Moxley.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
I think it also, I mean to disagree with Helson,
like Eddie's a face. Max is a heel right now,
and I like had like this little fantasy idea of
him like kind of helping him get out of like
this mindset he's been with the death writers because I
know that, uh, that story has been based off of

(10:27):
like a certain movie or whatever, and like he's in
the wrong headspace. This isn't the Mox that Eddie knows,
and I feel like him being a baby right now
could help him bring him out of this darkness. I
know that the death right.

Speaker 10 (10:39):
I'm with UK.

Speaker 9 (10:40):
Yeah, I think Eddie is the redemption story for Mox
and and there's unfinished business between the two of them
before he got hurt, And I'm with you, o K.

Speaker 10 (10:50):
I think I think there's some more. There's there's aspect
there's another chapter that needs to be finished for them
to move on from that, and we haven't gotten closure.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
He's the but I don't think this is the masch
to do it in.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Okay, go ahead, So I want.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I just don't see this being the mass that you
bring Marks out to save Eddie. I kind of like
the idea of a no contest in this one too,
but I don't I don't really know. I mean, this
is coming together so quickly, and if being Eddie's return,
how do you have Eddie lose in his return?

Speaker 4 (11:24):
It just doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
So I'm taking Eddie and this one, but I think
it's going to be there might not be a winner.
There might be something like the bounty hunter might get involved,
or hell, Jericho might come.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Back and get involved in that way exactly.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I just don't see.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
I don't see you be having Eddie after all that
he he's been going with almost two years.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
Days since his last match in a W.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
To two years than not to two years.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
But anyway, either way, I just don't see you having
Eddie lose. And if I mean, if Big Bill loses
to Eddie, he's not going to hurt himself. It's not
going to hurt his career at all. So you know
this would give Eddie a leg ind to getting back
into it.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
So I gotta go with Eddie.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Okay, Well, let's go to sect sack two. Do you
have an Eddie Kingston versus Big Bill?

Speaker 7 (12:16):
I gotta go with Eddie Kingson via a Jericho interference
trying to.

Speaker 10 (12:20):
Help Big Bill.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Interesting, think of Jericho? Interesting? Okay, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 6 (12:31):
I don't like this match for a Big Bill because
he's too big of a guy and too good to
be losing to Eddie freaking Kingston. I think it'd be
a neat way of bringing Jericho back, But I just
I see it could maybe go longer of a deal
because they really haven't had much of interaction, So maybe
this goes to a no contest and they just brawl

(12:53):
a way too much like it was with Hobbes and
Big Bill, and they just can't finish the match or something,
and as few continues.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, well, look, for me, I'm all about logic, I
really am. When I look at matches, for some reason,
my mind goes to logic. Well, first of all, I
do want to say that I absolutely believe that this
is the weakest match on the entire card. I really do.
But logically, logically, big Bill is bigger. He's much bigger,

(13:30):
He's much stronger, he's much more athletic, he has much
more enterring ability. He you know, just at every possible
check mark that you can check, big Bill is better

(13:51):
than Eddie Kingston. Which so the logically speaking, that means
that Eddie Kingston's going to win this match and Big
Bill's careers a W is going to be ruined for
no reason whatsoever. That's just the way I feel about it.
I am dreading this match simply for the fact that

(14:12):
I don't think that this this is a match that
I don't think that Big Bill is going to lose
everything in this match. He's going to be with all.

Speaker 9 (14:26):
Due respect, it's it's ridiculous to think that big Bill's
career in aw is going to be ruined because.

Speaker 10 (14:34):
I know you don't like Eddie, but that's silly. Tellson
to come on.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
That would be the same thing and we'll talk about it,
you know. I mean, I have another one just like
this later in the show, which I feel is the
same way. But the only difference is is that the
person that is the challenge because when I look at
the Eddie Kingston versus Big Bill match, look at Eddie

(15:00):
Kingston as the challenger here, he's you know, he's by
far like the underdog. He's coming back from an injury.
By his own admission, he can't wrestle as well as
a lot of well anybody on the roster, you know,
but you know he's he's admitted that. But in this match,
it just seems like he's he's the underdog challenger that

(15:24):
we haven't seen yet. I haven't seen it, what k
five hundred days?

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Yeah, just about, And I think, you know, to counter myself,
I could see I can also see big Bill getting
over and honestly, like going back to the struggling character
of Eddie Kingston, like, I wouldn't be surprised if he
did come back on an abysmal losing streak, because he
did go out losing his title, he lost the three titles,
and like, that's what it's like and.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
What I would really what I would really like to
see here is for somehow, some way, these two New
Yorkers end up together as a tag team, you know,
and maybe even add you know, uh Brian Keith as
one of the trios. But I think, I just I
just think that if they just outright have look.

Speaker 10 (16:17):
Big Bill's beat, I think that's a brilliant idea.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
You know.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
My whole thing is big Bill just beat the best
wrestler live, Max Caster, who is even though he's a
goofball and his character right now is the best wrestlerlive,
is meant to get the snot beat out of him.
It still took Big Bill almost two minutes to beat him. Logically, logic, logically, logically,

(16:47):
big Bill should beat Eddie Kingston in I don't know,
seventeen seconds, you know what I mean, honestly think you
know so sure wrestling, yeah, but it is pro wrestling.
But I just don't like Eddie Kingston beating Big Bill.

(17:08):
To me, it's kind of like Sir Pentago beating Big Bill.
It would totally discredit Big Bill. Sorry, but it's the truth,
you know.

Speaker 9 (17:17):
So kay, I want to get your take on this,
because Kelson, you've gotten my wheels moving here, because we
were just talking a second ago about kind of rebooting
the trio's division. And let's set aside a couple of
people who said no contests, right, Let's say there isn't one.
This is a match where if you are trying to

(17:37):
set them up as a trio team as two guys
from New York, right, have them battle to a double
count out, or they're both in the ring, like like
Eddie just Bill just can't put him down, but Eddie's
not strong enough to beat Bill, and they both die,
and then they get the rematch and they die again,
and then that sets up the two of them like

(17:59):
they hate each other, but at the same point they
build this mutual respect. And then there's something else down
the line where He's like, I'll tell you know Eddie's like,
I'll tell you what, you got my We both hate
these other guys. You got my back, I got your back.
That starts that team because like two guys from New York.
I think the two of them could really get some
juice with their promo styles together.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, what do you think they could go on a run,
kill the people and they can call it the New
York Minute. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
You don't have to wait, because who is Big Bill
and then been been going up against the most dunk
callis family.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, they just they just because of Philly Devoid. Well
they really not, but.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
I get that. But here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
If you want to put them together in a tag team,
I don't think a lot of people are gonna want
to see four two three matches between these guys and
like that, they're gonna want something to happen. You could
have Don Kallis come out just because he doesn't like
Eddie Kingston and have his boys come out and interfering
in the match, and that turns them. I mean something
that are huge.

Speaker 10 (19:07):
A couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
You can have Chris Jericho come out and and Brian
Keith going no, Chris Jericho is my mentor, and Big
Bills like saying screw that. That's there.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
You go matches against Eddie Kingston like he has they
have history like it's it's you know, I can see
it happening. I can definitely see it happening. I've been
watching nothing but oh for Chakara, Like I've been seeing
like he's done this time and time again where he
works with people that he would he has to work
reluctantly with. He's done a w like I hate you,

(19:42):
but I hate that guy more work.

Speaker 11 (19:45):
Yeah, Yeah, when like the did the King of New
York with Jericho, have them run that back if they're
going to bring Jericho back on the roster and they
have them fight the demon that you know.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
Banished them all because I remember it took him so
long to be Jericho and he didn't do that until
a big paper here if I remember correctly.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, My whole point is is that I again I'll
reiterate it, is that I'm all about logic and I
don't like when something happens that just the suspension of
disbelief is just too much, you know what I mean.
And Eddie Kingston outright beating Big Bill is just a

(20:26):
too much of a pill for me to swallow. Something's
got to happen here that causes this match to you know,
And so this is a match. The worst thing that
could happen in this match to me is for either
of them to win by one of those group roll ups.

(20:49):
I want to call it. You know, it's got to
have an ending to it, and I like the idea
of the double count out, I really do. It's just
going to be interesting because on its own on paper,
I don't know. I you know, I love you guys,
But if Eddie you can say to me that on paper,
this is by far the weakest match on the card.

(21:10):
If you don't agree with that, then I'm sorry, I
think you're nuts.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Definitive finish, Eddie beats Big Bill because Brian Keith hits
him with something from the outside costs him the match,
then break them up and leads to Big Bill in
any down the route.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
They very well could be, could be you know, Chris
Jericho coming out and and you know, making Ryan Keith,
you know, orchestrating that it could be. But let's move on,
uh to frankly, what I considered to be the second
weakest match on the card, and that's Mark Briscoe Versus

(21:52):
and jf I. They've been doing a lot to build
this and one of the questions that I have uh is,
do you guys feel that this build towards this match
has been good enough? And also, of course, what are
your predictions for this match?

Speaker 10 (22:18):
Anybody Kelson? Can you mute for just a second. There's okay,
you're gonna mute. There's some cross channel right now. We're
getting another podcast on here.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Really, I'm not hearing it.

Speaker 10 (22:34):
Yes, anybody else here playing some sort of card game?

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Or is anybody else hearing that?

Speaker 4 (22:43):
I'm not hearing anything except.

Speaker 10 (22:45):
Okay, I'll drop.

Speaker 9 (22:47):
Maybe it's some weird thing in my connection, but I
can hear somebody else recording.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, drop, drop, reboot, come back and I'll let you
back in and let's go to Sutton. Then with your
pick on this uh on this match?

Speaker 1 (23:03):
You know what I really this was. I have to
agree with you on this being the second weakest match.
I don't see a reason for it. You know, Mark
wants the title shot off of Kyle Fletcher and Jeff
wants the title shot at the title at the main title.
Why are they even being together? I mean, this doesn't
make any sense. This is one of those things where

(23:23):
I think they're going. They pushed this way past where
they needed to. This should have ended two pay per
views ago when they had the match that they had.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
They don't need this match now.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
I can't see Mark win because it just wouldn't make
any sense for him to beat MGF.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
There's nothing in it.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah, no, I I agree with you. I mean, Mark
brisco to me is probably right now without Orange Cassidy
in the UH in the active roster. Put it that way,
meaning the wrestling active roster, Mark Briscoe is by far

(24:04):
right now like the workhorse of AW. Let's go to
to UH, well, who else is there? Let's go to
sect and see what what he has to say about
the brisco and MJF match.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
I feel like that Mark Briscoe might be MGF, but
I'm not one hundred percent sure. But I feel like
the match is going to end by someone going through
a table with fun tech fump texts because well obviously
it's like match type.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah. Yeah, that that does make I forgot about the stiput.
That's the other thing. The stipulation has done so bad.
I actually forgot about it.

Speaker 10 (24:51):
I think I actually think brisco goes over here.

Speaker 9 (24:55):
I don't I don't know if i'd say it's clean,
but with everything going on for MGF in Mexico and
some other stuff that that he's doing. Either this is
a way to write somebody in the chat, so there's
a way to write him off TV. I think Marcus
said that that's a good idea if he needs some
time off to do some of the filming he's doing,

(25:17):
so he can just focus on that in Mexico.

Speaker 10 (25:19):
Or this is somebody like who's the feuding with in CMOO?

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Is it Mistico?

Speaker 9 (25:27):
Mystico gets involved because they've been they have not set
that match up, but they've been.

Speaker 10 (25:31):
Building it and I could see that happening here.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
But well, Risco, but don't forget Barry. That MJF is
fighting or as a match against Mystico Friday night.

Speaker 9 (25:44):
That's Friday, Yeah, is literally MGFF is literally performing at
Arena Mexico Friday night.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Okay, and that that event starts in that event starts
at ten thirty pm Eastern, and that is flying to
Toronto to and.

Speaker 10 (26:04):
He's got the shooting TV shooting and stuff in there too.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Right Dan, I think the movie that he's filming is
I want to say, in Winnipeg. I'm not sure, but
it's somewhere in the middle of Canada.

Speaker 10 (26:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (26:17):
I the story they've been pushing with Mark is he
can't win the big one, especially with Britain. With MGF
calling that out, I think this is the one that happens.
I haven't been to figure out how they do it.
I don't think it's clean that. I think Mark comes
away with the win somehow.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah. Yeah, look, I mean MJF is taking on Mistico.
Like I said, the pay per view doesn't start until
ten thirty pm Eastern Time at Arena Mexico. That match
is likely to main events, so that's it'll probably be
like a one am match or something like that, and
then MGF has got to turn around and fly to Toronto.

(26:58):
And I do believe the ninety second anniversary for CMLL, which,
by the way, congrats on that. The oldest wrestling company
in the world today is CML Elder ninety second Anniversary
and the company has stayed in the same family the
entire time. That's amazing to me. But anyway, I don't

(27:22):
see MGF winning that match against Mystico, and I don't
see MGF losing two matches in a row. I'm sorry,
but I do kind of think that the thumb Tacks
and tables or whatever the hell it is, tables and tacks.

(27:42):
I think as they're calling it, I do think it
could be a way to write MJF off of TV,
which is unfortunate because he's going to be yet another
of aw's young talents that is not going to be around.
So let's move on. We've got the four Way Ladders

(28:08):
match for the a W Tag Team Championship. We know
that Brodido is part of this match, but we don't
know the other three teams. Now, the other three teams
are going to be determined by eliminator matches or qualifier matches,

(28:30):
whatever you'd like to call them. On September to remember
Dynamite Collision Accommodation. On Wednesday Night, you have Kip Sabian
and kill Switch against Jet Speed. You've got Etches Sero
and Josh Alexander against Top Flight, and then you've got
the Bang Bang Gang consisting of what is that, Austin

(28:51):
Gunn and Juice Robinson against the Young Bucks. I guess
the question I have here is two bold. I mean,
do you see any of these teams in these qualifier
matches standing out? And do you actually think anybody think

(29:12):
that when it comes to this four way ladders match
and all out is Brodido. Does that Do any of
these teams realistically have a chance to stop Berdida?

Speaker 8 (29:32):
Yeah, Kelson, I think they dopect me here.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Well you know what, Barry, Well look, Barry, here's the
way it is. You know, I'm gonna be honest with
you right now. Everybody sees you as the leader. And
if you're not talking, as soon as I stop talking,
there's just going to be a dead silence.

Speaker 9 (29:48):
So I'm torn on this one. Like I don't think
Brodido needs a long term run, but they're still hot,
so I'd ride them a little bit longer. I don't
this is the party match of the show. Frankly, I
don't think it really matters who wins. I think this
is going to set up a new angle for the Bucks,

(30:09):
and I agree what'll come out of this. Maybe they
come back and beat Brodido down the line, but I
don't want anybody to get hurt. They can't afford any
more people to be out. But like this a true
pretty match, I think Brodiito retains. I don't think there's
a reason to reduce it to anybody else yet.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Marcus and that chat said he thinks the Bucks just
beating Alexander and Hitch you Sarah will be the three teams.
I gotta agree with him. I think that's going to
be the competition.

Speaker 10 (30:40):
Yeah, that works.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah, I mean it really doesn't matter. I don't think.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
I don't think it's time for Brodiita to lose just yet.
I don't think they need to lose the titles of
a pay per view either, So this might be their
last pay per view as the champs, but I don't
think they're going to lose them tomorrow on Saturday.

Speaker 10 (30:59):
Yeah, I think that's a good call.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, what about you, sec What do you got on
this one?

Speaker 7 (31:08):
I feel like I feel like Brodido might retain. But
I feel like that, Yeah, I feel like the Young
Bucks will Peterneck challengers Peterneck chunters ahead of the time,
since they're trying and build this story about the Young
Bucks trying to be like build them back up to
like how they were before. I just feel like, I

(31:33):
just feel like Brodido might might be retaining here tonight.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, I've got yet another fantasy booking masterpiece for you guys.
If you watch Being the Elite this week, we saw
at the very end of being the elite. Jack Perry
mmmm said the box of knife, saying based, here's a
nice similar to the one you stab me in the

(32:03):
back with, you know, kind of alluding to I'm going
to screw up your matches. I would not be at
all surprised that being said, for the Bucks to win
on Dynamite, for kill Switch and Kip Sabian to win
on Dynamite, and to be honest with you, not just

(32:25):
Sarah and Jocks Alexander just seemed like the guys to
win on Dynamite. But I think I think overall, I
think when it comes to this pay per view, we're
gonna see Jack Perry. I think the Bucks will be
on the verge of beating Bandido, but Jack Perry will
come out from under the ring, stab them in the back,

(32:48):
and Brodido will retain, and then the Bucks will go
after Jack Perry and Lucasaurus, not kill Switch will come
to the rescue of Jack Perry, and Jungle Express will
be reborn at all out That's my thoughts.

Speaker 10 (33:12):
That's not bad.

Speaker 9 (33:14):
Yeah, that's not a bad point. Didn't so who had
the pin in the party match?

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Did? Bro?

Speaker 10 (33:18):
Do you know eat that pin from one of the bucks.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Did.

Speaker 9 (33:23):
Yeah, So yeah, they're gonna they're going to retain. And
I think you're I think you're right there. I don't
think that's a bad idea at all. Uh for for
Perry to come back and cost them when they're about
to win.

Speaker 10 (33:34):
I think that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah, I I I just a w with the high
probability of m JF not being around because of his
filming schedule as much he needs Jack Perry, they need
Darby Allen, and they need these They need you know, Bandido,
they need these young hot guys. When I'm saying hot

(33:59):
their I'm talking about how over they are. They need
these young hot guys because you can't I mean, you
can't rely on Moxley and the older and that that
set Jericho, even the Hurt Syndicate, you know, the guys
of that age. You don't even I can even loop

(34:20):
Eddie Kingston in there, and you can't put those guys.
And they need these, They need the younger guys like
Kyle Fletcher, Bendito, you know, Darby Allen, whatnot, you know.
And I just think that that's important. Speaking of young guys,
we're gonna get totally away from that now and we're

(34:41):
gonna go to what a lot of people in Toronto
especially would likely say should be the main event, and
that's Christian Cage and Adam Copland against f t R.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
The You can't you can't have FDR beat them in Toronto.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
That would that would that would cause riot.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
It would be the Toronto all screw job if that.

Speaker 9 (35:14):
Yeah, I mean, like this is like the sting in
Darby retirement match. This is the case. Give the people
what you want. You're not FDR doesn't need any more heat.
They can continue this feud like this is this is
this is on a silver platter. Give us what we want.
We want to cheer, we want to get our moment.

(35:34):
Give it to us, and I think they will.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah, I mean, if they have FDR win this match,
I hope it's the main event because I don't think
that they could probably go on with the show after.

Speaker 10 (35:46):
If they win.

Speaker 9 (35:47):
There like megaplants that are huge, because like that's nuclear
heat if that happens.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yeah, I mean, you know, sect what do you think?
I mean, do you agree with pretty much everybody across
the board that it's got to be it's got to
be Copeland and Christian it's an uncle.

Speaker 7 (36:09):
If I don't think and Christian don't win, I don't
know what's I don't know what's gonna be if happens
going to the rest of this car if if it
is in the middle of the event, this match has
happened in the main event, or or else, oh might
go up and fire in the rest of the event.
If after our does win, Yeah, uh I.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
There's really not a whole heck of a lot to
say about this match, so let's move on. We've got
for the TBS Championship Mercedes Monet versus ReHO. And I
know that Jim Cornett loves ReHO, But do you guys
love Riho in this match? I don't.

Speaker 10 (36:53):
I don't think she can win. She's got she just
didn't you have a final on Monday, she's got to
study for. She can't be out.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Oh my god, you went there, you went there.

Speaker 9 (37:05):
Every time she shows up at school's early tonight, Rio's here.
She looked really rusty. She looks really rusty, and I
don't see her. I like her, but I I don't
think she's ready for this match yet. Honestly, I think
I think she's she should not be in this match

(37:25):
right now.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah, let's go to well, let's go to sect. What
do you think about this match?

Speaker 7 (37:35):
It's ready for a monette because Rio isn't.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, I gotta.

Speaker 7 (37:46):
I gotta say, I gotta agree with this reminds me
of what Kelson told me a couple of weeks back.
But probably probably Mercedes is going to keep this tell
until wrestler dream.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Oh absolutely, because there's no they don't want it to
beata frames from the beginning.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
She's breaking She's not losing the title until she breaks
Cargill's record, end of story period.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
I don't care who you put her up against.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
You could put her up against the entire locker room,
and they are not taking that title off her until
she breaks Cargill's record. And that's I don't think it's
as far as Russell dream, but that's when she'll lose it.
But not until then, which is sad. I think we've
I really wish we would win it because real, I mean,
she's been gone for a while, but that's on herr Uh,

(38:39):
that's on I think it was a lot to do
with visa issues or something.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
She had a broken wrist that yeah, and she came
back out about that and she heard it again. So
I mean she had a risk that got injured twice.

Speaker 10 (38:53):
Basically, uh yeah, she can still she can still win
the title. I just don't think it needs to be.
I don't think it's going to be this one.

Speaker 9 (39:01):
I wouldn't be opposed to her being the one to
beat her, but to be Mercedes, I just I don't
think it's on this paper.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
View. Yeah, I agree to you.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Know.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Look, remember earlier in the show when we were talking
about the Eddie Kingston and Big Bill match, and I said,
there was another match on this card that I thought
made no sense whatsoever. This is the one I love rio.
She gets teased a lot for being small, but the

(39:31):
fact of the matter is is she's not ever been
the smallest wrestler in aw She's small, but she's not
the smallest. And if you've keep in mind one of
the she came from t.

Speaker 9 (39:46):
J p W.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
That's where she built her her fame, I guess, you know.
And they dress like little fairies over there. You know,
it's just plain and simple. You look at somebody like
me and Yamashada, she doesn't. She looks like she could
kill you, right, but pretty much everybody meu watanabayt at

(40:12):
t J PW is this cute thing and she's a unit.
You know she can She She deadlifted Willow Dightingale and
body slammed her. She picked up Willow Dightingale with one
arm and issued a backbreaker. These women are strong. If

(40:33):
you look at pictures of Rijo outside of wearing her
ring attire, there are like workout videos of Rijo. She's
a muscle. She's a unit, believe it or not. She's small,

(40:53):
but she's ripped. Don't you have to see past the
she got.

Speaker 10 (41:02):
The Bruce Lee like leaning sight.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah, but but I mean when you look at her,
like her abs are like holy crap. You know, you
gotta look at her because she doesn't show her abs
really in the outfits that she wears, you know, and
it's it's just it's disconcerting seeing someone like Rijo out
of her wrestling gear because it's different. But that being said,

(41:31):
I agree with you said, Barry, she's rusty, because I
do believe that Rio is one of the best technical
wrestlers in the women's division. When you know, prior to
this era of the women's division, when you're talking about
when she was the champion the Daili's Place era, she

(41:52):
was one of the standards of technical wrestling. I mean,
she's actually very very good at technical wrestling, all right.
But like Sutton said and what Sex said, Mercedes is
not going to lose this match until Russell Dreams. She's

(42:13):
going to beat, meaning Mercedes going to beat Jake Cargill's
record two days before Russell Dream the next pay per view,
the challenger at Wressell Dream will win the TBS Championship,
mark my words on that. And I believe that that
wrestler will be a Zoomie. I really do. I believe

(42:39):
it will be a Zumi that is going to win
the TBS Championship off of Mercedes Monet and she's in
a hold up for a few weeks and then lose
it back to Mercedes Monet or maybe lose it to
somebody else in a three way. But it's not going
to be a clean match, I guess the best way
to put it, uh yeah, But I just don't understand this.

(43:03):
I really I don't really understand this match. This was
thrown together. I love Riho, but it's just, you know, again,
it goes down to the Eddie Kingston a big bill thing,
just the same thing as I believe it does with Riho,
even though she hasn't wrestled and she's rusty. Rio's I mean,

(43:25):
she loses this match, which she will, which I also believe.
You know, if there is a winner in the Eddie
Kingston Big bill match, it's going to be Eddie Kingston.
They're gonna have a hard time coming back from that.
I just don't see it. I just don't see it.
I don't know. It's just weird to be the only
thing that could possibly save Riho after this match is

(43:48):
a if she's able to stick around in AW for
a length of time this time, and if she were
to get involved with a good tag team partner in
the AW Women's Tag Team Championship, you know, the Belt tournament.

Speaker 10 (44:03):
Yeah, I mean, Tanny w you get over.

Speaker 9 (44:06):
As long as she's like one of those, It's like
Briscoe man, she was just rehost, perpetually over, just like
Mark's over. He doesn't even he never wins, He's always
going to be over. Rehos is always going to be over.
So even if she eats in here and it's a
couple of fun matches. She's she's right back there.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Yeah. Now now we get onto John what I think
is the meat of the pay per view because a
lot of the matches we've talked about, we all seem
pretty convinced of what was going to happen. A lot
of them we kind of knew who was gonna win.
Now we're getting into the meat of the pay per
view where maybe it's a question. Uh, We'll start with

(44:48):
John Moxley and Darby Allen in a coffin match. What
do you guys think about this?

Speaker 10 (44:58):
Ston you take up a time.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Will. I think Darby's gonna win.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
I don't know why, and I think for some reason
it is a coffin match, so that means there won't
be there won't be anybody.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
I mean, people get interfered there's not gonna be and
be getting beat up for that.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
But I got a feeling that Maxley's gonna be on
his own in this one, and uh, Daniel Garcia might
have a little bit to do with the loss.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
But I don't know. I just I just think Darby's
gonna win.

Speaker 9 (45:25):
It, I thinks, And I think it's along the lines
though that you said Sutton for heat purposes. Darby is
the baby face of babyfaces, and he's a heat magnet
for heels to get a heat on. And if you're

(45:45):
trying to really establish Garcia as a heel like you
were getting at Sutton, I think him screwing over Garby
and being heavily involved here with Marx to secure that win.
That's a good opportunity to do that. I can't think
of other scenarios in near future you can get this
kind of heel heat like legit hel heat on Garcia
then having them screw.

Speaker 10 (46:06):
Over Derby and and help Box win. So I halfway
agree with Sutton.

Speaker 9 (46:11):
I disagree with the finish, but I think you got
you got a couple of things right there.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
So fact, what do you think?

Speaker 7 (46:23):
Okay, So my thinking before Dan Garcia was is that
the sports Dane Garcia joined the Death Writers was that
I believe that Darby was gonna win this match to
make Moxley to only to make Max at least take
a break for a while, because Moxley hasn't got like
a good, good long break and like in Forever and Plus.

(46:47):
But but now I feel like that Darby, I feel
like that Mosley might win. Is because over over like over,
to get like as Barry said, to get get Grisia
as more of heat more as a heat magnet.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Right. Well, Tiva Rustling in our chat said something, and
he said something that you know, kind of makes sense.
He said that Moxley is not going to lose until
a stipulation is made that the Death Riders have to
break up if or disband if Darby wins, And that
kind of makes sense when do you think about it.

(47:29):
It does kind of make sense on its own. I
kind of think if there's anything that's gonna happen interesting
in this match, it's gonna be that Staying shows up
and stops the Death Riders from interfering in this match.
But I think Moxley's gonna win. I don't think that

(47:52):
you can have Darby winning this match because I think
that if Darby wins it it closes the door. I
think this is gonna be a ongoing feud.

Speaker 10 (48:03):
Yeah, so they do. Mox does not.

Speaker 9 (48:07):
They do not have mox lose often, and when he
does eat Pins, it typically is a significant moment for
a character. They do not waste those opportunities often. So
I don't think now is the time for that I
don't think the storyline's good enough. We aren't anticipating it
and needing that blowoff like with Hangar finally beating Max

(48:29):
for the belt. So I agree, I think there's some
mileage and to keep that going. I think you're right.
I think Mox needs to win this.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah. Well, let's move on to what I am sure
are going to be called the co made events of
this evening of All Out uh and the first match,
which I think will be the first match and not
the closing match. But I think the first match will
be hang Man Adam Paige against Kyle Fletcher. I think

(49:00):
that the Women's Warway is going to close this out, uh,
hang Man at A Page and Kyle Fletcher. Is it
too soon for Hangman Adam Page to lose the aw
Men's World title?

Speaker 4 (49:17):
I think it is.

Speaker 10 (49:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
I think it's too early for Kyle to win it.
I think he needs to lose once at least once,
and then then come back and do it later at
another pay per view. Just there's so much going on
with the Don Klis family right now. You have so
many things that could open up in that with like
they've they've got the things where you've got ta Keshta

(49:42):
and uh the they're they're battling between each other, him
and Okada that they're kind of like vying for who
the better of the two are. You've got so many
things that this and this could turned out because because
to be honest with you, Donald's got his hand so
many pockets right now he doesn't really have He's always he's.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Laying up the cash. He's playing up o'connie, he's playing
up Kyle. You can't have three top those.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
And if Kyle loses this match, that'll knock him down
a little bit, and it opens up a new story
for that line.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
That's just the way I see it happen.

Speaker 9 (50:18):
Okay, I go ahead, Yeah, I think I think Hanger
wins for a bit of a different reason. I agree
with Sutton that that Kyle Kyle winning or Kyle losing
makes better sense narratively, and it gives gives him a
lot more options. I think it's I think it's too

(50:39):
soon from right now. I may not have thought that
way if this was two or three months ago and
Swerve and Osprey were healthy and still performing, and Omega
was there. Right now, it is important that aw continues
with a Babyface Champion.

Speaker 10 (50:58):
I've said this a bunch of times. I don't think
it's a coincidence.

Speaker 9 (51:00):
A lot of their resurgence has been with Babyface, very
strong babyfaces, and they are hurting in that area right now,
and because of that, almost that alone, i think it's
important for Hangman to keep this title for a while.
I think Fletcher will be a world champion, could even
be this year. Maybe it's too soon. We can debate
that down the line, but for this match, I think

(51:21):
Hangar needs to retain specifically because it is important for
a popular, hot babyface to have one of these titles.
And I'm gonna piggyback on why in the next match,
because if it goes the way, I think there may
only be one Babyface with a big championship with it
with a singles title right now, and that can be

(51:42):
a dangerous position when you're you don't have a lot
of other top stars to pull from.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
I'm going to kind of backtrack a little bit here
to Wednesday Night and September to remember if you look
at the all out card, one thing that's missing other
than the Kyle Fletcher match is there's no Don Kalm's family.
So in order for the don Kallis family to have

(52:10):
a presence all out ETCESO and Josh Alexander have to
win this match. And I think, of course they'll probably
will win this match, but it will be for the
various reasons. And we all saw it over the last
couple of weeks, Takesha is really getting a kind of

(52:34):
a face turn thing going on. I think that what's
going to happen is that what happens in the Etchestero
and Josh Alexander against Top Light match is going to
exacerbate and further to Keshta's baby face turn. When it

(52:59):
gets to this match, I think that you're going to
see the don Kallis family try to interfere in this match,
and Takesha is going to stop that interference out of
pure disgust and therefore get hang Man Adam Paige the

(53:20):
win in this match. And I think what that does
is that it it keeps Kyle Fletcher in the in
the UH, in the in the picture, It keeps to
Keshta in the picture, not only for the World Championship,
but also for the UH whatever you want to call
the Unified Championship, whatever one UH. It puts them in

(53:44):
a space for the C two, which is going to
be starting probably in the next.

Speaker 10 (53:51):
Yeah, Chad, Chad tipped us off. We missed the match,
which I think may impact what you're what you're booking here.
The triple threat it's not only does it look like
it's on there is it isn't it on the show?

Speaker 1 (54:03):
I thought it was And I was like when he
said that, I'm thinking, wait a minute, what about to
Catch and kind for the triple match with I don't
remember who won the other match?

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Yeah, yeah, the graphic.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Stupid me. Okay, who's who's in the triple threats?

Speaker 4 (54:24):
I don't remember the third person?

Speaker 10 (54:26):
It's uh Tempori or there's yeah somebody. Yeah that's Mortos mors.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
And against Messcara Dorado, I believe.

Speaker 10 (54:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Yeah. That the window that goes on the face of
the triple threat.

Speaker 10 (54:45):
The family representations.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Yeah yeah, but I still think that even in that match,
maybe in that match to Catch it gets involved, you know,
he's in the match talk in the uh September to
Remember match.

Speaker 9 (55:06):
Yeah, I think we all see that that takesha is
the next one. They're turning babyface it was nice to
see them holding like holding back pulling the trigger on that.
And I also don't think it's a coincidence we're seeing
them push some new top babyfaces now and they waited
because I don't think we're have dropped the potella surgery
on them. I think they knew he was going to

(55:28):
take time off. I think Osprey realized a little while ago,
and so Tony had to pull the trigger in a
couple of turns. And that take one is something we've
all been waiting for. You know, he was a huge
babyface before he went heel. I don't think he beats
Okata here.

Speaker 10 (55:42):
But that is the match. I think the C two
is what you build it to, and he takes them
in the finals.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Let's let's talk about let's just quickly talk about beast
Mortos against Mascarado. I did not see beast Mortos with
a snowballs chance at hell that he may win it.
But it's going to take the Don Collas family to
to win that. You know what I mean, It's gonna happen,
It's gonna take It's gonna take outside.

Speaker 10 (56:08):
Do you think I don't think Martos wants I.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Don't think so. I think it's gonna take you know,
Don Collas is gonna take Eli Fi. It's gonna take
everybody to get get person on the show. Yeah, you know,
and who knows, maybe Andre Andrew de lat a little
come out and help Mortos win.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
You never know.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
I don't know that whole That whole situation is a mess.
But anyway, let's move on to what I think will
be the main event. Well, well, let's go to the
triple for threat match. I I see to Kesha winning that.
I don't want to win.

Speaker 10 (56:44):
You guys, I think Okada retains. It's for the title.
I think Ocada retains, and I think to catch the
beats him in the finals of the C two.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Okay, for the title, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
I'd like to see when you because Ocada needs a break.
He's had the title for the whole almost the entire
time part of it, almost the entire time he's been
in aw so he can stand the loss.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Well to me, O'cada is the only one that's actually
held the title, so.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
So yeah, I mean, the reason I think Takesha is
gonna win it is simply because he's young and he's hot.
You know, meaning that he's got the crowd behind him,
even though he's a heel. I do think that he's
got the crowd behind him. I think him turning babyface
is the reason they're doing this. I think that you
need to put the pelt out the keshta. I mean,

(57:42):
it's not like he hasn't earned it. He just won
the tournament that o'conna is famous for. Make OCDA win
the next tournament.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
You know.

Speaker 10 (57:51):
That's not againstrapping them up. I just I think we
haven't gotten enough out of the story.

Speaker 9 (57:56):
Though, like I think there's some more between I want
to see them face off, and if he gets the belt,
I don't want it to be over.

Speaker 10 (58:02):
Then they got to run this and he's.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Got to get My point, powder point to what you
just said is I agree that we haven't gotten enough
out of the story, But what else can they do
with the story? We're two Japanese guys that don't speak
very much English, you know what I mean. So, I
mean that's the story.

Speaker 10 (58:23):
I I don't think you can you can book around
that pretty I don't.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Yeah, I'm just saying. I just say, and I don't
think they can get much more out of the story,
though they've got to book the story in order to
get more out of it. If they keep doing the
same thing and keep a strap on o Kada, the
story went nowhere.

Speaker 10 (58:40):
We need to see Don's Don needs. This match is
about Don picking aside. Don Calas is going to pick
a side in this match, and he's going to pick Okada,
and he's gonna stab Takesha in the back, and he's
going to make Takesha to the most sympathetic baby face
coming out of this pay per view other than maybe
Eddieking's and we are all. He doesn't even need to talk.

Speaker 9 (59:03):
He just music needs to hit and everyone's gonna want
to go beat beat the crap out of Don Kalla's
family people until he gets his hands on Okada. Maybe
it's before the C two, but that's why I don't
think he wins. We need to see the Don kallis
stab him in the back, and there's no better way
than the screw amount of a title he's about to
like he's about to pin Okada. He's beaten Okada. The

(59:23):
Champion of the g One has beaten Okada. He is
gonna get this belt and Don Kallas stabs him.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
The met.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
I would be surprised with the baby face turn that
Takesha's tag team partner, and the guy that will help
him will be the guy that takes to beat multiple times,
Kenny Omega Kenneth. I do think that Kenny will step
up and be to Kesha's partner with takes turns baby face.

(59:54):
Let's move on to what I think will be the
main event, the women's four way for the aw women Championship.
We've got Tony Storm defending her belt against Jamie Hayter,
Chris Statlander and Tekla. Who wins this and why?

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
That from what you said earlier, very I kind of
get the idea that you don't think that Tony Storms
walking out of this one with the belt.

Speaker 9 (01:00:25):
I don't think Tony Storm's walking out of the belt.
I think it's time. I think it's time to get
another like Tony's. With that last pay per view, they
made her. She is the ace of the division. You
have three very popular performers. Whether they go, there's a
case for all three of them. Stat's got a natural
storyline here. We've been watching Beckla's new hot talent. Everybody's

(01:00:48):
excited to see her. Jamie Hater's triumphant return, who never
got her rematch against Tony Storm after losing the belt
to her. Like, there are three very good performers in here,
and I don't think it's going to be Tony. And
if they go with a heel, then like these two matches,
the title matches, both title matches are like symbiotic to

(01:01:09):
each other. If regardless of if a heel wins one,
a babyface has to win the other one. They need
to have a hot babyface as one of the two champions.

Speaker 10 (01:01:20):
I think two heels would be just just the wrong move.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
So if.

Speaker 9 (01:01:26):
Fletcher loses, if Fletcher wins, then I think it's going
to be Hater as assuming she's a babyface. I think
there's a good chance Stat does some helish stuff here.
We'll see how that goes. I don't know, but yeah,
any rate, long story short, I don't think Tony Ing retains.

Speaker 10 (01:01:41):
I think one of the other three, thinking of I
just don't know who.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
All right, well, let's go to sect. What do you
think who's going to win the four way here?

Speaker 7 (01:01:52):
I think I got Stat to win because even though
doctor Kim building up as her to be like that,
another person that joined the Death are joined the Death
writers because Mosley has been like giving her guidance. I
just I just feel like stat Lander will win because
it's definitely Tony's trying to win, because a lot of
people are calling like, because a lot of people are

(01:02:14):
pretty much calling like Tony's ring a little bit boring.
But it's been, it's been, it's been. It's been great overall,
I think, But I just feel like it's it needs
to be come to then soon.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
All right, Well, hope something.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
I agree with Barry and uh with Sicked. I don't
think it that Tony's walking out the camp. I hope
it's Statlander because she deserves to have the win. She's
been hustling so long and has never really been given
a shot until now.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
You know, Jamie came back.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
She's come back, she's gotten better, but she just hasn't
been around enough to have her win the title for
me yet, I don't think she's ready.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
Uh and was too new too, So I can definitely
see Statlander winning it. It'll either be Statlander or uh hater.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Yeah, I've got all kinds of thoughts about this. All right. First,
I will say right off the bat, Tony Storm needs
to drop the strap. Secondly, I will say that Tony
Storm doesn't need the strap to be Tony Storm. She
doesn't need this belt. She's great with the belt and
without the belt, so why not put somebody else over

(01:03:33):
with the belt. That's the way I look at it.
I find it interesting that on Dynamite we're having a
no holds barred match between Queen Aminada and Tecla. Why
are you gonna have this match the week, you know,
just days before, not even a week to days before
the pay per view. If Techla loses this match, she's

(01:03:54):
basically like, what the hell is she doing in the
main event? That out kind of things? You know, tech
Tecla is going to win this match against Queen Amanada,
plain and simple. Now, when I look at Jamie Hater. Oh,

(01:04:16):
by the way, I do not agree with anybody that
says that Tecla hasn't been there long enough. She's been
there for over five months, and AW has had plenty
of world champions that have been there for five months
or less. She's Boxley Job Boxley being one of them.
I do not think. I don't think that Techla is
going to win the title. I just think that's saying

(01:04:38):
that she hasn't been there long enough is a very poor,
uh excuse, because AW again has had world champions that
had not been there long been with aw less time
than Tecla has. When you look at Jamie Hayter, I
kind of agree that she has don't really proven it

(01:05:01):
proven herself yet. You know, she's been in and out
with injury, uh, and she's not really had.

Speaker 6 (01:05:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
I just don't if she's had a seat at your win,
I don't remember it, so that kind of that's that's
kind of the fact.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Yeah, I think one of the big things about this
match is that the winner has I think she has
to lose the title this way. I don't think you
can have like it leaves too much open discussion. If
Tecla wins or either the other two win and they
don't pin Tony Storm, it leaves too much. Yeah, well,

(01:05:45):
she didn't lose to me, you know, I just don't
want to see that happen. I want to see her
get beat to lose the title outright.

Speaker 10 (01:05:52):
Welling, Tony has a lot of weight, and if you
are crowning a new champion, if it's satur effect lat
I one hundred percent agree with you, Sutton. You put
that pin on Tony because that carries much more weight
than a pin on anybody else in that match.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Yeah. Well, I've given my opinions on Hater, and I've
given my opinion on Tony Storm and on Tackling. I
haven't given my opinion on Chris Statlander in this match.
First and foremost, I do not want to see Chris
Statlander join the Death Writers. Why because Daniel Garcia just
joined the Death Writers. I don't want the death Writers.

(01:06:31):
First of all, I think the Death Writers of course
are not that strong to begin with, but I don't
want them to become like the nWo of AW where
they just start recruiting new members every other week. They
recruited Daniel Garcia keep Statlander away. If Statlander becomes the

(01:06:53):
champion and also becomes a member of Death Writers, I
would see that as the worst thing that could possibly
happen in this match. I really and truly do. If
stat Lander wins this match clean without the Death Writers, beautiful,

(01:07:15):
my pick to winness match is Jamie Hayter. She's got
the built in feud with Tony Storm. They can run
it back at Russell Dream whatever they've got the story there.
Tony Storm doesn't have a story with Tecla. She certainly
doesn't have a story with Chris Statlander. The only one

(01:07:36):
in this match is Tony Storm has a story with
is Jmi Hayter. And that's why Jamie Hater. If Tony
Storm drops the title, it should be the Jamie Hater.
Even though I agree with Sutton when he said that, hey,
you know, and I said it, Hater hasn't done enough yet.

(01:07:57):
But I just think the story is there, and that's
only reason why.

Speaker 9 (01:08:01):
As a former champ, she brings default credibility to so
if you're gonna if you're gonna give somebody a belt
who's just coming back, it's a lot easier to do
that in a former champ than you know, a new
person that was in the middle of a push before
they left.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Yeah. Well, look the way I look at it is this,
we are going to get the Women's World Tag Team
Championships sometime in the next ten years. I'm absolutely convinced
of that. Hopefully within the next five months. I'm hoping
that we get a tournament that happens. Jamie Hater's kind

(01:08:37):
of out a in an Island there, Tony Storm has
Mina Sherikawa, Christatlander has Willow Nightingale. Whether people don't want
to believe it or not, Techless got whoever she wants
from the Triangle Triangle of Madness, you know. So it
just makes sense because if Jamie Hater becomes the world champ,

(01:08:59):
then we have somebody that that could form tag teams.
I mean, what are you gonna do? Who are you
gonna put Jamie Hater with Britt Baker. That's never gonna happen,
you know. So you know that's the whole thing. Well,
that's all the picks. Uh, let's do a pot pourri, uh,

(01:09:23):
just to see if there's anything that anybody wants to
talk about. Does anybody have a pot Prix go ahead? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:09:33):
Yeah, So I stumbled upon a game called Vampire Saviors
on Game Pass for Xbox. It's about it's been out
for about two years, multi platform. It's a blast. So
if you like rogue light type games and enjoy games
like Smash TV, it's a lot of fun. You just

(01:09:53):
get in stages, max time you can be on in
this thirty minutes. That's the goals to survive and death
comes and kills you tons of characters, unlock tons of weapons,
unlock all sorts of cool character builds. You go into
each each arena to make just just a real blast,
fun little thing to throw it down for fifteen thirty minutes.

Speaker 10 (01:10:11):
When you need a we need a little fixed. So
I thought that was the fun game I wanted to share.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
All right, anybody else have a potpourri? No, so I'll
go ahead, sick, sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:10:30):
So I've actually found I know this is like pretty
popular in new in Japan, but I found a really
popular wrestling anime. But I probably know you guys probably
heard of is Tiger Mask w And I gotta say
it's pretty good since it has the likes of keny
Omega back when he was Bowl club leader and Kasutra

(01:10:51):
Okada back in there. So it was like quite fun
because you get to see like what the history of
Tiger Mask was, because I know Codo Bushi was Tiger
Mass at one point and a lot of other people.
I just want to stay that out since and it's
it's it's a really good anime.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Interesting. You'll have to post a link to where you
can look at that and the uh.

Speaker 10 (01:11:20):
On the discord. So we can all in an episode too.
Suplexes a t Rex that I remember, of course he
did in some anime. He doesn't mineral.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
He's also a part of it. My father, Well, I
have a pope fri. Uh and uh, this may not
come as surprise to any of you, but uh, you know,
a w fan hub has been around for quite a while,

(01:11:53):
uh and spawned a couple of different uh subreddeads and communities.
You know, we're on Blue Sky, We're on x We're
on Discord, We're on Instagram, we're on threads. We used
to be on YouTube. We're not anymore. But that's a
totally different story. But because we just stopped uploading YouTube
videos because it wasn't doing much. But you know, we've

(01:12:15):
been growing. We've got three subreddits under us now. One
that we just opened at the July thirty first, so
essentially it's only been opened for about a month and
a half now, and that's Women's Pro Wrestling and it's
already keme to almost nine hundred members, and I think
that's pretty good. But my poprie specifically about somebody joined

(01:12:41):
the aw fan hubb community followed the aw fan Hubb community.
I posted it earlier today and because I just thought
it was funny. Did you guys see who joined the
aw FANDOB community community and followed us?

Speaker 10 (01:12:57):
I did, but I can't see their name. It just
says something.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
It just it just says, yeah, their name's not there.
John Cena followed.

Speaker 10 (01:13:06):
Oh that's why I couldn't see it, okay, Yeah, And I.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Thought that that was hysterical. I really did, because we
weren't following him. He followed. We follow him now, but
he followed us out of nowhere, and uh, I just
I'm thinking to myself, I just thought the timing was
great because you had Russell Palooza going against all Out
and the main eventor at Russell Palooza follows a w

(01:13:36):
fanhob like three literally four days before. I wanted to know. Yeah,
I know, we were just like and I've been having
fun with it. I mean, I posted it on the
w W boards, I posted it on the aw boards,
and everybody's just good naturedly, you know, making fun of
it because it's just it's just you know, look, chun

(01:13:58):
chun Cena. You know, I almost it was tacky. I'll
say it here, but what I made it post saying
John Cena followed aw fanup. I wanted to say, John Cena,
you know, followed aw fan up, best make a wish ever,
you know. And I didn't post that because I thought
it would be tacky.

Speaker 10 (01:14:19):
But I'm not afraid to say it, you know, but
that's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Because I just I don't know. But anyway, I just
thought it was cool that John Cena followed. And we've
been reposted, and you know, people have been talking to us, uh,
you know, like in the last like two weeks. I
mean you the names of wrestlers that have liked and

(01:14:42):
reposted and commented on our stuff on social media. Uh,
and it's all been positive because we don't post negative stuff.
There's too much of that. My whole thing is, you know,
let's keep it positive, you know. And uh, you know,
so I've been posting about not only aw stuff, but

(01:15:06):
some indie matches and stuff, and the indie people are
responding to us, you know, and so we've had, you know,
all kinds of things.

Speaker 10 (01:15:14):
It's just cool.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Just it's really cool when you get you know, somebody
like Mina shi Kawa liking a post to yours, or
you know, Turbo Floyd responding to you and sir Pentico
responding to you and giving like a little jab, like
a little tongue in cheek thing, you know, you know,

(01:15:36):
saying hey, we like your posts, so we just wanted
to respond kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
It's cool. It really is fun. It makes it kind
of worth it for the work you do. One thing
I can honestly say is an aw itself. Nor Tony
Kahana has ever liked anything we've done in nearly now
we're coming up on almost three years of supporting aw
AW fan hub. Come on, guys, throw us a bone, Missy.

Speaker 9 (01:16:06):
It does. It is a fun, little extra layer of
fandom though, because you know, we watch them every week
and we really I mean they put their bodies on
the line for us every week to entertain us. You know,
they they literally do that, and you don't get a
chance to say thanks, Hey, this was a lot of fun.
So it's it's neat to know that people that you

(01:16:27):
really enjoy and appreciate sometimes hear it directly from your mouth.

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:16:31):
Yeah, you don't take them for granted, like you appreciate
it every time they're out there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
But we're not afraid to say when something doesn't work either,
and look the way I explained that, Look, we weird
this community. The AAW fanub community is not a raw
raw raw. AW is so much better than anything in
the world, and they never do anything wrong. That's not us.
We will point out when we don't like something, However,

(01:16:58):
that doesn't mean we don't dislike AW. The best analogy
I can give to that is, let's say you're an
Atlanta Falcons fan Week one against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
and your kicker misses a field goal that costs you
a chance to go to overtime. Well, just because you're
an Atlanta Falcons fan doesn't mean you can say that.

(01:17:19):
You can't say that you were disappointed in the kicker
purmissing the field goal, or your favorite baseball team the
pitcher gave up five home runs, you had an off game.
Just because you're a fan of that team doesn't mean
you can't admit that one of the players had an
off game. You know, that's stupid because everybody knows he

(01:17:40):
had an off game. Everybody knows that the kicker missed
the field goal, you know what I mean. So that's
the whole point about it, you know, I mean, So
that's the way we approach aw phantom. Now, of course,
you do have trolls to come into the community and
they spew whatever they're spewing, and that's not appreciated. And
you can tell a troll for some reason, I don't

(01:18:01):
know if you ever noticed this about trolls. Watch it.
If you're reading on whatever social media you're on, you
can tell a troll because they always end their sentence
with l O L or m L m ao. I
was like, why do you do that? You're just pointing
out that your troll, you know so, But that's the point.

(01:18:22):
I mean, I just wanted to point out on my
pot poiri that yeah, you know, guys like John Cena
are following a w fan up. So John Cena, if
you're listening to this, and I know you are because
you're a big fan, now, welcome, welcome, and it's good
to have a fellow sicico following us.

Speaker 10 (01:18:44):
You know how many other people does he follow? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:18:51):
John followed our community after following seventeen million people before.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
Yeah, I mean just just like just like on X alone,
on X alone, he follows well over a million people.
So but we're special, yeah, you know, because we saw
him when he when he followed us. All the other
people they couldn't see him. We saw, I know, yeah,

(01:19:16):
well I did.

Speaker 10 (01:19:17):
It's just a blank followed.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Us who have followed us. Yeah, but yeah, I just
thought it was funny. I mean, you know, and we've
been having fun with it all that, looking forward to
finishing this podcast. So I go look at some more
comments because we've been having fun with it. God, well

(01:19:41):
he's I mean he's retiring when in November.

Speaker 9 (01:19:45):
Yeah, but I mean, like imagine like Brock hurts him
and like he can't do his retirement match. Like anyway,
that's for a different show.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
It is what it is. I mean, I just think
it's funny, you know. But anyway, By the way, we
will not be doing I'llie Talk tomorrow night, which is
our normal after Dynamite review show, because Dynamite doesn't end

(01:20:22):
until probably like eleven ten tomorrow night, because they're doing
two hours of Dynamite and one hour of Collision.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
For the.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
You know, go home show of All Out. One thing
I also wanted to mention is that it has been reported.
Now keep in mind on Saturday a two pm Eastern time,
what hour before the pay per view All Out on
TNT there's going to be the Tailgate Show, the All

(01:20:57):
Out Tailgate Show, and then you're gonna have to normal
Zero Hour on YouTube and all wherever you bought the
pay per view. Now, the way it was explained that
I saw, I believe Dave Meltzer, no booze, okay, But
Dave Meltzer explained it is that the Zero Hour show

(01:21:20):
on YouTube and on the pay per view purchased app
whatever you use it for, is just going to be
a hype show, backstage segments, you know, recap videos, whatever.
The Tailgate Brawl is going to be the show with

(01:21:40):
matches on it, and that's the one that's going to
be on TNT and on HBO Max. So make sure
that if you want to see matches, that you're watching
the brawl, the Tailgate Brawl, and if you want to
see hype, then you watch the Zero Hour. All right.
And so that being said, we're out of here. We'll

(01:22:02):
see you again next Tuesday night, where I'm sure we'll
have a lot to say about what happened at All
Out forty aw Fan podcast team. Thank you guys for
joining us. This is Kelson, good night, everybody,
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