April 2, 2025 • 60 mins
Something unusual is going on in AEW! We're not only talking about this weekend's Dynasty PPV, but we're already talking about Double or Nothing, All In and Forbidden Door. Is this a testament to the type of story-telling AEW is currently doing?
In this episode of Ignition, the AEW Fan Hub podcast team makes their picks to round out the Owen Hart Cup Foundation tournament. The full brackets will be released on the April 2, 2025 episode of Dynamite. We also talk about the ramifications of this tournament. We also talk about free agency throughout pro wrestling, the MAX ratings and more!
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In this episode of Ignition, the AEW Fan Hub podcast team makes their picks to round out the Owen Hart Cup Foundation tournament. The full brackets will be released on the April 2, 2025 episode of Dynamite. We also talk about the ramifications of this tournament. We also talk about free agency throughout pro wrestling, the MAX ratings and more!
Please join us on the AEW Fan Hub subreddit for more great news, features and discussions about All Elite Wrestling!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And nine.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Ignition six five four three two one zero. All engine running.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
Ignition with the aw fat Hub podcast team. If you
haven't already done so, please go check out Shades the
Vibes new aw fat Hub podcast Vibe Check. It's really interesting.
They're really short ten minutes long, so they're very easy
(00:44):
listening and he's he does a great job with it.
Please go check it out. Let's get started with Ignition.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
This is Kelson and this is Shane. What's going on panel?
Nice to see everybody. So Kelson, what do you want
to talk about? First man?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, you know what. Shades actually brought this up on
his Vibe Check podcast. I wanted to talk about the
owen Hart Cup. On Dynamite on Wednesday, they're revealing the
owen Hart Cup brackets. Now there's eight wrestlers in each division,
meaning the women's division and the men's division. Let's talk
(01:24):
about the men's division. Because of the eight wrestlers, I
believe only three have been announced and we got to
fill out this bracket. I kind of like to do
a little bit of fantasy booking here. Right now, we
only have Will Ospray, Jay White and Hangman In and Paige.
We've got five empty slots, and as Shade said, they're
(01:49):
kind of I don't know, it's hard to fill it
out because you've got title holders. We've already expressed I
don't know how you guys feel about it this year,
but last year were we don't like title holders being
in the owen Hart so that eliminates like Claudio Castignoli,
Pack Wheeler, you'd uh, Daniel Garcia whatever. So and then
(02:14):
of course swear Strickland already has a shot, so he
doesn't need to be in this really, I mean, I
guess he could. But who do you think? What do
we think? Who would you like to see Bill out
the owen Hart Cup bracket for the men?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Well, Tony Kahan in the past few years for these
types of tournaments has kind of followed a pretty generic structure,
like we're gonna need to imagine two guys that are
gonna lose, Like that's the easiest place to start. I'll
rip the band Aid off. I love him to death.
Mark Briscoe, well, I can see him in again, you know,
(02:52):
maybe getting to win or two. Yeah, and then Brody
King I think Brodie is amazing. Yeah, either you know.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
What, as soon as you said Mark Versca, I knew
you were gonna say Brodie King. And it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Yeah, it is unfortunate because we'll get to injuries later.
But his partner's injured and now he's kind of out
there by himself doing a lot of additional work. But
I really can't think of anyone else. I mean, I'd
like to see Takeshta get involved with the Owenhart Tournament.
That would be fantastic. You know, maybe we could see
like Kyle Fletcher get involved, you know, just right, maybe Kenny, well, Kenny,
(03:27):
they're going for Kenny so or are they're going for
Kenny or they're going for Max or Swerve. That's a
world championship, world world Yeah, world championship shot at all
in is on the line.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Okay, anybody else? Who? Who?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
What else?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Let's you know, let me fall over my tongue like
Mercedes mommey on a Wednesday night and uh once she
first started anymore, But uh, who else?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
I'm ahead, go ahead, Barry, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
So I'm thinking about who else to add? Shane. That
was a great perspective to think, who's who's going to
take those l's. I'm pretty certain we're going to see
Jarrett because it's the Owen Cup and he's in every
year and they need somebody to lose and you can
use him as really sympathetic up against the heel And
there you go. As far as another, I'd love to
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see Takeshta, it was somebody from the Callous family, whether
it's to Kester Fletcher. I really think they got a
good thing with loading up with the three people they
have announced. I know you guys don't like champions being
in there. I think if they're tag holders, the Trios
or tag champs, that would be good. I'd love to
see MJF and somebody from the Hurt Syndicate in there
(04:49):
meeting in the first round. That could add some tention
to that feud. So I thought I was thinking a
little different from Shane's perspective, is like, who could be
a first round matchup that could further storylines And that's
kind of that's why I was thinking. You know, I'd
love to see MGF and maybe Shelton Benderman in their
MGF and lashly use this tournament instead of putting in
a couple more job guys, since all In is so
(05:11):
far away, use this tournament to book your top star
main event guys in your your top star main events
for your next couple of dynamites and collisions. There's no
reason you got to rush this in a in a
month or six week period. Each show is going to
have a main event that's relating to the owen you
loaded up with top guys. It kind of books itself
from a programming perspective, and then you can flesh out
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the rest of the show with your other storylines and angles.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I'm really glad that you brought up MJF because I
think he's kind of getting a little bit forgotten in AW.
I don't know, is anybody else going to say MJF.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I thought about go ahead, no good, No, yes, I
was gonna say MJF would be fantastic, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I'm okay.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
So I'm thinking Buddy Matthews needs to be involved. And
I also want to see Dastin Rhodes. You know, I
don't want to see Jef Jared again. Dastin Rhodes knows
to put on a good match, clean match, and he's sympathetic,
Like Barry said, so Dastin rose Is might pick to
at least win one match.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
I don't want to bump out the first round, but
he has ties to owen two.
Speaker 8 (06:19):
I was going to also say Dustin Rhodes, I would
very much so like to see him in this. I
like him in general, and I think this is a
fantastic place for him to showcase what he's got. So
that's my choice.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Interesting that it's it's it's interesting that nobody said guys
like Roderick Strong or Adam Cole. Although Adam Cole already
has a title shot at Dynasty, maybe it's not a
good idea to put him in there. But look, this
is Baward hart Cup isn't going to be rushed this year.
It doesn't look like it looks like it's going to
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take place over several weeks instead of just a month,
so at least I hope so so yeah, I mean
Roderick Strong, Adam Cole. Uh, you can even Kyle O'Reilly.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
What any of those interview after Dynasty Tolson, do you
know is it double or nothing?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Honestly, I don't know double or.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Nothing's coming up? And so we got Dynasty double or
nothing Forbidden Door and then ernest for one door before
or after all in.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I believe it's after all in.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
So is that I feel like we're missing one in there.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
It goes it goes dynasty double or nothing then all in.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, I mean okay, okay, yeah, basically all in and
double or all in and uh forbid door kind of
flip flopped a little bit or not in their usual
time slots put it that way or a month's later.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
I would set for the own to what you're saying
is not rush the Owen. The finals of the Owen
should be on the pay per view before all In,
and then that gives them a month to continue that
feud and into the UH and heading into all in.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Okay, Well, Shane, Well Shane, let's move on. What what
do you want to talk about here?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Well, I mean we could stick with the own, the
Owen Cup and the women. I mean we got Monette
Hater Stark's Athena, Rosa stat Lander. That's that's pretty heavy.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
We we're getting some exposition right now outside of the
Owen Cup with Money and Athena, which I'd kind of
like to see separate from the Owen Cup.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
That's my opinion.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
I think this is going to be a fantastic feud,
a great way to get these belts off of Mercedes.
So she could kind of, you know, redirect towards the
the bigger picture, the women's world scene, which we know
that's where she's headed. But you know, the own Cup
for with the women look looks pretty stacked right now.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I mean, yeah, there's six women in the cup already,
there's only two slots left.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Well, we'll probably see Willow and a wild card. And
I'm going to assume that a wild card would either
be you know, someone from the roh or the New
Japan side, or someone coming back from injury, could be
Britt Baker. You know, she's in under contract with Tony
Kah for another couple of years in spite of you know,
whatever indiscretions they might be having. You know, Barry shirt,
(09:25):
it's a work, It's always a work.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
So yeah, well, well, well well placed advertising today, thank you.
So I don't know, I think this women's the women's
own couple looks fantastic right now. Then it's hard to
call the ball.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Oh Barry, let me ask you, what about the ragining
owen Hart Cup winner. Do you think she enters it,
and that, of course is Mariah May.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
You know, does that we want to hold off on
that segue into the next segment, though, I'd love to
see Mariah in there.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
And if we're going to talk about previous champs, isn't
Willow a previous champ?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
To Willow is a previous champ. Baker is a previous champ.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (10:12):
I think that's it, right.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I think, yeah, Britt Britt, Britt and Adam Cole won
the first one, and then it was uh uh Ricky
Starks and Willow and then it was Mariah May and
uh who won it last year?
Speaker 6 (10:37):
I thought, who did win the men's last year? Yeah,
So if we're looking for a different a couple extra entrants,
I'd like to see Julia Harden there. They don't have
her in a program developed with anybody right now, So
(10:57):
get her in there. And you know, if we're gonna
grab somebody out of left field something, we have an
answer tam With the men's I'd like them to pull
somebody from another promotion. If we're talking about somebody who'd
taken out bringing in New Japan or CMML personality. So
with the men and then with the women Stardom CMML
as well works. Uh, you know, bring in some talent
from from overseas to take that out a little showcase
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in the first round.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah right, yeah, I mean it won't be Mina shira
Kala because she's a little busy right now. She's I
believe the first week of this month is when she
wraps up with with Stardom, but she's already booked for
a couple of dates. She's taking on azm or Azumi. Uh,
(11:44):
pretty soon. There's I mean four rounds round. I can
stretch it out. I just don't see Mina Shirakala coming
in and taking a spot in this. I really don't
the joker position.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
And then and that's the big reveal in six weeks
or whatever when they do the next first round match
for the women.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, if they do that, it's going to be down
the road. It really will be. Anybody else have any
ideas about the two women that should fill in the
spot that's open.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
I would like to see Palazzo in it. I'd like
to see her do some more. I think she's really good.
And yeah, I'd like to see her out there some more.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, I mean, look, when you're talking about aw's women's division,
and we're going to get into like an injury report
in just a little bit. But with the women that
are there right now, in the last three AW shows
that aired on the regular timeslot, not counting the Collisions,
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the Slam Dug Collisions that had that aired at eleven o'clock,
but the last two Dynamites and the last Collision were
all main evented by women. Megan Baine, as a matter
of fact, made event at the last two Dynamites that
has not been done by a woman since twenty twenty
(13:12):
three when a Carusheeda took on and beat Tony Storm
in the main event of Dynamite. I believe it was
in August of twenty twenty three, and then the next
week she took on Anna j in the main event
of Dynamite. So the Karlsheda and Megan Bain, there's some
(13:35):
history for you there.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Well, I mean, if we're sticking with the men, I
know you had something to say about this, but like,
the women are getting a lot of airtime, especially in
the main event arena and the AW standard shows.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah. Absolutely. Do you think does anybody think that this
point blank that revolution there has been an argument that
Tony Storm and Mariah May should have or could have
made event to that, do you think that Dynasty or
even Double or nothing has a possibility of a women's
(14:19):
made event or even all in.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Love to see it. I would love to see it, honestly.
And it's great that they're getting, you know, the headline
on the standard shows. It's great they're getting more representation.
But I want, I do believe that they deserve It's
not a deserving thing. They're entitled to a main event
for pay per view. Tony Storm's feud with Mariah May
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was probably the most interesting thing going on in professional
wrestling for five and a half months. That could have
easily headlined that show and kept asses in seats the
entire time.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Jane, that was sixteen months that story went on. Sure,
there was a long break with Tony Storm, wasn't there,
but that was part of the story as well. But
it was sixteen months from beginning to end.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I mean every single turn, every single you know, like
every single surprise it kept. It was very fresh, and
yeah that if they're going to keep the women's division
like pumping like this, I could see it happening. It
should happen. I don't think it's happening soon, though.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Anybody else think that the women are going to makee
event the pay per view anytime soon? I do. Shane doesn't,
even though he would like to see it, he doesn't
think it's going to happen. I do think it's going
to happen.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
I think they can. I don't think there's anything right
now that justifies it. The chance was the Mariah made
Tony Storm blow off like that was that was the
time to do it, and it just didn't line up
with what they were looking to do. But if they
were going to main event, that was it. And it's
not the women's fault. They're just not given as much
(16:09):
stuff to work with. So there's only two, maybe three
storylines at a time as opposed to six or seven
with the men now right now, if you're looking at them,
you have to start a build for that to justify
it in a couple months. I mean, they're capable of it.
I don't think anybody can sit here objectively and argue
that Tony Storm versus Mariah may wouldn't have been a
(16:34):
draw for a main event like it was, Like Shane said,
and Kelson mentioned, some of the best content in storylines,
in acting really for professional wrestling in a long long time,
like nothing had been done like that. I think we
saw a complete character transformation of character work on parallel
so far, but that's an outlier, like that's exceptional. There
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isn't enough consistency yet to give them that. And I
think the last couple of weeks I've been trial runs,
what sort of draw are the ladies. It's not been
like Rando Women main eventing. It's been the Top women
main eventing. The biggest story they got going is the
Tony Storm rhyme for making bain things. So like they're
keeping the main people in there and see how they draw,
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and it's been mixed. Some's been good, some's been bad,
but you're not going to know those until you try.
And the other thing to keep in mind is their
main eventing. Are they giving them enough juice to pulling
ratings for that or is it just seemed thrown together?
So I think we're going to see them experiment a
little more and if they get something going that's really hot, yeah,
no reason they can't Maine event just like any other storyline.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
So I can see the only one I could see
main eventing would be double or nothing, and that would
be if they could figure out how to do Mercedes
versus Athena. Either all want it to be great bad. I
don't see all In doing it, but double or nothing.
I can see that storyline happening, and if they can
juice it up well enough.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Well, okay, you know that Athena is from yeah, Texas, Texas,
so yeah, I mean right right there in the backyard,
So that would make a little bit of sense happened
Athena e mer Sades at all In in Texas. I
just think that's a little bit too long of a
build for for that, Matt, But I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Know, I mean, especially especially lately with how they kind
of been dragging out some of the other storylines that
are in play. Yeah, I think all like waiting for
Texas is a very long time.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
I don't know they've done it before, but you know
they're trying to hype up Ocado versus Kenny for all Into, So.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
I mean, you never know what could happen, but I
could see it.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
I think they should hold off to Allan. I think
they should slow roll this. I think they should slow
roll this and they should just tease it, have them
have wars of words or war words as they dance
around the edges, like I'm saying, and then have them
in something at a pay per view. But slow roll
this because somebody else at the moment is all in.
(19:07):
If you were going to establish somebody as a new star,
there's two ways to do it. They're going to win
the big title or they're going to win the TVs title.
A win over Mercedes Monnett arguably can establish somebody stronger
than a win over Tarney Storm for the belt right now,
that's debatable. But you've got two very very strong champions
right now in the women's division, and these are opportunities
(19:29):
to make a new star. And if you're going to
do that, you do that at the biggest event possible.
And that's all in. So if she's going to be
the go forward in the TBS division Athena, you do
it on the biggest stage possible in her hometown to
make that as big a deal as possible. Otherwise it's
a wasted opportunity in my view. I'm with MK on that.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well, here's another thing that you'd need to consider as well.
I brought this up earlier Azuomi and Mina Shirikala at
Resurgence later this month. I believe are sling to become
the number one contender for the n jp W Strong
Women's title. Uh. The winner of that that could be
(20:11):
a match for Mercedes at double or nothing right.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
There, I can see.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Okay, So here's my thing. I think Athena is somehow
going to lose her title, and Mercedes will lose one
of her titles, thus fueling the fire. They'll cause each
other to loon or something, and then they'll face it
all in.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
That's what I would like to see.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I don't think that Athena is going to lose that
I ever lose that title. They've made too much of
a big deal out of the forever champion. I think
that they're going to have her vacated like somebod with
Joe vacated his and go from there.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
See I hate that myself.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
But what's the other She's got two belts? Though, what's
the other promotion she has it from?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Who?
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Two belts? The spinner back?
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And then?
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Or is it just okay? I thought she had an
Indie belt, So in my bed, no you can.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
We're gonna I'm gonna check that. I did want to
make a point, Barry kind of piggyback off of what
you said. As much as I hate the idea of
them dragging it to Texas, it is an opportunity for
them to do some fun stuff behind the scenes, Like,
you know, we could put the minions to work, have
some story that way, and we're getting you know, people
(21:22):
getting are getting attacked behind state, behind the scenes. You know,
there's they could drag it out and have it be
fun and kind of make sure the women.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
And Shane don't forget that. On Collision, we saw the
seed planted of the Renegades joining with Mercedes bone H.
Robin Renegade of course was there. Charlotte Renegade has been injured,
but it looks like she may be able to come
back soon. And she's been cutting hair. She's been she's
(21:56):
that's what she's been doing in her time off. And
but she did make a comment about Robin at Collision
and how psych she was, So that was interesting. Speaking
of injured wrestlers, Shane like Charlotte Renegade.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, so I'm gonna run down who we got out right,
like the official aw, this is what they've given to
the media their list of talent that's out and I'll
try to be as fast as possible. So we have
Red Velvet with an unknown injury back in January. Buddy
Matthews has an ankle injury that he sustained Grand Slam.
Juice Robinson the broken fabia on collision. Back in November,
(22:40):
kill Switch had like serious long term pneumonia. They thought
he was going to die. He's just kinda he says
he's ready. No, there's no story, but there are conflicting
stories about him coming back because of long term implications
of his respiratory stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Nick Comarado has a hip injury.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Skyblue has been out since July twenty two, twenty four,
just went under underwent.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Surgery and.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
She provided an update and said that she's not cleared yet.
Dalton Castle has an unknown injury that he sustained in
collision and he's going to be out until the middle
of this year. Rehost fractured arm. She's going to be
out for another six months. Matt saidel's a broken right
foot that he's currently in rehab for. Trent Burrett is
an active from a spine injury that he had surgery
(23:25):
on that he's doing PT for Eddie Kingston with his
torn ACL and his meniscus back in May, which he's
currently in PT for very public about his recovery, so
I could see Eddie coming back sooner than later. The
Blader had ruptured discs in his spine spinal fusion, says
surgery was scheduled for this year, or teases out with
(23:46):
a torn peck that he sustained in January twenty twenty four.
But I've seen that he's scheduled for indie shows coming
up here soon, so I think they're just not using
him in AW And then Keith Lee s has long
term COVID, but he's been hanging out backstage since February,
so he could be back anytime. And Uh, that's the
(24:08):
injury report. That's everybody.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Wow, Yeah, that is quite a roster of wrestlers that
are injured.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
I'm sorry that we haven't done the injury report. No
a red hot second Colson. I think it was a
couple of months the last one, so.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I can't remember the last time we did one.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, we used to do them all the time, so
any I will, let's move to the panel. You know
who you guys pumped to see him back. I got
I'm all for a Dalton Castle.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
That just me. The Keith Lee is amazing as well.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I think Keithley has world champion written all over him
with if I think if Swerve holds, then Keig Lee
coming back will look fantastic.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
I yeah, I want to see Dalton Castle come back,
and I want to see him working with Megan Bain.
I want to see him. I want to see him
be Megan Bane's employee. I think that would be great.
I think I think he has the charisma and the
character to pull it off. I'm bummed the Boys aren't
there anymore due to whatever happened with that. You can
(25:12):
get some new ones or whatever. But like Dalton Castle's
stick where they are doing it and worshiping Megan Bane,
I think that would be amazing. Especially if she jobs
out of the pay per view. That's the next piece
to keep her fresh on TV. He's down a little bit,
Dalton Castle picks her back up.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Work outrunners being the Boys brought a consistent basis there
for a while before Dalton got injured.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Yes, I think the.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Boys are now, Aw's dooint the clown. We don't know
who's going to be.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
They're a lottery backstage.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
They should have a few people be the boys, like
alternate them every so often every week. It is some
kind of gimmick, some kind of joke. Yeah, I mean,
just anybody, anybody come out as as a boy.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I would love to see age character come out as yeah, exactly,
just disgusted.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
Yeah, it would be great.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
I think.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
To get on his hands and knees so that can
climb up in there.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
That his doing that.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Oh God, take my money now.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
I think Max Pastor would be good as one of
the boys arguing about who's better, who looks better?
Speaker 6 (26:46):
You know, Max. I think Max would be really good
at that.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Yeah, speaking of Max, anybody else Fantasy book Max's open
challenge at all in being on Cold?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Oh no, I keep hearing that it's the most preposterous thing.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Well, I mean it's a hilarious It would it would.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Make sense just literally Stone Cold wouldn't have to wrestle.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Right, he's in Austin. It would be a huge pop.
I mean, obviously it's not gonna happen, but I mean
the logistics and the storytelling workout. Max Caster's open challenge,
the glass hits whatever generic rip off of his team.
He comes out kicks and using the sunner, leaves a
million dollars pay day. Everybody loses their mind. I mean
for a moment, never gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, they'd have to call him stunning Steve Austin instead
of Stone. I'm just saying.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
So, I want Keith Lee to come back, but I
want him to be worked back up at Dynasty.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
He didn't need to back up.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
And I really think that those two compared to they
have history, know if they ever made up or not,
but uh, you know, he don't need to back up
to beat John Moxley with all the interference, and I
think big big Hole himself, Keith.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Lee would would be a great fit for that.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
What what's the other side of that coin, is Keith
Lee coming back and like partnering back up with sort
of Strickland joining the embassy. That could be fun. Yeah,
I mean, look, hey, we were homies. Men pug it out,
you know, time time heals all.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, I am one with you on the men's side,
Keith Lee. Don't get me wrong. I want all the
wrestlers that are injured to come back healthy and able
to wrestle. Wrestle by the way. I love Eddie Kingston,
but on the women's side and on the women's side
sky Blue, I mean just having her back with Julia
(28:59):
Hart or even and Leenomanada, if that's the way they
want to go. Uh, it's she's she's just she's a
work course, she's wanted a workhourses of aw they need her.
She always puts on a good show and she's popular.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
So she was really humbling before she got her.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Knew, Yeah, she was coming into her own.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I do believe she was on track to get a
title belt. I think she may have gotten the TBS
title if Mercedes Moda didn't come along and ruined that.
But hey, but Shane, you had something else you wanted
to talk about.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I'm looking at free agency, and you know, obviously this
is a big year for free agency across the entire
you know, Professional Wrestling Platform, AWWWE, New Japan, they all
have huge contract the TNA, huge contracts on the way
(29:58):
out the door. So I mean, just to get given
an example, you know, WWE. This is aj styles final
year with WWE as far as we know right now,
and he's refused to sign anything both from the TNA
side and the WWE side, Well, how crazy would that
be to see him come over to AW after his
(30:18):
contract is up at the end of May. That'd be sweet,
That's like, that's like dream for mem so. But yeah,
what do you guys, You guys got any insight on
the whole free agency thing or who is a free
agent or who's on the back end of their contracts.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Most of who we follow, Mariah is up.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yeah, I get that with Mariah, her contract is up,
her original contract. But fightful at other places have said
that AW has options there, and AW, if they do
have options, would be incredibly stupid not check exercise those options.
(31:01):
We just don't. We just don't know.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Good on her believing on herself and doing that shorter
term contract though, because I know Tony tries to get
a lot of people over in three or five years
and she knew what she had. That's losing if Mariah jumped,
I mean, that's that's a sizeable loss, and it's I mean,
there's no way WWE wouldn't go after her. She's a
great talent and she was in one of the biggest
storylines of the year in any promotion.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
So yeah, I think that Tony is I think Tony
would put the jags on keeping Mariah May, and he'd
be stupid not to like she. She's she will be
quintessential and whatever they choose to do to elevate the
women's division within the next six months when she comes back,
there's going to be hell to pay.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Oh huge pop when she comes back.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Huge can't so or even I mean, like we didn't
consider her being in the Owen uh the Owen Hard Cup.
You know, imagine they have a wild card or a
joker and it's Mariah May. She takes it all the
way and she's up against Tony Storm.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
Again at all.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
When you're talking free agency, Shane. One of the things
that look, as you said, there are wrestlers in TNA
and New Japan and wwe don't forget Stardom that are
have contracts expiring. You also have people and of course
AW that has contract expiring. But more so what you
(32:28):
have at AW are a bunch of wrestlers that frankly
are on the absentee list. They are cleared to wrestle,
but they're just not wrestling, and why have them on
the roster. You know, we're talking about free agencies We've
(32:49):
got to talk about releases as well. I mean, look
at look, Britt Baker could be released. Why keep Britt Baker?
If somebody like a zoom for just throwing a name
out there, a ZOOMI your Starlight kid from start to
become available, why would you keep Britt Baker not even wrestling.
(33:16):
You know, I'm.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Just saying the politics behind the scenes with it.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
It's now known that there that Britt Baker was gate
keeping the locker room for the women. It's unfortunately, you know,
like like that's all out in the open, and we
didn't really see her start to kind of go down
in programming until that was kind of publicized. So I
mean with the Britt Baker thing, yeah, yeah, like do
(33:44):
we I agree with you Kelson? Just drop her if
she doesn't want to be here. See you have a
nice day and enjoy your time in NXT with all
your old friends. You know, see it in six months
when they dump you for the next round of guys
that they're gonna poach you know. Yeah right, he like
remove all like regarding a e W stuff from her
(34:06):
like Twitter, like remove all the yeah, scrubbed.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I mean, look, we aw just picked up Kevin Knight
mm hmm. You know, look, if you have wrestler that
is not wrestling and you replace that wrestler with Kevin Knight,
that's a great pickup. It's a great pickup. There's no
other way to look at it. It's a great pickup.
(34:36):
We talked about the olwen Hart. Kevin Knight's another name
you can throw in there as a participant in that.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
Yeah, doesn't know, nobody would expect them to win.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
No great way to introduce him though, and that's what
they need right now because I don't know much about him,
so it will be nice to see him have have
imagined build him up a little bit.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Yeah, I talked a little bit about this on the discord.
WWE's got clearly they've got an XT which from a
I don't even know if you can call them a
developmental territory anymore or promotion. They're almost a third brand,
if not a formal third brand. But they've got that
going there, and there's that's a direction for a lot
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of performers to work towards out on the indies, and
now with the WWID program, they've got a whole other
layer below that to kind of grow that audience that
they'll draft up from. It's a really really well developed
farm system and AAW doesn't have that. So Tony, if
you look at a lot of the hires they've been doing,
he's been really focusing on a lot of people under
(35:41):
thirty five, especially a lot of talent under thirty, having
those guys that if you lose top stars and you
start building them now in two or three years, those
are those those next top stars, and they're at an
age where you can ride those guys for ten to
fifteen years. You know, you're not bringing in You're not
bringing in somebody who's thirty five, who's got five or
six years where they can still kind of go full speed,
(36:02):
and then they start having to taper off because while
the character work and the promos of their peak, the
body really starts falling off. So he's he's really been
focusing on those hires, and I think Kevin Hurt or
not Kevin Hurt, Kevin is a good addition to that
group of guys. And you've got you know, hang Man,
You've got Swerve, You've got Osprey, you've got m JF.
(36:24):
You know, a lot of these younger top guys are
are pretty young and Uh and I think this is
a good edition of that group and growing up.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Erry, I got to disagree with you on something that
you said, and that you said or alluded to at
least that AW does not have a developmental promotion, and
I disagree with you. It's called New Japan Pro Wrestling.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
I was going to go there, Kelson, I don't want.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
To go there. I was thinking about it as a joke.
It's funny because God, honestly, God, it's the truth.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
Though I was thinking and mentioning from a developmental that
they have to pull from other promotions like CMML RevPro
and New Japan. But I decided not to as I
was saying it. But like, it's a joke, but it's
not untrue. And I think we've seen, especially for a
lot of North American and European talent, being it's a
lot easier logistically to work for AW than it is
(37:24):
New Japan. But a lot of them are very fond memories.
They like to go back and work there. It's a
fun place for a lot of them to work, So
I don't think that's a bad thing. But you know,
a lot of us have a soft spot for New
Japan and it's hard seeing some of the talent that
they spend years developing leave. But that's the way wrestling
is now, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yeah, Hey, we've seen a lot of people in AW leave,
you know with the last what year to you know,
year year and a half, though it happens. I mean,
that's why, that's the way wrestling is.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
As you said, I'd like to mention about Kevin Knight.
I've seen him in the Independence and I saw a
phenomenal match between he and Benjamin Shelton, just amazing, and
I've seen some of his work in New Japan. I
(38:18):
like him a lot. I think he's a really good
addition to AW. I also think that what's his name,
Blake who.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Wrestled Kenny Christian.
Speaker 8 (38:31):
I think that he's really good and there's a lot
of potential there. So I would agree with the younger
guys coming in and being the next top stars. I
can see it with at least those two wrestlers right there.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
I'd also like to say I'm an idiot because AW
does have a development or territory. It's called Ring of Honor,
and it's literally their developmental promotion, and it just right
out of my head. So it popped that.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
In my head.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
I'm like, how did I forget about Ring of Honor?
I'm an idiot? So thank you Nett for inadvertently reminding me.
I'm an idiot.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
You know what, though, I didn't even think about it
because I honestly don't consider Ring of Honor development will
watch it.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
Yeah, I just don't see it.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
That's why I think it's its own entity and it's
got the history and I if you watch a Ring
of Honor, it's a damn good show. It's it's meaningful.
I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
It is what it is.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I mean like when I think about Ring of Honor,
I think about like twenty fourteen through seventeen, like when
the Ring of Honor boom was like a really big thing,
you know, Tony Kahan putting his hands on that product
kind of Tony conified it.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
It's more of just like died aw. I love Ring
of Honor. Yeah good, I'm just saying, you know, like
that is what it is, so still love it. Yeah,
I couldn't.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
Flavor give it its own flavor. Just let somebody else
book it.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, like Scott da More, Gail Can.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
All of the well.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
Speaking of hiring a free agency that you didn't mention that.
I really really hope, especially since we've talked about the
women's division so much, that AW has at least talked
with Gail Kim from like what she did with the
women in TNA over the years. I think she would
be She's she's as great a backstage hire, assuming she's
a professional. I don't I've never heard anything other than
(40:21):
everybody loves working with her. She'd be a surefire thing
for backstage possible.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
You know, you know Barry in this podcast we were
talking about the women's division, and in the early days
of this podcast, and there was a time on this
podcast where TNA was the women's division, the women's division.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah, you know, Gail Kim.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
What she's known for in the industry being able to
confidently tell people know why and why it's going to
benefit them, and she has a very high success right
in that, which is I think is something that Tony
Kahan needs, especially in the women's division. Someone that's going
to come in and say, hey, I know this better
than you do. No, this is a stupid idea. Let's
(41:10):
do it this.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Way and two matches every show, let me run it
so Basically, what you're saying is, if Gail Came is
hired by a W Britt Baker is absolutely out.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
I would I would, dud.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
Do we know that Britt isn't just deciding maybe to
retire dude to her thing and just focus on being
a dentist here in Orlando? Like do we know that?
Are we certain.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
It could be?
Speaker 6 (41:37):
I mean, because if she was to sign with w W,
she couldn't be a dentist anymore. The schedule is too tough,
and I don't know if she wants to give that up.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
I don't know. Well, I will have to give her
a call. I'll give her a call after the podcast.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Is it like it's aebrity dentist things like a celebrity therapist.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
We're going to be Baker.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
It's in winter Park back in the day. Yeah, she'd
ever belts for her any promotions and stuff. But I
don't think they do new clients anymore. It's all just
for existing ones. I have a friend of mine who
goes to the dentist, but he sees the one of
the guys that's there.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yeah. I wanted to bring up some news that came
out a couple of days ago. I think it was
actually yesterday morning that it came out. BJ Bethel, how
do you put out? Is it s scoops or SE scoops?
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Guys that are to go scoops?
Speaker 3 (42:37):
It's see scoops. Uh. He said that on average, since
aw went to Max, on average here the first twenty
four hours after show airs, meaning either live or within
a twenty four hour period, it's averaging five hundred k
viewers a week. That's an average of five hundred k
(42:57):
viewers a week. So sometimes it's more and sometimes it's less,
which means that the average Dynamite from this year is
getting one million to one point two million viewers a week,
which is really good. Now fightful select Sean ross Sapp
made a post that has got about six thousand votes.
(43:19):
The last time I looked, asking, uh, well, I hate
bringing this up like this, asking if you watch there
was three options. Do you watch Dynamite on TBS, do
you watch Dynamite on Max? Or do you pirate the shit?
Basically is what he asked. Oh wow, by far more
(43:42):
people watch Dynamite on Max. Forty six percent said they
watched it on Max. I can't remember the percentages, but
there's a pretty disturbingly high amount of people who said
that they pirated it.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
So well, the count Triller I used to I used
to uh pirate it.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
So you don't want to admit that on the podcast. Man,
they're gonna come in a.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Cut that I don't know if.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
You irating, if you're using a formal app to view it,
maybe you were a little shady and how you signed
up for it, But I mean it's through a formal
official channel, So I don't know if i'd say that's pirty.
Speaker 7 (44:28):
Maybe maybe Well, when when you cut the cord and
they don't have other options, you have to be sneaky,
so creative.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
Yeah, I mean, like it's still you know, guarantees take
it at tadense t shirts ails. You know you're it's
still giving product exposure, so which is a great thing
for a w I mean like they've they've doubled their
demographic for viewership just by getting over to max.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
They're going to continue to grow.
Speaker 6 (45:00):
I listened to Wrestling Observer talked about this last night
Alvarez and Meltzer, and then Alvares talked about it on
The Wrestling Observer Live a little bit today, kind of
breaking down how streamers and Netflix does this too, so
they kind of talked about them together on how the
average viewer number is a calculated thing based on a
certain number of minutes divided by certain number subscribers and
(45:22):
this weird thing. So it doesn't necessarily equate to five
hundred thousand actual people, but all of the viewing of
that period adds up to five hundred thousand people as
though they were sitting down and I think live they're
estimating it was around probably one hundred and twenty five
one hundred and fifty thousand additional or watching live. So
you add that on top of the other thing that
(45:44):
I want to add in here that I got over myself.
So you've got that watching live, and the ratings have
stayed pretty linear and flat, if not have come up
from the dip they had in February and not really
lose one hundred, one hundred and fifty thousand in watching
on live TV and add that to live streaming. That's
(46:04):
a that's pretty impressive. It's not WWE impressive, but they're
not in a completely different situation for AW considering their
struggles to have that, I think that's impressive, and ratings
are going to come up before attendance rises significantly, and
I think we see a little bit better attendance coming
up on some of these venues too, compared to where
they've been now. The programming has been a lot better
(46:25):
up through Revolution hasn't been the same high quality. It's
just not as much good stuff on each shows, and
I think that had something to do with it. But
there's definitely positive signs here. They're not out of the
weeds and won't be for a while another eighteen to
twenty four months at least, and because it's just the programming,
but you look at some of the fig leaves here,
there's some promising trends.
Speaker 7 (46:46):
Yeah, it really it's cool to see them get the
million voters. I think you know a lot of people
on the internet who have that goal post of well
they can't break a million a million a week, so
they're not quality, and then we have that that go.
Both will probably be moved again. But I think they
(47:06):
did a great service of allowing both cable and streaming
to be because that gets them additional stuff, where in
my opinion, WWE kind of shot themself on the foot
with only being on Netflix and kind of limited their exposure.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Well, on the topic of WWE, they're reporting viewership in
the same ballpark. But the way that Netflix calculates viewership
for WWE is different than how they build that metric
for Max. You know, anyone that's logged in the Netflix
could be watching WWE, and they just say that everyone
(47:45):
that's logged in is watching WWE, which I think is weird.
Speaker 6 (47:50):
Yeah, is that just for them though, Like, as far
as I know from what I've read up on it.
In friends of mine in the industry, their metrics for
streaming is just so bizarre compared to TV. I have
a friend of mine who works for an agency, and
he was just talking about how when they're pitching shows,
the way they have to talk about advertisements they can
sell on network versus when that goes to streaming and
(48:13):
how that's bundled per Like, it's just it's really weird
how they calculate it, and I mean it fits we're
stuck thinking about television. We talk about streaming services, but
they're not television. There's something different that happens to have
shows that are similar to what was on TV, and
so they crunch those numbers just really really bizarre, And
(48:36):
I think there's a definite story there to see if
when it comes to advertising for the live stuff, if
the advertisers are ever really going to believe any of
the numbers they're given. We're just dipping our toes into
live streaming for sporting events, and I include a wrestling
in that live sports, combat entertainment or whatever. It'll be
really interesting to see those trends if they do believe
(48:58):
those numbers long term. And I'm interested to see how
Netflix is going to lead that because the five hundred
pund guerrilla is WWE for live programming right now in
the non you know, n b A NFL world, and
what they do there are probably set the tone for
everything else, including AW.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
Down the line, Well, there is one thing that I
wanted to bring up, actually a couple of things about
this BJ Bethel story that he that he brought up
with the five hundred thousand average viewers. He did say that,
and I don't know if there's any truth to this
that AW is beating the NHL in viewership on a
(49:35):
consistent basis. That's they're not beating the NBA. But the
thing is is that when the when the NHL and
when the n b A is on Max. Those programs
are are advertising AW. And now MLB is on Max,
(49:57):
so not much, but they are on there, and hopefully
we'll see some advertisements for AW on the Major League
Baseball broadcast MAX. So you know that's part of it.
The other thing that he and here's the barometer of
the success at how AW is growing. This is what
I use AW right now is running smaller venues, which
(50:19):
is a great thing. It really adds to the shows.
The crowds are hotter, they're more visible, they're having a
good time. You have a good time when you see
other people having a good time. But my barometer for
aw's success, if they do get to a point of success,
is when people start complaining that they're not able to
(50:41):
get tickets to AW shows because these small venues. That's
all I wanted to say, Shane, let's go to you.
What's next? What are we gonna do next?
Speaker 1 (50:52):
We're at Poprie.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
O Perrie.
Speaker 4 (50:58):
Who's got some potpourri today? I've got that's something cute.
I'll start this one out, so I follow.
Speaker 6 (51:03):
Wait, I want to tag in on a venue thing
real quick. I thought I was unmuted. I thought I
was muted. So in two weeks. Aw's at the Masonic
Temple in Detroit, so that's where I grew up. I've
been there. It's an amazing venue. It's going to look
exceptional on television, and I'm super excited to see the
two though.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
Spec you Shane, Sorry, yeah, I know you're Florida based.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
I was like, I'm going to Tory's. See, I'll drive
it there.
Speaker 6 (51:27):
Really really cool venue. Yeah, it's gonna be great in
two weeks.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:30):
I saw pictures that's supposed to be like like Hammerstein grades,
so I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
Yeah, I pictures too, that looks awesome.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
Yeah, so all right, back to pot Pourri. Uh, I'll
star pot Pourri really just something. Usually I like to
be a jerk during these segments, but today I'm just
we're chilled today Ruby's I follow Ruby Sojo and Angelo
Parker on social media and it appears that I don't
know if they're taking steps back from AW, but they're
opening a board game shop, like a board game cafe together,
(51:59):
so like a like a hobby shop. So that looks
like it's gonna be a lot of fun and good
for them. They're living there. Got the little slice of
the American dream.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
Yeah, why not. They got a family. Now what you know,
do what you gotta do. That's that's awesome.
Speaker 6 (52:15):
Where are they based?
Speaker 1 (52:18):
That is a good question.
Speaker 8 (52:21):
Indiana.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
Someone pick a song off of Indiana and the wolves
come out from I can't remember the state from Olympia.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Oh no, they're not from Indiana.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
Indiana.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
It's Indiana.
Speaker 5 (52:41):
Yes, state.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Where is it?
Speaker 3 (52:47):
Where's Indiana? I have no idea where located in Indiana?
Speaker 6 (52:52):
Indiana with in the Greater Indiana Metropolitan Area area.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
What's the capital of Indiana?
Speaker 5 (53:06):
I thought, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (53:14):
Indianapolis?
Speaker 5 (53:16):
Yeah, yeah, Indio.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
Okay, well that makes sense. Indianapolis is an Indiana. Who knew.
Speaker 6 (53:30):
Name for a city?
Speaker 5 (53:32):
Are so similar sixth graders?
Speaker 8 (53:34):
Now?
Speaker 5 (53:34):
Yes, uh.
Speaker 8 (53:37):
There's a fun fact that there is a city in
Illinois in southern Illinois called Metropolis, and the whole theme
of the city is built around Superman.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Oh yeah, there's a.
Speaker 8 (53:50):
Statue and a museum and a festival hall time.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
I've been there.
Speaker 8 (53:56):
Yeah, me too. So there's there's.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
That y'all know about Hershey, Pennsylvania, I.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
Live in Pennsylvania. Let me tell you about Pennsylvania back
back when, went back when there was the colonies you know,
people just would name towns, and I know this about Pennsylvania.
They were just named towns and they would be cheeky
(54:23):
with them. I mean, Pennsylvania used to have names of
towns like Horrorsville and Sally's Crotch. You know, now.
Speaker 9 (54:37):
We still have intercourse. I mean, of course, intercourse will
never change. Yeah, but yeah, but uh yeah, uh.
Speaker 3 (54:49):
All right, moving along now that anybody else, anybody else
a w related potri.
Speaker 5 (54:59):
Us I do uh.
Speaker 7 (55:03):
I want to say, I have really something I haven't
said in a while, is I have become really interested
in Adam Cole storyline for once. I like what he's
doing with Daniel Garcia. I'm really hoping he wins at Dynasty.
He deserves the belt. If he can stay healthy, he
will be a good champion to have on there and
(55:24):
boost other people.
Speaker 5 (55:26):
It's he's kind of.
Speaker 7 (55:27):
Came back from from the NJF storyline and he's in
my opinion, he's kind of doing better than m JF
right now.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
Interesting. Well, of course MGF did say something about having
the best natural tan in the business. I think that's
said something about that last week and that everybody's jealous.
During our live chat on collision shades. The vibe was
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saying something that I found interesting was like, and I
didn't notice it, but Adam Cole is kind of filling
out a little bit. He doesn't look like a little
skinny pip squeak anymore. He looks good. He looks good.
Speaker 6 (56:11):
He didn't put on weight. He leaned out so like
his arms and stuff for the same size Kelson, but
he just leaned out his midsection. He looks he looks great.
I think whatever he's doing, he keeps it up because
he came back and he was really soft. But like
you said, Kelson, he's he's leaned out and just looks fantastic.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
Now.
Speaker 6 (56:29):
Well he seems to faster too.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
Well, he's not scared to debt to eat right anymore
because he used to live with a dentist.
Speaker 10 (56:39):
But I mean, yeah, yeah, go ahead, okay, or does
anybody else have a potpourri?
Speaker 6 (56:53):
I got appropriate, go for it. Not a w but
it is pro wrestling related. So we saw the natural
disasters are getting went into the WWE Hall of Fame.
And as I mentioned on the show a couple of
times in the night, I'm here in Orlando, and when
I was early on in my college career at UCF.
Here there was a bar and John Tenta worked the
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door occasionally. I don't know. I think he was friends
with the guy and just hung out, and every now
and then a couple of folks would get a little
unruly inside. It wasn't really a bar with fights, but
they had a bouncer guy, but he'd have to, you know,
help some people out. This one time, though, this this
dude just got an all out brawl and the bouncer
guy they had there was struggling. Tento was at the
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door and he's like, excuse me, brothers, I'll be right back,
and he got up as he's going to help this guy.
We all started chanting earthquake, earthquake, earthquake, and he just
was smiling and just he barely could get over there.
He was laughing and broke it up and came back
and sat down, and we were giving him a hard time.
But it was a fun little moment. And I probably
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saw him there at the bar five or six times,
and he was always just incredibly nice. Yes, and I
was sad to see when he passed away, but I'm
glad to see the natural disasters are going into the
hall of fame, So he's a good dude.
Speaker 3 (58:08):
Yeah, congratulations to them. I always like those guys too, yea.
You know, they're one of the guys that you couldn't
help but root for.
Speaker 6 (58:18):
No bad stories in real life about ten to either.
All the interviews, everybody loved them, even back to when
he worked in Japan doing Soon and stuff.
Speaker 3 (58:27):
Well, that's going to end Ignition for tonight. Tomorrow Night's
going to be a very interesting show. For all the talk.
We are going to do a review of AW Dynamite,
especially because they're doing the owen Hart brackets, will finally
be able to give our opinions on the full brackets
of the owen Hart and of course some of the
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matches that happened on AW Dynamite. But we're also going
to be doing a preview of AW Dynasty. Hopefully by
tomorrow Night will know pretty much the full card for
AW Dynasty, and we'll be able to give our thoughts
and predictions and all the happiness that goes with that.
You know, make total idiots of ourselves because we're never right.
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We don't even keep a scorecard anymore because it's just
got too depressing to keep. We just talk and figure out.
But if you're interested, join us on our discord tomorrow night.
Come into the Ignition and All Lead Talk channel and
either turn on your mic and join us in the
voice or just stay in the chatroom and make your
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comments and predictions in the chat room and we'll just
have a good time. We will just have a good time.
We always do. You hear us tonight, We laugh, we
cut up, we insult each other, but it's all with
love and respect. True that. So we look forward to
tomorrow night because we get to talk to each other
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yet again. I don't know about you guys, but Wednesday
Adapter Dynamite, we did all the talk and it seems
like three weeks went by until tonight. I don't know
what it is, but it just seemed to drag on.
I don't know if you guys feel the same way.
It just seemed like a long break. I don't know why.
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But anyway, that's the show for tonight. Thanks for listening
to Ignition. This is Kelson, This is Shane. Good night, everybody,
take care, everybody, good night. Eddie kicks dead.
Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
He'll be back next week.
And nine.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Ignition six five four three two one zero. All engine running.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
Ignition with the aw fat Hub podcast team. If you
haven't already done so, please go check out Shades the
Vibes new aw fat Hub podcast Vibe Check. It's really interesting.
They're really short ten minutes long, so they're very easy
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listening and he's he does a great job with it.
Please go check it out. Let's get started with Ignition.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
This is Kelson and this is Shane. What's going on panel?
Nice to see everybody. So Kelson, what do you want
to talk about? First man?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, you know what. Shades actually brought this up on
his Vibe Check podcast. I wanted to talk about the
owen Hart Cup. On Dynamite on Wednesday, they're revealing the
owen Hart Cup brackets. Now there's eight wrestlers in each division,
meaning the women's division and the men's division. Let's talk
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about the men's division. Because of the eight wrestlers, I
believe only three have been announced and we got to
fill out this bracket. I kind of like to do
a little bit of fantasy booking here. Right now, we
only have Will Ospray, Jay White and Hangman In and Paige.
We've got five empty slots, and as Shade said, they're
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kind of I don't know, it's hard to fill it
out because you've got title holders. We've already expressed I
don't know how you guys feel about it this year,
but last year were we don't like title holders being
in the owen Hart so that eliminates like Claudio Castignoli,
Pack Wheeler, you'd uh, Daniel Garcia whatever. So and then
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of course swear Strickland already has a shot, so he
doesn't need to be in this really, I mean, I
guess he could. But who do you think? What do
we think? Who would you like to see Bill out
the owen Hart Cup bracket for the men?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Well, Tony Kahan in the past few years for these
types of tournaments has kind of followed a pretty generic structure,
like we're gonna need to imagine two guys that are
gonna lose, Like that's the easiest place to start. I'll
rip the band Aid off. I love him to death.
Mark Briscoe, well, I can see him in again, you know,
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maybe getting to win or two. Yeah, and then Brody
King I think Brodie is amazing. Yeah, either you know.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
What, as soon as you said Mark Versca, I knew
you were gonna say Brodie King. And it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Yeah, it is unfortunate because we'll get to injuries later.
But his partner's injured and now he's kind of out
there by himself doing a lot of additional work. But
I really can't think of anyone else. I mean, I'd
like to see Takeshta get involved with the Owenhart Tournament.
That would be fantastic. You know, maybe we could see
like Kyle Fletcher get involved, you know, just right, maybe Kenny, well, Kenny,
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they're going for Kenny so or are they're going for
Kenny or they're going for Max or Swerve. That's a
world championship, world world Yeah, world championship shot at all
in is on the line.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Okay, anybody else? Who? Who?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
What else?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Let's you know, let me fall over my tongue like
Mercedes mommey on a Wednesday night and uh once she
first started anymore, But uh, who else?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
I'm ahead, go ahead, Barry, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
So I'm thinking about who else to add? Shane. That
was a great perspective to think, who's who's going to
take those l's. I'm pretty certain we're going to see
Jarrett because it's the Owen Cup and he's in every
year and they need somebody to lose and you can
use him as really sympathetic up against the heel And
there you go. As far as another, I'd love to
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see Takeshta, it was somebody from the Callous family, whether
it's to Kester Fletcher. I really think they got a
good thing with loading up with the three people they
have announced. I know you guys don't like champions being
in there. I think if they're tag holders, the Trios
or tag champs, that would be good. I'd love to
see MJF and somebody from the Hurt Syndicate in there
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meeting in the first round. That could add some tention
to that feud. So I thought I was thinking a
little different from Shane's perspective, is like, who could be
a first round matchup that could further storylines And that's
kind of that's why I was thinking. You know, I'd
love to see MGF and maybe Shelton Benderman in their
MGF and lashly use this tournament instead of putting in
a couple more job guys, since all In is so
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far away, use this tournament to book your top star
main event guys in your your top star main events
for your next couple of dynamites and collisions. There's no
reason you got to rush this in a in a
month or six week period. Each show is going to
have a main event that's relating to the owen you
loaded up with top guys. It kind of books itself
from a programming perspective, and then you can flesh out
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the rest of the show with your other storylines and angles.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I'm really glad that you brought up MJF because I
think he's kind of getting a little bit forgotten in AW.
I don't know, is anybody else going to say MJF.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I thought about go ahead, no good, No, yes, I
was gonna say MJF would be fantastic, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I'm okay.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
So I'm thinking Buddy Matthews needs to be involved. And
I also want to see Dastin Rhodes. You know, I
don't want to see Jef Jared again. Dastin Rhodes knows
to put on a good match, clean match, and he's sympathetic,
Like Barry said, so Dastin rose Is might pick to
at least win one match.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
I don't want to bump out the first round, but
he has ties to owen two.
Speaker 8 (06:19):
I was going to also say Dustin Rhodes, I would
very much so like to see him in this. I
like him in general, and I think this is a
fantastic place for him to showcase what he's got. So
that's my choice.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Interesting that it's it's it's interesting that nobody said guys
like Roderick Strong or Adam Cole. Although Adam Cole already
has a title shot at Dynasty, maybe it's not a
good idea to put him in there. But look, this
is Baward hart Cup isn't going to be rushed this year.
It doesn't look like it looks like it's going to
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take place over several weeks instead of just a month,
so at least I hope so so yeah, I mean
Roderick Strong, Adam Cole. Uh, you can even Kyle O'Reilly.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
What any of those interview after Dynasty Tolson, do you
know is it double or nothing?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Honestly, I don't know double or.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Nothing's coming up? And so we got Dynasty double or
nothing Forbidden Door and then ernest for one door before
or after all in.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I believe it's after all in.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
So is that I feel like we're missing one in there.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
It goes it goes dynasty double or nothing then all in.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, I mean okay, okay, yeah, basically all in and
double or all in and uh forbid door kind of
flip flopped a little bit or not in their usual
time slots put it that way or a month's later.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
I would set for the own to what you're saying
is not rush the Owen. The finals of the Owen
should be on the pay per view before all In,
and then that gives them a month to continue that
feud and into the UH and heading into all in.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Okay, Well, Shane, Well Shane, let's move on. What what
do you want to talk about here?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Well, I mean we could stick with the own, the
Owen Cup and the women. I mean we got Monette
Hater Stark's Athena, Rosa stat Lander. That's that's pretty heavy.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
We we're getting some exposition right now outside of the
Owen Cup with Money and Athena, which I'd kind of
like to see separate from the Owen Cup.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
That's my opinion.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
I think this is going to be a fantastic feud,
a great way to get these belts off of Mercedes.
So she could kind of, you know, redirect towards the
the bigger picture, the women's world scene, which we know
that's where she's headed. But you know, the own Cup
for with the women look looks pretty stacked right now.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I mean, yeah, there's six women in the cup already,
there's only two slots left.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Well, we'll probably see Willow and a wild card. And
I'm going to assume that a wild card would either
be you know, someone from the roh or the New
Japan side, or someone coming back from injury, could be
Britt Baker. You know, she's in under contract with Tony
Kah for another couple of years in spite of you know,
whatever indiscretions they might be having. You know, Barry shirt,
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it's a work, It's always a work.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
So yeah, well, well, well well placed advertising today, thank you.
So I don't know, I think this women's the women's
own couple looks fantastic right now. Then it's hard to
call the ball.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Oh Barry, let me ask you, what about the ragining
owen Hart Cup winner. Do you think she enters it,
and that, of course is Mariah May.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
You know, does that we want to hold off on
that segue into the next segment, though, I'd love to
see Mariah in there.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
And if we're going to talk about previous champs, isn't
Willow a previous champ?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
To Willow is a previous champ. Baker is a previous champ.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (10:12):
I think that's it, right.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I think, yeah, Britt Britt, Britt and Adam Cole won
the first one, and then it was uh uh Ricky
Starks and Willow and then it was Mariah May and
uh who won it last year?
Speaker 6 (10:37):
I thought, who did win the men's last year? Yeah,
So if we're looking for a different a couple extra entrants,
I'd like to see Julia Harden there. They don't have
her in a program developed with anybody right now, So
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get her in there. And you know, if we're gonna
grab somebody out of left field something, we have an
answer tam With the men's I'd like them to pull
somebody from another promotion. If we're talking about somebody who'd
taken out bringing in New Japan or CMML personality. So
with the men and then with the women Stardom CMML
as well works. Uh, you know, bring in some talent
from from overseas to take that out a little showcase
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in the first round.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah right, yeah, I mean it won't be Mina shira
Kala because she's a little busy right now. She's I
believe the first week of this month is when she
wraps up with with Stardom, but she's already booked for
a couple of dates. She's taking on azm or Azumi. Uh,
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pretty soon. There's I mean four rounds round. I can
stretch it out. I just don't see Mina Shirakala coming
in and taking a spot in this. I really don't
the joker position.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
And then and that's the big reveal in six weeks
or whatever when they do the next first round match
for the women.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, if they do that, it's going to be down
the road. It really will be. Anybody else have any
ideas about the two women that should fill in the
spot that's open.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
I would like to see Palazzo in it. I'd like
to see her do some more. I think she's really good.
And yeah, I'd like to see her out there some more.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, I mean, look, when you're talking about aw's women's division,
and we're going to get into like an injury report
in just a little bit. But with the women that
are there right now, in the last three AW shows
that aired on the regular timeslot, not counting the Collisions,
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the Slam Dug Collisions that had that aired at eleven o'clock,
but the last two Dynamites and the last Collision were
all main evented by women. Megan Baine, as a matter
of fact, made event at the last two Dynamites that
has not been done by a woman since twenty twenty
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three when a Carusheeda took on and beat Tony Storm
in the main event of Dynamite. I believe it was
in August of twenty twenty three, and then the next
week she took on Anna j in the main event
of Dynamite. So the Karlsheda and Megan Bain, there's some
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history for you there.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Well, I mean, if we're sticking with the men, I
know you had something to say about this, but like,
the women are getting a lot of airtime, especially in
the main event arena and the AW standard shows.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah. Absolutely. Do you think does anybody think that this
point blank that revolution there has been an argument that
Tony Storm and Mariah May should have or could have
made event to that, do you think that Dynasty or
even Double or nothing has a possibility of a women's
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made event or even all in.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Love to see it. I would love to see it, honestly.
And it's great that they're getting, you know, the headline
on the standard shows. It's great they're getting more representation.
But I want, I do believe that they deserve It's
not a deserving thing. They're entitled to a main event
for pay per view. Tony Storm's feud with Mariah May
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was probably the most interesting thing going on in professional
wrestling for five and a half months. That could have
easily headlined that show and kept asses in seats the
entire time.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Jane, that was sixteen months that story went on. Sure,
there was a long break with Tony Storm, wasn't there,
but that was part of the story as well. But
it was sixteen months from beginning to end.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I mean every single turn, every single you know, like
every single surprise it kept. It was very fresh, and
yeah that if they're going to keep the women's division
like pumping like this, I could see it happening. It
should happen. I don't think it's happening soon, though.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Anybody else think that the women are going to makee
event the pay per view anytime soon? I do. Shane doesn't,
even though he would like to see it, he doesn't
think it's going to happen. I do think it's going
to happen.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
I think they can. I don't think there's anything right
now that justifies it. The chance was the Mariah made
Tony Storm blow off like that was that was the
time to do it, and it just didn't line up
with what they were looking to do. But if they
were going to main event, that was it. And it's
not the women's fault. They're just not given as much
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stuff to work with. So there's only two, maybe three
storylines at a time as opposed to six or seven
with the men now right now, if you're looking at them,
you have to start a build for that to justify
it in a couple months. I mean, they're capable of it.
I don't think anybody can sit here objectively and argue
that Tony Storm versus Mariah may wouldn't have been a
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draw for a main event like it was, Like Shane said,
and Kelson mentioned, some of the best content in storylines,
in acting really for professional wrestling in a long long time,
like nothing had been done like that. I think we
saw a complete character transformation of character work on parallel
so far, but that's an outlier, like that's exceptional. There
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isn't enough consistency yet to give them that. And I
think the last couple of weeks I've been trial runs,
what sort of draw are the ladies. It's not been
like Rando Women main eventing. It's been the Top women
main eventing. The biggest story they got going is the
Tony Storm rhyme for making bain things. So like they're
keeping the main people in there and see how they draw,
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and it's been mixed. Some's been good, some's been bad,
but you're not going to know those until you try.
And the other thing to keep in mind is their
main eventing. Are they giving them enough juice to pulling
ratings for that or is it just seemed thrown together?
So I think we're going to see them experiment a
little more and if they get something going that's really hot, yeah,
no reason they can't Maine event just like any other storyline.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
So I can see the only one I could see
main eventing would be double or nothing, and that would
be if they could figure out how to do Mercedes
versus Athena. Either all want it to be great bad. I
don't see all In doing it, but double or nothing.
I can see that storyline happening, and if they can
juice it up well enough.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Well, okay, you know that Athena is from yeah, Texas, Texas,
so yeah, I mean right right there in the backyard,
So that would make a little bit of sense happened
Athena e mer Sades at all In in Texas. I
just think that's a little bit too long of a
build for for that, Matt, But I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Know, I mean, especially especially lately with how they kind
of been dragging out some of the other storylines that
are in play. Yeah, I think all like waiting for
Texas is a very long time.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
I don't know they've done it before, but you know
they're trying to hype up Ocado versus Kenny for all Into, So.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
I mean, you never know what could happen, but I
could see it.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
I think they should hold off to Allan. I think
they should slow roll this. I think they should slow
roll this and they should just tease it, have them
have wars of words or war words as they dance
around the edges, like I'm saying, and then have them
in something at a pay per view. But slow roll
this because somebody else at the moment is all in.
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If you were going to establish somebody as a new star,
there's two ways to do it. They're going to win
the big title or they're going to win the TVs title.
A win over Mercedes Monnett arguably can establish somebody stronger
than a win over Tarney Storm for the belt right now,
that's debatable. But you've got two very very strong champions
right now in the women's division, and these are opportunities
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to make a new star. And if you're going to
do that, you do that at the biggest event possible.
And that's all in. So if she's going to be
the go forward in the TBS division Athena, you do
it on the biggest stage possible in her hometown to
make that as big a deal as possible. Otherwise it's
a wasted opportunity in my view. I'm with MK on that.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well, here's another thing that you'd need to consider as well.
I brought this up earlier Azuomi and Mina Shirikala at
Resurgence later this month. I believe are sling to become
the number one contender for the n jp W Strong
Women's title. Uh. The winner of that that could be
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a match for Mercedes at double or nothing right.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
There, I can see.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Okay, So here's my thing. I think Athena is somehow
going to lose her title, and Mercedes will lose one
of her titles, thus fueling the fire. They'll cause each
other to loon or something, and then they'll face it
all in.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
That's what I would like to see.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I don't think that Athena is going to lose that
I ever lose that title. They've made too much of
a big deal out of the forever champion. I think
that they're going to have her vacated like somebod with
Joe vacated his and go from there.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
See I hate that myself.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
But what's the other She's got two belts? Though, what's
the other promotion she has it from?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Who?
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Two belts? The spinner back?
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And then?
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Or is it just okay? I thought she had an
Indie belt, So in my bed, no you can.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
We're gonna I'm gonna check that. I did want to
make a point, Barry kind of piggyback off of what
you said. As much as I hate the idea of
them dragging it to Texas, it is an opportunity for
them to do some fun stuff behind the scenes, Like,
you know, we could put the minions to work, have
some story that way, and we're getting you know, people
(21:22):
getting are getting attacked behind state, behind the scenes. You know,
there's they could drag it out and have it be
fun and kind of make sure the women.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
And Shane don't forget that. On Collision, we saw the
seed planted of the Renegades joining with Mercedes bone H.
Robin Renegade of course was there. Charlotte Renegade has been injured,
but it looks like she may be able to come
back soon. And she's been cutting hair. She's been she's
(21:56):
that's what she's been doing in her time off. And
but she did make a comment about Robin at Collision
and how psych she was, So that was interesting. Speaking
of injured wrestlers, Shane like Charlotte Renegade.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, so I'm gonna run down who we got out right,
like the official aw, this is what they've given to
the media their list of talent that's out and I'll
try to be as fast as possible. So we have
Red Velvet with an unknown injury back in January. Buddy
Matthews has an ankle injury that he sustained Grand Slam.
Juice Robinson the broken fabia on collision. Back in November,
(22:40):
kill Switch had like serious long term pneumonia. They thought
he was going to die. He's just kinda he says
he's ready. No, there's no story, but there are conflicting
stories about him coming back because of long term implications
of his respiratory stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Nick Comarado has a hip injury.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Skyblue has been out since July twenty two, twenty four,
just went under underwent.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Surgery and.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
She provided an update and said that she's not cleared yet.
Dalton Castle has an unknown injury that he sustained in
collision and he's going to be out until the middle
of this year. Rehost fractured arm. She's going to be
out for another six months. Matt saidel's a broken right
foot that he's currently in rehab for. Trent Burrett is
an active from a spine injury that he had surgery
(23:25):
on that he's doing PT for Eddie Kingston with his
torn ACL and his meniscus back in May, which he's
currently in PT for very public about his recovery, so
I could see Eddie coming back sooner than later. The
Blader had ruptured discs in his spine spinal fusion, says
surgery was scheduled for this year, or teases out with
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a torn peck that he sustained in January twenty twenty four.
But I've seen that he's scheduled for indie shows coming
up here soon, so I think they're just not using
him in AW And then Keith Lee s has long
term COVID, but he's been hanging out backstage since February,
so he could be back anytime. And Uh, that's the
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injury report. That's everybody.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Wow, Yeah, that is quite a roster of wrestlers that
are injured.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
I'm sorry that we haven't done the injury report. No
a red hot second Colson. I think it was a
couple of months the last one, so.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I can't remember the last time we did one.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, we used to do them all the time, so
any I will, let's move to the panel. You know
who you guys pumped to see him back. I got
I'm all for a Dalton Castle.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
That just me. The Keith Lee is amazing as well.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I think Keithley has world champion written all over him
with if I think if Swerve holds, then Keig Lee
coming back will look fantastic.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
I yeah, I want to see Dalton Castle come back,
and I want to see him working with Megan Bain.
I want to see him. I want to see him
be Megan Bane's employee. I think that would be great.
I think I think he has the charisma and the
character to pull it off. I'm bummed the Boys aren't
there anymore due to whatever happened with that. You can
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get some new ones or whatever. But like Dalton Castle's
stick where they are doing it and worshiping Megan Bane,
I think that would be amazing. Especially if she jobs
out of the pay per view. That's the next piece
to keep her fresh on TV. He's down a little bit,
Dalton Castle picks her back up.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Work outrunners being the Boys brought a consistent basis there
for a while before Dalton got injured.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Yes, I think the.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Boys are now, Aw's dooint the clown. We don't know
who's going to be.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
They're a lottery backstage.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
They should have a few people be the boys, like
alternate them every so often every week. It is some
kind of gimmick, some kind of joke. Yeah, I mean,
just anybody, anybody come out as as a boy.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I would love to see age character come out as yeah, exactly,
just disgusted.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
Yeah, it would be great.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
I think.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
To get on his hands and knees so that can
climb up in there.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
That his doing that.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Oh God, take my money now.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
I think Max Pastor would be good as one of
the boys arguing about who's better, who looks better?
Speaker 6 (26:46):
You know, Max. I think Max would be really good
at that.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Yeah, speaking of Max, anybody else Fantasy book Max's open
challenge at all in being on Cold?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Oh no, I keep hearing that it's the most preposterous thing.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Well, I mean it's a hilarious It would it would.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Make sense just literally Stone Cold wouldn't have to wrestle.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Right, he's in Austin. It would be a huge pop.
I mean, obviously it's not gonna happen, but I mean
the logistics and the storytelling workout. Max Caster's open challenge,
the glass hits whatever generic rip off of his team.
He comes out kicks and using the sunner, leaves a
million dollars pay day. Everybody loses their mind. I mean
for a moment, never gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, they'd have to call him stunning Steve Austin instead
of Stone. I'm just saying.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
So, I want Keith Lee to come back, but I
want him to be worked back up at Dynasty.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
He didn't need to back up.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
And I really think that those two compared to they
have history, know if they ever made up or not,
but uh, you know, he don't need to back up
to beat John Moxley with all the interference, and I
think big big Hole himself, Keith.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Lee would would be a great fit for that.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
What what's the other side of that coin, is Keith
Lee coming back and like partnering back up with sort
of Strickland joining the embassy. That could be fun. Yeah,
I mean, look, hey, we were homies. Men pug it out,
you know, time time heals all.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, I am one with you on the men's side,
Keith Lee. Don't get me wrong. I want all the
wrestlers that are injured to come back healthy and able
to wrestle. Wrestle by the way. I love Eddie Kingston,
but on the women's side and on the women's side
sky Blue, I mean just having her back with Julia
(28:59):
Hart or even and Leenomanada, if that's the way they
want to go. Uh, it's she's she's just she's a
work course, she's wanted a workhourses of aw they need her.
She always puts on a good show and she's popular.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
So she was really humbling before she got her.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Knew, Yeah, she was coming into her own.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I do believe she was on track to get a
title belt. I think she may have gotten the TBS
title if Mercedes Moda didn't come along and ruined that.
But hey, but Shane, you had something else you wanted
to talk about.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I'm looking at free agency, and you know, obviously this
is a big year for free agency across the entire
you know, Professional Wrestling Platform, AWWWE, New Japan, they all
have huge contract the TNA, huge contracts on the way
(29:58):
out the door. So I mean, just to get given
an example, you know, WWE. This is aj styles final
year with WWE as far as we know right now,
and he's refused to sign anything both from the TNA
side and the WWE side, Well, how crazy would that
be to see him come over to AW after his
(30:18):
contract is up at the end of May. That'd be sweet,
That's like, that's like dream for mem so. But yeah,
what do you guys, You guys got any insight on
the whole free agency thing or who is a free
agent or who's on the back end of their contracts.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Most of who we follow, Mariah is up.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yeah, I get that with Mariah, her contract is up,
her original contract. But fightful at other places have said
that AW has options there, and AW, if they do
have options, would be incredibly stupid not check exercise those options.
(31:01):
We just don't. We just don't know.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Good on her believing on herself and doing that shorter
term contract though, because I know Tony tries to get
a lot of people over in three or five years
and she knew what she had. That's losing if Mariah jumped,
I mean, that's that's a sizeable loss, and it's I mean,
there's no way WWE wouldn't go after her. She's a
great talent and she was in one of the biggest
storylines of the year in any promotion.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
So yeah, I think that Tony is I think Tony
would put the jags on keeping Mariah May, and he'd
be stupid not to like she. She's she will be
quintessential and whatever they choose to do to elevate the
women's division within the next six months when she comes back,
there's going to be hell to pay.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Oh huge pop when she comes back.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Huge can't so or even I mean, like we didn't
consider her being in the Owen uh the Owen Hard Cup.
You know, imagine they have a wild card or a
joker and it's Mariah May. She takes it all the
way and she's up against Tony Storm.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
Again at all.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
When you're talking free agency, Shane. One of the things
that look, as you said, there are wrestlers in TNA
and New Japan and wwe don't forget Stardom that are
have contracts expiring. You also have people and of course
AW that has contract expiring. But more so what you
(32:28):
have at AW are a bunch of wrestlers that frankly
are on the absentee list. They are cleared to wrestle,
but they're just not wrestling, and why have them on
the roster. You know, we're talking about free agencies We've
(32:49):
got to talk about releases as well. I mean, look
at look, Britt Baker could be released. Why keep Britt Baker?
If somebody like a zoom for just throwing a name
out there, a ZOOMI your Starlight kid from start to
become available, why would you keep Britt Baker not even wrestling.
(33:16):
You know, I'm.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Just saying the politics behind the scenes with it.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
It's now known that there that Britt Baker was gate
keeping the locker room for the women. It's unfortunately, you know,
like like that's all out in the open, and we
didn't really see her start to kind of go down
in programming until that was kind of publicized. So I
mean with the Britt Baker thing, yeah, yeah, like do
(33:44):
we I agree with you Kelson? Just drop her if
she doesn't want to be here. See you have a
nice day and enjoy your time in NXT with all
your old friends. You know, see it in six months
when they dump you for the next round of guys
that they're gonna poach you know. Yeah right, he like
remove all like regarding a e W stuff from her
(34:06):
like Twitter, like remove all the yeah, scrubbed.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I mean, look, we aw just picked up Kevin Knight
mm hmm. You know, look, if you have wrestler that
is not wrestling and you replace that wrestler with Kevin Knight,
that's a great pickup. It's a great pickup. There's no
other way to look at it. It's a great pickup.
(34:36):
We talked about the olwen Hart. Kevin Knight's another name
you can throw in there as a participant in that.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
Yeah, doesn't know, nobody would expect them to win.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
No great way to introduce him though, and that's what
they need right now because I don't know much about him,
so it will be nice to see him have have
imagined build him up a little bit.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Yeah, I talked a little bit about this on the discord.
WWE's got clearly they've got an XT which from a
I don't even know if you can call them a
developmental territory anymore or promotion. They're almost a third brand,
if not a formal third brand. But they've got that
going there, and there's that's a direction for a lot
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of performers to work towards out on the indies, and
now with the WWID program, they've got a whole other
layer below that to kind of grow that audience that
they'll draft up from. It's a really really well developed
farm system and AAW doesn't have that. So Tony, if
you look at a lot of the hires they've been doing,
he's been really focusing on a lot of people under
(35:41):
thirty five, especially a lot of talent under thirty, having
those guys that if you lose top stars and you
start building them now in two or three years, those
are those those next top stars, and they're at an
age where you can ride those guys for ten to
fifteen years. You know, you're not bringing in You're not
bringing in somebody who's thirty five, who's got five or
six years where they can still kind of go full speed,
(36:02):
and then they start having to taper off because while
the character work and the promos of their peak, the
body really starts falling off. So he's he's really been
focusing on those hires, and I think Kevin Hurt or
not Kevin Hurt, Kevin is a good addition to that
group of guys. And you've got you know, hang Man,
You've got Swerve, You've got Osprey, you've got m JF.
(36:24):
You know, a lot of these younger top guys are
are pretty young and Uh and I think this is
a good edition of that group and growing up.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Erry, I got to disagree with you on something that
you said, and that you said or alluded to at
least that AW does not have a developmental promotion, and
I disagree with you. It's called New Japan Pro Wrestling.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
I was going to go there, Kelson, I don't want.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
To go there. I was thinking about it as a joke.
It's funny because God, honestly, God, it's the truth.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
Though I was thinking and mentioning from a developmental that
they have to pull from other promotions like CMML RevPro
and New Japan. But I decided not to as I
was saying it. But like, it's a joke, but it's
not untrue. And I think we've seen, especially for a
lot of North American and European talent, being it's a
lot easier logistically to work for AW than it is
(37:24):
New Japan. But a lot of them are very fond memories.
They like to go back and work there. It's a
fun place for a lot of them to work, So
I don't think that's a bad thing. But you know,
a lot of us have a soft spot for New
Japan and it's hard seeing some of the talent that
they spend years developing leave. But that's the way wrestling
is now, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yeah, Hey, we've seen a lot of people in AW leave,
you know with the last what year to you know,
year year and a half, though it happens. I mean,
that's why, that's the way wrestling is.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
As you said, I'd like to mention about Kevin Knight.
I've seen him in the Independence and I saw a
phenomenal match between he and Benjamin Shelton, just amazing, and
I've seen some of his work in New Japan. I
(38:18):
like him a lot. I think he's a really good
addition to AW. I also think that what's his name,
Blake who.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Wrestled Kenny Christian.
Speaker 8 (38:31):
I think that he's really good and there's a lot
of potential there. So I would agree with the younger
guys coming in and being the next top stars. I
can see it with at least those two wrestlers right there.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
I'd also like to say I'm an idiot because AW
does have a development or territory. It's called Ring of Honor,
and it's literally their developmental promotion, and it just right
out of my head. So it popped that.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
In my head.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
I'm like, how did I forget about Ring of Honor?
I'm an idiot? So thank you Nett for inadvertently reminding me.
I'm an idiot.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
You know what, though, I didn't even think about it
because I honestly don't consider Ring of Honor development will
watch it.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
Yeah, I just don't see it.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
That's why I think it's its own entity and it's
got the history and I if you watch a Ring
of Honor, it's a damn good show. It's it's meaningful.
I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
It is what it is.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I mean like when I think about Ring of Honor,
I think about like twenty fourteen through seventeen, like when
the Ring of Honor boom was like a really big thing,
you know, Tony Kahan putting his hands on that product
kind of Tony conified it.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
It's more of just like died aw. I love Ring
of Honor. Yeah good, I'm just saying, you know, like
that is what it is, so still love it. Yeah,
I couldn't.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
Flavor give it its own flavor. Just let somebody else
book it.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, like Scott da More, Gail Can.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
All of the well.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
Speaking of hiring a free agency that you didn't mention that.
I really really hope, especially since we've talked about the
women's division so much, that AW has at least talked
with Gail Kim from like what she did with the
women in TNA over the years. I think she would
be She's she's as great a backstage hire, assuming she's
a professional. I don't I've never heard anything other than
(40:21):
everybody loves working with her. She'd be a surefire thing
for backstage possible.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
You know, you know Barry in this podcast we were
talking about the women's division, and in the early days
of this podcast, and there was a time on this
podcast where TNA was the women's division, the women's division.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah, you know, Gail Kim.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
What she's known for in the industry being able to
confidently tell people know why and why it's going to
benefit them, and she has a very high success right
in that, which is I think is something that Tony
Kahan needs, especially in the women's division. Someone that's going
to come in and say, hey, I know this better
than you do. No, this is a stupid idea. Let's
(41:10):
do it this.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Way and two matches every show, let me run it
so Basically, what you're saying is, if Gail Came is
hired by a W Britt Baker is absolutely out.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
I would I would, dud.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
Do we know that Britt isn't just deciding maybe to
retire dude to her thing and just focus on being
a dentist here in Orlando? Like do we know that?
Are we certain.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
It could be?
Speaker 6 (41:37):
I mean, because if she was to sign with w W,
she couldn't be a dentist anymore. The schedule is too tough,
and I don't know if she wants to give that up.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
I don't know. Well, I will have to give her
a call. I'll give her a call after the podcast.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Is it like it's aebrity dentist things like a celebrity therapist.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
We're going to be Baker.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
It's in winter Park back in the day. Yeah, she'd
ever belts for her any promotions and stuff. But I
don't think they do new clients anymore. It's all just
for existing ones. I have a friend of mine who
goes to the dentist, but he sees the one of
the guys that's there.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yeah. I wanted to bring up some news that came
out a couple of days ago. I think it was
actually yesterday morning that it came out. BJ Bethel, how
do you put out? Is it s scoops or SE scoops?
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Guys that are to go scoops?
Speaker 3 (42:37):
It's see scoops. Uh. He said that on average, since
aw went to Max, on average here the first twenty
four hours after show airs, meaning either live or within
a twenty four hour period, it's averaging five hundred k
viewers a week. That's an average of five hundred k
(42:57):
viewers a week. So sometimes it's more and sometimes it's less,
which means that the average Dynamite from this year is
getting one million to one point two million viewers a week,
which is really good. Now fightful select Sean ross Sapp
made a post that has got about six thousand votes.
(43:19):
The last time I looked, asking, uh, well, I hate
bringing this up like this, asking if you watch there
was three options. Do you watch Dynamite on TBS, do
you watch Dynamite on Max? Or do you pirate the shit?
Basically is what he asked. Oh wow, by far more
(43:42):
people watch Dynamite on Max. Forty six percent said they
watched it on Max. I can't remember the percentages, but
there's a pretty disturbingly high amount of people who said
that they pirated it.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
So well, the count Triller I used to I used
to uh pirate it.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
So you don't want to admit that on the podcast. Man,
they're gonna come in a.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Cut that I don't know if.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
You irating, if you're using a formal app to view it,
maybe you were a little shady and how you signed
up for it, But I mean it's through a formal
official channel, So I don't know if i'd say that's pirty.
Speaker 7 (44:28):
Maybe maybe Well, when when you cut the cord and
they don't have other options, you have to be sneaky,
so creative.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
Yeah, I mean, like it's still you know, guarantees take
it at tadense t shirts ails. You know you're it's
still giving product exposure, so which is a great thing
for a w I mean like they've they've doubled their
demographic for viewership just by getting over to max.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
They're going to continue to grow.
Speaker 6 (45:00):
I listened to Wrestling Observer talked about this last night
Alvarez and Meltzer, and then Alvares talked about it on
The Wrestling Observer Live a little bit today, kind of
breaking down how streamers and Netflix does this too, so
they kind of talked about them together on how the
average viewer number is a calculated thing based on a
certain number of minutes divided by certain number subscribers and
(45:22):
this weird thing. So it doesn't necessarily equate to five
hundred thousand actual people, but all of the viewing of
that period adds up to five hundred thousand people as
though they were sitting down and I think live they're
estimating it was around probably one hundred and twenty five
one hundred and fifty thousand additional or watching live. So
you add that on top of the other thing that
(45:44):
I want to add in here that I got over myself.
So you've got that watching live, and the ratings have
stayed pretty linear and flat, if not have come up
from the dip they had in February and not really
lose one hundred, one hundred and fifty thousand in watching
on live TV and add that to live streaming. That's
(46:04):
a that's pretty impressive. It's not WWE impressive, but they're
not in a completely different situation for AW considering their
struggles to have that, I think that's impressive, and ratings
are going to come up before attendance rises significantly, and
I think we see a little bit better attendance coming
up on some of these venues too, compared to where
they've been now. The programming has been a lot better
(46:25):
up through Revolution hasn't been the same high quality. It's
just not as much good stuff on each shows, and
I think that had something to do with it. But
there's definitely positive signs here. They're not out of the
weeds and won't be for a while another eighteen to
twenty four months at least, and because it's just the programming,
but you look at some of the fig leaves here,
there's some promising trends.
Speaker 7 (46:46):
Yeah, it really it's cool to see them get the
million voters. I think you know a lot of people
on the internet who have that goal post of well
they can't break a million a million a week, so
they're not quality, and then we have that that go.
Both will probably be moved again. But I think they
(47:06):
did a great service of allowing both cable and streaming
to be because that gets them additional stuff, where in
my opinion, WWE kind of shot themself on the foot
with only being on Netflix and kind of limited their exposure.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Well, on the topic of WWE, they're reporting viewership in
the same ballpark. But the way that Netflix calculates viewership
for WWE is different than how they build that metric
for Max. You know, anyone that's logged in the Netflix
could be watching WWE, and they just say that everyone
(47:45):
that's logged in is watching WWE, which I think is weird.
Speaker 6 (47:50):
Yeah, is that just for them though, Like, as far
as I know from what I've read up on it.
In friends of mine in the industry, their metrics for
streaming is just so bizarre compared to TV. I have
a friend of mine who works for an agency, and
he was just talking about how when they're pitching shows,
the way they have to talk about advertisements they can
sell on network versus when that goes to streaming and
(48:13):
how that's bundled per Like, it's just it's really weird
how they calculate it, and I mean it fits we're
stuck thinking about television. We talk about streaming services, but
they're not television. There's something different that happens to have
shows that are similar to what was on TV, and
so they crunch those numbers just really really bizarre, And
(48:36):
I think there's a definite story there to see if
when it comes to advertising for the live stuff, if
the advertisers are ever really going to believe any of
the numbers they're given. We're just dipping our toes into
live streaming for sporting events, and I include a wrestling
in that live sports, combat entertainment or whatever. It'll be
really interesting to see those trends if they do believe
(48:58):
those numbers long term. And I'm interested to see how
Netflix is going to lead that because the five hundred
pund guerrilla is WWE for live programming right now in
the non you know, n b A NFL world, and
what they do there are probably set the tone for
everything else, including AW.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
Down the line, Well, there is one thing that I
wanted to bring up, actually a couple of things about
this BJ Bethel story that he that he brought up
with the five hundred thousand average viewers. He did say that,
and I don't know if there's any truth to this
that AW is beating the NHL in viewership on a
(49:35):
consistent basis. That's they're not beating the NBA. But the
thing is is that when the when the NHL and
when the n b A is on Max. Those programs
are are advertising AW. And now MLB is on Max,
(49:57):
so not much, but they are on there, and hopefully
we'll see some advertisements for AW on the Major League
Baseball broadcast MAX. So you know that's part of it.
The other thing that he and here's the barometer of
the success at how AW is growing. This is what
I use AW right now is running smaller venues, which
(50:19):
is a great thing. It really adds to the shows.
The crowds are hotter, they're more visible, they're having a
good time. You have a good time when you see
other people having a good time. But my barometer for
aw's success, if they do get to a point of success,
is when people start complaining that they're not able to
(50:41):
get tickets to AW shows because these small venues. That's
all I wanted to say, Shane, let's go to you.
What's next? What are we gonna do next?
Speaker 1 (50:52):
We're at Poprie.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
O Perrie.
Speaker 4 (50:58):
Who's got some potpourri today? I've got that's something cute.
I'll start this one out, so I follow.
Speaker 6 (51:03):
Wait, I want to tag in on a venue thing
real quick. I thought I was unmuted. I thought I
was muted. So in two weeks. Aw's at the Masonic
Temple in Detroit, so that's where I grew up. I've
been there. It's an amazing venue. It's going to look
exceptional on television, and I'm super excited to see the
two though.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
Spec you Shane, Sorry, yeah, I know you're Florida based.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
I was like, I'm going to Tory's. See, I'll drive
it there.
Speaker 6 (51:27):
Really really cool venue. Yeah, it's gonna be great in
two weeks.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:30):
I saw pictures that's supposed to be like like Hammerstein grades,
so I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
Yeah, I pictures too, that looks awesome.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
Yeah, so all right, back to pot Pourri. Uh, I'll
star pot Pourri really just something. Usually I like to
be a jerk during these segments, but today I'm just
we're chilled today Ruby's I follow Ruby Sojo and Angelo
Parker on social media and it appears that I don't
know if they're taking steps back from AW, but they're
opening a board game shop, like a board game cafe together,
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so like a like a hobby shop. So that looks
like it's gonna be a lot of fun and good
for them. They're living there. Got the little slice of
the American dream.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
Yeah, why not. They got a family. Now what you know,
do what you gotta do. That's that's awesome.
Speaker 6 (52:15):
Where are they based?
Speaker 1 (52:18):
That is a good question.
Speaker 8 (52:21):
Indiana.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
Someone pick a song off of Indiana and the wolves
come out from I can't remember the state from Olympia.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Oh no, they're not from Indiana.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
Indiana.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
It's Indiana.
Speaker 5 (52:41):
Yes, state.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Where is it?
Speaker 3 (52:47):
Where's Indiana? I have no idea where located in Indiana?
Speaker 6 (52:52):
Indiana with in the Greater Indiana Metropolitan Area area.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
What's the capital of Indiana?
Speaker 5 (53:06):
I thought, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (53:14):
Indianapolis?
Speaker 5 (53:16):
Yeah, yeah, Indio.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
Okay, well that makes sense. Indianapolis is an Indiana. Who knew.
Speaker 6 (53:30):
Name for a city?
Speaker 5 (53:32):
Are so similar sixth graders?
Speaker 8 (53:34):
Now?
Speaker 5 (53:34):
Yes, uh.
Speaker 8 (53:37):
There's a fun fact that there is a city in
Illinois in southern Illinois called Metropolis, and the whole theme
of the city is built around Superman.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Oh yeah, there's a.
Speaker 8 (53:50):
Statue and a museum and a festival hall time.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
I've been there.
Speaker 8 (53:56):
Yeah, me too. So there's there's.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
That y'all know about Hershey, Pennsylvania, I.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
Live in Pennsylvania. Let me tell you about Pennsylvania back
back when, went back when there was the colonies you know,
people just would name towns, and I know this about Pennsylvania.
They were just named towns and they would be cheeky
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with them. I mean, Pennsylvania used to have names of
towns like Horrorsville and Sally's Crotch. You know, now.
Speaker 9 (54:37):
We still have intercourse. I mean, of course, intercourse will
never change. Yeah, but yeah, but uh yeah, uh.
Speaker 3 (54:49):
All right, moving along now that anybody else, anybody else
a w related potri.
Speaker 5 (54:59):
Us I do uh.
Speaker 7 (55:03):
I want to say, I have really something I haven't
said in a while, is I have become really interested
in Adam Cole storyline for once. I like what he's
doing with Daniel Garcia. I'm really hoping he wins at Dynasty.
He deserves the belt. If he can stay healthy, he
will be a good champion to have on there and
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boost other people.
Speaker 5 (55:26):
It's he's kind of.
Speaker 7 (55:27):
Came back from from the NJF storyline and he's in
my opinion, he's kind of doing better than m JF
right now.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
Interesting. Well, of course MGF did say something about having
the best natural tan in the business. I think that's
said something about that last week and that everybody's jealous.
During our live chat on collision shades. The vibe was
(55:58):
saying something that I found interesting was like, and I
didn't notice it, but Adam Cole is kind of filling
out a little bit. He doesn't look like a little
skinny pip squeak anymore. He looks good. He looks good.
Speaker 6 (56:11):
He didn't put on weight. He leaned out so like
his arms and stuff for the same size Kelson, but
he just leaned out his midsection. He looks he looks great.
I think whatever he's doing, he keeps it up because
he came back and he was really soft. But like
you said, Kelson, he's he's leaned out and just looks fantastic.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
Now.
Speaker 6 (56:29):
Well he seems to faster too.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
Well, he's not scared to debt to eat right anymore
because he used to live with a dentist.
Speaker 10 (56:39):
But I mean, yeah, yeah, go ahead, okay, or does
anybody else have a potpourri?
Speaker 6 (56:53):
I got appropriate, go for it. Not a w but
it is pro wrestling related. So we saw the natural
disasters are getting went into the WWE Hall of Fame.
And as I mentioned on the show a couple of
times in the night, I'm here in Orlando, and when
I was early on in my college career at UCF.
Here there was a bar and John Tenta worked the
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door occasionally. I don't know. I think he was friends
with the guy and just hung out, and every now
and then a couple of folks would get a little
unruly inside. It wasn't really a bar with fights, but
they had a bouncer guy, but he'd have to, you know,
help some people out. This one time, though, this this
dude just got an all out brawl and the bouncer
guy they had there was struggling. Tento was at the
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door and he's like, excuse me, brothers, I'll be right back,
and he got up as he's going to help this guy.
We all started chanting earthquake, earthquake, earthquake, and he just
was smiling and just he barely could get over there.
He was laughing and broke it up and came back
and sat down, and we were giving him a hard time.
But it was a fun little moment. And I probably
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saw him there at the bar five or six times,
and he was always just incredibly nice. Yes, and I
was sad to see when he passed away, but I'm
glad to see the natural disasters are going into the
hall of fame, So he's a good dude.
Speaker 3 (58:08):
Yeah, congratulations to them. I always like those guys too, yea.
You know, they're one of the guys that you couldn't
help but root for.
Speaker 6 (58:18):
No bad stories in real life about ten to either.
All the interviews, everybody loved them, even back to when
he worked in Japan doing Soon and stuff.
Speaker 3 (58:27):
Well, that's going to end Ignition for tonight. Tomorrow Night's
going to be a very interesting show. For all the talk.
We are going to do a review of AW Dynamite,
especially because they're doing the owen Hart brackets, will finally
be able to give our opinions on the full brackets
of the owen Hart and of course some of the
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matches that happened on AW Dynamite. But we're also going
to be doing a preview of AW Dynasty. Hopefully by
tomorrow Night will know pretty much the full card for
AW Dynasty, and we'll be able to give our thoughts
and predictions and all the happiness that goes with that.
You know, make total idiots of ourselves because we're never right.
(59:11):
We don't even keep a scorecard anymore because it's just
got too depressing to keep. We just talk and figure out.
But if you're interested, join us on our discord tomorrow night.
Come into the Ignition and All Lead Talk channel and
either turn on your mic and join us in the
voice or just stay in the chatroom and make your
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comments and predictions in the chat room and we'll just
have a good time. We will just have a good time.
We always do. You hear us tonight, We laugh, we
cut up, we insult each other, but it's all with
love and respect. True that. So we look forward to
tomorrow night because we get to talk to each other
(59:56):
yet again. I don't know about you guys, but Wednesday
Adapter Dynamite, we did all the talk and it seems
like three weeks went by until tonight. I don't know
what it is, but it just seemed to drag on.
I don't know if you guys feel the same way.
It just seemed like a long break. I don't know why.
(01:00:17):
But anyway, that's the show for tonight. Thanks for listening
to Ignition. This is Kelson, This is Shane. Good night, everybody,
take care, everybody, good night. Eddie kicks dead.
Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
He'll be back next week.
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