August 20, 2025 • 62 mins
Listen as the AEW Fan Hub podcast team previews this weekend's Forbidden Door! Which match should main event the show? Who will win the matches, and why? What matches could be added to Zero Hour? Plus a lot more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And nine Cognition.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Five four three two one zero, All engine running.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's Tuesday. You know what that means.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It's time for Ignition with the a W fan Hub
podcast team.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
This is Kelson.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
And it's me. It's me. It's the VI b E.
That's right, shades the vibe here. We're gonna take a
look at some of the goings on this week and
only wrestling, and we're gonna start with the big event
coming up in London at the O two this weekend,
Forbidden Door. What do you guys think should be the
main event of that show?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, that's a pretty good question because you could argue
that honestly, Tony Storm and Athena. For me, I really
think Tony Storm and Athena should be the main event.
It's about time the women got a main event. And frankly,
I don't know about the rest of you guys, but
I kind of think like Hangman and MJF is not
too much in doubt.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Logically, I'm gonna say it's gonna be the lights out match,
but I do feel like Athena versus them would be
the best.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Yeah, that sounds like logical now that I think about it.
With the lights out match going last, because like, then,
what are they going to do after the match is
over if it doesn't go last, turn the lights back
on for the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well, that's not how the lights out match works. They
don't wrestle the dark.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It didn't take you long to say something weird.
Speaker 7 (01:48):
Goodness, Oh my goodness. I'm looking forward to Athena and
Tony as well. I think that's gonna be the best
match there and it's just gonna be great. I'm so
happy to see women's wrestling.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Just top tier. Yeah kay, what are your thoughts about it?
Speaker 8 (02:11):
Honestly, if there was ever a time, I do agree
that the women should main event at some point, but
if they were ever gonna do it, it should have
been the all in match, should be get They put
them second with Mariah May and Tony Storm, like that
felt the most obvious for a main event women's main event,
But this time around, I'm going to go with the
the lights out match because, like we just said, like
you can't turn them back on again. That breaks the
(02:34):
drama for me too. That's my favorite part is like
this is now unsanctioned. When the lights turn off and
come back on, again, this is no like you know,
that kills the drama if it's not the main event.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Max, do you have any thoughts on this?
Speaker 9 (02:48):
Ill, the lights out match has to go last because
it's a big stipulation match, and it it makes the
most sense to close.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well Shades bring us home.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well, I agree that it makes the most sense for
the lights out match to go last. However, if it
were me, and because this is a forbidden Door, because
we're trying to, you know, play up the ties between
AW and New Japan Pro Wrestling, I would put Ocata
(03:27):
and Swerve in the main event because Okada is probably,
even though he is signed to AW now, he's probably
the biggest star New Japan Pro Wrestling has had in
the past twenty years and so or at least the
last fifteen years for sure, And I think that it
would it sort of would fall within the spirit of
(03:51):
what Forbidden Door is supposed to be. Now, it won't
be the main event, but I wouldn't be surprised if
it's the best match on the card.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Nizzy in the uh in the chat is saying that
she's leaning towards lights out match too, but she'd be
happy with Athena and Tony Storm.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So where are we going next here?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I have one more thing to add. Let me add
I I agree that MJF and Hangman should not be
the main event because this will not this is not
the end of their feud, so I see this as
just another step in their story. Uh, let's talk about well,
(04:40):
let's just go on. Let's go to predictions now. Actually,
we we've got the card pretty much finalized, so let's
start with the aw World Tag Team Championship. The Hurt
Syndicate takes on the winners of f We are in
Brodido and since we're doing this before the shows this week,
(05:04):
we're gonna have to sort of predict who's gonna win
between FTR and Brodido. I'll go first on that. I
think FTR is gonna win, and I think FTR will
be your new World Tag Team Champions.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I hope not.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
You know, I'm gonna say this because last week last year,
we had the same situation with FTR winning a match
to become the not winning.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
They actually had a match.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
With the acclaimed and the winner would go on to
all In. At that point, because remember all In was
in in August and the match actually went to a draw,
and so both FTR and Acclaimed made it too all
in in a three way, and I just don't want
(06:00):
to see the same thing happening again. I mean, we
did a poll on the aw fathob subreddit and it
was kind of right down the line. Broddo was the
heart pick and FTR was the head pick.
Speaker 8 (06:15):
Yeah, yeah, for sure I saw that, uh, which I
didn't even think about. Nizzi said that FTR loses due
to cope interference. I think, and I could definitely see
that happening, you know, yeah, because I really I also
just really don't want FTR to get over. I want
Brody to to make it. I want body like if anybody,
you know, I want to see Tag Team gold Lot
(06:37):
again would be uh brody, you know like I, or
a title on again would be brody like I. You know,
I don't want to see FTR make it to the
end this time, and I would prefer a cope interference.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Who's dex who has another who has their own pick? Mkay,
let's go to you.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Uh you know, I I really want some fresh blood
in there and be Brodido there's I think FTR has
their own issues. Going on, and they don't need the
titles right now, so Brodida would be great to put
it on, and it'd be a whole heck of a
lot of a good match for two big teams to
(07:16):
go after each other. And said, because really, if you
look at it, Hurstinicett hasn't faced very many big, big
guys like big and agile guys like they have with Brodido, right.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I also keep in mind also that MVP did say
an interview a couple months ago that he wanted Hurt
Syndicett to lose the titles to a younger team. Well,
FTR is definitely not the younger team, and I think
he also met by younger team is somebody that maybe
he has never done it before, you know, and let's
just get somebody new in there. And Brodido is definitely
(07:55):
a new team. Net Let's get your thoughts on this,
I guess, and that isn't with us.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Max. Do you have the thoughts on this?
Speaker 10 (08:12):
Yeah, I mean Roddo would give hurd Sin the kid.
It would be different because of course Brodido is a
bigger team. They're bigger guys than what the hurts in
the kids you've been facing as a voight, So I.
Speaker 9 (08:26):
Think it would be a good I think you would
have good chemistry, and I think it would be a
good sweeper man.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, what about you? What about you, Jess?
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Yeah, I'm going with Broddo too. I think it would
be the coolest precioust pick they could make. I don't
I know better than to put all my like to
bet on the fact that's going to happen, but I
really hope that it does.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I would like to I would like to justify my
FTR pick very quickly because I think one of the reasons,
like non k Thabe Adam Clopland came to AW is
to have a run with Christian Cage, And I think
they are going to defeat FTR and they're going to
(09:16):
retire as the World Taging Champions's that's what I believe
is gonna happen. So that's sort of why I think
they beat FTR to get those belts.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, you know, while here's my reasoning for what I said,
not FTR is because look, WWE is currently doing their
twenty twenty five Nostalgia Tour where they got forty eight
and fifty year olds going at it on the main
events of their shows. We don't need that in aaw
You could do Christian Cage and Copeland against FDR in
a non title match, and I'm non title feud if
(09:51):
you want, and it would be just as good. I
don't think you really need I agree with that, you know,
net Let's see if you can.
Speaker 11 (10:00):
Okay, Okay, good?
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Sorry, I think I lost my WiFi. I was outside
and came back in the house. I was saying that
I'd like to see Brodito win. I think that Brody
King needs some gold and I'm honestly a bit tired
of FTR in general, so I'd like to see it
(10:24):
on Brodido.
Speaker 11 (10:25):
That's my choice.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Okay, Well, we just had Steve and Sleazy join us,
so let's go to Sleazy. We're talking about who do
we think is going to win the FTR and Brodido
match go on to face hurt Syndicate in Afterbidden Door. Also,
do you think that that team would be able to
beat Hurt Syndicate because none of us have actually said
that yet.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, I think Brodnido's going to win pure leave from
Adam and Copeland interference, and as for whether or not
they could beat the Hurts and get they could go
either way because the Hurts ind get they have giant,
massive muscles. Okay, that is a really hard quality to
(11:12):
get over. But I believe that Brodido could potentially pull
off the upset of the century.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Okay, let's go to Steve and see what you think.
Speaker 12 (11:25):
I'm gonna have to say, FTR, they I think as
a tag team they work together fine, but I do
see yeah, Edge could come in and like Edge.
Speaker 13 (11:40):
Or Adam Coplan, Yeah yeah, I'm so used to saying
is w name, Like I can see him like, yeah, yeah,
they like he could like come in and like just
(12:01):
like mess with them, kind of throw them off their
game and lose that way. I can see that happening.
But I think FTR because they're just they're more mistuh
established tag team.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Just gonna throw this out here.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Let me let me throw this out here because a
lot of people didn't say what their pick was for
forbidden or do you think that the winner of the
Brodido and FTR match is going to beat the Hurt
Syndicate real quick?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yes or no? Yes? No, yep, no, yep.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
It was like like the mented choir, That's what this
sounded like.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
That just killed me. I don't know why.
Speaker 8 (12:57):
F tr FTR gets over. I hope that they don't
get over on the his Hurt syndicate. But if Bronino
gets over, obviously I would I imagine that they would
get over.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
I think I think they're trying to tease Brodido a
little bit, in my opinion, have them get close close,
kind of like they claimed where they claim should have
won because they're so over with swerving our glory or
whatever their name was with Keith Lee, but they didn't.
So maybe they dangle dangle the carrot in front of
(13:29):
us and see how we're you're act.
Speaker 11 (13:31):
I'm cool with that too.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It's Jade.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
What's sticking with the tag teams. We have the aforementioned
Adam Copeland and Christian Cage taking on I guess the
matriarchy at this point, Kip Sabian and Nick Wayne in
a grudge match, and I don't see there's any chance
(13:56):
of Copeland and Cage not winning this match.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
So I thought you were going to say something different.
I was like, wow, no, I agree with you, Shades.
There's no way that cop and Cage aren't going to
win this match. Yeah, I agree, you have a better
chance of Cage turning on Copeland than you do them
losing this match.
Speaker 11 (14:16):
Do you imagine?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
All right, I think we have a consensus on that one.
We'll go to another match that I think there's going
to be a consensus on the TBS Championship four way
with champion Mercedes Monet representing a w Persephone representing CMLL
(14:44):
Alex Windsor and do we know who is representing Stardom yet?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
No, but I will say this is that. Well, tomorrow morning,
early in the morning, Uh, the five Star will be
comple leaded the playoff and the quarter finals of the
five Star will be completed.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Eight Stardom wrestlers will.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Be eliminated by I don't know nine am Eastern time
tomorrow morning. Well, actually before that, I'm thinking after that
show tomorrow morning that Stardom may introduce who it's going
to be. I thought it would be sure. But if
it's surey, there's no reason why they couldn't announce it
(15:27):
by now, so I kind of else.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Honestly, I don't think it matters because Mercedes Money is
going to retain her title, right, no windsor not.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
I'm joking, but yeah, definitely Money is going to get away, like,
no doubt about it at this point.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, it's it's moment.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Forbid and stop the money training guys. She wears her
belts like a skirt like it's.
Speaker 14 (15:54):
Yeah, you get in the way of that that no, no, no,
no now.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
And I think we're starting to get and I think
we're gonna see this one of the I don't want
to say issues, but some of the sometimes in the past,
and I think we're singing again. With these forbidden door matchups,
the outcomes can be a little too predictable.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
And I'll say that.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
As we go to the iw GP World Championship match
two Hometown Boys champion Zach Saber Junior defending against Nigel McGuinness,
who I guess is gonna have Daniel Garcia in his corner,
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (16:36):
And as like this more so being about Danny, like
there's gonna be a bomb match, like the imagine is
gonna be great, it's gonna be another tech technical spectacle
or whatever. But yeah, he's gonna be for Danny's heel
turn and he's gonna sabotage Nigel from getting that a
iw GP.
Speaker 11 (16:54):
That's what I think.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I didn't I wasn't really thinking about a hell turn.
But God, there's no chance stead Nigel Beginners is beating
Zach Labor Junior.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Nor should he.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
No one should beat Zach.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
No, No, what should be sack?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
No, No one should be Listen, he's all that, he's amazing.
Yeah what if? Oh yeah, listen. New Japan has to
(17:33):
ride this Zach Saber train as far as it will go,
because he's really about all they've got right now, at.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Least at least in singles, uh, bullet clubs, you know,
but I don't know. It's it's something, all.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Right, all right, So we all sort of feel feel
Zach Saberg is going to take that. Yes, yes, Another
one that I think is probably not gonna be a
surprise for most we have Kyle Fletcher defending his Team
T championship against Rome with Takahashi. That's Fletcher, all right,
(18:13):
I mean it's gotta be Fletcher's.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
This is one of those matches that this is one
of those matches that if it goes twenty minutes, it's
probably fifteen minutes too long.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Mmm my good.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I don't think that of all the matches on this card,
I consider this the least competitive match by.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
Far, I think it's gonna be a great match. I'll
say that much, but I don't want to say it.
But like, it does feel like whenever an AW talent
with a belt goes against somebody who's in another company,
it feels like a Battle of the belts, but on
a pay per view, you know, because like how many
title changes have we seen on a Battle of the belts?
(18:58):
How many title changes how we see between somebody out
of the company with somebody in the company.
Speaker 11 (19:04):
Do you feel me?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah? I get you.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Well, I'm about to blow your minds then, because the
next match I want to talk about is the a
W Women's World Championship Champion Timeless Tony Storm defending her
title against Athena. And I think Athena is walking out
of forbidden doors the AW Women's World Champion.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I hope that.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
As do I think I do.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Yeah, it and it annoys mainly people said, well, she's
on such a great time and she's doing so good,
she's a women's division and stuff. Well, you know, at
some point, she's had since February and I'm kind of
wanting something different, a little more flavor to it. It's
not gonna hurt Tony Storm to lose it at all,
(19:58):
and I think it's time.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
No, definitely is not gonna hurt Tony Storm to lose
this belt. I agree with the hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
There especially.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's going to be a good match. Oh yeah, I
will say this is don't forget that.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
A few days later, Atina has to defend the a
W Women's World Championship against Mina shear Kaala.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
The ring.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah, and I kind of think that baby Mina comes
away with it. Make her the face of of uh
Ring of Honor.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
You're speaking my language?
Speaker 9 (20:51):
Has the TV title? Give her both, but.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It's an interim title, and she's not even recognized you
know in some place.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Is it's it's weird.
Speaker 13 (21:03):
Yeah, if the Theanna does lose, I means she has
a problem.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
She has a problem winning big matches, and that's not
something you want your your Ring of Honor champion to
be doing. So I don't that's my issue with.
Speaker 14 (21:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Put it this way.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
She carried Ring of Honor, she has carried that company
for multiple years.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
And she.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Did a clean job to Mercedes Monette in the Owen
Heart Tournament, which is you know, which was her first
real big opportunity to parlay all that ring of honor,
you know, Cachet into an a W major victory, and
(21:55):
you know she didn't get to do that so that
we could have Mercedes versus Tony. I personally think it
should have been Tony versus Athena all in Texas because
Athena is from Texas. But now that we didn't get that,
Now that we didn't get that and Athena did the job,
I think I don't want to say owed. I don't think.
(22:16):
I don't think anybody's owed anything. But if anyone deserves
an opportunity to win this belt at forbidden door, and
like she deserves this chance to be the champion, I
fully believe that if.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
You may deserve it, but I don't think it's gonna
happen because here's the thing nobody's even mentioned. It's the
fact that she's about to reach one thousand days on
her ro OH World title right now. You may think
that makes her more of a threat to the Women's
World Champion in aw but as Shane said before, she
did a clean job to Tony Storm. So personally, in
(22:51):
my or, no, what was her name? The other one?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Mercedes?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Mercedes, Yes, but anyway, the.
Speaker 15 (22:58):
Other one, my point stands, Yeah, GE's.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Going to do another clean job here. It's gonna be
a great match, but she's going to job and then
it'll lead into a giant storyline of.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Oh, is she going to be able to do a
thousand days or is someone finally going to take the
crown off HER's that she might be.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I think Tony's going to win.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Well.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I thought we would have some different opinions on that,
but I so we'll see. I mean, obviously, go ahead, Kelsey.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
No, I just wanted to bring something up. You know,
you have the thousand days. I don't think that's important.
She's already the longest reigning Rigabanter champion men and women combined.
She passed them over Joe's record. Another thing that people
brought up are like, this is a little bit off topic,
but go back to the other one.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Mercedes Moday.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
People are saying that they want to keep that belt
on her until she passes Jade Cargill. I don't believe
that's true either, because I think you're giving Jake Cargill.
Don't he cares about Jake Cargill In a w her
reign was not anywhere near as good as Mercedes Monday's rain.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I mean, come on, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
There can I just say we're really spoiled in the
fact that we have two reigning women's champions in a
w who have had lengthy title reigns, and both of
them have been very, very good.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Absolutely that, And like I do want to to win
because I'm tired of paying nine to ninety nine a
month to have to watch her on R O H.
Speaker 16 (24:36):
And I'm really glad that, yes you've heard it from
the AW podcast team, we're not buying the Daughter Club
anymore wins.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
But you know something, I'm happy that I don't have.
You know, I could see her on HBO, Max and
whatever platforms that they stream a dynamite on you right,
seeing her on television Billy Starks too.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, I love Billy Starks.
Speaker 11 (25:06):
I'd like to see more of her. So that's that's
a real plus there.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I think we have.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
We have two more, we have three more matches. Actually,
we have another title match, the AW Unified Championship. Kaz
Because let me try this again, Kazuka Okata defends his
title against Swerve Strickland, and as amazing as it would
(25:39):
be for Swerve to go over here, and I think
in a different time and place that can happen and
maybe will happen. I don't think it's happening at Forbidden Door.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
A well, I don't mean to swerve the conversation, but
I think Swerve's gonna take the victory here just to
kind of start the slow and eventual collapse of Kaza's
thumb and and silvered them in card Rain.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Well, No, I agree with Jay's swears not winning this,
absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
He just want match with Kenny Omega. He's not going
to turn around and lose it at the next payer view.
I just don't see that happening.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Don Callus has a lot more paintings in him, so
I think is.
Speaker 11 (26:28):
Definitely gonna win.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I can't wait to see that painting.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
See.
Speaker 11 (26:36):
I'm on the edge of my seat, so let's.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
But you're here, I am no.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
I feel like somebody somebody said, for like one of
the other championship, I think it was for the tag
match because the hurt syndicate, like it might lead to
a story later down the line. But I don't think
that's where it was going to get over this time around.
Not not in like because like uh, like Shade said earlier,
like Okada is like the face of New Japan. Even
though he's aw, he's all elite right now, Like he's
(27:10):
still kind of like associated with uh New Japan. So
like you can't really do that here in this paper
kind of thing, you know, right, all right?
Speaker 4 (27:22):
We have big Yeah, we got the big daddy the
aw Men's World Championship Hangman Adam Page defending against m JF.
And I'm torn because I think Hangman probably should win
(27:42):
and probably will win, But I kind of would like
to see the meltdown if MJFB him the belt, like
the actual meltdown in the community.
Speaker 14 (27:54):
Like what.
Speaker 8 (27:56):
If I if I see that dynamite diamond ring on
that boy finger at any point in the match and
want to get up and turn off my TV, Like
I I lose it if he like, because that's the
only way I could see him winning and getting over
Hangman is if he cheats, you know, and does the
heelish thing that he does, the sleazy MJF thing, and
he does, you know, and wams him inside the head
(28:16):
with that uh dynamite diamond ring, you know.
Speaker 11 (28:20):
But that's the only way, and I'll be pissed off
if I.
Speaker 17 (28:23):
See that this match did the did what I never
thought it would make me do, and made me call
this pay per view interesting, which I have never done before.
I'm honest to God, do not know who is going
to win.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
This is amazing.
Speaker 17 (28:40):
It may be called forbidden Door interesting, This is huge.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
This is not the match for me to Yeah, I
feel that, well, this is the least interesting match for me.
I just I don't know it's JAF lately or what
it is, but I'm not I know, hang Ma's probably
gonna win because he's not gonna go through all that
pain taking stuff with the death risings and say, oh
here you go, MJF, just take it. Why don't you didn't?
(29:06):
I don't see that happening.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah, well, look at the ninety second anniversary of CML.
MGF is going to lose the CML CMLL Championship to Mistico,
and that would be the second championship match he's lost
in the span of two weeks.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Because he's not going to win this match either.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Nope, he's not.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
No, I don't see him winning.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
The question because what happens late after I look, where
do these two go afterward? Are they going to continue
their program because I don't see MJF just letting this
go if he loses this match. I think this feud
might ultimately result in MJF becoming the champion, but just
not yet.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, the only other thing that could happen is MGF.
If he does win this, he'll lose it back to
Hangman in ten days. That they've done that before. Somebody
brought up Swerving Our Glory and the Acclaimed If you remember,
Acclaimed lost the Swerve in Our Glory and then shortly
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afterward One won it back.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
So I really hope we don't start heart hot shotting
world title like that.
Speaker 11 (30:24):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
That's a very double thing to do.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I don't like that either.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, I just don't. I think this is the wrong
time to be doing this match. I think needed a
I think it needed a bigger build.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
And I said that last week too. Yeah, and Hang Matt.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Probably would have been better, sir participating in the lights
out match.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
That's where I'd like to see him and see the
lights out match.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
I agree over there and can together about the lights
out match. We've got the Death Writers, Gabe Kid and
the Young Bucks taking on Darby Allen, Roshi Tanahashi, will Spray,
Kenny Omega and newly signed to a contract extension Coda
AbuI What I mean, how many matches did he wrestle
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on his first contract with the a W three.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
He's gonna ride that bicycle.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Should ride the bicycle down with a jow. Yeah, he'sows. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Look, the death Riders are the Heels, if you will,
let's just call them the Heels are.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Going to kill these guys. I mean, you've got a
guy that you know is basically less. You know, she.
Speaker 14 (31:45):
Has no knees, Ospray has no neck, Kenny Omega has
no abdomen, is a walking calamity, and Darby Allen, Darby
Allen might be the most physically together a person on
that team, which tells you everything you need to know.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
There's something wrong with the Face team, like every other
one was like, you know, I think that I don't
think there's I don't think there's any mystery behind who's
going to win this match. I mean it's got to
be it's got to be the Heels. The only mystery
of this is what Choliber is gonna say. As far
as how many feet I've ever removed.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, as you know, fifteen miles of Kenny Omega's and
testing was removed.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
It's like it's feet.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Remember I had a mild case of the Victor lightis
and it extended on to where he was near comatose.
Speaker 11 (33:05):
So it's just never ends.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
No, I mean, at this point, I don't know if
this whole thing was k fab or not. I really don't,
you know, It's it's weird.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I just I want to see Sperry walk down to
the ring holding his neck, and then Candy holding his stomach,
and Hashi walking bow legged and.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Wheelchair Darby Allen walking out, and just instead of hopping
into the ring, he just plants himself fa first, face
first into the ring post.
Speaker 11 (33:44):
Just for the hell off the top of the cane,
you know, Oh goodness, that man is Yeah, that's right.
No one can see anything.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Nzy says in chat. I wonder how they're going to
disrespect the bucks this time, And I'm like, I don't know,
but I tell you what I hope will eventually come
from this is I think they're teasing a breakup of
the box.
Speaker 11 (34:23):
You think so.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
That would.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Listen think I just want to throw this out here.
What is the Bucks have done everything. They've done everything.
What's the one story they've not done? A breakup?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
And if you look there is when Don Kallus approached them,
there is a picture of him hugging the Bucks and
you know Nick Jackson looking at Mac Jackson kind of
weird and Mac Jackson really embracing Don call Us. They
took the same picture with Don Kallis hugging Kyle Fletcher
(35:05):
and Will Osprey. Wow, I'll see if I can find it.
But it's it's a lot of foreshadowing.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
It's that Wow, That's that's a deep dive right there.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
You know what what I you know, what I'd like
to see is on Dynamite tomorrow from Glasgow. I'd like
to see them have like a promotion with the Bucks.
But they dead in the audio and they put subtitles
up which are clearly not what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
And I think that would just be the greatest way
to lead it to.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
The fantastic.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah, for the first adult Schwartzenegger movie, that was hysterical.
If you don't get a chance, go look at that that.
I mean, you know, Arnold Schwartzedger. I'm got the Jim
and I am, you know, he's just speaking perfect English
and I'm it's it's hysterical knowing what we know.
Speaker 9 (36:03):
Now.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Anyway, Well, now.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
That we've talked about the main card, what do you
guys think there's going to be, well what what do
you think is going to be added to zero hour
match wise? Do you think we're going to get a
zero hour like.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
What we definitely we will get.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Here's what I hope happened either on Dynamite or Collision
this week. I would love to see Tekla come out
and challenge Cosmic Angels or Empress, Nexus, Venus whomever to
a you know, triangle of madness against three of the.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Idols from stardom. I think that would be a really
good zero hour match and it.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Would be something that we sit for that and that
would be something that would get start Stardom fans in
Japanese fans invested in Forbidden Door and maybe get some
sell by byes from that as well.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
And they also have any wish list zero hour matches?
Speaker 5 (37:08):
No what.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Everybody talked to once.
Speaker 9 (37:19):
Okay, so Techwan and triangle challenging.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
It would obviously have.
Speaker 9 (37:24):
To be caused by Angels because twas the idle, the
whole idole thing in Japan. It would be funny though.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, but if it was Eres Nexus Venus, that would
mean that maybe you could get uh Mina.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Shere A Cow involved because that was her old group.
You can't even have a mish mash. You don't have
to go with just one group.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
So I mean, I just think it would be a
great match for starting fans to see and maybe do
a buy in for Forbidden Door.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
And here's a match I think they could happened.
Speaker 15 (38:00):
So Platinum Max is making his International Challenge International, right,
so he gets put on zero hour, They do the
very stupid chant that is incredibly annoying and has a
low quality T shirt and then who.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Who else comes out? But Ward Low? It's Genies. Yeah,
Wardlow could be good. I don't know.
Speaker 9 (38:30):
Oh, give me Bonzilla in the TVs title match as
the stardom representative.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Now that that wouldn't work. She's just she's too green.
She's too green. She's at the ring with veterans here.
She could should be out of place. I don't think
she could work it in terms of.
Speaker 9 (38:50):
That of the stardom representative. Then give me az M
or give me momo.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Uh it makes sense, like kid in this chat.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
I'm sorry, So is there no love for the Starlight
Kid in this chat?
Speaker 5 (39:07):
Well?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, everybody was a Startlight Kid.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
But the fact of the matter is Starlight Kids already
booked for a match at Segura. Uh right, but she's
already booked for a match that day as is That's boy. Yeah,
Starlight Kid, that's a poise Serrie, and I can't remember
there's one other from stardom.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Yeah, since it's in England. What about the Priestley?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
No, not based on what she's been doing, she's not
that she's not signed to start them, so that kind
of eliminates here right there.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
But she's had some awful matches in that five star
So I have I have another great idea for a
zero Adam match.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Jack Perry versus Griff Garrett.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Oh damn it, we're editing that.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
Who You're worse than me? Because I was gonna say
my favorite Eddie Kingston just come out and Entertainments.
Speaker 11 (40:19):
I didn't want to say it first. I didn't want to.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Max challenges to be Eddie Kingston.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Eddie Kingston comes to the rain, grabs a mic and
farts the a b c's only on Forbidden Doors zero hour.
Speaker 7 (40:40):
All right, he does chops to Platinum Max to the
beat of let's go Max, You're the best wrestler.
Speaker 8 (40:54):
In Look man, the whole heel side. That age match
already looks like a dinner bell for Kingston. Like you know,
I'm already, I feel it. I'm going to the E
c W shows.
Speaker 11 (41:07):
I'm coping. I'm excited. I feel it. It's in the air,
like it's you know, I'm excited. I hope so was.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Everybody here knows. I love Eddie Kingston.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
I just want I think he shaved that beard too.
I think he's ready.
Speaker 8 (41:25):
Yeah, he said that he's just waiting on Tony Kahn Sosa.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
Maybe maybe Tony can just itnitely, forget about him, just.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
Just just come out to Platinum Mexico. You preap what
you sow Patna?
Speaker 7 (41:55):
All right?
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Did I tell you what these nuts?
Speaker 4 (41:58):
All right, let's let's go on to pot pourri and
I'll get this started. There's some news out there, some
rumors that when his current aaw Dill is up, that
Chris Jericho might make his way back to WWE. And
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I don't want to talk about WW but here's what
I want to say. If that happens, fine, I don't.
I don't want to see anyone, you know. I get
that Jericho's character has kind of gotten a little stale,
and I get that he's maybe run his course in AW.
But let's be very very clear, Chris Jericho signing with
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this company and being its first world champion is a major,
major reason why it was able to establish a foothold.
And so I will if he leaves and goes to WWE,
I'll say happy trails that thanks for everything, Chris, and
that'll be it. Like I'm not going to trash him
on the way out the door. And so I hope
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that that is the attitude of AW fans if that happens.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah, No, I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I mean, at this point, I think Chris Jericho is
a WWE wrestler. I don't think you are a sports entertainer.
I don't think he's an AW wrestler at this point
because he hasn't been on anything for what four months,
almost almost four months now, Since I don't I.
Speaker 5 (43:32):
Don't see it as a smart move for him. But
if he wants to do it, go for it. I
don't I don't know how friendly he is with Paul
to me and Alavenders all the interviews I've seen him,
and he seems like a vinced guy. So I don't know.
I think there's more roles for him besides ring and
besides wrestling her new commentary, he could do a lot
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of stuff.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
We also don't forget about Fozzy.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
If he does sign with WWE, is he going to
be able to record a tour with you know these
how many Grammys have they won?
Speaker 4 (44:09):
None?
Speaker 9 (44:12):
No one?
Speaker 8 (44:19):
Would he still even run the cruise of Jericho if
he went to the WW Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
What Happenstan?
Speaker 4 (44:26):
They're gonna want twenty five percent of the gate on
that is what?
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Oh my god?
Speaker 8 (44:30):
He charges like thirteen dollars for you to get a
something like a handmade guitar and you get to ask
him a question or something.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
And I was like, what.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
If he wanted to leave?
Speaker 8 (44:43):
Like if anybody wants to work at another company that
isn't aw let them. You know, I'm pretty sure we're
gonna talk about that later. But with Jericho, like I
could totally see him going back home, you know, like
that was his whole gimmick too. He was the sports entertainer,
like uh, with the Jericho Appreciation Society, with the whole
Danny Garcia thing about whether or not he was a
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sports entertainer or a professional wrestler. And ADEW has made
its stance that it is professional wrestling and not sports entertainment.
So there's really absolutely no space for Jericho anymore, like
Shade said, But also like Shade said, he is integral
to the history of ADEW. He will always be the
inaugural AW World Champion and nothing can change that. You know,
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he established a lot of talents like Daddy Magic and
a cool hand ind and Danny Garcia. A lot of
cool people came out of Santana and Artiz. They were
in the Inner Circle. I loved the Cody, Uh, mister
Kay said, but yeah, Sammy, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:44):
But has to stop for Yeah, there's a lot of
Jericho slander going on and stuff. And look, he put
over Orange Cassidy when he didn't have to, because at
first he didn't understand the Van's gimmick, but he got it.
And he's done a lot for this company, whether you
like his character or not. And I think his part
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in Brawl Out help with you know, Tony didn't know
what to do. I think Jericho helped in that situation too,
So he he's great. I don't see a place in WWE.
I don't see a match where I really want him
to face anybody. So I don't know what he's going
to do over there. Maybe it's a one off. I
don't know, but at some point he deserves his flowers
(46:29):
and people need to quit billy aching about him burying people,
which he never buried anybody.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Well, I think that was what the point that Shades
made initially is that, Yeah, the only thing.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
The only thing I will say is the one thing
Chris Jericho asked people to do when he won the belt,
and I'll just say thank you, Chris Jericho. So I think, Kay,
you mentioned another talent who might want to work at
another company. Do you want to expound on that?
Speaker 8 (46:58):
Oh, my man, darn Housen. Look, I love Dan Housen,
and I understand, Well I don't. I don't understand because
it's not my business. But with the adding of the
injury time because he wants to leave, he hasn't been
booked and god knows how long, and I feel like
it might have to do.
Speaker 11 (47:18):
With, you know, merchandising. Stuff.
Speaker 8 (47:20):
Because when you look, every time they post the stats
on aw merchandise, he's usually number three and he hasn't
even been on television and god knows how long, you know,
and they're holding on to him, and he wants to leave,
and I think, let him. You know, we already had
the bs with Ray Phoenix when he's like posting about
how he's suffocating, excuse me, how he's suffocating and dying,
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and how he wants to get out of this company,
you know, like a wounded animal in the corner like that.
You know, that sucked having to watch that happen for months.
I want to want to see Dan, like Dan hous
is doing great on the indies right now. That man's
paid some of my bills, you know, because he's commissioned
me to make stuff for him. And I thought that
was really cool. Like I think he should leave. I think,
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you know, I think he should if he wants to
go and have bygones, be bygones.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Let him, you know, with that house.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
And he's done nothing really but curse people, and he's
had what two mediocre matches. But I think the biggest
thing with what you said that the takeaway is, look
at Ray Phoenix, bad mouthing a W, and AW just
kept him away from AWW as long as they can go.
Dan Houses has been bad mouthing aw.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
A.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Oh yeah, he has constantly and and we've just got
aw just getting him. Whatever did you look at somebody
like Malachi Black Alistair Black. He was very open up front.
You know, I've heard that he communicated the Tony Kahn.
He wanted his release, he got released. No arguments from
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Tony con. It's Tony con strikes me as like, if
you are respectful to not only him but the company,
he should to take care of you.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Whatever way.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
Yes, the page is another one ethan page with the
Tony Cohn said, Hey, I think I think I could
do better elsewhere, and I really want a chance to
go wrestle somewhere else and Tony kNN just said okay,
and he ended up NXT the next week.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
You know, draw of of Dan Hassen as a wrestler.
I think he's a great comedic guy. I think he
would be great at backstage or or shanigans and stuff
like that, but I don't I don't think he's it.
He's great at merchandise, He's a great I don't know.
He's just not somebody I want in AW anymore.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
Guys, here's the deal here, here is the bottom line
the deal. W WING has made it clear. They've aught,
They have stated openly that their goal is to put
a W out of business. They have engaged in you know,
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crappy business practices, contract hampering, you name it. They have
done everything they can to try to undermine AW. When
someone's pointing a gun at you, you don't hand them
another bullet. And it's unfortunate for Dan Housen that he's
in this situation. But WWE is the one who has
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created the environment where Tony Kahn has to protect his business.
WWE has done that.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Let me ask you a question. Shades Aw just recently
signed Ace Austin. Would you say, I'm gonna ask you
two questions. First question is would you say that A's
Austen is a better wrestler.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
Than Dan Housen without question?
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
The second question is how many Dan wait a minute,
how many Dan Housen's would it take the equal one
Ace Austin.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I would say probably around forty or so.
Speaker 5 (51:04):
Forty, But we don't need any David.
Speaker 4 (51:07):
No, I don't think that's the math you can look at, though.
I think you have to look at the fact that
what they're gonna do if he releases Dan Housen today,
he's gonna get signed tomorrow. They're gonna put him on nxteam,
which is probably the one play. Like we talk about
we make fun of Mariah may Slash, Blake Monroe and
all these other people getting relegated to NXT, NXT is
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actually a place where Dan Housen can thrive. I think
that could be a really great spot for him. And
if that happens, it's gonna be They're gonna stick it
to aw every week. It's gonna be some tongue in
cheek comment, it's gonna be everything they can and that's
going to happen anyway, unfortunately. But you just can't. I
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think it's bad. It's a bad precedent to set number one,
when a guy's bad mouth in your company, to give
him what he wants. And number two, like, you can't
be the nice guy in an environment where nobody else
is the nice guy or you're gonna get walked all over.
And that WWE. If WWE was a more reasonable business
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entity and just focused on its own stuff and didn't
try to undermine AW encounter program and do all these
things to like explicitly put it out of business. Then yeah,
things might be different, you know, but they're not so.
Tony Kahn first and foremost has a business to protect.
How many people does he employ? How many you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (52:33):
He can't.
Speaker 4 (52:34):
He can't just think about what's best for Dan Housen.
He's got to think about what's best for all the
restorers who are on his roster, all of the people
who work in production, all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
Well, I'm just saying is that if somebody like Dan
Housen went to WW tomorrow, I don't think it would
in any way, shape or form hurt AW, other than
maybe in the merchandising.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
But let me say this.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Of the last eight signees in twenty twenty five that
AAW has gotten, none of them have ever wrestled in WWE.
That's important. The other thing is that they're considerably younger
and more experienced than what ww's Look, this is what
I'm saying, you know, on the AAW side, Look five
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seven years from now. I think I said this last week.
Guys like FTR Adam Copeland, maybe Christian Cage, Kenny Omega
and others are not going to be with a w anymore.
But they've got guys like swer Strickland and hang Met,
Adam Page and will Osbry and Kyle fletcherd It can
step up and take those spots, no problem right now.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Right now, they could do that.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
The problem is is that, I mean, look at what's
going on with the WWE's supposed matchup for August twentieth,
John Cena and Brock Lesner. That's two forty eight year
old men that are part timers that are in the
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main event. You know, this is what I'm saying. AW
is going younger, but not just younger as far as
developmental talent. They're going younger with experience and even their
developmental talent that they had in the AAW dark days.
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You're getting along with these people that actually have experience.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
Now.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
You know, you could look especially in the women's division
Sky Blue, Julia Hart, you know some people like that.
They're talking about people that have experience and WWE. If
you look at the ed XT roster, they have some
young people on NXT roster that I've never heard of
and can't Remember if I've ever heard of mat even
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having a match, you know, I mean a legitimate match,
not a squash, but a legitimate match.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
See, this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
AW needs to keep on doing what they're doing right now,
building and developing the younger talent and giving them ample experience,
not just squash matches.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
And that's what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
And five seven years from now, like I said, when
these AW wrestlers are no longer going to be with
the company like FDR and Kenny Omega and Adam Copeland
and then you know whatnot.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
You have experienced backups that can pick it up.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
And they're doing it now, So why can't they do
it five seven years from now? They're going to be
in their prime. You see what I'm saying. So you
know that's the thing. It's a revolving door. I think
I said this last week. The report was is that
basically the average WWE viewer is ten years older than
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the average AW viewer. Why is that because they grew
up watching these same guys that are in WWE. And
I jokingly mentioned the WWE twenty twenty five nostalgia Tour,
meaning that they've gotten all these older wrestlers wrestling in
main events all over the place. You know, seem punk,
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you know whatever. I mean, they're not young bucks anymore.
Part of the pun and a at A w to
put on these matches with younger guys Hagman, Adam Page
and MJF. Come on, I mean, look at that. Those
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those are younger guys that five from seven years five
to seven years from now are still going to be
in their prime.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (56:46):
I agree the Aws positioned better right now than probably
they have been hit. And I agree that their future
is bright. And I think one of the reasons they
are that way is because Tony has been really smart
with how he's running his business.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
And so.
Speaker 4 (57:02):
I think if Tony feels that he needs to keep
a contract going, if that, like, I trust his ability
to manage his business. Let me put it that way.
Speaker 3 (57:13):
Yeah, I want to I want to come up with
my potpourri. It's just not really a discussion topic. It's
really just a comment. It just wanted to say congratulations
to Naomi and Jimmy Usol because they just announced that
they are expecting their first child together.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
I think it's great.
Speaker 3 (57:29):
I'm really I'm Naomi and I'm really happy that Naomi's
quote unquote injury that kept her from being cleared is
not something serious but something amazing.
Speaker 5 (57:45):
I think you called it actually when it first happened,
you were thinking pregnancy.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
Well, I know that she had said that she wanted
to start a family, and there were some there were
some is ses. I don't want to get into it
because it's none of my damn business in door hours,
but there were some issues preventing her from starting that family,
and obviously that has been rectified. And I just really
hope that have a beautiful baby boy or baby girl
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and have a happy family together.
Speaker 1 (58:20):
Put it that way. I had anybody else with the puffery,
go ahead, I have one.
Speaker 11 (58:28):
I got to.
Speaker 5 (58:29):
I watched clips of Triple Mania, and I'm gonna say
something I don't say about w about the stuff it was.
It was very good, and WWE made Lucha Leebray a
little bit more relevant and a lot of goofy stuff
and fun stuff. But on the flip side of that,
I don't want to hear any more WWE fans complaining
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about Orange Cassidy or the flippity floppity things that we
do anymore, because yeah, I really enjoyed it. You know,
even at Iguana and the Puppet and Microman and all
that stuff. It was fun and wrestling is supposed to
be fun. If you get to stick out of your
rear ends, you'll you'll enjoy wrestling.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
Yeah, I mean, I don't have a problem with it
at all, you know, and it's it's a shame. And
I will say this as somebody and that runs and
Steve and Shades could probably back me up on this
because we're moderators on the aw Fantom subreddit, and I
know that Steve is a moderator at other subredits, including
Greatness of Wrestling. A lot of the comments that are
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made about flippity flippity stuff and negative tribalistic stuff on
all subreddits that I see. Third, for people who are
not members of the subreddit, it just shows up on
their feed. They take an opportunity to make a comment.
I know that when I look at some of the
people to make these tribalistic comments, it's literally like their
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first and second can comment that they've made on whatever
subreddit they're on, you know, and a lot of them
don't even make comments on wrestling subreddits.
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
So it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Pay attention to the people that you know are watching
the product, don't pay attention to people, or are just
trying to get under your skin.
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
The one thing I'll say about Triplemania, I think we
could have done with up the thick Taurus.
Speaker 9 (01:00:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
I wonder if that's a friend of Beast Bortos, because
he's been jokingly like saying, you know, I'm a lawyer
and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
I hope, I hope it's a tongue. I hope that
they're everybody's cool with it. I just you know, but
I guess for a company that literally toted a casket
out of a ring and resurrected La Parca from it
the year, you can't. I guess everything's on the table.
Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Is anybody else?
Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
All right, then, well we'll be back tomorrow night, right
after Dynamite to do our aw fan Hub Dynamite review.
We're gonna do it a little bit differently tomorrow night.
We're gonna try to do three matches and then we're
gonna do a pote piri where everybody can bring up
something about the other matches and segments or whatever. So
(01:01:37):
we're gonna pick the three biggest ones. So we're gonna
try to limit the time on it and make it
just more enjoyable to the podcasters and for all the
people that are listening as well. So again, thank you
for listening. Thank you to everybody on the podcast team
to show it up tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
This was fun.
Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Tell us of the comments, whether you agree with the
podcast team's picks and thoughts and their crazy comments. Uh
that we're made tonight and we will see you tomorrow night.
So for the a W Fan podcast team, what did
I just say there? The postcast team, Yeah, uh, this
is Kelson.
Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
And this is Uh and this is Shades the Vibe.
Good night Eddie Kingston.
Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Good night Eddie kings Did.
Speaker 11 (01:02:26):
Good night Eddie.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
We love you. Yeah,
And nine Cognition.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Five four three two one zero, All engine running.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's Tuesday. You know what that means.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It's time for Ignition with the a W fan Hub
podcast team.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
This is Kelson.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
And it's me. It's me. It's the VI b E.
That's right, shades the vibe here. We're gonna take a
look at some of the goings on this week and
only wrestling, and we're gonna start with the big event
coming up in London at the O two this weekend,
Forbidden Door. What do you guys think should be the
main event of that show?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, that's a pretty good question because you could argue
that honestly, Tony Storm and Athena. For me, I really
think Tony Storm and Athena should be the main event.
It's about time the women got a main event. And frankly,
I don't know about the rest of you guys, but
I kind of think like Hangman and MJF is not
too much in doubt.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Logically, I'm gonna say it's gonna be the lights out match,
but I do feel like Athena versus them would be
the best.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Yeah, that sounds like logical now that I think about it.
With the lights out match going last, because like, then,
what are they going to do after the match is
over if it doesn't go last, turn the lights back
on for the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well, that's not how the lights out match works. They
don't wrestle the dark.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It didn't take you long to say something weird.
Speaker 7 (01:48):
Goodness, Oh my goodness. I'm looking forward to Athena and
Tony as well. I think that's gonna be the best
match there and it's just gonna be great. I'm so
happy to see women's wrestling.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Just top tier. Yeah kay, what are your thoughts about it?
Speaker 8 (02:11):
Honestly, if there was ever a time, I do agree
that the women should main event at some point, but
if they were ever gonna do it, it should have
been the all in match, should be get They put
them second with Mariah May and Tony Storm, like that
felt the most obvious for a main event women's main event,
But this time around, I'm going to go with the
the lights out match because, like we just said, like
you can't turn them back on again. That breaks the
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drama for me too. That's my favorite part is like
this is now unsanctioned. When the lights turn off and
come back on, again, this is no like you know,
that kills the drama if it's not the main event.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Max, do you have any thoughts on this?
Speaker 9 (02:48):
Ill, the lights out match has to go last because
it's a big stipulation match, and it it makes the
most sense to close.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well Shades bring us home.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well, I agree that it makes the most sense for
the lights out match to go last. However, if it
were me, and because this is a forbidden Door, because
we're trying to, you know, play up the ties between
AW and New Japan Pro Wrestling, I would put Ocata
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and Swerve in the main event because Okada is probably,
even though he is signed to AW now, he's probably
the biggest star New Japan Pro Wrestling has had in
the past twenty years and so or at least the
last fifteen years for sure, And I think that it
would it sort of would fall within the spirit of
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what Forbidden Door is supposed to be. Now, it won't
be the main event, but I wouldn't be surprised if
it's the best match on the card.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Nizzy in the uh in the chat is saying that
she's leaning towards lights out match too, but she'd be
happy with Athena and Tony Storm.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So where are we going next here?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I have one more thing to add. Let me add
I I agree that MJF and Hangman should not be
the main event because this will not this is not
the end of their feud, so I see this as
just another step in their story. Uh, let's talk about well,
(04:40):
let's just go on. Let's go to predictions now. Actually,
we we've got the card pretty much finalized, so let's
start with the aw World Tag Team Championship. The Hurt
Syndicate takes on the winners of f We are in
Brodido and since we're doing this before the shows this week,
(05:04):
we're gonna have to sort of predict who's gonna win
between FTR and Brodido. I'll go first on that. I
think FTR is gonna win, and I think FTR will
be your new World Tag Team Champions.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I hope not.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
You know, I'm gonna say this because last week last year,
we had the same situation with FTR winning a match
to become the not winning.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
They actually had a match.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
With the acclaimed and the winner would go on to
all In. At that point, because remember all In was
in in August and the match actually went to a draw,
and so both FTR and Acclaimed made it too all
in in a three way, and I just don't want
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to see the same thing happening again. I mean, we
did a poll on the aw fathob subreddit and it
was kind of right down the line. Broddo was the
heart pick and FTR was the head pick.
Speaker 8 (06:15):
Yeah, yeah, for sure I saw that, uh, which I
didn't even think about. Nizzi said that FTR loses due
to cope interference. I think, and I could definitely see
that happening, you know, yeah, because I really I also
just really don't want FTR to get over. I want
Brody to to make it. I want body like if anybody,
you know, I want to see Tag Team gold Lot
(06:37):
again would be uh brody, you know like I, or
a title on again would be brody like I. You know,
I don't want to see FTR make it to the
end this time, and I would prefer a cope interference.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Who's dex who has another who has their own pick? Mkay,
let's go to you.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Uh you know, I I really want some fresh blood
in there and be Brodido there's I think FTR has
their own issues. Going on, and they don't need the
titles right now, so Brodida would be great to put
it on, and it'd be a whole heck of a
lot of a good match for two big teams to
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go after each other. And said, because really, if you
look at it, Hurstinicett hasn't faced very many big, big
guys like big and agile guys like they have with Brodido, right.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I also keep in mind also that MVP did say
an interview a couple months ago that he wanted Hurt
Syndicett to lose the titles to a younger team. Well,
FTR is definitely not the younger team, and I think
he also met by younger team is somebody that maybe
he has never done it before, you know, and let's
just get somebody new in there. And Brodido is definitely
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a new team. Net Let's get your thoughts on this,
I guess, and that isn't with us.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Max. Do you have the thoughts on this?
Speaker 10 (08:12):
Yeah, I mean Roddo would give hurd Sin the kid.
It would be different because of course Brodido is a
bigger team. They're bigger guys than what the hurts in
the kids you've been facing as a voight, So I.
Speaker 9 (08:26):
Think it would be a good I think you would
have good chemistry, and I think it would be a
good sweeper man.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, what about you? What about you, Jess?
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Yeah, I'm going with Broddo too. I think it would
be the coolest precioust pick they could make. I don't
I know better than to put all my like to
bet on the fact that's going to happen, but I
really hope that it does.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I would like to I would like to justify my
FTR pick very quickly because I think one of the reasons,
like non k Thabe Adam Clopland came to AW is
to have a run with Christian Cage, And I think
they are going to defeat FTR and they're going to
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retire as the World Taging Champions's that's what I believe
is gonna happen. So that's sort of why I think
they beat FTR to get those belts.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, you know, while here's my reasoning for what I said,
not FTR is because look, WWE is currently doing their
twenty twenty five Nostalgia Tour where they got forty eight
and fifty year olds going at it on the main
events of their shows. We don't need that in aaw
You could do Christian Cage and Copeland against FDR in
a non title match, and I'm non title feud if
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you want, and it would be just as good. I
don't think you really need I agree with that, you know,
net Let's see if you can.
Speaker 11 (10:00):
Okay, Okay, good?
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Sorry, I think I lost my WiFi. I was outside
and came back in the house. I was saying that
I'd like to see Brodito win. I think that Brody
King needs some gold and I'm honestly a bit tired
of FTR in general, so I'd like to see it
(10:24):
on Brodido.
Speaker 11 (10:25):
That's my choice.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Okay, Well, we just had Steve and Sleazy join us,
so let's go to Sleazy. We're talking about who do
we think is going to win the FTR and Brodido
match go on to face hurt Syndicate in Afterbidden Door. Also,
do you think that that team would be able to
beat Hurt Syndicate because none of us have actually said
that yet.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, I think Brodnido's going to win pure leave from
Adam and Copeland interference, and as for whether or not
they could beat the Hurts and get they could go
either way because the Hurts ind get they have giant,
massive muscles. Okay, that is a really hard quality to
(11:12):
get over. But I believe that Brodido could potentially pull
off the upset of the century.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Okay, let's go to Steve and see what you think.
Speaker 12 (11:25):
I'm gonna have to say, FTR, they I think as
a tag team they work together fine, but I do
see yeah, Edge could come in and like Edge.
Speaker 13 (11:40):
Or Adam Coplan, Yeah yeah, I'm so used to saying
is w name, Like I can see him like, yeah, yeah,
they like he could like come in and like just
(12:01):
like mess with them, kind of throw them off their
game and lose that way. I can see that happening.
But I think FTR because they're just they're more mistuh
established tag team.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Just gonna throw this out here.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Let me let me throw this out here because a
lot of people didn't say what their pick was for
forbidden or do you think that the winner of the
Brodido and FTR match is going to beat the Hurt
Syndicate real quick?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yes or no? Yes? No, yep, no, yep.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
It was like like the mented choir, That's what this
sounded like.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
That just killed me. I don't know why.
Speaker 8 (12:57):
F tr FTR gets over. I hope that they don't
get over on the his Hurt syndicate. But if Bronino
gets over, obviously I would I imagine that they would
get over.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
I think I think they're trying to tease Brodido a
little bit, in my opinion, have them get close close,
kind of like they claimed where they claim should have
won because they're so over with swerving our glory or
whatever their name was with Keith Lee, but they didn't.
So maybe they dangle dangle the carrot in front of
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us and see how we're you're act.
Speaker 11 (13:31):
I'm cool with that too.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It's Jade.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
What's sticking with the tag teams. We have the aforementioned
Adam Copeland and Christian Cage taking on I guess the
matriarchy at this point, Kip Sabian and Nick Wayne in
a grudge match, and I don't see there's any chance
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of Copeland and Cage not winning this match.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
So I thought you were going to say something different.
I was like, wow, no, I agree with you, Shades.
There's no way that cop and Cage aren't going to
win this match. Yeah, I agree, you have a better
chance of Cage turning on Copeland than you do them
losing this match.
Speaker 11 (14:16):
Do you imagine?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
All right, I think we have a consensus on that one.
We'll go to another match that I think there's going
to be a consensus on the TBS Championship four way
with champion Mercedes Monet representing a w Persephone representing CMLL
(14:44):
Alex Windsor and do we know who is representing Stardom yet?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
No, but I will say this is that. Well, tomorrow morning,
early in the morning, Uh, the five Star will be
comple leaded the playoff and the quarter finals of the
five Star will be completed.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Eight Stardom wrestlers will.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Be eliminated by I don't know nine am Eastern time
tomorrow morning. Well, actually before that, I'm thinking after that
show tomorrow morning that Stardom may introduce who it's going
to be. I thought it would be sure. But if
it's surey, there's no reason why they couldn't announce it
(15:27):
by now, so I kind of else.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Honestly, I don't think it matters because Mercedes Money is
going to retain her title, right, no windsor not.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
I'm joking, but yeah, definitely Money is going to get away, like,
no doubt about it at this point.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, it's it's moment.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Forbid and stop the money training guys. She wears her
belts like a skirt like it's.
Speaker 14 (15:54):
Yeah, you get in the way of that that no, no, no,
no now.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
And I think we're starting to get and I think
we're gonna see this one of the I don't want
to say issues, but some of the sometimes in the past,
and I think we're singing again. With these forbidden door matchups,
the outcomes can be a little too predictable.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
And I'll say that.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
As we go to the iw GP World Championship match
two Hometown Boys champion Zach Saber Junior defending against Nigel McGuinness,
who I guess is gonna have Daniel Garcia in his corner,
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (16:36):
And as like this more so being about Danny, like
there's gonna be a bomb match, like the imagine is
gonna be great, it's gonna be another tech technical spectacle
or whatever. But yeah, he's gonna be for Danny's heel
turn and he's gonna sabotage Nigel from getting that a
iw GP.
Speaker 11 (16:54):
That's what I think.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I didn't I wasn't really thinking about a hell turn.
But God, there's no chance stead Nigel Beginners is beating
Zach Labor Junior.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Nor should he.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
No one should beat Zach.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
No, No, what should be sack?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
No, No one should be Listen, he's all that, he's amazing.
Yeah what if? Oh yeah, listen. New Japan has to
(17:33):
ride this Zach Saber train as far as it will go,
because he's really about all they've got right now, at.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Least at least in singles, uh, bullet clubs, you know,
but I don't know. It's it's something, all.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Right, all right, So we all sort of feel feel
Zach Saberg is going to take that. Yes, yes, Another
one that I think is probably not gonna be a
surprise for most we have Kyle Fletcher defending his Team
T championship against Rome with Takahashi. That's Fletcher, all right,
(18:13):
I mean it's gotta be Fletcher's.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
This is one of those matches that this is one
of those matches that if it goes twenty minutes, it's
probably fifteen minutes too long.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Mmm my good.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I don't think that of all the matches on this card,
I consider this the least competitive match by.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
Far, I think it's gonna be a great match. I'll
say that much, but I don't want to say it.
But like, it does feel like whenever an AW talent
with a belt goes against somebody who's in another company,
it feels like a Battle of the belts, but on
a pay per view, you know, because like how many
title changes have we seen on a Battle of the belts?
(18:58):
How many title changes how we see between somebody out
of the company with somebody in the company.
Speaker 11 (19:04):
Do you feel me?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah? I get you.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Well, I'm about to blow your minds then, because the
next match I want to talk about is the a
W Women's World Championship Champion Timeless Tony Storm defending her
title against Athena. And I think Athena is walking out
of forbidden doors the AW Women's World Champion.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I hope that.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
As do I think I do.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Yeah, it and it annoys mainly people said, well, she's
on such a great time and she's doing so good,
she's a women's division and stuff. Well, you know, at
some point, she's had since February and I'm kind of
wanting something different, a little more flavor to it. It's
not gonna hurt Tony Storm to lose it at all,
(19:58):
and I think it's time.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
No, definitely is not gonna hurt Tony Storm to lose
this belt. I agree with the hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
There especially.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's going to be a good match. Oh yeah, I
will say this is don't forget that.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
A few days later, Atina has to defend the a
W Women's World Championship against Mina shear Kaala.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
The ring.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah, and I kind of think that baby Mina comes
away with it. Make her the face of of uh
Ring of Honor.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
You're speaking my language?
Speaker 9 (20:51):
Has the TV title? Give her both, but.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It's an interim title, and she's not even recognized you
know in some place.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Is it's it's weird.
Speaker 13 (21:03):
Yeah, if the Theanna does lose, I means she has
a problem.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
She has a problem winning big matches, and that's not
something you want your your Ring of Honor champion to
be doing. So I don't that's my issue with.
Speaker 14 (21:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Put it this way.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
She carried Ring of Honor, she has carried that company
for multiple years.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
And she.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Did a clean job to Mercedes Monette in the Owen
Heart Tournament, which is you know, which was her first
real big opportunity to parlay all that ring of honor,
you know, Cachet into an a W major victory, and
(21:55):
you know she didn't get to do that so that
we could have Mercedes versus Tony. I personally think it
should have been Tony versus Athena all in Texas because
Athena is from Texas. But now that we didn't get that,
Now that we didn't get that and Athena did the job,
I think I don't want to say owed. I don't think.
(22:16):
I don't think anybody's owed anything. But if anyone deserves
an opportunity to win this belt at forbidden door, and
like she deserves this chance to be the champion, I
fully believe that if.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
You may deserve it, but I don't think it's gonna
happen because here's the thing nobody's even mentioned. It's the
fact that she's about to reach one thousand days on
her ro OH World title right now. You may think
that makes her more of a threat to the Women's
World Champion in aw but as Shane said before, she
did a clean job to Tony Storm. So personally, in
(22:51):
my or, no, what was her name? The other one?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Mercedes?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Mercedes, Yes, but anyway, the.
Speaker 15 (22:58):
Other one, my point stands, Yeah, GE's.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Going to do another clean job here. It's gonna be
a great match, but she's going to job and then
it'll lead into a giant storyline of.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Oh, is she going to be able to do a
thousand days or is someone finally going to take the
crown off HER's that she might be.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I think Tony's going to win.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Well.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I thought we would have some different opinions on that,
but I so we'll see. I mean, obviously, go ahead, Kelsey.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
No, I just wanted to bring something up. You know,
you have the thousand days. I don't think that's important.
She's already the longest reigning Rigabanter champion men and women combined.
She passed them over Joe's record. Another thing that people
brought up are like, this is a little bit off topic,
but go back to the other one.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Mercedes Moday.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
People are saying that they want to keep that belt
on her until she passes Jade Cargill. I don't believe
that's true either, because I think you're giving Jake Cargill.
Don't he cares about Jake Cargill In a w her
reign was not anywhere near as good as Mercedes Monday's rain.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I mean, come on, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
There can I just say we're really spoiled in the
fact that we have two reigning women's champions in a
w who have had lengthy title reigns, and both of
them have been very, very good.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Absolutely that, And like I do want to to win
because I'm tired of paying nine to ninety nine a
month to have to watch her on R O H.
Speaker 16 (24:36):
And I'm really glad that, yes you've heard it from
the AW podcast team, we're not buying the Daughter Club
anymore wins.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
But you know something, I'm happy that I don't have.
You know, I could see her on HBO, Max and
whatever platforms that they stream a dynamite on you right,
seeing her on television Billy Starks too.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, I love Billy Starks.
Speaker 11 (25:06):
I'd like to see more of her. So that's that's
a real plus there.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I think we have.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
We have two more, we have three more matches. Actually,
we have another title match, the AW Unified Championship. Kaz
Because let me try this again, Kazuka Okata defends his
title against Swerve Strickland, and as amazing as it would
(25:39):
be for Swerve to go over here, and I think
in a different time and place that can happen and
maybe will happen. I don't think it's happening at Forbidden Door.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
A well, I don't mean to swerve the conversation, but
I think Swerve's gonna take the victory here just to
kind of start the slow and eventual collapse of Kaza's
thumb and and silvered them in card Rain.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Well, No, I agree with Jay's swears not winning this,
absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
He just want match with Kenny Omega. He's not going
to turn around and lose it at the next payer view.
I just don't see that happening.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Don Callus has a lot more paintings in him, so
I think is.
Speaker 11 (26:28):
Definitely gonna win.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I can't wait to see that painting.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
See.
Speaker 11 (26:36):
I'm on the edge of my seat, so let's.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
But you're here, I am no.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
I feel like somebody somebody said, for like one of
the other championship, I think it was for the tag
match because the hurt syndicate, like it might lead to
a story later down the line. But I don't think
that's where it was going to get over this time around.
Not not in like because like uh, like Shade said earlier,
like Okada is like the face of New Japan. Even
though he's aw, he's all elite right now, Like he's
(27:10):
still kind of like associated with uh New Japan. So
like you can't really do that here in this paper
kind of thing, you know, right, all right?
Speaker 4 (27:22):
We have big Yeah, we got the big daddy the
aw Men's World Championship Hangman Adam Page defending against m JF.
And I'm torn because I think Hangman probably should win
(27:42):
and probably will win, But I kind of would like
to see the meltdown if MJFB him the belt, like
the actual meltdown in the community.
Speaker 14 (27:54):
Like what.
Speaker 8 (27:56):
If I if I see that dynamite diamond ring on
that boy finger at any point in the match and
want to get up and turn off my TV, Like
I I lose it if he like, because that's the
only way I could see him winning and getting over
Hangman is if he cheats, you know, and does the
heelish thing that he does, the sleazy MJF thing, and
he does, you know, and wams him inside the head
(28:16):
with that uh dynamite diamond ring, you know.
Speaker 11 (28:20):
But that's the only way, and I'll be pissed off
if I.
Speaker 17 (28:23):
See that this match did the did what I never
thought it would make me do, and made me call
this pay per view interesting, which I have never done before.
I'm honest to God, do not know who is going
to win.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
This is amazing.
Speaker 17 (28:40):
It may be called forbidden Door interesting, This is huge.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
This is not the match for me to Yeah, I
feel that, well, this is the least interesting match for me.
I just I don't know it's JAF lately or what
it is, but I'm not I know, hang Ma's probably
gonna win because he's not gonna go through all that
pain taking stuff with the death risings and say, oh
here you go, MJF, just take it. Why don't you didn't?
(29:06):
I don't see that happening.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah, well, look at the ninety second anniversary of CML.
MGF is going to lose the CML CMLL Championship to Mistico,
and that would be the second championship match he's lost
in the span of two weeks.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Because he's not going to win this match either.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Nope, he's not.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
No, I don't see him winning.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
The question because what happens late after I look, where
do these two go afterward? Are they going to continue
their program because I don't see MJF just letting this
go if he loses this match. I think this feud
might ultimately result in MJF becoming the champion, but just
not yet.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, the only other thing that could happen is MGF.
If he does win this, he'll lose it back to
Hangman in ten days. That they've done that before. Somebody
brought up Swerving Our Glory and the Acclaimed If you remember,
Acclaimed lost the Swerve in Our Glory and then shortly
(30:17):
afterward One won it back.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
So I really hope we don't start heart hot shotting
world title like that.
Speaker 11 (30:24):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
That's a very double thing to do.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I don't like that either.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, I just don't. I think this is the wrong
time to be doing this match. I think needed a
I think it needed a bigger build.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
And I said that last week too. Yeah, and Hang Matt.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Probably would have been better, sir participating in the lights
out match.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
That's where I'd like to see him and see the
lights out match.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
I agree over there and can together about the lights
out match. We've got the Death Writers, Gabe Kid and
the Young Bucks taking on Darby Allen, Roshi Tanahashi, will Spray,
Kenny Omega and newly signed to a contract extension Coda
AbuI What I mean, how many matches did he wrestle
(31:11):
on his first contract with the a W three.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
He's gonna ride that bicycle.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Should ride the bicycle down with a jow. Yeah, he'sows. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Look, the death Riders are the Heels, if you will,
let's just call them the Heels are.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Going to kill these guys. I mean, you've got a
guy that you know is basically less. You know, she.
Speaker 14 (31:45):
Has no knees, Ospray has no neck, Kenny Omega has
no abdomen, is a walking calamity, and Darby Allen, Darby
Allen might be the most physically together a person on
that team, which tells you everything you need to know.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
There's something wrong with the Face team, like every other
one was like, you know, I think that I don't
think there's I don't think there's any mystery behind who's
going to win this match. I mean it's got to
be it's got to be the Heels. The only mystery
of this is what Choliber is gonna say. As far
as how many feet I've ever removed.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, as you know, fifteen miles of Kenny Omega's and
testing was removed.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
It's like it's feet.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Remember I had a mild case of the Victor lightis
and it extended on to where he was near comatose.
Speaker 11 (33:05):
So it's just never ends.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
No, I mean, at this point, I don't know if
this whole thing was k fab or not. I really don't,
you know, It's it's weird.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I just I want to see Sperry walk down to
the ring holding his neck, and then Candy holding his stomach,
and Hashi walking bow legged and.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Wheelchair Darby Allen walking out, and just instead of hopping
into the ring, he just plants himself fa first, face
first into the ring post.
Speaker 11 (33:44):
Just for the hell off the top of the cane,
you know, Oh goodness, that man is Yeah, that's right.
No one can see anything.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Nzy says in chat. I wonder how they're going to
disrespect the bucks this time, And I'm like, I don't know,
but I tell you what I hope will eventually come
from this is I think they're teasing a breakup of
the box.
Speaker 11 (34:23):
You think so.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
That would.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Listen think I just want to throw this out here.
What is the Bucks have done everything. They've done everything.
What's the one story they've not done? A breakup?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
And if you look there is when Don Kallus approached them,
there is a picture of him hugging the Bucks and
you know Nick Jackson looking at Mac Jackson kind of
weird and Mac Jackson really embracing Don call Us. They
took the same picture with Don Kallis hugging Kyle Fletcher
(35:05):
and Will Osprey. Wow, I'll see if I can find it.
But it's it's a lot of foreshadowing.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
It's that Wow, That's that's a deep dive right there.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
You know what what I you know, what I'd like
to see is on Dynamite tomorrow from Glasgow. I'd like
to see them have like a promotion with the Bucks.
But they dead in the audio and they put subtitles
up which are clearly not what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
And I think that would just be the greatest way
to lead it to.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
The fantastic.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah, for the first adult Schwartzenegger movie, that was hysterical.
If you don't get a chance, go look at that that.
I mean, you know, Arnold Schwartzedger. I'm got the Jim
and I am, you know, he's just speaking perfect English
and I'm it's it's hysterical knowing what we know.
Speaker 9 (36:03):
Now.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Anyway, Well, now.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
That we've talked about the main card, what do you
guys think there's going to be, well what what do
you think is going to be added to zero hour
match wise? Do you think we're going to get a
zero hour like.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
What we definitely we will get.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Here's what I hope happened either on Dynamite or Collision
this week. I would love to see Tekla come out
and challenge Cosmic Angels or Empress, Nexus, Venus whomever to
a you know, triangle of madness against three of the.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Idols from stardom. I think that would be a really
good zero hour match and it.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Would be something that we sit for that and that
would be something that would get start Stardom fans in
Japanese fans invested in Forbidden Door and maybe get some
sell by byes from that as well.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
And they also have any wish list zero hour matches?
Speaker 5 (37:08):
No what.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Everybody talked to once.
Speaker 9 (37:19):
Okay, so Techwan and triangle challenging.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
It would obviously have.
Speaker 9 (37:24):
To be caused by Angels because twas the idle, the
whole idole thing in Japan. It would be funny though.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, but if it was Eres Nexus Venus, that would
mean that maybe you could get uh Mina.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Shere A Cow involved because that was her old group.
You can't even have a mish mash. You don't have
to go with just one group.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
So I mean, I just think it would be a
great match for starting fans to see and maybe do
a buy in for Forbidden Door.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
And here's a match I think they could happened.
Speaker 15 (38:00):
So Platinum Max is making his International Challenge International, right,
so he gets put on zero hour, They do the
very stupid chant that is incredibly annoying and has a
low quality T shirt and then who.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Who else comes out? But Ward Low? It's Genies. Yeah,
Wardlow could be good. I don't know.
Speaker 9 (38:30):
Oh, give me Bonzilla in the TVs title match as
the stardom representative.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Now that that wouldn't work. She's just she's too green.
She's too green. She's at the ring with veterans here.
She could should be out of place. I don't think
she could work it in terms of.
Speaker 9 (38:50):
That of the stardom representative. Then give me az M
or give me momo.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Uh it makes sense, like kid in this chat.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
I'm sorry, So is there no love for the Starlight
Kid in this chat?
Speaker 5 (39:07):
Well?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, everybody was a Startlight Kid.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
But the fact of the matter is Starlight Kids already
booked for a match at Segura. Uh right, but she's
already booked for a match that day as is That's boy. Yeah,
Starlight Kid, that's a poise Serrie, and I can't remember
there's one other from stardom.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Yeah, since it's in England. What about the Priestley?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
No, not based on what she's been doing, she's not
that she's not signed to start them, so that kind
of eliminates here right there.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
But she's had some awful matches in that five star
So I have I have another great idea for a
zero Adam match.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Jack Perry versus Griff Garrett.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Oh damn it, we're editing that.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
Who You're worse than me? Because I was gonna say
my favorite Eddie Kingston just come out and Entertainments.
Speaker 11 (40:19):
I didn't want to say it first. I didn't want to.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Max challenges to be Eddie Kingston.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Eddie Kingston comes to the rain, grabs a mic and
farts the a b c's only on Forbidden Doors zero hour.
Speaker 7 (40:40):
All right, he does chops to Platinum Max to the
beat of let's go Max, You're the best wrestler.
Speaker 8 (40:54):
In Look man, the whole heel side. That age match
already looks like a dinner bell for Kingston. Like you know,
I'm already, I feel it. I'm going to the E
c W shows.
Speaker 11 (41:07):
I'm coping. I'm excited. I feel it. It's in the air,
like it's you know, I'm excited. I hope so was.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Everybody here knows. I love Eddie Kingston.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
I just want I think he shaved that beard too.
I think he's ready.
Speaker 8 (41:25):
Yeah, he said that he's just waiting on Tony Kahn Sosa.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
Maybe maybe Tony can just itnitely, forget about him, just.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
Just just come out to Platinum Mexico. You preap what
you sow Patna?
Speaker 7 (41:55):
All right?
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Did I tell you what these nuts?
Speaker 4 (41:58):
All right, let's let's go on to pot pourri and
I'll get this started. There's some news out there, some
rumors that when his current aaw Dill is up, that
Chris Jericho might make his way back to WWE. And
(42:20):
I don't want to talk about WW but here's what
I want to say. If that happens, fine, I don't.
I don't want to see anyone, you know. I get
that Jericho's character has kind of gotten a little stale,
and I get that he's maybe run his course in AW.
But let's be very very clear, Chris Jericho signing with
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this company and being its first world champion is a major,
major reason why it was able to establish a foothold.
And so I will if he leaves and goes to WWE,
I'll say happy trails that thanks for everything, Chris, and
that'll be it. Like I'm not going to trash him
on the way out the door. And so I hope
(43:08):
that that is the attitude of AW fans if that happens.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah, No, I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I mean, at this point, I think Chris Jericho is
a WWE wrestler. I don't think you are a sports entertainer.
I don't think he's an AW wrestler at this point
because he hasn't been on anything for what four months,
almost almost four months now, Since I don't I.
Speaker 5 (43:32):
Don't see it as a smart move for him. But
if he wants to do it, go for it. I
don't I don't know how friendly he is with Paul
to me and Alavenders all the interviews I've seen him,
and he seems like a vinced guy. So I don't know.
I think there's more roles for him besides ring and
besides wrestling her new commentary, he could do a lot
(43:54):
of stuff.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
We also don't forget about Fozzy.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
If he does sign with WWE, is he going to
be able to record a tour with you know these
how many Grammys have they won?
Speaker 4 (44:09):
None?
Speaker 9 (44:12):
No one?
Speaker 8 (44:19):
Would he still even run the cruise of Jericho if
he went to the WW Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
What Happenstan?
Speaker 4 (44:26):
They're gonna want twenty five percent of the gate on
that is what?
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Oh my god?
Speaker 8 (44:30):
He charges like thirteen dollars for you to get a
something like a handmade guitar and you get to ask
him a question or something.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
And I was like, what.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
If he wanted to leave?
Speaker 8 (44:43):
Like if anybody wants to work at another company that
isn't aw let them. You know, I'm pretty sure we're
gonna talk about that later. But with Jericho, like I
could totally see him going back home, you know, like
that was his whole gimmick too. He was the sports entertainer,
like uh, with the Jericho Appreciation Society, with the whole
Danny Garcia thing about whether or not he was a
(45:04):
sports entertainer or a professional wrestler. And ADEW has made
its stance that it is professional wrestling and not sports entertainment.
So there's really absolutely no space for Jericho anymore, like
Shade said, But also like Shade said, he is integral
to the history of ADEW. He will always be the
inaugural AW World Champion and nothing can change that. You know,
(45:27):
he established a lot of talents like Daddy Magic and
a cool hand ind and Danny Garcia. A lot of
cool people came out of Santana and Artiz. They were
in the Inner Circle. I loved the Cody, Uh, mister
Kay said, but yeah, Sammy, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:44):
But has to stop for Yeah, there's a lot of
Jericho slander going on and stuff. And look, he put
over Orange Cassidy when he didn't have to, because at
first he didn't understand the Van's gimmick, but he got it.
And he's done a lot for this company, whether you
like his character or not. And I think his part
(46:05):
in Brawl Out help with you know, Tony didn't know
what to do. I think Jericho helped in that situation too,
So he he's great. I don't see a place in WWE.
I don't see a match where I really want him
to face anybody. So I don't know what he's going
to do over there. Maybe it's a one off. I
don't know, but at some point he deserves his flowers
(46:29):
and people need to quit billy aching about him burying people,
which he never buried anybody.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Well, I think that was what the point that Shades
made initially is that, Yeah, the only thing.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
The only thing I will say is the one thing
Chris Jericho asked people to do when he won the belt,
and I'll just say thank you, Chris Jericho. So I think, Kay,
you mentioned another talent who might want to work at
another company. Do you want to expound on that?
Speaker 8 (46:58):
Oh, my man, darn Housen. Look, I love Dan Housen,
and I understand, Well I don't. I don't understand because
it's not my business. But with the adding of the
injury time because he wants to leave, he hasn't been
booked and god knows how long, and I feel like
it might have to do.
Speaker 11 (47:18):
With, you know, merchandising. Stuff.
Speaker 8 (47:20):
Because when you look, every time they post the stats
on aw merchandise, he's usually number three and he hasn't
even been on television and god knows how long, you know,
and they're holding on to him, and he wants to leave,
and I think, let him. You know, we already had
the bs with Ray Phoenix when he's like posting about
how he's suffocating, excuse me, how he's suffocating and dying,
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and how he wants to get out of this company,
you know, like a wounded animal in the corner like that.
You know, that sucked having to watch that happen for months.
I want to want to see Dan, like Dan hous
is doing great on the indies right now. That man's
paid some of my bills, you know, because he's commissioned
me to make stuff for him. And I thought that
was really cool. Like I think he should leave. I think,
(48:02):
you know, I think he should if he wants to
go and have bygones, be bygones.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Let him, you know, with that house.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
And he's done nothing really but curse people, and he's
had what two mediocre matches. But I think the biggest
thing with what you said that the takeaway is, look
at Ray Phoenix, bad mouthing a W, and AW just
kept him away from AWW as long as they can go.
Dan Houses has been bad mouthing aw.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
A.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Oh yeah, he has constantly and and we've just got
aw just getting him. Whatever did you look at somebody
like Malachi Black Alistair Black. He was very open up front.
You know, I've heard that he communicated the Tony Kahn.
He wanted his release, he got released. No arguments from
(48:56):
Tony con. It's Tony con strikes me as like, if
you are respectful to not only him but the company,
he should to take care of you.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Whatever way.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
Yes, the page is another one ethan page with the
Tony Cohn said, Hey, I think I think I could
do better elsewhere, and I really want a chance to
go wrestle somewhere else and Tony kNN just said okay,
and he ended up NXT the next week.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
You know, draw of of Dan Hassen as a wrestler.
I think he's a great comedic guy. I think he
would be great at backstage or or shanigans and stuff
like that, but I don't I don't think he's it.
He's great at merchandise, He's a great I don't know.
He's just not somebody I want in AW anymore.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
Guys, here's the deal here, here is the bottom line
the deal. W WING has made it clear. They've aught,
They have stated openly that their goal is to put
a W out of business. They have engaged in you know,
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crappy business practices, contract hampering, you name it. They have
done everything they can to try to undermine AW. When
someone's pointing a gun at you, you don't hand them
another bullet. And it's unfortunate for Dan Housen that he's
in this situation. But WWE is the one who has
(50:26):
created the environment where Tony Kahn has to protect his business.
WWE has done that.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Let me ask you a question. Shades Aw just recently
signed Ace Austin. Would you say, I'm gonna ask you
two questions. First question is would you say that A's
Austen is a better wrestler.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
Than Dan Housen without question?
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
The second question is how many Dan wait a minute,
how many Dan Housen's would it take the equal one
Ace Austin.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I would say probably around forty or so.
Speaker 5 (51:04):
Forty, But we don't need any David.
Speaker 4 (51:07):
No, I don't think that's the math you can look at, though.
I think you have to look at the fact that
what they're gonna do if he releases Dan Housen today,
he's gonna get signed tomorrow. They're gonna put him on nxteam,
which is probably the one play. Like we talk about
we make fun of Mariah may Slash, Blake Monroe and
all these other people getting relegated to NXT, NXT is
(51:27):
actually a place where Dan Housen can thrive. I think
that could be a really great spot for him. And
if that happens, it's gonna be They're gonna stick it
to aw every week. It's gonna be some tongue in
cheek comment, it's gonna be everything they can and that's
going to happen anyway, unfortunately. But you just can't. I
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think it's bad. It's a bad precedent to set number one,
when a guy's bad mouth in your company, to give
him what he wants. And number two, like, you can't
be the nice guy in an environment where nobody else
is the nice guy or you're gonna get walked all over.
And that WWE. If WWE was a more reasonable business
(52:13):
entity and just focused on its own stuff and didn't
try to undermine AW encounter program and do all these
things to like explicitly put it out of business. Then yeah,
things might be different, you know, but they're not so.
Tony Kahn first and foremost has a business to protect.
How many people does he employ? How many you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (52:33):
He can't.
Speaker 4 (52:34):
He can't just think about what's best for Dan Housen.
He's got to think about what's best for all the
restorers who are on his roster, all of the people
who work in production, all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
Well, I'm just saying is that if somebody like Dan
Housen went to WW tomorrow, I don't think it would
in any way, shape or form hurt AW, other than
maybe in the merchandising.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
But let me say this.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Of the last eight signees in twenty twenty five that
AAW has gotten, none of them have ever wrestled in WWE.
That's important. The other thing is that they're considerably younger
and more experienced than what ww's Look, this is what
I'm saying, you know, on the AAW side, Look five
(53:19):
seven years from now. I think I said this last week.
Guys like FTR Adam Copeland, maybe Christian Cage, Kenny Omega
and others are not going to be with a w anymore.
But they've got guys like swer Strickland and hang Met,
Adam Page and will Osbry and Kyle fletcherd It can
step up and take those spots, no problem right now.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Right now, they could do that.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
The problem is is that, I mean, look at what's
going on with the WWE's supposed matchup for August twentieth,
John Cena and Brock Lesner. That's two forty eight year
old men that are part timers that are in the
(54:06):
main event. You know, this is what I'm saying. AW
is going younger, but not just younger as far as
developmental talent. They're going younger with experience and even their
developmental talent that they had in the AAW dark days.
(54:27):
You're getting along with these people that actually have experience.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
Now.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
You know, you could look especially in the women's division
Sky Blue, Julia Hart, you know some people like that.
They're talking about people that have experience and WWE. If
you look at the ed XT roster, they have some
young people on NXT roster that I've never heard of
and can't Remember if I've ever heard of mat even
(54:54):
having a match, you know, I mean a legitimate match,
not a squash, but a legitimate match.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
See, this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
AW needs to keep on doing what they're doing right now,
building and developing the younger talent and giving them ample experience,
not just squash matches.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
And that's what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
And five seven years from now, like I said, when
these AW wrestlers are no longer going to be with
the company like FDR and Kenny Omega and Adam Copeland
and then you know whatnot.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
You have experienced backups that can pick it up.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
And they're doing it now, So why can't they do
it five seven years from now? They're going to be
in their prime. You see what I'm saying. So you
know that's the thing. It's a revolving door. I think
I said this last week. The report was is that
basically the average WWE viewer is ten years older than
(55:53):
the average AW viewer. Why is that because they grew
up watching these same guys that are in WWE. And
I jokingly mentioned the WWE twenty twenty five nostalgia Tour,
meaning that they've gotten all these older wrestlers wrestling in
main events all over the place. You know, seem punk,
(56:17):
you know whatever. I mean, they're not young bucks anymore.
Part of the pun and a at A w to
put on these matches with younger guys Hagman, Adam Page
and MJF. Come on, I mean, look at that. Those
(56:38):
those are younger guys that five from seven years five
to seven years from now are still going to be
in their prime.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (56:46):
I agree the Aws positioned better right now than probably
they have been hit. And I agree that their future
is bright. And I think one of the reasons they
are that way is because Tony has been really smart
with how he's running his business.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
And so.
Speaker 4 (57:02):
I think if Tony feels that he needs to keep
a contract going, if that, like, I trust his ability
to manage his business. Let me put it that way.
Speaker 3 (57:13):
Yeah, I want to I want to come up with
my potpourri. It's just not really a discussion topic. It's
really just a comment. It just wanted to say congratulations
to Naomi and Jimmy Usol because they just announced that
they are expecting their first child together.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
I think it's great.
Speaker 3 (57:29):
I'm really I'm Naomi and I'm really happy that Naomi's
quote unquote injury that kept her from being cleared is
not something serious but something amazing.
Speaker 5 (57:45):
I think you called it actually when it first happened,
you were thinking pregnancy.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
Well, I know that she had said that she wanted
to start a family, and there were some there were
some is ses. I don't want to get into it
because it's none of my damn business in door hours,
but there were some issues preventing her from starting that family,
and obviously that has been rectified. And I just really
hope that have a beautiful baby boy or baby girl
(58:17):
and have a happy family together.
Speaker 1 (58:20):
Put it that way. I had anybody else with the puffery,
go ahead, I have one.
Speaker 11 (58:28):
I got to.
Speaker 5 (58:29):
I watched clips of Triple Mania, and I'm gonna say
something I don't say about w about the stuff it was.
It was very good, and WWE made Lucha Leebray a
little bit more relevant and a lot of goofy stuff
and fun stuff. But on the flip side of that,
I don't want to hear any more WWE fans complaining
(58:52):
about Orange Cassidy or the flippity floppity things that we
do anymore, because yeah, I really enjoyed it. You know,
even at Iguana and the Puppet and Microman and all
that stuff. It was fun and wrestling is supposed to
be fun. If you get to stick out of your
rear ends, you'll you'll enjoy wrestling.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
Yeah, I mean, I don't have a problem with it
at all, you know, and it's it's a shame. And
I will say this as somebody and that runs and
Steve and Shades could probably back me up on this
because we're moderators on the aw Fantom subreddit, and I
know that Steve is a moderator at other subredits, including
Greatness of Wrestling. A lot of the comments that are
(59:37):
made about flippity flippity stuff and negative tribalistic stuff on
all subreddits that I see. Third, for people who are
not members of the subreddit, it just shows up on
their feed. They take an opportunity to make a comment.
I know that when I look at some of the
people to make these tribalistic comments, it's literally like their
(59:59):
first and second can comment that they've made on whatever
subreddit they're on, you know, and a lot of them
don't even make comments on wrestling subreddits.
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
So it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Pay attention to the people that you know are watching
the product, don't pay attention to people, or are just
trying to get under your skin.
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
The one thing I'll say about Triplemania, I think we
could have done with up the thick Taurus.
Speaker 9 (01:00:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
I wonder if that's a friend of Beast Bortos, because
he's been jokingly like saying, you know, I'm a lawyer
and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
I hope, I hope it's a tongue. I hope that
they're everybody's cool with it. I just you know, but
I guess for a company that literally toted a casket
out of a ring and resurrected La Parca from it
the year, you can't. I guess everything's on the table.
Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Is anybody else?
Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
All right, then, well we'll be back tomorrow night, right
after Dynamite to do our aw fan Hub Dynamite review.
We're gonna do it a little bit differently tomorrow night.
We're gonna try to do three matches and then we're
gonna do a pote piri where everybody can bring up
something about the other matches and segments or whatever. So
(01:01:37):
we're gonna pick the three biggest ones. So we're gonna
try to limit the time on it and make it
just more enjoyable to the podcasters and for all the
people that are listening as well. So again, thank you
for listening. Thank you to everybody on the podcast team
to show it up tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
This was fun.
Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Tell us of the comments, whether you agree with the
podcast team's picks and thoughts and their crazy comments. Uh
that we're made tonight and we will see you tomorrow night.
So for the a W Fan podcast team, what did
I just say there? The postcast team, Yeah, uh, this
is Kelson.
Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
And this is Uh and this is Shades the Vibe.
Good night Eddie Kingston.
Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Good night Eddie kings Did.
Speaker 11 (01:02:26):
Good night Eddie.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
We love you. Yeah,
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