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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Nine Ignition six five four three two one zero, All
Engine running.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
Ignition with the AEW fan Hub podcast team. This is Kelson,
and we are going to talk about some of the
hot topics going on in AW and I don't think
that there's anything hotter than the preparation for all Out.
And one of the things that happened this week a
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W announced their scheduled or television schedule for the all
Out week and it's kind of interesting because Dynamite's going
to air at its regular time on TBS, but after Dynamite,
you're going to have a one hour special episode of Collision,
and then they're doing the usual all out countdown to
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all Out after that. So we're gonna have basically four
hours of television on Wednesday night, September seventeenth. Then on Saturday,
instead of doing a taped Collision, they're gonna do what
they're calling I can't remember exactly what they're calling it,
but they're doing like a tailgate party one hour before
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all Out starts. It starts at seven pm Eastern air
on TNT on September twentieth. What I don't know is
if this is going to be considered zero hour or
if it's going to be running simultaneous with Zero Hour.
Of course, all Out is going against Russellala from WWE,
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and I put the hypothetical Russell Palooza match card up
in the sidebar. You have CM Punk and aj Lee
versus Seth Rollins and Becky Lynch, John Cena versus Brock Wesner,
Cody Rhodes versus Drew McIntyre for an undisputed title, Eo
Sky versus Stephi d Vaker for I said Voker Women's
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World title, and the USO's versus the Bronsons. So you're
looking at what five matches on the Wressell Palooza pay
per view? They may add one more. The question that
I have for you, look, guys, I really want to
get into this. What do you There's so many different questions,
but I want to start with has anybody heard if
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they're going to be having a regular zero hour or
if this one hour collision on Saturday night before All
Out is going to serve as the collision? And what
do you think that AW has to do between now
and all Out to really promote All Out? Because look
at the hypothetical match card. WWE on paper kind of
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loaded it, loaded it up. What do you guys think?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Hey, you go first?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Okay, so we have dead silence. So yeah, yeah, that's right.
I would wait for people to say something.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I'm not worried about it.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I know there's some good stuff down the line with
AW and shaping up already. They got several good matches
going on, so I'm not I'm not worried about it.
There's no pay per view like an AW pay per view,
so we'll stack up. The only thing I'd be interested
in seeing is the women's matches. I don't like Cody
Rhodes match. I don't like Curry Roads as a personality,
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so uh, I wouldn't care about that neither. So I
think you'll get what you get.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, look, well you said something really interesting there. You
only care about the women's matches. Look, Yesky versus Stephanie
is going to be that. That's that's a match. You know,
that's that's a great match. What match would you like
to see a w counter it with? Did you have
anything in mind? I mean, well, and I'm talking about
a women's match. What would you do if you were
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a W putting women's match together for.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
All Outzilla respectfully, Like everybody popped for Bozila online as
far as I saw a Forbidden Door, like, there's no
reason not to bring her back. That's just me just spitballing,
you know.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
But if you okay, but if you bring back Mozilla
and what what capacity?
Speaker 6 (04:53):
I mean?
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Uhh, I want to see a multi man multi woman
match with Bain Bain, Statlander, Bozilla and somebody and and
Tony go at it like.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, well we just did that at the last pay
per view. We just did that at Forbid Door.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Tony needs something and she's not getting any challengers. Who's
left for Tony to really face?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Well, they could, you know, if they really wanted to
make a splash, aw can bring in Dakota Kai. Uh
that would be you know, if you were going to
bring a Dakota Kai, say even as early as tomorrow
night and have her confront Tony Storm or Mercedes Monette,
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that would be a pretty marquee matchup right there. I think,
what do you guys think about that idea?
Speaker 6 (06:00):
That sounds great.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I just feel one of them has to lose a
title here pretty soon.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
No, I agree with you and then bringing it back
to something else that mister K said, like there is
nothing like in a w pay per view.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
You know, these are.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Two completely different products. These are two like other than
the women's matches. I agree that that's the only thing
that really moves me on that card. On the hypothetical card,
I am more moved by whatever a w has to offer.
The build with uh Copa Christian versus FTR has been
really cool. Then, Like I'm just I'm just really excited
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for all Out. I'm really excited for what is coming
up after all Out? You know this does I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Care what forget? Yeah, mox Moxley versus Darby Allen, which
you know it's it's gonna be a war.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Oh yeah, I have I havens. When I initially saw
WWE throwing out Russell Palooza's counterprogramming, I expected it to
be one of their like two and a half to
three hour plees where they had one or two marquee matches.
But it's pretty clear they are loading the show up
and I don't think it's co instance. They're going hard
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at aw when their two top babyfaces are out. That's
where of an Osprey and nowhere to be seen. I
think WWE is going to be very aggressive over the
next couple months because I do think AW is in
a vulnerable position. We talked about it on last week's show.
I don't think they've done enough booking yet. We are
three weeks out and we have two official matches this week.
AW has to put up a shut up. If you
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were going to put on a competitive product against WWE
and you're going to pull people, I'm sorry, but edgend
Christian reuniting is not going to be enough with what
they're up against. So I really need to see them
get something going. You guys are articulated some of the
problems seeing the lineup for the women's contenders. I think
that's key. We should know these things by now, and
I think that's been a problem with some of their
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booking for some of the smaller pay per views is
we are two or three weeks out and we only
have one or two marquee matches. They need to get
that taken care of this week, and if they don't
have more matches named, they at least need to have
the pieces in play like with WWE right now, so
we know what is going to be announced like I
think a WWE, it's like one or two official matches,
but clearly the pieces are all there for others that
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needs to be established in AW this week. I have
some concerns about this pain view right now.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, I mean, look the way I look at it
with the WWE card, Cody versus Drew is going to
be a big people like Cody and people like Drew.
I if there is one wrestler in WWE that I
would love to have an AAW, it would be Drew McIntyre.
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I think he's fantastic when it comes to the Sky
and Stephanie of a Kerr that is a marquee matchup
and frankly it just go back. I would love to
have them in AW, both of them. But look, here's
the thing. When you look at WWE, especially recently, they somehow,
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some way find a way to mess things up. I
don't know how they manage to do it. Uh, they
they have weird look and I think the best example
of this are the two of the other matches. See
I'm punking aj Lea versus Seth Rollins and Becky Lynch.
If you saw the Becky Lynch against Mickey the Nicky
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Bella match that was a travesty that was just absolutely awful.
The no chemistry.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
People are even saying that Becky Lynch phoned it in.
I just I don't think so. I just don't think
that they had to. Look, I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I said they really blame her. They need to get
rid of Nicki Bella. She hasn't been good for years.
I don't know why they keep on bringing her back,
why people want her.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
But my point here is is that you have see
I'm punk who can't wrestle anymore. He gets gassed and
he's on it. He's just not good. And aj Lee
he's in the same probably he could say the same
boat as Nicky Bella. She hasn't been around. She's gonna
They're not gonna have This match is gonna mostly probably
be c I'm punking seth Rawlins going at it with
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aj Lee and Becky Lynch doing little things because I
don't think aj Lee is would be able to do anything.
And then you have John Cena against brock Lesner, and
I am sorry that is going to get some eyes
on it, but to me, that's two forty eight year
old park timers in a meaningless match.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, but we're looking at this too from an AAW
fans perspective. We watch AW because I don't want to
speak for everybody here, but I think most folks would agree.
We prefer the in ring style and are more in
ring focused. Fans like matches to tell the stories as
opposed to the stories to book the matches. So for us,
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these don't These don't seem appealing. But if you're in
a case said this earlier, it's a different product. If
you're a generic wrestling fan or a WWE fan, like
this is a huge card. These are major characters. They
don't tune into the pay per views expecting the high
level of athleticism and matches that we get in AW
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because to case point, it's a different product. So I
think people are being a little too cavalier with not
tuning in like this is the WWE is loading up
this card for a reason, and are they hot shotting
some things? To your point, Kelson, it's entirely possible. And
if they do these reactive bookings where they try to
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overwhelm me AW every time, they will get in the
way of their long term booking and storytelling. Because you
can't do that. You can't hopshot in perpetuity. But they're
loading up this card and right now, I don't see
anything in AW from a name brand standpoint that is
going to match up with what they're putting out there.
And that's concerning to me. I do not like the
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build for all out right now.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
No, and I agree with you, what's good? Go ahead?
The car was h what was that? Hey?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Mute it?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I don't think you realized he was a muted Okay? Uh?
Did you have something to suggest?
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Yes? I did.
Speaker 8 (12:29):
I think WWE has always been good at, like always,
what they're good at is spectacle. I despise brock Lesner
and everything he stands for. The man disgusts me.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
But his match with John Cena is going to be
just that, a grand spectacle. But what's beyond that? Both
him and John Cena are so old, there's like it's
it's all flash and sizzle but no steak. I think
people hopefully will realize that this is just like a
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peep like booking decision to try to like, oh look
over ere we got brock Lesnar and John Cena, remember them,
ignore the w the ae W behind the curtains. I
don't think that's kind of I don't think that's going
to work because there's no substance.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, uh sacked, what I saw that you wanted to speak?
What did what did you have in mind?
Speaker 9 (13:31):
Be honest, I feel like they can like make sure.
I'm I know it's too too late, but I think
I know they want Mercedes Monee to like hold his
belt longer than Jay Cargill did. But if if you
can make like a good good match for all you
can do like Mercedes mone versus Alex Winster for the
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belt because it's like one of like the top people.
And plus I didn't mercees Mo name needs to lose
a title since she has like nine belts right now?
Speaker 10 (14:06):
Yeah yeah, well Sex, let me let me ask you, well, you,
first of all, you do know that tomorrow night, Dynamite
Mercedes Monett is facing Alex Windsor for the TBS Championship.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Now, the when it comes to Jade Cargill you mentioned
this last week. Mercedes Monet will pass Jade Cargill for
the longest reigning TBS champion two days before Russell Dream happens.
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I personally don't think that they need to keep those
belts or that TBS Championship Belt on Mercedes Monee so
she can break Jade Cargill's time record. I really don't
because there's no comparing Mercedes Monet and Jay Cargill. I mean,
how do you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 9 (15:04):
Jay Cargo was like really good, was like I don't know,
in the middle between in AW because she was well.
I didn't watch like mostly AW for that time period
because I mostly I was mostly a WW guy myself,
but I was. But I started watching a lot of
a lot of her now when she.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Was like in WWE.
Speaker 9 (15:26):
But I realized I watched some of her old matches
and she was doing good and she knew how to wrestle,
she knew how to like do her finisher and all that.
But I just feel like Mercedes Money is a tiny
little bit overrated.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Well I think part of it is with Mercedes one
Day being overrated, is that her gimmick is being over
I think about it. I think her gimmick is being overrated.
Am I off base there? Does anybody have an opinion
on that? No?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I think you're totally sat on kills.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I mean she's out there just you know, literally just
smarming it up. With every everybody.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
She came into this company and immediately swiped off the
title off of my beloved Willow Nightingale, Like that's that's
been her thing, just show voting and upstaging everybody. She
proclaimed herself as the CEO of this company. Like yeah,
kind of forgiving. I don't you know, I personally don't
care for her, but she's a heel, Like that's that's
her thing. She's supposed you know, if you don't like
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her because she's overrated, she's doing her job.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah. So look, I agree with Barry and others that
said that AW needs to go ahead and you know,
start making some matches and they need to do it.
Would you agree that they need to do it starting
tomorrow at Dynamite. They really need to make a couple
more matches at least, I would say two more matches,
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ye for all out.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I think.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So, I mean, Kyle Fletcher is out there, he's hot,
he's got to have a match, and it's got to
be good. And I really do believe that they need
to make it to where Tony Storm or Mercedes Monet
actually loses. And when I'm gonna say this, I think
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that one of those should if somebody was to lose
a belt, whether it's Mercedes Monet or Tony Storm or
one of the other title holders, really it has to
be done like on the opening match, so people will
hear about it and they'll be going, oh my god,
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all out. We don't know what to expect on all out.
They're not doing the expected because look, if you see somebody,
look Tony Storm versus Alex Windsor versus No No, Willow
Knight and Gale versus what will Chris stat Lander in
a four way for the women's Championship. It's been done before.
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But I say been done before, It's been done a
lot before. They need to do something new, you know.
You know.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
One of the things that really bugs me about aw's booking,
and I generally don't have a lot of the problems
that some of the bad faith people online because I
don't think AW does enough to set up number one contenders.
And we've we've already hit on this a couple of times,
and I feel like we do each week who's next?
For this, Who's next? Like they're starting or they had
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been before injuries, getting the main events seen pretty well established,
so we know who the next men but the other titles.
Who's next in line for the tag titles, who's next
in line for the TVs title, Who's next in line
for the TNT title, Who's next in line for the
women's title. We're already talking about maybe adding women's tag belts.
Like Tony does not do a good job establishing contenders,
and I think it time we start using these pay
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per views to put a big Number one's contender match
in it. There's no reason why. And if I'm booking
a show, I would have the number one contenders matches early,
so that always gives you the opportunity at the end
of the show, after the main events sequence having or
setting an ankle off on there. You don't need to
do it every show, but that way we know that
card is going to be there. But I just even
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on the pay per view or I'm sorry, the TV
the week of the pay per view. Like I like
the idea of this live collision. It reminds me of
how Sunday Night Heat used to be for WWE on
Sundays before pay per views. That was their stuff. It's
on regular TV. I think this is brilliant. Get it
on TV. Try to get a couple more buys and
the number one's contender match on that build it up
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on regular TV to give people a reason to tune
into the pre show and then they're gonna know who's
going to be coming in and facing off against the
champ at the end of the show, you know, setting
up the next big match for TV or pay p
review down the line. Like, I really would like to
see them start incorporating that so we know who challenges
are and have a better idea of what the narratives
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are in these divisions. It's it's just still a nagging
thing for me, and I'm really getting think of it.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
See, I missed the power rankings back in the day.
We used to have the aw used to have where
it showed who who was.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, and it's just you're just putting yourself in a
shoebox booking like like that. But I think that the
cool thing is, to your point, we always know who
the top contenders were. I'm fine if they keep something
similar where once a month they remind people based on
you know whatever, here's who we think are the top
three contenders. I don't really care, but just let us
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know who those next people in line are. Because right
now it's just a void.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, we get you know. One of the things that
we should do a long time ago in aw Fanhub
is that every Sunday morning, we used to get together
in a group just like this, and we would do
a uh take every every title and we would do
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a power ranking. Each person would come up with top
five and we would sort it out and together we
would come out with a top five for each title.
And our power rankings I thought were spot on spectacular.
They made sense. They didn't go by wins or losses.
They went by who's hot and who had the most
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heat whatever. Sometimes the rankings were obvious, sometimes they weren't,
but they eventually came to pass. They eventually came to pass.
People that we ranked in those power rankings eventually won
a title, and it would sometimes take months and months
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and months, but it eventually happened. I personally didn't like
the ranking system because it just it had to do
with booking, not had nothing to do with aura. I
guess that's the big biggest thing. The difference between power
rankings and just the rankings is that the rankings don't
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have anything about aura or heat or pops or anything.
You know what I mean. So it didn't take anything.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Someone gets hot, but I mean the way around that though, kels.
Just give them somebody gets hot, then give him wins
on TV. Move them off those rankings, you know, Yeah,
you can do it, It's just the inconsistency made it
hard to keep it. The only time I remember the
rankings even being cool on TV was there was a
match I think it was let me trying to think,
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after the Brit Baker thunder Rosa death match. I think
later that night somebody who was the number one contender
lost and that moved Britt Baker back up and she
came out of the right all beat up. That's the
only time I remember that ever being a significant thing
on TV. And it was a great moment. But like
you got a book for those types of things, and
I just don't think narratively that's worth it. I'm more
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with you. You need to adjust the bild who gets hot.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
You know. And somebody brought up Bozilla and I hate
to say this is I really like Bosilla, but no.
And the reason I say no is simply because you
bring Bozilla in, you know that she's not gonna win,
So what's the point you have to have some kind
of what's gonna happen here? You know, you can't have
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a card for all out where you know what's gonna happen.
I think that's where the strength of the two matches
that are already booked, Christian Cage and Adam Copeland against FDR,
we don't know what's gonna happen. I had. The same
thing can be said about Darby Allen and John Moxley.
We don't know what's gonna happen. But if you put
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Bozilla against Tony Storm, of course Tony Storm's gonna win.
They're not gonna put it on a twenty two year
old stardom woman that has obligations in Japan, and you
know that that's the stick. They've got to have somebody
within the company that can that can fight for these titles.
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And I'm not just talking about the women's titles, but
I'm talking about the tag team titles. I'm talking about
you know, look, you got Wet, you got the tag
team match, it all out already set up. What about Broddo?
You know, what are they gonna do? You've got to
have something for them, and it's got to be good.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
What so I'm thinking about what else they've been setting up.
Clearly they revisited Beckle and Jamie Hater this week, so
we're gonna get that at some point. I don't think
it should be at this pay per view, but I
keep thinking, you know, they seem to be building to
a women's blood and guts five on five. Maybe they
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pull the trigger and do that it all out.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Maybe, Uh, that's it, brings the way for the team.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Yeah, blood and guts, but that was always the men.
There's no reason why the new tradition can be a
woman's button guts it all out and or do whatever,
make it a crazy one, you know, I don't know,
but make it.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
They don't even have to call blooded guts. But you
know it is a blood and guts match exactly. That
they could still do a blooded guts with the men
in what November is how would they usually do it?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
It's I mean, it's clear they've been building up these
two five person factions. So when they pull the trigger,
is it might as well be the pay per view.
I mean, you can set that up this week and
establish that, right, they've got everybody in place already.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, another thing that they can possibly excuse me. Another
thing they could possibly do is uh Hologram versus El Clone,
So I'd like to that. You know. The only thing
is is that they revealed you know that it's aries
that is Hologram's long time rival. He was in gc W.
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Of course in the lucha scene, Triple A Uh. A
W offered of a contract w W WE offered him
a contract. He decided to go with a W. Uh,
so he has signed.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
The only thing is that I've heard that he's got
a small foot injury that he's dealing with, but they
don't expect it to keep him sideline for more than
a week or so.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
He tagged with TOO, I think yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah yeah. Within the last year, he's also had matches
with oh gosh, uh Speedball, Mike Bailey.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Uh, it makes sense, familiar with.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah and Helico. He's uh beast Mortos. Uh that's within
like the last few months with it.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Definitely a good crew, good core, good core people. He's
familiar with.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
A A W is his style is described I've never
seen him wrestle, and I've kind of not wanted to
look him up. Uh, but his style is described as
strange style.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
So I need I need to watch the matches. I guess.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, well you know they say his presentation, his ring
gear is incredible. Uh, and he could definitely go in
the ring. So I'm looking forward to seeing him, and
I'm trying. I know I'm not gonna be able to
do it. I'm gonna end up looking them up, but
I'm trying not to because I want.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
To be surprised. It is fantasy book, this whole thing.
So like Clone or I like pump fom on purpose,
So he comes out dressed up just like Hologram, same
move set, and then just kind of like back in
the night Evil night writer days and stuff if your
friends in the eighties. I think at the very end,
Clone should then be cured. And then we have two
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holograms and they tag team three Harley, Harley Graham. Come on, okay,
there's so any rate. So Hologram converts Clone to Hologram too,
and they form a tag team and you give them
the belt. H yeah, there you go, there you go,
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and the trios put Harley in there yet. Yeah, that's
why I don't do this for a living, everybody, for
for what this guy does.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
I need to look up some matches, so I can
kind of understand where this guy's coming from. But then again,
you know, that's what a lot of people need to
do when they hear Who's Who's New but.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Big animate villain showdown, Like.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, I think where. I don't think that I'm out
of line when I say this, But people that are
going to watch All Out or people that watch a
w are going to walk aw People that are gonna
watch or have watched WWE all this time are probably
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going to watch WWE, especially since you know it's on
the shiny new network ESPN, and you know they have
stacked the card a little bit. My thing with WWE
is they could put out the best stacked card in
the world. They still got to go out there perform,
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and they just don't. They don't. Their shows are slow
and plotting. I mean, Clash in Paris, in my opinion,
was torturous to watch simply because of the pacing. It
just was awful. Now I know they can do it
because I watched Money in the Bank and I love
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the pacing of that show. You know, it just seemed
to flow a lot better. But they with the commercials
and the video packages and everything else like that, it
really your well, at least me, it causes my mind
to drift, and AW just doesn't do that.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
I think what the wweeds the amount of advertising they
sell exactly. I think this is going to be a
slow show because they're gonna have a lot and they're
gonna sell a lot of adds.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
For the show. Oh sure, you know, But look, I
want to make things clear here. I want w W
to succeed and I want a W to succeed. It's
not like I want one to, you know, dismantle the other.
That's not the point, you know. I do want them
both to succeed.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I think that frankly for WW fans, I think that
having Aw's All Out on the same night as Russell
Palooza is going to make hopefully Russell Palusa better show
than it probably would have been other wise, because I
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don't think you would have had this stacked card otherwise
if it wasn't on the same night, It's quite possible
they would have had the show. There was a there
was a topic it you know, Greatness of Wrestling subreddit
where somebody asked, do you think the w w W
(31:25):
will outdraw a W on All Out? Russell pluesa weekend,
and they didn't explain what outdraw is. Is w w
to get more viewers. Of course they are. You know,
are they going to get more fans in the arena.
Probably not, And that's not because they can't. It's because well,
(31:48):
it's because they can't. You know. The the arena for
All Out is simply bigger than the arena for you know,
for Russell Pluza it had it holds like two thousand
and three thousand more seats than Russell Bluees's arena does.
So it just depends on, you know, if if one
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or both of them want to open up some truly
crappy seats just to get the attendance, you know what
I mean. That's my big worry is that one of
these companies is gonna do something stupid like that and
open up seats behind a big screen or a crane
or whatever and or a you know, a video board
whatever just to get the attendance, and then you're gonna
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have people complaining, well, I couldn't see.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
A damn thing, hey, you know, I mean, if the
demand is there and someone will buy him put them up.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, So look, I don't know, it's it's going to
be interesting, and we're gonna be finding out a lot more. Again,
my big question is is whether that one hour show
on September twentieth, starting at seven pm Eastern is going
to be zero hour. If it's going to run in
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conjunction with zero hour, you know, it's.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Just zero I don't think they do too. I think
that's zero hour. I mean that's the show. I don't
if they do a zero hour maybe before and then
they tell them to tune in and just silent ast,
but I don't see him doing too.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Hyeah, they may. They may do a zero hour starting
at like six pm. Maybe I have a couple of
matches on that that had the tailgate. Maybe even do
if it's a true tailgate. I don't see why how
they can call it a tailgate and have a zero
hour at the same time, because tailgate means it's out
in the parking lot.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
But if the rings out in the parking lot, we
all know it.
Speaker 11 (33:39):
Mosly likes to be in the parking lot, so it's
quite Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
But my point is is that you want the fans
in the arena. You don't want the show, the actual
pay per view to start and fans be out in
the parking lot looking at this whatever it is, and
of course fans want to get in and try to
get merch and whatnot. You know, so I just don't
see this tailgate thing working, you know, the way as
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a true tailgate thing. Put it that way.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Maybe they just call it a tailgate because Renee and
RJ City are walking around outside while all the matches
are still inside with the people. Maybe for sure it's Brandy.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Maybe they call it a tailgate because during that show,
Darby Allen back's over to John Moxley with a geep.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
There'll be some comedy bit where our J has to
learn how to grill and he'll be completely overwhelmed and
Renee will have to show him how to do it,
and you know.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
She does.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
All right, Well, let's move on. I know that I
believe it was k that wanted to talk about something.
Am I correct there? Okay, yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I wanted to start with a humble brag and then
end with a point. I have been blessed to go
to many aw shows live and in person. I've been
to every Grand Slam in New York except for the
first one, and I punched myself every day for that.
Been to the Hammerstein, been to Crudential Center, been to
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Ubs Arena, right all that joint and this past Saturday
I was blessed to go to the twenty three hundred
Arena as I was corrected earlier. And it brings into
question the presentation of AAW in these bigger arenas and
stadiums and then bringing it closer to home with these smaller,
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more intimate venues. I'm always a sucker for an intimate venue.
I'm blessed to be living really close to the mecca
out in Jersey, in Ridgefield Park where many indie shows.
It is called the Mega for a reason many indie
shows come through. I've been blessed to see DPW, I
saw Speedball, Brian Keith, J Mallachi, the Workhorseman, yes, both
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of them at the same time, the grizzly young vets
all on the same show, you know, in the same building.
And having that intimacy with an AW show like with
the Workhorsemen again or at least one of them. Just
it's wonderful being that close to the talent. It makes
it feel more real that FTR match. I'm still like
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shaking from the way that the crowd was reverberating. And
I'm also sad because as a New Yorker, I'm not
getting another Grand Slam. But my beloved, who you know,
we go to the shows together all the time. He
put into question, He's like, you remember the last Grand
Slam we went to and how kind of empty it was.
How they they're not really selling as many tickets. And
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I think it's a really smart decision that they're bringing
the talent and the fans closer together with these smaller
venues with cheaper ticket prices. Because I was up against
the barricade for maybe fifty bucks a pop. Yeah, all
out wrestlers. I flipped off Dax Harwood, and I know
he saw me. You know, I really appreciate them bringing
the fans and the talent closer together in these small spaces,
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and I hope that they continue to do it with
venues across the country, not just at twenty three hundred,
but like everywhere else.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, So a W has done some a lot of shows,
residencies Hammerstein, Hammerstein E Sports Stadium in these smaller venues.
What do you guys think of these? Do you enjoy them?
And if you do, what's your favorite? Which one's your favorites.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
I go ahead.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Sorry, no, you're pro You're fine. But yeah, I've liked
a intimate wrestler show since uh Ring of Honor used
to come through and do shows at the Express, which
is like a smaller venue, uh sort of nearby the
main arena, the main arena district here in Columbus. It's
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a great place for like smaller concerts and shows. I
nearly had. I nearly had a pre AW Cody Roads
uh Through throw Minero Suzuki into my lap during one
of those shows. That also one of those shows where
(38:31):
I first met Kenny Omega. So I am all for
I am all for a more inter venue, and I
would love for AW to do a residence to get
the Express if they can. I don't know how big
of a market wrestling market Columbus is, but I would
love them to come by for a while.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Not were you going to say something?
Speaker 11 (38:53):
Yeah, I was gonna say that I like the small venues.
I like them a lot. Being that close to the
action to the wrestlers. Going to the independent shows here
in Seattle, I've seen a lot of the AW talent
of close and personal, being able to talk with them
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and interact with them. The favorite that AW has done
for me is when they were in Chicago at that
Aragon Ballroom, because I've been there, I'm from Chicago, and
I loved that. I'm really enjoying them now being at
the twenty three hundred because I used to watch ECW
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and it just brings back a lot of those memories
for me of the first time I became a wrestling fan.
It's almost like seeing it happen all over again, and
I just I love it. It has that feel. That's what
I like about AAW in general, is it has that
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feel of independent wrestling and you can be close to
the wrestlers and talk to them and interact with them.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
And like, k.
Speaker 11 (40:13):
Yeah, yeah, it's a few bucks and if in a
really good time. So yeah, Well.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I wanted to bring something up here because you know,
a lot of what's Ben said is I was there.
What about the TV presentation? Do you like the way
it's presented on TV as well? I didn't.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Yes.
Speaker 11 (40:38):
I like seeing the crowd and seeing everyone have such
a good time. It's it's just that sense of belonging
kind of So yeah, I like it.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
You know, go ahead, Sorry, Yeah, being able to actually
see people's face because like whenever you're watching eight show normally,
like there's always going to be that area that's blacked out.
There's always going to be those people up at the
top that you can't see that you know, are there
and we can't see what they like, what they're feeling.
But at the eascat the twenty three hundred arena, there's
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you can see everybody's face. You could see everybody's reaction,
and nobody's blacked out, nobody's you know, washed out, and
you could feel that interaction through the screen.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
You know.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
The one thing that is the downside is the audio,
because I guarantee you that however loud it was on
television during that FTR match, it was probably a thousand times.
I couldn't even hear the promo. I couldn't seen I
had to watch it on YouTube just to hear it.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Yeah, I want to talk a little bit about kind
of pulling back from aw a bit here, because just
listening to everybody and the feeling and the emotion and
the touch and the intimacy. Depending on how old you are,
you may have started watching wrestling in an era where
they still had studio shows and those studio shows would
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only have it'd be a camera side and you'd have
just just like n XT, very similar to how NXT
does it. It's a studio show, but it was like Rafters, right,
and you could go to the local whatever Georgia Championship
and like those was your TV. And they would build
to the big weekend stadium shows, which the equivalent to
pay per views today. So wrestling in and of itself
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through television has carried that intimacy that a lot of
us in this fondness that we have. Even for WCW
Saturday Night, you'd see them in their studio shows a lot.
You'd see all the fans there and it was cool.
And even through AW, in my opinion, their real formative era,
which was during COVID, that was in essence an intimate
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studio show. You know, we had some fans there, but
it was really a lot of the times just the
performers and family and friends around the ring, hooton and hollerance.
So a lot of aw's history and presentation is that
small audience and me coming back to some of these
smaller arenas capture some of that fondness. I remember AW
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kept me saying through the covid Era and I'm getting
some of that warm feeling again because if I have
an opportunity to see them in a cool place like
they were just in Chicago, or the Fox Theater or
not the Fox Theater, they may is not Exemple in
Detroit or the twenty three hundred arena they're at now
versus you know, fifteen hundred, two thousand people in a
ten thousand Steed stadium where everything's dark, Like, give me
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something interesting to look at on TV. And now that
they're doing this, I'd like them to actually do a
five minute segment on the history of the building and
why it's cool, interview local stuff. I think that's a
real missed opportunity you're visiting, especially with these residencies, Embrace that,
embrace the city, Educate our fans and fans of this promotion,
why you're here and why this is a cool venue
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and what there is to love about it. I think
there's a real opportunity there.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
They should totally do that at Hammerstein when I go.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
That's my favorite one I've done so far, Just so
awesome on TV.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
I think that's a really dope idea and ship like
they always come back for the homecoming shows A daily Place,
Daily place, like, that's a goal of mine to catch
an a W show where that was home that was
home for the Coche.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Lucky Yeah, doing that again.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
I want to go too, and then the Daily first.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
The only person that hasn't talked about this, Uh, what
is your opinion? Sacked?
Speaker 9 (44:29):
I think mostly my opinion is I used to watch
like like really small indie companies back in the day,
like CZW, like the old school CZW, old School of Honor,
and like, yeah, I didn't even I didn't even grow
grow pro wrestling. It's like I'm like, I kind of
like I'm kind of used to seeing like kind of
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like kind of used to seem like people like in
small venues.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah. I mean the way I look at it is
when they announced they were doing a registy in Arley
Residency Boy in Arlington last year before all In at
the Esports Stadium, I was, you know, I was like, Okay,
I loved it, you know, And I loved that they
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did the Esports Stadium. I love the Hammerstein, I love
the Aragon, you know, I loved all these places. I
have to admit, though, I can't wait for them to
get out of the twenty three hundred. I just do
not like that place. It just does not translate on
TV at all. It looks like they're in a parking garage.
(45:43):
I'm sorry, it does. It looks cheap. It looks cheap
and awful to me. That's just me.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
It's the perfectly okay take. Man.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
You know I can't wait for me to get out
and it's nothing to do. And well it may have
something to do with that. I hate everything Philadelphia. Oh
that's fair.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
That's very fair. I hated phil every second I was
in Philadelphia. But you were absolutely right. It does not
translate like being there and then watch like watching the
Dynamite to figure out where my seats were, and then
being there in the arena and like feeling it two
completely different things night and day. And it's so like
I wish I could capture that feeling in a bottle
and give it to you, Kelsey.
Speaker 7 (46:24):
Because I only live I only live about a couple
hours away from the twenty three hundred, and even leading
up to that, my daughter had called me and she said, hey,
are you gonna go to the any of the shows
in Philadelphia? And the way she said it I kind
of felt like her my my son in law were
(46:44):
gonna like buy me tickets to go see aw at
the twenty three hundred, and I was like, you could
not give me tickets to go see that show. I
will not go to Philadelphia for anything. I went to Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Several years ago to see a I think it was
either a Thursday night or a Saturday night football game.
May have been Monday night. It wasn't on a Sunday.
Maybe it was a Sunday night. It was a nighttime
game at the old Veterans Stadium, and I took a
(47:22):
limo down because I refused to have to be standing
out there with those ass hats that are Philadelphians. I'm sorry,
I hate you all.
Speaker 5 (47:33):
Riding through it. Lanes are a suggestion, like lanes are
a suggestion, and then sometimes there isn't even any indication
that there's two lanes, and people are just coming at
me and like, oh, I didn't even know, like you know,
people just don't. I don't know what's going on out there, man,
something's in the water.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
I off a joke, you know, just as like you know,
there was a news report that an atomic bomb fell
in the United States and accidentally detonated. How about like,
oh no, it was horrible. Where was that at Philadelphia?
Be like, oh okay, no loss. As long as they evacuated,
just destroyed the city doesn't matter to me. Let's move on,
(48:12):
because this tell you what Booker t and the Gummy Bears.
I don't even I don't even know where to begin
with this, he says. He this is the reason why
he doesn't watch you know, this is why he doesn't
watch any W. Yet he was in w c W
(48:35):
and WWE when they were doing some of the dumbest,
dumbest shit.
Speaker 5 (48:42):
You know, the first thing I show a person from WWE,
all right, is, you know, the birth of Mark Henry's son.
I don't think that that would give them many reasons
to watch WW. I don't think they're taking a comedy spot.
It's especially as somebody who's never won, who doesn't watch
(49:02):
the product, to take a comedy spot out of context
and think that take it seriously a face value, like
you don't want and you admit you don't watch the product.
I'm not gonna take your opinion seriously when I don't
watch the product. When you all start talking about w W,
I mute myself because I don't talk about things I
don't know.
Speaker 12 (49:21):
Yeah, I mean, but you know, look, go ahead, I
was gonna say what Booker despite, you know, like along
with having no sense of humor, what he's missing is
the gummy beers that were a punchline to a joke
that was set up at the beginning of the show.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
He's getting half the joke, so of course he's confused
and doesn't think it's fun though I would think it
would be funny anyway, what does he know?
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yeah, you're talking about I mean, look very it's Booker
t the the Spooter Spinner Room, which was a harmless
but rather stupid thing, you know, and don't forget the
supermarket brawl.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
I that this is. This is a reoccurring theme with
WWE media because it's part of a framing they're trying
to do for AW right now, and that framing is
that AW is silly. It doesn't take wrestling silly. It's
the joke promotion. They're jokers. They're look at Orange Cassidy,
look at the Young Bucks. They're ruining everything. It's all
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fun and games. We're the serious promotion, serious wrestling, and
they do dumb stuff on TV now, like comedy belongs
in pro wrestling. But that is part of a narrative
that they have been pushing on aw for a while.
I don't really care, but Booker T says it. They've
said it on the Bubble Ray podcasting. He does. Conan
says in a new show. It's in interviews like this
(50:53):
is just this is a thing that they do. And
Booker T. I find him fun as a character. It's like,
but whatever, man like to just this point, it's it's
a joke that was set up earlier in the show.
People are allowed to laugh. If you were uncomfortable with
people having fun and pro wrestling, that's a that's a
(51:14):
new problem, that's not the promotions problem.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yeah. Well look the Gummy Bear spot took all of
what ten seconds from beginning to end? They opened the bad.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
This is a multi week story of humiliation.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
This is like the story exactly ten seconds. The other
stuff like giving birth to a hand at the Supermarket
Brawl and all the kisses on all the asses from
you know that Vince McMahon had. These were long segments.
I mean, come on, you know, look, but then to
be fair, you know, I think it was about a
(51:54):
week or so ago. Uh, they asked Mercedes Monette about
WWE and she said something to the effect of, I
don't watch it. I don't care about it. Well, look,
she does watch it, she does care about it. She's
in character when she's saying this. So you've also got
(52:15):
to kind of take things with a grain of salt,
you know. But let's face it. You know, Booker t
is a WWE guy, and he can sleep through all
the WWE Sigman said he wants and it's no skin
off my back. Anybody else have a comment to make
(52:38):
about they gummy Bear spot.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
To be honest, I haven't.
Speaker 9 (52:44):
I probably haven't seen like NXT in like in a
little bit ever since they changing to NXT two point zero.
But I remember, like in a comedy of wrestling. I
think I remember like when ww TO do to comedy wrestler.
I mean, I only see like two people are truth
who's like one of the probably the best comedy wrestlers,
(53:07):
you know, the man and probably and probably a little
bit of a Eugene.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Yeah, I kind of like Santina Morella. You had to
go there too, and I thoroughly enjoyed Santina Morella. You
know I'm Italian, so I was just he just cracked
me up, just just a mispronounced mispronunciation of the names
cracked me up, you know.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
But anyway, champion.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Yeah, Look, somebody at the Greatness of Wrestling Subreddit posted
who are the best comedy wrestlers right now? And frankly speaking,
they posted pictures.
Speaker 10 (53:48):
Of the of the uh of.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
The choices, and there's you know, you had your r
truth and some other guys. Tony Storm was the only
represent of a w on that entire list. Well, if
aw is so freaking funny, then why not have you
know more? There's far more people, you know, silly if
(54:15):
you think about it, there's far more silly people in
w w E than there is an a Wink on
the list. But again, you're talking look to be fair,
you're talking about WWE fans. Okay, WWE fans. There's two
(54:40):
types of people in this world on on Reddit, and
that's professional wrestling fans and WWE fans. WWE fans don't
watch anything but WWE. And that's just a plain and
honest truth. Uh, it's not one hundred percent true, but
(55:03):
it is majorly true. And you know, so they make
comments about AW AW, and they're talking in the super
past tense. Do you remember when you know this happened?
I was like, and I'm thinking to myself, are you
talking about something that happened four years ago? Yeah, you know,
(55:25):
or five years ago? This doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 5 (55:30):
And you know, and not to put on like a
tinfoil hat or anything, but I like, I know that
there's a lot of specifically WW influencers out there, and
it feels like their sole purpose is to always make
some kind of jab towards AW for whatever, Like it
could be a completely unrelated video to AW, and like
(55:50):
I'll hear a side comment or you know, and like
little things like that repeated over time, you know, it
starts to stick with people and it makes people not
want to watch other And it's like, you know a
little trigger, like you just associate negativity with AW and
I just see it consistently. I just block people whose
job it is to bash a company. You can talk
(56:11):
positively about WW, but you don't have to, you know,
do a hook.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
I agree with you because people, you know, like I
said on the subreddits that I moderate, anytime you have
a a W topic, you know, it's there's somebody gonna
make a comment and you're like, just look at their comment,
and you're like, they don't they don't know what they're
talking about. They honestly don't know what they're talking about.
(56:40):
And they think they're being clever, but they're just being stupid.
They're outing themselves as idiots. I'm sorry to say it,
but it's the truth, you know. I mean, it's like
me talking about no breastfeeding. I have a breastfed. I
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don't know what it's like.
Speaker 5 (57:02):
AW doesn't tell stories is the biggest lie I've ever
heard in my life.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Ye.
Speaker 5 (57:09):
People always want to use that and it's not true.
It's propaganda.
Speaker 3 (57:14):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
One of the things that if you there is some
truth to that comment, but it's not in the way
that it may people may think. If you're tuning into
a program and you're watching a match and you don't
know the history of the competitors or why this match
is going on, and it's not recapped, it doesn't seem
(57:38):
like there's any story here. And one of the things
that AW has really struggled with is the recap package.
It's not always just for new viewers, it's for week
to week two, like I'm going to forget details. They've
been like, I need to understand why this thing happened
because there's going to be a callback spot later and
I want to be reminded of it. You know. AW
started to do that, and as they've started to do
(58:01):
recaps before big matches of pay per views, they've done
recap promotional videos as a way to give a break
during TV. Now they're they're including more of those. I'm
seeing that narrative that they don't tell stories start to
calm down a little bit, and I think a lot
of that is because people are reminded, oh, yeah, this
is something that's been going on for a few weeks now,
and AW did not do that historically also, so.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
People yeah, like they all the time.
Speaker 3 (58:29):
Yeah, it's a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
Well, one of the things that a w one of
the things that AW does and has relied on in
the past not so much anymore, is in ring storytelling.
They tell a story in the ring, and I don't
think WWE fans get that because and I will say
(58:52):
this because I have watched some of the wwepols recently
and in matches. I'll give you an example of a
couple of matches that have taken place, and that's Becky
Lynch versus Lera Valkyria. They did a tremendous amount of
in ring storytelling, and I thoroughly they weren't like, oh wow,
(59:16):
these are five star matches, but I enjoyed the matches
because of it, and some of the WWE fans that
I've seen posting about it did not like the matches.
Now that's well and fine, but I think that WWE
fans don't like the inn ring storytelling. And to your point, Barry,
I do agree with you that they need to make
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out of the ring storytelling a lot better, and they
have done a lot better, especially in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (59:44):
Yeah, good growth this year. Room to go, but they're
moving in the rad direction for sure.
Speaker 6 (59:48):
But Jess, Yeah, I was just gonna say, like I
think both me and you, Barry, were both like just
in awe of how good that one MJF promo was
last week. Like I think it was a two three
minute promo, and he got so much across, Like just
from that little snippet you could tell through the emotion
(01:00:11):
he was conveying like he's miserable, he does not want
to be in this position, but he keeps self sabotaging
himself because he can't help but be an asshole.
Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Yeah right, there's two, maybe three performers in pro wrestling
that could have done what he did last week on TV.
And that's frankly, it's because he's an actor now like
he acted in his youth. He's always done shows and
stuff like that. But that's acting, you know, that's not
just pro wrestling, Nick, that's acting. That was a legit
(01:00:44):
thing and I was just so impressed with the delivery
from that promo. There are not a lot of people
in the business that could have done that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Yeah, well, let's move on to our pot p resection.
Our po pre resection is one where we can be
up a topic that's just on our mind in the
world of pro wrestling, and we'll discuss it or not.
You may just want to vent something, not necessarily discussion,
but just to get it off your mind. Anybody have
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a potpourri that they want to talk about?
Speaker 6 (01:01:18):
Uh yeah, kind of I just heard this today. Kind
of sad news, I'm afraid. Kurt Angle was recently on
Mister Kennedy Kennedy's podcast, and he mentioned that as much
as people would love for him to have one more match.
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He cannot. He cannot because he needs to have both
so basically both shoulders are placed.
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:01:48):
Yeah, he's in really bad shape. And I just felt
bad because kurd Angle is just awesome. Show me somebody,
show me somebody who says they don't like kurd Angle,
and I'll show you a liar.
Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Well, he does suck, you know, I mean the fans
all say he does.
Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
He sucks. Kurt Angle was special, he was he was.
Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
I thoroughly enjoyed Kurt Angle. Yeah, anybody anybody else have one?
Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
Well, you know the thing with to continue on with that,
I think kurd Angle and other professional wrestlers they've kind
of shifted the culture a little bit. And I've noticed that,
like nowadays, wrestlers are taking care of themselves a lot
better than how they used to, because now they're really
thankfully thanks to like the social media era of professional
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wrestling that we're in right now, Like you don't need
to work as grueling of you know, as gruling of
a shift as being a wrestler once was, you know,
and that's why these guys are so banged up and hurting,
you know. And fortunately, but nowadays, like You're starting to
see people taking better care of themselves. You like the
Missolod situation that saved Juna Kiyama's life, you know, because
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after that happened, he got himself checked out and realized
that he had a next issue. And that's why he's
still with us and still fighting, you know, and so active.
It's always the lesson of what not to do, and
it's you know, unfortunate, But I'm happy that he's still
open and he's still engages with the professional wrestling scene,
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you know, and it would be a you know, amazing
miracle to see him in the radia.
Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
All right, Well, is there anybody else of the potpourri?
When go ahead that?
Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (01:03:46):
I was gonna say, when is christ Jericho gonna grace
us with his presence?
Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Gosh, you know you miss him.
Speaker 11 (01:03:55):
It's been long enough where I'm starting to miss Chris Jericho.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
I am missing not the learning Tree, but I am missing.
Speaker 11 (01:04:08):
Yeah, I'm missing Christ Jericho a bit. So it might
be time to get him back on TV.
Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Bring back the Judas. Yeah, I got go for it.
Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
So if you are a fan of birds like I am,
you may have heard of a product called the Bird Buddy.
The bird Buddy is basically a webcam on a bird feeder,
and it's one there's other products just like it with
different companies nam but anyways, you can get a solar
powered one. It's Wi Fi and you can look up
your phone. You can watch all the neighborhood birds that
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come up and eat. Well. Just recently the bird Buddy
too was announced, and if you are a fan of
this type of thing, I encourage you to check it out.
So they improved the solar panel and the battery. Wi
Fi reception has been improved. They redid the perch a
little bit so you have some better viewing angles. The
cameras a little better at knowing when to record because
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one of the current problems is that records are the late,
so you don't always get the birds when they fly up.
So a bunch of new improvements. So if you're a
birder like I am, and you know you're like watching
the neighborhood birds come up, check out the bird Buddy too.
I think it's supposed to come out this at all.
Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
I knew you were for the birds. Thank you for
for confirming.
Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
It not not a sponsored add either.
Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Just does anybody else have a fo Ferri.
Speaker 6 (01:05:36):
Yeah, well we're shilling. I know I already did one,
but this is just like I am a fan of
Wrestle Talk. They've been like my favorite wrestling news outlet
for quite a while. And Ollie Davis from Wrestle Talk
is just put out a new novel. It's always been
his dream to be a novelist. He just puts basically
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a comedy sci fi black mirror ish type thing. It's
not even my genre. But I actually bought a copy
off Amazon today because I want to. I like him,
I want you to support I want to support his
endeavors because it's my dream to be a novelist.
Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Too cool time for wrestling. Hat one in the chat
and I'm gonna read it too, and I'm sorry if
I mess this up. He says. This is sort of
a random one, but with the NJPW Super Junior Tag
League presumably coming up during the KOPW Tour and World
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Tag League following that, who would you all like to
see aw send over? If they do send anyone for me,
I would love to see top Flight or Crew or
SJTL Workhorsemen or girzeledjung Vets or WTL, and I gotta
admit that a couple of those I have no idea
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who those are because I was reading them and couldn't
translate them. Who is s J t L and who
is WTL? Oh, I have no idea.
Speaker 9 (01:07:12):
Shane Taylor Promotions.
Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
No, it's not that one.
Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Oh that's for Super Trigger Tag League. Okay, okay, Workhorseman, Okay,
who's WTL World Tag League? Okay? Never mind? Uh yeah,
I mean that would be interesting. I like one of
the strengths right now of a w's getting, you know,
thank you Mercedes money. I guess for showing that this
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could be successful is going global, So I'm all for it.
Speaker 6 (01:07:51):
I wouldn't mind seeing the crew represent ae W. I
sort of got a new appreciation for their work watching
them in the pre show match for Forbidden Door. I
love their style. They swarm like nats. It's great.
Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
They're very watched. Well, anybody else with the potpourri, I
do go ahead.
Speaker 9 (01:08:20):
So I recently watched Deaf before dishonored this last week,
and well, and well, I'm well, I haven't watched an
R o H pay per view like in forever, and
but the two matches that I found like really fascinated
about was woll was MHM Samygavara defending won Samvara versus
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the outrunners for the r H World Tagting Championships. Of
course Dustin Dustin Rose is injured right now, so his
new partner is Rush from Loss and Gravin's boss de
fact de factome.
Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Yes, so I think it was.
Speaker 9 (01:09:04):
Great to see Sandy as a heel again. He definitely
needs it.
Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
And then I think so too.
Speaker 9 (01:09:14):
And the other two matches that carried is well Afena
in the main event of Fena defending her rh Women's
World Championship against minas Me shak uh Kala, Yeah, sure, Kyla,
which it was a really fun match, fun storytelling. And
also also Ifa is going to make it over a
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thousand days as r H Women's World Champion.
Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
This week. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (01:09:45):
And then for the art and and then the r
OH World Championship, we had a fun and it was
it was a fun luchador match between Bandido and Yeah,
that's Aero yet Hannasaro. That was really that was really fundable.
Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Yeah, I mean that pay per view. I don't know
how you felt, but I thought the pay per view
got it to a really slow start. Those those last
two matches A Theta versus Mina Shirakawa and Bandito versus
Ecta Sarah were masterpieces. They were just flat out masterpieces.
I'm sorry, loved every second of them. And I also
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have to get a shout out to Paul Walter Houser.
I mean, this guy was gassed after like forty five seconds.
He was sucking win and but he kept going and
he they did hold back. Did you guys see that match?
Have you seen that match?
Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Bar?
Speaker 11 (01:10:42):
Yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
It was something to behold I wouldn't call it really good.
It was a garbage match, but what a garbage match
it was. That's yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 6 (01:10:53):
They I just liked them together, so it's it's good
for me.
Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Yeah yeah, uh so, I guess I'll wrap it up
with my own pote poriri And I hate to go
out on a downer, but I've got to. While we're
recording this, it is September two, twenty twenty five, and
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in Japan, however, it is already September third, twenty twenty five,
which happens to be Hana Kamira's birthday. And I just
wanted to you know, say happy birthday to Hanna Kamura
and to all of her fans. We unfortunately lost Hannah.
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She took her old own life in twenty twenty and
got what we missed in the wrestling world and probably
just based on her personality, what we missed in the
real world just can't be replaced. Bullies. She was bullied
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as her whole life for being of a mixed race
Japanese and Indonesian. She was bullied by internet fans, not
even for something in wrestling, So it wasn't internet fans
that bullieder. I mean internet wrestling community fans a bullieder,
but a fan of a reality show she was on
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where just an unfortunate thing that was not her fault
in any way, shape or form, ended up taking her
own life. Double her Nothing twenty twenty took place one
day after had a camera took her own life and
Excalibur said something. They did a tribute to her, and
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EXCaliber said one sentence that resonates, and I want everybody
to realize this. Maybe if one person just takes a
step back and says, maybe I shouldn't type this on
the internet, maybe I shouldn't do this.
Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
But what.
Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Ex caliber said was if Hannahkamier's honor, please everyone be
nicer to one another. And that's the show for tonight.
We'll be back tomorrow night after Dynamite for all the talks.
So please join us for our Dynamite review show. It's
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a quick hitting show. We don't talk for very long,
but we cram a lot into about twenty to twenty
five minutes. We have a lot of fun. I hope
you had fun tonight. Guys forty aw fanha podcast team.
This is Kelson. Good night everybody, and good night and
Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Be easy.