AEW Hot Topics | Strickland, Ospreay Out - Who Steps Up? - Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And nine Cognition five four three two one zero.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
ignition with the ae W fan podcast team. We just
saw from the O to Arena in London, Forbidden Door
and Boy After Forbidden Door, all kinds of news dropped. Well,
some things we already knew about, but we're gonna talk
about some of the things the hot topics in a W.

(00:46):
A little bit later, we're gonna talk about Mercedes Monette
and Tony Storm. We're gonna have a great pot pore segment,
I believe, but we're gonna start out with by well,
by the time you hear this, we're Strickland may have
already gone under the knife for surgery on his torn meniscus.
And of course we know that will Osprey is going

(01:08):
to require next surgery. We don't know when he's having it,
but look, both Swerve and will Osprey, will Osprey particularly
is going to probably be out a lot longer. They're
gonna both miss time in AAW. And now it's next
man up. Well, next woman up too doesn't necessarily mean

(01:28):
that a woman or women can't step up and take
charge of AW. So the question is which wrestlers do
you think will put a wander back and charge forward
while Osprey and Strickland are out.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
I have an interesting suggestion. Does anybody here watch Being
the Elite? Basically the latest episode of Being the Elite
had a Matt and Nick moping on the couch and
at one point they received a call from one Jack
Perry that they ignored. But Jack Perry has officially been

(02:08):
breathed into like the consciousness of people anyway, get the
people who watch Being dealt anyhow, But I would love
to see a Jack Perry return.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, who else, guys?

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Well, there are some returns coming back from here from healing,
and Orange Cassidy of one of them comes back.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
But I hope he.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
I hope he has a freshly squeezed turn of gimmick,
a little bit he needs, he needs.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
He's become a little stale.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, well, you know, go ahead, Berry. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I think Orange will be Orange is gonna be fun
when he comes back, which according to the Post today,
I think is imminent because towards the end of his
running he was getting a little edgier. He was not
he was less reserved about losing his cool, and that'll
be fun. Kelson. You mentioned women, and one of the
things that we've talked about on the pod a lot

(03:04):
is just how strong and how deep the women's division
has gotten. And when you talk depth, you've got eight ten.
You can probably argue twelve active women on the roster
on TV every week doing or involved in legitimate feuds.
The only thing really holding back that division for being
supercharged at the moment is having one more segment on TV.

(03:29):
And if I'm looking at any group ready to step up,
I think there's more than enough men to cover it.
You've got a good amount of depth there. Even though
the big time babyfaces are gone. I think they're okay,
but putting the company on the back for the time being,
you don't need to necessarily build a new male star.
You just need to accentuate some of the existing female
stars you've got with another segment, and that could easily

(03:50):
eat up a match that will Or score was going
to be in, or a backstake cement that will Or
swore was going to be in. If I'm Tony, I'm
looking to get a part of my company that has
proven they can draw when needed, They're not going to
draw the same way. Maybe a swerve in osprey matches,
but you can put them on as a main event
on a collision or a dynamite. You give that women
another segment, and I think that's where the answer is

(04:12):
for a lot of the depth they need to look
to right now.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I agree and Ed, well, look it really you've got
the depth. But one of the complaints I've seen about
the women's division is all these six women, eight women,
you know, tag team matches. Let's feature to women for
what they are, good wrestlers on their own at their
own right now. I can understand maybe Jamie Hayterer needs

(04:36):
to be in a tag team match. There's there's a
talk of Ruby Soho coming back because she's training now,
she'll probably have to be in tag team matches. But
you know, you could say the same thing possibly for
Orange Cassidy, maybe Jack Perry, even because we don't know
why he was out there, they said they just in

(04:58):
that creative form that he's not her, you know what
I'm saying. So we can ease people back in because
there is depth on both the men's and women's side. Storm,
what are you thinking about this?

Speaker 6 (05:14):
I'm really excited for Orange Cassidy to come back. Actually,
I think he'd be fantastic. And he's coming off with
you said he wasn't coming off of an injury.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Right, He's coming off a torn pectoral from what I understand,
that was from.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
Like forever ago. And he's been gone for like a
real long time too.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, five months it's been since he's had a match,
really really a little a little over five months.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
I feel like it's been longer than that. But I'm
excited for him to come back. I'm actually really hoping
that Pequsha is gonna start turning face. Yeah, how's family,
and then we can get kin like straight up in
the front because fans loved him, but they hate Don Kallas.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Right. Well, you know what, Storm, It's interesting you brought
up ta Kesha because we did a poll, not a poll,
we did a discussion topic about this on the aw
Fantom subreddit, and overwhelmingly people wanted Takesha to step up. Mkay.
You know what, Before we started the podcast, we were
talking a little bit about Orange Cassidy. Look, I think

(06:25):
and I said this, Orange Cassidy is a fantastic talent.
He's athletic, he's got charisma, he's got the skill However,
that being said, I was a little down on Orange
Cassidy for quite a while for two reasons. One is
I believe that he's overused. Well, he was overused, and

(06:50):
that's something that I think that, like with Barry said,
aw has depth. They can't rely on one or two wrestlers.
They got to utilize the depth that they have because
if they don't, it just gets stale because you're seeing
the same thing over and over again. The other thing
that I really don't didn't like about Orange Cassidy is

(07:13):
that damn fruit roll up. He can't win matches with
that move, you know, ninety percent of the time and
be interesting. I'm sorry because he gets a snot beat
out of him for fifteen minutes and then roll up
and it's over. He didn't win the match, he got lucky.
I want to see Orange Cassidy win a match, not

(07:34):
squeak by with the win on a match. Does that
make any sense?

Speaker 5 (07:37):
That's kind of what money is doing as well right now?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Kind of yeah, you know, but you know, look you've
got also you know, as Barry was saying again about
the depth, Keith Lee may couldn't maybe come back. We
just saw Lucasaurus come back. There's other guys. I mean,
we're not going to see Jay White, We're not going
to see Austin or as a cult. I can't remember

(08:04):
which gun has hurt. You know, we're not going to
see them for a while. We're obviously not going to
see Squirre, Strickland and will Osprey. You know.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
So who's the new guy they just signed? Kelson? He
just stayed there on Collision.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
And that's.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
There's a there's a fun one. I get a lot
of I get a lot of jet Speed what's his name,
Kevin Knight. I get a lot of Kevin Knight vibes.
As far as when Kevin Knight came into the men's division,
immediately juiced them up with a performer that can go
out there and really work with any style. I think
he's extremely versatile. They lucked out putting him in a

(08:44):
team with Mike Bailey, and I think that's been fun.
But I get a lot of I get a lot
of those same vibes, and I was totally forgetting about him.
We could think about somebody to step up. I know
he's new, but this is opportunity for new, new fresh
faces to your point, we're getting something interesting. It's going
to perk our interests a little more than somebody who's
just been on the shelves that we've already seen before.

(09:04):
You get behind some new talent juice and put him
in some exciting matches. He's already they already to throw
the kitchen sink to beat him when he was out
there against Ricochet, so they debuted him looking really small.
I would develop that. I would develop that.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, well you mentioned Ricochet Ricochet. A lot of the
people on that aforementioned aw Fan Hubb discussion topic, we're
really pushing brody king. They want to see brody king,
and I can't disagree with that obviously. Bandido, maybe we
see more action in the tag team division on the

(09:38):
men's side. Maybe we see a women's tag team division.
Actually belts come out out of this look you've got
Isila don just came out. You know, maybe she comes
in and she works. You know, you can never have
enough good talent, especially when you know wrestling is one

(10:01):
of those things that injuries happen, and to combat that,
you can give people time off. It would be great
to see a Karoshida come back. It would be great
to see Rijo comeback. Maki Edo was just announced this
morning that her contract with Tokyo Joshi Pro Wrestling is up.

(10:24):
She is a free agent. Come on, guys, maki Edo.
Can you imagine maki death kill in a w as
a performer. I made a point earlier as like have
Harley Cameron and Machiedo as a team, with Harley Cameron
translating for machi Edo with a puppet, a machi Edo

(10:44):
puppet and frankly just getting everything wrong, you know, and
Machio speaks enough English to say that's not what I said,
you know kind of thing, and just have all these
you know, I want to see stuff like that. Then
you've got the women's division in Dakota Kai. She's available.
Lena Cross, who I thought was spectacular when she was

(11:06):
on what was a collision a couple of weeks ago,
two or three weeks ago and people were actually calling
for her. And then on the men's side, Look, we
talked about carrying Cross and Michael Loku get get them.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
If there's some one out there, Cross is the one
that I'm just like.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
I kind of backed off Cross a little bit myself
after his interview with Ariel Howane or whatever his name is.
I think he wants to use what a would use
a W as a springboard to go back to w
W even after he treated him so badly.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
He was in character, though. I think you have to
keep in mind that, you know, you look at a
lot of these interviews, especially with Ariel Hawane, because he
famously has people in character. Uh, Mercedes Monete just did
a thing where she had an interview where she said

(12:08):
she doesn't watch a WW and doesn't pay attention to it.
You actually post about Bailey Matches all the time on
what's going on with her friends out at WWE. She's
in character. You have to keep that in mind. Carrying
Cross is going to be in character as well, because
that's his character.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I get that. My hesitation is the track record of
former WWAE people who it's pretty clear that's all they
view is the big time and when they've come into
aw and Cross as a prime example of this, in
my opinion, they're not looking to do anything specific there.
They're going to be worrying about who they lose to
so that they can look as good as possible and

(12:46):
ideally get back to the FED. I don't knock them
for that perfectly. Okay, your career objectives are your career objectives.
But if I'm developing a team, and I think you've
seen this without much slower and more selective he's been
on hiring any other WWE detailing or while if you're
building a long term team, you don't want to invest
in people where that risk is there. It's happened too
often so far, and I think he's somebody that needs

(13:09):
to cook for a while before you really take a
look at him.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not championing carrying across by any means,
shape or form, and I agree with you. You know, Look,
wrestling is pro wrestling. Wins and losses don't make you
a superstar. What you do with the ring, whether you
win to lose, makes you a superstar. So you know,
you get guys and we've had them in AW that

(13:32):
came from WEWE and are no longer with AW anymore
that you can kind of tell they weren't going to
take a pin from an AAW lifer, you know what
I mean. So you know, I'll leave that out there,
So I don't know. Look, when it comes to this

(13:53):
replacing will Osprey and replacing swer Strickland face it that's
not going to happen, Okay, But I do want to
ask everybody a question to address this. Strickland and Osprey
are babyfaces. You know. Jack Perry, for example, that Jess
brought up is not a babyface. You know. Do you think,

(14:17):
like say, Jack Perry came back, do you think that
he would have to become a babyface to be viable
or can we use more heels even it does, it
does not have to be by the way, It doesn't
have to be one on one. In other words, we
don't need one person to step up for Osprey and

(14:38):
one person to step up for Strickland. We can use
five people, ten people to step up for a w.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
When you guys think about this interject, I want to
point out, I don't think it's a coincidence that aw's
rised this year as coincided with very strong babyfaces emerging
for the first time in a while. Think about that
when we're when we're thinking about this A really good question, but.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, I think sorry, no, I I was thinking about
that after I said Jack Perry. I think I think
he's a stronger heel. I wouldn't turn him face. Although
now that Lucasaurus is back. I refuse to call him

(15:23):
kill switch. That's really Stupidaurus. I may be an edgy
Jurassic Express reunion, but as for faces, I think you
like mentioned something just in passing a little earlier, Kelson,
it would be great. This is a prime time if

(15:43):
he's ready for Keith Lee to come back, because we've
got all these new people who may not be familiar
with him, and I can't imagine how like how blown
away they they will be when they see him performed,
Like seeing a Keith Lee match for the first time
is just an amazing experience? Has it really is?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
And what about Keith Lee if he comes back? You
could have forced Rickland in this hospital room talking to
Keith Lee and Keith Lee could keep Prince Nan irrelevant.
They've worked together before.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Like calling in a favor or something.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, just have you have Prince Nana watch Keith Lee's
back like he watches you know, watches stains back.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
So so so book this. So do a segment where
Nana's with Swerve and Nana's worried about being safe backstage
and versus don't worry none, I got you, and you
see him call somebody and he's like, listen, I know
we haven't talked for a while, but I need a
favor and it's personal. And then the next time Nana's
on TV and whoever's after him is after him from

(16:47):
Death Writers or whatever eats music hits. That's who Swerve
called bring out huge pop works. He's paired immediately with
Nana on their ego Kelson, they're off for the race,
and just like it thought.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
You know what's interesting, though, Berry, about what we've been
talking about. We've been talking about I personally. You know,
maybe I'm off base here, but we've listed men and
women wrestlers on the AW roster, prospective wrestlers on the
AW roster that are trending toward two things. Trending toward

(17:26):
the younger side. We're not talking We didn't mention Christian
Cage or Adam Copeland or FTR or to hurt syndicate,
you know what I'm saying, because these guys are a
little bit older. And we've not only mentioned the younger guys,
but we've also mentioned younger guys who aren't green. In
other words, we're mentioning younger guys that can wrestle. So

(17:57):
my point here is that it goes back to what
you said earlier, Barry, at the beginning of the discussion.
AW has tremendous depth and they can bring more tremendous
depth in and people may argue, people may argue that
AW doesn't need to bring in any more wrestlers. And
I'm not saying taking people from ex wrestlers from WWE here,

(18:19):
but the signing of Ace Austin. He's a good wrestler,
He's a fantastic wrestler. And they kept a young guy.
I mean, he's, you know, not like a he's not
a baby, but he's a younger guy in the Kevin
Knight Mike Bailey range. But they kept him from going

(18:43):
to NXT or even WWE just by signing him. Now
use him and make him a star, and make him
a long term star.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah, yeah, Force management, these are draft picks. You're you're
making draft picks, and you're trying to get in some
of these early and may take them a year or
two to develop, but that's what you're looking at.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
You have time to develop them, don't you agree?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah? Yeah. And the other thing you had mentioned earlier,
and I've seen some other folks frustrate the eight man
tags and a lot of the stuff that they've been doing.
I do think it's important to note, you know, there's
only so many segments on TV, and especially if you're
worried that some folks may need to go out for
time off or whatever, and you need to keep divisions

(19:29):
a lot of folks on TV. Those big tag matches,
the party matches they do one or two of a
show is a very easy way to do that, and
you can book multiple storylines in them. The Queen Aminada
and Effeck with feud has happened almost exclusively in big
old tags. You got to be careful not to overuse them.
But I don't think it's coincidence that a lot of

(19:50):
the women we are talking about, we're now more familiar
because they're in a lot of those eight man tags
and those six man tags and stuff. There is a
place for them, especially if you're trying to showcase a
lot of talent on TV, because you need to get
people familiar with them.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, no use. Speaking of Queen Amina, I don't know
if you guys saw this, but uh, she is stuck
in England because somebody had taken her taken her passport,
not in cafe. From what I understand, you know, n actuality,
taking her passport and her wallet and her clothes. You know,
they basically they took her back back, so she's until

(20:24):
she's she said that she's not going to be on
Dynamite because she's going to be stuck in England until Thursday,
maybe longer. I think that they should have a segment
where they use this. Look remember when uh when Wardlow
had his stuff stolen and they worked it into a

(20:45):
into a storyline. They could use them. Why not have
Deklas sitting on the stairs flipping through you know, passport
and say something like that, that's perfect, bitch something, It's perfect.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
You should do.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
It's what I was thinking, So you.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Should have spoken up. Well, look, you know, regardless of
who steps up, I have every confidence that somebody will
step up. And I really do think it's interesting that,
for the most part, other than Orange Cassidy, we talked
about the younger fresher a w talent. I like it.

(21:33):
I really do that suck.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
What happened to Domanana though, I mean like I heard
about that, Like her medication was in that bag. That
really sucks. Why do people got to like be like that,
don't wear that bag.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
She's been running into stuff like for the last two days.
I just sat up.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
It was still lawless, Like as a human being, you're
not supposed to have skin that good. My wife staw
on TV. She's like, my god, her, it's good.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
You would have been devastated, Barry, you would have been devastated.
On Saturday, they had the Pro Wrestling Eve show that
in Queen Amanada, Sky Blue, Julia Hart, Nyla Rose, Congratulations,
Pro Wrestling Eve's new World Champion, Nila Rose, Queen am
this whereever they had it, even the announcer. At the

(22:28):
very beginning of the show, the ring announcer came out
and said, it is freaking hot in here. Queen Amanada
came out and I swear to God, within thirty seconds
she looked like a puddle. I mean she was. I
felt so bad for her because she was absolutely drenched

(22:51):
in sweat. I mean all of them were, but because
Queen Amanada has the darker complexion, it stood out and
with her long hair being down and just soaked, I
mean you could tell. And I had so much admiration
because that match that she was in was not an

(23:12):
easy match. And it was a longer physical match, and
she made it through. And I can't imagine because they
did so much work on the ropes, and those ropes
had to be unbelievably difficult to work with.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Just stillthy it was.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
It was it was gross. I mean, it was literally gross.
Let's move on. Interestingly enough, Mercedes Monet got the win
at Forbidden Door, and now, as of Wednesday, she is
fifty one days away from breaking Jay Cargill's record of

(23:52):
five hundred and eight days with the TBS title. Russell
Dream is fifty three days away. So the questions are,
do you think Mercedes should lose the TBS title at
Wrestle Dream or lose it beforehand or even afterward, because
just losing it at Wrestle Dream like two days after

(24:15):
she breaks Jade Carr Gills run. I don't know about you, guys,
but in the back of my mind, I think that's
kind of obvious, you know. And then finally, finally, who
would be your pick to eventually take the title off
of Mercedes Monet?

Speaker 7 (24:36):
I mean, think about it, She's beaten everybody around the
world who could take it off of her anyway?

Speaker 5 (24:49):
That was as you should, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
I just it feels weird to me that both the
women's title people have I've told it for way too long,
and it needs to happen soon.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
Something needs to change.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, I mean, if you've listened to our podcast before,
I am not a fan of long title reigns. And well,
you know, Tony Storm's had it, lost it, and had
it and lost it. She's had it for quite a while,
but nowhere near the close to five hundred days now
that that Mercedes Monet has had her title, the TBS title,

(25:31):
not even counting all the other ones from all over
the world. She's what nine belts Monet now. But do
you guys, let's just take this one at a time.
Do you does anybody think that she's going to lose
this title before she breaks Jade cargills record?

Speaker 3 (25:49):
No? No, no, Well.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Do you think that breaking j Cartergill's record is important?
I don't.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Kind of mean.

Speaker 6 (26:05):
Yeah, go ahead, sorry.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Ahead, you go ahead, Okay.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
So, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
I feel like when Jade kind of left, I feel
like she may have left like a you know, a
bad taste in some of you know, aw fan mouth.
So I think maybe having Mercedes break that record might
be a big thing. You know, Mercedes will probably you know,
maybe even snip at Jade a little bit for it.
Who knows.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, let's what were you going to say.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Jess, No, that that's pretty much what I was going
to say to just like get Jade's name out of
the aw record books and let's all move on with
our lives.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Darry last week I said that, you know, look, when
it comes to Jay Cargill's record, I think it's just
a number because, let's face it, I mean a lot
of people, including me, did not find her wrong with
the TBS title impressive at all. As a matter of fact,
I think even though she has the longest title reign
of any of the TBS champions. And I have to

(27:09):
exclude Willow Nightingale from this because she only had the
title for like a couple of weeks. But I think
that you know, all the other TBS champions, Mercedes, Julia,
you can put Chris Stantley obviously, Chris Statlander. I think
you can put Willow in there if you really wanted to.
I think that all amount of more impressive run the
Jay Cargill, I really do.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, I mean, Jada wasn't a great worker, and we
saw in essence a talent that really belonged in an
MXT environment developing. And they've continued to work on her
in WWE. So compared to what we're used to aw Or,
her performance is relackluster. I felt she was a fun character.
I thought she was entertaining. But by all means, rewrite

(27:52):
your record books. When you have people who have champions
this long, accomplish what you need to, because what belts
are there for is to make new stars. And so
at this point they have established how strong Tony is.
She is the woman in aw She is the ace
of that division without a doubt, and they've established Mercedes

(28:14):
is basically unstoppable. The only person who beat her is
the ace of the division. That's perfection. When you're stacking
your number one and number two performers, this is the
time you started the whole theme to make new stars
and people to step up. This summer is when both
of those belts need to come off, and that starts
the rain in the mega push for whoever that next
person is. But you have to go full steam on that.

(28:38):
You cannot half asset. You got to strap the rocket
to whoever this is and you've got to give them
dominant wins over former champs right off the bat to
show they belong right now.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Of course, the next part of the question is Mercedes
Monette will beat Jay Cargill's record two days before Russell Dream,
so two days later Russell Dream happens. Should Mercedes Bonet
drop the TBS title at Russell Dream or do you

(29:10):
think that's a little too obvious.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
It's a great question.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Heres like, just write what makes a good story? And
if you're trying to accomplish both of these things, and
it's a good story and it makes sense to swatch
the title, who cares if it's obvious, make the story
the priority. If it's not a good story, I'm with Youkelson,
then wait, maybe you do. Maybe you build to a
super show for TV and that's the main event. You

(29:41):
give them a half hour and it pops a huge rating.
You do it then, you know, in a big mega show.
But if it's not the right story, to your point, Calson,
don't do it in a pay per view. Wait for
it to make sense, and you should start building that now.
Like with paying Man, we all couldn't wait for it.
Make us can't wait for whoever's going to beat this
person make us want to believe.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
You know, I actually think Shida needs to be the
one to be thrown Mercedes Manet. Everybody loves Chidah. She's
the ultimate freaking baby face.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
I know she was.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
Getting a little dark near the end, but everybody still
loves her for that, so it don't matter. But I
think she'd be the perfect one to beat her at
Russell Dream.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah he's champion again.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
The only problem with Shida is if Chida takes the
title off of Mercedes, Mone or anybody. I mean, let's
face it, if they do the women's tag, Chida can win,
that will she to be around to actually defend the
titles and wrestle. You know, the problem Withshida is that
she comes and goes too much. They need to walk

(30:49):
Cheetah down for the long haul. That's my problem with Shida,
because if she takes the Mercedes, she takes Mercedes's TBS
champ chip. She can just get a hold it for
two or three weeks and then lose it, possibly right
back to Mercedes.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
I didn't say you didn't like long rains.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Well, yeah, but I want I want a meaningful rain.
I mean I don't want, you know, a short rain,
but you.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Know, there's a lot of the issues with Sheeta though visa.
I'm sorry, pul go ahead.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
No, no, go ahead, Barry, because I was asking you
a question.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
What is one of the challenges that she's had really
over the last two years is just issues renewing her
visa Because during COVID she was here for like eighteen
months straight. She was the COVID tea. So I mean
she's been here for longer term runs.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Well, that's that's the point, is uh. Part of it
is the visa. Keep in mind that when she was
here for COVID, it was because she couldn't go back.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
To Japan and go back. That's yeah, that's right all right.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Now. When her car she had a signed with a
W HARKR. Sheida does a monthly show. I don't know
if she's doing anymore, but she did for several years.
She did a monthly show called Micah. It was like
a samurai stage show. It was like a play, you know,
and they did different It was performance art. And when

(32:15):
she signed with AW it was with the specific clause
in it that she could go back to Japan every
month to perform in this show. So that's one of
the reasons why she did go back. But yes, her
current issue is her visa. You know, she just can't

(32:36):
get She couldn't get back to the United States because
of her visa. She allegedly did get back to the
United States, but apparently she went back to Japan already
because she has shows did Japan scheduled. She's an actress

(32:56):
and that's what she's gonna She's an actress and a wrestler,
and she is gonna do both. That's just that's cheating.
So but one of the things that you said, Barry,
that I wanted to bring up, and I'm gonna I'm
gonna say it, correct me if I'm not getting this right,
But you said that that, well, this is exactly what

(33:19):
just this way I interpret it. Mercedes Monett has nine belts. Okay,
you said that the belts are what uh make stars.
I think is the way you alluded to. She's got
nine belts, she can make a lot of stars. Yep.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
I always thought her run was going to be after
she loses her first belt. Like the story of Mercedes
is week to week scaring her destruction on as the
ultimate similar to the Bucks, but but supercharged and by
the end she snaps and she's just a mad woman
on revenge and the most violent version of her you've

(34:00):
ever seen, because she just goes crazy. That's that's always
been my fantasy booking. And along the way any smaller
promotions and Nato mean whatever, she makes a bunch of
stars man.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean some of the people that she beat,
I'm gonna be honest with you, like Diana Strong where
she won in in Poland. People are people are talking
about Diana Strong now they're noticing hers. She's made stars

(34:30):
by beating people.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
You know, and when she puts them over, and you
have the win against Mercedes Monette like nine belts Monet,
like that makes people in these indies like that's a
huge deal to have her as your champion lineage and
for her to put one of your people over at.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Some point, I.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Mean, like you talk about giving back to the business man.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah. I thought it was funny though, because, like I
said earlier, Nila Rose won the Pro Wrestling of the
E World Championship and immediately had an issue with Mercedes
Monette asking about the color and a belt and all
that stuff, seeing you know, alluding to whether the class goes.
Nyla Rose posted a picture of her blockings Mercedes Monet

(35:17):
on Twitter over it, you know, like leave me alone
kind of thing and just just hysterical stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
That's one of my favorite right now. Anybody who wins
out when she does that, that's a great gag.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
It doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman either.
You know, as you posts the Google the eyes, you
know a mode, it is hysterical. So we okay, we're
talking about let's just talk specifically about the TBS title.
Hakarashida came up. Is there anybody else that you think
could could beat Mercedes Monet or would you like to

(35:48):
see beat Mercedes Monet for the title?

Speaker 3 (35:53):
They could be saving her for this eventual tag division's
going to be happening. But I'd say give give meg
Vana shot. I really like her. I've loved watching her develop.
He's awesome. I imagine imagine the Megasus with the duel.
That's that's that's great.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, you know somebody that I thought of and I
thought of this for Mercedes Money, actually thought of this
for Tony Storm. sureI why not? Surey? You know it.
I'll tell you who. It can't be. It can't be Athena.
Athena has been kind of rendered a non contender in

(36:33):
AW to me, because you can't win the big one
in AAW. You know, I don't know the best way
to put it. Maybe that maybe maybe that's the story
they're going with, is that she's great, but she can't
win the big one in AW. Maybe that's the story.
And so what she eventually does, you know, maybe get

(36:54):
away from her minion overlord thing and maybe becomes more
of a face than to heal and gets the crowd
behind her. Maybe Athena winsbe story she to lose.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Go ahead, Yeah, I was going to say, like whatever
she like loses, it's always like her arrogance that winds
up costing her, Like she totally could have beat Tony,
like if she wouldn't have like screwed around so much
in the beginning.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, you're picking up what I was going to be
putting down there the Hubris she has Kelson to your point,
she needs to lose to learn that humility, especially her title,
to realize what she was doing wrong to be that
champion and chief her goals. I think that's the path.
I think you guys are right. She needs to be humbled,

(37:48):
and I don't mean going on a losing streak, but
she needs to lose that title, the forever champion. Well,
how can you be forever champion when every other belt
you go for you lose? What kind of a champion
is that?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah? Well, Friday night she's defend that belt. Friday night,
She's defending that title against Mina Shirakawa, who is another
one who always loses. She always loses the big one. Yes,
she's the interim champion, but she didn't beat the champion
to become the interim champion. She beat another challenger. The

(38:22):
fact of the matter is Mina Shirakawa can't beat a
champion and Athena can't beat a champion in aw And
we'll see about what happens in the Ring of Honor.
If I'm not mistaken, Mina shirk already lost to the
Athena and Ring of Honor recently as well.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
So yeah, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, but maybe that's the catalyst for her giving up
the Minion. Ways I mean talking about Athena, is she
loses on Friday night to Mina Shirakawa, Maybe she says Okay,
I'm no longer to forever champion at Ring of Honor.
I can concentrate on aw now. The only thing is
is that I believe right now Athena is at like

(39:09):
something like nine and ninety one days as the champion Again,
are they gonna let her get to a thousand because
she won't get to a thousand by Friday night? And
is it important? She's already the longest ragining But is
that magic number one thousand important? Again? Similar to Mercedes Monet,

(39:33):
I don't think so. I really don't, you know, because
you got you got the look. You got two storylines
here with Athena and Mercedes Monet both going for a
number instead of instead of a defense of a belt,
They're going for a number instead of a wrestling match.

(39:55):
You see what I'm saying. And let's make it to
where going for numbers is not the best thing to do.
It's not the smartest thing to do. Frankly, had the
both lose.

Speaker 6 (40:06):
Yeah, I actually don't think it should matter neither, because
she's already been champion for so long, Like, why does
it even matter if you make it to a thousand?
Nobody is going to catch you? For probably like another
ten years. Nobody's going to have that title as long
as she is going to have that title, So I
think they shouldn't even worry about it.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
No, I agree with you. Look you look at Mercedes Monet,
her entire reign that's going on right now with all
these belts. It's all about numbers. There's nothing about challengers.
It's all about numbers. She's just getting numbers. She's adding,
adding and adding, it's increasing the numbers. It's to the
point where the people that she is winning these belts

(40:54):
off of don't matter as much as the number of
belt el that she's carrying, or the Royal Guard is
carrying whatever.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
I think. Uh, you're you're putting down a lot of
really good lines for coming up babyface promos against Mercedes,
like Telson. Like literally the stuff you're laying out, that's
promo stuff right there. You put her up against Alice
Wins and that's the promo winsor needs to cut right there.
She doesn't care. She doesn't actually care about this. She's
just going after numbers. You don't care about the championship.

(41:27):
I'm going to be a real champ. Like you're hitting all,
You're hitting all the promo lines here, man, I think.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
I really do.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
I think you're on something.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
I should be the next, you know, big thing in
the aw women's division.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Obviously, give him the book, give them the book Challenger.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah, my my daughter is in the chat. She kind
of liked that. So but anyway, let's move on because
you've got a similar situation going on with Tony Storm.
Although Tony Storm, as I said earlier, she wins that
she loses, that she wins that she loses it. She's

(42:08):
at the time that Mercedes Monet has had the TBS championship.
Tony Storm has lost the belt twice, I believe, once
to Mariah may No just once. Right, Yeah, but she
has lost it, and frankly, she's had better challengers simply

(42:29):
because she's only defending the one title. As Barry alluded
to earlier, there's only one title that matters to Tony Storm,
where the numbers matter to Athena and to Mercedes Monet
if you really want to get down to it, Tony

(42:50):
Storm has beaten Mercedes Monet and Athena in consecutive pay
per views, and those are arguably the two top contenders
the women's division. Right now, we've already talked about Mercedes Mona.
Who do you think is next for Tony Storm? Has
AW kind of backed Tony Storm and the not Tony

(43:14):
Storm and herself, but the AW Women's Championship into a
corner because there's just who's left? Maybe who.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Jamie Hayter, she just came back.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Well that's well and fine, but that's gonna be declan
Jamie Hayter. I think that's kind of obvious.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Why didn't say it had to happen now?

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, but I'm saying that Tony Storm's the women's champion.
There's another pay per view coming up on September twentieth.
I mean that's less than a month from now.

Speaker 6 (43:53):
Yeah, we need a now person, and I honestly can't
think of anybody she hasn't already defeated. It have to
be somebody new. But then who would it be?

Speaker 3 (44:03):
You know?

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yeah? But sort of looking at it like like you
were saying, Storm, we need a now person. But that
now person is she gonna be actually a contender? Is
it just somebody that they're gonna throw at her to
get beat at all out? So that there's you know
what I'm saying, We can't just have somebody. We can't
just feed Tony Storm, we can't feed Athena, we can't

(44:27):
feed Mercedes Monet. At some point, it's gonna be like
Jake Cargill all over again. It's gonna be like, Okay,
this is a sale.

Speaker 6 (44:36):
Yeah, eventually you have to stop.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
I got an idea, so I think you're right Kelson,
and I think Storm. I think you're right too. I
don't think there's enough time to put anybody who're gonna
care about for either of those titles into the pay
per view. So let's not do a title match. Let's
put the baby faces against the heels. Tony ends up
teaming with whoever is going to take that belt off.

(45:01):
Mercedes doesn't even have to be the next pay per view,
but this is the start of that feud to establish them.
They're going to get the rebel worker with Tony Babyface.
The heels will be Mercedes and whatever heel is paired
up with her that's been a feud with Tony and
eventually take the belt. Use this pay per view to
start those programs in a tag match, all of the
big names together. There's your top two programs to carry

(45:24):
you forward. You do the belt switch when it's appropriate
TV pay per group who cares to your point? I
think that's what you do for this next pay per view,
because I agree, I don't think there's anybody ready and
they're going to rush somebody, and I think it's waste.
So start the build for those people that are going
to take those titles off them now.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Well sure, yeah, you know. The only thing that I
could possibly think of for all out, and it's way
too soon for all Out. I'm saying this right off
the bat, it's way too soon is have Athena versus
Tony Storm versus Mercedes Mina and the winner gets the
other two belts a triple crown. That's the only thing

(46:02):
I could think of, and then just have that person
work horse, and frankly, the only person I think at
the work horse it is Athena.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
We got to a step three profit real quick. There,
what's that I said? We got to a step three
profit real quick on that storyline?

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Okay, Well, I'm just saying, and you know, I don't
like those kind of matches, but that's really the only
thing I can That's the only thing that I can
think of, because let's face it again, it's right as
we're talking. It's August twenty sixth, all out us on
September twentieth. You know that's three weeks away, basically three

(46:45):
weeks away, and how are you going to come up
with a viable contender unless you go with somebody like
Shury for one of them. You know, that would make sense.
You know, I mentioned that with Mercedes Bnet having Surey
for one of them, but that's only one of them.
You've got to have two of them. You know. You

(47:07):
can have maybe have a feud with Tony Storm and
Alex windsor against Athena and Billy Starks. But something's got
to happen, happen like this week for that to even
be viable. I don't know. It's I'm confused about about what.

(47:31):
I'm sure Tony Kahan does have a thought and plan
in mind. I just have no clue what he's thinking.
You know, it is what it is. Well, let's move
on to our favorite part of the show, the Potpourrie,
where we can bring up a topic, anything that's on
your mind, and we'll discuss it or not. We could

(47:53):
just bring up a topic and somebody may just say okay,
but it depends, so it depends on how you say it.
Does anybody? How do you have a potpourria that they
want to talk about?

Speaker 4 (48:05):
I do myself, And it's not aw related. It has
to do with something that happened here recently. I believe
it's called Knox Pro or Knox something like that. Anyway,
and it bowls a rampage Jackson's son, who isn't I

(48:26):
guess training to be an M and A fighter. Look,
it's about time I think Swerve said it to start
gate keeping wrestling again. This guy had no business in
the ring.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
I don't. I've heard all the details. I've watched a.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Little bit of a video on it, and we need
to stop bringing people like him like and like this,
and it's dangerous and.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
I hope this guy gets better. To Psycho stew gets
gets better.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
I guess from reports he was unconscious from the hit
on the on the MEPH and the slam on the ground,
and this just kept on pounding the way Adam. It
took many wrestlers to get them away.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
Uh, we don't. I don't know many M and A fighters.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
They're a handful who actually get the sport. And I
don't think that some of these guys do or or
even respect it. To be honest with you, but it's
time we celebrities need to go. There's several celebrities who
have screwed up who need to go, and that's just
the way I feel about it.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Well, would you agree though, that some celebrities participating in
wrestling are harmless and you know, just fluffy fun.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
Well, jelly roll was fine, but when you have an
actual athlete who has an anger problem and who.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
I understand are Yeah, but you said all celebrities need
to go. I mean, do you really mean that all
celebrities need to go?

Speaker 4 (49:53):
Not maybe all celebrities, but I think we needed take
care of maybe filter out the ones that don't need
They have no business in there.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
You know, I mean, come on, I mean, Snoop Dog
can stay. Honestly, I don't think he's on his best day.
He's not going to hurt anybody, you know. But you know, I,
you KNOWJJ, I don't have a problem with.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Him either, Good Old A j SO and Bad Bunny.
Bad Bunny can stay too. Bad Bunny is great.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah, don't even say Logan Paul on a w W
form because that is a that's that's war. Declaration of
war right there. So some of them love him. They
he you know, they say the argument with Logan Paul
is that he can wrestle, He's got the skills, you know.

(50:48):
Others I don't like him because, well, they don't like
him because he's an asshole, you know, and that they
know that that's one, plain and simple.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
You know, there's that performs that are jerks in real life.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
And I mean, sure, I think it's the time.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
He has more time and train than everybody else, so
he can't, like Kenny Omega said in the past, he
couldn't do a g one.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
No right, yeah, I understand that, But I'm saying for
what he is, he is, he does have the skills,
but people don't like him, don't People don't like him
because they act like they know him personally. When I'm
saying that, I don't mean that I like him. I'm
just saying that. You know, Logan Paul could step in

(51:36):
my house right now, knock on my door, and I'd
open it and he'd say hi, and I'd be like,
who the hell are you? Because I wouldn't be able
to pick him out of a crowd. Better Yet, if
I was standing face to face with him, you know,
because I just don't know.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
He's also not dangerous and uh, and he aspects the industry.
There's a lot of celebrities who just want to get
their face out there and and who don't expect the
energy that it is and that it's and that it
takes talent to be in there and not just swinging
away the fences at someone's face and making him choke

(52:11):
on blood and stuff.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
That's what happened.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
So what you're saying is logan Paul is safe almost again.
He's no wristler.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
Yeah, he's no wrestler.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah, because that that guy scares me. Man, he's just
crotch level, and I don't I don't trust anything that's
crotch level.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
He's a literal child.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
When he's older and he's like chest level. I won't
have any problem with her right now. No, there's just
too much can go wrong.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
You know.

Speaker 6 (52:44):
I never heard of them until I saw them on a.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
W I had no idea.

Speaker 6 (52:49):
AJ wasn't anything. And I'm like, okay, you say, boom,
I get it.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
Yeah, he's kind of wearing on me with that a
little bit.

Speaker 6 (52:58):
But same.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
But then again, he draws crowds people like him.

Speaker 6 (53:05):
I don't understand why.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
I don't know who they were, Like, who are these guys?
And then I had to look him up, But like
they got him. I think he's perfect for pre show
stuff and that's how he needs to be used. It's
just like a little you know, a couple of times
a year. The people love him. They put him in

(53:27):
safe places. It's always a fun, little goofball thing. But yeah,
it could grind on me. I'm like the Storm. It
could grind on me real quick.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yeah, But it's just like that guy that's gonna be
wrestling what's his name, Doogie Howser whatever, his name is
one the Golden Globe, Yeah, Dookie Yeah. Yeah, well no,

(53:58):
but I mean he's harmless. You know, he's not going
to Yeah well big Boom, Yeah, is a wrestler that
isn't a wrestler anymore. But you know, but even Houser,
he's he's training, he's doing he's putting in the work.
But like Logan Paul, he's not out there to kill people,

(54:21):
you know, So.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Go to work really hard.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Yeah, I mean, got a lot for wrestling to be
in the wrestling ring, to be that's that's ultimately what
you gotta do. Anybody else have a pote prie that
they'd like to share storm?

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Did you have one? You want to go?

Speaker 2 (54:43):
You know?

Speaker 5 (54:44):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (54:46):
This is all like so I'm still kind of getting
used to everything.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
I can go, give you a second, and if you come.

Speaker 6 (54:53):
Up with something you can go after, Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (54:56):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
So I don't know if anybody has found this person
on Blue Sky or not, but I found her, I
don't know, probably about two months ago or so. And
she's an aw superfan that travels to a bunch of
shows and takes a lot of pictures, and her handle
on Blue Sky is Monica likes aew we follow her off.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Yeah, okay, she probably.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Found her for you retweeting or something at some point.
But yeah, so she's a really nice account. It's just
a lot of great pictures she coasts. Occasionally she'll do
some stuff outside of wrestling when she's traveling and some
other fun stuff, but it's almost always wrestling related content.
But what's really cool is I asked her what equipment

(55:41):
she uses, assuming she has, like, you know, a DSLR
with a good lens on it or something, and she
just has a Galaxy phone. I don't remember what what
model Samsung, but she just uses the ad and she
has a couple programs she's very comfortable with and just
knows the exposures the camera can do because she's used
it for so long. But it's really impressive. She snapped
a lot of really good seats, I'm sorry, a lot

(56:03):
of really good pictures. She's clearly has a lot of
good seats and some pretty good zoom capabilities. But you
don't follow her check her out. It's a it's a
real fun and a real nice account.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Yeah, she's she's one of the accounts that's always interacting
with the aw fanhub account on Blue Sky, which by
the way, has forty three hundred followers. Now, so that's
pretty impressive for us. But yeah, Mark was great. We

(56:33):
are we're growing. So all right, it's time to put
Storm under pressure. What do you got Storm?

Speaker 6 (56:47):
Okay, So, did everybody see the thing about jk or today?

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yeah? God, the guy whose hat? The guy who's hat
was literally more popular than the.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Yeah oh, he is such a shud.

Speaker 6 (57:09):
If you look at all like the links and all
the comments all over like Instagram, Facebook, read it. They
all are just making fun of Hagar basically saying like
you couldn't hack it, so now you're just you know,
attacking a w and then FTR immediately comes out with receipts.

(57:29):
I was like, dang, they just shut him up right
then and there.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Yeah, It's just it's like gang warfare, you know, it
really is. There just guys like Jake Haeger and stuff
that basically are the stupid gang. I don't, for the
life of me understand why he would have said what
he said.

Speaker 6 (57:55):
Well the first place, because of Jericho's Friends of America.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
That's my thing.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
They needed bodies when they started and he was available.
And you know, I do think it's funny when he
was like, they only offered me an eighteen month contract
and it wasn't worth a lot of money. I was
really valuable, and I'm just thinking, if you were really valuable,
you would have signed a better contract somewhere else. If

(58:30):
you were valuable, you would have found work after this
current contract somewhere else. You haven't because you you aren't valuable.
Tony actually was providing you at the sympathy contract, hoping
maybe you could pull together and keep working. But this
is you know, this is what you got out of it.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Man, Well I did. It doesn't take much to entertain me.
And I do have to admit that the the you know,
the hat thing did entertain me.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Yes, in some moments, had some funny you get a
good row some people.

Speaker 6 (59:01):
Yeah no, but he just fully couldn't get over like
he tried. The hat thing went good for a while,
but justick like we get it, you love your hat.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Hager was not over the hat was.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
You know, we just said, we just mentioned here's my potpourri.
We just mentioned Chris Jericho, and there are a lot
of people saying that Jericho's days with aw or over a. Look,
we've had some comments about Chris Jericho here on this
podcast saying that, like for me personally, I thought the
Learning Tree was god awful and then it got better

(59:49):
because Big Bill was better. You know, it did put
Big Bill over, not so much, Brian Keith. It didn't
do anything for Chris Jericho. But now they're talking about
Chris Jericho going to w W W and it does
bug me a little bit when I see people saying, good,
Chris Jericho's worthless, blah blah blah. Look, Jericho was the

(01:00:13):
king of aw when it started. She was the one
guy that you can count on among very few others
that could make stars people. Well, no, they can make
people watch AW for legitimate wrestling because people knew Chris Jericho.

(01:00:41):
I mean, some people knew the Young Bucks, some people
knew Kenny Omega, etc. Etc. But I would say that
most people knew Chris Jericho, and so Chris Jericho. I
think you have to give Chris Jericho credit for well
putting AW on his shoulders very early days. Yeah, he's

(01:01:02):
not the same Jericho now that he was in twenty nineteen,
but I would guess to say that none of you
are the same person you were now in twenty nineteen.
You know, assuming that everyone here is over seventy years
old and gay.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Christ Jericho never meant never restless, there's no AAW today.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Yeah, I see, you know, I agree. You know, there's
a lot of things that go on, and I think
it is unfair to label Chris Jericho incorrectly. Sure, he's
what is he fifty some years old? Now fifty? I
don't know, I don't know, I really don't know. But

(01:01:46):
the fact of the matter is that when he was
in his mid forties, he was killing it. He was
killing it. I think we need to take a step
back from being horrible IWC internet trolls and just say
thank you to Chris Jericho, and whether he goes to
w W EE, retires, or even stays with a W

(01:02:08):
it should be thank you. Well.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
But I haven't heard any legit sources saying he's going.
I've heard body Slam dot Net and some others. But yeah,
you know, sports Skita is not good.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
That's a terrible source, Melzer said.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Meunzer said, most people he talks you think Chris is
going to end up signing with the w W.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
This doesn't solid so it's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Yeah, I mean there, Look as as I'm saying, is
that regardless if Jericho goes elsewhere, stays at a W
or just retires, it's still a thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
Yeah, yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Except for the learning truth there, it was just really.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
There were some funny parts of the learning treat when
it first started, and then it kind of got old.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
But yeah, you got better when they got darker, when
they started being like darker.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Actually I thought the funniest part of the scene was
it was actually Brian Keith.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
You respect Jericho.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Yeah, I think that's the funny, Like, you better teach
that baby to respect christ Jericho.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
I really enjoyed the New York Minute.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
It was good. That was one of the best parts
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Yeah, but again, they did it too many times. You know,
they should have been once every three weeks should have
been cool, but not once every show kind of thing
or once.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
So it makes sense when they were leading up to
the Hammerstein shows, but then they kept doing it and
it kind of got longer too. But I think we
do all agree it did keep Big Bill on TV.
I'm a big proponent of keeping people on TV until
they get over. Case and point Harley, he's over. They
put him on the UK randomly in a squash match
for a reason because they knew he'd get a big pop.

(01:04:06):
It is time to get behind Big Bill and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Don't forget a w in what is it? In the
Is it December? Is going back to the ancestral home
of the Bill family, Cardiff, Wales. So I think it's
a December. Is that right?

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Yeah, that's where you do it, then that's where you
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Yeah, I mean maybe you put him against Tony Storm
and have him win the Women's World Championship. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
If we only viewers are dressed every week, he's got
to wear like a sheer, like a form fit he
has if heels like he has to have like he
can't know how you have to go through the trials
of what it's like to be a woman like you
can't have to deal with ye?

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Yes? Is there anybody else that has a potpourric? Go ahead, jess, I.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
You I just wanted to take a moment to talk.
Well I could actually talk about it for maybe in
a whole another hour. Just the absolute batship, bonker sicko delight.
That was the lights out cage match. That was so
much fun.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
I have to rupt you here. Were you disappointed that
the lights actually came back on because last week you
were just all about the lights being off.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
Yeah, you don't have the benefit of visuals. But I
just did the stone cold thing like the laugh glare,
but also a a WUS finally discovered the paranoia inducing
thing that is the classic era n x T. The

(01:05:59):
bumper is a lie. Just what if you just when
you think the show is over, No it's not. Something
terrible is happening.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Yeah from NXC. I wonder how many people I wonder
how many people actually turned the TV off.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
The first time they did it, or the least that
I remember them doing. It was Uh, Tomaso Champa's big
heel turn on Johnny Gargano, Like they put up the
but they put up the bumper and then Tomasso hits

(01:06:42):
Johnny with a chair.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Well, I I honestly thought it just was a production
staff because that's totally character Freed.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
That's true too.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
I was like, someone's getting fired. Went on the graphics
a little early.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Yeah, I mean this. He just brought up a good point.
How about the weapons that were used, particularly the gummy bears,
that was terrifying.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
I think the most terrifying thing about the gummy bears
was that will actually ate one after Like it was
like sitting sitting under the lights on that sweaty, bloody
mat he just no gummy bears.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
I was like, oh will no, Yeah, the gummy bears
out when he like his teeth when he got super
kicked was I was dying.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
They need to wear or they need to have like
remember when the NHL had the glowing hockey pucks. They
need to do the glowing hockey pucks thing on Nick
and Matt where they just have a glowing thing was
saying their name because I have no idea who they are.
I can never tell them apart I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Yeh, Nick has darker hair. No, Matt does. Matt has
darker hair. Nick has lighter hair.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Okay, see, I don't pay attention to hair like that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
You know, well you should.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Hair is confusing to me. That's why I like Ricochet
so much.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Not a hair guy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
No, I'm not a hair I'm been shaving my head
since I was seventeen years old. People has when I
get my driver's lights of a hair color? What's your
hair color? Clear? I don't know. It's like, oh, yeah,
you should see some of the razor blades I've gone through.
But uh, but now I've got it down to with science,

(01:08:43):
it's not a big deal. Yeah, So the lights out match,
the lights out match. My favorite part of that match
was Hiroshi Tanahashi climbing up that ladder like he was
going to do some and then the other was like, no, no, no, no, no,

(01:09:04):
get that. I thought that was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Let the guy who needs surgery to it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Yeah, yeah, let the guy, uh you know, protect your knees.
Let the guy with the bad neck.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Yeah, it was a funny spot.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Yeah, I mean, oh I would again. Well, look this
is what I thought when they announced this match. I'm like, Okay,
so you have Hiroshi Tanahashi with no knees, Coda Bushie
with no neck, will Osprey with no neck, Darby Allen,

(01:09:41):
who could pretty much kill himself doing a stupid move
at any second in any match, and and keny Omegho's
missing like whatever, sixty four feet of his intestines. I
don't know, you know, come on, there wasn't a single
healthy person really in the in that match. Well, Darby
Allen was healthy, But Darby Allen's also not the biggest

(01:10:04):
guy in the world. I mean, he was significantly smaller
than everybody else. I mean honestly, though, on the other team,
Argue Gave Kid had a leg injury recently, so maybe
he was, but he sure didn't move like he had
a leg injury recently to me. But yeah, I was

(01:10:25):
kind of shocked that, you know, Team good Guy won.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
So I also thought the death Rider's entrance was so cool,
especially if the game kid liked like skinning out of
like the foreigners and like an animal.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
I like kid, He's fun you know, I was thinking
a lot about this match to Coston because I'm like,
why are they doing this match with so many people injured?
And they've done Usually when they do these pandemonium MASHs,
everyone's like, oh, there's going to be crazy spots, And
if you really look at what they did most of

(01:11:06):
the spots, they were a lot more selective on the spots.
It was mostly the healthier people doing them. And Darby
is Derby. We saw disgusting stuff and you know, it's
not a surprise he took one of the biggest pumps
with Gabe Kid. But other than that, I think a
lot of it was the plunder ish type of stuff

(01:11:27):
made up for some of the lack of mobility because
I don't think any of those guys, well maybe not
any of it. Some of them could really could have
worked a full match, you know, twelve ten, twelve, fifteen
minute match, so kind of throwing them into this so
they can share the workload and go to a really
slow and methodical pace because they didn't really have a
lot of super fast exchanges. It was pretty pretty slow match.

(01:11:48):
Maybe something to do with it, you know, with the injuries,
is to allow top stars one last time. We're going
to make it seem crazy, but only two guys are
going to do really all the insane stuff, and everybody
else is just going to be illusions so that we
can see our friends one more time before they go
away for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
You know, well, Ousbury did some beat ship stuff. I'll
tell you that match.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
What he does. But I don't think it was more
than any other match. It's not a little less because
there was not enough time, you know, it was just.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
No, absolutely, Well, does anybody else have a potpourrie that
they want to bring up?

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Okay, then I guess that'll be the end of the show.
We'll be back tomorrow night, right after Dynamite, which we
don't have a close I still I have a check
since we've you know, started the podcast tonight, I don't
think there's anything anything announced, you know, as far as
Dynamite goes. So this be interesting, Yeah, I believe so.

(01:12:49):
So again I said it before. I think the best
thing that they can do is have Decklat sitting on
the stairs with Queen Amnada's phone and our past sport
or ID and or glasses and her medication said hey,
you're missing this, And I just think that's that's a
great way to do things. Let's go with it. Hen

(01:13:10):
and hey, maybe maybe we get a Wardlow signing tomorrow night.
We didn't even mention that Wardlow came back after bidden door.
I'm interested to see what he does for the almost
nWo ish big don Kallis family Right now, they're gonna

(01:13:30):
need a bigger people canvas. So all right, So for
the aw Fanhubb podcast team, this is Kelson. Good night everybody,

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