May 28, 2023 • 44 mins
To celebrate the third birthday (WOW) of Imperfect Strangers, we invited Andy Bellatti of Astrology With Andy to read the birth chart of this show. This podcast is a hardcore Gemini, a sign known for communication and curiosity — a perfect for a show about two strangers getting to know each other. If you want to find out more about astrology or learn more about yourself by getting your or your business’s birth chart ready, look up Andy on IG at @astrologywithandy.
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While and today I am reading thechart of the actual podcast. Well,
in celebration of our third birthday forthis podcast, I reached out to Andy
and I said, could you readthe chart for the podcast? He was
like, absolutely, it give mewhen you released it where it was released
from. Like I had to givemy zip code and the time and all
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of that good stuff. And whoknew a podcast could have a birth chart?
Well, and that's a great pointactually, because one thing I want
to tell people that many may notrealize is that everything has a birth chart,
so not just people, but alsocompanies, countries. It's why you
know, you can read the chartof the United States or any country and
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kind of have an idea of what'scoming up. But with companies it is
important because in astrology, the mainbelief is that the time and day that
something begins kind of imprints a certainenergy, much like with the birth chart.
So this is why one of theis that I offer on my website
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is that if let's say that youare trying to launch your own business,
or you're thinking about when should Iopen my bakery or whatever it might be,
I can help you identify a handfulof dates that are better than others,
because there are some things that ifthey are in a birth chart of
a company or something that you're tryingto launch, it does point to a
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higher probability of more obstacles, morefrustration, success being harder. So that's
where it can help to have theright dates. Are you smoothing as precursive
girls? You really should have metme glory you start of this now.
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It's actually amazing because the chart ofthe podcast has minimal I mean, I'll
talk about what are the challenges,but it's a very good chart. Does
anybody come to you when they're planningtheir wedding date? This just popped up
as you were talking about like businesslaunching and ask about certain dates and then
make a decision on when they getmarried based off of that. Yes.
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And the thing is I always sayfor wedding charts, in my opinion,
it's more about the actual ceremony andhow the day will go because you're not
beginning your relationship with that person whenyou get married. So, you know,
some astrologers make it seem like,oh, if the astrology of your
wedding isn't the best in your relationship, I'm like, no, but you
met this person three years ago,so it's not. But what one of
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my pet peeps though, is whenpeople tell me, oh, I'm getting
married in two months, it's thata good day And I'm like, well,
right, it's too late. Evenif I tell you it sucks,
what are you gonna do? Likecancel? And you know, so it's
like, don't ask me if youalready made a decision, because then I'm
putting that very awkward spot. Andif you happen to look at the chart
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and it's not so good, Idon't want to, you know, be
Debbie Downer. So you also findas an astrologer that, like if you
were a doctor, and you know, like people are always like, can
you take a look at this andtell me if this looks normal? Do
you find that people in your lifehound you often for advice on decisions they
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should be making or what they're doingbecause you have such a vast knowledge.
Well, what I'll say is thatover the year, yes, in the
past, and that helped me todevelop very strong boundaries with people where and
this is more acquaintances, not goodfriends. But there was a time when
I have to help people. Yeah, I'd be happy to answer that you
can go to my website, bookor reading. I will totally talk because
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I think some people forget Yeah,well some people forget that, you know,
this is something that I've been learningfor literally for over twenty years,
that it takes time, it's askill set. Well, and I'm sure
that that Amanda, you probably havehad it happened, maybe with like people
asking you for advice on working outright. Yeah, yeah, you know,
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I just got athleticism and she hasto be in my orbit. Okay.
So but sometimes I think it's people, you know, sometimes not too
often, but sometimes people on Instagram. In fact, two weeks ago,
somebody started following me and within minutessent me a direct message saying sending me
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a photo of their chart and theirboyfriend's chart and said, hey, can
you look at this and tell meif we're compatible and what the challenges are?
And I said, um, yeah, I do relationship readings. Here,
it's a link to my website andif you want a book, that's
where you can. I mean,that to me was a little bit over
the top. Yeah that's a lotof work. Yeah yeah, so you're
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going to need a person to handlejust your inbox, you know what I
mean? So you could just goin there and get to swipe in.
Most people are are very respectful.So what have you been up to.
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Well, I've actually met several ofyour listeners over the past year, who
you know, as a result ofme being on the show, have come
to me for reading. So that'sbeen fantastic. I love that I do
too. Yeah, and last monthor a few weeks ago, I launched
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my first online astrology class. Ohwow, it's it's titled how to Read
a Birth Chart because basically a lotof people who come to me for readings,
we're saying, well, you know, I know the basics, but
I want to know how to putit all together. So it's not astrology
one oh one. It's not likeif you've never even heard about any of
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this, it's going to be alittle bit advanced. But if you're somebody
who maybe has read about astrology forseveral years, you've had your birth chart
read, but now you're kind oflike, but how do I put everything
together into doing a reading? That'swho the class it's for. It's online,
you do it at your own speed, but there is on the website
there is a forum where you canask me questions and I'll answer them,
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but it's basically for one hour lessonsthat make up the whole class. Oh
wow, that's doable. Yeah.And also I purposely did it so that
you know, there's no homework,there's no reading, there's nothing of the
sort. You just kind of watchedthe videos and then you can apply the
knowledge yourself if you want to practicewith your family members, your friends.
But there's no actual work for thecourse either. So yeah, it's very
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very manageable. And once you purchasethe course, is that something that you
have like forever and you can referback to it and you're always available too.
Yes, once you have it,it's for life, and the course
is offered forever. It's not likea limited offering, so you know,
some people we're telling me, Idon't have the money right now, while
you can sign up in six months. There's no rush, so it's just
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rolling enrollment. Yeah. And thenin the fall, I'm going to launch
a second class about how to predictwith astrology, like the forecasting part of
astrology. Wow. See, that'smy favorite part of my readings actually,
because you can get the information allyou want, but if you can't figure
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out how to apply it, towhat's going to happen in the future,
and like use the information that you'regiven to then change your overall behavior or
attitude. Then the point of thereading is missed because I'm gonna tell you
something, Andy, and everything youtold me in my reading in October twenty
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twenty one manifested itself in October drewOctober of twenty twenty two for that whole
calendar year, you know. Butthere were some things that I was in
control of and didn't apply myself,you know what I'm saying. But it
was all there, and it wasall within my region. I understood it
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because of that reading. Yes,well, that's why I always say that
I'm an astrologer who believe in freewill in the sense that the only thing
that comes up in an astrology readingwhen you predict or forecast is what are
the situations that you're going to encounter? But then you decide what you do
with that situation. So you know, it's not like I can predict how
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you're going to react, but Ican at least give you a heads up
of what's coming up. Yeah,and what inspired you to create your courses.
I've always enjoyed teaching One of thethings that I think I do very
well is I'm very good at takingcomplex topics and really like distilling them down
to the basics so that people whoare new to it understand it. Every
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time you explain something on your Instagram, I always feel like it is so
accessible and I love astrology and Ijust have scraped the surface and the things
that I know and understand, andgosh, I see people come into your
stories and ask questions, and I'mlike, it's like speaking a whole other
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language, and I think that itcan feel overwhelming or a little daunting,
but I love the idea because youalways do such a beautiful job of making
it very easy to understand. AndI walk away feeling like, you know,
even in that twenty second story,that I've learned so much more about
astrology or understanding my chart just hearingyou explain it. Thank you well.
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And that's it too that I wasalso being asked by people, have ever
thought about teaching a class? SoI started realizing that, oh, there's
interest here, and I like todo it. And you can sign up
by going to my website astrology withAndy dot Com. Up at the top
menu, there's an online class linkand the link is also on my Instagram
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bio, and then I purchased thecourse. I get started. How am
I learning? Am I reading?Am I watching videos? How are you
breaking down this information? It's allvideos. So I recorded basically, I
recorded myself doing four one hour presentations, okay, and so there's four topics,
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and then within each topic, Ibasically first cover the information and then
I bring up birth charts so youcan see how I apply what I just
taught you when I'm doing or reading. Oh that makes that I bet that
makes it so much easier because thenyou get that real time. Because I
feel like sometimes when I've taken acourse in the past, like I've done
classes on Tarot, it makes sensein the moment, but then when it
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comes to that application and you havequestions or something maybe comes up that you
didn't cover in your course, andthe fact that they can then come in
and ask you questions, that's reallyreally cool. Yeah. So I thought
it was important too. At theend of each lesson show at least one
or two charts where I'm like,well, here's how I apply what I
just taught you, And then Ithink it is important for people to be
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able to ask questions, but tryingto do live classes gets way too complicated
with people's schedules and timing. Sothat's why there's a forum where people can
ask me questions. And the greatthing is that then as a student,
you can read what other people areasking as well. So it's a public
forum, which of course is archives. So if you join the class in
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nine months and several people have takenit, you also see all their questions
and my answers about the course.Wow, that's cool. I'm so excited
for doing things. I'm doing thingshere, you are, indeed? All
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right? Well should we get intoit? Well, first I want to
know, Amanda, what is ouractual birthday time and place? I know
it's May, Okay, May twentysecond. We released the first episode at
midnight and it came from Cincinnati.All right. So The Imperfect Stranger's Podcast
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is a Gemini Gemini baby, yep. And there's quite a lot of Gemini
in the chart because that you havethe Sun, Mercury, and Venus all
in Gemini. So right off thebat, that already makes it a very
Gemini energy because in astrology we haveten celestial bodies, we have the sun,
in the moon, and then eightplanets. Of those ten, five
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are called personal Sun, Moon,Mercury, Venus, Mars. So you
have three of the five. Youhave Sun, Mercury and Venus and Gemini.
So the personal planets we give alittle bit more attention to because they
really kind of make up the bulkof who you are, whereas the other
planets are more generational planets. Sothat's a very Gemini energy. Also,
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the moon is in Taurus, whichis interesting because I know that that's your
sun sign, Amanda. So thething about a Gemini sun for a podcast
in particular is fantastic because Gemini isa sign of communication. It's a sign
of opinions, debates, ideas.It is a sign that rules podcasts and
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radio shows and magazines and newspapers.So this concept, especially of two people
who in some aspects have different viewson life and different perspectives and getting to
know one another, it's very that'sthe epitome of Gemini. It's getting look
at people through communication. Yeah,so smart. We didn't even know it.
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I might just lyings and plan thelaunch of the podcast around the idea
that wow. And then what's alsointeresting here is that and this is what
I was referring to by this chartbeing very positive. The Sun in this
chart is one hundred twenty degrees awayfrom so one hundred twenty degrees is a
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special angle called the tryne t rI N E. And things in trying
are getting along with each other andworking well together. So you have the
son of the chart trining Jupiter andtrining Satters. Let me break that down.
Jupiter is a planet that when it'sinvolved in a trine, it's all
about expansion and growth. And Ialways say when you're starting a business or
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launching something new, you want goodJupiter aspects because that points to easy growth.
If you don't have positive Jupiter aspects, it's easy for things to only
reach a certain point and then theystart fizzling, or for example, you
do it for three months and thenthe momentum dives down. So I think
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the Jupiter trine is what it's helpedyou to grow over the year. If
your audience has grown, your reachhas grown. And then you have the
Sun training Saturn, which Saturn isthe planet of responsibility and commitment and discipline
and sticking things out. So that'salso really good for a business chart because
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if you don't have saturn, itcan be very easy to either you know,
loose track of what's happening, ornot be as disciplined or not stick
to the plan. So you havethis really wonderful mix of like expansion but
also in a way that's measured andthat and basically that you guys were whether
you knew it or not, it'senabled you to keep doing this sustainably and
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consistently over time. Wow, It'sIt's interesting because I believe that when you
read our snistry that we also personallybetween our two signs, we had some
interesting trines that made it so thatour relationship as friends would be strong.
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And I have to go back andlisten to it now because I can't remember
exactly, But that's interesting that wewould have that personally together, but then
have it happened again for the show. M Yeah, And I think that
kind of kind of cements it all, and it's why the show kind of
sorts like a vehicle revessel for allthat to come together and work a interesting
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That's crazy because in my mind itwas operating in in my regular non Gemini
mind, I was operating in youknow, just like you know, show
up for the other person. Beresponsible to your due diligence, don't give
up. Always just in the background, and we always say this on the
show. You know, caast don'tlast past seven episodes or whatever the weird
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terrible number was. So my thinghad always been just make sure we beat
that and every day, just beatthat. And so the fact that it
was born to keep trying, it'spretty cool because it hasn't always been easy
and here we are, and evenmore so because the rising sign or the
ascendant of the podcast is Capricorn,which is the planet that's ruled by Saturn,
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and Capricorn is that energy of youknow, Capricorn, I always say,
is the slow and steady energy thatgets to the top of the mountain.
That's why Capricorn is represented by themountain goat, which is not the
fastest animal by any means, butit's the one that does get to the
peak. You know what I mean? See what I'm saying, Yeah,
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do oh my gosh. H slowand steady and sometimes it's slower, sometimes
it's not that steady, but it'son the tracks and that's what matters.
And you have to know, wewill pep talk each other like no,
No, that's cool. It isWe're gonna get there. Like so many
times when we think we're falling off, and we're not falling off. We're
just regular people who have lives outsideof making this show. But like the
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show in a weird way is stillprioritized, and like, I don't know
where that comes from, because Ihave a lot of stuff well, and
I would attribute a part of thattoo. And this is why the fact
that the moon isn't Taurus is avery big help for this chart, because
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there's so much Gemini that if youhad also the moon and Gemini, it
would be a little bit scattered andcould easily go and way too many directions
and there would be no focus.But the moon and Taurus is what gives
the podcast also this backdrop of likestability and groundedness. And I think that
with the Capricorn ascendant, it's likea really good blend to all the Gemini
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chatter and ideas that needs a framework, and that's what the Moonataurus provides.
Now another thing that's interesting and I'mjust wondering. So at the bottom of
the chart there's a very sensitive degreethat's called that's labeled or called the IC,
the letter I and the LETTERACY,and that's considered the base, the
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foundation of the chart, and ifthere's any planet very close to it,
that planet takes a lot of prominence. And you have and you have the
planet Uranus right on I mean it'snot even next to it, it is
right on top of the IC.Now that's interesting because Urinus in astrology is
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a planet that rules things like lightningand electricity and earthquakes. It's a very
unexpected energy. It can be disruptive, it's not a bad energy. But
when there's so much Uranus in achart, which I think there is here
because it's so prominent, it talksabout this a lot of the trajectory of
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the podcast being something that comes atyou, maybe in waves or unpredictably,
or that something new to you andthat you're kind of getting used to it
as you go along. Does thattrack totally Yes, Yeah, I mean
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I think just thinking like most recentlywe were talking about like we were both
having this like weird creative block,and I think sometimes will come into it
and there's there's not always a lotof like pre planning of like what we're
going to talk about. And recentlywe had probably like a good what four
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weeks where every time we'd sit down, we were like and we we thought
that it was a lot of theoutside stuff that was happening for both of
us personally, and then that waslike kind of blocking that ability to sit
down and be creative. But Ido feel that over the years we've had
these kind of like waves where likewe'll be like super hyper focused and like
super and like and all of thesethings are coming, and then there's times
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where it kind of like pulls backand we're kind of like sitting in this
place of like not knowing like directionsor what to talk about or you know,
where to take things. And soI feel like we've been really feeling
our way blindly through this whole processfrom the start. And I would say
that with uranus at the base ofthe chart, it means that that actually
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is the key to this working.If you were to I'm not saying you
would ever do this necessarily, butif you were to say, you know
what, starting from now on,we should always have like all the topics
and an agenda, we have tothink about them ahead of time, that
would actually not work with this chart. So all this on the flyness is
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actually good. But you still havethe discipline of no matter what, we're
going to show up week after week. But this whole thing of kind of
improvising or like, when we getthere, we'll decide what to do.
That's at the heart of this chartand it's why it works. Okay,
that's good to know because when andwe talked about this on a recent episode,
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when we're trying to take an appropriateamount of what's going on in our
real lives and share it as wesee fits, sometimes after the end result
and we go back and we listento it, it feels like, okay,
this feels over Sharry on my partor are you sure you want it?
Are you ready to share that pieceof yourself there? Because what people
have to understand is while we doknow each other and we have created a
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friendship, we are also still figuringout what are you willing to share online?
And sometimes we'll think it's good togo, we'll hang up the phone,
and then we'll get to the editingprocess, and one or the other
we'll say, who, I don'tknow if I could say that just yet,
or I'm not ready to say that. Can we take that piece out?
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But then we still keep it,but we work around it. But
the reason why we keep it inand work around it is because the whole
premise of the show is to begetting to know each other and that's a
piece that we just got to know. So and we have tried before,
like let's put some topics in athing so that when we get into these
weird ruts, which are like babyhot with the writer's block for a podcast.
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So when we get into these ruts, we could do that, but
then we find that we'll go andwe'll have a thing and we'll say what
the topic is supposed to be,We'll get it, we'll do it,
and then we'll listen back on MOO. Though. That didn't feel like us
though, and we've had this multipletimes and we really just thought it was
whatever podcasters block is. And inthis chart is because at the heart of
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this chart or for it to work, it's all about you know. It's
interesting because I think the Saturn,the capriformed, the Torus comes from We're
not going to give up on this, We're going to keep going. But
so that's where the grounded discipline comesfrom. But the Gemini energy that's very
in the moment, and it's urinousenergy is saying that's that's what makes this
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that's the heart of of this podcast. So too much planning. It's gonna's
gonna actually play against you well,and that makes me feel really good because
at at the core of things,I like a plan and I like to
know where we're going, and itmakes me feel secure and like I'm doing
something if I'm doing that, andit feels like counterintuitive sometimes to just feel
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like we're flying by the seat ofour pants. But then I'm like,
well, it's been working for thislong, so we might we might as
well just keep doing it. AndI have I have been worried before because
like I understand, as you getto know somebody, it's kind of you
know, this is my other marriage. I have figured out, Okay,
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she needs to feel like there isa plan she needs to know, so
like I've figured out how to communicatewhat I need to do. So like
I'll say, do you I'll wakeup in the moren remember what Amanda needs
is to know a plan, soI'll wake up in the morning. We're
like, what time would you liketo record on EDSTA even though I don't
really need to know that I justliked. I just know that she needs
to know that. And then ifI write it down and I followed the
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options she has had to, shehas had to kind of I guess,
get used to my las fair,you know, and she has. And
then at the same time, Ithink her preparedness has made me be like,
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Okay, I got to be atleast half prepared and like, so
it does work well, and Ithink I think the show would not be
as good if we were, youknow, time to down to the minute
of where it is we're going togo and how we're going to do it,
because we put some amazing things outour ass well. And that's why
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this works because remember that from eachother. Both of your moons are very
different, right because Amanda, youhave your Moon and Taurus, because the
moon is all about my needs,what I need to feel safe the moon
and Taurus needs planned structure or orderorganization. But let's say you have your
moon and Statitarius, which is themoon of like, you know, too
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much structure suffocates me and if everythingis planned to that hilt. So this
is good because it's it's allowed bothof you too for your respective moons to
work on the ship that they haveto work on. It's so funny hearing
that back again because when we metin December, we were both trying to
be respectful of one another's time,and she was like, I'm not trying
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to encroach on your vacation and Iwas like, I'm not trying to encroach
on your real life. And wefigured out like I realized we were only
going to see each other for likefour hours on one day, and I
was like, wait a minute.I came all the way out here,
like I want to see you,like I need to know, like we
got we gotta figure this out andget together. Worried. She's like,
well, I'm not trying. Sothat's so funny because all of these things
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that have happened over the last fewyears. I'm like, oh my god,
that makes so much sense. Andwhat's crazy is when we met in
December and we were both like weboth believed we were honoring each other's boundaries.
We were both sitting in the spaceand not talking about it yet we
didn't even really have the conversation untilshe was already on route, where I
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was like, oh, should wekind of make a plan for what we're
gonna do since we also have nineteenchildren to wrangle while we do this.
So it's like, it's very interestingto know that it's the podcast working that
the way that it's supposed to beworking. And I'm also comforted by it
because so many times I've felt,I guess like I'm impeding the growth because
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of my flightiness. When now Ican pitch you gasses is actually part of
it, Amanda, not ready today. It's not a crutch that feels like
good, Yeah, it's not see, it's it's fine. Now. The
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thing in the chart we're going totalk about it all these technical issues that
keep coming up. So just alittle, just a little peek behind the
curtain for anybody listening or if you'rewatching this, you can clearly see we
are trying out some new technology.And as if you've listened to this or
seen an Instagram live for any amountof time, you will understand that technology
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is never our friend. We aredoing this new technology in Mercury retrograde.
And now Andy is like, thisis actually part of your story. Messa
keeps freezing and the reason for thatis that in this chart, Mercury the
planet of among other things, youknow, technology and communication is squared by
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or ninety degrees away from Neptune,and Neptune is not a bad planet.
But when Neptune is ninety degrees awayfrom something, the visual that I always
tell people is it just basically castsout a bunch of fog and mist that
makes things very difficult to work through. And here's doing that to Mercury,
which is a planet that rules technology. So not surprising that a chart that
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has a Mercury Neptune square encounters sometechnological issues that's also kind of built into
the chart, and funny enough,which is funny enough. That's the only
real challenge in this entire chart,by the way, and all this time
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we thought it was just Melissa's faultthat she was too old to understand how
to work any of these things.Had we only known, I feel so
bad we've been aiming her every everytime something goes wrong technologically that we really
know that it's the stars that areagainst us in this place. Yeah,
as she just got kicked off ofNow there is another interpretation of this too
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that I want to bring up,but I'll wait until Melissa comes back because
I want her to make sure thatshe hears it as well to her feedback.
Um, but well, the otherthing I'll say too is that this
is also a chart that has uma really nice blend of a lot of
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things in air signs but also alot on earth signs. So oh,
looka's here. I was like,this cannot and you know what I said,
I said, Andy Stars, theliteral moment that you said, now
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we keep talking about your technical difficulties, ladies dash that you know, the
little dinosaur that crossed across the screen. There's no Internet, That's all I
had. I was like, wow, wow, oh my god, I'm
like, I am so embarrassed.But well, one thing you missed that
actually is I think you'll you'll loveto hear is that once you once you
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are no longer in the in theIn the video here, Amanda was saying
how she felt bad that all thistime the thought was that all these technological
glitches were your fault, but nowshe understands that it's that it's part of
the chart. See yew a goingstuff around here? Yeah? Wow,
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Okay, because Mercury, which isa planet of among our things, technology
is basically challenged by Neptune that justthrows everything into this like very big fusing
place. So the fact that technologydoesn't work so well is partially related to
that. But the other way thiscan be interpreted too, and you don't
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have to tell me how this fitsof it does. But because Mercury is
also about ideas and thought, whenNeptune squares it, it can indicate that
maybe initially was this was there maybea lack of clarity initially on like what
this is going to be about andwhat you were going to do. Because
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that's Neptune Mercury, Like, let'sgo ahead, you just like blew our
collective minds. Yes, we recordedfor six months before we decided on what
this podcast was even going to beabout. Every week we sat down for
an hour and recorded and had thoughtwe were making one thing and it wasn't
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that. Oh my goodness, therewe go. And then we just kept
but again like the chart sit wejust kept showing up willie nilly every week,
not necessarily at the same time.Every time, we just kept showing
up, showing up, showing up. And I called it getting mojo,
That's what I called it. Solike we could have a technical name for
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it where I would be like,Okay, I don't know if we're ready
yet or I don't, like youknow, it was kind of like,
um, growing chemistry in the timebefore we put it out. But while
we were growing chemistry, we werealso trying to figure out, like what
is the angle because I think atone point we really thought it was about
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motherhood, but then kind of likean, the good news is that her
audio will be here in the backend. You just you come. Yeah,
yeah, it was while I wassaying, it's like we were growing
chemistry to kind of figure out whatthe zone was, and I called it
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getting like I called it getting mojo, so it would have a name,
you know, rather than like adifferent wow. But and I love that
it's happening as we're talking about thosetoo. Mercury square um. But yeah,
that that that's also another interpretation.It makes sense that when when when
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Neptune and Mercury are not jiving,that's what happens, that that that clarity
of thought gets a little bit foggy. But just like with the birth chart
of a person, these are allthings that you can experience and then work
through and work on. Hello again, Neptune is laughing at us. Do
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I exist? Oh? I wasjust saying too, Amanda, how um,
yeah, that that whole thing abouta little bit of maybe vagueness about
what it's about is very much alongthose lines. But I was saying too
that just like with the chart ofa person, it doesn't mean that just
because you have mercury neptune square thatit's something that will that you can't work
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through. It just means that it'ssomething you have to work through, and
then once you do, that's kindof considered Okay, it's been addressed,
it's no longer haunting you. Butif you don't address it's that's the kind
of thing that you just keep facingover and over. So I guess there
must have been a point where thatwas it like after the six months,
where it kind of became more clearand then you're like, Okay, this
is what it's about. It wasliterally like what a week before, a
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week or two before, yes,about a week before it was like okay
wait. And how it came tobe was the name of the podcast is
actually a glass jow leer. Oh, but Imperfect Strangers is a lyric insight
in one of the songs. ButI was just like, that's and the
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whole time we knew. It waslike, we don't really know each other,
we're getting to know each other.And when we were talking about it
being a mom podcast, we weretalking about being flawed moms because there's nobody
do so then I was like,okay, so then this will just be
And I think both of us hadalways, just in talking about motherhood,
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had always felt like, I don'twant that to be my whole, entire
identity. Sure I've had kids,but I'm also a whole person outside of
my kids. And then we werekind of like, how can we build
content around that? Because sometimes,you know, you don't feel like talking
about your kids. Sometimes your kidsare completely uninteresting to people who so you
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know what I'm saying. And Iwas like, I would like to make
something universal, and she felt thesame way, you know, so that
and I also felt like we didn'twant to encroach upon her existing her existing
content. So then it just becamewhat about it's just two strangers getting to
know each other, And then westarted getting down this rabbit hole of perfect
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strangers, imperfect strangers, Balky andLarry, etc. And that's how it
came to be. Now I'm happyto know that that too. Yeah,
absolutely and I was telling him,man that that's really the only challenge in
this whole chart if everything else isjust very very copasetic getting along. And
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I think it shows why to yourpoint from earlier, Um, you know,
it's made it past much much muchmore than seven episodes thirteen. Yeah,
yeah, well that's so good toknow. All right, So we'll
just keep that that big Capricorn energyand just keep being that slowgo to the
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top of the mountain. Yes,all right, well before we get in,
I believe in us when yeah,and he's given me some some good,
some renewed energy, because I feellike the things that we've felt lately,
it felt like just it just frustrating. It's just frustrating to come in
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and both of your ready to getgoing. And then you know, like
her one of her audio file isthis week, like it kept coming through
corrupt and I was like, ohmy gosh, like we had a whole
episode and now like where's the audio? But got that fix, got back
on track. But it's really interestingto to hear, you know, the
things that just came up within thechart and then to be able to directly
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relate those you know, I mean, for anybody that is still on the
fence. It's not like Andy's outhere, you know, pulling things out
of thin air, like it allmakes a lot of sense, and it's
not just like woo woo, well, and you know that's that reminds me
of one of the things that Ioften say in readings is that one of
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the many things that I love aboutastrology is that, sure, each astrologer
may present the information in their uniqueway, but we're all dealing with the
same source material. So what Imean by that is that when I'm doing
a reading for somebody and I might, for example, let's say that they
tell me, oh, is thereanything in the chart that talks about,
you know, how chaotic my upbringingwas? And I'll say what it is,
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and I tell them it's not justme saying this because you told me.
You can go to any astrology bookand look up this aspect that you
have and you'll see that that relatesto a chaotic upbringing. So I love
that because it also means that youcan validate anything I'm saying with the astrological
information that I had to learn,you know, when I got into this.
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So it's not just me saying,oh, I just have a feeling
that it's like, no, youcan go check. And I think that
gives people some peace of mind thatokay, so it's not just something that
was said because I said something andthen he's like, oh, let me
conveniently also say this. So Ithink that's one of the great things about
astrology that it can always be validated. I love that. I love that.
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I actually would with my first readingwhen he took out that when you
know, when he took out thatthing on this and you can see the
dial and all the little notches,I was like, hold on nowt That's
where I really clicked to me,like, oh, there's math to this.
This is not this is not justlike his interpretation of my feelings and
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him wanting me to feel good,because he also gets down to that underbelly
part of the chart and be like, okay, we got to get to
the ship now, So like itreally there's a science and a math to
it and a kind of like anintuition, but that's specific to his personality.
But the astrology part the chart don'tlie, you know, exactly,
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and that's why you can take youknow, your birth chart to five different
astrologers and maybe sure like their individualpersonalities will shine through. I mean one
will focus more on this or moreon that, But you're not going to
get five completely different readings because weall learned the same stuff. Well fantastic.
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As always, we want to extendagree big imperfect strangers hug to the
lovely Andy Balladi. Andy, thankyou so much for taking time out of
your busy schedule to record an episodewith us and be on the show.
If you're interested in learning more aboutAndy or learning more about astrology, you
can find him on Instagram at Astrologywith Andy All One Word. You can
also find him on the worldwide Webat Astrology with Andy dot Com. Over
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brand new course, how to Reada Birth Chart. Astrology with Andy dot
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so much by
While and today I am reading thechart of the actual podcast. Well,
in celebration of our third birthday forthis podcast, I reached out to Andy
and I said, could you readthe chart for the podcast? He was
like, absolutely, it give mewhen you released it where it was released
from. Like I had to givemy zip code and the time and all
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of that good stuff. And whoknew a podcast could have a birth chart?
Well, and that's a great pointactually, because one thing I want
to tell people that many may notrealize is that everything has a birth chart,
so not just people, but alsocompanies, countries. It's why you
know, you can read the chartof the United States or any country and
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kind of have an idea of what'scoming up. But with companies it is
important because in astrology, the mainbelief is that the time and day that
something begins kind of imprints a certainenergy, much like with the birth chart.
So this is why one of theis that I offer on my website
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is that if let's say that youare trying to launch your own business,
or you're thinking about when should Iopen my bakery or whatever it might be,
I can help you identify a handfulof dates that are better than others,
because there are some things that ifthey are in a birth chart of
a company or something that you're tryingto launch, it does point to a
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higher probability of more obstacles, morefrustration, success being harder. So that's
where it can help to have theright dates. Are you smoothing as precursive
girls? You really should have metme glory you start of this now.
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It's actually amazing because the chart ofthe podcast has minimal I mean, I'll
talk about what are the challenges,but it's a very good chart. Does
anybody come to you when they're planningtheir wedding date? This just popped up
as you were talking about like businesslaunching and ask about certain dates and then
make a decision on when they getmarried based off of that. Yes.
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And the thing is I always sayfor wedding charts, in my opinion,
it's more about the actual ceremony andhow the day will go because you're not
beginning your relationship with that person whenyou get married. So, you know,
some astrologers make it seem like,oh, if the astrology of your
wedding isn't the best in your relationship, I'm like, no, but you
met this person three years ago,so it's not. But what one of
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my pet peeps though, is whenpeople tell me, oh, I'm getting
married in two months, it's thata good day And I'm like, well,
right, it's too late. Evenif I tell you it sucks,
what are you gonna do? Likecancel? And you know, so it's
like, don't ask me if youalready made a decision, because then I'm
putting that very awkward spot. Andif you happen to look at the chart
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and it's not so good, Idon't want to, you know, be
Debbie Downer. So you also findas an astrologer that, like if you
were a doctor, and you know, like people are always like, can
you take a look at this andtell me if this looks normal? Do
you find that people in your lifehound you often for advice on decisions they
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should be making or what they're doingbecause you have such a vast knowledge.
Well, what I'll say is thatover the year, yes, in the
past, and that helped me todevelop very strong boundaries with people where and
this is more acquaintances, not goodfriends. But there was a time when
I have to help people. Yeah, I'd be happy to answer that you
can go to my website, bookor reading. I will totally talk because
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I think some people forget Yeah,well some people forget that, you know,
this is something that I've been learningfor literally for over twenty years,
that it takes time, it's askill set. Well, and I'm sure
that that Amanda, you probably havehad it happened, maybe with like people
asking you for advice on working outright. Yeah, yeah, you know,
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I just got athleticism and she hasto be in my orbit. Okay.
So but sometimes I think it's people, you know, sometimes not too
often, but sometimes people on Instagram. In fact, two weeks ago,
somebody started following me and within minutessent me a direct message saying sending me
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a photo of their chart and theirboyfriend's chart and said, hey, can
you look at this and tell meif we're compatible and what the challenges are?
And I said, um, yeah, I do relationship readings. Here,
it's a link to my website andif you want a book, that's
where you can. I mean,that to me was a little bit over
the top. Yeah that's a lotof work. Yeah yeah, so you're
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going to need a person to handlejust your inbox, you know what I
mean? So you could just goin there and get to swipe in.
Most people are are very respectful.So what have you been up to.
(05:34):
Well, I've actually met several ofyour listeners over the past year, who
you know, as a result ofme being on the show, have come
to me for reading. So that'sbeen fantastic. I love that I do
too. Yeah, and last monthor a few weeks ago, I launched
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my first online astrology class. Ohwow, it's it's titled how to Read
a Birth Chart because basically a lotof people who come to me for readings,
we're saying, well, you know, I know the basics, but
I want to know how to putit all together. So it's not astrology
one oh one. It's not likeif you've never even heard about any of
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this, it's going to be alittle bit advanced. But if you're somebody
who maybe has read about astrology forseveral years, you've had your birth chart
read, but now you're kind oflike, but how do I put everything
together into doing a reading? That'swho the class it's for. It's online,
you do it at your own speed, but there is on the website
there is a forum where you canask me questions and I'll answer them,
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but it's basically for one hour lessonsthat make up the whole class. Oh
wow, that's doable. Yeah.And also I purposely did it so that
you know, there's no homework,there's no reading, there's nothing of the
sort. You just kind of watchedthe videos and then you can apply the
knowledge yourself if you want to practicewith your family members, your friends.
But there's no actual work for thecourse either. So yeah, it's very
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very manageable. And once you purchasethe course, is that something that you
have like forever and you can referback to it and you're always available too.
Yes, once you have it,it's for life, and the course
is offered forever. It's not likea limited offering, so you know,
some people we're telling me, Idon't have the money right now, while
you can sign up in six months. There's no rush, so it's just
(07:24):
rolling enrollment. Yeah. And thenin the fall, I'm going to launch
a second class about how to predictwith astrology, like the forecasting part of
astrology. Wow. See, that'smy favorite part of my readings actually,
because you can get the information allyou want, but if you can't figure
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out how to apply it, towhat's going to happen in the future,
and like use the information that you'regiven to then change your overall behavior or
attitude. Then the point of thereading is missed because I'm gonna tell you
something, Andy, and everything youtold me in my reading in October twenty
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twenty one manifested itself in October drewOctober of twenty twenty two for that whole
calendar year, you know. Butthere were some things that I was in
control of and didn't apply myself,you know what I'm saying. But it
was all there, and it wasall within my region. I understood it
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because of that reading. Yes,well, that's why I always say that
I'm an astrologer who believe in freewill in the sense that the only thing
that comes up in an astrology readingwhen you predict or forecast is what are
the situations that you're going to encounter? But then you decide what you do
with that situation. So you know, it's not like I can predict how
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you're going to react, but Ican at least give you a heads up
of what's coming up. Yeah,and what inspired you to create your courses.
I've always enjoyed teaching One of thethings that I think I do very
well is I'm very good at takingcomplex topics and really like distilling them down
to the basics so that people whoare new to it understand it. Every
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time you explain something on your Instagram, I always feel like it is so
accessible and I love astrology and Ijust have scraped the surface and the things
that I know and understand, andgosh, I see people come into your
stories and ask questions, and I'mlike, it's like speaking a whole other
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language, and I think that itcan feel overwhelming or a little daunting,
but I love the idea because youalways do such a beautiful job of making
it very easy to understand. AndI walk away feeling like, you know,
even in that twenty second story,that I've learned so much more about
astrology or understanding my chart just hearingyou explain it. Thank you well.
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And that's it too that I wasalso being asked by people, have ever
thought about teaching a class? SoI started realizing that, oh, there's
interest here, and I like todo it. And you can sign up
by going to my website astrology withAndy dot Com. Up at the top
menu, there's an online class linkand the link is also on my Instagram
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bio, and then I purchased thecourse. I get started. How am
I learning? Am I reading?Am I watching videos? How are you
breaking down this information? It's allvideos. So I recorded basically, I
recorded myself doing four one hour presentations, okay, and so there's four topics,
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and then within each topic, Ibasically first cover the information and then
I bring up birth charts so youcan see how I apply what I just
taught you when I'm doing or reading. Oh that makes that I bet that
makes it so much easier because thenyou get that real time. Because I
feel like sometimes when I've taken acourse in the past, like I've done
classes on Tarot, it makes sensein the moment, but then when it
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comes to that application and you havequestions or something maybe comes up that you
didn't cover in your course, andthe fact that they can then come in
and ask you questions, that's reallyreally cool. Yeah. So I thought
it was important too. At theend of each lesson show at least one
or two charts where I'm like,well, here's how I apply what I
just taught you, And then Ithink it is important for people to be
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able to ask questions, but tryingto do live classes gets way too complicated
with people's schedules and timing. Sothat's why there's a forum where people can
ask me questions. And the greatthing is that then as a student,
you can read what other people areasking as well. So it's a public
forum, which of course is archives. So if you join the class in
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nine months and several people have takenit, you also see all their questions
and my answers about the course.Wow, that's cool. I'm so excited
for doing things. I'm doing thingshere, you are, indeed? All
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right? Well should we get intoit? Well, first I want to
know, Amanda, what is ouractual birthday time and place? I know
it's May, Okay, May twentysecond. We released the first episode at
midnight and it came from Cincinnati.All right. So The Imperfect Stranger's Podcast
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is a Gemini Gemini baby, yep. And there's quite a lot of Gemini
in the chart because that you havethe Sun, Mercury, and Venus all
in Gemini. So right off thebat, that already makes it a very
Gemini energy because in astrology we haveten celestial bodies, we have the sun,
in the moon, and then eightplanets. Of those ten, five
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are called personal Sun, Moon,Mercury, Venus, Mars. So you
have three of the five. Youhave Sun, Mercury and Venus and Gemini.
So the personal planets we give alittle bit more attention to because they
really kind of make up the bulkof who you are, whereas the other
planets are more generational planets. Sothat's a very Gemini energy. Also,
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the moon is in Taurus, whichis interesting because I know that that's your
sun sign, Amanda. So thething about a Gemini sun for a podcast
in particular is fantastic because Gemini isa sign of communication. It's a sign
of opinions, debates, ideas.It is a sign that rules podcasts and
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radio shows and magazines and newspapers.So this concept, especially of two people
who in some aspects have different viewson life and different perspectives and getting to
know one another, it's very that'sthe epitome of Gemini. It's getting look
at people through communication. Yeah,so smart. We didn't even know it.
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I might just lyings and plan thelaunch of the podcast around the idea
that wow. And then what's alsointeresting here is that and this is what
I was referring to by this chartbeing very positive. The Sun in this
chart is one hundred twenty degrees awayfrom so one hundred twenty degrees is a
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special angle called the tryne t rI N E. And things in trying
are getting along with each other andworking well together. So you have the
son of the chart trining Jupiter andtrining Satters. Let me break that down.
Jupiter is a planet that when it'sinvolved in a trine, it's all
about expansion and growth. And Ialways say when you're starting a business or
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launching something new, you want goodJupiter aspects because that points to easy growth.
If you don't have positive Jupiter aspects, it's easy for things to only
reach a certain point and then theystart fizzling, or for example, you
do it for three months and thenthe momentum dives down. So I think
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the Jupiter trine is what it's helpedyou to grow over the year. If
your audience has grown, your reachhas grown. And then you have the
Sun training Saturn, which Saturn isthe planet of responsibility and commitment and discipline
and sticking things out. So that'salso really good for a business chart because
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if you don't have saturn, itcan be very easy to either you know,
loose track of what's happening, ornot be as disciplined or not stick
to the plan. So you havethis really wonderful mix of like expansion but
also in a way that's measured andthat and basically that you guys were whether
you knew it or not, it'senabled you to keep doing this sustainably and
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consistently over time. Wow, It'sIt's interesting because I believe that when you
read our snistry that we also personallybetween our two signs, we had some
interesting trines that made it so thatour relationship as friends would be strong.
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And I have to go back andlisten to it now because I can't remember
exactly, But that's interesting that wewould have that personally together, but then
have it happened again for the show. M Yeah, And I think that
kind of kind of cements it all, and it's why the show kind of
sorts like a vehicle revessel for allthat to come together and work a interesting
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That's crazy because in my mind itwas operating in in my regular non Gemini
mind, I was operating in youknow, just like you know, show
up for the other person. Beresponsible to your due diligence, don't give
up. Always just in the background, and we always say this on the
show. You know, caast don'tlast past seven episodes or whatever the weird
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terrible number was. So my thinghad always been just make sure we beat
that and every day, just beatthat. And so the fact that it
was born to keep trying, it'spretty cool because it hasn't always been easy
and here we are, and evenmore so because the rising sign or the
ascendant of the podcast is Capricorn,which is the planet that's ruled by Saturn,
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and Capricorn is that energy of youknow, Capricorn, I always say,
is the slow and steady energy thatgets to the top of the mountain.
That's why Capricorn is represented by themountain goat, which is not the
fastest animal by any means, butit's the one that does get to the
peak. You know what I mean? See what I'm saying, Yeah,
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do oh my gosh. H slowand steady and sometimes it's slower, sometimes
it's not that steady, but it'son the tracks and that's what matters.
And you have to know, wewill pep talk each other like no,
No, that's cool. It isWe're gonna get there. Like so many
times when we think we're falling off, and we're not falling off. We're
just regular people who have lives outsideof making this show. But like the
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show in a weird way is stillprioritized, and like, I don't know
where that comes from, because Ihave a lot of stuff well, and
I would attribute a part of thattoo. And this is why the fact
that the moon isn't Taurus is avery big help for this chart, because
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there's so much Gemini that if youhad also the moon and Gemini, it
would be a little bit scattered andcould easily go and way too many directions
and there would be no focus.But the moon and Taurus is what gives
the podcast also this backdrop of likestability and groundedness. And I think that
with the Capricorn ascendant, it's likea really good blend to all the Gemini
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chatter and ideas that needs a framework, and that's what the Moonataurus provides.
Now another thing that's interesting and I'mjust wondering. So at the bottom of
the chart there's a very sensitive degreethat's called that's labeled or called the IC,
the letter I and the LETTERACY,and that's considered the base, the
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foundation of the chart, and ifthere's any planet very close to it,
that planet takes a lot of prominence. And you have and you have the
planet Uranus right on I mean it'snot even next to it, it is
right on top of the IC.Now that's interesting because Urinus in astrology is
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a planet that rules things like lightningand electricity and earthquakes. It's a very
unexpected energy. It can be disruptive, it's not a bad energy. But
when there's so much Uranus in achart, which I think there is here
because it's so prominent, it talksabout this a lot of the trajectory of
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the podcast being something that comes atyou, maybe in waves or unpredictably,
or that something new to you andthat you're kind of getting used to it
as you go along. Does thattrack totally Yes, Yeah, I mean
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I think just thinking like most recentlywe were talking about like we were both
having this like weird creative block,and I think sometimes will come into it
and there's there's not always a lotof like pre planning of like what we're
going to talk about. And recentlywe had probably like a good what four
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weeks where every time we'd sit down, we were like and we we thought
that it was a lot of theoutside stuff that was happening for both of
us personally, and then that waslike kind of blocking that ability to sit
down and be creative. But Ido feel that over the years we've had
these kind of like waves where likewe'll be like super hyper focused and like
super and like and all of thesethings are coming, and then there's times
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where it kind of like pulls backand we're kind of like sitting in this
place of like not knowing like directionsor what to talk about or you know,
where to take things. And soI feel like we've been really feeling
our way blindly through this whole processfrom the start. And I would say
that with uranus at the base ofthe chart, it means that that actually
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is the key to this working.If you were to I'm not saying you
would ever do this necessarily, butif you were to say, you know
what, starting from now on,we should always have like all the topics
and an agenda, we have tothink about them ahead of time, that
would actually not work with this chart. So all this on the flyness is
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actually good. But you still havethe discipline of no matter what, we're
going to show up week after week. But this whole thing of kind of
improvising or like, when we getthere, we'll decide what to do.
That's at the heart of this chartand it's why it works. Okay,
that's good to know because when andwe talked about this on a recent episode,
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when we're trying to take an appropriateamount of what's going on in our
real lives and share it as wesee fits, sometimes after the end result
and we go back and we listento it, it feels like, okay,
this feels over Sharry on my partor are you sure you want it?
Are you ready to share that pieceof yourself there? Because what people
have to understand is while we doknow each other and we have created a
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friendship, we are also still figuringout what are you willing to share online?
And sometimes we'll think it's good togo, we'll hang up the phone,
and then we'll get to the editingprocess, and one or the other
we'll say, who, I don'tknow if I could say that just yet,
or I'm not ready to say that. Can we take that piece out?
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But then we still keep it,but we work around it. But
the reason why we keep it inand work around it is because the whole
premise of the show is to begetting to know each other and that's a
piece that we just got to know. So and we have tried before,
like let's put some topics in athing so that when we get into these
weird ruts, which are like babyhot with the writer's block for a podcast.
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So when we get into these ruts, we could do that, but
then we find that we'll go andwe'll have a thing and we'll say what
the topic is supposed to be,We'll get it, we'll do it,
and then we'll listen back on MOO. Though. That didn't feel like us
though, and we've had this multipletimes and we really just thought it was
whatever podcasters block is. And inthis chart is because at the heart of
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this chart or for it to work, it's all about you know. It's
interesting because I think the Saturn,the capriformed, the Torus comes from We're
not going to give up on this, We're going to keep going. But
so that's where the grounded discipline comesfrom. But the Gemini energy that's very
in the moment, and it's urinousenergy is saying that's that's what makes this
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that's the heart of of this podcast. So too much planning. It's gonna's
gonna actually play against you well,and that makes me feel really good because
at at the core of things,I like a plan and I like to
know where we're going, and itmakes me feel secure and like I'm doing
something if I'm doing that, andit feels like counterintuitive sometimes to just feel
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like we're flying by the seat ofour pants. But then I'm like,
well, it's been working for thislong, so we might we might as
well just keep doing it. AndI have I have been worried before because
like I understand, as you getto know somebody, it's kind of you
know, this is my other marriage. I have figured out, Okay,
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she needs to feel like there isa plan she needs to know, so
like I've figured out how to communicatewhat I need to do. So like
I'll say, do you I'll wakeup in the moren remember what Amanda needs
is to know a plan, soI'll wake up in the morning. We're
like, what time would you liketo record on EDSTA even though I don't
really need to know that I justliked. I just know that she needs
to know that. And then ifI write it down and I followed the
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options she has had to, shehas had to kind of I guess,
get used to my las fair,you know, and she has. And
then at the same time, Ithink her preparedness has made me be like,
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Okay, I got to be atleast half prepared and like, so
it does work well, and Ithink I think the show would not be
as good if we were, youknow, time to down to the minute
of where it is we're going togo and how we're going to do it,
because we put some amazing things outour ass well. And that's why
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this works because remember that from eachother. Both of your moons are very
different, right because Amanda, youhave your Moon and Taurus, because the
moon is all about my needs,what I need to feel safe the moon
and Taurus needs planned structure or orderorganization. But let's say you have your
moon and Statitarius, which is themoon of like, you know, too
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much structure suffocates me and if everythingis planned to that hilt. So this
is good because it's it's allowed bothof you too for your respective moons to
work on the ship that they haveto work on. It's so funny hearing
that back again because when we metin December, we were both trying to
be respectful of one another's time,and she was like, I'm not trying
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to encroach on your vacation and Iwas like, I'm not trying to encroach
on your real life. And wefigured out like I realized we were only
going to see each other for likefour hours on one day, and I
was like, wait a minute.I came all the way out here,
like I want to see you,like I need to know, like we
got we gotta figure this out andget together. Worried. She's like,
well, I'm not trying. Sothat's so funny because all of these things
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that have happened over the last fewyears. I'm like, oh my god,
that makes so much sense. Andwhat's crazy is when we met in
December and we were both like weboth believed we were honoring each other's boundaries.
We were both sitting in the spaceand not talking about it yet we
didn't even really have the conversation untilshe was already on route, where I
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was like, oh, should wekind of make a plan for what we're
gonna do since we also have nineteenchildren to wrangle while we do this.
So it's like, it's very interestingto know that it's the podcast working that
the way that it's supposed to beworking. And I'm also comforted by it
because so many times I've felt,I guess like I'm impeding the growth because
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of my flightiness. When now Ican pitch you gasses is actually part of
it, Amanda, not ready today. It's not a crutch that feels like
good, Yeah, it's not see, it's it's fine. Now. The
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thing in the chart we're going totalk about it all these technical issues that
keep coming up. So just alittle, just a little peek behind the
curtain for anybody listening or if you'rewatching this, you can clearly see we
are trying out some new technology.And as if you've listened to this or
seen an Instagram live for any amountof time, you will understand that technology
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is never our friend. We aredoing this new technology in Mercury retrograde.
And now Andy is like, thisis actually part of your story. Messa
keeps freezing and the reason for thatis that in this chart, Mercury the
planet of among other things, youknow, technology and communication is squared by
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or ninety degrees away from Neptune,and Neptune is not a bad planet.
But when Neptune is ninety degrees awayfrom something, the visual that I always
tell people is it just basically castsout a bunch of fog and mist that
makes things very difficult to work through. And here's doing that to Mercury,
which is a planet that rules technology. So not surprising that a chart that
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has a Mercury Neptune square encounters sometechnological issues that's also kind of built into
the chart, and funny enough,which is funny enough. That's the only
real challenge in this entire chart,by the way, and all this time
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we thought it was just Melissa's faultthat she was too old to understand how
to work any of these things.Had we only known, I feel so
bad we've been aiming her every everytime something goes wrong technologically that we really
know that it's the stars that areagainst us in this place. Yeah,
as she just got kicked off ofNow there is another interpretation of this too
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that I want to bring up,but I'll wait until Melissa comes back because
I want her to make sure thatshe hears it as well to her feedback.
Um, but well, the otherthing I'll say too is that this
is also a chart that has uma really nice blend of a lot of
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things in air signs but also alot on earth signs. So oh,
looka's here. I was like,this cannot and you know what I said,
I said, Andy Stars, theliteral moment that you said, now
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we keep talking about your technical difficulties, ladies dash that you know, the
little dinosaur that crossed across the screen. There's no Internet, That's all I
had. I was like, wow, wow, oh my god, I'm
like, I am so embarrassed.But well, one thing you missed that
actually is I think you'll you'll loveto hear is that once you once you
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are no longer in the in theIn the video here, Amanda was saying
how she felt bad that all thistime the thought was that all these technological
glitches were your fault, but nowshe understands that it's that it's part of
the chart. See yew a goingstuff around here? Yeah? Wow,
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Okay, because Mercury, which isa planet of among our things, technology
is basically challenged by Neptune that justthrows everything into this like very big fusing
place. So the fact that technologydoesn't work so well is partially related to
that. But the other way thiscan be interpreted too, and you don't
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have to tell me how this fitsof it does. But because Mercury is
also about ideas and thought, whenNeptune squares it, it can indicate that
maybe initially was this was there maybea lack of clarity initially on like what
this is going to be about andwhat you were going to do. Because
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that's Neptune Mercury, Like, let'sgo ahead, you just like blew our
collective minds. Yes, we recordedfor six months before we decided on what
this podcast was even going to beabout. Every week we sat down for
an hour and recorded and had thoughtwe were making one thing and it wasn't
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that. Oh my goodness, therewe go. And then we just kept
but again like the chart sit wejust kept showing up willie nilly every week,
not necessarily at the same time.Every time, we just kept showing
up, showing up, showing up. And I called it getting mojo,
That's what I called it. Solike we could have a technical name for
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it where I would be like,Okay, I don't know if we're ready
yet or I don't, like youknow, it was kind of like,
um, growing chemistry in the timebefore we put it out. But while
we were growing chemistry, we werealso trying to figure out, like what
is the angle because I think atone point we really thought it was about
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motherhood, but then kind of likean, the good news is that her
audio will be here in the backend. You just you come. Yeah,
yeah, it was while I wassaying, it's like we were growing
chemistry to kind of figure out whatthe zone was, and I called it
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getting like I called it getting mojo, so it would have a name,
you know, rather than like adifferent wow. But and I love that
it's happening as we're talking about thosetoo. Mercury square um. But yeah,
that that that's also another interpretation.It makes sense that when when when
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Neptune and Mercury are not jiving,that's what happens, that that that clarity
of thought gets a little bit foggy. But just like with the birth chart
of a person, these are allthings that you can experience and then work
through and work on. Hello again, Neptune is laughing at us. Do
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I exist? Oh? I wasjust saying too, Amanda, how um,
yeah, that that whole thing abouta little bit of maybe vagueness about
what it's about is very much alongthose lines. But I was saying too
that just like with the chart ofa person, it doesn't mean that just
because you have mercury neptune square thatit's something that will that you can't work
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through. It just means that it'ssomething you have to work through, and
then once you do, that's kindof considered Okay, it's been addressed,
it's no longer haunting you. Butif you don't address it's that's the kind
of thing that you just keep facingover and over. So I guess there
must have been a point where thatwas it like after the six months,
where it kind of became more clearand then you're like, Okay, this
is what it's about. It wasliterally like what a week before, a
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week or two before, yes,about a week before it was like okay
wait. And how it came tobe was the name of the podcast is
actually a glass jow leer. Oh, but Imperfect Strangers is a lyric insight
in one of the songs. ButI was just like, that's and the
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whole time we knew. It waslike, we don't really know each other,
we're getting to know each other.And when we were talking about it
being a mom podcast, we weretalking about being flawed moms because there's nobody
do so then I was like,okay, so then this will just be
And I think both of us hadalways, just in talking about motherhood,
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had always felt like, I don'twant that to be my whole, entire
identity. Sure I've had kids,but I'm also a whole person outside of
my kids. And then we werekind of like, how can we build
content around that? Because sometimes,you know, you don't feel like talking
about your kids. Sometimes your kidsare completely uninteresting to people who so you
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know what I'm saying. And Iwas like, I would like to make
something universal, and she felt thesame way, you know, so that
and I also felt like we didn'twant to encroach upon her existing her existing
content. So then it just becamewhat about it's just two strangers getting to
know each other, And then westarted getting down this rabbit hole of perfect
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strangers, imperfect strangers, Balky andLarry, etc. And that's how it
came to be. Now I'm happyto know that that too. Yeah,
absolutely and I was telling him,man that that's really the only challenge in
this whole chart if everything else isjust very very copasetic getting along. And
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I think it shows why to yourpoint from earlier, Um, you know,
it's made it past much much muchmore than seven episodes thirteen. Yeah,
yeah, well that's so good toknow. All right, So we'll
just keep that that big Capricorn energyand just keep being that slowgo to the
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top of the mountain. Yes,all right, well before we get in,
I believe in us when yeah,and he's given me some some good,
some renewed energy, because I feellike the things that we've felt lately,
it felt like just it just frustrating. It's just frustrating to come in
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and both of your ready to getgoing. And then you know, like
her one of her audio file isthis week, like it kept coming through
corrupt and I was like, ohmy gosh, like we had a whole
episode and now like where's the audio? But got that fix, got back
on track. But it's really interestingto to hear, you know, the
things that just came up within thechart and then to be able to directly
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relate those you know, I mean, for anybody that is still on the
fence. It's not like Andy's outhere, you know, pulling things out
of thin air, like it allmakes a lot of sense, and it's
not just like woo woo, well, and you know that's that reminds me
of one of the things that Ioften say in readings is that one of
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the many things that I love aboutastrology is that, sure, each astrologer
may present the information in their uniqueway, but we're all dealing with the
same source material. So what Imean by that is that when I'm doing
a reading for somebody and I might, for example, let's say that they
tell me, oh, is thereanything in the chart that talks about,
you know, how chaotic my upbringingwas? And I'll say what it is,
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and I tell them it's not justme saying this because you told me.
You can go to any astrology bookand look up this aspect that you
have and you'll see that that relatesto a chaotic upbringing. So I love
that because it also means that youcan validate anything I'm saying with the astrological
information that I had to learn,you know, when I got into this.
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So it's not just me saying,oh, I just have a feeling
that it's like, no, youcan go check. And I think that
gives people some peace of mind thatokay, so it's not just something that
was said because I said something andthen he's like, oh, let me
conveniently also say this. So Ithink that's one of the great things about
astrology that it can always be validated. I love that. I love that.
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I actually would with my first readingwhen he took out that when you
know, when he took out thatthing on this and you can see the
dial and all the little notches,I was like, hold on nowt That's
where I really clicked to me,like, oh, there's math to this.
This is not this is not justlike his interpretation of my feelings and
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him wanting me to feel good,because he also gets down to that underbelly
part of the chart and be like, okay, we got to get to
the ship now, So like itreally there's a science and a math to
it and a kind of like anintuition, but that's specific to his personality.
But the astrology part the chart don'tlie, you know, exactly,
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and that's why you can take youknow, your birth chart to five different
astrologers and maybe sure like their individualpersonalities will shine through. I mean one
will focus more on this or moreon that, But you're not going to
get five completely different readings because weall learned the same stuff. Well fantastic.
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As always, we want to extendagree big imperfect strangers hug to the
lovely Andy Balladi. Andy, thankyou so much for taking time out of
your busy schedule to record an episodewith us and be on the show.
If you're interested in learning more aboutAndy or learning more about astrology, you
can find him on Instagram at Astrologywith Andy All One Word. You can
also find him on the worldwide Webat Astrology with Andy dot Com. Over
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at his website you can book areading or you can also enroll in his
brand new course, how to Reada Birth Chart. Astrology with Andy dot
Com Forward Slash Services, So thankyou very much to Andy and listen.
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