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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello, and welcome back to my podcast. So to be
honest with you, I have now recorded two episodes about
college life with Caira or whatever, and one of them
is basically just a whole bunch more rambling, and the
other one is just me talking about my first week
of school. So I decided today to do a little
bit more formal, a little bit more structured episode, less
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less of me necessarily talking, and more quoting in scripture study.
So I've been wanting to do this episode since, like,
I think May, let's go with May, because this episode
or this journal entry says May. So I'm gonna go
with May final answer. And I've been thinking about this
for a long time. I've been adding stuff for a
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long time. So honestly, I think what I'm going to
do is I'm just going to read through everything because
I've had enough time of me rambling and you've probably
had enough time of it too, so we're gonna break
things up and switch it up a little bit, all right, Okay,
So the titles you can see is called Trembling from Love,
and it actually is quoted from this very specific book
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that I just read in May. So to start off,
I'll start off with my little application challenge. So many
of you know that I write in my scriptures on
my Gospel Library app talk about how a verse is
related to my life right on my blog specifically, if
you read it's just a matter of when you will
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see a whole bunch of them on page two, something
I've been doing for a while since November sixth of
twenty twenty four, and I've missed several days here and there,
but I just barely began doing it again, super rejuvening
in my practice of it. Right, Okay, So this is
the scripture Ether five five, and it says, and if
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it so be that they repent and come unto the
Father in the name of Jesus, they shall be received
into the Kingdom of God. And this is what I
wrote day one hundred and seventy four May twelfth, twenty
twenty five, at nine forty one pm. This quote stood
out to me today. Quote. As church members, we accept
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a theology that represents a God who wins our affection, reverence, adulation,
and emulation not by brute force, but rather by making
himself eternally vulnerable to the pain of the human condition.
One more time, guys, just the same exact quote. As
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church members, we accept a theology that features a God
who wins our affection, reverences, ad elation, and emulation, not
by brute force, but rather by making himself eternally vulnerable
to the pain of the human condition. Continuing the quote,
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Christ has willingly taken on the pains, sins, sicknesses, and
suffering of our world precisely because he loves us and
thus wants his empathy to be perfect. Scriptural passages like
Alma seven, doctrine in Covens nineteen and Moses seven paint
to God, who very much resembles the Father. From the
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parable of the prodigal son. When the more obviously rebellious
son comes to himself and returns home, only enduring love
awaits him. Not only does he not have to plead
his case, not only does he not find his father angry,
but he doesn't even need to knock on the door.
From the description we read in Luke, it seems that
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even though the son has been gone for what we
take to have been weeks, months, or years, when he
arrives home, his father is actively scanning the horizon, watching
and waiting eagerly. When the father spots his son quote
yet a great way off. Close quote the father runs,
not walks, and falls on the son's neck, showering him
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and kisses and affection see Luke fifteen eleven through thirty two.
You can feel the intensity of the father's emotions by
the language we read in Luke. He is veritably trembling
from love. Close quote. All of that, by the way,
is from the book When Church Is Hard by Tyler Johnson,
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and he published it in twenty twenty four. And going
on with the challenge, this is what I wrote. The
part I italicized and bolded struck me deeply. I don't
remember what I bolded and italicized, but I just read
you all of that. As a divine being and the
the most powerful being of our universe, God does not
have to continue his eternal course of trying to bring
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his children home to him. I imagine that he could
just stop if he wanted to. Let me explain. Elder
ne La Maxwell mentions in one of his devotionals that
there is evidence in the scriptures that teaches us that
we don't know how many times Hemley Father has gone
through the Plan of salvation. If Hemley Father is the
same quote yesterday today and forever close quote end quote.
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His course is one eternal round close quote, and his
sole goal is to quote bringing to pass the immortality
and eternal life of man close quote. Then this earth
cannot be his first time going through the plan. To
say that this is his first time enacting the plan
is doubtful. So to connect all of this with the
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verse for today, Hemleyfather asks us to repent. He has
willingly made himself eternally vulnerable to our pain and suffering,
and all he asks of us is to repent, to
come unto his Son, to change, to grow, to become.
If we do those things, if we covenant with the
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Father through the Son, we quote shall be received into
the Kingdom of God clothes quote. That's wild, absolutely wild.
So I've decided I'm going to do the research and
the work to create a podcast episode with this information,
bearing my testimony of Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ's infinite
love for us. I think I'm going to call it
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Trembling from Love, though the title isn't written in stone
until next time. So that's that from May twelfth. And then,
like I said I was gonna do, I did. I
found more resources. So let's continue on. Neil A. Maxwell
said in his devotional Brim with Joy. It's very good.
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I recommend you listen to it. He said. What is
interesting is that joy has a way of renewing itself,
and the ripple effects of joy are constant and ever emanating.
Joy has a momentum of its own. Another great advantage
of joy, contrasted with pleasure, is that joy overrides routine,
which otherwise could make us bored. We don't know, for instance,
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how many times heavenly Father has been through the plan
of salvation before with other of his children elsewhere before
our particular sequence on this planet. God even hints at
the repetitiveness of his redemption when he says, my course
is one eternal round see First Fight ten nineteen almost
seven twenty DNC three two. Yet God is never born.
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But what might seem mere routine. Why, because of his
perfect love for his children, what he calls quote my
work and my glory clothes quote brings abundant and pure
joy Moses one thirty nine. Therefore, because God loves us,
he seeks with such vigor and long suffering to separate
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us from our sins, which he hates. This process of
separation is one reason why much of the pain and
suffering must be born a necessary thing if we would
share in his ultimate joy. Mind blowing stuff, right, Okay,
This next part is from Henry b Iring's devotional The
Power of Deliverance, And like I said, I will do
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my best to quote this or to put the link
in the description. Okay, he said this, The Saviour's atonement
and resurrection give him the power to deliver us in
such a trial. Through his experience, he came to know
all our griefs. He could have known them by the
inspiration of the spirit, but he chose instead to know
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by experiencing them for himself. To close the depause, real click,
This is me speaking, not put enry by iroing that
blew my mind when I first heard it. It obsolutely
my mind that Christ could have understood our experiences, understood
our griefs, understood our pain by just experiencing them from
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the spirit, right, just by inspiration alone. But no, no,
he chose instead to know by experiencing them for himself.
The end part I just quoted, and the scriptures is specifically
the Book of Mormon. It mentions again and again according
to the flesh according to the flesh. Right, he wanted
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to understand according to the flesh, so that he could
help us and succor us according to our flesh, continuing
what President Iirring said, But he chose instead to know
by experiencing them for himself. This is the account. And behold,
he shall be born of Mary, after Jerusalem, which is
the land of our forefathers, she being a virgin, a
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precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and conceived
by the of the Holy Ghost, and bring forth the
Sun yea even the son of God. And he shall
go forth suffering pains and afflictions and temptations of every kind.
And this that the word might be fulfilled which saith.
He will take upon him the pains and the sicknesses
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of his people, and he will take upon him death,
that he may loose the bands of death which bind
his people. And he will take upon him their infirmities,
that his bowels may be filled with mercy according to
the flesh, that he may know, according to the flesh,
how to succor his people according to their infirmities. That's
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the that's from the scriptures present. Iron continues. Good people
around you will try to understand your grief at the
passing of a loved one. They may feel grief themselves.
The Savior not only understands and feels grief, but also
feels your personal grief that only you feel, and he
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knows you perfectly. He knows your heart, so he can
know which of the many things you can do that
will be best for you. As you invite the hole
it ghost to comfort and bless you, he will know
where it is best for you to start. In the
same devotional, he says trials can produce resentment or discouragement.
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To pause, real quick, isn't that true? Sometimes we experience
something so hard that we resent God and we resent Christ,
or we resent someone in one of our loved funs,
or maybe even ourselves. Right, continuing, trials can produce resentment
or discouragement. The humility you and I need to get
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from the Lord to lead us by the hand comes
from faith. It comes from faith that God really lives,
that he loves us, and that what he wants, heart
as it may be, will always be bust for us.
The Savior showed us that humility. You have read of
how he in the garden while he was suffering a
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trial on our behalf, beyond our ability to comprehend, or
to endure, or even for me to describe. You remember
his prayer, quote Father, if thou be willing, remove this
cup from me, nevertheless, not my will, but thine be done.
Close quote present iron continues. He knew and trusted his
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heavenly father, the Great Eloheim. He knew that his father
was all powerful and infinitely kind. The beloved son asked
for the power of deliverance to help him in humble
words like those of a little child. The Father did
not deliver the son by removing the trial for our sakes.
He did not do that. And he allowed the Savior
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to finish the mission, to finish the mission he came
to perform. Yet we can forever take courage and comfort
from knowing of the help that the Father did provide.
It looks like I didn't finish the quote. That's all
I wrote, or all I copied and pastes of. But
that man that was powerful? Did you hear that? That
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was crazy? One part that really stood out to me.
The father did not deliver the son by removing the
trial for our sakes. He did not do that. Whoa
right whoa, Okay, this is from I don't know what
it's from. Actually I figured it out. It's from a
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book that's called The Christ That Heals. So that's kind
of awkward, Tarrell and Fiona Gibbons said, and I'm sorry,
but I don't know where I got this from. Once again,
it's from a book that's called The Christ That Heals.
Maybe chat will know. The astonishing revelation here is that
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God does set his heart upon us, and in so doing,
God chooses to love us. And if love means responsibility, sacrifice, vulnerability,
then God's decision to love us is the most stupendously
sublime moment in the history of time. He chooses to
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love even at necessarily at the price of vulnerability. This vulnerability,
this openness to pain and exposure to risk, is the
eternal condition of the divine. Isn't that wild? That's wild, guys,
that's wild. Okay, moving on, So from November twenty fifth,
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twenty twenty four, I wrote this little thing on here
and this is on the Scripture third five, seventeen twenty five,
and it says, and the multitude did see and here
and bear record, and they know that their record is true.
For they all of them did see and hear every
man for himself. And they were in number about two
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thousand and five hundred souls, and they did consist of men, women,
and children. And this is what I wrote, two thousand
and five hundred souls. Right. Let's say he spends fifteen
seconds with each person. That's it, just fifteen seconds with
two thousand and five hundred souls. Fifteen seconds, that's all.
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Fifteen times twenty five hundred is thirty seven thousand, five
hundred seconds. Okay, we divide that by sixty. That is
six hundred and twenty five minutes. And we divide that
by sixty and that is ten point four two hours.
So if he took only fifteen seconds with each person,
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fifteen seconds, and that's it, which there's no way he
would have stood there for over ten hours. That's crazy,
that's bonkers. But he did it because of love. This
next quote is from Choose You This Day from twenty
eighteen by Elder Renland, and he said, our heavenly father's
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goal and parenting is not to have his children do
what is right. It is to have his children choose
to do what is right and ultimately become like him.
If he simply wanted us to be obedient, he would
use immediate rewards and punishments to influence our behaviors. But
God is not interested in his children just becoming trained
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in obedient pets who will not chew on his slippers
in the celestial living room. No, God wants his children
to grow up spiritually. To grow up spiritually and join
him in the family business. God established a plan whereby
we can become heirs in his kingdom, a covenant path
that leads us to become like him, have the kind
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of life he has, and live forever as families in
his presence. Finally, to close up with words from President
Nelson from The Everlasting Covenant, he said, all covenants are
intended to be binding. They create a relationship with everlasting ties.
Once we make a covenant with God, we leave neutral
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ground forever. God will not abandon his relationship with those
who have forged such a bond with him. In fact,
all of those who have made a covenant with God
have access to a special kind of love and mercy.
In the Hebrew language, that covenant till love is called
has said, has said, has no adequate English equivalent translators.
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Of the King James version. If the Bible must have
struggled with how to render, has said in English, they
often chose loving kindness. This captures much, but not all,
of the meaning of Has said. Other translations were also rendered,
such as mercy and goodness. Has said is a unique
term describing a covenant relationship in which both parties are
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bound to be loyal and faithful to each other. Has said,
is this special kind of love and mercy that God
feels for and extends to those who have made a
covenant with Him and we reseparcate with ha said for him.
Once you and I have made a covenant with God,
our relationship with Him becomes much closer than before our covenant.
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Now we are bound together because God has has said
for those who have covenanted with Him, he will love them.
He will continue to work with them and offer them
opportunities to change. He will forgive them when they repent,
and should they stray, he will help them find their
way back to Him. Once you and I have made
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a covenant with God, our relationship with Him becomes much
closer than before our covenant. Now we are bound together
because of our covenant with God. He will never tire
in his efforts to help us, and we will I
ever exhaust his merciful patience with us. Each of us
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has a special place in God's heart. He has high
hopes for us. That is the end of the quote
that I chose to share. I hope you didn't get
annoyed with how I read things this episode. I know
I don't normally read things like that, but I don't know.
This topic feels so important to me, and the resources
and the talks and the scriptures that I found really
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do blow my mind. When President Iring talked about how
Jesus Christ could have understood our experiences and our pain
just from the spirit, I was like, WHOA, that was
an option? But no, I mean, I guess it was
an option, but he did not choose that. He chose
to suffer according to the flesh, so that he could
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sacri us according to the flesh, according to our infirmities.
It's incredible, it really is. And the fact that God
makes himself eternally vulnerable, He makes himself vulnerable, vulnerable, and
why because he loves us? Because he loves us, isn't
that awesome? Isn't that amazing? Isn't that incredible. Man, It's
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good news. That's all I've got to say. God is
so good, he really is. And I hope that you
know that God, both Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother, both
Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost, that all of the
divine all of the Godhead love you individually. And if
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you have taken upon yourself the name of Christ, if
you have entered into the waters of baptism, and if
you have gotten further and taken out your endowment and
made more covenance with God. But even if you've started
with just one, just the covenant of Baptism, you have
left neutral ground forever. God will never tire in his
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efforts to bring you home. Isn't that incredible. I know
that what I've shared today and what I read is true,
and I know that in the deepest part of my being,
and I say these things in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
Thank you so much for listening. Don't forget to embrace imperfection,
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find meaning, satisfaction and joy from the journey. I'm Kira
and this is imperfectly broken. The podcast