Oz Pearlman: Raising Children is Magical

Host Barry Farber sits down with renowned mentalist and finalist of America's Got Talent Oz Pearlman, who shares his tricks for being a dad of three young children as he travels the country amazing audiences.

Episode Transcript

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Hi, I'm Barrie Farber, andthis is in search of the magic tree.
What magic are we looking for?Well, if you think about a
tree, several things come to mind. One the roots, the foundation for

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something great. Two the branches representingthe connection and continuation of our legacy as
we pass down the values and beliefsto the next generation. And three potential
something that starts as small as anacorn and becomes a giant oak. We're
going to explore how we can buildthe mind, body, and spirits of

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our children. How to raise ourkids with key traits like patients, positive
attitudes, courage, empathy, determination, and more. Join me on this
adventure as we talk to celebrities,athletes, entertainers, business leaders, educators,
brain surgeons and more about the magicto building success at an early age.

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Welcome back again. This is BarryFarber and you're in for a special
treat today. We have professional mentalist, magician, athlete, finalist of America's
Got Talent, But most importantly forsomething that will relate to this show.
Father of three, proud father ofthree. I don't know how he does
it, he traveled so much,but we're going to hear about that.
Os Perlman, Thanks for joining us, Buddy, the one and only,

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Barry Farber, How you doing,buddy, one and only? You know,
this is what I've been waiting for. We've had all these interviews over
the years, television, radio,podcasts, and it's a different version because
we can't see each other. Andfor the first time we're going to go
into the magic of the mind andthe podcast and learn about what you do,
more importantly, what you do howdo you raise three kids? Obviously

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you have a wonderful wife, butI'd love to start out right now about
what changed. How did it changeyour life with the three kids you have
now? Lewis, Theodore and asMay Right. Yeah, yeah, you
nailed it. How I married wayout of my pay grade? That that's
the number one answer, you knowwhat I mean. I think the most
pivotal decision in life is who youchoose to be your spouse and your partner

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in life. And boy, doI get lucky. I nailed it.
I don't know why she said yes, but join the club. You know.
That's the blessing is we have threebeautiful kids together. It's unbelievably joyful.
I think it gives a lot ofpeople a sense of what's most important
in life. You get a nicelittle reset that you're not numero uno anymore,
those kids are, and that youreally need to start to balance because

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I think the mortality kicks it,you know when you have kids. Until
then you're invincible. And I stillfeel invincible, but now I feel like,
hey, they're the most important thing, and you can't go backwards in
time. I'm sure you have andI have. We have the good fortune
of meeting people that are very influential, successful, wealthy in our lives with
my clients and friends, and Idon't care how much money you have in
the bank. That the clock keepsticking for everybody, and some of those

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memories when they're young and when theywant you in your life. You know,
when they're teenagers. I haven't gottenthere yet. You have, but
like I don't. I think they'regonna be like, Dad, get out
of here. I don't want tosee you. So while they still want
my presence, I'm trying to reallydo a delicate balance of building my business,
building you know, a nest eggfor them so that they have a
great future, but also being withthem, you know, sometimes having to

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say no. It's a powerful thingto say no, and that your time
with your family and your loved onesis more important than a paycheck. You
know, I'm thinking about all theaccomplishments you have. Is as an athlete
and running, I mean these marathons, which we'll get into. But but
how busy your schedule is, tellthe audience, you know, as as
a mentalist, magician, athlete,and all the things you do. How

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do you Because what's most important whenyou're with your kids is being there,
being there, present with them,not thinking about something, not on your
phone. What are some of thethings you do to really be there with
your kids and engage. I mean, probably procrastinate work more than I should
is probably the bad answer, butI just try to dial in. I'm
guilty as anybody else. But puttingthe phone away nowadays is borderline impossible.

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But you need to make a concertedeffort. I've got gleaned some of the
best information ever when I've been atvarious events, like I do corporate events.
I also sometimes do private parties.And I'll never forget I did an
event. It was a wedding,and I don't do that many weddings.
So this important and the father ofthe bride got up and he gave a
speech, and he talked about thefact that when he was growing up,
or when these kids were growing up, he made a concerted effort. He

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has three kids to every single yearhe does one trip with each kid individually,
and he says to them, what'simportant to you, not what's important
to me, is your parent?What do you love, what's your passion?
And getting to spend even if it'snot a full on trip, but
even an afternoon or a few hoursone on one with each of my children
were they're the only one I focuson. There is no sibling rival or
either there's no you know, doI have to take a phone call,

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And I really spend that time focusedon them. And I feel like that
reaps such rewards and such dividends becausethey've got you all to themselves. You
learn more about them, you getthat inner like stuff that they won't give
you when they're with everyone else.Um, And I really make that effort.
I make that a point, youknow, every single month, to
get a little bit of time oneon one with them as well as if

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you can, you know, withyour spouse. With my wife, it's
so important a date nights and justre check in because you lose a little
bit of that intimacy and that thatreal like knowing each other. You start
taking each other for granted. Whenit's all kids are all everyone together,
you need one on one time.That's really well saidos. You know I
was thinking about. You know,you don't realize how important is to spend

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the time with your kid one onone or your wife and not even say
anything because you're engaged in something theylove and their enthusiasm comes out and you'll
learn things about them and you reallydidn't know about them until you you just
stop talking. And that's what I'mgonna do. Now. I'm gonna ask
you something because the book The Adventuresa Little Billy in Search of the Magic

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Tree, which you read to yourkids, and I appreciate the quote you
gave. Yeah, they love itand they got a kick out of it.
With great illustrations, good message,a lot of fun, kept them,
kept their attention, Barry, that'snot an easy thing. I got
kids runned around, so if Ican get them settled in. I should
have gotten a photo for you,but I usually put the phone away during
storytime, but I had my daughteron my lap. You know, each

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kid has their own little they havetheir little mini couches with their names on
them. You know, the standardpottery barn gift. When somebody's kids born,
they were all nestled in man.They liked it, They enjoyed Little
Billy I love it and just justa pleasure to know that you read to
them. I don't need pictures.That's just it's a great feeling to hear
that. But there's five messages inthere. You know. We talk about
courage, patients, attitude, determination, empathy, and how we can get

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the kids at an early age tounderstand that in their own way. So
I wanted to ask you, beingsomebody who can read minds in body language,
and how you get to such acognitive level with people. What do
you How do you teach empathy tochildren? Is there something that you do
or is there something from those differentattributes that you do with your kids.

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So I think empathy is so importantin younger kids and throughout I mean even
an adults to be honest and oneof those things that we instill in them
from a young age. There's somebodyonline named doctor Becky's just incredible advice.
I follow her Instagram, my wifekind of put me onto her and where
instead of saying I'm sorry, whichyou know you want your kids to obviously
feel they're sorry, but saying I'msorry, it's very easy to just roll

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off the tongue if you hurt someone. Instead, we always have them check
are you okay? And that allowsyou to have some sort of sense of
how that other person is feeling,really instituting the golden rule and letting them
know, how do you think somebodyfeels when you do this to them,
and just set that at a youngage, I think it's goes a little
deeper into your mind as to givingyou a set of morals, guiding principles,

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and really just the idea of givingback and realizing how fortunate we are
to have a roof overhead, tohave food every day, like things that
not everybody has. And I thinkat a young age, you only see
the world through your own eyes andthe people around you, and it's just
so important to have that gratitude andknow how lucky you are and to find
a way to give back to otherswho aren't is fortunate. And so I
make a point of that on avery regular basis. There's a saying from

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a book in the twenties called IDare You, and it was catch a
passion for helping others and a richerlife comes back to you. And you
know, when my kids were veryyoung, even though some people said it
might not be a good idea,because we were bringing food and packing it
for people who couldn't get out ofthe house or had disabilities or problems,
and they saw some really bad situations. But I can't tell you how many

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times they look back and they talkabout that, and it's that appreciation of
hands on approach that makes them realizehow lucky they are. And that's a
great thing you're doing with your kids. I can't go on this show for
so long and talk about your accomplishmentswithout being amazed at you know, at
age fourteen, you were performing kidsshows and I was curious, how did

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you learn anything from that? Withworking with these kids? Then I learned
early on how to maintain people's attention. And I think kids are the toughest
audience by far, because kids willbe brutally honest with you. They're not
going to sugarcoat, especially the fouror five and six year olds. They're
going to really let you have it. You know, they don't have the
social niceties in place yet that adultssometimes do. I think it just came

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a matter of learning how to getpeople's attention, learning how to maintain their
attention. I saw very early onkind of a sense of which kids I
felt were well raised, well disciplined, came from homes where I think the
parents are instilling strong values in them, versus kids that kind of just ran
them up and did whatever they wantedand never had those guidelines. Like I
don't really see discipline is as important, but as a parent, think of

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myself as the guardrails. You know, if you're driving on a road and
there's no guardrails and it's late atnight and it's dark and it's kind of
wrapping around, you might fly offthe guardrails. So I'm there to kind
of provide my kids those boundaries whereI don't want them necessarily be scared of
me. I want them to loveme, but I want them to also
know that I'm the adult, andI'm giving them the rules to live by
based on, you know, thethings that I've learned over time, and

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I just I find that very important. There's a lot of parenting styles that
involve kind of just let them dowhatever they want. And I see my
role as being somebody who provides youthat guidance in those boundaries and those rules.
To say that you don't have determinationand a work ethic is crazy because
what you've accomplished with even when youwon the Chicago fifty mile Ultra Marathon in

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twenty fifteen, five hours, twentyfive minutes and twenty and twenty six seconds
and also ran the Iron Man,all the different things you do, do
you do anything unique to teach themwork ethic at a young age. I
mean, what goes on with youand your wife that happens during the day
with the kids when you're with them. I mean, I try, But

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some of this stuff is so Idon't know if it's it's nature or nurture.
For example, I was just veryvery obsessive, you could call it
or passionate wherever you would. Butif I took an interest or a fancy
in something, I would become verydriven and obsessed with it. And I
think that's an internal character trait.I don't know if that's something that's trainable,
because I don't really see it inmy sisters who are raised by my
parents as well. I think it'sa bit innate and to a lot of

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people. Once you find something youreally love, you jump in, right.
That's the case if it's something youdon't like, like For example,
I liked math, so math wasinteresting to me, so I was very
focused and I would do well atmath, and I loved learning it because
I found it interesting, versus Ihated English class in writing papers, and
you could have tried to force aroundpeg into a square hole and tell me
write more papers. Do this,but if I didn't like it, I

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think the best part of life isfinding the things you like and seeing what
you can do with them. Arethey just going to be a hobby of
passion or can you actually convert it, in some very lucky instances, into
your living, in which case itdoesn't really feel like work as much.
It feels like something you love doing. I have friends who are computer programmers
who have loved doing that since theywere young, and now the fact that
they get to do it for aliving. Keep in mind, I'm sure

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at some points it still feels likework. You'll still complain, you know,
I'm still a neurotic jew I'll finda way to complain Barry, But
at my core, I love it. I love what I'm doing. When
I go in front of a crowdand do a show for thirty five people
or ten thousand, I'm getting thatrush, that fulfillment, and that feeling
of how will this work? Everytime I do it is kind of jumping
off a cliff and not knowing exactlywhat will happen. There's something interesting about

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being a parent. You could readall the books on it, you could
do this, but you're really learningas you go. And I can't even
tell you how many times I thoughtto myself. You know, I remember
interviewing a few brain surgeons at differentuniversities and they talked about the child's mind,
and it got me all excited aboutit. So I started doing things
a little differently. But is thereanything that you know with reading? Or

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I know that you read to yourkids. I know that you're you're passionate
about learning, But is there anythingthat you're doing that you feel I want
to share this with parents because Ibelieve this really helped. And then is
there anything that you think you knowparents shouldn't do or you see parents doing
wrong that's I mean to judge otherpeople as to what they are and aren't
doing correctly. The one thing thatI think is huge, and especially today,

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it is screen time, which isI see a lot of kids that
just from such a young age,and they've done so many studies about this
that below the age of two.Giving kids like a lot of screen time
on a daily basis, it rewiresyour brain and all of us as adults
are just getting so hooked on phones, myself included. I'm guilty. I'm
not judging anybody to put your phoneaway for you know, an hour,
two hours, or an entire day. I mean, you got to be

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in the jungle and not have WIif I not have any service, But
man, does it feel make youfeel reborn? I love putting the phone
away for a few hours and stayingfully focused in the moment. So yeah,
we try to really institute. Wedon't have TV or screen time for
our kids throughout the week. It'smore of a treat on the weekends,
and even then it's a little bitcontained so that they don't just go to

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it right away. I think itallows them to engage more with the real
world, and God knows, inthe future, they're going to screen time
non stop once they get a littleolder and they're more in control of their
lives. I mean, I havea first grade or a pre K and
then a two year old. That'swhat I think. But at the same
time, you're not going to putthat genie back in the bottle. The
screen time is here to stay,and in fact, if they don't know

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how to do it, they're gonnabehind the times. That's one of the
big ones. I think a lotof it is letting your kids kind of
curiosity guide you. I try tofind what interest them and then really jump
on it. Like my son lovesto play games, card games, and
so when we play Uno or whenwe play Sorry or all these different games,
I try to create a little bitof educational things within it. We
play Uno and I try to throwthe math in there and just try to

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kind of be enriching while having fun. Make learning fun is the big part
of it. And when it becomesa chore or you set it up as
okay, we got to sit downand we have to do your homework,
they will resist. But if youcan somehow pull that little slight of hand
trick and make them think, oh, we're playing a fun game and they're
learning while playing. That's the holygrail, right right, that's brilliant.
You know. I don't think there'sa show where the guest hasn't mentioned getting

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rid of the phone, putting itdown, turning it off, and focusing
on your child and seeing what's importantto them, find their passion or whatever
gets them excited, and really goinginto that. That's perfect. I love
that. I would love to know. You know. I think sometimes we
take it for granted that the kidstoday have more than than than we did,

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or they have a lot of thingsat their fingertips. So I was
wondering when like an is attitude?Do you talk about attitude? I mean,
you have an amazing attitude, Idon't know anybody, and especially dealing
with failure, you know, Imean to achieve what you did. If
you didn't have any failures, I'dbe very shocked. But do you teach
them about when something goes wrong andhow to deal with it and an attitude?

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How important that is or is too? Are they too young? No?
I absolutely do. I think thatkind of resilience, pick yourself up,
brush it off. It's a funnykind of joke. You only have
one kid. The people with onekid, the kid barely falls, doesn't
scrape and near anything. You runin, Oh my god, are you
kid? Then you have a secondkid. You kind of look and you
check if there's blood in the thirdkid. There's not a bone sticking out.
You don't even approach it. Youknow. That's like the games four

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five kids. It's like they're betterbe blood squirting. And we both have
three kids. I can relate.Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
So you realize these kids are nota you know, they're not a porcelain
doll that you drop and breaks.They're resilient. They need to get their
scrapes. They need to get theirbumps, they need to get some dirt
under their fingernails. We live insuch a sterile world, and especially some
of the people over the last twoyears where you have a pandemic and you
go really off the reservation. Kidsneed to learn some things for themselves.

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They've got to touch that stove onceto get a little burnt, you know,
don't catch on fire. But youneed to learn boundaries, and you
can't teach them that. It's somethingthat you know, I remember when I
was a kid. I didn't listento what my parents said half the time
because my parents were supporting role inmy life, like I was the star
and they are supporting cast members.As far as you're concerned, I didn't,
you know, I turned about nineteenor twenty before I realized my parents

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aren't just my parents. They're twohuman beings with their own life, and
you start to see them as Hey, they're just two people who had met.
You know that we're in each other'slife, But you don't really you
don't see your parents as adults,I find unless you're incredibly emotionally mature until
much later in life. So withmy kids, I think such a big
part of it is, Yeah,I want them to fail. I need
them to toughen up. And I'vehad tons of failures in my life.

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You mentioned America's Got Talent. Iwas a finalist. I got third,
you know what, Barry. WhenI tried out two years earlier, I
didn't even get on the show.So people tell me, oh my god,
I didn't get on. I go. Neither did I man, And
they're like, what do you meanI go? You know, you got
to be in the right time,right place, and with the right experience.
That was the universe telling me,hey, man, if I would
have gotten on that year with youknow, five or six hundred less shows

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under my belt, in a differentattit, I might have gone nowhere.
So thank goodness I got on whenI got on, and then I was
ready in that moment to deliver thebest performance possible. You know, don't
rush. Certain things in life comeat the right moment, and certain things
you have a startup, it goes, you know, belly up. You
lost all this money. See itas a blessing. Find the silver lining.
Say hey, you know what,maybe it wasn't supposed to happen right

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now. Maybe I'm gonna take whathappened and I'm gonna turn into a positive
down the line. You've got totake your attitude and adjust it to the
positive side. I mean, there'speople that, in two similar instances,
they get into a car accent,they lose a leg. One of them,
you know, goes down the pathof drinking, self destruction, drug
addiction. Another one starts, youknow, training, gets a prosthetic leg

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and is running a marathon three yearslater. These are not like pie in
the sky. This is actual differentforks in the road of what could happen
because you decide how you're going toapproach the curs in your life. If
you've got a positive disposition or onethat says, I'm not going to let
this drag me down. I'm goingto be better than this. And that's
something you learn early in life.And that could be a small bump in
the road or a huge, youknow, cataclismic catastrophe. And I don't

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want to teach my kids and I'mgoing to fix everything for them. I
let them try to fix things forthemselves. You know, it's it's refreshing
those that you're talking this way,because you know, I've watched your career
for many years and had you atevents and seeing you at events live and
not just on TV, and allthe shows you've been on, and I
see somebody who is like perfection,like I'm not when I watch these shows.

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He's got a mess up here,and I never see you mess up.
It's like my friends say, howdo you every time? People are
just blown away the falcons, tosports teams, to corporations, and then
I would figure it to myself,this is a kind of person that would
be like crazy, like disciplining theirkids and making sure you know because they
and you're the opposite. You're calm, you want to learn about what's important

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to them. You want to It'sa really refreshing to hear how you you
you're raising your children, and it'sit's nice to hear, well, I
gotta tell you the first thing,the first and foremost thing. Like again,
I think there's no parenting playbook.There's a million books, but you
got to learn for yourself. Thenumber one thing I want for my kids
is for them to know how muchI love them. And it's it's not
like I'm not saying this in acliche away, but I could literally get
hit by a bus today. There'sthere's no way. And if the thing

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they remembered most about me in lifeis that they like that I adored them
and love them and like that they'rethe most important people in my life,
I think that's number one. Everythingelse comes from that. I think if
your kids feel loved, then whenyou are disciplining them, there's never that
thought in my mind of oh mygod, I disappoint them. Do they
not love me? Like if itcomes from a place of love or your
parents absolutely love you, unconditionally.Then everything else, the other pieces fall

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into place. And I didn't realizethat until I met my kids. You
know, you think you do again. Everybody says it. And I had
a dog before, and I waslike, oh, I love my dog.
And then you know, you're afirst kid and you don't care about
your dog at all anymore. It'slike until you meet them and realize this
is hardwired into your DNA or itwas into mind that I just looked at
them and they were the greatest personI ever met in my life, that
that that's what I want. That'swhat I would want from them forever and

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to you know, know how muchI love them. And then everything from
that, like you know, ifyou're if you're disciplining them and they know
and they're you're mad at them orwhatever, they know you love them.
And I think that regardless of that, they will know that you're helping them.
Your number one priority is their wellbeing. What you just said,
you know, I still my kidsare my daughter's thirty, my sons are

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in their twenties, and I stillkiss them, I hug them every time
I see them, every time theyleave. I feel like every second is
so precious when I'm around them,because now they're all out of the house.
You know, I think back abouthow much you know you just want
to squeeze every drop of time withthem. For parents. When I hear
I can't wait for my kid toleave, I can't. Oh, it's
so good. They're out of thehouse. We're free, free. Oh

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my god. I live for them. I love them and and what you
give to them in love and caring, and what you just said comes back
tenfold because they see that, andI think doing that what you just said,
the discipline becomes easier because they knowyou care versus just doing it to
do it. So I'm thinking tomyself, I remember asking you what your
definition of success is. I wouldevery show, I'd say, what's your

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definition of success? And we cango back. But I'm just curious now,
since it's been after you've had children, what is it today? And
I'm sure you've talked a lot aboutit ready, but just what is your
definition of success today having a familylike this? Well, I mean there's
all different, you know, piecesof your life and as the way I
would describe to success, but Ithink overall, it's always having a drive

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to achieve now that that could bein an eat facet, But for me,
I need goals. I need Ineed very well laid out goals,
which if it's for a race,I'm gonna run the fastest race, or
I'm gonna if I'm gonna try andraise money for charity, I'm gonna try
and raise the most money I possiblycan. I want to exceed my own
expectations. I want to set thebar just out of reach. I want
to be jumping and you know justI can just barely graze the rim,

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but I'm not slam dunking yet.And that's what keeps me motivated in life.
It's not kind of accolades from thepast, kind of as soon as
something's done, I like to enjoyit, savor it, be mindful,
but also see what I'm still growingtowards in the future. And that that's
I think kind of a double edgedsword where some of the time I'm too
focused on the future to enjoy thepresent. And I think the kids really

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got me grounded in that regards,because you see it, it's like sand
passing through your fingertips. They growup so quick, every one of my
kids, they've gotten older and Ijust see it growing up and you tell
me, you know, twenty onethirty like that will happen in the blink
of an eye. I mean,if I could be lucky enough, and
then they're gonna be adults. Anda crazy statistic is that most people they're
kids, they will see them fornineteen years because you'll have them at your

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house until they're eighteen. But here'sthe crazy part. Let's say had your
kids when you're thirty, and ateighteen they moved out to your forty eight
you will only see them for onemore year. For most people if your
kids move away, because think aboutit, the next twenty six years of
your life. Let's say you seethem two weeks out of every year,
which is a lot. That's alot of time Christmas, Thanksgiving, hanakkah.
Maybe you get together for another fewdays. Twenty six times two is

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one year, and at that pointyou'll be seventy four years old. So
that's the average life expectancy. Soit's this crazy statistics, so you really
have to gobble it up. Ithink that being a good family unit where
me and my wife have a greatrelationship and if we have any issues,
we don't go to bed angry atone another. We talk it out,
We really get things out there,and I think learn from the mistakes of

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our parents passed like both of ourparents are divorced, which I think made
us very aware of how do wecommunicate better, how do we have a
great relationship so that our kids feellike they're in a loving, happy household.
And sometimes that's tough talk. Sometimes, like you said, work can
overwhelm, especially when you get bigamounts of success. You're on TV,
gigs are NonStop. Sometimes you haveto readjust and say to yourself, hey,

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money isn't the most important thing inlife. Sometimes other things are and
being there for that special birthday,or you have to prioritize your life,
and you know that can be areal challenge. That can be a challenge
for a lot of people who mightbe working two three jobs trying to make
ends meet. I'm not complaining whatsoever. Success is its own thing, but
at the end of the day,there's only twenty four hours. You have

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to decide what are you going tocommit them to, what do you prioritize
And for most people, I knowthere's things you're wasting time on. You're
on Instagram, you're you know,watching TV. At times there's things that
if you decided this was more important, you could pick up twenty minutes here,
fifteen minutes there, thirty minutes there, and suddenly have an extra hour
in the day. And maybe that'sfor working out, maybe that's for doing
projects with your kids. But thereis the time in the day that we

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all waste, that we fritter away, and you've you've got to decide what's
my top priority. Yeah, Ilove that. You know, you started
out with goals. And I'm abig fan of goals, and I wonder
sometimes when i'm you know, flounderingand saying, why am I not like
passionate and enthusiastic today, or andit's sometimes because I realized I need to
put more goals down. I needto break them down and look at it

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and start working on them more diligently, or you know sometimes but then what
you said was, you know,that's great, but you got to take
a step back and realize what's important. And somebody said to me years ago,
they said success without happiness is theworst type of failure. And it
made me think about some people whosay, look, I've I've got twenty
four rooms in my house, buthow many can I live in at one

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time? Who cares? What isthat happiness? What gives you happiness?
And I really I see those kidsand what you do with your family,
your whole family really gives a nicegrounded foundation. It's awesome. Yeah,
happiness, happiness for almost everybody,know, it comes from within, because
if you tie your happiness to externalsources, especially for me, I mean

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the entertainment industry, you can startto you know, you could start to
kind of believe the hype. Andthat's the worst thing that you can do,
which is I'm always thinking to myselfand I'm still enjoying. Keep in
mind, if I have a greatTV spot and I really enjoy it,
but I look, what did Ido wrong? What could I do better?
And if you're sitting there just givingyourself pats on the back, saying
how great you are and oh mygod, that's not going to make you
grow and improve. And So Ihave a great wife in the sense that

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she keeps my ego small. Iwalk through the room, you know,
I might have just been a staron stage for a thousand people. She
gets in here and she's like,there's some laundry that needs to be folded,
buddy, you know doing your mindreading some Well, she gets me
in check real quick, which Ithink is great. I have a great
set of friends that have known mesince I was you know, a teenager,
who again, they're not hyping meup. And I think that's very
good to get your ego in check. And this could be no matter what

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you do in life, and constantlystrive to do better. And I'm always
finishing a show. I take notesafter every single event I do, and
every show, I really give myselfvery tough critiques and say here's what I
could do better. And I thinkthat's what's had me improving over time and
rarely kind of just sitting in somesort of level of all, I'm great
and I'm good like that. That'sthat's a way to stagnate. You need

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to, finally to constantly assess yourselfand give yourself strong criticism that you can
do like worka will constructive critism,and listen to the people around you that
you admire and respect, because they'regoing to give you real talk. There's
a lot of great ideas that youshared. For parents, I don't care
where they are, what part ofthe world what you talked about today,

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But I want to you know,I remember reading that you you actually came
up with a DVD called Born toPerform Card Magic, right, And I
read that this DVD sold over onehundred thousand copies. But what was cool
was that it was the magic suppliergot the highest ratings in history with this
and and that's a heck of anaccomplishment in a business that has so many

(27:48):
of these products out there. AndI think about who you are for people
out there, if they want toknow more about you, and to go
to os Perlman dot com, ozpe a r O m an dot com
right, os yep. And it'sa weird name. It looks like,
oh, so when everybody thinks thatthey go away, is that Odz?
It should be os And it's likeit should be but it's an Israeli name,
so in Hebrew, the oways kindof longs with it's os. So

(28:10):
it's a weird one. It's likesomebody owes you money. And then the
big one is people don't go towebsites as much anymore. If you're on
social media, it's at o Zthe Mentalist, So that's on Instagram,
Twitter. That's honestly where I postall my touring information. You can watch
all my TV clips and if youjust want to waste a couple hours on
your phone, you know, goingdown a wormhole, you will have your
mind blown. I promise you thatI can attest to that. So it's

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at O's Mentalist, OZ the mentalist. So O's the mentalist. Honestly,
if you type in OZ and thenyou start typing, you're gonna see me
and doctor Oz. It's gonna bethe two of us h and you'll see
I'll be the one who who youknow, has the word the afterwards.
Okay, I mean I follow you, so I sometimes don't even read who
I'm following, but I follow theones that make a difference in my life.

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You want an Emmy for O's Nose. You know you've done some crazy
things. I just want to reallysay thank you for coming on today.
It's one last thing you want toshare with the public about what's going on
down the road for you. Youknow, big goals, big picture goals.
I had a show on NBC onean Emmy for it. Would love
to have another show. I'm gonnamake that happen. And this one's gonna
run for much longer a residency herein New York. So when you fly

(29:17):
in or if you live in theTristate area, you come see me ideally
on Broadway, but you gotta waitfor the time to be right. Verry.
When I do it, I'm gonnado it big, I'm gonna do
it right. And then just keepperforming, you know, living the dream,
getting to watch my kids grow up, stay healthy. Man, Health
is wealth. Any day that I'mrunning is a good day. It's a
pleasure. You're a good friend,a good person, and you know,
I really feel honored that you cameon again. I know we've done many

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shows, but it was really enjoyableand a lot of great info. Thank
you so much. Os awesome.Keep it going, everybody. Pick up
a copy of a Little Billy.Take it easy, everybody. Um