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Hi, Welcome to in section podcast. Hi everybody, Now, this podcast
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is not interviewing. It's two people, one of the ones in room and
one in the other, just havinga conversation about the most important topic currently
at the moment, consciousness. Sowelcome. I'd like to introduce my guests.
My guest, I'd like to introduceChris today. Chris is a talk
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show and podcast host and founder ofForbidden Knowledge News Wicked Wicked. Wicked show
brings to the conversation and an informative, interesting, and sometimes very controversial approach.
So everyone get ready, but I'veread that you can send me the
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money later. Okay, the mailin the mail about the conversation. So,
Chris, what is the human experience? If I knew that I wouldn't
be here, I'd have millions andI'd be telling everybody how to do it.
Oh, man, what a question? The human experience. I'm just
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now getting kicked in the ass reallyhard with my human experience and learning all
about it. I in no wayclaim to know what is going on here,
what our nature of reality is.But I have a little better idea
every day, and with each experiencethat I can't explain, I have a
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little better idea as well. It'sfunny how that works. But as far
as what I can tell during thisday, the human experience for me is
well, I guess I could godeep from the beginning. The universe everything
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consciousness, God's source. It's everything, communicating and learning and growing through me
and through you, and through eachindividual and through each animal and through each
tree, and learning about new experiences, growing from the experiences, seeking out
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knowledge, and continuing the ongoing transformationof expanding consciousness from the universe from source
to us and beyond. And Ithink that maybe a little bit about what
the human experience is about. ButI think to add to that as well,
is we Consciousness is so massive,and these individual pieces of consciousness are
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so different because of the different experiencesthat everyone has, different cultures, different
upbringings, that when we incarnate,we are seeking a different experience from a
previous incarnation. Okay. And Ialso think that each incarnation has somewhat of
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a stored consciousness from the previous individualto kind of keep that individual unique and
special, if you know what Imean. Wow, from look at that,
guys, I don't know, Ihave no idea. Hello, that's
just a guess, just to guess. Oh, i'd stop showing off,
and can you please mute your phone? I muted my phone because you know
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what, I don't even know wherethat was. That's not my phone.
I checked. There's a rogue phonein here, and I'm gonna have to
phone the phone or you've got somechips somewhere. Anyway, Okay, I
mean that was really informative, andI like that. I love hearing everyone's
interpretation and we can all put ittogether and go Never thought of that,
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Never thought of that, But that'scool. Okay, quiz, So we're
going to go on. So we'vegot the human experience, and you touched
on the next question, which iswho am I? So if you're asking
yourself, who am I? Whoare you? Push? Who are you?
Who am I? I'm sorry,No, that's no problem. Uh
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yeah, I'm not. Definitely nota sack of flesh and meat and bones
that identifies by you know, whatsports show he watches or what job he
has. M definitely not that.But I'm really not sure exactly what you
would call me besides a spiritual being, an entity that is made of this
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collective consciousness that I was speaking of. Earlier with a certain goal in this
incarnation, and I learn more aboutthat goal every day, and what I'm
doing right now speaking to you ispart of that. It's part of achieving
that either goal for this lifetime orjust a nugget of a nugget of experience
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for the next you know, I'mwith it. I'm gonna ask I'm going
to come back at you on thaton the first part. On the first
question, you spoke of the consciousnessand the experiences. So would you agree
or not? It doesn't matter.We're just discussing if that is the case
on the first part, which mytruth is the same as that truth everything
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is consciousness, would you agree orhow do you feel about If we say
who am I? Then I wouldsay my truth is I'm a conscious being
or spiritual being or God or whateveryou want to call it, having a
human experience, that is who Iam. I would agree on that definitely.
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I would think that also maybe toadd maybe a little bit to that
and combine it with what I wassaying earlier about how people have such unique
experiences and it makes everyone very different. Yeah, I think that that's a
huge part of the human experience isto be that different person and not try
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and be something you're not. Absolutely. I mean the fact is, if,
as I will say, you know, if I've said this to other
guests, if you purport the factI am a spiritual being having a human
experience, just like that lip serviceout, it means nothing. It's love
and light. But if you deconstructthat statement, you're making I am a
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spiritual being or a conscious being havinga human experience. It then correlates with
what you said for question one aboutthe diversity. So obviously consciousness not going
to come in one light, Chris, and though everyone's got to be like
Chris, mister Smith in the matrix. Yeah, so it shows the riches
and the diversity. We're still theone consciousness having multiple experiences at multiple times.
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Now would you would you agree withthat? Or I would? And
I actually want to kind of bringthis to the table because it's a discussion
I had the other night and itkind of made me question a lot of
things. Uh, the nature ofevil. Um, I'm not sure if
you heard that show with Alex SecurisFranco. Yeah, he brought up some
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very interesting points about the nature ofevil, and it made me add some
further questions to that, and Iwant to throw a question at you about
it. Look, you're not supposedto flip it. You are the but
you are a bulldog interviewer. You'reunfair. I'm a I'm a little old
woman in a village in UK.Well, we can have a discussion about
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it, because I just want toI want to open that door. I
want to open that door. Well, okay, so I would like to
get your thoughts on the nature ofevil, because I was, you know,
arguing, not really arguing, butkind of throwing it out there that
I'm not sure if that's something thatwe that originates from source. I'm not
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sure that something that we always have. Is it something that we learn or
is it something implanted. That isa big conflict for me because I was
saying, you know, there's acertain point where, yeah, I get
angry. You can pour some waterover somebody's head or punch somebody in the
face, but there's a certain levelthat you cross, a certain line that
you cross where you're killing somebody oryou're raping somebody. Were you doing something
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horrific that you know, really crossesthis good and evil line? In my
opinion at least. Okay, right, guys, just want you to know
out there, this is now theForbidden Knowledge news show. Okay, welcome,
coming from my true from my perspective, because I did listen to that
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show. I did listen. Icome from, as you're aware, from
the concept of non duality. SoI come from that I am consciousness having
a human experience, okay, andthat eye consciousness can experience all things at
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all times. And to do thatI must come into or use homo sapien
terminology. You know, I spokebefore the juxtaposition eye consciousness. So we've
got one side homo sapien sapien orthe beliefs, concepts ideas, and then
we have obviously just consciousness. Socoming from the homo sapi and sapien perspective.
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So I am consciousness experiencing polarity,okay. To know myself or to
experience anything, I have to experiencepolarity other up down, black, white,
good, bad or evil and nonevil. I don't know what's the
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opposite to evil anyway, So that'swhere I come cover from. What is
the question what's the opposite to evil? Non evil? I think that's better
than good. If you say nonevil. Yeah, I think it is.
So there you go, as anew term come out there. I'm
gonna yeah, I was an itchingand I'm copyrighting that. Don't steal my
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etching. So when I look,now, you have some awareness of my
experience as a homo sapian sapient.So I came into torture, torture,
child abuse, rape, being there, done it and did it and got
the experience. So I'm fully aware. So I'm not naive or talking out
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my backside saying dad, da dada da, I've experienced all of that,
Okay. For my truth is,um, it's gonna this is really
gonna be hard. So he swiped, he switched it around, hasn't he,
bastard? Um, it is consciousness. There is nothing outside consciousness.
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The first hurdle is if you havea truth that everything is consciousness, everything
is energy, quantum, physics,one o one. There you go.
That's the first step. That's mytruth. I don't expect anyone else to
share that truth if they don't wantto. I choose to share that truth
here and now. Then I'm experiencingI have experienced what you call evil,
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correct, I've experienced it. Atthe time of the experience, I was
not aware of who I was ina juxtaposition, just an experiencer. It
seemed real that I was a victim. I was being harmed and that had
to happen to go through the humanexperience. Otherwise you come in knowing your
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God. What good's that going todo? It's really liivan So when I
have to make so much sense.But if I, if I do,
I'm a god. What are youdoing anyway? UM, stop it,
You're not d So for me,I'm an experiencer of multiple things. It's
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consciousness experience playing the role of uma negative nellie what you call evil?
Now, hold on, this isthis is very paradoxical. And if you're
coming from a left brain human consciousness, I am just a limited conscious being.
It's like, okay, but bearwith me. Consciousness is the only
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thing that exists. We are theillusion. You said it on question one.
I am not my body, I'mnot my beliefs, I'm not my
thoughts. I'm not I'm not I'mnot um. So you know what you're
not. First, I didn't knowthat way back in the day doing the
work on yourself. Then I cometo realize the analogy I'm going to give
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you is like, imagine a movie. So we're let's do Dracula. That's
scary shit. Still, yeah,we're in a Vincent Price dracular movie and
we're watching it at the same time. We're experiencing all the scariness and horrors
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and the death and the blood andeverything, but we're observing it at the
same time. This is so hardto articulate. Does that make sense to
you? Do you understand where I'mgoing with this? Okay, So consciousness,
there is only consciousness. There's nothingoutside consciousness, Consciousness or God or
Christ. Consciousness we all know isgoof he's experienced. It is un conditional
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loves. There's no you know you'regoing to help Chris because you flipped on
Gloria. No, there is,There is nothing like that. So it's
consciousness. And I always say,imagine consciousness is a ball of light and
put other people use it to putthe colander over and all the rays come
out. That's the individual. Butto experience being a homo sapien sapien,
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you need polarities. You need polaritiesthem. Polarities are to push you and
push you, yeah, to startworking on from the limited conscious being victim
or me and all the rest oregotistic head so far up their backside they
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could brush their teeth. Homo sapien, sapien. And it pushes you to
go within, to ask the questionsyou're supposed to ask, and then you
tend to one oh one change theway you look at things, of things
you look at change and it switches, and then you see the illusion.
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The experience I had it it wasreal, it was absolutely real. But
in the juxtaposition, I'm fully awareit was the illusion of Maya that I'm
experiencing. That's deep shit, itis, and it gives me so much
to think about, and it resonatesvery highly with me, and it'll give
me some ammunition next time I talkedto Alex. So, yeah, that's
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my that's my truth, that's myperspective. Now can I have my podcast
turn it back over to you nextweek? Guys? Okay, so we've
got we've done what is the humanexperience? Who am I? Here?
Comes the big one? We havetouched on it. I think we've But
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if you want to go deeper,Chris, deeper, you can Why am
I here? Why are you here? But we've touched on that. Do
you want to expand on that abit more. Oh yeah, let's let's
talk about what could possibly be soulcontracts or previous agreements that you might have
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made to come here. Now.I'm not sure about this because I've never
had any near death experiences. Idon't haven't had any experiences like some of
my previous guests who say that theycan remember making these soul contracts or going
having a near death experience and havingmemories of a next possible next life or
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previous or you know, all theseexperiences that we can't verify, but people
have their own truth about them.Now, it makes me think that if
that is so, there are maybetimes that we choose to come back with
a specific goal, or maybe it'severy time. I really don't know,
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but I think it's a big possibilitythat that could be part of why we're
coming back, is because we chosea specific something to come here and do.
Okay, I mean that's not mytruth, but because of we're fully
aware of the human experience, thediversity every individuality will experience it. The
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answer to that question differently, remembermy orange analogy you have if we've both
experienced the orange, but totally different. I think my truth I don't think.
I know my truth is. Idon't have that as a truth.
Doesn't mean it's not a truth becauseI cannot comment because I don't experience what
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they experience when they have a neardeath experience to tell them that. So
I can't say that's not true.But it's not in my experience. When
I was told that years ago,and it was it was this scholar,
I believe it or not. Hewas a scholar and we were talking one
day and I was just playing thevictim life as you do, and he
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turned around and said to me,you chose to be here. And he
was in a religion I will notsay which religion, and he was a
gorgeous, gorgeous man. I saidwhat. I didn't even say, what
the fuck? Because he was areligious, really high religion. I went
what he said, you chose tobe here? And I just turned around
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and said, if that's the case, someone fordedly signed my name, why
would I choose to go through allthat I've gone through? Yeah, And
that's what I said, hold onnow, fast forward. And we always
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say hindsights a bitch, is itnot? I consciousness juxtaposition consciousness. I'm
fully aware that I chose it.I created it to have a human experience
from consciousness perspectives. Does that makesense to you? It does? Yeah?
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Ok So that truth to them.They're they're having that truth from the
maybe I don't know the homo sapiensapien consciousness, which is not wrong.
I'm going from consciousness. I neededto have this experience, so I chose
it. Is that all right withyou? That makes sense? That makes
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a lot of sense. Okay.It adds to my It adds to my
little soup of knowledge and um theoriesyou know, and things that I remember.
Remember, I'm psychick. I'm amedium. So don't try and flip
it again. Otherwise you're in trouble. And it's called elder the trouble.
Yeah you can. This is elderabuse. Respect your elders anyway. So
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now we're really getting into the nittygritty um. As you can see,
guys, this is not an interview. This is just chaos. I've even
platted my hair. I keep sayingit. The anything I can control in
the chaos is my chaotic hair.So I'm in glass. Oh I thought
you did that, So you couldjust beat me with those. That's later,
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Chris. Later we get up tooff camera, right, So the
next question, Chris, what isreality? We have sort of answered it.
However, I want you to godeeper down the rabbit hole. This
is a tough one for me,UM, because I don't think anything is
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real in a physical sense. Soif that's the case, what reality could
be could be many things for me, UM, it could be just a
program and a mass. I don'tI don't like the term simulation because is
that, you know, kind ofinfers that we agree on something any day.
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But maybe holographic reality or or somethingof that nature where nothing is really
physical and it's kind of like aprojection. UM. And I think that
I'm coming to the more of theterms that this could be, uh some
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sort of a just a special realmfor human development. UM. I don't
want to say planet. I don'tknow. If it's a planet, I
don't. I don't know if it'sflat, I don't. I don't know
what it is. But whatever itis, UM, I think that it
is a specific place for almost sapiensapien experiences for the spirit spiritual um us
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our consciousness, our spiritual selves,to come in here and experience this.
If you know that, I knowwhat you mean. It's basically what we've
already discussed. If you ever,if when we listen to the playback of
chats like this conversations, you canstart to see things. And I just
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saw something there. I was justabout to say, yeah, I agree,
and I went, hold on,I am consciousness having the human experience.
I'm creating this experience. However,I'm I'm in that position. I'm
going that's consciousness coming out. However, saying it from the homo sapien,
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I totally agree. I totally,absolutely agree. It's I know it's hard
sometimes get your head around this jackaposition, But if you go around and say
I'm a spiritual being having a humanexperience, you've got to go in that
conversation what does that mean? Andyou've got to say, I'm in a
jat'aposition. Here's me talking as Homosapiens say, to have the human experience.
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I'm doing the work, and thisis conscious saying that's correct for the
experience. So on that, wecan call it whatever you fucking want.
We can call it a simulation ona universe. I like to say it's
a it's a movie. At themoment, it feels like I don't know
the life of Brian or Monty Python, and I'm waiting for the big Foot
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to come out of the sky andgo. But it's some sort of illusionary
the illusion of Maya. Now,why I can say that's my truth and
why I validate that too is withinme is because quantent physics one oh one
validates that there is no thing suchas matter. Every thing that we perceive
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as matter is just energy vibrating ata certain frequency. There is a program
in the reality once the observer looksat it, so it doesn't exist.
It's a wave until I observe it, and then it's inch fall. And
the weirdest thing to that. Theother day, I was having this conversation
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with myself, as you do,because I'm Billy, no mates in the
village, you know, hot fuzzvillage, and all of a sudden,
this experience is etching and the floordisappeared. First Nana's whoa, And then
I got up and I was like, is it there? Is it there?
And then you come into my headwhen you wake up in the morning,
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the floor's not there until you observeit, and I was like,
I don't want to go there.Now, I'm not. Now, I'm
not Now where's the floor? Sohaving them sort of etchings downloads because they
won't know what our etchings are inour secret club, it really shifts the
reality. I've said all of that, Chris, but there isn't a switchtion
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that can describe it's an experience,and that what you just said there,
that whole thing would explain why paranormaland contact experiences are so personal. Yes,
and you know you can't ask tosee it from another person. No,
you can't, never ever, Andthe same experience someone will experience it
slightly different. Now we always getwell I've had a bad each experience,
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and well I've had a good eachexperience or the middle one is it was
bad then it got good because itmade me wake up. So it's the
same experience, but from coming fromdifferent perspectives. So right, we can
hold onto the reality one we're doinggood. We're doing good here? Now
who is ET? Who do youthink ET is? Whoever ET is?
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Now? This is this is I'mconstantly changing what I how I feel and
what I think about this good goodgood. I don't. I'm good.
Um, I used to think hewas a little green guy traveling here in
a ten can from a different universe. Um it kind of yeah, I'm
I'm right now. I'm stuck between. Is ET just a projection of our
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own consciousness because it has been plantedthere and we want to see ET or
you know, along those same lines. Is it our higher selves and our
guides that are still us and connectedto us, just speaking as ET because
we can maybe understand that better.I don't know, or is it?
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Is it something outside of the collectiveconsciousness? Is it something outside of what
we've been talking about. I don'tknow. That could be outside of this
whole consciousness calendar that we were discussing, UM that I sometimes question that.
Yeah, I keep it, Ikeep it in the back, you know,
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as I could be type thing umor is it it? You know?
Is it part of this whole collectiveconsciousness? But it's the experience that
these beings are having are always nonhuman. I don't know. That could
be something as well. I meanthe bit of outside the calendar, because
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I'd come from non duality perception.Um, everything is consciousness or quantum physics,
So there's nothing outside consciousness, soit can't come from outside. That's
that's my truth, that's me.So we can agree to disagree if if
we, if we need to,I will not throw my plats at you.
Yet, Well, I can't disagreebecause I don't know. It's just
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one of those things. These questionsneed to be asked. I had I
asked this question before to someone,and by asking the question what you're doing,
you're actually using something that the homosapien has that no one tends to
use much. Is called discernment.I do not say that patronizing. I
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just say you've got it, whydon't you use it? So it needs
to be asked. There's no rightor wrong answer. We're exploring consciousness myself
because I come from that perception.It's its consciousness in another shape and form,
and that conscious being that et,for example, is experiencing being that
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to play into the homo sapi andthe human experience for us at the moment,
my truth could change at any time. I eat so much humble pie,
it's like it's so hard to usewords. It's like for my consciousness,
my conscious experience to evolve, tochange to new experiences. Even though
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I've seen them since I was akid, but I now have an awareness
of my connection with them that way. So that is consciousness in the colander.
It's always been there, always beenthere, obviously, well from my
lifetime it has. It's always beenthere. It's never been It's not coming
in from anywhere. It's here.However, there's something about when you deconstruct
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who you are and realize you're notwhat you call the piece of meat,
the lump you know, and allthat your vibrant, the energy which has
proven scientifically now increases, oscillation occursand your frequency. And prior to that,
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the homo sapien limited consciousness could onlysee a certain amount. Yeah,
just a certain amount. You don'thave your gut feeling, your intuition.
You get it right now and again, or be in a medium, you
talk to spirit. You know,that does open the door, I must
admit. But as that raises,or whatever, Trevor you want to call
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it, you just notice what's alwaysbeen there. And it is said,
what is hidden will be revealed,what is hidden will be revealed. It's
all They've always been there as partof the homo sapien sapien experience and it's
because you can't say it's not,because the three D experience is polarity.
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Them in us different than me,black, white, ugly, beautiful,
gray, whatever names people want togive them or they give themselves. So
it's part of they are part ofthis experience. How does that sound?
That sounds good? And I wouldimagine it would be the same thing with
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spiritual entities that some consider angels oreven demons or other negative type non physical
entities, that it's all part ofthe same type of thing. Yes,
because so I guess when you whenif you ask who is et it could
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be the same question as who whoare the angels? Or who are exactly
exactly? I mean, you knowyou've got the angels, you've got in
my experience, UM, I haven'texperienced. Well, that's because I black
out before taking through a wall,so I don't really know what I've experienced
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that way. But there are otherexperiences where I do recall have always been
knowledge, experiential knowledge and knowing.UM, some other Homo Sabian Sabian conscious
being or experience maybe demons because theychose to experience that. Um for whatever
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that that experience is supposed to meanto them at some point you know they
have a choice. I say,you have a choice. It's like being
a medium and spirit comes in.I have a choice if I pick up
a negative nearly like very rare.I mean I don't even remember. Maybe
when I was a kid and Ifeel it would, I just said go
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away, didn't come in. Andthat's the same. You can do that
with even these dimensional beings, anything, just saying no. I had one
one day it was it obviously wasnot a spirit. It was another time
the only one nearest was and Iwas in or it could have been.
I don't know. Anyway, itdoesn't matter. And then I was sitting
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in my bed again. I allsat in my bed for experiences as you
do. Oh that come out wrong? Oh fuck, no, we're deleted.
I let it out of the bagand then I was in this space.
It was a very what you wouldcall spiritual, and it was just
so loving. And then I heardGloria externally. I jumped up, Chris,
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I went, eight, ship,don't you ever blah blah blah bleep
bleep like a lady does in theUK. Do that again. It stopped.
So what I'm trying to show youis we create our reality. We
have free will as a homo sapiensapien, we have free will of choice.
I don't want to experience that.So people that experience demons and that
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they have a choice, it's notwrong if they as consciousness wanting to experience
the dark and the light, that'sall. That's that's that's my truth.
I know it won't make people happy, but like I said, it makes
too much sense. It really does. If you believe in the consciousness and
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the human experience, that itself willcome in and get you to to deconstruct
every question we throw out to eachother. And lately I've been finding myself
if I'm out and blake, ifI'm in a grocery store, if I'm
somewhere and I get angry at someoneor I'm aggravated at someone, I have
to look at that person and say, oh, that's me. Yeah,
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a douchebag today. Okay, youjust have to let it go. Yeah,
I look at you know. Icall them negative nelies because I think
it's more affectionate, and I lookan inside, I'm not laughing at them,
and I'm going I know who youare. You may be portraying an
asshole. If you think I'm goingto respond and go down your reality,
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I've been there, done it,and did it and got the scars,
the flags, the T shirts.I've had enough of the human experience.
I'm out of it, and soI don't And because I like yourself,
if you don't react and you don'tconnect, then the situation will dissolve itself.
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Okay, there's many ways you cando that. I heard this amazing
guy on this. I watched aclip come up, and I wish I
could memories name, but I'm oldand decrepit and memory loss as you do
anyway, But it was so profound. It was nothing to do with consciousness.
But he was like, what wouldyou call a ninjitsu chai ti larte
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whatever, Trevor, lovely guy,lovely guy, and I used to do.
Look at me, gig. Youcan tell this is not an interview,
it's organic conversation. This is mehere, I am. And he
said to sant amazing, and hehad shown them how to defend themselves physically,
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but then he said to them,you don't need to do that.
What he said, watch this.So he got another student up and he
said to the student student I'm goingto look at you in a real mean
way. You're an asshole. You'vegot a knife in your pocket, and
you've got your mates in an ego. You're going to come just for me
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looking at you, and I wantyou to say to me, who the
fuck are you looking at coming?That's it. There you go. So
this student loves saying it to him, and it termined. He said,
oh my god, I'm so sorryhim. My wife just died last night.
He said, it's a total lie. It's been done. And he
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said the enemy, the energy ofthe negative person. It shocks him back.
He said, do things like that. You can do what you do,
do what I do. But ifyou if you really can't, if
you really want to face plant thenegative, Nellie, there that's really in
your face, and they're going foryou. He said, tell a lie,
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Tell a lie, tell a lie. Oh my daughter's just died.
You haven't even got a daughter.You break the energy, you break it
down because one will feed off theother. So you've got negative and positive.
So if you've got negative and I'mlooking at you, Chris and going
you're fucking looking at me, andyou come back there we are I beat
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you with the plats. Yeah.But if if I say you're fucking looking
at me and you come back andsay, I'm so sorry, Glory,
but you know my son died lastnight. It was just and I don't
know. Oh my god, I'mso sorry. Boom, you break it.
So there's many ways we can dothat, Chris, I've never thought
about it like that. Well Inever did. I mean, yeah,
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you would have thought that I shouldknow everything. Hello, I'm me.
Well it's better than you know,punching somebody in the face. But some
people still find it hard because theyget a resistance. They said, how
do you get out of it?I said, I'm not that spiritual,
said, don't say that bullshit.That's a lie, that's a belief.
But if you're not quite ready forthat, why didn't you start reacting differently
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from the homo sapien sapiing. Butthis guy just come up on social media
and I went, I never knewthat I might try that to see if
that no one ever comes at me. Do you want to come at me?
Chris, come up me and I'llsee it. You will knock me
out with those things so fast.I'm telling you, I'm on a roll.
With these right, So we've gonedeeper in that. So we just
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put them all in and then wesee what comes out at the end.
So I think we've already covered thenext question, how we connected. We've
covered that we were consciousness, they'reconsciousness. We are. It comes a
big one deep down the rabbit hole. You are so not flipping it on
me. Okay, why are theyhere? Chris? Why are they here?
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Now? I think you're you're talkingabout ET or yeah, yeah,
we're talking about ET. You knowthe experiences you've had and yeah, why
why your truth is at the momentwhich could change at any time. Why
are they here for me? They'rehere because I was to meet them.
I was ready to hear the message. I was ready to experience them,
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and I asked for it. Iwas really seeking it. But I believe
that that's why they're here, isbecause I was ready for them, ready
to experience them, and ready togrow from them. Wow. I think
that's as simplest the answer. That'sa wow answer, isn't that's a bit
found. He's showing off, guys. We're not going to have that.
I'm here to have to turn intothe nasty interviewer in a minute because that
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was too good, So really onthat one. It then sort of falls
on to the last question, butnot the end of the podcast, but
the last question, so we canpull it all in together. Why are
they though interested in us? Nowgo back to your answer to the last
question, why you think they're here? You asked them, but can you
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go deeper if possible? Sure?Why are they trusted in us? I
think this is another simple one,and I can't get angry at me for
this one either. I think theyare us. I think that there's so
much a part of us. Ithink that in my experience, I'm starting
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to believe that the main entity thatI communicate with is my higher self,
our future self, or whatever youwant to call it, and the other
ones are just highly connected energy partsof myself, maybe past lives of myself,
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maybe ancestors, but ultimately it's justa they are so connected with us
that they are part of us,and they have an interest in our expanding
consciousness. And I think when eachperson is ready for that new level of
growth in their life, either aspirit guide appears and aliens this entity,
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or they have a weird paranormal experiencethey can't explain something to maybe jump start
or boost that evolution that's happening.That was another wow. Do you know
I hate you? And you knowwhat, I am never going on your
show again. I hate him.That was another wow momentum. Now,
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I don't know if you see whatI've done. I asked eight questions,
which is from coming from the perspectiveof or homo sapien sapien in the juxaposition.
On the first question, we answeredthe subsequent seven. Did you get
that? Yeah? Did you seewhat? There's a method in my madness.
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If I want to demonstrate something becauseI can't articulate it. Sometimes I
have an agenda. You have talkshow genius in you? Oh do I?
Okay, So we've gone through thatthe conversation. Now we've we've we've
got it in there. Now,Chris, the last part of this conversation,
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what more can we pull out?Because soon, well, I think
the panel's going to come out beforethe podcast. I just can't make my
mind up what's coming out first.But we can do a bit of time
traveling. So guys, if thepodcast comes out before this it was meant
to be. If this comes outbefore the podcast, we have a secret
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podcast coming up. Yes, wedo super Did I pull that off?
Did I? YEA? So fuckingillogical, wasn't it? But never mind?
Anyway, we have that coming upwhere the six of us are going
to go deep. Okay, butindividually we're going deep. Okay. What
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more can we discern about the subjectwe spoke about. We have a a
resonance that we are consciousness having ahuman experience, and we've done all that.
What more? For example, Chris, what's next? Ah? Great,
I'm glad to see where you're goingwith that one. Um. I
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think collectively we're kind of in ashitty place right now. The planet is
tense, you know, the forpeople that have no idea what's going on
spiritually or consciousness wise, they havea lot piling on them and it's affecting
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the collective. And we have alot piling on us just because of everyday
shit. So and we don't alwaysdo the right thing all the time,
and there's a lot of outside Imean, not really outside, but there's
a lot of dystopian and negative thingsoccurring that is out of our immediate control
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at least, and we have tokind of see it unfold. But I
think The next step is how canwe make this incarnation, this experience for
the rest of the time we havein these particular meat suits a little better
than it is right now collectively.And um, that's the question that I'm
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kind of asking right now because Isee a lot of people suffering and I
don't like it, and you know, it feeds off of the negative energy,
and I want things to be betterfor everyone. You know who doesn't,
Well, there's a few, butyou know, Okay, No,
I think that's the next step.I think, yeah, I mean that
is from what I've heard from manypeople. It's a very similar scenario.
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There's no right and there's no wrong. The first part you spoke about,
so what we're witnessing and experiencing,So let's go step back in the jux
position, the homo sapien sapien iswitnessing is However, I'm going to have
to pull it back and say todeconstruct, I'm a spiritual being having a
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human experience, and I have togo to the other side. So consciousness
is aware of this is going on. Okay, it's fully aware of what's
going on, that them conscious beingsare doing this, that and the other
and wh're noticing these conscious beings arereally trying to take control and crush divide
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homo sapien sapien into different camps andbeing more control and more control. So
coming from consciousness the observer, you'reaware, but you don't participate. So
that means the likes of us donot comply. We don't comply, so
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we're not in that reality. Say, but the reality is here. This
is where choice is coming in.Know thyself or stay in that reality.
I have an understanding from this perspectiveof non duality because I've changed the way
I look at things. I tellyou, if someone comes to try to
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do something to me, I willfight to my physical death. No,
there's no compliance. I'm here tohave a human experience. I must respond
in a physical way. It's obvious, isn't it. If you come and
try and kill me, Chris,I'm going to fight back and kill your
first face plant you're down, andjump and stamp on your head. Obviously
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you don't love a light. There'snothing going on. Hello, Yes,
there is. There's a reality we'reexperiencing. We need to experience the human
experience. We need to partake makechoices in it. So so. But
I'm coming from I am consciousness havinga human experience, so I have no
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fear of what's going on, nomatter what happens. However, coming from
that perspective, if you want touse the word no, I won't even
use the word I coming from thatperspective, Chris, and I think we
touched upon it when I was inyour show last time. It's already done.
We did it. It's an illusion. This extra extra is illusional.
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It will dissiplate. What is hiddenwill be revealed. And if you can
just step back and go, Idon't want to kill her yet, but
let me just use a bit ofdiscernment. If you have a belief it's
still going on, you will experiencethat belief in your reality. You will
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create it. If you have atruth and knowing I am a spiritual being
having a human experience, well Ican't believe that I'm in it. I'm
part of it. If I'm takenoff to some camp or something, I
will experience that, just like Iexperience multiple rape and torture. I'm aware
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of that. Does that make senseto Chris, Yeah, it makes perfect
sense. So there is nothing tofear but fear itself and that them negative
nellies or whatever you want to callthem, evil bastards, whatever you want
to call them. It doesn't needa difference. That consciousness is pushing and
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pushing the polarity to the consciousness thatis awakening in every individual. Homo sapien,
sapien. Look, one person,one human does not wake up the
cake. It goes. It's abelief system. We need so many percentage.
If you if you know who youare, you know that's a belief
and it's not true. If youbelieve it, it's your truth and you're
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in this reality waiting for a percentagethat you think is correct my truth.
At this moment, we did it. It's just I look at some and
go, come on, you knowwho you are, you know we've got
through it. It's time to fuckingcelebrate. Have that even if you,
even if you don't believe me,take it on and live it and feel
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it right right, We did it, stopped with the illusion. And you
know, I watched Riders Show theother day, the amazing Lindsay on there
and she gave an analogy and aboutChina and she said, people think that's
an independent state. It's illusion.It's not they're all together, wake up,
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and I'm going it's all an illusion. So if they're coming the love
and light us and say we're nearlythere, we need more, we need
more. You know I'm there.I I free, even if they come
and take me off the boot campwherever I am, I'm free because I
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know who I am and I'm aware. It's the illusion now that energy I'm
projecting out or another being. I'mnot saying I'm awake. Consciousness never sleeps
there, you know, they saywake up consciousness or I'm not. Amnesia
is used a lot, and Iused to use the word amnesia. The
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homo sapien sapien identity mask one pretendingto be what it's not, couldn't have
amnesia. Consciousness is there is neverasleep, never forgets, and we all
know all through our life, evenas young as yourself and as old as
I am, now, all throughit. You go back, the mask
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comes off, and consciousness light bulbor download, and it goes back on.
You play the role. Shakespeare hasjust turned twenty five, right,
you know what, Chris twenty one? That come on, I'm sorry,
my plats out and whip you hard. So does that make sense to you
if you come in from there.It's a Monty Python. You know.
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I'd said it on your show beforeabout some of the laws people. And
I heard someone else on one ofyour shows or Rider's show. I can't
remember, because I watch you.I'm stalking you both because you're both amazing,
both amazing. That's why I gotall my info from from you too.
And I look good. Yeah,I got an extra check in the
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meal for you. There you go. There, you and someone I think
it was your show, I don'tknow who show it was. It was
somebody's show, so I'm not plaguarizingor stealing your copyrighting. And they said
they were talking about putting a facecovering on to stop you getting ill.
And this person said, if youlift up the box, it says this
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doesn't do it. It doesn't protectyou. So there you are. This
is the irrational whatever. I've gotto wear this because it will be to
protect me, because it's I gotto But on the box it says I'm
not protecting you. Now. They'rethe little things we noticed, like the
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one I told you about the lawin this country you can't have in the
lockdown, you couldn't have sets inthe house, you'll kill people, you'll
spread it, but you can gooutside. That was what he said live
and you're like, okay, Sothere were the little ones all through the
last seventeen months. It's the logical. I'm sorry. You even heard someone
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prominent in your country tell people todrink certain things and I'm like, you
what what? Bug? Go anddo it anyway. Yeah, you're not
laughing at them. You're looking atat this. These are laws. These
so you start to deconstruct it,and that something's not right. That's where
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you start. Something is fishy.And the more that you use a bit
of discernment, well it's now basicallysome of these things are so illogical.
Why would someone come up with that? That is consciousness showing you now what
was hidden. We believed all thatship before before we become aware on the
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individual. Who am I? Iam not this limited victim to be abused
or and then you tell yourself,I'm no good, I'm used. There's
Noah loves it and all that I'vebeen there, I should have won a
fucking Oscar for victim mode. Iwas the best actress in the universe of
that one. Until you get thereyou believe everything you're told. Do this,
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do that, watch cycle, dothis, get educated this way,
sit this way, stand this way? Do you know you can't swear on
a podcast? All of that andeveryone goes petcor and then but then all
of a sudden, the anarchist comes. How you go, I see looger,
Why can't I do that? Whosaid I can't call Chris Matthew a
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little shit? Irritating? And whosaid I can't do that? Because my
opinion of you should not define you. You define yourself. You value right.
So that's how it starts, andthat is major. Now before you
comply, all I ask before youcomply to anything, or even don't please,
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don't agree with anything I say becauseI have no idea what I'm talking
about. You know, get yourown truth. It's the best truth to
have your own truth. But beforeyou comply to something, use a bit
of discernment. Why am I losinghomo sapien sapien my freedom? Why am
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I giving it to them? I'vehad a conversation with Rider. Obviously you're
going first and Rider's going second becauseyou pay me more money than he does.
And he raised really prominent that weboth noticed at the very beginning of
this complete DNA extract. Yeah,and he put it into his truth and
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I was like, wow, Inever thought of it like that. Oh
that's in my consciousness now. Butit's his experience, and I totally accept
it, even though I'm coming froma different angle difference. And I look
at every person's conversation or truth andI go, wow, that's cool.
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Look at the work they had todo to get there. I'm not alone
in the work. I'm doing well. All going the same timeline or now
we're all experiencing differently, which meansI am experiencing all things at all times
in all time timelines. Now,how does that sound? That sounds awesome?
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And I have to thank you,Gloria. I will be going on
a hike here in the next fewhours, and I'm going to a little
mountain hike, and I was goingto do some meditating once I reached the
top of my mountain, and Iwill have a lot to meditate on today.
You will fantastic. You will.You just go in and go inside
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into the silence and ask the questionwho am I? Even though you know
intellectually and experientially, Yeah, stillgo in, Just go in and then
do the work. I'm not thatI'm going to drag my meat suit up
there. And do you have anybig foots? I hear about you've got
big foots in the middle, ohif I've heard there are, and I
would love to see one of those. But Chris, can you not get
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murdered because that's very selfish because inthe panel and our future conversations together,
well, Chris, I don't thinkwe've touched on everything. I want to
thank you for the conversation. Ifanyone out there thinks, well, that's
not very professional, it wasn't supposedto be professional. It's two human beings
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us having a conversation. And that'swhat my podcast about. Me and Chris
both have individual shows where we dothe professional stuff, you know, as
you do. We play the homosapien sagem. But this is just consciousness
and just a conversation. Zoom tozoom. Okay. I thank you so
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much for your contribution. I willsend you the money in the post,
and I'd like to thank everyone forwatching until next time, until my next
guest. I now know how toturn off the video. I didn't on
the other video I was live goinghow would I turn this off right now?
How do I do it? Sowatch this one. Bye guys,
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see you next time for the nextconversation.
Hi, Welcome to in section podcast. Hi everybody, Now, this podcast
(01:59):
is not interviewing. It's two people, one of the ones in room and
one in the other, just havinga conversation about the most important topic currently
at the moment, consciousness. Sowelcome. I'd like to introduce my guests.
My guest, I'd like to introduceChris today. Chris is a talk
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show and podcast host and founder ofForbidden Knowledge News Wicked Wicked. Wicked show
brings to the conversation and an informative, interesting, and sometimes very controversial approach.
So everyone get ready, but I'veread that you can send me the
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money later. Okay, the mailin the mail about the conversation. So,
Chris, what is the human experience? If I knew that I wouldn't
be here, I'd have millions andI'd be telling everybody how to do it.
Oh, man, what a question? The human experience. I'm just
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now getting kicked in the ass reallyhard with my human experience and learning all
about it. I in no wayclaim to know what is going on here,
what our nature of reality is.But I have a little better idea
every day, and with each experiencethat I can't explain, I have a
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little better idea as well. It'sfunny how that works. But as far
as what I can tell during thisday, the human experience for me is
well, I guess I could godeep from the beginning. The universe everything
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consciousness, God's source. It's everything, communicating and learning and growing through me
and through you, and through eachindividual and through each animal and through each
tree, and learning about new experiences, growing from the experiences, seeking out
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knowledge, and continuing the ongoing transformationof expanding consciousness from the universe from source
to us and beyond. And Ithink that maybe a little bit about what
the human experience is about. ButI think to add to that as well,
is we Consciousness is so massive,and these individual pieces of consciousness are
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so different because of the different experiencesthat everyone has, different cultures, different
upbringings, that when we incarnate,we are seeking a different experience from a
previous incarnation. Okay. And Ialso think that each incarnation has somewhat of
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a stored consciousness from the previous individualto kind of keep that individual unique and
special, if you know what Imean. Wow, from look at that,
guys, I don't know, Ihave no idea. Hello, that's
just a guess, just to guess. Oh, i'd stop showing off,
and can you please mute your phone? I muted my phone because you know
(05:24):
what, I don't even know wherethat was. That's not my phone.
I checked. There's a rogue phonein here, and I'm gonna have to
phone the phone or you've got somechips somewhere. Anyway, Okay, I
mean that was really informative, andI like that. I love hearing everyone's
interpretation and we can all put ittogether and go Never thought of that,
(05:44):
Never thought of that, But that'scool. Okay, quiz, So we're
going to go on. So we'vegot the human experience, and you touched
on the next question, which iswho am I? So if you're asking
yourself, who am I? Whoare you? Push? Who are you?
Who am I? I'm sorry,No, that's no problem. Uh
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yeah, I'm not. Definitely nota sack of flesh and meat and bones
that identifies by you know, whatsports show he watches or what job he
has. M definitely not that.But I'm really not sure exactly what you
would call me besides a spiritual being, an entity that is made of this
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collective consciousness that I was speaking of. Earlier with a certain goal in this
incarnation, and I learn more aboutthat goal every day, and what I'm
doing right now speaking to you ispart of that. It's part of achieving
that either goal for this lifetime orjust a nugget of a nugget of experience
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for the next you know, I'mwith it. I'm gonna ask I'm going
to come back at you on thaton the first part. On the first
question, you spoke of the consciousnessand the experiences. So would you agree
or not? It doesn't matter.We're just discussing if that is the case
on the first part, which mytruth is the same as that truth everything
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is consciousness, would you agree orhow do you feel about If we say
who am I? Then I wouldsay my truth is I'm a conscious being
or spiritual being or God or whateveryou want to call it, having a
human experience, that is who Iam. I would agree on that definitely.
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I would think that also maybe toadd maybe a little bit to that
and combine it with what I wassaying earlier about how people have such unique
experiences and it makes everyone very different. Yeah, I think that that's a
huge part of the human experience isto be that different person and not try
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and be something you're not. Absolutely. I mean the fact is, if,
as I will say, you know, if I've said this to other
guests, if you purport the factI am a spiritual being having a human
experience, just like that lip serviceout, it means nothing. It's love
and light. But if you deconstructthat statement, you're making I am a
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spiritual being or a conscious being havinga human experience. It then correlates with
what you said for question one aboutthe diversity. So obviously consciousness not going
to come in one light, Chris, and though everyone's got to be like
Chris, mister Smith in the matrix. Yeah, so it shows the riches
and the diversity. We're still theone consciousness having multiple experiences at multiple times.
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Now would you would you agree withthat? Or I would? And
I actually want to kind of bringthis to the table because it's a discussion
I had the other night and itkind of made me question a lot of
things. Uh, the nature ofevil. Um, I'm not sure if
you heard that show with Alex SecurisFranco. Yeah, he brought up some
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very interesting points about the nature ofevil, and it made me add some
further questions to that, and Iwant to throw a question at you about
it. Look, you're not supposedto flip it. You are the but
you are a bulldog interviewer. You'reunfair. I'm a I'm a little old
woman in a village in UK.Well, we can have a discussion about
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it, because I just want toI want to open that door. I
want to open that door. Well, okay, so I would like to
get your thoughts on the nature ofevil, because I was, you know,
arguing, not really arguing, butkind of throwing it out there that
I'm not sure if that's something thatwe that originates from source. I'm not
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sure that something that we always have. Is it something that we learn or
is it something implanted. That isa big conflict for me because I was
saying, you know, there's acertain point where, yeah, I get
angry. You can pour some waterover somebody's head or punch somebody in the
face, but there's a certain levelthat you cross, a certain line that
you cross where you're killing somebody oryou're raping somebody. Were you doing something
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horrific that you know, really crossesthis good and evil line? In my
opinion at least. Okay, right, guys, just want you to know
out there, this is now theForbidden Knowledge news show. Okay, welcome,
coming from my true from my perspective, because I did listen to that
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show. I did listen. Icome from, as you're aware, from
the concept of non duality. SoI come from that I am consciousness having
a human experience, okay, andthat eye consciousness can experience all things at
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all times. And to do thatI must come into or use homo sapien
terminology. You know, I spokebefore the juxtaposition eye consciousness. So we've
got one side homo sapien sapien orthe beliefs, concepts ideas, and then
we have obviously just consciousness. Socoming from the homo sapi and sapien perspective.
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So I am consciousness experiencing polarity,okay. To know myself or to
experience anything, I have to experiencepolarity other up down, black, white,
good, bad or evil and nonevil. I don't know what's the
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opposite to evil anyway, So that'swhere I come cover from. What is
the question what's the opposite to evil? Non evil? I think that's better
than good. If you say nonevil. Yeah, I think it is.
So there you go, as anew term come out there. I'm
gonna yeah, I was an itchingand I'm copyrighting that. Don't steal my
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etching. So when I look,now, you have some awareness of my
experience as a homo sapian sapient.So I came into torture, torture,
child abuse, rape, being there, done it and did it and got
the experience. So I'm fully aware. So I'm not naive or talking out
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my backside saying dad, da dada da, I've experienced all of that,
Okay. For my truth is,um, it's gonna this is really
gonna be hard. So he swiped, he switched it around, hasn't he,
bastard? Um, it is consciousness. There is nothing outside consciousness.
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The first hurdle is if you havea truth that everything is consciousness, everything
is energy, quantum, physics,one o one. There you go.
That's the first step. That's mytruth. I don't expect anyone else to
share that truth if they don't wantto. I choose to share that truth
here and now. Then I'm experiencingI have experienced what you call evil,
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correct, I've experienced it. Atthe time of the experience, I was
not aware of who I was ina juxtaposition, just an experiencer. It
seemed real that I was a victim. I was being harmed and that had
to happen to go through the humanexperience. Otherwise you come in knowing your
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God. What good's that going todo? It's really liivan So when I
have to make so much sense.But if I, if I do,
I'm a god. What are youdoing anyway? UM, stop it,
You're not d So for me,I'm an experiencer of multiple things. It's
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consciousness experience playing the role of uma negative nellie what you call evil?
Now, hold on, this isthis is very paradoxical. And if you're
coming from a left brain human consciousness, I am just a limited conscious being.
It's like, okay, but bearwith me. Consciousness is the only
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thing that exists. We are theillusion. You said it on question one.
I am not my body, I'mnot my beliefs, I'm not my
thoughts. I'm not I'm not I'mnot um. So you know what you're
not. First, I didn't knowthat way back in the day doing the
work on yourself. Then I cometo realize the analogy I'm going to give
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you is like, imagine a movie. So we're let's do Dracula. That's
scary shit. Still, yeah,we're in a Vincent Price dracular movie and
we're watching it at the same time. We're experiencing all the scariness and horrors
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and the death and the blood andeverything, but we're observing it at the
same time. This is so hardto articulate. Does that make sense to
you? Do you understand where I'mgoing with this? Okay, So consciousness,
there is only consciousness. There's nothingoutside consciousness, Consciousness or God or
Christ. Consciousness we all know isgoof he's experienced. It is un conditional
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loves. There's no you know you'regoing to help Chris because you flipped on
Gloria. No, there is,There is nothing like that. So it's
consciousness. And I always say,imagine consciousness is a ball of light and
put other people use it to putthe colander over and all the rays come
out. That's the individual. Butto experience being a homo sapien sapien,
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you need polarities. You need polaritiesthem. Polarities are to push you and
push you, yeah, to startworking on from the limited conscious being victim
or me and all the rest oregotistic head so far up their backside they
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could brush their teeth. Homo sapien, sapien. And it pushes you to
go within, to ask the questionsyou're supposed to ask, and then you
tend to one oh one change theway you look at things, of things
you look at change and it switches, and then you see the illusion.
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The experience I had it it wasreal, it was absolutely real. But
in the juxtaposition, I'm fully awareit was the illusion of Maya that I'm
experiencing. That's deep shit, itis, and it gives me so much
to think about, and it resonatesvery highly with me, and it'll give
me some ammunition next time I talkedto Alex. So, yeah, that's
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my that's my truth, that's myperspective. Now can I have my podcast
turn it back over to you nextweek? Guys? Okay, so we've
got we've done what is the humanexperience? Who am I? Here?
Comes the big one? We havetouched on it. I think we've But
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if you want to go deeper,Chris, deeper, you can Why am
I here? Why are you here? But we've touched on that. Do
you want to expand on that abit more. Oh yeah, let's let's
talk about what could possibly be soulcontracts or previous agreements that you might have
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made to come here. Now.I'm not sure about this because I've never
had any near death experiences. Idon't haven't had any experiences like some of
my previous guests who say that theycan remember making these soul contracts or going
having a near death experience and havingmemories of a next possible next life or
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previous or you know, all theseexperiences that we can't verify, but people
have their own truth about them.Now, it makes me think that if
that is so, there are maybetimes that we choose to come back with
a specific goal, or maybe it'severy time. I really don't know,
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but I think it's a big possibilitythat that could be part of why we're
coming back, is because we chosea specific something to come here and do.
Okay, I mean that's not mytruth, but because of we're fully
aware of the human experience, thediversity every individuality will experience it. The
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answer to that question differently, remembermy orange analogy you have if we've both
experienced the orange, but totally different. I think my truth I don't think.
I know my truth is. Idon't have that as a truth.
Doesn't mean it's not a truth becauseI cannot comment because I don't experience what
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they experience when they have a neardeath experience to tell them that. So
I can't say that's not true.But it's not in my experience. When
I was told that years ago,and it was it was this scholar,
I believe it or not. Hewas a scholar and we were talking one
day and I was just playing thevictim life as you do, and he
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turned around and said to me,you chose to be here. And he
was in a religion I will notsay which religion, and he was a
gorgeous, gorgeous man. I saidwhat. I didn't even say, what
the fuck? Because he was areligious, really high religion. I went
what he said, you chose tobe here? And I just turned around
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and said, if that's the case, someone fordedly signed my name, why
would I choose to go through allthat I've gone through? Yeah, And
that's what I said, hold onnow, fast forward. And we always
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say hindsights a bitch, is itnot? I consciousness juxtaposition consciousness. I'm
fully aware that I chose it.I created it to have a human experience
from consciousness perspectives. Does that makesense to you? It does? Yeah?
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Ok So that truth to them.They're they're having that truth from the
maybe I don't know the homo sapiensapien consciousness, which is not wrong.
I'm going from consciousness. I neededto have this experience, so I chose
it. Is that all right withyou? That makes sense? That makes
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a lot of sense. Okay.It adds to my It adds to my
little soup of knowledge and um theoriesyou know, and things that I remember.
Remember, I'm psychick. I'm amedium. So don't try and flip
it again. Otherwise you're in trouble. And it's called elder the trouble.
Yeah you can. This is elderabuse. Respect your elders anyway. So
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now we're really getting into the nittygritty um. As you can see,
guys, this is not an interview. This is just chaos. I've even
platted my hair. I keep sayingit. The anything I can control in
the chaos is my chaotic hair.So I'm in glass. Oh I thought
you did that, So you couldjust beat me with those. That's later,
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Chris. Later we get up tooff camera, right, So the
next question, Chris, what isreality? We have sort of answered it.
However, I want you to godeeper down the rabbit hole. This
is a tough one for me,UM, because I don't think anything is
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real in a physical sense. Soif that's the case, what reality could
be could be many things for me, UM, it could be just a
program and a mass. I don'tI don't like the term simulation because is
that, you know, kind ofinfers that we agree on something any day.
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But maybe holographic reality or or somethingof that nature where nothing is really
physical and it's kind of like aprojection. UM. And I think that
I'm coming to the more of theterms that this could be, uh some
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sort of a just a special realmfor human development. UM. I don't
want to say planet. I don'tknow. If it's a planet, I
don't. I don't know if it'sflat, I don't. I don't know
what it is. But whatever itis, UM, I think that it
is a specific place for almost sapiensapien experiences for the spirit spiritual um us
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our consciousness, our spiritual selves,to come in here and experience this.
If you know that, I knowwhat you mean. It's basically what we've
already discussed. If you ever,if when we listen to the playback of
chats like this conversations, you canstart to see things. And I just
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saw something there. I was justabout to say, yeah, I agree,
and I went, hold on,I am consciousness having the human experience.
I'm creating this experience. However,I'm I'm in that position. I'm
going that's consciousness coming out. However, saying it from the homo sapien,
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I totally agree. I totally,absolutely agree. It's I know it's hard
sometimes get your head around this jackaposition, But if you go around and say
I'm a spiritual being having a humanexperience, you've got to go in that
conversation what does that mean? Andyou've got to say, I'm in a
jat'aposition. Here's me talking as Homosapiens say, to have the human experience.
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I'm doing the work, and thisis conscious saying that's correct for the
experience. So on that, wecan call it whatever you fucking want.
We can call it a simulation ona universe. I like to say it's
a it's a movie. At themoment, it feels like I don't know
the life of Brian or Monty Python, and I'm waiting for the big Foot
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to come out of the sky andgo. But it's some sort of illusionary
the illusion of Maya. Now,why I can say that's my truth and
why I validate that too is withinme is because quantent physics one oh one
validates that there is no thing suchas matter. Every thing that we perceive
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as matter is just energy vibrating ata certain frequency. There is a program
in the reality once the observer looksat it, so it doesn't exist.
It's a wave until I observe it, and then it's inch fall. And
the weirdest thing to that. Theother day, I was having this conversation
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with myself, as you do,because I'm Billy, no mates in the
village, you know, hot fuzzvillage, and all of a sudden,
this experience is etching and the floordisappeared. First Nana's whoa, And then
I got up and I was like, is it there? Is it there?
And then you come into my headwhen you wake up in the morning,
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the floor's not there until you observeit, and I was like,
I don't want to go there.Now, I'm not. Now, I'm
not Now where's the floor? Sohaving them sort of etchings downloads because they
won't know what our etchings are inour secret club, it really shifts the
reality. I've said all of that, Chris, but there isn't a switchtion
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that can describe it's an experience,and that what you just said there,
that whole thing would explain why paranormaland contact experiences are so personal. Yes,
and you know you can't ask tosee it from another person. No,
you can't, never ever, Andthe same experience someone will experience it
slightly different. Now we always getwell I've had a bad each experience,
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and well I've had a good eachexperience or the middle one is it was
bad then it got good because itmade me wake up. So it's the
same experience, but from coming fromdifferent perspectives. So right, we can
hold onto the reality one we're doinggood. We're doing good here? Now
who is ET? Who do youthink ET is? Whoever ET is?
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Now? This is this is I'mconstantly changing what I how I feel and
what I think about this good goodgood. I don't. I'm good.
Um, I used to think hewas a little green guy traveling here in
a ten can from a different universe. Um it kind of yeah, I'm
I'm right now. I'm stuck between. Is ET just a projection of our
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own consciousness because it has been plantedthere and we want to see ET or
you know, along those same lines. Is it our higher selves and our
guides that are still us and connectedto us, just speaking as ET because
we can maybe understand that better.I don't know, or is it?
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Is it something outside of the collectiveconsciousness? Is it something outside of what
we've been talking about. I don'tknow. That could be outside of this
whole consciousness calendar that we were discussing, UM that I sometimes question that.
Yeah, I keep it, Ikeep it in the back, you know,
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as I could be type thing umor is it it? You know?
Is it part of this whole collectiveconsciousness? But it's the experience that
these beings are having are always nonhuman. I don't know. That could
be something as well. I meanthe bit of outside the calendar, because
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I'd come from non duality perception.Um, everything is consciousness or quantum physics,
So there's nothing outside consciousness, soit can't come from outside. That's
that's my truth, that's me.So we can agree to disagree if if
we, if we need to,I will not throw my plats at you.
Yet, Well, I can't disagreebecause I don't know. It's just
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one of those things. These questionsneed to be asked. I had I
asked this question before to someone,and by asking the question what you're doing,
you're actually using something that the homosapien has that no one tends to
use much. Is called discernment.I do not say that patronizing. I
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just say you've got it, whydon't you use it? So it needs
to be asked. There's no rightor wrong answer. We're exploring consciousness myself
because I come from that perception.It's its consciousness in another shape and form,
and that conscious being that et,for example, is experiencing being that
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to play into the homo sapi andthe human experience for us at the moment,
my truth could change at any time. I eat so much humble pie,
it's like it's so hard to usewords. It's like for my consciousness,
my conscious experience to evolve, tochange to new experiences. Even though
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I've seen them since I was akid, but I now have an awareness
of my connection with them that way. So that is consciousness in the colander.
It's always been there, always beenthere, obviously, well from my
lifetime it has. It's always beenthere. It's never been It's not coming
in from anywhere. It's here.However, there's something about when you deconstruct
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who you are and realize you're notwhat you call the piece of meat,
the lump you know, and allthat your vibrant, the energy which has
proven scientifically now increases, oscillation occursand your frequency. And prior to that,
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the homo sapien limited consciousness could onlysee a certain amount. Yeah,
just a certain amount. You don'thave your gut feeling, your intuition.
You get it right now and again, or be in a medium, you
talk to spirit. You know,that does open the door, I must
admit. But as that raises,or whatever, Trevor you want to call
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it, you just notice what's alwaysbeen there. And it is said,
what is hidden will be revealed,what is hidden will be revealed. It's
all They've always been there as partof the homo sapien sapien experience and it's
because you can't say it's not,because the three D experience is polarity.
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Them in us different than me,black, white, ugly, beautiful,
gray, whatever names people want togive them or they give themselves. So
it's part of they are part ofthis experience. How does that sound?
That sounds good? And I wouldimagine it would be the same thing with
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spiritual entities that some consider angels oreven demons or other negative type non physical
entities, that it's all part ofthe same type of thing. Yes,
because so I guess when you whenif you ask who is et it could
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be the same question as who whoare the angels? Or who are exactly
exactly? I mean, you knowyou've got the angels, you've got in
my experience, UM, I haven'texperienced. Well, that's because I black
out before taking through a wall,so I don't really know what I've experienced
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that way. But there are otherexperiences where I do recall have always been
knowledge, experiential knowledge and knowing.UM, some other Homo Sabian Sabian conscious
being or experience maybe demons because theychose to experience that. Um for whatever
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that that experience is supposed to meanto them at some point you know they
have a choice. I say,you have a choice. It's like being
a medium and spirit comes in.I have a choice if I pick up
a negative nearly like very rare.I mean I don't even remember. Maybe
when I was a kid and Ifeel it would, I just said go
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away, didn't come in. Andthat's the same. You can do that
with even these dimensional beings, anything, just saying no. I had one
one day it was it obviously wasnot a spirit. It was another time
the only one nearest was and Iwas in or it could have been.
I don't know. Anyway, itdoesn't matter. And then I was sitting
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in my bed again. I allsat in my bed for experiences as you
do. Oh that come out wrong? Oh fuck, no, we're deleted.
I let it out of the bagand then I was in this space.
It was a very what you wouldcall spiritual, and it was just
so loving. And then I heardGloria externally. I jumped up, Chris,
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I went, eight, ship,don't you ever blah blah blah bleep
bleep like a lady does in theUK. Do that again. It stopped.
So what I'm trying to show youis we create our reality. We
have free will as a homo sapiensapien, we have free will of choice.
I don't want to experience that.So people that experience demons and that
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they have a choice, it's notwrong if they as consciousness wanting to experience
the dark and the light, that'sall. That's that's that's my truth.
I know it won't make people happy, but like I said, it makes
too much sense. It really does. If you believe in the consciousness and
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the human experience, that itself willcome in and get you to to deconstruct
every question we throw out to eachother. And lately I've been finding myself
if I'm out and blake, ifI'm in a grocery store, if I'm
somewhere and I get angry at someoneor I'm aggravated at someone, I have
to look at that person and say, oh, that's me. Yeah,
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a douchebag today. Okay, youjust have to let it go. Yeah,
I look at you know. Icall them negative nelies because I think
it's more affectionate, and I lookan inside, I'm not laughing at them,
and I'm going I know who youare. You may be portraying an
asshole. If you think I'm goingto respond and go down your reality,
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I've been there, done it,and did it and got the scars,
the flags, the T shirts.I've had enough of the human experience.
I'm out of it, and soI don't And because I like yourself,
if you don't react and you don'tconnect, then the situation will dissolve itself.
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Okay, there's many ways you cando that. I heard this amazing
guy on this. I watched aclip come up, and I wish I
could memories name, but I'm oldand decrepit and memory loss as you do
anyway, But it was so profound. It was nothing to do with consciousness.
But he was like, what wouldyou call a ninjitsu chai ti larte
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whatever, Trevor, lovely guy,lovely guy, and I used to do.
Look at me, gig. Youcan tell this is not an interview,
it's organic conversation. This is mehere, I am. And he
said to sant amazing, and hehad shown them how to defend themselves physically,
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but then he said to them,you don't need to do that.
What he said, watch this.So he got another student up and he
said to the student student I'm goingto look at you in a real mean
way. You're an asshole. You'vegot a knife in your pocket, and
you've got your mates in an ego. You're going to come just for me
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looking at you, and I wantyou to say to me, who the
fuck are you looking at coming?That's it. There you go. So
this student loves saying it to him, and it termined. He said,
oh my god, I'm so sorryhim. My wife just died last night.
He said, it's a total lie. It's been done. And he
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said the enemy, the energy ofthe negative person. It shocks him back.
He said, do things like that. You can do what you do,
do what I do. But ifyou if you really can't, if
you really want to face plant thenegative, Nellie, there that's really in
your face, and they're going foryou. He said, tell a lie,
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Tell a lie, tell a lie. Oh my daughter's just died.
You haven't even got a daughter.You break the energy, you break it
down because one will feed off theother. So you've got negative and positive.
So if you've got negative and I'mlooking at you, Chris and going
you're fucking looking at me, andyou come back there we are I beat
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you with the plats. Yeah.But if if I say you're fucking looking
at me and you come back andsay, I'm so sorry, Glory,
but you know my son died lastnight. It was just and I don't
know. Oh my god, I'mso sorry. Boom, you break it.
So there's many ways we can dothat, Chris, I've never thought
about it like that. Well Inever did. I mean, yeah,
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you would have thought that I shouldknow everything. Hello, I'm me.
Well it's better than you know,punching somebody in the face. But some
people still find it hard because theyget a resistance. They said, how
do you get out of it?I said, I'm not that spiritual,
said, don't say that bullshit.That's a lie, that's a belief.
But if you're not quite ready forthat, why didn't you start reacting differently
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from the homo sapien sapiing. Butthis guy just come up on social media
and I went, I never knewthat I might try that to see if
that no one ever comes at me. Do you want to come at me?
Chris, come up me and I'llsee it. You will knock me
out with those things so fast.I'm telling you, I'm on a roll.
With these right, So we've gonedeeper in that. So we just
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put them all in and then wesee what comes out at the end.
So I think we've already covered thenext question, how we connected. We've
covered that we were consciousness, they'reconsciousness. We are. It comes a
big one deep down the rabbit hole. You are so not flipping it on
me. Okay, why are theyhere? Chris? Why are they here?
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Now? I think you're you're talkingabout ET or yeah, yeah,
we're talking about ET. You knowthe experiences you've had and yeah, why
why your truth is at the momentwhich could change at any time. Why
are they here for me? They'rehere because I was to meet them.
I was ready to hear the message. I was ready to experience them,
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and I asked for it. Iwas really seeking it. But I believe
that that's why they're here, isbecause I was ready for them, ready
to experience them, and ready togrow from them. Wow. I think
that's as simplest the answer. That'sa wow answer, isn't that's a bit
found. He's showing off, guys. We're not going to have that.
I'm here to have to turn intothe nasty interviewer in a minute because that
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was too good, So really onthat one. It then sort of falls
on to the last question, butnot the end of the podcast, but
the last question, so we canpull it all in together. Why are
they though interested in us? Nowgo back to your answer to the last
question, why you think they're here? You asked them, but can you
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go deeper if possible? Sure?Why are they trusted in us? I
think this is another simple one,and I can't get angry at me for
this one either. I think theyare us. I think that there's so
much a part of us. Ithink that in my experience, I'm starting
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to believe that the main entity thatI communicate with is my higher self,
our future self, or whatever youwant to call it, and the other
ones are just highly connected energy partsof myself, maybe past lives of myself,
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maybe ancestors, but ultimately it's justa they are so connected with us
that they are part of us,and they have an interest in our expanding
consciousness. And I think when eachperson is ready for that new level of
growth in their life, either aspirit guide appears and aliens this entity,
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or they have a weird paranormal experiencethey can't explain something to maybe jump start
or boost that evolution that's happening.That was another wow. Do you know
I hate you? And you knowwhat, I am never going on your
show again. I hate him.That was another wow momentum. Now,
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I don't know if you see whatI've done. I asked eight questions,
which is from coming from the perspectiveof or homo sapien sapien in the juxaposition.
On the first question, we answeredthe subsequent seven. Did you get
that? Yeah? Did you seewhat? There's a method in my madness.
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If I want to demonstrate something becauseI can't articulate it. Sometimes I
have an agenda. You have talkshow genius in you? Oh do I?
Okay, So we've gone through thatthe conversation. Now we've we've we've
got it in there. Now,Chris, the last part of this conversation,
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what more can we pull out?Because soon, well, I think
the panel's going to come out beforethe podcast. I just can't make my
mind up what's coming out first.But we can do a bit of time
traveling. So guys, if thepodcast comes out before this it was meant
to be. If this comes outbefore the podcast, we have a secret
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podcast coming up. Yes, wedo super Did I pull that off?
Did I? YEA? So fuckingillogical, wasn't it? But never mind?
Anyway, we have that coming upwhere the six of us are going
to go deep. Okay, butindividually we're going deep. Okay. What
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more can we discern about the subjectwe spoke about. We have a a
resonance that we are consciousness having ahuman experience, and we've done all that.
What more? For example, Chris, what's next? Ah? Great,
I'm glad to see where you're goingwith that one. Um. I
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think collectively we're kind of in ashitty place right now. The planet is
tense, you know, the forpeople that have no idea what's going on
spiritually or consciousness wise, they havea lot piling on them and it's affecting
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the collective. And we have alot piling on us just because of everyday
shit. So and we don't alwaysdo the right thing all the time,
and there's a lot of outside Imean, not really outside, but there's
a lot of dystopian and negative thingsoccurring that is out of our immediate control
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at least, and we have tokind of see it unfold. But I
think The next step is how canwe make this incarnation, this experience for
the rest of the time we havein these particular meat suits a little better
than it is right now collectively.And um, that's the question that I'm
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kind of asking right now because Isee a lot of people suffering and I
don't like it, and you know, it feeds off of the negative energy,
and I want things to be betterfor everyone. You know who doesn't,
Well, there's a few, butyou know, Okay, No,
I think that's the next step.I think, yeah, I mean that
is from what I've heard from manypeople. It's a very similar scenario.
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There's no right and there's no wrong. The first part you spoke about,
so what we're witnessing and experiencing,So let's go step back in the jux
position, the homo sapien sapien iswitnessing is However, I'm going to have
to pull it back and say todeconstruct, I'm a spiritual being having a
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human experience, and I have togo to the other side. So consciousness
is aware of this is going on. Okay, it's fully aware of what's
going on, that them conscious beingsare doing this, that and the other
and wh're noticing these conscious beings arereally trying to take control and crush divide
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homo sapien sapien into different camps andbeing more control and more control. So
coming from consciousness the observer, you'reaware, but you don't participate. So
that means the likes of us donot comply. We don't comply, so
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we're not in that reality. Say, but the reality is here. This
is where choice is coming in.Know thyself or stay in that reality.
I have an understanding from this perspectiveof non duality because I've changed the way
I look at things. I tellyou, if someone comes to try to
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do something to me, I willfight to my physical death. No,
there's no compliance. I'm here tohave a human experience. I must respond
in a physical way. It's obvious, isn't it. If you come and
try and kill me, Chris,I'm going to fight back and kill your
first face plant you're down, andjump and stamp on your head. Obviously
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you don't love a light. There'snothing going on. Hello, Yes,
there is. There's a reality we'reexperiencing. We need to experience the human
experience. We need to partake makechoices in it. So so. But
I'm coming from I am consciousness havinga human experience, so I have no
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fear of what's going on, nomatter what happens. However, coming from
that perspective, if you want touse the word no, I won't even
use the word I coming from thatperspective, Chris, and I think we
touched upon it when I was inyour show last time. It's already done.
We did it. It's an illusion. This extra extra is illusional.
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It will dissiplate. What is hiddenwill be revealed. And if you can
just step back and go, Idon't want to kill her yet, but
let me just use a bit ofdiscernment. If you have a belief it's
still going on, you will experiencethat belief in your reality. You will
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create it. If you have atruth and knowing I am a spiritual being
having a human experience, well Ican't believe that I'm in it. I'm
part of it. If I'm takenoff to some camp or something, I
will experience that, just like Iexperience multiple rape and torture. I'm aware
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of that. Does that make senseto Chris, Yeah, it makes perfect
sense. So there is nothing tofear but fear itself and that them negative
nellies or whatever you want to callthem, evil bastards, whatever you want
to call them. It doesn't needa difference. That consciousness is pushing and
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pushing the polarity to the consciousness thatis awakening in every individual. Homo sapien,
sapien. Look, one person,one human does not wake up the
cake. It goes. It's abelief system. We need so many percentage.
If you if you know who youare, you know that's a belief
and it's not true. If youbelieve it, it's your truth and you're
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in this reality waiting for a percentagethat you think is correct my truth.
At this moment, we did it. It's just I look at some and
go, come on, you knowwho you are, you know we've got
through it. It's time to fuckingcelebrate. Have that even if you,
even if you don't believe me,take it on and live it and feel
(51:22):
it right right, We did it, stopped with the illusion. And you
know, I watched Riders Show theother day, the amazing Lindsay on there
and she gave an analogy and aboutChina and she said, people think that's
an independent state. It's illusion.It's not they're all together, wake up,
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and I'm going it's all an illusion. So if they're coming the love
and light us and say we're nearlythere, we need more, we need
more. You know I'm there.I I free, even if they come
and take me off the boot campwherever I am, I'm free because I
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know who I am and I'm aware. It's the illusion now that energy I'm
projecting out or another being. I'mnot saying I'm awake. Consciousness never sleeps
there, you know, they saywake up consciousness or I'm not. Amnesia
is used a lot, and Iused to use the word amnesia. The
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homo sapien sapien identity mask one pretendingto be what it's not, couldn't have
amnesia. Consciousness is there is neverasleep, never forgets, and we all
know all through our life, evenas young as yourself and as old as
I am, now, all throughit. You go back, the mask
(52:51):
comes off, and consciousness light bulbor download, and it goes back on.
You play the role. Shakespeare hasjust turned twenty five, right,
you know what, Chris twenty one? That come on, I'm sorry,
my plats out and whip you hard. So does that make sense to you
if you come in from there.It's a Monty Python. You know.
(53:17):
I'd said it on your show beforeabout some of the laws people. And
I heard someone else on one ofyour shows or Rider's show. I can't
remember, because I watch you.I'm stalking you both because you're both amazing,
both amazing. That's why I gotall my info from from you too.
And I look good. Yeah,I got an extra check in the
(53:37):
meal for you. There you go. There, you and someone I think
it was your show, I don'tknow who show it was. It was
somebody's show, so I'm not plaguarizingor stealing your copyrighting. And they said
they were talking about putting a facecovering on to stop you getting ill.
And this person said, if youlift up the box, it says this
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doesn't do it. It doesn't protectyou. So there you are. This
is the irrational whatever. I've gotto wear this because it will be to
protect me, because it's I gotto But on the box it says I'm
not protecting you. Now. They'rethe little things we noticed, like the
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one I told you about the lawin this country you can't have in the
lockdown, you couldn't have sets inthe house, you'll kill people, you'll
spread it, but you can gooutside. That was what he said live
and you're like, okay, Sothere were the little ones all through the
last seventeen months. It's the logical. I'm sorry. You even heard someone
(54:44):
prominent in your country tell people todrink certain things and I'm like, you
what what? Bug? Go anddo it anyway. Yeah, you're not
laughing at them. You're looking atat this. These are laws. These
so you start to deconstruct it,and that something's not right. That's where
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you start. Something is fishy.And the more that you use a bit
of discernment, well it's now basicallysome of these things are so illogical.
Why would someone come up with that? That is consciousness showing you now what
was hidden. We believed all thatship before before we become aware on the
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individual. Who am I? Iam not this limited victim to be abused
or and then you tell yourself,I'm no good, I'm used. There's
Noah loves it and all that I'vebeen there, I should have won a
fucking Oscar for victim mode. Iwas the best actress in the universe of
that one. Until you get thereyou believe everything you're told. Do this,
(55:58):
do that, watch cycle, dothis, get educated this way,
sit this way, stand this way? Do you know you can't swear on
a podcast? All of that andeveryone goes petcor and then but then all
of a sudden, the anarchist comes. How you go, I see looger,
Why can't I do that? Whosaid I can't call Chris Matthew a
(56:22):
little shit? Irritating? And whosaid I can't do that? Because my
opinion of you should not define you. You define yourself. You value right.
So that's how it starts, andthat is major. Now before you
comply, all I ask before youcomply to anything, or even don't please,
(56:45):
don't agree with anything I say becauseI have no idea what I'm talking
about. You know, get yourown truth. It's the best truth to
have your own truth. But beforeyou comply to something, use a bit
of discernment. Why am I losinghomo sapien sapien my freedom? Why am
(57:07):
I giving it to them? I'vehad a conversation with Rider. Obviously you're
going first and Rider's going second becauseyou pay me more money than he does.
And he raised really prominent that weboth noticed at the very beginning of
this complete DNA extract. Yeah,and he put it into his truth and
(57:32):
I was like, wow, Inever thought of it like that. Oh
that's in my consciousness now. Butit's his experience, and I totally accept
it, even though I'm coming froma different angle difference. And I look
at every person's conversation or truth andI go, wow, that's cool.
(57:54):
Look at the work they had todo to get there. I'm not alone
in the work. I'm doing well. All going the same timeline or now
we're all experiencing differently, which meansI am experiencing all things at all times
in all time timelines. Now,how does that sound? That sounds awesome?
(58:17):
And I have to thank you,Gloria. I will be going on
a hike here in the next fewhours, and I'm going to a little
mountain hike, and I was goingto do some meditating once I reached the
top of my mountain, and Iwill have a lot to meditate on today.
You will fantastic. You will.You just go in and go inside
(58:37):
into the silence and ask the questionwho am I? Even though you know
intellectually and experientially, Yeah, stillgo in, Just go in and then
do the work. I'm not thatI'm going to drag my meat suit up
there. And do you have anybig foots? I hear about you've got
big foots in the middle, ohif I've heard there are, and I
would love to see one of those. But Chris, can you not get
(59:00):
murdered because that's very selfish because inthe panel and our future conversations together,
well, Chris, I don't thinkwe've touched on everything. I want to
thank you for the conversation. Ifanyone out there thinks, well, that's
not very professional, it wasn't supposedto be professional. It's two human beings
(59:23):
us having a conversation. And that'swhat my podcast about. Me and Chris
both have individual shows where we dothe professional stuff, you know, as
you do. We play the homosapien sagem. But this is just consciousness
and just a conversation. Zoom tozoom. Okay. I thank you so
(59:45):
much for your contribution. I willsend you the money in the post,
and I'd like to thank everyone forwatching until next time, until my next
guest. I now know how toturn off the video. I didn't on
the other video I was live goinghow would I turn this off right now?
How do I do it? Sowatch this one. Bye guys,
(01:00:06):
see you next time for the nextconversation.
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