Infamous Minds - Ep 45 - Serial Killers by location

What are the most active serial killer loacations? Where do they come from? where do they kill most often?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:20):
I got nightmares in my head. I fear at the
hospitiled up until I can't hear that.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
My mind fills up into a creature and it haunts me.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Somewhere much Welcome to Infamous Minds. Hello everybody. I hope
y'all are doing well. Hell. Yes, this is a different time,

(00:57):
a different day for this show. Uh. But you know,
life gets in the way. We had to do some
reschedulings and juggling a little bit, but here we are.
We'll be back on schedule next week. But the uh
I wanted to talk about I was. I was, and

(01:19):
I'm I'm Danielle. I always find this stuff by accident.
When when when I'm looking at other stuff or whatever
and I find this stuff. I'm like, it popped up
in like on Google. I was, I was doing search
for something and it just popped up on Google. Serial
Killers per so and so, And I'm like, we've never

(01:41):
talked about that, you know, And I'm like, that'd be
a cool that'd be a cool show. Because I got
to reading about it. It was really interesting. So anyway,
how have you been doing.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yes, I've been doing really well. I must I quite
I'm quite happy because my sister is healing really well.
She's coming back to normal, thanks everybody to their prayers
and you know, good wishes. So it was a pretty
rough almost a month that they were pulling through trying

(02:15):
to find out, you know, if everything will be okay,
especially because of that nerve blocking her jaw and God
forbid that could go in a really wrong direction. She
still needs to do some exercises and everything. You know,
she'll be on a self diet for almost a month
and a half. Then you know, for six months she
cannot have any nuts and it bones to chew or

(02:36):
stuff like that. But at least in you know, she's healing.
Some pretty happy about that. Also, I'm quite curious texts.
I was invited to be part of the Women of
the Excellency. So I was at the conference on Saturday.

(02:59):
We had a all around the world, all different races
and religion and mostly I must say ninety nine percent
of were Christian ladies, and they were talking about the woman,
even artificial intelligence, birth of children, you know, protection of
the violence and abuse. So I really did enjoy that.
It was an honor to be there, and then you know,

(03:23):
I started my channel. You supported me so much Randy,
Gary and everybody. I apologize Ladies and JENTLPY yesterday for
that little issue with the volume, but you know, next
week will be much better. And I love what Chiro said.
I was laughing because don't let this push you down.
Continue these things happened, so I was pretty happy. And

(03:45):
Ladies texts, my mom and my sister, they really do
enjoy it coming out of the shell. So I'm quite
happy to see. You know, many things are happening, so
I'm excited. And there's a lots of changes in my life,
so I'm excited. Are positive things, I must.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Say positive, Oh absolutely, you know, and uh yes, I
was excited to see do you do that? And you know,
start your own you know, start your own thing, do
your own thing. And it, uh we did find it.
You had some you had some audio issues. We figured
it out, or y'all figured it out. I didn't have

(04:25):
to do it, but y'all figured it out. And I'm
going forward to You've got some really exciting stuff that
you know, because that you're going to be doing live.
That's I'm looking forward to it because I know you're
gonna you're gonna try to go live like when you
go out.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Spirit and you know text, you're gonna be live there too.
You want to be live with us too.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
I was asking yesterday in a shot what people would
mostly like to do, so people were saying that will recipes.
They were like savings. So we're gonna go to the
store talk about how to save some money. We're gonna
talk about good recipes. You know, economy is bad everywhere.
You know, we are not living in the time of
the Golden Era now we are more into the Great Depression.

(05:15):
But we try our We'll try our hardest. Like I said,
you know, this is gonna be really really interesting show
that is just starting to blossom. So I'm very very
happy that many people join yesterday, and I'm gonna connect
it also to the stream yard and the Facebook, so
it's gonna be quite interesting. Good evening could saying good

(05:38):
Canadian like Hello, Mike, Hello, Jason Finch, Jason Temporine, Oh
my god, you guys always full house. We are happy
to have everybody here. And Gary was there yesterday also
to support me. So yeah, we did the caring of
the pumpkins text or Roger player hell hello hello, and

(06:01):
we wanted to surprise you and that's how I was yapping,
but there was no tone, and I'm like, no, but
it's fixed now, so next time they'll be all better.
Like you say, you'll learn and you go on. So
that's that's what I love about Mickey. Welcome Mickey, Jason Finch,
fantastic show as always. Friends, Jason, you know, God bless you.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
And I also want to mention y'all keep Randy and
his family and in your prayers. His daughter was in
a car accident. She's fine now, I mean she's stable, so,
but it was a it was a bad one. But
y'all keep him and his family and your prayers for me.

(06:51):
This topic that we're fixing talking about, we've never we've
never talked about it, and it's it's interesting when you
start seeing like how many what what like down here
in the in the States, how many what states had

(07:11):
the most serial killers? What states had the most serial killings?
And then when you start looking at what when you
broaden it the international, like what y'all have in Canada,
per region and all that kind of stuff, and it's

(07:32):
interesting because you start wondering with me, you start wondering, why, why, why,
why why does this state have so much more than
this state. You know, are there mitigating factors in the region,

(07:54):
you know, But I figured what we could start out with.
We could start out with, well, thank you for voting.
That's awesome. That too.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Now you guys are voting, good luck. I wish you,
as a Canadian all the best, uh and I hope
you choose what would be best for United States America.
My mother is joining text now. She's saying her vote
is going towards to Donald Trump. That's her choice. So
you guys count her country is voting for Donald Trump.

(08:29):
So Canada and asked, we are voting for Donald Trump.
And also from back home of course, from Europe, so
we are all voting for Donald Trump. In our whom
we are more Republicans than we are Democrats, like we
cannot vote, but we are just that's what's That's what
our choice would be if we were having American citizenship,

(08:50):
that's what would be our choice. You know, a little
bit of politics aided. She had to say it good choice.
She likes Trump.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, so I was looking at this, h mm hmmm
mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
See, maybe y'all should do a political show.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Maybe you should do a political show. You never know. Yeah,
you never know. Anything is possible these days. Maybe it's
too much like ever's better now.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
So I was, I was looking at this and the
let's see, Yeah, here it is. M hm. So let's start.

(10:07):
Let's start from the from Do we want to start
at the highest or we want to start at the lowest?
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Whatever you decide, I'll go over the floor. I have
my my your own veil of notes, you know me.
I come with the thousands of the notes.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
All right, well, let's work up to number one and
we'll run. We'll run through these real quick. But the
state in the United States with the lowest amount of
now this is total victims from nineteen ninety two to
twenty nineteen. Okay, so, but South Dakota is the lowest

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with ten. Now the most known, the the big the
most known. Now this is crazy. The most known serial
career in that serial killer in that state and is
William Kanecky William Kinneci KANICKI. Yeah, he was dubbed that

(11:12):
human monster. And we're gonna have to look into this
because this is interesting. He only had he only had
like three victims, so it's a very low victim arount.
For him. But what I thought was interesting is he

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escaped from prison in nineteen nine, in nineteen nineteen, and
I don't know if they ever caught him, so we
may have to look into that. Now. Vermont comes in
second place with eleven total victims from not and this
is nineteen ninety two to twenty nineteen from serial killings,

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and the biggest, the most well known killer from that state,
not where he did the killings, but from where he
from where he hails from, is Ted Bundy. Of course
he had thirty victims. He was executed. Now North Dakota

(12:23):
had thirteen victims. Eugene Butler is their most well known,
you know, serial killer. He died in asylum two years
before his crimes were even discovered, which.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
I thought that was that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, and something we've never talked about. Hawaii. I would
I would have. I was when I was going to
be Yeah, when I was looking at this list, I thought, well,
Hawaii is going to be like I figured Hawaii'd be
down at the bot Beast, but they're not.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Fourth up on the list with thirteen victims. The Honolulu
strangler had five victims and they never caught him.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah. I read Aboudo one that was quite interesting.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
And then we've got New Hampshire with fourteen victims. Terry
Petter Russeman, the comedian killer, he had six to twelve
victims and he died in prison. Then we go we
we we go up to Delaware and if you'll notice

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a lot of these these early these ones are the
lowest counts are in the northeast. I want you all
to start, you know, try to keep that in mind.
They're in the northeast portion of the of the country.
Delaware had sixteen victims. Steven Bryan Panel the route for
the Route forty killer had two five victims. He was

(14:01):
executed Rhode Island. This is where we start jumping up.
Twenty five victims, the Rhode Island Ripper, and he only
had three victims serving life in prison. Then we jump

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over to the West and Wyoming they had thirty two victims.
The Dating Game Killer was from Wyoming, Rodney Alcola. Now
this is crazy. He had anywhere from eight to one

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hundred and thirty victims.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
They don't know, Lord have mercy.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
But he died in prison awaiting his execution. Now we're
gonna fly back over to the northeast and go all
the way up to the top of the country in Maine.
Maine had thirty five victims. John Joseph Jubert the fourth

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the he was known as the Nebraska boy Snatcher. So
he did his killing that he's from Maine, but he
did his killing that in Nebraska. He only had three victims.
He was executed West Virginia at forty three Harry Powers
the West Virginia blue Beard. Wow, blue Beard. Would you

(15:36):
like to explain people what the difference because we have
two different We have a blue beard and we have
a black widow, and well.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Those are different to us. Yeah, you can explain that
because I'm gonna go deeper a little bit about the
states the Golden time was killing and what it is
because I can see really did a part of God.
People are saying wow, and I'll say also, I'll probably
when I mentioned which state produced the most city of killers,

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I think they'll be quite shocked.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yes, yeah, I was. I was. Uh, yeah, I was too, well,
I was and I wasn't. Really.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, everybody's seeing wow.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, but the difference the Okay, the blue beards and
the black widows are basically the same thing, just different genders.
So the bluebirds is the one that about that kills
their wives and all that kind of stuff. The black widows,
of course kill their husbands. So that that's that's what

(16:44):
those are, that's what they call them. Let's see uh
Idaho had forty five victims. Joseph Edward Duncan the third,
he had five to seven victims. He died in prisons.
We got Montana, Duke's home state, Wayne Nance, the Missoula Missoula, Yeah,

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the Missoula maler he was. He had six victims. He
was shot and killed while committing a home invasion. So
good on them. We jump up to Iowa fifty three victims.
Donal Gilbert Smith, he had six victims. He died in prison.

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And what your what's your? If you if you look,
if you'll listen and pay attention. What we don't hear
a lot of is the serial killers committing suicide. That's
the narcissism coming out in them. Uht Alaska they had

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sixty four victims. Robert Hanson, the butcher baker, we talked
about him. He had seventeen victims and he died in prison.
New Mexico and seventy two victims David Parker Ray the
toy box killer. We've talked about him. He was, Yeah,
it was horrific. And what was interesting about his case though,

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is he involved his wife and his daughter and in
his schemes. You know, yes, so, I mean he was
probably one of the most notorious manipulators of the bunch
because to get to get that kind of cooperation from

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you know, two different people, especially females, you know, and
they not only helped lure the victims, they participated in
the torture. He had the best They can tell that.
He had sixty victims and he died in prison. Minnesota

(19:02):
had eighty one victims, and it was their most known
for the most famous one came out there was Paul
Michael Stephanie. He was called the weepy voiced killer, and
that's because of the way he's talked. It was real whiney. Basically,

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he only had three victims and he died in Proved.
Nebraska had eighty two. Charles Raymond Starkweather he had eleven victims.
He was executed. Utah had eighty six. Arthur Gary Bishop
he had five victims, he was executed. Mississippi ninety eight victims.

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Glenn Edward Rogers. He had anywhere from three to six.
His descenance is currently under appeal. So well, he ended
up doing life or you know, being executed. Now, this
is where we jump quite a bit. Nevada one hundred

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and seventeen total victims. Yeah, Tony ray Amadi he had
three to six victims. He's serving life in prison. Wisconsin,
Wisconsin had one hundred and thirty four and or no,
i'm sorry, one hundred and eighteen. And of course, the

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most famous one that came out of Wisconsin, and he
actually did his killings in Wisconsin too, was Jeffrey Dahmer,
the Milwaukee cannibal. He had seventeen victims that they know of.
And uh, he was killed in prison. Everybody, I'm sure
everybody's heard about that. And it was weird the circumstances

(20:46):
behind his his his execution. Wait, why he got killed?

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Was the guy that killed him said he's no lady killer.
He's what was it? He's not really a killer? He
it was because the way he did it, he drugged
his victims and everything. This other guy took a section

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of exception to that and he said, he's no killer.
I'm a killer. So and the guy actually killed two people,
the Dahmer and another guy at the same time there
in prison while they were cleaning the bathrooms and stuff.
Let's see. Then we go to Connecticut, which is one

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hundred and thirty four. Michael Bruce Ross had a while, yeah,
and we keep going up from here, folks. He was executed.
Arkansas had one hundred and forty three and their most
famous one was Kenneth Williams. He had four to eight
victims he was executed. Colorado had one hundred and sixty one.

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Scott Lee Campbell from there and he had forty ten
victims and he's serving seventy years, which I thought was weird.
I mean, well, I don't guess he's getting out.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
But I'm not sure. You know, texts not to be rude,
but when they give them these seventy years, ten years,
eleven years, I honestly don't agree with that. Of course,
you know, I totally think that in some states, just
like here in Canada, we don't have a capital punishment,
so we don't have a hanging, shooting, electric chair, a

(22:32):
little injection or whatever, so we do have life sentence,
and life sentence to us is like twenty five years
so if they won't tom quite that a couple of times,
but there's no even let's say a hundred years that
will actually take maximum of your life. But I don't
agree when they say like ten years, twenty years, so
that means the victims that were taken by these narcissistic mania,

(22:58):
I will say and use that word, that are really
mentally disturbed. And they shouldn't even walking around the normal communities,
you know, are still sitting there in ten years and
they come outside, you know a little bit too farihabb
and it's okay, let's have a cup of coffee, it's fine.
That really makes me upset, especially as somebody who is
an advocate for women, for children, for people with disabilities

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and et cetera. It makes me really upset when I
hear that, And I think that's where our law, it
doesn't matter which country it is, it needs really to
get strong, right, it's really really right. Ten years, it's okay,
By ten years, Okay, that's enough. So I really don't
agree with that.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
But yes, and Julia has a good point. She's calling
me out, which thank you for doing us ud. Julie says, text,
please stop saying only in front of the number of victims.
I'm not trying to be rude. Wonders too many. I
totally agree, and that's my bad. When you start looking
at the it's just when you start looking that the
number of victims that some of these people had, it's

(24:04):
just when you you know, when you get into double
digits and then you see, oh, well there's this guy
had three. It's only and that's the wrong term you use. Only.
But thank you, Julie, really, I'm glad you caught that.

(24:25):
Let's see where were we Colorado. Yeah, he's serving seventy years.
Gott Lee Campbell, Oregon had one hundred and seventy five victims.
Randal wood did Randall Woodfield, the I five killer, had
eighteen to forty four victims. He's serving life plus one
hundred and sixty five years. He will never see the

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light of day. Oregon had one hundred and seventy five. No,
I just did org Kansas. I know that Mickey was
wondering about Kansas one hundred and eighty one victims denist

(25:07):
rate of the BTK killer. We talked about him. Yes,
he had, he had ten victims and he's serving life
in prison. Now. A lot of these, a lot of
these these these when you see life in prison, life
in prison, life in prison, seven and seventy years, all
this kind of stuff, they're never going to see the
lot of day. But they a lot of these killers

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made a deal and to avoid the death penalty in
a lot of these states, they would agree to show
where they're victims that couldn't be located or you know,
for to give the families some closure. So they took
the death penant, the death sentence off the table, and
they just gave him life in prison. So Arizona is

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one hundred and eighty eight. Mark Goudour, the baseline killer,
had nine victims. He's serving nine list sentences. South Carolina
had one hundred and ninety eight. Pee Wee Gaskins. Pee
Wee Gaskins was the killer over there. He's an interesting
he's an interesting case too. He had anywhere from twelve

(26:17):
to one hundred victims. He was executed. And there is
a great there's a great show out there that's got
an interview with his daughter, and that's that's a fascinating
that's a fascinating interview. And he was he was brutal,

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Oh my gosh. Alabama Tom Wissingham had four to eight victims.
He was executed. Oklahoma had two hundred, and we're nowhere
near the top, folks. This is the numbers that are
going to come up or just gonna blow your mind.

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He had four to eight victims he was executed. No, no,
I'm sorry, nine to thirty four victims and he was executed.
Roger Dale Stafford in Oklahoma. Massachusetts had two hundred. They're
tied with Oklahoma. The Boston Strangler he had thirteen victims.

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Robert Robert and what was interesting about this case, Robert
dissolved dissolvo was the main such suspect, but he was
killed while in prison for other crimes, so somebody got
to him. Tennessee has one or two hundred and eight.

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You have Paul Dennis Reed, the fast food killer. He
had seven victims. He died in prison awaiting execution. Kentucky
we have with two hundred and twelve. Robert Franklin Smallwood
Junior had three victims, three known victims serving life in prison. Maryland, Maryland,

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which is Donnie Cho's home state, had two hundred and
thirteen and Joseph Royd Bethanie had five to thirteen victims.
He died in prison. New Jersey had two hundred and
thirty two. Richard Francis Cottingham, the Torso killer, had anywhere
from nineteen to one hundred victims, and he is serving

(28:27):
life in prison. Virginia had two hundred and seventy two.
I know this is a long list for going through
fifty states. Guys. Virginia had two hundred and seventy two.
Alfred old Robletto Perito had nine victims. He was executed.
North Carolina had two hundred and ninety five. Henry Lewis Wallace,

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the Taco bell strangler, had eleven victims. He's on death row.
Louisiana three hundred and forty four. Samuel Little was the
serial killer from Louisiana. He didn't do his killings in Louisiana.
He was called the choke and stroke killer. He had

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anywhere from sixty to ninety three victims. He died in prison.
Indiana is sitting at three hundred and forty nine. Robert
Richard Baumaster, we've talked about him. Eleven to twenty three victims.
Now see this is this is what you're going to see.

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The least of right here, suicide and we got Missouri,
which we all know is the blonde state, and Paul
State three hundred and fifty victims. Charles Ray Hatcher had
sixteen victims, committed suicide in prison. So there's another one.

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Washington now started to jump up again here three hundred
and ninety six victims. Gary Leon Ridgeway, the Green River Killers,
anywhere from forty nine they to ninety killings victims. He
is serving life in prison now. He's one of the

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ones that I was talking about that he made a
deal with the prosecution to show them where the victims were,
you know, where the victims they couldn't find was. And
they still didn't find all of them, but they found
a lot of them with his help. And he's serving
life in prison and he's still alive. Georgia with four
hundred and nine. The Casanova killer John Paul Knowles had

(30:39):
eighteen to thirty five victims. He was killed on arrest
when they arrested him, he was gunned down. Michigan, our
own Babyfoot, Michigan rob State four hundred and twenty five.
Benjamin Atkins had eleven and he died in prison. Four

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hundred and sixty two Harvey Miguel Robinson had three victims
and he's on death road. Ohio, we jump up again.
Five hundred fists, very much, yes, Sean Michael Gate, Shawn Michael, great,
excuse me. Had five victims scheduled to be executed next year.

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So when he gets executed, we'll cover that. Daniel, you
might make a note to him so we can keep
track of that.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Okay, New York, let me know when do you want
me to jump in and talk about the Golden Age
and what's happening now? Because I thought to say a
little bit about that. I think that's what people will
then understood why we are having so many killers happening. Yeah,

(31:52):
when you're writing, we are not hurry. Yes, so it's
a huge list. Yes, I have it in front of
me too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Pennsylvania, we jump up again. Uh, let's see now, I'm sorry,
Let's go to New York. Six hundred and seventy seven victims.
Of course, son of Sam was from New York and
he did his killing in New York. He's serving six
life sentences now. He he is like most of these

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most most killers that you know are spending life in
prison or whatever. I'm sure some of them have. I
don't want to say turn over a new leap, but
they have accepted God. He's one of the big ones.

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He has become a prison minister and everything. So there's
a lot of his life. Though when he talked about
being that's by the you know, a demon that was
embodied his neighbor's dog and that type of stuff. Then
he recanted that statement that what's interesting about him. There's
also a theory out there that there was more than

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one son of Sam, and we had to talk about
that one of these days too. But New York had
one hundred or six hundred and seventy seven and he
had six victims. He's serving the six eye sentences. Illinois
six hundred and eighty victims. John Wayne Gacy, the Killer Clown,
had thirty three known victims. He was executed Florida. We

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make a big jump here, a big jump, and like
I said, folks, the numbers are going to surprise you.
Nine hundred and thirty three murders. One of the most
famous ones out of Florida was Daniel Hard Rowling was
called the Gainesville Ripper. He had eight victims. He was
executed Texas and Florida is one of the top three,

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Texas had nine hundred and eighty four killings. Jeanine Jones,
the Angel of Death anywhere from two to sixty victims.
He's serving life in prison and taking the number one
slot and blowing everybody out of the water. Is California

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one thousand, seven hundred and seventy seven victims that I read.
When I saw that number, I oh, my gosh. Of course,
one of the most known killers from that area. He
did his killings there too, was a Zodiac killer he's
created for thirty seven victims. He was never found and

(34:57):
that that is crazy to kill thirty seven people that
we know of and to taunt the police like he did,
and to never be caught. That we have to do
a show on the Zodiac.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Killer, Yes, oh for sure.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
And I'll let you have it from there.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
You know, I was looking, well people were so that
way we can share the messages. So that's what I
was sharing because people were getting involved. So I like that.
So ladies and gentlemen, we're really happy that you are
actually getting involved because this is a very serious subject.
And like I'm saying, you know, when I see that
people that are, you know, not really paying attention to

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what's happening around them, and they think, you know, oh,
by the way, this cannot happen to me. It's a mistake.
Any of these qurtable crimes can happen to anybody, just
like a car accident, God forbid, it can happened to anybody,
you know, breaking a legg you know, getting a tooth
pulled out. This can happen to anybody. And these people
target anybody or anyone. It just depends if you actually

(36:11):
go into their list of attraction. It doesn't matter a
male or a female. So we're not going to be
the stereotype. So serial killing phenomenon in the United States
has been really something that was you know, glorified in
the movie Is God Forbid, you know, showed all around
the Hollywood and et cetera. Even now that you know
the Hollywood is going down mostly with their terrible and

(36:34):
horrible way of abusing and using each other or the
people outside of the area. We can say that especially
the time of the killing the United States was happening
between nineteen seventies to two thousand, what was also called
the Golden Age of the murders, Like it's a serial murders.

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The cause of basically these issues will basically have a
huge problem because of urbanization. So what was happening from
nineteen seventies to two thousand United States of America had
lots of organization happening, And I wrote some migration to

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so people going from one place to another. There was
people that were coming from a different country. It's different continents,
and you know, some children were born there, some children
you know, okay Asalila, and then you know, the issues
just started raising up and up. Many people were thinking,
you know, is it going to be which skate is
going to have the most killers that are basically coming

(37:40):
and just hunting on the people. I was thinking, it's
gonna be Florida, It's gonna be California. Actually it is Alaska.
That's what's shocking. It's a country that state, forgive me,
in the United States that has the most killer serial
killers in the entire countries and it has very small population.

(38:03):
This is what's very strange texts. You know, when I
was looking at it, I was like, why are we
doing this? And I will just read exactly, ladies and gentlemen,
what I have is saying Alaska is, without a doubt
the most popular state among serial killers, with fifteen points

(38:24):
sixteen five serial killing per one million inhabitants. And don't
forget that's where we have the most people missing in
the United States of America. It's also one of the
mysteries that it's happening. You know, where are the people?
We have people just disappearing from four to one one.
We have UFO, we have Bigfoot, we have Abi, we

(38:47):
have Cia, and all these mysterious cases happening there and
lots of times, attraction of you know, is drawn to California,
to Florida, to New York because these are very famous
and popular states. We know the Manhattan for a long time,
you know, we know Boston and all these cities that've

(39:07):
been existing for hundreds years already where the immigrants from
the Europe and from around the world were happening to
come and find their new homes. But everybody forget about
the Alaska where most of disappearances and killings are happening
with such a small population. Another thing that people basically
don't understand when you look at it now. In two

(39:30):
thousand twenty up to two thousand and twenty three, the
top state in the killing would be California, in ciliar killing.
So it's one thousand, seven hundred and seventy seven. It's
quite if you looked at it. And then I started
looking wide. So California is a very attractive state and

(39:51):
looking deep into basically demographics, you know, and psychway of
the people there. People are more free. There's lots of
tourists coming. There's also lots of people you know that
come there maybe to try their fame, you know, and
then after that they lost it. They get involved in
drugs and alcohol, prostitution underground, and you know, it's an

(40:13):
easy way to hunt and find what you're looking for.
And then you have Texas nine hundred and eighty four
and of Florida. So these three are the top ones
for two thousand, from two thousand twenty up to two
thousand twenty four. And you know what's surprising texts when

(40:34):
you look at some of these states and like you're
saying the serial killers or a crime that is happening,
it's actually quite opposite. Because you have Texas that it's
Southern beltfare. You guys have a really strong law. You know,
I really do admire state as a Texas as the
people are really amazing there and then you have California.

(40:54):
I call it a you know state of a freedom
of you know, everybody is happy, you know, children of
the corner born there. San Francisco, we have you know,
demonstration during the time of the Vietnam and the list
goes on. So it's quite extreme. You have one side
against another. But then I'm thinking it's because of the migration.

(41:18):
And then if you follow these serial killers, most times
they don't stay in one state. They actually go from
one position to another, so that way they're not caught.
But I'm hoping this golden era or golden time of
the killing will stop as we're getting more technology, because
we do have more computers, we do have DNA, we

(41:41):
do have a criminal investigation teams are happening, and you know,
we lower the domestic violence and abuse because many of
these killers are happening to come from a darkness and
just continue in their way further on.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, you know, it's when when two when when the
year two thousand hit, Yeah, and of course they call it,
you know, that was pretty much the end of the
golden age for serial killers. The thing that you see

(42:18):
come into play, there's two things that you come that
you see come into play. Is the the advance and technology. Now,
the advancement and the advancing well, I guess really it's
just it's m you can put this under earth the

(42:38):
same tab, I guess. But the advances in technology helped
with the communication across the country between depart you know,
eight law enforcement agencies and department and also the DNA.
Those two, those two things right there combined really helped

(43:02):
put It didn't put a stop to, but it helped
put a damper on and catch all of these killers
that have been just out and about. I mean they
hadn't been caught. So many killers got caught in from
the year two thousand until about the year twenty ten
that were taking place back you know, from the nineteen

(43:22):
seventies all the way through Gary Ridgeway bt K. You know,
some of the most the Golden State Killer. Then recently,
I think the most recent one really is the Long
Island serial killer. All those we were caught because of

(43:50):
advancements in technology. Yes, something that we're going to have
to talk about is twenty first your twenty first century
SERI killers, Yes, and the way they've changed the way
they do things to get around the advancements in technology

(44:10):
so when as technology advances, so the cunning of the killers. Yes,
so I think that's gonna be an interesting topic that
we need to talk about.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Too, because now you know, it's very hard to do
a crime and not to do the time or not
to be punished. Because as much as you know, sometimes
we do hate technology, there's also a wonderful part of
it where some of these abusers, domestic abusers, you know,
serial killers, rapists, et cetera, and criminals will be charged

(44:48):
for the you know, basically crimes that they did before.
It was really like you take the jack the ripper
at that time, and it was really much easier to
hide and you know, basically the evidence and go away.
Do all these murders Today, with the special crime and investigation,
you know, with pathology, medical science and everything, they're capable

(45:08):
to figure out which way this person was killed with
DNA of course, we'll figure out with the computerized tracking system.
Because whoever ladies and gentlemen enters the jail, they are fingerprinted.
As they're being fingerprinted, this has been recorded inside of
the data, and there's a national data, there's international data,

(45:29):
so it doesn't matter if they're coming from somewhere else
in the world or from Canada, States, UK or whatever.
As they're trying to figure out these fingerprints, they're capable
of figuring out who actually was capable of doing that crime.
So they will of course do the state search. Then
you know, they will go international search. So now that's

(45:50):
much much better. And you know, with the cameras, as
much as we hate them, sometimes you know, and the
big we say, the big brother is watching, sometimes we
can say this is quite pretty good because you are
actually getting you know, all recorded there on the camera,
even the car accidents, God forbid, you cannot hide it.

(46:11):
Everything is there. You know, if I tach somebody in
the mall, they'll see what I did. And so in
one way it is good because unfortunately, we also are
living in the era where there's many many people that
have issues with others. Issues maybe with somebody's appearance, issues

(46:32):
with somebody's beliefs, issues who is a man, who is
a woman. There's a lot of issues in the world
that's happening right now. Honestly, I don't know where we're
going with this, but I'm hoping that people will wake
up before it gets to late text, because you know,
doing a crime, you should pay a time. That's honestly,

(46:54):
I'm sorry. I always said, if you are raised enough,
really I said that even at the conference the other day.
I said, if you are raised in a really poor
environment and you go and steal a cookie, you steal
a pizza, maybe the pimp was somebody who you look
up to, because that's the area you've been raised on,

(47:15):
you know, around the prostitution. So this guy has a money,
has everything. So you know, I want to be like him.
I want to rule. Nobody will rule me. I go
in to look into economical way of raising up the person,
domestic abuse and etc. But when you go appealing and
abusing a person because of your own sadistic, egoistic, narcissistic

(47:38):
or hedonistic beliefs, then really I don't feel sorry for you,
and I think you did a crime. You should do
the time if the corpor or punishment needs to be done,
and that's what judge and court, you know, the crown decides. Hey,
you know you choose it because nobody in this world
is allowed to take anybody's life, their own satisfaction and

(48:02):
you know, their own happiness. I think, you know, in
in twenty first century, we should really wake up and
go far away from disbelief. Litla Patty, Actually you are acting?
Where are you getting your info from? Of course? If
you actually so, I will just show you. Guys. So
I'm gonna I have some on my in my gotta

(48:23):
pad notes, but I think it's verif I show you.
So if you go on Wikipedia and I will just
show you. So you type famous killers United States, the
list will come out. Or if you go like this,
so I'll show you another one. So I don't show
you my notes. You can put basically typing like list

(48:48):
of serial killers, so it will tell you exactly the
original details. Nothing that if you know hocus pocus or
somebody making up for the stuff, and if you go there,
they're basically notable come out. So these are the original
notes that are coming, you know, legendment notes that are
coming from UH law and authorities that share it here
on the internet.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
I uh, yeah, and I came across some some I
was just you know, do a Google search, and yes, yes,
the Newsweek's got some Newsweek's got some good info out there. Also,
World Population Review has has some and World Atlas is

(49:33):
where I got is where I got my info.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
At Yeah, I go deep and then you know, as
the notes come out, I see for example, will say
go about news, it will say you know Washington Times
or something. I know those are uh, you know, the legimate,
the correct resources to go to. So when you're reading. Also,
ladies and gentlemen, be very careful. Lots of times things

(49:56):
on the internet that you'll find there's many people line
and making up the stuff. Me and text as a
free journalist are somebody you know who is here doing
the podcast and trying to stop this violence, abuse or
educate other people about it and be part of this,
you know, twenty first century change, fight for humanity, for people,

(50:17):
for protection of women, children and the family. Try always
our best to show you, you know, the legimate and
correct information. So we always try to give you the
best and correct information what's important. So no, my pleasure, Patty,
my pleasures. It's good to know.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yes, the World Atlas has got a really a really
cool map. It's a world it's a worldwide map, and
they've also got the statistics right next to it, very
easy to read, very very cut and dry. Yes, with

(50:56):
the serial killers by country, which is just fascinating. But
the thing about it is what you have to remember
is the good. The difference in the numbers between number
one and two are just good, just the breathtaking. But
a lot of that is because a lot of these

(51:20):
countries it's really hard to get information about this stuff, okay,
because they're not they don't have the freedom of information
that that, say, you know, the US has, So you
have to take that into into account when you look
at these numbers. I'm not defending the number one country

(51:43):
at all as much as i'd like to, and I
want to tell you who it is, but real quick,
I'll run it down for you. Poland's credit.

Speaker 5 (51:53):
Yes, so putting that because if you take China texts yeah,
or Korea they won't have corrected it's s because we
don't know because of their system.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
So this list is the serial killers that have been
produced the countries. How many serial killers has each country produced? Okay,
where they're how many? You know where they're from. So
it's just the top. It's fifteen. Poland has twenty nine,

(52:31):
Brazil has thirty six, Mexico has forty three, China has
sixty four, France has seventy four, Australia with eighty three,
Germany with eighty eight, Italy with ninety seven, Canada with
one hundred and nineteen, India with one hundred and twenty one.
South Africa has is setting at one hundred and twenty three,
Japan's out there with one thirty seven, the UK is

(52:55):
one hundred and ninety, Russia is one hundred and ninety six,
and the US sits on top up of the mountain
with three thousand, six hundred and fifteen. So I mean,
that's just I know Mexican to take for existence. Mexico

(53:21):
with forty three reported serial killers. Okay, folks, you can
just look at the news with the cartel killings. Okay.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
I was getting my texts my mom when she heard that.
You guys, Now she's getting more into social media, so
she's getting more open. She's sitting here and she's listening.
She goes like, just this September, there was a child,
two boys in Belgrade that killed twenty people in the

(53:52):
school in less than two hours. That wasn't even ever
reported so because of course the politics, But that's in
two hours, you killed twenty children. There was only two
teachers killed and the eighteen. Like I'm not saying only
God forbid, but I'm saying the rest of the victims
were minor and he's only fourteen. Fourteen twenty kids killed

(54:15):
in an hour like that. And they said, text, you,
I know you know the weapons, and you are a person,
you know with your background and a fire fighting and everything,
you are really educated. And they said, the way he
shot and hold the gun, it's somebody who was so precise,
like you had a you know, somebody who's trained in
a military FBI agent. They go like, who did train

(54:38):
this kid to kill the kids like that? And he
said to the psychologist when they did an interview, he said,
I was watching it like two days ago. He said,
I feel sorry I didn't kill more. That's what was
exactly told from his mouth to psychiatrist in the hospital.
They said that he'll probably never be released. They cannot
execute him because he's only fourteen. But like what you're saying,

(55:01):
it's totally correct because many countries will keep this hush
hush because we don't know the truth actually behind it.
It's not possible that fourteen year all can kill twenty
people and nobody knows nothing about it. Where did he
get the weapons? Where how did he learn to shoot? Yeah,
and his papa was a doctor of radiology, so x ray.

(55:22):
And the mother was teacher in something, so he comes
in a university. So they come from a very educated family.
This is not like a you know, a cheap family
coming from a poor So, like you're saying, to defend
really the top country in the world, many people are
I should say, the report is not accurate. Yes, every

(55:45):
day there's a list of people being killed and harassed
and abused.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Yeah, it's amazing to me, the whole, the whole, the number.
You know, you went from you know, a couple of
hundred to over you know, three thousand. Yeah, And like
I said, you take Mexico and just look at the

(56:11):
cartel killings and everything that we hear about them, you know,
throughout the news. Look at Columbia, you know Colombia, I
mean you get down in those jungles and everything. These
serial killers and and well again with the cartels. These
serial killers, a lot of them are working for the cartels.
That's how they're they're flying their trade. You know, they

(56:33):
can go out and do their their stuff and and
make money want they do it, you know, but they
don't get listed as serial killers because very few of
them ever get caught and and zero down to this
is who he killed and everything. Brutality of these killings.
Also that you run across these uh, the cicarios that

(56:59):
we hear about, you know, even the coyoties.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
I mean there's that thirteen game thirteen or whatever I
forgot I watched it once. One that they have a tattoo.
And you know, do you know text that many of
Canadians don't go to Mexico. We are actually worn by
our Canadian government, uh not to go to Mexico because
many of Canadians are attack killed and brutally you know,

(57:28):
abused in Mexico. They actually think not to be disrespectful.
Maybe that money grows here on trees. And you will
see many of our tourists and when you open our
traveling agency, they'll say the first one is always Mexico.
Watch out where you go, stay in resort, you know,
if you go come in like our last woman, like
two of them were, like you said, kidnapped by the cartel.

(57:50):
They were abused the rate one survived, the other one
nobody knows where the body is. So the cartel have
a horrible way of serial killing, abuse and also so
brutalizing the victim. So uh, it's like you're seeing very
sadistic way of killing and killing the people because it's
an organized crime, right, and.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
A lot of you know, a lot of I won't.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
I won't.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
I have no inkling what. I don't have a desire
all to go to Mexico anymore. I used to. Okay,
there's a lot of places down there that I would
really like to see. I'd really like to do when
you get there. There are some beautiful places, but I
just don't think it's worth the risk because you know,

(58:40):
you you see all these cruises and everything going to
Mexico and stopping in these in these these ports and everything.
What they tell you is if you go to a resort,
do not go outside the resort.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Yes, the reason for that is, and this is not
really talked about a whole lot, but what these resorts do,
and it's hey, Wendy, is they pay off the cartels.
They pay off the cartels, basically a safe zone that

(59:15):
they're they're they're there, they will not mess with you in,
but you get out of that zone. That's why they
tell you do not leave the resort grounds because you
all bets are off. You know, you're you're, you're you're
you're an open target if you get out of the
protection zone for what they paid for.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Now I learned something today. I didn't know that. I'm
going to actually share this with everybody. Thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Yeah, that's what that's that's I mean, it's a dirty
little secret that you're not going to have them admit to.
Oh yeah, you know, these these big resort companies and
these these cruise lines and everything. They're not going to say, oh, well,
we pay off the cartel.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Mm hm.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
You know, and that's held a lot of their security forces,
a lot of the military down there. They're all part
of the cartel.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Yes, that's quite scary. And you know when you watch,
when you watch, you know, the tourists agencies they always saying.
But sometimes I was wondering, why, you know, you cannot
step out. I would in the United States. Of course,
here in Canada you have scary places you don't want
to go. There's no country in this world that doesn't
have a bad area. I travel. I came as a

(01:00:30):
single woman there you know, you waited for me, but
the rest of the crew in the States, I went
to Florida, too, But I said, I've been all around.
I've been to Chicago, I've been to Colorado. You know,
nobody ever approached me in a horrible way. And I
had a jacket that the said Canada, and I said,
to even my family, I feel pretty safe because it's
just like I'm feeling here. But if you tell me

(01:00:52):
to travel to Mexico and you're telling me I cannot
leave the cruise because if I leave the cruise, I
may be raped killer. People may think I have a
million dollars and now they'll ask my mother give me
half a million dollar. I don't know where women will
get half a million of the dollars to pay for
my you know, release, and if you don't, they will

(01:01:13):
pack you in basically these little pieces and send you
back to the family. So like you're saying, we have
a huge issue there because the cartels are really organized crime,
and many of them, you have a huge mental issues.
They're horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Yeah. Well, and Julie, Julie says, she states, in Chaces,
I have to say that the resort we stayed at
kept very close tabs on where we went. And there's a.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Reason, yes, yes, and that's that's see you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Don't walk around by yourself, you don't, you know, you
go in groups and you stay where the resort tells
you to stay because they're trying to keep you safe.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
And then they start fighting with themselves. Did you see that?
To see an end? The other day? And then I
was like, how did they enter the resorts now? And
they were showing they're entering the resorts and picking up
some tourists when they had that fight when one of
the sons of the cartels was killed and he was
getting really angry about it. So I respect, Julie what

(01:02:17):
you're saying, you know, always stay close. I don't know,
maybe it's me just being very overprotective. I don't like
taking my family somewhere where I know that they're not safe.
And I respect a textas And my heart goes down
to you when you're saying why why should I go there?
If I go to Texas and I know, for example,

(01:02:38):
I'm sitting there and I'm joining, you know, I'm respecting
the law. What's the big deal? Doesn't matter? New York
boast on Chicago, doesn't matter. You come to Canada, to
Toronto to PC, you know, but just because I want
to explore and end up being you know, violated, killed
or whatever, and worse my family. I don't want to

(01:02:58):
pay money for my had to be in a bucket.
That's how I look at it. But many people and
I learned something today, Like you're saying, they paid the money,
so they are not the top. Wow, that's quite interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Well, you know, and I've got a I've got a
buddy of mine. He went down and he's from Mexico.
It's Priam family from Mexico. And he went down for
a uh and I never can say this word. And
I'm sorry, folks, but you know, you know me well
enough to understand that I get my it teeth wrapped around,

(01:03:33):
my tongue wrapped arounder. So I can't even say that
my tongue wrapped around my I teeth And I can't
see what I'm saying half the time. But he went
down there for a concert uh sixteenth birthday party for
one of his nieces, Concilo.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
I can't there's concealing, there's Costello. There's two of them,
so maybe one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Yeah, so anyway, yeah, but anyway, and they were in
the backyard having the party and he had driven his
tahoe down there and everything, and two or three guys,
I can't remember how many. There were. Two or three
guys walked in the backyard carrying carrying weapons and shot

(01:04:16):
a couple of rounds up in the air to get
everybody's attention. They said, who's driving the black tahoe and
he said, he said, I am, you know, and he goes,
they go, give me the keys, and he was kind
of like what he goes, they said, give me the keys.
Are we going to kill everybody here?

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Oh? Lord?

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
So he gave them the keys exactly because they literally
would have killed everybody at the party and then just
fished out the keys. But they took the keys and
they left exactly, you know, because they they get they've
got his his his, you know, his vehicle, clean plates,

(01:05:02):
packing full of drugs, running back across the border. But
that works.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
The entire the entire country there, like Mexico, Like Mexico itself,
it's very corrupted, you know. When we look, the population
is very poor and educated. Everybody is gonna cut everybody's throat.
I'm sorry to say it for survival. So of course,
for them seeing a brand new truck, you know, it
doesn't matter, you know, I would give them. They say,

(01:05:31):
give me your kidney, everybody will live. I'll say, okay,
I will give you my kidney if you're not touching
my family. That's the way it goes, you know. So
I respect what he did, but for them, I also
feel the United States of America really needs to do
something about that border, you know, being I came as
a landed immigrant. I am proud European Canadian. I have

(01:05:52):
Canadian citizenship. But we need to come legally to any country.
You need to go through the process to come to
the country. You know that they see what you're going
to do, what you can offer, no problem. I don't
have a problem with that. But I do have a
problem with we do have a problem with immigration coming
back and forth. And like you're saying, smuggling the drugs,

(01:06:13):
and there's a lots out there, smuggling of prostitution, you know,
illegal trafficking on the children and the people. It's just crazy,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
And we talk a lot about human trafficking and all
that kind of stuff, and but what hey, Jackie, so
but and when you talk about human trafficking, what really
comes to mind, you know, is the sex trafficking. Yes,
that ain't all it is. You have labor trafficking also,

(01:06:43):
which is it's a huge business. You What they'll do
is they'll they'll charge these people exorbitant amounts and they'll
bring them across to the US or other places, but

(01:07:05):
mainly it's the US, and and they'll sneak them in
and under just horrendous conditions. A lot of times, you know,
there'll be they do it in groups of people that
having holds of ships. They'll have them in you know,
the beds of eighteen wheelers and closing there and they
packing there like sardines and I mean standing there on

(01:07:28):
filth the whole trip, that type of thing. They're dehydrated.
Some of them die when they get over here. When
they get over here, they're they're basically slave labor because
they had to pay off what you know, the price
of admission basically is what it is. You know. So
they go into they go into prostitution, they go into

(01:07:50):
you know, uh these I know, it used to be
real bad with the fruit pickers down around southern California
and that. Yeah, quite a few of the not my trip, Yeah,
there have been there have been you know, truck and
trailers tracking trailers pulled over and had twenty to thirty

(01:08:11):
people dead in there because they died from exposure. You know, look,
look there's no tail. And how many bodies are scattered
across the sands from here to Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Well, God knows, that's what I'm saying. Something. And you know,
when I was in Florida and just before the COVID,
I was in a clear water. I was in Tampa Bay,
so it was in a really nice, nice area and
it was very beautiful. I'm not gonna lie, but I
was surprised. Early in the morning, you know, as we
would leave to go grocery shopping or something. I turned

(01:08:49):
around and I see these very older people, you know,
and many of them were Asian and Mexican, on these
big trucks, and they were going towards to the work.
So I said, where are they going. They were like, oh, dandee,
mostly they're going to work. Some of them are older
than my mother. And I was like, these people are
being slaved. Like in my head, I was thinking about

(01:09:11):
they're coming to earn a piece of bread. I'm not
judging them at all, but God knows, they probably not
even work for a dollar, you know, picking up the oranges,
going on these big fields in Florida. But I felt
also like, wow, this is so sad. But like you
can say, in the labor trafficking, I saw it with
my own eyes. I'm not saying some of them, you know,

(01:09:31):
are illegal, but to me it was a little bit
concerning to see older generation, not that younger or middle
aged men and women. These are older people sitting on
this truck and going to these big farms to work on,
you know, all these orange fields or great fields or
whatever they have down there in Florida. I was looking

(01:09:53):
at it. I'm like, this is quite scary. And then
of course when you enter the clear water, you have
you know, all these beautiful houses, the homes, you know,
and you go like wow, what a shock. But like
you're saying, and so I'm thinking, you know, trafficking of
the people and the border, especially when you're talking about
the cartel. You know, it's it's in part of being

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like us here and the infamous minds trying to advocate
for the people. I really hope whoever comes to the
the the president of the United States and this coming
new four years, will pay attention to it, you know,
because like you're saying, there's so much smuggling of drugs, heroine,
you know, and many of them, I'm sorry to say this,

(01:10:39):
I even see them. Then they turn because they're illegal,
they cannot work a legal work. They enter again these
cartels in the States, they start smuggling the drugs, the
heroine and whatever, or some of them come and do
the massive murders because you know, they have mental illness
or anger, anger, huge anger. So I hope whoever gets

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that it will pay attention to these borders because what
you mentioned was really really important. You know that these
cartels needs to be taken care of.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Yeah, So if you all are going to do, if
you all are going to do some you know, traveling
and stuff like that, just if pay attention and you know,
do what your travel agents are are. You know, they
direct you to do, and you know you try to
say stay little paces. I picked apples for living for
a while in Ohio. A lot of Mexican they're picked.

(01:11:32):
Lot of Mexicans picking there too. I was surprised. Yeah.
And the thing about it is a lot of times
if you if you see him poddling in the middle
of the one truck to go home, a lot of
these people live in the same house. They'll get twenty
to thirty people live in the same house.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
Yes, yes, and it's quite like I was saying, you know,
to me, going to Canada or to America, you know,
I feel really safe. You know, we are ninety nine
percent the same people. We have the same stores, we
you know, flying the same planes. You know, if you
it's pretty good. But like you're saying, the Mexico, Columbia, Argentina,

(01:12:14):
and you know, Venezuela, and they go further into Latin America,
I really wouldn't feel safe going, especially let's say, traveling
as a single woman with my sister or with the child.
God forbid, I really wouldn't feel safe going there, and
I would feel like targeted.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Yes, yes, it's and it's sad too, because you know,
Mexico gets a bad wrap, and you know, most of
the people down there are absolutely beautiful people exactly that
aren't involved with all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
And they're victims too.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Yes, exactly exactly. They're held hostage in their own country.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
They have to pay recketeering, they have to do all
different kinds of things so they can survive. So many
of them, you know, I love what Roger Brailey is saying.
That's exactly my words. Those that come into country I
legally makes it hard for those who do legally. So
then it's a fight between these ones that do all
the illegal businesses the one that come legally and try

(01:13:21):
to be a positive members of society. Because it's all
covered under one black cloud. Then they go like, Okay,
I'm gonna judge you, just like I judge this one
because they're gonna do the same thing that this one did.
Because we are humans, we do that. And you know,
and I watched and that's another thing text when I
was in Florida, so I wanted to see that. Really

(01:13:44):
the area that is showing the immigrants where the Mexicans,
while you leave the normal population where they enter their area,
they already had floods, they destroy the grassy and it's
almost like you are making and bringing all that else
into that area. And I was like, this is so sad.

(01:14:04):
I'm like and go like, yeah, we keep them there
because we don't want them to come, you know, and
ruin this other part. But they also not respecting the
rules all regulation that for example, United States is giving them.
So you know, if I come to United States, and
then it's Daniel is going to work as a nurse.
No problem, this is the law. This is what I

(01:14:25):
need to do. I need to pay my bills, I
need to be a good member of society. I can
make friends. Not everybody will like me, Not I will
like every that's a normal. But for them, for them,
they always And when I was driving there, I turned
around and I was looking. I was like, why they
have all the flags? Why are they're destroying? But they

(01:14:45):
kept there because they don't want them to destroy the
other parts. So most like you're saying, the people don't
step out there because those are the cartels. Those are
the people that smuggle the drugs, do prostitution and things
like that. So question text, this is for you. You are
true American. So I'm going to ask, can anyone explain

(01:15:07):
why this president open up the border. I can't think
of anything why that's beneficial for us. Bendy, my mother
has the same question. She's sitting here and listening.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Okay. What gets me is if you look at pretty
much every country on the earth, they have active, active borders.
They don't have open borders. For some reason, we have

(01:15:44):
taken offense to now I will say this, and this
all being said, I'm gonna go I go right back
to where something else is going to kind of explain it.
Maybe I don't thing I've come up with we have.
There's there's people that take offense to to not align

(01:16:05):
people in our country. And I don't Okay, I don't
have a problem people come to the country. I just
wanted to do it legally. I want to do it right.
Part of the problem down south anyway, is we go
right back to poverty, we go right back to the cartel,

(01:16:26):
we go, you know, the smuggling, the trafficking, everything that
maybe these people can't pay what they need to to
go through all the legitimate avenues. Okay, so they take

(01:16:47):
they they do what they can. They're trying. A lot
of them are just trying to get over here and
make a living. They're doing jobs that we don't want
to do. Folks. Let's just be honest, and they're just
trying to get over here and make a living. I don't.
I can't tell you how many you know, Mexican folks
I've met over the years being in construction and everything. Yes,

(01:17:11):
are doing nothing, but over here they live you know,
multiple people to a house. A lot of it is
just they're all guys. They're living in the same house,
but they live on very little and they send all
their money back to Mexico for their family exactly, and

(01:17:32):
hopes and hopes that they can pay to have their
family come over here. You know. I worked with a
young lady that she came over here from from Mexico.
She did it right, and actually I think it was
two years ago got her citizenship. I could not have

(01:17:54):
been prouder of her. And she was so ecstatic, she
was so proud of herself. And that being said, that
being said, opening up the borders just you know, raising
the gates and come on, that's the wrong way to
do it. That's the wrong We have to have some

(01:18:15):
type of regulation. But if you go back to you know, okay,
best way I can describe this is what it says

(01:18:35):
on the Statue of Liberty.

Speaker 6 (01:18:39):
Yes, and this is what this is what it says.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
One of the lines is give me you're tired, Give
me your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Okay, so here's the whole thing. Give me you're tired,
you're poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free, the
wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these homeless tempests

(01:19:20):
tossed to me. I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
Oh okay, that is part of what it says on on.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
Yes, yes, and.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
That's how America got to where it's at. Yes we
are we honestly, we are a country of refugees.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Yes, that's true. America is built by immigrants from all
around the world, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Yes, you know, so it saddens me to in a
certain way. It saddens me to to have to have
closed borders. You know that we can't just open our
arms and accept everybody. Unfortunately we can't. And in having

(01:20:15):
that regulation you create other issues. There's not a fix
to the problem, folks, there's not closed borders. Open borders
doesn't matter. It's not going to fix the problem. The
best thing we can do is is, you know, do
our best to secure our borders because there's a lot

(01:20:36):
of people that come over that don't have you know,
they don't want They're not coming over for you know,
the milk and honey aspect of it. You know, they
want the milk and honey, but they want to take
advantage of the situation and so many fake documents and
everything that get people over. But there is no fix

(01:20:56):
to it. We need to secure our borders because the
drug trafficking.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
Is horrible, horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
You know, you've got you've got tunnels that go for Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
You know, to overhear true, I saw it on the TV.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
You know, they're not as prevalent as everybody would think.
But you know, as far as the you know, sneaking
across the border and everything, A lot of times you pay,
however much it is for person, they give you a
gallon jug of water and lead you out in the desert.

(01:21:33):
You know, a lot of people don't make it. No,
they don't a lot of the coyotes don't even make it.
And they make these trips time and time and time
and time again.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
And that's what you know, text, you said something very important,
if I can say, like outsider watching from outside, right,
I think like as we were mentioning these serial killers,
as you're mentioning the cartels, as you're mentioning the human trafficking,
you know, children trafficking doesn't matter in every way. Trafficking
of the human being is wrong. If you have the

(01:22:05):
borders crossed, at least you have some control, That's how
I look at But when you have the borders open,
that means you know, anybody or anyone can enter. So
you're also putting your own civilians, your own population to
the risk of many, you know, different problems that will come,

(01:22:25):
you know, increase for example of the drugs and alcohol,
increase of prostitution, trafficking, and et cetera. Then you have
vulnerable population in your own country. Every country has it
that maybe will follow into that wrong path and go
even deeper into the trouble than they are. So I
don't think you know, as much as sometimes you want

(01:22:46):
to be a hero to save the entire world from
hero will turn into the zero. That's how I look
at it, because you cannot put entire population to you know,
a risk factor. It's the same that now go like, okay,
everybody in jail right now, they are recuperated, they're good,
you know, we'll open them. Okay, we're fine, let's forget

(01:23:06):
what they did and it's okay. No, they need recovery,
they need a control, they need some discipline, I'm sorry
to say it, and support, mental, physical, financial, and guidance
from all these specialists that tomorrow can fit into the society.
And then you know what, text is a big issue.
You have a clashing of different populations. Most of the

(01:23:29):
Americans live, and I'm talking about normal America, not talking
about the people that have billions of the dollars millions.
I'm talking about the standard American that owns or a
rental home, you know, apartment, it doesn't matter, have a car.
I'm talking about normal human being here that lives a
normal life. You know, you are actually now destroying them

(01:23:52):
because you are there becoming more vulnerable and exposed to
these criminal effects that can destroy your own population. As
much as you know, I mean, I love America. You
guys know that. You know I always, as a child
dream about America. John Wrayney is still my favorite actor,
and it goes be till the day I die. I
love him. You know, it's the way we must understand.

(01:24:14):
Protecting the border is also protecting the innocence.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
The problem I want, it's not the problem, but another
problem is I mean, when you start talking about this,
you can leads down the path to gun control. Yes,
the whole and all this kind of stuff. And I
own my guns. I like to I enjoy shooting. I

(01:24:41):
enjoy I used to a lot, you know that type
of thing, and I just enjoy shooting. I enjoy long
distance shooting.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
You know, I happen to have a gift and I
just enjoy it. But a lot of people talk about
all we you know, we don't need, you know, gun control,
gun control. I think part of the problem is that
maybe people and I don't understand this. They're they're never

(01:25:14):
going to take away our rights to own guns because
there's too many of us in the states that own
guns already.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Yes, you try to stormtrooper your way into Texas and
take all the guns, you're gonna have a fighter. Luck,
it ain't gonna happen. Folks, just ain't gonna happen. M
But stricter gun control. I'm forced to a point because

(01:25:48):
if you have somebody that has a history of violence,
has a history of mental illness, you really want that
person to have a gun.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
Exactly exactly, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Riley, I'm going to touch on here in.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
A minute that I want to say something there to
a really good this was fantastic comment.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Yes, and we normally don't talk politics on this show.
And well it did, and and.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
I understand why, because it is connected, it's intervened, it's
very connected. When it comes to.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
And I don't think I've ever said this publicly, but
I will tell you right now, I am not Democrat.
I am not Republican.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Okay, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
I'm not either one. When it comes to voting, I'm
gonna make I'm gonna trust my gut, and that's what
I'm going to go with.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
And that's your choice. That's your that's there you enjoy, right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
Unfortunately, my feeling is in the last oh man, a
lot a lot of years, we haven't we really haven't
had the choice of choosing exactly the best candidate for
the job. Yes, it's choosing the lesser of two evils.

(01:27:15):
That's what we've been voting for. Honestly, that's that's my
you know, because I don't like either one of the
candidates that that are running, and they have ran in
the last several years. Don't like I'm not a Trump fan,
not not because of what he his his his politics.
I don't like him as a person. I don't like

(01:27:37):
him as a man, never.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Have That's true. And well, God, yes, that's true. That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
But that being said, I wasn't. I'm not a Biden fan.
I'm not a Commanda fan, you know. I mean, so
what do you do? What do you do? You have
to you know, if you if you vote, you know
you that is your right to choose. That is a

(01:28:09):
gift that not everybody, not everybody on this planet has
the right to vote. Okay. I do think the electoral
college is Atlanta antiquated, useless thing because something that a
lot of people don't don't know. And the electoral college,

(01:28:32):
the basis of this is that you have everybody in
this in this in this precinct vote and your representative
is supposed to go and vote and cast his electoral
college vote the way his constituents, the majority of them

(01:28:54):
cast their vote. Okay, So if the majority of people
voted blue or red matter, that's how he's supposed to
that's how he should cast his vote in electoral college.
The problem is, one of the problems is that in
certain states that's not what they have to do. They

(01:29:15):
can have you know, most of their say say say
most of their constituents vote red, and they go up
to cast their vote to elect car Electoral College. Some
of those representatives can say, you know what I know
better than all these millions of people. We're not voting

(01:29:37):
red this year. We're gonna vote blue. And in some
states that's legal. Why why why are we if that's
the case, why are we even have why are we
even able to vote? So see Jackie Awson's text, you
wait to see, if you wait to see, if with

(01:29:59):
all these illegals coming in from everywhere and from every country,
the problems with the missing and a law doesn't get worse.
And I absolutely agree, absolutely, I agree to you. There's
no we have to have checks and balances, folks.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
It's too much, too much, you know texts. I'm going
to add the.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Problem way too broken, way too broken.

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
Yes, you know, the regarding something. I'm going to add something.
And this is coming from somebody, you guys, who actually
came as a landed immigrant. And I'm Canadian citizen now,
so I'm really allowed to say this because you should
come legally. You should. We got you know, uh text,

(01:30:45):
You're gonna be shocked. I was only fourteen. My sister
she is six years younger than me. So basically what happened,
we would go my mother and my father went for
the entire medical checkup. They went for the interview in
Canadian embassy. They actually show their level of the education,
you know, And that's how we came. And I and

(01:31:09):
my sister also had a physical exam that we're not
bringing any illnesses and everything, and then we came to Canada.
We went straight to the school, My father went to work,
my mother, everybody, so we were all supporting as a
you know, a normal basically community members. So that's what
I'm saying. If I can go through it, you know

(01:31:30):
why you can't. That's what I'm saying. You know it,
applied for it, and you go for it, just like
everybody else. But the one thing now, as a Canadian,
I must say, I'm also very angry. So Riley, I'm
gonna share something for you. That Zelensky that's coming from
Ukraine comes here to Canada pickups the money just like

(01:31:52):
he pickups from United States of America whenever he enters
the United Nations. They gave him so much money while
we here, I'm gonna say this publicly. We need the
money for hospitals, we need the money for our homeless people.
We need a you know, to look after. You know,
people that are homeless on the shelters. Prices are raising up,

(01:32:15):
pensions are really small. I know, maybe you guys don't know,
but your standard American standard is much stronger than Canadian one.
And of course your guys dollar is stronger than ours.
It's very rarely that your dollar is the same like
our dollar. So if you guys are feeling that, so
imagine how we are feeling it too. I'm not saying

(01:32:35):
that we shouldn't help, but we should also look our
own homeless people, our hospitals, our shelters, the Red Cross.
We had the other day when we had issues in
a jasper. We gave so much money to Craine. Nobody
came out. There was a local people, including myself and
I'm not a multi millionaire. Everybody was collecting bottles like

(01:32:56):
an empty water bottles or whatever, take them the home
depot and then basically the money would go to build
the Jasper. What is the apple eye, you know, a
jewel of the entire Canada. I'm very proud of the Jasper.
Nobody came, you know, Justin Trudeau never even landed inside
of the Jasper, and he calls us red next because

(01:33:17):
we are very similar to Texas, Alabama, Luisiana, and he
calls us red next because we are more family oriented,
for example, than Ontario or British Columbia, especially Ontario. So
Ontario would be more like. So when you're saying that
it's the same with Israel, we're give him so much
fighting against the Hamas and whatever, and I say we

(01:33:38):
should stop terrorists. I'm not God forbid all of that
needs to be I gonna say, honestly cleaned out to
the bottom, because since two thousand and September eleventh, the
world is not the same. But we need to also
look our own people and our own needs. We have
so many things in our own construction.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
Of the Honestly, you have to clean up your own
You have to clean up your own backyard before you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
Go exactly exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
We're not doing that. I mean, but folks, this is
We've never taken a show down this route before, but
it was interesting. I've never I don't think i've ever
spoken on you know, the way I think and everything.
And I'm but what I'm a vet. Okay, So my

(01:34:36):
my dad, my dad, my my uncle's were vets. Okay,
my father in law was a vet. I mean my nephew.
We have we're we have a long history in my
family for military service. So and I'm going to tell
you right now, if you're gonna come at me and
tell me I'm wrong, and I don't need to do this.

(01:34:57):
I don't need to do whatever the hell I want
and say what to tell I want. I have relatives
that fight and die for that right. For that right,
you know, you can stand up Neil, whatever game you want. Why.
I may not agree with it, but I served it
for you to have that right, and you can. You

(01:35:18):
can vote red, blue, yellow, purple. I don't care why,
because there's a lot of us that serve to give
you that right, so you could have it. So before
you jump on me and tell me, you know how
I'm not, how I'm not you know right, or how
I'm wrong in this view, that's fine. That's your opinion,

(01:35:38):
you know what. And I'm allowed to mind too. So
that's just it. You can state your opinion, you can
state all you want, just be civil about it. That's
all I care. That's all. I can have a conversation
with somebody about politics all day long. But I guarantee
you most people can't have a conversation about politics with
me because they end up getting defensive and it turns

(01:36:00):
in they want to they want to argue, they don't
want to talk. Okay, I don't have a problem with
talking about things because I think people should be able
to believe what they hell they want. Why because I
serve to give you that right and so many others
died to give you this, sir, that that right. So
put that ring. Your partner spoke it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
I love it. I love it. I must say this
was quite a different show. We went a little bit
over time. Ladies and gentlemen. Uh and people. Amen. Everybody's saying, ah,
you know, we love you guys, and you know, Text,
I want to say thank you for your service, and
to everybody, everybody in the chat, thank you for a

(01:36:41):
beautiful comments, being respectful to each other. It doesn't matter
red or blue, as long as we get something that
is going to serve better America. I'm going to tell
you something now, Text, I'm going to be very vocal
in public whatever happens in America. Your sister, big sister
Canada follows. We are very very connected, so we are

(01:37:04):
affected whatever is happening in your country because we are
almost like Kwan. I understand if we have open borders,
I'm going to be honest to you, even if I
don't agree with that, because I think, you know, criminals
will then go back and forth. Not a good people,
you know. But that's why I think, you know, we
are very affected. Canadians watch this election very closely. Do

(01:37:24):
we need changes in our own country? Yes we do.
I'm going to tell you that openly. I hope we
get somebody better than justin to do because this country
is going wrong path, you know, right now, and we
are giving money to whatever and we are not cleaning
like you're saying, our own backyard. And I want to

(01:37:46):
say you guys were quite amazing, you know, supporting us
and discussing this very important topic. Yes, we went from
serial killers all around the world to the voting, but
that's what this show is all about. Thank you again
and for you know supporting us. Texts you are back
tonight right at the seven? Yeah, text will be back

(01:38:08):
at seven. I'm here, No, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
I'm back, You're back at seven. I'm back at eight.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
Oh yeah, I'm saying my time, you're saying your time. Yeah, yeah,
So six pm Mountain time seven times seven pm. Yo, guys,
time on the on the Great South. So we will
be here. I'll be here with Donny Chow. Text will
be there with Text crew, So please join us. We
have more to chat, more to explore, and again, wonderful show.

(01:38:39):
You never know. Text. Maybe you and I we should
vote and be part of the Senate. Maybe the world
would be better.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
You know. I want to I want to talk about
the show that we're gonna have tonight real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
We've got It's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Very interesting, it's gonna be very controversial. We're having a
gym on on the and I hope you don't take
offense to this the way I'm going to say it.
He claims to be basically a big Foot and dog
man hip man. He's been taking out he's been taking
out problem Bigfoot and problem dog Man across the country

(01:39:16):
for ranchers, slash government, whatever you want to go. But
it's gonna be a very interesting show. He's a very
articulate man, and uh so he wants to get a
story out there and for reasons that that he will
tell you. Okay, so you do not want to miss
that show tonight coming up I'm fixing the post and

(01:39:38):
fixing to put the thumbnail on it and everything. So
you'all be sure when you hit that shared out because
it's gonna be a very interesting show. And yeah, we're
gonna and like I said, it's gonna be very controversial.
That subject always is. So anyway, what are you doing tonight?

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
For governor of me? Look at this Danielle? For United States?
It's president. If I come, they'll shoot me in two
minutes because I would change the system entitled, so I
would go for people people's parts. You know. Actually, I'm
gonna be honest to you. A couple of my brothers
last year, they were saying to me, you know, they

(01:40:17):
would suppose on me that I should be a major
of Edmonton, And I said, I'm not a politician. I'm
I'm a person who loves people and I probably would
clash with everybody. As much as the support sounded great,
I also believe, you know, inequality. I believe in humanity
and respect and love between people. That it's very rare,

(01:40:40):
but it does exist, at least in my heart. So
that's how I look at it. But it will be yeah,
and everybody world, big Foot Central Sunday in my channel.
I got Bigfoot at the show Captain Jack Sparrow. So
this is the Duke. Grand Duke will be there be
having amazing shows you guys. Next Sunday I'll be like
on my channel. Me and Text will be back live

(01:41:03):
on Infamous Minds. And tonight me and Donnie Chow are
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you and I will should make a party. My mom
will be president there. Will go with your wife, you know,
be a secretary. Two of them can get along. I
think it will be awesome.

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