January 21, 2025 • 65 mins
Danielle and Tex explore the rituals, trophy collecting and background triggers of serial killers.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
There is a darkness that drives the devils of our
own humanity, joined Danielle in text as they explore these
infamous minds. Good afternoon, everybody. How are we doing?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon, United States of America. I'm doing
really well. I am. I must say I'm off today.
I'm usually working. I did work really late last night
on some files. I did listen to you and adjacent.
I must say, if you guys miss that show, please watch.
(01:00):
It was quite amazing. And I had a show with
doctor Dennis Carroll, so that was quite interesting. We talk
about the Bible and everything. So we have a second
part coming on next week. And then this morning I
got up and I was watching the intigration of the
(01:21):
forty seventh President of the United States, so on behalf
of the Canadians and my family. I want to say congratulations,
and I hope you know that you guys have a
much better new year, better lives. Hopefully you know the
voice of people will be heard and everything will be
(01:41):
better because we need a change here too. What's going
to happen here, God knows. So that's what I what
I can tell you, because here, when it comes to politics,
we are lost, Justin is gone. I'm not a politician.
You and I cheat you a little bit before this
guarded and we need we need a fresh start, somebody
(02:05):
who will be like mister Harper, that will bring our beauty,
our you know, autonomy, our country back like it was before.
So hopefully somebody, somebody.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Will you know, show up, you know, real quick. We've
got a lot of new listeners. I can see them,
so I want to kind of introduce us so they
know what they're getting. In wound. We talk about this
kind of stuff. Ladies Furst, I'll allow you to give
your background and then everything and then I'll then I'll go.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
But Lady Spurs, thank you very much. Text is always
a gentleman. So my background, I am Canadian in European background.
I came to Canada when I was fourteen years old.
I'm proud to be Canadian. I am. My background is
in a medical field in the nursing and UH wellness
(03:06):
and assessment, clinical assessment and behavioral interventionist specialist. I'm a writer,
I'm a mom, I'm a daughter. I do work and
do the teachings all around and presentation when it's coming
to against the violence and abuse uh, and the families
(03:28):
and domestic violence and abuse uh. And also as my
as my background, I do believe, and beauty of our
natural healing, I do believe. And also in hope, faith
and uh prayer. My background goes very very deep to
(03:51):
basically to the Count of Transylvania and the English Empires.
So I go really back for more than I can
say seventeen hundred years if you go back with my
ancest ancestry line, and basically I am trying my hardest.
(04:14):
Now two books are finished. One book is actually a
book that is written by me and mister Text and
it's called Informous Minds Serial Killer's Volume one, So it's
already given, but I'm so happy that will be there
when we are there doing our conference. And the second
(04:35):
book is actually talking about my great great uncle who
marry my mom's you can say great grade auntie and
that's a count of blood. That cool. So for you guys,
this is a Hollywood story. For me, this is a
way to worship somebody who was a national hero and
(04:57):
the night templar, So that's what I'm excited about.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And the Duchess is not just a made up title.
She is an actual duchess, that's what but you you uh,
and we we've got a great opportunity coming up in
Canada together. Yeah, and I don't know if we can
talk about that. Yeah, okay, okay, well you know more
(05:28):
about it than I do. I'm just, I'm just and
I ain't figured out why they want me. But I
understand why they want you, but I don't know why
they want me, uh, personally, as far as it goes
into the true crime and the psych psychology of what
makes these these people tick. And we don't just talk
(05:48):
about serial killers and everything. We go into colts, we
go into the missing cases, in saw cases, that type
of thing. We also but what we focus on and
don't we don't get into the groups some details and everything.
Sometimes you have to, but you know, just to get
the point across of what kind of monsters we're dealing with.
(06:11):
But what we really like to focus on is what
makes them tick, the victims and awareness. I think our
number one goal is try to break the circle of violence.
If I had to pick, if I had to pick
a goal for us, it's to help break that circle. Yeah,
(06:36):
but we this We got invited to speak at a
conference in Canada, and she just told me this the
other day and I'm still trying to get my mind
rapp around it. But this is not a this is
not a true crime conference. This is not a bigfoot conference.
(06:58):
It's not a paranormal conference. It's a conference. It's a
doctor's conference. Yes, we will be speaking on dealing with
trauma and the circle of violence and that type of thing.
I'm blown away. I don't know why they want my
(07:19):
opinion on this. You, I understand, and you kind of
downplayed your role in the whole mental health care You
you you have a very very important role at the
facility you work in. Yeah, and so so you get
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you get to see this and deal with this firsthand
with you know, mentally ill patients and stuff like that.
So the schizophrenia, the narcissism, that all that, you actually
deal with people that are like that. So that's where
we come from, and that's why we enjoyed doing this,
and that's why we it's kind of a passion of ours,
(08:10):
which it's kind of weird because that's not how we met.
We met Danielle was doing space that she was a
host on space Out Radio for a while and they
had me on their show to talk about Bigfoot. Yes,
(08:31):
and y'all have heard me talk about this here lately,
the whole time loss incident that I had and I
was on the show and I was and Danielle was
one of the hosts and I was talking to it,
and I just all I did was, yeah, I I
(08:55):
had a time loss incident. That's all I said. And
Danielle was like, whoa, whoa, whoa I brought there. Don't
say another thing? Can I? Can I please say something?
I just got something Because what you don't know about
Danielle she's also a psychic media Okay, she's also a
wreokie master. She's very she's uh, she kind of downplayed
(09:16):
her whole thing. And she the woman speaks poor languages.
I mean she she's.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But anyway, she says stop right there, she goes, do
you mind? And if I'm picking something up? Can I say?
And she told me and she didn't know anything about this.
She didn't know I had talked to I had it
remote viewed by Jessica Jones. She didn't know anything. She
told me the exact pretty much the exact same thing
(09:48):
that Jessica had told me when she was remote giveing it.
I don't want to get into that right now. I'll
get into it later on another show. But and I'm
I'm still dealing with that because I'm still and deny
about what happened. But you know whatever. So that's where
that's that's where all this comes from, our true Crime Stove.
(10:09):
And because we we we hit it off right from
the get go. Came, we became instant friends, and she's
like my little sister. Oh, well you know you are.
It was she came, she came down to Texas and
she went to the dog Man Conference with us, and
(10:31):
it was so funny because when we finally got together
at the airport because she was upstairs, I was downstairs,
but she comes prancing out and her climbing in my
fullwood drive truck was funny to watch.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Folks.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I'm just saying, she is she she's this lady. She's
got to put rocks in her pockets to keep from
blowing away in a stiff wind. So but so that's
where we come from. For all the new listeners and everything.
That's our background and this and that's why we do this.
(11:09):
It's a passion of ours. So with that being said,
we're going to talk about and you you i'd love
this topic and you brought this up.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
The rituals, triggers and the the trophies, the background, what
you know made what made yeah? So again, going with
ladies first, what would you like to touch on first?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well, I'll first explain in a very couple of simple words.
You know, a serial killer would be somebody who does
kill three or more victims. You know, when we think
about serial killers, you know there's no country that doesn't
have them. There's no you know that they say, oh,
because we are this religion, it doesn't exist in our country,
because you know we are, this color doesn't exist in
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our country. Our continent is better than yours, it doesn't exist.
Every country has the crime, and every country has the
serial killer of their own. Unfortunately, even if you're twenty
first century, you know this didn't disappear. Some of the
crimes are even bigger and bigger. What's kind of scary.
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So what I can tell you, you know, ladies and gentlemen,
when you open the TV, you know, in the morning,
turn on the different channels and you kind of scrolling down,
you see, oh, this one is killing because of this
this one. I must tell you that you know, serial
killers can kill because of the trill, So it's a
pleasure to kill. This is how they greed of their
revenge or you know, they enjoy killing. Hedonistic killer would
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be different than lust would be something that you have
a sexual killer or somebody who is using also you know,
trophies or for example female underwears, you know, lungerie and etc.
Then you have somebody who have like Aaron Berkovich who
was actually really a killer that was really psychotic because
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he was really mentally insane, comparing himself to a god.
Or if you have a David Karesh that they're talking
when there was that you know, whole fire between him
and total Fire squad that was quite crazy when there
was a general areno they're involved and many people died.
So all this is happening because people that are serial
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killers do have different motives to kill. It also depends
from the way they're upbringing. It depends if they have
any childhood trauma or sometimes I know it's going to
sound crazy, sometimes there's a genetical factor. Now it's proven
that people can't be born serial killers or from certain trauma.
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You know, they can turn and abuse. They can turn
to one that this justified their behavior. You no, we
are not here to justify anybody's behavior. Nobody has a
right to take anybody else's life. You know, if we're
talking about something that is most scarious, it's when you
have child killers, somebody who is obsessed with children and
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you know it's hunting for a children as their trophies.
You know what, Unfortunately, we did see all around the
world these people usually do have a childhood trauma. Many
of them are also showing abuse of an animal as
a children. The growth show sexual and physical abuse as
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a children, and many if you're talking about females, some
people are saying, oh females, Well no, no. If we're
talking about females that are serial killers, that can be
even darker than the men. If you're talking, for example,
the black widow who was going for a power and
the money and the glory. So you mustn't understand that
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each and every one of them first all have a motive.
So the motive can come from a childhood background. So
let's say I was bullied and abused as a child.
Now I'm going to go back towards to the people
that it abused me or let's say it's not being
accepted if they have, especially the homosexuality. So now they're
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going towards to the women or transgender because they want
to be a female. Now they're going to kill the
females because they you know, the female's body is something
that they desired by. Because if they copy the females
and they were punishing outcasts by their families, you know,
this is what they go after. Some of them they
cannot also perform as a man. So what they would do,
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they will go after the prostitutes unfortunately and use them
mostly as a trophy. Is whether are the easy victims. Also,
another thing that people don't know a lot of times
texts is that many of these serial killers who come
from a horrible abusive families where a mother or a
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father did abuse them or they were abused by both,
they went through the social services cycles all over again.
So they were actually, if I can say, forgive my
language screwed up from the beginning up to the end,
and this was maybe the way, it's the wrong way
of gaining attention and saying that I do exist. Yes,
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negative attention does exist, even if it's by killing somebody,
and then you have copycats, somebody who is craving for
the fame, just like we have famous Zodiac. They remember
police officers are saying they had about ten fifteen people
coming to the door and saying, I'm Zodia com Zodiac.
And at the end, these were mentally disturbed people trying
to get actually fame and attachments to the others and
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attention that they're desperately craving. So hedonistic thrill to kill,
you know, uh, a sexual pleasure, lust, revenge, jealousy, power,
greed are many of the motives that can go and
then may have of course, the killer is born or
killer is made, that would be a little bit, uh,
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you know, from the from the scratch from my side.
Now I'll give the mic to you.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I want I wanted to touch on the trophies that
and some of the odd ones that that that they've
that that collected the different killers have collected in the past,
you know, but I will touch on what you were
talking about, because it seems like one of the one
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of the two are two two of the things that
we're really seeing in common with a lot of these
a lot of these killers, and it's one that they
have a lot of them have a domineering mother, and
I think you touched on that that seems to be
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a very common denominator. Some of them have really messed
up relationships with their mother, like Gary Ridgeway. Yes she
did some really peculiar and inappropriate things with him. But
the other thing is is what we're finding out now
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is funnel lobe damage. Yes, that seems to be something
that is shared almost almost down almost down to you know,
the team with with these, with these, with these folks
for some reason. H As far as nature versus nurture,
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I think it's a combination of both. I think you're born,
they're born with these tendencies and then something along their
life triggers them and they and they go into they
go down the wrong path, right, because not all your
psychopaths are killers. And I think that's a misunderstanding that
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a lot of people have because a lot of your
psychopaths are also these corporate headhunters, the CEOs, politicians, entertainers,
even professional athletes, and it goes hand in hand with
narcissism that you know, is what we see. But as
far as I want to when I'm jumping onto trophies,
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some of the odd ones that there was, and I'm
trying to find it and I can't find I can't
remember his name, but he he collected There was one
Brutos that he collected shoes. He had a foot, he
had a shoe finish. But there was another one, I
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believe it was in Russia Ukraine that he also collected shoes,
and that's the one I was looking for. And I
can't find him. But Bundy. Bundy collected heads. He was Yeah,
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he had decaptivated twelve of his victims with a hacksaw
before it's supposed to go. And the am odd sir Dayade.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Dodgy. I know, yeah, I know him because study about him.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
So that's right. He collected chessboard squares or no, I'm sorry,
that was alligator push. That was alligator Alexander pushed it
amid He killed forty two girls over a ten year
period beginning, and he believed that the salava of his
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victims gave him special powers and he would drain and
drink it after strangling him to death. This is really
and we're gonna have to do a case on him
because he was married and had three wives, all sisters
and they helped him cover up his crimes.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Because of it.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Rum mentally, yeah, I think you have to be you know,
I mean you can, you can be deemed because the
plea of insanity is very very hard to get in
the United States. I was able to talk to was
on the jury one time, and the guy that we
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were that we were we were on jury four, was
he was very mentally ill. There's no doubt about that.
And I was asking after the trial, I was asking
the to the prosecutor and the defense attorney why they
didn't why the defense attorney didn't go for the insanity please,
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And the prosecutor told me that it's very very difficult,
especially in Texas to get that because you have to
not only kill your mother, but sleep with their body
for a week to even get that. To Eve and
think about getting that, I'm like, oh my gosh, you know,
but Alexander Pushkin, I butchered these names. I should have
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let you do this. He collected chessboard chessboard squares. His
goal was to kill a victim for every chair, every
square on a chessboard. And I talked about Jerome Brutus.
Brutos kept the left foot of his first murder, and
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he would use it to model shoes. Yeah, he also
kept different parts of the body and stuff like that.
Charles Albright, he was known as the Dallas Ripper, also
the eyeball killer, and he was only convicted of one murder.
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But they're kept yeah, yeah, but they're they're certain that
he killed at least three in Dallas in the early nineties.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
And texts I both yeah, I think yet.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
But he would uh, he would gouge their eyes out
and keep that. Jeffrey Dahmer. Everybody knows about Jeffrey Donald,
the Milwaukee cannibal. They say genitals, but he kept all
kinds of body parts, all kinds he had heads, he
had genitals, he had all kinds of stuff and and
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totally on Caprico. He killed over He killed at least
fifty two people in the course of six months. When
they found him, he had one hundred one hundred items
belonging to his victims, including a pair of underwear from
each of his female victims. Ed Geen, He's known for
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a lot of people say faces, but I mean the
man had he was making a skin suit so he
could wear it and pretend. I think I believe he
was trying to pretend he was his mother. But he
also had had cut off craniums and using them for
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cereal bowls. He had lamp shades made out of human skin.
Of course, he had faces that he was wearing that
he would wear. I mean, it was it was really
that we're talking about some mentally disturbed people. But none
of these were declared legally insane and put it in
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a Santa Sun. The only serial killer really that I
know of, or one of the few I'll put I'll
say one of the few that was put into an
insane asilum was Albert Fish. Yeah. So but I'll hand
it back over to you.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Somebody was I'm going to answer that question. I was
reading the questions also as you were talking. Somebody was asking,
is most of the child killers are actually the child
killers if they're pedophiles? They are ninety nine percent people
that you know do take care of your children. So
let's say a mother or father. You don't even have
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given a birth or have a child as a father,
but you have a sympathy towards to children. You know,
they're young, they're in a We are not talking just
because your parents, you know that it's wrong to hurt
a child. That's totally wrong, you know. So there's many
people out there that are single, you know, or that
families or younger adults that they don't want to have
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a children. This is just their lifestyle, you know, But
they could be a wonderful advocate and protectors of the children.
So if we're talking about people that are mostly attracted
to the children and killers of the children, ninety nine
percent are actually the ones that are involved in pedophilia
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and abuse of a children. And somebody was also asking,
why are we actually seeing most of the time animals abuse.
So when somebody is starting to develop these very if
I can say wild, violent and very aggressive, strong intentions
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to kill and hurt somebody, they will usually go after
something that is innocent and something that cannot talk and
something that you know, it's defendless. So if you go,
you know, kill a cat, kill a dog, kill a bird,
a turtle, a frog, is my test of my power.
That's what usually they will do. So this is their
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test of the power. So from the frog, from the fish,
from the cat, it goes to dog. From the dog,
usually a little bit bigger animal goes to the close sibling,
so that could be a sister brother, you know. So
this is another step that I'm kind of entering. This
very demonic if I can say, dark and twisted the
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mansion where I'm gonna go and start killing the people.
So those are very I agree, very twisted people. But
that's also a very horrible sign of a mental illness.
As soon as you see the child is actually hurting animals,
hurting their siblings, you know, there's nothing wrong to ask
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for help. Please don't be stereotyped and say I don't
want to go there. It's just another thing. No, it's
better to stop this because you are also saving him
or her and also saving somebody out there. So better
jump into the precaution before it's too late. Another thing
that somebody was asking, you know, this sexual graphication is
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very important because for example, you were mentioning and I
have my I have my own list that I'll share.
So Edgar, yeah again kept like made the mask with
the faces. So this was telling you as he was
making the mask that he wanted to be somebody else.
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Very multi personality disorder, split disorder, going into different characters.
You know, even Millat kept his This is quite quite crazy.
He kept his victims camping equipment, camping imagine. Then of
course Ted Bundy, this is the gentleman that everybody loved.
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They call him a handsome devil. You know that you
look like a movie star. He could take any woman.
He was manipulated beautiful. But he had a display of
the heads because this is how he was seating his soul,
his his this is his trophy, this is what I achieved,
you know. And then John George, You're gonna go now bizarre.
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He kept his victim dogs. Isn't that strange? You know,
Ahma Turaji, like you say, he was drinking victims saliva.
And then Robert Hansen kept victim's jewelry. This is very important,
they said, the victim's jewelry is something that is very
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personal because that piece he was representing that person. So
as you're taking that jewelry from that person as your trophy,
they will say you're taking piece of their soul by themselves.
You know. John Christie kept bodies in his kitchen, and
they're saying the reason why because he wanted to see
and enjoy what he did. You know. Stanley Dean Baker
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kept his victim finger bones, and you will see also
this very common with cartel. This is a sign of
a power. So their prosecute somebody because they didn't convince them,
you know that they completed their crime or whatever. They'll
cut the ear, they'll cut the finger as the warning
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to that person or you know that they have a
power over that person. So this would be almost like
I have a power over you. I have a piece
of you. That's what they will take an ear. They'll
take an eye, a piece of it will make you
make you, you know, speechless by cutting the tongue. But
that's what usually for finger and for the ear. Uh,
you're talking about Jerry Brudosia he's told the victims and
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Anatoly on a pre Kinko kept his victims underwear. The
rea isn't like you were saying. The reason why I'm
mentioning that again, you must understand that many people that
do kill for the lust and basically for because of
the sexual addiction where they're very sexually violent towards to
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their basically victims. They do keep the underwear and a
lot of times they like to also keep female stockings
or they will even use them to kill the person
because to actually text two different way of killing is
also showing what kind of killer you are, So there's affication,
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there's see very horrible way of dying. But it's also
the way they would use lots of times stockings or
the you know, piece of material that that person is
wearing so they can suffocate them and make them die,
you know. Harry Glatman photographed his victims, and the reason
why when they actually did an interview with him, he said,
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because he was capable of seeing the fear in their eyes.
That was telling you that he was feeding his soul
onto the fear that he wanted the power. And each
time when he was looking through these albums that he
was having, he would actually enjoy it. They said, he
would get the power and the strength by looking off
the fear, you know, through these pictures. And Dennis Raider
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kept copies of his victims driving license, so as he
would kill somebody, he would take the photocopy machine and
take a driving license. And they said the reason why
because he said he would like to know who they
are and what they are, and he knew every person,
where they live, what did they do. They would even
drive beside their house to see their families and et cetera.
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So this tells you, and there's many others. This tells
you that basically, each and every one of them had
their own trophy, and that trophy was actually also their signature.
This is something that it's called communication with the police
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and with the law officers. So basically, when they have
a smiley face killer, we know he's living the smiley
face laughing at basically at authorities saying ha haha, you
cannot see me who I am? You know, I'm smiling
at you again, and I got you know. Then we
have somebody like Jock the Ripper, the famous one who
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was leaving the three golden coins, telling first of all
that he's very rich. Second or ald that he paid
for the service and that these females, these prostitutes are
nothing else by the dirt because he can pay them.
So every of these trophies is communication with authorities. And
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that's another scary part text when we have a copy
cut and that's what police also, and all these top
psychiatrists that work directly with the police they get really
scared of because this is where the things can go
down the hill if they capture original killer. And now
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ten fifteen years after somebody starts copying this person and
going towards the goal to achieve whatever they do or
even more. And this can be very very scary. For example,
when even have God forbid those shooting in the schools,
you have kids committing one crime and then another group
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of kids committing another crime. And the reason why, it's
all about glorification, getting the attention of the media, even
if it's a negative attention. I'm famous and somebody look
at me. So these are some of the very dangerous
and we can see twisted minds that and darkest, darkest
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points in human history because many of these serial killers,
you know, are coming to the ages from a long
time ago, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
And the thing about it is we talk about well
you were you touched on the different and the different methods.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yes, and.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Strangulation is a very very close and personal budgeting is
a very very close and personal. Stabbing is also the
same way. Yes, there's not many serial killers that shot
their victims like from a distance, okay, because that's that's
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kind of that's less personal for them, and that they're
getting there. They get their thrill from the kill, not
the sadistic side of it. Yes, the son of Sam
for example, Yes, very random and the h the d
(36:39):
C Snipers, those were And there's different there's different serial
killers out there. You have the sexual sadist, do you
have the goal oriented ones, veins oriented ones, and there
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they're not driven by the same thing. They're really not folks. Yeah,
some of them get sexual graphification to the point of
climax when they're committing a murder. And that's one a
lot of them, especially the ones that you'll find it
where they either bludgeing their their victim's death or they
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strangle them. Most times it's strangle them. They'll go back
and revisit the crime scenes, they'll go back and revisit
the bodies, and they'll actually have sex with the bodies.
Garry Ridgeway with this. In fact, Ted Bundy told the
cops that that if you want to catch him, stake
out a crime scenes because he's going back to him
(37:44):
because he did the same thing. One one person that
that always stands out to me and I think it's
a fascinating case is Kemper. Yeah, because Kemper is one
of I don't I don't. He may be the only one.
I don't know. I can't remember now that actually turned
himself in and but Kemper was Kemper was. I saw
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the comment about the IQ. Kemper was very very He
had a very high IQ. And to the point to
where when he killed his grandparents when he was young,
when he was a kid, they put him in a
mental hospital and he was helping them do the paperwork
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and everything for that. He was a trustee. He was
helping do the paperwork and go over all the test
and everything. So when it time when it came time
for him to have his evaluation to get out, he
knew exactly what they wanted to hear exactly told him, Well,
he went to one of his He went to one
of his appointments. Is follow up appointments with a body
(39:03):
in the trunk out in the parking lot. Yeah, but again,
you know that goes back to the domineering mother because
she would lock him in the basement because she was
afraid of what he would do to his sisters. I've
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never seen an interview with either of his sisters, and
I would love to see that, because they would go
down in the basement and play games like execution. They
would tie him up like he was in an electric
chair and pretend to execute him. I don't know. I
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don't know where they're at these days. And I applaud
them for staying under the radar and living their own
lives exactly. And that's another thing that I also want
to touch on, what's left in these people's wake, their family,
(40:11):
their friends, because if you look at the well bt K,
his daughter actually reached out to the family of the
uh oh, the one up in New York, Dad going.
(40:35):
They just caught him not too long ago, which one
am I thinking about Dad going, But the architect, the
architect that they just caught, but his family was just ruined.
I mean that they just stated they were devastated. He
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left them with nothing and everything, and that that goes
back to the narcissism and the psychopathic because he didn't
care if it didn't if it didn't affect him, he
didn't care. And but she actually reached out to them
to help them deal with deal with the aftermath of him,
(41:18):
of him getting on, which I thought was very very
nice of her. And I don't know these It amazes
me how they live a double life. A lot of
(41:45):
these a lot of these Serra killers have a double life.
There for a long time, it was it was thought
that they couldn't hold a long term job, they couldn't hope,
they couldn't have a family life. That was the profile,
and a lot of them broke them Old Gary Ridge,
Wade b t K H. There. Then there's several more,
(42:07):
you know, be uh Gary Ridgway held a job for
thirty years and had and and and had and had
a wife. In fact, when he's met his third second
wife third. There for a while his killing stopped because
he was happy she was she was doing any and
anything he asked. But then it got to where his
(42:27):
urges took over and he couldn't he couldn't control them anymore.
But yeah, it's it's amazing when you really get into
the ass the the psychological aspect of what's going on
in their head. Because the trophies, the you know, the rituals,
(42:50):
the I was just listening to one about the artist
in Alabama that killed I think five victims, supposedly, I
think you killed a lot more. But the first bodies
they found were he was helping out at a shelter
or something like that, and he killed a woman that
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he was in a relationship with and her two kids
and left them in the form of a cross. Who
does that?
Speaker 1 (43:26):
You know?
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I mean, you have to where where does your mind
have to be.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
M She touched something that that it's very important, you know.
I must say. Just on last Friday, I had students
that will work in mental health and I was there
with the operation manager and he put me in charge
(43:56):
to welcome them and teach them for about a couple
of hours. So I said welcome. As much as this
is blessing, it's also a burden. That was my first
sentence to them when I'm saying blessed, it's a beauty,
beautiful thing to help out somebody that is struggling to
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see who they are what they are, being left from
their family, being bullied, loner, far away from their family,
not belonging and not having nobody to trust, abused probably
and traumatize in their childhood. As much as this is
a blessing that you're going to help them and help
their families, there's also a burden you will read and face.
(44:39):
Also some files that don't exist in Cold Wood books,
that don't exist in those dramas and the series. These
are real human stories that will be staying with you
for the rest of the life. And they asked me,
how do you disconnect with this? I said, when you
leave outside of this door, you always said I did
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the best I can. You never keep and never discuss
these cases with your families, because even the people that
are trained with that, there's a moment when they go like,
I cannot handle this anymore. This is too much, and
I tell them go do painting, do run, drive, go
to the church and meditation whatever. Connect with your families,
(45:22):
go out, you know, with your friends. But as much
as this is your work and you're making a difference,
you don't make this your entire life. This is part
of your life, this is your role, but not your
entire life. The reason why I'm mentioning this is because
you mentioned something that's very important. So detecting early sign
(45:42):
of serial killer is not easy, and it's something that
basically our commenology teams, you know, and the police and
old psychology is working. I think on it every day.
And one of the oldest question is are these serial
killers born or made? So the fact is now that
(46:05):
we know that you know it's both, So we have
the first fact would be when we are looking at
the serial killer possibility is somebody that has a major
childhood trauma that was abused or neglected as a child,
manipulated family dysfection, emotionally distanced, absent parent, and trauma is
recurring through their childhood. They are also suppress their emotions
(46:30):
and they have a lack of feelings for the others.
So there's nothing you know, killing somebody and killing an animal,
killing your best friend is something that it's like for
you and me getting this cup of water and donald
just want to leave it at the table. So they
don't have an appropriate response to the trauma. For example,
(46:50):
when we are looking at somebody going to the pain
even you know, when I'm providing the nursing care my job.
But that I told them even that day, there was
a couple of them that are I want to go
further into the nursing and everything into psych nursing. I
said to them something that is very important. You will
be a soldier. You are a soldier. So at that
(47:10):
moment you are actually putting all of your tools and
your skills to stop that pain. You cannot connect to
their pain as much as sometimes you will, but you
have to use the skills to help this person to
go away. From that pain or to control their pain.
So they have difficulties to figure out, you know, separation
(47:34):
from the mothers. You're mentioning something very important, So they
suppress the empathy or suffer from the control of emotional impulses.
So this is something that is very possibility of rejection, humiliation,
and bullying. And these are all spectrums that you know,
(47:58):
we work on every day to see a picture who
is the next serial killer or possible to be a
serial killer out there? And something that I want to
mention texts. I think I would like also to use
this to give up warning to all of you guys
(48:18):
and also to you know, kind of give you a
little bit of a knowledge. So as you take a
young youth, so it doesn't matter if you are a
grown man or a grown woman. You know, your frontal lobe,
it doesn't totally develop till you're eighteen or twenty one,
so basically there's no normal interception or the nerves connection
(48:41):
sending the messages between each other during that time. Somebody
who was sexually abused, physically abused, neglected, like you're saying, manipulated,
they won't be able to even understand what is happening.
And that's why we have flashbacks. Something that is serious
in those movies. It is flashbacks. So I don't know text,
did you have experience them? I'm sure many of you
(49:03):
in a chat room you did experience. It doesn't mean
that something is abnormal. You go like, hey, I now
remember this is is what happened when I listen, or
this is what happened you know, somebody pushed me or something,
(49:23):
or maybe there was a fire. Maybe. So your trauma
is becoming a more clear picture. And the reason why
is because now your brain is working properly and sending
you these flashbacks. So that's the only thing in these
movies that are showing these people in thirties and forties
scene and remembering the things that happened. That's the one
(49:44):
thing that I can tell is the truth. And another thing,
you know, please, if you have a youth or a child, again,
it doesn't have to be thirteen, twelve, seventeen or sixteen.
I'm talking about toddler who is to constantly destroying the
(50:04):
small toys. I know, the child that actually we were
helping with. When I read the file, he would constantly
text he was six, I'm lying. He attacked the girl,
and he was six years old, but they were saying
when he was already two or three would he didn't
know how, but they were teaching him, the parents were teaching.
(50:26):
He would take the parents off and for himself on
top of the little girls in the classroom in the preschool.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yeah. And the reason why because he was raised inside
of this family. When I read the file that it's
okay to do things like that. And he was also
touching his grandma inappropriately. Well, Grandma would say, these breasts
are only to be touched by Grandpa, by nobody else.
And when you read those files, you go like Grandma
(50:55):
was supposed to bake cookies with a grandson, you know,
Grandma was supposed to you know, teach grants and and
read the stories. There is Graham as there that unfortunately,
don't just bake cookies and think about, you know, a
little red ridinghood. There's much more out there. So things
like that, if you see a little boy or a girl,
it doesn't matter very highly sexually active for their age.
(51:20):
So touching people in appropriately, disclosing themselves, sitting inappropriately, especially
with the young girls, This is going to tell you
that something very badly is also happening to them, so
you can say them before they turn out into something bad.
Then if you have the youth a bullying and abuse,
an acceptance is a huge trigger for tomorrow to turn
(51:44):
into a darker monster of this world that we can
talk in the future. So doing prevention that you know,
basically North America, United States and Canada is trying the
hardest to do of most of the countries. Now France
is starting, Germany, you know, and Switzerland, Italian and Greece
(52:07):
is trying to make these conventions and to make these
seminars where people will learn more about the human being
in prevention. It starts from the early age texts. And
you're gonna be now laughing maybe when I tell you this.
Our children are starting to test us and the boundaries
when they're already six months old.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
Oh absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Six months old. When you look at those little bundles
of joy, you know, you know I love children, you
know I call them the blessing of this world. They
are testing you already. And this is when you, as
a parent, as a grandpa, as a grandma, as an auntie,
as a teacher, as a neighbor, can say, hey, you know,
I saw this. If you're thinking you cannot approach the parent,
(52:56):
there is a teacher you can approach. There is a
maybe uncle, grandma, somebody in the family that you can
give the flags up and help one child, you know,
saving themselves and also saving somebody out there being their victim,
because after they go to the other side, it's very,
very hard to come back because they'll go deeper and deeper.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
Yes, for sure, you know. I don't think we can
stress enough how important it is to catch these signs
as early as we possibly can. You know, so if
you're a new parent, especially if you're a young parent,
be mindful of the way they're acting, especially when your
(53:41):
kids are in school, if they're coming back and you
see a change in their personality, I mean a radical
change in their personality, lashing out, being very you know,
if you have an out a very outgoing child, out
(54:01):
and say, if they just start school and they start
being very introverted, yes, there may be something going on
there and you really need to investigate it. And I
think the best advice I can give to a parent,
a new young parent, do not take no for an
(54:22):
answer when you're trying to find out information, because a
lot unfortunately not all. Most of them are good. But
unfortunately these the daycares that even the schools that anywhere
(54:45):
your child is going to have these use use full
activities attract the people that are trying to preditate on
your child. Okay, so be very mindful and when you're
trying to find that information, do not take no for
(55:06):
an answer.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
I respect what you're saying. And another thing that you
know we're talking about these dark minds. You know that
you will be capable to reading in our book from
our side of the research and our conclusions together with
you guys. So the truth what is you know, these triggers,
(55:30):
these motivations, these trophies are all part of who they are.
This is fulfilling their needs, even of course this is
very dark and twisted need. But this is how they
were fulfilling their mental instability. These people are not mentally healthy,
(55:51):
as much as somebody was mentioning. They can have an
IQ level, yes, some of them. They can have an
IQ level. You know, they can be rocket scientists, you know,
best mathematicians and et cetera. The IQ level is different
from your mental stability or for example, uh, many other
issues that we are mentioning here today. So when these
(56:11):
very top you know, researchers do the studies about, you know,
the serial creers, some of them do have a very
good IQ level. And this is nothing else than the
masking who they are. So let's say, like mister Text,
you mentioned something. Unfortunately, of course, unfortunately, some of these
(56:32):
people that are doing these horrible things are coming from
the position of authorities. So this is their mask. So
this is masking who they are. You know, if you
look Jack the Ripper, let's go back, ages and ages back.
He was a physician. We know that, We know that
he was coming from the royalty. We know that he
(56:54):
had a knowledge, We know that he had anatomy, he
know phaseology. We know he was clean, he was precise.
So this was masking actually historical mental illness. And he's
revenge at the poor prostitutes, especially at that time. So
this is just nothing else by the mask.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
I want, I want to I want to take the
next few minutes because we're almost out of time, but
I want to take the next minutes to recognize some
of our listeners. Please. Parky's Paranormal Outdoors is a retired cop, volunteer, firefighter,
and Search and Rescue. I want to say thank you
for your service. You matter as much as any VET
(57:40):
out there as far as I'm concerned. Also, I want
to give a shout out to Rock and Roy she's retired,
to our n and e m T.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
Thank you the.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
We we love our people in blue and red as
much as we do are green out here. I understand
that because when you when when when you deal with
this on a daily basis as a profession, this type
(58:17):
of thing, being from the fire service, being from medical service,
e m T S, first responders, counselors, that type of thing,
you develop a warp sense of humor. Okay, And so
I get that, I really do. I'm a VET, I was,
(58:41):
I was in the fire service, e m T Service.
I get it. I've got friends that are in the
medical field. The Dutchess herself were one, and so we
get that. So but it's it's it's a coping mechanism,
is what it is. But I also want to say,
(59:05):
I want to put this out there to Roy, Sparky
and and and Pops knows this. We're not well, I say,
I can't say we I am no, I'm not a counselor.
By any stretch of the imagination. Okay, she is, Okay,
I try. Gary Spikes was a counselor. We have avenues
(59:32):
if you need to talk, if you don't need to
do nothing but bend an ear, reach out to us.
We're very very happy to you know, extend that for
it for you because sometimes you sometimes you just got
a vent. Sometimes you just got a vent, but you
gotta You can't vent to people at home that's never
(59:54):
been through this because they don't understand. And honestly, most
people can't take it. Okay, So now that's true, Kimber,
So feel free to reach out to us. You know,
I would rather, I would rather somebody talk to us
than keep it bottled up, because that's not healthy. Okay, but.
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
You know texts, I know all the times. Okay, I
say something when you're done for a minute, I think
everybody will understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Thank you, big hearts, and Kimber, even if it's a
personal trauma you're dealing with their people here to help. Absolutely,
we consider ourselves, you know. We we lovingly call ourselves
an island to misfit toys, and we're always welcoming the
(01:00:59):
new toy help me out and don't say it. So
feel free to reach out if you need to feel
feel free.
Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Anyway, go ahead, Well, thank you. The one thing that
I'm going to tell you, I'm dealing exactly with one
very very big, hectic case. And the reason why when
you said something bottling up. I've been talking about, for example,
this person that he's going to explode for about two
(01:01:30):
months and there were some errors in the system, not
from our side and from the social worker sides. I
must say that in certain other people. And then at
the end we did have that person explode, and I
said something, you can bottle up your anger and your
(01:01:52):
pain up to the level till nobody doesn't see it.
But once when you explode, God help you. So something
that I also want to say for the before we go,
please if you didn't if you're interested, who is the
next Antichrist? I did have a wonderful interview with doctor
Dennis Carol. You can see that on my YouTube channel
(01:02:17):
and join me. Tonight we have Divas di Mension. Then
we have Texas Front Porch. We're going to have amazing
shows coming entire day for you guys, and entire evening.
We have everything there so whatever you like. You're here
to entertain you and also give you a lots of
information and connect you with the rest of the world.
(01:02:37):
Stay safe, stay blessed, stay happy, and don't forget Cope, love,
piece and happiness is the biggest gift and blessing of
this world. So give hand to each other because that's
why we're here. Love you all and have a wonderful day.
Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
And don't forget. I'm gonna I need. I need to
get this out before we get there, and I'll play that.
I'll play the outro. But don't forget the comment. Friend's
coming up in Missouri, Yes, because we're all going to
be there September nineteen twentieth. Danielle is going to be there.
She's going to be doing personal readings. You're going to
have our book to sign. And we do have a
book coming out. It's Infamous Minds and Notorious Crimes, Book one,
(01:03:21):
and so we'll be happy to autograph it for you
or whatever. I don't know why you don't min autograph it, Okay,
but it's my first book, it's your what third?
Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
It will be third? And I'm thinking about something that
maybe at that show we can talk to whoever is
running it, and then you and I can make a basket.
So they're thinking, you know, they can do a little
draw and we can put the books inside and they
can do a little that's not a big deal, and
I think it will be nice. Whatever we can do
(01:03:55):
a draw and maybe whoever we can put the money
and maybe whoever wants to give up from a dot
up to two, you can go to a local shelter,
you know, children's shelter, animal shelter, whatever, you know, the
money can go there, and you know, this person can
go with a beautiful basket home and something to read
and share with his family.
Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Consider it done. If you want to do a raffle
and raffle off the basket, I do it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I think it will be fantastic and we can present
it so they can even talk to you and me imagine.
Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
But thank you everybody for joining us. And uh, Daniel,
what are you doing on Daniel on David's dimension?
Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Oh today me and Donnie at six pm we are
continuing the second part of the var wolves and basically
all different kinds of things. When you're talking about you know,
in then we go, we are talking about shape shifters
and et cetera, cools and stuff like that, so it
will be quite interesting show. So if you want to
(01:04:56):
join us, don't miss it. We are at six pm.
Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
That's awesome. They'll be careful and we'll see you. This
is the Future.
Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Evolution.
Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
This is the Future
Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Evolution.
There is a darkness that drives the devils of our
own humanity, joined Danielle in text as they explore these
infamous minds. Good afternoon, everybody. How are we doing?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon, United States of America. I'm doing
really well. I am. I must say I'm off today.
I'm usually working. I did work really late last night
on some files. I did listen to you and adjacent.
I must say, if you guys miss that show, please watch.
(01:00):
It was quite amazing. And I had a show with
doctor Dennis Carroll, so that was quite interesting. We talk
about the Bible and everything. So we have a second
part coming on next week. And then this morning I
got up and I was watching the intigration of the
(01:21):
forty seventh President of the United States, so on behalf
of the Canadians and my family. I want to say congratulations,
and I hope you know that you guys have a
much better new year, better lives. Hopefully you know the
voice of people will be heard and everything will be
(01:41):
better because we need a change here too. What's going
to happen here, God knows. So that's what I what
I can tell you, because here, when it comes to politics,
we are lost, Justin is gone. I'm not a politician.
You and I cheat you a little bit before this
guarded and we need we need a fresh start, somebody
(02:05):
who will be like mister Harper, that will bring our beauty,
our you know, autonomy, our country back like it was before.
So hopefully somebody, somebody.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Will you know, show up, you know, real quick. We've
got a lot of new listeners. I can see them,
so I want to kind of introduce us so they
know what they're getting. In wound. We talk about this
kind of stuff. Ladies Furst, I'll allow you to give
your background and then everything and then I'll then I'll go.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
But Lady Spurs, thank you very much. Text is always
a gentleman. So my background, I am Canadian in European background.
I came to Canada when I was fourteen years old.
I'm proud to be Canadian. I am. My background is
in a medical field in the nursing and UH wellness
(03:06):
and assessment, clinical assessment and behavioral interventionist specialist. I'm a writer,
I'm a mom, I'm a daughter. I do work and
do the teachings all around and presentation when it's coming
to against the violence and abuse uh, and the families
(03:28):
and domestic violence and abuse uh. And also as my
as my background, I do believe, and beauty of our
natural healing, I do believe. And also in hope, faith
and uh prayer. My background goes very very deep to
(03:51):
basically to the Count of Transylvania and the English Empires.
So I go really back for more than I can
say seventeen hundred years if you go back with my
ancest ancestry line, and basically I am trying my hardest.
(04:14):
Now two books are finished. One book is actually a
book that is written by me and mister Text and
it's called Informous Minds Serial Killer's Volume one, So it's
already given, but I'm so happy that will be there
when we are there doing our conference. And the second
(04:35):
book is actually talking about my great great uncle who
marry my mom's you can say great grade auntie and
that's a count of blood. That cool. So for you guys,
this is a Hollywood story. For me, this is a
way to worship somebody who was a national hero and
(04:57):
the night templar, So that's what I'm excited about.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And the Duchess is not just a made up title.
She is an actual duchess, that's what but you you uh,
and we we've got a great opportunity coming up in
Canada together. Yeah, and I don't know if we can
talk about that. Yeah, okay, okay, well you know more
(05:28):
about it than I do. I'm just, I'm just and
I ain't figured out why they want me. But I
understand why they want you, but I don't know why
they want me, uh, personally, as far as it goes
into the true crime and the psych psychology of what
makes these these people tick. And we don't just talk
(05:48):
about serial killers and everything. We go into colts, we
go into the missing cases, in saw cases, that type
of thing. We also but what we focus on and
don't we don't get into the groups some details and everything.
Sometimes you have to, but you know, just to get
the point across of what kind of monsters we're dealing with.
(06:11):
But what we really like to focus on is what
makes them tick, the victims and awareness. I think our
number one goal is try to break the circle of violence.
If I had to pick, if I had to pick
a goal for us, it's to help break that circle. Yeah,
(06:36):
but we this We got invited to speak at a
conference in Canada, and she just told me this the
other day and I'm still trying to get my mind
rapp around it. But this is not a this is
not a true crime conference. This is not a bigfoot conference.
(06:58):
It's not a paranormal conference. It's a conference. It's a
doctor's conference. Yes, we will be speaking on dealing with
trauma and the circle of violence and that type of thing.
I'm blown away. I don't know why they want my
(07:19):
opinion on this. You, I understand, and you kind of
downplayed your role in the whole mental health care You
you you have a very very important role at the
facility you work in. Yeah, and so so you get
(07:45):
you get to see this and deal with this firsthand
with you know, mentally ill patients and stuff like that.
So the schizophrenia, the narcissism, that all that, you actually
deal with people that are like that. So that's where
we come from, and that's why we enjoyed doing this,
and that's why we it's kind of a passion of ours,
(08:10):
which it's kind of weird because that's not how we met.
We met Danielle was doing space that she was a
host on space Out Radio for a while and they
had me on their show to talk about Bigfoot. Yes,
(08:31):
and y'all have heard me talk about this here lately,
the whole time loss incident that I had and I
was on the show and I was and Danielle was
one of the hosts and I was talking to it,
and I just all I did was, yeah, I I
(08:55):
had a time loss incident. That's all I said. And
Danielle was like, whoa, whoa, whoa I brought there. Don't
say another thing? Can I? Can I please say something?
I just got something Because what you don't know about
Danielle she's also a psychic media Okay, she's also a
wreokie master. She's very she's uh, she kind of downplayed
(09:16):
her whole thing. And she the woman speaks poor languages.
I mean she she's.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But anyway, she says stop right there, she goes, do
you mind? And if I'm picking something up? Can I say?
And she told me and she didn't know anything about this.
She didn't know I had talked to I had it
remote viewed by Jessica Jones. She didn't know anything. She
told me the exact pretty much the exact same thing
(09:48):
that Jessica had told me when she was remote giveing it.
I don't want to get into that right now. I'll
get into it later on another show. But and I'm
I'm still dealing with that because I'm still and deny
about what happened. But you know whatever. So that's where
that's that's where all this comes from, our true Crime Stove.
(10:09):
And because we we we hit it off right from
the get go. Came, we became instant friends, and she's
like my little sister. Oh, well you know you are.
It was she came, she came down to Texas and
she went to the dog Man Conference with us, and
(10:31):
it was so funny because when we finally got together
at the airport because she was upstairs, I was downstairs,
but she comes prancing out and her climbing in my
fullwood drive truck was funny to watch.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Folks.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I'm just saying, she is she she's this lady. She's
got to put rocks in her pockets to keep from
blowing away in a stiff wind. So but so that's
where we come from. For all the new listeners and everything.
That's our background and this and that's why we do this.
(11:09):
It's a passion of ours. So with that being said,
we're going to talk about and you you i'd love
this topic and you brought this up.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
The rituals, triggers and the the trophies, the background, what
you know made what made yeah? So again, going with
ladies first, what would you like to touch on first?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well, I'll first explain in a very couple of simple words.
You know, a serial killer would be somebody who does
kill three or more victims. You know, when we think
about serial killers, you know there's no country that doesn't
have them. There's no you know that they say, oh,
because we are this religion, it doesn't exist in our country,
because you know we are, this color doesn't exist in
(12:09):
our country. Our continent is better than yours, it doesn't exist.
Every country has the crime, and every country has the
serial killer of their own. Unfortunately, even if you're twenty
first century, you know this didn't disappear. Some of the
crimes are even bigger and bigger. What's kind of scary.
(12:29):
So what I can tell you, you know, ladies and gentlemen,
when you open the TV, you know, in the morning,
turn on the different channels and you kind of scrolling down,
you see, oh, this one is killing because of this
this one. I must tell you that you know, serial
killers can kill because of the trill, So it's a
pleasure to kill. This is how they greed of their
revenge or you know, they enjoy killing. Hedonistic killer would
(12:53):
be different than lust would be something that you have
a sexual killer or somebody who is using also you know,
trophies or for example female underwears, you know, lungerie and etc.
Then you have somebody who have like Aaron Berkovich who
was actually really a killer that was really psychotic because
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he was really mentally insane, comparing himself to a god.
Or if you have a David Karesh that they're talking
when there was that you know, whole fire between him
and total Fire squad that was quite crazy when there
was a general areno they're involved and many people died.
So all this is happening because people that are serial
(13:38):
killers do have different motives to kill. It also depends
from the way they're upbringing. It depends if they have
any childhood trauma or sometimes I know it's going to
sound crazy, sometimes there's a genetical factor. Now it's proven
that people can't be born serial killers or from certain trauma.
(13:58):
You know, they can turn and abuse. They can turn
to one that this justified their behavior. You no, we
are not here to justify anybody's behavior. Nobody has a
right to take anybody else's life. You know, if we're
talking about something that is most scarious, it's when you
have child killers, somebody who is obsessed with children and
(14:20):
you know it's hunting for a children as their trophies.
You know what, Unfortunately, we did see all around the
world these people usually do have a childhood trauma. Many
of them are also showing abuse of an animal as
a children. The growth show sexual and physical abuse as
(14:40):
a children, and many if you're talking about females, some
people are saying, oh females, Well no, no. If we're
talking about females that are serial killers, that can be
even darker than the men. If you're talking, for example,
the black widow who was going for a power and
the money and the glory. So you mustn't understand that
(15:01):
each and every one of them first all have a motive.
So the motive can come from a childhood background. So
let's say I was bullied and abused as a child.
Now I'm going to go back towards to the people
that it abused me or let's say it's not being
accepted if they have, especially the homosexuality. So now they're
(15:21):
going towards to the women or transgender because they want
to be a female. Now they're going to kill the
females because they you know, the female's body is something
that they desired by. Because if they copy the females
and they were punishing outcasts by their families, you know,
this is what they go after. Some of them they
cannot also perform as a man. So what they would do,
(15:43):
they will go after the prostitutes unfortunately and use them
mostly as a trophy. Is whether are the easy victims. Also,
another thing that people don't know a lot of times
texts is that many of these serial killers who come
from a horrible abusive families where a mother or a
(16:04):
father did abuse them or they were abused by both,
they went through the social services cycles all over again.
So they were actually, if I can say, forgive my
language screwed up from the beginning up to the end,
and this was maybe the way, it's the wrong way
of gaining attention and saying that I do exist. Yes,
(16:27):
negative attention does exist, even if it's by killing somebody,
and then you have copycats, somebody who is craving for
the fame, just like we have famous Zodiac. They remember
police officers are saying they had about ten fifteen people
coming to the door and saying, I'm Zodia com Zodiac.
And at the end, these were mentally disturbed people trying
to get actually fame and attachments to the others and
(16:53):
attention that they're desperately craving. So hedonistic thrill to kill,
you know, uh, a sexual pleasure, lust, revenge, jealousy, power,
greed are many of the motives that can go and
then may have of course, the killer is born or
killer is made, that would be a little bit, uh,
(17:16):
you know, from the from the scratch from my side.
Now I'll give the mic to you.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I want I wanted to touch on the trophies that
and some of the odd ones that that that they've
that that collected the different killers have collected in the past,
you know, but I will touch on what you were
talking about, because it seems like one of the one
(17:49):
of the two are two two of the things that
we're really seeing in common with a lot of these
a lot of these killers, and it's one that they
have a lot of them have a domineering mother, and
I think you touched on that that seems to be
(18:09):
a very common denominator. Some of them have really messed
up relationships with their mother, like Gary Ridgeway. Yes she
did some really peculiar and inappropriate things with him. But
the other thing is is what we're finding out now
(18:31):
is funnel lobe damage. Yes, that seems to be something
that is shared almost almost down almost down to you know,
the team with with these, with these, with these folks
for some reason. H As far as nature versus nurture,
(19:04):
I think it's a combination of both. I think you're born,
they're born with these tendencies and then something along their
life triggers them and they and they go into they
go down the wrong path, right, because not all your
psychopaths are killers. And I think that's a misunderstanding that
(19:28):
a lot of people have because a lot of your
psychopaths are also these corporate headhunters, the CEOs, politicians, entertainers,
even professional athletes, and it goes hand in hand with
narcissism that you know, is what we see. But as
far as I want to when I'm jumping onto trophies,
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some of the odd ones that there was, and I'm
trying to find it and I can't find I can't
remember his name, but he he collected There was one
Brutos that he collected shoes. He had a foot, he
had a shoe finish. But there was another one, I
(20:14):
believe it was in Russia Ukraine that he also collected shoes,
and that's the one I was looking for. And I
can't find him. But Bundy. Bundy collected heads. He was Yeah,
(20:40):
he had decaptivated twelve of his victims with a hacksaw
before it's supposed to go. And the am odd sir Dayade.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Dodgy. I know, yeah, I know him because study about him.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
So that's right. He collected chessboard squares or no, I'm sorry,
that was alligator push. That was alligator Alexander pushed it
amid He killed forty two girls over a ten year
period beginning, and he believed that the salava of his
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victims gave him special powers and he would drain and
drink it after strangling him to death. This is really
and we're gonna have to do a case on him
because he was married and had three wives, all sisters
and they helped him cover up his crimes.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Because of it.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Rum mentally, yeah, I think you have to be you know,
I mean you can, you can be deemed because the
plea of insanity is very very hard to get in
the United States. I was able to talk to was
on the jury one time, and the guy that we
(22:03):
were that we were we were on jury four, was
he was very mentally ill. There's no doubt about that.
And I was asking after the trial, I was asking
the to the prosecutor and the defense attorney why they
didn't why the defense attorney didn't go for the insanity please,
(22:26):
And the prosecutor told me that it's very very difficult,
especially in Texas to get that because you have to
not only kill your mother, but sleep with their body
for a week to even get that. To Eve and
think about getting that, I'm like, oh my gosh, you know,
but Alexander Pushkin, I butchered these names. I should have
(22:53):
let you do this. He collected chessboard chessboard squares. His
goal was to kill a victim for every chair, every
square on a chessboard. And I talked about Jerome Brutus.
Brutos kept the left foot of his first murder, and
(23:23):
he would use it to model shoes. Yeah, he also
kept different parts of the body and stuff like that.
Charles Albright, he was known as the Dallas Ripper, also
the eyeball killer, and he was only convicted of one murder.
(23:48):
But they're kept yeah, yeah, but they're they're certain that
he killed at least three in Dallas in the early nineties.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
And texts I both yeah, I think yet.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
But he would uh, he would gouge their eyes out
and keep that. Jeffrey Dahmer. Everybody knows about Jeffrey Donald,
the Milwaukee cannibal. They say genitals, but he kept all
kinds of body parts, all kinds he had heads, he
had genitals, he had all kinds of stuff and and
(24:27):
totally on Caprico. He killed over He killed at least
fifty two people in the course of six months. When
they found him, he had one hundred one hundred items
belonging to his victims, including a pair of underwear from
each of his female victims. Ed Geen, He's known for
(24:57):
a lot of people say faces, but I mean the
man had he was making a skin suit so he
could wear it and pretend. I think I believe he
was trying to pretend he was his mother. But he
also had had cut off craniums and using them for
(25:21):
cereal bowls. He had lamp shades made out of human skin.
Of course, he had faces that he was wearing that
he would wear. I mean, it was it was really
that we're talking about some mentally disturbed people. But none
of these were declared legally insane and put it in
(25:44):
a Santa Sun. The only serial killer really that I
know of, or one of the few I'll put I'll
say one of the few that was put into an
insane asilum was Albert Fish. Yeah. So but I'll hand
it back over to you.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Somebody was I'm going to answer that question. I was
reading the questions also as you were talking. Somebody was asking,
is most of the child killers are actually the child
killers if they're pedophiles? They are ninety nine percent people
that you know do take care of your children. So
let's say a mother or father. You don't even have
(26:26):
given a birth or have a child as a father,
but you have a sympathy towards to children. You know,
they're young, they're in a We are not talking just
because your parents, you know that it's wrong to hurt
a child. That's totally wrong, you know. So there's many
people out there that are single, you know, or that
families or younger adults that they don't want to have
(26:47):
a children. This is just their lifestyle, you know, But
they could be a wonderful advocate and protectors of the children.
So if we're talking about people that are mostly attracted
to the children and killers of the children, ninety nine
percent are actually the ones that are involved in pedophilia
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and abuse of a children. And somebody was also asking,
why are we actually seeing most of the time animals abuse.
So when somebody is starting to develop these very if
I can say wild, violent and very aggressive, strong intentions
(27:28):
to kill and hurt somebody, they will usually go after
something that is innocent and something that cannot talk and
something that you know, it's defendless. So if you go,
you know, kill a cat, kill a dog, kill a bird,
a turtle, a frog, is my test of my power.
That's what usually they will do. So this is their
(27:50):
test of the power. So from the frog, from the fish,
from the cat, it goes to dog. From the dog,
usually a little bit bigger animal goes to the close sibling,
so that could be a sister brother, you know. So
this is another step that I'm kind of entering. This
very demonic if I can say, dark and twisted the
(28:12):
mansion where I'm gonna go and start killing the people.
So those are very I agree, very twisted people. But
that's also a very horrible sign of a mental illness.
As soon as you see the child is actually hurting animals,
hurting their siblings, you know, there's nothing wrong to ask
(28:33):
for help. Please don't be stereotyped and say I don't
want to go there. It's just another thing. No, it's
better to stop this because you are also saving him
or her and also saving somebody out there. So better
jump into the precaution before it's too late. Another thing
that somebody was asking, you know, this sexual graphication is
(28:57):
very important because for example, you were mentioning and I
have my I have my own list that I'll share.
So Edgar, yeah again kept like made the mask with
the faces. So this was telling you as he was
making the mask that he wanted to be somebody else.
(29:18):
Very multi personality disorder, split disorder, going into different characters.
You know, even Millat kept his This is quite quite crazy.
He kept his victims camping equipment, camping imagine. Then of
course Ted Bundy, this is the gentleman that everybody loved.
(29:39):
They call him a handsome devil. You know that you
look like a movie star. He could take any woman.
He was manipulated beautiful. But he had a display of
the heads because this is how he was seating his soul,
his his this is his trophy, this is what I achieved,
you know. And then John George, You're gonna go now bizarre.
(30:03):
He kept his victim dogs. Isn't that strange? You know,
Ahma Turaji, like you say, he was drinking victims saliva.
And then Robert Hansen kept victim's jewelry. This is very important,
they said, the victim's jewelry is something that is very
(30:24):
personal because that piece he was representing that person. So
as you're taking that jewelry from that person as your trophy,
they will say you're taking piece of their soul by themselves.
You know. John Christie kept bodies in his kitchen, and
they're saying the reason why because he wanted to see
and enjoy what he did. You know. Stanley Dean Baker
(30:48):
kept his victim finger bones, and you will see also
this very common with cartel. This is a sign of
a power. So their prosecute somebody because they didn't convince them,
you know that they completed their crime or whatever. They'll
cut the ear, they'll cut the finger as the warning
(31:09):
to that person or you know that they have a
power over that person. So this would be almost like
I have a power over you. I have a piece
of you. That's what they will take an ear. They'll
take an eye, a piece of it will make you
make you, you know, speechless by cutting the tongue. But
that's what usually for finger and for the ear. Uh,
you're talking about Jerry Brudosia he's told the victims and
(31:32):
Anatoly on a pre Kinko kept his victims underwear. The
rea isn't like you were saying. The reason why I'm
mentioning that again, you must understand that many people that
do kill for the lust and basically for because of
the sexual addiction where they're very sexually violent towards to
(31:53):
their basically victims. They do keep the underwear and a
lot of times they like to also keep female stockings
or they will even use them to kill the person
because to actually text two different way of killing is
also showing what kind of killer you are, So there's affication,
(32:15):
there's see very horrible way of dying. But it's also
the way they would use lots of times stockings or
the you know, piece of material that that person is
wearing so they can suffocate them and make them die,
you know. Harry Glatman photographed his victims, and the reason
why when they actually did an interview with him, he said,
(32:37):
because he was capable of seeing the fear in their eyes.
That was telling you that he was feeding his soul
onto the fear that he wanted the power. And each
time when he was looking through these albums that he
was having, he would actually enjoy it. They said, he
would get the power and the strength by looking off
the fear, you know, through these pictures. And Dennis Raider
(33:02):
kept copies of his victims driving license, so as he
would kill somebody, he would take the photocopy machine and
take a driving license. And they said the reason why
because he said he would like to know who they
are and what they are, and he knew every person,
where they live, what did they do. They would even
drive beside their house to see their families and et cetera.
(33:24):
So this tells you, and there's many others. This tells
you that basically, each and every one of them had
their own trophy, and that trophy was actually also their signature.
This is something that it's called communication with the police
(33:44):
and with the law officers. So basically, when they have
a smiley face killer, we know he's living the smiley
face laughing at basically at authorities saying ha haha, you
cannot see me who I am? You know, I'm smiling
at you again, and I got you know. Then we
have somebody like Jock the Ripper, the famous one who
(34:05):
was leaving the three golden coins, telling first of all
that he's very rich. Second or ald that he paid
for the service and that these females, these prostitutes are
nothing else by the dirt because he can pay them.
So every of these trophies is communication with authorities. And
(34:25):
that's another scary part text when we have a copy
cut and that's what police also, and all these top
psychiatrists that work directly with the police they get really
scared of because this is where the things can go
down the hill if they capture original killer. And now
(34:45):
ten fifteen years after somebody starts copying this person and
going towards the goal to achieve whatever they do or
even more. And this can be very very scary. For example,
when even have God forbid those shooting in the schools,
you have kids committing one crime and then another group
(35:06):
of kids committing another crime. And the reason why, it's
all about glorification, getting the attention of the media, even
if it's a negative attention. I'm famous and somebody look
at me. So these are some of the very dangerous
and we can see twisted minds that and darkest, darkest
(35:26):
points in human history because many of these serial killers,
you know, are coming to the ages from a long
time ago, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
And the thing about it is we talk about well
you were you touched on the different and the different methods.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yes, and.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Strangulation is a very very close and personal budgeting is
a very very close and personal. Stabbing is also the
same way. Yes, there's not many serial killers that shot
their victims like from a distance, okay, because that's that's
(36:13):
kind of that's less personal for them, and that they're
getting there. They get their thrill from the kill, not
the sadistic side of it. Yes, the son of Sam
for example, Yes, very random and the h the d
(36:39):
C Snipers, those were And there's different there's different serial
killers out there. You have the sexual sadist, do you
have the goal oriented ones, veins oriented ones, and there
(36:59):
they're not driven by the same thing. They're really not folks. Yeah,
some of them get sexual graphification to the point of
climax when they're committing a murder. And that's one a
lot of them, especially the ones that you'll find it
where they either bludgeing their their victim's death or they
(37:21):
strangle them. Most times it's strangle them. They'll go back
and revisit the crime scenes, they'll go back and revisit
the bodies, and they'll actually have sex with the bodies.
Garry Ridgeway with this. In fact, Ted Bundy told the
cops that that if you want to catch him, stake
out a crime scenes because he's going back to him
(37:44):
because he did the same thing. One one person that
that always stands out to me and I think it's
a fascinating case is Kemper. Yeah, because Kemper is one
of I don't I don't. He may be the only one.
I don't know. I can't remember now that actually turned
himself in and but Kemper was Kemper was. I saw
(38:14):
the comment about the IQ. Kemper was very very He
had a very high IQ. And to the point to
where when he killed his grandparents when he was young,
when he was a kid, they put him in a
mental hospital and he was helping them do the paperwork
(38:41):
and everything for that. He was a trustee. He was
helping do the paperwork and go over all the test
and everything. So when it time when it came time
for him to have his evaluation to get out, he
knew exactly what they wanted to hear exactly told him, Well,
he went to one of his He went to one
of his appointments. Is follow up appointments with a body
(39:03):
in the trunk out in the parking lot. Yeah, but again,
you know that goes back to the domineering mother because
she would lock him in the basement because she was
afraid of what he would do to his sisters. I've
(39:26):
never seen an interview with either of his sisters, and
I would love to see that, because they would go
down in the basement and play games like execution. They
would tie him up like he was in an electric
chair and pretend to execute him. I don't know. I
(39:49):
don't know where they're at these days. And I applaud
them for staying under the radar and living their own
lives exactly. And that's another thing that I also want
to touch on, what's left in these people's wake, their family,
(40:11):
their friends, because if you look at the well bt K,
his daughter actually reached out to the family of the
uh oh, the one up in New York, Dad going.
(40:35):
They just caught him not too long ago, which one
am I thinking about Dad going, But the architect, the
architect that they just caught, but his family was just ruined.
I mean that they just stated they were devastated. He
(40:58):
left them with nothing and everything, and that that goes
back to the narcissism and the psychopathic because he didn't
care if it didn't if it didn't affect him, he
didn't care. And but she actually reached out to them
to help them deal with deal with the aftermath of him,
(41:18):
of him getting on, which I thought was very very
nice of her. And I don't know these It amazes
me how they live a double life. A lot of
(41:45):
these a lot of these Serra killers have a double life.
There for a long time, it was it was thought
that they couldn't hold a long term job, they couldn't hope,
they couldn't have a family life. That was the profile,
and a lot of them broke them Old Gary Ridge,
Wade b t K H. There. Then there's several more,
(42:07):
you know, be uh Gary Ridgway held a job for
thirty years and had and and and had and had
a wife. In fact, when he's met his third second
wife third. There for a while his killing stopped because
he was happy she was she was doing any and
anything he asked. But then it got to where his
(42:27):
urges took over and he couldn't he couldn't control them anymore.
But yeah, it's it's amazing when you really get into
the ass the the psychological aspect of what's going on
in their head. Because the trophies, the you know, the rituals,
(42:50):
the I was just listening to one about the artist
in Alabama that killed I think five victims, supposedly, I
think you killed a lot more. But the first bodies
they found were he was helping out at a shelter
or something like that, and he killed a woman that
(43:12):
he was in a relationship with and her two kids
and left them in the form of a cross. Who
does that?
Speaker 1 (43:26):
You know?
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I mean, you have to where where does your mind
have to be.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
M She touched something that that it's very important, you know.
I must say. Just on last Friday, I had students
that will work in mental health and I was there
with the operation manager and he put me in charge
(43:56):
to welcome them and teach them for about a couple
of hours. So I said welcome. As much as this
is blessing, it's also a burden. That was my first
sentence to them when I'm saying blessed, it's a beauty,
beautiful thing to help out somebody that is struggling to
(44:17):
see who they are what they are, being left from
their family, being bullied, loner, far away from their family,
not belonging and not having nobody to trust, abused probably
and traumatize in their childhood. As much as this is
a blessing that you're going to help them and help
their families, there's also a burden you will read and face.
(44:39):
Also some files that don't exist in Cold Wood books,
that don't exist in those dramas and the series. These
are real human stories that will be staying with you
for the rest of the life. And they asked me,
how do you disconnect with this? I said, when you
leave outside of this door, you always said I did
(45:00):
the best I can. You never keep and never discuss
these cases with your families, because even the people that
are trained with that, there's a moment when they go like,
I cannot handle this anymore. This is too much, and
I tell them go do painting, do run, drive, go
to the church and meditation whatever. Connect with your families,
(45:22):
go out, you know, with your friends. But as much
as this is your work and you're making a difference,
you don't make this your entire life. This is part
of your life, this is your role, but not your
entire life. The reason why I'm mentioning this is because
you mentioned something that's very important. So detecting early sign
(45:42):
of serial killer is not easy, and it's something that
basically our commenology teams, you know, and the police and
old psychology is working. I think on it every day.
And one of the oldest question is are these serial
killers born or made? So the fact is now that
(46:05):
we know that you know it's both, So we have
the first fact would be when we are looking at
the serial killer possibility is somebody that has a major
childhood trauma that was abused or neglected as a child,
manipulated family dysfection, emotionally distanced, absent parent, and trauma is
recurring through their childhood. They are also suppress their emotions
(46:30):
and they have a lack of feelings for the others.
So there's nothing you know, killing somebody and killing an animal,
killing your best friend is something that it's like for
you and me getting this cup of water and donald
just want to leave it at the table. So they
don't have an appropriate response to the trauma. For example,
(46:50):
when we are looking at somebody going to the pain
even you know, when I'm providing the nursing care my job.
But that I told them even that day, there was
a couple of them that are I want to go
further into the nursing and everything into psych nursing. I
said to them something that is very important. You will
be a soldier. You are a soldier. So at that
(47:10):
moment you are actually putting all of your tools and
your skills to stop that pain. You cannot connect to
their pain as much as sometimes you will, but you
have to use the skills to help this person to
go away. From that pain or to control their pain.
So they have difficulties to figure out, you know, separation
(47:34):
from the mothers. You're mentioning something very important, So they
suppress the empathy or suffer from the control of emotional impulses.
So this is something that is very possibility of rejection, humiliation,
and bullying. And these are all spectrums that you know,
(47:58):
we work on every day to see a picture who
is the next serial killer or possible to be a
serial killer out there? And something that I want to
mention texts. I think I would like also to use
this to give up warning to all of you guys
(48:18):
and also to you know, kind of give you a
little bit of a knowledge. So as you take a
young youth, so it doesn't matter if you are a
grown man or a grown woman. You know, your frontal lobe,
it doesn't totally develop till you're eighteen or twenty one,
so basically there's no normal interception or the nerves connection
(48:41):
sending the messages between each other during that time. Somebody
who was sexually abused, physically abused, neglected, like you're saying, manipulated,
they won't be able to even understand what is happening.
And that's why we have flashbacks. Something that is serious
in those movies. It is flashbacks. So I don't know text,
did you have experience them? I'm sure many of you
(49:03):
in a chat room you did experience. It doesn't mean
that something is abnormal. You go like, hey, I now
remember this is is what happened when I listen, or
this is what happened you know, somebody pushed me or something,
(49:23):
or maybe there was a fire. Maybe. So your trauma
is becoming a more clear picture. And the reason why
is because now your brain is working properly and sending
you these flashbacks. So that's the only thing in these
movies that are showing these people in thirties and forties
scene and remembering the things that happened. That's the one
(49:44):
thing that I can tell is the truth. And another thing,
you know, please, if you have a youth or a child, again,
it doesn't have to be thirteen, twelve, seventeen or sixteen.
I'm talking about toddler who is to constantly destroying the
(50:04):
small toys. I know, the child that actually we were
helping with. When I read the file, he would constantly
text he was six, I'm lying. He attacked the girl,
and he was six years old, but they were saying
when he was already two or three would he didn't
know how, but they were teaching him, the parents were teaching.
(50:26):
He would take the parents off and for himself on
top of the little girls in the classroom in the preschool.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yeah. And the reason why because he was raised inside
of this family. When I read the file that it's
okay to do things like that. And he was also
touching his grandma inappropriately. Well, Grandma would say, these breasts
are only to be touched by Grandpa, by nobody else.
And when you read those files, you go like Grandma
(50:55):
was supposed to bake cookies with a grandson, you know,
Grandma was supposed to you know, teach grants and and
read the stories. There is Graham as there that unfortunately,
don't just bake cookies and think about, you know, a
little red ridinghood. There's much more out there. So things
like that, if you see a little boy or a girl,
it doesn't matter very highly sexually active for their age.
(51:20):
So touching people in appropriately, disclosing themselves, sitting inappropriately, especially
with the young girls, This is going to tell you
that something very badly is also happening to them, so
you can say them before they turn out into something bad.
Then if you have the youth a bullying and abuse,
an acceptance is a huge trigger for tomorrow to turn
(51:44):
into a darker monster of this world that we can
talk in the future. So doing prevention that you know,
basically North America, United States and Canada is trying the
hardest to do of most of the countries. Now France
is starting, Germany, you know, and Switzerland, Italian and Greece
(52:07):
is trying to make these conventions and to make these
seminars where people will learn more about the human being
in prevention. It starts from the early age texts. And
you're gonna be now laughing maybe when I tell you this.
Our children are starting to test us and the boundaries
when they're already six months old.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
Oh absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Six months old. When you look at those little bundles
of joy, you know, you know I love children, you
know I call them the blessing of this world. They
are testing you already. And this is when you, as
a parent, as a grandpa, as a grandma, as an auntie,
as a teacher, as a neighbor, can say, hey, you know,
I saw this. If you're thinking you cannot approach the parent,
(52:56):
there is a teacher you can approach. There is a
maybe uncle, grandma, somebody in the family that you can
give the flags up and help one child, you know,
saving themselves and also saving somebody out there being their victim,
because after they go to the other side, it's very,
very hard to come back because they'll go deeper and deeper.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
Yes, for sure, you know. I don't think we can
stress enough how important it is to catch these signs
as early as we possibly can. You know, so if
you're a new parent, especially if you're a young parent,
be mindful of the way they're acting, especially when your
(53:41):
kids are in school, if they're coming back and you
see a change in their personality, I mean a radical
change in their personality, lashing out, being very you know,
if you have an out a very outgoing child, out
(54:01):
and say, if they just start school and they start
being very introverted, yes, there may be something going on
there and you really need to investigate it. And I
think the best advice I can give to a parent,
a new young parent, do not take no for an
(54:22):
answer when you're trying to find out information, because a
lot unfortunately not all. Most of them are good. But
unfortunately these the daycares that even the schools that anywhere
(54:45):
your child is going to have these use use full
activities attract the people that are trying to preditate on
your child. Okay, so be very mindful and when you're
trying to find that information, do not take no for
(55:06):
an answer.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
I respect what you're saying. And another thing that you
know we're talking about these dark minds. You know that
you will be capable to reading in our book from
our side of the research and our conclusions together with
you guys. So the truth what is you know, these triggers,
(55:30):
these motivations, these trophies are all part of who they are.
This is fulfilling their needs, even of course this is
very dark and twisted need. But this is how they
were fulfilling their mental instability. These people are not mentally healthy,
(55:51):
as much as somebody was mentioning. They can have an
IQ level, yes, some of them. They can have an
IQ level. You know, they can be rocket scientists, you know,
best mathematicians and et cetera. The IQ level is different
from your mental stability or for example, uh, many other
issues that we are mentioning here today. So when these
(56:11):
very top you know, researchers do the studies about, you know,
the serial creers, some of them do have a very
good IQ level. And this is nothing else than the
masking who they are. So let's say, like mister Text,
you mentioned something. Unfortunately, of course, unfortunately, some of these
(56:32):
people that are doing these horrible things are coming from
the position of authorities. So this is their mask. So
this is masking who they are. You know, if you
look Jack the Ripper, let's go back, ages and ages back.
He was a physician. We know that, We know that
he was coming from the royalty. We know that he
(56:54):
had a knowledge, We know that he had anatomy, he
know phaseology. We know he was clean, he was precise.
So this was masking actually historical mental illness. And he's
revenge at the poor prostitutes, especially at that time. So
this is just nothing else by the mask.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
I want, I want to I want to take the
next few minutes because we're almost out of time, but
I want to take the next minutes to recognize some
of our listeners. Please. Parky's Paranormal Outdoors is a retired cop, volunteer, firefighter,
and Search and Rescue. I want to say thank you
for your service. You matter as much as any VET
(57:40):
out there as far as I'm concerned. Also, I want
to give a shout out to Rock and Roy she's retired,
to our n and e m T.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
Thank you the.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
We we love our people in blue and red as
much as we do are green out here. I understand
that because when you when when when you deal with
this on a daily basis as a profession, this type
(58:17):
of thing, being from the fire service, being from medical service,
e m T S, first responders, counselors, that type of thing,
you develop a warp sense of humor. Okay, And so
I get that, I really do. I'm a VET, I was,
(58:41):
I was in the fire service, e m T Service.
I get it. I've got friends that are in the
medical field. The Dutchess herself were one, and so we
get that. So but it's it's it's a coping mechanism,
is what it is. But I also want to say,
(59:05):
I want to put this out there to Roy, Sparky
and and and Pops knows this. We're not well, I say,
I can't say we I am no, I'm not a counselor.
By any stretch of the imagination. Okay, she is, Okay,
I try. Gary Spikes was a counselor. We have avenues
(59:32):
if you need to talk, if you don't need to
do nothing but bend an ear, reach out to us.
We're very very happy to you know, extend that for
it for you because sometimes you sometimes you just got
a vent. Sometimes you just got a vent, but you
gotta You can't vent to people at home that's never
(59:54):
been through this because they don't understand. And honestly, most
people can't take it. Okay, So now that's true, Kimber,
So feel free to reach out to us. You know,
I would rather, I would rather somebody talk to us
than keep it bottled up, because that's not healthy. Okay, but.
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
You know texts, I know all the times. Okay, I
say something when you're done for a minute, I think
everybody will understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Thank you, big hearts, and Kimber, even if it's a
personal trauma you're dealing with their people here to help. Absolutely,
we consider ourselves, you know. We we lovingly call ourselves
an island to misfit toys, and we're always welcoming the
(01:00:59):
new toy help me out and don't say it. So
feel free to reach out if you need to feel
feel free.
Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Anyway, go ahead, Well, thank you. The one thing that
I'm going to tell you, I'm dealing exactly with one
very very big, hectic case. And the reason why when
you said something bottling up. I've been talking about, for example,
this person that he's going to explode for about two
(01:01:30):
months and there were some errors in the system, not
from our side and from the social worker sides. I
must say that in certain other people. And then at
the end we did have that person explode, and I
said something, you can bottle up your anger and your
(01:01:52):
pain up to the level till nobody doesn't see it.
But once when you explode, God help you. So something
that I also want to say for the before we go,
please if you didn't if you're interested, who is the
next Antichrist? I did have a wonderful interview with doctor
Dennis Carol. You can see that on my YouTube channel
(01:02:17):
and join me. Tonight we have Divas di Mension. Then
we have Texas Front Porch. We're going to have amazing
shows coming entire day for you guys, and entire evening.
We have everything there so whatever you like. You're here
to entertain you and also give you a lots of
information and connect you with the rest of the world.
(01:02:37):
Stay safe, stay blessed, stay happy, and don't forget Cope, love,
piece and happiness is the biggest gift and blessing of
this world. So give hand to each other because that's
why we're here. Love you all and have a wonderful day.
Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
And don't forget. I'm gonna I need. I need to
get this out before we get there, and I'll play that.
I'll play the outro. But don't forget the comment. Friend's
coming up in Missouri, Yes, because we're all going to
be there September nineteen twentieth. Danielle is going to be there.
She's going to be doing personal readings. You're going to
have our book to sign. And we do have a
book coming out. It's Infamous Minds and Notorious Crimes, Book one,
(01:03:21):
and so we'll be happy to autograph it for you
or whatever. I don't know why you don't min autograph it, Okay,
but it's my first book, it's your what third?
Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
It will be third? And I'm thinking about something that
maybe at that show we can talk to whoever is
running it, and then you and I can make a basket.
So they're thinking, you know, they can do a little
draw and we can put the books inside and they
can do a little that's not a big deal, and
I think it will be nice. Whatever we can do
(01:03:55):
a draw and maybe whoever we can put the money
and maybe whoever wants to give up from a dot
up to two, you can go to a local shelter,
you know, children's shelter, animal shelter, whatever, you know, the
money can go there, and you know, this person can
go with a beautiful basket home and something to read
and share with his family.
Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Consider it done. If you want to do a raffle
and raffle off the basket, I do it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I think it will be fantastic and we can present
it so they can even talk to you and me imagine.
Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
But thank you everybody for joining us. And uh, Daniel,
what are you doing on Daniel on David's dimension?
Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Oh today me and Donnie at six pm we are
continuing the second part of the var wolves and basically
all different kinds of things. When you're talking about you know,
in then we go, we are talking about shape shifters
and et cetera, cools and stuff like that, so it
will be quite interesting show. So if you want to
(01:04:56):
join us, don't miss it. We are at six pm.
Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
That's awesome. They'll be careful and we'll see you. This
is the Future.
Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Evolution.
Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
This is the Future
Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Evolution.
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