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September 7, 2025 • 22 mins
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In this episode of Ink & Impact, we step through the pantry with Jake Epping in Stephen King’s 11/22/63 and walk straight into one of history’s darkest days — the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

We break down the timeline of November 22, 1963, the infamous single-bullet theory, and the troubled path of Lee Harvey Oswald. But more than history, we wrestle with the big question: fate vs. free will.

Was JFK’s death a tragic accident, or was it destiny?
Would changing the past ever truly change the future?
And should we even want the power to rewrite history?

✨ Episode 18 reminds us that determination can shape the world — for good or for ill — but ultimate control rests with God, not us.

Listen now, reflect deeply, and bloom boldly.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
What if you could step the reporter into the past.
What if you had the chance to stop a tragedy
before it happened? Would you take it? In Stephen King's
eleven twenty two sixty three, a man named Jake Epping
is given that choice to stop the assassination of President

(00:28):
John F. Kennedy. That if Jake learns the past doesn't
want to be changed, it fights back today. On Eco Impact,
we step into that story, not only the fiction, but
the fact, the moment in Dallas, the man behind the rifle,

(00:52):
and the question of fate versus free Will.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
You think that if JFK lived, Robert Kennedy would run
for president? Seriously, it's tough for so if Bobby doesn't run,
that means no, Sir and sir and at the Ambassador
Hotel in nineteen sixty eight, save JFK. Save his brother.

(01:26):
And that's what I mean about the butterfly effect.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Then there's Vietnam.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Uh okay, So if you save JFK, then there's no Vietnam.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Johnson was the one who escalated everything in Norma. If
Kennedy had survived, no way does that escalation continue.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Those boys would have lived.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
I get it, but changing the past to make it
how you think it should be.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
It just seems Vietnam enfolded exactly as it should have.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
That reason, American history is just honkey dory.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
That saving JFK is just a theory.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
You don't know what it's gonna change.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
You know what I know.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
You're staying at Kennedy's life. You make the world a
better place. God damn it. Al, don't you want to
do any fucking thing that matters.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
I'm just saying you don't have any proof. You don't
know that what you do in the past is gonna
change anything. Here go see, but you won't. You want
me to go stab someone?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
No, Jake, there's a tree out there, carve something in it,
Jesus Christ nature.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Than.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
The next time you go through that carving won't be there.

(04:20):
Why each time you go in everything rests.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's always eleven fifty eight On October twenty first, nineteen
sixty you saw yuh, everything looked exactly the same. No
matter how long you stay, three weeks, three years, and
you come back, only two minutes will have passed you.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Two minutes and makes up these rules.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I'm just explaining that if you want to change something forever.
You can't ever go back, going back your races, what
you did before.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
November twenty second, nineteen sixty three, Dallas, Texas. The day
began like a celebration. Crowds gathered at love Field Airport,
flags waving children on shoulders. At eleven forty eight m,

(05:25):
President John F. Kennedy and First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy stepped
off Air Force One, greeted by cheers. At eleven fifty
five am, the motorcade began its route through Dallas at
twenty At twelve twenty nine, the motorcaide entered Delhi Plaza.

(05:49):
Inside the limousine was Secret Service agents William Greer and
Roy Killyman in the front, John Colling, the Governor and
his wife Neelie and the middle, and in the back
was Present and the First Lady. At twelve thirty pm,
the shots were fired. The first shot missed, striking the
curve and wounding a bystander, but the second struck Kennedy

(06:13):
in the back and exited his throat and hit Governor colony,
a chain of wounds explained by what became known as
the single bullet theory. The third shot was fatal shattering
Kennedy's head and with it the innocence of a nation.
Jackie Kennedy, in shock, reached across the trunk of the car,

(06:37):
reaching for what just had been taken. By twelve thirty two,
the limousine was reaching the Parkland Hospital. By one PM,
John F. Kennedy was pronounced dead. The violence continued. At
one eight pm, Dallas police officer TD I'm sorry, JD

(07:00):
It was shot and killed, and by one PM a
young man named Lee Harvey Oswald was under arrest. Two
days later, Oswald himself was killed by Jack Ruby live
on television. At two thirty eight PM. Aboard Air Force

(07:21):
one was lending me Johnson sworn in as the thirty
sixth President of the United States. Beside him Jackie Kennedy
and her pink suit stained with wood. That day, America

(07:42):
didn't just lose a leader. Many say it lost its innocence.
And yet even the facts remained contested, the single bullet theory,
the missing pieces, and the unanswered question. So who was Oswald?

(08:16):
Lee Harvey Oswald was born October eighteenth, nineteen thirty nine,
in New Orleans. I didn't even know that because of
his accent with him being so I guess, oh, with
the Soviet Union for so on, I guess.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
But his father died before he was born. He grew
up moving from place to place without stability. At seventeen,
he dropped out of high school and enjoining the Marines,
searching for structure or should I say, a mission. He

(08:53):
was a capable sharpshooter, but an indifferent soldier. In the ranks,
he began to express pro Soviet radical views. By nineteen
fifty nine he left the Marines, and within days he
was on a ship to the Soviet Union and Mysk.
He worked and married Marina Prusokhova, became a father, but

(09:19):
never found belonging, rejected as a citizen there, dismissed in
America upon his return. Oswald was always in between, always restless.
By nineteen sixty three, at just twenty four years old,

(09:39):
Oswald was young, angry, isolated, and searching for significance. So
why Kennedy the President represented something Oswald couldn't touch, power, hope, visibility.

(10:03):
To strike Kennedy was to strike the nation, to force
the world to see him. But the truth is Oswald
never told us. Jack Ruby's bullet silenced him before the interrogation.
His motives live only in fragments, speculation, and myth, and

(10:27):
yet his actions carved themselves into history. That's major. That
shows a lot with little insight.

Speaker 6 (10:49):
What I saw was it was really impossible to tell
one way or another. But I agreed with him because
I wanted to finish with this before he collapsed, and
I intended to see him safely into his bed before
I left.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
What I'm telling you, Jake, is that you can change
the past, but it's not as easy as you might think.
That morning, I felt like a man trying to fight
his way out of a nylon stocking. It would give
a little, then snap back just as tight as before. Finally, though,

(11:26):
I managed to rip it open. Why would it be hard?
Because the past doesn't want to be changed. Something doesn't
want it to be changed. I'm pretty sure of that.
But it can be if you take the resistance into account,

(11:47):
it can be.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
So here's the parallel. In fiction, Jake Epping fights against it,
time itself on the day of the assassination. The world
resists him, trees fall, obstacles rise, the past pushes back
against his attempt to rewrite it. In reality, Lee Harvey
Oswald sits at a table, assembling his rifle, timing himself

(12:18):
peace by peace, motion by motion, rehearsing the precision it
would take to change history for him. Nothing pushes back.
Two men, two missions, both convinced that the determination could
alter the future. Jake's mission to save a president, Oswald's
mission to kill one. Jake's battle, the resistance of time,

(12:42):
Oswald's battles, the obscurity of being forgotten. Now what we
need to focus on is what is really heaviest. One
man tried to stop history, and the other one wrote
it in bud And so we come to the question

(13:12):
fate or free will? Was it O'swal's decision alone, his
free will that shape that November day? Or was it
destiny already ridden into the fabric of history. If every
decision we make becomes part of God's plan, does free

(13:33):
will itself become destiny? We like to believe we can reset,
start over, rewrite, but life doesn't give us a restart button.
The outcomes of someone else's actions aren't ours to change.
That responsibility belongs to God alone. Now there's a relief

(13:56):
in that truth, because it means that the weight of
history isn't ours? Is it on our shoulders? We're called
only to live faithfully in the present. God already knows
the choices will make, even before we make them. His
plan is greater than our what ifs now? Maybe the

(14:19):
lesson isn't about stopping bullets or we write in history.
Maybe it's about trusting that even in tragedy, even in loss,
even in moments that break us, God is still writing
a story bigger than ours. And in that story there
is peace, there's freedom, There's no need to resent. But

(14:55):
what if Jake did succeed? What if Kennedy lived? In
Stephen King's story, Jake saves the president? History is rewritten,
But what follows isn't what he expected?

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Does answer me?

Speaker 7 (15:20):
Answer me one thing?

Speaker 4 (15:21):
What was John F. Kennedy re elected in nineteen sixty four? What?

Speaker 7 (15:29):
What do you wanna know about Kennedy?

Speaker 3 (15:30):
For just tell.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
He was residly going through jobs before.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Wallace Wallace George Wallace was president? What? What about Vietnam?
Was there in Vietnam War? H Robert Kennedy was?

Speaker 1 (15:51):
He was?

Speaker 4 (15:52):
He killed in nineteen sixty eight?

Speaker 7 (15:55):
I don't think so?

Speaker 4 (15:59):
Nine eleven.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Does that mean do anything new?

Speaker 4 (16:07):
What? What did Kennedy do when when he was president?

Speaker 7 (16:10):
Anything good?

Speaker 6 (16:16):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (16:16):
Well, you you talking about the camps.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
The camps.

Speaker 7 (16:20):
I took my mom and my brother and sister to
a Kennedy refugee camp nine seventy five. We happened to
the first mamas. We didn't have no place else to go.
When the camps were bad places, bad things happened there.

(16:43):
He only we gotta take him away until you during
the Malaysia when he was fifteen. I never seen him again.
When Mama daughter flew, I just ran away.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Where were Where were they called Kennedy camps?

Speaker 7 (17:06):
You found them? I wouldn't present them anymore. The two moms.
I don't understand. I thought JFK would have made things better.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
This is where the butterfly effect comes in, the idea
that even the smallest change in the past, the flap
of a butterfly's wings, can cause mass of unpredictable consequences
in the future. Saving one man might seem like it
fixes everything, but r in reality, it can unravel the

(17:52):
world we know. Worlds could, wars could break out differently,
lives could be lost instead of saved, and the hope
that we thought we were protecting might disappear altogether. The

(18:13):
clip we just heard is a reminder that even if
Jake save Kennedy, the outcome wasn't what he expected. That
takes us straight into the idea of the butterfly effect.
Back in nineteen seventy two and my teen meteorologist Edward
Lewinz posed a famous question, does the flap of the

(18:34):
butterfly's wings in Brazil set off a tornado in Texas?
Now in popular culture, people often use that phrase to
say that tiny events have huge direct impacts, But Lorenz's
actual point was a little different and much deeper. He

(18:58):
meant that in a complex systems like the weather or
like history, even the smallest changes at this start can
lead to outcomes that are completely unpredictable. You can't calculate
every possibility because the web of causes and effects is
just too complex. That insight became the foundation of chaos theory.

(19:25):
And here's where I bring it back to me. This
shows why trying to control the past or the future
isn't ours to carry. Oswald and Jake at something in common.
Both try to control what wasn't theirs to control. Oswald
played god with who lives or dies? Driven by ego

(19:49):
and ideology. Jake tried to rewrite the past, believing he
could create a better outcome. But how do we know?
How could Jake know that saving Kennedy would really save
the future. What if the variables of that one moment
unraveled everything else. That's why I believe only God can

(20:15):
see the whole picture. Only he holds the future in
his hands. If we had that kind of power, it
would keep us from truly living in the present. So
while chaos theory shows us that outcomes are unpredictable, God's
word shows us that he is unshaken. He already knows

(20:37):
the ending from the beginning. And so as we step
back from the story of jfk Oswald and Jake Effing,
remember this, the actions of one person with determination can

(20:59):
shape the world for good or ill. But the power
to change history also comes with a weight of consequences
we can't predict. So we leave you with this challenge.
Would you step through the portal or would you leave
the past untouched? Trusting that the fate has already made

(21:22):
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