Beyond the Cube: One Big Beautiful Bill Act

Beyond the Cube: One Big Beautiful Bill Act. The House has just passed the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, and it has mixed reviews.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's going on? Guys? You boys four twenty here working,
you'll back another episode the Alenge. Thank you got the
title and everything up here, and I've got the powerful
one with us Tory, he dam extraordinariy.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Okay, I'm sick.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well, I mean, what's what's going on?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Well, I mean I got a chest called I'm sick.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, yeah, I noticed it. Uh, I
knowed she had the tissue with you, and uh, you know,
I didn't know if it was a if we needed
a moment of silence or anything, if we just had
the running days obviously.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well you're you sound a little muffled, but I can't
tell if it's you or my ears.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
It's probably eas okay, it's more than like all right,
more likely it's hey, hey, look it's all good. It's
all good.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
We're going so funny because I don't I had chuss
cold in like five years. I literally never got sick.
And then Chris and his fucking wife have been sick
for a couple of days, and I've been walking around
the house going ha ha, motherfuckers. I don't get sick.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Mmm. Okay, So this one, this one came back and
about beach. Yeah, you see, you gotta be careful man
when you're on the high horse, all right, And that's
the same, yeah, having a high Hey. Look, here's what's key.
Here's what Here's what I do. Okay, here's what I do.

(01:42):
Whenever I feel it coming home. Then I go ahead
and I get that that super sick. That's a thousand
milligrams of the vitamin C H as well as the
vitamin D and the zinc. Think.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I take a thousand milligrams vitamin C every day and
I have for at least the last month because I
have a different thing supplement, but I haven't been taking
that one.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Okay, okay, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
I just get a whole lot. Because I had some
gun bleeding and so I watched the thing on YouTube
and they said that can be caused by vitamin C deficiency,
Like he gets scurvy, And so I fucking got some
vitamin C and it stopped. What do you know, all right? Yeah, scurvy?
You know you know the pirates used to get it.
Their teeth fall out of their fucking head. Oh, let's
find a good picture of some scurvy.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Think that scurvy? You know what I'm saying. When the
last somebody got scurvy.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I don't fucking know people who get a people get
stuck on like people get stuck on like islands and
stuff like, they get scirvy.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Okay, well I got right up. Heer. The last major
documented outbreak of scurvy occurred in Afghanistan in two thousand
and two.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Oh what happened in Afghanistan in two thousand and two?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
We bomb their food supply?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Askink Well, I mean, mate, look for we're not going
to associated with that. Okay, what do you survey look like? Oh?
Here we go. Have you got scurvy? This is a
good picture right here. Hold on, let me get this up.
And this is actually terrible, but that's okay. Uh, here
we go right here, right here, You got scurvy? Hey, guys, hey,

(03:29):
just check on this. If these are your symptoms, then
maybe you want to go get checked out. Sore gums,
stomach rumbling, your feet are itching, your sea legs are
no longer. I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
You are irritable because sailors are already to go out
on these boats and they wouldn't have any vitamin C.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Okay, there are red blotches under your skin, your hunger
is constant, you're cranky. People don't like you. I mean,
is this real?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yes, yes, vitamin sea deficiency. Got to eat oranges. Motherfuckers,
SUPs don't like you.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
That's part of scurvy.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I guess. So I mean you could apply that to
like aids too.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Huh yeah, I guess. So here we go. This is
the red blotches, So this is like more than a blotch.
This is definitely an issue. Yeah, it is scurvy, guys.
This is some crazy stuff. Look, I mean, folks don't
get this really anymore. Okay, is this is this natural
legs of scurvy? Okay, okay, this is what the legs

(04:36):
look like. Somebody who's scurvy reading?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Oh what's that one on the left that looks like
Hannibal Lecter?

Speaker 1 (04:44):
But what it is? Them guns are atrocious though, Bud. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. Oh man, God, hey, hey,
if anybody knows anybody who's gotten scurvy, I mean, leave
it in the common section. You know what I'm saying.
Anybody who's ever gotten scurvedy before? That seems like some

(05:09):
shit that you know, you shouldn't be around. They said
there was some sporadic cases. I think it said, uh,
what's it? Okay? Yeah. For twenty twenty three, a case
was reported in a young man in Australia. All right,
so man in Australia twenty twenty three got scarved.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, take your rightam and see people. They'll be gross.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah yeah. I mean, you know, if you just drink,
if you drink, you some orange juice. Hey, now, I
tell you now, look it cost you. But uh, when
we go on vacation and I go to these breakfast spots,
that's my favorite part of vacation is breakfast spots. I
like to go to the elegant breakfasts, okay, And I

(05:53):
go to the spots and like, would you like an
orange juice? And I'm like yeah, And I look over
there and they got the machine with the oranges in
the top and then cuts them open, the squeezes the
juice out. Bo ain't nothing better. It's some freshly squabs.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
So orange juice in particular has always been expensive, always,
even in Florida. You'd think in Florida that shit would
come out of the water fountain is so much of it, right,
But no, even in Florida. There was a place right
up the road for me called All Britain orange Groves,
and it was like hundreds of acres of orange groves

(06:30):
and they would sell the oranges and they would sell
the juice. You could go there and like pick your
own oranges and then like get it fresh squeeze and stuff.
That was the fucking greatest goddamn orange juice of all time.
And that shit, way back in the day, like more
than ten fifteen years ago, was like fucking five dollars
a half a gallon, when orange juice was two dollars

(06:51):
and a half a gallon, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
And so you said you should hunt gallon, but I'm trying.
When I go and get the freshly squames, am my
twelve inch glass, this shit like seven dollars.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yes, that's ridiculous, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
But hey, but look, I'm on vacate. Now. Look here,
here's what I told folks. When I'm around town. All right,
Like there's a place in town called the rick House,
and I look at their places and they're like fifty
dollars places, and I'm like, I can walk back to
my house, so, you know, a fifty dollars plate. You know,
I'm really not feeling that. Now. If I'm five hours

(07:29):
away from the house, maybe I spurge on the fifty
dollars plate, Okay, potentially, But when I'm within walking distance
of my crib, like I'm in my town, I'm like, like,
I look around at the town, I'm like, it shouldn't
be any any place here it's got a fifty dollars plate,
you know what I'm saying. It's like, if I'm in Vegas,

(07:51):
or if I'm in a you know, some big city,
you happen to run across an establishment, maybe you want
to do something a little bit more higher class, which
I shouldn't because all I wear out is damn jogging pants,
you know what I'm saying. So there, folks would be like, nijey,
you got money to pay this bill, right, And I'm like, yeah,

(08:12):
I got cash, but but yeah, I don't know being
so close to the house, so in town, I wouldn't
spend seven dollars on the pristles clothes. And plus there's
nobody in town that has the priceless clothes. They pour
that ship right out of a car.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
You know, you can go get like a big old
bag of oranges and squeeze at your goddamn self for
like three bucks.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Oh yeah, boat, I'm on when I'm on vacate. Then
when I'm vacant.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
See, I want every day to be vaca. It can't
be that, it can be gotta be rich and that's coming.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah. Even then, you gotta work work to keep folks
from stealing your money.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
When that happens. I'm getting that seven dollar arms juice
every day, maybe even twice.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Hey, you just go up there to be like i'd
be like we did like your regular you like, yes, ma'am,
I want to.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Like go in there. They know my name, they got
my order ready. It's like I had a place that
was getting like that here at a place I was
going to like for when we were doing when we
were balling last year. We always ball between like October
and February our best months. We do like double what
we normally make and through those months, and so all
last fucking holiday season, I was treating myself. I was

(09:31):
going out to eat, like you know, sit down dinners,
like three or four days a week, you know. And
I got to this one place I really like, this
breakfast place, and I got to know the names of
like three or four of the waitresses, and they knew
me when I came in, and then I got to
my broke face again, so now it was all new people.
I go back, it's all new people.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's like, fuck, hey, look, sometimes you just want to
go where everybody knows you.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Ain't you got a damn point. Absolutely, I wish I
had a play.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Like that White used to in this town. It used
to be sub Dogs. Look. I went to Suck Dogs
so much at one point in time that I got
invited to their employee Christmas party because that's how much
I was at the place Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

(10:26):
If I'm feeling froggy, I might be there Sunday, Mondays
I want there. But I was there like almost every
night that this was back during my and I still
have some wind lives during my my party phase. But yeah, yeah,
all the waters is there knew me, and you know,
I'd come in and it'd be crowded, you packed. I

(10:47):
come in and I'd be like, I just pointed a
couple of them. I'd be like, we're gonna be over there, boom.
But two minutes later, I had drinks at the take
be ready. I felt like the ip okay, but a
very important person and so uh yeah, yeah, I had
some pool back in the day. It got I had

(11:09):
some pull up, some establishments back in the day. You know,
they knew who I was, all right, and see who's
coming in here. Yeah we got to help him out. Yeah, yes,
please and help my homies out too. That didn't really
number uh my friends that well because they don't know,
they didn't talk that much, but they knew me. So

(11:31):
that was good enough. That's the way it is. So
always if you can be a poor with people at places. Now,
of course you're in a college town, so I expect,
you know, turnover, and that's what here I had. It
was probably it was a good four year window. And
then by that time, you know, I started dating my
girlfriend and everybody else had got married and had kids. Say,

(11:53):
so that the party phase was you know, was was
phasing out per se, and so it was all good.
It was. It was a good window. Uh had a
good time. Nobody died. That's the main thing about your
party phase. No jail time, no DUIs, no this you
know what I'm saying. I call that a hall of

(12:13):
fame career.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yep, I was speaking of d UIs Chris. You know
Chris from Forbidden Knowledge News. Uh, he got hit by
a dui driver today. Oh shit, Well, mid day, nine
o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Nine a year. They drunk from the night before.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I don't think, so I pulled up on the scene.
I can't. I went out there. It was minor. It
was like a slide. The guy was in a pickup
truck and he was pulling a trailer, and when Chris
got into the turn lane, this guy was like five
feet into the turn lane, so they slide. They hit
the sides, you know what I mean. He gets in
the turn lane and the car coming at him just
destroyed his mirror and all and scraped up side of

(12:56):
his truck. So he already got a lawyer and to
get the emergency room and the whole nine yards. So
he's already plotted his uh nin he The only thing
that really happened was he got like some scrap cuts
on his face from the mirror broke his passage driver's
side mirror broke into the car and shot all at

(13:16):
his face. He's all cut up on his face and
he has some whiplash in his neck. And his back hurts.
But it's the typical stuff, you know. But he called
the lawyer from the goddamn waiting room at the er,
and he's got a lawyer working the case already, and
the lawyer has a road back. The lawyers like, Okay,
this is what we're going to do today. This is
what we're going to do in four days, in eight days,
we're going to do this, I mean the whole, the

(13:39):
whole suing the insurance company. He gets some loot. Is
like they got it prepackaged, ready to go. It's like
a formula script. And so you're working.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
It like a little prepackaged lawsuit.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Now, I said, Chris, can I get his car out
of this?

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Said, I'm looking some Okay, he's so, you guys are
mature for me, you know, don't leave me out, Do
not pass me by. Well it's a good thing he could,
but damn, I mean goodness, that's that's diabolical work. Being
drunk at nine am.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, and the guy didn't have a driver license or
none of that stuff. He had insurance but it was
in like his girlfriend's name. So they're still working through
that stuff. Hey, Yeah, it's a mess. It's a mass.
People who drink at night in the morning usually have
a suspended license, and they usually don't all are n'table
to stay within the confines of normal society.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, that's a shame about about the only time that
I do something like that is. Uh, we went to Savannah,
Georgia Saint Patti's Week, but we won't drive. We walked.
He So we walked from our hotel. Even though the
hotel was like a half a mile Tidney from downtown,
we walked that half a mile into downtown and then
stay in downtown almost the entire day. If one of

(14:54):
us got tired, we walked back to the hotel and
then we walked back out. So, well, you.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Got a conference coming your way, conference coming New York Town.
The guys who got the fucking infrared under the pyramids
are doing their big American presentation in your city.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Green Yep, Grainville, North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah. I just saw I don't know where they're doing
it at, but I saw a little I saw a
little clip for it, and I was like, oh, no, ship.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
And so the infrared for these with these cylinders under
the pyramid, is that right?

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Right? They got some new stuff. They got new they
have new infrareds which offers like more information. I guess
what they showed is only the tip of the iceberger
what they got.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
This is this gonna show with something like where we
can go into like a different dimension, Like maybe I
could go back to the dimension where we were pre
uh you know, March of twenty twenty, back when life
made see.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
It what I wouldn't fucking do.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
You know?

Speaker 2 (16:00):
The last years shouldn't have happened. They never should have happened.
I got hit by COVID and I feel like I
almost died from it. A lot of people got fucked
up from it. Then they did the swapper roo with
the flu. It was a whole fucking mind control operation
from the jump right. But would we be we were

(16:23):
where we are today if that didn't happen, or would
we just be in the same status quo establishment who's
sending money for fucking condoms and goddamn Iceland? You know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Like it sounds like it sounds like the condoms are
don't keep going. They haven't. The House and the Senate
won't vote on those days because.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Are you sure? Are you serious?

Speaker 1 (16:45):
They have to vote on them? Like the whole prey, okay,
so everybody hated Elon Musk. Elon Musk never had any
power to do anything. He went in there and him
and his team were there to look at the ship
and see where there was strawled and let folks know that, hey,
here's what a frawl, here's which you should probably could
and then but they had to vote on it. They

(17:06):
never have.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
I'm just glad I don't pay taxes, like I'm never
gonna pay them. They can suck my deck. I mean,
I watched a video from this fucking constitutional tax guy
like a couple of weeks ago, and he's like, He's like,
I haven't I haven't even filed a tax returned in
thirty two years, and I'm going to show you why.

(17:31):
And then he went on this half hour spiel about
there's nothing they can do about it. Not filing does
nothing they can do to you, is what he was saying.
Because taxation is voluntary, and the laws are about taxing
voluntar people outside of our country and foreign entities within
the country, not American citizenry to be taxed direct tax directly,
never voted on and approved by Congress in the proper manner.

(17:51):
So this guy's like fuck these people. I'm like, fuck
these people because I'm poor, and then no jury gonna
convict me. So that's why I don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
The tax bracket. So so the tax bracket makes a
difference on whether somebody would come looking for you or
not per se. So that's why I believe that. You know,
you always see these actors and stuff for the ones
that get caught with tax evasion, because I mean their

(18:21):
finances right out there in the open.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
So I mean, I mean they look over there and
they'd be like, Okay, you know Tom Cruise done been
in or let's say Wesseley Snipes because he got caught
the text Taxvason, Wesley Snipes.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
We've seen you did Blade one, Blade two, and Blade three.
We ain't seen not near tax return, and we know
you got paid for that.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I think it's when you lie, is when you get
in trouble. I think that's it. I think if you
lie you get in trouble, that's evasion. If you just
go in there and say suck my dick. I don't
think there's much they.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Can do to you. Okay, maybe couple. Look, you can
always taste the waters.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
I got about twenty five years left on this earth
in twenty four I'll give you a report.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
It's that I made at this point in time. I
got one year last and I made. Okay, I made
all this time. I pay ship and I told him
to kiss my ass and the damn process kiss if you.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Are forced to pay taxes or you go to prison,
we're not a free country. You're an indentured servitude. You
know you're an indentured servitude period. And I don't want
to hear nothing knows about it.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, always man, Well a slave is something slave to
our desires, slave and slave.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
To the Yeah, but there's a fun.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
They're fun. They're not fuod you know what I'm saying.
You know, that's one thing that I always hear people
talk about and it's like he's got a fight. Lust,
I said. Lust is what keeps the damn human species
going because we can't just depend on you just going
out here and just making this thing happen. We need
this chemical stuff that be happening in your brain to

(20:06):
make you thing hard, to make her put anywhere, make
you want to fornicate with no rubber. It said, Well,
it feel better without a rubber, say yeah, well, yeah,
it's supposed to.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Because getting pgnant a myth.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Okay, you gotta watch out. He'd be he'd be myth
and everything TDS, pregnancy. You know what I'm saying. What's
the other things? Space? Space and myth? There is no
space some myths, all right. So I mean so when
people are sitting there like fight lust, I'm like, no,

(20:49):
let's isletus is a natural response in you to make
you reproduce. Split it in this man, because uh, you know,
we're not like just straight up like wild animal where
they're in the heat, you know what I'm saying, and
just you know what I'm saying, they smelling it and
it's like, oh it's time to fuck. I mean, that's
what happens, you know, with with wild ans. So all

(21:14):
makeups are just a touch different, but that that chemical
reaction when you see something that looks nice, you know
what I'm saying. She touches your leg and it stands up,
and you know what I'm saying, things happen. So it's
just like, man, everybody who's sitting there and they're like, oh,
you know, I never I never looked at her that way.

(21:35):
You know what I'm saying I wanted to get in
to the over first. I'm like, man, stop with the bullshit. Man. Man,
when you looked at it, you're like, man, I would
hit Okay, that's just all he is to me. Everybody,
every man's trying to hit all right. The man that's

(21:56):
waiting for marriage because he's a Goldhi man, I'm in
touch with God. When he get married. You know what
he wanted to do. He got married so we could
hit it. That's the number one reason. Look, that's for
me to stay in tune with God. I don't need
to hear it before, but I'm married so I can hear.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's really shocking that, like it has such a pull
on you that you're willing to like put it all
on the line, you know, like, motherfucker. Like you've seen
that cop who fucked that girl in the back seat
and got stuck in the cop car and had to
get let out, bro your whole life.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Dudes are willing to throw away their entire life for
five minutes of fucking.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
That's beyond mere consciousness. That is a fucking chemical addiction
type thing. Persons.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
It's just like you sorting your cocaine or or damn
sugar addiction or whatever else you got. But it's the
same thing. What's the train. That's that's why I feel
for to be sitting in there like, uh, folks going cheap.
I said, well, the number one way sure for you
not to cheat is to not put your situation, yourself
in a situation to where you would be along with

(23:09):
somebody for that to potentially happen. That's the number one
That's the number one way. If your asset at the house,
you ain't calling nobody over, it ain't gonna be in
the cheap okay. But if you put yourself into those
situations to where things get heated, but there's some stuff
in the back of your brain to just start shutting down.

(23:30):
You just thought you just latch on. It just is
what it is. You know, Folks try to demonize it
or Whateverybody's just like just a it's the way we're built.
Reproduce it. But you can't tell folks as folks want
you to reproduce. They're like, man, we need to have

(23:51):
more kids. And then they be telling folks, well you
got to go about it this way. I'm like, look, Bud,
you said they need to have more kids. If you
if you if you're talking about your two parent household
and y'all both have good stable incomes and oh my
got both, then then we're cooking. Okay, we'll be out

(24:12):
of folks right here in the next about two hundred years.
This is it. Most of the people are gonna be
born from, you know, some passionate sex in the backseat
of a car and they really don't care about each other.
That's that's that's where a lot of people are gonna
be spawned from, all right, or they're gonna be spone
in poor situations where people are having kids so they

(24:35):
can have somebody else work, you know, their farm or
whatever else. If you're talking about in these third world countries.
So this is what it is. You know, no harm,
no foul, but uh, you know the people out there
who you're sitting there and just and just bang on you,

(24:56):
just be like man, you ask be less than too, okay,
but be out there being out here acting like they
don't be out here looking and stuff. It's like the
one cheek and was like, oh, if your man looks
at another woman, then he's cheating on you. You should
get rid of him because he's not the man of
your dreams. I'm like.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Looking, If he don't look, he's probably a fagot.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Yeah, he's a closey fag man. Damn it's about I
ain't gay, that's bob, and I didn't.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I didn't go run her down and tackle her like
the uh you know, like the cheat out here in
the wild, you know, the cheetah when it run up
behind him and usually grab him right about right by
the butt off. You know what I'm saying. For get
sit in there. I didn't go do all that.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Well, I'm telling you one certainty, I don't even have
a doubt in my mind. Absolutely one percent of us
in our lineage sometime in the past, however many hundred
thousand years, has some rape in there. One hundred percent
of us are products of rape at some point in
our history. End of story. So, like I said before,

(26:07):
nature ain't gonna trust reproduction to something as fucking fickle
as goddamn mutual consent. Just I'm sorry, it just doesn't.
The universe doesn't ask permission.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Sorry, let's see that ship. I can't. I can't belave.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
It's like it's like they get consent.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
It's like it got enough consent, you know, what I'm
saying it was enough consent. I talked about it at
work today. What was it a? I was like, uh,
was it a sexual assault? Sexual harassment? I was like, look,
here's what the deal is. There's a certain age where
you're just you're actually walking around probably committing you know,

(26:52):
sexual assault, sexual harassment, right, Stanley, And this's both me
and and Win. I say, anywhere but starting to probably
about sex grade when you start getting interested, you know,
moving into seventh grade. You know, you go up to
the girls, you might grab a baby, grab a baby,
and oh stop, and then they grab you. You know
what I'm saying, You just grabbing. You don't even know

(27:14):
what you're really doing. You just you experiment. It's technically essay,
but I mean nobody went and told the teacher or
nothing about it. It's just it's just something that happened,
you know. So the consensual essay is what I call.
That's what we both consented to this this essay. So

(27:38):
I mean we understood what each other was doing. It
was no harm, no foul. Nobody got you know, tackled
and taken in the back and taking the manage. Yeah, yeah,
it ain't nobody getting that was nothing like that, But
everybody was just kind of interested in what was going on,
you know what I'm saying. So that's that, that was
your that's your entry level, at least when I was younger.

(28:00):
That may be different nowadays. There might be a little
bit more, uh, when we're keen on topics like this,
you know, but it was. Ain't nobody talk to you
about that back in the day, Yes, aint, No, ain't
nobody talk to you about it? No.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
I learned all about that from eighties horror movies. I'll
never forget Silent Night, Deadly Night four Sanna like done
goes to kill this check but before killing her, he
has to rip her shirt open and then he slits
her throat. And I'm like, they had to get them
kitties in there.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Man, say, I had it then to get the boobs
out for I take you out? All right? Isn't it
not the the classic intro to eighty slash or them
somebody fucking in the woods and they get killed. That's
like the classic entr.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, So did you see hard Eyes yet?

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Now? I know it's on necklace. I hadn't seen it yet.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it because I'm
interested in some cheese ball horror.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
The last one, the last was straight Thanksgiving. That's pretty
good for you're running the meal slasher movie.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I watched it, but I don't remember. Remind me which
one night was.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
That's the one where the dude got pissed because of
the folks who got killed in that uh in the
shopping shopping mall on Thanksgiving on a Black Friday. The
family the family opened up their store on Black Friday
and his kids got in and all of a sudden,
you know, it's a stampede. Folks got stomped on. Woman's

(29:49):
head got ran over by sho.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
I remember that. I remember that.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, so so you have Thanksgiving, so to the hard eyes,
and I think it's like an hour twenty minutes. That's
a good range for a slash of me. You know,
some of some of this most recent stuff, they've been
they've been they've been going on too long with it,
you know, extending it too far. I'm like, if you
want you a good a good horror movie is less

(30:20):
than an hour and a half. Okay, show me some folks,
show me some some some fodder for kills. Okay, we
got we got one person that we're interested in, this
the main character, all right, that's gonna be the victor,
all right, and then let's let's see some kills for
the for the last hour. That's its about about about

(30:42):
twenty thirty minutes of intro hour killing come shot credits,
you know, I mean, that's it. That's all you need
to do. This is a simple, simple formula. Simple formula.
But uh, I know some some people that have steered
away from it. I did see that that Sinners, but

(31:03):
they made over three hundred million worldwide is probably more
than that.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Now that's good. That's real good.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Now that's a Cooper h yeah, Cooper uh the uh
the Black Panther stuff for ye Marvel. Yeah yeah, so
so yeah, that's that's actually really good for for anything
horror related, because usually horror is something that's very niche.

(31:33):
They rarely do big numbers in theaters rarely.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, but they plan for the advance.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
They got to. But most of the time, their budgets
aren't crazy either either, you know, they don't. They don't
throw the kitchen sink at the budget. Say so, I
think I think it kind of evens out for him,
and I think they get more. They get more out
of it with after the after the theater, with it

(32:03):
being like a cult classic and following from there, you know,
because you know, they had these horror conventions and stuff
like that. Ton't know, I think they got a lot
of traction from now as far as that goes. But Mike,
you know, like, was it a twenty eight years twenty
eight years later is coming up? You know what I'm

(32:24):
saying with theatrical release, was it gonna make one hundred
and fifty million?

Speaker 2 (32:32):
I didn't even do that much.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, So I mean it's like you're talking about what
was the last one that people thought was good? Was Meghan?
It was Megan's box office Office. Yeah, Meghan. Now this
was the last one that folks, the folks were interested

(32:55):
in Meg with the with the Dog right. It made
one hundred and eighty million worldwide.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I'm not too big on the doll movies.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, but you know what his budget was. It's just crazy.
The budget was twelve million.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
See that's a winning formula. I forget where I fucking
heard this or read this, but years ago I read
that there was like a formula for Netflix, like if
you wanted to make a low budget film and get
it on Netflix, and you spent under two million dollars.
You were like guaranteed to make money. There was some
formula this guy was talking about, and so we was
spitting out all these cheesy horror movies. But yeah, all

(33:37):
this stuff is formula. You could put ten million in
get ten times your money out. That's a good that's
a good deal, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Oh man, it's a great deal. And it became really
popular with her dance and everything. I mean it was
so popular that they're making a Megan two point eight, right, Yeah,
so they're like, I mean it was like, okay, shoot,
we can make you know, ten times our budget on
this movie, Well why not make another one. That's why

(34:03):
you usually see more horror movies made, because they can
make them cheap and they'll get the money back at it.
I mean you're talking about what was it a Paranormal Activity?
Wasn't that the one? Yeah? I mean they may I
think that like a million. Oh I think it was
less than that. Oh much Paranormal activity. Yeah. Paranormal Activity

(34:32):
made one hundred and ninety four point two million dollars worldwide.
The budget was fifteen thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
No fifteen thousand.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
The budget was fifteen thousand dollars. That's excluding marketing.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
That's like, that's like buying your equipment. That's that's like
you bought a camera and an editor and a monitor.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Bo, you want to talk about You hit the big
time on that Super Team Petty and it made one
hundred and ninety four Fight Get make twenty of of
these things, you.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
And they did six or something.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, man, it's crazy, but you.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Shouldn't be allowed to make beyond five movies unless you're
John Wick. You shouldn't be able to do beyond five.
Five and you're done.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
What's great? What's scream on eight? They're about to be
on eight screaming.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Technically technically, Final Destination is a six one.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
I like Final Destination.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Because they got wild, crazy kills. It's just stuff be happening, man,
you know what I'm saying, My man, man take his
dentures out of his mouth. Missed the glass of water.
It falls beside a damn a light or something, and
somehow start it strikes the lighter lights of it sakes
the damn uh the clothes on fire. He goes to

(36:09):
try to put it out, slips on the damn the
because you think he hits the back of his head.
All that killed him. Now, that didn't kill him. But
for some reason, he's got a bowling ball sitting on
the damn counter in his day in his bathroom, and
there some pin goes and hits the bowl. Ball falls

(36:32):
on his face, princess his face, and it's just like,
damn man, you know what I'm saying, Just a chain
of events. Oh boy, what was a You see the
commercial on the on the newest one was my Man's
got a It breaks some glass, It goes in the
ice he puts into the cup and you're like, oh shit,
he's gonna drink that. But now something happens and he

(36:56):
dropped the ice on the ground, but the piece of
glass is sticking up and the dace steps on the
damn glass hits the trampoline. The rank goes and hits
the lawnmower. The lawnmower decides to take off like it's
a damn like it said Harley out there popping a wheelie,
lands on the man's face, cuts his face. It's like this,

(37:20):
So it's got crazy stuff like that. Now, the one
that the one that was least impressive I think, I
think was it final destination too, was to the one
where the where they were on the interstate. Yeah yeah, yeah,
uh huh yeah. Now the one where the where they

(37:45):
got in the wreck in the field and they had
the jaws of death trying to get the person out
of the damn out of the car, and my man
was resting his head on the damn the spike that
was sticking through the back of the get a see,
I'm like, move your head away from the spike. Every
bag went on fly. I see it. Oh my god.

(38:08):
I mean, now that was easy when I've seen that,
because the spike came through and went right pasting the
cit man that was closed. And now I'm gonna rest
my head on the spike. I'm like, I'm like, come on,
cuz we got that mean situational awareness, We'll say that's
not where I need to rest my head. Jaws of death.

(38:28):
I think. Once that happening, Damn the car somehow blew up.
Damn sent some shit over there and knocked the post out,
and the BARBERI fence went and cut a man in
three pieces. I'm like, and you see that's some shit
right there that you can't avoid. That's death's coming for

(38:49):
you and yours because you're not supposed to be alive.
That's what bloodlines is about. The premise of bloodlines is
that death has been going through and trying to kill
off all these people who weren't supposed to be born.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Interesting because they should have died earlier, because the parents
should have something.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah, like they're great great grandparents should have died, and
so it's just going through the family tree killing people.
And when you have a premonition, the premonition is for
you to get out, not for you to get everybody
else out.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
This is the premise of the premant issue. So the
people who get them, they're supposed to be the only
ones alive. That's why they get them. Death has chosen
them to stay alive. But if they get other folks
out in death like okay, well fuck you too. I
gave you a shot. That's cool, so now I got
to bust your so yeah, So that's the that's the

(39:48):
premise of it. That's what they figure out. And I
just I've seen that just from well I put a
comment it together from the from the clips that were
showing and uh what some people were talking about on
TikTok uh. So yeah, so yeah, that's a that's a
unique take on it because you know, you you always
thought they were just uh singular events, you know, but

(40:13):
it's actually tied to an overarching theme of where some
people were supposed to die and they did the depths
like oh ship I got, I mean I got to
clip y'all. So yeah, So horror movies, guys, that's that's
where you make your money at. I mean, look, man,
they're making stuff like man, we need to peel blood

(40:34):
and honey, you know what I'm saying. It's obvious that's
where you was it Death of a Unicorn where you
got the damn the Killer of Unicorns?

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yes, I saw that. I saw the trailer for that.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
That ship looks wild as hell. Uh, here we go Deathly.
We got Paul Rudd in it, so you know it's
gonna be spaef It's a spaef ass movie. But I'm
just letting you know, here we go, She's gonna be
spoof as hell. But that's okay, a good space movie,
you know, A waste the afternoon for you or at

(41:15):
least an hour and some change. Here we go. This
entire nature preserved was donated by the Leopolds. It's truly untouched.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
She is so hot. I would so fucking do her dirty.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Spot any big game on the way the fun was
that must be moose mating season or something. Onto you

(41:53):
the most magnificent thing. H Yeah, unicorns used to be
seeing these divine monsters because people fully believe that they
could heald it. Really anything. It's an opportunity, but immortalenting.

(42:13):
We have a moral imperative to harvest every last one.
Nails called it. There's no negotiating with monsters.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Is that that's out already?

Speaker 1 (42:48):
M yeah? Is it in the.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (42:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (42:54):
I think it's been out for a while. Was this
uh oh cool? Yeah, it's horror comedy. So it's it's
a sea fast movie.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
It looks cool, it looks fun. She's amazing, dude, you
got to see her. I watched that whole Wednesday series
just to watch her.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
So it's world okay, Yeah, so it was a It
came out in theaters on March twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
I can't believe this. Years they have almost half over.
We just got here here it is.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, it is. It didn't hang around for nobody. But
you know what I'm saying, I mean it, I mean
it came, it came, and and then halfway through and
she did it'd be damn Christmas right here shortly brouh.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
The Christmas season starts literally in like three months.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
It'll be like it'd be singing jingle bells and ship's your?
What's your? What's your? Oh?

Speaker 2 (44:04):
I like them old classics like like the Heart, the
Herald Angel and all that ship, all all those are.
And I think you got some Nat King Cole Christmas
stuff that was really good. Oh the Bad Religion Christmas

(44:26):
Album of course. Okay, okay, they did all those songs
punk rock style. What else? First Christmas movie is my
favorite Christmas movie, well besides die Hard, of course, is
fucking Crampis. The Crampus was such a great fucking movie.

(44:52):
I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
It was that.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Oh and what was that the one with Santa, the
badass Santa last year?

Speaker 1 (44:57):
That was cool? Yeah, I mean so so you so
you're you're walking in the winter window land type guy. Yeah, okay,
and I like me a little, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Yep, yep, oh you know, here's the thing. I like,
I really like Christmas. I'm not a Christian. I know
it's all bullshit. Ain't no Jesus or Santa Claus. But
and people do need to be forced to have this
kind of I hate to say it, because if we
didn't have holidays that forced us to do this kind
of stuff, we wouldn't ever have a day where we
were just nice to each other and try to you
know all that stuff. Right, So probably it's got to

(45:33):
be forced on us. But I just remember I had
like great Christmas is growing up my parents. It was
like clockwork, Christmas Eve, we go to my aunt's house,
who was on my dad's side. Next day we'd go
to my other aunt's house on my mom's side. You know,
it was a whole routine. It was the same thing
every year, and it was magical, and it was Christmas
lights everywhere. And I just remember that as being like,

(45:56):
you know, I still feel the way about Christmas that
kids feel about Christmas. It's great. And that's not even
about the gifts, because I don't get shit anymore. So,
but yeah, Christmas is cool, right.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
There ain't a lot of gifts really don't matter. They
matter when you're a kid, because you can't buy it here.
I mean that's the premise. When you kid, you got
no money, you have nothing, all right, So when you
get stuff, you're like, oh man, this is great because
most of the time you get told now, I mean

(46:31):
it's all good, you know, because toys and shit are expensive.
Mm hm you know, so you're trying to raise the family,
the toys didn't really matter.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
And it just depends on if you had a grandma
or grandparents that will buy a bunch of stuff. But
the older grandparents wouldn't do that. It's it's more of
a new grandparents type think, you know. So so like
my grandma like she won't buy that's Grandma's in the

(47:07):
area at that time. They won't. They won't buying their
grandbabies shit because they have like twenty grandbabies. I was like,
I mean, grandma was break most of the time. She
her husband was probably dead. She was living off of
what little bit of pension he had and some social
security and she probably could barely read. And the ain't

(47:32):
never really held a job besides you know, doing some
some some stuff around you know, the neighborhood, the community.
So but it was fine. Everybody loved Grandma. That's like
his grandma. If I love Grandma, they didn't loved her
because of what she gave. You know what I'm saying.

(47:53):
He just always knew Grandma be there to get you.
She'd be there to pick you. Huh. I mean that
was okay, but uh but yeah, the Christmas season to
be a punis for you know, we'll have to get
into that once again. That's usually when I started to

(48:16):
do my travel things Thanksgiving Christmas where I go back home.
So I kind of got back back to back moments
where I'm on the road actually because my girlfriend's birthdays
right before Thanksgiving and say, we usually do something this.
So yeah, yeah, I'm on the road a lot right
there at the end end of the year.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Well but let me make this really clear. At some
point in time in the future, you're gonna get on
a motherfucking airplane and you're gonna come meet us in person,
probably here in Colorado. That's gonna happen. I'm giving a
fuck you're afraid of airplanes or whatever. Yep, it's happening.
At some point. You've probably come. In July, I'll be

(48:54):
down at the Blowback Gallery for.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Man, what's the blue bag?

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Are they doing that fucking and wake up meet up
every year? Don in Peblo?

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Oh oh okay, yeah, I know that it's gonna have
to happen. I'm I'm calculating. That's so it's got to
be a calculation.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
It's not something that you can just rush into all
really knew, all right, I like to have a plan
of action. Okay, say and it requires that damn airplane.
That means i'mbout to get a damn real I D.
I ain't got a real ID.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
They had real I D ten years ago here in Colorado.
Like if you got a license in the last ten
years in Colorado. It's real dy. I didn't have a choice.
Not only that I can get it on my fucking phone,
which I refuse to do.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
In North Carolina, never switched it. You could, you could
get it, but you didn't have to get it.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
So it's putting everybody in in a federal database. It's
putting state information in a federal database. That's what the
whole point is. It's bullshit.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
They already got my database. You gave me my social
Security number, dog.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah, but these idiots have that on a computer that
was built in nineteen fifty seven. Your tax returns are
done on a computer built in nineteen sixty two. These
don't talk to each other, so to make it easy
for them, they want it all together in the same system.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
I was wondering that the whole time. I'm like, you
need a real idea. I'm like, you gave me my
damn social Security and I give me my Social Security number.
When I came out to William, it's like, what would
you like your number to be? That's all I mean.
It is like you already know who I am. It's
like shit, man, and.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
I don't understand how the Social Security number became the number.
It's supposed to be for your social security with holdings
in your paychecks, but it's used for everything. How to
become the backbone of everything because it's the only tracking
system they got. That's why they're doing all this reality
shit because they're tired. They're just tracking by Social They
want they want full on database of everybody.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
That's a great question. That's a great question. Huh.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
So, what's the what's the topic of the day today, Well.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Topic, Corey, it's the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. It
just got passed through the House by one vote. One vote. Uh,
I've got a couple. I've got a couple of clips
up here. Uh, go go ahead and go ahead and

(51:48):
say your face on the statutic bill, and I do
have a couple of clips.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Like shit, I'm just glad that I don't vote, and
I'm glad I don't pay taxes because I have zero
responsibility for anything that's going on with all this shit.
These motherfuckers. I don't know what happens when you become president.
They you just change everything you say you're gonna do.

(52:12):
But that's what they did. We are They didn't bake
into this fucking bill all those doge cuts, which is
fucked up. That's the most fucked up thing. And they're
gonna end up reallocating all that money just back to
other things, which is fucking nonsense. Which makes me again
reiterate why I don't pay taxes.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
We'll there be good. Well, we're gonna I got a
I got mister Massy at here first.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
So I like Thomas Massy. The fact that Trump is
picking on him as bullshit.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Speaking about when some of this stuff he is what
it is, ain't no doubt about it. But let's get
massy up here.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
The suit he say, Johnman from Kentucky's recognized for ninety seconds.

Speaker 6 (52:58):
I'd love to stand here and till the American people
we can cut your taxes and we can increase spending
and everything's going to be just fine. But I can't
do that because I'm here to deliver a dose of reality.
This bill dramatically increases deficits in the near term, but
promises our government will be fiscally responsible five years from now.

(53:19):
Where have we heard that before? How do you bind
a future Congress to these promises? This bill is a
debt bomb ticking. Congress can do funny math, fantasy math
if it wants, but bond investors don't.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
And this week they sent us a message.

Speaker 6 (53:35):
Moodies downgraded our credit rating, and the bond investors who
buy our debt finance.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Our debt demand in your note, twenty year note and
the thirty year note. What does this mean?

Speaker 6 (53:49):
Very soon the government will be paying sixteen thousand dollars
of interest interest alone per us family.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
And what are we telling them?

Speaker 6 (53:57):
Instead of taking care of that problem, We're gonna give
you a sixteen hundred dollars tax break under the taxing
and spending levels in this bill, we're going to rack
up the author say, twenty trillion dollars of new debt
over the next ten years. I'm telling you it's closer
to thirty trillion dollars of new debt in the next
ten years. Mister speaker. We're not rearranging deck chairs on

(54:20):
the Titanic tonight. We're putting coal in the boiler and
setting a course for the iceberg.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
If something is if something is beautiful, if something is beautiful,
you don't do it after midnight. I pose this villas expired, gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
That's the only person in our whole government.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yes, I'd probably say say I probably say, so, what
did that? What did I say? A while back? I
was like, if they were looking at you and they
were being honest, they would look at you and they

(55:09):
would say, there is absolutely no way that we can
make your life better. We have to spend into oblivion
hell the Arctic. We have to spend because that's what

(55:31):
we do. Because what we don't realize is that the
people that we pick are humans. And when I walk
around and I look at everybody else's finances, and there's
gonna be some people that's making some damn good money.
And I look at them and what are they? Broke

(55:51):
as fuck? They are? We've got people making millions of dollars.
Break it in you, Corey. They they look nice. They
got a lot of a lot of nice ship. Broke
as fuck. Nobody is physically responsible because it's not. It's

(56:13):
not a definite to be. You don't. You don't die
if you if you if you, uh, if you renig
on all your bills, now you might die if you
renig on your bill against like folks in the mob
or some some game. You know, they usually are not
as forgetting oh with not paying up. But as long

(56:37):
as we're gonna spend money on defense, you can, you can.
But the deficit will always go up. As though other
choice but to because all the black options. Let's see it.
Because what what do we hear? Every year, Corey? They

(57:00):
Pinabo lost eight hundred billion dollars this year? Have they
lost it? Eight hundred billion? Yes, pief, that's a big
number to pave. Yeah. Second, well.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Remember the day before nine to eleven, Rumsfeld announced two
point three trillion dollars that they couldn't account for. I
watched shortly, I mean, it was that way after that,
but it was a retrospective on that, an analysis of
what was going on in the Pentagon over the past
couple of years prior to that, and the video I
saw came to a tallly of twenty one trillion dollars

(57:40):
that were unaccounted for twenty one trillion dollars trillion, and
you want us to keep paying you like, fuck you.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
So it's just so, it's like the stuff is, the
money is always gonna get spent, and it's always gonna
be a deficit. Man, at this point in time, I'm
just wondering if if any of it even matters, because

(58:15):
if we look at it, hey, if we look at
it across the board, because almost every government on the
on the planet runs in a deficit, I'm not sure
how any of us are still doing anything like period.
It's obvious that whatever simulation we're in, it's just the

(58:38):
way it works. It don't really matter. We just keep
dumping the money in. Yeah, stuff goes up with folks,
I mean more or less, you'll still be able to eat,
and you'll be able to stay in some type of shacks.
You'll still fuck you know, so it'll be all good.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Yeah, that's the difference between knowing ten trillion and knowing
one hundred trillion. I gotta understand the difference. How does that? Well,
I know it has to do with the interests they
pay on the debt.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Right, alleged interest I don't even are we seeing these payments?
Who they be made to? Alleged payments? And I'm making
an alleged payment to somebody? What did they have? Because
they ain't that they ain't got thirty six trillion dollars
I don't think. Ain't said anybody's trading aires have it.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Nope. So although there are Saudi trillionaires, they just don't
talk about it.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Okay, some Saturday trillionaires. Okay, yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Riches, the genuine richest people in the world are in
the Middle East.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Okay, okay, but uh, you know, you always wonder you
look at that, that number is like, oh yeah, we
got to make payments on it. It's like, well, who
led you just suppose that thirty six trillion dollars over
the past? You know what it was it seventy years?

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:00:06):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
When? Is that when the Federal Reserve? Was it seven
years ago? Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
But yeah, but it probably went to overdrive when we
went off the gold standard, right right, which was a plot,
intentional plot to destroy us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Yeah, but it wasn't really Nixon. It was his handlers.
You know, Nixon rebelled against his Nixon rebelled against his
Jewish handlers, and he that's why they water gated him.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Gotcha, gotcha. So, I mean since that point in time
up until now, we've been just running deficit. And they
said this particular bill, it adds a new deficit money
to our current deficits. Well I'm like, well, yeah, because
every time y'all, every time y'all get together, you know,

(01:00:58):
you talk about having to raise debt ceiling because you
technically have the money. Because the government's not a business
and it didn't have a product, so it has no
other choice but to run into difference because all the

(01:01:20):
stuff that it buys, and look just just looking from
the outside end, all this stuff's not vetted. They ain't
no telling how many scams get ran through there on
the daily where folks are paying five thousand dollars for
a damn bag of boats, you know what I'm saying.
I mean like that, I mean, there was the two

(01:01:45):
women that got busted. I think they were charging like
nine hundred and something dollars for like a boat, and
they did that for like ten years, and I was like, Yeah,
did nobody pick up on this. It's a teen years.
They made one mistake. I've heard got them called.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
I've heard all kinds of stories about people just submitting
invoices to the government and then they just get paid,
like whether you did anything or not, they have no
way to verify one or the other.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
So it's like crazy. So it's just I mean, you're
just dealing with people. Man now allegedly just has some
tax cuts. But I keep hearing that it's tax cuts
for the wealthy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Well they say that, but it's tax cuts for everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
And I'm just like the wealthy. The wealthy made the
tax cake. So the wealthy will always pay the least
amount of taxes because they park money in assets, which
the tax code allows you to do without penalization. They

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park them in access and assets they borrow against their assets.
Debt is tax free because that's what the world runs on.
It's funny money and debt. Let's see it. That's what
we run on, Okay, because if we just ran on
the sweat of our brow. Our population would be a

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whole lot less. Okay, they just ran on sweat of
the brow, all right, our population will be decreased dramatically. Now, Corey,
I've got another clip up here. This is a we
gotta singing in. They're they're they're given there. Oh no, MSNBC,

(01:03:38):
I'm sorry they're given that take on this particular bill
and letting you know how this is going to really
hurt the bottom. They're talking about losing eight hundred dollars.
It's like, well, I mean, I don't think the bottom
really pays anything anyway. But it's all good.

Speaker 7 (01:03:54):
So let's let's turn out a former Treasury official and
morning Joe Economic and Steve Ratner. He's got charts on
the potential impact of this huge legislation.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Steve, good morning.

Speaker 7 (01:04:06):
So let's talk about the deficit and what this House
bill if it does make its way through, if the Senate,
which has said it's not going to vote many Republicans
for this, it's just too big.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
But if it does go through, what would it do
to the deficit.

Speaker 8 (01:04:19):
Yeah, as you can imagine, giving it what Ali just
went through and all the lists of things that they're doing.
The impact on the deficit is pretty significant. Let's just
put some numbers on some of the cuts. First, the
extension of the personal income tax reductions that were made
during the twenty seventeen bill and are set to expire
candidate year two point two trillion dollars over ten years,

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raising the standard deduction one point three trillion, the child
tax credit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Eight hundred billion.

Speaker 8 (01:04:46):
And then you get into Trump's campaign promises no tax
out overtime, Carl Loan's interest in tips two hundred billion,
increasing defense spending. This is his attempt to take Social
Security taxes away from seniors so they don't have to
pay them by giving them a special deduction. And then
you get into the cuts, the student loan changes, the
climate funds, and Medicaid seven hundred billion dollars of medicaid cuts.

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So what does that do to the deficit? Here is
the baseline deficit. So even without this tax bill, the
deficit was essentially going to keep going up over the
next ten years, maybe come down a little bit at
the very end, but essentially up. Then you add in
the tax bill that we just talked about, including the
fact that they've played the same gimmick they played in
twenty seventeen setting up some of these things to expire,

(01:05:31):
and that would make the deficit impact higher, but not
that not as high as if you made all this
stuff permanent. The record of Congress, this stuff almost always
gets made permanent, and so somewhere along in here they
will make this permanent and will end up on this line.
And this line is something like twenty five trillion dollars
of additional debt. Now, I do want to say that

(01:05:52):
the other thing that happened yesterday, not as visible and
consequential as these House votes, is the fact that the
Treasury yields when I'm very very sharply yes, So the
Treasure sold some.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Twenty year debt. It didn't go well.

Speaker 8 (01:06:04):
The thirty year Treasury bond is now about five percent.
What does that mean that couldn't well, I mean tired
rates for mortgage originators and things like that. But what
it also means is potentially the bond market's starting to say,
twenty five potentially twenty five trillion dollars of new debt
over the next ten years is more than we can

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absorb comfortably.

Speaker 9 (01:06:26):
Yes, Steve, it can't be overstated the importance of the
bond market potentially weighing in here.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Let's turn to your second for you. How privy are
you to the bond market? Not very okay, I didn't know.
I didn't know if you had any insights. And then
I hear a whole lot of people talking about the
bond market. If I'm created best when people buy the
government's day of correct, Yes, okay, yes, So technically you

(01:06:56):
can buy treasury bios and things like that. So technically
you given the government alone, right, and you get a
certain amount of interest back on this moment that you
have given the government.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
You see. I think part of the thing that's salvageable
about all the situation is that nobody's cashing out all
the debt at once, so you never are impacted by like,
no one's ever like give me thirty trillion, right, it's
little bits and pieces, you know, millions here, maybe a
couple billion if you're like a business or a government
that you're dealing in bonds. But the bonds that gets

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the bonds that they have to pay back and pay
the interest on the interest is the real killer there.
Paying the stuff out in the short term is not
really a problem, but the long term interest that builds up,
because what happens when they start paying more than a
trillion a year for interest? That's bad. And that's where
we're at right now. Actually, so yeah, we're at a trade.
If they can do it with the heavy money people,

(01:07:50):
why don't they just do some funny money stuff to
where it balances the books?

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Just wipe it out. Yeah, thirty six straight nine ain't
thirty six straight? So ho, it's just it's nothing. So
what you mean it's nothing? There isn't a dip, there
is a dyps, it's all. It's all just on a

(01:08:15):
computer string. Right. Can I just do control all of
the league, reboot the system? Huh? There it is. Hey,
we Bama's baby. This is a Bama's budget. Now we
just need to hit the right buttons on a computer.

Speaker 9 (01:08:32):
Tring but but starking and telling tax cuts for the
wealthy spending cuts for the poor.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:08:39):
Ali alluded to this as well. But let's put some
numbers on this. If you're in the top twenty for
son of Americans, you're gonna get rough.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
No, Corey, here's what I'll say. I think it's always
a whot when these motherfuckers on damn MSNBCCN and all
this stuff's talking out ah the poor. I'm like, y'all
be signing contracts with means and dollars a year. I'm like,
those poor poor people, you know what I'm saying, Like,

(01:09:08):
I won't show you them a dollar or two. You know,
whenever somebody tells about oh man, I just I feel
so bad for the poor people. I'm like, well, you know,
you just made you have three million dollars last year.
How much you think you want to help somebody out
in the area. I don't never see your help in hand, Corey.
When I'm looking, I'm looking at somebody extend to help

(01:09:30):
in hand, but I don't ever see it.

Speaker 8 (01:09:33):
Roughly a three point seven percent increase in your in
your after tax income really all from these tax cuts.
But if you go all the way to the bottom,
and everything in between essentially leads you to the bottom.
If you're in the bottom twenty percent, you actually lose
eight hundred dollars. Why do you lose eight hundred dollars.
You get a very small tax cut, and you get

(01:09:54):
a very large cut in Medicaid and these other benefits
that we were just talking about that affects twenty percent,
just proportionally. So this is a highly regressive bill that
essentially favors the wealthy, doesn't do much for the middle.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Class, and hurts the poor.

Speaker 8 (01:10:10):
And then if you want to see this in stark,
uh and stark.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Hang on a second, hang on, if we simply eliminate
the tax cuts, he's including potential cuts and benefits for
medicaid and lumping it in with the poor when the
vast majority of people in this country, you're not a medicaid.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Right, you know, legal illegals.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Medicaid right, old people and poor people get it. I
don't even qualify and I'm broke as a joke, so right,
it's fucking ridiculous. So what he's saying here is just
not honest. And those tax don't apply to everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Right, right, So it's so when they say that they're
not getting Medicare and Medicaid all they're cutting it out.
I was like, well, I think what they were putting
it out for is for the illegal people, because they
were putting the illegal people on it, oh, Medicare Medicaid right,
which I don't know, I don't know how that was

(01:11:08):
how that was a thing anyway, Gig you said it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
They snapped their fingers.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
You know, yeah, you do millions, But we can't snap
our fingers and get rid of dat. I'm trying to
figure this thing again. You know, we won't figure that
one day.

Speaker 8 (01:11:26):
It's for people making over five hundred thousand dollars a year,
which is what President roughly where President Biden was proposing,
it would save one point one trillion dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
That happens to me, just.

Speaker 8 (01:11:36):
Slightly more than the Medicaid cuts and the food stamps
or snap cuts, if you will put together. So, if
we simply eliminated these tax cuts, we could eliminate these
budget cuts on these poor people and end up from
a budget point of view in the same place.

Speaker 9 (01:11:53):
And Steve, let's turn to your third chart there, tell
us about the impact that this bill would leave on
those with insurance.

Speaker 8 (01:12:00):
Yeah, so again, as Ali alluded to the budget cuts
Medicaid in a variety of different ways. Some of it
gets complicated. I'm not going to get all the details,
but the biggest piece of it is the work requirements,
requiring people to i think, perform eighty hours, work eighty hours,
or perform eighty hours of community service.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
At least a month.

Speaker 8 (01:12:19):
Things like Ali mentioned, also checking Medicaid eligibility more frequently
is making it difficult more difficult for the states to
get the Medicaid funds they're getting now. And then some
bid near rules that made it easier to sign up
for Medicaid repealing those, so it becomes harder to sign
up for Medicaid.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
So what does that happen?

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
What does that mean?

Speaker 8 (01:12:39):
As Ali said, the estimates are eight point six million
Americans losing their health insurance. And what's interesting about this
chart is if you go back over here, before Obamacare
went into effect, when we had over forty five million
uninsured Americans, it went down down, down, down down. In
here was Trump one point zero with his first effort
to impose work requirements on me KID recipient. So some

(01:13:01):
people became uninsured, down down, down again. And now we're
looking at taking it back up here and essentially reversing
something like ten years of progress in having fewer and
fewer Americans without medical coverage.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Ringing again to day a Madico coverage way. Medical coverage
is a stay.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Yes, I've been quite fortunate with medical coverage. I don't
have any. I haven't had any since I left police work.
In twenty fourteen, I've been very fortunate. I haven't had
a real urgent need to go to a doctor, except, oh,
I'll tell you this much. Over the past year, I
had a very severe diverticular bleed in my colon.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Okay, very bad.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
I'm talking like for the first like six or seven months,
it was like I was dropping like a cup of
blood a day. Finally, after a year, it fucking healed.
But I would have liked to go on to get
checked out, because that's aught I had cancer for like
goddamn six to eight months. M hmm, for real, I

(01:14:09):
don't everything kind of returned back to normal. That doesn't
happen with cancer, thank god, But it would be very
nice for me to be able to get checked out.
And for me to go and get a colonoscopy would
have cost me somewhere in the neighborhood out of pocket,
right off the bath, three to four thousand dollars. Total bullshit,
total bullshit. I don't even give a fuck. I just
there are these people out there who believe that if
you just tell yourself you're okay, you're okay, and your

(01:14:31):
body will follow. So that's what it's what I do.
I'm fine.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Hey, there you go. Makes sense to me. It's like
you're good right your hair, I'm good? Okay, well good
now I'll know you be here. Matter say, let me
let me look at you. Just see every all sculdy Okay, okay.

(01:15:02):
So yet average cosse to colonosy twenty four hundred and
twelve dollars in the US. So it tells me where
I'm at Mauth, Carolina. Average cost is thirty two dollars. Okay,
and you can think about Okay, so I did have
to do that. But would I pay a month in

(01:15:23):
healthy insurance four hundred dollars?

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
How often you use it that often?

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Huh? Yeah, I've used it a few times. So I
gotten a MRI, which urge you care? I don't know.
I mean I got a few drugs, not a whole lot,
to be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
So insurance works by you pay a bunch of money
and then you don't use it and somebody else does.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Yes. Yeah, so you got that or you got the
other option. Man, if I'd have known this earlier, I
probably would have did this. But it started like a
they got the HSA.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
That sounds like a biggest scam ever.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Well, Okay, so what it doesn't matter for you because
you don't pay taxes anyway. But technically it is triple
it's got triple tax advantage. So you got a tax advantage. Now, uh,
they say triple thas I'm trying to think about how
it worked. Anyway. You can take it off your off

(01:16:45):
your income now, so I think you can put like
forty two hundred dollars into a year, so that forty
two hundred dollars is non taxable, uh, is taken off
of your the amount that you made that year. Okay,
and then you can actually take that money and put
it into stocks or bonds and have it grow tax free,

(01:17:08):
and then you pull from it tax free. That's triple
tax advantage. Yes, so yeah, triple tax advantage. Now it's
supposed to be for healthcare needs. So what people do
is that they put the money in there anytime they
have some type of health care needs, they just pay
for it out of pocket. Now this is somebody who's
doing okay, but they pay for out of pocket. And

(01:17:31):
then once they keep all the receipts and then once
they get older and they're able to actually tap into
the account, they just show the receipts and say hey,
I did this, I did that, and then they can
pull the money out of tax free.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
That's a bunch of bullshit. I'll tell you why. You're
just taking your money out of your paycheck, giving it
to somebody, and then getting permission to use it later on.
Go fuck yourself. I'm sorry. I'm not diabbling four one
ks or none of the shit where they take my money,
they make money off my money while they're holding it,
and then they give it back to me with like
a fraction of a fraction of a percent of interest
twenty years from now. That's what I gotta say about

(01:18:10):
all that. It's total fucking scam. If you got a
four oh one K, get the fuck out of that
shit and go buy some goddamn bitcoin.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Maybe they don't feel comfortable, I'll give a fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Bitcoin's gone from pennies to one hundred and eleven thousand dollars.
It's the single most appreciated asset in human history and
it's not even not even done yet. You're gonna see
the ten to twenty million dollar bitcoin in your lifetime.
It's happened. It's gonna happen, period twenty It's got no cap,

(01:18:44):
it's got no top. Its can absorb every fucking system
on planet Earth. It literally can absorb every financial system
and become worth a trillion dollars a coin. But you know,
we're talking a long time down the road.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
All right, Hopefully I'll be gone by the time you
get to a trillion dollar coin. Man. Don't don't let
my old ass still be hanging around here. Okay, I
mean that's just all there is to it. Uh. But yes,
so so so the big beautiful bill, it's not all
the way three. It still has to gave three. Uh,
what's that Congress.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
It's all right, Senate.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
I think the House passes. Let's say I'll go through Congress.
Of course Trump would sign the bill that have made
it through that, so they got to get their votes there. Uh.
They had the no tax on tips, no tax on overtime,
which the overtime thing, there's a certain way that they
do it as far as the money goes. Uh. And
I think correct, no tax on Social Security.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
I think, what's a tip? If someone were to send
us ten bucks on like buy me a coffee right now,
that's a tip, right, that's not tax, that's tax free.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
I would believe so yes, m hmm, yeah, yeah, so
I believe that would be the premise of it. Any
any any tips. So and I want to say social
Security as well. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Yeah, yeah, so, which it didn't never makes any sense
to me how you were giving somebody social Security. And
I said, hold on a second, now, ain't you kind
of giving them money that they paid in It's like, well,
we still need to take it, take a little bit

(01:20:25):
of the money we paid. That doesn't make any sense,
I mean at all. So why would you just give
me the money and then not have anything up there
about taxes at all? So that's just a chick. But no,
you still technically need to file a tax return for
your Social Security which sounds crazy, you know what I'm saying.

(01:20:52):
When you say it out loud, you're like, okay, yeah, so, uh,
there's a there's some people on both sides of the aisle,
of course. Uh, it will raise the dead ceiling, which
we talked about that the dead ceiling was gonna be
raised regardless, and and so we'll see how it works out.

(01:21:13):
It's like it's gonna be a tax cut for most people,
and so that that'll be a good thing, more discretionary income.
But uh, that's still not gonna fix some of the
some of the substantial problems that we have as far
as our two main things, which is trud and shelter,

(01:21:35):
which they don't seem to be going back towards the
affordability side at all.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Let's just say that, well, that's that would be a
natural response to economic conditions. So that's just got it.
That just takes time. But they don't ever lower prices
once they raise them. Well see, I feel like a
hypocrites saying that, because clear as fuck when they fucking
when all that inflation super hit hard. But under Biden
and like I would go to the grocery store and
the cans of dog food I would buy for a

(01:22:02):
dollar eighty nine got up to be like two thirty nine.
Those cans are back down at a dollar eighty nine.
So I don't know how that happened or I'm shocked
that the price is returned, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
So right right, yeah, the only thing that I've seen
come down the price is TVs. Say about DV with TV,
now you really kind of want a new TV, they
about put it in your bud hey man, take it.
Hey man, think TV's but I mean they about like

(01:22:40):
bive rolls of toilet paper. Now, it's just like what
you did this weekend. I went by the TV. What
you get? Oh, I got a sixty five inch Man,
the must been really experienced. It's two hundred and fifty dollars.
I think it's just like that. I mean sixty five
inch four K got the apps right on it. I
mean the two fifty some bitches for like fifteen hundred dollars,

(01:23:04):
not that long of that. Yeah, Like it's insane. And
I'm like, okay, So y'all managed you get TV prices down.
I mean y'all can't get none of this other shit down.
It's like, nah, we don't know how to do that.
I'm like, okay, thank you, Hey gotchall see the game
you plan. I see the game you plan. But yeah,

(01:23:25):
we'll see. We'll see how this this big, beautiful bill
works out. For people out there who are in the system,
as far as paying taxes, you should this this uh
this go around. See that number come down. So that's
always a welcome sight. And for the people who don't pay,

(01:23:48):
then your number will stay the same. So unfortunately you
don't get to reap the benefits of this big, beautiful bill.
But that's all good. It's all good. So we appreciate.
We're gonna let Corey get get him some risk, you know,
try to get whale for Day zero Sunday. Make sure

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Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Is it the twenty fifth? Oh shit? Okay, all right, yeah,
it's a day zero because I gotta do on all.
I was trying to figure my dates because I got
booked to talk at the JFK Birthday conference on Monday,
so that should be cool.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
That was on Monday, okay, okay, yo Memorial Day? Okay,
that is that gonna be live streaming or anything?

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Yeah, y'all buy tickets and stuff. I don't have any
control over any of that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
Ship Okay. I didn't know if they were live streaming
like the YouTube or yeah or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
They're doing it somewhere through I think through their website
and it's like eleven bucks a ticket or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Oh okay, so you have to buy a ticket on
the witch, right, got you to watch, okay, okay, son
don't have.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
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is fine on KIV fuck.

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thirds done. My new book I've been working on is
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Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
The end of the year, in the year probably, No,
I'm talking like next month. Oh shit, okay, so this
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Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
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