S2 Ep.10 - Making God the CEO of your Life and Business with Pastor Tiffany P. Sowah - Inside The Wedding Planner's Mind

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Inside the Wedding Planner's Mind with Irene Tyndale,
Chief Event Officer of Irene Tyndale Weddings and Events. All right,
missus Tyndale, let's get to it.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome back to Inside the Wedding Planner's Mind. I'm your host,
Irene Tyndale, and today's episode is one that has been
on my heart for a long time. Joining me is
someone who has deeply impacted my life, both personally, spiritually
and professionally, Pastor Tiffany Soa. She's a CEO of T
three Diversity Solutions ELC and the founder of Mornings with

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God Ministry. She's a powerhouse of wisdom, a prayer warrior,
and a purpose driven leader. And over the past six years,
Pastor Tiffany has poured into me in ways I can't
even fully explain. Always reminded me that God is not
just present in my personal life, but that He wants
to be the CEO of my business too. And in

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today's conversation, we're diving into what it means to run
your business, was God at the center and how prayer,
obedience and spiritual alignment can completely shift the way we lead, serve,
and grow So whether you're a planner, a creative, or
just someone navigating the entrepreneurial journey with faith, this episode
will bless you. Hey Pastor Tiffany, Hello, Hello, thank you

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so much for having me.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Thank you, thank you so very much for having me.
I'm honored to be here.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
I love the introduction because.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Our journey has been quite the journey in such a
great way and in a way that I never could
have anticipated or expected.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
But I'm super grateful for I know.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
And it's funny because you all, many of you me
and men that note, But I talk about her all
the time when I'm coaching and teaching and all that
kind of stuff, and people ask me questions and I
was like, she was an event planner. She was one
of the first event planners that I found and followed.
And I remember, you know, grabbing all her freebies and
all her twenty dollars and thirty dollars resources, and I
was like, Okay, one day I'm going to coach with her.

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And I remember your story about when you were laid
off how you paid for your first coach, and you
were like, girl, that was that was most of my
unemployment check. And I'll remember the first time I coached
with you, the cost of that, I was like, ooh,
and now I laughed thinking about how much we spend
really on, like how much I've spent.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
On right, it was pennies compared to what we pay now.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
All right, it felt like a lot at the time,
but it was really Sis.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
You listen and even when I'm going through budget doing
budget spreadsheets with my coaching clients and they're like, yeah, Mike,
expenses are two hundred, and I was like, Sis, I
missed those days. Mine has a comma end it, y'all,
Like it doesn't not saying that's a brag, but there's
some days I'm like, there was a lot of money
in the accounting to pyro Hit. There's certain times of

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the year and my team earns every bit of it,
but there's certain times of the year I'm like, man,
it feels good to see you know, I use Gusto
and it feels good to see little you do her thing.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
But I'm just like that money is gone.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
But yeah, compared to you know, when when you first
do you're like, oh, man, you know, whether it's fifty
dolls one hundred and fifty dolls, you're like, oh, this
is a lot. And then you know, the more you grow,
the more you're you know, what you invest grow. So, yeah,
we've had a great journey. And you are a household name.
Everybody knows you are family.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
I do. I love your family.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
So I always like to ask all of our guests,
what is your origin story?

Speaker 5 (03:27):
So how did you journey?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
You know, like, how did your journey begin from event
planning to you know, leading and business coaching and now ministry.
Like now you're like a pastor and you're in leadership
and like what's that journey?

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Like? Yeah, yeah, so it's been a beautiful journey.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
I'm over here kind of laughing at myself because I'm
smiling so hard my cheek's hurt.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
I'm just I'm this has just been It's been a
beautiful journey. And I'm very proud of you as well
on what you're doing with your podcast. So I'm trying
to relax my cheeks a little bit.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Fuck it sucks, but I the journey has been a
long one. I started in event planning as a teenager.
There was just a knack that I had for event
planning and just organizing my friends, whether it was something

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as small as getting a group of friends together and
coordinating times and location and what the restaurant was, and
then you know, eventually planning like these birthdays, celebrations and
different things like that. Uh, coordinating for other people and
then also for myself. That was where I kind of

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got started, and that that event planning bug first bit me,
And that was in my teenage years.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
And then by the time I got.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
To college, I wanted to uh at least intern with
wedding planner or an event planner and learn more about
the industry. Event planning at that time had been something
that was always in the.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Background of my story. I thought that I wanted to
be an attorney.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
I went to undergrad. My undergrad degree is in criminal justice.
I made a lot of traction in terms of building
a really strong network in the legal field. Got a
job straight out of college, was never without one until
I switched industries.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Right was never without right.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Doing the legal thing, and that was really a blessing
to me. But I always had this interest for event
planning that was always just kind of laced in the background,
and I did different things. I remember working as a
waiter for a catering company. I worked in restaurants and hospitality.

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So this space of just planning in general, it's always
been a thread through my life. Now I'm gonna put
a pin in that because I'm gonna bring it back
with something that God literally just laid on my heart.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
I want to.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Say one day this week. So I did that, graduated
with my degree. My school did not have I actually
wanted to have a minor an event planning, but.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
They didn't offer that.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
So I got a minor in public relations, which was
like the closest thing right upual we've been planning that
my university offered at the time. So I got that
public relations minor and graduated, and again I went straight
into my primary career. But in the background, I would
have friends and family who were asking.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Me, you know, would you plan for me? Would you
do this? Would you do that? Right, I was planning
a lot in my church.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
So everywhere that I went, even on one of my
jobs in the legal field, when they found out that
I could plan events like well can you do the
employee and like staff appreciation and planning.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Baby showers, that happened pretty.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Much everywhere that I went that I always ended up
on like the employee appreciation or events team, even in
corporate so it was always there. But you know, I
did that kind of in the background all the way
through twenty twelve.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Now, it was in twenty.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Twelve that I heard a message from my former pastor,
pastor Kean Jerome out of Philadelphia. I heard a message
and this was the first time that I had ever
heard it preached about passion and purpose and how you
can monetize or basically make money doing the thing that

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you are passionate about and that you are purpose to.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Do right, And I was like, wow, this was like
a revolutionary message. I know, now in twenty twenty five,
you know, everybody.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Is talking about it, but this again was in twenty twelve.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
And I had never heard anyone, you know, really talking
about this, and certainly not in the church and across
the pulpit, right.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
So I remember hearing that message, and I want to
say it was that day, that Sunday. I believe that
January fifteenth that year was a Sunday.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
It may have been a Monday, but either that day or.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Like the next day, I went home and formalized my
business and that's where to the te.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Events was born.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Now again I had been doing event planning at that point. Oh,
I had been doing it for well over five years,
maybe eight, you know, seven or eight years, I'm.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Sorry, six or seven years.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
So I you know, went I started that business and
you know, took that journey. I did not have access
to a coach like myself during those times, again a
decade and a half ago. In order to have a
business coach, you had to pay thousands of dollars to

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sit in a room with hundreds of other people to
all hear the same general information.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
And then if you wanted one on.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
One time, it was gonna be tens of thousands of
dollars to sit with that person right to learn what
you needed specifically for your business.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
And I just I didn't have it right. Like I
was fresh out of college.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
You know, this is when a good salary was forty
thousand dollars a year, Like that was a good salary, right,
or you know, a pretty pretty okay salary for a
recent college grad. And I just I was like, I
only make tens of thousands in a year.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
I'm god, I can't say that.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
You know, you can, for you have last salary y'all.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Literally my annual salary I'm fresh out of college, I'm
still navigating, you know, how to be an adult and
paid bills on time. So I did that. So I
started the business and there was a woman that you know,
I'm still connected to today, but she I remember posting
on social media like, man, I just wish that I

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had somebody that can help me with like the basics.
She responded. We ended up sitting down a couple of times,
and you know, she helped me, you know, make sure
everything was formalized and you.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Know, told me some of the basics. But that was
really as far as.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
She could take me because at the time, she was
still working a full time job and I was looking
to possibly.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Make this full time, you know, my business full.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Time, even though I had no idea what that inteled.
So I, you know, would go on to have you know,
one business coach and then another business coach, and each
coach and mentor kind of helped me to go to
the next level. And I will say that God always
provided who I needed in every level, in every stage
of my journey, so they, you know, they helped me along.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
And then I want to say, maybe in twenty fourteen,
twenty fifteen, it.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Was like the wills were finally taken off, and I was,
you know, left to really apply everything that I had
learned over the past uh you know, three two or
three years, and that's when I started consulting other people.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
So that's how I went into consulting.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
So I had done event planning, built up a successful
event planning company. We were doing events all over the
United States. It started off like in the Northeast, but
we eventually moved to all over the United States. We
worked for some of your favorite bridal brands. We worked with,
you know, some of the best bridal salon's wedding gowns

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and all of those sorts of things. We've done all
types of things right that we had, you know, in
my event planning experience. And people were coming to me.
I was very young when I started my business. The
older I get, the younger the more I realized, like
how young I really was. So I was very young
when I started my business. But people would come to
me and be like, how.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Did you do this? Again, there weren't a lot.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Of young African American women who were teaching other people
how to do what they had been able to do
successfully right and certainly not making it accessible in that
I don't need you to pay me ten thousand dollars
to get this, you know, ten thousand dollars for a
one time check in to get this, you know. And
so I started consulting, and it was one of my

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business coaches who said, like, you need to formalize this, like.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
You need to make this into a thing.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Like, yes, you will have to the t event, but
you also need some sort of coaching arm. And that's
where the Wedding Planner's Academy was born. And eventually I
changed that name to the Purpose Seekers Academy. Little shameless plug,
purpose Secrets Academy is coming back.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
New focus, new all of those things.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
But I, uh, you know, changed it to the purpose
Seeker Academy because there were people outside of the wedding
industry and this industry that wanted the knowledge that I
had and who needed help.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
So I made it into that and then I would
go on, you know.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
For the next couple of years, and eventually, in twenty eighteen,
the Lord called me out of event planning full time
and as the main.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Thing and into consulting full time.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
That was a major blessing, and within one year I
got an opportunity where I learned about government and corporate contracting. Now, again,
thanks being to God, I did not niche myself down
so much.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Right, because this was my purpose, Right, This is what
God had for me, is that I didn't need to niche.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Down so much in my consulting because when the opportunity
came to enter into government, corporating, university contracting in twenty nineteen,
my business and my clientele already reflected that I could
work with any type of client, right, And that came
at the right time. Literally at twenty nineteen, you know,

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I enter into that to the contracting space, twenty twenty happens,
and though twenty twenty was a really rough year, my
business grew exponentially. The consulting firm grew exponentially between twenty
nineteen and like twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Two, right, like year over year was booming. So you
know I did that. And again in my consulting, I was.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Still planning, so I would do business retreats, I would
you know, coordinate all of these events for business owners.
And that event planning piece never went away. And the
other thread that has always run.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Through the background of this is ministry.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Right, and it's interesting to see how this was the
revelation that the Lord gave me, like within this past week,
is that literally nothing is wasted, nothing is wasted, and
that there is even the consulting piece. What I just
mentioned about purpose Seakers Academy coming back, and I know
we're not you know, here to talk about that, but

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the ministry piece is going to be like.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
The primary piece.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
But I'm able to consult right in that space because
of my experience with consulting, right, So I did that.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
So I moved.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Into the contracting space, but I would still help plan
events and all of that.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
And then it was actually the.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Contracting space that I started to hear from clients that
what you're doing feels like ministry.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
And I mean thefer people who are not believers.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
These are people.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Who openly practiced like New Age practices.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
I'm not really religious.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
I mean like very clear, they're very clear about their beliefs, right, and.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Very public about their beliefs.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
And they.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
You know, would say like, this feels like ministry, like
they're speaking to my soul, you're speaking.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
To my spirit. This feels like business therapy, and you know,
went on and did that for a couple of years
and it was.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
In twenty twenty three that the Lord told me of
in October of twenty twenty three that the Lord told
me it was time to make ministry the main thing.
It had always been there, but literally, it had always.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Played second fiddle to everything else. Now I had been
licensed as a minister.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
In twenty twenty, I had been operating and leading the
ministry that I lead today.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
It's ten years old.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
So again, my business started in twenty twelve and the
ministry started in twenty fifteen. Right, so these things have
always existed at the same time. But the Lord finally
told me, you know, it's time to make ministry the
main thing. And I told the Lord, but how am
I gonna pay my bills?

Speaker 4 (16:21):
I got questions? Right. Literally, we had.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Hit ay, we had hit a rough patch in business,
and you know, this is how business goes, and that closed.
So we had hit a rough patch in business financially,
and I'm looking at the look and I'm like, this
certainly can't be the time that you're telling me to
make ministry to it.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Like, let me cli my ears.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
God, listen to my husband, hoping that he would be
the voice of reason and say like, now we can't
afford to do that right now. That fan looked at
me with a straight face. I mean he barely let
me get the rest of the words out. Okay, unwavering
didn't flinch and said, whatever the Lord said is what
we're gonna do.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
I was like, dag gone, you were supposed to get
me out. You were supposed to be the one to
be like, let's think about it myself.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
That again.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
And pray your answer was too quick.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Literally, was like if this is what the Lord is saying, like,
this is what we're gonna do.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
And yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Ever since then, ministry has been the main thing. Still
using that a dead planning piece because I am, uh,
you know, planning events for the ministry, very excited to
wrap that up, you know, really take that to the
next level.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
It's so many things that are coming. I'm not gonna
get ahead.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Of myself so exactly.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
But that's my origin story and how I moved from
you know, having no idea or understanding of purpose fashion
and profit to actively being in ministry and ministry being
the main thing.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
And I really love that for me.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yep, I love that you heard that message from your
passion and you were like, wait, I have a passion
for this. It's personally, you know, I have a purpose,
like God has a purpose for me.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
I have a passion for it.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
I'm good at it, and I can make a profit
out of it. And I tell people all the time,
I'm like, you know, the proverb is thirty one woman.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
She's a bad chick, like lett me to tell you.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Like people look at her like, oh, well I have
to like they find it stressful, like, oh, we have
to live up to this. I'm like, well, nobody's telling
you to be exactly like her. Like I tell God
all the time, I cannot wake up before everybody else
wakes up, and then I still dark out.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Like that's just not my ministry, right.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
But she was a business owner, she ran her house,
she made I mean, she made money. It wasn't like
she wasn't. So I was like, if you look at it,
like you could do what you love to do and
make some money out of it. And I think it's
it's great that it is a conversation. And the other
thing that you said was, yeah, there was a time
where there were very few people, very few people that
look like us coaching and teaching and educating. And it's

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like there was so much noise on their internet because
I remember I started my business in twenty twelve and
I was like I was on the I was looking
and looking and looking, and I think I found you
once you had your Wedding Academy, your Wedding Planner's Academy,
and just kind of move along with you.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
So what inspired you to.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Create or you know, Mornings with God's Ministry? So that's
your community, and I know you, you know you've even
when you were coaching and teaching on the business side
of the things, you always, like you said, God was
always there. So that wasn't like you hit it or
anything like that. It was always part of what you
were doing. I mean I remember doing virtual vision you know,
vision sessions and goal setting sessions for your business, and

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it was all about that love.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
I still have all my notes.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
For that and kind of the same structure that I
use every year. But what helped you create or what
inspire you to create Mornings with God Ministry? And I
remember it just started from something you were doing and
now it's an entire ministry.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
It's not just a portion of what you do.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah, yeah, So what inspired me to create it.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Is actually a good friend of mine.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Her name is Yaalanga, and her and her husband are
doing wonderful things out in Delaware, breaking barriers and being amazing.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
But her and I, she had come to mean, I
want to.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Say, maybe in like usually in like twenty thirteen or
twenty fourteen, right, and anybody that knows Yolanda her last
name is young now, but Yolanda Kills Walker was you
know her name at the time, and she is the
business babe or and had the organization the business babes.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
And she h.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Somebody had told me that I needed to connect with her,
like you need to know her, right, and I'm like, okay, cool.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
So we ended up doing I want to say, like an.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Event together or maybe i'd like plan something for her.
I forget because again this was a decade ago, but
we connected through like doing some work together, and then
over time kind of you know, built this personal connection.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
And we started doing She was one of let me
let me.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Tell you what I would say about Yolanda is that
she was one of the people who recognize I would
say the call on my life at a at an
early stage right before when I was literally saying I
will never be a pastor and be careful about the
nevers and intervals because I'm sure got to sit back
lafe and be down. But I will, you know, never

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be a pastor. I don't never want to leave like
Non'm good, I'll just pray for the folks, right.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
And I was, you know, in the beginning of my
ministry journey as well.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
So I she came to me and she's like, you
really like can like.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Pray for people, Like you're really really.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Good at that, and I think that we should start
doing And prayer was and is an important part of
her life. Two Christian women, you know, figuring it out.
And she says to me, I really think that we
should start posting like prayer videos for business owners. And
it's like, okay, cool, that's amazing. And I remember we
would literally be uh in the back of her hair

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salon up in Germantown and Philly, in the back of
her hair salon, and we would back there record videos
like if y'all go back and look at the videos,
the lighting is terrible, like you know, the video quality
compared to today.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
But literally like we had.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, we worked with what we had and we would
record these videos and post them like maybe once a
week or something like that, all of those things. And
she we did that maybe for like a year or two,
a year and a half, and then I felt the Lord,
you know, instructing me to move in a different direction, right,

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And we were moving to the point of kind of
like ending like our business work together, even though we obviously,
you know, remain friends and her husband were at my wedding.
I was at there like we're still you know, very
much connected. So we were moving toward the end of
that in that capacity, and I remember going to her

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and saying like, hey, I know we're doing this, but
I still want to continue to do these prayer videos,
and she gave me her blessing and was like absolute.
At the time, uh, the videos were called preyed up.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
But this had moved from just.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Being and again I thank God for you know, friends
like DeLanda who and mentors you know like her as well,
who really pushed.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Me and stretched me.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
She was the first person that said anything about writing
an ebook. We didn't even know what an e book was,
and she's like, listen, you need to put out an ebook.
And this is where you know, prayed up the Gratitude Journal,
reread up the encouragement Journal came from and then from
there we did other you know, spiritual resources. Another one
of our girlfriends, Genesis, she brought Genesis on.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Genesis has always.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Been you know, a leader in ministry and a great
consultant from ministries and branding and marketing and all of
those things, and she, you know, came on and they again,
we all you know, pushed each other, uh, and they.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Really pulled those things out of me. So by the
time we I was like, you know, I think I
want to kind of keep going with this.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
By that time, we had books, we had like tangible books,
we had ebooks, we had all types of merchandise, t shirts, moms,
all of those types of things.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
And then the broadcast it had moved from.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Being like a pre recorded thing that we would do
like every other week to being a weekly thing. And
literally I remember like DeLanda doing a couple of them
and she was like, nah, you can have this, like
this is your baby, and like run with it. And
it was primarily for business owners. And then like Genesis
and I, we did some retreats, like spiritual retreats.

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But for like business owners and leaders.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
So all of these things were happening and then one
day the Lord like, when again when we kind of
like went our separate ways professionally, she I told.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Her, I said, you know, I want to keep doing this,
but I want to honor, you know, and respect what
we build.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
It.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
She's like, girl, we can have it, like go ahead.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
And then one day God was like, you are literally
doing what the scriptures command by rising early in the
morning to seek my face. You were spending your mornings
with God. And I was like, WHOA right? So I
did so I formalized like the name, and you know,
switched things over and did all of those things.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
And literally from there, you know, I ran with it.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
We produced, You started producing things all under mornings with God,
more books, more products, and the broadcast were rebranded.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
And just all of the different things. Right. So that's
how how we got there.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
And then in twenty twenty three, Now mind you, we
were we were building.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
We were building consistently for years.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
But in twenty twenty three, the Lord told me it
is time for you to formalize this right and make
this a community, like there needs to be more teeth.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
So in twenty in September of twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Three, a little under two years ago, is when we
welcomed our first member. I was just looking through stuff
the other day and I found a screen shop. We
had six men members in September twenty twenty three.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
We are now at almost one hundred members. And that doesn't.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Even include you know, the thousands of people that are
on our mailing list.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Or you know, YouTube and social like all of that.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
In terms of our larger wider community, that numbers in
the tens of thousands.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Right, So we're really grateful for that.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
But that's where we are today and just continuing to grow.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
And we have members in the community from everywhere in
the world, which is amazing, Which is so amazing. All right,
let's dive into faith and business. So my first question
here is what does it mean to you to make
God your CEO and business?

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, shout out to my girl Tatum, who has the
trademark on it.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Just in case, I know, God is my CEGO.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
I know you say that. Also we tell you, like God,
I love the God. You gave her a Fross trademark. Yes,
I love that.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
If y'all using God is my CEO, watch yourself all right,
put it on.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
You're gonna put it on T shirt, you can't listen
and if you're gonna put it tagger, give.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
Her right, that's absolutely right.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
So we so what it means though, to make God
your CEO, I think first people have to understand the
functions of a CEO, Like that's really important because if
you don't understand how a CEO functions, then this this
isn't really gonna make sense to you. But a CEO

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is your chief executive officer, right, This is the person
who is responsible for determining the vision of the entity
and organization. Right, So whether that's a business, whether that's
a ministry, even in your home, right, if you are
a stay at home parent and that is your full

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time responsibility is in your home, God still has to be.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Your CEO there. And this the the CEO is responsible
for all of the you know.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Overseeing all of the various units or the departments of
the business, right or of the entity of the organization.
And that that's really uh important to understand. And when
you understand what the CEO does, making God your CEO
means that you allow him to set the vision.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
You allow the Lord to determine what the vision is
for your life and what the vision is for your business.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Right, you allow the Lord to oversee every area, every area, right,
because that's what the CEO does.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Okay. Now, the CEO is.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Not doing the work in every department, but every department
reports to the CEO. Okay, So when it comes to
doing the actual.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Work, that's your part. That's your part, right. You're gonna
go and do the work. And all of the departments
within your business.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
You're going to do the work in branding, marketing, finances,
and accounting, you know, all of these other departments, compliance,
whatever departments exist within your business, or what God has
called you to do, You're going to be the hands
and feet doing that work.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
But God is overseeing everything.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
And when you understand that God is overseeing everything, it
changes the way that you do things. One of my
very favorite scriptures is Collosians three and twenty three, which
tells us that we ought to work is if we
are working for the Lord and not for people, right,
And that is what it is to make God your CEO.
Is if the Lord saw what I was doing right

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now in my business, if he saw what I was
doing and what he has given me charge over, would
he be pleased? Would he you know, be happy with
what it is that I.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Have done with my work product. Is He happy with
the way that I I am doing my marketing? He
has with the way that this thing is branded?

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Is God pleased with the management of the finance?

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Is that God?

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Is God pleased with the way that I am treating
my staff, the human resources?

Speaker 4 (30:13):
How am I taking care of them? Right? It's God
pleased with those things.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
And if you can't say that God is pleased, then
you need to go. You need to have a meeting
with the CEO. Go back to the CEO and see,
you know what he has to say and.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
All of that.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
So that's what it means to me to make God
your CEO in business.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
All of it is good because you're right.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
You have to say, you have to remind yourself like that,
because you have to remind yourself with collasons three twenty three,
like I'm not doing this for man, I'm doing this
for him and how you know, it's the Golden ru
Treat others like you want to be treated.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
But He's even deeper than that.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
It's treat others the way he calls us to be treated, right,
servicing them the way God would service them.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
You know, I tell that to the kids all the time.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
You have to love people for their love language and
how they need to be loved, how you want to
love them, or how you want to service them.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
You have to take care of them. And it's true.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
It's kind of like I don't even you know, when
you people say God is my CEO or you know,
there's that, it's that having meetings with God. It's just
like on a weekly basis or monthly base, quarterly basis, like, Okay,
this is what I'm thinking. Is this from you? You know,
it's your will, not my will. If this is what
you called me to do, then we're gonna do it.
If it's if I have to pivot, I'm gonna need

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to pivot.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
So I love that. I love that.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
So why do you believe that prayer is a non
negotiable for entrepreneurs and visionaries? Because you you teach that,
You've taught us that in all the coaching, like you
have to pause and say a prayer, you know, And
I remember one of the things that you had to
do years ago was a write a business prayer. And
every year I judget up or I change it or
advise it. And it's kind of like praying for your

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business and praying for the clients that you currently have,
and praying for your future clients and your team members.
And one of my favorite things is when vendors say,
oh my gosh, you have so great couples and great
clients and they're kind and there and they're like, how.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
Does that happen?

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I was like, prayer, y'all, just and then look one
of them looked at me like, I'm like, do you
think I'm joking?

Speaker 5 (32:10):
Prayer?

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Like I don't when you work for someone else positivity.
When I work for the hotel, I couldn't tell these
people who came through the door. I didn't want to
book them, like or go you know what, I don't
think y'all. Your marriage is gonna let survive, but I'll
take your money. I can't do that because there was
a there was a few weddings that I was like, well,
I don't know, but I can't say I don't work
for someone else, you know, I don't. I have a
budget that I have to meet because this owner told

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me I had to meet it as a as a entrepreneur,
self employed, this is my own business.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
I'm like, don't send me crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Like I we already you know, even planning is already
a highest stressful job, right, it's top three, top five
every year on the list.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Please send me some good people.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
So why do you believe it's it's you know, prayer
is a non negotiable for us entrepreneurs and visionaries.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
Because let me tell you something.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Here's what I need people to understand, especially if you
are in the natural, if you are functioning as the CEO,
the founder, the president of your organization. When you function,
when when that is your function, when that is your role,
there's quite literally no one that is higher than you
in the organizational structure. You sit in the highest seat,

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right prayer chiefs, You humble in your prayer and making
God your CEO shows God that I recognize, I realize
that even though I may sit in the highest seat
in the natural, you sit in the highest seat that matters, right,

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that you are the CEO over the CEO. I am
concerned about leaders who don't have accountability. I am concerned
about leaders, and this is spiritual and in business in
every way, right, who do not have accountability.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
I'm concerned about.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Pastors who don't have pastors, CEOs who don't have mentors
that will check them, community leaders who have no one
to not respond to, but to report to you. Right,
And when you pray, When you pray, you are inviting
God into what it is that he has given you.

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This is not even yours. You're just the vessel that
He chose to use to execute this thing in the earth.
And the reality is, if we're humble enough to be
honest with ourselves, is that the Lord.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
Could have chosen anybody. The Lord could have used anyone.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
And when you come, when you have that level of understanding,
I think that it invites a humility in that says
it's a non negotiable for me to talk to my boss.
I mean, in the natural, would you go days, weeks, years,
decades without talking to your boss. Do you do you
think you would still have a job if.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
You did that.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Oh no, exactly. I don't have time for that. You know,
this takes too much.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
I got too much.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Going on on my plate, you know what I'm saying.
There's a contract that I'm working on now.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
On the professional side, Whenever.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
The CEO says that he wants to meet, I make
myself available, even if it's.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Not my schedule. Day in the office, what like, what
else would I be.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Doing besides sure, here is the day.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
You know what I'm saying, Like, sure, this works for me.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
And thankfully I don't have a tyrant CEO on this contract.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
Who's you know?

Speaker 3 (35:34):
They do ask me if I'm available, But I make
myself available and ain't.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
It might not always be the most convenient thing. I
may have had other plans and other things that I wanted.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
To do, but I make myself available for the conversation
because it builds relationship. It helps us to be on
the same page to move the larger vision forward.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
The same thing applies in the spirit.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
If you are not spending that time with and if
you are not making yourself available to talk to him
through prayer, and it's a non.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Negotiable for you to not show up to the prayer.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Meeting with the Lord, then what are you really saying
to him?

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Whose vision are you carrying?

Speaker 3 (36:15):
If you're not listening to the one that created the vision,
the one who gave you the idea, whose vision you know,
are you carrying? So that's why it's a non negotiable.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
And in those intimate spaces.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
The Lord will also give you strategy, give you wisdom, ideas, creativity,
right answers to questions, clarity on various matters where you
have maybe been struggling with making a decision.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
In business people, anytime somebody comes to me.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Again, whether it's in you know, the ministry setting or
the professional setting, and they're confused or they don't know
which way to.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Go or how to make a business decision. Have you
talked to the Lord about it?

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Did you try turning down your plate and fasting so
you get the clarity and the answers.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
That you need. It's a non negotiable and it has
to be for everyone.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
And I do.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
I love it like when you have those moments, because
I've had those a couple of times, Like when I
started my you know, in twenty twenty one, when I
started the Wedding Management Blueprint course, I remember saying I
had said something and you had we had talked about it,
and I was like yeah. I was like no, no, no, dear,
you had this vision two years ago and you were
like two or three years ago. You like, go back
through your notes and I went back to my notes

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that it was like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, so it
was more than two years ago. It was called something Else,
but you were like you had the idea, and then
I'm over here. We're on the process of rebranding the
coaching and they education part of it, like just kind
of revamping it. And I was sitting here having my
devotional time one day and I went to go look.
I was looking for something else at my Google Docs.
That's why I like to put I love pen and paper,

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but I love to put those into some kind of
Google doc format. And I was looking for something else,
and an entire outline for my course came up and
I kind of doing it that way now.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
And I'm like oh, and again I was like, well,
thank you God.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Like just like I was looking for one thing and
something else because I was having quiet, it was like
it might have been a Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
It was a Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
We had our devotions in the morning and then I
got off. I was still having my coffee and stuff.
The kids went out the door, and I was like,
think that's something I want because I'm like, okay, I'm
you know, I have a business journal and I have
a personal journal, and I'm with my devotional I was like, wow,
but you're right when you sit down and you and
you you listen. And then there's also times where I'm
in the car and I don't turn the radio on
and I'm just like in perfele thoughts or having conversations

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and doing lastemming because I talked to my Holy Spirit
like that's my homeboy. I'm like, this is my Holy Spirit.
I could talk to my he that's my boy. We
talked to him once in a while, Like you know,
but really, is that what we gonna do. You're like,
that's what I said to do. That's what I said
to do. So but you know, I love it because
when I teach that to the planners that I coached

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and I and I introduced that to them and or
they come to my treat and they know that God's
infused and every day we do, we start, you know,
we start Saturday morning of a prayer and just mindfulness
and just being like okay, we're gonna take a couple
of deep breaths and we're gonna say our prayers and
we're gonna start the day off like that. We start
our brunches with the prayer, and it's like, people go,
I never knew that I was okay to pray for

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my business because I thought that it was being I
thought that it was being I don't know, greedy or
arrogant or whatever to prayer. I'm like, you're not You're
not being You're not praying, You're not being greedy or
being doing an agreed You're like, I you gave me
this vision, yeap, what do you want to do with it?
Because sometimes it comes to that point. Sometimes it comes
to like I don't know what to do. I've had
so many different heartaches and heartbreaks and disappointments and business.

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But it's like, Okay, I want to give up, and
he's like.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
No, no, we're not doing that. It's just like then
you're gonna have to fix this. You know that don't
really do something. But I realized that I know you
do too.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
That so many women, especially that I talk to you,
are like, I didn't know that I could pray for
my business.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
And I'm like, well, you could pray.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
You're supposed to pay for everything, just like we pray
for our children and family. We're supposed to pray for everything.
And then this it's not easy, and a couple of
things is not easy. It's not easy, because especially if
you're the first one in your family ever do this
or the only one in your friends group that does this,
and you don't come from a corporate background, like the
accidental CEO, the accidental business owner, you're going to be

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out here by going crazy. Like I tell people passively,
if you don't have some kind of faith to be
a parent, be a spouse and a parent, you're gonna
lose your mind.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Oh yes, you've got to be grace for it. You
have to be grace for that. Like yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
So with that being said, so so many women I've noticed,
and this happens to all of us at different stages
in life, I think, and in life and in business.
But so many women struggle with confidence and clarity around
their calling. And I know that word is tossed around
a lot, calling and purpose. So what advice do you
give them when they feel stuck unsure of what to

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do next, like the next step or you know whether
to pivot or not? And I remember, and I've told
the story before, like in twenty the fall of twenty nineteen,
two of my coaches and mentors in different conversations were like,
you're gonna have to pivot shift, like it was just
like the pivot shift. It was like conversations and little
did we know why because literally, for like those conversations

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happened like September October of twenty twenty. I was with
Janelle in the twenty nineteen twenty twenty in January, and
then that March we had all this and I was
already processing. I was already setting things already in motion,
and so it was quick.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
To pivot and shift in May.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
So from June of twenty twenty to December twenty twenty,
we did seventeen weddings. So remember I remember we were
in the coaching program and You're like, report sure, and
I was like, I mean ninety thousand dollars now, we
were posed to make two hundred and fifty thousand that
year because you know, with all my coaching and all
my contracts to that. And I was just like I
remember telling you. I was like it's gone, and You're like, yes, girlfriend,

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it's all gone, you know, but.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
You made money. Like it is funn because I remember
applying for.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
All these loans and all these things, and I kept
being turned down and it was like God already knows
we already owe family may enough and we have mortgages.

Speaker 5 (42:15):
He said, we don't need another bill.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
And so many of my friends are like, oh no,
it's going to be a forgiven and I was like,
I don't trust that.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
It's like, oh, which.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Some people will we are And some people called me
back and.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
Like you were right.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
I'm like, I didn't take not one cent, but I
mean I may ninety thousand in those few months, and
which made me feel great.

Speaker 5 (42:34):
But so many people struggle because they hear like, oh,
its is.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
You know, the fighting, the clarity, the confidence and the
clarity around their calling and their purpose when it comes
to their business. So what advice would you give them?

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Yeah, I think that the first piece of.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Advice that I would give is to surround yourself with
other like minded people. And I know that that can
seem very like elementary or like, oh.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
That's what everyone says.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Is well, if everyone's saying that, then there's probably some
truth to it, and it might be something that you
need to take to heart, because when you are surrounded
by other confident women or other confident people who are
clear about the calling on their lives and they're actively
walking in it, you can't remain unclear right. You can't

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remain someone excuse me, who does not actively walk in.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
Their own calling.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Right, So that would be the first thing is to
get yourself in a community.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
And this may be a community that you have to
invest in.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
My community of business friends are literally people that I
met through my business coaches, like over the years, right,
and you know, even being a business coach, some of
our coaches have turned into friends, right, So like we
could you know, talk about different things and bounce ideas
off with one another, support one another.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
You know, ask each other question so forth and so on,
and they uh but but they helped to build me up.
They helped to uh uh.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
You know, just strengthen me and encourage me rather in
in my my calling and what I have been created
to do. One of my good girlfriends, who's actually a
former business coach now she's one of my best friends.
She had sent me a message a couple months ago
like you're still that girl, Like you're still that girl, right,

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And she had sent me an email that she found
for me in my early days when I was just.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
Still trying to figure it out, and she's like.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
I just want to show you that like you've always
been it, like you've always been about this work.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
You ain't. You've always been true to it.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
You ain't never you know, went crazy over it, right,
And that really encouraged me and reminded me that I
am that girl, and not that I think that I'm
better or more special, that I'm arrogant, but I know
that God has marked me for a purpose and has
a calling on my life that I can step into confidently.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
The other thing, and I'll give.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Another example, really kind of along the same line, is
having a mentor.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Like my confidence in ministry comes.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
From the freedom that I've really received to be who
I am from the first pastor who pastored me as
a minister, right, And that goes back tore past the pastor.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
Gene where that let me tell you something, there was
a lot of growing pains. Okay, I got called into
the past's office a lot because I was trying to
figure a whole bunch of stuff out. I really was.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
But when I say, I'll never forget when he first
found out about Mornings with God because I hadn't shared it,
and he literally was like, why didn't you tell me
about this? Like I want to push you and like
encourage you with this, like this is a great thing
that we have this gifting, you know, in the house,
and I'm like, well, they don't want to be like competing,
you know, like make it seem like I'm competing or whatever, you.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
Know, planned the background, and he's like, no. I also
remember there was another thing he was I don't know
if it's officiate for a funeral, and he.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Had text me it was like I need you to
do something for me, and I'm like, okay, like I've
never done this before. And this was just the twenty
twenty one in December of twenty twenty one, and when.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
He walked in, I wasn't sure for whatever reason. It's
very strange thing.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
I wasn't sure that I could walk up to the
pool pit because I wasn't like the uligious.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Like the preacher of you know, that was overseeing everything.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
And literally I'll never forget. Afterwards, we were riding in
the car together and this meant, you know, again we
now have a personal relationship, right He was like, don't
never do that again. Don't you ever like shrink back
like that, like you are licensed and you know God
had me license you. I licensed you or released you
into the world, into the fullness of your calling.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Don't never do that again. I was like, Okay, yes, sir,
I won't ever do that again.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
But those types of things like when you ask the
question like if someone is feeling stuck or you're feeling like,
you know, am I valuable enough for this? Is this
what I'm supposed to be? Am I good enough for this?
Am I call to this? Being surrounded by godly people
who refuse to let you stay where you are and
your timidity and then your low self esteem and in

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your life confidence and your low self view, that's a
game changer.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
So that's why I would recommend to anyone.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
And again, like I said, some of all of my
business friends, they came from something that I invested in
and we built relationships from from there.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
I love that you say that because it's true. You
you have to surround yourself with those people. Because anytime
I'm coaching or I get like a voice text, whether
it's for what are the planners in our programs?

Speaker 5 (47:35):
Or what are my planner friends, and they're like spiraling.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
I let them have that moment like Okay, you could
have It's a moment whether you voice text men Jimmy
or your text messuyor we're on the phone, and I'm like, okay,
you feel better, Like do you feel better because you
let it out?

Speaker 4 (47:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (47:50):
Okay, Well we're not gonna live there. What we're gonna
do about it?

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Like, let's let's pick up all, let's pick up let's
pick their face up off the floor, let's wipe the
tears off our faces, let's go through our our numbers
or whatever it is, and like do that and it's
good because you can't do it long. I'm always joking
and telling people Jesus didn't need not one of those disciples.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
Lord knows he did not need any of them. But
he had a community. Yeah, he rode with the twelve
and everybody else.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
That he had in his community that we know about.
So I'm like, why do we think we have to
be out here? Because I think sometimes someone needs to
hold up a mirror and be like, no, you're that girl,
Like you're doing a great job, and you know it's
unfortunate that you know, you privately coach people like this
where their significant others or their family members or their
friends are not going to encourage them because they don't
understand the life of an entrepreneur. They don't understand what

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you're doing. They think you're crazy for wanting to do
this full time or not going back. You know, you
lose your job and you're not you know what, I'm
going to give it a go at my full time job.

Speaker 5 (48:46):
It's like, why would you do that? Or having this as.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
A side hustle that's also making as much money as
your full time job. So I don't know, a few
planners have done that just to pay things off.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
So it's true.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
It's like you have to surround you and if you
don't have them within your immediate search, find them, because
you could find people online. Like Tiffany and I was
connected for years virtually before we met a couple of
years ago. Like it was crazy for many years. And
I have a few friends like that that virtually we've
known each other, whether it's in coaching groups, whether it's
in Facebook, whatever the case would be. And it's like

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maybe maybe we meet once and knows all those years
in person, but it's like we're still connected and it's
like I'm having a bad day.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
Hey you girls, stop it, you know, stop it?

Speaker 4 (49:29):
Still do that? They definitely do. You'll send me if
you send me a text message.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
I'm like, all right, we'll be talking about what we
need to pray about, what we'll be doing.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
You have a question, I'm going to answer your question.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
And you need that that community one of these things.
And you know I say this a lot with mornings
with God.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
Uh, is that you know, people be out here and
I know it's.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Not proper grammar, but y'all be out here getting beat
up by the depol because you're by yourself, like and
that all of that insecure and not be insuring your
calling and confusion. God is not the author of confusion,
and He's very clear about the purpose that he set
for your life when you were in your mother's oomb
before you even became a fault in the mind of

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your parents.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
God had a purpose and a calling for you.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
But the reason why he gets so easily distracted and
discouraged is because we are by ourselves or we're not
surrounded by the right people. If you get yourself into
the right community, and it doesn't have to be large,
but if you get yourself and to the right community
who can encourage you and pray you through, then you're
gonna find that you are less susceptible and less exposed

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to the lives of the enemy, that you know, the
devil will try to whispering your ears because he ain't
got enough other to do but to get on your
nerves literally.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
And he ain't.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
We always say he hainte that creative right do kills
really not? You know, it kills it kills still and
destroyed like he ain't that he tries though, But.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
If you're connected, if you if you're doing your prayers,
you'll see it that you'll see where he's trying to
mess with you in business and mess with you in
personal And every once in a while, I'm just laughing,
Like I'm in our chet group in our community mornings
with got community, we have a check group, and.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
I'm just like, he is not clever. Why are you trying?

Speaker 2 (51:13):
I wish you would like And it always happens when
we've been praying about something or studying something, or.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
You heard something.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
You're like, oh that's what that is, Okay, I got you.
You know, Like today I was like, Okay, the car fib.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
Ain't work it. I'm gonna take it over home. I'm
gonna take a shower. It's all gonna be good because
because I'm gonna keep moving. I got things to do.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
So you have you know, you mentor women and you
lead women, include myself.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
What is one lesson?

Speaker 2 (51:41):
You believe that every kingdom woman in business needs to
learn early.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
The power of no.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
No one to say no, no one to say no,
no one to call it that.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Especially as women.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
And I just told I just told one of my
clients that she's of a descent, and I just told her,
I said, for women, we tend to fall into the
nurturer role. Yes, for women of color is oftentime giving
the help.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
And I know that that is low.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Key offensive and I want you to be offended enough
to not fall into that role.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
That is the role. And me and her were cracking up.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
She was like, what I said, I know every time
I said, people are always kind of like wait.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Did she just say that? Yes? I did.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
And you know Asian women understand that too, because they
they themselves, I think even more than we like, they
don't know.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
They don't say no, no at all.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
They don't. That's the conversation that I was having with her.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
I was like, your issue is that you don't know
how to say no and you're trying to mother your
team and what is ended up doing is.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
That you're falling into the role of the help. But
why why are you doing that? Right?

Speaker 3 (52:54):
So, for what I would say for every Kingdom woman
who has, you know a business or is wanting to
start a business, learn the power of know early when
you are we again, we're nurturers by nature. So when
people come into our care, right when they become our

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customer or our client, we view it as them coming
into our care. And while that is true to a degree,
as a Kingdom woman.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Right like we will have to.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
We are accountable, held accountable for how we treat our
clients and our customers and how.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Well we care for them.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
But to care for someone versus taking care of them,
that's two different things. Right. So it is cool to
care for and to care enough to want to give
your guests where your guess is needed, but you also
have to realize that you are not taking care of
other grown people and that it is not necessary in
order for your business to be successful. Whether those people

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are partners, staff members, a clients or customers, it's not
your response ability to.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Take care of them, and you have to be able
to say.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
No and trust that these folks they're gonna figure it
out if they're having a challenge with something.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
One of the things, especially with.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
My team, that I established very early on is set
the bar and they're either gonna rise or sink. Curious
either they're gonna rise to the bar or they're gonna sink.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
And if they rise, then that means, okay, this is
good for them. If they sink, I'm not just gonna
throw you out and discard you, but I'm gonna try to.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Figure out, like what's going on that you're struggling to
meet the standard, to meet this standard of excellence, and.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
If you keep sinking, you're gonna sink right on up
out of here.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Right.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
So, being able to say.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
No is a powerful thing, saying no to opportunities that
compromise your morals, that compromise your values, that compromise your integrity.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
One of the things that.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
I am so grateful for and most proud of in
my journey, especially starting in business as young as I did,
is that I have never compromised mysel soul or sold
a single thing to get any opportunity that has ever
come my way. And I'm not just talking about like
financial selling, like oh, selling in exchange for something. But
I'm talking about chipping away at pieces and parts of

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my character and my Christian identity, my identity as a
daughter of God. That I've never had to tear pieces
of myself away for an opportunity ever, because i learned
to say no early on if it compromises who I
am in God, and I ain't never been broke, I

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ain't never missed the meal.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
I've never been without a group, open my head, clothes
on my bad, food on my.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Table, or more opportunities to make more money. Right, So
that would be my encouragement. Every Kingdom woman needs to
know to say no. If you're primary, if you're married,
your primary responsibility is your marriage. Why are you taking
opportunities to constantly take you away from your marriage. I'm
not talking about working eight even ten hours a day, or.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
You know, like on a big days, were gone.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
All day from sun up to sundown, right, I'm not
talking about that. I'm talking about people taking opportunities. Kingdom women,
taking opportunities that take you away from your family for
extended periods of time when that's your first ministry. Why
are you saying, yesterday, did you consult your spouse about that?
Is there a proper order in your household and the

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priorities that you have in your life. My priorities right
now is one husband, one business, one ministry.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
That's it, and anything and everything else is gonna fall away.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
When I was young and single and free, that wasn't
the order of the priorities.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Okay, But that's the order of my priorities. Now when
I have kids, that order's gonna shift again. Right.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
So learning to say no early in business, I think
is critical for the kingdom.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
Woman, let me get off my head.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
I love it. So what do you say to women?
This kind up all my last questions? What do you
say to women who are afraid to talk about.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
Their faith and public or in business?

Speaker 2 (57:01):
You know, people say wow, and I receive contracts because
of that. And I have people that, like you said,
don't are not believers, but they're.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
Jewish, or they're Buddhist, or they're Muslim, and.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
They're like, well, we just love that you have integrity
and you're a woman of faith. But there's so many
people that are like, I don't talk about it.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
I've seen coaches, I've seen you know.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Planners, et cetera, et cetera that they don't they don't
talk about their faith, but if they see, they know
I am, and they'll have a conversation with me.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
And I'm like, why don't we talk about it publicly?

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Yeah? Yeah, it's really because of fear, fear that they're
going to lose an opportunity, fear that someone's going to
reject them, fear that it's the taboo thing to do.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
And I would, you know.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Encourage any woman that is afraid to talk about her
faith publicly. I'm gonna challenge you from the spiritual side
that you are operating under a cloak of shame spiritually
where you are afraid to take all of who you
are into your professional spaces twinkling period, and none of
that is of God.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Right now.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Let me also say this, this does not mean that
you have to be walking around beating people over the
head with the Bible right.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
One of my favorite stories, this is a recent story.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
I was doing like a little seasonal job a couple
of years ago, and I remember somebody.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
Had asked me something like about church or something like that.
I was like, yeah, girl, like you know, I go.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
To church something that they had said, and coworker overheard
it and she looked at me.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
She said, I knew you were a Christian and we
started laughing. I was like, what she said, I could tell.
She said, I you're a pastor.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
And at the time, I was, you know, a license
just uh in terms of title, I was operating under
the minister title.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
And I was like, yeah, well I'm.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
A licensed minister and like I'm in seminary and all
of those things.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
And she was like, I knew it. She said, I
knew you were a pastor. I could just tell. I
never said it ain't no. By the Mornings with God,
literally the only person that knew was.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
The manager, like the general manager of where I was working,
because on Mondays I couldn't come in until after Mornings
with God. Even stuff like that. When I want when
I go into certain places, I'm not available Mondays until
like nine ten o'clock to do in the morning.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
And that particular place like they opened.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Up very early, and he's like, can you come in
early on all those days?

Speaker 4 (59:19):
I can do what you need me to do.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Because there was a certain job function I had that
required me to come in very early.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
I said, I can do what you need me to
do all these other days. At the time that you
needed Monday is my non negotiable.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
You're gonna have to get somebody else to cover it,
or get them to cover it until I get here, right,
And you know, I take that stath with me everywhere
that I go. And it's as simple as setting certain boundaries.
It's as simple as if.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
You if you're afraid to say it out loud, put
stuff in your office. I was just talking to my
mom about that. You worried about what everybody else got
on the desk.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Where's your cross on your desk? Where's your daily scripture
on your desk?

Speaker 4 (59:56):
Where is the you know.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Scripture decorations or you know, positive words that are on
your desk? When people walk past your desk, do you
have your gospel music playing, even if it's.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
At a low volume. You know what I'm saying. Even
when I'm working at home, my volume of my gospel
music is on.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Level two, right, and I'm at home and free to
do what I want to do. But it's just in
the background, right, it's running behind everything.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
That I'm doing. I'm not saying you set that one
and go about your day.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Let it go in the atmosphere. Now, people come with
the drama. Do you shut it down. All of that
is a part of sharing your Christian values.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
This contract that I'm on.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Now, the reason why I got higher not just the reason,
but the thing that set my contract administrator over the
edge and made him like, no, I definitely for sure
want harm is because he asked about my degree in divinity.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
And then next thing, you know, in an area, he
was like, I know, this ain't how it's supposed to
be going.

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
This is HR compliance at all.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
It's not compliant with HR rules.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Right, We're talking about church, were talking about Holy Spirit,
We're talking about faith that may have prayed for me
at the end of my meeting, my first meeting, and
literally when I the HR person that called him was
like you got the contract, he was like, yo, they
over there raving about you, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
What you say is Tiffany, And I'm like, I was
just who I am? You can carry your faith.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
I never quoted a scripture in that in that meeting, right,
I never quoted a scripture on that seasonal job. Sometimes
I would wear my cross necklace a lot of times
I did it right. Literally, these were the things that
you carry it with you and you when people ask
you open up that opportunity, But are there signs?

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Right this? The last thing I'll say is like, you know,
when it was a joke.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
On social media, like you you're not gonna know when
I get my taxes, But there will be signs. And
then people would be like out eating crab boils and
you know, spending money.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
On all like this expensive food and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
You may not know that I am a Christian, but
there will be signs.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
There will be signs. And for the women in business,
when it comes to sharing your faith, there should be
signs that you are a Christian. Some of them will
be bolder.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
And more evident than others, but there should always be
signs that you are a Christian.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
And the shrinking back should never be you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
If somebody else is uncomfortable with, din't let them shrink back.
The shrinking back should never be you. So that's the
last thing I'll say on it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
I remember a few months ago I had it, I
hadn't written on I had a post that over here
it's like the Christians that stopped me to stop shrinking
and being quiet, like we just like why we why?
And that was one of the reasons that I made
it really evidence that I was.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
Like, if I'm going to do this podcast, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
With the rebranding of the of the coaching program and
everything we do for the Becoming Retreat, it's like it's based,
like it's basic, because it's not.

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
It's not my doing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
He told me to do it, but he told me
to do the first retreat, and every year he's like,
do it again.

Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
And then I wrote it in my journal.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
My quiet time about starting a podcast, and I promise you.
Like three or four days later, I'm sitting at my
desk and out of the blue, doing goes, you know what, babe,
you should start a podcast, And I just threw my pet.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
In the air.

Speaker 5 (01:03:09):
I'm like, you and the Holy Spirit, I'm sick of
you both.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
And then here we are a year later, like here
we are and I'm like, Okay, I.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
Guess I'm doing it, but thank you so much. Oh
my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
How can listeners connect with you with the Mornings with
God community or with T three Solusions?

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
How can we connect with you?

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
So, the easiest way to kind of get in contact
on all things is to follow me on Instagram. My
Instagram handle is Tiffany p Soa, so just like my
name is showing up Tiffany p soa Mornings with God
is Mornings with God.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
Right, so that's that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
And then in terms of business stuff, we are you know,
currently doing like cohort based programs. We actually have a
Christians with Contracts programs where I'm teaching Christians how to
take what they do and like the Kingdom and repackage
it for you know, contract opportunities, all of that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
That's why I'm my LinkedIn so literally you can book.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Me up Tiffany he soa Tiffany soa Tiffany like any
any of my days LinkedIn Instagram and Facebook and that's
where you know you'll find more information and you know
I'll send over things that you can share, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
With your credit show notes. Thank you so much, and
if you don't mind, can you do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Me a favor and I'll do my ultro afterwards.

Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
But can you please do a quick prayer for us.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
For you know, women in business planners, all of us
and you know, I know you always have a lot
of projects going on, but if you could just bless
us with the prayer for to close us out, that
would be great.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Absolutely, So Lord, before we come to you asking you
for anything, We first just want to say thank you
God for everything.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
We thank you Lord for this.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Opportunity to get together to talk about business and faith
and to help women, your daughters, to navigate the intersection
of the two. Thank you, O God, that you are
blessing your daughters spiritually first and foremost. I pray Lord
that you would just continue to call each of the
women who hear this message, and even the men who
will hear it. Lord God, that you would call them

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deeper into relationship with you. I pray, O God, that
you would keep them near the cross, covered under the
blood of Jesus and drinking from your will that never
ever runs dry. I pray, o Lord, that you would
cover them and keep them on their spiritual journey, help
them to hear from you with clarity.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
And silence the noise of the enemy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
I pray, o Lord, that they would know your voice
and another they will not follow.

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
I pray that you give them strength.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
And cover their physical bodies as they journey to do
what you have called them to do, keeping them safe
from all hurt, harm and danger. I pray, o Lord,
that you would keep their minds, that you would keep
their hearts covered under the blood of Jesus, so that
nothing shall prevail against them. Keep their heart in your hands,
Lord God, continuing to shape it in motive, clean it up,

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and turn it into what you want it to be.
I pray Lord for increase in their finances. I ask
that you would cause there to be financial increase, overflow,
financial obedience and stewardship, and that you would give them
wisdom where money is concerned. I pray for an increase
in clients. I pray for an increase in customers. I pray, O, God,

(01:06:28):
that you would bless them in their vocation and their vocation.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
As business owners and leaders.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Lord God, strengthen them and help them to remember that
you are their CEO. I pray God that they would
always report back to you, consult you, and to listen
to your guidance.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
I pray that you bless their families.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
That you bless the community around them, and the various
ministries that you have called them to create, even if
it doesn't have the title ministry.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
That their business is a ministry, Lord God.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
And I pray that you and to prosper and to
go into all the earth, Lord, to touch and impact
people for your glory and the good of those who
they have been called to serve, and more than any,
thank God.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
I pray that you don't forget.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
The reward for their Yes, we thank you for the
reward that is stored up in heaven. But I pray,
O God, that you would give them a glimpse even
while here on earth. So Lord, we thank you, and
we pray these in all things in the name of
your son Jesus Christ, and noun to you and you alone,
who is able to keep us in prosper us. We say,
thank you God, and Amen.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Amen, Amen, Thank you, Bess Tiffany, Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
What a powerful conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I hope you're walking away from today's episode with a
renewed sense of purpose and a reminder that God is
deeply invested in your business, not just your success, but
your surrender, your growth, and your peace. Fastiffany reminded us
that prayer isn't a backup plan, it's the blueprint that
making God our CEO means aligning our decisions, our timelines,

(01:08:02):
and even our goals.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
With His perfect will. If this episode blessed you, please
share with.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Another woman in business who needs to be reminded that
she's not building alone. Make sure to follow positivity and
tap into Mornings with God community consistently and the encourage.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
The consistency, the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Encouragement, and the anointing will carry you through even the
toughest days of entrepreneurship and meant as always, thank you
for tuning into inside the wedding Planner's mind. Until next time,
keep building, keep believing, and keep becoming.

Speaker 5 (01:08:32):
I love you God bless

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.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}S2 Ep.10 - Making God the CEO of your Life and Business with Pastor Tiffany P. Sowah